WEBVTT - Stacey Bendet Eisner on the Sun Valley Scene, Female CEOs and Her Tech Startup Creatively

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Strictly Business Varieties, weekly podcast featuring conversations with

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<v Speaker 1>industry leaders about the business of media and entertainment. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Cynthia Littleton, co editor in chief of Variety. Today I'm

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<v Speaker 1>recording this from the site of the annual summer camp

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<v Speaker 1>for business moguls, the Allen and Company Conference in Sun Valley, Idaho.

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<v Speaker 1>My guest today is Stacy Bendett Eisner. Stacy is a

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<v Speaker 1>star CEO in the fashion world as the force behind

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<v Speaker 1>the Alice and Olivia brand that has grown so rapidly

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<v Speaker 1>over the past two decades. As of last year, She's

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<v Speaker 1>also a tech entrepreneur as the founder of Creatively Professional

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<v Speaker 1>online network designed to help connect freelancers and creative industries

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<v Speaker 1>with employers and Stacy and her husband, Eric Eisner, have

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<v Speaker 1>been regulars at the Allen and Company gathering for years.

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<v Speaker 1>With her love of bold colors and prints, she cuts

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<v Speaker 1>quite a colorful figure here, but she also fits right

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<v Speaker 1>in with the group of prominent CEOs that includes her

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<v Speaker 1>father in law, former Walt Disney co chief Michael Eisner.

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<v Speaker 1>As the Titans of Industry gathered, Bendett Eisner took a

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<v Speaker 1>moment to sit down with me at Java on fourth

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<v Speaker 1>a coffee shop down the road from the conference, to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about the heavy environment and Sun Valley and her

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<v Speaker 1>ambitious business goals. It's all coming up right after this

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<v Speaker 1>break h Stacy Bendett Eisner, CEO and creative director of

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<v Speaker 1>the retail brand Alice and Olivia and also the founder

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<v Speaker 1>of Creatively, a very interesting new networking platform specifically for

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<v Speaker 1>people in the creative industries, which will talk a lot

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<v Speaker 1>about what's going on with Creatively in a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>But I wanted to start because we are in beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>ming downtown catch him, Idaho, right down the road from

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<v Speaker 1>the site of the Allen and Company Annual business Conference

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<v Speaker 1>for business moguls, tech titans, captains of industry and politics.

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<v Speaker 1>This is an annual event that brings a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>influential people together for retreat to talk about business, to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about heavy things going on in the world. And Stacy,

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<v Speaker 1>you have been attending this for a number of years.

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<v Speaker 1>What in your perspective is the value? What do you

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<v Speaker 1>see as the value of getting all of these minds

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<v Speaker 1>together in kind of close quarters, beautiful the Sawtooth Mountains setting.

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<v Speaker 1>What's what do you see? What is the kinetic energy?

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<v Speaker 1>That comes in that from this grouping. Well, I've actually

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<v Speaker 1>been coming here for fourteen years. My first year here,

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<v Speaker 1>I was pregnant with my daughter Eloi, which is so

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<v Speaker 1>crazy to think about right now, or thirteen years because

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<v Speaker 1>she's turning thirteen. And I think that you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>bring all of these moguls who work so hard, who

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<v Speaker 1>are so intense to gather in a setting that's all

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<v Speaker 1>about family. It's almost like adult camp, um, and it

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<v Speaker 1>kind of relaxes everyone. But it also brings all of

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<v Speaker 1>these amazing minds together. And I think just great ideas

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<v Speaker 1>sort of you know grow here. UM. I think when

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<v Speaker 1>you you know, you never know who you're gonna you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to run into, you never know who you're gonna meet, UM,

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<v Speaker 1>And you also end up having these really wonderful friendships

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<v Speaker 1>that have been created during this week here every single year.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's so many people that when I walk in,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just you know, it's like this warmth, like it

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<v Speaker 1>feels like family and you're so excited to see. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think that, um, it's sort of this very organic

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<v Speaker 1>way to network. UM. And I think so many sort

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<v Speaker 1>of partnerships and investments and you know, you hear about

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<v Speaker 1>the big deals being made here, like the time I,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, father in law made the deal between uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, ABC and ESPN and Disney and and you

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<v Speaker 1>hear things like that, But there are so many smaller

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<v Speaker 1>things that have been both in the world of philanthropy,

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<v Speaker 1>both in you know, just ideas like I remember one year,

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<v Speaker 1>like Mark Zuck met Corey Booker and decided to donate

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<v Speaker 1>a hundred million dollars to like schools in New York.

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<v Speaker 1>Like those kind of things really happen here. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's what's so beautiful about what the Island Company

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<v Speaker 1>has created. It's it's interesting because of course we're coming

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<v Speaker 1>off a year when in like like many other things,

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<v Speaker 1>the Island Company Conference couldn't happen, So you had a

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<v Speaker 1>year where you didn't have that mingling, that the random

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<v Speaker 1>factor of running into somebody around a corner in the

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful alpine village setting of the of the Sun Valley Lodge.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you did you feel the loss last year? Did you?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you? Did you miss it? When July July rolled around,

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<v Speaker 1>it's always the weekend after July four. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>think luster year was so disrupted, and there was something

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<v Speaker 1>I think for like the creative side of my brain

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<v Speaker 1>where I was kind of just happy working and like

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<v Speaker 1>not having any socialization for a little bit. I got

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<v Speaker 1>kind of used to that, and I think I was

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<v Speaker 1>just so focused between Alice and the Libyan creatively that

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't really thinking about the things I was missing

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<v Speaker 1>all year. I was thinking more of the things I

