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Speaker 5: It is Thursday, December twenty first, twenty twenty three, Season nineteen,
Speaker 5: episode number ninety three. Welcome to the latest edition of
Speaker 5: The Break. We are live from the SWBC Mortgage studios
Speaker 5: at the Star and today we're going to talk about
Speaker 5: the Miami defense versus a Cowboys offense. We'll catch up
Speaker 5: on some injury updates here to get us going. Brian,
Speaker 5: what do we know about these three players, Tyron Smith,
Speaker 5: Zach Martin, and Malie Hooker.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the the seem to be getting the positive. I
Speaker 2: didn't get an update on Smith, and I think it's
Speaker 2: one of those things that they I need to circle
Speaker 2: back on that one. I didn't get an update on that.
Speaker 2: The other ones were improving. And I say that with
Speaker 2: the with the thought I mean, I'm I'm kind of
Speaker 2: learning my lesson about saying yep, they're gonna play this
Speaker 2: week because I heard yep, they're gonna play this week,
Speaker 2: and then they didn't play. So I don't want to.
Speaker 2: I don't want to make people feel go the wrong
Speaker 2: way here. I think that's important that if people want information,
Speaker 2: you give them the right information. But we need to
Speaker 2: circle back about Tyron Smith and what you know. Now
Speaker 2: he naturally doesn't practice during the week and so and
Speaker 2: this is going to be an important one when we
Speaker 2: get into the Dolphins defense about having him on the field.
Speaker 2: This is going to be an important one for that regard. So,
Speaker 2: but the other ones I was told are making improvements
Speaker 2: towards playing. So let's see how that works.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the thing that that kind of concerned me is
Speaker 5: you look at the injury report and we've been used
Speaker 5: to Tyron being on the injury report as a rest
Speaker 5: as a rest. Yeah, yesterday it was designated as a back.
Speaker 5: And and that's the part that makes me a little
Speaker 5: bit worried just because of the history of the player.
Speaker 5: Does that concern you guys at this point from the
Speaker 5: standpoint of just his history, it's.
Speaker 2: The Yeah, that's that's the the there's always things with
Speaker 2: Tyron Smith that you have to worry about. You have
Speaker 2: to worry about the neck, and you have to worry
Speaker 2: about the back because when his back tightens up, it
Speaker 2: seems like there's always okay. Now, what's it's all about? Rest?
Speaker 2: And does rest mean does it mean practice rest like
Speaker 2: they're trying to or does it mean like he's gonna
Speaker 2: have to miss a game because it's tightened up that bad?
Speaker 2: And I, man, I that's that's what I'm saying. And
Speaker 2: hopefully I need to reach out and see if I
Speaker 2: can get the information before the end of this show. Uh,
Speaker 2: and and kind of figure out is it something we
Speaker 2: need to worry about, which we're talking about right now
Speaker 2: because it is a concern because we always worry about
Speaker 2: Tyron Smith when he could get on an airplane and
Speaker 2: sit in the seat for four hours flying and next thing,
Speaker 2: you know, always back tightens up for the game and
Speaker 2: now it's not good and they.
Speaker 6: Get a step further. He can be on the field
Speaker 6: dressed up in full uniform, not really practicing, but just
Speaker 6: standing there together that paycheck, but not play in that game.
Speaker 6: So it happens a lot with him where it's last
Speaker 6: minute or he does miss more than one game back
Speaker 6: to back. So it's definitely an area of concern because
Speaker 6: there are other guys that are on there and you
Speaker 6: see it next to their name, say n ir Rest day.
Speaker 6: So that's a tough one. And then add on Zach
Speaker 6: Martin on top of that. I don't even want to
Speaker 6: think of a scenario like that with two of them out,
Speaker 6: I don't know what happens. We're dead, I don't know.
Speaker 6: I started freaking out. But yeah, with Zach Martin, I
Speaker 6: think what I've heard lately, it's just they're still waiting
Speaker 6: to see a day by day type of situation because
Speaker 6: it is a bruise, but then you don't really know
Speaker 6: until you get further along how that's gonna look and
Speaker 6: all of that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I say, the word was that I asked
Speaker 2: to go how you feeling, and my guys were saying,
Speaker 2: it's to the point where he's getting better every day,
Speaker 2: so they must be the bruising must be. That's that's
Speaker 2: collection of blood there that Those are the kinds of
Speaker 2: things when you have a bruise that leads to tightness,
Speaker 2: can you move? So with the improvement every day, we'll
Speaker 2: see They man, they need all these guys to line up.
Speaker 2: They really really do in this same.
Speaker 5: The reports are from from Zach's standpoint that it was
Speaker 5: because it's a deep bruise. What tends to happen is
Speaker 5: is there's kind of the pain associated with it. There's
Speaker 5: also the muscle, like the the the ability to weakness
Speaker 5: fire right, And it sounded like it wasn't firing. That's
Speaker 5: why he couldn't go back into the game. So if
Speaker 5: it's if it's something like that, then I don't know
Speaker 5: if if anyone knows until it's firing the way it
Speaker 5: should be, how long it's going to take for it
Speaker 5: to start firing again in the way that it needs to.
