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Speaker 1: How are you? I'm good? How are you? I am

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Speaker 1: doing fantastic.

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Speaker 2: I'm ready to roll, and I'm ready to hear from

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Speaker 2: you right now on what I find to be a

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Speaker 2: surprising rumor. It's just a rumor, it's no big deal,

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Speaker 2: and I've love out of the box thinking.

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Speaker 1: But here's my thought.

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Speaker 2: When I hear that JJ Reddick is potentially a candidate

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Speaker 2: that's being targeted by the Los Angeles Lakers as their

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Speaker 2: next head coach. Young fella clearly knows the game, has

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Speaker 2: built a media career that's impressive, and oh, by the way,

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Speaker 2: file this has a podcast with Lebron James. Okay, I

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Speaker 2: feel like this whole Lebron and head coach thing has

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Speaker 2: reached the level of what, once upon a time was

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Speaker 2: called the OJ Simpson Trial. I don't want to date us,

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Speaker 2: but we're both old enough to remember what was going down.

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Speaker 2: It was a trial where on the daily the prosecution

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Speaker 2: is sitting there going we have every single piece of

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Speaker 2: evidence possible. It's everywhere, We've got all of it. Everything

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Speaker 2: looks completely clear as day, and a brilliant and expensive

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Speaker 2: group of defense attorneys would have you believe there's nothing

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Speaker 2: to see here. I don't even know why we're here.

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Speaker 2: Why are we having a trial? Honestly, how are we

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Speaker 2: going to continue? I this plausible deniability thing that Lebron

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Speaker 2: has with regard to who's his head coach, I had

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Speaker 2: nothing to do with it. He's at ten head coaches.

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Speaker 2: He has it is clear as day. The evidence suggests

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Speaker 2: he is the one calling the shots every single time.

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Speaker 2: Yet will never cop to it and always gives this

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Speaker 2: sort of like collective shrug of his shoulders whenever something

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Speaker 2: ago with the firing of Darwin Ham. Come on, man,

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Speaker 2: like that's my final analysis. Come on, man, you gotta

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Speaker 2: be kidding me. We're gonna hire your podcast host to

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Speaker 2: be the head coach.

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Speaker 1: Of the Lakers. Now see he fired up today?

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Speaker 2: Huh you couldn't wait. You got to be kidding me.

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Speaker 2: Come on, give me something on this.

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Speaker 3: What are we doing? This is what I'll give you. Okay,

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Speaker 3: Has jj Reddick been hired?

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Speaker 1: No? Okay, justin rumor, just a rumor.

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Speaker 3: So us waxing poetic about you know, JJ Reddick being

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Speaker 3: hired the what if he doesn't get hired, because you

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Speaker 3: can go either or if we're going to play the

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Speaker 3: if in the what if game?

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Speaker 1: Correct? Correct?

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Speaker 2: So, so we're already there, if the Lakers are actually

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Speaker 2: poking around, we're already in a credible place.

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Speaker 1: I mean.

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Speaker 3: The thing that bothers me about the whole situation is like,

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Speaker 3: I didn't know JJ Reddick was uh wanted to coach

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Speaker 3: back to something that happened a few years ago that

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Speaker 3: was happening, and that was a disaster and that didn't work.

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Speaker 3: That was the Steve Nash hiring in Brooklyn. Yep, Like

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Speaker 3: I didn't even know Steve Nash wanted to coach, but

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Speaker 3: yet he got hired as the Brooklyn coach. And then

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Speaker 3: the players didn't do any doing any favors by going

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Speaker 3: like we all are coaches. You know, he's one day

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Speaker 3: You want to undermine a new coach, that's a perfect

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Speaker 3: way to undermine it. And so I don't think this

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Speaker 3: Redick has been on a coaching staff. Do we have

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Speaker 3: that information. Do we know that if he has been

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Speaker 1: He has coached little people the same way you have.

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, so I as could be in the running

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Speaker 1: If you enough to know that, you'd probably do a

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Speaker 3: I could promise you, right now, I could do a

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Speaker 2: You've been a pro athlete, been around the way time

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Speaker 2: or two like, I mean, yeah, I mean no one

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Right?

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Speaker 2: But but so, okay, if we're in a hypothetical space

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Speaker 2: we are, let's go there for a second.

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Speaker 1: How would you feel if this guy gets hired.

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Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not in favor of Well, look, I

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Speaker 3: don't like it because number one, our aspirations aren't to

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Speaker 3: aspirations are to be champions, and as we're saying, in

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Speaker 3: these playoffs, you got to bring it. Adjustments are everything.

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Speaker 3: And although you played basketball for a long time, coaching

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Speaker 3: on the other side of that is completely different. Managing

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Speaker 3: game flow, timeouts, all of those things players don't ever

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Speaker 3: have to worry about. And so if you haven't been

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Speaker 3: able to do that at the pro level, in any aspect,

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Speaker 1: Gives me pause.

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Speaker 3: Has given you the head coaching job to one of

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Speaker 3: problem for me. It's a problem for me. I'm not

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Speaker 3: excited about it. Just fy I get it. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 3: your boy. Everybody loves to work with their boy until

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Speaker 3: they don't like to work with their boy. They ran

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Speaker 3: Steve Nash about it, there, didn't they.

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Speaker 2: Well, let's even just go to the history of this

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Speaker 2: particular player, this particular player. Here's been my issue with

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Speaker 2: it all along. I don't mind if Lebron James has

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Speaker 2: It's not that I have an issue even if they

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Speaker 2: also be authentic. Let's go ahead and call that what

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Speaker 2: it is, rather than whenever a coach gets fired, Lebron's

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Speaker 2: over there, like I did. I had no idea that

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Speaker 2: was common. You got to be absolutely kidding me, Like, can.

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Speaker 1: We all please.

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Speaker 2: Agree to the premise that no head coach for any

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Speaker 2: team that even has a shot at Lebron, no head

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Speaker 2: coach is hired until Lebron gives the salute. And so

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Speaker 2: I my issue for all of these coaches would be, Dude,

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Speaker 2: you signed off on this.

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Speaker 1: This was collaborative.

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Speaker 3: I don't think they talked to Lebron. Well, I don't

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Speaker 3: think did Darvinham hire and I know the Frank Vogel

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Speaker 3: we know who Lebron, Lebron wanted ty Lou before they

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Speaker 3: hired Frank Vogel. We know that and not available, and

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Speaker 3: it didn't well, it was available. They just didn't want

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Speaker 3: to pay him. That that was the problem. Well, Tylou

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Speaker 3: but they didn't want to pay him. They wanted to

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Speaker 3: give him a shorter contract because they were already paying

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Speaker 3: two coaches who were no longer on the bench, so

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Speaker 3: they didn't want to give them the standard four or

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Speaker 3: five year deal. That was the problem, and so they

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Speaker 3: went with Frank Vogel. I'm not sure Lebron signed off

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Speaker 3: on that, not quite sure. It didn't seem like him

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Speaker 3: and Lebron, Darvin Ham and Lebron were ever on the

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Speaker 2: I would find it to be such an unbelievably.

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Speaker 1: High level of malpractice.

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Speaker 2: If you are bubble Chip or not, you are in

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Speaker 2: recent you are in recent views of title contention, you

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Speaker 2: have at that time what a thirty seven thirty six

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Speaker 2: year old Lebron James and you're just out here iron

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Speaker 2: coaches without talking to him.

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Speaker 3: No, no, talking to someone and getting their approval is

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Speaker 3: completely different.

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Speaker 1: And we know that. No, no, no, no, it is it

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Speaker 3: It is like if I bring Lebron James, if I'm

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Speaker 3: Jennie Buss and uh and I bring him in and say, hey,

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Speaker 3: we're hiring the coach.

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Speaker 1: These are the choices. How do you feel about these? Right? Oh?

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Speaker 3: I love Tyleru, I want Tyleru. Okay, what about Frank Vogel. Wow,

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Speaker 3: you know I would prefer Tyleru or whoever else was

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Speaker 3: like that's that is communicating, That is having the converse,

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Speaker 3: That is talking. That has nothing to do with no,

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Speaker 3: you got to hire this person or we got.

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Speaker 1: To like you know what I mean, Like, I know

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Speaker 1: exactly what you mean.

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Speaker 2: So, but the lack of disapproval is approval in this

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying that Lebron is sitting there in the interview,

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Speaker 1: But what I am.

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Speaker 2: Saying is you are not acting without knowing that Lebron's

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Speaker 2: not gonna pitch a hissy.

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Speaker 1: You're not doing that period, and if you are, it is.

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Speaker 2: Such a high level of NBA twenty twenty four malpractice.

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Speaker 2: The Lakers should be stripped of their logo if they're

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Speaker 2: out there doing that. And by the way, he wouldn't

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Speaker 2: still be there if they were doing that.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think he's here for other things.

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Speaker 3: This first spot Lebron wanted to be in and to

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Speaker 3: finish out in. We know that he has a lot

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Speaker 3: of business. His kids are here, so I understand that aspect.

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Speaker 3: I understand, Hey, you can go play for one of

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Speaker 3: the biggest brands on the planet earth for basketball, be

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Speaker 3: in the city you want to be where you have

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Speaker 3: multiple houses, where your kids go to school.

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Speaker 1: Like, I get that, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: Like, I understand that. It's not It's not like, oh gosh,

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Speaker 3: I got to play for the Laker. It's not one

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Speaker 3: of those situations. So when we sit here and say,

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Speaker 3: you know, where's Lebron gonna go?

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Speaker 1: Milwaukee? Right?

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Speaker 3: Is he is he at this point in his career?

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Speaker 3: Is he moving to Atlanta? I don't Right, if he

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Speaker 3: doesn't take his player option, is he is he? Is

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Speaker 3: he going to the Knicks or the Brooklyn Just in

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Speaker 3: terms of life, his family and what he has set up. Right,

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Speaker 3: we saw another superstar mortgage off his family and in

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Speaker 3: hopes of continue to play. I don't think this is

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Speaker 3: one of those type of situations. That's why I don't

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Speaker 3: think Lebron is gonna leave. Uh And I think ownership

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Speaker 3: knows that.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: I could be wrong. I'm just speculating. This is my opinion.

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Speaker 2: I'm just guessing. Yeah, I'd be surprised to be leaves too. However,

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Speaker 2: ownership has already at least floated two ideas this offseason

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Speaker 2: that would suggest that they're terrified that he's going to leave,

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Speaker 2: which I'll expand on here coming up in just a second. Really,

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Speaker 2: glad you're with us. That's it from Salama Mark Wellard.

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Speaker 2: Those are both the acts of an organization that is

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Speaker 3: You know, there have been experiments, Luke Walton just all

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Speaker 3: It hurts me, I'm upset about it, but I'm not

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's not what the Lakers do. We know

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Speaker 2: Obviously it's a low percentage, but that's not my point.

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Speaker 3: They don't value their draft picks as highly as other

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Speaker 1: And that's fair because they almost never end up being in.

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Speaker 2: But but I still think that you're like to say

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Speaker 2: It could be, but it could also be Draymond Green

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Speaker 2: Because it's just the first two that came to my

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Speaker 3: Like, and you got to remember, I'm a seventh round

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Speaker 3: that's that's exactly what it's. It's not if there's no

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Speaker 1: My dude, how many people even know that the draft lottery?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, most people don't know. And everybody doesn't know, and.

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Speaker 3: Then nobody knows who that's going to be because it's

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Speaker 1: That's the issue.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel you.

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Speaker 2: But at the same time, having heard of people should

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Speaker 1: But the process is.

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Speaker 2: The process is, we're looking for people, and if you

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Speaker 3: But we won't know that, Like, we won't have any

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Speaker 1: We won't know.

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Speaker 3: And the majority of the like the two time player

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Speaker 2: But it's the Lakers front office's job to know who

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Speaker 3: They don't care never, they don't care about those draft picks.

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Speaker 3: Well they don't, and I think they should. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: They might, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Look at him right now, look like a team that

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Speaker 1: Oh I want to.

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Speaker 3: Go get a young player. You can get young players.

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Speaker 3: Think about it, there's only six with a sixty two pick,

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Speaker 1: All the more reason not to blow on.

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Speaker 3: dad some days and then go down to the to

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Speaker 3: the I don't know, the South Bay wing Bats or

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Speaker 3: whatever they're called.

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Speaker 1: The g T I don't know that that should be

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Speaker 1: their name. If it isn't, right, I like that. I

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Speaker 1: like that. All right.

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Speaker 2: Look, let's get Nick Cope in here and get everything

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Speaker 2: all all squared away out in the palibot going.

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Speaker 1: No Steve tonight, but we're going. We got necked even

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Speaker 1: in the streets. Man, he had the clubs. Come on,

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Speaker 1: are you from what's up? Big? What's up?

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Speaker 6: Good to be with you guys again. Yeah, the South

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Speaker 6: Bay G League team, they are very original with their nickname.

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Speaker 6: They are the South Bay Lakers, Southakers.

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Speaker 1: There you go.

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Speaker 6: They were the Los Angeles d Capital Defenders for a

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Speaker 6: while before they just went to South Bay Lakers.

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Speaker 1: So there you go.

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Speaker 6: I think wing Bats definitely, you know a little more.

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Speaker 1: Right, little profestive, right, a little more punch, separate yourself.

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Speaker 6: We do have Game four Nuggets and Timberwolves going on

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Speaker 6: right now in Minnesota. Just knocked down a bucket to

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Speaker 6: stop a twelve nothing run for the Nuggets here late

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Speaker 6: first quarter. It's twenty seven to twenty four in favor

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Speaker 6: of the defending champs. Who are trying to even this

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Speaker 6: series at two games a piece. This game is being

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Speaker 6: played in Minneapolis. You've got nine points for Nicole Jokics

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Speaker 6: to lead Denver. Aaron Gordon has eight more fast start

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Speaker 6: for Anthony Edwards. He's up to eleven points to lead Minnesota. Earlier,

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Speaker 6: Pacers throttled the Knicks one twenty one to eighty nine.

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Speaker 6: That series now tied at two to two. Heading back

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Speaker 6: to New York and after the game, Tom Thibodeau didn't

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Speaker 6: have too many words to describe that one.

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Speaker 2: They'll go behind early, didn't respond well, so better fix it.

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Speaker 6: So work to be done for New York. Og Nanobi

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Speaker 6: missed the second straight game with a hamstring injury. Tyrese

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Speaker 6: Haliburton scored a team high twenty points. Atlanta Hawks from

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Speaker 6: that is who won the NBA Draft Lottery. It's their

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Speaker 6: first time in franchise history despite having just a three

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Speaker 6: percent chance to win it. Remember they were in the

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Speaker 6: playing games they were the ten seed in the East.

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Speaker 6: Wizards will pick second, Rockets, third, Spurs fourth. Stanley Cup Playoffs.

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Speaker 6: Bruins currently lead the Panthers two to one heading to

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Speaker 6: the third period in Boston and is Florida leading that

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Speaker 6: series two to one. You have Game three coming up

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Speaker 6: at nine to thirty Eastern tonight, Canucks at Oilers. That

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Speaker 6: series at a game apiece. One game going on in baseball.

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Speaker 6: That's a break at the Mets one to one ball

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Speaker 6: game in the sixth inning. Earlier Astros defeat of the

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Speaker 6: Tigers nine to three had vintage Justin Verlander at Comerica Park,

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Speaker 6: seven innings, no runs, two hits, his best start of

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Speaker 6: the season. Padre shout out the Dodgers for zip you

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Speaker 6: Darvish through seven scoreless show. Hey Otani out today with

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Speaker 6: back sorens, but he and Dave Roberts Bull said that

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Speaker 6: they expect o'tani to be back in the lineup tomorrow

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Speaker 6: when La visits the Giants.

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Speaker 1: And a couple other notes here.

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Speaker 6: Brad Kislowski won the NASCAR Cup Series race at Darlington.

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Speaker 6: Roy McElroy won at quil Hollow, five shots ahead of Xanderschoffley.

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Speaker 1: Guys, back to you, okay, Nick, great to have you

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Speaker 1: good stuff.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate that we are live in the tie rack dot

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Speaker 2: Com studios. Mark Willardy from salam along the lines of

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Speaker 2: these NBA series that we are watching and watched earlier

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Speaker 2: today a couple questions.

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Speaker 1: You agree with me?

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Speaker 2: Here he this game we're watching right now, winner of

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Speaker 2: tonight probably gonna win that.

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Speaker 3: You're great, Yeah, that's a yeah, because the momentum has

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Speaker 3: completely shift, and which means it'll continue to go in

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Speaker 3: that direction of Denver.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 3: It's it's it's hard to stop momentum when it shifts back. Right,

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Speaker 3: you win two on the road, right, and then you're

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Speaker 3: coming home off winning two on the road.

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Speaker 1: It does something.

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Speaker 3: Right now, there's a little bit tougher to breathe up

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Speaker 3: there in the fourth quarter for opposing teams. Every shot

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Speaker 3: matters more like, you know, the onus is now on

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Speaker 3: a Minnesota and the pressure is off of Denver. So

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Speaker 3: you this is a must win for the timber Wolves.

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Speaker 1: Yep, I agree, I agree. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: This is one of those situations where I mean, look,

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Speaker 2: we're not in the locker room. I can't tell you

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Speaker 2: exactly what it looked and felt like, but oh boy,

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Speaker 2: you win two games in Denver, and that team had

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Speaker 2: a playing flight and a couple of days to really

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Speaker 2: feel themselves, really feel themselves because America had decided within

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Speaker 2: those first two games. Oh oh, the Timberwolves are gonna

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Speaker 2: win the NBA Championship. It wasn't just like, hey, nice

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Speaker 2: job to nothing lead on the Nuggets. It was you

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Speaker 2: have become the presumptive favorites to win the whole thing.

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Speaker 2: In that moment, you were the Western Conference favorite and

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Speaker 2: the Celtics are injured and I don't even know where

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Speaker 2: Vegas odds got to, but I know what most NBA

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Speaker 2: fans thought in that moment. They're like, oh my god,

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Speaker 2: Minnesota's on the track. They're gonna win this whole thing.

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Speaker 2: And I wonder that's my takeaway today. Now, they may

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Speaker 2: go win this game tonight. They're only down by five

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Speaker 2: here at the end of one quarter. They may go

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Speaker 2: win this one tonight. And maybe that's exactly what's going

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Speaker 2: to happen.

