1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:00,720 Speaker 1: Hi. 2 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 2: I am Rashan McDonald, a host the weekly Money Making 3 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 2: Conversation Masterclass show. The interviews and information that this show 4 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 2: provides are for everyone. It's time to stop reading other 5 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 2: people's success stories and start living your own. If you 6 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 2: want to be a guest on my show, please visit 7 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 2: our website, Moneymaking Conversations dot com and click the be 8 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 2: a Guest button. Priss submit and information will come directly 9 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 2: to me. Now let's get this show started. My guess 10 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 2: is the research and development dermatologist for over twenty five years. 11 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 2: She's a pioneer of hair and skin supplements. Doctor Mack 12 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 2: launched that's her name. It's called We'll get you a 13 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:41,160 Speaker 2: full official name, but doctor Mac launch Bellinutrie for women 14 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 2: in two thousand and four and Bellinutree for men in 15 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 2: two thousand and eight. 16 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: I just happened to be. 17 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:48,879 Speaker 2: A part of those both launches when I was managing 18 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 2: and executive using the Steve Harvey Morning Show. Doctor Mack 19 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 2: was medical director of Hype Hair magazine. 20 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 1: For over twenty years. 21 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 2: She continues to freely answer questions and under Harmonica asked 22 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 2: doctor Matt Platform please welco with the Money Making Conversations Masterclass, 23 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 2: doctor Melanie Macklin, How are you doing, doctor mack. 24 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:12,119 Speaker 3: Hey, mister Rashawn were back again two years later. 25 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 2: Well, you know, I was just every two years it's 26 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 2: something controversial in the hair industry or the skin industry, 27 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 2: and I got a call on you to get a 28 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 2: better understanding from my audience. And before we even get 29 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 2: to the question, let me give everybody a little background. 30 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 2: Why is Rashaan concerned about women and women hair? Well, 31 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 2: I grew up with six sisters, okay, five older sisters, 32 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 2: one younger sister, then I excuse me, two younger sisters, 33 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 2: four older sisters. 34 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: I was in the middle. 35 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 2: Nine kids, okay for older sisters, two younger sisters, and 36 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 2: I have a single daughter. And so when it comes 37 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 2: to haircare, there's a concern of mine because of the 38 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 2: fact that when we were on the show two years ago, 39 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 2: we were talking. 40 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: About FDA banning. 41 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 2: Excuse these chemicals that are used as straight particularly African 42 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 2: American women. Have talk to me about that before we 43 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 2: get into what's happening now. When we first brought this, 44 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 2: introduced this whole FDA thing two years ago. 45 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:14,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, so the FBA back in it was around October 46 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 4: of twenty twenty three is when they were discussing the 47 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:21,079 Speaker 4: fact of saying, look, we're trying to get a ban 48 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 4: on some of these hair chemicals because we are now 49 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 4: realizing even though we realize it a long before time, 50 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 4: but they just kind of stepped in and said, look, 51 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 4: we need to ban these chemicals because it's adversly affecting 52 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 4: the health effects of many women. 53 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 3: And so still to this day that ban has not occurred. 54 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 4: We're still moving forward with chemicals that manufacturers are being 55 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 4: allowed to add two products continuously, and we're continuously having 56 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:56,079 Speaker 4: women that are going to the next generation of life 57 00:02:56,760 --> 00:03:00,679 Speaker 4: as a result, right, the cant and so forth. 58 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, cancers, And that's what we're saying. And we talk 59 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 2: about this now. We know it's a money making conversation. 60 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 2: That's why they're continually to do these days. But two 61 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 2: years though, doctor Mack, we brought this conversation up two 62 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:15,959 Speaker 2: years ago, were back into no December, so it's a 63 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 2: little bit over two years we had this conversation. 64 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 1: I thought that would be action. 65 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 2: I was I was beating the drama in the African 66 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:27,359 Speaker 2: American community. It does affect every community, not just African American, 67 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 2: but in this situation. We are talking about African American 68 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 2: community because as a dominant part of my listener and 69 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 2: viewing audience. But it does impact anybody who does chemical 70 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 2: hair treatments. 