1 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: Hi, guys, Welcome to another episode of Diamonds in the 2 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 1: Rough with myself Teddy Mellencamp. 3 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:19,600 Speaker 2: And I'm Erica Jane. Hi, Teddy Mellencamp. 4 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: Hi, So the trailer came out this week. 5 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 2: What'd you think? Be honest? 6 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: I was pleasantly surprised. 7 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 2: Thank God. 8 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: I know, I was worried. 9 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie. I mean, I was very worried. 10 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: I was a little bit worried too. But it looks good, 11 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: it looks juicy, and I love it the end. I 12 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: wanted a hot girls summer, but I didn't get one. 13 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 2: No, Rachel, Yeah, she didn't get her hot girls summer. 14 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:47,200 Speaker 2: Poor a thing. But I think you're. 15 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:50,160 Speaker 1: Gonna like expect. Well, she's looking. 16 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 2: You know, we all try to be positive about where 17 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 2: we are in life. She's going through a tough time 18 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 2: and you know, I don't want to give it away, 19 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 2: but you know she's having a hard time right now, 20 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 2: and she wanted a hot girls summer. I mean, I 21 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 2: think we all wanted a hot girls summer, me too. Right, 22 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:08,199 Speaker 2: we didn't get it. You didn't get it. I didn't 23 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 2: get it. She didn't get it. So it's okay. 24 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 1: But I thought you were great. I could tell that 25 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: you kind of narrated what's going on, which I always appreciate, 26 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 1: which we always need on every cast. 27 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 2: You know what, I was confused a lot of times 28 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 2: this season. I was like, wait a second, what is 29 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 2: going on? 30 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 1: Can we talk about the new girl a little bit? 31 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: Because Okay, not only is she in a bath with money, yeah, 32 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: but she's already in the comments. I don't remember if 33 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 1: it was Real Housewives of Beverly Hills or who it was. 34 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: One of the content creators posted a picture of her, 35 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: and unprompted, she wrote, I've had millions of I've been 36 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: a millionaire for years, something along those lines, And I'm like, 37 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: who writes that? And why? 38 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 2: Well, you gotta have a chance to get to know 39 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 2: her and see what you're true feeling about. 40 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 1: Do you think I'm gonna like her? 41 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 2: No? I mean I don't think that. Are there moments 42 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 2: where she's charming and sweet, yes, but I don't know 43 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 2: what her over I only know when and everybody knows this. 44 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 2: You only know what you shoot, right, So you know, like, 45 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 2: I don't know what her home scenes look like. Maybe 46 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 2: she wins there, maybe she doesn't. I don't know. 47 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:30,239 Speaker 1: Well, I do know that she lives in Kyle's old house. 48 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 2: She does live in Kyle's old house. 49 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 1: And we go there, you do, and it doesn't have 50 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: the black and white floors anymore. 51 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 2: Right, she changed, she changed the floor. She got a 52 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 2: lot of heat for tearing up Kyle's old floors, which 53 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 2: I mean, look, it's her house, it's her right to teach. 54 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: She's a millionaire. She can do whatever she wants. 55 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 2: I did not say that, like I you know, you 56 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 2: said that. 57 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 1: So she said that. 58 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 2: She did tell me that she's the breadwinner in the marriage. 59 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: Well, good for her. Yeah, I didn't see a lot 60 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: of a couple of people who. I didn't see a 61 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: lot of bows. 62 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 2: Okay, but she opens the whole thing, opening the whole Okay, 63 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 2: all right. 64 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:11,799 Speaker 1: I don't see her activated at all. 65 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 2: Well, this is the trailer. It's not the mid season trailer. True, 66 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 2: So this is the opening, so keep that in mind. 67 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 2: We don't throw all the cards down right at the opening. 68 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, Well I'm excited. I I mean, I'm 69 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: not excited to recap it because you guys know how 70 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: that goes for me. 71 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 2: But you have to it's your job. 72 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, just as excited as I am to recap this. 73 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 2: This one, this, yeah, this reunion which is yeah. 74 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: It's okay. Before we get into the reunion, any new 75 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: updates with you? 76 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm good. Are you ready for Bravo Khan? 77 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 2: It's next week? 78 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: I am trying to get myself. I mean, you have 79 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 1: no idea, like, yes, you do? You know that? 80 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 2: Yes, I do? Yes, you like, but I have no 81 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 2: idea under this dress that you're under. 82 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. Like when I saw that I'm presenting at like 83 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: eight thirty at night, I'm like, I don't remember the 84 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: last time I stayed up the wedding. 85 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the wedding time you stay up to eight thirty. 86 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 2: So you can do it again? 87 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I can do it again. 88 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 2: I can do it again. 89 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 1: Can I read a teleprompter? 90 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 2: Yes? 91 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 1: Okay, well we'll see, Yes, we'll see. 92 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 2: We'll see which one are you presenting it? 93 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 1: The Bravos? 94 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 2: Oh good, so I can cheer you one. 95 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 1: Are you going? Yeah, because you'll be there Friday night? Right, okay? Perfect? 96 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 2: This Bravo con thing, like I know the like it's 97 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 2: great to be part of a show and part of 98 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 2: a network that everybody loves and then everybody loves the shows. 99 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 2: But just so you know this is a hard gig 100 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 2: to work as three days of like a lot of energy. 101 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 1: So what are your overall thoughts on part one? 102 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 2: My overall parts? I can this is true? Why is 103 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 2: tamar on not is? Why is Tamara really upset with Shannon? 104 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 2: That's what it feels like this first episode? What is that? 105 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 2: What am I missing here? What am I because I'm 106 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 2: being very serious? What am I missing here? Because the 107 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 2: last episode I saw, I know that they disagreed, but 108 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 2: it seems like did something happen we didn't catch What 109 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 2: does it have to do with like the but Shannon 110 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 2: wasn't on the couch conversation? No, So what is this? 111 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: I think she my guess, and I haven't talked to her 112 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 1: about it. And I know that you guys are gonna 113 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: be like I am a talk to about asked Erica. 114 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: I don't talk to anybody. 115 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 2: About anything right now? So is it is Tamara mad 116 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 2: at Shannon because she was on the couch the couch scene, well, 117 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 2: she didn't know that yet, but they saw it. 118 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: But they don't see it till the end of the 119 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: reunion episode one. 120 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 2: Oh well, then I'm mistaken. So Tamra being on Shannon's 121 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:06,919 Speaker 2: ass is because why, I mean, it did something happen? 122 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 2: That's really what I'm trying to get at. Like what 123 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 2: am I as a viewer missing here? 124 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: I think that it was she didn't want to be interrupted. 