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Speaker 1: They'll go win the NBA Championship.

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Speaker 2: But I also think that when we talk about, and

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Speaker 2: we did for so long, the youth or the inexperience

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Speaker 2: that was at the top of the West with the

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Speaker 2: Thunder and the Minnesota Timberwolves, and we wondered how would

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Speaker 2: they hold up. Well, their play has been fine, but

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Speaker 2: I wonder, in a situation after winning those first two games,

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Speaker 2: if that's where the inexperience didn't show itself to where

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Speaker 2: for forty eight hours they were the focus of the league.

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Speaker 2: The media is in Minnesota talking them up. Anthony Edwards

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Speaker 2: is becoming, He's going from a star to a superstar.

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Speaker 2: And if in that moment they didn't relax a little

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Speaker 2: bit because the shure looks like they might.

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Speaker 1: Have, Yeah it it could be a lot, right, it

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Speaker 1: could be a lot.

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Speaker 3: Anthony Edwards was an absolute beast those first two games.

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Speaker 3: You control the flow of it, and they really, you know,

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Speaker 3: stepped into a position they hadn't been in since you know,

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Speaker 3: KG was there back when they made it to the

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Speaker 3: find the Western Conference finals.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 3: But it can all go away if you don't finish

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Speaker 3: the job. And we saw that in Game three where

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Speaker 3: Denver came out on a home on a away court

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Speaker 3: and just dominated took over the game, which we knew

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Speaker 3: they were gonna come to play. You know, all those

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Speaker 3: people saying sweep this and sweep that. I mean, they're champions.

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Speaker 3: They're champions for a reason. Way too much talent on

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Speaker 3: that team. Uh, and it's gonna it's gonna be a fight.

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Speaker 3: And I think Minnesota understands that they're in a real brawl.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 3: You know, losing the first two games can give you

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Speaker 3: a false sense of of confidence. Oh ma, ain't nothing, man,

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Speaker 3: We're gonna We're gonna breathe through them. But if you

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Speaker 3: don't bring that same focus, if that same energy you

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Speaker 3: had the game one, game two on their court, coming

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Speaker 3: home with lackluster efforts, man, that's how you just sap

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Speaker 3: completely sap out your your momentum.

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Speaker 2: I think it's it's totally fair. Yeah, did they relax?

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Speaker 2: Is a question? And then in the other series, there's

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Speaker 2: a question about the process of the New York Knicks,

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Speaker 2: and we'll ask that coming up next with you from

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Speaker 2: Salam Mark Willard.

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Speaker 2: Right Live ty rack dot com studios. Mark with a

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Speaker 2: y from Salam, Damn, damn. The timber Wolves are already

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Speaker 2: building themselves a little hole here, already down by fourteen

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Speaker 2: in the second quarter.

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Speaker 1: It goes after getting this is after getting off to

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Speaker 1: a really good start.

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Speaker 2: By the way, they got off to a really good

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Speaker 2: start hit his first four shots in a row and

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Speaker 2: everything was chilling, and then.

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Speaker 1: This just whooped it.

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Speaker 2: This is I gotta admit, man, this is surprising to

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Speaker 2: me after what we watched in games one and two.

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Speaker 1: You're not wrong. These guys are champs.

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Speaker 2: I didn't expect them to go away, but making a

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Speaker 2: sixteen point lead for the Nuggets, this is this. This

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Speaker 2: performance the last two games so far here in Minnesota

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Speaker 2: is eyebrow raising, to say the least.

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Speaker 1: No, it is.

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Speaker 3: And they've come in and they're locked in. But that's

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Speaker 3: the heart of a champion. If you've if you've been

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Speaker 3: through it, if you've been there before, you know exactly

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Speaker 3: what it takes to get there again. That's the advantage, right,

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Speaker 3: that's the advantage. That's what it is. And so they've

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Speaker 3: locked in to a place they locked in last year

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Speaker 3: and and they're rolling, they're cooking, and it's gonna take

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Speaker 3: more than you know, Anthony Edwards to pull them out

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Speaker 3: of this hole.

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Speaker 1: What about it?

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Speaker 3: And the defense that they played, yep, those first two

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Speaker 3: games was unmatched. We don't see the same urgency, the

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Speaker 3: same movement, the same harassment. It's not there. It's not there.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's like I said, the only thing I can

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Speaker 2: guess is that they on some level felt like they

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Speaker 2: had it.

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Speaker 1: And we talk about.

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Speaker 2: Minnesota as if they're a young team like Oklahoma City,

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Speaker 2: and they're not. Anthony Edwards a young fella, but they

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Speaker 2: got Mike Conley and they got Rudy Gobert and they

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Speaker 2: like these people have been around the way for a minute,

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Speaker 2: and so that would surprise me.

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Speaker 1: But you know how the narrative is gonna go.

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Speaker 2: We're the ones watching this, and that's what it feels like,

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Speaker 2: because I can't I can't figure out another way to

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Speaker 2: explain looking that good and then looking this bad, other

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Speaker 2: than to think you thought you had it. We all

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Speaker 2: thought you had it. Well, yeah, man like swag.

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Speaker 3: When you get your swag going, and it's it's you know,

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Speaker 3: you feel like it's we got this.

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Speaker 1: Man, were about to cook these dudes. Man, we were

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Speaker 1: gonna get a break.

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Speaker 3: And when we started talking, and I'm not saying that

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Speaker 3: they were saying this, but that's the sentiment we got

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Speaker 3: watching them come out in game three, yep, yep at home.

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Speaker 3: It was not like, oh, we about to keep our

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Speaker 3: boot on their neck. That's not the energy they came

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Speaker 3: out with. At all.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of things that happened fast, the Indiana Pacers were

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Speaker 2: up by twenty one quarter in today and have evened

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Speaker 2: up the series at two too, And so yes, a,

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Speaker 2: I might have been wrong about the Indiana Pacers. But

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Speaker 2: for me, here's my bigger question, and this is what

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Speaker 2: the guys on inside the NBA were just talking about

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Speaker 2: an hour ago. Is TIBs wearing his team the leap out?

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Speaker 2: Because now Anonobe is hurt Josh Hart, you know, I

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Speaker 2: mean he did today because of game flow, But Josh

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Speaker 2: Hart doesn't come off the floor. We know that Brunson

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Speaker 2: is being asked to shoulder as big of a load

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Speaker 2: as anybody in the.

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Speaker 1: Entire league right now.

657
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Speaker 2: And the Knicks are in a spot where it's like

658
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Speaker 2: the longer these series go, you know, even they even

659
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,360
Speaker 2: got wobbly there at the end of the Philly series

660
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 2: for a minute. And really that game, that game that

661
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 2: went their way, if it hadn't it got so close

662
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 2: there in game six, If Philly pulls that out and

663
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 2: you end up in a game seven, it can easily

664
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Speaker 2: just be well, who got hot like that?

665
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 1: Like that series could have gotten away from them.

666
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 2: And now to watch them do this their performance in

667
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 2: Indiana this week was not good, not close. Like I

668
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 2: just you start to question, especially because of his way.

669
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 2: We all know who Tims is. Rub some dirt on it,

670
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 2: get your butt back out there and let's go like

671
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:12,839
Speaker 2: he's mister tough guy.

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Speaker 1: I'm still waiting.

673
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 2: He's been around for a couple of decades and I've

674
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 2: still never seen a smile. I haven't seen it happen,

675
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:23,959
Speaker 2: not planning on having it happen, and so I don't

676
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 2: know does that does that work? When you just it

677
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 2: just feels like he's grinding his team's gears all the

678
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:31,280
Speaker 2: way through.

679
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Speaker 3: This At this late in the season, you cannot play

680
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 3: six people. You can't play six players. It's just not

681
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 3: I mean at the especially in these series.

682
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,760
Speaker 1: This is a high, fast paced series.

683
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:52,919
Speaker 3: This isn't a take your time, set up the half

684
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Speaker 3: court offense.

685
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 1: This is literally this is this is fast paced.

686
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,240
Speaker 3: Up and down, up and down, up and down, makes

687
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 3: miss it doesn't matter, and you need to get guys

688
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 3: where It's like Josh Hart came out of the game

689
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 3: for the first time, and then the playoffs they're pretty

690
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 3: much in game three. I believe like it. It's not

691
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:23,320
Speaker 3: sustainable and Indiana that's the pressure. When we talked about

692
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:26,720
Speaker 3: Indiana and the Bucks series, I mentioned that's the pressure

693
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 3: they play with. They don't care. They want to go

694
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:33,919
Speaker 3: up and down the court and going against and going

695
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:38,439
Speaker 3: against a team that was older, that's gonna be tough

696
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 3: for him, right young, they're young, they're going and they

697
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 3: don't care if you make it or miss. They're attacking

698
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:47,319
Speaker 3: the other end at the same speed and the same rate.

699
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 3: And we're seeing that and now it's become a war

700
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 3: of p attrition. Ojon Andobi goes out with the hamstring

701
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 3: that hurts him. I mean, Josh Hart is leading the

702
00:39:56,520 --> 00:40:00,919
Speaker 3: playoffs and rebounds. He's what six ' four six three.

703
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 3: It's just a lot of pressure to put on them.

704
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 3: Jalen Bronson's on one foot and to ask him to

705
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 3: score at the clip he's been scoring at with his

706
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:13,879
Speaker 3: frame and his size, it's difficult. It will wear down

707
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:17,360
Speaker 3: on you. And that's what we're seeing, no doubt about it.

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Speaker 2: And I like you even look at the performances the

709
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 2: Knicks had in their first two games in this series.

710
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 2: They won them both, but man like, as you said,

711
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 2: this is fast paced, they needed to score north of

712
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Speaker 2: one twenty.

713
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 1: There were controversial calls down the stretch.

714
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 2: This easily could have gotten away from them, and it

715
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 2: feels like it's getting further away. Look, they sit here

716
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 2: too too. They've still got a home court advantage. But

717
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 2: what kind of confidence do you have in them to

718
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 2: win two out of the next three Looking the way

719
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 2: that they look.

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Speaker 1: Right now, Mine is very low. It's very low.

721
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 3: It's very low because you know what they need to do,

722
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 3: you know, And the energy of the Garden is something else.

723
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:04,360
Speaker 3: It's a wonderful place to play for home team and away.

724
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 3: I mean, it's just a magical place. That's why they

725
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 3: call it the Mecha basketball. But it's a lot of pressure,

726
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 3: all right, Knicks fans will turn on you now, they

727
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 3: will turn on you.

728
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Speaker 1: I don't know if they were ever with you to

729
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:19,760
Speaker 1: begin with, you know.

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Speaker 2: Okay, earlier in the hour, we talked about Lebron and

731
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Speaker 2: his son. There's another superstar in his son that needs

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Speaker 2: to inspire a conversation that we'll have next on Fox

733
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Speaker 2: Sports Radio. Like we said, we're gonna be just fitting

734
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Speaker 2: this in wherever it gets in. We're watching the Wolves

735
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Speaker 2: and the Nuggets, taking you.

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Speaker 2: You scar from here?

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00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:10,839
Speaker 1: You be you boy? Are you perfect for this?

745
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 2: Let's talk about in a sports way.

746
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:19,280
Speaker 1: Dads and sons.

747
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 2: Okay, maybe I shouldn't do this on Mother's Day, but

748
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 2: I am.

749
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:28,879
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, hell we're working on Mother's Day, so here

750
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:29,400
Speaker 1: we are.

751
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 2: So this is inspired by some comments that I saw

752
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 2: from Jerry Rice, the Great Jerry Rice. His son, Brendan,

753
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 2: wide receiver at USC was drafted by the San Diego

754
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 2: Chargers of Los Angeles and was a seventh round pick.

755
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 2: Jerry has been very outspoken with regard to that being

756
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 2: somewhat of a snub.

757
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:02,879
Speaker 1: Now.

758
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 2: The twenty two year old Rice Brendan was quoted yesterday

759
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 2: as saying, my dad was hot. You guys get the

760
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:18,320
Speaker 2: flash like the humble dude, right, But with me, he's

761
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:22,760
Speaker 2: like hell no, We're gonna take this to a different level.

762
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:30,439
Speaker 2: These guys gonna feel us Ephraim. I got knocked off

763
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 2: course a little bit by the word us. I got

764
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 2: knocked off course a little bit by the word US there,

765
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 2: and I don't This is why I want your help.

766
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 2: I don't want to act like I got any idea

767
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:48,840
Speaker 2: what it's like to be a pro athlete. Maybe someday

768
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 2: I'll know what it's like to be the dad of

769
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 2: a pro athlete. These three that I got can can

770
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 2: move the ball around a little bit here in different sports.

771
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 1: I doubt it, but who knows.

772
00:43:58,200 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 2: I only say I doubt it, not because I doubt that,

773
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:02,800
Speaker 2: but I know like it's a one in a million shot.

774
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 1: But whatever, that's neither here nor there.

775
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 2: The larger point is, especially when you are one of

776
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 2: the all time greats and your last name is Rice

777
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 2: in football, or your last name is James in the NBA,

778
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 2: I feel like if I were them, I would be

779
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 2: going out of my way to take the pressure and expectation.

780
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 1: Off of the kid, not put it on.

781
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:39,840
Speaker 2: And it feels to me sometimes like Jerry Rice and

782
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:45,720
Speaker 2: Lebron James have made a very very big deal about

783
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 2: the future pro prospects of their sons. I don't know

784
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:56,319
Speaker 2: if that's the best thing for their sons. And I

785
00:44:56,560 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 2: especially had the eyebrows go up with the quote, these

786
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 2: guys are gonna feel us. What exactly is it, Jerry,

787
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 2: that you are going to do with Jim Harbaugh, Justin

788
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 2: Herbert and the San Diego charges of Los Angeles.

789
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 1: What do you think? Uh? Yeah, you know, Look, I

790
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 1: get it.

791
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 3: We understand why Jerry's upset. But Jerry's had experience with

792
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:42,360
Speaker 3: this being underestimated, and so the work ethic is the

793
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 3: work ethic. Being verbal about it doesn't change what you

794
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 3: have to do. It just puts a spotlight on it.

795
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 3: Now people are waiting for you to fail. Probably the

796
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 3: best thing that ever happened to this kid was getting

797
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 3: drafted in the seventh round because the expectation isn't there.

798
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 1: It's not there.

799
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Speaker 3: So you couple that with the expectation of wearing that

800
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 3: name on your back.

801
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Speaker 2: It could be a lot. Yes, it could be a lot,

802
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 2: like crippling a lot. Brendan has an older brother. You

803
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 2: want to know what his name is, Jerry, Jerry Rice Junior.

804
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 2: Want to know what he tried to do for a living? No,

805
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 2: tried to be a wide receiver.

806
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:28,319
Speaker 1: You want to know what it.

807
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:31,399
Speaker 2: Was like, because I've had blessed to have had this

808
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 2: conversation with him. I want to know what it was

809
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:37,760
Speaker 2: like to walk into an NFL locker room and your name.

810
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:44,399
Speaker 1: Is Jerry Rice Junior. Oh, don't worry about that, don't

811
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Speaker 1: try to live up to anything.

812
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 2: Oh goodness, Just be Jerry Rice Junior and be a

813
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Speaker 2: wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: It's a lot. It's a lot.

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Speaker 3: It's a lot, and just in namesake, right, and drive

816
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 3: yourself crazy. But being in a position to where you

817
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 3: have an opportunity to go out and play. He got drafted,

818
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 3: so I think he's in the perfect spot. He's got

819
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:22,879
Speaker 3: a good coach. And oh, by the way, he has

820
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 3: a quarterback he does so all that precision route running hands.

821
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:34,840
Speaker 1: DNA. I thought it was good. I thought he was

822
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 1: a good college player. I did.

823
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 3: Now he has an opportunity to make a name for

824
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 3: himself with lower expectations.

825
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 1: Perfect situation.

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Speaker 3: No need to shine a light on a Jerry because

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Speaker 3: there's no us.

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Speaker 1: It's a hymn. It's a hymn, right, unless you're coming

829
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Speaker 1: out of retirement, which, by the way, I mean he

830
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Speaker 1: probably would like to.

831
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Speaker 2: I mean, if you're not, if you're not a forty

832
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 2: nine er fan, you don't know the guys out there

833
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:14,800
Speaker 2: in a suit running routes before the games every week,

834
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 2: and there's something both awesome about it and at times

835
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 2: a little cringey. It's like, you know, and I know,

836
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Speaker 2: you know what I mean. It's like, ah, Jerry, like

837
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 2: that's cool. Steve Young's in a suit, you're in a suit.

838
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 2: You guys are still throwing routes to each other, but.

839
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:37,919
Speaker 3: Like, it's not your time anymore. It's not your time. Look,

840
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 3: we get it, we understand what it is. It's let

841
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:46,760
Speaker 3: the man. Let the young man live out his dream

842
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 3: through his lands, through his eyes. Don't put that added

843
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 3: pressure of we in us right, are gonna make you

844
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 3: guys pay. Just let him go out there and learn

845
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 3: how to be a pro, and go out there and

846
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 3: like guys with a hundred times more talent than his

847
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 3: son couldn't even come close to his dad. Think about that, right,

848
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 3: Terrell Owens, Larry Fitzgerald, Randy Moss, to name a few.

849
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Speaker 3: So don't don't heap that on him like that, right,

850
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:46,400
Speaker 3: you don't want to do that.

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00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:50,439
Speaker 1: It's not fair to him. You just mentioned an interesting name.

852
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 2: How many of our listeners know that Terrell Owen's son

853
00:49:56,440 --> 00:50:01,280
Speaker 2: also ended up on an NFL roster drafted free agent

854
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 2: grabbed by his former team. One of his former teams,

855
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 2: San Francisco forty nine ers, Tariq Owens. Oh, I missed

856
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:17,840
Speaker 2: Terrell owens press conference where he got mad that his

857
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Speaker 2: son didn't get drafted.

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Speaker 1: I missed that Randy Moss's son. There you go, right,

859
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's like, that's how I do it.

860
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Speaker 2: But I also have no clue what I'm talking about

861
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Speaker 2: in this arena? How what are your what are your boys' names?

862
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 2: Rashid and Elijah Okay? And which one's the old one?