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<v Speaker 1>had to like fix and get done. Um. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>for anyone in the retail world, last year was disruptive

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<v Speaker 1>and really tough and you had to, you know, work

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<v Speaker 1>on every front to make it through. I sort of

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<v Speaker 1>feel like a fashion survivor this year. Um, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there was I think coming here this year, there's this

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<v Speaker 1>nostalgia and warmth and sort of excitement almost like it's

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<v Speaker 1>like back to camp or back to school, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the first day of school where you're just sort of

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<v Speaker 1>excited to kind of run into friends and socialize again. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, obviously deals were made last year, but um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I think that there are kind of special

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<v Speaker 1>deals that happened here. Well, they certainly have had. There's

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<v Speaker 1>been quite a legacy of of events and like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>those those random encounters. What's you have built Alison Olivia

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<v Speaker 1>is one of the biggest sort of organic retail of

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<v Speaker 1>fashion brands to come along and in a long time,

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<v Speaker 1>and you've expanded significantly in the last couple of years

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<v Speaker 1>your retail presence, you have a big e commerce business,

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<v Speaker 1>has has has the experience of being here with so

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<v Speaker 1>many CEOs and having some pretty well known CEOs in

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<v Speaker 1>your in your extended family. Has that been beneficial to

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<v Speaker 1>you as you grew this business. Yeah, I mean I

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<v Speaker 1>learned so much from people like my father in law,

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<v Speaker 1>like watching him work, watching what he does in business,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you're it's inspiring, and being here always kind of

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<v Speaker 1>inspires me. Like I'll come up with things that we

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<v Speaker 1>need to do for even a technology perspective. Sometimes at

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<v Speaker 1>Alis and Livia, I'll get ideas hearing from you know,

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<v Speaker 1>CEO is what they're doing. Um, it just makes your

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I think for me, like a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>the panels aren't about retail, but I'll get ideas. It

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<v Speaker 1>might be things that have to do with the video

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<v Speaker 1>or crypto or anything that just can apply to the

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<v Speaker 1>to the retail world. And Yeah, I've been really proud

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<v Speaker 1>of the growth at Alison Olivia and you know my team,

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<v Speaker 1>Um in the past, but this year was almost to

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<v Speaker 1>the point of tears, right because watching the way my

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<v Speaker 1>team came together and persevered and pivoted and pushed through

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<v Speaker 1>a really difficult period. Um was powerful? Was it just

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<v Speaker 1>was it? Did you have just a downturn, just a

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<v Speaker 1>massive downturn as lockdown hit in you know, there was

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<v Speaker 1>no traffic. I mean I have over forty retail stores,

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<v Speaker 1>I selling of like eight other points of sales. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we have a strong e commerce business. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we also have clothes that we make for women, where

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<v Speaker 1>we make clothes for women when they travel, when they

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<v Speaker 1>go to work, when they're getting married, when they're you know,

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<v Speaker 1>going on a date. Like every single uh you know,

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<v Speaker 1>end use of our clothing was disrupted. Um and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>so we had to pivot to making a lot more

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<v Speaker 1>casual clothing up until obviously, but um so it was

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<v Speaker 1>it was the entire year was just disrupted on all fronts.

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<v Speaker 1>Plus you know, we had stores that just couldn't even

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<v Speaker 1>be open for a big portion of the year. M

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<v Speaker 1>As a lot of people have said that the pandemic

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<v Speaker 1>period tested every part of the organization. What did you

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<v Speaker 1>learn about the business of ours Olivia going through this. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think when you're going through really tough periods like that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, what it does is it's kind it shines

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<v Speaker 1>a flashlight on every weakness, right. It doesn't really your

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<v Speaker 1>strengths at that point don't matter as much as your

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<v Speaker 1>weaknesses do. And you know, as a business leader, founder,

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<v Speaker 1>creative director, we had to kind of really look at

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<v Speaker 1>those and figure how to fix them at a time

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<v Speaker 1>when it wasn't easy to fix things right like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you're you know, and we and our whole company had

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<v Speaker 1>to be virtual. But what I was most proud of

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<v Speaker 1>was that through really trying times, we made some really

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<v Speaker 1>positive changes that needed to happen. I think in the

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<v Speaker 1>business overall, you know, we closed our sample room and

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<v Speaker 1>took all the costs out of you know, the business

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<v Speaker 1>that were you know that we're applicable there, and we

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<v Speaker 1>moved all of our development and design overseas and those

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<v Speaker 1>were big changes but had to be made. We had

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<v Speaker 1>no choice, you know, our fittings had to be virtual,

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<v Speaker 1>our pattlenmaking had to be overseas um so it it

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<v Speaker 1>forced change. But I think that looking back, I just

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<v Speaker 1>have so much pride and how each one of my

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<v Speaker 1>teams handled what they had to do to pivot to

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<v Speaker 1>make it through. Um, and we made some beautiful clothes

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<v Speaker 1>during that period somehow too. Do you have a sense

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<v Speaker 1>as you as you design clothes for the future, do

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<v Speaker 1>you have a sense that there has been a significant

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<v Speaker 1>kind of cultural shift in what people are looking for.

