1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,600 Speaker 1: Did you know that the average American visits twenty eight 2 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: different types of doctors before they die, seventeen point six 3 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:11,720 Speaker 1: prescriptions are filled per person each year, and nineteen percent 4 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: of adult women taken antidepressant. The Financial Times was out 5 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:17,919 Speaker 1: with an article recently talking about how there's been a 6 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: dramatic rise in cancer in millennials. For men, sperm count 7 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: has decreased dramatically as infertility rises in women. So why 8 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 1: are Americans so unhealthy? What's behind it? We'll talk to 9 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:34,880 Speaker 1: a guy who has been on a mission to expose 10 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 1: big food, big pharma and how they're collaborating to kill 11 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 1: us as Americans. His name is Calli Means. He's the 12 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:46,200 Speaker 1: founder of True med. It's a company that issues prescriptions 13 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: for food and exercise, which enables tax free spending on 14 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 1: items that actually promote health, which you would think would 15 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: be the goal in all this, but it doesn't seem 16 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: to be. He's also writing a book right now with 17 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: his sister, doctor Casey Means, about food is medicine and 18 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 1: how we could be healthier as Americans. His journey on 19 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:07,320 Speaker 1: all this started because he used to be a consultant 20 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:09,759 Speaker 1: for food and pharma companies back in the day. Now 21 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:14,320 Speaker 1: he's trying to expose these practices that are killing us 22 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: and killing Americans. I think you're really going to enjoy 23 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: this conversation. It's an important one about how big food 24 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: and big pharma are killing us. CALLI means us next Well, Cally, 25 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to having this conversation. You know, we 26 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 1: were talking a little bit before we got started and 27 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:35,759 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm trying to be healthier. I did 28 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: eat Twizzlers today, so I laugh at that, but they 29 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 1: probably will kill me. But trying to work on health 30 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 1: and then that's what you do. So I think this 31 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: will be a really interesting conversation. I'm looking forward to it. 32 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 2: Oh, pumped to be here. You know, Kelly. 33 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 1: As I say that, I mean, we do have so 34 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: many Americans that are obese. You know, Americans are unhealthy. 35 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: Why are so many Americans unhealthy? 36 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, even to your initial comment, I think 37 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 2: we've been conditioned to blame ourselves, and I think the 38 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 2: medical condition is basically you know, my sister went to 39 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 2: Stanford med school and she said the first day, from 40 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 2: the first day on their train that the American patients 41 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 2: are lazy. They're gonna eat their Twizzlers. They're gonna eat 42 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:14,079 Speaker 2: their Big Max, They're gonna eat their soda, and their 43 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 2: medical system is there to pick up the rest. And obviously, 44 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 2: you know, I think as conservatives, personal accountability is really important. 45 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 2: But when you look around America right now and you 46 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 2: look at eighty percent of Americans adults overweight or obese. 47 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 2: You look at children, You look at thirty percent of 48 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 2: kids now having pre diabetes, which would have been unthinkable 49 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 2: a generation ago. You look at twenty five percent of 50 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 2: teenagers having fatty liver disease, which you only used to 51 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 2: see in elderly alcoholics not too long ago. You see 52 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 2: this condition after condition just exponentially skyrocketing. And I just 53 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 2: refuse to believe that the American people have become frankly 54 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 2: more suicidal. You know, life expecting is going down, diseases 55 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 2: are going up, or really wanting to live more miserable, 56 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 2: shorter lives. I don't think that's been as been flip 57 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 2: that switched in the American psyche in the past forty years. 58 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 2: You've really got to look at some really the two 59 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 2: largest institutions by many measures in the country, the food 60 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 2: industry and the health care industry. The health care industry 61 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:14,519 Speaker 2: is the largest and fastest growing industry in the country. 62 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 2: And yeah, I just refused to believe that the American 63 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 2: people have in the past generation, you know what, been 64 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 2: systematically have the death wish that they want to live shorter, 65 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:27,639 Speaker 2: less happy lives and be much sicker. I mean, these 66 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 2: rates of every condition you know, from heart disease, diabetes, cancer, depression, 67 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 2: you know, all these conditions which I'd argue are highly 68 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 2: tied to food have been skyrocketing, and I really think 69 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 2: it boils down. You know when you look at the institutions, 70 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 2: you know, when you really have to particularly when you 71 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 2: have all these stats skyrocketing among kids, you've got to 72 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 2: ask what the systemic triggers are. And the triggers I'm 73 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 2: seeing from my early career working for food and pharma 74 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 2: companies now trying to change the incentives is we have 75 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 2: this devil's bargains so food companies when food is cheaper 76 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 2: and more addictive. And you would expect the medical system 77 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 2: to be ringing the alarm bell about that, you know, 78 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 2: when eighty five percent of deaths in the United States 79 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 2: are tied to preventable conditions tied to food, But actually 80 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 2: the healthcare industry, as I said, has become the largest 81 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 2: and the fastest growing industry in the United States. By 82 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:27,919 Speaker 2: treating sick patients, it necessitates patients to be sicker for 83 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 2: longer periods of time to grow, and that's exactly what happens. 84 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 2: So the medical system is almost universally silent about why 85 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 2: we're getting sick, and ninety five percent of healthcare dollars 86 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 2: go towards managing conditions after we get sick. So you 87 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 2: have food almost you know, just just clearly making us sicker, 88 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 2: more infertile, more depressed, and more overweight, and you have 89 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:55,280 Speaker 2: the medical system shamefully, I would argue, standing silent. So 90 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 2: that's the dynamic I'm really trying to talk about, and 91 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 2: I actually feeling it back is easier than we think. 92 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 2: But we have to understand why everyone around us seems 93 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 2: to be getting sicker, you know. 94 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: And I joke around with it, but I do. I 95 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 1: try to practice, you know. I eate healthy like ninety 96 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 1: percent of time. I work out a lot because I do, 97 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: you know, take it serious. I want to live along 98 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 1: in healthy life. What would happen to big pharma if 99 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: we focused on what we ate and what we eat. 100 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 2: Short term this would destroy the economy. In the short term. 101 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 2: Healthcare is the most employed industry. It's twenty percent of GDP. 102 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 2: It's growing two times more than GDP, So in twenty 103 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 2: years or so, it'll be forty percent of GDP. That 104 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 2: will that will be the depth of America. Like, if 105 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 2: the American experiment falls and ceases to exist, then number 106 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 2: one reason will be because we drove ourselves bankrupt while 107 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 2: getting sicker, fout er, more depressed, and more infertile. So 108 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 2: right now, this is a huge part of the economy. 