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Speaker 1: This is our life, this is our passion. That's the

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Speaker 1: Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 2: This this Morning Combat. It is Monday, September twenty first,

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty, and it is time, donks for Morning Combat.

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Speaker 2: Hi everyone, my name is Luke Thomas. I'm one half

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Speaker 2: of the hosting duo. Here. I am joined by the

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Speaker 2: from CBS Sports, but he is the conspiracy to my theory,

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Speaker 2: it is the one and only Brian Campbell. Brian, could

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Speaker 2: you believe this week will be the first time we

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Speaker 2: believe that?

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Speaker 1: Wow? Wow, It's been a long time, Luke, since we've

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Speaker 1: rocked and rolled, and I am fired up, Luke for

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Speaker 1: all intensive purposes. This is the biggest week of your life,

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Speaker 1: of your career, of your existence on this earth. So

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Speaker 1: shout out to you in the MK merch right now.

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Speaker 1: The new glasses makes you very studious, very William and

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Speaker 1: Mary and I don't know why your shot is more

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Speaker 1: zoomed in than mine. Maybe Jay can get in on that.

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Speaker 1: But look, guys, this is it. You know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: This may not be a typical morning combat week because

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Speaker 1: up many times this week. Okay, we're gonna be banging

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Speaker 1: that drum slowly if you will. I am so fired

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Speaker 1: up once again. Welcome to the family. Hope you enjoyed

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Speaker 1: the vacation, Luke. Ye, I'm ready. I'm ready for this. Okay,

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Speaker 1: it's double Charlow. It's UFC two five three. I am so.

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Speaker 1: I have feelings, Luke, that are deep in the loins,

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Speaker 2: Well you know what, I have not quite the same feelings,

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Speaker 2: but I'm certainly excited. As you guys may know, this

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Speaker 2: weekend is a big weekend for all combat sports fans.

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Speaker 2: As Brian just alluded to. On the MMA side, you

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Speaker 2: SCWO fifty three. On the boxing side, it's the Charlo

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Speaker 2: double header. If you guys did not already know, it

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Speaker 2: is worth saying right now Brian and I it's essentially

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Speaker 2: two different cards. It will start at seven pm in

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Speaker 2: the East on pay per view for showtime. The first

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Speaker 2: Charlot Jamal Charlo brother will fight. That card will end.

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Speaker 2: There'll be a thirty minute intermission before the next card

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Speaker 2: My first debut on pay per view, I'm pretty excited.

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Speaker 2: Plus UFC two fifty three. So I want to say this, Brian,

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Speaker 2: we don't know exactly how this is going to go.

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Speaker 2: You and I are gonna be doing the way in

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Speaker 2: stream and the press conference stream and that intermission on

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Speaker 1: Bringing you Wednesday presser press conference stream. We're gonna host it.

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Speaker 1: Get ready, you're gonna be able to hear interviews with

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Speaker 1: all the fighters, hear us break it down Friday check

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Speaker 1: gonna hit you up. We're gonna host that way and

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Speaker 1: get you fired up. And then, as you mentioned, Luke,

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Speaker 1: that halftime show, but that's just the beginning.

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Speaker 2: And that hasn't been a halftime show this good since

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Speaker 2: Shakira and j Lo. More to the point, We're also

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Speaker 1: Now with that, see you want to see a world

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Speaker 1: pay that, pay that man his money. Let's go double Charlo.

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Speaker 1: Six fights, five title fights, maybe the two most important

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Speaker 1: The head is out, Luke. Okay, all this talk, all

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Speaker 1: Yeah? One, one thousand percent. You know, we can bring

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Speaker 2: But this is also what you know from combat sports.

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Speaker 1: It shouldn't, but it should be something that's arguably just

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Speaker 1: or the fan bases of both fighters, that aren't gonna

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Speaker 1: take that as typical trash talk, which is why we

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Speaker 1: saw that brawl after two twenty nine that, luckily for

431
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Speaker 1: the UFC, was contained at a level where we are

432
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Speaker 1: allowed to look back at history and be like, wow,

433
00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:31,479
Speaker 1: wasn't that crazy? Habib made Connor tap and then they

434
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Speaker 1: had to fight off each other in the cage. But

435
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Speaker 1: let's not forget how freaking close that came to being

436
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Speaker 1: the NBA Palace brawl. And I don't care what you

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Speaker 1: call me. In response to that, al Soy boy for

438
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Speaker 1: up the Nines. For this, I was in the crowd

439
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Speaker 1: and Hbib's manager got tackled onto my laptop there in

440
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Speaker 1: the front row of the media section, and ish was wild.

441
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Speaker 1: People were jumping in from the crowd. That almost went

442
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Speaker 1: into a full on thing that the UFC would never want, right.

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Speaker 1: You would never want fans to have fear of entering

444
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Speaker 1: into an arena that they could basically be involved in

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Speaker 1: the violence. So when I say that there is a limit,

446
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Speaker 1: it's a soft yes. UFC has to put in some

447
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Speaker 1: element here because if a fighter wants to take a

448
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Speaker 1: political stance, that's on them. Right. As much as Dana

449
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Speaker 1: wants to be like, we don't want to talk about

450
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Speaker 1: COVID in the UFC, we want this to be a

451
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Speaker 1: safe space where you can come in and not and

452
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Speaker 1: not deal with the headlines of the real world and

453
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Speaker 1: just focus on fights. Well that's fine until you have

454
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Speaker 1: fighters who really want to make a statement. And I

455
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Speaker 1: know it doesn't look great, Luke, and it shouldn't that

456
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Speaker 1: the UFC happens to support the same cause that Colby does,

457
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Speaker 1: so there's no problem in letting him run his mouth

458
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Speaker 1: on the mic. I do think there's limits, though, when

459
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Speaker 1: Colby has the kind of speech that he did both

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Speaker 1: before and after this fight that seemed to go further

461
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Speaker 1: than politics. When he's saying I hate Tyron Woodley because

462
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Speaker 1: he stands for everything I hate, like the black, like

463
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Speaker 1: the BLM and all that. I think you're crossing a

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Speaker 1: line into areas of hate. And it's not that I

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Speaker 1: don't think someone should have a space to give their

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Speaker 1: own stance on politics, religion, on life, on treatment, on anything.

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Speaker 1: Right you want to make that stand, it's up to

468
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Speaker 1: the UFC to pull the microphone eventually and give you

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Speaker 1: that space for as long as they will. Just like

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Speaker 1: when fighters got on the microphone and try to call

471
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Speaker 1: out their sponsors, right we go, the announcer goes, Okay,

472
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Speaker 1: that's it, great, great talk, and you good win. There's

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Speaker 1: a limit to things. If you don't put in those limitations,

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Speaker 1: there may be consequences. And I think Colby showed us

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Speaker 1: Luke the pro wrestling side of him ahead of that

476
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Speaker 1: Ouspan fight where he didn't do the trash talk like

477
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Speaker 1: crazy he admitted it in that interview that this is

478
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Speaker 1: all an act. Well, he's doubled down on that act

479
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Speaker 1: to the point that it is gray and I'm not

480
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Speaker 1: here to tell you like the Colby character needs to go.

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Speaker 1: We need villains in this sport. But if you're going

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Speaker 1: to allow unlimited free speech, you are setting up the

483
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Speaker 1: potential for consequences and results. I don't know whether it's

484
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Speaker 1: violence outside the cage or the arena or whatever, but

485
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Speaker 1: you're going to create volatile situations with that. It's a

486
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Speaker 1: gray area luke at best, but it's only gonna take

487
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Speaker 1: one bad consequence to sort of pull back and be like,

488
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Speaker 1: you know, there's a limit to trash talk here.

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Speaker 2: I mean, remind you of the debate around big tech. Right,

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Speaker 2: these platforms like YouTube and Facebook, and they allow these

491
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Speaker 2: provocateurs essentially on either side to say incredibly inflammatory, often

492
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Speaker 2: totally false, outrageous things, and there's a debate here. It's

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Speaker 2: like do we just allow them to say that or

494
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Speaker 2: does big tech step in and then censor them. Well,

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Speaker 2: the problem with censorship is that once you allow big

496
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Speaker 2: tech to start having a say over who gets to

497
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Speaker 2: have a say, they begin to just essentially take out

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Speaker 2: anything that's not a centrist element, and important voices that

499
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Speaker 2: could be unfairly grouped with extremities of a fringe movement

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Speaker 2: now lose out on their chance to voice opposition outside

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Speaker 2: of the Overton window. Right, So you don't really know

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Speaker 2: what to do. But here's the problem. If you just

503
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Speaker 2: let everybody have a voice and say whatever they want

504
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:50,960
Speaker 2: to say, now you get to a situation where you

505
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Speaker 2: have these platforms which have proliferid across the world, that

506
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Speaker 2: have radicalized young people and particularly young men, and it

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Speaker 2: has turned them into It has damaged democracy deeply, not

508
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Speaker 2: just here but abroad as well. It is bad for society,

509
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Speaker 2: It is bad for any kind of the social fabric

510
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Speaker 2: is fraying in no small part because of the radicalization

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Speaker 2: of the online platforms that are designed to maximize false, conspiratorial,

512
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Speaker 2: and frankly damaging information. Now, Dana White asked a question

513
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Speaker 2: at the Post five press conference, who is more free

514
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Speaker 2: speech than us? I would like to give an answer

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Speaker 2: to that. When it comes to fighters saying what they

516
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Speaker 2: want to it is very true that they are very

517
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Speaker 2: hands off, perhaps to your point, Brian, to a fault.

518
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Speaker 2: On the other hand, when it comes to criticism about

519
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Speaker 2: the UFC, They're a little bit more like North Korea.

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Speaker 2: This is an organization that is blackballed unapologetically, multiple reporters

521
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Speaker 2: from multiple legitimate outlets. They made people sign COVID waivers,

522
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Speaker 2: although I think a lot of that has gone away. Certainly,

523
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Speaker 2: in every UFC contract I've ever seen, there is a

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Speaker 2: clause that prohibits fighters from discussing the specifics of their

525
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Speaker 2: pay and so on and so so. To answer the

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Speaker 2: question about who cares more about free speech than us,

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Speaker 2: I would say, relative to those concerns, literally anybody, literally,

528
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Speaker 2: anyone is more forgiving of that than them. The reason

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Speaker 2: why I think that they let the fighters say what

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Speaker 2: they say. Remember there's one key piece of information here

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Speaker 2: that's worth keeping in mind, BC, which is that on

532
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Speaker 2: the books, the code of conduct is still there. They

533
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Speaker 2: have previously fined fighters like Nate Diaz for anti gay slurs.

534
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Speaker 2: You can agree, you can not agree, but it did

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Speaker 2: in fact happen. They have completely moved away from that.

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Speaker 2: Why the reason why they're so pro free speech is

537
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Speaker 2: not because they have some genteel idea about Madisonian politics

538
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Speaker 2: and the way things should be in a free and

539
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Speaker 2: equal society. It's because you begin to blur the line

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Speaker 2: between independent contractor and employee, and they don't want to

541
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Speaker 2: get sideways with that when they already have this lawsuit

542
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Speaker 2: ongoing that appears to be appears to be headed in

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Speaker 2: the plaintiff's direction. That's going to be the former fighters

544
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Speaker 2: using them for money. So what is the right answer here?

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Speaker 2: Let me explain something to you very quickly. If you

546
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Speaker 2: call Tyron Woodley a terrorist, there are two problems with that.

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Speaker 2: Number One, the only people who can do that are

548
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Speaker 2: profoundly stupid and totally unencumbered by the facts. That is

549
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Speaker 2: a reckless, absurd, fact free assertion that does not deserve

550
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Speaker 2: to be taken seriously except for the second part, which

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Speaker 2: is that it is incredibly dangerous. You keep letting people

552
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Speaker 2: do stuff like this, and somebody is going to get hurt.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if it's Tyron Woodley, I don't know

554
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Speaker 2: if it's tomorrow. You allow rhetoric like this that is

555
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Speaker 2: not really dangerous because of what it says, but what

556
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Speaker 2: it says is also totally false, We're going to have problems.

557
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Speaker 2: These are people who, in this particular case, right wing

558
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Speaker 2: provocateurs who like to just label people different from them

559
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Speaker 2: with these incredibly awful labels like Marxists, like communists. These

560
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Speaker 2: are people who could not tell you anything about Marxism

561
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Speaker 2: other than what Facebook told them. These are people who

562
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Speaker 2: know nothing about Communism other than what Facebook told them.

563
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Speaker 2: And to be clear, communism has its own massive set

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Speaker 2: of evils, and I am no Marxist. That is a

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Speaker 2: thing that you cannot sign on to. But we're talking

566
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Speaker 2: about deeply ignorant people sharing profoundly stupid ideas that also

567
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Speaker 2: happen to be very very dangerous. The UFC does need

568
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 2: to step in when it comes to that. I don't

569
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Speaker 2: know if they need to find them or throw them

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Speaker 2: in jail. I'm not suggesting that, but having a word

571
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Speaker 2: with them might be a good idea, because this is

572
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Speaker 2: a path to a very very very bad place. Lasting

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Speaker 2: on this PC hate speechless the last thing, last thing,

574
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Speaker 2: last thing, last thing. Hate speech laws in this country

575
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Speaker 2: never survived judicial review. I know we got to move on.

576
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Speaker 2: They never survived judicial review. You can't pass laws or

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Speaker 2: even as a private entity rules about this. They won't

578
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Speaker 2: survive in court. I'm not suggesting as much. I'm not

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Speaker 2: calling for everyone to lose their job. I'm not calling

580
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Speaker 2: for anyone to be fined, but a level of decency,

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Speaker 2: a norm that you stick to. If if you lose

582
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Speaker 2: sight of that, you are in big, big trouble. And

583
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Speaker 2: we are tumbling down that hill at record speed.

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Speaker 1: Right, and it's tough. It's a gray area when again,

585
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 1: UFC and Dana White are extremely pro Trump, so anything

586
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Speaker 1: Kobe does with the red hat on it starts to

587
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Speaker 1: look like they're backing that as well. And by the way,

588
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 1: just so we can say this, Kobe talking to Donald

589
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,159
Speaker 1: Trump on the phone is like a fun viral moment

590
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 1: is as far as I'm concerned. Colby though on the

591
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Speaker 1: microphone going level of terrorist and basically, I mean, look,

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Speaker 1: there were some things he said that almost sounded straight

593
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Speaker 1: up hatred of black people. And I know, and that's

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Speaker 1: just the way it is, and that's how it can

595
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Speaker 1: be perceived. And I don't think that's any different, Luke

596
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Speaker 1: than somebody a fighter after a win holding up a

597
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Speaker 1: Bible and saying all gay people should burn. It's kind

598
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Speaker 1: of stuff that if you're a brand, and the UFC is,

599
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 1: you've got to determine what is smart and right for you,

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Speaker 1: both financially and in terms of the message that you're

601
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 1: sending that will affect ratings. And right now, it's easy

602
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Speaker 1: to throw a lout of shade at UFC because Colby

603
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 1: and Dana are sort of on the same side as this.

604
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 1: But you gotta be crazy, super careful, and you know, Luke,

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00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 1: the second that this would affect a major sponsor, you'd

606
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 1: see a tightening, You'd see you know. And I want

607
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 1: to ask you straight up, Luke, do you think it

608
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 1: would be okay if Dana and company went the opposite

609
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 1: level and said, forget this crap. No, we're only talking

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Speaker 1: fights inside the fight's fair. We're not losing sponsorships, we're

611
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 1: not starting fights, We're not doing anything. We fight. We

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00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 1: talk about fights in here. I don't want to hear

613
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 1: about your politics or sponsors, your religion, anything like that.

614
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 1: We may have to get to that level if this

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00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 1: keeps up in it and it breeds something, Luke.

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Speaker 2: Again, I don't think passing rules. I mean, they already

617
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 2: have the code of conduct, they just don't enforce it.

618
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 2: Beginning to enforce that again, I think gets to a

619
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Speaker 2: very bad place both for them and frankly, the sport.

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Speaker 2: You are right, this is combat sports. People have a

621
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Speaker 2: right to be rude and mean and frankly awful to

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Speaker 2: each other. What they don't have a right to do

623
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Speaker 2: is and I'm not saying we've gotten there yet, but

624
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 2: if we keep going, we will. What they don't have

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00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 2: a right to do is in danger, health and safety.

626
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 2: You don't have a right to do that. And to

627
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 2: the extent that we get to a point where we

628
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 2: allow this kind of climate to get worse, we are

629
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Speaker 2: we are headed to a bad place. So all I'm

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Speaker 2: suggesting is having some kind of norm respected, if at

631
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Speaker 2: all possible, is a much healthier way to go. Now,

632
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Speaker 2: let's move on. We'll come back to kamzat CHREMAIV in

633
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Speaker 2: just a second, but we have to do this BC.

634
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Speaker 2: Over the weekend, there was a boxing main event Ericson

635
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 2: Lubin getting back to action, winning via unanimous decision. Now

636
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 2: it sets him up for the winner of the next

637
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 2: weekends Jermel Charlow and then Jason Rosario fight. Okay, BC,

638
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 2: did you see anything based on how he looked that

639
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 2: gave you a feeling? No matter who it is, Charlo

640
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 2: or Rosario, he's gonna look good against them.

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Speaker 1: I think it showed us that he can be competitive

642
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 1: and probably will be against them. Obviously. The larger picture here, Luke,

643
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 1: and the concern you have is is Ericson Lubin's chin

644
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 1: as strong as the rest of his game. Look, he's

645
00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 1: only twenty four years old and he's a south fought

646
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 1: paul with big time power. Yet he showed you against

647
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 1: a difficult out in Terrell Goche, who if you make

648
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 1: a mistake against, he'll make you pay that he can

649
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 1: be poised and boxed in over twelve rounds for the whole.

650
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 1: You gotta be impressed with what Ericson Lubin showed you,

651
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 1: but it's hard to overlook. Of course that tenth round

652
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 1: when he did get clocked with the right hand and

653
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 1: was wobbley. He recovered well, his legs were there. But

654
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 1: when you mix that with the way we saw him

655
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 1: get knocked out by one punch against Jamal Charlow in

656
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen in his first title fight, maybe it came

657
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 1: a little bit too early in his run. Whatever, he's

658
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 1: won five in a row since then. I think it's

659
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 1: not wrong to have a little bit of concern and say,

660
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 1: does Lubin have the chin for this level? We can

661
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 1: only find that out in the ring. He passed this test,

662
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 1: and maybe it wasn't the most exciting fight because that's

663
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 1: Goshe's style. But I got nothing before respect Luke for

664
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 1: the way that Lubin went in there and stayed poised,

665
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 1: didn't overextend himself, led with his jab, went to the body,

666
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 1: did all the things he needed to do, and oh,

667
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 1: by the way, hurt Gohshet really bad in the twelfth

668
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 1: round and seemed to be on the verge of a stoppage.

