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Speaker 1: Hey, sweeties, it's christopherne Hazelin and you're about to hear

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Speaker 1: a special reair of one of the most powerful episodes

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Speaker 1: we've had on Keep It Positive. Sweetie, the one and

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Speaker 1: only Tyler Perry sat with me and shared his journey

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Speaker 1: with a level of honesty and intention that shook so

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Speaker 1: many of us, from his early struggles to building an

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Speaker 1: empire with faith and vision, his story and his words

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Speaker 1: lit a fire under this community. I've heard so many

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Speaker 1: of you say that this episode gave you clarity, courage,

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Speaker 1: and confirmation to keep going. Whether it's your first listen

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Speaker 1: or your third, Tyler's story is the kind that HiT's different.

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Speaker 2: Every single time. Hello, and welcome to this episode of

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Speaker 2: Keep It Positive. Sweetie. Guys, I am so excited about

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Speaker 2: this episode.

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Speaker 1: I have none other than my boss, the biggest boss,

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Speaker 1: multi hyphan. You are an author, You are a writer,

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Speaker 1: a director, a philanthropist, a father, everything.

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Speaker 2: Tyler Perry, My god, hey, like, I literally feel like

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Speaker 2: this is my first time doing this. I was so nervous.

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Speaker 3: I could like, that's so crazy because we talked all

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Speaker 3: the time all the yes.

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Speaker 2: I just wanted to make you proud to do this right.

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Speaker 3: I'm already proud. I'm already proud of the other episodes.

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Speaker 3: I'm proud at the title. You got to tell me

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Speaker 3: how that came about.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, it came about because I had a young

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Speaker 1: lady actually had posted a young woman's work who helped

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Speaker 1: me organize my closet.

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Speaker 2: And this woman got on.

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Speaker 1: She was like, all this bragging and boasting, you need

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Speaker 1: to go buy some land or a house.

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Speaker 2: I said, I had time. I'm like, I nor block,

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Speaker 2: we got time today.

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Speaker 1: My little fingers got the turtin and I was like,

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Speaker 1: I said, what you should look is I'm supporting another

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Speaker 1: woman's business and not looking at it from a negative standpoint.

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Speaker 2: I just put hashtag keep it positive, sweetie. Oh okay,

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Speaker 2: and it grew legs.

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Speaker 1: My fans were like it just like literally went crazy. DeNora,

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Speaker 1: we were trying to come with a title for the podcast,

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Speaker 1: and she's like, a time.

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Speaker 2: I think of you, I think of abundance.

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Speaker 1: And in that moment, I was like, in the back

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Speaker 1: of my hand, I said, what if it's not always

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Speaker 1: like this?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, abundant? Like what if my life is? It was crazy? Lad,

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Speaker 2: just got to thinking about.

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Speaker 3: It, and what if your life wasn't.

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Speaker 1: Always isn't always like this wasn't always because abundance. She's like,

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Speaker 1: every time I think of you, I think of abundance.

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Speaker 1: And a part of me was like, but what if.

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Speaker 2: It's not always like this?

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Speaker 3: And you know where that came from.

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Speaker 2: We can get into that, We can definitely get into that.

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Speaker 3: That is clearly just that unfeathered fear from childhood or

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Speaker 3: something that somebody said to you, or something that somebody

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Speaker 3: going to last always yes, And that is a horrible, horrible,

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Speaker 3: sinking feeling, and it's also a lie, but it can

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Speaker 3: going and work even harder. So that's what I used

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Speaker 3: it for. I used to hear it. I don't hear

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Speaker 3: no more. I don't hear I think I'm all.

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Speaker 2: Right now, you are all right? You all right?

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Speaker 1: So we were brainstorming and I was like, you know,

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Speaker 1: I want to do a little segment on the show

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Speaker 1: called keep a Positive Speedy and they're like, that's the

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Speaker 3: That's great. I don't like addressing haters. But that's good.

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Speaker 3: I'm plaid. Something great came out because people, you know,

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Speaker 3: and social media in this world, they're sitting around nothing

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Speaker 3: to do, and and and what what you have to

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Speaker 3: understand about people who post negative things like that? The

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Speaker 3: algorithms in social media, if you click on something negative,

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Speaker 3: And if you keep letting that stuff in everything negative, everything, negative, everything, gossip, everything,

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Speaker 3: I'm very much about keeping a positive sweetie, and staying

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you do a really good job of that.

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Speaker 3: I try to. I try to. I don't. I don't

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Speaker 1: When I know they're talking about me, you're not gonna

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, I'll fight somebody over you now, no.

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Speaker 3: No, no, somebody tell me somebody's in, you will if

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Speaker 3: solutions to what people are going through, no offering trying

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Speaker 2: No, No, that's real. I love it. I love that.

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Speaker 2: I want to do a little story time. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: Yes, when we when it first started, when I first

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Speaker 1: first thing they told me do not look at him

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Speaker 3: And don't you know, I don't even know what year

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Speaker 3: Who was starting all this shit? Don't keep absolutely who

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Speaker 3: Somebody told you that?

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Speaker 1: Yes, that was like a part of like my getting

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Speaker 1: reminded me of Capitol Hill when I worked on the Hills,

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Speaker 2: If they're on the train going to the Capital.

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Speaker 1: And I had an Obama incident where I was running

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Speaker 2: He said come on. I was like you sure. He's like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: But it reminded me of that where there's certain rules.

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Speaker 1: And maybe a few weeks in we were walking past

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Speaker 2: You see him. So I just said good morning, and you.

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Speaker 1: Smoke back, and I was like, it was like a movie.

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Speaker 3: I know it, And that's why I wanted to, like

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Speaker 3: I was. I was stopping the hallway and talk and

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Speaker 3: see you know, how's your mom? How things are you? Will?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, complete opposite of what I was told, And I

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Speaker 3: I'm just thinking Capitol Hill to hear, Okay, go ahead,

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Speaker 3: It's not lost on me. Go ahead.

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Speaker 1: And then I worked my way up and a lot

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Speaker 1: of people are always like, how did you and Tala

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Speaker 2: How did you even start working for him? How that

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Speaker 1: And do you remember when we were doing Soul Cycle

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Speaker 2: And you were like literally, you were like, well make

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Speaker 3: Because these are the thing that people forget. I can't

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Speaker 3: be people in departments who are suffering, who are shorthanded

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so I was.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you made me feel very comfortable. I was like okay,

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Speaker 1: and I don't sometimes like Chris, why you didn't say

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Speaker 2: Cool, Like if people look at you because you're six six,

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Speaker 2: you're like this giant is like oh gosh, Like how

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Speaker 2: do I even approach this man like you approach everybody.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but there was just another testament to like how

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Speaker 3: When people make me aware of it. Yeah, because this

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Speaker 3: a we move we do, but we are still together.

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Speaker 3: I'm right there with them, side by side in the trenches.

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Speaker 3: So it makes it all just we see everybody pushing

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Speaker 3: in the same direction. Yeah, that's why we've been able

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Speaker 3: to do what we do.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, and it starts with you because I remember, even

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Speaker 1: we're all exhausted, everyone's working these hours, and you're right

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Speaker 1: there with us from sun up to sundown, and it's.

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Speaker 2: Like this man, ain't got to do this at all.

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Speaker 2: You can literally be on your island or in one

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Speaker 3: Nope, I don't have to be here literally, but I

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Speaker 3: where I was right so understanding that through some hard trials,

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00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:39,399
Speaker 3: I learned to just surrender when it shows up.

440
00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:42,200
Speaker 1: Wow, I want to touch on something that you've held

441
00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:47,560
Speaker 1: me in my personal life when it comes to going higher, when.

442
00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:49,720
Speaker 3: You've been told by men.

443
00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:56,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, because we talked about relationships, yes.

444
00:19:56,280 --> 00:20:00,600
Speaker 1: But it was in my living. It was we were shooting,

445
00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:04,560
Speaker 1: I want to say, madea maybe Halloween, the second one

446
00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:06,680
Speaker 1: one of the movies, and that's when I was still

447
00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:10,239
Speaker 1: styling you. We're in the bathroom changing media's wardrobe and

448
00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:13,080
Speaker 1: you were like, where are you living? And I said, oh,

449
00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:16,320
Speaker 1: I'm rinting a townhouse and you're like, okay, You're like

450
00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:18,280
Speaker 1: you are on it and I said no, and he goes,

451
00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:20,360
Speaker 1: you need to go buy a house. And I was like, well, sir,

452
00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:22,679
Speaker 1: the way we work. I was like, we work and

453
00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:24,840
Speaker 1: then we save our money to live when we're not working.

454
00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:27,680
Speaker 1: It's hard to save when you're just like living. You know,

455
00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:31,320
Speaker 1: I'm saying basically living paycheck to paycheck. And you were.

456
00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,359
Speaker 2: Like, okay, well how much is the house?

457
00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:35,880
Speaker 1: And I was like, well, the ones I'm looking at

458
00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:38,119
Speaker 1: like we'd be like two fifty three hundred thousand.

459
00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:39,600
Speaker 2: And you're like, well, how much the damn payment.

460
00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:42,920
Speaker 1: I was like like, if you put ten percent down,

461
00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:46,320
Speaker 1: you may do like fifteen thousands between twenty and fifteen thousand.

462
00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:49,439
Speaker 2: And you're like, okays, the way you waiting on, I said, well,

463
00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:51,679
Speaker 2: you like, go get your house.

464
00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:54,919
Speaker 1: And it was in that moment I was like, good lord,

465
00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:55,800
Speaker 1: what a boss.

466
00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:57,000
Speaker 2: Go get your house.

467
00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:58,720
Speaker 1: So I got that house and I came back to

468
00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,040
Speaker 1: it set of By then we were shooting having having

469
00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:04,320
Speaker 1: its because we moved on to the next project. You're like, christ,

470
00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:06,320
Speaker 1: she got her house. He was like, I give you

471
00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:10,119
Speaker 1: four years. You'll be in a mansion within four years.

472
00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,479
Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember saying that. We were

473
00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:15,120
Speaker 1: all said, you called me, and you like, it's time

474
00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:16,840
Speaker 1: to get out a little apartment he called.

475
00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:20,240
Speaker 2: House an apartment. Yeah, a four bedroom threven have that.

476
00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:24,119
Speaker 3: It's beautiful. It was beautiful. But I knew again in

477
00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:26,719
Speaker 3: my life what I learned and what I understood was

478
00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:30,680
Speaker 3: be open when it shows up. That's not arrogance, that's

479
00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:33,880
Speaker 3: not anything. There's so many people who I know I've

480
00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:37,119
Speaker 3: met in this lifetime being having been very poor and

481
00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:39,600
Speaker 3: now doing very well, who on that side of it

482
00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:44,200
Speaker 3: they never apologized for We as black people, constantly apologize

483
00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:45,840
Speaker 3: when we have something good, Like you talked about that

484
00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:47,679
Speaker 3: lady who talked about stop showing off. You should be,

485
00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:49,920
Speaker 3: you should be. See, that's somebody who don't even understand

486
00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:56,320
Speaker 3: that it's based on the experiences of what we have

487
00:21:56,480 --> 00:22:01,280
Speaker 3: done as black people in this country, the things I did.

488
00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:06,720
Speaker 3: Our success has already been bought and paid for. If

489
00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:10,640
Speaker 3: we could get our mentality around what that means, Yes,

490
00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:12,399
Speaker 3: you wouldn't walk around apologizing for it.

491
00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:15,920
Speaker 2: I know that's right, And you taught me to live unapologetically.

492
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:17,400
Speaker 3: Yes, it's okay, yep.

