WEBVTT - Rediscovering Biblical Principles in Modern Medicine

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<v Speaker 1>You probably recognize the name doctor Marty mccarrey if you

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<v Speaker 1>watch Fox News, read the Washington Post or the Wall

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<v Speaker 1>Street Journal. Doctor McCarey, and we played quite a few

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<v Speaker 1>clips of him during and after COVID was a refreshingly

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<v Speaker 1>independent voice about both COVID the responses to it. And

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<v Speaker 1>one of my favorite aspects of doctor McCarry and what

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<v Speaker 1>he does, and we're going to talk to him in

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<v Speaker 1>just a second, is that if he didn't know, he

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<v Speaker 1>would say, we don't know that yet, which we need

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<v Speaker 1>much more of fan six feet apart science. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, I trust the science. Doctor McCarey is the

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<v Speaker 1>author of a forthcoming book, Blind Spots, When Medicine Gets

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<v Speaker 1>It Wrong and What It Means for Our Health New

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<v Speaker 1>York Times bestselling author, healthcare expert at Johns Hopkins.

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<v Speaker 2>Doctor McCarey, how are you, sir.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm doing great, looking forward to opening day for the

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<v Speaker 3>NFL tonight and watching the Ravens. Good to be with you, guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Awesome, good team to root for, the Mighty Ravens. So,

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<v Speaker 1>the book I'm Guessing, Blind Spots When Medicine Gets It Wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>was inspired in large measure by the response to COVID.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I actually don't talk much about COVID in the book.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of people are become very tribal about it.

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<v Speaker 3>You have a lot of conversation. But COVID was a

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<v Speaker 3>sneak peek into how a broader medical establishment works and

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<v Speaker 3>when they issue broad recommendations, be it the food pyramid

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<v Speaker 3>or the wrong advice on how to prevent pened allergies,

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<v Speaker 3>and you go down the list, many of our modern

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<v Speaker 3>day health crises have actually been caused by or hastened

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<v Speaker 3>by the medical establishment giving wrong information out there. So

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<v Speaker 3>there's a lot of misinformation in health and science, and

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<v Speaker 3>that's why I wrote this. People need to know the

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<v Speaker 3>truth about the obesity epidemic, why autism is going up,

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<v Speaker 3>the real cause of heart disease. So I present the

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<v Speaker 3>latest research on all these topics in the book Blind Spots.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, I had what I thought was a really good

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<v Speaker 1>follow up question. But I find myself wanting to know

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<v Speaker 1>the answer to all of those things.

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<v Speaker 2>You just need each one of them.

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<v Speaker 1>As a parent of a kid on the autism spectrum,

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<v Speaker 1>for instance, what clues do we have for what's going

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<v Speaker 1>on there?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, autism is going up fourteen percent every year over

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<v Speaker 3>the last twenty three years, so it's up three hundred

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<v Speaker 3>and seventeen percent over that time period. No one in

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<v Speaker 3>the medical field is stopping and putting their head up

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<v Speaker 3>and looking around and say, what's going on here. No

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<v Speaker 3>one's asking these big questions. And it turns out that

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<v Speaker 3>we've got some good preliminary data that when the microbiome

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<v Speaker 3>is altered, that is the garden of millions of different

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<v Speaker 3>bacteria that line the GI tract. When that or system

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<v Speaker 3>is altered, that appears to be associated with autism. And

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<v Speaker 3>there's a lot of things that alter the microbiome, from

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<v Speaker 3>the ultra process foods and potentially the pesticides, the heavy metals, microplastics.

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<v Speaker 3>We're understanding that kids born by C section have a

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<v Speaker 3>different microbiome, and now that has been associated with the

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<v Speaker 3>rise in colon cancer that we're seeing in young people.