863
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 2: Rashid Rashid Okay? And he's what eleven twelve twelve?

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Speaker 1: Like in.

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Speaker 3: If we get zero interest, I know, I know, let's

866
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Speaker 3: do Eliah.

867
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Speaker 2: Okay told me many times. You tell them that you

868
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:03,360
Speaker 2: play football so they don't have to, So I don't.

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00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 2: I don't expect this. But if they were to get

870
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 2: drafted by the Atlanta Falcons and one of them is

871
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 2: an offensive lineman with the last name Salam, I mean,

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Speaker 2: are you.

873
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:21,240
Speaker 1: Running laps in front of the cameras? No, we are

874
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:22,879
Speaker 1: we're going to take this league.

875
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 3: Over what I mean, if that were the case, they

876
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 3: would be more prepared than any other player going into

877
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 3: training camp. They would be more prepared because they would

878
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 3: have it. I would give them. If they would have everything,

879
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 3: they know exactly what it's like, what they need to

880
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 3: work all of it.

881
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:42,720
Speaker 1: That's easy.

882
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 3: And that's the approach you take as a dad with

883
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:48,840
Speaker 3: the child playing the same position, that's a that's a

884
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 3: that's approach.

885
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:51,400
Speaker 1: Yep, you know.

886
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 3: So for me, look, it's basketball, it's all. It's basketball.

887
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 3: For my youngest phenomenal baseball player. Win the playoffs. By

888
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 3: that we won our first playoff game uh Friday for one.

889
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 3: Just to shout out to Royals.

890
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 2: That's amazing. Congratulations. Right, So on to round two, Round two.

891
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 2: So you know I have an athlete. My oldest wants

892
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:20,400
Speaker 2: to be an engineer. Okay, great, have to be six

893
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:24,319
Speaker 2: nine six six eight engineer. I'm okay with that. Hell

894
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:27,439
Speaker 2: I was six to eight writer. Yeah, so I hope

895
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 2: the only thing about that engineer idea, you know, like

896
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 2: at least the jobs that I have, like those tech engineers,

897
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 2: they gotta they gotta fit in.

898
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:37,320
Speaker 1: All those little spaces.

899
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:40,279
Speaker 2: When he want to be any of those You're not

900
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 2: gonna fit in there.

901
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 1: You won't be fitting in any of those things.

902
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 2: Well, he could be head engineer, he could hire like

903
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:50,840
Speaker 2: he want person he wants to design roller colls and

904
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 2: saying do you do realize that there's gonna be a

905
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 2: come a time where you can't even fit in the

906
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 2: roller calls? He was, Oh, no, no, no, I'm anna design

907
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:03,439
Speaker 2: him for for for people your height. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

908
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 2: Like I don't want anybody getting decapitated because they're they're

909
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:08,279
Speaker 2: seven feet tall.

910
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:08,919
Speaker 1: That's good.

911
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:10,759
Speaker 3: When do we go to Disneyland and all that, You know,

912
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:12,879
Speaker 3: I spend a lot of time waiting outside to ride

913
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 3: for everybody.

914
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:19,239
Speaker 2: Y yes, I would pay money to watch you try

915
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 2: to get in the matter of Bob's loom. That would

916
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 2: be incredible. Gosh. Anyway, I find this fascinating. And by

917
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 2: the way, how do we liken this conversation to the

918
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:40,719
Speaker 2: way lebron has handled it. We can get into that

919
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 2: coming up next with the from salam Mark Willard. This

920
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:49,359
Speaker 2: is five Sports Radio, Okay, Tyrack dot com Studios. That's

921
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:55,240
Speaker 2: e from Salama Mark Willard. So here's my only question.

922
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:57,760
Speaker 2: When we take the conversation we were just having about

923
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 2: Jerry Rice and Rice Lucky Brendan. Apparently he is going

924
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:07,800
Speaker 2: to have a Hall of Fame backpack as he starts

925
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 2: his NFL career because they're gonna feel us, says Jerry.

926
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 2: What about lebron Here's my question. I don't know where

927
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:21,279
Speaker 2: the Bronny situation is going to go. Un Like any

928
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:23,719
Speaker 2: other human being, the idea of a father and a

929
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 2: son playing on the same NBA roster is phenomenal, unbelieved,

930
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:31,399
Speaker 2: It's a phenomenal idea and just like would be an

931
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 2: incredible story. Here's my question though, in watching Bronnie grow

932
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:41,879
Speaker 2: and all that he's been through, which has been a lot,

933
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 2: did we need to know about this in terms of

934
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 2: him wanting to play with his son. Well, look, some

935
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:54,400
Speaker 2: of it's obvious. You would want to play with your

936
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:55,720
Speaker 2: son speaking.

937
00:54:55,560 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 3: Into existence man, Yeah, okay, the power of thought of

938
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:03,320
Speaker 3: putting things into the universe.

939
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:06,400
Speaker 1: But you could do that on your knees next to

940
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 1: your bed at night.

941
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:09,400
Speaker 3: No, No, because the powers that be to make that

942
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 3: happen need to hear it out loud, do they.

943
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:12,720
Speaker 1: Yes?

944
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:16,759
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, yes, he's been able to change coaches

945
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:18,839
Speaker 2: without saying it publicly.

946
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:20,719
Speaker 1: We've already been through this.

947
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 2: He's literally been able to force his will on multiple

948
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:32,400
Speaker 2: organizations his entire career, and the whole thing is built

949
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 2: on plausible deniability, which is only in place because he

950
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 2: doesn't say it out loud. Right, he traded Andrew Wiggins

951
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 2: for Kevin Love. He didn't tell us he was going

952
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 2: to do that, but he did it.

953
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:46,359
Speaker 1: He did it.

954
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 2: So my point is, the kid's name, for God's sakes,

955
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 2: is Brawny. He's in glitzen glamour capital USA, He's the

956
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:05,399
Speaker 2: son of the player of the last two decades. All

957
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 2: of this pressure is inherent, and obviously Lebron would love

958
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 2: to play with him.

959
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 1: But did we need did we need the weekly.

960
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:23,279
Speaker 2: Blow by blow and the plan and the WOJE stories

961
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:26,720
Speaker 2: about how the Lakers are open to play kating Lebron

962
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:31,440
Speaker 2: by drafting, I mean all of it. And again my

963
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 2: only question is did all of this help Bronni? I

964
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 2: get that it helps Lebron.

965
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:44,320
Speaker 3: I definitely it. Look at this point it is possibly

966
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:46,960
Speaker 3: going to get him drafted when he's nowhere near ready

967
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:47,719
Speaker 3: to be drafted.

968
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:51,799
Speaker 1: So is that good for him? I mean, is that

969
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 1: good for his career?

970
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 2: Because he's also allowed to go play three more years

971
00:56:57,200 --> 00:57:00,040
Speaker 2: of college basketball, And I could make the case.

972
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:02,759
Speaker 3: I would say it would be better for him to

973
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 3: go play. But I mean, when you look at it

974
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 3: like I mean I would, I would suspect unless he

975
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 3: figured to be a lottery pick at some point, which

976
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:24,640
Speaker 3: is probably two three years away, and if you're in

977
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 3: college for two or three more years making it three

978
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 3: or four, Yeah, not gonna be a lottery pick, just fy.

979
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 1: That's there's no maybe not senior. You're right, You're you're right.

980
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 3: So if he's not a one and done, a diaper

981
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 3: dandy this and that, getting to the league as quick

982
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 3: as possible whenever you can, then yeah, you take that approach.

983
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 3: And that's the bottom line because outside of that lottery pick,

984
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 3: the top fifteen, hey man, and even I would say

985
00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 3: outside of the top ten. Right, the NBA is such

986
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 3: a different animal than the NFL. Oh completely, there's no

987
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 3: special teams in the NBA right there, Like you can't

988
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:17,400
Speaker 3: get your career started on special teams, right and make

989
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:21,840
Speaker 3: a name for yourself and be like Slater who played

990
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 3: for nineteen years and fifteen of them we're all pro

991
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:29,960
Speaker 3: special teams, right, Like you can't. You can't hide in

992
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 3: the NBA. And so at this point, if he's not

993
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:38,120
Speaker 3: going to be one of those lottery picks, then get

994
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 3: him to the league as soon as possible, because the

995
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 3: longers he's in college, the further away from a viable

996
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 3: lottery pick he becomes.

997
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:50,480
Speaker 1: So what's the difference? Does that make sense? It makes sense?

998
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:53,439
Speaker 2: But I don't know that you and I can sit

999
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:58,919
Speaker 2: here and answer the idea that, like, so Lebron wants

1000
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:01,080
Speaker 2: to play with this kid, right, has anyone ever.

1001
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 1: Asked his kid? Do you with your dad? Has anybody

1002
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:10,040
Speaker 1: ever asked him? I'm sure why would with your dad? Well,

1003
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 1: and there there you go.

1004
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:15,479
Speaker 2: Would you get a genuine answer even if you did

1005
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 2: ask him that, because we assume, but you're a dad,

1006
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:22,440
Speaker 2: I'm a dad. They're going to get to a certain

1007
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:24,320
Speaker 2: point where they're like, you know what, I actually don't

1008
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:26,400
Speaker 2: want to just like follow you all over the place.

1009
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:30,160
Speaker 2: And and I think I could easily make the case

1010
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 2: that it's at least worth discussion that I haven't heard yet,

1011
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:39,960
Speaker 2: that maybe this isn't the best thing for Brownie's career,

1012
00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 2: and not about draft status or or the money that comes.

1013
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:52,040
Speaker 2: But a man needs more seasoning Like it looks as

1014
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:55,320
Speaker 2: clear as day to me, and we're all hell bent

1015
00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:57,520
Speaker 2: on well, but they need to play together. It's like

1016
00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:02,400
Speaker 2: nobody has stopped to go what happens? Then they play together,

1017
01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:03,840
Speaker 2: and then Lebron leaves?

1018
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:05,760
Speaker 1: Now what now.

1019
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:09,919
Speaker 2: Bronni is sitting there, he's twenty, he's not good, he's

1020
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:10,600
Speaker 2: not ready.

1021
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:12,320
Speaker 1: We achieved our goal.

1022
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:17,760
Speaker 2: Off, Lebron goes into the sunset and Bronni does what like,

1023
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:21,120
Speaker 2: I'd probably suggest you should go back to college. Now

1024
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 2: you should go play there. Yeah, you're not allowed to

1025
01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 2: do that. So that's my only question. Are we so

1026
01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:31,200
Speaker 2: hell bent on the cool story and the celebrity that

1027
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 2: is Lebron that we're forgetting to ask what's actually best

1028
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:36,160
Speaker 2: for the kid.

1029
01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:40,760
Speaker 1: Look, I think.

1030
01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:47,360
Speaker 3: Bronnie would benefit from being on an NBA roster with

1031
01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 3: his dad, one of the greatest to ever play, the

1032
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:55,280
Speaker 3: work ethic, just being able to learn from one of

1033
01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:59,720
Speaker 3: the greatest top three greatest players ever to play, that's invaluable.

1034
01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:05,560
Speaker 3: Be on the road to understand what that's like, to

1035
01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:10,959
Speaker 3: deal with the things that come with being a pro,

1036
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:16,800
Speaker 3: and having your pops, who's cool by the way, be

1037
01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:19,320
Speaker 3: along that journey for at least a year with you.

1038
01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:22,640
Speaker 3: I think there's nothing but a benefit to have that.

1039
01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:27,080
Speaker 1: I hear you.

1040
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:31,200
Speaker 2: That's just my thoughts. Everybody and I get it, But

1041
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:33,800
Speaker 2: I don't want to act like a I know the

1042
01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:36,160
Speaker 2: dynamic there. I don't want to act like I know

1043
01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:40,320
Speaker 2: what Bronni is emotionally and mentally ready for I mean,

1044
01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:42,959
Speaker 2: the very first thing you said about all this, which

1045
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:47,360
Speaker 2: I wholeheartedly agree with, is that carrying that name around

1046
01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:51,800
Speaker 2: and playing the same sport is a lot so not okay.

1047
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:54,200
Speaker 2: So now we're not going to just carry it around

1048
01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:56,840
Speaker 2: with us. We're going to go be next to it

1049
01:01:57,920 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 2: and be measured by it. And then we get to

1050
01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:06,360
Speaker 2: do that maybe for a year, and then and then

1051
01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:08,959
Speaker 2: he doesn't get to be in his father's locker room.

1052
01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:15,840
Speaker 2: His father will be in row two eating popcorn, checking

1053
01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:18,960
Speaker 2: it all out, And and where's Brownie?

1054
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:20,200
Speaker 1: Like?

1055
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:26,960
Speaker 2: High likelihood he from? Still not ready? Is what I is?

1056
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:28,480
Speaker 2: What the likelihood is?

1057
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:34,480
Speaker 1: Ready? Are you ready for? Ready for the show? Yeah?

1058
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:37,640
Speaker 3: But I mean but what at what aspect? What would

1059
01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:40,960
Speaker 3: ready to start? Ready to come home? No brand play

1060
01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:42,880
Speaker 3: three four minutes a game?

1061
01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:46,480
Speaker 2: Look, go look at minor league baseball, and and you

1062
01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:50,600
Speaker 2: know baseball your son is a baseball player. There there

1063
01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:55,919
Speaker 2: are reasons why highly touted prospects. You don't just call

1064
01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:59,080
Speaker 2: him up like your team might be in last place. Well,

1065
01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:01,960
Speaker 2: why don't we just all our kids up? Let him play?

1066
01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:02,400
Speaker 1: Why not?

1067
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:06,120
Speaker 2: Because when you go to the show and you're not ready,

1068
01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:09,440
Speaker 2: it messes with you and it can ruin you. And

1069
01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:12,439
Speaker 2: Bronni is not ready. I don't know if he ever

1070
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:15,360
Speaker 2: will be, but my god, if there's one thing clear

1071
01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:19,600
Speaker 2: in this story, he's not ready. So my question is

1072
01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:24,120
Speaker 2: what's the motivation to rush him there when we know

1073
01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:26,840
Speaker 2: he's not ready? And I have a hard time believing

1074
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:31,040
Speaker 2: any answer that doesn't start and end with we're rushing

1075
01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:35,280
Speaker 2: him there because that's what lebron wants. I get it, which,

1076
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:38,400
Speaker 2: by the way, is the answer to everything around this guy.

1077
01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:41,080
Speaker 1: But what if Bronni wants that as well?

1078
01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:43,640
Speaker 2: Well? But you don't, like, you don't just get to

1079
01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:50,760
Speaker 2: go pro because because you're not ready.

1080
01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:56,080
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I'm watching this Minnesota game, right Paul ANTHONYE.

1081
01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:59,520
Speaker 3: Towns get he falls, Rudy Loburr comes over to help

1082
01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:04,880
Speaker 3: him up. He falls on top of Look, now they're

1083
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:07,520
Speaker 3: both everybody's He's like, wait, wait, wait, let me help you,

1084
01:04:07,600 --> 01:04:09,520
Speaker 3: let me oh slip he Oh my.

1085
01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:13,520
Speaker 2: Goodness he Rudy is cleaning the floor with his butt.

1086
01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:17,120
Speaker 2: They're fine, they're just tired. They're just getting their butts kicked.

1087
01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:17,680
Speaker 2: That's what's time.

1088
01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:20,560
Speaker 1: You Look. Look, they came out the second half on fire.

1089
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:24,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, four threes in a row, but they can't get

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Speaker 3: any stops.

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01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:26,880
Speaker 1: Rudy's knee buckled.

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01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:30,160
Speaker 3: They can't get any stops. So they're scoring, but they

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01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:31,400
Speaker 3: can't get any stops.

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Speaker 1: Yep, yep. Down by sixteen seven to fifteen to go.

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Speaker 1: Third quarter.

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Speaker 2: But we didn't need to tell you that because here's

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01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:42,080
Speaker 2: Nick Cope. He's gonna tell you all about everything that's

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01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:44,640
Speaker 2: going on on another busy Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Hey, Nick, what's up? What's going on?

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Speaker 3: Guys?

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01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:48,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, not getting stops is the name of the game.

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01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:51,800
Speaker 6: Remember Minnesota's defense getting all kinds of love early on

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01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:55,040
Speaker 6: in this series. But Denver has been shooting near seventy

1104
01:04:55,160 --> 01:04:58,320
Speaker 6: percent the entire game. They dipped down a little bit

1105
01:04:58,400 --> 01:05:01,840
Speaker 6: currently at sixty four percent. So that's why they've got

1106
01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:05,520
Speaker 6: an eighty one sixty six lead in Minneapolis. Approaching the

1107
01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:08,880
Speaker 6: midway point of the third quarter. Aaron Gordon has twenty

1108
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:12,360
Speaker 6: one points to lead the Nuggets. Nikoley Jokich with nineteen

1109
01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:15,800
Speaker 6: point six boards, six assists. Jamal Murray has poured in

1110
01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:18,840
Speaker 6: seventeen as well, and it was Murray who had the

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01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:22,520
Speaker 6: fifty five foot buzzer beater at the end of the

1112
01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:23,120
Speaker 6: first half.

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01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:24,800
Speaker 1: Loose Paul Jokich.

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01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:30,560
Speaker 7: Front court quarter two heads, Denver dropped sixty one UF Minnesota.

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01:05:30,680 --> 01:05:31,240
Speaker 1: They throw it.

1116
01:05:31,240 --> 01:05:33,120
Speaker 2: Away very three.

1117
01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:37,800
Speaker 7: Ye oh my god from behind the half court line.

1118
01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:42,480
Speaker 7: Everybody's falling a slate except for being Jabal Murray.

1119
01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:47,200
Speaker 6: Heye knocked that DG Home Altitude Radio network on the call.

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01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:49,600
Speaker 6: So it was a seven point game with less than

1121
01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:51,080
Speaker 6: a minute to go in the first half, but that

1122
01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:54,840
Speaker 6: sequence crucial. Denver scored eight points in the final thirty

1123
01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:58,560
Speaker 6: three seconds and they have continued to surge offensively, still

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01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:03,240
Speaker 6: leading by fifteen midway through the third quarter. Earlier, Yeah,

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Speaker 6: the Pacers defeating the Knicks one twenty one to eighty nine.