Speaker 5: So that's the part you just you know, I assume
Speaker 5: you just don't know. Yeah, yeah, What do they do
Speaker 5: if if Tyron can't play? What happens from a standpoint
Speaker 5: of personnel, We've had this conversation at nauseum about Tyler
Speaker 5: Smith and does he slide out or do you just
Speaker 5: throw Austome Richards in there? What do you think they
Speaker 5: would probably do if they if they didn't have Tyron
Speaker 5: Smith for a week.
Speaker 2: My gut would be that they would play awesome Richards
Speaker 2: at left tackle, That's what Mike I always talk about
Speaker 2: are we as a group talk about it as like, oh,
Speaker 2: it's simple, just kick you know, kick Tyler Smith to
Speaker 2: the outside and then you know, go ahead and kind
Speaker 2: of navigate it that way. But the fact that you've
Speaker 2: also got maybe Zach Martin being you know, at do
Speaker 2: you want to really weaken two spots? You know? I
Speaker 2: mean yes you would. Hey, you're gonna need you're gonna
Speaker 2: need someone to block Bradley Chubb. We'll get into that.
Speaker 2: You're gonna need somebody to take care of that. But
Speaker 2: I think that they would put Awesome Richards that left tackle,
Speaker 2: let him start and then try and navigate it from there.
Speaker 6: And we've seen this scenario before already this season, so
Speaker 6: it's all really happened. They've seen this happen. Now. I
Speaker 6: don't know what you do if both of them are out,
Speaker 6: if Zach and Tyrone are out, what would you guys do?
Speaker 6: That's a really tough one, hard long.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I well, they would probably do the
Speaker 2: like I said, I think, but Awesome Richards would be
Speaker 2: the adjustment. And then they'll do what they did in
Speaker 2: the Buffalo game. Yeah, you know with the guard and
Speaker 2: so I that's kind of how I think they would
Speaker 2: work about it.
Speaker 4: How did Tyler Bass look to you and I came.
Speaker 2: You know what, I tell you what, there was only
Speaker 2: really the one time where they gave it, they give
Speaker 2: it a sack. He was beat right off the jump,
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden it turned into when he
Speaker 2: got beat, then rico' daddle had to come and pick
Speaker 2: up his guy because it happened so quick. And then
Speaker 2: what that allowed the Buffalo linebacker Dotson, once he saw
Speaker 2: that Dowdell was blocking, he just said, okay, well I'm
Speaker 2: gonna rush. I'm gonna key blitz this thing. And so
Speaker 2: when his key when his key blocked, he immediately rushed,
Speaker 2: and that you know, then Russo gets inside Dots and
Speaker 2: gets there, and then they have, you know, they split
Speaker 2: a sack that way. That was the one time that
Speaker 2: I felt like that he was not good. But other
Speaker 2: than that, he comes in and plays pretty well. It's
Speaker 2: not like it's just this huge drop off. Okay, I
Speaker 2: know it's Zach Martin Hall of Fame guard, but when
Speaker 2: you usually you expect like this big massive, just oh
Speaker 2: my gosh, they can't block anybody with this guy. And
Speaker 2: he's he he comes in and he does a good job.
Speaker 2: He works well with beattish. You know, he worked well
Speaker 2: with Steel when they had to. So, you know, but
Speaker 2: that one time was when you went, oh, geez, okay,
Speaker 2: now I understand why when you don't have Zack Martin
Speaker 2: in a game, this is what you're gonna get. Sometimes
Speaker 2: you're gonna get. But you know that's sometimes these offensive
Speaker 2: lineman do get beat, you know. And and but with Bass,
Speaker 2: it's he's he's a he's a pretty dependable guy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm actually I'm glad.
Speaker 6: I was just gonna say that with him too. With TJ. Bass,
Speaker 6: he's a guy that a lot of people over on
Speaker 6: that football side were talked very highly of.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, they like him a lot.
Speaker 6: I remember going back to preseason game talking to Tyler
Speaker 6: Smith and him asked me asking him the question who
Speaker 6: has impressed you the most in the old lineman group,
Speaker 6: and he mentioned TJ. Bass. So they like him for
Speaker 6: a reason. I think he's a guy that it's talented
Speaker 6: and he can do, you know, be a plugging player
Speaker 6: when needed, but of course totally different playing level than
Speaker 6: when you take out a guy like Czeck Martin.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the thing with with the thing with Basses
Speaker 2: that there was a lot of people and I know
Speaker 2: he was one of the guys that we talked about
Speaker 2: on the Draft Show quite a bit and like, Okay,
Speaker 2: who are your best available? Guys? Who are your best
Speaker 2: You know, you get to the third day of the
Speaker 2: draft and you're starting to think about guys with trades
Speaker 2: and six haven't rowned. Who's your best available? And Bass's
Speaker 2: name was always coming up on the list, And so
Speaker 2: when Dallas signed him as a free agent, then you
Speaker 2: were kind of like going, Okay, here's a guy that
Speaker 2: probably should have got drafted and didn't get drafted, but
Speaker 2: Dallas was able to sign him and make it work,
Speaker 2: and he's and he's done a really nice job. He
Speaker 2: really has.