71 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: Correct, Yeah, correct. 72 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 4: Because because there's all races and nationalities that use chemicals, 73 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 4: the other you know, non black races tend to be 74 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 4: more focused on the hair dyes, and it's the permanent 75 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 4: hair dise that actually is a major problem. That is 76 00:03:56,280 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 4: what's causing a lot of the new cases of breast cancer, 77 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 4: uterine cancer, ovarian cancer. 78 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 5: Uh. 79 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 3: And and asking Americas, it seems to be we have 80 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 3: a more than. 81 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 4: For increased risk of of these type of cancers when 82 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 4: we use permanent hair dyes. 83 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:19,599 Speaker 3: But also we're compounding that with using. 84 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:22,280 Speaker 4: Hair relaxers, right, so we are you know, we're doing 85 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 4: a double dip. 86 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 2: If you will, absolutely talking to doctor Melinia Macklin. 87 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 1: She is a licensed doctor. Uh. 88 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 2: And she didn't she's always constantly. 89 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 1: She's a university. Got to put that out there. And 90 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 1: your daughters. 91 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 4: My daughters, yes, one graduated in twenty twenty four from 92 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 4: Howard and the other one is a junior at Howard 93 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 4: Rocking the Yard like her mama did rocking and good. 94 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 3: Medicine. 95 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 2: So you know, I always like to bring up our background. 96 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 2: He started on Steve hard Morning Show. It brought it 97 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 2: started on the Chris Rock film that he did several 98 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 2: years ago, and it created a relationship between you and 99 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 2: I will always we care about not only our relationship, 100 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 2: but we care about the community. Now, when we start 101 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 2: talking about harsh health effects from hair chemicals, what exactly 102 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:13,720 Speaker 2: are we talking about, doctor bac Well, When we. 103 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:17,279 Speaker 4: Talk about the hair chemicals, let you know there's different sectors. 104 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 3: We have the hair relaxers, which. 105 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 4: Have sodium hydroxide, calcium hydroxide, glinine hydroxide, and lithium hydroxide. 106 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 4: So the common denominator is the hydroxide chemical in hair relaxes. 107 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 4: That no matter if it's done professionally or picking up 108 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 4: at your local beauty supply store, you're still adversely being affected. 109 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 4: So then let's transition over to the hair dyes. The 110 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 4: hair dyes have the pair phenol ethamine, and that's a 111 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 4: harsh chemical that's in the permanent and semi permanent hair dyes. 112 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:57,600 Speaker 4: The permanent ones have a little bit higher content which 113 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 4: make them more damaging. Then let's talk about synthetic hair. 114 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 4: That's been the latest hot vible topic. Everybody's like, oh, 115 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 4: how could hair synthetic hair be a problem. 116 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 3: Well, I'll tell you why. 117 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 4: It's an occupational hazard not only for the person that's 118 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 4: getting their hair braided, but also from the hair stylist 119 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 4: that is putting the synthetic hair while she's braiding the hair, 120 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 4: because the benzing chemical is being inhaled. So while the 121 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 4: hair stylust is braiding the hair, they're inhaling the benzine 122 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 4: from the synthetic hair. But then a person that actually 123 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 4: has the braided hair with the synthetic hair that contains 124 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 4: benzine is breathing that end as long as that synthetic 125 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 4: hair is on her head. So we're talking lung cancer, 126 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 4: We're talking leukemia, you know, like a blood cancer disorder. 127 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:58,280 Speaker 4: These are serious things. But I think for Sean, you know, 128 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 4: hair is such a big thing. Are so into wanting 129 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:08,919 Speaker 4: to have a certain look, right, versus wanting to be healthy, right. 130 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 1: But I think that I think that people don't even know. 131 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 2: That's why I have you on the show again, Doctor Max, 132 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 2: because I don't think they know. I think that you 133 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 2: go into a beauty salon, they don't have warning signs 134 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 2: in these beauty salons. 135 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 1: They're not required to have warning that's a great. 