1126
01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:08,720
Speaker 6: That series now town at two to two heading back

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01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:11,640
Speaker 6: to New York. Tyres Hall Burton scored a team nine

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01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:15,000
Speaker 6: twenty points. Ojan and nobyfore the Knicks missed the second

1129
01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:18,200
Speaker 6: straight game with a hamstring injury. Atlanta Hawks won the

1130
01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:21,400
Speaker 6: NBA Draft lottery for the first time in franchise history,

1131
01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:24,360
Speaker 6: despite just having a three percent chance to do it.

1132
01:06:24,760 --> 01:06:29,440
Speaker 6: The Wizards will pick second, Rockets, third Spurs. Fourth Stanley

1133
01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:32,760
Speaker 6: Cup Playoffs, Game four between the Panthers and the Bruins

1134
01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:35,600
Speaker 6: has wrapped. Boston had a two to zero lead after

1135
01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:39,720
Speaker 6: the first period, but Florida came storming back. Now they

1136
01:06:39,720 --> 01:06:42,080
Speaker 6: puck rolled on by bark Obb into the slot makes

1137
01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:42,640
Speaker 6: the most.

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01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:45,720
Speaker 8: Shutty stores Darkhub win a movement on that, and he's

1139
01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:48,000
Speaker 8: able to give the Panthers their first lead to the

1140
01:06:48,040 --> 01:06:50,400
Speaker 8: game twelve. Putting on to go in the third, quark

1141
01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:54,400
Speaker 8: Up got throw everyone himmy swimming and the captain right

1142
01:06:54,560 --> 01:06:55,560
Speaker 8: the two to two tie.

1143
01:06:55,760 --> 01:06:58,680
Speaker 6: HiT's three to two Panthers here in the third, five

1144
01:06:58,720 --> 01:07:01,640
Speaker 6: to sixties Forts, they'll be qam. They're on the call.

1145
01:07:01,720 --> 01:07:04,600
Speaker 6: Alexander Barkoff the game winner. Panthers hold on three to

1146
01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:06,720
Speaker 6: two the final. They take a three to one series

1147
01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:09,320
Speaker 6: lead on the Bruins. Got the Canucks at the Oilers.

1148
01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:11,680
Speaker 6: Game three of that series tight at one apiece. That's

1149
01:07:11,720 --> 01:07:15,520
Speaker 6: coming up momentarily. In baseball, Braves and Mets still battling

1150
01:07:15,560 --> 01:07:17,720
Speaker 6: Atlanta with a three to two lead and they're at

1151
01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:20,439
Speaker 6: the plate in the top of the eighth inning. Brad

1152
01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:23,520
Speaker 6: Kislowski won the NASCAR Cup Series race at Darlington and

1153
01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:25,680
Speaker 6: Roy McElroy won at Quell Hollo.

1154
01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:29,919
Speaker 1: Guys, back to you, Nick, great stuff. Appreciate you all

1155
01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:31,200
Speaker 1: for all of that.

1156
01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:35,320
Speaker 2: Mark willard E from salam Our Tea Wolves Nuggets watch party,

1157
01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:37,120
Speaker 2: the Tea Wolves are still trying to hang in this

1158
01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:41,800
Speaker 2: thing and beautiful shot there by at a second ago,

1159
01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:44,280
Speaker 2: they've got it to thirteen. I was thinking about this

1160
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:46,400
Speaker 2: and for those of you who aren't watching the game

1161
01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:51,680
Speaker 2: half court plus buzzer beater by Jamal Murray, keep his

1162
01:07:51,880 --> 01:07:53,040
Speaker 2: name in the back of your mind.

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01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:54,760
Speaker 1: As you answer this question. Do you have any issue

1164
01:07:55,560 --> 01:07:58,400
Speaker 1: with Nikola Jokic being named MVP of the league? No

1165
01:07:58,880 --> 01:08:01,720
Speaker 1: best playing the league? Okay, okay.

1166
01:08:02,560 --> 01:08:06,440
Speaker 2: The only interesting point I heard against it, and I

1167
01:08:06,520 --> 01:08:08,600
Speaker 2: hadn't thought of this before because I had no issue

1168
01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:09,040
Speaker 2: with it either.

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01:08:09,120 --> 01:08:09,720
Speaker 1: I agree with you.

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01:08:09,840 --> 01:08:12,480
Speaker 2: I think he has an unbelievable effect on so many

1171
01:08:12,600 --> 01:08:16,559
Speaker 2: so this is sort of an unfair way of looking

1172
01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:21,240
Speaker 2: at it from one angle. But we know in the

1173
01:08:21,400 --> 01:08:27,519
Speaker 2: NBA people get very very triggered if the best player

1174
01:08:28,400 --> 01:08:30,320
Speaker 2: doesn't shoot the last shot.

1175
01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:39,120
Speaker 1: Remember everything Lebron went through because he passed. He passed

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01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:41,200
Speaker 1: in big moments at times.

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01:08:41,680 --> 01:08:44,920
Speaker 2: Of course, as is the case with everything Michael Jordan related,

1178
01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:47,519
Speaker 2: we just forget the stuff that we don't want to

1179
01:08:47,560 --> 01:08:50,920
Speaker 2: talk about because I remember Steve Kerr and Jim Paxson

1180
01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:55,240
Speaker 2: hitting shots too, which means Michael Jordan passed the.

1181
01:08:55,320 --> 01:08:55,920
Speaker 1: Ball to them.

1182
01:08:56,400 --> 01:09:00,320
Speaker 2: But this kind of really was given rise during the

1183
01:09:00,439 --> 01:09:04,120
Speaker 2: Kobe era. It was just like that Mamba mentality thing

1184
01:09:04,320 --> 01:09:07,080
Speaker 2: was like, if you're that dude, you have got to

1185
01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:07,800
Speaker 2: take the shot.

1186
01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:10,760
Speaker 1: I don't care if you force it. You got to

1187
01:09:10,800 --> 01:09:12,000
Speaker 1: take the shot and hit the shot.

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01:09:13,080 --> 01:09:15,519
Speaker 2: So some of the NBA brethren are looking at Nicola

1189
01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:17,719
Speaker 2: Jokics and they're going, how can you be the MVP

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01:09:18,479 --> 01:09:22,000
Speaker 2: when there's a tie game and there's ten seconds left?

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01:09:22,240 --> 01:09:24,080
Speaker 1: Y'all put the hands the ball in the hands of

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01:09:24,120 --> 01:09:24,799
Speaker 1: Jamal Murray.

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01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:30,559
Speaker 3: The funny part is those same people neglect to look

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01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:36,519
Speaker 3: at the thirty eight, fifteen and twelve stat line for

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01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:37,599
Speaker 3: the final shot.

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01:09:38,439 --> 01:09:39,800
Speaker 1: Get out of here with that man.

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01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:49,160
Speaker 3: That hell's no bearing whatsoever, Oh's no bearing whatsoever. He's

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01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:52,680
Speaker 3: a walking triple double as one of the highest IQ's

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01:09:53,360 --> 01:09:56,680
Speaker 3: on the basketball court and there's nothing he can't do.

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01:09:58,160 --> 01:10:01,080
Speaker 3: The offense runs through him. He's a in a time

1201
01:10:01,160 --> 01:10:07,479
Speaker 3: where no other team has that, no other team centers

1202
01:10:07,479 --> 01:10:13,200
Speaker 3: don't even getting drafted. I talked about it earlier. Is

1203
01:10:13,240 --> 01:10:16,080
Speaker 3: that idiot two time player a year. But that's part

1204
01:10:16,120 --> 01:10:18,920
Speaker 3: Drew Timmy two times player a year. Where's Drew Timmy

1205
01:10:19,680 --> 01:10:25,080
Speaker 3: is g League? He's playing for the wing bats. He

1206
01:10:25,240 --> 01:10:27,720
Speaker 3: wishes he's playing for the wing Bats. You know what

1207
01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:28,120
Speaker 3: I'm saying.

1208
01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:28,840
Speaker 1: So it's like.

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01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:34,680
Speaker 3: At a time where the center position has been removed,

1210
01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:38,240
Speaker 3: they don't even but they don't even label it for

1211
01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:39,160
Speaker 3: All Stars anymore.

1212
01:10:39,160 --> 01:10:43,840
Speaker 1: They're just well, that's right, right, right, it's literally been removed.

1213
01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:45,040
Speaker 1: Well except for that.

1214
01:10:45,160 --> 01:10:48,080
Speaker 2: I you're you're right, But I sort of felt like

1215
01:10:48,160 --> 01:10:51,400
Speaker 2: in the last couple of years, led by Nicola Jokicic,

1216
01:10:51,960 --> 01:10:55,360
Speaker 2: the center position is kind of a thing. Again, look

1217
01:10:55,400 --> 01:10:57,639
Speaker 2: at what the te Wolves are doing. Don't forget about

1218
01:10:57,720 --> 01:11:00,599
Speaker 2: Joe l Embiid. He won this award last year.

1219
01:11:01,240 --> 01:11:03,639
Speaker 1: Okay, so let me ask you a question.

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01:11:04,040 --> 01:11:07,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, no other center in the league plays more with

1221
01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:10,439
Speaker 3: their back to the basket than the Joker in terms

1222
01:11:10,479 --> 01:11:12,519
Speaker 3: of jumping it down to him in the post. When

1223
01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:15,960
Speaker 3: I say center, that's what I mean, Karl Anthony Towns shooting.

1224
01:11:16,200 --> 01:11:18,280
Speaker 3: They don't even pass the ball to Rudy Gobert when

1225
01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:21,360
Speaker 3: he's open under there, which I think is a mistake.

1226
01:11:22,040 --> 01:11:25,439
Speaker 3: I think, so this is well, listen, this is what happens,

1227
01:11:25,479 --> 01:11:28,439
Speaker 3: and this is what I've been watching. A good friend

1228
01:11:28,479 --> 01:11:30,479
Speaker 3: of mine is on that coaching staff, so I'm going

1229
01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:38,160
Speaker 3: back and forth with him. When the Joker's garden, Rudy

1230
01:11:38,200 --> 01:11:43,439
Speaker 3: Gobert and Anthony Edwards comes across and the Joker is

1231
01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:46,120
Speaker 3: now they have Rudy at the high post. Then the

1232
01:11:46,240 --> 01:11:49,880
Speaker 3: Joker comes out and double teams the ball. Rudy dives

1233
01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:52,120
Speaker 3: to the basket. You'll see him waving his hands all

1234
01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:53,599
Speaker 3: the time you watch the game. You'll see him doing

1235
01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:56,080
Speaker 3: it seven eight nine times a game, just waving his hands.

1236
01:11:57,000 --> 01:11:59,200
Speaker 3: They don't throw him the ball. What that does not

1237
01:11:59,320 --> 01:12:01,240
Speaker 3: throwing the balls, he can turn around and shoot the

1238
01:12:01,280 --> 01:12:03,320
Speaker 3: ball even though he's standing under the rim. He's seven

1239
01:12:03,320 --> 01:12:06,400
Speaker 3: to one, right. But what it does is it forces

1240
01:12:06,479 --> 01:12:12,560
Speaker 3: the defense to rotate. If you don't use him, and

1241
01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:16,680
Speaker 3: you don't force the defense to rotate, then you're just

1242
01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:22,040
Speaker 3: getting double teamed and You're not allowing anyone else to

1243
01:12:22,120 --> 01:12:25,280
Speaker 3: get open, right, you throw it to Rudy, Rudy turns,

1244
01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:29,560
Speaker 3: the wing defender collapses, Rudy kicks it out for the

1245
01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:33,200
Speaker 3: open three. He's there underneath the rim for the rebound.

1246
01:12:33,720 --> 01:12:38,200
Speaker 3: That is basketball. It works at any age. That's the

1247
01:12:38,360 --> 01:12:41,840
Speaker 3: problem with not throwing the ball down to the wide

1248
01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:44,120
Speaker 3: open center in the middle of the lane when his

1249
01:12:44,320 --> 01:12:46,760
Speaker 3: man comes to double above the three point line.

1250
01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:49,240
Speaker 1: Does that make sense? I try to tell everybody you

1251
01:12:49,320 --> 01:12:53,040
Speaker 1: could coach the Lakers. I mean, but.

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01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:58,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no, you makes sense. So I'm Rudy's not

1253
01:12:58,760 --> 01:13:01,800
Speaker 3: a dominant, get the post, put you in the rim.

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01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:04,400
Speaker 1: He's not the job. He's an odd player. He's an

1255
01:13:04,439 --> 01:13:04,920
Speaker 1: odd player.

1256
01:13:06,280 --> 01:13:09,400
Speaker 3: But what happens is, even if he turns to take

1257
01:13:09,479 --> 01:13:14,200
Speaker 3: that shot, the small guard guarding the weak side wing

1258
01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:18,840
Speaker 3: is going to foul him. If anything, you can get

1259
01:13:18,920 --> 01:13:25,360
Speaker 3: the team in the penalty early in the quarter. All

1260
01:13:25,439 --> 01:13:28,840
Speaker 3: of these things help you. But you not passing him

1261
01:13:28,880 --> 01:13:31,960
Speaker 3: the ball and waiting for the joker to go back

1262
01:13:32,040 --> 01:13:35,360
Speaker 3: to find him. That's not doing anything. You're not You're

1263
01:13:35,400 --> 01:13:42,120
Speaker 3: not You're not making the other team pay for for

1264
01:13:43,040 --> 01:13:45,320
Speaker 3: forcing a double team above the three point line, that's

1265
01:13:45,400 --> 01:13:45,960
Speaker 3: crazy to me.

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01:13:46,520 --> 01:13:49,800
Speaker 2: You said earlier that the NBA Playoffs are about adjustments,

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01:13:49,880 --> 01:13:52,840
Speaker 2: and it's very obvious in watching these first four games

1268
01:13:52,920 --> 01:13:57,600
Speaker 2: that the Nuggets have made adjustments and the Timberwolves have not.

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01:13:57,640 --> 01:13:59,280
Speaker 1: Been able to evolve out of them yet.

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01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:02,360
Speaker 2: As if he yeah, we'll see if they can get

1271
01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:05,120
Speaker 2: it going here in this last quarter and a half,

1272
01:14:05,160 --> 01:14:06,960
Speaker 2: because both of you and I agree that if they don't,

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01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:09,240
Speaker 2: they're probably going to lose this series, which would be

1274
01:14:09,320 --> 01:14:12,320
Speaker 2: shocking after the way it started. But more on that

1275
01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:15,200
Speaker 2: coming up, Because I think most of us started these

1276
01:14:15,320 --> 01:14:18,640
Speaker 2: NBA playoffs largely thinking that one of two teams was

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01:14:18,720 --> 01:14:19,439
Speaker 2: going to win it all.

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01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:22,360
Speaker 1: That number has grown to what.

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01:14:23,160 --> 01:14:26,040
Speaker 2: We'll fill that in coming up next with Everam Salam,

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01:14:26,120 --> 01:14:30,800
Speaker 2: Mark Willard, Fox Sports Radio, LIVENTHETIRAG dot Com Studios. If

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01:14:30,840 --> 01:14:38,360
Speaker 2: I threw this at you, what would you pick? Nuggets, Celtics.

1282
01:14:39,600 --> 01:14:44,040
Speaker 1: Or Field? What would you pay Nugget Celtics.

1283
01:14:47,320 --> 01:14:50,080
Speaker 2: I think that's where most of us were before the

1284
01:14:50,120 --> 01:14:57,599
Speaker 2: playoffs started, most of us. But now the Timberwolves winning

1285
01:14:57,640 --> 01:15:01,920
Speaker 2: these first two games in Denver or has has at

1286
01:15:02,000 --> 01:15:06,840
Speaker 2: least momentarily changed that. We'll see if we'll see if

1287
01:15:06,880 --> 01:15:08,559
Speaker 2: they can make a run here in the fourth quarter.

1288
01:15:09,200 --> 01:15:11,920
Speaker 2: They've got it within striking distance. It's not likely, but

1289
01:15:12,200 --> 01:15:14,640
Speaker 2: it's not out of the question that they still win

1290
01:15:14,720 --> 01:15:17,160
Speaker 2: this game and go up three to one, but certainly

1291
01:15:17,320 --> 01:15:20,519
Speaker 2: enter the tea Wolves into the party. I think you've

1292
01:15:20,600 --> 01:15:24,400
Speaker 2: got to take notice at least of the Dallas Mavericks,

1293
01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:27,719
Speaker 2: and I'm not giving up on Oklahoma City.

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01:15:27,760 --> 01:15:30,960
Speaker 1: I know they're babies, but they're good babies.

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01:15:34,040 --> 01:15:37,000
Speaker 2: I put it this way, before the playoffs started, I

1296
01:15:37,120 --> 01:15:43,960
Speaker 2: pretty much thought Nuggets or Celtics, and now as injuries unfold, Porzingis,

1297
01:15:46,520 --> 01:15:48,919
Speaker 2: the landscape of the league starts to unfold.

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01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:53,720
Speaker 1: Like I've now opened it up to at.

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01:15:53,760 --> 01:15:57,760
Speaker 2: Least as many as four teams maybe more, who have

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01:15:58,360 --> 01:15:59,920
Speaker 2: a real puncher's chance at winning this.

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01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:07,240
Speaker 3: Thing if Porzingis comes back, And as much as it

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Speaker 3: pains me to say this, the Celtics, I think if

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01:16:11,479 --> 01:16:23,479
Speaker 3: he doesn't come back, then it'll probably be the winner

1304
01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:33,240
Speaker 3: of this series that we're watching now, Minnesota, Denver. I

1305
01:16:33,360 --> 01:16:39,040
Speaker 3: think the road in the West is considerably harder than

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01:16:39,080 --> 01:16:41,600
Speaker 3: in the East, and so.

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Speaker 6: I just.

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Speaker 3: In my opinion, I think whoever comes out of the

1309
01:16:48,160 --> 01:16:55,360
Speaker 3: West has a better opportunity to win the NBA Finals.

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01:16:57,760 --> 01:17:02,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you're right. I think you're right.