Speaker 5: Frankly, between Bass and Richards, I'm actually really happy with
Speaker 5: what they've got out of these young offensive linemen and
Speaker 5: excited about what the prospects can be going forward with them,
Speaker 5: because there are areas of this offensive line that are
Speaker 5: getting older and you're gonna have to have some some
Speaker 5: key parts that you may have to replace here in
Speaker 5: the next several years. All Right, we're gonna take our
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Speaker 2: Com, we came up with a really good idea. If
Speaker 2: they're gonna play games, you know, they're playing tug of
Speaker 2: war and all that's for these games. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: we figured out they needed to do a four x
Speaker 2: four relay.
Speaker 4: That'd be fun.
Speaker 2: Two of the guys have to be big men relay guys. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that two big men, two hill guys, two fast guys,
Speaker 2: two big men, and the big man has to anchor,
Speaker 2: has to be the end.
Speaker 4: That would be outstandy. So yeah, I'm tuning in for that.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. I would dodgeball and then tug
Speaker 2: Award and all that give me the give me the
Speaker 2: four by four relay with two of the guys being
Speaker 2: offensive defensive line.
Speaker 5: That's that's where I think it would be so much fun.
Speaker 5: But knowing the NFL, they'd be like, oh, there's a
Speaker 5: chance they could get hurt, Like, we don't want.
Speaker 2: To get hurt in dodgeball. That's my point ahead.
Speaker 5: But I would bet somebody be like, oh no, they
Speaker 5: could pull something like they run every day, Like it's fine,
Speaker 5: but that would be out. See I would I'd be
Speaker 5: in on that.
Speaker 2: See I don't I'm not interested in the flag football game,
Speaker 2: but I would be interested in a in a four
Speaker 2: by like, okay, it's it's the only thing we're gonna do. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And the winner there there, the winning group, their charity
Speaker 2: gets money to you know, they get money for their charity.
Speaker 2: They pick a charity and the winning team gets the
Speaker 2: and you have to pick two fast guys and two
Speaker 2: little guys.
Speaker 5: That guys and heavy, because you know, there's some big
Speaker 5: guys that can move like there's some big guys NFL
Speaker 5: that can move right.
Speaker 4: That would be really interesting to.
Speaker 2: Watch, But it has to be a relay.
Speaker 4: That would be good.
Speaker 2: I think the stadium would be an electric.
Speaker 5: No, it would, it would. All right, let's jump into
Speaker 5: the Miami offense. I'm sorry, Miami defense. The Cowboys offense.
Speaker 5: I mentioned before the break. Vic Vangio was the head
Speaker 5: coach in Denver back in twenty twenty one. Yeah, they
Speaker 5: beat the Cowboys thirty six.
Speaker 2: That shut got down pretty good.
Speaker 5: After the game, he talked about how he had a
Speaker 5: blueprint for beating this Cowboys offense.
Speaker 4: My question for you.
Speaker 5: Is number one, does he do the same sort of
Speaker 5: things here in Miami that he was doing back in Denver.
Speaker 2: Yeah. The thing that he's going to do, and it's
Speaker 2: really interesting the way that they play. He's he's really
Speaker 2: is a zone concepts guy. He's going to play a
Speaker 2: lot of seventy five percent. If you look at the
Speaker 2: metrics seventy five percent zone twenty five percent man even
Speaker 2: though he's got some he's got a really good man
Speaker 2: player in Ramsey, which he's absolutely going to use in
Speaker 2: this game. I mean, you watch the Jets, and maybe
Speaker 2: it had to do a little bit with the Jets
Speaker 2: in their quarterback situation that they felt like that they
Speaker 2: can match up and play a little bit more man,
Speaker 2: you know, against Zach Wilson and maybe make that work.
Speaker 2: And they were able to do that. The Jets offensive line,
Speaker 2: as we all know, which was just horrific and and
Speaker 2: Mimi took advantage of that. The numbers will tell you
Speaker 2: too that this is this is a team with forty
Speaker 2: eight sacks. Thirty two of those sacks have come with
Speaker 2: man pressure, so they're not really uh you know, thirty
Speaker 2: two of them have come without bringing a blitz, so
Speaker 2: they're there. That's that's the second most in the National
Speaker 2: Football League. By the way, they you know, they bring
Speaker 2: a format pressure thirty nine percent of the time, so
Speaker 2: that's again that's second best in the league. I mentioned
Speaker 2: this about they play something that when you watch them
Speaker 2: on tape, they play a group or a coverage called
Speaker 2: cloud and cloud coverage is let me give you an example,
Speaker 2: cloud coverage. They play it twenty six percent of the
Speaker 2: time and you're kind of like watching, like, okay, Buffalo
Speaker 2: plays at thirty percent of the time, Buffalo is just
Speaker 2: ahead of them an amount of cloud coverage. And what
Speaker 2: cloud coverage does it. It's one of those things you
Speaker 2: usually can recognize it on defense because the depth of
Speaker 2: the cornerbacks, like one cornerback will play up and the
Speaker 2: other one will play back and then so you kind
Speaker 2: of got a at the line and you got a
Speaker 2: soft one. And what it's designed to do is pre snap.