493
00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,520
Speaker 1: And even when I was living in a scarcity mindset,

494
00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:22,199
Speaker 1: You like Chris, I know, you feel like you just

495
00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,199
Speaker 1: got through the door or just one foot You're like

496
00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,360
Speaker 1: you're in the door. You're right, You're all right, go

497
00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:27,920
Speaker 1: get what you want. I was like, well, I don't

498
00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,240
Speaker 1: know if I can like stop living like that because

499
00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,600
Speaker 1: you said that you would go buy what you could afford, like,

500
00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:34,679
Speaker 1: I know, I can handle this. And then you're in

501
00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:36,680
Speaker 1: there for two years and you're like, I should have

502
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,320
Speaker 1: just got what I wanted because God continued to multiply,

503
00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:41,359
Speaker 1: multiply and be like, I could have just got what

504
00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:41,680
Speaker 1: I want.

505
00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,280
Speaker 3: I want. Yes, And many times in my life I've

506
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,320
Speaker 3: been in a situation why did I buy this? Why

507
00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:49,120
Speaker 3: am I Why ain't about this? I didn't when that's

508
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:49,720
Speaker 3: right there?

509
00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:53,360
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, yeah, So you you helped me to one

510
00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:56,159
Speaker 1: dream bigger, to open my lens and be like, okay,

511
00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,840
Speaker 1: I can do this. And every time I go higher,

512
00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:00,600
Speaker 1: my wife just makes room.

513
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:01,800
Speaker 2: It makes room.

514
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:05,240
Speaker 1: My ideas get bigger the money it comes, and it's

515
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,040
Speaker 1: never like a oh God, how about to take care

516
00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:07,200
Speaker 1: of it?

517
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:11,760
Speaker 3: There you go, and then you realize, after four years ago, man,

518
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,520
Speaker 3: I just breezed through that I wasn't even that wasn't

519
00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:18,480
Speaker 3: even a stretch because your mind became open to the

520
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:20,440
Speaker 3: possibility of what it could be.

521
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,600
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah it is. But that also comes with exposure.

522
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,800
Speaker 1: I'm a young girl from Martin, Tennessee, population ten thousand,

523
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:32,119
Speaker 1: people like super small, and you have one. I remember

524
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,960
Speaker 1: the first time you invite me to the island and

525
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 1: I was sitting at the table with everybody and I

526
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,679
Speaker 1: don't know if you can feel the timidness, and you

527
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:41,120
Speaker 1: were like, if you're at this table, it's.

528
00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:41,720
Speaker 2: Because you belong.

529
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,119
Speaker 1: And I remember one morning just walking around, just touching

530
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,560
Speaker 1: the leaves. I'd never seen an island.

531
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,119
Speaker 2: A private island, a private alum. I've been on an

532
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:50,400
Speaker 2: island and not an island.

533
00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 1: Like that, And I was like, this man, this is

534
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:55,119
Speaker 1: his own island, Like just what, I don't even need

535
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 1: all this, Like this is possible. Then that's exposure, you

536
00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,399
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Just knowing that I know somebody

537
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,320
Speaker 1: who has done it, this is something I can do

538
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 1: as well. And the places you've taken me, we traveled

539
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 1: the world together, has opened my eyes to so much

540
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 1: where a lot of people aren't privy to sing thinking.

541
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:15,560
Speaker 3: About a couple of things traveling the world. But let

542
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:16,480
Speaker 3: me just say this and then I'll go to the

543
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 3: traveling world. Oprah. Oprah did that for me when I

544
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,560
Speaker 3: first went to her house. She did that for me.

545
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,720
Speaker 3: I was like, Oh, this is possible. You can actually

546
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,560
Speaker 3: dream and be and I'll never forget. I'm on video

547
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 3: saying this. I'm probably thirty five. At the thirty six,

548
00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,399
Speaker 3: my first movie had just come out, and I was

549
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 3: just like, oh, I could have this. It took all

550
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 3: of the reins and blinders off, and I was just like, Okay, God,

551
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,119
Speaker 3: what you got. Yeah, Well, I'm gonna do the best

552
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,399
Speaker 3: I can to honor it. I'm gonna be good to people.

553
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:46,719
Speaker 3: I'm gonna everybody comes in my life, I'm gonna make

554
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:50,240
Speaker 3: sure that they are touched and affected in a beautiful way,

555
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:54,080
Speaker 3: that their lives are changed, that they're really see and dream.

556
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,200
Speaker 3: Everything you show me got, I'm gonna try to pass

557
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:57,879
Speaker 3: it on to somebody else and everybody who can get it,

558
00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 3: I'll take it right. So that's the feeling I want

559
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,359
Speaker 3: the people around me to have. That's the feeling I

560
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 3: want the people at the studio to have, because at

561
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:10,679
Speaker 3: this point was what else is? What else is there

562
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:10,919
Speaker 3: to do?

563
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 2: Exactly exactly? That's so good.

564
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're traveling the world, just like she don't like roaches.

565
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:24,679
Speaker 3: So so we we were in really nice. So do

566
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,879
Speaker 3: y'all know them beautiful places over the water A little bugo.

567
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:28,719
Speaker 2: It was nice.

568
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 3: If you walk in the hotel that's very expensive and

569
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 3: there's roach spray in the closet, something something up.

570
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:36,639
Speaker 2: So I didn't catch that.

571
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 3: I didn't read. I didn't read that road spray because

572
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 3: the place is beautiful, the glass bottom of look. I

573
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 3: was like, okay, I'm about Crystal doing in her room screams.

574
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 2: I do not do roaches. I was like, they're like

575
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 2: the people came in the room, that manager and he

576
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,919
Speaker 2: was like, oh, I'm talking about it was a big roach.

577
00:25:58,000 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 2: He was like, oh, this is a water bug.

578
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 3: That's we from the south, and we get on his head.

579
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,200
Speaker 3: That's a cock throat. Y'all got to get that thing.

580
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 2: Y'all came in there moving furniture for me. Y'all in here,

581
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:13,880
Speaker 2: turn the arrow.

582
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 3: Turn the arrow, yeah, yep. Or any time I said beyond,

583
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 3: she was ready to go.

584
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.

585
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 1: The first time you saw me, I was in Miami, guys,

586
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 1: I'm on a vacation. I always I like to travel

587
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 1: by myself sometimes and then my girls to come meet

588
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 1: me after I've had my me time. And so it

589
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,959
Speaker 1: was before my girls landed and I had unpacked. I

590
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 1: was staying in Miami for a while. I had unpacked

591
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:37,919
Speaker 1: my clothes and I never do that. I never unpack

592
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 1: and hang things up. I just live out the suitcase.

593
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,120
Speaker 1: This particular trip, I had unpacked. I get a call

594
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,359
Speaker 1: and he's like, hey, I need you to pack some

595
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,439
Speaker 1: things for me. I've got to go to Copenhagen. And

596
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 1: I was like okay, and he was I said, okay,

597
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 1: I'll get some things done. So I had called our money.

598
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 1: I was like, hair money, can you face on me?

599
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 1: So I can you can help me this come out

600
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,480
Speaker 1: in town? And then I get another call and you

601
00:26:58,520 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 1: were like.

602
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 2: Well, I need you to pack your too, because we're

603
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 2: going to see Beyonce. Y'all. I ain't never packed. I

604
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:07,399
Speaker 2: ain't never got to the airport that fast.

605
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 3: I called you, caught you back. I called you back

606
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 3: because I knew you had friends, I knew you had packed.

607
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 3: I called you back. I say, so you think you're

608
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 3: gonna you're going I'm at the airport.

609
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 2: I'm going through back on me away.

610
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:28,439
Speaker 1: And that was the most amazing experience. We flew on

611
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 1: your jet to covien Haagen. I got to meet Beyonce

612
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,159
Speaker 1: for the first time, y'all, like, do we need a

613
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 1: land to pass?

614
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 2: She gonna faint?

615
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 1: What's gonna happen? Oh my goodness, And that was just

616
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 1: that was crazy. Thank you for the many experiences, but

617
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 1: that was that when it started.

618
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 3: Exposure. Exposure, that's what I that's what I completely love

619
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 3: and hope that more of us have, you know, And

620
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,119
Speaker 3: it doesn't take you don't have to travel the world

621
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 3: to to You could just get out of your neighborhood,

622
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 3: go to other neighborhoods see other things. Like when I

623
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 3: was struggling and broken my when he said, man, I

624
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 3: would I barely had nickel or anything to eat, but

625
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 3: I would go to an open house and in the

626
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 3: nicest neighborhoods, and I would drive test drive cars, just

627
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,399
Speaker 3: not for the materialness of it, but just to know

628
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,679
Speaker 3: it's possible, yes, right, And because in my neighborhood there

629
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 3: was there was the drug boys or the preachers that

630
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:23,160
Speaker 3: were the only ones doing well.

631
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 2: Wow.

632
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:27,639
Speaker 3: So I didn't see anybody else that you know, was

633
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 3: in the movie business or anything. I didn't see any

634
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,920
Speaker 3: of that. So coming to Atlanta really opened my mind

635
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 3: up to the possibility of there are other things you

636
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 3: can be other than those two.

637
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 1: Absolutely, Wow, that's good. Something else that I have learned

638
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 1: from you is generosity. I've always just naturally just been

639
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 1: a nice person, speak to everybody.

640
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 2: But it was first it was Andy Norman, who we.

641
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 3: Love works at the right hand over there here.

642
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, love him.

643
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 1: And he called me one day he always goes to

644
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 1: church on Wednesdays, and he said that I don't know

645
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 1: why God put you on my spirit, but he told

646
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 1: me to tell you your living is in your giving.

647
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 1: He said, I don't know what this, why what it was?

648
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 1: And at this time I was I wasn't even costume designing.

649
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 1: I was just a costumer, so that you know, that's

650
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 1: just like, okay, what does that mean?

651
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 2: You know, He's like, your living is in your giving.

652
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 2: So we take a break.

653
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 1: I get a call from Ozzie, who was the president

654
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 1: at the time, and he goes, hey, t I want

655
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 1: me to call you to see if you be interested

656
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 1: in costume designing the next season it shows and I

657
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 1: was like, oh, that's that's a big in a big job,

658
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 1: Like I don't know if I'm ready for this, if

659
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 1: I'm prepared, And I ended up praying about it, and

660
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 1: I ended up taking the job. And when I walked

661
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 1: in for my first day and he was like, I

662
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 1: didn't know where you were going or what was about.

663
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 1: He said, but you're you're going like babe, you're going higher.

664
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 1: And I was like, hey, this is crazy, and he's like,

665
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 1: don't forget what I said. And he always reminded me

666
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 1: and I never forget that. But just being around you

667
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 1: and styling you for the years I styled you and

668
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 1: actually getting a close up look at how you run things,

669
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 1: the way you give silently. People don't even know the

670
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 1: half of the things you do because you can be

671
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 1: sitting in your livo and watch a TV like I

672
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 1: want to health itly and figure I find her I need.

673
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 1: I want to help her rebuild. Whatever you said, you

674
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 1: always bless people. And I remember it was during COVID

675
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 1: and you called me and you said, hey, I just

676
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 1: want to shake on you. Are you good because you

677
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 1: weren't working. You wanted to make sure I was.

678
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 2: I was okay. I said, no, you're taking good care

679
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 2: of me.

680
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 1: I'm good, And in turn I turned around and called

681
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 1: Herman remember what he had told us the story, and

682
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 1: it just that's I feel like when you're around somebody,

683
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 1: you're a caliber. Those are the things you need to

684
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,239
Speaker 1: take from them, you know, Like learning how to like

685
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 1: that was a valuable thing for me. Like this man

686
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 1: will he just gives freely and with a cheerful heart.