669
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 1: He's going to not be favored against either Rosario and Charlo,

670
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 1: and shouldn't be. But by locking up the WBC Number

671
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 1: one contendership here in the mandatory title shot, he's going

672
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 1: to be in play to have a shot in that fight.

673
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 1: And that's all you really need at this point, Luke.

674
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 1: He's a growing fighter. A lot of those skills are

675
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 1: coming on the fly. I love a lot of what

676
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 1: I see, but don't overlook that warning sign though.

677
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 2: Here's the deal. When he lost to Charlo the first time,

678
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 2: what happened. He got knocked out not quite cold, but

679
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,479
Speaker 2: something pretty close to it in the first round, and

680
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 2: not by some wild punch, not by some accident. A

681
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 2: double jab which was designed to make Lubin duck down

682
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 2: and to his own left, and he got greeted with

683
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 2: a right from Charlo and had just absolutely stopped the

684
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 2: show right there. Did you see something in this fight

685
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 2: that told you it would go differently in the next time. Okay,

686
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 2: maybe he doesn't get stopped in the first, but the

687
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 2: point is the Charlo brother both have pretty good chins.

688
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 2: Insofar as we can tell. We certainly know they're athletic.

689
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 2: We certainly know they hit hard, Jamal maybe more so

690
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 2: than Dremmel. Nevertheless, they still are power punchers, and they're quick,

691
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 2: and they're smart, and they're gifted. You already got knocked

692
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 2: out in the first round. You had to show something

693
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 2: in this fight that can make us reimagine the second one.

694
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 2: I can imagine that the limits of what happened last

695
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 2: time could be stretched. I can't imagine that he'd be

696
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 2: broken unless something really really went differently. Now you might

697
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 2: be asking, what about Jason Rosario. Rosario, I don't think

698
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 2: is the boxer that Jamel Charlow is. At the same time,

699
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 2: he is willing to take risks, he is kind of

700
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 2: heavy handed. He's getting older, he's getting more mature. When

701
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 2: I say old. I'm be old, I mean coming into

702
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 2: his own as a young man. I think he's still

703
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 2: in his early to mid twenties. He is. I think

704
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 2: Lubin a probably a better boxer, but the kind of

705
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 2: risks that Rosario might take, especially with inside fighting even

706
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 2: when he loses, are something that could give him a

707
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 2: little bit of problem. So I might like Lubin a

708
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 2: little bit better against Rosario, even though he had that

709
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 2: nice win over Jay Rock, But against Carlow, I gotta

710
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 2: tell you, I know he's the mandatory challenger BC. I

711
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 2: don't see exactly what we'd be different unless Charlo goes

712
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 2: in there with pneumonia or something. To me, and I

713
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 2: don't mean to be disrespectful, I'm just saying.

714
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 1: Well, Luke, he's grown a lot three years. I mean,

715
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 1: like the loop In that boxed on Saturday, didn't was

716
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 1: not the same fighter against Charlo the first time. Obviously

717
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 1: we didn't see what that fight would have looked like.

718
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 1: And you set up that right hand perfectly. It was

719
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,800
Speaker 1: kind of a freak shot, but perfect timing, the ploy

720
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 1: work to get him to move in and he got caught. Uh.

721
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,320
Speaker 1: I think he is a much more mature, better fighter,

722
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 1: adding Kevin Cunningham as his trainer, has been a key

723
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,319
Speaker 1: in that regard, and he's even told me last week.

724
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 1: And you know, he cleaned up some personal things in

725
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 1: his life that obviously, any you know, pro fighter that

726
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 1: becomes sort of a quasi celebrity is really try.

727
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 2: But BC, he got rocked late in this fight. The

728
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 2: power of UH carried late into this fight. You mean

729
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 2: to tell me Charlo doesn't have the exact same kind

730
00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:00,800
Speaker 2: of power late or even are significantly more so early,

731
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 2: and the same kind of skills to match it.

732
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 1: I need to tell you that three years ago, Lubin's

733
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 1: chances against Charlo, I think would have come down to

734
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 1: more of a puncher's chance in getting that into an

735
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 1: action fight. What Lubin did show us against Gashet is

736
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 1: that now he can box at world class level and

737
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:21,240
Speaker 1: has at least an avenue and a potential luke, especially

738
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 1: when you consider that Jamel Charlo, if there's any flaw,

739
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,360
Speaker 1: a great fighter, a quasi power for pound guy. And

740
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 1: by the way, if he beats Rosario, he's gonna leap

741
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:30,439
Speaker 1: into that top ten if he's not already in there

742
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,240
Speaker 1: in terms of best in the world. Sometimes dremal doesn't

743
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 1: throw enough punches, so there is that potential for him

744
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 1: to get into a boxing match, have that left hand,

745
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 1: use that jab, which is not always easy South Paul

746
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 1: against Orthodox to establish that jab. Lubin is consistently showing

747
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 1: you that he can. I'm saying he has a much

748
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 1: better chance now. If he gets into a firefight against

749
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 1: either guy, he's probably gonna get knocked out of there.

750
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 1: I didn't like the way he looked off a one

751
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 1: punch there from Gashet, but I think he's grown a

752
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 1: lot and I think this was a step forward all

753
00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:58,240
Speaker 1: things considered.

754
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 2: Now, the star of the show, if you ask me,

755
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:05,320
Speaker 2: from Saturday showtime card this guy from Philly, Wow, Jiron Ennis.

756
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 2: They call him Boots, Holy smokes folks, twenty three years

757
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 2: of age. He every time I see this guy box,

758
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 2: he is to me BC. If you're an MMA fan,

759
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:20,840
Speaker 2: you should love Jaron Ennis. Here's why he switches stances.

760
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 2: He can fight South Paul for long extended periods. He

761
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 2: can fight Orthodox for long extended periods. He has brilliant combos, timing,

762
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 2: slick movement, offensively defensively, and he has the confidence of

763
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 2: a twenty three year old who knows nothing but talent,

764
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 2: will and winning right he is. I mean, we'll talk

765
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 2: about coms out SCHAMAI here in just a second where

766
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 2: he just walks down Gerald Meershardt and drops him with

767
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 2: a shot. Jiron Ennis, at least from the boxing side

768
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:49,760
Speaker 2: of things, has that similar kind of pisson, vinegar fu

769
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 2: vibe and yet still in command, still out going out

770
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:55,439
Speaker 2: there beating Carlos Sobrea, who had never been stopped before,

771
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 2: I don't think, finally stopped him and did it with

772
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 2: relative ease. I mean, here's the poor piece that sort

773
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 2: of got me. When he wants to be slick and

774
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 2: precise and stick and move, he can do that, and

775
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 2: then sometimes in this fight he just took risks to

776
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 2: land big shots and still got away with it. He

777
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 2: is incredible. He is next level and the thing that

778
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 2: got me when I looked at this record yesterday in

779
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 2: preparation for today's show. He's been fighting in like the

780
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 2: most random, uh not cities exactly, but facilities and venues.

781
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 2: And he's been fighting in freemason you know, I don't

782
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 2: what you call them shrines. He's been fighting in hardware stores.

783
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 2: He's been fighting in all these places. I'm like, dude,

784
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 2: this guy is due for a step up, not merely

785
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 2: in competition, but in getting the word out about who

786
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 2: he is. People need to pay attention. I think Philly

787
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:46,879
Speaker 2: has a future champion on their hand, and not kind

788
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 2: of like some squeaky in champion, undisputed world title holder,

789
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 2: probably across multiple sanctioning bodies. He appears to me to

790
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 2: be the next big thing in boxing potentially.

791
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, First of all, how dare you disrespect the show

792
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 1: franchise from Showtime, which you know, if they got to

793
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 1: put on a fight in a hardware store or on

794
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 1: a call or slow in Iowa, they'll do that. Luke okay, so.

795
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 2: Is that he fought in Norfolk, Virginia in some of

796
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,280
Speaker 2: the most random places, not on show.

797
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 1: Bok Look, he's next level here, he's twenty six to

798
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 1: oh with twenty four KOs It's it's almost pastime to

799
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 1: see him make a big time lead forward. And look,

800
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 1: this was supposed to be a legitimate step up against

801
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 1: a guy in a bra you who's gone the distance

802
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 1: and fought some very you know, legitimate contenders across this

803
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 1: division throughout his career, and he walked through him like nothing.

804
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 1: He's in the welterweight division which we know is always

805
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 1: overflowing with stars, whether they're long faded names who still

806
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 1: can draw, or young guys on the way up or

807
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 1: champions in the middle. I can't wait to see who

808
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 1: he gets match with because you mentioned he both took

809
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 1: chances in there and showed you his skill. He has

810
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 1: such next level skill command and really a confidence in

811
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,760
Speaker 1: poison there, Luke, that he's able to create such highlight

812
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 1: reel moments because there's so much sophisticated movement to his

813
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 1: setups there and his fainting and all the things he

814
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 1: does that he can put fighters in such a difficult

815
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 1: position off balance and then come with the boom and

816
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:13,320
Speaker 1: absolutely destroy them. I cannot wait to see what happens

817
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 1: when he does step up to that upper elite level.

818
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 1: He's only getting better by the fight. I said it

819
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 1: on Twitter. I meanted, it's a destination television when Boots

820
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 1: Ennis is there, and obviously under the PBC banner, there

821
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 1: are no shortage of fun matchups you can make in

822
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 1: the one four to seven division. Yeah, he leaped through

823
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:31,800
Speaker 1: the screen. He won Saturday night, Luke.

824
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 2: Brian, you ever been to the PA, the Pennsylvania Sheet

825
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 2: Metal Workers Hall, Because Jaron Ennis. Has I think I

826
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:40,800
Speaker 2: worked there.

827
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 1: By the way, yeah, two thousand and five.

828
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he thought at the Masonic Temple in NORFK, Virginia, twise,

829
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 2: and he fought at the Howard Theater in twenty seventeen

830
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 2: here in DC. I didn't even know they were putting

831
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 2: on fights at the Howard Theater.

832
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 1: Okay, is that where Don Wilkes Booth shot your president, Luke.

833
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 2: That's a little bit more downtown. Let's go down back

834
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 2: to I should say UFC Vegas eleven com that Shamaiah

835
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,760
Speaker 2: BC holy smokes, and I got people who were shitting

836
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 2: on me on Twitter when I was like, you know,

837
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 2: this guy's different a pre fight than Kabeb because he's

838
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:11,959
Speaker 2: got a knock out power fight starts seventeen seconds later

839
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 2: he knocks out Gerald meershard one shot. I had a

840
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 2: lot of apologists in my mentions after that. PC. I

841
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 2: really I really enjoyed that moment. But at all seriousness,

842
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,959
Speaker 2: the question goes to you, sir, Okay, is it time

843
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 2: to say the hype is real? It's deserved. Time to

844
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 2: get onto hype. Trade of coamzat Chamaiah.

845
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, buy all the stock, Luke, by it all right,

846
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 1: we still don't know what. We're not gonna know until

847
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:38,839
Speaker 1: he gets pushed into that deep end of the pool.

848
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 1: And that's a reality with any Star. And I know

849
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:43,319
Speaker 1: in recent weeks, in fact, after Kamzat's last win, we

850
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 1: were like, let's be careful, let's not create another Sage

851
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,359
Speaker 1: Northcote Johnny Walker. But I think if we're gonna make

852
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 1: the Johnny Walker comparison here comparison and by the way,

853
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 1: shout out to Johnny Walker for getting a win this

854
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 1: weekend and putting the train back on the tracks. There's

855
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 1: a demeanor inside of kam Zat Jemaiah that I think

856
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 1: is as impressive Luke as what he's doing inside the cage,

857
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,839
Speaker 1: whether it's taking you down and just grinding out your

858
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 1: soul or showing you that flash light switch button power

859
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 1: to knock a guy out cold. It's that he's wired

860
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 1: to be a champion almost right now. And it's very

861
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 1: rare throughout history when you see that those conom McGregor

862
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:21,439
Speaker 1: types on the way up, where you're just like there's

863
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 1: just an extra g low coming out of them. It's

864
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 1: a level of confidence, it's a level of of sort

865
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 1: of uh, you know, on Star power that's yet to

866
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:33,319
Speaker 1: fully develop, but is waiting to leap forward. This guy

867
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 1: calls out everyone, he doesn't care. He's got a great look,

868
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 1: he's got a great persona. I think that's what separates

869
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 1: him from somebody like Johnny Walker, who came in there with,

870
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 1: you know, a plus athleticism and seem to like accidentally

871
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 1: walk into some spectacular knockouts and obviously got figured out

872
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:49,319
Speaker 1: a bit. And we're gonna it's still we gotta wait

873
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 1: and see who he's gonna become. Now, look, tomorrow you

874
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 1: can put comes out in there with a guy who

875
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 1: who seems to have is kryptonite. The problem right now,

876
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 1: Luke is I don't know what this guy's kryptonite is,

877
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 1: because it's not just the offensive force. I feel like

878
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 1: he's he's way more mature than he should be at

879
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 1: this point. He's way more confident than he should be

880
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 1: at this point. And you put all that together and

881
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 1: you get a very dangerous man who is a cold

882
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 1: blooded killer and is going to go in there and

883
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 1: just take people apart. Damian Maya is the right fight

884
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 1: most likely. Let's see him against another style, another sort

885
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 1: of out in here. But the Gerald mehershark types. If

886
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 1: he can cut through them like nothing, Luke, then you know,

887
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,839
Speaker 1: why are we fooling around. Let's match him very tough,

888
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 1: you know, let's even go past Maya. I don't want

889
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 1: to get this guy ruined, but it looks so good

890
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 1: to be true that I have to find out.

891
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 2: So the reason why I thought he might have real

892
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 2: kopower was one he had dropped a lot of opponents previously. Right,

893
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 2: you could go back and look and see there are

894
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 2: times where he gets the takedown by virtue of his

895
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 2: knuckle game, which was kind of interesting. But the one

896
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 2: fight that stood out to me on the regional scene,

897
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 2: you can go and watch it on YouTube, was that

898
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:00,479
Speaker 2: Brave CF twenty three. This was a out of April,

899
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 2: about a year ago when my daughter was born. He

900
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 2: beat a guy by the name of Ikram Aleskarov. Ikram

901
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 2: Aleskarov was a Believer WORRE world champion in Combat Sambo.

902
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 2: And what was noticeable in this fight PC was that

903
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:13,919
Speaker 2: Aleskarov stuffed all of his takedowns. He couldn't get another.

904
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 2: Fight did not go very long. Two twenty six into

905
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 2: the first before half a round, he shut down the

906
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 2: takedowns completely of Kamzat chremaid that is also something to note.

907
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:25,919
Speaker 2: Maybe there are gonna be some limits to his takedown game.

908
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 2: But what ended up happening was Kamzaj just decided to

909
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 2: I think he even did a switching stance if I'm

910
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,840
Speaker 2: not mistaken. But at welterweight, threw a faint, got the

911
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 2: hands down from Aleskarov, and then knocked him out with

912
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 2: basically one shot, just like this. Here's what's interesting about Saturday.

913
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 2: This was at middleweight, so his power one punch power

914
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 2: up a weight class was enough to knock out a

915
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 2: guy like Gerald Miershard, who, by the way, yes he's

916
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 2: been finished in the first round before, but only by

917
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:57,359
Speaker 2: TKO and by Ian Hinisch. Eric Anders defeated him via

918
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 2: split decision, Kevin Holland split decision. Jack Hermanson submitted him,

919
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 2: and then Thiago Santo's beat him, but not until the

920
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 2: second round. I mean, this guy put a punch on

921
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 2: him that those guys basically couldn't, or at least at

922
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 2: a bare minimum didn't. For his power to go up

923
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 2: like that at a weight class that he's not necessarily

924
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 2: best situated for is shocking. So do I think the

925
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 2: hype is real to an extent, Yeah, I suppose I do.

926
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:26,799
Speaker 2: The only thing we haven't seen yet. To your point

927
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 2: is we don't know what we don't know, Demi and

928
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,359
Speaker 2: Maya is going to pull guard? How does he deal

929
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,840
Speaker 2: with a guard player? Or how does he deal with

930
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 2: somebody who can stuff his takedowns but has better striking

931
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 2: than a Leskarov? Or what does he do with somebody

932
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:42,319
Speaker 2: like MAYBEBC, a Colby Covington who doesn't play games and

933
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 2: goes to try to take him down. How does he

934
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 2: react to those things? I don't know, But here's what

935
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 2: I do know. When he's a bully, he is he

936
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 2: is appointment viewing in MMA, some of the most exciting

937
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 2: times in a fighter's career, if not the most exciting,

938
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 2: is when they're on that way up the ladder, because

939
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:03,360
Speaker 2: as every fight they keep making you reimagine what's possible.

940
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 2: I remember the rise of John Jones just that way,

941
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 2: and Comzat's not there yet, but you get that same

942
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 2: kind of feeling when he goes and does stuff like that.

943
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a tank rolling down the street, Luke, and

944
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:15,839
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see who runs in front of him.

945
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 1: That's really where we're at right now. And you know,

946
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,439
Speaker 1: the Habib comparisons at times, you know, you could see why,

947
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 1: same area of the world they're from, but he's such

948
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 1: a and look, we love Habib for almost having sort

949
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:29,400
Speaker 1: of the anti personality right, so quiet and he'll smash

950
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:31,360
Speaker 1: you and all that stuff. The fact that Jamaia is

951
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 1: almost overwhelmingly you know, charismatic in certain regards. There's so

952
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 1: much potential here. If I'm the UFC, I echo what

953
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 1: Dana sort of tea is. Let's get him back in

954
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 1: Abu Dhabi, you know, in a couple of weeks. Let's

955
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 1: let's figure this out, Luke, Let's make this happen, all right.

956
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 2: So lastly, before we move on to the Michael Chandler

957
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 2: point here very quickly, any thoughts about Nico Price and Seroni.

958
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:55,840
Speaker 2: Do any major takeaway from that?

959
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 1: It was weird, right, it was weird. Like you know,

960
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 1: it's not that I'm against the respect shown by both.

961
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 1: It was certainly weird that Nico Price overly celebrated the

962
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 1: joy of a draw against a guy who I know

963
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 1: is a legend, and he rightfully kissed the ring and

964
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,399
Speaker 1: gave cowboy that respect. But you know, a guy would

965
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 1: come off four straight defeats, and you know, we really

966
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 1: should be talking right now whether he should be going

967
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 1: the root of Tyron Woodley as well. And to see

968
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 1: him so excited and looking for a rematch. And look,

969
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 1: you know, I like when they're talking about their kids.

970
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 1: I like the good moments there in the Megan A.

971
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 1: Levy interview. That's all great, But I saw a cowboy

972
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 1: Seroni Luke who It's time. It really is, or at

973
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 1: least it's time to say, what the hell are we doing?