125 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:19,160 Speaker 1: She wanted to like Shannon was chiming in every time. 126 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:21,679 Speaker 2: I was trying to speak, and. 127 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 1: She just got over it. But it started to evolve, 128 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:31,359 Speaker 1: evolve and continue on and continue on and continue on. Yes, 129 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: but I think she's probably. 130 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:36,479 Speaker 2: Know what I feel when I watched Tamara in this 131 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 2: first episode. I think she feels overwhelmed and she's reacting 132 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 2: a lot to what people are saying, like I feel 133 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 2: like she feels. To me, it looks like she's overwhelmed 134 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 2: and very reactive to anything anyone says. 135 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: Well, I think Okay, So my overall thoughts on part 136 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: one was Tamra is a ninety five percent. 137 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 2: Of the cunies. Hold on, I just dropped my sheet 138 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 2: my thoughts back together, hold on, get my. 139 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: Okay, Katie does absolutely nothing. 140 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 2: Well, yes, I didn't get any answers, but I guess 141 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 2: Matt comes out to clarify. 142 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 1: It the next time, and that's where we'll get that. 143 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 2: That's where we'll get the answers. 144 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 1: I thought Gina was very likable. 145 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 2: And I liked her dress. I thought she looked very. 146 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 1: Good, stunning, even though she said how uncomfortable she was. 147 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 2: You're always uncomfortable. That's part of the gig. 148 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: Yep. 149 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 2: If you are comfortable sitting on that sofa, you're doing 150 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 2: it all wrong. Nobody should be comfortable on that day, 151 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 2: or in any kind of dress on a sofa for 152 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 2: ten hours. 153 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: And Gretchen could send me right over the edge. 154 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 2: It was giving toddlers and tiaras. 155 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: But even the way she talks, and it's like, I 156 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 1: don't know if is it condescending or is it playing? 157 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 2: You don't like I think promise going to speak for you. Yeah, 158 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 2: you dislike anything that is not direct. Yeah, And you 159 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 2: feel if I were to speak for you that there's 160 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 2: a whole lot of like, just say what you need 161 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 2: to say, clearly. 162 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: And succinctly and let's get through let's move through it. 163 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think that you don't like that. 164 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 1: And I know she feels dodgy to me, yep like 165 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:37,439 Speaker 1: to me, and I know like I would rather somebody 166 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 1: be overly reactive and then dodgy and passive aggress I 167 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: got you. Yeah. Well, it starts off where Tamer talks 168 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 1: about what happened this season when she quit. 169 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 2: Listen, let me tell you something. Every housewife on every franchise, 170 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:03,319 Speaker 2: at every moment has said I've fucked this shit. I've 171 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 2: had it. Yeah, and certainly Tamara has been on long 172 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 2: enough to say fuck this shit, I've really had it. 173 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 2: We've all had those moments. 174 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: Andy admits that he did not think Tamara was calmer 175 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: this season after her therapy. 176 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 2: I don't either. I agree with Andy. It's especially in 177 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 2: this moment. Yeah, and especial in this particular moment. 178 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: Shannon feels like she did not get the grace that 179 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 1: Tamar got when she was going through the hardest time 180 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: in her life. And then Shannon calls Tamra. Tamara grudge. 181 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 2: Shannon hit a house and committed a crime. Tamra's just 182 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 2: having a breakdown. 183 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, those are two. 184 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 2: So here's the thing. I think that's where we're getting at, 185 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 2: is like every I don't know, I can't speak for 186 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 2: these women, but like, Shannon hit a house, could have 187 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 2: put other people in danger, blah blah blah. Tamar's just 188 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 2: blowing up. 189 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 1: Tamera, Yeah, she's at her wits end. 190 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 2: Right, that's you know, not it's not affecting anyone else. 191 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 2: I mean, you know what I mean, Yeah, it's but 192 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 2: Camra grudge. 193 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 1: I can't believe in fifteen seasons no one thought of 194 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 1: that before. 195 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 2: I was a little shocked at that too, and then 196 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 2: everybody was like, oh. 197 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:24,319 Speaker 1: My god, I said, And I was like, how you 198 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: never thought of that before? Like that's an easy one. 199 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 2: It is easy. It's not that creative, it's not that granted. 200 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 2: Judge grudge very much. 201 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: Guess what all those things rhyme they do? Then Andy 202 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: asked Heather why she said Tamor's name when asked who 203 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 1: she wouldn't share sensitive information with at her sleepover party. 204 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 1: Heather explains that it was because of Tamor's inconsistent and 205 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 1: unpredictable nature. 206 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 2: So why And I liked the way Tamar reacted to 207 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 2: Heather here. I did too, And I'm curious Tamra must 208 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 2: value Heather's observation or her friendship or something like. I 209 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 2: think I don't think she feels as judged by Heather 210 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:08,439 Speaker 2: as everyone else, because I. 211 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:12,319 Speaker 1: Think Heather understands what Tamar's actually having to do. 212 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 2: Yes, she's yes, you're right. 213 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: I think she knows that. 214 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 2: Like she knows what's really going on here. 215 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think that Heather had a conversation with 216 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 1: her earlier in the season and they talked about it, 217 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 1: and I think Tamra did take that in. 218 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's nice to see Tamra react to Heather like 219 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 2: that because that's the Tamra that you know, that's. 220 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:40,439 Speaker 1: That's the Tamra that is one of my besties, right. 221 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 2: And that moment there and unfortunately when she's reactive, we 222 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 2: don't get to see that. Yeah, but that's a nice 223 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 2: moment for her because the other moments were very reactive, 224 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 2: allowed and just like, yeah, a lot. 225 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 1: It was a lot. Then Tamar and Shannon discussed what 226 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: happened with tama comments about Shannon's dad. 227 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 2: I told you, yep, I can say it that you can't, yep. 228 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 1: But yeah, because she's pissed, she made the comments under 229 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 1: her breath, saying that Shannon didn't care about her dad, 230 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 1: only herself. But then they gave us a little flashback, Yep, 231 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 1: they did of Shannon saying it not it she said 232 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 1: someone in my family. 233 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 2: She did say someone in my family, And I mean, 234 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 2: did Tamra know that it was her dad? Or would. 235 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 1: I'm assuming they probably talked about it. 236 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 2: Yes. Shannon gets emotional and says her dad told her 237 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 2: two weeks ago that she is the only reason he 238 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 2: is still living and he is an older man, and 239 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 2: I'm sure that that's hard. 240 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 1: I think this is the problem. I know Tamor's trying 241 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: to make a point that Shannon already brought up her 242 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:50,680 Speaker 1: own family's drinking on camera, But this is an issue 243 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 1: she's not going to win. 244 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 2: I agree with you. 245 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, like she's not going to win it. 246 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 2: Well, you said it, so therefore I can say it 247 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 2: not really. Yeah, it doesn't work. No, And we said 248 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 2: that before, Like I can say it all I want, 249 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 2: but you can't say it. 250 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. Then Andy brings up the conversation with Katie and 251 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 1: the bloggers this season. Katie says she is shocked and 252 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 1: pleasantly surprised by all the love she got online after 253 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:17,559 Speaker 1: the lie detector test episode. 