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<v Speaker 3>So there's some incredible scientific research out there that when

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<v Speaker 3>I look at these studies and share them with my

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<v Speaker 3>colleagues other doctors at Johns Hopkins Hospital, they're shocked by

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<v Speaker 3>that research. And so I thought, why not share this

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<v Speaker 3>research directly with the public in a book.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, well, I'm going to go back to my at

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<v Speaker 1>least reasonably high quality follow up question, which was going

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<v Speaker 1>to be We're fairly familiar with the history of the

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<v Speaker 1>food pyramid and the influence of the serial companies in

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<v Speaker 1>the fifties and sixties. But Margarine, yeah, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>lots and lots of carbs, always carbs. We kind of

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<v Speaker 1>understand what the motivation was there. What are some of

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<v Speaker 1>the other things that motivate the medical establishment to push

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<v Speaker 1>things that are, you know, not entirely true or not

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<v Speaker 1>true at all.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, look big pharma and the food industry that is

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<v Speaker 3>profiting off of these highly addictive foods that are engineered

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<v Speaker 3>to not make you feel full, but to make you

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<v Speaker 3>want more, and you sort of never feel like you're

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<v Speaker 3>you're full, Your you're hunger increases as you eat, which

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<v Speaker 3>is backwards and big ag These industries have captured not

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<v Speaker 3>only the regulators and the government in their recommendations, but

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<v Speaker 3>also the medical profession. Heck, most of our funding for

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<v Speaker 3>research comes from pharma, and so the only thing we

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<v Speaker 3>really study our drugs, and we make people sick. We

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<v Speaker 3>ignore all the poisoned food and environmental exp and we

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<v Speaker 3>just medicate people. And we've got a terrible thing to doctors,

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<v Speaker 3>We've told them, just put your head down and prescribe

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<v Speaker 3>these medications. Every time you see these things. We've got

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<v Speaker 3>the most over medicated population in the history of the world.

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<v Speaker 3>And at no point is anyone saying, what's going on here,

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<v Speaker 3>what's the big picture? But I think it's a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of the big industry. It's a medical industrial complex, and

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<v Speaker 3>a group of doctors now are pushing back. We're pushing

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<v Speaker 3>back and we're going straight to the public and bringing

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<v Speaker 3>the case directly to them.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, there'd be a cultural aspect to this too, obviously,

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<v Speaker 4>the profit motive and everything like that. But then there's

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<v Speaker 4>a cultural aspect of doctors aren't supposed to tell anybody, hey,

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<v Speaker 4>you're fat and you need to start eating different because

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<v Speaker 4>then they're going to get a bad review and all

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<v Speaker 4>that sort of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's its own problem.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's a consumerist culture, there's a there's groupthink in medicine.

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<v Speaker 3>You saw it during COVID and no one could talk

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<v Speaker 3>about obesity. It was a forbidden topic. All of the discussion.

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<v Speaker 3>We talked about COVID incessantly for three years. No one

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<v Speaker 3>ever mentioned the number one modifiable risk factor of dying

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<v Speaker 3>of COVID and that is what we call metabolic syndrome

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<v Speaker 3>pre diabetes, diabetes and obesity, and that is one hundred

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<v Speaker 3>percent modifiable as a shoot born illness.

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<v Speaker 2>So interesting. I'm so lucky.

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<v Speaker 1>My primary guy, a care doctor, said to me the

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<v Speaker 1>other day, my job is to get you to one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred years old with as little medication as possible. And

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, yeah, I can climb on board that plan.

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<v Speaker 4>And you said, and you said, I want a second opinion,

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<v Speaker 4>and he said, you're ugly too.

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<v Speaker 1>Beautiful, beautiful, So listen, I'm about to answer ask a

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<v Speaker 1>question of doctor Marty McCarey that would require another book

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<v Speaker 1>to answer. But in Stephen Brill's great book Bitter Pill,

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<v Speaker 1>he's talking about the American medical medical care system, which

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<v Speaker 1>is even more screwed up than it was when he

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<v Speaker 1>wrote the book. Are there a couple of things you

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<v Speaker 1>would recommend government do in terms of the American healthcare system?

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<v Speaker 2>What would they be?

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<v Speaker 1>Because it feels like, is Brill put it, the government's

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<v Speaker 1>not involved where it needs to be most and over

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<v Speaker 1>involved where it ought to get the hell out of

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<v Speaker 1>the way.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, we got to get rid of a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>these conflicts of interest We've got to get a fresh

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<v Speaker 3>set of leadership. All these dinosaurs at the NIH and

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<v Speaker 3>these institutions, none of them have ever I've never heard

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<v Speaker 3>any of them apologize for any one of their twenty

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<v Speaker 3>major errors during COVID, and so people are hungry for honesty.