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<v Speaker 1>Are they looking for more casual clothes after fifteen months

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<v Speaker 1>in swept pants? No, I mean I think right now,

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<v Speaker 1>we've just seen this explosion and like women wanting to

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<v Speaker 1>shop and wear dresses and dress up again. And yes, right,

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<v Speaker 1>like I mean I'm casual one today I was trying

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<v Speaker 1>to be all someome that like jeans. But no, we've

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<v Speaker 1>just seen like a you know, like a huge demand

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<v Speaker 1>beyond what we expected for clothes to dress up. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think people are having weddings and having parties and

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<v Speaker 1>having special events and there's like a big demand. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I think going forward what will probably change. And again,

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<v Speaker 1>as a woman who has taken a lot of pride

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<v Speaker 1>and having a company filled with women who have you know,

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<v Speaker 1>had babies and still worked, I think there will be

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<v Speaker 1>more flexibility in the workplace to accommodate people where they work,

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<v Speaker 1>Like are they remote, are they in an office if

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<v Speaker 1>you're a writer, like, do you have to be there

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<v Speaker 1>every day? If you're a designer, do you know, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>being a little bit more flexible to accommodate people's needs.

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<v Speaker 1>Um And for me, like I've had designers who have

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<v Speaker 1>worked remotely for years. I've had a designer who's working

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<v Speaker 1>down in South America, another one in Paris, and um,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that like we're I hope that what this

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<v Speaker 1>virtual world that was created during allows us to do

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<v Speaker 1>is accommodate um, you know, opportunities for women in a

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<v Speaker 1>way that they're allowed to balance their lives a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more so. I mean definitely one of the learnings

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<v Speaker 1>coming out of this has been, you know what really

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<v Speaker 1>matters to answer how that yeah, and to answer how

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<v Speaker 1>that effects dressing? Like I think that when people are

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<v Speaker 1>working from home, um, you know, they kind of want

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<v Speaker 1>to do that like blazer and casual pant look you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like I noticed that we're selling right now all these

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<v Speaker 1>like wide leg pants but they have like kind of

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<v Speaker 1>elastic easy waste bands. You know. So it's like people

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<v Speaker 1>want to be They're used to be uncomfortable, but they

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<v Speaker 1>want to dress up again. I do think it's time

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<v Speaker 1>to burn the sweatpants. Though for all the ladies listening

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<v Speaker 1>to this, it's just say goodbye. Generation ago was burning bras.

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<v Speaker 1>Now now it's definitely the sweatpants. What um, What Alison

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<v Speaker 1>Olivia started with your search for the perfect pair of pants?

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<v Speaker 1>You've told that story many times. What as you as

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<v Speaker 1>you kind of gradually built built this brand. What in

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<v Speaker 1>the early days? What what was the important catalyst? What?

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<v Speaker 1>What put Alison Olivia over the top and allowed you

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<v Speaker 1>to open so many boutiques and have retail relationships. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that our brand was always about kind of democratizing

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<v Speaker 1>fashion a little bit for women, right. Our brand was

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<v Speaker 1>about not like one whole look. It was about items

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<v Speaker 1>and it still is that allow women to express their

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<v Speaker 1>own self. And I always think about fashion as each

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<v Speaker 1>woman's art each day. It's how you express yourself. It's

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<v Speaker 1>how you show to the world you are by what

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's your it's your startorial art. Um And

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<v Speaker 1>when I started, you know, I didn't start saying, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to build a global empire and I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>build full collections. I literally started because I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to make really cool pants. And at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>if you want a little fashion history, you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>had like the denim world, like the Earls and sevens

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<v Speaker 1>of the world, and then you had like designer, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you had like real street, you know, like kind

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<v Speaker 1>of more like H and M E kind of stuff

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<v Speaker 1>or Zora or whatever. You didn't have contemporary and theory

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<v Speaker 1>really kicked off what is now known as the contemporary

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<v Speaker 1>world of fashion, which is where you find fashion and

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<v Speaker 1>you find you know, the designer made clothing but at

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<v Speaker 1>a price point that's not like a ten dollar gown, um.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I think where we came in at that time, unknowingly,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, was sort of that we were entering that

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<v Speaker 1>itemized contemporary market. And in the beginning, contemporary was like

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<v Speaker 1>kind of theory pants and suits James first t shirts

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<v Speaker 1>and jeans, and we came in and started making dresses

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<v Speaker 1>and beautiful blouses and things that were fancy to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of pair back to all those items that the big

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<v Speaker 1>guys were making. And from that we really grew. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I still think of the sensibility of Alice

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<v Speaker 1>and Olivia the same way as making these beautiful items

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<v Speaker 1>that every woman who tries it on can wear in

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<v Speaker 1>her own way. You know, so you might wear a

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<v Speaker 1>dress with a pair of heels, and another girl's putting

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<v Speaker 1>it on with a pair of sneakers. Um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>my mom might wear our blazer back to her skinny jeans,

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<v Speaker 1>and I might wear the blazer back to a ball

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<v Speaker 1>down skirt. You know. And we've managed to sort of, hope,

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<v Speaker 1>create clothes that allow women to express themselves with color,

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<v Speaker 1>with print, and you know, their own and to really

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<v Speaker 1>like sort of bring out their personality. I mean, that's

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<v Speaker 1>what that's what I love doing. I so love your

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<v Speaker 1>use of bold color in and of itself makes a

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<v Speaker 1>makes a bold statement for sure. Um, let's talk about creatively.

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<v Speaker 1>You took the leap and launched a kind of social network,

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<v Speaker 1>professional networking service for people in the creative community, and

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<v Speaker 1>you launched it during the in the teeth of the pandemic.

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<v Speaker 1>What what was it about that time that made you

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<v Speaker 1>feel like it was the right time to unveil creatively?

