Speaker 1: Welcome back all the smoke, Episode ten. Yes, finishing out
Speaker 1: the new year. Man, we're about to get into the
Speaker 1: decade of two thousand ten to two thousand twenties and
Speaker 1: how wild and transcending it was for the game of
Speaker 1: basketball where we were in the mix of all this
Speaker 1: and we're gonna sit back and have fun and remin
Speaker 1: that's a little bit. I'm cool, you're ready to do that.
Speaker 1: Good to see you. Man' been on a little buddy down.
Speaker 1: Yeah you mean it's because code out here took my jacket.
Speaker 1: This most take your hat out real quick. Oh you
Speaker 1: ain't got just like when you ain't got no hang
Speaker 1: it's coming. You know, you look like one of the
Speaker 1: badass little kids. Like you're a little badass little kids.
Speaker 1: But it's taking me back to it's taking me. You know,
Speaker 1: last time I had my hair like this, I was
Speaker 1: going to in the stands. Be careful? Do you care
Speaker 1: for alright? Man? So let's jump right into this two
Speaker 1: thousand and ten Man, I was third. It's crazy though,
Speaker 1: cause we go decade by decade, Like I was born
Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty, so every decade I'm I'm jumping into
Speaker 1: a whole new you know, set a number, so I'm
Speaker 1: pulling up on forty one, forty two. Yeah. So the
Speaker 1: two thousand ten season, where were you at ten? I
Speaker 1: was who knows, Charlotte maybe, Yeah, that's right. I left
Speaker 1: the Orlando going to the Lakers and we beat you
Speaker 1: guys in the in the playoffs that year. So this
Speaker 1: is where you know we start. We pick up with Lebron.
Speaker 1: This is Lebron losing to the Celtics two out of
Speaker 1: three years and in the tunnel takes off his jersey.
Speaker 1: You knew it was over. I think everyone thought something
Speaker 1: was going on as a fresh Dade where you been
Speaker 1: playing basketball all day, you can't win the game and
Speaker 1: you're playing good with your team, So are you just
Speaker 1: god quit? I just had enough that takes us to
Speaker 1: the decision. I love the fact that Lebron pretty much
Speaker 1: changed the landscape of basketball from a standpoint of a
Speaker 1: player finally being empowered to do what he wants to do.
Speaker 1: So often we know it's a business, so when teams
Speaker 1: cut us, trade us, wave us, don't play us, funk
Speaker 1: us somehow because with the business. But when players start
Speaker 1: taking control of their narrative and and doing what it's
Speaker 1: best for them, in their brand and their family. They're
Speaker 1: the bad gut of the villain. I think the only
Speaker 1: to me, the only place he made a mistake was
Speaker 1: drawn that long as sitting down. It just I'm gone,
Speaker 1: you know, or just to me, he could have tightened
Speaker 1: it up. It should have been a spectacle. It could
Speaker 1: it could have just been more of like, hey, you know,
Speaker 1: I decided to, you know, make this new move to Miami.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. I agree with you on
Speaker 1: that too. But like for what he's done for so
Speaker 1: many players, like I just love the fact that he
Speaker 1: did it his way. Like I'm not mad at it.
Speaker 1: I'm at it if I was in braun shoes and
Speaker 1: that I could imagine robe out showed a rose raw security. Oh,
Speaker 1: it's like, man, chill out, men. You know what I said,
Speaker 1: I've been doing a little thing walking down for thirty
Speaker 1: chains on Like then listens, I know y'all want to
Speaker 1: know what I'm doing. You know, out of did I
Speaker 1: did that times? Tim? Like I said, I'm not mad.
Speaker 1: I just think to me it could have just it
Speaker 1: rubbed some people the wrong way. But I think the
Speaker 1: moment overall was amazing for athletes and when they let
Speaker 1: me know something about Lebron. He don't give a funk
Speaker 1: with nobody think Bro, That's why I love it. You
Speaker 1: don't give a funk. I'm gonna do it my way.
Speaker 1: I know. I could go out there and who everybody asked,
Speaker 1: and hey, y'all can love it and leave it. You
Speaker 1: got to take it. And when everybody was watching, I
Speaker 1: mean even me, I'm sitting there watching where are you going?
Speaker 1: Where he going? He had the whole world watching. Bro.
Speaker 1: That was super bad. I'm not mad. Boys and Girls
Speaker 1: Club or something like that. It ended up ended up
Speaker 1: being away. He was giving back at the same time.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, what people didn't know. He
Speaker 1: always make it work. But anyway, so this is the
Speaker 1: beginning of super teams. This is a swing and the
Speaker 1: historical build through the draft and and hopefully get some
Speaker 1: good trades to build your team. This is superstars leaving
Speaker 1: their respective teams and building a team. Um. It was.
Speaker 1: It was scary though, because when when when Braun first
Speaker 1: went to Miami, everybody was like, oh my god, they've
Speaker 1: been dominated and they lose the first year. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying to me, like what it is just
Speaker 1: big three ships even gonna work, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But time right, Like we always talk about chemistry, and
Speaker 1: like I said, could always look good on paper, but
Speaker 1: you got to get that chemistry down. I think they
Speaker 1: learned from that. That was the year I was with
Speaker 1: the Lakers. I tore my knee going into the playoffs.
Speaker 1: We were going for a three pet Dallas beat the
Speaker 1: dog shit out of us, swept us, Jason Terry here
Speaker 1: like ten threes in one game, and then they ended
Speaker 1: up beating ya, Lebron and them and uh in the
Speaker 1: finals Dirk only Chip, Yeah, that's the one die. Ye.
Speaker 1: Those were good times. I wasn't in the two thousand
Speaker 1: times that. We'll get to that another time. Um. It's
Speaker 1: also kind of the be getting of of of social
Speaker 1: activism to speak to, you know, coming up in the
Speaker 1: years ahead of that, that's when Uh, I think Lebron
Speaker 1: in the whole Miami Heat team had the trade on
Speaker 1: Martin hoodies on and the Eric Gardner I can't breathe.
Speaker 1: I think it was the following year, so I think
Speaker 1: that was kind of the first time him opening those doors,
Speaker 1: like I said, for the rest of us. I think
Speaker 1: with his move to Miami, he opened up for players
Speaker 1: to kind of take control, and then with his lead,
Speaker 1: he kind of opened up our platform to kind of
Speaker 1: speak more on social events, not just sports, and things
Speaker 1: that we really feel that are near and dear. Time
Speaker 1: that one was the last time the face of the
Speaker 1: NBA did that. I led that, the face of sports
Speaker 1: led it. That's what I'm saying. When when was the last?
Speaker 1: Definitely was so big superstar I think we've ever had,
Speaker 1: and in any sport. I think it's come because he
Speaker 1: really comes from it, right. It ain't too many superstars
Speaker 1: that actually come from the mud don't really come from it,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And I think he sees
Speaker 1: things different. I wish people would just kind of understand,
Speaker 1: even though not just Lebron, but you know great players.
Speaker 1: I think we get so caught up in we're in
Speaker 1: the social media world, so you you're riding for your
Speaker 1: team or you want to just hate on guys instead
Speaker 1: of sitting back and realize, like you're witnessing history with
Speaker 1: some of these guys. But k D with Staff, for Lebron,
Speaker 1: with Kobe, and then it's crazy you see more slammer
Speaker 1: than you just not that they need praise or look
Speaker 1: for praise, but just you see more hate than you
Speaker 1: see love, not really realizing and in a moment of
Speaker 1: time when we look back on it's for fifty sixty
Speaker 1: seven years old, like we witness some of the greatest
Speaker 1: players ever to play this game. I'll think about it
Speaker 1: a lot because not not have ten times when somebody
Speaker 1: asked me about basketball, they're asking me about Tim Duncan.
Speaker 1: Said yeah, I said, I said, you're not out at
Speaker 1: ten times. Not out at ten times when people ask
Speaker 1: me about basketball, they asked me about Tim Duncan. Siries,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you about it later. Yeah, but Tim Duncan
Speaker 1: is you know people ask me about Tim Duncan like
Speaker 1: this is the best power for them all time in
Speaker 1: my mind. You know it might not be to everybody,
Speaker 1: but to be able to play with him and him
Speaker 1: to embrace me, to see him on let's get a
Speaker 1: quadruple double all the way through the playoffs into the finals,
Speaker 1: like that stuff with Special Man, and even to come
Speaker 1: in to see for to play against Jay Kid at
Speaker 1: that time in the finals, like wow, like he was unbelievable. Bro.
Speaker 1: I think we just get it. We get a different
Speaker 1: perspective objects because we're out there doing it. But I
Speaker 1: mean we see the greatest and understand how hard it
Speaker 1: is to do what they're doing. But I think from
Speaker 1: the outside looking in, we just live in the day
Speaker 1: and time where it's it's it's almost weak to show love,
Speaker 1: or to show respect, or or to pray someone. It's
Speaker 1: just a lot easier people think to just hate on people.
Speaker 1: It's so it's so much easy. And that's the gift
Speaker 1: in the curse from social media. You know, it's a
Speaker 1: lot of players such as ourselves to who were labeled
Speaker 1: one way in the game to show the world we are.
Speaker 1: You know, we both were just talking about this off camera.
Speaker 1: That definitely that we've been able to grow a brand
Speaker 1: that's going to be much bigger than our basketball brand,
Speaker 1: you know, post career, and that's because of social media
Speaker 1: and the way we could really kind of we're both
Speaker 1: labeled this thugs, gang bangers, bad this, bad that. But
Speaker 1: the one thing we both always had in common with
Speaker 1: our teammates loved us, you know. I mean, so it
Speaker 1: was just a misconception and what the world thought I
Speaker 1: thought we were, you know back in the day when
Speaker 1: we you know, coming into this this decade, there wasn't
Speaker 1: really social media, you know what I mean. Like Twitter
Speaker 1: had just kind of started going in their own and
Speaker 1: we didn't really have much of a voice, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. So if the media painted us one way,
Speaker 1: that's what we were, you know what I mean. And
Speaker 1: I think that the emergence of social media has given
Speaker 1: us outlets and giving us all platforms, but also growing
Speaker 1: the game tremendously to make it what it is today
Speaker 1: and for guys to make the money it is today.