254 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 2: Well, you know you have experienced in a lie detector. 255 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 2: I mean I did, like on the show. What maybe 256 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 2: this is because I'm on I'm on the inside. Yeah, 257 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 2: I'm shocked that Katie got the online love. 258 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: I think she got the online love because it felt 259 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 1: like everybody was turning against her. 260 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 2: But maybe she gave them all a reason to do so, 261 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 2: you know, when you're on a show like this, if 262 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 2: it like, let's assume okay, so let's sake, let's assume 263 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 2: that she was talking to bloggers. Yeah, I wouldn't like that. 264 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 1: I wouldn't like that either. But they all are. 265 00:13:56,880 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 2: Apparently they all are. I mean because we just up 266 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 2: on her when you're all doing it kind of thing. 267 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, like if you're all doing it. 268 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 2: Like why pick on her? Was she doing it the 269 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 2: most or is it because she's new? Or is it 270 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 2: because she was giving better information? Like? Why? Why would 271 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 2: it be? If everybody does it? And I'm saying right now, 272 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 2: it's wrong because. 273 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 1: I mean I even saw that. I don't know exactly 274 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 1: what this is, but there's all these dms that people 275 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 1: are forwarding on to me between Emily and a Bravo 276 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: content creator, right, sharing information back and forth. 277 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 2: Right, So it's just. 278 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 1: Like, Okay, everybody's doing it. 279 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hard when you're making these shows and you're 280 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 2: telling people things. 281 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it ends up. 282 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 2: And then you get into a thing where you're like 283 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 2: people come in your comments and they say, hey, I 284 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 2: love and support and you're like, thanks because you don't 285 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 2: want to not answer because in you're accused being rude. 286 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 1: But I don't think Emily was setting her up by 287 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 1: having the light detector tests. I think basically, I think Emily. 288 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 2: The show likes to do light detector tests, and as 289 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 2: the audience, the viewing audience, we all know that. 290 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, so let's like the production tell me I'm hosting 291 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 1: a light detector and that's what. 292 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 2: I did, and I'm only And I love the way 293 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 2: that they said, why is it only this guy? And 294 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 2: the answer was because he's one of the few people 295 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 2: that will appear on camera. So I mean, I love 296 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 2: the way they cleaned that up. I don't think I 297 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 2: didn't catch that. 298 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 1: But Emily being like, there's an eighty six percent chance of. 299 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 2: And it's not admissible in court, she had her stats. 300 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 2: She liked Emily's hair. 301 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 1: Oh, I did like Emily's hair. 302 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 2: That yeah, Emily's pretty girl. 303 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, she's she's pretty girl. 304 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 2: She's pretty girl. 305 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: Then Gina apologizes to Katie for the Asian designer comment 306 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: that came off to Katie as a racist comment. Katie 307 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 1: appreciates Gina's apology, and then Gina wishes she came to 308 00:15:59,160 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: her instead of. 309 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 2: Unique. 310 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 1: Ye. I feel like Katie made a choice to not 311 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: bring it up on camera. Gina, Kiki is the one 312 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: who chose to use the information to make Katie look bad. 313 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 1: Just think about it. Katie didn't bring it up. 314 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 2: You can go both ways? 315 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: Should bring it up? How can I go both ways? 316 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 2: Well, kim up. Why would Kiki Monique go and do this? 317 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 2: And who reached out to Kiki Monique? 318 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 1: Well, she ended up meeting. She ended up meeting with 319 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: Gina And was it Gretchen? Yeah, Gina and Gretchen. Okay, 320 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 1: So to bring us back, Gretchen asked kik Monique to 321 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 1: come on the show, and then she needed somebody else 322 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: to be what witness? 323 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I get it. I would too if 324 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 2: I were Gretchen. 325 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 1: I don't think Gina's intention No, I don't think she 326 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 1: had bad intentions. I don't think she had bad intentions. 327 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 1: But also, Katie, speak up. This is where you start talking. 328 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 2: What would you have liked to have seen from Katie here? 329 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:06,199 Speaker 1: It really hurt my feelings. What is your problem with 330 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:15,120 Speaker 1: me not wearing an Asian designer like she could have? 331 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 2: She underperformed for you. 332 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 1: She underperformed for me, especially with who came and sat 333 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: down in that chair and I interviewed. 334 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 2: With Oh, that's right, you had her on this show. 335 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, and she had a big energy and she was funny. 336 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:35,440 Speaker 2: But didn't they bring that up that she has more 337 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 2: energy to bloggers she was more interested in No, no, 338 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:44,479 Speaker 2: I'm not you, No, no, no, not at all. I 339 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:47,880 Speaker 2: was just thinking, like someone said, she had more energy 340 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 2: with others off the show than she does with the cast. 341 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, and. 342 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 2: That's interesting that you would say that too. 343 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's what it was. Yeah, yeah, I mean 344 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:01,159 Speaker 1: because she had a lot of she was funny, she 345 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 1: made me laugh, she was charming, she'd all the different things. 346 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:09,360 Speaker 1: And then I see her sitting here barely, barely speaking 347 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 1: and barely standing up for herself. I mean, you had 348 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 1: eight months to prepare for this. 349 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, reunions are tough. Maybe she got intimidated. 350 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: By what Gretcher's dress. 351 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:28,199 Speaker 2: No, I think you know, well, you have a lot 352 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 2: to answer for. An entire cast does not want to 353 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 2: shoot with you, and they stopped you shooting with them 354 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:34,919 Speaker 2: in the middle of the season. 355 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 1: That's true, you. 356 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 2: Know, So there's if I was Katie, I would feel 357 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:41,200 Speaker 2: a certain way walking into that room knowing that people 358 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 2: did not trust me, knowing that I was stopped from 359 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 2: participating in this show midway. But my ass would have 360 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 2: been fighting and cousin. And she sat there. 