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01:17:02,360 --> 01:17:04,599
Speaker 2: I really if you had made me pick one team

1312
01:17:05,720 --> 01:17:08,680
Speaker 2: go back a month, I would have said, I think

1313
01:17:08,720 --> 01:17:13,160
Speaker 2: this is the year for Boston. But yeah, the the

1314
01:17:13,320 --> 01:17:19,519
Speaker 2: injuries and the road that gets traveled here, ech, I'm

1315
01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:22,519
Speaker 2: definitely starting to waiver on that. And you look at

1316
01:17:22,520 --> 01:17:25,080
Speaker 2: the four teams in the West, and all of them

1317
01:17:26,080 --> 01:17:27,639
Speaker 2: are a formidable task.

1318
01:17:28,160 --> 01:17:31,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, they can go because they have size and.

1319
01:17:34,520 --> 01:17:37,519
Speaker 3: Rim attackers, right of size, shooting and the ability to

1320
01:17:38,200 --> 01:17:41,160
Speaker 3: get in the lane and get any shot there on.

1321
01:17:41,320 --> 01:17:45,160
Speaker 3: I mean that's a that's a dynamic recipe for success.

1322
01:17:45,600 --> 01:17:47,160
Speaker 3: And you look at the remaining teams in the West,

1323
01:17:47,200 --> 01:17:47,760
Speaker 3: they all have them.

1324
01:17:49,479 --> 01:17:50,040
Speaker 1: They all have them.

1325
01:17:50,120 --> 01:17:52,679
Speaker 3: You look at what's going on in the East. There's

1326
01:17:52,720 --> 01:18:00,600
Speaker 3: no real size outside of I mean porzingis right and

1327
01:18:00,680 --> 01:18:03,679
Speaker 3: he's not and and beat is gone gone.

1328
01:18:04,280 --> 01:18:08,519
Speaker 1: No real length there. The Knicks have zero none. No,

1329
01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:09,240
Speaker 1: the Knicks.

1330
01:18:09,360 --> 01:18:12,080
Speaker 2: The Knicks are the Knicks are an amazing story, right, Like,

1331
01:18:12,320 --> 01:18:14,360
Speaker 2: so it's not it's not their time, no, No.

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01:18:15,800 --> 01:18:18,040
Speaker 3: I mean the crazy part is if they would have

1333
01:18:18,240 --> 01:18:23,120
Speaker 3: still had Obi topping, it would have been a better

1334
01:18:23,240 --> 01:18:26,000
Speaker 3: situation for him. I mean, I mean it's been he's

1335
01:18:26,040 --> 01:18:30,880
Speaker 3: been tremendous for uh Indiana. It's been great.

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Speaker 1: Yep, yep. Well the Anonobe thing is also Yeah, that's.

1337
01:18:36,400 --> 01:18:39,080
Speaker 3: A hamstring too, so that no matter what you I

1338
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Speaker 3: don't know if you know our listeners out there have

1339
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Speaker 3: a pooled your hamstring. Hey man, that thing could take

1340
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Speaker 3: a month.

1341
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Speaker 1: Here's what I know about hamstrings.

1342
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Speaker 2: The second you're like, okay, it's all better, it is

1343
01:18:54,240 --> 01:18:56,200
Speaker 2: not take off at full speed.

1344
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Speaker 1: It's gone talk to me on the sixth step on

1345
01:19:00,400 --> 01:19:04,599
Speaker 1: the city. Oh no, it's back. Yeah, man, those are hard.

1346
01:19:04,640 --> 01:19:07,320
Speaker 1: And so he's not sup. He obviously didn't play today.

1347
01:19:07,520 --> 01:19:10,479
Speaker 2: He's very unlikely for game five, but we're acting like

1348
01:19:10,600 --> 01:19:12,599
Speaker 2: and that means maybe he'll be back for game six.

1349
01:19:12,760 --> 01:19:15,360
Speaker 2: I don't know that I buy that. And by the way,

1350
01:19:15,520 --> 01:19:19,640
Speaker 2: if they lose game five, this thing, this thing might

1351
01:19:19,840 --> 01:19:23,600
Speaker 2: end really fast. This thing might end really fast for the.

1352
01:19:23,680 --> 01:19:26,800
Speaker 3: Next Yeah, it's I mean to put all of that

1353
01:19:26,920 --> 01:19:32,160
Speaker 3: on the shoulders of how tall is Bronson six one show? Yeah,

1354
01:19:32,320 --> 01:19:37,679
Speaker 3: to put all that on his shoulders, he's hobbled. That's

1355
01:19:37,720 --> 01:19:41,880
Speaker 3: a lot, you know, And look, de Vincenzo has been

1356
01:19:42,200 --> 01:19:47,799
Speaker 3: the you know, Villanova knicks have been amazing they've been amazing.

1357
01:19:49,880 --> 01:19:54,120
Speaker 3: But when you got to hit every shot you get,

1358
01:19:54,200 --> 01:19:57,240
Speaker 3: you get nothing at the rim. Really, that's a tough

1359
01:19:57,320 --> 01:20:05,880
Speaker 3: way to live because inevitably, everybody's not gonna beyond you

1360
01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:09,160
Speaker 3: know what I mean, everybody's not gonna beyond Like and

1361
01:20:09,240 --> 01:20:13,800
Speaker 3: I'm just watching, you know, Nikola Jokic right now in

1362
01:20:13,960 --> 01:20:18,280
Speaker 3: the post assert himself over the defensive player of the year.

1363
01:20:19,160 --> 01:20:22,320
Speaker 3: That's the problem you're going to have. Is that going

1364
01:20:22,400 --> 01:20:26,680
Speaker 3: to be Porzingis or Al Harrington if these two meet

1365
01:20:26,760 --> 01:20:27,439
Speaker 3: in the finals?

1366
01:20:28,560 --> 01:20:32,160
Speaker 1: Good luck with that? Good luck? Yeah, no, you know,

1367
01:20:32,240 --> 01:20:34,160
Speaker 1: Porzingis don't want nothing to do with the paint.

1368
01:20:35,040 --> 01:20:36,960
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter even if he wanted it, And not

1369
01:20:37,479 --> 01:20:39,120
Speaker 2: a damn thing he could do about this guy.

1370
01:20:39,360 --> 01:20:42,400
Speaker 3: So he got two seven footers in the starting lineup

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01:20:42,680 --> 01:20:49,080
Speaker 3: for Minnesota, plus six ' nine wing, six nine wing

1372
01:20:49,320 --> 01:20:55,479
Speaker 3: and a six ' five rim assaulter. Her and the

1373
01:20:55,600 --> 01:20:58,160
Speaker 3: struggling Big Time.

1374
01:20:58,400 --> 01:21:01,080
Speaker 2: We will take you, however, through the fourth quarter of

1375
01:21:01,160 --> 01:21:04,600
Speaker 2: this game. Lots still to go, long way to go

1376
01:21:04,720 --> 01:21:09,360
Speaker 2: with this one. But the NFL is next. The importance

1377
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Speaker 2: of a wide receiver. You'll be interested by these numbers,

1378
01:21:12,680 --> 01:21:17,960
Speaker 2: will share them next down the stretch they come and

1379
01:21:18,000 --> 01:21:20,520
Speaker 2: the Nuggets are still up by twelve nine.

1380
01:21:20,600 --> 01:21:21,200
Speaker 1: Minutes to go.

1381
01:21:21,560 --> 01:21:24,320
Speaker 2: And every time Minnesota does a little pump fake like

1382
01:21:24,439 --> 01:21:27,640
Speaker 2: we're coming for you, Jokis just has the answer. Man,

1383
01:21:27,760 --> 01:21:30,439
Speaker 2: it's just too much, but we'll see. Still plenty of

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Speaker 2: buying should be in the midst of all of this basketball.

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Speaker 2: I saw this on Twitter from the Great Warren Sharp

1390
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Speaker 2: and it is getting a lot of traction on social

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Speaker 2: media tonight.

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Speaker 1: Most expensive wide.

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Speaker 2: Receiver rooms in twenty twenty four and before I get

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Speaker 2: into it, list some of the teams, the numbers where

1395
01:22:10,200 --> 01:22:15,920
Speaker 2: they sit. How do you answer that question? How important

1396
01:22:17,040 --> 01:22:21,759
Speaker 2: are the wide receivers? I'm just talking about affecting women.

1397
01:22:26,960 --> 01:22:29,800
Speaker 3: I mean, I would say they were fairly important. It's

1398
01:22:29,960 --> 01:22:37,120
Speaker 3: really hard to just put a value outside of the

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01:22:37,240 --> 01:22:45,040
Speaker 3: quarterback position on a specific group, quarterback on offensive line

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01:22:45,120 --> 01:22:49,240
Speaker 3: outside of that, because it depends on your scheme. It

1401
01:22:49,320 --> 01:22:55,559
Speaker 3: has a lot to do with that. So, like any position,

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01:22:55,840 --> 01:23:02,280
Speaker 3: in the NFL. You you need it, and you know

1403
01:23:02,439 --> 01:23:04,120
Speaker 3: you need it when you don't have it, you know

1404
01:23:04,160 --> 01:23:06,679
Speaker 3: what I mean. Like it's one of those situations, yeah,

1405
01:23:07,400 --> 01:23:11,320
Speaker 3: where it's important when you don't have it, you don't

1406
01:23:11,360 --> 01:23:15,720
Speaker 3: have any whiteouts, then it's ultimately important if you got

1407
01:23:15,720 --> 01:23:22,040
Speaker 3: a best running game in the world I mean acts Tennessee, right,

1408
01:23:22,640 --> 01:23:30,639
Speaker 3: So it's a situation where there's a value to having

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01:23:31,080 --> 01:23:34,120
Speaker 3: wideouts that you can depend on that can take the

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01:23:34,200 --> 01:23:38,679
Speaker 3: pressure off quarterbacks. You can say the same for running

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01:23:38,720 --> 01:23:42,639
Speaker 3: backs as well. So it goes hand and in especially

1412
01:23:43,280 --> 01:23:46,680
Speaker 3: if do you run more two back do you run

1413
01:23:46,760 --> 01:23:48,200
Speaker 3: more with very few teams that do?

1414
01:23:48,360 --> 01:23:51,599
Speaker 1: Now do you run more three wides four wise quads?

1415
01:23:52,479 --> 01:23:58,680
Speaker 3: So it all depends on your scheme, uh, and what

1416
01:23:58,800 --> 01:24:00,519
Speaker 3: you're trying to do and what you're trying to force

1417
01:24:00,600 --> 01:24:01,280
Speaker 3: the defense to do.

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01:24:02,320 --> 01:24:04,200
Speaker 2: Well, you tell me if this is a little bit

1419
01:24:04,240 --> 01:24:08,080
Speaker 2: of an inverted pyramid. And I'm going to admit there's

1420
01:24:08,120 --> 01:24:10,960
Speaker 2: a little bit of a weakness in the conversation in that,

1421
01:24:11,640 --> 01:24:14,200
Speaker 2: like every other human being on the planet that doesn't

1422
01:24:14,240 --> 01:24:17,479
Speaker 2: run an NFL team, I don't understand how the cap

1423
01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:18,639
Speaker 2: works at all.

1424
01:24:18,960 --> 01:24:20,920
Speaker 1: Like, good God, what.

1425
01:24:21,160 --> 01:24:23,679
Speaker 2: Like In other words, Warren put this together and said,

1426
01:24:23,680 --> 01:24:26,640
Speaker 2: the numbers are based on the total cap hit.

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01:24:27,280 --> 01:24:29,280
Speaker 1: Well, I'll give you an example of what I don't get.

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01:24:29,560 --> 01:24:32,960
Speaker 2: Number nineteen on this list is the Eagles twenty seven

1429
01:24:33,040 --> 01:24:39,000
Speaker 2: point six million dollars. Huh that like massive extensions for

1430
01:24:39,120 --> 01:24:43,719
Speaker 2: aj Brown and DeVante Smith, Like, oh my god, tons

1431
01:24:43,760 --> 01:24:45,160
Speaker 2: of money going into that room.

1432
01:24:45,640 --> 01:24:47,360
Speaker 1: Somehow they're nineteenth on this list.

1433
01:24:47,800 --> 01:24:50,760
Speaker 2: But I also understand the intricacies of how this whole

1434
01:24:50,840 --> 01:24:54,280
Speaker 2: thing works, and at least the concept of what Warren

1435
01:24:54,400 --> 01:24:55,240
Speaker 2: is talking about.

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01:24:55,600 --> 01:24:58,760
Speaker 1: So there's there's some surprises here. Here's another one.

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01:24:59,120 --> 01:25:01,639
Speaker 2: The forty nine Ers are number one on the list,

1438
01:25:02,120 --> 01:25:07,920
Speaker 2: fifty five million, and that's before any Brandon Ayuk extension.

1439
01:25:09,080 --> 01:25:11,280
Speaker 2: So I don't even know how the hell that's possible,

1440
01:25:12,160 --> 01:25:14,840
Speaker 2: But I trust that these numbers are what they are,

1441
01:25:15,160 --> 01:25:19,320
Speaker 2: And you tell me what story this tells. Listen to

1442
01:25:19,400 --> 01:25:24,439
Speaker 2: the list of teams in the bottom eight, the bottom

1443
01:25:24,520 --> 01:25:29,040
Speaker 2: eight on this list spending the least amount of their

1444
01:25:29,160 --> 01:25:34,439
Speaker 2: cap in the league on the wide receiver room. All

1445
01:25:34,600 --> 01:25:39,000
Speaker 2: in the bottom eight, the Chiefs, the Lions, the Ravens,

1446
01:25:39,600 --> 01:25:45,160
Speaker 2: the Bills, the Steelers, and the Green Bay Packers. In fact,

1447
01:25:45,320 --> 01:25:49,080
Speaker 2: the lowest in the whole league, the Green Bay Packers

1448
01:25:49,120 --> 01:25:52,000
Speaker 2: because they're all pups, but they're also good.

1449
01:25:53,360 --> 01:25:54,240
Speaker 1: They're all so good.

1450
01:25:54,400 --> 01:25:57,360
Speaker 2: So say that again to yeah, the Chiefs, Green Bay Chiefs,

1451
01:25:57,680 --> 01:26:02,400
Speaker 2: the Lions, the Ravens, the Bills, the Steelers, and the

1452
01:26:02,560 --> 01:26:05,240
Speaker 2: Packers are six of the bottom eight. The other two

1453
01:26:05,640 --> 01:26:09,400
Speaker 2: are the Cardinals they're not good. And the Chargers, Eh,

1454
01:26:10,439 --> 01:26:13,640
Speaker 2: I can't they have been good. They're not good. We

1455
01:26:13,760 --> 01:26:16,360
Speaker 2: think they're gonna be good. They just dump both their receivers.

1456
01:26:16,640 --> 01:26:19,960
Speaker 2: That one's complex. But six of the bottom eight are

1457
01:26:20,200 --> 01:26:25,960
Speaker 2: literally six of the top teams in the NFL. And

1458
01:26:26,360 --> 01:26:29,080
Speaker 2: if you go up to the top and go, okay,

1459
01:26:29,240 --> 01:26:31,640
Speaker 2: who are the good teams up there? Well, there's a

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01:26:31,680 --> 01:26:35,920
Speaker 2: forty nine Ers. They're number one. Number two is the Seahawks. Like,

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01:26:36,560 --> 01:26:40,240
Speaker 2: tell me, in this top ten, how many are like

1462
01:26:40,720 --> 01:26:45,400
Speaker 2: true Super Bowl contenders? A couple of them. You're gonna go, well,

1463
01:26:45,439 --> 01:26:47,840
Speaker 2: they are, and then you need to stop and think

1464
01:26:47,880 --> 01:26:51,200
Speaker 2: about it. Number one is the Niners. Number two is

1465
01:26:51,280 --> 01:26:55,320
Speaker 2: the Seahawks. Number three is Dallas, Number four is Miami.

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01:26:56,200 --> 01:27:01,960
Speaker 2: Number five is the Bears, then the Raiders, Rams, Bucks, Titans, Bengals.

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Speaker 2: Now the thing about the Cowboys and Dolphins, you and

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01:27:07,160 --> 01:27:09,760
Speaker 2: I would talk about this both in and out of

1469
01:27:09,800 --> 01:27:13,920
Speaker 2: the football season. Last year, those two teams had good

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01:27:14,080 --> 01:27:18,360
Speaker 2: records and good seasons. Yet I don't think either one

1471
01:27:18,400 --> 01:27:20,600
Speaker 2: of them beat a good team all year except for

1472
01:27:20,680 --> 01:27:22,720
Speaker 2: when they played each other. One of them had to win.

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01:27:24,720 --> 01:27:30,080
Speaker 2: So they like, are the Cowboys and Dolphins really a contender?

1474
01:27:31,240 --> 01:27:36,519
Speaker 2: They whimpered out of the playoffs? So is this an

1475
01:27:36,600 --> 01:27:38,880
Speaker 2: inverted pyramid? To a degree?

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01:27:39,320 --> 01:27:45,639
Speaker 1: Is spending big on the wide receiver room preventative? Oh yeah,

1477
01:27:45,720 --> 01:27:50,000
Speaker 1: especially if you draft well? Absolutely?

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01:27:50,439 --> 01:27:53,519
Speaker 2: What I say preventative, I mean are like, is spending

1479
01:27:53,560 --> 01:27:56,880
Speaker 2: a lot in the wide receiver room a detractor to

1480
01:27:57,040 --> 01:27:57,599
Speaker 2: doing well?

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01:28:00,600 --> 01:28:04,920
Speaker 1: So there's another caveat yep, do you have the quarterback?

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01:28:06,760 --> 01:28:11,400
Speaker 1: Let's say I do. Then to get an A plus

1483
01:28:11,520 --> 01:28:16,040
Speaker 1: receiver with an A plus quarterback, you have to do it.

1484
01:28:19,200 --> 01:28:19,800
Speaker 1: You have to do it.

1485
01:28:21,520 --> 01:28:23,879
Speaker 3: It bowls well for you. I mean there's an outlier.

1486
01:28:23,960 --> 01:28:26,519
Speaker 3: Of course, there's a Patrick Mahomes. How many teams has

1487
01:28:26,600 --> 01:28:32,160
Speaker 3: practicck Mahomes one? And that's it's not gonna be another one.

1488
01:28:32,280 --> 01:28:37,519
Speaker 3: So coming when you say A plus quarterbacks, who who else?

1489
01:28:37,920 --> 01:28:40,120
Speaker 3: Justin Herbert is an A plus quarterback even though he

1490
01:28:40,160 --> 01:28:41,280
Speaker 3: hasn't won anything.