974
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 1: You and I have rightfully criticized in the past few

975
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:43,760
Speaker 1: weeks Anderson Silva's booking by the UFC in his forties. Cowboy,

976
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 1: I think is really in that same territory. There's no

977
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,399
Speaker 1: reason to feed him to any guy. And I know, look,

978
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 1: this could have This had the potential to be an

979
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 1: all action masterpiece, which it wasn't right, but it did.

980
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 1: Nico Price in the cages is crazy. This could have

981
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,279
Speaker 1: been great. But I think for Cowboy SERRONI at this point,

982
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 1: if he wants to keep going, let's give him Clay Weeda,

983
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 1: Let's give him Diego Sanchez, Let's give him that level

984
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 1: of matchmaking, and let's completely give him the victory lap

985
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 1: because the ship has sailed as well for him. Luke

986
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 1: on the idea certainly of him being a contender, but

987
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 1: even being the type of guy that you use to

988
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 1: get over other guys, I don't want to see that

989
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 1: he doesn't pull the trigger the same way I cringe

990
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 1: when he gets hit so much love and respect. Look,

991
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:24,399
Speaker 1: you can't not love cowboy, right, But they shined him

992
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 1: up for one last ride and it was the counterfeight

993
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 1: and it ended, you know, the worst case scenario for him.

994
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 1: Let's not go through this anymore.

995
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:34,479
Speaker 2: The issue for me is that I think you would

996
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:38,320
Speaker 2: agree he showed a lot more offensive life than Tyron Woodley.

997
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,799
Speaker 2: The problem is, you know Woodley had and I said

998
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 2: this on Saturday Night. I mean, you could say what

999
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 2: you want about Colby as a person or as an

1000
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:47,400
Speaker 2: act or whatever. Dude, that's a fighter. He is a

1001
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:49,800
Speaker 2: very worthy adversary. I mean that's you know, the number

1002
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 2: two ranked welterweight in that organization. He is very, very good.

1003
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:56,319
Speaker 2: And Eco Price is not some scrub. He's talented, but

1004
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 2: he's not even ranked, right, And this sort of tells

1005
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 2: you sort of the difference there, little bit. Now you

1006
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:02,800
Speaker 2: can make a case that he was coming on in

1007
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 2: the third. You can make a case, and I thought

1008
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 2: he did beat Pettis in their rematch, but you know,

1009
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 2: in the end the judges disagreed, and certainly here it

1010
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:12,880
Speaker 2: was a majority draw. He didn't look good early and

1011
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 2: steat of had some moments in the middle. I'm just saying,

1012
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 2: while I think he needs to look for the exit

1013
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 2: door PC, and he's had a ton of miles, the

1014
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 2: fact that he's willing to throw the way he is,

1015
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 2: to me, says you don't have to rush him outside

1016
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 2: the door, right because every subsequent defeat is getting worse

1017
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 2: for Withy to the point where now he's breaking his ribs. Certainly,

1018
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 2: Cowboys had a gazillion injuries, but he did put on

1019
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 2: I think something of a spirited performance, at least relative

1020
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 2: to what Woodley did, So to me, there's a little

1021
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 2: bit of a difference there. Now, speaking of sort of

1022
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 2: top contenders and some names we appreciate, UFC made big

1023
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 2: news last week and we'll finally get a chance to

1024
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 2: discuss it. Michael Chandler signed with the UFC. But here's

1025
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 2: the deal. His first fight, he's going to be as

1026
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 2: I get to the side here, his first fight is

1027
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 2: going to make him a backup basically to either Kabebe

1028
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 2: or just Engageee if one of them falls out. Now,

1029
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:12,919
Speaker 2: UFC tried to make him or give him a fight

1030
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 2: against Dustin Porier. We'll talk about that in just a minute,

1031
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 2: but first, BC, you like Chandler to the UFC A

1032
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:23,320
Speaker 2: and B in his first fight as a backup?

1033
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, look, it's weird. I don't want to crap on

1034
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 1: this more than it deserves. And by the way, Patricio

1035
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:32,359
Speaker 1: Pipple had a great tweet basically saying, that's the guy

1036
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 1: I knocked out and now he's your big signee and

1037
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 1: you're making him a backup. I don't love the backup thing.

1038
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 1: Him signing with the UFC is great at thirty four,

1039
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:41,239
Speaker 1: We've talked about it before. He is on one hell

1040
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:44,320
Speaker 1: of a run. He deserves this. Belotour made their decision

1041
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 1: UFC mayor theirs, and I think it was the right

1042
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:50,360
Speaker 1: one for all parties, all three, UFC, Belatore and Chandler.

1043
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see him fight everybody. Luke basically

1044
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:55,360
Speaker 1: in the top fifteen and beyond. That's the type of

1045
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 1: fighter he is. But this is a very muted announcement

1046
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 1: when you announced got this great fighter, and oh yeah,

1047
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 1: he's gonna you know, cut weight and go through a

1048
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 1: training camp to be the potential backup. You could have

1049
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 1: accomplished that same thing by giving him a damn fight

1050
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 1: right on that same card. You can give him a

1051
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 1: Paul Felder, Kevin Lee, somebody in that category. Heck Luke,

1052
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:17,240
Speaker 1: if you wanted to, you could give him somebody worse,

1053
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 1: one that you'd almost be assured he would win, and

1054
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 1: still use him in that same regard as the potential

1055
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 1: main event backup. And if he filled in for either

1056
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:29,439
Speaker 1: of bibor Gatchee, obviously it's muscle TV. It's violence, it's action,

1057
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:31,839
Speaker 1: it's everything we want to see. You know. I don't

1058
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 1: think I don't want a hardb On too. I don't

1059
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 1: think they disrespected him. I just think this is a

1060
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:37,400
Speaker 1: little bit muted to what it could have been. And

1061
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:39,880
Speaker 1: I think it touches on that other topic. Why the

1062
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 1: hell are we not doing Ferguson Poorier, pay both that

1063
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 1: men their money? What are we doing here?

1064
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 2: All right? So yeah, my only view of Chandler is,

1065
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 2: like I signing with the UFC, I totally get it.

1066
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 2: Thirty four, it was now or never he pulled the

1067
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 2: trigger on it. That's cool. The other part for me

1068
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 2: is it's like if they if for some reason Coubet

1069
00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 2: falls out and they do Chandler versus Uh gay Chee.

1070
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 1: I like it.

1071
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 2: I don't hate it. I just wouldn't want to see

1072
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 2: under those circumstances. Conversely, same kind of thing, if Chandler

1073
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 2: gets the call to Kabeb. I don't hate it. I

1074
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 2: just wouldn't. It's just nothing about it is bad. It

1075
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 2: just feels out of order. It's like trying to put

1076
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 2: on your shoes before your pants. You might get them on,

1077
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 2: but there's gonna be a struggle and it's gonna be

1078
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 2: a little bit weird, and you shouldn't go that way

1079
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 2: sort of how I feel like, why.

1080
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 1: Didn't that be? But shouldn't that be Poorier or Ferguson.

1081
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 1: Now you're getting me all all hating on this, But

1082
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 1: shouldn't that be the for them instead of Chandler? Aren't

1083
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:33,399
Speaker 1: they more?

1084
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:36,359
Speaker 2: Here's the thing, I don't know. I wouldn't mind less

1085
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 2: about Chandler filling in. Actually if they had Poorier versus

1086
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:42,879
Speaker 2: Ferguson also on the card. So the news is they

1087
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 2: didn't want to pay Poarier the money. Ferguson took his

1088
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:47,919
Speaker 2: back and was like, oh, you should pay this guy.

1089
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:51,399
Speaker 2: Then they said, how about they they go to Plarier, Hey,

1090
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 2: why don't we just give you Chandler and he said,

1091
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:56,320
Speaker 2: you know what, out of respect for Ferguson, I'm also

1092
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 2: not going to take it. I love the fact that

1093
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 2: Ferguson and Poarier kind of worked in tandem. Here. Most

1094
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:02,840
Speaker 2: of the time opponents just shit on each other for

1095
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 2: no particular reason. Here they work together to increase their pay.

1096
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 2: It didn't exactly come out the way they wanted to,

1097
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 2: but I admire the spirit of it. And now we

1098
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 2: lose the fight. It's like, let me explain something. Let

1099
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:15,479
Speaker 2: me see if I understand this. If you look at

1100
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 2: the combined records of Parier and Ferguson, who have fought

1101
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 2: the absolute hammers of their generation, probably at a discount

1102
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 2: ninety nine percent of the time, you mean to tell

1103
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 2: me we can't come up with our pockets a little

1104
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 2: bit more, especially at Fight Island, when they're giving you

1105
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:36,800
Speaker 2: a site fee and they're paying for logistics and travel

1106
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:39,240
Speaker 2: and everything else. We can't come up with our pockets

1107
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 2: a little bit more to make that fight happen. I mean,

1108
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:44,439
Speaker 2: this is why these stories about, Hey, the UFC put

1109
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 2: fifty thousand dollars in my Christmas stocking. Dude, I've been broke.

1110
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 2: If someone gave me fifty thousand dollars, that would mean

1111
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 2: a lot to me. I would have an emotional attachment

1112
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 2: to somebody who would show that kind of generosity. But

1113
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 2: it doesn't undo the fact that we know it's twenty

1114
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 2: percent annual revenue that gets shared with the fighters, and

1115
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 2: that's it. All these other stories of largess and generosity,

1116
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 2: I get that they mean something to the individual fighter,

1117
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 2: but they don't change the facts, and it's why we

1118
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:15,399
Speaker 2: keep losing good fights like this.

1119
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:18,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know how you fix this? Look and

1120
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 1: I don't know what Dustin Pourriet was asking for. I

1121
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:23,239
Speaker 1: agree with you that pay him it deserves it, or

1122
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 1: call up call up your buddy over there and uh

1123
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 1: in Abu Dhabi, they'll pay for it. But uh, how

1124
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 1: you fix this is put Chandler against Ferguson, right or like?

1125
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:32,359
Speaker 1: Is that hard?

1126
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:34,359
Speaker 2: Yeah? You could do that too. You could do that too.

1127
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 2: I mean, just here here's but this is the problem.

1128
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 2: We see the problem with what the UFC has is

1129
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:41,880
Speaker 2: and I say a problem, like the problem for fighters

1130
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:43,360
Speaker 2: and want more money, it's not a problem for you.

1131
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 2: And I is that they have such a command over

1132
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 2: the top talent that when like, what's what's the what's

1133
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:51,719
Speaker 2: what's the promoter's responsibility to put on the fights that

1134
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 2: people want to pay money to? See? Right, That's what

1135
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 2: it is. So what happens is they have such a

1136
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 2: command of the market essentially that if one of the

1137
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 2: guys they can sub in somebody else and it's a

1138
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 2: really good fighter. To your point, they could just go

1139
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 2: Ferguson versus Chandler and everyone will be like, well, it's

1140
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 2: not exactly what we're looking for, but who's gonna complain

1141
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:13,880
Speaker 2: because hey, that's a phenomenal contest and the fans are

1142
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:16,439
Speaker 2: kind of conditioned to substitution, especially in this COVID era

1143
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:18,319
Speaker 2: where you know, things are falling out left and right.

1144
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 2: So as a service to the fans or the media, yeah,

1145
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:25,360
Speaker 2: it's great. As it relates to fighter pay, it's a

1146
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:28,880
Speaker 2: hurdle certainly that they have to overcome. All right, yeah,

1147
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 2: last one on this we see, well we got to

1148
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:35,400
Speaker 2: move on boxing and MMA. We got big, big doings.

1149
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 2: This weekend. As I mentioned, between the two cards, I

1150
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:41,279
Speaker 2: should say three sort of between the two events. Let's

1151
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:47,839
Speaker 2: say you've got seven world title fights l ABC. Which

1152
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 2: one are you looking forward to the most? Which one

1153
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:51,400
Speaker 2: is everyone sleeping on?

1154
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:55,799
Speaker 1: Such a tough ass answer. Look, I mean the gut

1155
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:58,799
Speaker 1: into my head. Both fight, both cards combined, you're not

1156
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 1: gonna get more action than you're probably gonna get on

1157
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 1: Adasania coast. But let me put that to a side

1158
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 1: for a second. The best actual matchup might be Jamal

1159
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:08,799
Speaker 1: Charlo Sergei Derevinchenko. Look, I want to see that one,

1160
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 1: so frickin' bad. It's the first of the two double

1161
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:14,400
Speaker 1: Charlo main events. And look, when you compare the resumes

1162
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 1: of the two Charlo brothers, Jermel is a little bit

1163
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:21,440
Speaker 1: more proven against elite talent. It's because Jermal moved up

1164
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 1: to middleweight and because of the boxing politricks, if you will,

1165
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 1: where he'd been on a certain side of the street

1166
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:29,919
Speaker 1: where there wasn't access to as many elite one hundred

1167
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:32,840
Speaker 1: and sixty pounders. He's looked great and blown away Hugo

1168
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 1: Santano and you know, getting the decision over Matt Korobov

1169
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 1: and He's won some tough fights, but derevin Chenko offers

1170
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:42,920
Speaker 1: Jamal Charlo the stamp fight, the absolute You are a

1171
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:45,720
Speaker 1: legitimate fighter if you walk in there against that killer

1172
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 1: and come out on top and defend your title. We've

1173
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:51,719
Speaker 1: seen Derevinchenko against the very best in the world at middleweight,

1174
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 1: losing a split decision to Danny Jacobs and losing that

1175
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 1: close as Ball's nail bighter with Gnati Glovkin. That really

1176
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:00,799
Speaker 1: was in the discussion for your Fight the Year last year,

1177
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 1: and deservedly so. Derevinchenko can get inside, he can go

1178
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:07,000
Speaker 1: twelve hard rounds. He's tough as nails. And oh, by

1179
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:09,399
Speaker 1: the way, his nickname is the Technician because he can

1180
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 1: box and do some things. To see Jamal in there

1181
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 1: against that, I cannot wait. Jamal Charlo is plus level

1182
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:19,319
Speaker 1: on things like speed, power, athleticism. He can box too.

1183
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 1: But as we talk about all the time, and here Luke,

1184
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:23,879
Speaker 1: as I spit all over the place, you don't know

1185
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 1: what you don't know. You don't know if you really

1186
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 1: can swim on that level until someone's kicking you off

1187
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 1: the plank and you're down there in the bottom of

1188
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:33,719
Speaker 1: the tank and we're gonna find out as this fight

1189
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:36,839
Speaker 1: rolls on, if it does, whether Jamal Charlo can I

1190
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:39,560
Speaker 1: cannot wait to see. I've been itching like everyone else

1191
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 1: to put the Charlo's in the top ten pounder pound

1192
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:46,360
Speaker 1: and really really say that they are everything they seem

1193
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:49,839
Speaker 1: to be. This is that moment for Jamal. Please don't

1194
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 1: sleep on this. This is an absolutely great fight.

1195
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:55,040
Speaker 2: And the biggest sleeper very quickly.

1196
00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 1: You know, I like a lot of How about this, Luke?

1197
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:02,239
Speaker 1: How about this? You ready for this? You wouldn't think so.

1198
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 1: Dom reyis Jan Blohowitz. You took mine?

1199
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:06,480
Speaker 2: You took you took mine?

1200
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:08,800
Speaker 1: Oh well, why don't you tell the people why? I

1201
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:10,359
Speaker 1: don't want to. I don't want to take anything more

1202
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 1: for you, by the way, because you know our guy

1203
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:14,719
Speaker 1: uh uh web scream. He just hit me up with

1204
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:16,880
Speaker 1: a picture of you and Malcolm X side by side

1205
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 1: of my DMS with the title same energy. You buy

1206
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:22,480
Speaker 1: that at the Uh? Where'd you get those those shades there?

1207
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 2: Look? Yeah, I got some. My wife got me these.

1208
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 2: How about that? I got a little some got some

1209
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:29,680
Speaker 2: tom Fords up in this piece. So the reason why

1210
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 2: I like this fight is I don't know if you

1211
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 2: guys saw it. Over the weekend, it was revealed that

1212
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 2: there is this sort of prefraed ritual that Jan Blohovich

1213
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 2: has where he touches the noose that was used to

1214
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 2: hang a man. Now it's it's not as morbid as

1215
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:43,040
Speaker 2: it sounds. I don't want to spoil it. Go read

1216
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 2: the story about why he does it. It's actually a

1217
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:48,240
Speaker 2: little bit more respectful than it certainly sounds. But here's

1218
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:50,240
Speaker 2: the point I've been trying to think about. Make about

1219
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 2: John Jones or any kind of towering figure in a division.

1220
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:56,680
Speaker 2: There are pluses and there are minuses to their departure.

1221
00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 2: And the minuses are obvious, right when you lose a

1222
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 2: Saint Pierre, or when Silva sort of doesn't have the

1223
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 2: same relationship to middleweight that he once did, and this case,

1224
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:06,320
Speaker 2: John Jones leaving it like heavyweight to go to heavyweight.

1225
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:09,160
Speaker 2: Pick your other, you know, transcendental figure. But some of

1226
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:13,320
Speaker 2: the pluses are that they are so encompassing, so larger

1227
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:15,960
Speaker 2: than life, that the stories of a lot of these

1228
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:19,200
Speaker 2: other guys sometimes don't get told. Yes, if they fought John,

1229
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 2: they get magnified a million ways, but almost as like

1230
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:24,640
Speaker 2: part of his story, especially if he wins and the

1231
00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 2: way that John does. When he leaves, you get a

1232
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 2: chance to learn not more of the story. It depends

1233
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:32,480
Speaker 2: on what you're clued in, but you know the attention

1234
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:35,880
Speaker 2: goes directly to guys that ordinarily would not necessarily get it.

1235
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 2: And Yambohovich hears thirty six. I think years old, people

1236
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:41,440
Speaker 2: are finally learning about this guy and his Polish background

1237
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:44,200
Speaker 2: and all the different sort of weird eccentricities about him,

1238
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 2: and hello again. I have been a big proponent of

1239
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:50,400
Speaker 2: John Jones's ability for a long time. I did not

1240
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:53,000
Speaker 2: score the Tiago Santo's fight against him. I did not

1241
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:56,280
Speaker 2: score THEU Gustuson fight against him. I did score the

1242
00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:58,840
Speaker 2: Don Reyas fight against him. I think Don Reyes is

1243
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 2: absolutely incredible, and I think he'll probably win on Saturday.

1244
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:04,480
Speaker 2: But if he doesn't, can you be surprised because Yanbolohovich

1245
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 2: has been slept on all this time. You've got a

1246
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:10,560
Speaker 2: gun slinger in one way versus a modern fighter in another. Yeah.