Speaker 2: It looks like Cover two with the two safeties, but
Speaker 2: it's designed to take away the deep ball and also
Speaker 2: help you in the run, is what it's done. But
Speaker 2: you could attack the middle of the field with it,
Speaker 2: and the seams you can attack. So that's the Cowboys.
Speaker 2: So the Cowboys do have So Vic Fangio plays a
Speaker 2: lot of cloud coverage, and you could tell by the
Speaker 2: like I say, you could see how the corners are
Speaker 2: playing up and back and then with the two deep looks.
Speaker 2: So he's gonna make Dak. He's gonna make Dak try
Speaker 2: and read his coverage, is what And every quarterback goes
Speaker 2: into game trying to read the coverage, but he does
Speaker 2: it in a way to help himself not give up
Speaker 2: the deep ball. And we saw that last week with Buffalo.
Speaker 2: Buffalo was not interested in letting you throw the ball
Speaker 2: over the top, and they play that coverage more than
Speaker 2: just slightly more than what the Dolphins play.
Speaker 5: Real quick, when you say one one of the corners
Speaker 5: pass up, one plays back right, is that because it morphs?
Speaker 5: Is that because it mors kind of in until cover three?
Speaker 5: The one that's back kind of covers a third of
Speaker 5: the field.
Speaker 2: The back.
Speaker 4: What's the point of it?
Speaker 2: The back? The back one does move back. The one
Speaker 2: that plays up is responsible for everything to the outside
Speaker 2: of that, you know, so he's up, it takes away
Speaker 2: that the one that's back again, it kind of gives
Speaker 2: you that that four it gives you, like four across
Speaker 2: look is really what it gives you right there. And
Speaker 2: that's where we saw last week with the Cowboys. What
Speaker 2: were they dealing with. They were dealing with five underneath,
Speaker 2: four underneath, you know, with with two guys behind or
Speaker 2: one guy behind right, and they were trying to kind
Speaker 2: of to make it look appear like there's no seams
Speaker 2: there's nothing, there's no way to throw it.
Speaker 5: It's hard to find, hard to find.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So so let's see if the Cowboys and the
Speaker 2: Buffalo game might have helped him in this regard of
Speaker 2: having to deal with like, Okay, we saw this last week.
Speaker 2: We saw this coverage last week, you know, and we
Speaker 2: had problems with it. Let's figure out ways and like
Speaker 2: I say, the middle of it, the way, the middle
Speaker 2: of the of the of the zone you can attack.
Speaker 2: And then it also you can you can deal with
Speaker 2: the seams or another one that you can attack.
Speaker 4: If I remember correctly.
Speaker 5: Back in twenty twenty one when they played Denver, there
Speaker 5: was a lot of talk about them running a lot
Speaker 5: of match Man. Explain for the visitors number one, I
Speaker 5: mean for the listeners for number one, what that kind
Speaker 5: of is, and then do they use that in Miami?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, and match Man is what you wanted with
Speaker 2: what you do is that you find the way too.
Speaker 2: It's exactly what it says, and you just find a
Speaker 2: way to match your guys up with.
Speaker 13: And it looks kind of like zone before, but then
Speaker 13: it kind of morps into me it worse into Man
Speaker 13: exactly right. So you have guys back but you have
Speaker 13: everybody underneath playing man coverage, or you have a single
Speaker 13: high safety everybody playing man underneath. And now that they
Speaker 13: have Ramsey back, they're.
Speaker 2: Able to play that where he could play, where he
Speaker 2: could travel. Now he didn't travel all the time. But
Speaker 2: the thing you know about Ramsey in this game, we
Speaker 2: always talk about guys that travel, and they're like, well,
Speaker 2: let's put CD in the slot and he won't be
Speaker 2: able to know Ramsey will go on the slot with him.
Speaker 2: So that's that's where that's an advantage that they had.
Speaker 4: Slot.
Speaker 2: He's he's a hard guy to complete the ball on. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he really no matter where he lines up. I mean,
Speaker 2: if you look at if you look at the corner,
Speaker 2: the corner that I think that that you know that
Speaker 2: you absolutely need to I mean and and and if
Speaker 2: as we get into their corners there this this secondary
Speaker 2: is struggling with health, like their offensive line. I mean,
Speaker 2: Xavier Howard is a really good player. We'll see if
Speaker 2: he plays this week. Deshaun Elliott will see if he plays.