109 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 2: It's the biggest part of the economy, the inner invention 110 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 2: based healthcare system. I was recently driving in the South 111 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:03,599 Speaker 2: and there were billboard saying we're hiring nurses, no criminal 112 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 2: background check. There's just the sensatiable, appetitive growth of this industry, 113 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 2: which again from Republicans to Democrats in states, when they're 114 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:18,119 Speaker 2: opening these massive new hospitals, it is saying jobs, jobs, jobs, 115 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 2: it's medical progress. But the fact that every city in 116 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 2: the United States, the largest and most gleaming building is 117 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 2: a new childhood you know, children's hospital or children's cardiology center. 118 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 2: That's not a progress. This is a big problem. So 119 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 2: right now, pharma which I tie to the intervention based system, 120 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 2: where it's tied in where every institution that touches our 121 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 2: health makes more money when we're sick. That's an important 122 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 2: part of the economy. If we unreal that, which we 123 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 2: have to because mathematically we're going to go bankrupt, there 124 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:52,280 Speaker 2: would be big economic dislocations in the short term and 125 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 2: the long term. It would unleash human capital in this country. 126 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 2: It would solve our budget problems and on lease human capital. 127 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 2: Right now, we spend significantly more from the US budget 128 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:09,039 Speaker 2: on caring for diabetics than we do on military defense 129 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 2: and intelligence. You know, we are going to go bankrupt 130 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 2: because of this issue. So yeah, it'd be a short 131 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 2: term dislocation, but it's absolutely necessary for the long term 132 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 2: economic growth and vibrancy of the United States because as 133 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 2: you as you alluded to, there's nothing more important for 134 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 2: public policy. The first order issue in our country is 135 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 2: the happiness and health of our population. And it's almost 136 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 2: like we're scoring an own goal and subsidizing terrible food 137 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 2: that's making us sick and really just pouring gasoline on that, 138 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 2: not causing the root cost. So I think when you 139 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 2: really tie it down, this is the biggest issue we face. 140 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: Well, even when I say, you know, I try to 141 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: eat healthy, what does healthy look like? I mean, one 142 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: of the problems, at least what we you know, saw 143 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: during COVID is how much the NIH controls studies in 144 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 1: America and controls, you know, studies through the grant process 145 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: and that sort of thing. And a lot of studies 146 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 1: are funded by someone, some organization with the purpose, with 147 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: the message, with the intention of, you know, essentially pushing 148 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: propaganda on us. So when I say healthy, you know, 149 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:11,119 Speaker 1: how do you figure out what healthy actually is? Given 150 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: the dynamic of you know, all these studies that we 151 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 1: see are you know, essentially being sponsored by a company 152 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: or an individual with an agenda. 153 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 2: So let's look at doctor Faucci. Doctor Fauci was in 154 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 2: charge of overseeing autoimmune conditions, really a lot of oversiding 155 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:29,239 Speaker 2: the chronic disease management of the past forty years. During 156 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 2: that time, the percentage of Americans chronic conditions went from 157 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 2: under twenty percent to over sixty percent. Now, while he 158 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 2: funded trillions of dollars the NIH during that time on 159 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 2: research that ostensibly was to lower chronic conditions. So what 160 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 2: do we have with government agencies? The NIH is a 161 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:52,439 Speaker 2: grant making organization, So you have bureaucrats at the NAH 162 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 2: who are able to take consulting payments from pharma or 163 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:59,319 Speaker 2: if they're doing nutrition, many take consulting payments direct bribes 164 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 2: from food company and then ninety plus percent of the 165 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 2: NIH and federal budgets on health it's actually they're not 166 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 2: doing the research themselves. They're grant making, and they're they're 167 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 2: able to issue those grants to conflicted researchers. And by 168 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 2: studies from Pro Publica and of their outlets show that 169 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 2: eighty to ninety percent of all research funding, you know, 170 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 2: goes to somebody that has a conflict. So that's certainly 171 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 2: happening with pharma, where it's just a wash in pharmacy, 172 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:26,679 Speaker 2: where there's this revolving door where leaders from the NIH 173 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 2: or you know, Scott Gottlieb who led the FDA which 174 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 2: oversees pharma, went straight to the bord of Pfizer. You know, 175 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 2: this is just well established, just a cesspool. It's also 176 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 2: the case with nutrition. So food companies interestingly contribute eleven 177 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:45,079 Speaker 2: times more money to foundational and international research than the NIH, 178 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 2: and the majority of NIH funding is going to those 179 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 2: same studies they're actually able. The NIH is able to 180 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 2: contribute money to conflicted studies. So actually the most pre 181 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:59,319 Speaker 2: eminent nutrition study of the past five years, it's called 182 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 2: the Food Compass. This was millions of dollars from the NIH, 183 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:06,439 Speaker 2: released with the Nhceal and Tough Nutrition School, one of 184 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 2: the pre eminent nutrition schools. It was also funded by 185 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 2: processed food companies. And this this got some coverage and 186 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 2: talked to Jesse Waters and some others about this, but 187 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 2: this said that lucky charms is healthier than beef, and 188 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 2: hiding nutshearers was healthier than eggs. This is an NAH 189 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 2: the pre eminen nutrition study today. So that's what you get. 190 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 2: And having worked for the food companies early in my 191 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 2: career and steering really helping to actually create a strategy 192 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:39,839 Speaker 2: for research funding, I was blown away that researchers that 193 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:43,319 Speaker 2: toughts at Harvard, at Stanford, at pre eminent institutions are 194 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:48,199 Speaker 2: basically nothing more than pr tools of big food. It 195 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:52,199 Speaker 2: was just a list of Harvard professors, Tough professors, professors 196 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 2: at prominent schools. We give them millions of dollars and 197 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:59,439 Speaker 2: they'd create studies saying still to this day, leading institutions 198 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:04,319 Speaker 2: are questioning whether sugar causes obesity, you know, so that 199 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 2: that's how the game is playing. The last point i'd 200 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 2: make you know, having seen behind the kernel a little 201 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 2: bit with the food companies, is that confusion is the goal. 202 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 2: So there's been fifty thousand pure review nutrition studies in 203 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 2: just the last two years, and the goal is that 204 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:19,680 Speaker 2: you get these new studies saying, well, this is good, 205 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 2: this is bad, this is good, and it's confusion when 206 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 2: in reality, humans are the only animals that are systematically obese. 