687
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 1: And that was one of the things I was like,

688
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 1: when I'm in this position, like cause I would already

689
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 1: do already do it.

690
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 2: Like when we come back to work, I buy people

691
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 2: lunch because I knew they weren't had been worked for

692
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 2: a while, so I would do what I could do

693
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 2: that I couldn't buy a car.

694
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 3: That's the same. That's the same thing though giving. Giving

695
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 3: doesn't have a value when it comes from a pure place.

696
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 3: It could be ten billion dollars, it could be two pennies.

697
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 3: It doesn't have a value when it comes from purity.

698
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 3: Giving is about what it does for the other person exactly.

699
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 2: And I learned that from you.

700
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 1: So I just that's another thing, Like being around you.

701
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 1: I've learned so many things, just even how to carry

702
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 1: myself because a lot of times you don't know why

703
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 1: guy's putting you around someone. I had no idea why

704
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 1: you chose me, and why guy put it on your

705
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 1: heart to be like her. I want her to come

706
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 1: and help me with this, but in that it was

707
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 1: literally molding me to be able to sit in the

708
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 1: space I'm in now and to be able to carry it.

709
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 2: And you know what I'm saying, That's.

710
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 3: Why I tell everyone who is around somebody who they

711
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 3: are wondering, Like I was around people like Oprah and

712
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 3: know TD Jake's and things, I'm like, why these people

713
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 3: are so amazing? How am I? What am I? What

714
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 3: is this about? But they were there to teach me something,

715
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 3: and I watched the grace of how they carried themselves.

716
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 3: I watched the compassion, and I watch how they treated

717
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 3: everybody around them. You know, all people want to do

718
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 3: is be seen and heard, right, So if you sometimes

719
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 3: that's all they need. And so when I'm helping someone,

720
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 3: and as you said, most of it's private because the

721
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 3: world don't need to know it, but there are moments

722
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 3: where people want to know it. And then there are

723
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 3: moments where I say, Okay, people should know this because

724
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 3: there's so much hell in the world right now, so

725
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 3: let's see see what how much good this can do. Yes, exactly,

726
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 3: But it's it's really really important to be able to

727
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 3: have what you have and have an open hand and

728
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 3: heart to help other people. Yes, I get that from

729
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 3: my mother. I mean I would wake up when I

730
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 3: was a kid and step out of the bed. I

731
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 3: would step on somebody on the floor, like who these people?

732
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 3: She's like, they needed a place to stay right, so

733
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 3: she would. She wouldn't give them no money, but she

734
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 3: would she would. You know, you couldn't get twenty dollars

735
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 3: out of my mother. But she would feed them, she

736
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 3: would clothe them. She she was just amazing.

737
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 2: I love that. I love that you talk about your mother.

738
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 2: I know this.

739
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 1: She's someone who was a dear, dear place in your heart.

740
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,959
Speaker 1: And you talked about the dysfunction of your home growing up.

741
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 1: What was it with that little boy? Because you say

742
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 1: in your book Hire is Waiting you say that ever

743
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 1: since I was a little boy, I've known there was

744
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 1: something greater than myself, something bigger, something stronger, something higher.

745
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 1: I know for me as a kid living in Martin, Tennessee,

746
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 1: I didn't see anything that God had put in my mind.

747
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 1: I didn't see anything that even reflected that. I'm like,

748
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 1: so why do I feel like I can I only

749
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 1: saw it on TV?

750
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 2: What was it?

751
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 1: That little boy living in New Orleans. It was like,

752
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 1: it's something bigger for me than this.

753
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 3: That was That was the most frustrating part of my

754
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 3: life and career is having all of that vision inside

755
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 3: of me and did not sing a path, not seeing

756
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 3: anybody else who had done it, not seen anybody around.

757
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 3: I was just like, how is this even possible for

758
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 3: me to obtain this? But for me, my mother took

759
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 3: me to church all the time, so I I just

760
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 3: would hear my uncle preaching about you know, if you pray,

761
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 3: God will answer your prayers. And I just believed from

762
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:10,840
Speaker 3: a little boy that God was answering my prayers, especially

763
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 3: when I got these. I thought that the television floor

764
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 3: mode of television. Y'all, y'all don't know what that I

765
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 3: do Flora on television. I thought that the people inside

766
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:23,839
Speaker 3: on Gilligan's Island, the TV show, were inside the TV

767
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 3: and I wanted to go behind it and open it

768
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,759
Speaker 3: up and find them. And my father would have killed

769
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 3: me though, so I prayed. I said, God, send me

770
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 3: some little people to take care of. And I'm leaving school.

771
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 3: I come home and there's a house, a bamboo house

772
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 3: on sitting on the porch lady across the street had left,

773
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 3: had moved away, and she asked my mother if I

774
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 3: could have her parakeets, pp and Pierre, and they spoke.

775
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 3: So as a little boy, I'm like, God heard my prayer.

776
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 2: I heard it.

777
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:54,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, So from then on, from then on, it was like, Okay,

778
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 3: this prayer.

779
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:57,840
Speaker 2: Thing works, it works. Prayer.

780
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got to get my coffee to get up

781
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 3: there right exactly right right right right right right right

782
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 3: right downs nice gowns or something.

783
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

784
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 1: I'd like to ask that question because a lot of

785
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 1: times when people see us where we are now, it's

786
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 1: like where did that start? So I definitely wanted to

787
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 1: touch on that.

788
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 3: You can't just say this about God. I know the

789
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 3: world is changing and people are getting away from so

790
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 3: many things, and it makes sense because because of what

791
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 3: church has become. But my whole hope is that if

792
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 3: people have a relationship with God and believing that, they

793
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 3: never ever equate that to something that man is, because

794
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 3: they will always let you down, preacher, pastor priests will

795
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 3: always let you down. They are not God. They're human.

796
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:55,280
Speaker 3: They're allowed to be flawed, they're allowed to make mistakes business.

797
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:59,720
Speaker 3: So I give them the grace of being human. Yes,

798
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 3: but when I need grace, I go to God, not

799
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 3: for them.

800
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 2: Yes. Absolutely.

801
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 1: I literally just yesterday had this conversation with my brother Marquis,

802
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 1: and he was like, you know, I just church heard.

803
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 1: He was like, I just don't feel he said, I

804
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 1: just don't want to go through this again. And I

805
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 1: was like, I said, I literally told him, I said, Marquis,

806
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 1: I was like, the pastor is not God. I was like,

807
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 1: he's human just like we are. I said, you, we're

808
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 1: going to church to get close to God. If that

809
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 1: person is delivering the message the way you need it,

810
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:28,399
Speaker 1: we have to give them grace in their personal life,

811
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 1: right Like, we can't judge.

812
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 3: That or that ain't ain't your business. If God sends

813
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 3: a message and you know when that message is yours

814
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 3: coming through that person, oh you know, God spoke to

815
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 3: you through that person, it's easy to start to see

816
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:46,479
Speaker 3: the person as God and miss the spirit that came through. Yes, listen,

817
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 3: I've gotten messages from winos on the street that was like,

818
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 3: oh that was God just spoke to me.

819
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 2: Uh huh.

820
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 3: So I've learned to completely be when you when you

821
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 3: listen and you're open and you're here, you know you know,

822
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 3: because and what in my life if I praise something

823
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 3: and like I have friends who are praying for me,

824
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 3: your prophet like Andy will do you. God will send

825
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 3: somebody to confirm the exact prayer, the exact thought, the

826
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 3: exact thing I'm going through almost in the exact words.

827
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, he keep talking to all in your business.

828
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 2: Right, so good, so good. So let's talk about something

829
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 2: that you and I talk about. My men, Oh lord,

830
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:32,879
Speaker 2: I mean my man.

831
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 3: Yeah.

832
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 1: So for the longest, like you've seen me go through

833
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 1: different relationships and recently it was a night that we

834
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:43,439
Speaker 1: all went to dinner after you moderated Michelle Obama's book

835
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 1: tour here in Atlanta, and you said, Crystal, you are

836
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 1: vibrating here.

837
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:49,439
Speaker 2: Your man is here.

838
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 1: And I was like, Oh, you're trying to tell me

839
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 1: I'm a low vibrational tyler.

840
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 2: What you're trying to say? And I was like, oh,

841
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 2: I had to think about that. I was like, wow, Like,

842
00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 2: am I well you know what I'm saying. You were like,

843
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 2: you're here and he's up here. You gotta you gotta

844
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 2: go higher, get yeah yeah, And I was like, wow,

845
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:06,880
Speaker 2: that's crazy.

846
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 3: I was probably had a gummy that night. So I

847
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 3: was I give super spiritual when I'm on the gummies.

848
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 3: But that sounds good, Okay, go ahead.

849
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:15,240
Speaker 2: It was really good.

850
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 3: Just five milligrams a week. That's all I could do.

851
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 3: You know, if I try anything else, I'd be like, no, no, y'all,

852
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 3: come get me going to the hospital. Five miligran Yeah,

853
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 3: but understanding. Yeah. And and having people meet you at

854
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:30,919
Speaker 3: your work.

855
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 2: That's what I was.

856
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 1: Yes when you said that we were one of our

857
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 1: many nights at your Island Dollar in the King's Landing

858
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 1: room at the table you said you just hit you. You

859
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 1: probably was on the gummy there too. You was like,

860
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 1: meet me at my word and.

861
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 2: We were all like, wow, that's it. Yeah, that's it.

862
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 3: And and and anybody who can't do that, that doesn't

863
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 3: mean they're not worthy of you. That means that they

864
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:58,919
Speaker 3: need to eat the attempt try learn find out enough

865
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 3: about you to be to figure out what that is.

866
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 3: And that's not money because because you listen, a lot

867
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 3: of women, especially black women, and I might get in

868
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 3: trouble for saying this, but I will. In our society

869
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 3: right now, black women are making a lot more money

870
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 3: for the most part than black men. Right there are

871
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 3: a lot of black men who are successful, but for

872
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 3: the most part, black women are making the money. So

873
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 3: you if you can find love, if that man works,

874
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 3: you know, at whatever job and is a good man,

875
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 3: and it is good to you and honors and honors

876
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 3: the house and honor's white and does what he can

877
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 3: because his gift may not be your gift exactly. That

878
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 3: is okay. That's not somebody who's beneath you. That's somebody

879
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 3: who came to love you at your work, right, and

880
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 3: as long as he's secure in himself to know that, yep,

881
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 3: she makes most of the money. All I can pay

882
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,399
Speaker 3: is the light bill. As long as she's comfortable enough

883
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 3: to say, I'm gonna cover the mortgage and all the

884
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 3: other stuff. You've had a light build, baby, you can

885
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 3: take me to dinner and every now and then, it

886
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 3: is fine. Yeah, that's fine. Yeah, But that's so hard

887
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 3: for a lot of people to take in because that

888
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 3: means no, no, no, I need somebody to who is

889
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 3: I need?

890
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 4: They need to make five times more and I got

891
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:18,399
Speaker 4: to have that. I got to have. Don't keep your list.

892
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 4: God bless you, hope it haven't. Don't keep your list.

893
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 4: But when you talk about just someone to love you

894
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:29,320
Speaker 4: and support you. I know people who have who whose

895
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:34,919
Speaker 4: men can't touch what they make. But when you see

896
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 4: them together, that love, that.

897
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:40,439
Speaker 3: Support, that that I got you, babe, it's a beautiful thing.

898
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 2: It is, it is.