Speaker 1: I think a lot has to do with social media
Speaker 1: and guys growing their brands. It's a gifting the curse
Speaker 1: though definitely. You know. It was one of the high
Speaker 1: school kid his name is Dio on Instagram, and he
Speaker 1: was talking about how some of these blogs be making
Speaker 1: certain players look good and blowing them up, and then
Speaker 1: when they step up to him like they really ain't
Speaker 1: that good. He said, you don't. He don't even want
Speaker 1: to be on you want to you don't want to
Speaker 1: be a part of that, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: He wanted he want to stay real, And a lot
Speaker 1: of kids these days were like in the NBA, the
Speaker 1: get caught up in the social media world. It ain't
Speaker 1: real what they and and and and they feel like
Speaker 1: they sudden they're not you know what'cause they reallyn't even
Speaker 1: have to earn a spot no more. I've heard this
Speaker 1: from me, and they player like, God, young guys don't
Speaker 1: even show up early no more. A lot of this
Speaker 1: stuff has changed, and it's because of social media. They
Speaker 1: got them feeling themselves, Oh my goodness, super confident and
Speaker 1: a million followers is over touch back onto. It was
Speaker 1: a big thing, like I said, kind of piggybacking on
Speaker 1: the off the social media platform. When Lebron Wade CPM
Speaker 1: mellow uh spoke up at the piece, you know, just
Speaker 1: kind of speaking on all the violence and and and
Speaker 1: the killings in the in the senseless acts that we
Speaker 1: continue to watch day by day, and I think that
Speaker 1: was huge. Like I said, having kids, we know that
Speaker 1: it just kind of resonates when athletes said, you know
Speaker 1: so before sure, but then there's no question then for
Speaker 1: But I just think, you know, when we start using
Speaker 1: our voice, our voices heard around the world, you know,
Speaker 1: and that's the kind of attention I think we need
Speaker 1: you to continue to bring to the bullshit that was
Speaker 1: happening in the streets with the unjust killings and just
Speaker 1: where we were as a society. So, like I said,
Speaker 1: you continue to thank these guys for using their platform
Speaker 1: and opening up these doors. We could jump into a
Speaker 1: situation too, but both of us kind of went through.
Speaker 1: Donald Sterling. You mean, this is to the two thousand thirteen,
Speaker 1: two thousand and fourteen season. You know, I was with
Speaker 1: were obviously the Clippers. We felt like, you know, we
Speaker 1: had created a new vibe over there and we really
Speaker 1: had a chance to win the championship. So you know,
Speaker 1: if you if you keep in mind, we were the
Speaker 1: last team to kind of beat the Warriors before they
Speaker 1: had their dynasty run, you know, so we felt like
Speaker 1: we had some special we kept, you know, getting each
Speaker 1: other's way. That's another time. But something that happened during
Speaker 1: the playoffs that year was the tapes dropped it Downald Sterling,
Speaker 1: and you were on our team for a little bit
Speaker 1: that right before that happened. But you know, you took
Speaker 1: it one crazy way, and we talked about it off
Speaker 1: camera that I even know how you felt, because we
Speaker 1: hadn't really talked about it because you've already gone by
Speaker 1: the time you hit and then we took it one way.
Speaker 1: But tell me how you took it like I was
Speaker 1: already at the end of my career, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? And I think need be. So you was
Speaker 1: on some n w A ship I was. I was
Speaker 1: on my black Panther ship anyway. But being cut cut
Speaker 1: before that happened, it was a blessing in disguise. Oh
Speaker 1: my goodness, because I would have I was just left
Speaker 1: the team. I wouldn't showed up. I wouldn't show up
Speaker 1: to the more games I would have been. I would
Speaker 1: have been outside of the fans, burning the jerseys. Oh
Speaker 1: all that too, burning trees, for sure. But I have
Speaker 1: been burning all the joys I've been. I've been protesting too,
Speaker 1: but I've been I've just heard as the fans. You
Speaker 1: made a song with face though, didn't you. I made
Speaker 1: a song called America the Beautiful about the whole situation.
Speaker 1: How I felt, you know, I felt. I was like,
Speaker 1: is it a quarter as a cotton field? And that's
Speaker 1: that's how he made it look about, you know, And
Speaker 1: it was it was just upsetting to me, knowing how
Speaker 1: much we played the game, you know, how much we
Speaker 1: love the game. To know that somebody that you know
Speaker 1: that that's benefiting off what we love to do feels
Speaker 1: like that about it, you know what I mean, real
Speaker 1: quick product. But where can they find that song? America
Speaker 1: the Beautiful. You can find that on iTunes and you
Speaker 1: can find it YouTube. We need to set a statement,
Speaker 1: scar face, scarface plug your ship and begging to get
Speaker 1: them download and trying to get you them download. We
Speaker 1: took it different, you know what I mean. And I
Speaker 1: think you know, the ship hit like out the blue.
Speaker 1: We're in Golden State right before game four, you know,
Speaker 1: and and then Lincoln we found on social media, and
Speaker 1: my reaction I think was different from other people's reaction.
Speaker 1: But like I touched on on on that shown episode
Speaker 1: last time we're here, I faced real racism, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like Mannekins died nigger swasticks all over
Speaker 1: my school. Like I faced real racism. So they here
Speaker 1: old A's rich white man say speak to to the
Speaker 1: black culture that way. It didn't really trip me out because,
Speaker 1: like I said, like you just touched on, He's definitely
Speaker 1: not the only one that thought that when he was
Speaker 1: the only one dumb enough to get to get caught
Speaker 1: by a snake of a a snake, a rat neck
Speaker 1: ass goat mouth as woman who was dealing. Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: you know what I means. So to me, it didn't
Speaker 1: really trip me out. So like we as we kind
Speaker 1: of start, you know, kind of start spreading, like well
Speaker 1: if are texting each other, like yo, this ship just
Speaker 1: really happened. He just said that ship and so we
Speaker 1: you know, next next day we come in and Doc
Speaker 1: handled it beautifully. I think this is the first thing
Speaker 1: for the new commissioner, the first thing on the new
Speaker 1: Commissioner's plate, and then this is our first year with Doc,
Speaker 1: and Doc was the shield for our team, doctors just like, hey,
Speaker 1: you know, first he thought, he asked what we thought,
Speaker 1: and when everyone kind of expressed our opinion, he said,
Speaker 1: whatever you do, kind of do it together. But then
Speaker 1: Doctors kind of the shield for our team like he wanted,
Speaker 1: you know. He obviously everyone knew it was the worst
Speaker 1: time to have this ship drop, but he was the
Speaker 1: only one to talk to the medi about it. He
Speaker 1: addressed all the questions and we were just allowed to
Speaker 1: go out there and try to focus, try to play.
Speaker 1: We heard hell of ship. You know, you guys shouldn't play,
Speaker 1: You should boycott. How can you play for a racist owner?
Speaker 1: How can you do this? How can you do that?
Speaker 1: And I'm thinking, like, y'all know, I mean, first of all,
Speaker 1: we feel like we have a good enough team to
Speaker 1: win the championship. But yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So they say something, are you just not gonna go
Speaker 1: to work? You know what I mean? So, like I said,
Speaker 1: it was never we were never playing for Sterling. We
Speaker 1: were always playing for us and trying to build our
Speaker 1: own tradition. They're trying to get the Clippers, you know,
Speaker 1: from being a doormat to a respectable team. So we
Speaker 1: got all kinds of crazy you guys should do this,
Speaker 1: you guys should do that. But we just sat down
Speaker 1: and talked, and we threw ideas out there, and I
Speaker 1: actually came up with, you know, let's flip our ships
Speaker 1: inside out and when we get out there, thomb on
Speaker 1: the ground and kind of just let everyone know. We
Speaker 1: know what he said was wrong, what he did was wrong,
Speaker 1: but we have a bigger goal. And then never had
Speaker 1: anything to do with him from the beginning. You think
Speaker 1: that just that however, and over y'all pay no. I mean,
Speaker 1: we got our asses blowing out in game four, if
Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken, but we ended up winning the
Speaker 1: series and seven and then we were up three one
Speaker 1: against Houston and we tricked that off. So I don't
Speaker 1: think you know, it was noise, but it was. You
Speaker 1: can't blame us tricking ship off on that. It was
Speaker 1: just another distraction and we gonna deal with not the
Speaker 1: right motivation, not not from your owner, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, not from the situation, and then you know,
Speaker 1: so it was just it was definitely a black guy.
Speaker 1: But like I said, it was a chance for Adam Silver,
Speaker 1: you know, the kind of okay, your first year on
Speaker 1: the job that you're you're you know, what are you
Speaker 1: gonna do? And it's amazing. I think that's when he
Speaker 1: kind of show people, Okay, you know, I'm ready for
Speaker 1: this heavy lifting. He did what he's supposed to do.
Speaker 1: We got to do without the league, and we've been
Speaker 1: moving on ever since. So this is also a time,
Speaker 1: you know, within that two thousand, fifteen, sixteen seventeen era,
Speaker 1: when we kind of start losing pillars that you know,
Speaker 1: we're great in our time. You know, this is when
Speaker 1: a window of time when Tim retired, Kobe retired, Dirk McGuire,
Speaker 1: I think d Wade was the last one to leave
Speaker 1: Paul Peers retired. Yeah, Kevin Garnett retired. We lost some
Speaker 1: greats of the game, and it was kind of a
Speaker 1: changing of the guard. Although you know, arguably Brown was
Speaker 1: still the best player at that time. You know, Kobe
Speaker 1: was obviously right there, you know, and there was a
Speaker 1: time where Kobe was the best player in the world.