136 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 4: Rashawon we need to have a doctor Maax and Rashawn's 137 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 4: warning signs distributed throughout all hair salons. 138 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 2: But they won't do that because it will it will 139 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 2: of course raise questions and also impact their business. And 140 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 2: so we know that's the situation where we're at right now. 141 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 2: That's why I thought two years ago we will be 142 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 2: coming back on the show talking about the new guidelines, 143 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 2: talking about the warning size that anybody who applies this 144 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 2: to anybody's hair will have. These have to give these 145 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 2: people sign releases that they're acknowledging things like that, because 146 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 2: what I have not heard is, you know, because when 147 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 2: you when you talk like this, doctor Mack, you know 148 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 2: you lived in the Washington, DC area. Every influence is 149 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 2: their resistance. 150 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 5: When you talk like this, I hate to say yes, 151 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 5: but I have to say yes, okay. 152 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 4: Because at the end of the day, people are about 153 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 4: the green eyed devil all money, and if it's going 154 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 4: to disrupt someone's business, they're like, look, we won't talk 155 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 4: about it. Look at the tobacco industry for years, they 156 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 4: didn't want to talk about what the negative effects of 157 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 4: nicotine was doing to people's bodies. 158 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 3: They kept selling nicotine, yes or yes, we're. 159 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 4: Not talking about what the negative effects of alcohol is 160 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 4: doing to people's bodies. They're still selling it on almost 161 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 4: every corner in DC and every other major city. So 162 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 4: these some there has been a lot of resistance on 163 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 4: talking about it from a governmental level or a business level. 164 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 4: But also I have to say this, from even someone's 165 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 4: own personal level. 166 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:16,959 Speaker 3: They don't want to admit. 167 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 4: That that hair chemical from the relaxer or the hair 168 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 4: dye because they're trying to cover up those grades, or 169 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 4: the synthetic braids because they want to have long grades. 170 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 4: They're not wanting to accept that that's a health problem. 171 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 4: They rather wait until something bad happens, and I'm gonna 172 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 4: say this, then they want. 173 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 3: You to feel sorry for them, right, And. 174 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 4: That's why there's a lot of there's a lot of 175 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 4: global lawsuits is going on. 176 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:50,679 Speaker 3: I was asked to be an expert. 177 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 4: For a lot of these law suits is going on, 178 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 4: But in my heart, I can't you know. 179 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:56,959 Speaker 3: What I mean. 180 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 4: I just I have been trying for overt twenty years 181 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 4: letting folks know that the potential health risk associated with 182 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 4: hair relaxers, hair dyes, this, that and the other, and 183 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 4: folks just are resistant. I feel like I'm caring more 184 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 4: about someone's health than they're caring about their own. 185 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 1: What do I do? 186 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 2: Let me get some clarity. And you said the word 187 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 2: I just can't. When you said I just can't. What 188 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 2: were you referencing when you say I just can't, doctor mac. 189 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 4: Well, I can't speak on trying to help save someone. 190 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:37,599 Speaker 3: Twenty years later, I had been preaching. 191 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 4: You know, there's some certain cases I've been preaching on 192 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 4: to this person, hey, stop using this, stop using this. 193 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:48,560 Speaker 4: And then now sadly they're in fourth stage breast. 194 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 3: Cancer or they may not be living anymore, and. 195 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 4: My heart has been there to try to help to 196 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:58,319 Speaker 4: preserve their life. 197 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 1: Right, So I can't be a. 198 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 3: Savior of ball. And I can't sit up and be. 199 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 4: On definitely be on some legal stand and someone's questioning 200 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 4: me about my knowledge base, and I know my knowledge 201 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 4: base and so forth, but I can't help to defend 202 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 4: someone to try to get them some payments. 203 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 3: And you know they weren't trying to listen. 204 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 1: Historically, right, right? 