899
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:43,840
Speaker 1: I remember I was having a conversation with you and

900
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 1: I was going, I can admit that I had fallen

901
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:50,359
Speaker 1: under that, Like, Okay, I actually may have misunderstood what

902
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,840
Speaker 1: meet me at my worth meant. I thought, meet me

903
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,839
Speaker 1: at my work with meet me at my network network.

904
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 3: Right right now, not your network. May me at least

905
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 3: meet me at my network. Yeah. Yeah.

906
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 2: And I was talking to you.

907
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 1: I was like and Tyler, I was like, this is

908
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 1: this is this, and I've done this this, and You're

909
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,799
Speaker 1: like wa wait wait wait wait stop. He was like,

910
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 1: don't make it about money. And this is when I

911
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 1: was like, oh my gosh. It was like like it

912
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 1: just went off and I was like, I see what

913
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:17,399
Speaker 1: you're saying. You were like, Chris sits do the same thing.

914
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:19,799
Speaker 1: I would like, be doing all these things for someone

915
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:21,879
Speaker 1: or people around me, and I'm like they're not doing

916
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 1: I'm not getting anything in return, you know. And we

917
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 1: fall into that sometimes. And you said, but then I

918
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 1: thought about it. They can't do for me the way

919
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 1: I do. It's just like they can't. You got when

920
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:34,319
Speaker 1: you explained like that, if he is giving you all

921
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:35,720
Speaker 1: these other things.

922
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 2: Then that's something you work with. And I did.

923
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 1: I literally completely misconstrued what meet me at my worth

924
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,360
Speaker 1: end in that moment. But worth is more than that,

925
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 1: you know. And that's when I was like, Wow, this

926
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 1: is way deeper.

927
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 3: You got to remove the money from the situation because

928
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 3: it's just gonna cloud it. And then you have your

929
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 3: girlfriend and this friend saying he's doing this and he

930
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 3: ain't got that he did. You don't understand the love

931
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,879
Speaker 3: that we have for each other. And that is what

932
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 3: is important. And I'm telling you there are some good

933
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 3: men who can't meet you at your net worth. Yeah yeah.

934
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 3: And if you can find a man who is secure

935
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 3: enough within himself to stand in that space, yeah yeah.

936
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 3: I tell you the story. Oprah tells the story about

937
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,919
Speaker 3: her and stepmen. She was they were in Hawaii and

938
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 3: she was walking. This is years ago. She walked in

939
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 3: the store. He was behind her and no, I'll tell

940
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 3: you this story. This is because I was there for

941
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 3: this one. We were coming out of the color purple

942
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 3: premiere in New York and it's Tina Turner, Oprah and

943
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:44,399
Speaker 3: me and Gail. We're all kid in the car and well, listen,

944
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:46,359
Speaker 3: that's when I first knew. That's when I first knew

945
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:50,320
Speaker 3: something had shifted. Wow, because Oprah walks out in the

946
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 3: screaming Oprah, Oprah, Oprah, Tina walks out of Tina, Tina.

947
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 3: I go out of here, tyl or I go o.

948
00:42:56,120 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 3: This was very early on. So they're pushing into the

949
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 3: limo and I've turned back and Steedman, the security is

950
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 3: pushing him out of the way, not letting him in.

951
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 1: Wow.

952
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 3: I watched him tap the man on the shoulder and

953
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 3: say hey. He goes, oh, oh, I'm sorry, mister Graham,

954
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 3: and he let him in the car. But do you

955
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,720
Speaker 3: know when I saw that man, who's six foot six

956
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 3: in that situation, I went wow, look at the grace

957
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 3: and how he carried it. He didn't get a car

958
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 3: with the attitude. He wasn't mad. Which takes me back to

959
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 3: the store in Hawaii when when they were in the

960
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:34,839
Speaker 3: store and everybody swarmed around Oprah. He was watching protectively,

961
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 3: and after she was she was leaving the store, the

962
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 3: store owner, older person said to her. Listen, I watched

963
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 3: that man, How he Loves You. I watched that man

964
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 3: how his ore is all around you, making sure you're

965
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 3: okay and safe. So so and stepman does well in life. Yeah,

966
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:55,360
Speaker 3: but I don't know nobody doing well is.

967
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 2: Open hell, you know what I mean?

968
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, So it can't be about the money. Can't be

969
00:43:58,960 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 3: about the money.

970
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:01,800
Speaker 2: That was That was a good nugget that you gave.

971
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:03,839
Speaker 1: Me recently, And I was like, wow, because you do

972
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:06,280
Speaker 1: get caught up into what your girls are saying and what's.

973
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 3: Society because that's gonna but that's that's And if you

974
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 3: try to make it about the money, then it's always

975
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 3: going to be about the money, and the money is

976
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 3: you have to understand that when you start to make

977
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 3: money and do well, that becomes a part of the

978
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 3: perception of who you are, right And that's okay. Yeah,

979
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 3: that was the thing that bothered me about it only

980
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 3: sees my money, only sees my money, and I'm a

981
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 3: good person. I had to let all that go. Was like, well,

982
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 3: the money is a part of your person now, so

983
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 3: let that be. Wow, and that's okay, Yeah.

984
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:36,879
Speaker 1: It is now when you started making money, were talking

985
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 1: about money as a part of the person.

986
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 3: Listen, that's a whole nother podcast, the financial literacy. Yes, yes,

987
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 3: but go ahead, that's yeah.

988
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 1: Even like with like family and friends, what did you

989
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 1: go through when you start? Because that's the thing I

990
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 1: start to deal with now, you know. Just then titlement

991
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 1: or like gimme, gimmy, gimme and the random text messages

992
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 1: and you're like, I'm just waiting to ask.

993
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 3: I had yeah, because usually what happens is, you know,

994
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 3: they don't they don't talk to you forever, and then

995
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 3: they're like, hey, how you doing. You've been on my mind.

996
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 3: God told me to pray for you on my heart,

997
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 3: and I'm thinking, okay, ten nine eight, Can you send

998
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:15,359
Speaker 3: me thirty thousand dollars because I need Yeah? And then

999
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 3: I had another family member sent it, said and I

1000
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 3: was hurt by it. I said, listen, you sent me

1001
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 3: a text asking for thirty thousand dollars. That's offensive, Like

1002
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 3: call me see how I'm doing. Yes, And then and

1003
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 3: then I don't mind, you know, I don't mind giving

1004
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 3: you the money. Well, this family member got offended, so

1005
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 3: I'll never ask you for nothing else. I was just

1006
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 3: a well, I was just saying, how how impersonal.

1007
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,320
Speaker 2: The text is yeah, absolutely.

1008
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 3: A little while later, get another text, I need I

1009
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 3: need thirty thousand dollars the same person, and then the

1010
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:50,839
Speaker 3: follow up text was make it forty tyler, I kid

1011
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 3: you not. And I was hurt by the sense the

1012
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 3: fact that make it forty yeah, yes, just that it

1013
00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 3: was just so blatantly like I'm just the money, right Yeah.

1014
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 3: And I get to this place called it's this thing

1015
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 3: called compassion fatigue, where you just gift exhausted from giving,

1016
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 3: like and you and for me, I have to go

1017
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 3: away and pray and get myself back together because I

1018
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 3: get to get my face kind of place, you know

1019
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:16,879
Speaker 3: what I mean. So so I have to go back

1020
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 3: and get right with that. But having that, having you know,

1021
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:23,760
Speaker 3: family members, you know, that's crazy.

1022
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just wonder how you deal on your level

1023
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:30,759
Speaker 1: because nobody's calling me for thirty well.

1024
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 3: Right, right, so let's go back. Let's go back. But

1025
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:36,439
Speaker 3: you know what, I learned to accept them as who

1026
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 3: they are, and the family doesn't necessarily have to be

1027
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 3: the people that are your blood. So I started surrounding

1028
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 3: myself with people who genuinely cared about me. If we

1029
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 3: were on a boat on just some when we're in

1030
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 3: our groups on the trips, if we're on a boat,

1031
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 3: if we're on the island for you know, these people care. Yes,

1032
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 3: they can't pay for it, but they're there because they

1033
00:46:57,960 --> 00:46:59,319
Speaker 3: want to support you and care for you. And that

1034
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 3: it was more like family.

1035
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:01,279
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1036
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 3: So my family gets money, but they have to work

1037
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:14,799
Speaker 3: or they won't get money, right because I'm not the

1038
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 3: bank and I'm not the government. Yeah, and I think

1039
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 3: it's important that people work. So working is so important.

1040
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 2: I agree.

1041
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 1: Was there ever a moment where you had survivors rem

1042
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 1: worries where you the only person in your family that

1043
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 1: has made it, where you feel like, no, I feel

1044
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:34,400
Speaker 1: bad that I'm the one that made it and everybody

1045
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 1: else did.

1046
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 2: And so I got it. I have to do these things.

1047
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:40,800
Speaker 3: First year I made money. I went from being dead broke.

1048
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:42,360
Speaker 3: I was twenty eight years old. I made one hundred

1049
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 3: thirty thousand dollars. I was said, oh my god, one

1050
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 3: hundred and thirty thousand dollars. Got to the end of

1051
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 3: the year, had nothing to pay my taxes because I'd

1052
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 3: given it all the way. Wow, that's so much guilt

1053
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 3: that I've given it to all the family.

1054
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 2: All friends.

1055
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 3: Next year, I think I've made a million and a half.

1056
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 3: Same thing happened again. Wow, next year I made seven million.

1057
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:04,720
Speaker 3: Same thing happened again. Because I had so much guilt,

1058
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 3: because I had and I think this is something that

1059
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:09,399
Speaker 3: we as black people carry because of what we've been through.

1060
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 3: And when you have you think, oh my god, I

1061
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 3: need to bring everybody else up with me. That's a

1062
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 3: beautiful thought. But in the beginning that's bullshit. Take that bullshit,

1063
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:22,959
Speaker 3: get take that out of your mind, because I'm gonna

1064
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,359
Speaker 3: tell you right now. If you have a boat that

1065
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 3: can help you get to one from this place to

1066
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 3: that place so that you can get a bigger boat

1067
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:32,879
Speaker 3: and you can only take two or three people, don't

1068
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:35,320
Speaker 3: let everybody on that boat. And you got to be

1069
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 3: also careful because when you put too many people on

1070
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 3: the boat, there's some trying to put holes in it

1071
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 3: because they wanted to sink because they don't like that

1072
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:47,799
Speaker 3: you're sailing. Yeah, so you have to be careful, right

1073
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 3: or there's some that are putting holes in the boat

1074
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 3: because they don't feel that they're worthy of it. And

1075
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:56,399
Speaker 3: I've had that too, where I was trying to pull

1076
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 3: people up to come on, come on, this as far

1077
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 3: as we can. We've been together all these years. We

1078
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:02,359
Speaker 3: can make this happen. It's gonna be wonderful. It's gonna

1079
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 3: be great. But the whole thing that I had to

1080
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:09,839
Speaker 3: realize is that some people cannot survive at certain altitudes.

1081
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 3: So if you're pulling somebody up a hill, who when

1082
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 3: you get to ten thousand feet they can't breathe, You're

1083
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:18,320
Speaker 3: going to kill them. Yeah, so it's okay to leave

1084
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:21,799
Speaker 3: them there until they learned the conditioning of what it

1085
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 3: takes to be at ten thousand feet.

1086
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:25,759
Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, that's good, that's good.

1087
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 3: It's true.

1088
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 2: I'm going through a season. I just did an episode

1089
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 2: called Purging Season and season two and it was just about.

1090
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 3: Say that again. I'm sorry, Purging season season one?

1091
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, season one. I did an episode called Purging

1092
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:41,240
Speaker 2: Season and it's literally like God was just removing people

1093
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:43,799
Speaker 2: like friends, family. It was just like, Lord, what is

1094
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 2: happening right now?