Speaker 1: But we lost you know, guys that carried this league
Speaker 1: for fifteen, you know, twenty years, So it was a
Speaker 1: crazy time. And you know, you've got a chance to
Speaker 1: play with Tim and you know, I got a chance
Speaker 1: to play of a Kobe. I had great battles with Garnette.
Speaker 1: Garnette was a motherfucking dog. I wish he was. I
Speaker 1: did a radio interview last night with some Warrior people
Speaker 1: and we were They brought the we belief thing. But
Speaker 1: how true was the US getting chemical Garnett? Do you know?
Speaker 1: Because you were you were Nellie's right hand and went
Speaker 1: Nellie his dog, and then Jack he were a black
Speaker 1: step step son. I basually was, yeah, shout out Nelly. Sure.
Speaker 1: I didn't hear nothing about it, bro, So you didn't
Speaker 1: know if we were actually or with that rumor or anything.
Speaker 1: I honestly think I honestly know for a fact that
Speaker 1: they would about heard anything about KG. I would have
Speaker 1: said something to y'all. Can you imagine though, if KG
Speaker 1: would have came Dow we believed team that ship would
Speaker 1: have been sick me. I don't even want to think
Speaker 1: about it. Bro. Yeah, we passed that stop reminiscent. But
Speaker 1: like I said, it was it was not damn that
Speaker 1: KG b d you Monte Petrice could have been ugly,
Speaker 1: danger could have been ugly. And like I said, changing
Speaker 1: of the guards. These guys are on their way out.
Speaker 1: New guys are are are rising. Like I said, Lebron
Speaker 1: kind of had the throne at that time, but shortly
Speaker 1: after that we get we get Kaua comes on the
Speaker 1: site and thrown at that time, Yeah, what you mean
Speaker 1: he's been on the throne for how long? See minute?
Speaker 1: How long is that? So? How long has Lebron been up?
Speaker 1: With him and Kobe overlapping? Because it was, you know,
Speaker 1: only those two at the time we're considered probably you know,
Speaker 1: how long was Broun the best player? To you? I
Speaker 1: think Broun has been the best player in the league
Speaker 1: every year, said his first two years. I think from
Speaker 1: from his third year old he's been the best playing
Speaker 1: in the league. To me, I'm not mad at that.
Speaker 1: From his third year old, he just dominated. That's when
Speaker 1: he just all around. Oh my goodness, I just gotta
Speaker 1: give him his card. From his third year old, Lebron
Speaker 1: has been the best plan of the league. With guys
Speaker 1: like Tim Duncan and KG and all those guys being
Speaker 1: really and Kobe, all those guys, he's been the best
Speaker 1: in the teams. He took to the finals. He was
Speaker 1: going to the finals every year. Why those guys were
Speaker 1: in the league every year with whoever he had. Let's go,
Speaker 1: get on my back. You want to come Okay, you
Speaker 1: know what you're going right, We're going to the finals.
Speaker 1: Come on. I'm not mad at that. I'm mad at that. So,
Speaker 1: like I said, with with with the pillars of the
Speaker 1: of the community, the Elder Statesman's kind of exiting, this
Speaker 1: is like like I said, Lebron's at the top, and
Speaker 1: then you have Janice Is coming in. You have kauai
Speaker 1: is making the name for themselves, Steph Clay and Draymond.
Speaker 1: When with what the Warriors did, k D and Russ
Speaker 1: and Harden, all these new guys are ready to step
Speaker 1: up and be that wave of player and and and
Speaker 1: the game itself has changed as well, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. It used to be uh something we both
Speaker 1: hung our has almost playing defense, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: And that and that is on its way out as
Speaker 1: we're finishing as players. But you know, with this new
Speaker 1: almost like call of life, you know, the what was
Speaker 1: it called in baseball? When when? When? When the home
Speaker 1: run ball was going? This it's kind of just a
Speaker 1: just a new era of just crazy scoring and and
Speaker 1: style of play. And I think a lot has to
Speaker 1: do with the Warriors, you know what I mean. People
Speaker 1: always say you live by the three, died by the three.
Speaker 1: But you know, Stephen and Clay and and these guys
Speaker 1: changed the game. Well people don't understand though they did
Speaker 1: change the game. But they changed the game by having
Speaker 1: two of the best shooters ever. They played the same
Speaker 1: way we played. We just didn't make this money. We
Speaker 1: just didn't make it men shot we went. But people
Speaker 1: talked about defense. Every year they in the top ten defensively,
Speaker 1: So people talk about they're not playing deepense. Their offense
Speaker 1: makes them have great defense. So people have to stop
Speaker 1: saying that they don't play d because there was always
Speaker 1: one of the top defensive James every year they wanted,
Speaker 1: but I think two from the fact of, like you said,
Speaker 1: although they were the greatest shooters, it was just it
Speaker 1: was always you know, you hear the TNT crew that
Speaker 1: you can't win with the three ball. You can't do
Speaker 1: this with the three ball and the and they proved
Speaker 1: the game wrong. And now with just this newer gen
Speaker 1: narration of kids coming up, it's about shooting threes. And
Speaker 1: I go to AU games and I tell you, yes,
Speaker 1: you go ten possessions and then nobody touched the paint.
Speaker 1: Bro it goes everybody's watching. You know that the key
Speaker 1: to the offense back in the day was it had
Speaker 1: to touch the paint. You know what I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: work inside out, and now it's worked out and further
Speaker 1: out and further out half court, which is crazy from
Speaker 1: the logo with all these big six nine, six, ten,
Speaker 1: two sixty two fifty two fluid guys moving, a little
Speaker 1: dude you know named Steph Curry comes in and and
Speaker 1: and and finds a way to be effective, not being athletic,
Speaker 1: as a strong, as big as these guys, but just
Speaker 1: as effective, if not more. Yo. Yo. The question he
Speaker 1: got the whole package. We can handle the ball like
Speaker 1: no package. And you saw him early on. I mean
Speaker 1: you were his teammate. We drafted kind of the end
Speaker 1: of what our team was with, you know, Monte and you,
Speaker 1: You and Monte hung around. You asked to be traded, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1: When when they drafted, like they all, y'all was gone,
Speaker 1: all my home was going. Everybody I was around, obviously,
Speaker 1: no one new stuff is gonna be. I had no clue,
Speaker 1: I had no long I was with like a mother
Speaker 1: two And the time wasn't good because at the time
Speaker 1: I was within Brandon Jenn's game fifty five. So I
Speaker 1: didn't see that. I didn't see this step with that day.
Speaker 1: I didn't see that happening. But he should prove me
Speaker 1: wrong and a lot of people wrong. I absolutely agree.
Speaker 1: Also to think to how you know, now we can
Speaker 1: kind of touch on that that that Warrior running that
Speaker 1: Warrior dynasty. How they built you know, like I said,
Speaker 1: Lebron took it to you know, teams, I'm going to
Speaker 1: where I want to go and come join me. And
Speaker 1: then the Warriors did it the old traditional way, you know,
Speaker 1: through through through great draft picks and three great draft
Speaker 1: and and you know, front office moves and strategic moves.
Speaker 1: You know, Jerry West was in that mix, you know,
Speaker 1: Bob Myers and the rest of the crew they were in.
Speaker 1: They're kind of constructing that team in it and it
Speaker 1: kind of like, Okay, well damn, they did it the
Speaker 1: right way, you know what I mean. And then you
Speaker 1: look at Philly trusting the process. They did it the
Speaker 1: right way, you know what I mean. So's there's kinda
Speaker 1: do we see what way it's gonna work? You know?
Speaker 1: Now we've kind of have a little bit more parody
Speaker 1: where it's kind of more two stars and three stars.
Speaker 1: But do you see it staying come play with me,
Speaker 1: or do you see it kind of going back to
Speaker 1: the old traditional way of you know, building through the draft.
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna it's got to come play with me.
Speaker 1: Let's build our team, my homeworking most it's gonna stay there.
Speaker 1: It's gonna stay there because that's the only way you
Speaker 1: can win. Now it's too late to go back to
Speaker 1: the other way. You go back to the other way,
Speaker 1: you're gonna be at the bottom of the battle. You
Speaker 1: have to team up with guys. Too many, too many
Speaker 1: teams are good and too many teams have two or
Speaker 1: three All Stars, they might not make it to the
Speaker 1: All Star Game, and they may put up All Star numbers.
Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot of teams like that. So
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna stay with guys going to continue
Speaker 1: to try to play with each other because the guys
Speaker 1: want to win now, and guys want to be lawal
Speaker 1: like Dame. Literally, you want to show some largy. So
Speaker 1: it's good that they can make a move and get
Speaker 1: a guy like car Melo to add to their team.
Speaker 1: They can get big fellow back, they can have a
Speaker 1: good chance to win it. So I think I think
Speaker 1: guys want to stay law you and win it. But
Speaker 1: at the same time, they're gonna they still recruiting guys
Speaker 1: of the situation. Yeah, and like I said, the process
Speaker 1: takes too long, and we live in a time and
Speaker 1: age where trusting the process is going to get a
Speaker 1: whole bunch of head coaches fired and and and management
Speaker 1: fired and you know tread exactly. So it's it's really now,
Speaker 1: like I said, the door has been opened. I think
Speaker 1: the Warriors are kind of an exception, but even they,
Speaker 1: you know, we're able to recruit, you know, Kde and
Speaker 1: kind of solidify their dynasty. So I think I agree
Speaker 1: with you with the game has changed and it's changed forever.
Speaker 1: When it comes to that, I mentioned previously how trust
Speaker 1: the process is the process of the Sixers took and
Speaker 1: a lot of people you know, had mixed opinions on
Speaker 1: if that is the process. They've had a handful of
Speaker 1: town of late, you know. They they've also built around
Speaker 1: em Beat and Simmons and and and did some good
Speaker 1: things around them. What do you think about them as
Speaker 1: a as a team right now? And the person that
Speaker 1: the slogan was made for and Beat trust the process.