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<v Speaker 1>So I felt that over the last several years when

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<v Speaker 1>I was hiring people at Alison Olivia, it was really

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<v Speaker 1>difficult to hire creative people. And the only way you

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<v Speaker 1>really you know, looked at resumes or found people was

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<v Speaker 1>on LinkedIn. And I'm like a most creative people aren't

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<v Speaker 1>on LinkedIn and be LinkedIn is an amazing tool if

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<v Speaker 1>you're hiring like a salesperson or an accountant, but when

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<v Speaker 1>you're hiring a creative person, you need to see their world.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel weird going and like stalking someone's Instagram looking

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<v Speaker 1>at their kids when I'm like trying to interview them.

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<v Speaker 1>But you need to see their visual world, right, So

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<v Speaker 1>you get a white piece of resume for someone who's

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<v Speaker 1>making things in three D for you, and it just

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't equate. And you know you can interview them or whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know you'd have to have three hours of

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they having them to projects, having put together

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<v Speaker 1>a portfolio. And I just kind of one day said,

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<v Speaker 1>there needs to be this professional network and job platform

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<v Speaker 1>that is built for the creative world that is a

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<v Speaker 1>portfolio driven tool that allows creatives to share their work

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<v Speaker 1>in the most powerful way. And I like to describe

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<v Speaker 1>it as almost the most beautiful free art gallery for

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<v Speaker 1>the creative, which is basically a way to facilitate creative

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<v Speaker 1>showing their work. Um and it is not a place

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<v Speaker 1>for creatives to share pictures, pictures of their children or

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<v Speaker 1>what cocktail they're having or you know their political stance

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<v Speaker 1>on you know, A B and C. It is truly

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<v Speaker 1>just a safe place for creatives to share their works,

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<v Speaker 1>show their work, collaborate on their work, and to find work.

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<v Speaker 1>So it is a job platform, it is a UM

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it is a professional network. And what's been

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<v Speaker 1>really exciting is, you know, the response we've had from

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<v Speaker 1>creatives that are so excited to have this tool, but

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<v Speaker 1>also from brands who are now using it. We have

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<v Speaker 1>over a thousand brands and come to is using the

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<v Speaker 1>platform not just in fashion and all industries to find

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<v Speaker 1>creative talent and higher creative talent. We'll take a break

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<v Speaker 1>here and be back with more from Alice and Olivia

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<v Speaker 1>and Creatively founder Stacy Benditt Eisner tell me what's the

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<v Speaker 1>business model behind We charge companies. We don't charge of

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<v Speaker 1>the creative. The platform is totally free for creatives. We

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<v Speaker 1>charge companies UM that we have different service levels where

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<v Speaker 1>companies can use to UM. They can actually use Creatively

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<v Speaker 1>to set up projects so they can hire there. They're

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<v Speaker 1>going to be able to hire creatives directly, but they

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<v Speaker 1>can also post jobs UM just like they would on

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<v Speaker 1>something like a LinkedIn or another professional network, so that's

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<v Speaker 1>our Our model is similar to that, but we do

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<v Speaker 1>not charge the creative. We only charge brands to use

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<v Speaker 1>creatively um to to hire a you know, mobile global

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<v Speaker 1>creative workforce, freelance and full time. That's the other difference.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like there wasn't really a we. We kind of

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<v Speaker 1>filled this niche for creatives where we have a job.

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<v Speaker 1>Most people don't post a job like listening for something freelance,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just for full time. Whereas I'm creatively companies are

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<v Speaker 1>encouraged to post both we're going to need somebody for

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<v Speaker 1>six months on this specific for days here in Mexico.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you have a specialty on this kind of graphics,

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<v Speaker 1>so much the better. You can search by location, you

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<v Speaker 1>can search by category. How have you gotten this company

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<v Speaker 1>on its feet? Have you funded it yourself? Did you

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<v Speaker 1>go raise money? So in the beginning, I funded it myself,

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<v Speaker 1>UM with my partner whose name is Reagan silver Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And then since then we've done a little bit of fundraising.

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<v Speaker 1>UM My father in law as an investor, Sherry Redstone's

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<v Speaker 1>company as an investor. We have Lion Try as an investor.

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<v Speaker 1>So we've we've got some great minds and you know

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<v Speaker 1>advisors behind us UM and you know, we we just

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<v Speaker 1>started building it about two years ago and then we

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<v Speaker 1>launched it a little bit earlier than expected. But last

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<v Speaker 1>you know May, in the midst of the pandemic, all

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<v Speaker 1>these students were graduating from schools. They didn't have jobs,

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't have a weight and network UM. And so

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<v Speaker 1>upon meeting with some of the schools, specifically through the

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<v Speaker 1>CFTA in the fashion industry, UM, we just launched it

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit earlier than we thought. But we're able

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<v Speaker 1>to allow all these students to put their portfolios places

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<v Speaker 1>and apply for jobs like you can apply for jobs

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<v Speaker 1>right through Creatively and we post hundreds, if not thousands

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<v Speaker 1>of job listings a week. How did you get the

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<v Speaker 1>word out at the beginning? So we launched it with

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<v Speaker 1>you know press, I promoted it on social and a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of friends who promoted it. UM. You know, we

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<v Speaker 1>have a you know Instagram account for Creatively, which we

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<v Speaker 1>used UM and you know, we've just gotten a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of you know, of of press because I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>truly something that just hasn't existed in the world. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>our job is really to facilitate jobs for creatives and

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<v Speaker 1>to make it easier for companies to find and higher creatives.