Speaker 2: He's been in a concussion protocol. Uh, Jiven Holland has
Speaker 2: been a safety. You know, they've all missed time during
Speaker 2: the thing and the one player that people have is
Speaker 2: uh is that the the the opponents have attacked is
Speaker 2: Kadar Kahoe is I think how you say his last name,
Speaker 2: it's k O h o u Kadar Kaho and and
Speaker 2: and so it's he's the guy that teams have kind
Speaker 2: of gone after. He's he's the one that's played the
Speaker 2: most coverage snaps and teams have had success. He where's
Speaker 2: number four. And so Ramsey will travel and then the
Speaker 2: Eli Apple and Caho that those guys will play the
Speaker 2: other the other positions, and studying the Eagles game, there
Speaker 2: was no Ramsey that Caho. He was, he was involved
Speaker 2: and he he had his share of issues in these games,
Speaker 2: you know with the and I was looking for okay,
Speaker 2: give me. Teams have got good wide receivers. The Jets
Speaker 2: were a hard game to watch because their quarterbacks so
Speaker 2: damn bad. You know. So now you're really not getting
Speaker 2: the feel of how they're playing coverage. But they they
Speaker 2: they this Ramsey's a guy. Me personally, I don't know
Speaker 2: how often you want to go at him because if
Speaker 2: you just you look at the metrics, he hasn't given
Speaker 2: up any touchdowns. It's a fifty to fifty proposition whether
Speaker 2: you're going to catch the ball or not. He's either
Speaker 2: going to knock it down or maybe catch. He's right
Speaker 2: at forty eight percent for allow you know, for completions
Speaker 2: on him.
Speaker 5: So you'd stay away from him, even if that means
Speaker 5: that you don't get your top.
Speaker 2: It's it's it's a problem. It's I'm not saying you
Speaker 2: just have to completely abandon. I just think you have
Speaker 2: to be careful. I think you have to be. Ramsey
Speaker 2: lives for these kinds of moments to playing games like this.
Speaker 2: And he did a great job against Garrett Wilson for
Speaker 2: the Jets. But again, and Jets quarterback situation is bad.
Speaker 2: So now you know, is there you know? Are you?
Speaker 2: Are you with Dak? Are you Lamb? Do you say
Speaker 2: you know what? We're going to go ahead and go
Speaker 2: after this guy anyway? So but I would, I would.
Speaker 2: I would look at Apple. It's depending on if they
Speaker 2: if like I say, if if they don't get Howard
Speaker 2: back and others back in this game. But I would
Speaker 2: look at Apple and Coho and look at those guys
Speaker 2: and and and see if you know that that might
Speaker 2: be the route better off in this game.
Speaker 5: Who's the most dangerous player in the in the Miami
Speaker 5: front and where they line up, who are they matched
Speaker 5: up against. Who's gonna be the primary person for the
Speaker 5: cowboy's gonna have to deal with?
Speaker 2: Okay, this is where your cowboy injury is kind of
Speaker 2: come into play here if in fact Smith and Martin
Speaker 2: can't go because Christian Wilkins is a is a beast
Speaker 2: inside defensive tackle, Yeah, defensive tackle, and he is a combination.
Speaker 2: He's got power, he's got quickness, he's got speed, agility.
Speaker 2: I mean, he's off the charts for his size, for
Speaker 2: how big he is. He's just one of those types
Speaker 2: of guys. The movement trades, they're second to none. When
Speaker 2: you watch him play, he can penetrate, he can be disruptive,
Speaker 2: He plays the run well, he plays well. It's past okay,
Speaker 2: he moves around, so it would be Smith and Martin
Speaker 2: having to deal with him. So you feel like that
Speaker 2: maybe you're in good shape there. Bradley Chubb on the
Speaker 2: outside usually plays as the right defensive end, and so
Speaker 2: he's the guy he has a lot of tank Lawrence
Speaker 2: traits to him because he plays the run so well too.
Speaker 2: So if you try and run the ball at him off.
Speaker 2: It would be your left side. He would he is
Speaker 2: he could be disrupted because he's strong, He gets up
Speaker 2: the field, he knows how to like he reads scheme.
Speaker 2: If you're try and block him a certain way, he's
Speaker 2: able to get off. He plays with his hands well,
Speaker 2: and he's a really really good pass rusher, and he's
Speaker 2: just kind of a relentless guy, super active as a
Speaker 2: pass rusher. So in my opinion of your front seven,
Speaker 2: those are their two best players. Now they're at linebacker.
Speaker 2: They played that. We've seen it last week with a
Speaker 2: little bit of a lack of size. David Long is
Speaker 2: an inside linebacker. He doesn't have great height and he
Speaker 2: doesn't have great bulk, but he's super aggressive. These linebackers attack.
Speaker 2: Play action could be big against this group because all
Speaker 2: of a sudden, if you kind of get things go
Speaker 2: when play action will bring these linebackers up. You block
Speaker 2: the front, play action gets them up. Now you've got
Speaker 2: seams behind or you've got area behind these linebackers. Because
Speaker 2: they're so interested in getting downhill and attacking the run.
Speaker 2: That's what they want to do. They want to attack
Speaker 2: as soon as they see run. They're all attacking there.