Speaker 1: He's not happy with the process because he's the first
Speaker 1: person to speak on not having Jimmy Butler is a
Speaker 1: big problem. Choosing Tobias Harris over Jimmy. It was a
Speaker 1: big mistake they had. They had a chance to to
Speaker 1: to cater to Jimmy to keep Jimmy there. I think
Speaker 1: Jimmy is a better fit there. And he was leading
Speaker 1: those guys the guy who and be who they who
Speaker 1: they land, putting their hat on us who who the who,
Speaker 1: the big feller they team. He was the first person
Speaker 1: to say that he's upset with Jimmy Butter not being there.
Speaker 1: That is your star player for him to say that
Speaker 1: things are not right there. So they trust in the process,
Speaker 1: but they made their process took a step back when
Speaker 1: they let Jimmy go. So you don't see them having
Speaker 1: a chance to win anything. No, I wouldn't say that
Speaker 1: because they're in the East. They have a chance to
Speaker 1: still win the East. They still have heart for them
Speaker 1: and be together to paint. I think Reddick was a
Speaker 1: big loss to big loss too, you know. So that's
Speaker 1: that that's two big pieces to vetermans to two guys
Speaker 1: that can go anywhere and help any team right now.
Speaker 1: You know what I means. Jimmy Butter is an all star.
Speaker 1: So I just interesting, it's gonna be really interesting the
Speaker 1: process works and playing well. But I love Ben Simester
Speaker 1: and to me, the only way the process works is
Speaker 1: with the championship. That's right. You know that I'm not
Speaker 1: trusting it right now. You know you're not relevant. I'm
Speaker 1: not trusted it. I like them. I like that to
Speaker 1: me that they were my pick earlier to come out
Speaker 1: of the East, you know, and I haven't really wavered
Speaker 1: from that pick. So we'll see how it goes. But
Speaker 1: let's uh, let's talk about how the style of play
Speaker 1: has changed. You know, I think we got the old
Speaker 1: the taste of the old physical air. You came and
Speaker 1: went two thousand. I was two thousand, two thousand three,
Speaker 1: then actually locked in two thousand four. So we got
Speaker 1: a little bit of the hand checking physicality and in
Speaker 1: that part of the game. And that's what I loved.
Speaker 1: That's what we all knew how to play like. I
Speaker 1: still play like that. That's why that's why I'm not
Speaker 1: being playing the Big three, because the Big Big got
Speaker 1: the old old rules. It was fun. I mean, we
Speaker 1: would talk, we would talk about the dogs, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean with the hand checking, the horrid files,
Speaker 1: you know. And I think once again back to going
Speaker 1: to Mellow Nolot gotta taste it that too. And as
Speaker 1: you see, if you see Mellow playing on the court
Speaker 1: right now, you can tell he come the old school poles.
Speaker 1: He's saying funk all the doubters though he's out there
Speaker 1: playing with and I love it. He's saying funk everybody.
Speaker 1: I love it to But like his motor and his hunger,
Speaker 1: like you don't see a couple of weeks ago, there
Speaker 1: was one play where he had three offensive rebounds in
Speaker 1: the row finally went through someone's mouth, like, Yo, welcome
Speaker 1: to that's that's how we play. How we got that
Speaker 1: on some motherucker's though, Like I could tell some people
Speaker 1: Garden Mellower scared, but that's going to transfer on it
Speaker 1: to everybody on the team. It was a good pickup.
Speaker 1: It was a good pick up. But let's like I said,
Speaker 1: it went from being able to be physical to slowly
Speaker 1: like almost flag football now. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: and I tell people, you know, because I kind of
Speaker 1: think like I was one of the last of the
Speaker 1: dying brees to kind of like be like a defensive
Speaker 1: minded three in D type. You know, there's like maybe
Speaker 1: a camp maybe five or six of them the NBA now,
Speaker 1: But it was like it was kind of the end
Speaker 1: of what that kind of last real raw defense was about.
Speaker 1: And like I said, we didn't really get to play
Speaker 1: the defense they got to play, and you know obviously
Speaker 1: the eighties and nineties, but it was our form of it.
Speaker 1: But now with there being no defen and the game
Speaker 1: has grown, you know what I mean. And then you
Speaker 1: think about it strategically and from a business standpoint, like
Speaker 1: when you turn on sports and you don't want to
Speaker 1: see like a defense like an eighty three eighty nine game.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. People want to see a
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty, but you don't want to see You're right,
Speaker 1: you're we don't want to see more teams losing by
Speaker 1: forty points, you know what I mean. But you gotta
Speaker 1: think highlight wise, dunks, three pointers, transitional game like that's
Speaker 1: what the game is. So that's why it's kind of
Speaker 1: crazy that they've gone away from you can't play no
Speaker 1: defense now. I feel like if you in the NBA
Speaker 1: and you get beat by forty when the playoff time come,
Speaker 1: they need to see you to the c A tournament.
Speaker 1: There's some good teams and still done well. You know
Speaker 1: what I mean. You you gotta be careful saying like
Speaker 1: this because they want to look sit up like the
Speaker 1: Lakers lost my Remember I came with me being on
Speaker 1: the team losing my party. I'm sorry, it's a lot
Speaker 1: of points, forty dogs, it's a lot of points. I
Speaker 1: don't I would I was kicked out? Are I filed out?
Speaker 1: I'm not being I'm not being involved in. I'm not
Speaker 1: being a part of a team that losing my party.
Speaker 1: I'm getting kicked out on purpose. He already I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't even have to say, but you know I was.
Speaker 1: You can kicked out too, There's no question taking that ship.
Speaker 1: A couple of weeks ago, Joanna's dunked on Julius Randall.
Speaker 1: I think from the next My god, I just I
Speaker 1: would have had that. I would have had the swing
Speaker 1: on dude, just the birth to no drill incredible in
Speaker 1: his face, like it was just like like that's how
Speaker 1: I supposed to be. Yeah, it's big played back in
Speaker 1: the day. I like, but they would have tried to
Speaker 1: pun it. Like imagine him coming to Lane with Shack.
Speaker 1: He would have dumped on Shock one time, and Shock
Speaker 1: would have had to take all this ship out, like
Speaker 1: all of it. That's why I like, you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: I got a chance to play with Shock on the
Speaker 1: backside of Crep. But you know in his hey that
Speaker 1: we used to talk and I'm just like, you know,
Speaker 1: when someone's cooking, the guard was cooking, he would tell
Speaker 1: them to send him for the paint, and Shock would
Speaker 1: lay their ass out and they would slow their whole
Speaker 1: momentum down, you know what I mean. And I think
Speaker 1: they're like stuff like that is strategically doing ship like
Speaker 1: that and then kind of in four I missed that
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. You know what I want to say
Speaker 1: about I got a story by saying I had the
Speaker 1: most vulnerable moment everyone ever was shocked happen. So you know,
Speaker 1: we'm sa really cool. When we played something, you know,
Speaker 1: I always run up to him and give him a
Speaker 1: chess buck. Bro Man, you know I'm not even thinking
Speaker 1: about it. I run up to him and give him
Speaker 1: get rid of chess. But he really not pay attention.
Speaker 1: But he turned around the last minute. This mother catch
Speaker 1: me Ben. I'm like, man, if you don't put me
Speaker 1: to all these people out here, this catch me mid
Speaker 1: And so I'm like, come on, manuye, dude, cannot be
Speaker 1: that big. I got some crazy stories about shock in Phoenix. Man,
Speaker 1: he was a big ass prank star. Oh man, when
Speaker 1: we get him on the show, I'm gonna call him
Speaker 1: on some of the shift he did. You got people
Speaker 1: gonna be blowing away with some big fellers did well.
Speaker 1: Let's go well, I mean we're turning of the decade.
Speaker 1: You know, we're heading into a new start where we
Speaker 1: have some great duos. Complete shift, would you say right now?
Speaker 1: Arguably the best dual is a d and Lebron. I
Speaker 1: think that's safe to say. No, the Can and the Brow,
Speaker 1: that's what you're talking about. The King and the Brow.
Speaker 1: That's their names. That's gonna be a duo. If they could,
Speaker 1: you know, play together for you know him, for the years.
Speaker 1: That that's that's gonna go down to history. Remember I
Speaker 1: said that he was. I said that Braun wasn't playing
Speaker 1: like the dog after that first game this season because
Speaker 1: the clip, I say, you need to play with more dog,
Speaker 1: I said, Bron, you can average forty. You can average
Speaker 1: fifty if you want. He's been getting triple doubles every night.
Speaker 1: Best record in the league. The legos are tough. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna lie, you know if he won't. Just don't take
Speaker 1: it easy on him, Bron. Stop playing to the level
Speaker 1: your competition. Get seventy points a night because you can't.
Speaker 1: It's easy. He gotta pace itself though, and damn that
Speaker 1: ship on his legs. You want it now, you wanted
Speaker 1: in you when you want it. I'm asking when you
Speaker 1: want it. I want it every night. You can't have
Speaker 1: it every night after year seventh, in the year seventeen war,
Speaker 1: I mean he paid a million dollars. But it's just things.
Speaker 1: If I just wanted a minute, we spanned a million,
Speaker 1: I was my body just, oh my good. Might have
Speaker 1: spent a million sports. You'll be playing football and basketball.
Speaker 1: I'll be playing fucking rugby in basketball. We'll be all
Speaker 1: over the place, and I'll be boxing. I'll be jumping
Speaker 1: out of jets. All kind of said. If I spent
Speaker 1: a million dollars a million dollars on your body a year,
Speaker 1: nothing shouldn't be wrong with you. Log management, Are you
Speaker 1: kidding me? I'm the other way. Pace yourself. Bro. A
Speaker 1: million of games you can do during the season, but
Speaker 1: I want to see it in the I want to
Speaker 1: see in the playoffs. You can do it. Just do it.