1491
01:28:44,520 --> 01:28:48,080
Speaker 1: Is Josh Allen? Josh Allen is an A quarterback. Is

1492
01:28:48,160 --> 01:28:52,840
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow? Joe Burrows an A plus quarterback? Is let

1493
01:28:52,920 --> 01:28:55,680
Speaker 1: me give you a couple more names. Jackson is an

1494
01:28:55,720 --> 01:28:59,720
Speaker 1: A quarterback. What's Rock Purty? Brock Party is is A

1495
01:29:00,120 --> 01:29:05,720
Speaker 1: plus A quarterback? Okay? What's Tua? Tua is a A

1496
01:29:05,880 --> 01:29:13,080
Speaker 1: B B minus. Dak is a B. Okay? What's Jordan Love?

1497
01:29:13,600 --> 01:29:15,519
Speaker 1: Jordan Love is a C. We don't know what he

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01:29:15,680 --> 01:29:18,960
Speaker 1: is yet, Okay, I mean I I think largely what

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01:29:19,080 --> 01:29:23,840
Speaker 1: you're What's Jalen Hurts? Jalen Hurts is a B. He's

1500
01:29:23,880 --> 01:29:26,479
Speaker 1: a B. Okay, he's a bit. He's not.

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Speaker 3: You know, when once you get into the A category

1502
01:29:29,200 --> 01:29:34,479
Speaker 3: A plus quarterback, then I mean you're you're you're up

1503
01:29:34,520 --> 01:29:38,760
Speaker 3: there right in every year in in the conversation of

1504
01:29:39,640 --> 01:29:42,920
Speaker 3: uh leading the league and passing, you know, barring injury

1505
01:29:43,040 --> 01:29:44,960
Speaker 3: or something like that, like you're you're, you're right up

1506
01:29:44,960 --> 01:29:45,400
Speaker 3: at the top.

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Speaker 2: YEP, that's the way I see it. The problem is

1508
01:29:52,439 --> 01:29:54,120
Speaker 2: is that you have the A plus. You said, if

1509
01:29:54,160 --> 01:29:56,599
Speaker 2: you compare the A plus quarterback and the A plus receiver,

1510
01:29:56,720 --> 01:29:58,680
Speaker 2: you've got to do it. You gotta actually, well, yeah,

1511
01:29:58,880 --> 01:30:02,320
Speaker 2: I know, but that also we're get two years away

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01:30:02,360 --> 01:30:05,919
Speaker 2: of that costing one hundred million dollars for those two players.

1513
01:30:07,240 --> 01:30:11,200
Speaker 1: One hundred million. Your quarterback is about to make sixty.

1514
01:30:12,240 --> 01:30:14,600
Speaker 1: Your receivers are. It's cold world out here, man, But

1515
01:30:16,200 --> 01:30:18,519
Speaker 1: guess what it will.

1516
01:30:20,800 --> 01:30:23,519
Speaker 3: It's a slide. Remember when receivers weren't making money like

1517
01:30:23,600 --> 01:30:26,360
Speaker 3: that anymore? Then they and it was all in the

1518
01:30:26,439 --> 01:30:30,479
Speaker 3: running backs, and then they shifted back to the receivers.

1519
01:30:30,560 --> 01:30:34,160
Speaker 3: Running backs can't get a dime. So it's ebbs and flows, man,

1520
01:30:34,240 --> 01:30:38,320
Speaker 3: it's ebbs and flows, right, And it's predicated on what's

1521
01:30:38,439 --> 01:30:40,840
Speaker 3: going on and who's winning the Super Bowl, how they're

1522
01:30:40,880 --> 01:30:46,040
Speaker 3: winning it. Those create your trends. Those create your trends,

1523
01:30:50,000 --> 01:30:54,360
Speaker 3: and so it's ever moving. It's ever moving.

1524
01:30:55,320 --> 01:30:56,320
Speaker 1: Is anyone doing that?

1525
01:30:56,479 --> 01:30:59,160
Speaker 2: By the way, the A plus QB and the A

1526
01:30:59,320 --> 01:31:01,639
Speaker 2: plus receiver we're on the same team? Does that exist

1527
01:31:01,760 --> 01:31:05,160
Speaker 2: right now? And then no, no, Burrow and.

1528
01:31:05,240 --> 01:31:09,120
Speaker 9: Chase, Oh that's that's A plus A plus Okay, So

1529
01:31:09,200 --> 01:31:14,439
Speaker 9: there's one. Yeah, that's abody else. You didn't give dak

1530
01:31:14,479 --> 01:31:16,280
Speaker 9: An a So I didn't give that. No, I didn't

1531
01:31:16,280 --> 01:31:17,080
Speaker 9: give him a CD.

1532
01:31:17,320 --> 01:31:22,960
Speaker 2: That's that's a no. Uh, you gave Josh Allen and

1533
01:31:23,040 --> 01:31:24,519
Speaker 2: a but they got rid of their receiver.

1534
01:31:26,560 --> 01:31:28,560
Speaker 1: We don't know yet in Baltimore.

1535
01:31:31,240 --> 01:31:38,000
Speaker 2: Wow, oh yeah, that receiving corps. Yeah, that hasn't to

1536
01:31:38,080 --> 01:31:38,639
Speaker 2: focus yet.

1537
01:31:38,720 --> 01:31:46,360
Speaker 3: Tremendous promise, but we don't know yet, correct, We don't know.

1538
01:31:46,600 --> 01:31:49,000
Speaker 3: And you didn't give Jalen Hurts an a. You know

1539
01:31:49,080 --> 01:31:51,400
Speaker 3: what the quarterback I didn't ask you is c J Stroud.

1540
01:31:52,600 --> 01:31:54,800
Speaker 1: Oh he's on his way to be an A on

1541
01:31:54,960 --> 01:31:57,360
Speaker 1: his way. Oh yeah, he's he's a high B right now.

1542
01:31:57,720 --> 01:31:59,559
Speaker 1: And Stefan Diggs is an A. Right.

1543
01:31:59,720 --> 01:32:04,439
Speaker 3: So what happens is coming off rookie success, there is

1544
01:32:04,520 --> 01:32:11,360
Speaker 3: a tape. There's a tape on you. Teams can prepare

1545
01:32:11,560 --> 01:32:14,200
Speaker 3: for you now. Now, if you can come out and

1546
01:32:14,360 --> 01:32:17,320
Speaker 3: be a rock star in your second year, you got to.

1547
01:32:17,479 --> 01:32:20,920
Speaker 3: You know, you get your letter. You get your letter, right.

1548
01:32:21,080 --> 01:32:24,160
Speaker 3: You're not catching anybody off guard anymore. They know your strengths,

1549
01:32:24,200 --> 01:32:26,559
Speaker 3: they know your weaknesses, and now they're going to game

1550
01:32:26,680 --> 01:32:29,160
Speaker 3: plan around those. They're going to force you to do

1551
01:32:29,240 --> 01:32:31,040
Speaker 3: the things you don't like to do and take away

1552
01:32:31,080 --> 01:32:35,040
Speaker 3: the things you like to do. So this next year

1553
01:32:35,120 --> 01:32:37,640
Speaker 3: for CJ is a huge year, and he came out

1554
01:32:37,640 --> 01:32:39,840
Speaker 3: and said, I mean he loves this year because he

1555
01:32:39,920 --> 01:32:43,200
Speaker 3: doesn't have the distraction of the draft. He can just

1556
01:32:43,280 --> 01:32:47,679
Speaker 3: focus on his craft. Right, So you would expect, especially

1557
01:32:48,200 --> 01:32:52,560
Speaker 3: the money they've put into, you know, getting him the

1558
01:32:52,680 --> 01:32:56,840
Speaker 3: talent on the offensive side of the ball. I mean,

1559
01:32:56,880 --> 01:33:01,400
Speaker 3: this should be a breakout year for another breakout year.

1560
01:33:01,840 --> 01:33:03,840
Speaker 1: They got a lot of They got a lot of stuff.

1561
01:33:03,880 --> 01:33:05,880
Speaker 1: I mean they are ready to go. They are locked

1562
01:33:06,000 --> 01:33:07,400
Speaker 1: down a lot of stuff.

1563
01:33:07,680 --> 01:33:10,439
Speaker 3: And JJ Wisse said he ready to come back as well.

1564
01:33:10,600 --> 01:33:15,320
Speaker 3: Demo calls him, Yeah, well he's noticing.

1565
01:33:15,400 --> 01:33:23,200
Speaker 2: He's like, wait a minute, right, Okay, not done with

1566
01:33:23,280 --> 01:33:25,360
Speaker 2: the NFL because it's something else we got to get to.

1567
01:33:26,200 --> 01:33:28,680
Speaker 1: First off, shortly after the show, the podcast goes up.

1568
01:33:28,720 --> 01:33:30,920
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1569
01:33:31,040 --> 01:33:32,400
Speaker 2: sure to check out the podcast.

1570
01:33:32,520 --> 01:33:33,280
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1571
01:33:33,360 --> 01:33:37,000
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1572
01:33:37,120 --> 01:33:40,559
Speaker 2: rate and review the podcast. Just search Fox Sports Radio

1573
01:33:40,600 --> 01:33:43,320
Speaker 2: wherever you get your podcast. You'll see this show posted

1574
01:33:43,720 --> 01:33:47,160
Speaker 2: right after we get off the air. Coming up next

1575
01:33:47,360 --> 01:33:50,800
Speaker 2: is their new controversy surrounding the NFL playing games on

1576
01:33:51,080 --> 01:33:54,320
Speaker 2: Christmas Day. We'll have that for you with E from Salam.

1577
01:33:54,720 --> 01:34:01,479
Speaker 2: I'm Mark Willard, Fox Sports Radio, Tyraq dot Com Studios,

1578
01:34:01,560 --> 01:34:03,960
Speaker 2: Mark Willardy from Salami. You know what they say from

1579
01:34:07,360 --> 01:34:11,479
Speaker 2: the series doesn't start until someone wins on their own floor.

1580
01:34:17,240 --> 01:34:22,320
Speaker 2: There's two twenty to go, they're down nine. The Nuggets

1581
01:34:22,320 --> 01:34:25,120
Speaker 2: are gonna win this game. Well, yeah, they can't get

1582
01:34:25,240 --> 01:34:27,360
Speaker 2: a stop. I mean, they come out, they came out

1583
01:34:27,400 --> 01:34:30,160
Speaker 2: fire and they were hitting. You can't do anything with

1584
01:34:30,280 --> 01:34:32,840
Speaker 2: this man with the ball right now, the joker, he's

1585
01:34:32,920 --> 01:34:35,200
Speaker 2: making every play the right play.

1586
01:34:36,160 --> 01:34:36,400
Speaker 1: Yep.

1587
01:34:37,760 --> 01:34:43,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, I gotta tell you, especially in that game two.

1588
01:34:45,200 --> 01:34:48,160
Speaker 2: I had never seen him get guarded like that before.

1589
01:34:48,960 --> 01:34:54,439
Speaker 2: Oh it was she was blustered, unbelievable, flusteredable and get

1590
01:34:54,439 --> 01:34:56,599
Speaker 2: a shot off. Yeah, and I just I didn't It's

1591
01:34:56,680 --> 01:35:00,920
Speaker 2: like I didn't see that coming. And he's arrived in

1592
01:35:01,000 --> 01:35:03,200
Speaker 2: Minnesota and whatever he was missing, he found it.

1593
01:35:03,320 --> 01:35:03,479
Speaker 1: Yep.

1594
01:35:06,320 --> 01:35:10,240
Speaker 3: So it's tortun and they just had a triple team

1595
01:35:10,320 --> 01:35:11,800
Speaker 3: on them, torturing them.

1596
01:35:11,840 --> 01:35:12,760
Speaker 1: Defensive Player of the Year.

1597
01:35:12,880 --> 01:35:16,840
Speaker 3: Can't do anything with him, can't do any man, I mean,

1598
01:35:16,960 --> 01:35:21,200
Speaker 3: And to make an argument that he's not the MVP

1599
01:35:21,479 --> 01:35:26,000
Speaker 3: because he's not taking the last shot, I.

1600
01:35:26,080 --> 01:35:29,799
Speaker 2: Mean, and it's cliched to say what I said earlier.

1601
01:35:30,080 --> 01:35:33,120
Speaker 2: Everyone is saying it winner of tonight wins the series.

1602
01:35:33,280 --> 01:35:36,280
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, would you be shocked if if

1603
01:35:36,400 --> 01:35:39,559
Speaker 2: Minnesota shows up in Denver in a couple of nights

1604
01:35:39,560 --> 01:35:43,080
Speaker 2: and wins Game five, I'd be surprised. I wouldn't be shocked,

1605
01:35:43,200 --> 01:35:45,680
Speaker 2: not with the way this thing has gone. So I

1606
01:35:45,760 --> 01:35:49,560
Speaker 2: don't know that the series is actually over. But goodness

1607
01:35:49,800 --> 01:35:50,479
Speaker 2: can't stop him.

1608
01:35:50,520 --> 01:35:50,680
Speaker 1: Man.

1609
01:35:50,920 --> 01:35:56,760
Speaker 2: When, yeah, when Thursday afternoon, when I took a little

1610
01:35:56,760 --> 01:35:59,400
Speaker 2: bit of a long weekend this weekend, when I took

1611
01:35:59,479 --> 01:36:02,600
Speaker 2: off from war on Thursday afternoon, if you told me

1612
01:36:02,720 --> 01:36:05,879
Speaker 2: this thing was going to be tied after four games,

1613
01:36:06,160 --> 01:36:10,320
Speaker 2: I'd have called the police, Like what, I did not

1614
01:36:10,600 --> 01:36:15,000
Speaker 2: see this coming at all. And Denver in these two games,

1615
01:36:16,040 --> 01:36:22,040
Speaker 2: I mean unbeatable. You play like this, go ahead and

1616
01:36:22,560 --> 01:36:25,720
Speaker 2: start engraving the name again. Yeah, it's not much you

1617
01:36:25,800 --> 01:36:29,920
Speaker 2: can do. And it's led by Nicola Jokicic you know

1618
01:36:31,800 --> 01:36:36,440
Speaker 2: thirty three seven and seven, dude.

1619
01:36:38,280 --> 01:36:39,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really good.

1620
01:36:39,920 --> 01:36:42,080
Speaker 2: All right, we're gonna circle back to that as they

1621
01:36:42,160 --> 01:36:45,000
Speaker 2: come down the stretch, minute to go, and the Nuggets

1622
01:36:45,080 --> 01:36:50,760
Speaker 2: are are down right now by by nine, so they're

1623
01:36:50,800 --> 01:36:51,280
Speaker 2: in trouble.

1624
01:36:52,680 --> 01:36:59,439
Speaker 1: The NFL schedule comes out on Wednesday, and this flew.

1625
01:36:59,360 --> 01:37:01,479
Speaker 2: Under the radar because it's one of those stories that

1626
01:37:01,840 --> 01:37:04,639
Speaker 2: came out two months ago and you're just like, yeah, whatever,

1627
01:37:05,240 --> 01:37:09,639
Speaker 2: Like I'm not thinking about that in March. But it's

1628
01:37:09,840 --> 01:37:13,320
Speaker 2: going to become a story again this Wednesday, and then

1629
01:37:13,360 --> 01:37:15,800
Speaker 2: as we get into the season, it's going to become

1630
01:37:16,520 --> 01:37:19,920
Speaker 2: even more of a story because of the leap year

1631
01:37:20,640 --> 01:37:26,559
Speaker 2: Christmas this year falls on a Wednesday, and the NFL,

1632
01:37:27,360 --> 01:37:31,439
Speaker 2: after seeing the ratings last day years, they're.

1633
01:37:31,280 --> 01:37:33,760
Speaker 1: Like, you know, what I think we should do is

1634
01:37:34,200 --> 01:37:36,400
Speaker 1: probably do that all the time.

1635
01:37:37,400 --> 01:37:40,080
Speaker 2: But the only time we've ever seen something like that

1636
01:37:40,320 --> 01:37:46,000
Speaker 2: on a on a Wednesday was COVID. So even I

1637
01:37:46,120 --> 01:37:49,800
Speaker 2: sit here right now and I'm like, okay, how are you?

1638
01:37:50,479 --> 01:37:53,639
Speaker 2: How are you playing a game on And by the way,

1639
01:37:53,760 --> 01:37:58,200
Speaker 2: not just one, two, two games on a Wednesday, And

1640
01:37:58,360 --> 01:38:01,320
Speaker 2: you can't tuck it in with weeks and all this stuff.

1641
01:38:01,360 --> 01:38:04,599
Speaker 2: In week eight, it's Christmas, the seasons about to be over.

1642
01:38:06,200 --> 01:38:09,479
Speaker 2: They're going to grab contenders because that's what they do.

1643
01:38:10,920 --> 01:38:15,519
Speaker 2: And those contenders i've read about this now, will be

1644
01:38:15,640 --> 01:38:23,000
Speaker 2: playing three games in eleven days, right before the playoffs

1645
01:38:23,040 --> 01:38:27,240
Speaker 2: get started. Talk to me Man, you've you've done this,

1646
01:38:27,520 --> 01:38:30,439
Speaker 2: You've played these games. Talk talk to me about what's

1647
01:38:30,479 --> 01:38:38,680
Speaker 2: actually happening here. Profit over health. Well, sure, but I

1648
01:38:39,240 --> 01:38:42,160
Speaker 2: like that we know that part of the NFL. I

1649
01:38:42,280 --> 01:38:44,720
Speaker 2: want to know how doable this is, this even is

1650
01:38:44,920 --> 01:38:46,080
Speaker 2: and that's not doable.

1651
01:38:46,360 --> 01:38:47,960
Speaker 1: But they can. They can, They're gonna do it.

1652
01:38:48,720 --> 01:38:50,960
Speaker 2: No, I mean for the player, I mean for the playoffs,

1653
01:38:51,000 --> 01:38:53,439
Speaker 2: and how is this How is this going to affect

1654
01:38:53,479 --> 01:38:54,040
Speaker 2: the playoffs?

