WEBVTT - Princeton's Mody Says BOE Brexit Panic is Irresponsible (Audio)

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<v Speaker 1>Hayes on him, Fox PIM out of the office this afternoon.

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<v Speaker 1>FED in focus in this hour on taking Stock. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>uncertainty over the Brexit, the UK deciding to leave the

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<v Speaker 1>European Union. Could that slow the Fed's rate hiking hand

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<v Speaker 1>this month. We've got a guest coming up who says

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<v Speaker 1>it's short. Certainly should not and the Bank of England

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<v Speaker 1>has no business predicting that it breaks. It will cause

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<v Speaker 1>great harm to the UK economy. Now let's get to

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<v Speaker 1>Charlie Felton issue with a Bloomberg business flash, and I

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<v Speaker 1>thank you Kathleen. Right now, we've got the SMP highn

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<v Speaker 1>Nestak as well, dal Jones Industrial Average, Laurel by two

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<v Speaker 1>points little change, their SMP up a point, a gain

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<v Speaker 1>to point one percent, and Astack Higer by eight a

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<v Speaker 1>gain of two tenths of one percent. The U S

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<v Speaker 1>economy expanded at a modest pace across most of the

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<v Speaker 1>countries since mid April, causing the labor market to tighten.

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<v Speaker 1>Those employers continue adding jobs and nudging wages higher. We

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<v Speaker 1>will have more on the Beige Book coming right up here.

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<v Speaker 1>On taking Stock. Matt Bosler covers the Federal Reserve for

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<v Speaker 1>Bloomberg News. He was our guest minutes ago here on

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<v Speaker 1>taking Stock. One of the good things here is that, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, throughout this report there's a language about how

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<v Speaker 1>businesses are feeling generally optimistic about the outlook, which is

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<v Speaker 1>good because, um, you know, in the minutes of the

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<v Speaker 1>April f MC meeting that we're just released a few

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<v Speaker 1>weeks ago, there was a line in there about how

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<v Speaker 1>most of policymakers business contacts, Um, we're you know, delaying

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<v Speaker 1>expenditures and sort of waiting for uncertainty around the outlook

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<v Speaker 1>to to resolve. And right now we do have the

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<v Speaker 1>tenure up to thirty seconds with the yield of one

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<v Speaker 1>point eight three percent. Auto sales, Hey, it is the

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<v Speaker 1>first the day of the new month. Auto sales softer

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<v Speaker 1>than predicted and May a bell weather month that may

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<v Speaker 1>help the Federal Reserve decision decision makers determine whether the

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<v Speaker 1>economy can handle it. Interest rate increase this summer, GM, Ford,

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<v Speaker 1>Toyota all reporting sales that fell more than analysts had estimated.

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<v Speaker 1>GM shares they are down now by three point three percent.

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<v Speaker 1>Ford shares down by two point nine percent. Mixed picture

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<v Speaker 1>for US equities smp hier now by a point. The

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<v Speaker 1>Dow is down six points, Gold down three forty ounce

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<v Speaker 1>dropped there of three tenths of one percent to thirty

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<v Speaker 1>two on Wall Street. Now, let's take a look at

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<v Speaker 1>some of the other stories making us. Thank you Charlie

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<v Speaker 1>from the Bloomberg news room. I'm Ramie. In Essensio. Searchers

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<v Speaker 1>may have found a new clue in the hunt for

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<v Speaker 1>egypt Air Flight eight oh four that went down in

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<v Speaker 1>the Mediterranean Sea last month. Here's Bloomberg's Michael Barr. A

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<v Speaker 1>French Navy ship has picked up a ping that is

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<v Speaker 1>likely coming from the all important black boxes from an

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<v Speaker 1>egypt airplane that crashed May nine. If it is indeed

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<v Speaker 1>the flight recorders, you could be a major piece of

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<v Speaker 1>the puzzle as to what happened to Egypt Air Flight

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<v Speaker 1>eight oh four. Egypt's Ministry of Civil Aviations as once

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<v Speaker 1>the black boxes are located, a ship from deep ocean

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<v Speaker 1>Search we joined the effort in the Mediterranean to retrieve

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<v Speaker 1>the DEATHA recorders. The Arabs crashed while heading from Paris

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<v Speaker 1>to Cairo, killing all sixty six passengers and crew on board.