1247
00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 2: I love how international it is. I love how weird

1248
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:14,920
Speaker 2: one guy is. The other guy used to be an

1249
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:18,080
Speaker 2: IT technician at a high school and now he's doing

1250
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 2: all this kind of different stuff. They're just a lot

1251
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 2: of really interesting stories that don't get told. The fight

1252
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:26,640
Speaker 2: itself should be interesting, and I don't expect light heavyweight

1253
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:29,439
Speaker 2: to capture your imagination right away. It's going to take

1254
00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 2: some time. But the Path to light Heavyweight in its

1255
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:36,440
Speaker 2: new post John Jones era. It starts Saturday, and I

1256
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:38,440
Speaker 2: love this fight. I love everything about this fight. I

1257
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:39,440
Speaker 2: cannot wait to see it.

1258
00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:42,200
Speaker 1: Well said there, Malcolm. What I liked about what I

1259
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:43,000
Speaker 1: like about this fight.

1260
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:46,040
Speaker 2: Land on Plymouth Rock, Plymouth Rock, landing on us.

1261
00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 1: What I love about this is your Your gut tells

1262
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 1: you well done. Your gut tells you that oh Race

1263
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:54,960
Speaker 1: pushed Jones to the limit. Of course he's gonna beat Blahoids,

1264
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:57,560
Speaker 1: but uh, let's not forget Go back and watch the

1265
00:59:57,600 --> 01:00:00,880
Speaker 1: dom Reyis fight against Vulcan Ozdemir right A. Vulcan won

1266
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:02,560
Speaker 1: that by it. I thought he got and got screwed.

1267
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:05,160
Speaker 1: And you know, Yan is a big boy in that

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01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:07,360
Speaker 1: same regard. If he can keep this fight on his

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01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 1: terms at close range. There's one other sneaky thing about

1270
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Speaker 1: Yan Blohowitz Luke, and sometimes we criticized him for this.

1271
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:16,080
Speaker 1: He could be patient to a fault. He's had some

1272
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:18,400
Speaker 1: boring fights. Remember the Jockaray one. I wanted to throw

1273
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:20,760
Speaker 1: up in my speed all, Luke, that was so bad.

1274
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:24,000
Speaker 1: If he lingers in a five round fight and has

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01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:26,600
Speaker 1: that power and can carry it, there's gonna be a

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01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:28,760
Speaker 1: tough out. Okay, New sand Al, there's gonna be a

1277
01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:31,600
Speaker 1: tough out. Can't wait to see that. And obviously many

1278
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 1: more fights on this six fight loaded double Charlotte pay

1279
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:36,440
Speaker 1: per view card, and anyone who's late to the party

1280
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:38,880
Speaker 1: here Luke probably saying, what if these guys aren't gonna

1281
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:41,120
Speaker 1: preview all the damn pay per view fights? We got,

1282
01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:43,080
Speaker 1: we got some episodes this week, we're gonna roll out.

1283
01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:45,720
Speaker 1: We got, we got the future. We're hitting them hard

1284
01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:46,480
Speaker 1: this week, Luke.

1285
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:49,320
Speaker 2: Right, all right, mind what day? Yes, yes, without in mind,

1286
01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:51,600
Speaker 2: let's get now to our next we Well, well, Luke.

1287
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:54,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stop the damn show because I don't have

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01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:55,440
Speaker 1: producer credits here.

1289
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Speaker 2: But uh, why are we rushing? We're not rushing. It's

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01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:02,200
Speaker 2: twelve We're not rushing. It's twelve four. We are in

1291
01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:04,440
Speaker 2: no way, shape or form rushing. This might end up

1292
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:07,200
Speaker 2: being our longest show. We don't have to go long

1293
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:09,560
Speaker 2: just to go long. There should be a reason to

1294
01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:10,480
Speaker 2: go along like we did.

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01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:12,920
Speaker 1: Look, some people are just born long. You know what

1296
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:15,280
Speaker 1: I'm you know, you know what I mean. You just

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01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:17,200
Speaker 1: can't you can't. You can't hide it, Luke, Okay, it

1298
01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:18,200
Speaker 1: is what it is, all right.

1299
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Speaker 2: I certainly am all right. Time now for when you

1300
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:25,040
Speaker 2: get to ask us questions. It's time for dms from Donks.

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01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:33,440
Speaker 2: Here's the donkey. There we go, all right, BC, you

1302
01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:40,480
Speaker 2: go first. This is from xs Killy, Texas. Whatever is

1303
01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:43,080
Speaker 2: Tyrone which is not his name, it's Tyrone is Tyrone.

1304
01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:45,160
Speaker 2: Woodley's decline the sharpest we have ever seen in the

1305
01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:49,720
Speaker 2: UFC from killer to a no show. Hard to imagine

1306
01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:50,800
Speaker 2: one quicker than that one.

1307
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:53,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mentioned that this is a unique one because

1308
01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:55,560
Speaker 1: again it's not him getting knocked out, like he actually

1309
01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:58,800
Speaker 1: showed fairly responsible defense in his last three losses and

1310
01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:02,080
Speaker 1: was a great shape and all that. I think the

1311
01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:05,000
Speaker 1: starkest fall I've seen Luke is more of like the

1312
01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:08,240
Speaker 1: hen in Barrow type to legitimately go from like you know,

1313
01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:11,880
Speaker 1: pound for pound, number two killer title, you know, defender

1314
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:15,360
Speaker 1: to like seven losses in eight fights and lost his job.

1315
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:18,040
Speaker 1: Johnny Hendricks was also a steep fall. I'm gonna say

1316
01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:21,400
Speaker 1: this again, I've never seen anyone quite like this, because

1317
01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:24,440
Speaker 1: at that point, entering the Usmann fight where Woodley was,

1318
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:26,520
Speaker 1: I think I had him number three pound for pound,

1319
01:02:26,600 --> 01:02:28,320
Speaker 1: and I'm the guy again that was banging the drums

1320
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:31,000
Speaker 1: saying UFC's not promoting this guy. They're not telling you

1321
01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:34,000
Speaker 1: what they should, that he can beat anybody any way

1322
01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:37,240
Speaker 1: that he wants to under his own terms. Look, he

1323
01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:40,200
Speaker 1: got old. Something happened right, something the wiring you know,

1324
01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:44,160
Speaker 1: fell apart on the inside, the computer overheated, something went wrong.

1325
01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:46,760
Speaker 1: But again, I've never seen anybody exactly like this. It's

1326
01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 1: hard to make a comparison.

1327
01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:50,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, here's the thing. It's like Head and

1328
01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:54,040
Speaker 2: Barrow had all this hype, and Woodley was well known

1329
01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:56,960
Speaker 2: and hyped, but not in the same way. Remember he

1330
01:02:57,120 --> 01:02:59,320
Speaker 2: was knocked out in his last Strike Force fight against

1331
01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:01,479
Speaker 2: Nate markquarr. Now he came back and then he beat

1332
01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:04,520
Speaker 2: I think Jay Huron knocked him out. But then he

1333
01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:06,600
Speaker 2: lost to Jake Shields, had a couple wins, lost to

1334
01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:09,160
Speaker 2: Rory McDonald, had some wins, and then he went on

1335
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:11,960
Speaker 2: this long stretch between the Don Young Kim fight and

1336
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:14,479
Speaker 2: then the Darren Till fight where he basically never lost.

1337
01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:16,520
Speaker 2: I think he was a drab with Thompson in between,

1338
01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:20,320
Speaker 2: so had this really long, impactful moment and then it

1339
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:22,280
Speaker 2: just fell off a cliff. The only thing I'd say

1340
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:25,320
Speaker 2: to that is he also is fighting Kamar Usman, who

1341
01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:27,600
Speaker 2: is now the champion, Gilbert Burns who might end up

1342
01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:31,520
Speaker 2: being the champion very soon we'll see, and then Globey Covington,

1343
01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:33,520
Speaker 2: who also could be champion and was the interim champion.

1344
01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:36,560
Speaker 2: It's not like he's fighting scrubs, Like if they bumped

1345
01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:39,320
Speaker 2: him down, could he get right? Maybe? I don't know.

1346
01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:42,080
Speaker 2: It's certainly worth considering. The only thing I would say

1347
01:03:42,200 --> 01:03:47,000
Speaker 2: is A, I've never seen anything like this, I agree

1348
01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:49,760
Speaker 2: with you, And B it's think the age is sort

1349
01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:52,040
Speaker 2: of the complicating factor here. He was so athletic and

1350
01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:54,120
Speaker 2: so talented. He was able to do stuff at a

1351
01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:57,480
Speaker 2: moment in his career when most fighters are done, and

1352
01:03:57,520 --> 01:04:01,400
Speaker 2: now that he's in the past that stage, Uh, there's

1353
01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:03,440
Speaker 2: no more magic to make up for that. It's you're

1354
01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:07,680
Speaker 2: sort of stuck with what the position is, all right, Yes.

1355
01:04:07,600 --> 01:04:09,560
Speaker 1: Luke, hold on, hold on here, Luke. I know you're

1356
01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:11,560
Speaker 1: rushing to go somewhere. I know you do have to

1357
01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:12,600
Speaker 1: actually catch a plane.

1358
01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:14,720
Speaker 2: To by all means make me late?

1359
01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:17,200
Speaker 1: What Jay? Are you Jay? You're still here? J? Jay?

1360
01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:19,360
Speaker 1: Jay's working from his basement today. You don't have a

1361
01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:20,320
Speaker 1: camera there, Jay, right?

1362
01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:22,240
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1363
01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:24,280
Speaker 1: Oh wow, Hey guys, Look it's it's Jay. It's the

1364
01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:26,720
Speaker 1: back of Jay's head. Jay. Why is that Jay?

1365
01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:28,760
Speaker 2: Is that Jay? Or is that scrill x.

1366
01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:33,200
Speaker 1: J? Why are we in such a damn hurry today?

1367
01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:34,920
Speaker 1: What the hell is going on here? I thought we

1368
01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:37,320
Speaker 1: you know, we hired, we pay Luke too much money

1369
01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:40,160
Speaker 1: to avoid having to hurry up.

1370
01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:41,240
Speaker 2: Listen to Luke.

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01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:43,520
Speaker 1: Thomas live chat. The thing goes on and on and on.

1372
01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:44,800
Speaker 1: Why are we in a hurry here?

1373
01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:48,360
Speaker 2: It's actually every is shorter than one of these motherfucker

1374
01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:50,000
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah.

1375
01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:52,640
Speaker 3: Apparently the TSA said they will not wait for Luke,

1376
01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:54,640
Speaker 3: that they're going to leave without him, and that'll screw

1377
01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:55,560
Speaker 3: up the rest of our week.

1378
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Speaker 1: So all right, thank you, Jay, thank you. It's great,

1379
01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:00,919
Speaker 1: great merch that you're wearing there at store dot show

1380
01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:03,480
Speaker 1: dot com. You can you can wear that same thing, Luke.

1381
01:05:03,520 --> 01:05:05,160
Speaker 1: I did want to ask you. We mentioned it was

1382
01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:09,200
Speaker 1: a muted promotion for Woodley and and Colby. In fact,

1383
01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:11,760
Speaker 1: I didn't see Colby do any interviews once that fight

1384
01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:14,400
Speaker 1: was was official. He did one with mm A fighting

1385
01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:16,840
Speaker 1: right before it. I didn't see him do any until

1386
01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:19,280
Speaker 1: like a day before the fight. Do you want to

1387
01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:22,080
Speaker 1: explain what UFC did with that press conference where it

1388
01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:24,840
Speaker 1: was an undercard press conference on Wednesday and then both

1389
01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:28,040
Speaker 1: Kobe and and Tyrone came out for like separate three

1390
01:05:28,120 --> 01:05:31,400
Speaker 1: minute scrums and look, and you know, Tyron took that

1391
01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:33,960
Speaker 1: moment and did black lives matter to everything? And I'm

1392
01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:36,480
Speaker 1: not and that's fine, But that seemed to be a

1393
01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:37,680
Speaker 1: calculated move by Dana.

1394
01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:41,960
Speaker 2: No, I didn't read into it the way that you

1395
01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:44,160
Speaker 2: read into it, but I can't say that you're wrong.

1396
01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:47,440
Speaker 2: You know it's it was you didn't want that, But

1397
01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:50,160
Speaker 2: at the same time, it didn't. It didn't. I didn't

1398
01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:53,000
Speaker 2: think of it that way at first.

1399
01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:54,520
Speaker 1: Like don't you think in a real grudge match you'd

1400
01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:56,360
Speaker 1: put them both on Sports Center and have them screaming

1401
01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:59,280
Speaker 1: at each other, Like that's what you do. It seemed calculated,

1402
01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:02,360
Speaker 1: like Dana didn't want this to turn into sort of

1403
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:05,040
Speaker 1: a political racial mess, right, That would seem like they

1404
01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:06,120
Speaker 1: made moves to avoid that.

1405
01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:11,080
Speaker 2: Perhaps, although that didn't I mean he didn't exactly get

1406
01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:15,040
Speaker 2: that either. You know, all right, let's move along at

1407
01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:18,440
Speaker 2: Jim Gregory eleven BC. This is interesting one, especially in

1408
01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:22,080
Speaker 2: boxing where everyone has a title. Should Derevanchenko lose in

1409
01:06:22,120 --> 01:06:25,360
Speaker 2: another close, great fight, which is entirely possible, where would

1410
01:06:25,360 --> 01:06:28,720
Speaker 2: he be in the list of greatest ever non champion fighters?

1411
01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:33,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, that I mean is It's a tough one. This

1412
01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:35,640
Speaker 1: is a much different debate in boxing, where you know

1413
01:06:35,680 --> 01:06:37,960
Speaker 1: you could accidentally fall into a title. It seems like

1414
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:42,560
Speaker 1: there's way too many belts, both legitimate and ridiculous. But yeah,

1415
01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:45,600
Speaker 1: this guy's thirty four. He had an insanely long and

1416
01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:49,800
Speaker 1: decorated amateur career in which he was teammates and defeated

1417
01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:55,000
Speaker 1: the likes of like Alexander Usak, Alexander gross Vodzik. Excuse me,

1418
01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:58,080
Speaker 1: you know he was Lomachenko's teammate and all that. But uh, yeah,

1419
01:06:58,120 --> 01:06:59,800
Speaker 1: he'd be on that list. I don't know exactly where

1420
01:06:59,800 --> 01:07:02,160
Speaker 1: you'd put him. You know, that list is hard to

1421
01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:04,919
Speaker 1: make because, as I mentioned, someone like Adrian Broner, who

1422
01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:07,040
Speaker 1: we don't you know, people don't always have a great

1423
01:07:07,040 --> 01:07:09,919
Speaker 1: amount of respect for He's a four division champion, Luke,

1424
01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:12,640
Speaker 1: But it's in the it's in the proliferated belt era.

1425
01:07:13,040 --> 01:07:15,880
Speaker 1: It's as different than eight divisions one champion back in

1426
01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:18,640
Speaker 1: the forties and fifties. But you'd take your hat off

1427
01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:22,240
Speaker 1: to Derevinchenko because, as I mentioned, the Jacob's fight was

1428
01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:24,640
Speaker 1: a split decision. I thought Jacob's won, but it was close.

1429
01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:26,840
Speaker 1: But that Cannati Gluff can One is flip a damn coin.

1430
01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:29,520
Speaker 1: I mean, he's walking down the old man and hurting

1431
01:07:29,560 --> 01:07:31,400
Speaker 1: Gloff can Late in that fight. And again, nobody but

1432
01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:34,280
Speaker 1: Canelo has ever ever been able to do that. So uh,

1433
01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:36,880
Speaker 1: this would be uh uh, this would be some Susan

1434
01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:39,919
Speaker 1: Lucci bullshit if this happened. Luke, Okay, if he goes

1435
01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:42,600
Speaker 1: three hard fights, right, how dated of a reference is

1436
01:07:42,640 --> 01:07:44,760
Speaker 1: that if he goes three hard ass fights, it comes

1437
01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:47,400
Speaker 1: up empty on the title level. But hey, Jamal's that

1438
01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:49,000
Speaker 1: good or at least he looks to be. We're gonna

1439
01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:51,600
Speaker 1: find out, Luke, and I didn't want to underscore Jerammel

1440
01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:53,920
Speaker 1: and Rosario. Good God, that fight's gonna be great. But

1441
01:07:54,080 --> 01:07:55,919
Speaker 1: when are we gonna preview the pay per view action?

1442
01:07:56,120 --> 01:07:57,400
Speaker 1: What's our schedule this week?

1443
01:07:57,440 --> 01:07:59,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, we got a bunch of stuff that happened this week,

1444
01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:03,640
Speaker 2: So just hold your horses all right at Ghost Hardware,

1445
01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:07,560
Speaker 2: although they've got some numbers doing some substituting work there.

1446
01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:09,840
Speaker 2: This is a question for BC, Yes it is. What's

1447
01:08:09,840 --> 01:08:13,840
Speaker 2: going on with Taris Schelestik Celestick. He was the best

1448
01:08:13,880 --> 01:08:15,920
Speaker 2: amateur wehl's weight out of that twenty twelve Olympic class

1449
01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:18,400
Speaker 2: and was with Freddy Roach's wild card gym. But we

1450
01:08:18,400 --> 01:08:19,680
Speaker 2: haven't heard from him in a while. Do you know

1451
01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:20,280
Speaker 2: anything about that?

1452
01:08:20,840 --> 01:08:22,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know the situation. I do know the name.

1453
01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:24,639
Speaker 1: I know him as a fighter, I haven't I haven't

1454
01:08:24,680 --> 01:08:26,040
Speaker 1: heard of the name in a while. I wish I

1455
01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:28,720
Speaker 1: had a better answer, more prepared, or could have researched it.

1456
01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:30,920
Speaker 1: But uh, yeah, it was a Freddie Roach guy. I

1457
01:08:30,920 --> 01:08:34,960
Speaker 1: believe he's Ukrainian. If not, it's it's close enough, right, Serbiana,

1458
01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:36,559
Speaker 1: it's close enough. Luke, Okay, I don't mean to be

1459
01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:39,280
Speaker 1: rude there, but it's you know, I'm my Lithuanian people.

1460
01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:42,080
Speaker 2: Vaguely Slavic is what you would say.

1461
01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:45,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's some white guy. Yeah, no, Look

1462
01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:47,680
Speaker 1: he's a good fighter. I don't know. I don't know.

1463
01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:49,720
Speaker 1: I don't know look, look, I can't answer them all.

1464
01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:50,240
Speaker 1: I'm sorry.

1465
01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:53,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, well neither can I certainly, so I'm no better

1466
01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:58,880
Speaker 2: than you, all right? From Underscore Kate LW k E

1467
01:08:59,120 --> 01:09:01,479
Speaker 2: l W. What are your plans for free time in

1468
01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:04,679
Speaker 2: the Showtime pay per view bubble board games, reading, steer

1469
01:09:04,680 --> 01:09:07,600
Speaker 2: exercise slash prison workouts? What do you got BCBC? I have.