207 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 2: We're the only animals that systematic have chronic rates of diabetes, 208 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:37,719 Speaker 2: heart disease, cancer. Humans and animals we've domesticated. So if 209 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 2: you take a dog like a dog a pet, they 210 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 2: have an over fifty percent cancer rate, over fifty percent 211 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 2: depression rate, So fifty percent of dogs get cancer, okay, 212 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 2: and over fifty percent obc rate. If you measure dogs, 213 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 2: wolves in the wild have a one percent cancer rate. 214 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 2: The depression rate doesn't register, and they are not obese. 215 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 2: There's not a problem of obese drafts and lions or 216 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 2: any animal in the wild. This only happens when we 217 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 2: get the experts involved. That's the only difference between humans 218 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 2: and every literally every other animal in the world. So 219 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 2: I think we really have been misled, just as we 220 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 2: have with the COVID and the pharmaceutical policies. We've been 221 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 2: completely misled to literally question on TikTok. You know, you 222 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 2: have influencers literally questioning even whether natural food versus processed food, 223 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 2: which one is better? This is literally a debate in 224 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 2: nutrition communities. 225 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 1: Let's take a quick commercial break more with Cali on 226 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 1: the other side, what percentage of what we are told 227 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: about health and nutrition is true? 228 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 2: The food companies spend a lot of times more than 229 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:46,319 Speaker 2: ANAH and nutrition sites, and the vast for drave and 230 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 2: AHE funding goes to conflicted studies. I would treat any 231 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 2: nutrition study as a publications document for big food. You know, 232 00:12:57,080 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 2: working for big food, you know watching specifically Oke and 233 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:03,439 Speaker 2: PEPSTI the interest organization from them watching hundreds of millions 234 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 2: of dollars go to really be the backbone of nutritional 235 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 2: research from Coke and other processed food companies. I can 236 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 2: tell you it's actually illegal for companies to spend that 237 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:15,319 Speaker 2: type of money without a return. It's against their fiduciary duty. 238 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 2: These people are very smart. They're spending that for a return. 239 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 2: So I just that's this is my point, and it 240 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 2: gets to very simple. We have been I think it's 241 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:28,959 Speaker 2: actually this represents a spiritual crisis because we have actually 242 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 2: been so being down and taken away from any awe 243 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 2: or curiosity or ability or empowerment to ask questions about 244 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 2: our bodies. I mean, just think about this. You know, 245 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 2: a child is born, you go into the doctor. You 246 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 2: are a terrible parent for even asking a question about 247 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:48,679 Speaker 2: the seventy one shots that child is supposed to take 248 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 2: before the day turned six. And then you're anti science 249 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 2: if you questioned any of this dietary philosophy that's being 250 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 2: pushed on that child, as fifty percent of teenagers or 251 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 2: or abisa a wait, and parents are battered to not 252 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:04,959 Speaker 2: question the science you know, on any of this stuff 253 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 2: when kids are being fed into a to a wood chip, 254 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 2: or essentially for their health. We've been battered to trust 255 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:15,679 Speaker 2: the science when the science has completely and utterly failed us. 256 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 2: We've also been told it's complicated when every other animal 257 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 2: in the world implicitly seems to figure this stuff out. 258 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 2: So I truly would would look at the record of 259 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 2: the current nutrition and health apparatus, look at the fact 260 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 2: that the rates of every chronic condition, which lead to 261 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 2: eighty five percent of deaths in the United States and 262 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 2: eighty five percent healthcare costs, are off the charts. We've 263 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 2: been completely failed. So yeah, I mean, listen to your 264 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 2: doctor when it comes to chronic conditions. I guess, you know, 265 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 2: maybe look at a study, but they deserve no benefit 266 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 2: of the doubt. You know, you often have guests come 267 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 2: on here with the medical stuff and say, you know, 268 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 2: consult your doctor. You maybe should consult your doctor, but 269 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 2: you should not trust your doctor when it comes to preventing, 270 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 2: reversing lifestyle based squad of conditions. 271 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 1: Well, I mean I found out during COVID that doctors 272 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 1: actually don't know a whole lot. I mean, I had 273 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 1: some that tried to convince me to get the COVID vaccine, 274 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 1: and then upon pressuring them and asking additional probing questions, 275 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 1: they couldn't answer them or their answers didn't make sense. 276 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: And actually, you know, going through with getting the code, 277 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: and now I'm more suspicious of everything and about a 278 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: bit of doctor's head off who asked me if I 279 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 1: wanted to get the flu shut. So I'm suspicious of 280 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 1: everything now you'd mentioned. 281 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. 282 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 1: I mean, look, if everyone's you know, they're all liars, right. 283 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 1: You know, our government lies to us and they make 284 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 1: money off of it. And then you know, big pharma 285 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 1: makes money, and as does the food companies. As you 286 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 1: pointed out, you know, I wanted to ask you you 287 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 1: had mentioned infertility earlier, which is a bit concern particularly 288 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: you know, look, I haven't had kids yet. I want kids, 289 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: you know, I know a lot of my friends is 290 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 1: this is something that's discussed and is concerning the mill 291 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 1: sperm count has reduced significantly over the years, miscarriages have 292 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 1: gone up. 293 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 2: Why Yeah, I think this is the biggest warning sign 294 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 2: there is. And to people my face and close to be, 295 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 2: our male and female are struggling with fertility issues and 296 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 2: these just to just to hammer home that you just said, 297 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 2: this is off the charts right now. So just a 298 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 2: high level, our bodies, our core evolutionary functions are really 299 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 2: like shutting down. I mean, if there is not a 300 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 2: more blatant sign our bodies could send us, then male 301 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 2: sperm count down by some measures seventy percent in a generation, 302 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 2: and then PCOS, which is the leading cause of female infertility, 303 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 2: skyrocketing by some measures, twenty five percent of women experiencing it. 304 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 2: You know, our core evolutionary purpose on this earth is 305 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 2: actually like really shutting down. We are truly on a 306 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 2: trajectory of becoming an infertile population. And I think this 307 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 2: represents the dynamic of that devil's bargain. So you know, 308 00:16:56,920 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 2: we we we fundamentally through our incentive of the of 309 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 2: society right now, you know, we're much more sedentary. Only 310 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 2: twenty percent of twenty one year old males are eligible 311 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:11,439 Speaker 2: to join the military, only twenty percent, eighty percent are 312 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 2: not eligible based on their fitness. We are, you know, 313 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 2: systematically like obst RT. Eighty percent of adults are a 314 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 2: beast or overweight. We're sleeping two hours less, We're you know, 315 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 2: a sedentary lifestyle and sunless rooms. So so fundamentally like 316 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:32,120 Speaker 2: we're doing a science experiment on ourselves. And then we're 317 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 2: throwing up our hands and wondering why all these things 318 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 2: are happening, including infertility. So just take PCOS and I 319 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 2: just I would just like, I think this is a 320 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 2: very important point that it's criminal doctors don't talk about 321 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 2: PCOS is insulin resistance. PCOS is the same trigger as diabetes. 