361 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:56,120 Speaker 1: She sat there. And this is also where I wish 362 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 1: some of the women would have said to her what 363 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,400 Speaker 1: we heard you know in the press, which is that 364 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 1: she participates more with online people than she. 365 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 2: Does the cast. 366 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: The cast. Like if somebody would have said that to 367 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 1: her face, I'm curious what. 368 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:17,160 Speaker 2: Her response would have been. Maybe they do we are 369 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 2: just the first episode. She doesn't go away right like 370 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 2: she's does. She sit there the whole time, So maybe 371 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 2: we're not there yet because her husband does come on 372 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 2: the next time. So maybe And I'm I am, I 373 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 2: am interested in seeing this now I'm interested. I notice 374 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 2: I didn't want to see him the entire season, but 375 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 2: now I want to see what he has to say 376 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 2: about how many times people called where was Slade? Well, 377 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 2: I'm glad he's not there. He's going to show up. 378 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:48,159 Speaker 2: No he's not, thank god, because they would have. 379 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 1: Shown him when they showed Matt not necessarily, I think so, 380 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 1: I think like that's very telling if Slade's not there, 381 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 1: Slade does anything to get on camera. 382 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:01,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think that there's also been heat of 383 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:04,360 Speaker 2: why does Slade show up and have to explain Gretchen's 384 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 2: side of the story? Why does he constantly have to 385 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 2: get involved? And maybe they took that as like a hey, 386 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:10,160 Speaker 2: you should sit this one out. 387 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that's the point. 388 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 2: You should sit this one out because everybody's tired of. 389 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:17,160 Speaker 1: You, Everyone is tired of him. 390 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. 391 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:20,400 Speaker 1: Then Emily opens up about everything going on with her son. 392 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 1: Emily explains that after the show aired, many moms reached 393 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: out to her to see if Luke possibly had pandas, 394 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 1: the bacteria from strep throat that affects the brain and 395 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:31,640 Speaker 1: leaves to our brains. We have a friend. 396 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:35,199 Speaker 2: Whose daughter has pandas. Yes, I didn't know about it 397 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 2: until our friend, and it's apparently it's really bad. 398 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:40,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, it can affect so many. 399 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,159 Speaker 2: Maybe that's what I mean. I had a lot of 400 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 2: strip as a kid, did. 401 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:47,719 Speaker 1: You I had? No, not really. 402 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 2: I had a lot of strap. 403 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 1: I had a lot of ear. 404 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 2: Like ear infections and strap infections. 405 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 1: I had a lot of air infections. 406 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 2: Do you know what I had when I came home 407 00:20:58,680 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 2: from Berlin? 408 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 1: When I you did. 409 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 2: It was gnarly. That was horrible. 410 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 1: I feel like we all got sick there. 411 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 2: Mm hmmmm. So Luke's going to be getting laser treatments 412 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:17,640 Speaker 2: done on his brain. I didn't know that was a thing. 413 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 2: I didn't know, not that I should, but it sounds intense. 414 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 1: It sounds intense, especially because it's the repetition of it. 415 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:26,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, how many treatments? 416 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 1: How many treatments in a row? But I do like 417 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 1: when she opens up and she talks about how Shane. 418 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 1: You know, she gives Shane a hard time sometimes on 419 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:40,199 Speaker 1: the show because he's not as warm and fuzzy, but 420 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 1: that's actually what she needs. 421 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:43,880 Speaker 2: That is what she needs. But also that's how men 422 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 2: listen men. And then she said she didn't get that 423 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:52,399 Speaker 2: from him, so she gets it from her girlfriends. 424 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:59,400 Speaker 1: And then she names everybody except for she didn't name Tam. 425 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:04,959 Speaker 1: She didn't name clearly, she didn't name Kakatie. 426 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 2: Well, yeah that we knew. 427 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:11,360 Speaker 1: Thankfully she didn't name Gretchen, and I would have been 428 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:11,879 Speaker 1: like what. 429 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 2: So Tamar saw her daughter Sidney recently, and Tama gets 430 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:20,199 Speaker 2: emotional about talking about her conversations with her daughter, explaining 431 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 2: how special of a moment, it was okay, so I 432 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:27,440 Speaker 2: they're estranged, right, yes, for for how long? A couple 433 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 2: of years, a couple of years. So maybe Sydney's coming around. 434 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 1: Maybe Sidney's coming around. I think having those moments, I 435 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 1: think because Tamara had a pretty dramatic divorce from her 436 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 1: ex husband, and I think from what I've heard, there 437 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:49,680 Speaker 1: was a little bit of allegedly parental alienation. 438 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 2: Oh I see from one side, I think that, Look, 439 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 2: divorce sucks, and there's always yeah, everybody's at their absolute worst. 440 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 1: But I do know that it's something that really aches 441 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 1: at Tama's heart every single day. 442 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 2: Of course it does any mom that's not talking to 443 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 2: their kids. Yeah, and this happens to all of us, 444 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 2: by the way. You know, when your kids grow up, 445 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,159 Speaker 2: you assume that somehow or know that they're going to 446 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 2: magically always be like they were when they look, they don't. 447 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 2: They have their own thoughts, their own brains, And sometimes 448 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 2: I myself am like, are you sure you're mine? Are 449 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 2: you sure? 450 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:30,119 Speaker 1: Like? 451 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 2: Are you how can you be thinking? 452 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 1: So You're like, how how are we so? 453 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 2: How are we so different in this moment right now? 454 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 1: But then Gretchen is back on the reunion couch and 455 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 1: explains how Slade contributes to her household. He is a 456 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 1: consultant and she is an influencer. 457 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:52,719 Speaker 2: But he is on the Liberachi Foundation. Now, honey, I 458 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 2: told you. When I'm telling you, I gasp. First off, 459 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 2: I love Liberal and why because he was bab But why? 460 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 1: I said? Why? 461 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 2: What is the Liberaci Foundation doing? And why is Slade 462 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:11,920 Speaker 2: on it? 463 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,160 Speaker 1: Because he has a friend who runs it? 464 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 2: But what does it do? 465 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 1: And how much time is this requiring? 466 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 2: Are you getting paid for this? And if so, why, how? 467 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 2: Like what do you do for that? I don't know? 468 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 1: At Liberally you're consulting the Liberal to do what? I 469 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:28,640 Speaker 1: don't know? 470 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 2: Like where did the furs go? But what are you directing? 471 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:35,919 Speaker 2: I need clarification the Liberaci thing, even Andy, like I 472 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 2: was like Liberachi herself. Liberaci is fabulous. I want all 473 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 2: of his furs and his rolls Royce and his home 474 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 2: in Palm Springs is amazing. But what is the foundation doing? 475 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 1: And what is Slade doing? He's listed on the website. 476 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:55,639 Speaker 2: Okay, maybe he a consultant. What does that mean? Whenever 477 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,479 Speaker 2: I hear someone as a consultant, I'm always like, you 478 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:00,439 Speaker 2: get paid to do what give you that's. 479 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 1: The normally a word before that, like, isn't it normally 480 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 1: Like I'm a business consultant, I'm an entertainment. 