1470
01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:09,720
Speaker 2: I don't know we're gonna be able to go to

1471
01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:11,240
Speaker 2: the gym. In fact, I'm pretty sure we're not gonna

1472
01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:11,680
Speaker 2: be able to.

1473
01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:13,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I heard mixed reports on that.

1474
01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:16,639
Speaker 2: If we can, you know what, I come prepared because

1475
01:09:16,760 --> 01:09:20,120
Speaker 2: I brought banded weights, not weights, but each one has

1476
01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:23,000
Speaker 2: a different tensile strength, so summer I can good for

1477
01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:25,519
Speaker 2: ten pounds, twenty thirty, forty fifty. So I've got all

1478
01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:28,439
Speaker 2: of those. I got an ab wheel, and I got

1479
01:09:28,439 --> 01:09:30,320
Speaker 2: some workout closed, so if I need to work out

1480
01:09:30,360 --> 01:09:32,080
Speaker 2: in my room, I'm good to go.

1481
01:09:33,479 --> 01:09:37,519
Speaker 1: Pr Maven, head of communications there, Chris Deblasio of Showtime

1482
01:09:37,560 --> 01:09:39,800
Speaker 1: has told me that he's been doing the in room

1483
01:09:39,840 --> 01:09:43,040
Speaker 1: prison workout, the legitimate one from the bubble And you

1484
01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:45,200
Speaker 1: know it's looking a little bit cut there out on

1485
01:09:45,280 --> 01:09:47,760
Speaker 1: Sunday on the boat, so shout out to dablase right there,

1486
01:09:47,840 --> 01:09:50,680
Speaker 1: big time fish head. That guy. I'm gonna do, you know,

1487
01:09:50,720 --> 01:09:53,320
Speaker 1: one hundred push ups and one hundred squads every morning, Luke, Okay,

1488
01:09:53,360 --> 01:09:54,360
Speaker 1: I think that's enough. Right?

1489
01:09:54,960 --> 01:09:56,840
Speaker 2: Are you gonna do any reading board games?

1490
01:09:57,479 --> 01:09:59,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna bring books, but never read them, and I'll

1491
01:09:59,720 --> 01:10:02,400
Speaker 1: probably to be on YouTube each night watching nineties NBA

1492
01:10:02,439 --> 01:10:03,400
Speaker 1: playoff games in full.

1493
01:10:03,439 --> 01:10:05,960
Speaker 2: That's what I do, right, you should be You should

1494
01:10:05,960 --> 01:10:08,400
Speaker 2: be with me podcasting every night, which you should be doing.

1495
01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:10,800
Speaker 1: That's well, that's that's the real answer. That's what we're

1496
01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:12,120
Speaker 1: gonna do, Luke, were gonna what are we gonna do?

1497
01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:13,519
Speaker 1: We're gonna get a case of beer, We're gonna get

1498
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:14,400
Speaker 1: some medicals. What are we gonna do?

1499
01:10:14,439 --> 01:10:17,240
Speaker 2: End up as I think I think we should. I mean,

1500
01:10:17,439 --> 01:10:18,840
Speaker 2: you know, I can't. I don't want to declare for

1501
01:10:18,840 --> 01:10:20,559
Speaker 2: the audience is what we're going to do. But if

1502
01:10:20,600 --> 01:10:23,160
Speaker 2: it's up to me, I'm gonna podcast every night, including tonight,

1503
01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:25,040
Speaker 2: so we'll see how that goes.

1504
01:10:25,640 --> 01:10:29,120
Speaker 1: You're in the podcast tonight, Wow, all right after Dark

1505
01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:30,879
Speaker 1: with Luke No Rules Baby, Yeah.

1506
01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:34,720
Speaker 2: That's right. The Fight Sphere Episode one bitches all right

1507
01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:37,519
Speaker 2: and last but not least, from iHeart to meet. I

1508
01:10:37,520 --> 01:10:39,080
Speaker 2: don't think that's what it means, but I'm gonna say

1509
01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:42,080
Speaker 2: it this way. What would be more damaging to the

1510
01:10:42,080 --> 01:10:46,320
Speaker 2: show A Connor McGregor like sexual allegation against either Luke

1511
01:10:46,360 --> 01:10:51,080
Speaker 2: Brian or Jay j most likely or yeah, or b

1512
01:10:51,080 --> 01:10:54,480
Speaker 2: Brian actually becomes well read and Vegan.

1513
01:10:54,880 --> 01:10:57,479
Speaker 1: Does that mean becomes or that means that Brian actually

1514
01:10:57,640 --> 01:11:01,400
Speaker 1: is and it's just hot? God damn Wark making something

1515
01:11:01,479 --> 01:11:05,799
Speaker 1: this pretty look this ugly? Right, Billy ho Right.

1516
01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:10,280
Speaker 2: That's that's another interpretation. What do you think Jay getting

1517
01:11:10,320 --> 01:11:12,800
Speaker 2: hemmed up for, you know, masturbidding at the bus ring.

1518
01:11:12,800 --> 01:11:15,599
Speaker 1: And Jay Jay? I can't Jay, can you come in here? Please?

1519
01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:18,040
Speaker 1: I can't wait until the allegations come out against No

1520
01:11:18,280 --> 01:11:21,240
Speaker 1: Escape that we we were thinking, you guys got got

1521
01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:23,920
Speaker 1: Lou Pearlman for years, right, you lost your money and

1522
01:11:23,960 --> 01:11:27,320
Speaker 1: your innocence. Maybe it was you guys doing that to others.

1523
01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:29,439
Speaker 3: Maybe do you know what I would have given to

1524
01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:32,280
Speaker 3: get Lou Pearlman? That I mean, that's the dream, that

1525
01:11:32,439 --> 01:11:36,880
Speaker 3: is the dream. Instead I got Ron Johnson. Nobody's ever

1526
01:11:36,880 --> 01:11:38,559
Speaker 3: heard of Ron Johnson or No Escape.

1527
01:11:38,680 --> 01:11:41,280
Speaker 2: So here we are. I don't even know. I don't

1528
01:11:41,320 --> 01:11:43,559
Speaker 2: even know who Ron Johnson is, but I know from

1529
01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:45,240
Speaker 2: that name what he did to you. I can tell

1530
01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:45,639
Speaker 2: you that.

1531
01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:48,000
Speaker 1: I love that. I love that Jason Record saying I

1532
01:11:48,040 --> 01:11:52,840
Speaker 1: wish I got lou Pearlman that wow seven days a week.

1533
01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:55,880
Speaker 1: Why do you think Lance Base wanted to go to

1534
01:11:55,880 --> 01:11:56,320
Speaker 1: the space?

1535
01:11:56,439 --> 01:11:56,559
Speaker 2: Right?

1536
01:11:56,600 --> 01:11:56,880
Speaker 1: All right?

1537
01:11:56,960 --> 01:12:01,639
Speaker 2: PC? Fucking a answer to the question, please, what would

1538
01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:04,280
Speaker 2: happen actually became vegan and like a big time book

1539
01:12:04,280 --> 01:12:05,519
Speaker 2: reader would have fuck up the vibe?

1540
01:12:08,160 --> 01:12:10,840
Speaker 1: I might think clearly for once, you know, right, maybe

1541
01:12:10,840 --> 01:12:12,760
Speaker 1: maybe it would add to it, Luke, maybe you know

1542
01:12:13,400 --> 01:12:13,680
Speaker 1: you all?

1543
01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:17,679
Speaker 2: Actually I'll say this, you always think clearly right. Everything

1544
01:12:17,680 --> 01:12:20,599
Speaker 2: with you starts with this nugget of truth and then

1545
01:12:21,040 --> 01:12:24,400
Speaker 2: sometimes goes in wacky directions. But you're usually pretty centered

1546
01:12:24,439 --> 01:12:27,320
Speaker 2: on the nucleus of your idea. The nucleus of your

1547
01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:31,559
Speaker 2: ideas are actually pretty pretty uh uh, not moderate per se,

1548
01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:35,600
Speaker 2: but well informed, defensible, you know, good stuff.

1549
01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:40,800
Speaker 1: Including that Antonina might be the sneakier one of the two.

1550
01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:44,880
Speaker 2: Well, now you're just speaking of slanderous bullshit. Okay, Well

1551
01:12:44,920 --> 01:12:46,920
Speaker 2: with that in mind, BC, Speaking of which, it is

1552
01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:50,720
Speaker 2: time for the part where you steer this ship. Take

1553
01:12:50,760 --> 01:12:51,439
Speaker 2: it away, good.

1554
01:12:51,320 --> 01:12:55,280
Speaker 1: Sir, Yeah, here's what we do. As you know, this

1555
01:12:55,439 --> 01:12:57,240
Speaker 1: is the best. Look, here's the deal. It's a really

1556
01:12:57,240 --> 01:12:59,320
Speaker 1: big week in our life. And in all jokes aside,

1557
01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:01,680
Speaker 1: we think everyone for supporting us to get us to

1558
01:13:01,720 --> 01:13:04,400
Speaker 1: this point. We've been teasing things for a long time.

1559
01:13:04,479 --> 01:13:06,760
Speaker 1: This is just the beginning. We're gonna start hitting you

1560
01:13:06,880 --> 01:13:10,080
Speaker 1: pretty hard. MK Daily coming up and yes we will

1561
01:13:10,080 --> 01:13:12,200
Speaker 1: be there on the halftime show this week double Charlo

1562
01:13:12,280 --> 01:13:14,680
Speaker 1: Saturday night showtime pay per view. So I want to

1563
01:13:14,720 --> 01:13:17,040
Speaker 1: hit you, Luke with a double pay per view edition

1564
01:13:17,160 --> 01:13:19,439
Speaker 1: of Have You Seen the Shit? We scoured the globe,

1565
01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:21,840
Speaker 1: the good, the bad, and the ugly, the highs and lows. Luke.

1566
01:13:21,920 --> 01:13:25,040
Speaker 1: I took some flak last week. People say I pussy

1567
01:13:25,080 --> 01:13:30,960
Speaker 1: footed Rashad Evans and indoctrinated him into a fight heavy

1568
01:13:31,080 --> 01:13:34,280
Speaker 1: Have you seen this shit? Not enough dong, not enough

1569
01:13:34,360 --> 01:13:37,280
Speaker 1: drunk chicks, not enough you know fat people. Would you

1570
01:13:37,320 --> 01:13:38,880
Speaker 1: agree with that or you didn't watch it?

1571
01:13:38,920 --> 01:13:40,200
Speaker 2: I didn't watch last week's show.

1572
01:13:41,200 --> 01:13:44,960
Speaker 1: All right, well I'm coming and I'm coming hard. Okay,

1573
01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:47,519
Speaker 1: like Ron Johnson, here we go. Let's start off here, Luke.

1574
01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:49,880
Speaker 1: I don't know if you watch one kickboxing, but they

1575
01:13:49,880 --> 01:13:53,920
Speaker 1: had the fastest ko in company history four seconds watch

1576
01:13:54,040 --> 01:13:58,599
Speaker 1: copy ton Wow, send pensionog to hell, Luke, look at

1577
01:13:58,600 --> 01:13:59,920
Speaker 1: that shot, right.

1578
01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:02,679
Speaker 2: It's like an opening bout from the Kumute.

1579
01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:06,800
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, uh, I think Shatri just emailed you to

1580
01:14:06,880 --> 01:14:08,719
Speaker 1: let you know that this was the most watched highlight

1581
01:14:08,920 --> 01:14:10,760
Speaker 1: in in uh in global history, Luke.

1582
01:14:10,920 --> 01:14:13,880
Speaker 2: Seventy people watched it, believe that.

1583
01:14:13,840 --> 01:14:15,800
Speaker 1: And it helped Kurt. Yeah, it helped cure COVID this

1584
01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:17,760
Speaker 1: highlight it was great. Yeah, So shout out to that

1585
01:14:17,840 --> 01:14:20,120
Speaker 1: man Capy Tan right there. Hey, let's go to Belcher

1586
01:14:20,160 --> 01:14:21,960
Speaker 1: two forty five. This is a little bit more than

1587
01:14:21,960 --> 01:14:23,880
Speaker 1: a week ago, but I forgot about this one, you know,

1588
01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:27,280
Speaker 1: Alex easy polize, Luke. Look what he did to Hafiel

1589
01:14:27,320 --> 01:14:37,160
Speaker 1: Carvallo slag. Oh let the boys be boys? Right? Yeah? Wow, Yes,

1590
01:14:37,400 --> 01:14:39,040
Speaker 1: that's some pile driver right there. Right.

1591
01:14:39,880 --> 01:14:42,120
Speaker 2: No, I don't think so, is it?

1592
01:14:43,040 --> 01:14:48,080
Speaker 1: Uh that can't shout out to Jay for throwing up that. Yeah,

1593
01:14:48,080 --> 01:14:50,200
Speaker 1: but uh, wow that Luked, I don't care if you

1594
01:14:50,240 --> 01:14:54,840
Speaker 1: tucked the chin. That's gotta that's gotta stuck, right all right, Hey,

1595
01:14:54,880 --> 01:14:58,200
Speaker 1: let's go on. What's this promotion? ACA? Is that Russia?

1596
01:14:58,880 --> 01:14:59,200
Speaker 2: I think?

1597
01:14:59,240 --> 01:15:02,880
Speaker 1: So check out this up kick, Luke from the dude,

1598
01:15:03,960 --> 01:15:08,000
Speaker 1: that's the old musasi on Jakaray and dream win right there. Yes,

1599
01:15:08,040 --> 01:15:11,320
Speaker 1: the man's name is lam Ali Nagiev and he did

1600
01:15:11,360 --> 01:15:16,439
Speaker 1: the upkick from hades on iman Lee Gomzathanov. Wow, Luke,

1601
01:15:16,520 --> 01:15:19,120
Speaker 1: that's heel right there, Bro, it's a hell turn.

1602
01:15:19,400 --> 01:15:22,920
Speaker 2: If you've got a beard without the ship, without the mustache,

1603
01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:26,280
Speaker 2: and your name has v's and z's in it with

1604
01:15:26,439 --> 01:15:30,000
Speaker 2: also Arabic names, you are not to be trifled with.

1605
01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:33,080
Speaker 1: No, not not in the streets. I will third world

1606
01:15:33,120 --> 01:15:35,559
Speaker 1: your ass and not on the mat, Lar Luke. Okay,

1607
01:15:35,560 --> 01:15:38,880
Speaker 1: thank you. That is fantastic, Luke. Speaking of kicks to

1608
01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:42,559
Speaker 1: the head, check this out from your world football. Look,

1609
01:15:42,600 --> 01:15:45,000
Speaker 1: we got football highlights here. This can't be legal.

1610
01:15:45,479 --> 01:15:51,400
Speaker 2: Oh he did the old he Gita scorpion kick.

1611
01:15:52,240 --> 01:15:55,360
Speaker 1: Oh my god, who is that employee number eight right there?

1612
01:15:55,479 --> 01:15:57,880
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know what league this is.

1613
01:15:57,880 --> 01:15:59,880
Speaker 1: Is that Kaka or is that you guys? Just shit?

1614
01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:03,240
Speaker 1: All right, let's get out of here. Hey, look, let's

1615
01:16:03,240 --> 01:16:06,680
Speaker 1: go to a dorm quad backyard football. You want to

1616
01:16:06,680 --> 01:16:09,439
Speaker 1: see the greatest kick return in backyard football history. Check

1617
01:16:09,479 --> 01:16:15,719
Speaker 1: out this fella. Whoop woop I just burmaned you there, Luke. Wow,

1618
01:16:15,720 --> 01:16:19,280
Speaker 1: look at this guy. Wow, Luke's still on it, rumbling, bumbling.

1619
01:16:20,320 --> 01:16:22,479
Speaker 2: Look at this one black dude. Fifty white guys, not

1620
01:16:22,640 --> 01:16:24,519
Speaker 2: one of them can get the job done. Amazing.

1621
01:16:25,360 --> 01:16:27,639
Speaker 1: This is shirtless tackle and he's making dudes run into

1622
01:16:27,640 --> 01:16:29,920
Speaker 1: each other. It's like Michael Vick against the damn Vikings. Right,

1623
01:16:29,960 --> 01:16:32,760
Speaker 1: this is great. Somebody just shot a dog. This is

1624
01:16:32,800 --> 01:16:33,120
Speaker 1: not good.

1625
01:16:33,320 --> 01:16:36,920
Speaker 2: I've actually, I've actually lived this experience. One time, we

1626
01:16:36,920 --> 01:16:38,880
Speaker 2: were playing tackle football with some friends of mine. This

1627
01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:41,439
Speaker 2: was like, what was this? It was eighth grade and

1628
01:16:41,479 --> 01:16:43,280
Speaker 2: we invited one of the kids, who was an actual

1629
01:16:43,360 --> 01:16:45,040
Speaker 2: running back on the football team to come play in

1630
01:16:45,080 --> 01:16:48,840
Speaker 2: the park with us, and this, oh, he fucking ran

1631
01:16:49,760 --> 01:16:52,000
Speaker 2: all over us. It was terrible.

1632
01:16:52,840 --> 01:16:54,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know how many girls this guy banged after

1633
01:16:54,960 --> 01:16:55,439
Speaker 1: this game? This?

1634
01:16:55,880 --> 01:16:58,200
Speaker 2: Oh, how many of these guys had girlfriends? Because that's

1635
01:16:58,200 --> 01:16:58,679
Speaker 2: the answer.

1636
01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:02,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's get drunk here, Luke. Let's see drunk moves

1637
01:17:02,280 --> 01:17:02,559
Speaker 1: of this.

1638
01:17:02,560 --> 01:17:04,880
Speaker 2: This is this dude. This dude is the guy in

1639
01:17:04,960 --> 01:17:07,559
Speaker 2: all the Archie comics who's all muscled up, who kicks

1640
01:17:07,600 --> 01:17:10,080
Speaker 2: face in the kickstand in the face of all the losers.

1641
01:17:11,960 --> 01:17:13,680
Speaker 1: Luke, I don't know what you call this, but I

1642
01:17:13,720 --> 01:17:15,120
Speaker 1: want to learn. In fact, if you want to do

1643
01:17:15,200 --> 01:17:17,200
Speaker 1: this in your hotel bubble, I'm down. Check out this

1644
01:17:17,240 --> 01:17:20,240
Speaker 1: fellow with the forty ounce and they got a is

1645
01:17:20,280 --> 01:17:21,599
Speaker 1: this a beer bong? What is this?

1646
01:17:21,680 --> 01:17:24,360
Speaker 2: Luke? Does that?