322 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 2: It literally is the same thing. The foundational trigger of 323 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 2: what causes the leading cause of infertility for women PCOS 324 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 2: is insulin resistance, which is which is UH diabetes is 325 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 2: simply a an arbitrary marker along the line of fast 326 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 2: and glucose, which is a which is an indicator of 327 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:14,640 Speaker 2: insulin resistance, which which which means ourselves are not processing 328 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:17,920 Speaker 2: UH energy correctly, which is almost entirely tied to food 329 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 2: and other metabolic habits like exercise. You can reverse this 330 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 2: almost anyone can. And what happens is you have women 331 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 2: UH not even told that, and just funneled into this 332 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:36,159 Speaker 2: highly invasive, highly intervention based UH system where you know, 333 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:40,439 Speaker 2: leading UH fertility UH doctors that I know from Harvard 334 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 2: and Stanford actually don't even fully understand the link between 335 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:51,920 Speaker 2: UH insulin resistance and UH pc us. And obviously, if 336 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 2: if patients understand how to eat healthy and and reverse 337 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:58,399 Speaker 2: the underlying cause of their infertility, that doesn't make the 338 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 2: hospitally many but obviously I V and these other very 339 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 2: invasive procedures do. So it sounds so simple, but you 340 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 2: know the way we treat our body, you know our biomarkers. 341 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 2: But but if you I just say this, and you 342 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 2: know everyone's on their own journey, but you know, your 343 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:20,120 Speaker 2: core biomarkers around blood sugar levels, cholesterol levels of things 344 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 2: you get for free, your annual checkup, really having curiosity 345 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:25,160 Speaker 2: if those are not on the right levels and how 346 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 2: to bring those down. It really is an indicator and 347 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 2: highly tied to fertility like most other conditions, but fertility 348 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:35,160 Speaker 2: highly tied. And then as far as male sperm count 349 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 2: and male fertility issues, you know, male testosterone, male sperm 350 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:43,159 Speaker 2: accounts plummeting, and you know, we kind of throw up 351 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:45,919 Speaker 2: our hands, wonder why we throw a bunch of pills 352 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:48,159 Speaker 2: and procedures and hormone therapy is at the issue. But 353 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 2: it's like, is that man exercising, is that man in 354 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:54,640 Speaker 2: the sun. Is that person eating the right amount of protein? 355 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:56,879 Speaker 2: Is that person feeling theirselves with the right things? Is 356 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 2: that person not a ton of pharmaceuticals. It's like it's 357 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 2: like we're just ignoring this. And yeah, I as a 358 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 2: as a conservative, you know, I take it to just 359 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 2: the force first order issue. This isn't the free market 360 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:10,959 Speaker 2: playing out. We're we've actually we've bastardized the free market 361 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 2: right right through pharma spending five times more than the 362 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:19,919 Speaker 2: oil industry on lobbying through a government takeover of these industries. 363 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:23,640 Speaker 2: We have a totally rigged system where we're literally our 364 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:29,120 Speaker 2: fertility is shutting down. So so that's crushing free will 365 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 2: in a way, it's crushing human capital. So the free 366 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:36,439 Speaker 2: market solution is calling this stuff out and getting on 367 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:40,640 Speaker 2: a more even playing field where we're not just funneled 368 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 2: into this innervation base. You know, people just aren't told, 369 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 2: people aren't incentivized that everything that that, that pc OS, 370 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 2: that diabetes, that heart disease, these things all result from 371 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 2: the same thing. And least if I do this one 372 00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:58,879 Speaker 2: more story. You know, I've talked about this before, but 373 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 2: a huge physis for me on this is my mom. 374 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 2: You know, abruptly in twenty twenty one got pay cred 375 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 2: of cancer and twelve days later died and it was 376 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:14,199 Speaker 2: it was It was obviously shocking and she was our 377 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 2: best friend. But in a way it really heightened this 378 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 2: mission because the oncologists at Stanford where she was dying 379 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 2: said this was unlucky her cancer. But you go back 380 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 2: forty years and she had some fertility issues. Having me, 381 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:35,120 Speaker 2: I was twelve pounds, which which is actually an indicator 382 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 2: of metabolic dysfunction that she probably you know, had predestational diabetes. Olho. 383 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:43,119 Speaker 2: That's fine. She had high cholesterol, took a stant and 384 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:45,439 Speaker 2: high blood sugar, took that form, and she had all 385 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 2: of these conditions, high blood pressure. Took a pill for that. 386 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 2: So she was on five pills by the time she 387 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,399 Speaker 2: was seventy. Oh that's normal eighty percent you know, or 388 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 2: excuse me, forty percent of people your age on a 389 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 2: stat No problem. It was all these rights of passages, 390 00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 2: all these siloed issues, you know, not ringing the all 391 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 2: arm bell forty years ago when I was born large, 392 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 2: when she had to stationial diabetes, when she had fertility issues, 393 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 2: that could be a warning sign, that could be actually 394 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 2: a gift that you actually have some underlying metabolic dysfunction 395 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 2: that will eventually lead to something more serious later. But no, 396 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 2: it was. It was an isolated pill masking the issue 397 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:25,360 Speaker 2: each time, and then oh tough break when when when 398 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 2: she ends up dying. Cancer isn't random. Alzheimer's is now 399 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 2: called type three diabetes. It's so tied to blood sugar, 400 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:38,159 Speaker 2: just regulation what we're eating. If you have stable blood sugar, 401 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:42,199 Speaker 2: which I really believe is a barometer on on your 402 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 2: diet and lifestyle and is very under control and can 403 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 2: be reversed in a matter of months with the right 404 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 2: you know, with the right interventions, you are not going 405 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,399 Speaker 2: to die of covid, Like you are not going to 406 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 2: get Alzheimer's, you have a you by definition aren't going 407 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 2: to get diabetes. You have almost a zero percent chance 408 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:03,680 Speaker 2: of getting heart disease, and just go down the list. 409 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 2: The fact that our medical leaders aren't saying this like 410 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:11,119 Speaker 2: in Unison, the fact that ninety five percent of the 411 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,679 Speaker 2: people that make our nutrition guidelines are directly paid by 412 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 2: food companies. The fact that doctor Fauci was only talking 413 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 2: about a marginal pharmaceutical solution instead of the fact that 414 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 2: COVID only killed metabolic and healthy people like this is 415 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 2: a scandal, and it's because the largest industry in the 416 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 2: country actually profits from the fact that our food system 417 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 2: has been totally totally corrupted. 