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<v Speaker 1>And our next venture, which we're launching this week, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, is our next step, creatively Pay. And creatively

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<v Speaker 1>Pay is what I think, a big game changer UM

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<v Speaker 1>in the world of hiring creatives, and a big game

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<v Speaker 1>changer for creatives because what we're doing is eliminating what

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<v Speaker 1>I think is one of the biggest pain points for creatives,

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<v Speaker 1>which is getting paid, the long wait between invoice and

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<v Speaker 1>being an accounts payable sending that check. Creatively Pay will

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<v Speaker 1>be the fastest way for creatives to get paid for

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<v Speaker 1>their work. They can get paid the same day for

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<v Speaker 1>their work. And not only that, but what creatively pay

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<v Speaker 1>will um we're announcing it this week, but in the

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<v Speaker 1>fall when we launch it, there will be ways for

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<v Speaker 1>you to very easily invoice to schedule your jobs. We

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<v Speaker 1>want to make life easier for creatives so they can

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<v Speaker 1>be creative. I felt so luck in my career to

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<v Speaker 1>have you know, a sort of infrastructure around me and

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<v Speaker 1>and and almost like a platform beneath me too, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>handle a lot of like logistics and a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>things on the business side, of my company so that

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<v Speaker 1>I could be free to let my brain be creative.

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<v Speaker 1>And I want to help other creatives have that, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think this is a big part of it. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I hear from friends that I work with. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>they're a photographer, they're a videographer, they're a hair person

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<v Speaker 1>to makeup person, and sometimes they're waiting three months to

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<v Speaker 1>get paid. So what we are doing is announcing a

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<v Speaker 1>partnership with or um Um and we are the interim

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<v Speaker 1>financing so that when you use Creatively pay, you're paid

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<v Speaker 1>the same day and or Um is the liquidity so

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<v Speaker 1>that companies can still have their thirty day terms or

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<v Speaker 1>whatever they need um. But the creative does not have

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<v Speaker 1>to wait all of that time to receive a check

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<v Speaker 1>for the work that they've completed. And does the company

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<v Speaker 1>the companies that partner with Creatively to do this, do

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<v Speaker 1>they have to pay an extra feed for that service happen,

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<v Speaker 1>They have to be very fine. But for the first

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<v Speaker 1>like several months or in the year um, there there

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<v Speaker 1>is no fee and we will never charge the creatives

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<v Speaker 1>for this because that's the other issue. A lot of

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<v Speaker 1>times creatives are getting chunks taken out of their paycheck

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<v Speaker 1>from agents and managers, which is okay if that's if

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<v Speaker 1>they're providing a service, but a lot of times like

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<v Speaker 1>they're having you know, money taken out for other things

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<v Speaker 1>when they're trying to get even paid on time. So

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<v Speaker 1>we want to make things as positive and productive for

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<v Speaker 1>the creative as possible. Um you know, orum will be

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<v Speaker 1>will verify all of the brands that we're working with.

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<v Speaker 1>But if a creative says to a company, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to get paid through creatively pay, it's very easy for

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<v Speaker 1>the company to get set up to pay them through

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<v Speaker 1>that and it's of no if it's of no pain

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<v Speaker 1>to the to the brand either well as somebody who's

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<v Speaker 1>been on the phone with freelancers desperately waiting by the

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<v Speaker 1>waiting by the mailbox for that all important check. I

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<v Speaker 1>can imagine that there will be some interest in this service.

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<v Speaker 1>I would imagine that there is a risk for you

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<v Speaker 1>in this in the sense that not every invoices paid

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<v Speaker 1>in full. How are you going to mitigate against the

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<v Speaker 1>dig of the deal that falls through the job that

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<v Speaker 1>gets paid a kill fee or a half fee. So

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<v Speaker 1>there I mean, listen, They're going to be some things

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<v Speaker 1>that are worked out over the next several months until

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<v Speaker 1>when we launched this in the fall. But Creatively is

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<v Speaker 1>not Creatively as the facilitator of this, like we're the

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<v Speaker 1>platform and we are the um you know, the kind

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<v Speaker 1>of invoicing and payment front end, whereas Orum is the finance.

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<v Speaker 1>They're like the bank. But Orum is this amazing, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>new company that is changing the way that money moves around.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's also no the other fee that creatives not fee,

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<v Speaker 1>but the lag time creatives haves is sometimes it takes

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<v Speaker 1>five days for the bank to clear your payment to

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<v Speaker 1>so Oorum's technology allows for there to be zero time

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<v Speaker 1>for your money to clear through the bank, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>providing the interim liquidity between the company and the creative UM.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's it's their responsibility to verify the brands

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<v Speaker 1>that are working with the creatives. So it's not like

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<v Speaker 1>if a photographer does a job for a birthday party

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<v Speaker 1>and it's an individual, like we're not getting in that game.

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<v Speaker 1>It's about verified brands on Creatively that can use Creatively

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<v Speaker 1>pay with creatives that would do that kind of business

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<v Speaker 1>at the scale. What's it been like for you launching

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<v Speaker 1>this kind of very I P based business versus Alison

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<v Speaker 1>Olivia a very hard you know, making shirts and making starts.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, it's funny exactly like my my uh my

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<v Speaker 1>main job is so tangible, right, Like it's touch, it's feel,

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<v Speaker 1>it's you know what like and this is all kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a little bit more um, you know in the ethos, right. So, um,

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<v Speaker 1>it's been really exciting for me to work kind of

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<v Speaker 1>start up again, right. And but I think like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a sort of natural entrepreneur where even if you look

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<v Speaker 1>at Alice Olivia, over the years, we've done so many

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<v Speaker 1>entrepreneurial things, even though as a company we're almost twenty

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<v Speaker 1>years old, like every year we're do something new, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we launched this, we did this collaboration. So there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of kind of like startup energy in Allison Olivia still.