1647
01:17:24,360 --> 01:17:27,840
Speaker 1: They're lighting? So they're lighting the top of it. There's

1648
01:17:27,880 --> 01:17:29,599
Speaker 1: a hole in the bottom. And look at this dude

1649
01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:32,439
Speaker 1: take forty ounces to freedom right in front of us.

1650
01:17:35,000 --> 01:17:39,040
Speaker 2: I can't horrified or amazed or aroused.

1651
01:17:39,840 --> 01:17:41,599
Speaker 1: I'm definitely aroused. Look at that.

1652
01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:42,360
Speaker 2: Whoa.

1653
01:17:44,120 --> 01:17:46,040
Speaker 1: I want to try that. I'll do that on camera too.

1654
01:17:46,080 --> 01:17:46,920
Speaker 1: That is fa whoa.

1655
01:17:48,320 --> 01:17:57,280
Speaker 2: Now that, ladies and gentlemen, that is awesome. This is

1656
01:17:57,280 --> 01:17:59,920
Speaker 2: the official drink of this show right there.

1657
01:18:00,080 --> 01:18:02,479
Speaker 1: Yes, should the champagne of beer is forty. I like

1658
01:18:02,520 --> 01:18:03,400
Speaker 1: that high life right there.

1659
01:18:03,720 --> 01:18:06,599
Speaker 2: Actually it's not a forty if it's not malt liquor,

1660
01:18:06,680 --> 01:18:07,200
Speaker 2: just so you know.

1661
01:18:07,320 --> 01:18:10,679
Speaker 1: But okay, all right, hardcore?

1662
01:18:10,840 --> 01:18:13,040
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, I know the guy. I know the

1663
01:18:13,080 --> 01:18:16,200
Speaker 2: guy personally. He's been to my house. Who has the

1664
01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:19,920
Speaker 2: this is true Guinness Book of World Records largest forty

1665
01:18:19,960 --> 01:18:23,240
Speaker 2: ounce bottle collection. He owns forty ounce malt liquor dot

1666
01:18:23,240 --> 01:18:25,880
Speaker 2: com and he's explained to me, if you put drink beer,

1667
01:18:26,360 --> 01:18:29,320
Speaker 2: he is married actually as kids. If you put beer

1668
01:18:29,760 --> 01:18:32,160
Speaker 2: into a forty ounce container, it's not a forty A

1669
01:18:32,240 --> 01:18:35,439
Speaker 2: forty is only malt liquor. Do you know what there's

1670
01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:38,000
Speaker 2: malt liquor? Do you know differing malt liquor and beer?

1671
01:18:39,880 --> 01:18:41,639
Speaker 1: Yeah? I do, Luke, I do know the difference.

1672
01:18:41,680 --> 01:18:42,400
Speaker 2: What is the difference?

1673
01:18:43,000 --> 01:18:45,439
Speaker 1: White people drink beer? Not just kidding, No, I mean

1674
01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:47,360
Speaker 1: it's how it's made, Luke. I'm drinking. You know how

1675
01:18:47,400 --> 01:18:48,920
Speaker 1: much forties I've drink in my life, dude.

1676
01:18:48,920 --> 01:18:52,120
Speaker 2: You know the difference is that in the fermentation process,

1677
01:18:52,160 --> 01:18:54,960
Speaker 2: they add sugar to the beer basically, so they get

1678
01:18:55,000 --> 01:18:57,120
Speaker 2: up the amount of alcohol they can stuff into it.

1679
01:18:57,160 --> 01:18:59,720
Speaker 2: Hence the name malt liquor. That's why you can get like,

1680
01:18:59,800 --> 01:19:02,759
Speaker 2: you know, ridiculously high percentage alcohol relative to what normal

1681
01:19:02,800 --> 01:19:05,679
Speaker 2: beer is. But it also means you're working with dirt

1682
01:19:05,720 --> 01:19:08,400
Speaker 2: cheap ingredients, hence the name a liquor, and hence the

1683
01:19:08,439 --> 01:19:09,960
Speaker 2: price of dollar fifty four forty.

1684
01:19:10,120 --> 01:19:13,000
Speaker 1: So don't make me tell you again my helf invest

1685
01:19:13,120 --> 01:19:16,200
Speaker 1: in private stock forty stories. Those are great, by the way,

1686
01:19:16,479 --> 01:19:19,439
Speaker 1: certain drinking things misgenerations. Like I was before the Edward

1687
01:19:19,479 --> 01:19:22,439
Speaker 1: Scissorhands forty generation. That's something I wish I did. We

1688
01:19:22,479 --> 01:19:25,320
Speaker 1: were more of a I've done it tape power hour people.

1689
01:19:25,680 --> 01:19:27,879
Speaker 2: I did a I've done a century? Ever done a century?

1690
01:19:28,520 --> 01:19:30,439
Speaker 1: No? No, it feels like I would throw up at the.

1691
01:19:30,439 --> 01:19:32,280
Speaker 2: End of it. Look, a century is a power hour,

1692
01:19:32,360 --> 01:19:34,200
Speaker 2: but instead of an hour, you do it for one

1693
01:19:34,240 --> 01:19:34,880
Speaker 2: hundred minutes.

1694
01:19:35,720 --> 01:19:37,439
Speaker 1: You want to do a Hey, how about this? How

1695
01:19:37,479 --> 01:19:40,320
Speaker 1: about you and I do a power half hour during

1696
01:19:40,320 --> 01:19:42,960
Speaker 1: a podcast in your hotel room? Right, we'll make okay?

1697
01:19:43,439 --> 01:19:44,800
Speaker 2: No, no, we should do a real one.

1698
01:19:45,000 --> 01:19:47,720
Speaker 1: Because the metal songs with seventies.

1699
01:19:48,040 --> 01:19:52,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, here's the rock, here's the thing. Three beers is

1700
01:19:53,439 --> 01:19:57,080
Speaker 2: this is the buzzing of flies to me. You want

1701
01:19:57,080 --> 01:20:01,880
Speaker 2: to do it? You gotta do it right? Can you

1702
01:20:01,880 --> 01:20:03,120
Speaker 2: hear me there? Yeah?

1703
01:20:03,120 --> 01:20:05,920
Speaker 1: I can hear you now. Jay's pulling wires over there. Sorry,

1704
01:20:05,960 --> 01:20:08,519
Speaker 1: all right, I'll do it, Luke, I'll do it. You

1705
01:20:08,520 --> 01:20:10,120
Speaker 1: want to move on with the show, I'm down.

1706
01:20:10,400 --> 01:20:11,599
Speaker 2: Next next, all right?

1707
01:20:11,640 --> 01:20:13,360
Speaker 1: It was it was a birthday for this girl. I

1708
01:20:13,360 --> 01:20:15,080
Speaker 1: think she turned twenty one, Luke, but I don't think

1709
01:20:15,120 --> 01:20:17,519
Speaker 1: she has the best friends. Is this legal? What is

1710
01:20:17,560 --> 01:20:19,519
Speaker 1: happening here? This is not how you treat somebody on

1711
01:20:19,520 --> 01:20:29,840
Speaker 1: their birthday, Luke, Oh god, that's as salt brother. That

1712
01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:32,519
Speaker 1: is like I've seen strippers treated better.

1713
01:20:32,640 --> 01:20:35,439
Speaker 2: I mean, come on, they why are they in the

1714
01:20:35,479 --> 01:20:36,720
Speaker 2: middle of a cornfield?

1715
01:20:37,439 --> 01:20:40,280
Speaker 1: I don't know. That is uh yeah, we might want

1716
01:20:40,320 --> 01:20:42,720
Speaker 1: to get off of this before we get arrested. All right, hey, Luke,

1717
01:20:42,760 --> 01:20:45,160
Speaker 1: let's go to great sports celebrations. Are you down with

1718
01:20:45,200 --> 01:20:49,679
Speaker 1: this Cincinnati Reds picture? Trevor Bauer getting the strike three

1719
01:20:49,720 --> 01:20:52,000
Speaker 1: and check out the celebration. What would you call this?

1720
01:20:54,960 --> 01:20:59,080
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I call that winning, Luke. That is fantastic

1721
01:20:59,160 --> 01:21:01,519
Speaker 1: right there. That guys are weird, but he's got good stuff, got.

1722
01:21:01,439 --> 01:21:04,200
Speaker 2: Nice Yeah, you know what my new favorite picture.

1723
01:21:05,040 --> 01:21:07,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, hey, let's move on here, Luke, you

1724
01:21:07,040 --> 01:21:10,400
Speaker 1: gotta be careful. Look, anytime we're men, we see poles,

1725
01:21:10,680 --> 01:21:13,960
Speaker 1: we want to jump over them, but bad things typically happen. Luke,

1726
01:21:14,000 --> 01:21:17,639
Speaker 1: you can you can lose your shorts? Luke, you can?

1727
01:21:18,120 --> 01:21:20,000
Speaker 1: That is uh, that is fantastic.

1728
01:21:20,280 --> 01:21:24,680
Speaker 2: What are this Dude's shorts made out of cotton candy?

1729
01:21:25,720 --> 01:21:27,040
Speaker 2: They just disintegrated.

1730
01:21:27,960 --> 01:21:30,280
Speaker 1: Look at that fly paper.

1731
01:21:30,400 --> 01:21:33,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've never seen I've never seen denim just like

1732
01:21:33,520 --> 01:21:35,160
Speaker 2: you know, disappear.

1733
01:21:37,760 --> 01:21:39,720
Speaker 1: Let's go out here. It's tip on tip time, but

1734
01:21:39,800 --> 01:21:41,960
Speaker 1: with the toes, Luke, is this official tip on tip?

1735
01:21:42,000 --> 01:21:44,880
Speaker 1: They call it a pinky promise? But uh, that's love

1736
01:21:44,960 --> 01:21:45,760
Speaker 1: right there, right, No.

1737
01:21:45,880 --> 01:21:49,360
Speaker 2: That's just being broke, that's what that is. All right,

1738
01:21:49,520 --> 01:21:50,920
Speaker 2: all right, I've been there.

1739
01:21:51,320 --> 01:21:54,479
Speaker 1: Okay, Hey, let's go to a weird gym people. This

1740
01:21:54,560 --> 01:21:56,960
Speaker 1: is your type of thing, Luke. This is workout weirdos.

1741
01:21:57,040 --> 01:21:59,479
Speaker 1: Check out this dude rocking out. It's a cannibal corn

1742
01:22:01,520 --> 01:22:06,000
Speaker 1: on the step machine. Wow, Luke, you want to rage

1743
01:22:06,080 --> 01:22:07,920
Speaker 1: like no one's watching, right, know.

1744
01:22:07,880 --> 01:22:09,760
Speaker 2: What this dude is shout you know what, shouts of

1745
01:22:09,800 --> 01:22:12,600
Speaker 2: this gentleman because he is a weirdo and there's no

1746
01:22:12,680 --> 01:22:16,200
Speaker 2: denying it. However, he is trying to pump himself up

1747
01:22:16,240 --> 01:22:19,280
Speaker 2: through a workout and he's out there hustling. Salute to

1748
01:22:19,320 --> 01:22:19,879
Speaker 2: that gentleman.

1749
01:22:20,120 --> 01:22:22,479
Speaker 1: He fucks, Luke. And you think he's probably listening to

1750
01:22:22,479 --> 01:22:24,320
Speaker 1: like Taylor Swift or something though, that's.

1751
01:22:24,040 --> 01:22:26,240
Speaker 2: Probably this guy is a Kesha fan.

1752
01:22:27,520 --> 01:22:29,439
Speaker 1: No, come on, I'm a big time ketchup fans.

1753
01:22:29,439 --> 01:22:32,040
Speaker 2: Why don't you Kesha fucking dad?

1754
01:22:36,200 --> 01:22:40,360
Speaker 1: Sorry, Lucy, speaking of cannibal corpse, Luke. Tom Hayes at

1755
01:22:40,360 --> 01:22:45,320
Speaker 1: gingerbread Tommy on Ig send us in this meme, including you.

1756
01:22:45,439 --> 01:22:48,760
Speaker 1: Let's see the quote. Uh Annie on reception has has

1757
01:22:48,800 --> 01:22:51,360
Speaker 1: been really nice all week, but she just completely avoided

1758
01:22:51,360 --> 01:22:54,479
Speaker 1: eye contact this morning, he exclaimed. And the headline, Luke

1759
01:22:54,640 --> 01:22:58,120
Speaker 1: is a committed metal head. Where's Cannibal Corpse long sleeve

1760
01:22:58,560 --> 01:23:01,120
Speaker 1: to first casual Friday at the new office? That would

1761
01:23:01,160 --> 01:23:04,960
Speaker 1: totally be you at the at Malka headquarters if we were.

1762
01:23:04,960 --> 01:23:09,160
Speaker 2: I'm literally I'm literally satire. I'm literally satire.

1763
01:23:10,560 --> 01:23:12,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's fine, that's great.

1764
01:23:12,240 --> 01:23:13,680
Speaker 2: That is that's hilarious. All right.

1765
01:23:14,000 --> 01:23:16,160
Speaker 1: Speaking of users submissions, we got a lot of them

1766
01:23:16,200 --> 01:23:17,960
Speaker 1: this week, Luke, I've been holding them for two weeks.

1767
01:23:18,280 --> 01:23:20,559
Speaker 1: Let's see what the people put together. Here's Tim may

1768
01:23:21,080 --> 01:23:24,800
Speaker 1: At Tim Slugga. He he heard our rap discussion and

1769
01:23:24,840 --> 01:23:27,799
Speaker 1: sent in a nice Black Sheep a wolf in Sheep's

1770
01:23:27,800 --> 01:23:30,559
Speaker 1: clothing album cover, but made it morning combat centric.

1771
01:23:30,680 --> 01:23:33,000
Speaker 2: Luke, I'm down with that, right, looks like we're banging,

1772
01:23:33,040 --> 01:23:34,679
Speaker 2: but okay, otherwise it's fine.

1773
01:23:35,200 --> 01:23:38,599
Speaker 1: You know that I think you're you're uh, you're miss

1774
01:23:38,680 --> 01:23:41,280
Speaker 1: DeLong and you know the nine point five and who's

1775
01:23:41,280 --> 01:23:43,240
Speaker 1: the other guy in Black Sheep? I forgot all right,

1776
01:23:43,760 --> 01:23:48,120
Speaker 1: Prez right dres dress of the Black Sheep. Sorry, okay,

1777
01:23:48,160 --> 01:23:50,320
Speaker 1: thank you that we sound old and white. Let's move on.

1778
01:23:50,760 --> 01:23:54,720
Speaker 1: At Square Punch Circle on Instagram is an artist Luke,

1779
01:23:54,760 --> 01:23:58,120
Speaker 1: and he reconstructed you running out of that wah wah

1780
01:23:58,160 --> 01:24:00,240
Speaker 1: after stealing the grinder, Luke, you don't what they.

1781
01:24:00,600 --> 01:24:03,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's missing another sub back of Dorito's two

1782
01:24:03,840 --> 01:24:05,799
Speaker 2: snickers and the pack is bigger.

1783
01:24:08,600 --> 01:24:10,840
Speaker 1: Oh. Let's go over to our friend at eight bit

1784
01:24:11,000 --> 01:24:15,080
Speaker 1: Imaginations on Instagram, he created a Morning Combat comic book

1785
01:24:15,120 --> 01:24:21,320
Speaker 1: cover and BC boy, well done, well done there, right.

1786
01:24:21,439 --> 01:24:23,240
Speaker 2: That looks pretty cool. That's nicely done.

1787
01:24:23,280 --> 01:24:26,599
Speaker 1: That looks like pre kids, Luke. Right, powerlifting, Luke. Remember

1788
01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:27,960
Speaker 1: that year you got jack Luke?

1789
01:24:28,240 --> 01:24:29,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm trying to get back.

1790
01:24:31,040 --> 01:24:33,040
Speaker 1: It was all creatine and waterweight though. But you know

1791
01:24:33,080 --> 01:24:34,720
Speaker 1: that's fine. That's fine. You can do what you have

1792
01:24:34,760 --> 01:24:38,320
Speaker 1: to do. MK tip on tip. How about this poster

1793
01:24:38,479 --> 01:24:42,160
Speaker 1: art from Scott Marshall at Anya Burrie. We've seen work

1794
01:24:42,200 --> 01:24:46,360
Speaker 1: from this guy before Morning Combat Extended Edition.

1795
01:24:46,520 --> 01:24:46,760
Speaker 2: Luke.

1796
01:24:46,800 --> 01:24:49,240
Speaker 1: If you know what we're talking about here, right, this

1797
01:24:49,240 --> 01:24:52,080
Speaker 1: could happen this week in the bubble. You never know, dude.

1798
01:24:52,080 --> 01:24:53,360
Speaker 2: This is uncomfortable.

1799
01:24:53,960 --> 01:24:56,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, at best, at best, but well done there and

1800
01:24:57,160 --> 01:25:00,160
Speaker 1: at Greg All thirty one and that's Greg with Quo

1801
01:25:00,240 --> 01:25:03,400
Speaker 1: G's on Instagram. Luke, he had the broken Morning Combat

1802
01:25:03,479 --> 01:25:05,439
Speaker 1: mug that he got in the mail last week, so

1803
01:25:05,479 --> 01:25:08,040
Speaker 1: he decided to pose with it while wearing a broke

1804
01:25:08,200 --> 01:25:13,000
Speaker 1: kinnie and watching our show on his TV. You're done

1805
01:25:13,000 --> 01:25:14,320
Speaker 1: with Greg All here? Or what?

1806
01:25:14,479 --> 01:25:17,240
Speaker 2: You think this guy's got a girlfriend?

1807
01:25:18,680 --> 01:25:20,840
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, I think I don't. Look he's got tats.

1808
01:25:20,880 --> 01:25:23,160
Speaker 1: He kind of looks like he hunts on the weekends. There. Look,

1809
01:25:23,160 --> 01:25:25,400
Speaker 1: there are states in this union where that's you know,

1810
01:25:25,640 --> 01:25:27,760
Speaker 1: that'll get it done, Luke, That right there will get it.

1811
01:25:27,760 --> 01:25:30,680
Speaker 2: Done right, you know what? He is committed to the bit.

1812
01:25:30,920 --> 01:25:31,960
Speaker 2: God bless this gentleman.

1813
01:25:33,040 --> 01:25:36,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, we got one more from d Piercy's comics. He

1814
01:25:36,760 --> 01:25:41,720
Speaker 1: sent in an animated drawing of you, Luke. Wow, that

1815
01:25:41,840 --> 01:25:44,960
Speaker 1: looks underslept and angry. That that's pretty that's pretty much

1816
01:25:45,000 --> 01:25:45,479
Speaker 1: right on right.

1817
01:25:45,920 --> 01:25:52,519
Speaker 2: Did he get this from the van Go Museum in Amsterdam? Luke?

1818
01:25:52,840 --> 01:25:54,760
Speaker 1: Is that art? Are we are? Yeah?