418 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:33,119 Speaker 1: I mean, they have to know they're killing us. 419 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 2: I go back and forth on that, and that's what 420 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:36,399 Speaker 2: a lot of people hit on, is what you know, 421 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,119 Speaker 2: what's like, what's the motivation here? And I'll tell you 422 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:42,399 Speaker 2: I've I've had some very dark views on this and 423 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 2: kind of modulate, you know, based on the day. I 424 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 2: would say this. I think the beauty of the system 425 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 2: in a way is that everyone has some plausible deniability, right, 426 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 2: Like nobody is response for asking why everyone's getting sick. Right. 427 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 2: You know, these obestie clinics that are popping up, they're 428 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:02,399 Speaker 2: trying to help payatis, you know, manage their obeseity, give 429 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 2: them drugs and surgeries. They're not asking why people are 430 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 2: getting obese. They fundamentally lose money. If those patients learn 431 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 2: to eat better and actually manage, you know, they're they're incentivized, 432 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 2: you know, for these lifetime drugs, this new zebic thing, 433 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 2: and surgeries, and they can probably maybe go to sleep 434 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:24,440 Speaker 2: at night or convince themselves to Doctor Fauci feels like 435 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 2: he's giving grants to, you know, to researchers to research disease, uh, 436 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 2: not really taking responsibility for the fact that he's responsible 437 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 2: for trillions of dollars. I think over his career at 438 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,119 Speaker 2: the in age, it's like almost a trillion dollars of 439 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 2: research funding for chronic disease management and chronic disease race 440 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,439 Speaker 2: have exploded, which is in the interest of everyone he's 441 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 2: funding so so so I think there is potentials. But 442 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 2: if you look at doctors right now, they have the 443 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 2: highest suicide rate and the highest burnout rate of any profession. 444 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 2: If you talk to any doctor off the record at 445 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 2: any hospital in America, they'll say something's very wrong. They'll 446 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 2: say their system is not helping patients. The patients aren't 447 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 2: getting better. And I think when you look at that 448 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 2: suicide rate, which is actually at epidemic levels for doctors, 449 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 2: you don't you know, missionaries who are working hard don't 450 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 2: commit suicide at epidemic rates. People that believe in what 451 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 2: they're doing. They've actually the New York Times, which they 452 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 2: were right in this case, actually to the study of 453 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:22,200 Speaker 2: doctors recently has said they have the same chronic across 454 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 2: the medical field, the same psychological problem that soldiers who 455 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:30,679 Speaker 2: for forced to commit war crimes have, that doctors are 456 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:36,160 Speaker 2: actually realizing and have this PTSD feeling because they got 457 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 2: in for the right reasons, but actually understand that they're 458 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 2: actually committing crimes against humanity essentially. So I actually do 459 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 2: think there's this awareness building, you know, I think we 460 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 2: all know good doctors, but I do think there is 461 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 2: a lack of moral courage among leaders in the medical 462 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 2: industry among pharmaceutical leaders, hospital leaders, doctors to not raise 463 00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 2: their hand and say this has to end. Are our 464 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 2: voracious appetite as a system for more and more sick 465 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 2: patients to grow? It's going to destroy the country. What 466 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 2: are the assumptions of a brand new pediatric cardiology center. 467 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 2: The loans that underwrote the building of that hospital necessitate 468 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 2: more kids with heart problems? It will the loan that 469 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 2: Goldman Sachs gave that hospital, some big bank will default 470 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 2: if more kids don't get sick. The new obeste clinics 471 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 2: that they're building will go bankrupt and people will be 472 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 2: fired if more people don't get obese. Like this, you 473 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:43,679 Speaker 2: just have to look at the banks that are underwriting 474 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 2: and investing in this industry and look at their models, 475 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 2: and look when they're underwriting the new obestie drug they 476 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,880 Speaker 2: have rates of obestie going up as the drugists prescribe more. 477 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 2: That's what the dollars tell us. That's what history tells us. 478 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 2: But we're being gaslight. Had been told that more and 479 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:05,919 Speaker 2: more like siloed drugs that just band aid the problem 480 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 2: instead of the core issue, which is food, are going 481 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 2: to work. We're being played for fools, and it unfortunately 482 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 2: keeps working. 483 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 1: Well and not only a band aid, but I mean 484 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 1: it's a vicious cycle because we're being encouraged to eat 485 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 1: food that's making us sick, then put on medicine, and 486 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 1: then what are the consequences of the medicine? Like what 487 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 1: are the consequences of taking ozembic for the future, or 488 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 1: you know, what are the consequences of the COVID vaccine 489 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 1: for someone who was never at risk from COVID in 490 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,160 Speaker 1: the first place and was forced to get the vaccine, 491 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 1: or even on infertility to be honest, like, I don't 492 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 1: have any evidence of this, but I have concerned about 493 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 1: what birth control that they give young women over a 494 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 1: long period of time does to a woman's body. Is 495 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 1: that introducing something unnatural to a woman? Is that creating? 