205 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 2: And I understand that when because when you talk about 206 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 2: the two steps here. Yeah, the adults who will get 207 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 2: these hair relaxes, they can say yes and no, but 208 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 2: they're doing this to their children. Let's talk about that, 209 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 2: because you're talking about kids and the young girls as 210 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 2: young as five years old who will get their hair 211 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 2: relaxed using these same dangerous chemicals. Now, if you're starting 212 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:55,839 Speaker 2: at five, where your hair and your scalps are, I 213 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 2: would like to believe the most vulnerable to this type 214 00:11:59,000 --> 00:11:59,680 Speaker 2: of chemical. 215 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: What do you say about that? 216 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 4: Well, you know, I'm glad that you brought that up 217 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 4: because that is the premise behind. 218 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 3: The Chris Rock movie. 219 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 4: Chris Rock did the movie Good Hair that came out 220 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 4: in October of two thousand and nine. He heard me 221 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 4: on your show for the Steve Harvey Morning Show speak 222 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 4: on keeping the chemicals off of. 223 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:27,319 Speaker 3: Little girl's hair because that was to his premise. 224 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 4: He told his wife, do not put any chemicals in 225 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 4: our daughter's hair. And he said, I was the first 226 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 4: person that he heard, and he had interviewed tons of 227 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 4: dermatoldis prior to me, and they never said what I said, 228 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 4: which was we're going to keep chemicals off of little 229 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 4: girl's hair wild because if the chemicals that are being 230 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 4: applied to the scalp. They're burning through the scalp, which 231 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 4: means you're the nerves which run neck connect with the 232 00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 4: arteries and veins. It's getting in the bloodstream and is 233 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 4: causing hormone disruption. So baby girls are ending up with 234 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 4: early menzies and puberty before the age of ten. 235 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 3: They're ending up having uterine fibroids. 236 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 4: As they grow older, they're ending up with infertility and 237 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 4: then the potential risk of having an early hysterectomy before 238 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 4: they're even forty. And then now we're adding on the 239 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 4: breast cancer because we're forty five percent increased risk of 240 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 4: getting breast cancer at an aggressive at an aggressive state. 241 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 4: So we're seeing women in their twenties. Rashaan black women. 242 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:42,839 Speaker 4: I had two friends, two were my line sisters when 243 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 4: I pledged at Howard in the spring of eighty eight. 244 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 3: Went on to be with the Lord of breast cancer. 245 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 3: And I know for a fact they both. 246 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 4: Fried and dye that hair all the time, because that's 247 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 4: what we did back in the eighties. 248 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 3: But we're still doing it now. 249 00:13:58,400 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 1: Well, these don't go anywhere. 250 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 6: We're right back with more money making conversations, Master class, 251 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 6: Welcome back to money making Conversation master Class hosted by 252 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 6: me Rashaun McDonald. 253 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:14,679 Speaker 1: Let's get back into it. 254 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:17,679 Speaker 2: Well, let me to ask you because you mentioned what 255 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 2: is the mechanism of how hair chemicals affect the body? 256 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 2: Because you mentioned, I'm trying to get understanding that. You know, 257 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 2: is it the fact that they're putting it on their 258 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 2: hair or is it the fact that tell us how 259 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 2: the process works? 260 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: I guess I should ask you. 261 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 4: Okay, Right, So when chemicals are applied to the scalp, 262 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 4: they're actually absorbing into the scalp because that chemicals burning 263 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 4: through the scalp is a very thick layer of skin, right, 264 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 4: So the chemicals are absorbing into the scalp. That's why 265 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 4: you feel a burning sensation and the nerves run neck, 266 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 4: connect with the arteries and veins as I mentioned, and 267 00:14:55,640 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 4: it's it's causing the hormone disruption, hor own disruption. Chemicals 268 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 4: that are getting into the main bloodstream. 269 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 3: So then now we're. 270 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 4: Affecting the estrogen and the body and the woman's body, 271 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 4: which is leading to all of the issues. 272 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 3: So that's that's the reason why the topical. 