Speaker 1: But right down the hall, Kawai and PG and and
Speaker 1: PG has been back for a minute. Kauai is Kauai,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. He's really hurt, you know,
Speaker 1: but he's still doing what he's doing. But I ain't
Speaker 1: even talking about little man. I'm just talking about to
Speaker 1: deal itself, you know. I think when Paul George, you know,
Speaker 1: gets his footing back, he's been playing really well. I
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be a Western Conference battle. Uh final
Speaker 1: to go down. It's gonna be fine. We talked about
Speaker 1: all these duos. We just stick is due on TV. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we just do a period. They don't even know if
Speaker 1: you don't even know that. But honest, nice Luca. They're scary.
Speaker 1: Lucas scary. I don't think I was talking to someone.
Speaker 1: I don't think. And this is no knock on Brown
Speaker 1: and no knock on anybody, but offensively skilled. I don't
Speaker 1: think we've ever seen a player coming to the game
Speaker 1: this right. I mean something can say Kareem, but I
Speaker 1: don't even you know, back in the day when he
Speaker 1: came in, he came in completely dominant. But that the
Speaker 1: Luca is different because he can give it to you
Speaker 1: any where you wanted. Do they know that Luca's legit
Speaker 1: six nine, big body, but he's handles, He's step backs,
Speaker 1: doing whatever he wants to this league. All the records
Speaker 1: and numbers. Lebron was putting up that when he was
Speaker 1: breaking at the beginning's career, Lucas doing the same thing
Speaker 1: and squashing them all crazy especial. But what I like
Speaker 1: about him, I say this all the time about players.
Speaker 1: That's the first thing I noticed. He don't back down no,
Speaker 1: hell no, you know what I'm saying. That's the first thing,
Speaker 1: especially when you're coming. I got them from overseas to
Speaker 1: the NBA. The first thing they tried to take you
Speaker 1: are well you know that we I mean we that
Speaker 1: was always kind of the knock with you know, obviously
Speaker 1: a handful of him more special, you know, but a
Speaker 1: euro We was trying to punk them all off the rip.
Speaker 1: They couldn't bunk Carolinko. No, he was a dog. You couldn't, Carolina.
Speaker 1: I'm auer had our whole team, are our whole offense
Speaker 1: funked up in the playoffs. But you know, like I said,
Speaker 1: there were some exceptions for it from over you know,
Speaker 1: the knock back then was you know, they would be
Speaker 1: soft and getting their asks, and they had disappeared. But
Speaker 1: that's one thing. Luca, he's ready for it. He wants
Speaker 1: to get you know what I mean, he's he's ready
Speaker 1: for that head up any day, anytime, anywhere. And you
Speaker 1: know what's crazy though, everybody was talking about when Porzingis
Speaker 1: get there, how it's gonna be crazy. Porzinga's is not
Speaker 1: even on Lucas level. Not what I'll give Porzinga is
Speaker 1: gonna take him a hole after the type of knee
Speaker 1: injury he had. I'm not judging him until next year,
Speaker 1: but obviously I was looking at him the other day
Speaker 1: thinking the way you are else, just like I forgot
Speaker 1: this his first year back from knee injury, but like
Speaker 1: it's not it's man. Before Porzincas got hurt, we were
Speaker 1: thinking him up here, but robbing, I think, Lucas, I
Speaker 1: think they can still get there. You think so. I
Speaker 1: think they might have just slide another person in arriving
Speaker 1: and let him go to be out for something. You
Speaker 1: Alfred getting Batman stuff ready, He's gonna have to I
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't think he's robbing. You might not
Speaker 1: be robbing. I want to hold judgment into things just
Speaker 1: more Alfred. Right now, we done somebody in and Luca's Batman, Superman, Incredible,
Speaker 1: dog Knight, all of them, Dog Knight Rises, all that.
Speaker 1: But they said, I mean, you know you can check
Speaker 1: you can check my my paperwork. You know, I was
Speaker 1: telling people when he first came in the game that
Speaker 1: he has a chance to be one of the greatest players,
Speaker 1: not only European players, but ever. And you mentioned while
Speaker 1: we're talking, you think he's top three and v people.
Speaker 1: Right now, I think Luco will finish this year top
Speaker 1: three m v P if not definitely first team on
Speaker 1: if he don't win it, Yeah, definitely first team on NBA.
Speaker 1: And he's gonna be there for a long time. He
Speaker 1: stay healthy, gonna be there for a long time. I agree.
Speaker 1: I gotta get a Luca Jersey. Shout out Luca, Shout
Speaker 1: out Luka for real. He ain't got nothing to ask
Speaker 1: for beside to just tell him, you know, Luke ain't
Speaker 1: got the shoe deal. Yeah, you know I've been keeping
Speaker 1: He's still trying our shoes. And you don't want to jersey.
Speaker 1: I don't want to Jersey. I'm gonna go to the
Speaker 1: game up. I'd like to definitely like to do with
Speaker 1: Cuban home Rick call out of home me too. You
Speaker 1: mentioned something earlier about Lucas saying, uh, you know, and
Speaker 1: this is almost talking to the defense and what the
Speaker 1: game is like now. It's the easiest going the NBA
Speaker 1: than it was overseas. Yeah, and it makes sense, you
Speaker 1: know he playing overseas. It's probably him. You know, nine
Speaker 1: times over the overseas you have two Americans, so it's
Speaker 1: probably him and another guy that's actually getting to paid
Speaker 1: attention by defense. Everybody's keying on and the NBA, everybody
Speaker 1: has to be tend to. Everybody's hugging their man. Everybody
Speaker 1: gotta be respected. So he just walking to the paint,
Speaker 1: he has more space than anybody, more space needs ever
Speaker 1: had to go one on one and then and the
Speaker 1: NBA guys, they it looks like the guys take more
Speaker 1: pride and playing defense, but they have to because they're
Speaker 1: on the island and the ups and body want to
Speaker 1: be embarrassed. And like I said, I think it's great
Speaker 1: for the game that to have like players like Janice
Speaker 1: and Luca, and I think that talks to it at
Speaker 1: the beginning of the decade, how it's it's grown globally
Speaker 1: with social media and what players have been able to
Speaker 1: speak at about and you know, show that in the
Speaker 1: NBA is just an all around amazing thing to be
Speaker 1: a part of the global game. You know, it's definitely
Speaker 1: a global game. So it's you know, you're you're starting
Speaker 1: to see more younger European stars and that is what
Speaker 1: continues to grow the game. And I said, these players
Speaker 1: continue to get the contracts that they're getting. Have you
Speaker 1: seen Thundmaker's brother like eleven grades something something tall. He
Speaker 1: handled all that. It's crazy. I forgot the kid's name,
Speaker 1: but there's a young katie coming up to the pipeline
Speaker 1: to a helio or and forgot with the kid name.
Speaker 1: Boy he is nice. Let's transition right now into as
Speaker 1: we close out the two thousand tens. Me and Jack
Speaker 1: sat back and made a few lists. Don't try to
Speaker 1: go crazy. Just our list. You like it? Agree? If
Speaker 1: not right? You know, people, when you start making you
Speaker 1: said so and so, man, we don't. We'll care about
Speaker 1: all that we think. You guys, tell us what you think.
Speaker 1: But we're gonna start it off with the top five
Speaker 1: moments of the past ten years, and we'll start at
Speaker 1: number five. Kobe's last game and his story career points. Yes,
Speaker 1: sixty points had the whole stadium going craziness only right,
Speaker 1: like who goes out with their last game being sixty points? Kobe?
Speaker 1: That was crazy. I mean it was just good to
Speaker 1: watch man and knowing I heard he was and to
Speaker 1: see him finished, to go out like that, and how
Speaker 1: we stuck around, you know, like I said, especially with
Speaker 1: the climb and stay. A lot of guys bounce you
Speaker 1: know to get that ring at the end and Kobe
Speaker 1: stage true, Kobe rowed the ship into that motherfucker's sank
Speaker 1: un tempers healthy and can't get ten points right, Sorry,
Speaker 1: motherfucker's shout out to Code. Good back for for Kawai
Speaker 1: Leonards buzzer beater against Philly that ultimately gets the Raptors
Speaker 1: and then Canada their first championship. Note the kids that
Speaker 1: watch that, you see he helped the follow up through
Speaker 1: the goose neck. He just sat there and watched that
Speaker 1: mother bounce bounce. I said, everybody, you gotta keep you
Speaker 1: following through Coach Jack Top five moments number four with
Speaker 1: you know Kauai and you say what you want about Kauai,
Speaker 1: but he's got what two championships and two finals VPS
Speaker 1: and Defensive Player of the Year, and he led Ronald
Speaker 1: Raptors to their first championship and then came there was
Speaker 1: offering him the world out there too, free cars, free houses,
Speaker 1: free life. I'm just saying, you go to the country
Speaker 1: and get them a championship, and you need you can't
Speaker 1: be mad at it't be mad at expect the game
Speaker 1: respected to check it. Number three Russell Westbrooks Triple double run.
Speaker 1: I think we get as a society, we see greatness
Speaker 1: and we get almost tired of it and not really
Speaker 1: historically understanding how amazing what this man did was as
Speaker 1: a basketball player. It was. It was just unbelievable. Me
Speaker 1: knowing the few triple doubles I had my career, I
Speaker 1: only had one. It was close to like five. I
Speaker 1: probably have three or four. Yeah, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: to consistently average it for what it was a two
Speaker 1: or three years, and to even to the point where
Speaker 1: he went and got nip shoutout rest in peace. That
Speaker 1: was crazy. On the sixties. Yeah, that's that was crazy,
Speaker 1: you know. So definitely, Russell Westbrook one was definitely top
Speaker 1: one of the top moments the Warriors, but not for
Speaker 1: their dynasty so to speak. It was the year they
Speaker 1: beat the Bulls. Record when they surpassed the seventy two
Speaker 1: and ten was seventy three and nine. But they didn't
Speaker 1: win the championship, so that's kind of Yeah, yeah, played good.