481 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 2: I could consult on a lot of shit. 482 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 1: I mean, we could be consultant. 483 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:13,159 Speaker 2: We are consulting right now, I want to know the 484 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 2: exact definition of the word consultant. To seek advice or 485 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 2: information from someone. A can function is both a verb 486 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 2: and a noun, meaning it depends on context. Okay, great 487 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:30,119 Speaker 2: like life, to discuss or deliberate together. To refer to 488 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:35,199 Speaker 2: a source of information as a noun, refers to a 489 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 2: consultation or a session of advice. The lawyer offers a 490 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,640 Speaker 2: free initial consult. 491 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,159 Speaker 1: Right, but see how it says the lawyer. 492 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 2: Right, that's your point. Yeah, there's something like a legal consultant, 493 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:55,679 Speaker 2: or a crisis consultant or a housewives consultant, which is 494 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 2: what we are. 495 00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 1: We've given ourselves the consultants union consultant. 496 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:02,360 Speaker 2: We're reunion consulting. 497 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 1: Don't you want to consult with us? 498 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,880 Speaker 2: I would? I would too, I would if I were new, 499 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,880 Speaker 2: I would seek out my advice. Yep, instead of trying 500 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 2: to shit talk me. It's not going to work. 501 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 1: I can tell you it didn't work. But then they 502 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 1: get back to the bringing up the financial situation and 503 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 1: Gretchen had said in the past that she could not 504 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 1: marry Slade because of financial reasons. 505 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 2: That's great, I'm glad you didn't. Yeah, But then Gretchen 506 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 2: explains that if they had a ceremony to get married 507 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 2: with a pastor. Oh but it isn't a legal documented marriage. 508 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 2: But what is common law? So how long have you 509 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,200 Speaker 2: been cohabitating? Because there is such thing as common law 510 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 2: and women. Oh yeah, so the common law is like 511 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 2: ten years are so he could still get your cash? 512 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 1: That's true. I think he's probably his debt. Could she 513 00:26:58,000 --> 00:26:58,640 Speaker 1: get his debt? 514 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:01,399 Speaker 2: I don't really know how that worked. We need a 515 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 2: legal consultant. 516 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 1: Well, we need to understand this because can somebody please 517 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,879 Speaker 1: explain to me how Taram or talking about Slade on 518 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,400 Speaker 1: the show has affected his life more than being arrested. 519 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,719 Speaker 2: Look, bottom line is when you put yourself on these shows, 520 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 2: you're going to get the good and the bad. Yeah, 521 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,920 Speaker 2: and if you've been arrested, people are going to talk 522 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:21,400 Speaker 2: about it. 523 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, speaking of talking show. 524 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,199 Speaker 1: Sorry, why I was in the restroom. I got a 525 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:42,920 Speaker 1: little bee in my bonnet. Oh okay, what little reminder 526 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:47,359 Speaker 1: of something? What how is Jen first seat when we 527 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 1: haven't mentioned her one time so far? 528 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 2: This? You know what? Come to think of it, all 529 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:57,639 Speaker 2: I saw was I liked her lip color. Oh I 530 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 2: did to I liked her lip color. But you're right, 531 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:04,440 Speaker 2: why is she sitting there when we haven't really opened up. 532 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,400 Speaker 1: Not one thing. The only thing that we got from 533 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 1: her is once again Katie tries to look to her 534 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 1: for help and she was not giving it, and she 535 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 1: would refuse to give it. 536 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 2: She was not giving it. 537 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 1: And then someone even kind of steps in and is like, well, 538 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:26,119 Speaker 1: you actually said this, and she was like, oh okay, 539 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:27,360 Speaker 1: well anyways. 540 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, yeah, no, you're right. Jen has not well again, 541 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 2: it's the first episode we'll see, but you still normally. 542 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,640 Speaker 1: See something of each person. 543 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 2: We do not do the seating charts. Okay, well we should. 544 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 1: We should. You should. 545 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 2: I don't know what stops going on, but you should 546 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 2: do the seating charts. 547 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 1: Could you imagine? Hey Andy, it's Teddy. I just wanted 548 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 1: to shoot you a text to let you know that 549 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 1: I'm unhappy with this seating chart s. 550 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 2: I have a long list of concerns and I'll tell 551 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 2: you exactly where I need to sit this year. No, okay. 552 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 2: Andy brings up the rumor that Gretchen brought back to 553 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 2: the surface and how the undisclosed person in the affaired 554 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 2: rumor okay, denied the allegation and insisted that this was 555 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 2: a fabrication. Hood for you, whoever you are on the 556 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 2: anonymous affair person, Good for you for sticking up for yourself. 557 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. Heather explains that this is not the premeditated thing, 558 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 1: and Tamra interprets Heather to call bullshit. Shannon tries to 559 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 1: add something to the conversation and Tamra shuts her down 560 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 1: from talking. This is what this is the part, tam 561 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 1: I love you. I love you to death. Obviously you're 562 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 1: one of my closest friends. But I don't I really 563 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 1: You're right, I don't really understand the Shannon. 564 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 2: Shutdown shutdown and the constant Shannon like getting at Shannon 565 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 2: when Shannon. 566 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 1: But I guess Shannon was trying to way in on everything. 567 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 1: She was saying yes and were the other women. 568 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,479 Speaker 2: I mean, everybody's chatty at a reunion, but for some reason, 569 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 2: Tamara is irritated with Shannon more than everybody else. At 570 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 2: least it seems that way to me. Whatever, That's why 571 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 2: I'm asking, is there something I'm missing? Did something happen? 572 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 1: All I know is that Tama posted a picture in 573 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 1: her reunion dress. I think she's with Andy, and she says, 574 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 1: who can hold a grudge when you've got to carry 575 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 1: the whole show or something like that. 576 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 2: I was like, well, well. 577 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 1: She isn't wrong. 578 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 2: Andy asked Tamara if she brings up old dirt on people. 579 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 2: First off, yes, and so does everybody else, And Jady. 580 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 1: Don't act like you don't know this answer. 581 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 2: Well, that's the whole point is to get her to 582 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 2: say no, I don't, so you can go yes, you do. 583 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 2: You're proving my point. Come on, like this is classic. 584 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 2: Don't bait her then you know you know yes, not 585 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 2: only does she do it, but everybody is it? You 586 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 2: all do it, I do it, will do it, I'll 587 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 2: do it. 588 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 1: Bring up old dirt. She proceeds to bring up old 589 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 1: situations like the night Shannon recorded Victory see. 590 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 2: Here's my plate. Then that's when Andy goes, see, you're 591 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 2: doing what exactly what I asked? 592 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 1: You know I'm not. 593 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 2: Andy laughs that tam reproved his point, and Shannon tries 594 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 2: to add something in tamor as a shut up. I 595 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 2: think she's just really had it with Shannon. But there's 596 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 2: some some reason, there are some ask her why. I know, 597 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 2: I need to know why, because I wonder if this 598 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 2: gets into like the second episode where they just keep 599 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 2: going back and forth. 