273 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 4: Hair chemicals are causing problems because they're absorbing into that 274 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 4: thick scalp. And and so this is why I, you know, 275 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 4: advise if you are going to. 276 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 3: Get chemicals, I say you shouldn't get chemicals, but if 277 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 3: you do, we need to protect that scalp rashan. 278 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 4: We need to use like a petroleum jelly of something 279 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 4: like that nature that protects the scalp to keep those 280 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 4: chemicals from absorbing. And that's the that's the main take 281 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 4: home point to folks that still want to do chemicals 282 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 4: is protect the entire scalp, not just the the uh, 283 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 4: the edges, which is what a lot of manufacturers have 284 00:15:56,200 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 4: been saying that have over the counter home hair relaxers. 285 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 3: You know, they're saying, look. 286 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 4: Just put the base around the edges on the ears 287 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 4: and around the front forehead, but they never emphasized to 288 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 4: put it throughout the scalp. 289 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 3: Right, Historically, when you got relaxes. 290 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 4: From like your hair dresser, which was the sodium hydroxide 291 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 4: relaxeres called lie relaxer, Okay, they were basing the entire scalp. 292 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 3: It was actually. 293 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 4: Safer than the over the counter version because over the 294 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 4: counter version was saying, oh, our calcium hydroxide or lithium 295 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 4: hydroxide or guannie hydroxide. Over the counter products are safer, 296 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 4: so you only have to base the edges, so Raseean, 297 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 4: that's where all of the problems started, because if you're 298 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 4: not basing the entire scalp, you're in trouble because you're 299 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 4: still having to wash this product out, which means it's 300 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 4: still getting an absorbing through the scalp even during the 301 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 4: washout process. 302 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:07,119 Speaker 2: Well, let's talk about a young child now. Now I 303 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 2: want you to you kind of walk me through the 304 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:15,640 Speaker 2: general process. Okay, a young child being brought into a salon. 305 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 2: How long does the chemical stay on a young child's head? 306 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:24,919 Speaker 2: And how often do you through these processes? Are they 307 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 2: once a month, twice a month, or four times a 308 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 2: year when you're getting these lie type relaxers on your head. 309 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:35,880 Speaker 2: I'm talking to doctor Mack, who's providing me with this information. 310 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. 311 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:40,120 Speaker 4: Well, I would first want to say, hopefully a mother 312 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 4: doesn't take her child to get a respect I'm going 313 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 4: to say that from a protective standpoint. 314 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:46,919 Speaker 1: However, it does happen though. 315 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 3: But it does happen. 316 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 4: So if she chooses to take her young daughter to 317 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 4: a hairstylist, she wants to make sure more importantly that 318 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 4: her child's head is completely coated with like a pet, 319 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:05,120 Speaker 4: you know, trolling jelly, a protective coating, and I wouldn't 320 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:07,880 Speaker 4: I would not suggest that that relax would be left 321 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 4: on that child's hair. No more than five or ten minutes. 322 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 4: Heat can straight hair a shot. We don't need that 323 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 4: hair to get so straight that we're causing adverse health 324 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 4: effects in our child. But also we're causing her to 325 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 4: lose a whole bunch of hair as well, because when 326 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 4: that hair is too. 327 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:29,679 Speaker 3: Straight, it becomes very brittle. 328 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 4: There's a lot of hair shedding, and then the child 329 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 4: starts to have a lot of hair loss. So you know, 330 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 4: if they're going to still go to the salon for 331 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 4: their daughter, I would say no more than ten minutes 332 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:46,440 Speaker 4: application time, and I would definitely say no more than 333 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 4: you know, every eight to ten weeks if that. 334 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:53,680 Speaker 3: The more they can space it out, the better cool. 335 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 2: I'm talking to from Sean McDonald interviewing doctor Mack. She's 336 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 2: based in the DC area. She's several projects products, bella 337 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 2: neutral for women that happened in two thousand and four 338 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 2: and bela neutral for men in two thousand and eight. 