Speaker 2: They're going to play gaps. They played with really good
Speaker 2: discipline and they tackle very very well. But they have
Speaker 2: their linebacker, like I say, Long, he's too aggressive and
Speaker 2: you can get plays in behind him that way with
Speaker 2: the play action. It might be a good opportunity for
Speaker 2: the Cowboys if they can get it going.
Speaker 5: One other thing I noticed Miami right now is sixth
Speaker 5: and rushing attempts against, but fifth in yards per attempt,
Speaker 5: which suggests that teams want to be able to run
Speaker 5: the ball. They haven't necessarily been successful in doing that.
Speaker 5: When you think about it from that standpoint, is this
Speaker 5: a game where the Cowboys really shit be focused on
Speaker 5: their passing game or do you think they are going
Speaker 5: to really have to go heavy on the run in
Speaker 5: order to set up to pass.
Speaker 2: I think that I think they're going it's going to
Speaker 2: have to be an element. I was encouraged by what
Speaker 2: they did against Buffalo and running the football. I was
Speaker 2: encouraged by it. I think I think Pollard is finally
Speaker 2: finding it.
Speaker 4: He has some good runs game.
Speaker 2: Now. The question, I mean, the question will come into though,
Speaker 2: if no Smith and no Martin, how much you might
Speaker 2: have to run the ball or try to run the
Speaker 2: ball just to keep this pass rush off the top
Speaker 2: of off Dak in this game. Play action would be
Speaker 2: good if they can get the run. As I was saying,
Speaker 2: it can be good to use in this game if
Speaker 2: they can get the running game going. But it's the
Speaker 2: way the configuration of the secondary right now, how banged
Speaker 2: up they are. If it's the guys that played against
Speaker 2: the Jets last week, and then I think that they're
Speaker 2: with the exception of Ramsey, you know, Eli Apple and
Speaker 2: the others, I think, can you can you can find
Speaker 2: ways to make some plays on those guys.
Speaker 6: You know, I'm thinking of like what the Dolphin's break
Speaker 6: would be talking about when talking about the Cowboys offense
Speaker 6: and just looking at the opposing side, like Dallas does
Speaker 6: have very talented players everywhere on offense weapons when you
Speaker 6: were talking, even if they take out or follow Lamb
Speaker 6: the whole time, you still have Cooks, You still have
Speaker 6: Jake Ferguson. Michael Gillup is still there with him. You
Speaker 6: never know which kind of game he's gonna have, but
Speaker 6: you've seen him be good. You still have Tony Poller
Speaker 6: in there too, ric o'dale. They both can run the ball.
Speaker 6: The only biggest issue here that I think it's gonna
Speaker 6: come down to is the O line. And I think
Speaker 6: the same thing with what you talked about their offense,
Speaker 6: the Dolphine offense. I think both teams right now offensively
Speaker 6: are set up pretty similar, and it's gonna come down
Speaker 6: to who can play the fastest and who can get
Speaker 6: ahead the fast like the sooner the quicker right off
Speaker 6: the bat. So you're not falling behind and just having
Speaker 6: to kind of catch up to the opposing team because
Speaker 6: right now, I mean, both quarterbacks can do things. They
Speaker 6: can throw the ball, they can.
Speaker 2: Run the MVP kind of candidate quarterbacks back of them. Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so it's it. I think it really does come
Speaker 6: down everything to just how long can the O line,
Speaker 6: both all lines hold up in the game.
Speaker 5: Yeah, when you talk about this defense, it sounds like
Speaker 5: when you go through all the different pieces of the defense,
Speaker 5: sounds like they got as much talent as any of
Speaker 5: the better defenses that they've played all season. How would
Speaker 5: you rate them, like if you if you were saying,
Speaker 5: are they better than the Philly Do they have more
Speaker 5: talent than the Philly defense?
Speaker 2: I don't think they have. Yeah, I don't think they
Speaker 2: have the pass rush that Philly has. Uh, But I
Speaker 2: think they've got the inside presence that Philly has, and
Speaker 2: I think they've got the one guy in Chubb would
Speaker 2: be very similar to what Hassan Reddick is. So can
Speaker 2: you this group when you watch them play, they tackle well.
Speaker 2: They I was impressed of how well they get to
Speaker 2: the ball and get guys on the ground. That that
Speaker 2: was something I'm usually you watch teams that struggle, but
Speaker 2: they're so aggressive in the way that they play. I
Speaker 2: just was like, I'm like, dang that, you know, that
Speaker 2: could have been a bigger game there, but but it wasn't.
Speaker 2: So uh. I think the two teams are very similar.
Speaker 2: How that I mean with the Cowboys and you know
Speaker 2: there's some there's explosive players on Cowboys offense or explosive,
Speaker 2: really explosive players on the Dolphins offense. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: their their ability at running back to run the ball
Speaker 2: is probably better than yours. You know that. But I
Speaker 2: think Ambar's right. I think it's going to come down to,
Speaker 2: you know, the health of both offensive lines and if
Speaker 2: backup guys have to play in this game, which one
Speaker 2: of these backup offensive linemen hold up the best? Because
Speaker 2: that's that's going to tell the tale of the tail
Speaker 2: of the game. I believe too. She's right about that.