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Barr Bloomberg Radio for Your Health. Restaurants and food

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<v Speaker 1>manufacturers are being asked to hold the salt. Health and

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<v Speaker 1>Human Services Secretary at Sylvia Matthews Burwell on the new

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<v Speaker 1>guidelines in terms of what we're doing is creating a

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<v Speaker 1>situation where the consumers can control. If that consumer wants

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<v Speaker 1>to add more sodium, they're going to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>do it. What the consumer can't do now is take

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<v Speaker 1>it half of the product and have real knowledge about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Burwell also says seventy of the sodium that most people

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<v Speaker 1>consume comes from either prepared or processed food. And the

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<v Speaker 1>baby born in New Jersey has birth defects caused by

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<v Speaker 1>the zeke of virus. It's a first in the Tri

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<v Speaker 1>state region and only the second time it's happened in

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<v Speaker 1>the US. Hospital officials say the infants thirty one year

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<v Speaker 1>old mother is asking for privacy at Hackensack University Medical

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<v Speaker 1>Center as the newborn receives care. The mother is from Honduras,

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<v Speaker 1>where she may have contracted the virus. Global News twenty

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<v Speaker 1>Bloomberg News Room. I'm Rami Innocentio Charlie, and we thank you,

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<v Speaker 1>and again recapping a mixed picture for US equities SMP

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<v Speaker 1>five hundred index higher by a lesser than half a point.

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<v Speaker 1>Now little change down, Industrials down twelve, a drop of

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<v Speaker 1>point one percent. I'm Charlie Pelt. That's a Bloombird business flash.

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<v Speaker 1>This is taking stock the FED in focus on Bloombird Radio.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Kathleen Hayes, my co host Pim Fox. Out of

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<v Speaker 1>the office this afternoon, we're gonna take a look at

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<v Speaker 1>Brexit now, in particular warnings last month stark warnings from

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<v Speaker 1>the Bank of England that a vote to leave the

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<v Speaker 1>European Union by the UK, the so called Brexit, could

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<v Speaker 1>slam the brakes on growth in that area, push up unemployment,

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<v Speaker 1>stoke inflation, and spook forward investors. And the feder Reserve,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, has expressed some concern about not knowing the

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<v Speaker 1>result of the June Brexit before it votes on US

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<v Speaker 1>monetary policy on June fifteenth. Joining us now as a

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<v Speaker 1>guest who has slammed the Bank of England for making

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<v Speaker 1>such statements, saying that it is cynically exploiting its authority.

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<v Speaker 1>Ashoka Modi joins this now. He's a Bloom Review contributor.

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<v Speaker 1>He is also a visiting professor in International Economic Policy

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<v Speaker 1>at the Woodrow Wilson School at Princeton University, and previously

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<v Speaker 1>was Deputy director in the I m f S Research

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<v Speaker 1>and European Departments, and so much more. Professional Moody, welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to the show. Thank you, thank you very much. So

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<v Speaker 1>what do you think would happen? Let's start there. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you think the brigsit won't have much impact on the

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<v Speaker 1>UK economy if that occurs. I think Brexit will have

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<v Speaker 1>some impact, but how much impact it has will depend

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<v Speaker 1>also a lot on how how the policymakers and the

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<v Speaker 1>UK authorities behave Uh. If they if they create a

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<v Speaker 1>sense of panic, uh, then there will be panic. But

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<v Speaker 1>if they calmly and they take it as a matter

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<v Speaker 1>of course, Uh, then I think it's a very manageable process.

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<v Speaker 1>Is uh, Governor Karney Mark Arney, the head of the

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<v Speaker 1>Bank of England, Is he waiting into political waters? Is

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<v Speaker 1>that implicitly what you're saying that he's trying to help

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<v Speaker 1>the government in his position that Brexit should not occur.