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<v Speaker 1>But the difference is that I think with creatively, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the whole company's virtual. I'm working with all

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<v Speaker 1>these cool tech guys, you know, and and it's so

0:24:15.800 --> 0:24:18.800
<v Speaker 1>different than my my life at Alice and Olivia that's

0:24:18.800 --> 0:24:21.879
<v Speaker 1>filled with women in fabric and color and touch and

0:24:22.040 --> 0:24:24.800
<v Speaker 1>fittings and it's I mean, it could not be more opposite.

0:24:24.880 --> 0:24:29.600
<v Speaker 1>But it's still really creative um. That last startup of yours,

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<v Speaker 1>Alison Olivia in you told a fashion magazine that it

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<v Speaker 1>had grown to be a two hundred million dollar business.

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<v Speaker 1>You have expanded significantly since then. Can you give us

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<v Speaker 1>the ballpark of what the business is to give numbers

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<v Speaker 1>out and we definitely like cut back a lot in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty but for this year probably around like two fifty

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<v Speaker 1>million UM. And you know, I think the resizing that

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<v Speaker 1>sort of happened in was this kind of I always

0:24:59.080 --> 0:25:01.280
<v Speaker 1>try to look at things, is like the glasses have full,

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<v Speaker 1>and it allowed us to like kind of just tighten

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<v Speaker 1>things up in a way and change things without judgment.

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<v Speaker 1>Right Like every year it was like you had to grow,

0:25:10.240 --> 0:25:11.480
<v Speaker 1>you have to grow, you have to be up you know,

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<v Speaker 1>ten per cent or this, and in it was just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like, no, we've got to fix things and

0:25:17.080 --> 0:25:19.760
<v Speaker 1>we've got to make things more efficient. And you know

0:25:20.040 --> 0:25:22.080
<v Speaker 1>we've taken that time too to be able to like

0:25:22.240 --> 0:25:25.359
<v Speaker 1>make the company more echo like our fabrics are waste

0:25:25.440 --> 0:25:29.119
<v Speaker 1>are you know? Just everything became less about this, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Over I think the retail world for many years was

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<v Speaker 1>about like grow, grow, grow, and you were kind of

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<v Speaker 1>living in that growth versus living in profit. And I

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<v Speaker 1>like and I think that last year what we did

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<v Speaker 1>was slim things down to actually become more profitable, which

0:25:42.240 --> 0:25:45.480
<v Speaker 1>was sort of nice. So, um, you know we're not

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we're probably what like bigger than we were,

0:25:49.480 --> 0:25:55.359
<v Speaker 1>but we are way more efficient. So are you and

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<v Speaker 1>your partner Andrew Rosen? Are you still the principal owners

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<v Speaker 1>of the business? We are? And he's amazing. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like, um, I'm so lucky. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>my creatively team, I love I picked good work partners. Um.

0:26:08.280 --> 0:26:12.320
<v Speaker 1>So Andrew has been my partner for almost twenty years, right,

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<v Speaker 1>he's I mean, like I mean through the pandemic. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't tell you what I could like actually like cry

0:26:18.880 --> 0:26:20.920
<v Speaker 1>thinking about it because there were some really tough times.

0:26:21.000 --> 0:26:25.119
<v Speaker 1>But he was the most incredible support as a like

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<v Speaker 1>a friend, as like a big brother, and as a partner,

0:26:28.080 --> 0:26:30.640
<v Speaker 1>and he really helped us get through. I mean it's

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<v Speaker 1>complicated getting through all the financial you know sort of

0:26:33.960 --> 0:26:38.080
<v Speaker 1>runaround of you know, loans and and you know all everything.

0:26:38.119 --> 0:26:41.600
<v Speaker 1>It was crazy, the ppe loans. Um. He's an amazing

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<v Speaker 1>not just retailer and entrepreneur, but he's an incredible friend.

0:26:46.320 --> 0:26:48.200
<v Speaker 1>So I feel really lucky to have that and my

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<v Speaker 1>creatively team to like my CEO of Right Get Rich

0:26:50.960 --> 0:26:54.880
<v Speaker 1>amazing guy, my chief product officer amazing. So I I'm

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<v Speaker 1>surrounded by by some good good business partners, business business,

0:26:59.800 --> 0:27:03.919
<v Speaker 1>less business lives. Stacy, you have no shortage of drive

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<v Speaker 1>and ambition and it's wonderful. What do you think One

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<v Speaker 1>thing that I know is often talked about a peer

0:27:11.040 --> 0:27:14.680
<v Speaker 1>at Alan company is the for all the progress, there's

0:27:14.720 --> 0:27:21.800
<v Speaker 1>still relatively few of you, relatively few CEOs of really big, successful,

0:27:22.040 --> 0:27:25.040
<v Speaker 1>influential brands. And I know it's a tough question, but

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<v Speaker 1>do you have any thoughts about what it will take

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<v Speaker 1>to bring more women into the c suite? Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>have a lot of thoughts on it, so we might

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<v Speaker 1>have to do another interview. Um, but I think, listen,

0:27:36.680 --> 0:27:41.280
<v Speaker 1>balancing work and children is not easy, and you know

0:27:41.840 --> 0:27:45.119
<v Speaker 1>it is. It is not simple and it is not easy.

0:27:45.640 --> 0:27:51.560
<v Speaker 1>But companies need to create environments that allow for you know,

0:27:51.840 --> 0:27:54.240
<v Speaker 1>women to have a little bit of flexibility to succeed.