496 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 1: And you know, and so like, what are the consequences 497 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,119 Speaker 1: of the things that are quote unquote supposed to fix us? 498 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 2: Well, let's just take a case study of a child 499 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 2: to answer that question. So the America, Thecavity Pediatrics, which 500 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 2: sets the standard of care for pediatric care pediatric management, 501 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:06,440 Speaker 2: is their bulk of their budget comes from pharma. They 502 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 2: have been given millions of dollars by the Ozimpic maker, 503 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 2: and they recently said after just a sixty eight week study, 504 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 2: one of the shortest studies ever to approve a drug. 505 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 2: They have said that kids twelve years and up who 506 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 2: are overweight obese should be prescribed to ozempic, which is 507 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:25,640 Speaker 2: a lifetime treatment. Okay, So let's take the forty five 508 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 2: percent of teenagers who are overweight obese. Okay, they inevitably 509 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 2: have high blood pressure, they nevertly have high blood sugar 510 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 2: back lesterol, overweight, they're put on ozempic. Okay, what are 511 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 2: they being told when they are given ozmpic. The core 512 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 2: doctors who are speaking out about OBC, doctor Fatima Stanford 513 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 2: who is at Harvard, who was on sixty minutes and 514 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 2: it's paid for biozempic stead obesie is a brain disease 515 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 2: children have been completely misled to say it's tied to 516 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 2: diet lifestyle. She literally said this you can google in 517 00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 2: sixty minutes. That is the message from an actually has 518 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 2: to be the message from OBC doctors, because if you 519 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 2: establish the OBC is under control, you can't label as 520 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 2: a disease that we need government funding to treat that 521 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 2: people have no control over so obest medicine Field has 522 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 2: completely washed their hands and set OBEs is not due 523 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 2: to what you do, it's genetic, okay. So the kid 524 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 2: being given ozimpic is told it's not about food, so 525 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 2: that kid takes the ozempic and there's a core side effects. 526 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 2: There's a black box warning on on on thyroid cancer. 527 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 2: The EU has actually put a halt to prescriptions because 528 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 2: it's causing such high rates of suicidal aviation and depression, 529 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 2: which makes total sense because the drug is gas or 530 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 2: intentional dysfunction, and ninety five percent of our serotonin is 531 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 2: in our gut, which regulates our happiness, and the drug 532 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 2: is a weapon of mass destruction for the gut. By definition, 533 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 2: it's it's it's it's essentially ejectable bolimia, which is which 534 00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 2: is what it is. So there's a host of side effects. 535 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 2: But even if the drug worked perfectly, you're telling that child, 536 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 2: don't worry about what you eat. So maybe they're eating 537 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 2: what twenty percent less crappy food, but they're still fueling 538 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 2: their celves with crappy food, so they're going to get 539 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 2: on a stand obviously, which you know forty percent of 540 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 2: men over forty you're on, so they're going to get 541 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 2: on a stand. There's huge side effects with stands that 542 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 2: are increasing or coming out. Joe Rogan just did a 543 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 2: big episode on this, But stands are very problematic. But 544 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 2: even if they were perfect, you're still being told, oh, 545 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 2: you now have your heart disease at Bay, no problem, 546 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 2: keep eating whatever you want. Then they inevitably are on 547 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 2: that format or insulin or something for diabetes. Shockingly, the 548 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 2: American Diabetes Association until twenty eighteen said that if you 549 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 2: take your diabetes medication, you can eat whatever you want. 550 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 2: You can drink cokes, eat any food you want, as 551 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 2: much sugar as you want, as long as you take 552 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 2: your diabetes medication. Absolutely criminal, but that's the message people 553 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 2: are being told. They're being told that they're doing something 554 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 2: by taking the pill, but if they don't reverse the 555 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 2: underlying habits that are actctually causing all these comorbidities. But 556 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 2: you're not going to play whack them all with the pill. 557 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 2: You can literally, you know, as a as a health strategy, 558 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 2: take the four trillion dollars that we spend on healthcare 559 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 2: and actually like work to drive better root cause outcomes. 560 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 2: It sounds so simple. But that's the way anyone would 561 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 2: design the system. If they just came with a blindfold 562 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 2: on and saw the fact that fifty percent of adults 563 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 2: were pre diabetic or diabetics, eighty percent worldbees all of 564 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 2: the metabolic that's obviously what you would do. You know, 565 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 2: you'd work to take some of the poison out of 566 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 2: our food system. You wouldn't recommend from the USCA that 567 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 2: two year old should eat ten percent of their diaz 568 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 2: added sugar, which we do today. You wouldn't subsidize sugar 569 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 2: and ultra processed food, which we do, which is a 570 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 2: completely non conservative policy. You know, you would just start 571 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 2: to unwind the fact that we recommend and subsidize poisonous food. 572 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 2: You know, and I would personally pay lower income folks 573 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 2: on medicaid who are diabetic, who are bankrupting our country, 574 00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 2: pay them to exercise, and just think about incentives to 575 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 2: get people. That would save us much more than the fact, 576 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 2: you know, a thirty year old on Medicaid who's diabetic 577 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 2: is costing our system the taxpayers, millions of dollars over 578 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 2: the course their life. Diabetes is a brilliant disease for 579 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 2: the medical system because it doesn't kill you right away, 580 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 2: but it guarantees you have more holmorbidities to manage. So yeah, 581 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 2: that's that's a quick grant. 582 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 1: On that quick break more on how big food and 583 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 1: big farmer are killing us. We're supposed to be, you know, 584 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 1: body positivity. You know it's okay to be you know. 585 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 1: The Financial Times recently had an article about the dramatic 586 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 1: rising cancer and millennials. Right, you had touched upon this earlier. 587 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 1: But how much of cancer is avoidable? 588 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 2: Oh, my mom's Pancreatic cancer is highly tied to blood 589 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 2: sugar regulation and pre diabetes, diabetes, breast cancer. I can 590 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 2: just cannot stress this enough. Right, we all can understand 591 00:32:56,440 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 2: the link between smoking and lung cancer. Elevated blood sugar 592 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 2: you know they essentially pre diabetes or diabetes is as 593 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 2: predictive for many leading forms of cancer as smoking is 594 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 2: to lung cancer. Cancer is not random at all. As 595 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 2: I said, fifty percent of dogs we process crap we 596 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 2: give them have cancer. Cancer rates are demnimous in the 597 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 2: natural world, right, any animal can get cancer. This is 598 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 2: this is essentially a invention of what humans have done 599 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 2: to ourselves. And food is number one. But it's basic stuff, 600 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 2: it's food, sleep movement, environmental toxins. You know, again, I 601 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 2: used to work for you know, large consumer packaged good 602 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 2: companies and say it's a nanny state to regulate the 603 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 2: chemicals and substances in our food and personal care products. 