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<v Speaker 3>A study just came out showing that only forty percent

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<v Speaker 3>of the American public now trust hospitals and doctors. That's

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<v Speaker 3>down from sixty five percent four years ago. So we

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<v Speaker 3>need SOMEL. We need to get rid of these conflicts

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<v Speaker 3>of interest, we need fresh leadership, and we need to

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<v Speaker 3>get rid of the capture by big pharma. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>we've got we've subsidized a lot of the poison in

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<v Speaker 3>our food. A lot of these derivatives come from food subsidies.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe we need to talk about changing the school lunch

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<v Speaker 3>program instead of putting every kid on ozempic. Maybe we

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<v Speaker 3>need to talk about environmental exposures that cause cancer, not

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<v Speaker 3>just the chemotherapy to treat it. We've got to talk

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<v Speaker 3>about food as medicine and a whole new approach to health.

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<v Speaker 3>Because we've got fifty percent of our nation's children now

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<v Speaker 3>obese or overweight, and a quarter are dealing with pre diabetes.

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<v Speaker 3>That is not a healthy prospect. And the only thing

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<v Speaker 3>the medical industrial complex is saying is we got to

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<v Speaker 3>medicate more people, and that is not the answer.

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<v Speaker 4>You've talked a lot about what we eat for obvious reasons.

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<v Speaker 4>What have you eaten today?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I'm actually going to take a break and go

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<v Speaker 3>to the gym here as soon as we're done. I

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<v Speaker 3>like to have eggs in the morning, some natural, healthy

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<v Speaker 3>juices with no added sugar, and then I might have

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<v Speaker 3>some nuts or skip lunch and then just go straight

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<v Speaker 3>to dinner. It's like the medical field has discovered things

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<v Speaker 3>that we've known about since biblical times. There's benefits to fasting,

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<v Speaker 3>whole foods, clean meats, there's nothing wrong with meat and meditation.

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<v Speaker 3>These are all biblical principles, but it's like we're rediscovering

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<v Speaker 3>them in the modern medical literature.

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<v Speaker 2>Excellent point. Yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Doctor Marty McCarey's new book is Blind Spots, When Medicine

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<v Speaker 1>Gets it Wrong and what it means for our health.

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<v Speaker 2>It's coming out like next week.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Yeah, it's coming on next week. I'm really excited

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<v Speaker 3>about this book. So thanks for mentioning it.

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<v Speaker 2>We might have you back on again.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I we'd be delighted if we could talk again. The

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<v Speaker 1>book sounds terrific. There are so many topics that we

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<v Speaker 1>could discuss with you. We know you've got to tight schedule.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, for instance, I know you're your field surgically

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<v Speaker 1>is transplants, correct, I mean that's your your chief.

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<v Speaker 3>Specialty, gastro intestinal surgery and surgical oncology and pancreas. Pancreas

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<v Speaker 3>ISLD transplants has been my clinical focus, but I spend

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<v Speaker 3>now most of my time doing public health research, trying

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<v Speaker 3>a challenge that deeply held assumptions in medicine. And I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think doctor Kauchi is going to be sending me

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<v Speaker 3>a Christmas card this year.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, nor Mark Zuckerberg, who owes you a hell

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<v Speaker 1>of an apology speaking of trying to silence any descent

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<v Speaker 1>during the COVID period, including learned and well informed dissent.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, Doctor McCarey, great to talk to you. I hope

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<v Speaker 2>we can do it again.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, guys, thanks so much.

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<v Speaker 4>That whole pleasure, that whole thing you just described that

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<v Speaker 4>he does. I was going to do that, but I

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<v Speaker 4>decided to be a dis jockie.

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<v Speaker 2>So the uh pancreatic. Yeah, transplant gas. That's what I

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<v Speaker 2>was going to do. That's what I was planning on doing.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I became Jackie

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<v Speaker 1>Shop and Getty