0:27:54.840 --> 0:27:57.960
<v Speaker 1>And they also need and I think women need to

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<v Speaker 1>root for other women. You know, I think so often

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<v Speaker 1>as a culture, when you know a woman is in

0:28:04.240 --> 0:28:06.320
<v Speaker 1>the press, the press is waiting to take her down.

0:28:06.640 --> 0:28:08.879
<v Speaker 1>And that is what needs to change. You know, we

0:28:09.000 --> 0:28:11.520
<v Speaker 1>need to like be proud of women for being ambitious.

0:28:11.560 --> 0:28:13.719
<v Speaker 1>We need to be proud of women for being successful,

0:28:14.200 --> 0:28:19.119
<v Speaker 1>and we need to you know, like we need to

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<v Speaker 1>allow for it a little bit more. And and I

0:28:22.320 --> 0:28:24.719
<v Speaker 1>think that when you look around this conference, yeah, it's

0:28:24.760 --> 0:28:28.119
<v Speaker 1>still mostly men and that does need to change. But

0:28:28.440 --> 0:28:30.760
<v Speaker 1>we need to start that from the early years. You know,

0:28:30.880 --> 0:28:32.960
<v Speaker 1>we need to encourage women to stay in the workforce

0:28:33.119 --> 0:28:35.960
<v Speaker 1>through the first years of having kids, because once you

0:28:36.119 --> 0:28:39.080
<v Speaker 1>leave the workforce during that time, it is really hard

0:28:39.200 --> 0:28:41.720
<v Speaker 1>to get back in it like an upper level. And

0:28:41.840 --> 0:28:44.080
<v Speaker 1>I see it all the time because you know, you

0:28:44.280 --> 0:28:46.160
<v Speaker 1>have a baby, You're like, I'm gonna take your two off.

0:28:46.200 --> 0:28:47.880
<v Speaker 1>Then you have another baby, and then all of a sudden,

0:28:47.960 --> 0:28:50.840
<v Speaker 1>you're like the world's moved really quickly during those years

0:28:50.880 --> 0:28:54.000
<v Speaker 1>of babies. And the best advice I can give is,

0:28:54.720 --> 0:28:56.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, and I can't even say that I did

0:28:56.520 --> 0:28:57.920
<v Speaker 1>a great job of this because I was kind of

0:28:57.960 --> 0:29:01.360
<v Speaker 1>always like I'm gonna do all of it. And you know, women, hut,

0:29:01.960 --> 0:29:07.120
<v Speaker 1>women and men need to be collaborative in their parenting

0:29:07.480 --> 0:29:11.280
<v Speaker 1>and caregiving efforts. Like there needs to be a standard

0:29:11.440 --> 0:29:13.800
<v Speaker 1>that changes where it's not always the mom that has

0:29:13.840 --> 0:29:15.479
<v Speaker 1>to run to school, or always the mom that has

0:29:15.520 --> 0:29:17.160
<v Speaker 1>to take the kid to the doctor, or the mom

0:29:17.240 --> 0:29:20.040
<v Speaker 1>that has to do this. It has to be collaborative parenting.

0:29:20.200 --> 0:29:23.280
<v Speaker 1>And I think that's actually a really big part of

0:29:23.680 --> 0:29:26.680
<v Speaker 1>women being able to make it to the upper levels

0:29:26.840 --> 0:29:28.920
<v Speaker 1>because women tend to take on all of the home

0:29:29.040 --> 0:29:31.560
<v Speaker 1>duties and work and then you know, you're fried, you're tired,

0:29:31.600 --> 0:29:34.320
<v Speaker 1>you're exhausted, and at some point you maybe give up

0:29:34.480 --> 0:29:36.600
<v Speaker 1>or you know, want to work part time or you know,

0:29:36.800 --> 0:29:40.640
<v Speaker 1>lose the ambition to get up here. Um. And and

0:29:40.800 --> 0:29:43.240
<v Speaker 1>I think that you know, that starts with kind of

0:29:43.360 --> 0:29:48.840
<v Speaker 1>like societal training, that parenting is parenting between man and man,

0:29:48.960 --> 0:29:50.800
<v Speaker 1>man and woman, woman and woman, but it is two

0:29:50.880 --> 0:29:54.200
<v Speaker 1>people that are responsible for that work. And luckily I

0:29:54.240 --> 0:29:57.400
<v Speaker 1>have a husband who like is really present dad. Right.

0:29:57.600 --> 0:29:59.760
<v Speaker 1>But um, but that's one thing. And then the other

0:29:59.840 --> 0:30:03.440
<v Speaker 1>thing is that companies need to create environments that allow

0:30:03.760 --> 0:30:07.080
<v Speaker 1>women to succeed. You know, like I don't expect women

0:30:07.120 --> 0:30:09.400
<v Speaker 1>to be at dinners at eight o'clock every night, because

0:30:09.480 --> 0:30:10.800
<v Speaker 1>I know they need to go home and they want

0:30:10.800 --> 0:30:13.560
<v Speaker 1>to be with their kids for bedtime. You know, we're flexible,

0:30:13.840 --> 0:30:15.720
<v Speaker 1>especially like I have a lot of women who, like,

0:30:16.120 --> 0:30:18.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, as they became more senior executives in my company,

0:30:18.680 --> 0:30:21.520
<v Speaker 1>like we have a tremendous amount of flexibility to allow

0:30:21.640 --> 0:30:24.400
<v Speaker 1>them to kind of, you know, be a little more virtual.