604 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 2: But I think that actually I've been I was gaslighted 605 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 2: by the system that to call that nanny state. What's 606 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 2: nanny state is that corporations have ribed and corrupted. They've 607 00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 2: got so much that there are thousands of neurotoxins in 608 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 2: our household products and food that are banned in every 609 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 2: other developed country. That's not the free market. Actually, that's 610 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 2: a corruption of the market right there, that we don't 611 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 2: have oversight of proven neurotoxins in our in our food 612 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 2: and personal care products. So, you know, you go down 613 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 2: this rabbit hole. You look at healthcare influencers. They're basically 614 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,919 Speaker 2: ringing alarm about everything. They're ringing alarm about shampoo, They're 615 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 2: ringing the laara about you know, what's in our air, 616 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 2: what's in our water, what's in our food? Uh but 617 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,239 Speaker 2: but but but I will say, and this is how 618 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,800 Speaker 2: I look at it. I won't trade our benefits of 619 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 2: modern society for everything I think the US and capitalism 620 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 2: has produced, you know, the greatest I would not want 621 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,360 Speaker 2: to be in any other society. But that does not 622 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 2: mean we haven't lost our way in some key areas, 623 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:46,800 Speaker 2: and uh, we have been. Our systems have been corrupted, 624 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 2: and we absolutely should not be trusting the institutions that 625 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:52,360 Speaker 2: you know, make the products that we put on our 626 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,320 Speaker 2: our children's in our children's bodies, in our bodies. And 627 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,800 Speaker 2: this is the tax we have to pay as I 628 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 2: think taking more u trusting the system a little bit 629 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,719 Speaker 2: less and taking matters into their own hands more. But yeah, 630 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 2: to reel it all back. Obviously, this is tied to 631 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 2: the fact that cancer is rising dramatically among kids. They 632 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:17,320 Speaker 2: don't call it early on set diabetes diabetes anymore. You know, 633 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,880 Speaker 2: one third of all new diabetes cases among teenagers and 634 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,440 Speaker 2: young adults. They used to call that early onset. It 635 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 2: used to be super rare. There's early onset Alzheimer's. They're 636 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,000 Speaker 2: about to drop the early onset label because people so 637 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 2: much younger are getting dimensioned Alzheimer's now, So everything is 638 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:34,240 Speaker 2: going younger and it's all tied together. 639 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 1: So if someone's listening to this and they're saying, you 640 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,160 Speaker 1: know what, I'm not going to let these assholes kill 641 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,319 Speaker 1: me with their crappy food. I don't want to take 642 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,359 Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to make Big Pharma even 643 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:47,880 Speaker 1: richer by taking their meds. What does a healthy lifestyle 644 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:49,279 Speaker 1: actually look like? 645 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 2: So on a one top down thing, I think we've 646 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,360 Speaker 2: got to I think there's massive frustration on this issue. 647 00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:57,520 Speaker 2: But the reason that big food and big Pharma win 648 00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:01,759 Speaker 2: is because they're able to focus their first on specific legislation, 649 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 2: whereas it's very dispersed. But I think every parent in 650 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 2: the country is horrified by how sick kids are getting 651 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,120 Speaker 2: and how overweight. One thing I just say is I 652 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,759 Speaker 2: would encourage everyone to call, you know, their elected representatives. 653 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,960 Speaker 2: The food stamp bill is up for renewal right now, 654 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,200 Speaker 2: and they're about to continue to hand out to coke. 655 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 2: Coke is the number one item that we subsidize on 656 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:25,919 Speaker 2: food stamps, and Senator Rubio and Senator Booker Biparison bill 657 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:30,200 Speaker 2: just very simple, just not pay for sugar water with 658 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,800 Speaker 2: a government nutrition program, which is totally letting down lower 659 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:37,880 Speaker 2: income people. You know, single moms in such war depending 660 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 2: on this program to to have their kids by nutritious food. 661 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:44,440 Speaker 2: So so call and support the Rubio Booker bill to 662 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,359 Speaker 2: not have food stamps fund coke anymore. It's the number 663 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:49,480 Speaker 2: one item on food stamps. But it's got to be 664 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,000 Speaker 2: a bottom up, bottoms up revolution of one hundred percent. 665 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,800 Speaker 2: And the key message I have is that we have 666 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:59,279 Speaker 2: been completely lied to that things are complicated. If you 667 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:03,560 Speaker 2: scan your l for three ingredients, you're getting eighty percent there. 668 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,920 Speaker 2: So the three ingredients obviously are added sugar, which is everywhere. 669 00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,919 Speaker 2: Sugar consumption is up one hundred times and one hundred years. 670 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:15,200 Speaker 2: Sugar is the most deadliest and I think most pernicious 671 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,360 Speaker 2: drug in the country. I think with food we have 672 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:21,759 Speaker 2: an addiction problem, myself included. We all are in some addicted. 673 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,240 Speaker 2: Food has been weaponized. And if you start cutting sugar 674 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,280 Speaker 2: out of your diet, which comes obviously comes in surprising places, 675 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,520 Speaker 2: you're getting a long way there. Number two is seed oils. 676 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,840 Speaker 2: Seed oils are the number one source of American calories 677 00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:36,880 Speaker 2: right now. If you look at anything, you'd be shocked, 678 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:41,040 Speaker 2: right there will be numerous soybean oil, safflower oil, sunflower oil. 679 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:45,840 Speaker 2: It is unbelievable how these ingredients sneak into any product 680 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,799 Speaker 2: you buy, even if it's at whole foods, organic expensive, 681 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 2: you always have seed oils. These did not exist in 682 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,040 Speaker 2: the American diet until one hundred years ago because they 683 00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,520 Speaker 2: were only created one hundred years ago as an industrial 684 00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,800 Speaker 2: byproduct by John Rockefeller, as a byproduct of oil production, 685 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:04,760 Speaker 2: originally made to grease machinery. Literally, these these are cheap 686 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,920 Speaker 2: oils that are now the staple and largest sources of 687 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,000 Speaker 2: calorie in the American diet. And I think you are 688 00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:14,560 Speaker 2: seeing and going to see increasing research come out about 689 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:19,399 Speaker 2: the scandal of seed oils. So you want to stick 690 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,160 Speaker 2: to olive oil, You want to stick to butter, You 691 00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,960 Speaker 2: want to stick to healthy fats that aren't seed oils. 692 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,400 Speaker 2: Number three is highly processed grains. So if you go 693 00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:33,760 Speaker 2: to a grocery store, gas station, if you pick up anything, 694 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:37,160 Speaker 2: you'd be shocked, Right, it's some kind of enriched wheat, 695 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:40,800 Speaker 2: probably some sugar, and then a couple of seed oils. 696 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:45,279 Speaker 2: Like those three ingredients are the foundation of ulti processed food, 697 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,040 Speaker 2: which is seventy percent of our diet now, and all 698 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:51,560 Speaker 2: three of those ingredients didn't exist one hundred years ago. 699 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:55,480 Speaker 2: You know, processed, you know, readily available sugar is a 700 00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:59,840 Speaker 2: wholly new invention, seed oils are new, and then the 701 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:03,640 Speaker 2: processed s grain. The processing takes the fiber off of 702 00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,640 Speaker 2: the grain and creates into this frankin food that allows 703 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:10,360 Speaker 2: products to stay on shelves for years. But the fiber 704 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,520 Speaker 2: contains a lot of the nutrients and blunts the glucose impact. 