1095
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:47,319
Speaker 1: And you're starting to see that, like you said, people

1096
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 1: can't breathe the altitude that you're going to, or you

1097
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 1: did a speech about it. I think it was a

1098
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:55,839
Speaker 1: commencement speech on we talked about rocket boosters. Yeah, and

1099
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:57,759
Speaker 1: I was like when you said that, That's exactly what

1100
00:49:57,880 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 1: came to mind when I thought about, Lord, what is

1101
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 1: this that you're taking me through right now? Because I

1102
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 1: felt like I was losing people I was really close to.

1103
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:06,279
Speaker 1: But everybody can't go.

1104
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:08,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, and you've ever seen a bunch of

1105
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 3: kids on America around it goes faster and faster and

1106
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 3: faster and faster and faster. What you find is that

1107
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:16,279
Speaker 3: the people who are closest to the center can hold

1108
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 3: the tightest. The ones who are out toward the who

1109
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 3: are holding on are getting the most of the g

1110
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:25,479
Speaker 3: forces its to they can't handle it. Yeah, so those

1111
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:27,319
Speaker 3: people have fallen. So I call it the spend. There

1112
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 3: is sometimes in your life you'll start to spend and

1113
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 3: you're spinning up to the next level and people start

1114
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:35,720
Speaker 3: to fall off. And let me tell you something, it hurts.

1115
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 3: It's lonely, especially when it's somebody that you really really

1116
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:42,799
Speaker 3: loved and had a great time with and wish that

1117
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 3: they could be there with you. But you have to

1118
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 3: understand and realize that that toxicity is poisoned to your wings.

1119
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:56,839
Speaker 3: It will cause you to crash. So you have to

1120
00:50:56,840 --> 00:51:00,839
Speaker 3: be able to say I love you, I'm sorry this

1121
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:02,880
Speaker 3: does not work for me. Yeah, then you get the

1122
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 3: shit all you boogie you changing what's Oh no, now

1123
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 3: you got all this and you don't want none of

1124
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 3: that matters. Yeah, walk through the pain of the Loneliess

1125
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 3: come and tell you something. The higher you go, the

1126
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:15,360
Speaker 3: smaller that circle gets.

1127
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:18,319
Speaker 2: You're so right. Yeah, I'm just getting started.

1128
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 3: I see it, and it's okay. It's okay because I

1129
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 3: promise you, if you ask God to give you what

1130
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 3: you need, they show up.

1131
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 2: They do.

1132
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, show up, and I have what I need. I

1133
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:31,360
Speaker 1: do like, I really have a good core. And everybody

1134
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 1: that's around me, I know they love me. They support

1135
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:36,799
Speaker 1: me wholeheartedly. We all have our own thing going on.

1136
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:39,800
Speaker 1: And it's no jealousy, and that's what that's.

1137
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 3: What you want, because jealousy will show up in ways

1138
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:47,279
Speaker 3: that you didn't even expect it. And people who've been

1139
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:50,840
Speaker 3: right up under you as long as you didn't exceed

1140
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 3: what they thought you could be, the minute you start

1141
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:57,360
Speaker 3: to go higher than they believed you could go, it's ugly.

1142
00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, absolutely, Yeah, that's a real thing. And it

1143
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:03,360
Speaker 1: is lonely. It is they say it's lonely at the

1144
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 1: top of.

1145
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:05,879
Speaker 3: It, not lying, but here's what I had to learn

1146
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 3: how to do. I had to learn to get all

1147
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 3: of my friends. Nobody can give you all everything you need.

1148
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 3: So all of my friends were brought something. It's like

1149
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:19,359
Speaker 3: a like you have a pot luck where you can

1150
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:22,720
Speaker 3: bring everybody brings it something to eat. And some people

1151
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:25,239
Speaker 3: may be able to bring fruit, something, bring vegetables something,

1152
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 3: bring chicken something. So I had all of my friends

1153
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 3: bring me something different, yes, so that I have all

1154
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:34,280
Speaker 3: that I need. You can't get it from one person.

1155
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 2: Absolutely, It's so good. I love that.

1156
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:41,920
Speaker 1: Denor had actually spoke on something recently that piggybacks off

1157
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:43,360
Speaker 1: of what you said. She goes a lot of times

1158
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:45,359
Speaker 1: when God brings people in your life, you're like, why

1159
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:47,719
Speaker 1: am I not getting what I'm putting into this? Like

1160
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 1: I'm pooring, I'm pooring, I'm pouring into this person, but

1161
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:53,240
Speaker 1: I'm not getting it back. And she said that sometimes

1162
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:56,319
Speaker 1: that person isn't putting your life to pour back into you.

1163
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:58,920
Speaker 1: You're on an assignment to them, and it's somebody else

1164
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:00,240
Speaker 1: that's going to bring you what you need.

1165
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 3: That's that's your one right, that's exactly right, and and

1166
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:07,800
Speaker 3: you have to understand that when it's your time to poor.

1167
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 3: Do that, yes, and hopefully that seed that you're watering

1168
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:18,840
Speaker 3: will start to grow in that person. Because I've seen

1169
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:22,759
Speaker 3: this like in you, like seeing you come up to

1170
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 3: this place of like look I poured it into a

1171
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:28,279
Speaker 3: now look, And I've got thousands of those examples in

1172
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:30,399
Speaker 3: the studios, like I poured in look at him now.

1173
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 3: And it warms me so much because when you're pouring

1174
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:38,759
Speaker 3: poor with pure intention, yes, and then you don't worry

1175
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 3: about being hurt if if it doesn't work out. Just

1176
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:46,240
Speaker 3: just be pure and your intention. Don't let people change

1177
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 3: your intention, even if they give you their ask to

1178
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:51,280
Speaker 3: kiss after you were trying to help them. Don't stop

1179
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 3: who you are going and help the next person, you know.

1180
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:57,959
Speaker 3: So that is so important, so important. That's really good.

1181
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:01,760
Speaker 3: It's really good. Yeah.

1182
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:04,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, she's been dropping some nuggets. I'm like, birl,

1183
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:07,279
Speaker 2: God is really talking to you and me. I love it.

1184
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 1: So I want to go back to some of your journey.

1185
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:13,400
Speaker 1: You started off in the chilling circuit with media plays.

1186
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 1: You worked you way up to owning your own studio.

1187
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:19,880
Speaker 1: At the time that you were like doing the smaller place,

1188
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:22,719
Speaker 1: what was it for like even actually, I want to

1189
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:26,799
Speaker 1: go back to when you decided, like I, what was

1190
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:29,400
Speaker 1: that in between phases like right before things went crazy,

1191
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 1: like when you were doing The Smaller Place, What was

1192
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 1: that like?

1193
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:36,279
Speaker 3: There was no in between phases? Was twenty eight years old?

1194
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 3: That was twenty seven, Broke Homeless twenty eight. I had

1195
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:43,839
Speaker 3: been trying to do the show for seven years, and

1196
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 3: in nineteen ninety eight the show took off. So it

1197
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 3: was famine, famine, famine, struggles, struggle, desert, desert, desert, Jesus.

1198
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 3: Then all of a sudden, it was abundance. It was

1199
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 3: the abundant rainbow. So I went from ninety when I

1200
00:54:57,520 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 3: started in ninety eight. That's why I feel like I

1201
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:00,800
Speaker 3: missed twelve years of min life though I was working

1202
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:05,439
Speaker 3: so hard ninety eight at twenty eight, and I came.

1203
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 3: I kind of came to myself at forty, like I

1204
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:13,320
Speaker 3: woke up going, whoh, you did it? But you missed

1205
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:18,400
Speaker 3: everything because there's so many of those moments I don't remember.

1206
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 3: I was so laser focused on making the success work.

1207
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 3: And also I was afraid of going back that we

1208
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:29,759
Speaker 3: talked about earlier. I didn't want to be broke again.

1209
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:31,799
Speaker 3: I didn't want to, you know, I need to have

1210
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:33,760
Speaker 3: my medicine for my mother. That's how it all started.

1211
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 3: I just need to if I lower just My prayer was, Lord,

1212
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 3: just let me make enough money take care of her.

1213
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 3: And I had millions, and it still wasn't enough in

1214
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:44,760
Speaker 3: my mind. So I was still going really really really

1215
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:49,799
Speaker 3: hard until she died. When she died, it had reset me,

1216
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:54,800
Speaker 3: like everything I was pushing for was gone. Yeah, but

1217
00:55:56,480 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 3: those those times were so such a blur because I

1218
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:04,719
Speaker 3: just worked all the way through.

1219
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:06,239
Speaker 2: Do you have any regrets?

1220
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 3: Sometimes I do because I look I feel like I'm

1221
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:15,480
Speaker 3: twelve years younger, because I went into this silo of

1222
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 3: working and I came out twelve years later of like, okay,

1223
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 3: oh wait, this is what the world is, this is

1224
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 3: what wait people, well, they were enjoying themselves at these

1225
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:30,759
Speaker 3: parties and oscars and award shows. I wouldn't you know

1226
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:32,799
Speaker 3: how I would walk in and out. I was like,

1227
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:34,359
Speaker 3: I'm not nope, this is work.

1228
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:34,920
Speaker 2: Back to work.

1229
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:37,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're good. Back to work. Literally, So I feel

1230
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:40,440
Speaker 3: like I missed twelve years of my life. Even though

1231
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:44,759
Speaker 3: now I look back at some wonderful things happened, I'm

1232
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:47,240
Speaker 3: telling you I missed them all. Like I'll see photos

1233
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:50,720
Speaker 3: or somebody remind us you remember when I go, wow, you're.

1234
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, yeah, that's amazing.

1235
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 3: But instead of being fifty three, I'm forty one. There

1236
00:56:58,120 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 3: you go, there you go, there you go.

1237
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:00,560
Speaker 2: I love it.

1238
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:06,240
Speaker 1: What does a billionaire like you who has a busy schedule?

1239
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:07,880
Speaker 2: What do you do for yourself?

1240
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 3: Like?

1241
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 2: What do you you know? A lot of players say like, Ike,

1242
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:11,799
Speaker 2: this is my meantime, this is what I do. What

1243
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 2: do you do for fun?

1244
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 1: What do you do to like take care of toyland

1245
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 1: of your body? I know you work out or you

1246
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 1: like to travel, but like, what are things that you do?

1247
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 1: Because a lot of people like you're working all the time,

1248
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 1: when do you have time for just you?

1249
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 3: You know what? People think that I'm a lot busier

1250
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 3: than I am. But because we work so fast, because

1251
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:31,919
Speaker 3: I building bricks, I don't try to kill myself like

1252
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 3: like I would have back then. But now no I building.

1253
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 3: I'm gonna work three months, really really hard, NonStop. I'm

1254
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 3: gonna exhaust myself and I'm gonna take two months off.

1255
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go to my place in Wyoming or Colorado.

1256
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 3: I'm gonna walk through the woods and be in nature.

1257
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 3: I'm gonna talk to God. I'm gonna go down to

1258
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 3: the island. I'm going to cry, I'm gonna pray. I'm

1259
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 3: gonna lick my wounds to see who who stayed, who

1260
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 3: didn't work? Where am I hurt? Am I okay? Am

1261
00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 3: I feeling loved? Am I feeling supported? I check in

1262
00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:01,880
Speaker 3: with mysel So I talk to God about it. It's

1263
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:06,440
Speaker 3: so important. It's so important. But the biggest thing that

1264
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 3: I do, because I can do it every day that

1265
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 3: I'm working, it's just build airplanes, build modern airplanes. Yes,

1266
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 3: me and my me and my son will sit there

1267
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 3: and just he's loving it. We're you know, it's just

1268
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:22,280
Speaker 3: it's the simplest thing. But to build something that we'll

1269
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 3: be able to fly. Yeah, I feel like I'm teaching

1270
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:27,320
Speaker 3: my son how to literally fly.