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Speaker 5: It is the final segment of The Break live from
Speaker 5: the SWBC Mortgage studios at the Star. We got a
Speaker 5: few more things I want to talk to you guys
Speaker 5: about regarding this matchup, and we'll hopefully get a couple
Speaker 5: of fan questions in here towards the end of the
Speaker 5: show as well.
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Speaker 4: All right, So here's the question.
Speaker 5: What was the primary reason for the offensive challenges we
Speaker 5: saw last week? I think there are a lot of
Speaker 5: things you can point two yea, What would you say
Speaker 5: is the biggest thing that was the problem for Dallas
Speaker 5: last week against Buffalo?
Speaker 2: I think the cover. I think I think Dallas's Dallas
Speaker 2: looks so basic playing defense or playing offense last week,
Speaker 2: the routes look basic that it reminded me so much
Speaker 2: of the struggles that they had, and maybe the fact
Speaker 2: that Buffalo did a great job of playing, in my opinion,
Speaker 2: playing coverage and not allowing you any because we felt
Speaker 2: like that Buffalo was going to give up some separation,
Speaker 2: they were going to give up some plays they were
Speaker 2: going to and their their their pass rush was was
Speaker 2: good enough because it just kind of like it rushed
Speaker 2: and then it kind of and then when there when
Speaker 2: nothing developed for Doc to get rid of the ball.
Speaker 2: We didn't see Dak getting rid of the ball with
Speaker 2: any quickness in this game. There wasn any There wasn't
Speaker 2: any decisiveness, and it was all like, man, I'm not sure,
Speaker 2: I'm not sure. I'm not sure. Throw it. I'm not sure,
Speaker 2: I'm not sure. Throw it, you know that kind of thing.
Speaker 2: And I think he was going through that he saw
Speaker 2: a bunch of blue jerseys and it's like nobody everything.
Speaker 2: It just looks like there's no you could not see
Speaker 2: any white jerseys, gonna see of blue. And I think
Speaker 2: that's something that really caused them problems that there was
Speaker 2: no combinations of the routes. The one that they had
Speaker 2: was the one, the big one that went to the
Speaker 2: Cooks that they actually got the safety to play because
Speaker 2: of the Lamb route. But other than that, it seemed
Speaker 2: so just basic from what we've seen the previous six
Speaker 2: seven weeks. It's just it was not a it was
Speaker 2: not something that you would you would it's not something
Speaker 2: you would use for teaching film. You use it for
Speaker 2: teaching film how to play defense. You wouldn't use it
Speaker 2: for hey, this is offensive attack. Watch this This is
Speaker 2: how you this is how you manipulate routes, and this
Speaker 2: is how it just seems so just you know, and
Speaker 2: I think I think give Buffalo credit for the way
Speaker 2: they the way they played their guys in the back end.
Speaker 5: The If you if you look at the game, obviously
Speaker 5: there was there was some rain. It was some rain early,
Speaker 5: got heavier towards the second half. How much do you
Speaker 5: think the weather really malade a factor in the game.
Speaker 2: No, not at all.
Speaker 6: I mean obviously, I mean you can't just disregard that.
Speaker 5: But I'm not trying to excuse anything. I'm just saying
Speaker 5: how much did it factor into what they were trying
Speaker 5: to do?
Speaker 6: It shouldn't be that different. Like we were there, we
Speaker 6: watched it. It was raining before the game, it stopped
Speaker 6: once kickoffs started. The whole first half, it didn't seem
Speaker 6: like it was barely raining at all, like it was.
Speaker 6: It dried up that way. Then into the second half
Speaker 6: it kind of started sprinkling again, but it wasn't a
Speaker 6: whole lot. And we know they were practicing out here
Speaker 6: with buckets full of water and getting their hands wet
Speaker 6: and the ball's wet, So I don't I mean, the
Speaker 6: performance should not have been that bad to blame it
Speaker 6: on the weather. It's what I'm trying to say, Like,
Speaker 6: you should have played better. Yeah, you could have come
Speaker 6: out with the loss and everything, but the playing level
Speaker 6: should have been a lot higher than what it was.
Speaker 6: So don't blame it on the weather because it wasn't
Speaker 6: even that bad.
Speaker 2: And I like what you're saying there, because to me
Speaker 2: that it almost like if Dallas could have played some
Speaker 2: good defense early in that game and not, you know,
Speaker 2: maybe you do get the block punt, maybe you know,
Speaker 2: some things kind of you get off the field, you
Speaker 2: get them off the field, that kind of thing, and
Speaker 2: you know, maybe if it was a more of an
Speaker 2: even game, you would have seen Dallas just run the
Speaker 2: football and like all of a sudden, it's like, okay,
Speaker 2: we're gonna make this a low scoring like like I predicted.