339 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:11,479 Speaker 2: We're going to get back to the hair process but 340 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 2: I will be remiss not bringing up the Bella Neutral 341 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 2: projects and where it can be found. Tell us about 342 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 2: the Bella Neutral products B. 343 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 1: E, L l A, n U t R. I floor 344 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 1: is yours, doctor Mack. 345 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:29,639 Speaker 4: Yes, Bellaedutri is my first baby. Let me tell you 346 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 4: how that all started. Because I'm the US pioneer dermatologists 347 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 4: of natural hair supplements, I brought that whole concept of 348 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 4: internal natural nutrition in the form of a supplement concept 349 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 4: into the US. 350 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 3: Did I get a lot of pushback? Yeah, they were like, oh, 351 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 3: you're a witch doctor. What are you talking about? 352 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 4: You have to take something by mouth in order to 353 00:19:54,040 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 4: improve your hair. Well, FYI, hair and skin are internal organs. 354 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 4: They just manifest externally. 355 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:06,640 Speaker 3: So however your hair. 356 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 4: And skin looks is a real manifestation of what's going 357 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 4: on inside. That's why as dermatologists we're experts of hair, skin, 358 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 4: and nails. All of those are internal structures. So when 359 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 4: we look at externally at a hair, skin, and nail, 360 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:23,679 Speaker 4: we can tell what's going on on the inside of 361 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:24,159 Speaker 4: the body. 362 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 3: So you know, I did a lot of research. 363 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:32,919 Speaker 4: Specifically with a company in Finland called Viviscal. 364 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:36,439 Speaker 3: Some of you may or may not have heard of that. 365 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 4: It was because of me, because I helped to brand 366 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:44,639 Speaker 4: that product from Finland into the US. I advanced that 367 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:48,400 Speaker 4: formula so that it could work even better, and that 368 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 4: hence became Bellinutree in two thousand and four, and we've 369 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 4: had millions of capsules sold. 370 00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:00,199 Speaker 3: It's people love it. We were very excited about that. 371 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:04,959 Speaker 4: And then I further advanced that formula to make it 372 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 4: even better for men, because men were coming to me like, 373 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 4: well you got something for us to do that of course, 374 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 4: and so in two thousand and eight came out with 375 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 4: Boulue Tree for men. 376 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 3: So I was called that witch doctor Reshawan. I broke 377 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 3: down the barriers. I was on all types of media. 378 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:23,159 Speaker 4: They were like, what are you talking about taking I said, listen, 379 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 4: I know what I'm talking about. And now you can't 380 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 4: turn the channel without saying a hairskin in their own 381 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 4: vitamin neuture fall. 382 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:34,159 Speaker 3: For women, nuture fall for men. I was like, listen, 383 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:34,680 Speaker 3: I'm the. 384 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 4: One to put that information in your ear over twenty. 385 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 3: Five years ago. 386 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:41,679 Speaker 2: Well, we putting it in everybody's ear right now. We 387 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 2: started two years ago about these hair chemicals. You know, 388 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:49,400 Speaker 2: I see a vicious money making cycle here let's talk 389 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 2: about because you have the weave industry, yeah, the bread 390 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 2: industry like you, and then you have the diet, the 391 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 2: lie or the hairstraighten the industry. So you bring a 392 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 2: child in right, or a young woman and then their hair, 393 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 2: like you said, can eventually get burnt out, correct if 394 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:12,719 Speaker 2: they continuously use this product. So then they turn around 395 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,639 Speaker 2: and then they got to buy hair extensions and the 396 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 2: hair waves as they call them, and these hair weves 397 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 2: this double impact. First the stylers is having the impact 398 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 2: with their hair chemicals, and now they're having a physical 399 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 2: impact with the weave extensions or hair extension. So their 400 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 2: health risks is always going to be twofold. But the 401 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 2: person who is now basically becoming a permanent customer because 402 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 2: God gave them natural hair, they go in their beauty 403 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,880 Speaker 2: salon burn it out through chemicals. They want to get 404 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:52,479 Speaker 2: that hair back, they buy hair extensions, and they have 405 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 2: to continually buy those hair extensions to maintain their look. 406 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 1: That they want. So why would they want that type. 407 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 2: Of the load of income ending when it's a three 408 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 2: hundred and sixty two hundred and sixty degree cycle, doctor 409 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 2: Mack Right, Yes, So for. 410 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 3: The business owner, they're making big money. But for the customer, 411 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 3: the client that's coming it's in that chair, they're having 412 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 3: big health problems. 