Speaker 1: Your regularly was a great regular season team. But that's
Speaker 1: also they gotta think that. So that's when they beat
Speaker 1: down a three one to Okay, see okay, So they
Speaker 1: beat okay see losing the finals, come back with easy
Speaker 1: money money and you know what I mean, solidified the
Speaker 1: end of their dynasty. And the number one moment of
Speaker 1: the two thousand ten dead It to us was Lebron's
Speaker 1: blocking Game seven on the road after leaving Miami, coming
Speaker 1: back to his hometown and winning Cleveland their first championship
Speaker 1: in fifty plus years. Man, that was amazing. That's say
Speaker 1: that changed the whole series. That's say that saved it.
Speaker 1: That was it. I mean, he made a lot of
Speaker 1: blocks doing the course of the amazing, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, But just that block on the road. He's
Speaker 1: how how he was like chin above the rim, like
Speaker 1: blocked it with all this ship those great players, especially
Speaker 1: in the finals. If you look back in the history
Speaker 1: of time, most great players their moment and their players
Speaker 1: on offense. That was a defensive just kind of speaks
Speaker 1: to what Lebron is. Lebronco beach in many different ways,
Speaker 1: you know, not just scoring. So that was our top five,
Speaker 1: uh moments. So let's get into some honorable mentions that
Speaker 1: just missed the cut. Um. One of them, I don't
Speaker 1: feel but feel free like that. One of them, I
Speaker 1: don't feel feel but feel free you're coming back. You
Speaker 1: don't have your sung glasses on the wrap right now,
Speaker 1: right now. Dirk Dirk's one championship and what they did
Speaker 1: to get it. Um. I was on the Laker team
Speaker 1: that they swept out of the playoffs in the first round,
Speaker 1: and they went up against that that that Big three
Speaker 1: of Miami and they got their first champion. Dirk was dominant.
Speaker 1: That was big. That was big. I mean nobody everybody
Speaker 1: thought that Big three was gonna win that and eight
Speaker 1: nine there was all that, and and Dirk came in
Speaker 1: there and and stole himself on it in convincing fashion.
Speaker 1: Dame Lillard's waved goodbye to the thunder Dame is cold.
Speaker 1: You gotta think too, It's not even on you. But
Speaker 1: the shott he hit to knock Houston out a few
Speaker 1: years before that. But his goodbye his way to Paul
Speaker 1: George and on the ground deep logo. So I mean
Speaker 1: that was all, you know, shout out Dame Dollar. Lebron
Speaker 1: finally gets over uh you know the David and Golias
Speaker 1: situation in Boston in two thousand well to win his
Speaker 1: first first title. So that was just missed. The Katie's
Speaker 1: scoring run. I think we forget. You know, in his
Speaker 1: MVP years two thousand and fourteen year one straight games
Speaker 1: of twenty five or more, we were definitely in the
Speaker 1: mixed probably. But it's crazy with Kate, you know, he
Speaker 1: was just one of the most efficient. Dude, you could
Speaker 1: play good defense, but he's just so much bigger than you.
Speaker 1: Didn't matter all time. And then ray Allen's shot against
Speaker 1: in the two thousand Things, but you don't like what
Speaker 1: what's on that shot? You got a problem with raised?
Speaker 1: Excuse me? So anyway, man, that was all honorable mention. Um.
Speaker 1: Moving right along, we want to rank the top ten
Speaker 1: players of the decade. And so when we say this
Speaker 1: and we maybe leave some people out or have them
Speaker 1: in the rank and are not in the ring, you
Speaker 1: got to realize we kind of felt like some of
Speaker 1: these guys carried over and ended their careers in the
Speaker 1: two thousand tents, but not weren't necessarily their best body
Speaker 1: of work in the two thousand tens with this list,
Speaker 1: so we're not ranking any of these in order. We
Speaker 1: want you guys to put them in order, or we're
Speaker 1: just giving you what we feel at the top ten.
Speaker 1: But let's start off at the top. You want to
Speaker 1: make sure they know that right, because we're saying all
Speaker 1: kind of ship, We're gonna get the honorable mentions out
Speaker 1: the way. First Star with Paul George p G PlayStation.
Speaker 1: I love PG bro coming off and coming back off
Speaker 1: the injury, a couple of injuries, yeah, but that, yeah,
Speaker 1: the big one for the Olympic team and came back
Speaker 1: to do what he has done and doing what he's
Speaker 1: doing with the Clippers. Now. You always got a lot
Speaker 1: of love with PG one. Oh yeah, there's no question
Speaker 1: Kyrie one of your favorite players, human joy stick crazy,
Speaker 1: one of the best finishers I've seen Rod stricking on steroids.
Speaker 1: I'm just a fan of his game, not only his shoes,
Speaker 1: but I'm a fan of his game. Yeah, mellow, someone
Speaker 1: we've advocated for, big fan for us, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. And and he's he's only mounorable mention because
Speaker 1: in this hey days, I think we're more of the
Speaker 1: two thousands. But he was a monster Hall of Fame
Speaker 1: and glad he's back on Portland. You know, you see
Speaker 1: me and Jack advocating for him, and everyone's out there
Speaker 1: talk and ship saying he couldn't do this, couldn't do that.
Speaker 1: They're playing. We can say what you want, but he's
Speaker 1: playing very well important and we're happening for him. So
Speaker 1: when I got a chance to play with and he's
Speaker 1: just had the worst luck I've probably ever seen a
Speaker 1: player have his DeMarcus Cousins. Yeah, we both love he
Speaker 1: was on pace too, you know, numbers wise to be
Speaker 1: in one of the all time greats with his numbers
Speaker 1: he put up in Sacramento, and then going to New
Speaker 1: Orleans and on the brink of a you know, signing
Speaker 1: a huge deal, tears as Achilles, where are you? You know,
Speaker 1: then comes back and signs, you know, a little small
Speaker 1: deal with Golden State, tears his quad when coming back,
Speaker 1: and then the following summer tears his a c L.
Speaker 1: So it's been nothing of bad luck. We wish Boogie
Speaker 1: the best. Definitely absolutely Boogie. And then one of my
Speaker 1: former teammates and to me, one of the greatest point
Speaker 1: guards and leaders the game has ever seen. I think
Speaker 1: he gets a bad rep sometimes, but Chris Paul probably
Speaker 1: the smartest point guard I've seen playing my time. Chris
Speaker 1: Paul was a killer man, one of the most competitive.
Speaker 1: I put him right up there with a and Kobe
Speaker 1: as far as competitiveness and guys that I played with
Speaker 1: Chris is Chris is a mobster. But let's get into
Speaker 1: our top ten. This is not in any particular order.
Speaker 1: Like I said, we're gonna let you guys judge it.
Speaker 1: We want to see what you guys think, So make
Speaker 1: sure you guys tap in and tells what you think
Speaker 1: your order is. But we feel like these are the
Speaker 1: top ten players of the two thousand tens. Starting off
Speaker 1: with Dwyane Wade lash I think he's the number three
Speaker 1: shooting guard all time behind m J. Kobe. The way,
Speaker 1: what do you think? I can't argue with that? Um
Speaker 1: the dominant whole career. He has the championship to back
Speaker 1: it up, he has the final MVP to back it up.
Speaker 1: I mean, I can't argue with you on that. You
Speaker 1: shouldn't Steph Curry, someone who came in and changed the game. Um,
Speaker 1: you know you live by the three, died by the three,
Speaker 1: and they found a way to build a dynasty out
Speaker 1: of the three. And someone who's coming, like you said
Speaker 1: earlier with joy Stick handled too and has revolutionaries to
Speaker 1: revolutionize the game. How many and how many people can
Speaker 1: you say he's done that has changed the game and
Speaker 1: full of the hand of James Harden on the offensive
Speaker 1: run we've we've never seen, or we haven't seen in
Speaker 1: our lifetime. Obviously one of the greatest all time offensive
Speaker 1: players we've ever seen. I'm speechless when it comes to
Speaker 1: James hard because, like, but ke've been working on your
Speaker 1: actors ship, how like your mannerisms and all your breathing
Speaker 1: and all that. I've gotta see this Jack, is that
Speaker 1: you're trying to be an actor man with him right
Speaker 1: vact scene? Okay, um, but James though, like it's I
Speaker 1: don't understand, Like as much as we played defense and
Speaker 1: as hard as we work, it was no way that
Speaker 1: somebody would be moved so nonchalant and score points like
Speaker 1: that on us. Like he's getting sixty and it's not
Speaker 1: even sweating. You don't have a strong body. He looked
Speaker 1: kind of fat, like you drink beers all day. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, He's getting sixty a game. I
Speaker 1: got some of that, James Harden. Uh. I got frustrated
Speaker 1: at one time. I just had a throne on the ground.
Speaker 1: I just don't deal with getting torched too. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's none what can you do any and people get
Speaker 1: mad because he's mastered the game. He's learned how to
Speaker 1: make people foul, and he's learned how to go to
Speaker 1: the foul line twenty times, although I think the rest
Speaker 1: still calls some bullshit fouls every once in one's three
Speaker 1: point shots. But he's mastered, and I think people get
Speaker 1: mad at the fact that he's outsmarted the game almost
Speaker 1: and become one of the most prolific score we've ever seen.
Speaker 1: Kawhi Leonard the Claw, two time champion, two time final
Speaker 1: m v P. You know you had him as a
Speaker 1: as a young boy in San Antonio, and I remember
Speaker 1: you telling me you saw something in him early. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I knew, well one. I knew that he wasn't gonna
Speaker 1: be in San Antonio. Let me say that too. I
Speaker 1: knew he was gonna be one of the top players
Speaker 1: in this league. He was focused, the way he was
Speaker 1: built and his knowledge of basketball in the way he
Speaker 1: played the game like he was similar to Tim Duncan.