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<v Speaker 1>But what what Mr Kearney and the Bank of England

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<v Speaker 1>have done are two things. Does they say that not

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<v Speaker 1>only will Brexit cause problems, but it is already causing problems,

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<v Speaker 1>That growth has slowed down, that investment has slowed down

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<v Speaker 1>because of the fear of Brexit. The problem with that

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<v Speaker 1>statement is that there is simply no evidence for that

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<v Speaker 1>the UK economy has slowed down. But we completely understand

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<v Speaker 1>why it has slowed down. Has slowed down because once

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<v Speaker 1>again austerity has been stepped up and the world economy

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<v Speaker 1>is slow, world trade is barely growing, and that pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much explains the slowdown of the of the UK economy.

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<v Speaker 1>So for him to add that there is a Brexit

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<v Speaker 1>related uncertainty said is just a completely ad hoc. But

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<v Speaker 1>the more most serious problem that the Bank of England

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<v Speaker 1>has created is by saying that if there is Brexit,

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<v Speaker 1>there will be panic and in effect civilization. As we

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<v Speaker 1>know it will come to an end. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>that it's completely a response because they're creating a narrative

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<v Speaker 1>which is likely to become full self fulfilling if they

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<v Speaker 1>continue this way. A central bank's role, a central bank's

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<v Speaker 1>role has to be to stop the planet, to state

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<v Speaker 1>calm and stop the pandits. I think whether it was

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<v Speaker 1>a political gesture or not, it was clearly unnecessary and

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<v Speaker 1>ill advised. I have kept quiet, waited till bregsit decision

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<v Speaker 1>was taken, and then acted as a centralman. Should I

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<v Speaker 1>want to ask, do you want to switch? Here's just

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<v Speaker 1>a bit, but look at India where they had of

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<v Speaker 1>India's Central Bank or gam Rajan, who uh is Indian

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<v Speaker 1>by birth, has lived in work in the the United States

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<v Speaker 1>for many years. Professor, very well respected at the University

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<v Speaker 1>of Chicago. He's been almost three years running the central

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<v Speaker 1>bank in India. Many politicians now or some anyways saying

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<v Speaker 1>he should leave. He hasn't cut rates enough. Today he said,

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<v Speaker 1>just what, I don't want another term. When my three

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<v Speaker 1>three years are up, I'm leaving. Do you think India's

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<v Speaker 1>heading in the right direction without ragu Rajan? Well, look,

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<v Speaker 1>they let there are two different things one how the

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<v Speaker 1>political system has treated Ragu and that's that's completely abominabous. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>There is I think a small group, in fact, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>one politician who has been hounding him. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>I think if India wanted to keep Ragu, the Prime

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<v Speaker 1>Minister should have been out there on the stump, Uh

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<v Speaker 1>telling his party folks to to keep quiet and to

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<v Speaker 1>go away. And and because this is completely uncalled. But

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<v Speaker 1>Ragu is, as you said, quite rightly, one of the

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<v Speaker 1>most distinguished economists of his generation. And India is fortunate

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<v Speaker 1>that you know, he he feels it is part of

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<v Speaker 1>his obligation to to be a senior policy in get

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<v Speaker 1>in in India. Now it's luck we leaves. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't believe that an individual mix or breaks and institution.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know there will be other people who will

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<v Speaker 1>come and who will do a very fine job. But

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<v Speaker 1>I hope very much, but in the estate that he continues.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he has himself said that the dusk is

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<v Speaker 1>not yet done, and I think he should stay and

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<v Speaker 1>and did the dusk alright, A Shokmote, thank you so

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<v Speaker 1>very much for joining us. Uh looking at the Bank

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<v Speaker 1>of England saying there is no evidence that Brexit fears

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<v Speaker 1>are slowing the economy. There's a lot of factors doing that.

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<v Speaker 1>And as for India, very fast growing, important economy in

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<v Speaker 1>the world. Now, maybe they should try to keep their

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<v Speaker 1>current central bank chief, A Shokomoti. Joining us from Princeton University.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Kathleen Hayes. This is taking stock on Bloomberg Radio,

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