413 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 4: But guess what, the big money business owner does not 414 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 4: care about the big health risk that the client has 415 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 4: sitting in their chair because they wanted to keep coming 416 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:32,199 Speaker 4: back and sit in their chair. And this was the 417 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 4: pushback that I got from lots of stylists and talking 418 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 4: about the harsh chemical effects of hair products because they 419 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 4: don't want that information to get out there because they 420 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 4: want people. 421 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 3: To keep coming back to their chair. But I'm saying, look, 422 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 3: you can. 423 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:54,679 Speaker 4: Establish a niche a bing a healthy hairstylist, You're going 424 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 4: to make even more money because now they're now that 425 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:02,399 Speaker 4: client is now knowing that you're concerned about not only 426 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 4: the help of their hair, but educating them so that 427 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 4: then they can also share that information with other family 428 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 4: members and friends and so forth. 429 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 3: So I feel like folks with losing money actually because. 430 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,400 Speaker 4: That you're waiting for someone to come back and sit 431 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 4: in your chair for for a hair practice and it's 432 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 4: an unhealthy hare practice. 433 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:23,920 Speaker 2: Well, there's two things. First of all, I want you 434 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 2: to give out the website for Bella Neutral. 435 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 3: Yes, you can. 436 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 4: Check out my products at www dot doctor Macklin dot com, 437 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 4: d R M A C L I N dot com. 438 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 4: I also have a new established website called Belaboproducts dot 439 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 4: com which is b E L l A b E 440 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 4: A U products dot com. So either one of those 441 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 4: websites had my products, you know, we're Shana had to 442 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 4: expand because folks are like, oh, we just want to 443 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:55,919 Speaker 4: see the products. So that's why this did a product 444 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 4: only site. 445 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. I knew that was happening because 446 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,439 Speaker 2: of the fact that the consistency and you know, people 447 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 2: online and people want stuff quick, you know, they want 448 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 2: app they're streaming out there. They want it quick, and 449 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:08,719 Speaker 2: they want to get there fast. 450 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,399 Speaker 4: We got it quick, and I have a wonderful webmaster 451 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 4: that has done a wonderful job, and. 452 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,400 Speaker 3: We're just advancing. You know, I'm. 453 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:21,119 Speaker 4: Excited that I can start doing a lot. You have 454 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 4: more hands on Rashan with all these things. As you know, 455 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 4: I've been dealing with a lot with my mom going on, 456 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,919 Speaker 4: having to handle all of her Chicago properties or whatever. 457 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 3: So yeah, so I'm moving on up. That's what we're 458 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 3: doing right. 459 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:37,400 Speaker 1: Now, Doctor MC. 460 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 2: You know, people can hear this interview. Can we send 461 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 2: them anywhere to not so much verify our conversation where 462 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 2: they can they just do or they can just simply 463 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,679 Speaker 2: just google and the information pops up. 464 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:54,160 Speaker 4: My Doctormaclin dot com website is very thorough. 465 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 3: They can look at all of my interviews. I even 466 00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 3: have the interview of you and. 467 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 4: I on there, a lot of recent press that's been 468 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:03,160 Speaker 4: out there. 469 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 3: It's a very comprehensive site. 470 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 4: That I'm very proud of, even on them with some 471 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 4: interviews that I did with Cherry Shepherd and Kim Whitley 472 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 4: for their Two Funny Mamas and some other press. So 473 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 4: I'm excited with the growth of where the doctor Macklin 474 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 4: brand is going. 