Speaker 1: He's even killed. Hey, nobody take him off his game.
Speaker 1: You can say what you want to him, you can
Speaker 1: knock him down. He know he can play the game,
Speaker 1: and he's gonna play the game will and he was
Speaker 1: focused gonna be in the best Kobe so when I
Speaker 1: think obviously his best days were probably uh two thousand's,
Speaker 1: but he definitely was a killer coming into the early
Speaker 1: part of two thousand up until he you know, kind
Speaker 1: of body started giving out. When you say being that
Speaker 1: speak for yourself. Man, Like I've seen Kobe from high
Speaker 1: school to now, and you got to put together McDonald
Speaker 1: man and cop. It's just it was just it was
Speaker 1: just special. I heard they rob you the MVP in
Speaker 1: that game too. What happened? Well, McDonald's all American game
Speaker 1: check go check, thanks for USA, go check the footage.
Speaker 1: I think I was maybe eight for ten from the field,
Speaker 1: three ft three from the three point line, twenty one points.
Speaker 1: Nobody else was even close to twenty one points, and
Speaker 1: they gave the MVP to a guy named Shaheen Holloway. Holloway,
Speaker 1: but I think, all right, yeah, he had like eight
Speaker 1: points eight as a couple of turnovers. It wasn't we
Speaker 1: want just didn't add up to me, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. When we get Kobe on the show, you
Speaker 1: gotta talk talking about that. I'm going to ask Kobe
Speaker 1: who he think should have won m VP and That's
Speaker 1: what matters. How code we play that game. He was solid,
Speaker 1: you know, he was chilling, Like, why am I here?
Speaker 1: I'm going to the league. You guys, you beneath me.
Speaker 1: Don't on you shooting? Played away on you and Clay
Speaker 1: Thompson a silent assassin. And you can say what you want,
Speaker 1: but Clay could arguably be, if not the one of
Speaker 1: the greatest shooters we've ever seen. Sixty points and twenty
Speaker 1: nine minutes on two and a half dribbles, one step
Speaker 1: back right, Clay was the killer man. I remember always
Speaker 1: having to chase his ass off screens and they get
Speaker 1: a chance to play with them, and seeing him and
Speaker 1: steps steps work ethic outside of the games, and how
Speaker 1: much they shoot and how much they don't miss. Like
Speaker 1: to really see, I say, Steph has these records and
Speaker 1: gets more shots up because he's better with the ball
Speaker 1: off the ball and can run, picking rolls and do
Speaker 1: all that stuff. But it can when it comes to
Speaker 1: just straight spot up shooting. I couldn't really tell you
Speaker 1: to me who I think is better. It's those guys
Speaker 1: are right neck and next to me. A lot of
Speaker 1: people that don't play basketball. I don't know how hard
Speaker 1: it is to catch a ball in the second and
Speaker 1: moving in your hand to get the scenes to shoot
Speaker 1: a perfect, perfect spinih shot does Oh my god, Watch
Speaker 1: it for all you guys that never know no wasted movement.
Speaker 1: When Clay catches the ball, Watch how he shifts the
Speaker 1: ball like this to where the scenes. His hands are
Speaker 1: right on the scenes and every time you don't even
Speaker 1: recognize them, sometimes moving right along. Anthony Davis, someone that
Speaker 1: you really like. He could have could have been I mean,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, It could have been m
Speaker 1: VP of the last handful of years. That's something going
Speaker 1: great with the Lakers now. And Brian Yeah, I called
Speaker 1: him Tom Duncan on steroids. Now everybody's stealing all the
Speaker 1: smoke hits stelling now stuff and saying, come on, that's
Speaker 1: our ship. They take an hour ship. But it's cool,
Speaker 1: ain't okay? We'll get him later. Russell Westbrook Monster the
Speaker 1: human door cell battery man, to overcome the injuries he's
Speaker 1: overcome and to put up the numbers here doing what
Speaker 1: I love about Rush. You could you know, he's a
Speaker 1: hater love kind of guy. But I think what outside
Speaker 1: of the numbers, what I personally love is that motherfucker
Speaker 1: plays hard every second he's on the court. I like
Speaker 1: that he marches to the beat of his own drum.
Speaker 1: You know me love to leave it. You know hey,
Speaker 1: average triple double and y'all still kill me. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, y'all, y'all say I can't shoot, Okay, cool,
Speaker 1: I'm still gonna have a triple like I just love
Speaker 1: the way he approached the game, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I love it. I love I love it too. Kevin
Speaker 1: Durant arguably one of the greatest scores. It's not the
Speaker 1: greatest score we've ever seen in the game. Is he human?
Speaker 1: Does he have snake? Plays like a point guard in
Speaker 1: a two guard mixed with you know, three guard, actually
Speaker 1: power forward, size, handle the ball. I mean, it's I've
Speaker 1: never seen nothing like in his efficiency, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. I think people, like I said, James Harden
Speaker 1: is tremendous, but I think there's a few other guys
Speaker 1: that if they were in that role every single night,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna shoot thirty to forty shots. I
Speaker 1: could shoot fifteen to twenty three to score like that.
Speaker 1: If Kevin Durant wanted to, he would lead the world
Speaker 1: and scoring every single year and efficient question, Steph could
Speaker 1: do it too. I think Steph could score like that
Speaker 1: too if that was his role and that that was
Speaker 1: his offensive system. But yeah, Kevin Durant and then last
Speaker 1: but not least, King James k And I think, you know,
Speaker 1: not only on but off the court. Unlike any superstar
Speaker 1: we've ever seen to do as much as he's done
Speaker 1: for the game itself, growing the game, giving guys platforms
Speaker 1: and giving them guys game overall, and in business of basketball,
Speaker 1: and and and branding yourself as a business. I just
Speaker 1: think Lebron has done so much for the game of
Speaker 1: basketball outside of basketball and in basketball, you know, and
Speaker 1: for president and past players. There's no question definitely carried
Speaker 1: the torch. So that was our list, like we said,
Speaker 1: in no particular order. You guys down in the comments,
Speaker 1: give us your top ten players and honorable mentors if
Speaker 1: you like, and see how you fare against our lists.
Speaker 1: Moving right along, teams of the decade coming in, and
Speaker 1: number five, we had the Raptors. They've been hanging around,
Speaker 1: they've been in the Eastern Conference, mix with the with
Speaker 1: the can you know, and then they continued to running too.
Speaker 1: Someone who went to the finals eight straight times. Every
Speaker 1: time they walked to school, they go this route right there,
Speaker 1: because they go this route we try to get to school.
Speaker 1: He right here, they go through Duncan Donuts. He had
Speaker 1: the drift through, Like yeah, like Lebron, get your ass on, bro,
Speaker 1: we don't have a chance. We got they got Lebron
Speaker 1: to leave, made a crazy trade that you know it's
Speaker 1: still talked about, but ended up working for him and
Speaker 1: inquiring Kauai. Kauai came about this business just like you said,
Speaker 1: Like Russ, I don't give a funk. What do you think.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna sit out here and make sure my body
Speaker 1: is ready to play, still playing hurt for you. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna come get you a championship, and then I'm a bounce,
Speaker 1: get these six seven brades to the back and just
Speaker 1: stretch your whatever penitentiary brade job on the business as usual.
Speaker 1: The Calves and Lebron, The Calves are the Lebrons, two
Speaker 1: and one are different, whatever I would say, the Lebrons
Speaker 1: the Lebrons. Someone who went to the finals eight straight
Speaker 1: years and remember a handshake with every teammate, every crazy
Speaker 1: right handshake. It was incredible. He sat down at the
Speaker 1: at the pre postgame press conference and explain the whole
Speaker 1: first two or three possessions of the game to a
Speaker 1: reporter though, like that was crazy, Like how do you
Speaker 1: remember something at happened in the first possession again? And
Speaker 1: they replayed it on TV and it was exactly you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like that's crazy, he's crazy crazy
Speaker 1: your former team to San Antonio spurs Man, they picked
Speaker 1: up one championship in this decade, right, but just just
Speaker 1: a fifty win team every year, every year. And it's
Speaker 1: a plug and play to me, I compared to like
Speaker 1: the New England Patriots, you know, me and Popping Belichick,
Speaker 1: and they create these systems where they're able to plug
Speaker 1: and play guys and they're not necessarily all the time
Speaker 1: have the best players, but they're always a team that's
Speaker 1: going to be competitive winning fifty plus games for however
Speaker 1: many years, there was a lot of years by the
Speaker 1: funk out booting your ass party there, you got booted
Speaker 1: because I wasn't buy anything. You wouldn't corporate, I'm not
Speaker 1: giving man. At that time, I wasn't a company. What
Speaker 1: are you still not a company? You've never been to come? No, no,
Speaker 1: but what it was I was a great teammate. Always yeah,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be leeling myself. That's okay moving around along
Speaker 1: the heat. It's crazy the heat. Uh, you gotta get
Speaker 1: something off your chest. Just good. You need a hug,
Speaker 1: and give you a hug. You came back to the
Speaker 1: definitely the Miami Heat the number two team of the decade,
Speaker 1: winning two out of four championships. They should have won more. Dog,
Speaker 1: I think definite should have won more. I just you know,
Speaker 1: I think they could have added something to a solid
Speaker 1: piece to back up Chris Bosh because he wasn't all
Speaker 1: the way there all the time and he didn't show
Speaker 1: up all the time. With d Wade and Brun, I
Speaker 1: just felt like that that makes they should have won
Speaker 1: more championships. It's a hell of comments, a hell of
Speaker 1: a duo. And then our team of the decade, the
Speaker 1: Going to State Warriors, three out of five championships, changed
Speaker 1: the game um NBA record for wins in the season.