0:30:24.560 --> 0:30:27.040
<v Speaker 1>And I hope that this year encourages companies to see

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<v Speaker 1>that and allow for that too. Sorry I'm rambling, but

0:30:29.440 --> 0:30:31.480
<v Speaker 1>I could go on about this for a very long time,

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<v Speaker 1>I can tell. And I was just thinking that if ever,

0:30:34.440 --> 0:30:37.600
<v Speaker 1>there has been a there's been a period for learning

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<v Speaker 1>about what, you know, what requires a person to physically

0:30:41.120 --> 0:30:43.640
<v Speaker 1>be in an office versus you know what, what you

0:30:43.760 --> 0:30:47.080
<v Speaker 1>can do in a situation that gives you more flexibility

0:30:47.160 --> 0:30:50.720
<v Speaker 1>when you have rug rats running around And yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, listen and I and I always preface these

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<v Speaker 1>conversations with I know that I was privileged and lucky

0:30:57.600 --> 0:30:59.520
<v Speaker 1>to have a lot of help when my kids were little.

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<v Speaker 1>I will say that the hardest years, or when your

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<v Speaker 1>kids are like one, two, and three, once they're in

0:31:04.640 --> 0:31:07.160
<v Speaker 1>school a full day, you can create this balance where

0:31:07.760 --> 0:31:09.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, you sort of drop them off at school,

0:31:10.040 --> 0:31:12.520
<v Speaker 1>you go to work, they maybe have an activity, everyone's

0:31:12.560 --> 0:31:15.360
<v Speaker 1>home right. And you know, I really have always tried

0:31:15.400 --> 0:31:18.280
<v Speaker 1>to reiterate the fact that Alice and Olivia that if

0:31:18.320 --> 0:31:20.120
<v Speaker 1>you were at your desk pass like six or seven

0:31:20.160 --> 0:31:22.480
<v Speaker 1>at night, like you're not managing your time well, because

0:31:22.520 --> 0:31:25.200
<v Speaker 1>we don't. You know, as a company, we really try to.

0:31:25.840 --> 0:31:28.360
<v Speaker 1>We we want women to have a balanced life. That

0:31:28.480 --> 0:31:30.560
<v Speaker 1>is so important to me as a woman, and it's

0:31:30.600 --> 0:31:34.000
<v Speaker 1>important to me to nurture and really facilitate for the

0:31:34.080 --> 0:31:36.960
<v Speaker 1>woman who work for me. But um, but the hardest

0:31:37.040 --> 0:31:39.240
<v Speaker 1>years or when your kids are little, although I will

0:31:39.320 --> 0:31:41.840
<v Speaker 1>say that as your kids get bigger, you have bigger problems.

0:31:42.240 --> 0:31:47.280
<v Speaker 1>But the band aid won't fix everything that neosporin doesn't

0:31:47.320 --> 0:31:50.400
<v Speaker 1>like fix every every boo boo. But but you know,

0:31:50.640 --> 0:31:53.960
<v Speaker 1>it's it's but companies have to you know, just as

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<v Speaker 1>they're making efforts in terms of diversity and inclusion, they

0:31:57.320 --> 0:32:01.040
<v Speaker 1>also have to be continuously making efforts to you know,

0:32:01.280 --> 0:32:04.400
<v Speaker 1>make sure that they have more women involved and not

0:32:04.600 --> 0:32:06.600
<v Speaker 1>just like oh I put a woman on my board,

0:32:06.760 --> 0:32:10.360
<v Speaker 1>like you need women involved in your company in you know,

0:32:10.440 --> 0:32:13.440
<v Speaker 1>those sea level positions. Even in the fashion industry today,

0:32:13.480 --> 0:32:15.760
<v Speaker 1>when they did a record a couple of years ago, um,

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<v Speaker 1>it was like there was only like, I can't remember

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<v Speaker 1>the exact personage, but the percentage of women in C

0:32:20.760 --> 0:32:26.680
<v Speaker 1>suites in fashion was like only the number. When we

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<v Speaker 1>look around, we see so many great examples, like yourself,

0:32:29.760 --> 0:32:34.320
<v Speaker 1>of women thriving, and yet the numbers are just stubbornly low.

0:32:34.560 --> 0:32:37.320
<v Speaker 1>It's going to take time because you can't just pop

0:32:37.400 --> 0:32:40.360
<v Speaker 1>women into the C suite, right, you have to bring

0:32:40.480 --> 0:32:43.760
<v Speaker 1>them up and so that, you know, women need to

0:32:43.840 --> 0:32:46.160
<v Speaker 1>be mentored and women need to be encouraged, women need

0:32:46.200 --> 0:32:48.479
<v Speaker 1>to be inspired to stay in the workforce, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to take, you know, five or ten years to

0:32:51.120 --> 0:32:53.360
<v Speaker 1>start to see that all really changed. I do think

0:32:53.400 --> 0:32:55.520
<v Speaker 1>the efforts being made, and I do think we will

0:32:55.600 --> 0:32:57.720
<v Speaker 1>start to see it. But you can't just all of

0:32:57.720 --> 0:32:59.480
<v Speaker 1>a sudden have like all women in the C suite

0:32:59.520 --> 0:33:02.200
<v Speaker 1>because you have them down, you know, at the mid level.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got to absolutely have the foundation to succeed. Yeah. Absolutely, well, Stacy,

0:33:07.760 --> 0:33:09.920
<v Speaker 1>my goodness, thank you so much for taking time out

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<v Speaker 1>from this very heavy event to share your thoughts with us,

0:33:13.240 --> 0:33:16.440
<v Speaker 1>and congratulations on the success of Alison Olivia and look

0:33:16.480 --> 0:33:19.440
<v Speaker 1>forward to seeing Creatively grow in the coming year. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and everyone needs to check out creatively pay really appreciate

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