475 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 3: Well. 476 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,919 Speaker 2: I first, before I closed, you did an interview, very 477 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:28,880 Speaker 2: serious interview with two funny ladies, Cherry Shepherd, talk show 478 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:33,360 Speaker 2: host on daily Monday through Friday, and the incredibly comedic 479 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 2: actor skills of Kim Whitley. What was their reaction when 480 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,360 Speaker 2: you start talking about these chemicals, because I'm pretty sure 481 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,439 Speaker 2: they've used chemicals on their hat. 482 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 3: Yeah. 483 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:46,200 Speaker 4: Well, you know, they have been really warm and fuzzy 484 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 4: with this subject matter and wanting to educate more women 485 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:53,199 Speaker 4: about this, I specifically. 486 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 3: Talked a lot about that. 487 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 4: Kim called me to do the post Oscar show, like 488 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 4: when the slap between the Chris. 489 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 3: And Will that went on. So that was on a. 490 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 4: Sunday evening, and so Kim and I talked that evening 491 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 4: and she was like, can you come on and do 492 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 4: the show on that Monday? 493 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 3: Which I did. And it was a great show. 494 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,399 Speaker 4: And that was a chance for me to talk about 495 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,160 Speaker 4: the hair loss that they were talking about, the alopecia 496 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 4: that was going on with Jada, but also it was 497 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,880 Speaker 4: a way for me to talk about what chemicals were 498 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:32,160 Speaker 4: doing to our hair. And so it was a wonderful show. 499 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 4: That was gosh, that would have been Rashaan March. I 500 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,680 Speaker 4: think March of twenty twenty two was. 501 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 3: It, Yeah, somewhere in that neighborhood. It was an excellent show. 502 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,920 Speaker 2: Absolutely, absolutely. I know a lot of articles reaching articles. 503 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 2: That's why you're on the show, because you've been getting 504 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:53,399 Speaker 2: recent press about the story maintaining your consistency. Your storylines 505 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 2: are consistent, your messaging is consistent, and the truth is 506 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 2: you won't stop. 507 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 3: I'm not right off Chainsack. There's an article coming out 508 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:05,159 Speaker 3: that I did with Web and b. 509 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,440 Speaker 4: They did an interview with me about a week and 510 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 4: a half or so ago, wanted me to speak on 511 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 4: hair dies. 512 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:15,160 Speaker 3: It was all about hair dyes. 513 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,479 Speaker 4: And I think that that's gonna be a great article 514 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 4: and so it should be posting to webbing be very soon. 515 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 1: Okay, cool, Well I'll. 516 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 4: Have I think maybe something coming up with like MSNBC 517 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 4: or CNN something of that nature. 518 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 2: Well, when it happens, she won't let me know, and 519 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 2: I will let everybody listening and watching know. You know, 520 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 2: she is a research and development dermatologist for over twenty 521 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 2: five years. 522 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen. 523 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 2: She came into my life when I was managed the 524 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 2: Steve Harvey Morning Show and she. 525 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 1: Has not left. 526 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 2: And that's a good thing because she allowed me to 527 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 2: have honest conversations about hair and skin supplements. Again, Bella 528 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 2: Neutra for women. Give out their website one more time 529 00:28:58,080 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 2: for women and men. Bella Neutral. 530 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 1: What's that site? 531 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 4: So it's doctor Macna dot com, d R N A 532 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 4: C l I N dot com or Belabo Products dot 533 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 4: com b e L l A b e A U 534 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 4: Products dot com. I help people along the way. 535 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 3: That's what's different about what. 536 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 4: I do versus these other imposter hair vitamin companies. Right, 537 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 4: you have a dermatologist that's the developer and that's actually 538 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 4: able to help via online, help. 539 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 3: Them with questions along the way. 540 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 4: That's why I've got tremendous success and people people love me, 541 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 4: and I'm happy and I'm blessed, and I'm. 542 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 2: Humble, very humble, I will tell you that, very humble. 543 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 2: And again, thank you for coming on Money Making Conversation 544 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 2: master last and thank you for allowing me to get. 545 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 1: You right after Thanksgiving. 546 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 6: This has been another edition of Money Making Conversations Masterclass 547 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 6: hosted by me Rashawn McDonald. 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