600 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 1: Do I wish I was allowed, we were allowed to 601 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 1: call Tam and just ask her, just do it anyway. Hello, Hey, 602 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 1: you're on the Podhi, Hi, Hi, and you're hey Dana Erica. 603 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 1: We have one question. Yes, is there something that we 604 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 1: missed on why you were annoyed at Shannon. 605 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 2: So much in the first episode. Yes, because she wouldn't 606 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 2: let me talk. 607 00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 1: Every time I tried to talk, she would like, you 608 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 1: say something. 609 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 2: I'm like, just let me talk, okay. So there wasn't 610 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 2: anything other than that. 611 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 1: Oh, nothing more than she treated me like shell season no, but. 612 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 2: No, okay, yes, I I okay, I got that part. 613 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 2: But there wasn't like something that I missed because I 614 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 2: couldn't understand okay, all right, okay. 615 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 1: Every time I was trying to have a conversation with somebody, 616 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 1: she would butt in, So I'm like, stop talking, stop talking, 617 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 1: shut up, okay, and can you give me the direct 618 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 1: quote of what you said on your post post the 619 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 1: post with Andy, the post with Andy, Oh, the post. 620 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 1: Oh yes, let me look real quick. I can't remember 621 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 1: anything said. 622 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 2: Why Carrie a grudge when you can carry the show. 623 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 1: Tagline for next year? 624 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 2: That's actually a great one, all right, that's it. I 625 00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 2: had a question. I couldn't figure out why she was 626 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 2: irritating you so much, and I wanted to know if 627 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 2: there was something that I missed. My god, okay, by Tim, 628 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 2: love you bye. That's hilarious. It's just her, she's they've 629 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 2: had it with each other, and this is what happens, like, 630 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 2: this is what happens when you've been cast member for 631 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 2: you know, you've been in this this thing for so long. 632 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 2: Get on each other's nerves. Yeah, well, listen, Gretchen brings 633 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 2: up lies Tamor has said about her, and Gretchen and 634 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 2: Tamra call each other liars and pieces of shit. 635 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 1: This isn't me defending Tamra, but they seem to twist 636 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 1: everything back on her, like instead of pressing Gretchen about 637 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 1: the affair and how she made a question about her 638 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 1: own singing and to a convo about tarmor singing, calling 639 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 1: slate on camera to get them to dig into it. 640 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 1: We're talking about how bad Tamra has been. 641 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 2: Well, I think, but that's that's what you're doing, you know, 642 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 2: Gretchen's Gretchen's point is to say, well, look at how 643 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 2: bad things that Tamra's done, and then Tarma's like, well, 644 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 2: actually you So this is a back and forth. I 645 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 2: personally don't think there's any resolution here. No, I don't 646 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,880 Speaker 2: think there's any there's no moving forward, there's no resolution. 647 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 2: I do not think these women like each other. I 648 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,799 Speaker 2: think that's Shannon and Tamor like each other more than 649 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 2: Tamra and Gretchen. 650 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 1: I agree. I also think that I haven't noticed Gretchen 651 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:25,280 Speaker 1: connecting with anybody else on the cast closely. 652 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:29,719 Speaker 2: Well, she was connecting with Katie, you could say. One 653 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 2: could say Gretchen and Slave were using Katie and Matt. 654 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 1: True and the show started filming. 655 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,880 Speaker 2: Forgive me Jen's right, Ryan, Jen and Ryan. So you 656 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,839 Speaker 2: remember we did see Gretchen and Slade being friendly with 657 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 2: Katie and Matt and Jen and. 658 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:48,719 Speaker 1: Ryan before the show started filming, maybe before she got 659 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 1: the job. 660 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 2: No, but we saw them on camera together, like talking poorly, 661 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:58,759 Speaker 2: talking about Tamar and everybody was saying, how tamar beat 662 00:34:58,840 --> 00:34:59,400 Speaker 2: up on them? 663 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 1: I think, and we'll talk to any Gretchen. 664 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:06,399 Speaker 2: And anybody that's anti Tama. Yeah, And I think that 665 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,279 Speaker 2: that's what I'm getting at here, is that it's a 666 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:13,439 Speaker 2: two person campaign, meaning Gretchen and Slave to come in 667 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 2: and befriend anybody that is anti Tamra. Yeah, And that's okay, 668 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 2: but it runs its course and it can't just be 669 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 2: a one trick pony the entire time. Like I said 670 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,879 Speaker 2: in the beginning, I would have loved had Gretchen come 671 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 2: in and been more friendly to Tamarra, try to put 672 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,359 Speaker 2: the pass behind, try legitimately. 673 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,239 Speaker 1: And then get involved in new drama exactly. 674 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,239 Speaker 2: That would have made it more interesting than you and 675 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,960 Speaker 2: I sitting here saying, well, I can't believe people remember 676 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,520 Speaker 2: fifteen year old beef. And I'm sure the audience is 677 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,560 Speaker 2: like feeling the same way. Okay, you have bad blood, 678 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 2: you have a lot of water under the bridge, you 679 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,720 Speaker 2: don't like each other, bad things were said on both sides, 680 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:56,719 Speaker 2: but you're here now, so could you find about new shit? 681 00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:01,400 Speaker 1: And we have to say Tamara did try not to 682 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:03,280 Speaker 1: bring up old stuff with Grutchen. 683 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,120 Speaker 2: But I don't think that that was ever. I just 684 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:09,440 Speaker 2: get the sense that Gretchen and Slade came in to 685 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:11,719 Speaker 2: prove a point, and. 686 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 1: All they proved that it was annoying. 687 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. The further you push and the more recruits you get, Yeah, 688 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:23,719 Speaker 2: it just gets It doesn't work like come in with 689 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:27,280 Speaker 2: your best foot forward, don't come in like with a grudge. Yeah, 690 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:29,240 Speaker 2: Gretchen grudge. 691 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 1: Gretchen grudge. 692 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 2: Gretcher's grudge. Gretchers, you know you love that news flash 693 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:42,439 Speaker 2: update from Tamera. Shannon's outfit bugged her too. I will 694 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 2: say this, Shannon shoes bugged me. 695 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,719 Speaker 1: They bugged me too. Were they a weird shape and 696 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:47,440 Speaker 1: about like. 697 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,200 Speaker 2: A weird shape? Yeah, it felt like a weird shape. 698 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 2: I don't know. 699 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,640 Speaker 1: And I feel like Shannon's worn this before button white. 700 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,160 Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know about that. 701 00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 1: Very similar type silhouette. 702 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 2: I liked Gina's dress. I liked Emily's hair. This is 703 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:07,880 Speaker 2: superficial ship, but we're on a superficial show. Yeah, so 704 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:12,160 Speaker 2: who cares? You know what I don't like. I have 705 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 2: a little bit of beef with Bravo. Why is everybody? 706 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:18,080 Speaker 2: Why is why is the contrast pushed so hard? 707 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:19,320 Speaker 1: The pink and red. 708 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, why are the contrasts pushed so hard? 709 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,200 Speaker 1: And why is it? 710 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,200 Speaker 2: Why are the contrasts pushed. 711 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,960 Speaker 1: So like the things like nude color. 