1271
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 1: Wow.

1272
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 3: So so those moments are really beautiful. And this kid,

1273
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:34,880
Speaker 3: you see, you know, he's he's amazing.

1274
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, brilliant. Oh my gosh. I can't wait to

1275
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 2: see where he goes and what he decides to do.

1276
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:42,760
Speaker 2: His life is gonna be amazing.

1277
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, And you know, whatever it is, I just want

1278
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:48,440
Speaker 3: him to be the best at it and be happy.

1279
00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:49,040
Speaker 2: I love it.

1280
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:51,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, just be happy son. Yeah, because right now it's

1281
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 3: a race car driver, astronaut and a track and field

1282
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:59,000
Speaker 3: runner and a comedian. So we had a business meeting

1283
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:01,000
Speaker 3: in my office a few weeks ago and I was

1284
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 3: asking him. You know, he was in the room when

1285
00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:06,240
Speaker 3: I was having all these meetings, and he comes, Okay,

1286
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 3: Papa's my turn to meet. I have see what do

1287
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 3: you want to talk about? I want to talk about

1288
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 3: my life in my career and what I'm going to do.

1289
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:14,000
Speaker 3: It's like, okay, eight years old.

1290
00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:15,560
Speaker 2: I love it.

1291
00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:17,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I recorded it and I can't wait to

1292
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:19,440
Speaker 3: show him when he's older, like, this is what you

1293
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:20,360
Speaker 3: wanted to talk about.

1294
00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:24,840
Speaker 1: That That is amazing. It's amazing when you are dealing

1295
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:27,360
Speaker 1: with things. Mental health is really big. Like a black

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Speaker 1: community is like really honing in on it and understanding

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Speaker 1: it more. We're more open to therapy. Who does someone

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Speaker 1: like Tyler Perry talk to. You have someone that you

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Speaker 1: can like say, hey, this is what I'm going through.

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Speaker 3: Jesus h Yeah, no, Oprah TD Jake's you know, I

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00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 3: have Michelle Obama. I have really good people who have

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Speaker 3: been through some things. I used to talk to Sicily

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00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 3: Tyson you know about things just that level of history

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00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:57,560
Speaker 3: and lessons that she's learned. And Sidney Poiitier. I went

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00:59:57,600 --> 01:00:01,000
Speaker 3: to the Masters. Yes, I was flying to to Africa,

1306
01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:02,640
Speaker 3: and I invited both of them to fly with me.

1307
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:05,520
Speaker 3: So I literally sat at their feet listening to their stories.

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01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:09,040
Speaker 3: You know, Clarence Avon died a couple of days ago,

1309
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 3: and he just was He was the black golf he

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01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:17,360
Speaker 3: was absolutely and any time you needed anything or something

1311
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Speaker 3: put together this or presidents or that, he was the man.

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Speaker 3: So you know, I had a chance to spend time

1313
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Speaker 3: with him. That that's just Quincy Jones, these guys, Harry

1314
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Speaker 3: Belafante on the phone with him. That's what I mean

1315
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Speaker 3: that those those are the people. But all our legends

1316
01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:36,880
Speaker 3: are getting out of here. So so I'm hoping that,

1317
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Speaker 3: you know, more of us will be open to sharing.

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Speaker 3: You know, when I talked to Jay jay Z, he

1319
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Speaker 3: he is one of those people. It's like, listen, I

1320
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:50,040
Speaker 3: got the information, come hit it, you know. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: but as so as mental health goes, I tell you

1322
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Speaker 3: the main problem. That's how you look at the tobacco crisis.

1323
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Speaker 3: When everybody was talking about how cigarettes were in the beginning,

1324
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Speaker 3: they were saying, but people made billions of dollars on it.

1325
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Speaker 3: Then you look at all the other opioid crisis, crack cocaine. Right,

1326
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Speaker 3: there's another crisis that is happening that is affecting people's

1327
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Speaker 3: mental health in ways that nobody's talking about. And I'm

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Speaker 3: hoping one day that it comes crashing down, like the

1329
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Speaker 3: tobacco industry, like the like the opioid addiction industry, Perdue pharma,

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Speaker 3: and that is social media.

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Speaker 2: I know you're going to say that, Oh my gosh,

1332
01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 2: you are right.

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Speaker 3: If you don't believe me, try to try to turn

1334
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:35,320
Speaker 3: it off and put it down.

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Speaker 1: I pick up my phone randomly, like right, I'll be

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01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:41,400
Speaker 1: doing something then before I know what, I'm just scrolling

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Speaker 1: on Instagram.

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Speaker 2: It's like a drug.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and you're being fed whatever whatever algorithm you chose,

1340
01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:52,000
Speaker 3: because it's attached to where you go, where they are

1341
01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:56,560
Speaker 3: tracking everything you're doing, and whatever mood you're in you're in,

1342
01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:00,720
Speaker 3: that's what it's going to enhance. Yeah, So if you're

1343
01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:03,160
Speaker 3: a person who's already struggling, sad and depressed and dealing

1344
01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:05,400
Speaker 3: with some things, it's going to be really, really tough

1345
01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:10,120
Speaker 3: to come up higher when you're constantly being fed things

1346
01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:12,040
Speaker 3: that make you sad and depressed. I'm not talking about

1347
01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:14,440
Speaker 3: clinical Depression'm talking about people who are sad and depression.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, No, I used to.

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01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:19,960
Speaker 1: I went through a phase where I had body dysmorphia

1350
01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:22,120
Speaker 1: because I would look on Instagram and I would see

1351
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Speaker 1: all these perfect bodies, whether it was plastic surgery bodies

1352
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Speaker 1: or just.

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Speaker 2: Everything is perfect. Everybody's just showing the highlight reel. That's

1354
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Speaker 2: all you're seeing. You never seeing the downtimes.

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Speaker 1: And I'll try to be more transparent with that because

1356
01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:34,240
Speaker 1: people just think our life is so perfect.

1357
01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:36,200
Speaker 2: I'm like, no, it's nuts.

1358
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Speaker 3: And listen. I know a lot of those folks, and

1359
01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:42,480
Speaker 3: I'd be like, this your life for real, because that

1360
01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:45,600
Speaker 3: ain't what you're really going through. So it's just like,

1361
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Speaker 3: stop with the madness, stop with the madness. So trying

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Speaker 3: to give this perfect image that everything's perfect, because there

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01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:55,800
Speaker 3: are people who are really struggling, who are really looking

1364
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Speaker 3: to these images and thinking this is how my life

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01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:02,360
Speaker 3: should be. Now. If it's aspirational, great, but if it's

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Speaker 3: something that you know, damn well, you got thirty eight

1367
01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:08,080
Speaker 3: filters on two thousands, three touches and forty eight something

1368
01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:09,800
Speaker 3: else to make sure it looks great.

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Speaker 2: Come on, I was that girl?

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Speaker 3: Go ahead, digital botox.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all the things.

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Speaker 3: I worry about it for my son who's not on it,

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Speaker 3: who doesn't see it. He doesn't you know, he reads books,

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Speaker 3: So I don't want him to be so unaware of it.

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Speaker 3: But I want him to know who he is before

1376
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:32,120
Speaker 3: the world starts to try to tell him who he is.

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Speaker 2: That's so good. I love it. I love it.

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Speaker 1: So when we talk about God and aligning your vision

1379
01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:41,919
Speaker 1: with God, how do you create the space for God

1380
01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:43,800
Speaker 1: to really like talk to you and say, hey, I

1381
01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:46,200
Speaker 1: know you said. Sometimes things get shaken up when you

1382
01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:47,880
Speaker 1: start to try to go against what God is saying,

1383
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:50,680
Speaker 1: maybe because you see something totally different.

1384
01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:52,720
Speaker 3: Because your vision is not aligned. And I've learned to

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01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:55,120
Speaker 3: surrender to God's vision. I don't try to align have

1386
01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:58,720
Speaker 3: him aligned to my vision. I let the opposite happen.

1387
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Speaker 3: I'm like, Okay, where are we going? What are we doing?

1388
01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:06,160
Speaker 3: And I've learned so much God to trust you that

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Speaker 3: this is the way I'm going to go because I

1390
01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:12,400
Speaker 3: don't want the resistance and the fighting of the other stuff.

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Speaker 3: It's just to surrender to it. But again, I keep

1392
01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:18,280
Speaker 3: going back to social media, because it is so hard

1393
01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:22,240
Speaker 3: to hear from God in noise. And if you are

1394
01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:25,760
Speaker 3: the type of person that is seeking advice from every

1395
01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:30,920
Speaker 3: friend you have online, every Instagram, every TikTok, if you're

1396
01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:34,560
Speaker 3: seeking advice, how can you know the still small voice

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Speaker 3: that I believe is God. That's why I have to

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01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:41,320
Speaker 3: remove myself and not be on anything digital and just

1399
01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:43,880
Speaker 3: listen to see what I hear. Walking in nature is

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Speaker 3: the best way. I was out in Colorado and the

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01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:51,720
Speaker 3: wind just whispered past. I heard it. I thought it

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01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:54,280
Speaker 3: was traffic coming, because we're up on this mountain. I

1403
01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:55,720
Speaker 3: thought it was traffic. I asked to God, as is

1404
01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:57,800
Speaker 3: that the traffic is said, No, that's the wind that's coming.

1405
01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:01,160
Speaker 3: And I heard it come that over the mouth, down

1406
01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:03,520
Speaker 3: through the valley and come up over it, and and

1407
01:05:03,520 --> 01:05:06,560
Speaker 3: and and for me, that's like I how I think

1408
01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:09,320
Speaker 3: God will speak, like, they'll be over there, just a

1409
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:13,240
Speaker 3: little bit of something that you that you missed. Wow,

1410
01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:16,000
Speaker 3: and then there's another something. Okay, you missed. You missed

1411
01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:18,720
Speaker 3: the acorn, so now the branch has to fall. Okay,

1412
01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:20,600
Speaker 3: you missed the branch. Now the trees got to fall

1413
01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:23,520
Speaker 3: on you. Okay, you still miss that. The whole forest

1414
01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:26,520
Speaker 3: is burning. So I've learned to just when I see

1415
01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:28,320
Speaker 3: the acorn, I'm gonna be like, oh no, no, no, no,

1416
01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:29,840
Speaker 3: let me get Let me get that, because I don't

1417
01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:32,000
Speaker 3: want the tree of the forest. Just give me the acorn.

1418
01:05:32,680 --> 01:05:34,720
Speaker 1: Oh that's good, because yeah, the whole forest be burning

1419
01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:38,560
Speaker 1: around me because I'm like, no, I see it this way,

1420
01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:41,760
Speaker 1: like I need to get better as surrendering, I always

1421
01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:44,120
Speaker 1: ask for God to order myself, but I still am

1422
01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:47,120
Speaker 1: very much like, Okay, this is the way I see.

1423
01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:49,120
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna go this way until God is like, girl,

1424
01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:50,800
Speaker 2: get yeah.

1425
01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:53,240
Speaker 3: God, God in the Bible says, my thoughts of you

1426
01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:56,120
Speaker 3: are pure and of a good report, and that you

1427
01:05:56,240 --> 01:06:00,320
Speaker 3: be in health and prosper as your soul prospers. Right,

1428
01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:05,680
Speaker 3: So all of that's good. Right, So if your vision

1429
01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:10,040
Speaker 3: isn't aligned with what's good, then I don't know how

1430
01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:12,960
Speaker 3: that can be. God, Right, that's so good, and what's

1431
01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:14,720
Speaker 3: good for you may not be the thing that you're

1432
01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:16,040
Speaker 3: supposed to do at the time.