1655
01:38:54,360 --> 01:38:57,600
Speaker 3: It will dramatically affect the playoffs. Man, football is a

1656
01:38:57,600 --> 01:39:01,360
Speaker 3: hard thing to play once a week, let alone twice

1657
01:39:01,400 --> 01:39:06,719
Speaker 3: a week. But then you start talking about three games

1658
01:39:06,760 --> 01:39:07,920
Speaker 3: in a short amount of time.

1659
01:39:10,120 --> 01:39:13,880
Speaker 1: Man, So to.

1660
01:39:13,960 --> 01:39:17,080
Speaker 2: Accommodate this Christmas Day schedule, they will play games the

1661
01:39:17,160 --> 01:39:21,200
Speaker 2: previous week on Saturday instead of Sunday.

1662
01:39:22,960 --> 01:39:25,200
Speaker 1: So that's in theory what it would look like.

1663
01:39:25,280 --> 01:39:27,800
Speaker 2: You'll have a team play on a Sunday, then they'll

1664
01:39:27,840 --> 01:39:31,720
Speaker 2: play six days later on a Saturday, and then they

1665
01:39:31,760 --> 01:39:34,639
Speaker 2: will play five days later. Four of them will play

1666
01:39:34,680 --> 01:39:38,280
Speaker 2: five days later on a Wednesday. That's three games in

1667
01:39:38,360 --> 01:39:43,240
Speaker 2: eleven days. That's oh oh, and you're on the road

1668
01:39:43,280 --> 01:39:48,200
Speaker 2: for Christmas. I mean being on a roll for Christmas

1669
01:39:48,360 --> 01:39:50,679
Speaker 2: and all of that. I mean, that's once you play

1670
01:39:50,760 --> 01:39:54,840
Speaker 2: professional sports, especially the play in the fall, you give

1671
01:39:54,960 --> 01:39:56,759
Speaker 2: up your holidays, Thanksgiving, Christmas.

1672
01:39:57,400 --> 01:40:00,280
Speaker 1: It is what it is, right like for you years

1673
01:40:00,640 --> 01:40:03,200
Speaker 1: that was just it's great.

1674
01:40:03,360 --> 01:40:06,880
Speaker 3: But you know, Christmas has been on Sunday before, It's

1675
01:40:06,880 --> 01:40:09,120
Speaker 3: been on Saturday where you had to travel, It's been

1676
01:40:09,160 --> 01:40:09,400
Speaker 3: on like.

1677
01:40:09,479 --> 01:40:10,000
Speaker 1: It's it's.

1678
01:40:11,439 --> 01:40:17,519
Speaker 3: You know, it just becomes part of the sacrifice having

1679
01:40:17,560 --> 01:40:19,880
Speaker 3: a summer right, being able to go on a summer

1680
01:40:19,960 --> 01:40:22,439
Speaker 3: vacation in July or whatever that is.

1681
01:40:22,640 --> 01:40:24,000
Speaker 1: It just give it all the way.

1682
01:40:26,880 --> 01:40:30,200
Speaker 3: But it looked if there is a way, the NFL

1683
01:40:30,280 --> 01:40:33,920
Speaker 3: will find a way, right they. I'm telling you when

1684
01:40:34,040 --> 01:40:40,879
Speaker 3: Christmas fell on Saturday two years ago and they completely

1685
01:40:41,080 --> 01:40:46,200
Speaker 3: took over, and the NBA was like, but this is.

1686
01:40:46,240 --> 01:40:50,519
Speaker 1: Our day, not anymore.

1687
01:40:50,840 --> 01:40:53,680
Speaker 3: They I knew for a fact, Oh it was its

1688
01:40:53,760 --> 01:40:59,200
Speaker 3: over new for in fact, it was over huge day,

1689
01:40:59,280 --> 01:40:59,880
Speaker 3: huge ratings.

1690
01:41:00,479 --> 01:41:04,599
Speaker 2: Oh god, that Ravens forty nine ers guge at five

1691
01:41:04,640 --> 01:41:07,640
Speaker 2: o'clock Pacific eight in the East on Christmas Night?

1692
01:41:07,720 --> 01:41:13,720
Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? I mean, who's not gonna watch that?

1693
01:41:14,520 --> 01:41:18,080
Speaker 3: So that's they're in the business of monetizing the product.

1694
01:41:19,240 --> 01:41:23,800
Speaker 3: It is the one thing in this country that dominates

1695
01:41:24,680 --> 01:41:30,599
Speaker 3: no matter what day it is. It's the one true

1696
01:41:30,720 --> 01:41:35,400
Speaker 3: thing that you can charge advertisers whatever you want to

1697
01:41:35,520 --> 01:41:42,439
Speaker 3: be a part of period that in the Olympics, and

1698
01:41:42,520 --> 01:41:48,360
Speaker 3: that only comes once every four years, yep. And sometimes

1699
01:41:48,439 --> 01:41:50,600
Speaker 3: that's in the middle of the night, right most of

1700
01:41:50,680 --> 01:41:52,400
Speaker 3: the time it's in the middle of the night that

1701
01:41:52,640 --> 01:41:55,040
Speaker 3: I don't gearing up for the Paris Olympics. In a

1702
01:41:55,360 --> 01:41:59,560
Speaker 3: month or so, two months I'll be up. Is that

1703
01:41:59,720 --> 01:42:02,880
Speaker 3: comp advertising wise, I'd argue it's not. You know, you

1704
01:42:03,000 --> 01:42:04,960
Speaker 3: said that you could do it any day of the week.

1705
01:42:05,120 --> 01:42:07,280
Speaker 3: Not true. But I don't like the Olympics just in

1706
01:42:07,400 --> 01:42:10,760
Speaker 3: terms of the amount of eyes, just the amount of

1707
01:42:10,880 --> 01:42:15,840
Speaker 3: the amount of eyes. And that's including international too. The

1708
01:42:15,880 --> 01:42:20,719
Speaker 3: football is just here, you know what I mean? Football

1709
01:42:20,800 --> 01:42:21,120
Speaker 3: is just here.

1710
01:42:24,280 --> 01:42:27,080
Speaker 2: This quote from Roger Goodell. It will not be a

1711
01:42:27,160 --> 01:42:30,240
Speaker 2: regular thing. It will be when Christmas falls on a Wednesday.

1712
01:42:30,840 --> 01:42:34,280
Speaker 2: The time period between games has been done before. We

1713
01:42:34,439 --> 01:42:39,439
Speaker 2: have not seen any elevation of injuries, you all. And

1714
01:42:39,760 --> 01:42:43,639
Speaker 2: we have had a major focus on Thursday night when

1715
01:42:43,680 --> 01:42:46,639
Speaker 2: we first put it in, and we've still not seen

1716
01:42:46,880 --> 01:42:49,439
Speaker 2: any kind of elevation of injuries.

1717
01:42:50,000 --> 01:42:58,519
Speaker 1: So I think we have this down there you have

1718
01:42:58,680 --> 01:43:02,800
Speaker 1: it and now you have Nick Kope. All right, thank

1719
01:43:02,840 --> 01:43:03,880
Speaker 1: you very much. Mark.

1720
01:43:03,960 --> 01:43:08,080
Speaker 6: It is a final in Minneapolis, the Nuggets one fifteen

1721
01:43:08,120 --> 01:43:11,439
Speaker 6: to one oh seven winners over the Timberwolves. The series

1722
01:43:11,520 --> 01:43:14,840
Speaker 6: now tied add two games a piece, heading back to

1723
01:43:14,960 --> 01:43:15,679
Speaker 6: the Mile highst.

1724
01:43:15,720 --> 01:43:16,000
Speaker 1: City.

1725
01:43:16,120 --> 01:43:18,680
Speaker 6: The road team has won the first four games in

1726
01:43:18,800 --> 01:43:22,479
Speaker 6: this series. Every time Minnesota seemed to make a push.

1727
01:43:22,560 --> 01:43:25,720
Speaker 6: In this game, well there was the League MVP.

1728
01:43:25,800 --> 01:43:29,000
Speaker 7: Inbound goes over to Gordon inside the arc, going to Yokis,

1729
01:43:29,040 --> 01:43:32,200
Speaker 7: back behind him to Murray, Murray, back to Jokis Sloder.

1730
01:43:32,360 --> 01:43:37,400
Speaker 6: Good shot Thatablin didn't Altitude Sports Network there with the call.

1731
01:43:37,680 --> 01:43:41,719
Speaker 6: Jokich finishes with thirty five points, seven rebounds, seven assists.

1732
01:43:41,760 --> 01:43:45,240
Speaker 6: Aaron Gordon added twenty seven more for Denver, spoiled what

1733
01:43:45,520 --> 01:43:48,760
Speaker 6: was a very good offensive night for Anthony Edwards. He

1734
01:43:48,840 --> 01:43:52,160
Speaker 6: had forty four points to lead all scores, his fourth

1735
01:43:52,680 --> 01:43:55,800
Speaker 6: forty point game of these playoffs, but not enough, as

1736
01:43:55,920 --> 01:43:59,280
Speaker 6: Denver wins one fifteen to one oh seven. Earlier, it

1737
01:43:59,400 --> 01:44:01,600
Speaker 6: was the Pace over the Knicks, one twenty one to

1738
01:44:01,720 --> 01:44:04,240
Speaker 6: eighty nine. That series is now tied at two to

1739
01:44:04,240 --> 01:44:08,280
Speaker 6: two heading back to New York. Tyres Halliboard. Haliburton scored

1740
01:44:08,280 --> 01:44:11,800
Speaker 6: a team high twenty points. Ogannanobi missed a second straight

1741
01:44:11,880 --> 01:44:15,200
Speaker 6: game four New York with a hamstring injury. Atlanta Hawks

1742
01:44:15,200 --> 01:44:17,360
Speaker 6: won the NBA Draft lottery for the first time in

1743
01:44:17,439 --> 01:44:21,200
Speaker 6: franchise history. Wizards will pick second, the Rockets third, and

1744
01:44:21,360 --> 01:44:24,920
Speaker 6: the Spurs fourth. Stanley Cup Playoffs, the Panthers erased a

1745
01:44:25,040 --> 01:44:27,880
Speaker 6: two goal deficit to beat the Bruins three to two.

1746
01:44:28,040 --> 01:44:30,880
Speaker 6: They've got a three to one series lead, and then

1747
01:44:31,160 --> 01:44:33,519
Speaker 6: at the end of the first period Game three, it's

1748
01:44:33,600 --> 01:44:36,880
Speaker 6: the Canucks over the Oilers three to one. That series

1749
01:44:36,920 --> 01:44:40,240
Speaker 6: tied in one game apiece. You had the Mets walk

1750
01:44:40,320 --> 01:44:43,040
Speaker 6: off the Braves in the ninth inning a Brandon Nemo

1751
01:44:43,160 --> 01:44:46,120
Speaker 6: two run homer. Mets get the four to three win,

1752
01:44:47,080 --> 01:44:49,839
Speaker 6: and so Atlanta falls to two games back of the Phillies.

1753
01:44:49,880 --> 01:44:52,840
Speaker 6: It's not the Al East. Philadelphia still owns the best

1754
01:44:52,920 --> 01:44:55,839
Speaker 6: record in the majors at twenty eight and thirteen. Despite

1755
01:44:55,920 --> 01:44:59,240
Speaker 6: losing to the Marlins seven to six earlier. Today, Astros

1756
01:44:59,240 --> 01:45:01,760
Speaker 6: over the Tigers nine to three. Padre shout out the

1757
01:45:01,840 --> 01:45:05,759
Speaker 6: Dodgers for nothing show. Hey Otani out today with back soreness,

1758
01:45:05,840 --> 01:45:08,120
Speaker 6: but he's expected to be back in the lineup tomorrow

1759
01:45:08,439 --> 01:45:12,880
Speaker 6: when LA visits the Giants. In NASCAR, Brad Keslowski won

1760
01:45:12,920 --> 01:45:17,200
Speaker 6: a Darlington and in golf Roy mclroy one at Quail Hollow.

1761
01:45:17,320 --> 01:45:20,520
Speaker 6: He was five shots ahead of second place Xander Schanfley.

1762
01:45:20,920 --> 01:45:23,600
Speaker 1: Guys, back to you, okay, Nick, great stuff tonight. I

1763
01:45:23,600 --> 01:45:24,720
Speaker 1: appreciate you so much.

1764
01:45:24,760 --> 01:45:27,519
Speaker 2: Indeed, it is the final Nuggets have even the series

1765
01:45:28,000 --> 01:45:30,519
Speaker 2: at two games a piece. You know what, we brought

1766
01:45:30,640 --> 01:45:35,360
Speaker 2: up the whole Jokic MVP conversation earlier. I thought you

1767
01:45:35,479 --> 01:45:37,599
Speaker 2: had some good points. But the one thing we didn't

1768
01:45:37,680 --> 01:45:42,000
Speaker 2: get to in that is Jamal Murray. Like this is

1769
01:45:42,040 --> 01:45:44,479
Speaker 2: almost like the opposite of the MVP. Is he the

1770
01:45:44,560 --> 01:45:47,280
Speaker 2: most valuable player in the league that we don't talk

1771
01:45:47,360 --> 01:45:48,160
Speaker 2: about that much?

1772
01:45:48,880 --> 01:45:51,960
Speaker 1: Is that guy like the most underrated player in the league.

1773
01:45:52,040 --> 01:45:56,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, because during the regular season he's very you know,

1774
01:45:56,400 --> 01:45:58,280
Speaker 3: up and down up, and that's the Jokers team, so

1775
01:45:58,800 --> 01:46:01,080
Speaker 3: you know, we get it. But in the playoffs, man,

1776
01:46:01,160 --> 01:46:03,960
Speaker 3: this dude locks in. We saw it early on in

1777
01:46:04,040 --> 01:46:07,960
Speaker 3: his career. Uh, in the bubble where you know him

1778
01:46:08,040 --> 01:46:18,799
Speaker 3: and and what's his name from Cleveland? Him and Donovan

1779
01:46:18,800 --> 01:46:20,600
Speaker 3: Mitche remember they were going back, Oh, my guy. I

1780
01:46:20,760 --> 01:46:23,599
Speaker 3: was like, oh yes, So we were waiting for him

1781
01:46:23,880 --> 01:46:27,040
Speaker 3: to come out the next year and be that guy.

1782
01:46:27,120 --> 01:46:30,559
Speaker 3: He got hurt yep uh, and so we were just like, okay,

1783
01:46:30,640 --> 01:46:37,840
Speaker 3: well but when it comes to playoffs, wow, man, Jamal Murray,

1784
01:46:37,960 --> 01:46:40,120
Speaker 3: Now if he can consistently do it, because he'll give

1785
01:46:40,120 --> 01:46:44,120
Speaker 3: you a stinker, like in Game two, eight point right, like.

1786
01:46:44,439 --> 01:46:48,679
Speaker 1: Like big shots, like big shots. We got it. He's

1787
01:46:48,760 --> 01:46:49,960
Speaker 1: he's all in it, you know what I mean?

1788
01:46:50,120 --> 01:46:53,360
Speaker 2: This half this half court deal today, this this, you know,

1789
01:46:53,520 --> 01:46:57,120
Speaker 2: the the buzzer beaters earlier against the Lakers.

1790
01:46:57,200 --> 01:47:04,240
Speaker 1: I mean that just big, big time shots from this guy. Yeah,

1791
01:47:04,479 --> 01:47:06,680
Speaker 1: he's something else. Man.

1792
01:47:08,320 --> 01:47:12,160
Speaker 3: It is a I love watching them play because it

1793
01:47:12,640 --> 01:47:17,760
Speaker 3: doesn't seem like it's too big. He just seems in

1794
01:47:17,960 --> 01:47:20,040
Speaker 3: control no matter what's going on.

1795
01:47:21,240 --> 01:47:24,080
Speaker 1: I love that. I hate that he does it against us,

1796
01:47:24,280 --> 01:47:25,120
Speaker 1: But in.

1797
01:47:25,240 --> 01:47:29,280
Speaker 3: Terms of a basketball fan, like I love watching him

1798
01:47:29,600 --> 01:47:31,360
Speaker 3: and Anthony Edwards go at each other.

1799
01:47:32,360 --> 01:47:35,400
Speaker 1: Because that's what they're doing. They're fine. Do you know?

1800
01:47:35,720 --> 01:47:39,040
Speaker 2: Do you know one of my favorite things is about you.

1801
01:47:39,400 --> 01:47:42,439
Speaker 2: There's a bunch, but one of my favorite things is

1802
01:47:43,360 --> 01:47:46,479
Speaker 2: the whole. Like when a radio host calls a team

1803
01:47:46,760 --> 01:47:49,720
Speaker 2: we or us is like a thing. It's a thing

1804
01:47:49,880 --> 01:47:51,640
Speaker 2: like we're kind of you know what I mean. Like

1805
01:47:51,960 --> 01:47:55,360
Speaker 2: if I do that, there'll be listeners who are like, dude,

1806
01:47:55,400 --> 01:47:57,960
Speaker 2: you don't you don't play, you don't play for the

1807
01:47:58,040 --> 01:48:00,720
Speaker 2: forty nine ers, like you stop the whole like the

1808
01:48:00,840 --> 01:48:04,320
Speaker 2: we and the us thing. And I would imagine that

1809
01:48:04,640 --> 01:48:07,200
Speaker 2: through the years, at times it's been a trigger for

1810
01:48:07,280 --> 01:48:11,280
Speaker 2: the actual players with all the you know, people sitting

1811
01:48:11,320 --> 01:48:13,439
Speaker 2: there eating hot dogs going yeah, we suck.

1812
01:48:13,560 --> 01:48:16,200
Speaker 1: It's like you're not you're not on the team.

1813
01:48:16,600 --> 01:48:20,040
Speaker 2: You're actually an ex athlete and you do that, but

1814
01:48:20,280 --> 01:48:22,720
Speaker 2: for a team that you didn't play for in a

1815
01:48:22,840 --> 01:48:24,000
Speaker 2: sport that you didn't play.

1816
01:48:25,080 --> 01:48:28,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fun. I love it.