Speaker 1: Although they didn't win the championship, they just I think
Speaker 1: they exemplified the old school way of doing it too.
Speaker 1: Outside of being able to get K D. Lure and KD. Away,
Speaker 1: they built through the draft and they had a great
Speaker 1: Core and Steph Clay and Draymond and people are tripping
Speaker 1: off what they're doing this year. And the way I
Speaker 1: look at it as I mean, these guys are just
Speaker 1: getting a break, you know. I mean Steph and Clay
Speaker 1: probably played more basketball the last fire than any player
Speaker 1: in the history of the game. Uh. You know, Draymond
Speaker 1: is healthy, but I look at his numbers and he's
Speaker 1: only playing about twenties something minutes the game right now.
Speaker 1: What they're doing is letting Dillo do his thing so
Speaker 1: they can use him later if they need to trade him,
Speaker 1: because he's a hell of a player. And then they're
Speaker 1: finding out what these young players can. They got this one,
Speaker 1: Pascal I think his last name is or whatever. He's leading.
Speaker 1: He's leading all rookies and scoring, you know, and they
Speaker 1: he would have never got that opportunity if they have
Speaker 1: a healthy team. You know, you don't get to show
Speaker 1: your things. So the kid pool out of Michigan. So
Speaker 1: what they're doing is they're developing their young talent and
Speaker 1: they're having trade assets and then you mess running put
Speaker 1: two of the one of these young good players de
Speaker 1: low in a lottery pick because they're gonna probably be
Speaker 1: at the bottom and they're gonna be in the lottery.
Speaker 1: You trade for Janice and you're right back in the
Speaker 1: game next year. To close this show out, man, we
Speaker 1: wanted to say goodbye. I think this this the NBA
Speaker 1: is in great hands heading into two thousand twenty with
Speaker 1: a lot of young, bright stars. But you know, with
Speaker 1: the closing of this decade, we saw some great retire man.
Speaker 1: We saw some great Jason Kidd Bayerry do one of
Speaker 1: the all time great point guards. My vet o ge
Speaker 1: story when Mike Bibby mom took me to try out,
Speaker 1: took me up there play beast pick up and Ja
Speaker 1: Kidd was there. I remember that like yesterday, like him
Speaker 1: to embrace me as a youngster. I always every time
Speaker 1: I see him, I thanking for that. But this was
Speaker 1: one of the best town business man to play against
Speaker 1: him in the finals where he was in his man
Speaker 1: and against Tony Park at the time that they were
Speaker 1: talking about trading in San Antonio. So I have a
Speaker 1: special shout out j Kidd absolutely, Dwayne Wade Flash we
Speaker 1: touched on them earlier. You know, great two way player
Speaker 1: before you know, the guy that could do everything. Someone played,
Speaker 1: even took pride in blocks like probably the all time
Speaker 1: leading guard and blocks or something like that. Amazing Kevin Garnett.
Speaker 1: We talked about him early in the show if he
Speaker 1: would have came to the We Believed team, but just
Speaker 1: what he's still for. I just wish everybody had his passion.
Speaker 1: It would be crazy. What if everybody had his pass
Speaker 1: for the games that it wouldn't be no for they
Speaker 1: point blow up. You got to get him on the show. Yes, Um,
Speaker 1: one of your former teammates and someone you love. Tim
Speaker 1: Duncans and duncan big fundamentals are paintball team. Um, but
Speaker 1: I're gonna be the greatest pile for of all time.
Speaker 1: Can do it all, best teammate, super smart, you can coach,
Speaker 1: do him everything. If you want to start an organization,
Speaker 1: you started with Tim dunk The only thing I knocked
Speaker 1: on Timmy can't dress for ship words. You know. I'm
Speaker 1: but that was horrible. That was horrible. Uh. Someone who
Speaker 1: could could have been one of the greats, but just injury,
Speaker 1: bug and and and some bad luck was t mac
Speaker 1: Man Killer because he jumped so high but all but
Speaker 1: shot with similar to clay like. He was always a
Speaker 1: straight range get to the basket dunk on your shoes.
Speaker 1: He's one of the best top ten scorers of all time.
Speaker 1: I agree. I think he's definitely up there. Slept on
Speaker 1: Steve Nash, two time, two time MVP, former teammate of mind,
Speaker 1: just saw the floor like no one I've ever seen,
Speaker 1: you know, up there with you know that the magic
Speaker 1: Johnson and Chris Paul's as you know, being able to
Speaker 1: see the floor and make place for others always made
Speaker 1: his teammates better. Great guy on and off the court,
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, he had a hell of a
Speaker 1: round and Steve move hip to y'all think too still stute,
Speaker 1: super Yeah, he get down, Steve, Steve, get down. Paul
Speaker 1: Pierce the truth very under He's really underst like stuff
Speaker 1: out of this game, WI add it him? Paul Pierce
Speaker 1: was all around killer, the best. He has the best
Speaker 1: footwork I've ever seen in any basketball player in my life. Footwork,
Speaker 1: crazy clutched gene crazy three pointer, mere range and get
Speaker 1: there and dunk on you talk shit, played at his pace,
Speaker 1: play to his pace. Uh, Dirk man killer. I don't
Speaker 1: We had some wars, but I really think I would
Speaker 1: love to get him in and talk to him about it.
Speaker 1: I think we really made him better with the ship
Speaker 1: we did to him, and during that we believe because
Speaker 1: he was the MVP that season wins, but we for
Speaker 1: the first time, like people like me and you guarded
Speaker 1: him and we changed the game and every time he
Speaker 1: you know, he turned like so we tried to punk
Speaker 1: him out of the series and it worked. We took it,
Speaker 1: but then he came back absolute animal. So that's why
Speaker 1: I think. I really think like we were like that,
Speaker 1: like little dogs just nagging the funk out of him
Speaker 1: and kind of put them on, you know, put more
Speaker 1: toughness in him and came back with a vengeance. You
Speaker 1: had to go home. That's something after losing that first round,
Speaker 1: like the wounds, Like what did these motherfucker's due to us?
Speaker 1: The rat for everything. We just loved to these dudes,
Speaker 1: just the killer. He was one of my favorite players man,
Speaker 1: just to be able to do what he can do
Speaker 1: to like, you know, one of the original st Etch four's,
Speaker 1: the one leg fade away, like there was nothing you
Speaker 1: can do with He was just a miss mismatched nightmare.
Speaker 1: Top five all time, not top five, but he's out there.
Speaker 1: We have to see Dirk. Dirk is tough. He said,
Speaker 1: if they got thirty, got thirty plus, didn't he You
Speaker 1: got a lot of points, so he should. I think
Speaker 1: Dirk is top. If he has thirty, he has to
Speaker 1: be top five. Right, players of all time? Scores, Oh,
Speaker 1: scores of all time. Yeah, I'm not sure where he
Speaker 1: ranks on the list. I think I think he stapped five.
Speaker 1: Let us know, you know, they don't know, they know
Speaker 1: the facts. And then like he said, Kobe Bean, twenty
Speaker 1: years in the game, you get a hundred points of
Speaker 1: your way out right, five championships. One of the most
Speaker 1: mentally tough players I've ever seen. His mental approach was
Speaker 1: second enough from me, just all around great. And then
Speaker 1: like you said, like who goes out with sixty points?
Speaker 1: I mean people, people, people living in in in the
Speaker 1: in the moment, and they don't understand how great Kobe
Speaker 1: is because they said they're watching So they're watching a
Speaker 1: great player right now, Lebron. But Kobe was special man
Speaker 1: kill and then last but not least, someone who's still
Speaker 1: pushing along at twenty two years Vince carter Man shout
Speaker 1: out Vince and bro. He took the He took the
Speaker 1: world by storm when he came into the game, and
Speaker 1: in the nineties, and and what he was doing when
Speaker 1: he did for Toronto, and uh, you know, for him
Speaker 1: to be able to steal the longevity to play twenty
Speaker 1: two years in the NBA, like that's hard to do.
Speaker 1: He also put a spark back in the Olympics too,
Speaker 1: when he dunked over that. The only thing I didn't
Speaker 1: like about it he tried to grow it. And I
Speaker 1: told him that he tried to grow a ship out
Speaker 1: that years. Ship was fuck. I don't know what that was.
Speaker 1: I told him to his face, Man, cut that ship off,
Speaker 1: I told him later once we played together, but that
Speaker 1: ship was got awful. But outside of that, he was incredible,
Speaker 1: one of the most athletic skilled players that we've ever seen.
Speaker 1: So it's been a hell of a decade, you know.
Speaker 1: Like I said, the NBA is left in great hands.
Speaker 1: We gotta let a lot of young, up and coming
Speaker 1: talent with Luca and the Greek Free and Tree Young
Speaker 1: and Ben Simmons embed the list goes on. Like I
Speaker 1: said earlier, the Warriors aren't done yet. The Warriors will,
Speaker 1: you know, find a way to get back in the mix,
Speaker 1: you know, can the Lakers, can Lebron bring the Lakers
Speaker 1: back to to prominence. Can PG and Kauai bring the
Speaker 1: Clippers their first title? Uh? You know, I'm excited to
Speaker 1: see what this next. Ten holes, but I'm about to
Speaker 1: be forty. Bro. I don't look like the best days
Speaker 1: ahead of you, bro, So next time we do it
Speaker 1: will be fifty. I don't know if we do all
Speaker 1: the smoke for ten years, no, no, no, we're gonna
Speaker 1: do it. Nay now, A lot of you're not doing
Speaker 1: it for ten years anyway, Gonna graduate at some point.
Speaker 1: Thank you guys for joining us. You guys have a happy,
Speaker 1: safe New Year, and man is gonna be crazy. We
Speaker 1: got some crazy schedules and slates both hands, man check out,
Speaker 1: and we got a lot of ship coming from you guys.
Speaker 1: Thank you for to the name. We'll catch you later.
Speaker 1: Um h m h m hm m hmm.