1819
01:25:54,800 --> 01:25:59,360
Speaker 2: I'm Luke, I'm a I'm a I'm a microscopically uh

1820
01:26:00,760 --> 01:26:03,160
Speaker 2: as talented van Go. That's that's who I am.

1821
01:26:03,200 --> 01:26:05,280
Speaker 1: He made it with his etches sketch while sitting on

1822
01:26:05,320 --> 01:26:07,400
Speaker 1: the toilet. All right here, Luke, let's let's check it

1823
01:26:07,400 --> 01:26:09,400
Speaker 1: on a Boila this week. We actually picked this up

1824
01:26:09,680 --> 01:26:13,720
Speaker 1: off the camera on the UH on the dresser of

1825
01:26:13,760 --> 01:26:16,240
Speaker 1: your daughter's room. A Boila helping you guys out so

1826
01:26:16,320 --> 01:26:18,040
Speaker 1: mister and missus Luke Thomas can go on a date.

1827
01:26:18,080 --> 01:26:22,400
Speaker 1: This passage, she's putting the baby into the uh. The

1828
01:26:22,479 --> 01:26:29,439
Speaker 1: crab here the step ladder. Look, she's eliminated from the

1829
01:26:29,479 --> 01:26:34,720
Speaker 1: royal rumble. That's it. Wow, yeah, okay, the baby did

1830
01:26:34,720 --> 01:26:35,280
Speaker 1: not recover.

1831
01:26:35,439 --> 01:26:38,880
Speaker 2: Luke, that is amazing.

1832
01:26:39,439 --> 01:26:41,120
Speaker 1: It kind of looks like you're a boiler. I like that.

1833
01:26:41,160 --> 01:26:43,800
Speaker 2: All right, I know what my looks like.

1834
01:26:45,360 --> 01:26:47,280
Speaker 1: You know what, if I come to DC, I'll do

1835
01:26:47,320 --> 01:26:49,479
Speaker 1: a podcast with a Boila. We'll do it in Spanglish.

1836
01:26:49,520 --> 01:26:52,439
Speaker 1: Would be fantastic. Our street fight of the week, Luke,

1837
01:26:52,520 --> 01:26:55,519
Speaker 1: let's go down to Miami Beach between on Collins Avenue

1838
01:26:55,560 --> 01:26:59,080
Speaker 1: between ninth and tenth Street. Oh god, oh god, look

1839
01:26:59,240 --> 01:27:00,960
Speaker 1: this is good. I don't know if we're fing or

1840
01:27:00,960 --> 01:27:04,920
Speaker 1: we're fighting, but I'm in for both. Luke, this is great. Wow,

1841
01:27:06,040 --> 01:27:08,120
Speaker 1: that's a topless chick right there. You know who said that?

1842
01:27:08,200 --> 01:27:10,559
Speaker 1: You know who filmed this, Billy Corbyn of the uh

1843
01:27:10,720 --> 01:27:12,320
Speaker 1: dot of five thousand doc, you know that guy?

1844
01:27:12,400 --> 01:27:17,519
Speaker 2: Right. Wow, I'm amazed. I thought for sure the old

1845
01:27:17,520 --> 01:27:19,880
Speaker 2: Thong defunk Thong Thong was gonna get wallaped. She did

1846
01:27:19,880 --> 01:27:21,560
Speaker 2: a number on her huh.

1847
01:27:21,160 --> 01:27:23,920
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, so to the lady with the free breasts.

1848
01:27:24,160 --> 01:27:26,280
Speaker 1: She she did a number on that lead. She pulled

1849
01:27:26,280 --> 01:27:27,679
Speaker 1: off her wig. I don't know if you can see

1850
01:27:27,720 --> 01:27:31,280
Speaker 1: that now. And now she's like, oh you you guys

1851
01:27:31,280 --> 01:27:34,519
Speaker 1: over here want some of this? Oh what? Oh? And

1852
01:27:34,560 --> 01:27:37,000
Speaker 1: now here? Here's her problem though, Now she's getting served. Okay,

1853
01:27:37,120 --> 01:27:41,360
Speaker 1: all right, yeah, you know Colby can beat Maya, but

1854
01:27:41,400 --> 01:27:43,080
Speaker 1: he goes in there against usman, he's in trouble. You

1855
01:27:43,080 --> 01:27:44,080
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Luke.

1856
01:27:44,320 --> 01:27:46,360
Speaker 2: What happens there? You gotta know your limits, you know?

1857
01:27:46,680 --> 01:27:50,439
Speaker 1: Yeah? This is wow. Okay, Matsi's just walking down the street.

1858
01:27:50,479 --> 01:27:51,599
Speaker 1: I mean, that's Miami, Luke.

1859
01:27:51,640 --> 01:27:54,519
Speaker 2: In fact, you know, actually she took the fight to

1860
01:27:54,600 --> 01:28:01,120
Speaker 2: everybody I got. I'm gonna say, I'm pretty impressed. Wow,

1861
01:28:01,160 --> 01:28:01,920
Speaker 2: I'm amazed.

1862
01:28:02,920 --> 01:28:05,680
Speaker 1: But Luke, that's that's Miami on a Monday morning. Let's

1863
01:28:05,760 --> 01:28:08,760
Speaker 1: check out Miami on a Tuesday night. It don't get

1864
01:28:08,800 --> 01:28:10,599
Speaker 1: any weirder. But I don't know if you've been down there, Luke,

1865
01:28:10,600 --> 01:28:12,600
Speaker 1: it's not a regular place. Check out what's going on

1866
01:28:12,640 --> 01:28:18,040
Speaker 1: in the middle of traffic right here? Luke? Yeah? Right, Wow, Luke,

1867
01:28:18,160 --> 01:28:21,120
Speaker 1: that girl will dance for for money for Hanks.

1868
01:28:21,640 --> 01:28:22,799
Speaker 2: Is she gonna start peeing?

1869
01:28:23,400 --> 01:28:25,160
Speaker 1: Look at these guys making it rain in the middle

1870
01:28:25,200 --> 01:28:26,439
Speaker 1: of traffic. Look, this is great.

1871
01:28:26,479 --> 01:28:28,800
Speaker 2: We gotta move there, right, yeah, we gotta take We

1872
01:28:28,840 --> 01:28:31,320
Speaker 2: gotta be like Dan Levatar and take the show to Miami.

1873
01:28:31,400 --> 01:28:34,240
Speaker 1: What do we do mk Miami nights? That would be great, right,

1874
01:28:34,360 --> 01:28:36,920
Speaker 1: rather than the damn mohegan bubble. All right? Uh, Luke,

1875
01:28:36,920 --> 01:28:38,600
Speaker 1: we got a couple more for you this week in

1876
01:28:38,680 --> 01:28:41,599
Speaker 1: Corona airplane etiquette. I thought you would like this.

1877
01:28:45,080 --> 01:28:58,919
Speaker 2: I hope these two get Corona filthy swine Sara though pigs.

1878
01:29:00,200 --> 01:29:04,479
Speaker 2: All right, all right, could you imagine the hubrisk between

1879
01:29:04,520 --> 01:29:04,920
Speaker 2: these two.

1880
01:29:06,439 --> 01:29:09,040
Speaker 1: We're gonna close with this, Luke. This is the biggest

1881
01:29:09,040 --> 01:29:11,040
Speaker 1: week in our show's history. So I just wanted to

1882
01:29:11,040 --> 01:29:14,000
Speaker 1: send it as always another sugar night, like offering out

1883
01:29:14,000 --> 01:29:16,760
Speaker 1: to all you people out there. If you watch other shows, Look,

1884
01:29:16,760 --> 01:29:19,320
Speaker 1: you're wasting your time. This is what we do on MK.

1885
01:29:19,640 --> 01:29:22,000
Speaker 1: And that's you out there if you ain't watching us. Okay,

1886
01:29:22,000 --> 01:29:25,200
Speaker 1: we don't need you, we don't watch you. Take that. Okay,

1887
01:29:25,439 --> 01:29:28,680
Speaker 1: hold this, as Luke would say, Okay, right there, I

1888
01:29:28,680 --> 01:29:30,719
Speaker 1: don't care what you know, who you think you watch.

1889
01:29:30,760 --> 01:29:33,840
Speaker 1: It's MK. It's all day. It's no other way. Okay,

1890
01:29:33,840 --> 01:29:35,840
Speaker 1: this is it. This is the one. This is the

1891
01:29:35,880 --> 01:29:36,800
Speaker 1: stuff right here. Okay.

1892
01:29:37,040 --> 01:29:38,760
Speaker 2: Did I tell you the one time I threw water

1893
01:29:38,800 --> 01:29:41,240
Speaker 2: balloons in college at these people walking by? And I

1894
01:29:41,240 --> 01:29:44,680
Speaker 2: felt really bad about it. This I was in the

1895
01:29:44,720 --> 01:29:47,120
Speaker 2: third floor, which is the highest floor for this particular dorm,

1896
01:29:47,720 --> 01:29:50,200
Speaker 2: and uh, I was at this window and you couldn't

1897
01:29:50,200 --> 01:29:52,559
Speaker 2: I couldn't quite throw it this way, so I had

1898
01:29:52,560 --> 01:29:54,160
Speaker 2: to kind of like I had to flee flick. I

1899
01:29:54,200 --> 01:29:55,920
Speaker 2: had to kind of hit them with the option, you know.

1900
01:29:56,960 --> 01:29:59,400
Speaker 2: And I wasn't really paying attention to who I was throwing,

1901
01:30:00,200 --> 01:30:02,960
Speaker 2: because it's one to hit somebody as they were walking by.

1902
01:30:03,000 --> 01:30:05,800
Speaker 2: And uh, this girl had this bag from chick fil A.

1903
01:30:05,880 --> 01:30:07,400
Speaker 2: There's a chick fil A in the uh in the

1904
01:30:07,400 --> 01:30:09,400
Speaker 2: dining hall, but the key was the chick fil A

1905
01:30:09,479 --> 01:30:11,720
Speaker 2: had just opened, So like I knew if you had

1906
01:30:11,720 --> 01:30:14,320
Speaker 2: gone there and you had gotten food, you've probably waited

1907
01:30:14,360 --> 01:30:16,559
Speaker 2: a long time to get it. And she comes and

1908
01:30:16,600 --> 01:30:18,160
Speaker 2: I hit her with the old option, you know what

1909
01:30:18,200 --> 01:30:21,679
Speaker 2: I'm saying, and uh, it hit right through her bag

1910
01:30:21,840 --> 01:30:24,160
Speaker 2: and all of her food hit the ground and then

1911
01:30:24,320 --> 01:30:28,040
Speaker 2: just spread out with the water balloon like drenching it

1912
01:30:28,120 --> 01:30:31,679
Speaker 2: like cheese covering nachos or something. And she just sat

1913
01:30:31,720 --> 01:30:34,040
Speaker 2: there and looked at it and started to cry. I

1914
01:30:34,080 --> 01:30:35,760
Speaker 2: felt I felt really bad about it.

1915
01:30:36,800 --> 01:30:39,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's bad. Like that's not good. That's yeah,

1916
01:30:39,760 --> 01:30:40,240
Speaker 1: all right, I.

1917
01:30:40,200 --> 01:30:41,680
Speaker 2: Apologize that, and I went and got her Chick fil

1918
01:30:41,720 --> 01:30:43,280
Speaker 2: A the next day. But you know it's different.

1919
01:30:43,280 --> 01:30:44,720
Speaker 1: Oh wow, did you end up slating with her?

1920
01:30:45,120 --> 01:30:47,120
Speaker 2: No? No, no, she's not my type. But I felt bad.

1921
01:30:48,320 --> 01:30:50,360
Speaker 1: Look in college, there's no such thing as types.

1922
01:30:50,560 --> 01:30:54,599
Speaker 2: It's just you know, right, Uh depends how ugly they are. BC.

1923
01:30:55,880 --> 01:30:58,040
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, hey have you seen all that ish

1924
01:30:58,080 --> 01:30:59,600
Speaker 1: there was? Luke Cope enjoyed that.

1925
01:30:59,680 --> 01:31:02,800
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, very good with that in mind, BC,

1926
01:31:02,920 --> 01:31:04,800
Speaker 2: it is time now for odds and ends, sir, What

1927
01:31:04,840 --> 01:31:05,519
Speaker 2: do you have for us?

1928
01:31:06,560 --> 01:31:08,479
Speaker 1: I got two quick ones here over the weekend on

1929
01:31:08,520 --> 01:31:11,720
Speaker 1: that UFC card how shout to Mackenzie Dern. She's a

1930
01:31:11,760 --> 01:31:13,000
Speaker 1: mother and she's a tough one.

1931
01:31:13,080 --> 01:31:13,280
Speaker 2: Luke.

1932
01:31:13,520 --> 01:31:15,679
Speaker 1: I know she went in there against what's her name

1933
01:31:16,120 --> 01:31:19,719
Speaker 1: with the you know, random Marcos, random Marcos who's now

1934
01:31:19,760 --> 01:31:22,519
Speaker 1: ten ten and one by the way, But I saw

1935
01:31:22,680 --> 01:31:25,479
Speaker 1: a dedication this time from Mackenzie Dern to like fitness

1936
01:31:25,479 --> 01:31:28,880
Speaker 1: and making weight and it was a Mackenzie Durned type fight. Look,

1937
01:31:28,920 --> 01:31:32,080
Speaker 1: Marcos took guard and didn't you know, and she jumped

1938
01:31:32,080 --> 01:31:33,760
Speaker 1: into the deep end of the pool. She shouldn't have

1939
01:31:33,760 --> 01:31:36,840
Speaker 1: been there. But Luke, I'm now seeing a much more

1940
01:31:36,880 --> 01:31:41,200
Speaker 1: dedicated Mackenzie Durn post pregnancy, if you will, who is

1941
01:31:41,280 --> 01:31:43,840
Speaker 1: starting to really look like a legit contender. And she'd

1942
01:31:43,880 --> 01:31:46,559
Speaker 1: been sort of an attraction for a little bit. We

1943
01:31:46,640 --> 01:31:49,120
Speaker 1: know she's very skilled, but I think she's starting to

1944
01:31:49,120 --> 01:31:51,519
Speaker 1: put it together and it's almost time, right She's gonna

1945
01:31:51,520 --> 01:31:53,479
Speaker 1: need a few more wins. This is a killer division,

1946
01:31:53,520 --> 01:31:56,200
Speaker 1: as we know, but it's almost time to start thinking

1947
01:31:56,240 --> 01:31:59,599
Speaker 1: about what she might look like against those upper tier

1948
01:31:59,760 --> 01:32:01,960
Speaker 1: lead and we know this division is full of them. Luke,

1949
01:32:02,200 --> 01:32:05,400
Speaker 1: are you seeing right now somebody that can contend with

1950
01:32:05,520 --> 01:32:08,760
Speaker 1: the Rose Nama units is with the Wayley jongs with

1951
01:32:08,800 --> 01:32:11,160
Speaker 1: the Joannas in terms of that, because look, I'm on

1952
01:32:11,240 --> 01:32:13,080
Speaker 1: the ground. She got a big right hand, but on

1953
01:32:13,120 --> 01:32:16,760
Speaker 1: the ground few can match that strength in that technique.

1954
01:32:17,439 --> 01:32:19,280
Speaker 2: No, I'm not. I mean she got she went to

1955
01:32:19,320 --> 01:32:22,639
Speaker 2: the ground by slipping on a kick and then random Marcos,

1956
01:32:23,280 --> 01:32:25,479
Speaker 2: for reasons that will remain unclear to me for the

1957
01:32:25,479 --> 01:32:27,840
Speaker 2: rest of my life, decided to engage her by going

1958
01:32:27,880 --> 01:32:32,360
Speaker 2: to the ground with her, a all time galactically bad

1959
01:32:32,640 --> 01:32:36,719
Speaker 2: call in fight sports. So yeah, Mackenzie durn I watched

1960
01:32:36,720 --> 01:32:41,280
Speaker 2: her judicial career. She's as good as advertised in that

1961
01:32:41,479 --> 01:32:43,400
Speaker 2: I you know, the thing for me I'll give you

1962
01:32:43,520 --> 01:32:45,799
Speaker 2: was that she looked at be a tremendous physical condition

1963
01:32:46,320 --> 01:32:48,400
Speaker 2: and you're right, she does seem to have a renewed focus.

1964
01:32:48,720 --> 01:32:50,840
Speaker 2: But this fight doesn't tell us anything other than what

1965
01:32:50,840 --> 01:32:54,080
Speaker 2: we already knew, other than you know, she does appear

1966
01:32:54,120 --> 01:32:56,080
Speaker 2: to be training hard and perhaps the right way. So

1967
01:32:56,400 --> 01:32:56,920
Speaker 2: still a lot of.

1968
01:32:56,960 --> 01:32:59,599
Speaker 1: Questions such a physical specimen though, and I know that,

1969
01:32:59,640 --> 01:33:01,599
Speaker 1: like you know, they made a rousy comparison on there,

1970
01:33:01,600 --> 01:33:04,880
Speaker 1: and there's certainly some levels of that, Luke. But she's

1971
01:33:05,080 --> 01:33:07,400
Speaker 1: big and strong for the weight class and that's gonna

1972
01:33:07,400 --> 01:33:08,960
Speaker 1: make I know she doesn't have the hands.

1973
01:33:09,000 --> 01:33:12,160
Speaker 2: Actually those I actual don't think she's that strong in

1974
01:33:12,160 --> 01:33:14,400
Speaker 2: the cliffs. She's been muscled around even by the Ashley

1975
01:33:14,479 --> 01:33:17,720
Speaker 2: Yoder types technique.

1976
01:33:18,360 --> 01:33:20,679
Speaker 1: All right, all right, we'll see. I know you hate

1977
01:33:20,680 --> 01:33:22,120
Speaker 1: women and birth, but we'll see.

1978
01:33:22,200 --> 01:33:22,400
Speaker 2: Luke.