1817
01:48:29,080 --> 01:48:32,280
Speaker 3: Look, man, Look the reason I can get on here

1818
01:48:32,880 --> 01:48:35,759
Speaker 3: and speak the way I can speak about other sports

1819
01:48:36,840 --> 01:48:39,760
Speaker 3: is because I'm a fan. Yes, like I'm a fan,

1820
01:48:39,920 --> 01:48:44,000
Speaker 3: Like I really watched it matters, it means something. I'm

1821
01:48:44,120 --> 01:48:50,080
Speaker 3: just not giving random takes, are you know, Like I'm

1822
01:48:50,120 --> 01:48:53,040
Speaker 3: a fan of sports. I'm a fan of competition, so

1823
01:48:54,800 --> 01:48:58,360
Speaker 3: watching you know, basketball, like I love you know my

1824
01:48:58,439 --> 01:49:01,120
Speaker 3: love for basketball. Oh yeah, I know you love it

1825
01:49:01,200 --> 01:49:03,880
Speaker 3: more than football. I do, Yeah, I really do.

1826
01:49:04,800 --> 01:49:05,120
Speaker 2: I was.

1827
01:49:06,840 --> 01:49:11,120
Speaker 1: At our we had a gala two weeks ago, and fancy.

1828
01:49:13,200 --> 01:49:17,160
Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, nobody goes to like a you know,

1829
01:49:17,920 --> 01:49:20,640
Speaker 2: like a like kind of a half ass gala if

1830
01:49:20,640 --> 01:49:22,559
Speaker 2: it's got the word gala and it is fancy.

1831
01:49:22,920 --> 01:49:25,280
Speaker 1: It's a fundraiser for our school.

1832
01:49:25,760 --> 01:49:30,160
Speaker 3: Just uh so, you know, but one of our new

1833
01:49:30,280 --> 01:49:35,840
Speaker 3: parents is uh uh Taylor Griffin, all right, and so

1834
01:49:36,840 --> 01:49:39,400
Speaker 3: we we hit it off right away. Our wives knew

1835
01:49:40,040 --> 01:49:42,120
Speaker 3: our wives knew each other before we met, and we

1836
01:49:42,240 --> 01:49:45,560
Speaker 3: hit it right away. And we were telling these stories like,

1837
01:49:45,720 --> 01:49:51,200
Speaker 3: in my mind, I chose football, but in my mind,

1838
01:49:51,400 --> 01:49:53,800
Speaker 3: I know if I would have chose basketball, I could

1839
01:49:53,840 --> 01:49:54,840
Speaker 3: have made it to the league.

1840
01:49:56,439 --> 01:49:57,360
Speaker 1: He's the opposite.

1841
01:49:57,640 --> 01:50:01,240
Speaker 3: He chose basketball, and he he knows that he could

1842
01:50:01,280 --> 01:50:03,439
Speaker 3: have been in the league for ten years playing tight end.

1843
01:50:04,200 --> 01:50:04,639
Speaker 6: Mm hmm.

1844
01:50:05,960 --> 01:50:07,639
Speaker 1: Uh you know, I'll lie Jimmy Graham.

1845
01:50:08,800 --> 01:50:14,080
Speaker 3: And so we we waxed poetic and talk and reminisce

1846
01:50:14,160 --> 01:50:16,880
Speaker 3: about you know, he was recruited to play tight end

1847
01:50:17,120 --> 01:50:21,360
Speaker 3: and all of that, and you know what could have been?

1848
01:50:22,360 --> 01:50:25,080
Speaker 1: I talk about it all the time. What could it

1849
01:50:25,080 --> 01:50:27,599
Speaker 1: have What could it have looked like if.

1850
01:50:29,240 --> 01:50:33,760
Speaker 3: I chose basketball at the age I was graduating high

1851
01:50:33,800 --> 01:50:36,760
Speaker 3: school and my abilities at six five, one hundred and

1852
01:50:36,800 --> 01:50:39,439
Speaker 3: eighty five pounds, thirty eight inch vertical, scoring twenty four

1853
01:50:39,479 --> 01:50:40,839
Speaker 3: points a game, twelve rebounds.

1854
01:50:41,800 --> 01:50:44,040
Speaker 1: I was sixteen years old on my way to thirty

1855
01:50:44,280 --> 01:50:45,759
Speaker 1: eight inch vertical.

1856
01:50:45,960 --> 01:50:49,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, good lord, Yeah, I will put you in the rim.

1857
01:50:49,880 --> 01:50:53,960
Speaker 3: Oh right, I could shoot, I could dribble the whole

1858
01:50:54,040 --> 01:50:54,599
Speaker 3: nine yards.

1859
01:50:55,120 --> 01:50:59,120
Speaker 1: What was your vertical once you gained the offensive line weight?

1860
01:51:00,400 --> 01:51:02,559
Speaker 1: I think it went down to like thirty one, cause

1861
01:51:02,560 --> 01:51:03,960
Speaker 1: I get one hundred pounds in college.

1862
01:51:04,280 --> 01:51:06,120
Speaker 2: I love that you act like, oh, all the way

1863
01:51:06,160 --> 01:51:08,360
Speaker 2: down to thirty one, that's like still double what I

1864
01:51:08,400 --> 01:51:09,040
Speaker 2: would have jumped.

1865
01:51:09,120 --> 01:51:11,640
Speaker 3: No, But what I'm saying is you put like I

1866
01:51:11,840 --> 01:51:14,760
Speaker 3: was one eighty five when I checked into college and

1867
01:51:15,560 --> 01:51:16,920
Speaker 3: two eighty five when.

1868
01:51:16,800 --> 01:51:20,559
Speaker 1: I left college. Aren't we all men?

1869
01:51:20,840 --> 01:51:25,120
Speaker 3: So it was, you know, right around my sweet spot,

1870
01:51:25,240 --> 01:51:30,439
Speaker 3: like when I was around eighteen nineteen years old, I

1871
01:51:30,720 --> 01:51:36,719
Speaker 3: was around six six and a half, like two forty five,

1872
01:51:39,240 --> 01:51:41,519
Speaker 3: that that would be a problem on the basketball court,

1873
01:51:43,600 --> 01:51:48,000
Speaker 3: and so just thinking about how raw I was, we

1874
01:51:48,240 --> 01:51:50,040
Speaker 3: you know, we talked about it all the time, and

1875
01:51:50,160 --> 01:51:52,000
Speaker 3: I was like, if he lined up at tight end,

1876
01:51:52,040 --> 01:51:55,960
Speaker 3: it's nothing, it's nothing. He's huge, there's nothing you would

1877
01:51:55,960 --> 01:52:00,559
Speaker 3: have been able to do with his hands his quickness. Yeah,

1878
01:52:00,600 --> 01:52:03,840
Speaker 3: good luck. So why did you go to the NBA

1879
01:52:04,280 --> 01:52:07,240
Speaker 3: because it was a viable option? Like it like he

1880
01:52:07,439 --> 01:52:10,519
Speaker 3: was literally saying, like, if the NBA wasn't a viable option,

1881
01:52:10,600 --> 01:52:11,679
Speaker 3: I would have chose football.

1882
01:52:12,360 --> 01:52:13,360
Speaker 1: But most kids.

1883
01:52:13,960 --> 01:52:16,439
Speaker 3: The reason, one of the reasons I did take choose

1884
01:52:16,479 --> 01:52:19,519
Speaker 3: football is because I just I knew how I felt

1885
01:52:19,520 --> 01:52:21,679
Speaker 3: about the NBA and wanting to go to the NBA.

1886
01:52:22,120 --> 01:52:26,360
Speaker 3: I knew how everybody I knew felt about the NBA

1887
01:52:26,840 --> 01:52:28,880
Speaker 3: and wanting to go to the NBA. So I just

1888
01:52:29,040 --> 01:52:33,320
Speaker 3: multiplied that by millions of kids all over at the

1889
01:52:33,360 --> 01:52:36,920
Speaker 3: time the country, now the world, but the country, and

1890
01:52:37,080 --> 01:52:39,000
Speaker 3: nobody was talking about going to the NFL.

1891
01:52:39,560 --> 01:52:41,160
Speaker 1: Got it? You thought it was easier.

1892
01:52:41,280 --> 01:52:46,160
Speaker 3: And I'm like, fifty three men on a on an

1893
01:52:46,240 --> 01:52:49,599
Speaker 3: NFL roster, twelve on an NBA roster. I'm like, well,

1894
01:52:49,640 --> 01:52:51,120
Speaker 3: I know I can be one of the fifty three.

1895
01:52:52,920 --> 01:52:56,800
Speaker 3: I mean that sounds like a that literally My father

1896
01:52:56,880 --> 01:52:59,120
Speaker 3: and I said, Now, we talked about this, and we

1897
01:53:00,160 --> 01:53:04,280
Speaker 3: we lean towards football because basketball and football coaches from

1898
01:53:04,320 --> 01:53:06,760
Speaker 3: colleges were coming to the house, some same school like

1899
01:53:06,880 --> 01:53:09,840
Speaker 3: UCLA and all the day all came together and you know, hey,

1900
01:53:09,920 --> 01:53:11,719
Speaker 3: you can do both, and so on and so forth.

1901
01:53:11,840 --> 01:53:13,640
Speaker 3: So he was like, hey, man, eventually I got to

1902
01:53:13,680 --> 01:53:19,160
Speaker 3: make a decision. So I love the game of basketball.

1903
01:53:19,280 --> 01:53:24,280
Speaker 3: I study it, I coach it. I'm I'm I have

1904
01:53:24,400 --> 01:53:27,439
Speaker 3: a love for baseball because I've studied it, I coach it.

1905
01:53:28,240 --> 01:53:31,759
Speaker 3: I never grew up playing baseball, so when my kids started,

1906
01:53:32,400 --> 01:53:34,360
Speaker 3: that was like, oh, I at least I've got to

1907
01:53:34,920 --> 01:53:38,120
Speaker 3: be a part of this, you know. So I'm a face,

1908
01:53:38,200 --> 01:53:41,599
Speaker 3: I'm a first base coach, and you know, we're out

1909
01:53:41,640 --> 01:53:45,040
Speaker 3: there and we're plugging at thinking what eight eight years

1910
01:53:45,120 --> 01:53:50,760
Speaker 3: in now in baseball. So you know, I enjoyed being

1911
01:53:50,840 --> 01:53:53,200
Speaker 3: in my kids life and and and coaching them and

1912
01:53:53,360 --> 01:53:56,360
Speaker 3: and having fun. And but I'm a fan of sports.

1913
01:53:56,520 --> 01:53:59,720
Speaker 3: Love love you know, soccer, love the you know, I

1914
01:53:59,800 --> 01:54:00,599
Speaker 3: love the Olympics.

1915
01:54:01,000 --> 01:54:03,040
Speaker 1: You know, indeed, you know.

1916
01:54:03,520 --> 01:54:09,479
Speaker 2: All of the little all of the the sports do

1917
01:54:09,600 --> 01:54:13,480
Speaker 2: we never get to see, you know, I love it Trampoline.

1918
01:54:13,520 --> 01:54:15,960
Speaker 2: Oh I can watch trampoline all night, Caroline, all of it.

1919
01:54:16,040 --> 01:54:16,519
Speaker 1: Oh, I love it.

1920
01:54:18,160 --> 01:54:21,080
Speaker 3: But look I love the story. I love I love competing.

1921
01:54:24,200 --> 01:54:28,479
Speaker 3: So it's you know, this is a perfect outlet for me.

1922
01:54:28,720 --> 01:54:31,519
Speaker 3: In terms of talking about sports, and of course football

1923
01:54:31,600 --> 01:54:33,880
Speaker 3: dominates and basketball dominates in this country.

1924
01:54:33,960 --> 01:54:39,240
Speaker 1: But you know, I'm a fan, I love it and

1925
01:54:39,400 --> 01:54:41,520
Speaker 1: live from the tyrag dot com studios.

1926
01:54:41,560 --> 01:54:43,360
Speaker 2: And one of the comments you made as a fan

1927
01:54:43,560 --> 01:54:46,600
Speaker 2: last week is where we need to go next because

1928
01:54:47,400 --> 01:54:50,800
Speaker 2: you predicted that Kevin Durant would be traded. I wonder

1929
01:54:50,840 --> 01:54:53,440
Speaker 2: if you still feel the same way now that Budenholzer

1930
01:54:54,040 --> 01:54:56,800
Speaker 2: has been hired. So we'll do that coming up next

1931
01:54:57,200 --> 01:54:59,640
Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio. All right, we're in the tire

1932
01:54:59,720 --> 01:55:04,840
Speaker 2: Rag Studios, Mark Willardery from Salon Plank and Spend. You're

1933
01:55:04,880 --> 01:55:08,120
Speaker 2: gonna be here in just about twelve minutes, so hang

1934
01:55:08,240 --> 01:55:12,880
Speaker 2: out and we'll find out if the New York Knicks

1935
01:55:12,920 --> 01:55:16,280
Speaker 2: are still going to get their revenge on the entire world.

1936
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Speaker 1: You still think Kevin Durant's gonna get traded? Yes? You do?

1937
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Speaker 1: Is Bradley Bill still there? Yes? I mean unless, I mean,

1938
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Speaker 1: in my opinion, it really wasn't the coach. It was.

1939
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Speaker 2: The structure of the team. Well defense for offense. Yeah,

1940
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Speaker 2: tell me more about that though.

1941
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Speaker 1: So so what do you do?

1942
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Speaker 3: Are you someone has to go? Obviously it's this three

1943
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Speaker 3: headed monster is not going to work because it hasn't worked,

1944
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Speaker 3: and bringing someone in and trying to make them make

1945
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Speaker 3: you work with the same parts is a crazy thing

1946
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Speaker 3: to do.

1947
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Speaker 2: Well, I'm simply gathering by what I see what's actually

1948
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Speaker 2: going on now. I do have some insight on how

1949
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Speaker 2: things felt in the locker room there. They're definitely not

1950
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Speaker 2: at each other's throats. It wasn't like that, but it

1951
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Speaker 2: just never jelled and there was no alpha. Devin Booker

1952
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Speaker 2: and Kevin Durant are both like sort of like alpha minus, Like, yes, right,

1953
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Speaker 2: they're leaders, but they don't. They're not like that. They're

1954
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Speaker 2: super nice guys. That's maybe part of the problem. But

1955
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Speaker 2: here's what I gather. Follow the timeline. They get absolutely

1956
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Speaker 2: beaten out of the playoffs in embarrassing fashion. Within a

1957
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Speaker 2: few days, you're getting like the sham. WoDES reports that

1958
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Speaker 2: Durant didn't love how he was being used. Okay, because

1959
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Speaker 2: that doesn't sound just like a bad fit. That sounds like, eh,

1960
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Speaker 2: the coach didn't know how to use me. He put

1961
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Speaker 2: me in the corner and he just had me stand

1962
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Speaker 2: there like I'm Kevin Durant.

1963
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Speaker 1: Okay.

1964
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Speaker 2: That was the first thing that happened. The second thing

1965
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Speaker 2: that happened. Press conference is helled. James Jones is sitting

1966
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Speaker 2: there doing all he can everything but openly beg Kevin

1967
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Speaker 2: Durant to stay. He holds a press conference where he

1968
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Speaker 2: talks about how no one has figured out how to

1969
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Speaker 2: maximize Kevin Durant. Other teams around the league, Warriors, Oklahoma

1970
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Speaker 2: City chuckle, but he says, no one's ever figured out

1971
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Speaker 2: how to do it, and we are hell bent on

1972
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Speaker 2: doing it because that's our future Hall of Famer. Essentially,

1973
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Speaker 2: we're going to make it all about Kevin Durant. I'm

1974
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Speaker 2: sitting here going has anybody checked on Devin Booker late?

1975
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Speaker 2: How does he feel about this press conference? That's number one?

1976
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Speaker 2: But number two that didn't to me sound like a

1977
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Speaker 2: good press conference to hold. Then the third thing that happens,

1978
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Speaker 2: you fire the coach. Fourth thing that happens, you hire

1979
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Speaker 2: a big name coach with a championship resume. You put

1980
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Speaker 2: all that together and it feels to me very similar

1981
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Speaker 2: to the conversation we had off the top of the show.

1982
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Speaker 1: Which it doesn't mean Kevin Durant's making the decisions, but

1983
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Speaker 1: they are.

1984
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Speaker 2: All all being made with him in mind, right, But

1985
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Speaker 2: so you're gonna do all those things and then trade him.

1986
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Speaker 3: So what we do know for sure is Kevin Durant

1987
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Speaker 3: will ask out no matter what you do. Maybe, yeah,

1988
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Speaker 3: I mean because that's been his history, that's been his

1989
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Speaker 3: three They gave him everything he wanted. In Brooklyn, he

1990
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Speaker 3: wanted out. He had everything he could ever ask for.

1991
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Speaker 3: In Golden State, he wanted out. So I mean they

1992
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Speaker 3: built the whole team around him. In Okay, see, he

1993
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Speaker 3: wanted out. So what would lead you to believe anything different?

1994
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Speaker 3: I mean he had Steve Kerr as a coach. Yeah,

1995
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Speaker 3: then he had a hand picked coach. He had a

1996
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Speaker 3: hand picked coach and Steve Nash At Brooklyn he wanted out.

1997
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Speaker 3: So you telling me, well, they're trying to anything to me,

1998
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Speaker 3: I'm just going off his past behavior. The fact that

1999
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Speaker 3: Bradley Bill is still there with the crazy contract that

2000
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Speaker 3: no one will ever take it means he's going to

2001
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Speaker 3: be there. Devin Booker isn't going anywhere. How is it

2002
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Speaker 3: going to work with someone different? No matter what you

2003
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Speaker 3: drow up for Kevin Durant in basketball, the ball still moves.

2004
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Speaker 2: I didn't say it was going to work. I just

2005
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Speaker 2: don't know, Okay, Okay, I don't know that the Sons

2006
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Speaker 2: are going to do it. No one said the Sons

2007
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Speaker 2: were smart, Okay, yeah, a brand new ownership group that

2008
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Speaker 2: does not want to ruffle feathers too.

2009
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but at this point I think, I mean, they're

2010
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Speaker 3: eating that contract, right. It was one it was one

2011
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Speaker 3: year into a five year, thirty one dollar ye, So

2012
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Speaker 3: they're eating that. So what could you get on the

2013
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Speaker 3: open market for Kevin Durant? Could you make your team.

2014
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Speaker 2: Quite a lot, quite a lot good stuff tonight, Buden,

2015
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Speaker 2: great great chatting with you for it from Slamma, Mark

2016
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Speaker 2: Willard playing can spend your next