1433
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:17,480
Speaker 2: And that's normally would I be doing.

1434
01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:23,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I always do things that I don't mean be doing.

1435
01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:26,040
Speaker 1: And God's like, girl, we've been through this before. Why

1436
01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:27,320
Speaker 1: are you still doing the same thing.

1437
01:06:27,840 --> 01:06:30,240
Speaker 3: But let me tell you something. I really didn't understand

1438
01:06:30,360 --> 01:06:32,760
Speaker 3: the love of God until I had a child. Wow,

1439
01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:35,600
Speaker 3: And if God loves us more than I love my child,

1440
01:06:35,600 --> 01:06:38,960
Speaker 3: and I can't even wrap my brain around that because this,

1441
01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:42,040
Speaker 3: and he does because this. When I see him making

1442
01:06:42,040 --> 01:06:44,520
Speaker 3: a mistake or when I see him going the wrong,

1443
01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:47,800
Speaker 3: doing something wrong, I'm like, Okay, how do I correct him?

1444
01:06:48,320 --> 01:06:49,800
Speaker 3: How do I get him on the straight narrow? And

1445
01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:52,200
Speaker 3: I'm going to choose the level of correction based on

1446
01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:53,640
Speaker 3: how hard he's going at it.

1447
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:57,640
Speaker 2: Yep, yeah, yeah, that's good. I love that. I love it.

1448
01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:01,280
Speaker 1: So we talked about you having vision as a little boy,

1449
01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:04,600
Speaker 1: So as an adult, what do you once you have

1450
01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:06,760
Speaker 1: that vision? How did how do you decide a God,

1451
01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:08,800
Speaker 1: I'm going to partner with you to bring this to life?

1452
01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:12,320
Speaker 1: Is it through prayer, through meditation, or just always keeping

1453
01:07:12,360 --> 01:07:13,040
Speaker 1: him involved?

1454
01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:17,240
Speaker 3: It's his vision. So you you riding a law he

1455
01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:20,640
Speaker 3: gave it. Yeah you ain't. You ain't in partnership. It's

1456
01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:24,160
Speaker 3: his vision for your life. So it's it's it's surrendering

1457
01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:27,480
Speaker 3: to where is this taking me? That's the thing, like,

1458
01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:29,320
Speaker 3: where is this taking me? And how? That's why I'm

1459
01:07:29,320 --> 01:07:31,480
Speaker 3: saying the most frustrating part of my early life was

1460
01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:34,000
Speaker 3: having all these visions and not seeing the past. Yea,

1461
01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:38,000
Speaker 3: So I could have did a million plays and never

1462
01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:42,480
Speaker 3: saw anybody ever saw never. God had to line all

1463
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:45,320
Speaker 3: of that up for it to start to work. Wow,

1464
01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:48,080
Speaker 3: And I had to be willing to get in the

1465
01:07:48,120 --> 01:07:51,040
Speaker 3: middle of it and go hard. That's why I missed

1466
01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:53,840
Speaker 3: those twelve years, because I just I was in the will.

1467
01:07:55,360 --> 01:07:59,680
Speaker 3: In the will yeah yeah, still yeah, still. But I'm

1468
01:07:59,720 --> 01:08:01,640
Speaker 3: enjoyed my life a lot more now. I'm enjoying them.

1469
01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:04,080
Speaker 3: I'm taking the moments now. I was just at an

1470
01:08:04,120 --> 01:08:05,840
Speaker 3: age where you know that's running hard.

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01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:09,880
Speaker 1: I love you in life, see yeah, happy and enjoying.

1472
01:08:09,960 --> 01:08:13,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, wearing nice clothes, going concerts. You know, got some

1473
01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:22,240
Speaker 3: blame things I never bought before. But yeah, yep, had

1474
01:08:22,280 --> 01:08:24,880
Speaker 3: my Soups suits, my Steve Hobbins suits back in the

1475
01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:30,519
Speaker 3: day I was clean. They have my rabbit ja They

1476
01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:32,120
Speaker 3: told me it was a mink, but it was a

1477
01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:36,000
Speaker 3: rabbit when I bought it. A Green Briar bought a

1478
01:08:36,040 --> 01:08:38,680
Speaker 3: Green I did. I wanted that store still there. I

1479
01:08:38,680 --> 01:08:39,760
Speaker 3: need to go by this store just.

1480
01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:44,400
Speaker 2: It probably is. It is hilarious. Tyler, thank you so much.

1481
01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:46,439
Speaker 2: This is no I appreciate you.

1482
01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:48,760
Speaker 3: I am beyond proud of you. Thank you, so so

1483
01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:51,519
Speaker 3: proud of thank you. Looking at you come through all

1484
01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:53,640
Speaker 3: of this, and I was right there with you to

1485
01:08:53,720 --> 01:08:56,080
Speaker 3: see it. Yeah, see it. Look at you.

1486
01:08:56,360 --> 01:08:59,000
Speaker 1: It's crazy when you wake up in here, You're like

1487
01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:01,800
Speaker 1: when those doors and walk in here, I'm like, this

1488
01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:02,320
Speaker 1: is my life.

1489
01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:04,840
Speaker 2: This is my life. Yeah yeah, and it feels so good.

1490
01:09:05,000 --> 01:09:05,840
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1491
01:09:05,880 --> 01:09:09,840
Speaker 2: If it's things, thank you. I appreciate you coming today.

1492
01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:14,400
Speaker 1: At the close of the show, we do what is

1493
01:09:14,439 --> 01:09:18,200
Speaker 1: called positive outcomes, where our viewers actually write into us

1494
01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:19,000
Speaker 1: and we're going.

1495
01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:19,880
Speaker 2: To give them some advice.

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01:09:20,280 --> 01:09:23,519
Speaker 1: So our listener letter today says, Hi, Crystal, thank you

1497
01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:25,639
Speaker 1: for taking the time to help me. Lately, I've been

1498
01:09:25,640 --> 01:09:28,160
Speaker 1: feeling like I am stuck. It's like I'm being pushed

1499
01:09:28,160 --> 01:09:30,360
Speaker 1: to bigger and greater things, but I feel like I'm

1500
01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:33,880
Speaker 1: getting in my own way. My fear and insecurity keeps

1501
01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:36,840
Speaker 1: holding me back, and I feel my self battle with

1502
01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:39,280
Speaker 1: the fear of others saying who does she think she is?

1503
01:09:39,640 --> 01:09:41,719
Speaker 2: By fully stepping into whatever it greater?

1504
01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:45,120
Speaker 1: Is the best way I can describe it is that

1505
01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:47,360
Speaker 1: feeling when I'm on a boat and God has called

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Speaker 1: me to the water, But my fear of drowning is

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Speaker 1: greater than my faith that God will help me float.

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Speaker 1: So I'm just standing at the edge of the boat,

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Speaker 1: not jumping. How can I get myself to jump?

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Speaker 3: Go back and read again, Read again?

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Speaker 1: Okay, Hi Crystal, thank you for taking the time to

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Speaker 1: help me. Lately, I've been feeling like I am stuck.

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Speaker 3: It's like I'm being problem number one. I have been

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01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:15,320
Speaker 3: feeling like I am stuck. She's speaking that, I have

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01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:18,840
Speaker 3: been feeling like I am stuck. So you speak things

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Speaker 3: into existence, power of life, and destin in the tongue.

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Speaker 3: I have been feeling like I am stuck, rather than

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Speaker 3: I am not stuck. God, It's gonna make a way.

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Speaker 3: I am not stuck going What's there something else? She said?

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Speaker 1: She says, it's like I'm being pushed to bigger and

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Speaker 1: greater things, but I feel like I'm getting in my

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Speaker 1: own way.

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Speaker 3: It's like I'm being pushed. No, I am being pushed

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01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:45,920
Speaker 3: to bigger and greater things, but I am getting in

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01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:49,360
Speaker 3: my way and understanding your own words, here's here when

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01:10:49,400 --> 01:10:52,280
Speaker 3: you maybe you give them the answers to yourself. I

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01:10:52,360 --> 01:10:54,559
Speaker 3: am getting in my own way? Well, why what is

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01:10:54,600 --> 01:10:57,000
Speaker 3: your motivation? Why are you getting in your own way?

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01:10:57,120 --> 01:10:58,880
Speaker 3: What did mama say? What did daddy say? What they

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01:10:58,880 --> 01:11:00,920
Speaker 3: say at school? What did what did the little girl?

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01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:03,400
Speaker 3: And you deal with that makes you get into the

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Speaker 3: way of the successful woman that's trying to figure it

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01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:08,040
Speaker 3: all out. So you've got to go back and undo

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01:11:08,120 --> 01:11:11,479
Speaker 3: some of those voices. And every time you hear something negative.

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Speaker 3: When I was coming through all this stuff, every time

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01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:14,800
Speaker 3: I would hear something negative, be like, Nope, I'm not

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Speaker 3: letting it in because I believe I can do this.

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01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:18,320
Speaker 3: God said, I can do this. This is going to

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Speaker 3: be okay, It's all going to work out every time.

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Speaker 3: Don't let negative voices in your head become your reality

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01:11:26,479 --> 01:11:28,639
Speaker 3: because they will. They will.

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Speaker 2: That is so true, she is.

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01:11:30,680 --> 01:11:33,000
Speaker 1: And then she said, my fear and insecurity he was

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01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:35,920
Speaker 1: holding me back. I feel myself battle with the fear

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01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:38,120
Speaker 1: of other people, saying, who does she think she is

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01:11:38,160 --> 01:11:39,639
Speaker 1: about fully stepping into.

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01:11:39,439 --> 01:11:43,639
Speaker 3: That my fear and is holding my fear is holding

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01:11:43,640 --> 01:11:46,759
Speaker 3: me back. Here's something you have to understand about fear.

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01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:52,440
Speaker 3: Fear and excitement can mimic the same emotions in you. Wow,

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01:11:52,680 --> 01:11:57,599
Speaker 3: so you can be excited, but you think you're afraid. Yes,

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01:11:58,080 --> 01:12:03,400
Speaker 3: so you have to be clear about what you're identifying, right, yeah, yeah.

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01:12:03,479 --> 01:12:06,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, good Wow, you helping me, my goodness?

1553
01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:09,360
Speaker 1: And it says the best way I can describe it

1554
01:12:09,400 --> 01:12:10,880
Speaker 1: is that I feel like I'm on a boat and

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01:12:10,880 --> 01:12:12,800
Speaker 1: God has called me to the water. But my fear

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01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:15,360
Speaker 1: here goes fear again of drowning is greater than my

1557
01:12:15,439 --> 01:12:17,880
Speaker 1: faith that God will help me float Yep, where did.