712 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,960 Speaker 2: But I think it's in the processing of the I 713 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 2: think it's like an after it's not in the The 714 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,440 Speaker 2: lighting looks like one thing. And then when I look 715 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:40,640 Speaker 2: on my I'm like, wow. 716 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,000 Speaker 1: I gotta say, they didn't get that Beverly Hills filter. 717 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 1: They did not get that Beverly. 718 00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,880 Speaker 2: Because we're all bitching over there. Yeah, made me look terrible, 719 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:56,439 Speaker 2: like and rightfully, so they did not get it. It's 720 00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 2: something in the contrast or in the lighting. Yeah, it's 721 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:00,920 Speaker 2: something weird. 722 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,399 Speaker 1: Because you notice every single little thing. 723 00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:09,000 Speaker 2: Everybody's skin is super textured. Yeah, everybody's hair. Like guys, 724 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,800 Speaker 2: just to speak for myself, I'm fifty four. I need help. 725 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,920 Speaker 2: I don't need high death, you know what I mean, Like, 726 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:20,200 Speaker 2: I don't need We're trying to sell this fantasy over here, 727 00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:21,600 Speaker 2: and you guys are giving us. 728 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,560 Speaker 1: You're showing you know, we still get pimples. 729 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:26,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean we do, but I don't need to 730 00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,279 Speaker 2: like give us a little. 731 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,000 Speaker 1: Give us a little gloss, give us some Kardashian filter. 732 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,560 Speaker 2: Well that would just be eyeballs and teeth and they 733 00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:36,719 Speaker 2: just blow you right out. 734 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,000 Speaker 1: I'd be like Gretchen on her Instagram. 735 00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:44,160 Speaker 2: Oh I haven't looked? Is it need we need to 736 00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:46,960 Speaker 2: look at this together on this Okay? 737 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,520 Speaker 1: No, it's not a gang up because there's only two 738 00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:50,160 Speaker 1: of us. 739 00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:54,000 Speaker 2: Okay, duo tag team, it's a duo. 740 00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:59,759 Speaker 1: Hold on, Gretchen, I. 741 00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,880 Speaker 2: Am an interested to see said what she blocked you? 742 00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,360 Speaker 1: No, she felt it, says. Do you want to follow 743 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,640 Speaker 1: her back? Shocking? 744 00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:08,600 Speaker 2: Do it? 745 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:13,279 Speaker 1: I'm not sure today is the day. Okay, hold on, 746 00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,960 Speaker 1: I don't I need one where she doesn't. She's calmed 747 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:17,839 Speaker 1: down a bit from when she doesn't show her not. 748 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:19,680 Speaker 2: By the way, that blowout is still killing it. That 749 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:24,000 Speaker 2: front bank, Yeah, her guy has it laid. I'm telling you, 750 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:27,920 Speaker 2: whoop dang it. I'm so annoyed why she took off 751 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:31,880 Speaker 2: all the hyper filtered ones. Yeah, don't ask me to 752 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:35,680 Speaker 2: do it. That's a charcooterie teddy, I know what are 753 00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,160 Speaker 2: we looking at her? Does she do a cooking thing? 754 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:38,920 Speaker 1: No? 755 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,359 Speaker 2: She says she's an influencer. What is she influencing? 756 00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:44,040 Speaker 1: Charcuterie trays? 757 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:44,520 Speaker 2: Really? 758 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,120 Speaker 1: No? Everything this bag? 759 00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:51,360 Speaker 2: Let me see this, I know, Oh, I see. 760 00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:52,960 Speaker 1: You see what I mean, there's no nostrils. 761 00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:59,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, I'm fine with this is pretty though. 762 00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:00,759 Speaker 1: She she's a pretty girl. 763 00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:07,000 Speaker 2: She is a pretty girl. Humm, okay, well yeah, code 764 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:08,160 Speaker 2: twenty or whatever. 765 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, code. 766 00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:13,120 Speaker 2: So what are you most excited to see this next episode? 767 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,239 Speaker 2: What do you want to have happened in a perfect world? 768 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,879 Speaker 2: What would you like seriously, like a producer, now, in a. 769 00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:22,960 Speaker 1: Perfect world, I would like to see because the way 770 00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:26,200 Speaker 1: Tamar just was on the phone right now with us, 771 00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,960 Speaker 1: it's funny and light, right, Yes, I would like to 772 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:31,000 Speaker 1: see that, tamor. 773 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:32,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know how that is when you get 774 00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,719 Speaker 2: in that room and there's all that pressure and things 775 00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:38,080 Speaker 2: start coming at you. I do this too, like I'm 776 00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:44,480 Speaker 2: actually nice. People don't know this. Huh, people don't know this, 777 00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:48,120 Speaker 2: but I mean I get it. You know, it feels 778 00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,319 Speaker 2: it's a lot. And yes, I would like to see 779 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:55,640 Speaker 2: Grutchen and Grutchen, my god, Tamera lighter and more fun. 780 00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:57,399 Speaker 2: I'd like to see all of them more light and fun. 781 00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:59,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would like to see all of them more 782 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,399 Speaker 1: light and fun. I think that Gina consistently keeps it. 783 00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:05,680 Speaker 2: I told you I liked Gina. I told you I'm 784 00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:06,799 Speaker 2: glad she's grown on you. 785 00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,560 Speaker 1: She's grown on me this season. Well, I'm sorry. It's 786 00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:10,919 Speaker 1: slim pickens around here. 787 00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:14,799 Speaker 2: It is, but at least there's a little hope. 788 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:18,440 Speaker 1: I'd like to see Katie speak. I don't want Matt 789 00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:22,000 Speaker 1: just to come in and steamroll and blast for her. Yeah, 790 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,640 Speaker 1: I don't want that, right, and then her to like 791 00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:27,520 Speaker 1: put her hand on him and not say a word. 792 00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:29,279 Speaker 2: I don't like it when the men yell at the women. 793 00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,279 Speaker 1: I don't know. I just overall want Do. 794 00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:34,080 Speaker 2: You want Shannon and Tamora to make up or do 795 00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:34,439 Speaker 2: you care? 796 00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,520 Speaker 1: I think ultimately those two will make up. I think 797 00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:41,040 Speaker 1: there's a room for reconciliation between the two of them, 798 00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,640 Speaker 1: where I would not say the same with Gretchen. 799 00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:45,840 Speaker 2: No, I don't think that's happening. What about Emily and 800 00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:47,319 Speaker 2: Tamra because they get into it. 801 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:49,640 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we didn't even talk about this. 802 00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:51,440 Speaker 2: Yes, what do you think about that? 803 00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:55,080 Speaker 1: Oh? Another thing that I got pissed off about. 804 00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:56,520 Speaker 2: What were they even upset about? 805 00:41:56,600 --> 00:42:00,520 Speaker 1: Okay, so Emily is saying, I'm not even on your 806 00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:04,640 Speaker 1: oh yeah feed anymore? Okay, let me explain how this 807 00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:08,480 Speaker 1: show works. It's too teas in a pod and then 808 00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:13,160 Speaker 1: underneath to teas in a Pod. So we're considered producers. 