705 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:17,240 Speaker 2: So if you eliminate those three ingredients, you're basically forcing, 706 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,719 Speaker 2: particularly with your kids, to a more whole foods diet. 707 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,680 Speaker 2: Or if you're buying processed food, it's it's probably slightly better, 708 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,640 Speaker 2: but that would be it, you know. And I think 709 00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,360 Speaker 2: something that's helped me is just seeing you know, I 710 00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:35,000 Speaker 2: don't really like to exercise, but my mental shift has 711 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:38,480 Speaker 2: been exercise is just a tax that we have to 712 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:41,120 Speaker 2: pay in modern society. You know, we used to walk 713 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:42,759 Speaker 2: around a lot as humans. We used to be in 714 00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,279 Speaker 2: the stun more. You know, indoors is basically a new 715 00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,839 Speaker 2: concept biologically, but we have like we're being forced into 716 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,640 Speaker 2: a sedentary life and getting movement and building that habit 717 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:55,239 Speaker 2: isn't for anything other than the fact that if you 718 00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,719 Speaker 2: put any animal in an enclosed cage in New York 719 00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,320 Speaker 2: and an apartment in an office, they'll go c And 720 00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:03,120 Speaker 2: I think we really are going crazy by lack of movement. 721 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,040 Speaker 2: That's at least we can go down the list, but 722 00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:11,800 Speaker 2: it's going through the basic metabolic habits. It's cut the 723 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:16,120 Speaker 2: ultra processed food, move sleep. You know, read books by 724 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,600 Speaker 2: Mark Hymen, by Rob Loustick, by a lot of Warriors 725 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:20,920 Speaker 2: in the space Frankly, listen to Joe Rogan and another 726 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:24,000 Speaker 2: podcast you're talking about it, you know, and just go 727 00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:29,160 Speaker 2: on a path of curiosity believing that you can cure 728 00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:32,200 Speaker 2: and thrive things in your body instead of depending on 729 00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:34,120 Speaker 2: this medical system. And that's totally letting us down. 730 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,040 Speaker 1: Now, I may I have to work out. It's just 731 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,440 Speaker 1: a you know, a mental health thing. It just clears 732 00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:41,000 Speaker 1: my mind. It's like I just I have to. I'd 733 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:42,480 Speaker 1: ask you about alcohol, but I don't know if I'm 734 00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:46,279 Speaker 1: ready for that conversation before we go, and tell us 735 00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:47,600 Speaker 1: a little bit about true medicine. 736 00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,480 Speaker 2: So after my mom died, that was a big impact 737 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,360 Speaker 2: on me. And then my sister, who I mentioned briefly, 738 00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:58,759 Speaker 2: after thirteen years of training as a surgeon, left the 739 00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:02,880 Speaker 2: field abruptly quipped because she realized that at Samframed School 740 00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,600 Speaker 2: she didn't take one nutrition class like ninety percent of 741 00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,760 Speaker 2: doctors that graduate and went on a journey on metabolic 742 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,560 Speaker 2: health and has been a a big advocate as well. 743 00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:15,520 Speaker 2: Doctor Casey means. So I started asking a couple of 744 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:19,000 Speaker 2: years ago, how can I impact this issue which is 745 00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:23,399 Speaker 2: really changing the incentives to instead of healthcare dollars kicking 746 00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:25,200 Speaker 2: and once people get sick, to manage conditions, how do 747 00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:28,799 Speaker 2: we keep people healthy? So Trumed actually in a very 748 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:33,000 Speaker 2: seamless way writes doctors notes for food or exercise which 749 00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:36,080 Speaker 2: actually unlock hsa FSA spending. So there's one hundred and 750 00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,640 Speaker 2: fifty billion dollars in these accounts most people have. I 751 00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:41,520 Speaker 2: never use these accounts because they're seen as like, you know, 752 00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:45,480 Speaker 2: tools to use when you're sick for drugs, but almost 753 00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:48,200 Speaker 2: every American has these accounts. You can put ten thousand 754 00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:51,560 Speaker 2: dollars tax free money into these accounts, and with our 755 00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:55,040 Speaker 2: notes that we can provide, we write prevention and reversal 756 00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:59,560 Speaker 2: plans for conditions, tying food, exercise, supplements, cold plunges, so 757 00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:03,239 Speaker 2: as metabal key healthy items. So we're enabling people to 758 00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:09,440 Speaker 2: buy their exercise, tax free healthy groceries, their supplements, and 759 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,600 Speaker 2: for average, that's a thirty percent savings. We have a 760 00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:15,280 Speaker 2: very seamless process, so true mead dot com. We're partnering 761 00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:18,680 Speaker 2: with a lot of leading brands. You can see our 762 00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:20,480 Speaker 2: Snipe and a lot of brands you've probably heard of. 763 00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,880 Speaker 2: And it's just a simple, probably three minute process to 764 00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:28,680 Speaker 2: get that doctor's note and use medical dollars right, use 765 00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,680 Speaker 2: like tax advantage medical dollars, not waiting for when you 766 00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:33,520 Speaker 2: get sick and need a bunch of drugs, but actually 767 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,640 Speaker 2: you know, to be buying exercise of food for your family. 768 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,640 Speaker 2: So that's our mission. And I'm also writing a book 769 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,279 Speaker 2: which is coming out next year with my sister on 770 00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:44,919 Speaker 2: this topic, which we're really excited about. 771 00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, we'd love to have you both on when 772 00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:50,320 Speaker 1: the book comes out, and maybe we can talk about alcohol. 773 00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:51,880 Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know, we might want to give that. 774 00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:54,279 Speaker 2: You know, you got to have some fun, but you 775 00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:58,000 Speaker 2: just sugar or sometimes alcohol sometimes. But the analogous point 776 00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:00,840 Speaker 2: is like we're not putting alcohol or committing alcohol or 777 00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:02,840 Speaker 2: kids and putting in all the like sugar just sneaks 778 00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:04,800 Speaker 2: in everywhere. I think that's the problem. We just we 779 00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:06,640 Speaker 2: need to think of more things like alcohol like not 780 00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,600 Speaker 2: necessarily a good thing, not a good thing, but you know, 781 00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:14,360 Speaker 2: we should be allowed to have treats and fun, but 782 00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:18,279 Speaker 2: with food, it's just been normalized into everything we eat, 783 00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:19,720 Speaker 2: which I think is really the problem. 784 00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:21,920 Speaker 1: I laugh about the alcohol, but I've actually tried to 785 00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:23,480 Speaker 1: cut that down to you to just like a couple 786 00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:25,759 Speaker 1: of glasses of wine, because I know that's you know, 787 00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:29,680 Speaker 1: going to kill me too. For everything's killing Kelly. This 788 00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:33,800 Speaker 1: is such an interesting conversation. We've learned so much from you, 789 00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:36,200 Speaker 1: so I really appreciate you taking the time for joining 790 00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,359 Speaker 1: us and enlightening us. So thank you so much. 791 00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:39,640 Speaker 2: Thank you, Lisa. 792 00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:47,840 Speaker 1: Those Calie Means, founder of True med. I mean that 793 00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,920 Speaker 1: was a fascinating conversation. I hope you guys enjoyed it. 794 00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,759 Speaker 1: I've been thinking a lot about health recently, just trying 795 00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,000 Speaker 1: to be healthier to the best of my ability. I've 796 00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,440 Speaker 1: found him fascinating. So appreciate you guys listening to the 797 00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:00,520 Speaker 1: show every Monday and Thursday, but so you can listen 798 00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,320 Speaker 1: throughout the week. I want to thank John Cassio and 799 00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,160 Speaker 1: my producer for putting the show together. Please drop us 800 00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:07,560 Speaker 1: a review on Apple. We like to look at those. 801 00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:09,480 Speaker 1: Whatever you want. Until next time,