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01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:19,120
Speaker 3: It come from? And let me tell you some fear

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01:12:19,160 --> 01:12:21,680
Speaker 3: is good. A healthy, a healthy dose of fear is

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01:12:21,720 --> 01:12:24,000
Speaker 3: good to have because it keeps you grounded, it keeps

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01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:27,160
Speaker 3: you humble, and it keeps you praying. I never would

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01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:30,400
Speaker 3: have gotten to this place if I hadn't been afraid. Yes,

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01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:34,400
Speaker 3: every major decision was like, goh, what if this doesn't

1564
01:12:34,439 --> 01:12:36,719
Speaker 3: work out? No, get that out of your head, because

1565
01:12:36,760 --> 01:12:39,920
Speaker 3: you cannot be afraid because that And as I the

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01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:43,440
Speaker 3: more and I say this to her, the more successes

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01:12:43,520 --> 01:12:45,320
Speaker 3: she has. Even if she looks back in her over

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01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:47,680
Speaker 3: her life. Nine times out of ten when I ask

1569
01:12:47,720 --> 01:12:49,560
Speaker 3: people this, that blows their mind. And look back and

1570
01:12:49,680 --> 01:12:51,760
Speaker 3: look back at your entire life and tell me how

1571
01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:57,840
Speaker 3: many times God has let you down? Entire life. Yeah,

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01:12:58,400 --> 01:13:01,639
Speaker 3: and if you really think of about that your future days,

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01:13:01,640 --> 01:13:02,000
Speaker 3: you'd go.

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01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:05,720
Speaker 5: Okay, even when I thought he let me down, even

1575
01:13:05,760 --> 01:13:07,719
Speaker 5: when I thought I had failed, even when I thought

1576
01:13:07,720 --> 01:13:11,400
Speaker 5: I had messed up, that was good for me so

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01:13:11,439 --> 01:13:12,639
Speaker 5: that I can be in this position.

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01:13:12,760 --> 01:13:15,240
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I learned so much in the things that

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01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:17,960
Speaker 3: God didn't let me do. And when a door door

1580
01:13:18,080 --> 01:13:21,560
Speaker 3: is closed, that is not a no. Yeah yeah, that

1581
01:13:21,560 --> 01:13:24,920
Speaker 3: that is there's another way, that's another path. It's like

1582
01:13:24,960 --> 01:13:27,880
Speaker 3: being an amazed when you hit that that brick wall.

1583
01:13:28,479 --> 01:13:31,200
Speaker 3: You don't you don't stop, you could Okay, maybe I

1584
01:13:31,200 --> 01:13:32,800
Speaker 3: gotta double back. I gotta go this way, I gotta

1585
01:13:32,840 --> 01:13:34,320
Speaker 3: go this way, but you'll get there.

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01:13:34,439 --> 01:13:37,759
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, Wow, that's so good. And her last question

1587
01:13:37,800 --> 01:13:39,160
Speaker 2: is how do I get myself to jump?

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01:13:39,920 --> 01:13:44,240
Speaker 3: How do I get myself to jump? Yeah? By undoing

1589
01:13:44,280 --> 01:13:46,360
Speaker 3: all of those voices that caused you to have those

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01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:46,840
Speaker 3: few yes.

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01:13:47,040 --> 01:13:50,200
Speaker 2: Yeah that's good. Wow. Well y'all heard it from the

1592
01:13:50,680 --> 01:13:53,280
Speaker 2: man himself, like I ain't got nothing else to add

1593
01:13:53,320 --> 01:13:56,719
Speaker 2: to that, that he broke that all the way down. Wow,

1594
01:13:56,880 --> 01:13:59,519
Speaker 2: think that blessed me? My goodness, I only want to

1595
01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:06,760
Speaker 2: look at the door. I know you cry. So the

1596
01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:08,439
Speaker 2: next thing we do is what I'm going for.

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01:14:08,520 --> 01:14:12,639
Speaker 3: I like that. Who go ahead, Darling.

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01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:19,920
Speaker 1: This came from the daughter Gabana store and.

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01:14:18,640 --> 01:14:20,120
Speaker 3: Darling was somewhere where Darling was.

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Speaker 1: Remember I had a rough nighted see, and I was

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01:14:24,080 --> 01:14:27,200
Speaker 1: I couldn't get out to shop and my different Tyler.

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01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:28,560
Speaker 2: Harry, that was a night I got you.

1603
01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:31,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, send it to a make shift, make sure feel better.

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01:14:31,479 --> 01:14:32,559
Speaker 2: I did. Immediately.

1605
01:14:32,680 --> 01:14:35,240
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, I think I can get up

1606
01:14:35,240 --> 01:14:40,439
Speaker 3: now a black car to make a girl get out

1607
01:14:40,439 --> 01:14:45,880
Speaker 3: of the bed. She's like everything, that's so good.

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01:14:49,640 --> 01:14:52,120
Speaker 1: So we also do what it's called what I'm going through,

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01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:55,120
Speaker 1: what I'm growing through, and in this season of my life,

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01:14:55,720 --> 01:14:59,080
Speaker 1: even based on things we've talked about, I am going through,

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01:14:59,160 --> 01:15:03,599
Speaker 1: especially right now, want to strike just stretching my faith,

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01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:06,960
Speaker 1: learning new things that I want to do and not

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01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:10,360
Speaker 1: putting all my eggs in one basket and just having

1614
01:15:10,360 --> 01:15:11,160
Speaker 1: faith that God.

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01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:11,719
Speaker 2: Is going to move.

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01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:13,479
Speaker 3: Is that going through and growing through?

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01:15:13,680 --> 01:15:15,880
Speaker 1: This is what I'm going through? Yeah, right now, But

1618
01:15:15,920 --> 01:15:18,640
Speaker 1: then I'm growing Yeah, I'm growing through.

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01:15:21,080 --> 01:15:24,680
Speaker 2: Right now. I'm really growing through. And I feel like

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01:15:24,720 --> 01:15:27,320
Speaker 2: this is always growing through, not like having control of

1621
01:15:27,320 --> 01:15:29,880
Speaker 2: everything and a lot of things to just be, so

1622
01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:33,000
Speaker 2: that'd be what I'm just letting go. Yeah, what about you?

1623
01:15:33,080 --> 01:15:33,880
Speaker 2: Are you going through?

1624
01:15:34,200 --> 01:15:37,879
Speaker 3: What I'm What I go through is just battling compassion

1625
01:15:37,960 --> 01:15:40,320
Speaker 3: for deca. We talked as we talked about before and

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01:15:40,439 --> 01:15:44,559
Speaker 3: understanding that that everybody's not going to get it, yeah,

1627
01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:46,799
Speaker 3: and being okay with that. I still have to remind

1628
01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:51,600
Speaker 3: myself of that. That's what I'm growing through, or I

1629
01:15:51,640 --> 01:15:58,040
Speaker 3: would say going through. I'm actually pretty good. I'm really

1630
01:15:58,080 --> 01:16:02,000
Speaker 3: really good right now. I've lived these fifty three years

1631
01:16:02,040 --> 01:16:06,160
Speaker 3: and learned a lot of things, and all I want

1632
01:16:06,160 --> 01:16:10,000
Speaker 3: to do at this point is just take this wisdom,

1633
01:16:10,640 --> 01:16:14,080
Speaker 3: these things that I've learned, and share them with anybody

1634
01:16:14,160 --> 01:16:17,960
Speaker 3: who wants to receive them. Take them. But I also

1635
01:16:18,080 --> 01:16:20,599
Speaker 3: don't want to. Oh my god, the older you get,

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01:16:21,120 --> 01:16:22,960
Speaker 3: I see some old people who just that they are

1637
01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:25,600
Speaker 3: just impatient. The older you get is like, listen, I

1638
01:16:26,160 --> 01:16:28,040
Speaker 3: have one friend I've been help trying to help for years.

1639
01:16:28,040 --> 01:16:30,000
Speaker 3: I was like, We've been over this. I've told you

1640
01:16:30,040 --> 01:16:32,080
Speaker 3: these things ten different times. Because I never say you

1641
01:16:32,160 --> 01:16:35,840
Speaker 3: should do this, And when I'm giving advice, most times

1642
01:16:35,920 --> 01:16:38,080
Speaker 3: I let people talk so they can hear themselves work

1643
01:16:38,120 --> 01:16:41,320
Speaker 3: out the issues. But other times I'll say, well, if

1644
01:16:41,360 --> 01:16:44,840
Speaker 3: I were in your shoes, if I were here is

1645
01:16:45,040 --> 01:16:49,880
Speaker 3: my thinking on that. But after sharing and sharing and sharing, sharing,

1646
01:16:49,880 --> 01:16:52,559
Speaker 3: and you still don't start making progress in that direction,

1647
01:16:53,000 --> 01:16:55,240
Speaker 3: Like you're wasting my time because there's somebody else who

1648
01:16:55,240 --> 01:16:55,840
Speaker 3: could be using this.

1649
01:16:56,840 --> 01:16:59,880
Speaker 2: Figure it out. You take those nuggets you're giving in

1650
01:16:59,880 --> 01:17:01,200
Speaker 2: at That's so true.

1651
01:17:01,360 --> 01:17:04,280
Speaker 3: And anybody who can get to me what I mean

1652
01:17:04,320 --> 01:17:06,719
Speaker 3: by that, it's like anybody who can get in my presence,

1653
01:17:06,840 --> 01:17:09,679
Speaker 3: Like I'm I say this in the best way.

1654
01:17:09,760 --> 01:17:10,920
Speaker 2: No, I know exactly what you mean.

1655
01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:14,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm Tyler Perry, you know. And I'm a loner

1656
01:17:14,200 --> 01:17:16,160
Speaker 3: by nature. I like to be alone, and so when

1657
01:17:16,160 --> 01:17:18,479
Speaker 3: people make their way into my life, I go, oh,

1658
01:17:19,320 --> 01:17:22,960
Speaker 3: you are clearly somebody God has sent for me to

1659
01:17:23,000 --> 01:17:26,840
Speaker 3: pay attention to because you broke through all of that

1660
01:17:26,920 --> 01:17:29,360
Speaker 3: stuff and you're this close. Like, Okay, what am I

1661
01:17:29,400 --> 01:17:33,640
Speaker 3: supposed to teach your guy? Can't be selfish, can't be

1662
01:17:33,680 --> 01:17:37,479
Speaker 3: about you, no matter how tired exhausted. Here's a moment,

1663
01:17:38,120 --> 01:17:41,000
Speaker 3: and because that moment may be something that saves or

1664
01:17:41,080 --> 01:17:42,479
Speaker 3: changes that person's life.

1665
01:17:42,720 --> 01:17:43,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a witness.

1666
01:17:44,320 --> 01:17:47,160
Speaker 1: I'm a testimony, living proof example.

1667
01:17:47,520 --> 01:17:52,160
Speaker 2: Okay, and the.

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Speaker 1: Last thing we do is keep it blank, sweety, because

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01:17:54,280 --> 01:17:55,960
Speaker 1: the show is called Keep It Positive, Sweety, but we

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01:17:56,000 --> 01:17:58,960
Speaker 1: feel in the blank, and I would say keep it

1671
01:17:59,000 --> 01:18:03,160
Speaker 1: open minded, sweet because opening your mind to new things

1672
01:18:03,280 --> 01:18:04,759
Speaker 1: can like get you further.

1673
01:18:05,360 --> 01:18:07,400
Speaker 3: I think we'll say saying that, I say, keep it growing.

1674
01:18:07,520 --> 01:18:09,519
Speaker 3: There we go, keep it growing, just keep it growing.

1675
01:18:09,680 --> 01:18:11,360
Speaker 2: Yes, here we go again.

1676
01:18:11,680 --> 01:18:13,519
Speaker 3: Here we grow again.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much, guys, Thank you so much for

1678
01:18:16,479 --> 01:18:19,160
Speaker 1: tuning into this episode. If you want to be featured

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Speaker 1: at Keep It Positive Sweetie, and you guys can follow

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Speaker 1: Tyler at Tyler Period because he's tall.

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Speaker 3: So in time, somebody is being some negative and you

1686
01:18:39,640 --> 01:18:41,040
Speaker 3: don't want them to know what you're saying or they're

1687
01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:45,559
Speaker 3: being all that way, you just say kIPS, kIPS T.

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