809 00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:18,040 Speaker 1: There's a bunch of other podcasts, this being one of them. Yep, 810 00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:22,279 Speaker 1: Emily's being one of them. When the podcasts first start out, 811 00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:25,520 Speaker 1: we keep the person on our feed to get them 812 00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:29,760 Speaker 1: their sea legs. It's new, it's brand new. And even 813 00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:33,960 Speaker 1: though Emily may not be on our feed, which she 814 00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:37,680 Speaker 1: still is by the way, I'm confused. Emily seems to be, 815 00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,680 Speaker 1: you know, the truth teller, and so I'm confused why 816 00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:44,800 Speaker 1: Emily would say that she's off our feed when legally 817 00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:48,520 Speaker 1: Brunette has been on our feed every other week. Okay, 818 00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:52,640 Speaker 1: So yes, she also has now because the show did well, 819 00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:55,520 Speaker 1: it was, it's a good show, but it's also has 820 00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:59,840 Speaker 1: been on our feed since the beginning, right, Emily and 821 00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:04,520 Speaker 1: I did a podcast together prior. Okay, And then now 822 00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:08,919 Speaker 1: she's saying, well, I'm not even on your network anymore. Well, one, 823 00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:13,120 Speaker 1: your podcast is iHeart. Two, you're still in our feed. 824 00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,520 Speaker 2: So she's still under the two teas in a pod. 825 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:21,640 Speaker 1: Yes, she also has. Yeah, she airs at least two 826 00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:26,399 Speaker 1: times a month on our feed. Okay, So I don't 827 00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:27,799 Speaker 1: know what was her point in that. 828 00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,799 Speaker 2: I don't know, But then Tamor said, you flow up. 829 00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:37,960 Speaker 2: I mean, oh my god, We're going to sit here 830 00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:41,319 Speaker 2: and just talk about Tamar the entire time, which is fine. 831 00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:44,000 Speaker 2: She had a lot to say, but yeah, then what 832 00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:45,160 Speaker 2: is there beef? Though? 833 00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:48,880 Speaker 1: I don't get why Emily all of a sudden. 834 00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:52,440 Speaker 2: What's happening here? I don't know, because I thought she 835 00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:54,800 Speaker 2: and Tamor were pretty straight. I thought they were pretty 836 00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:57,240 Speaker 2: I'm confused about a lot of these twists and turns 837 00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:01,040 Speaker 2: on this shoot day. I a lot missing information. 838 00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,640 Speaker 1: I think what we're missing is what we found out 839 00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:04,400 Speaker 1: at the finale. 840 00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:06,920 Speaker 2: You mean the couch conversation. 841 00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,480 Speaker 1: The couch conversation. I think the couch. 842 00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:10,920 Speaker 2: Conversation has twisted everything. 843 00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,719 Speaker 1: I twisted everything around and got everybody all pissed at 844 00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,320 Speaker 1: Tamra when even though. 845 00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:18,680 Speaker 2: I didn't like to see Tamra walk in with Katie, 846 00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:21,319 Speaker 2: she's strong enough to walk in on her own. She 847 00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:24,080 Speaker 2: doesn't need to walk in with Katy. I would I 848 00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:26,680 Speaker 2: would realize, Yeah, I would have liked to have seen 849 00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:28,359 Speaker 2: Tamra walk in on her fucking own. 850 00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:31,080 Speaker 1: Yeah I didn't even see I would. 851 00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:32,960 Speaker 2: Have liked that she you don't need to walk in 852 00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,600 Speaker 2: with Katie and Katie needs to walk in on her own. 853 00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:37,960 Speaker 1: Two Katie needs to walk in first on her. 854 00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:41,000 Speaker 2: Own right and clean up whatever she's got to clean up, 855 00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:44,759 Speaker 2: say whatever she's got to say. Tamra's, you know, a 856 00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,279 Speaker 2: lead on the show for a long time as is 857 00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:51,560 Speaker 2: like Shannon Heather. You know, I just I didn't. I 858 00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:53,399 Speaker 2: didn't like that pairing. I didn't think it fit. 859 00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:57,360 Speaker 1: I don't think that Katie had some redemption. 860 00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:00,719 Speaker 2: Arc here, not yet, not in this for episode now. 861 00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:02,600 Speaker 2: I don't know what's coming in two and three, but 862 00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:04,280 Speaker 2: so far no. 863 00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:08,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, So I mean, I think here's the thing. 864 00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:10,200 Speaker 2: I thought it was a good episode. It flew by, 865 00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:14,480 Speaker 2: It did fly by. It was loud, it was loud. 866 00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:18,239 Speaker 2: But I don't know that anything's okay. So we opened up. 867 00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:20,759 Speaker 2: Not that anything's supposed to get resolved in the first episode, 868 00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:24,520 Speaker 2: but I don't know if anything's gonna get resolved. 869 00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:27,160 Speaker 1: Do you think Andy seemed like happy Andy or he 870 00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:31,120 Speaker 1: was like you know sometimes he gets annoyed. 871 00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:35,680 Speaker 2: Well, I think Andy has the patience of job and 872 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:39,000 Speaker 2: with all of us. Can you imagine like that being 873 00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:41,160 Speaker 2: Andy Cohen and having to sit there with all of 874 00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:43,440 Speaker 2: these reunions, not just housewives, but like all of the 875 00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:47,480 Speaker 2: other shows, to fielding all of these questions and calming 876 00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:52,080 Speaker 2: all these personalities down. Yes, a thousand people talk. I 877 00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:55,919 Speaker 2: love the way Alex basking was. Alex was like, NOI 878 00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,920 Speaker 2: didn't good for you. Alex noid did not. 879 00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,560 Speaker 1: Alex Baskin just talked in and he said he did 880 00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:02,920 Speaker 1: not do. 881 00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,400 Speaker 2: That, right, Alex Paskin just said he did not do that. 882 00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:07,840 Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, he just called me just 883 00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:10,080 Speaker 2: say he really did not do that. But No, I 884 00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:13,239 Speaker 2: think that Andy does a great job of, you know, 885 00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:16,000 Speaker 2: fielding all of these questions. Obviously he's got people in 886 00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:18,200 Speaker 2: his ear. Andy's having to control the tempo and the 887 00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:20,719 Speaker 2: questions of all these women on these couches. That is 888 00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:21,680 Speaker 2: an exhausting thing. 889 00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:25,440 Speaker 1: That is an exhausting thing. Yeah, but I thought it 890 00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:28,600 Speaker 1: was a good episode. I hope to see some shifts 891 00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:32,320 Speaker 1: and personality m hm for episode two. 892 00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:37,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm excited to see where the Katie thing unfolds. 893 00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:42,879 Speaker 2: I do want Jen to speak up. You know, you're 894 00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:44,920 Speaker 2: sitting there next to Andy for a reason. What is 895 00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:49,560 Speaker 2: that reason? What was that reason? I need I need 896 00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:56,239 Speaker 2: to see her speak I need to see let's see 897 00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:58,080 Speaker 2: what what else do I think is going to happen. 898 00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:00,680 Speaker 2: I'm not quite sure, but I I need to hear 899 00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:01,160 Speaker 2: your voice. 900 00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,719 Speaker 1: I think they're expecting a lot out of Matt and Katie. 901 00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:07,600 Speaker 2: I can tell I'm not going to get it. I 902 00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:09,560 Speaker 2: think you're going to get it out of him. Yeah, 903 00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:11,560 Speaker 2: I don't think you're going to get it out of her. 904 00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:14,040 Speaker 2: I think he's ready to go. 905 00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:18,000 Speaker 1: He's he's looking for his orange. 906 00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:22,680 Speaker 2: Well, they always do these oranges. 907 00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:25,160 Speaker 1: These oranges. Well, thanks you guys for tuning in to 908 00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:28,440 Speaker 1: another episode of Diamonds in the Rough with myself, Teddy Mellencamp. 909 00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:32,040 Speaker 2: I'm Erica Jane, and I am confused about this episode. 910 00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:34,040 Speaker 2: I mean, I like it, but I don't know. I mean, 911 00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:35,799 Speaker 2: we're just gonna, guys, we're just gonna have to see 912 00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:37,040 Speaker 2: what happens in episode two. 913 00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:39,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna have to dig into some more things 914 00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:40,560 Speaker 1: and get some more information. 915 00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:44,719 Speaker 2: If you have any reasons as to why you I 916 00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:46,960 Speaker 2: can't believe, I'm gonna put this out there. If you 917 00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:49,000 Speaker 2: have any comments as to why you think these things 918 00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:51,920 Speaker 2: are happening. Is it the couch scene? You know what 919 00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,640 Speaker 2: I'm calling the couch scene? Is it other stuff? Give 920 00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:57,640 Speaker 2: us your conspiracy theories, in the comments I'm curious. 921 00:47:57,760 --> 00:47:58,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, we need to know. 922 00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,399 Speaker 2: We need to know. Thank you two.