1979
01:33:23,080 --> 01:33:25,679
Speaker 1: I also wanted to shout out, I didn't like this, Luke,

1980
01:33:25,680 --> 01:33:29,200
Speaker 1: can we play that video? Jay ESPN's MMA account put

1981
01:33:29,240 --> 01:33:32,479
Speaker 1: this out. This was yesterday. I believe Israel Lota Sonia

1982
01:33:32,520 --> 01:33:35,280
Speaker 1: has touched down and so has Polo Costa in Abu

1983
01:33:35,360 --> 01:33:37,640
Speaker 1: Dhabi ahead of this weekend's title fight and Luke, they

1984
01:33:37,680 --> 01:33:41,320
Speaker 1: went face to face and there was absolutely no protection

1985
01:33:41,520 --> 01:33:43,559
Speaker 1: of k fabe here. And I know what you're gonna say,

1986
01:33:43,640 --> 01:33:47,439
Speaker 1: pro wrestling fanboy, shut the heck up, Luke. I didn't

1987
01:33:47,479 --> 01:33:50,200
Speaker 1: expect them to throw hands, but the volume of this

1988
01:33:50,360 --> 01:33:54,120
Speaker 1: video is very chummy. Hey buddy, you know and look

1989
01:33:54,120 --> 01:33:56,760
Speaker 1: and I understand there's there's bushido, there's respect. These guys

1990
01:33:56,760 --> 01:33:59,200
Speaker 1: aren't gonna, you know, scratch each other's eyeballs out in

1991
01:33:59,240 --> 01:34:02,920
Speaker 1: the parking. But the promotion has been well handled up

1992
01:34:02,920 --> 01:34:05,200
Speaker 1: to this point. The Countdown show came out, by the way,

1993
01:34:05,280 --> 01:34:07,479
Speaker 1: which has you and I our own voice featured in

1994
01:34:07,479 --> 01:34:09,639
Speaker 1: it for Morning Combat, So shout out to those folks.

1995
01:34:09,680 --> 01:34:12,040
Speaker 1: But it's been built upon the idea that they don't

1996
01:34:12,120 --> 01:34:14,439
Speaker 1: like each other. That you know, Costa wanted to run

1997
01:34:14,479 --> 01:34:17,160
Speaker 1: into the cage after the Romero fight. They're supposed to

1998
01:34:17,160 --> 01:34:19,479
Speaker 1: hate each other, Luke, I want to believe that they

1999
01:34:19,479 --> 01:34:21,679
Speaker 1: hate each other. I don't like when this stuff sees

2000
01:34:21,720 --> 01:34:23,080
Speaker 1: the light of to day. Maybe he's just a pro

2001
01:34:23,080 --> 01:34:25,479
Speaker 1: wrestling fan in me. I didn't enjoy that, Luke.

2002
01:34:25,600 --> 01:34:30,759
Speaker 2: You care, No, I didn't care for two fucking seconds

2003
01:34:30,920 --> 01:34:31,920
Speaker 2: at all, not even the world.

2004
01:34:32,400 --> 01:34:35,160
Speaker 1: Well all right, look it's still real to me, all right,

2005
01:34:35,240 --> 01:34:36,240
Speaker 1: damn it, it is still Yeah.

2006
01:34:36,479 --> 01:34:38,080
Speaker 2: I mean, this is you know, this is you being

2007
01:34:38,160 --> 01:34:42,680
Speaker 2: like getting super invested in some pro wrestling storyline. I mean,

2008
01:34:43,320 --> 01:34:45,439
Speaker 2: does this in any way change how you think the

2009
01:34:45,479 --> 01:34:46,080
Speaker 2: fight might go?

2010
01:34:46,200 --> 01:34:49,760
Speaker 1: I mean, not necessarily, but don't you want to believe that?

2011
01:34:49,800 --> 01:34:52,200
Speaker 1: I mean I interviewed you know is He last week

2012
01:34:52,240 --> 01:34:54,760
Speaker 1: and he's calling him a steroid head, you know, cause

2013
01:34:54,760 --> 01:34:57,840
Speaker 1: he's ripping him left and right, saying our energies don't match.

2014
01:34:58,040 --> 01:35:00,479
Speaker 1: I mean, he's given you the quotes you want. So

2015
01:35:00,520 --> 01:35:02,599
Speaker 1: when they see each other, we're supposed to. We're supposed

2016
01:35:02,640 --> 01:35:05,000
Speaker 1: to brow out. Look, you've got some enemies in this

2017
01:35:05,200 --> 01:35:07,920
Speaker 1: MMA media game. Do I expect you and your enemies

2018
01:35:07,960 --> 01:35:09,519
Speaker 1: to hug at a fight?

2019
01:35:09,680 --> 01:35:14,599
Speaker 2: No, Brob, they didn't really alive. They didn't really hug.

2020
01:35:14,720 --> 01:35:17,679
Speaker 2: And more to the point, Uh yeah, I've got plenty

2021
01:35:17,720 --> 01:35:19,960
Speaker 2: people I fucking can't stand. But you know, I'm i

2022
01:35:20,000 --> 01:35:21,559
Speaker 2: gonna go out of my way to have a conflict

2023
01:35:21,600 --> 01:35:25,080
Speaker 2: with them during a pandemic, you know, probably not. Probably,

2024
01:35:25,080 --> 01:35:26,640
Speaker 2: I'm going to just let it rock and you know,

2025
01:35:27,040 --> 01:35:28,640
Speaker 2: be cordial to the extent that I need to be.

2026
01:35:28,760 --> 01:35:29,120
Speaker 2: That's it.

2027
01:35:30,320 --> 01:35:32,599
Speaker 1: Hey, Luke, you gotta have to be careful of one

2028
01:35:32,640 --> 01:35:34,479
Speaker 1: thing in the bubble this week if you plan on

2029
01:35:34,600 --> 01:35:39,120
Speaker 1: podcasting with me in the evening, got some beers cracked, right,

2030
01:35:40,400 --> 01:35:42,720
Speaker 1: I might It might just be the time for me

2031
01:35:42,800 --> 01:35:44,800
Speaker 1: to get that rear naked in. And I know what

2032
01:35:44,920 --> 01:35:47,320
Speaker 1: your mind is telling you, right, You know your mind's

2033
01:35:47,320 --> 01:35:50,120
Speaker 1: telling you this guy B sees the washed dad. He's

2034
01:35:50,200 --> 01:35:53,320
Speaker 1: you know, he doesn't have the proper Jesus experience that

2035
01:35:53,439 --> 01:35:56,519
Speaker 1: I do. I'm a tough guy who beat people down

2036
01:35:56,600 --> 01:35:59,400
Speaker 1: as a balancer all this stuff, Luke, do you know

2037
01:35:59,439 --> 01:36:02,040
Speaker 1: how bad it would be for your brand. Speaking of

2038
01:36:02,120 --> 01:36:04,759
Speaker 1: k fabe for me to make you tap on camera?

2039
01:36:04,800 --> 01:36:05,439
Speaker 1: Do you have any.

2040
01:36:05,360 --> 01:36:09,280
Speaker 2: Idea anytime you want a shot at the title, you

2041
01:36:09,400 --> 01:36:09,840
Speaker 2: let me know.

2042
01:36:11,120 --> 01:36:12,960
Speaker 1: All right. I'm just saying I'm not trying to go

2043
01:36:13,000 --> 01:36:14,760
Speaker 1: one on one against you. But you know, if I

2044
01:36:14,800 --> 01:36:17,800
Speaker 1: sliped that thing in, Luke, it is tapper napp.

2045
01:36:17,640 --> 01:36:19,639
Speaker 2: Just just so you don't even know how to slip

2046
01:36:19,640 --> 01:36:19,880
Speaker 2: it in.

2047
01:36:22,320 --> 01:36:26,160
Speaker 1: Why I have father children. Look all right, let's three

2048
01:36:26,200 --> 01:36:30,360
Speaker 1: needles needles. Well, yeah, that's true, that's true.

2049
01:36:30,400 --> 01:36:32,720
Speaker 2: All right, all right, from my odds and ends, we'll

2050
01:36:32,720 --> 01:36:34,720
Speaker 2: stay with Israel. Lot of sign ye. Dinna White was

2051
01:36:34,720 --> 01:36:38,479
Speaker 2: asked recently about the entrances because against Robert Whitaker, he

2052
01:36:38,520 --> 01:36:42,000
Speaker 2: had the whole dance thing. Against Joel Romero, he had

2053
01:36:42,040 --> 01:36:43,800
Speaker 2: this sort of I don't know what you call this,

2054
01:36:43,800 --> 01:36:50,240
Speaker 2: more traditional Nigerian vibe, sort of low key, but clearly

2055
01:36:50,240 --> 01:36:51,240
Speaker 2: there was a little bit of a little bit of

2056
01:36:51,320 --> 01:36:53,639
Speaker 2: theatrics to it, and Dinna Why was basically saying, yeah,

2057
01:36:53,680 --> 01:36:55,120
Speaker 2: I want less of that. I want it to be

2058
01:36:55,240 --> 01:36:58,439
Speaker 2: as basic as possible, as bare bones as possible, to

2059
01:36:58,479 --> 01:37:00,720
Speaker 2: which I thought, Okay, I get it. Because to the

2060
01:37:00,720 --> 01:37:03,479
Speaker 2: extent that fighters are just anonymized. You can sub them in,

2061
01:37:03,520 --> 01:37:06,160
Speaker 2: some of them out, and hey, the brand is the product.

2062
01:37:06,760 --> 01:37:10,160
Speaker 2: On the other hand, it's like, holy smokes, do you

2063
01:37:10,320 --> 01:37:12,479
Speaker 2: actually do that for a business reason or do you

2064
01:37:12,560 --> 01:37:14,799
Speaker 2: just do it because you don't like it? The business

2065
01:37:14,840 --> 01:37:18,599
Speaker 2: reason I don't agree with. But I understand you mean

2066
01:37:18,680 --> 01:37:20,120
Speaker 2: to tell me you might be doing this because you

2067
01:37:20,240 --> 01:37:25,719
Speaker 2: actually don't like it. BC. I was shocked. Who doesn't

2068
01:37:25,880 --> 01:37:26,800
Speaker 2: like that kind of thing?

2069
01:37:28,439 --> 01:37:31,439
Speaker 1: Like Coleby going off on right wing politics and then

2070
01:37:31,640 --> 01:37:33,639
Speaker 1: you know, being okay with it. It's like, oh, convenient,

2071
01:37:33,680 --> 01:37:35,720
Speaker 1: I know what this looks like. The optics look like.

2072
01:37:35,880 --> 01:37:36,080
Speaker 1: You know.

2073
01:37:36,360 --> 01:37:38,599
Speaker 2: No, I don't do the race thing. I didn't buy

2074
01:37:38,600 --> 01:37:40,400
Speaker 2: because I don't think he wants to do it for

2075
01:37:40,560 --> 01:37:43,320
Speaker 2: Connor either all that much. Maybe just to think he

2076
01:37:43,360 --> 01:37:45,640
Speaker 2: got talked into. He's been pretty clear and consistent he

2077
01:37:45,680 --> 01:37:49,040
Speaker 2: doesn't like it. I just thought he was love to it.

2078
01:37:49,040 --> 01:37:51,240
Speaker 1: It's kind of like the uniform deal, right, like you

2079
01:37:51,280 --> 01:37:53,080
Speaker 1: know they want to keep it streamline. I mean it's

2080
01:37:53,080 --> 01:37:55,040
Speaker 1: like look in the NBA, right, you got one sponsor

2081
01:37:55,080 --> 01:37:57,280
Speaker 1: on the on the shoulder, but that wasn't there for years.

2082
01:37:57,280 --> 01:38:01,040
Speaker 1: It's a very streamline. Look, I'm again not again uniform

2083
01:38:01,080 --> 01:38:04,000
Speaker 1: wise that they keep it that way. I would like

2084
01:38:04,080 --> 01:38:06,120
Speaker 1: to be them to be to the fighters, to be

2085
01:38:06,160 --> 01:38:07,560
Speaker 1: allowed to do a little you know, doesn't have to

2086
01:38:07,600 --> 01:38:10,040
Speaker 1: be pride or anything like that, but I would like

2087
01:38:10,080 --> 01:38:13,160
Speaker 1: a little bit more showmanship in there, Luke. So I'm

2088
01:38:13,200 --> 01:38:15,519
Speaker 1: against him being against that, but I don't think it's

2089
01:38:15,520 --> 01:38:16,320
Speaker 1: anything more than that.

2090
01:38:16,640 --> 01:38:18,200
Speaker 2: It's just annoying, just annoying.

2091
01:38:18,240 --> 01:38:21,080
Speaker 1: All right, Hey, can we shout out? Can we shout

2092
01:38:21,120 --> 01:38:25,439
Speaker 1: out a great friend of the program, Greg Kelly? Okay,

2093
01:38:25,960 --> 01:38:28,400
Speaker 1: number two in your score books, number one in our

2094
01:38:28,439 --> 01:38:32,200
Speaker 1: hearts from the Outcry documentary on Showtime. He was wronged.

2095
01:38:32,560 --> 01:38:37,920
Speaker 1: He is talk about perseverance and grace and just it's

2096
01:38:37,960 --> 01:38:41,240
Speaker 1: just a He's an impressive human, Luke. He just signed

2097
01:38:41,320 --> 01:38:43,400
Speaker 1: a letter of intent for a full ride to play

2098
01:38:43,400 --> 01:38:47,479
Speaker 1: football at was it Central was the Eastern Michigan Correctschigan.

2099
01:38:48,479 --> 01:38:50,679
Speaker 1: He had been looking to try to walk on at Texas.

2100
01:38:50,720 --> 01:38:53,040
Speaker 1: You know, he had been training with x NFL guys.

2101
01:38:53,200 --> 01:38:55,439
Speaker 1: Shout out to Greg Kelly. I know it's many years

2102
01:38:55,439 --> 01:38:57,920
Speaker 1: in the making, he's what twenty five, twenty six, But

2103
01:38:58,400 --> 01:39:00,800
Speaker 1: you know, however, it goes from here, right. If he's

2104
01:39:00,840 --> 01:39:04,080
Speaker 1: a star, if he's a Rudie. However, it goes from

2105
01:39:04,120 --> 01:39:06,960
Speaker 1: here to get to this point to get what he

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Speaker 1: what he lost, what he could have had, which is

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Speaker 1: just experience life, experience playing football, playing the sport he loves.

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Speaker 1: That was that was a it was a warming moment

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Speaker 1: to see that. And he cut the he cut the hair, Luke,

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Speaker 1: you see that he went in for the high and tight.

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Speaker 2: Good looks better that way.

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Speaker 1: Oh you are you are completely unmoved by this topic.

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Speaker 1: In fact, are you still holding it against me that

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Speaker 1: the legal team held up our interview for about a month.

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Speaker 2: Yes, you mean for the entire window where anyone could

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Speaker 2: have possibly cared. Yes, yes, that's im.

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Speaker 1: Look, you have misdirected hostilities. One day you'll forgive the

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Speaker 1: New York public transportation system for me being late to

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Speaker 1: the morning combat New Year's Eve drinking episode. One day

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Speaker 1: you'll forgive me see.

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Speaker 2: If I can get to the studio on time from

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Speaker 2: nine states away. You do not have an excuse to public.

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Speaker 1: Transportation the whole way. It's not you know, it's not

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Speaker 1: my fault. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it is precisely your fault, and no one else's.

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Speaker 2: With that being said, at least we got to do

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Speaker 2: that in person, and b C very I say this sincerely.

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Speaker 2: I'm excited to see you this week. I've been I've

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Speaker 2: been very much looking forward to not merely for what

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Speaker 2: it means for the show in our careers and all

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Speaker 2: the other kind of sort of grandiose stuff, but just

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Speaker 2: on a personal level. We are lucky as balls to

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Speaker 2: be able to do the show in the way that

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Speaker 2: we have been through this pandemic. But I have missed

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Speaker 2: the studio. I have missed being together in the same room.

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Speaker 2: I'm excited about the cards, yes, but I'm also excited

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Speaker 2: about just getting together again. Dude, I've missed you.

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Speaker 1: Let's do it. I'm fired up, all right, MK, all week,

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Speaker 1: all right? Check us out Wednesday, it's the showtime pay

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Speaker 1: per view press conference. Stream will be hosting Friday, the

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Speaker 1: way in Stream will be hosting, of course, the halftime

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Speaker 1: show on Saturday night's pay per view, and as Luke

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Speaker 1: mentioned in some form, pretty much every day this week,

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Speaker 1: you'll be hearing from us. Is that correct to say, Luke?

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Speaker 2: I think that's probably fair to say, in some form

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Speaker 2: or another, you'll be hearing from us. By the way,

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Speaker 2: my live chat I will do on Thursday. I don't

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Speaker 2: know exactly when. I gotta work on those details, but

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Speaker 2: we'll figure that out as well. That's gonna be a

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Speaker 2: permanent move, So being on the lookout for that. Okay,

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Speaker 2: if you want to try Showtime, you certainly can go

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Speaker 2: to showtime dot com right now and you can try

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Speaker 2: it for free for thirty days. You'll like it, you

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Speaker 2: can keep it. If not, you know, go watch something stupid.

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Speaker 2: If you want to get some of this brilliant MK

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Speaker 2: merchandise store dot show that's s h O dot com.

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Speaker 2: You can go and check that out. More of that

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Speaker 2: coming by the way, So be on the lookout for it.

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Speaker 2: And then, last but not least, we're on social media.

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Speaker 2: This channel here, Morning Combat is on Instagram as well,

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Speaker 2: same name. Give us a like there you can see

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Speaker 2: the very and we have a Twitter now BC by

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Speaker 2: the same name Morning Combat.

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Speaker 1: Follow us on Twitter. It's it starts now, folks. It's

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Speaker 1: about I mean, look, there's a weird week. We're on

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Speaker 1: the road.

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Speaker 2: This week.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna hit you up with content. We're gonna go

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Speaker 1: three episodes a week moving forward out of here at

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Speaker 1: least to start off in so many bonuses, so many surprise. Hey,

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Speaker 1: people liked our friend Rashad Evans last week. Well, well

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Speaker 1: you know, we'll see more of him in the future.

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Speaker 1: Of course. We love Chuck. We love Chuck. People like, oh,

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Speaker 1: what does this mean you guys? You guys broke up

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Speaker 1: with Chuck? No, right, right, it was. There's there's there's

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Speaker 1: technical concerns and stuff. All right, we love Chuck. Hey, Jay,

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Speaker 1: thank you for being our producer. You're not going to

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Speaker 1: the bubble this week. Jay, You're not. No, you're not.

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Speaker 2: Jay.

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Speaker 1: Jay is anti COVID testing. He believes I'm not going

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Speaker 1: to the DIA.

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Speaker 3: I will produce you from right here, just like I

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Speaker 3: always do.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Jay, all right, scrill x, thank you. Uh okay,

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Speaker 2: b C. I will see you. I guess I'll see

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Speaker 2: you tomorrow morning when we get COVID tested.

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Speaker 1: Right yeah, I mean you might see me tonight. Luke,

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Speaker 1: you know, I might, you know, cause.

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Speaker 2: You want to slide through, come through. We can do.

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Speaker 2: We can do a podcast in masks. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: We'll figure something out, all right for Brian Campbell. All

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Speaker 2: on that side of the screen. I'm Luke Thomas. Thanks

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Speaker 2: to everyone to show Time and Malca. We are on

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Speaker 2: the road after the show, all week long at the

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Speaker 2: Mohegan Sun, don't go anywhere, Stay tuned from more content,

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Speaker 2: But until then, may all of your gains be loyal