Speaker 2: I said, I thought it was gonna be a twenty
Speaker 2: to sixteen Dallas victory. And I was thinking that because
Speaker 2: I was thinking, Okay, Dallas will be able to find
Speaker 2: a way to run the ball, they'll play some defense.
Speaker 2: But once their defense started just giving up gash plays
Speaker 2: and big runs and Buffalo was not you know, Buffalo
Speaker 2: was holding the ball all day, I was like, oh man,
Speaker 2: this is just this is not going to work today.
Speaker 2: This is not going to work. But they never could.
Speaker 2: They never could get the game back into control. Those
Speaker 2: long drives, twelve plays, thirteen plays, seventy five yards, eight
Speaker 2: minutes off the clock. It's just that's just demoralizing, you
Speaker 2: know that. That's to me, that is the absolute worst
Speaker 2: way to lose a football game, when you have no
Speaker 2: answer to stop somebody from running the football.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree with you Amber that it's not an excuse.
Speaker 5: The one thing I will say is I do believe
Speaker 5: that because of their own doing, they got themselves into
Speaker 5: a hole where it's not conducive in that type of
Speaker 5: weather to get yourself out right, you get to that
Speaker 5: second half and the rain starts back up. That ain't
Speaker 5: the conditions that you're like, we're.
Speaker 4: Gonna have a way back up and throw it everything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you needed to have the league at that point.
Speaker 5: So yeah, they put themselves in the hole. But I
Speaker 5: do think the weather contributed them not being able to
Speaker 5: dig themselves out.
Speaker 2: I think I will say this though weather. I do
Speaker 2: like what Ambar said, because they do they prepped it,
Speaker 2: maybe over prepped it. Maybe it got into their head
Speaker 2: a little bit the way the tack looked like it
Speaker 2: was just so basic. But I will say this though,
Speaker 2: that that I'm gonna give Buffalo's defense a lot of credit.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I just think the way that they they didn't give
Speaker 2: you anything on the back end. They didn't give up
Speaker 2: any big plays. Any type of big play that they
Speaker 2: did give up, they were able to rally and not me.
Speaker 2: It was a sixteen yard pass or eighteen yard pass.
Speaker 2: That was about it. They didn't really give up any huge,
Speaker 2: thirty seven yard chunk plays that we've seen the previous
Speaker 2: seven weeks.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 6: But you know what, more than weather, I would say,
Speaker 6: the stadium. When you go into that stadium, it's so
Speaker 6: it feels very but it feels very intimate because of
Speaker 6: the way that it's constructed. It feels very intimate. Is
Speaker 6: it was extremely loud, Like the Bills fans showed up,
Speaker 6: they were there and most of the time, obviously because
Speaker 6: how the game was going, they were standing up, cheering,
Speaker 6: very very loud, banging on our windows and that was
Speaker 6: ridiculous and annoying. It but I think that that type
Speaker 6: of environment is harder to play, more so than the
Speaker 6: little sprinkle of rain that was happening.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they got an dan on Tyron Smith. All right,
Speaker 2: we got he's coming around.
Speaker 4: Is that the update.
Speaker 6: That's not very helpful. That's not a very helpful.
Speaker 2: Look.
Speaker 5: Sometimes you get good information. Sometimes you just say, Okay,
Speaker 5: he's learn anything, but.
Speaker 2: He's coming around. So I don't know. I mean, like
Speaker 2: I said, it's that's that's that's where we're that's a
Speaker 2: world we live in right now with Tyrone Smith and others.
Speaker 2: We just yeah, he's coming around. I will see how
Speaker 2: it works.
Speaker 5: I think we all know when it when it comes
Speaker 5: to neck and back, you got you should be turned
Speaker 5: until he clears it. Absolutely should be concerned because we've
Speaker 5: seen this before. And that's not a knock on him
Speaker 5: as much as it just that's reality. We've seen this before.
Speaker 5: You got to be aware and concerned until you see
Speaker 5: him clear.
Speaker 14: Ye.
Speaker 5: All right, Let's get a question here from Jakarrol Williams.
Speaker 5: He says, why not start Dante Fowler and move Parsons
Speaker 5: to linebacker? If they're having issues with linebacker they need
Speaker 5: more size at linebacker. Is this a prime opportunity to
Speaker 5: use one of your best players at linebacker?
Speaker 6: Mike are really a linebacker?
Speaker 4: He was in college?
Speaker 2: See he was. But this this what's funny. We we
Speaker 2: we're dancing this dance. You know, we've danced it all
Speaker 2: year now, we've conveniently I can't tell you how many times.
Speaker 2: And folks, trust me, I love you. I appreciate you
Speaker 2: out there. I appreciate you fans.
Speaker 15: But but, but the it's so funny because when you
Speaker 15: when you bring up the point of Micah Parsons being
Speaker 15: a linebacker, people will fight you tooth.
Speaker 2: And nail about it. He's not a linebacker. He's an
Speaker 2: edge rusher. Can't you see that if you put him
Speaker 2: at linebacker, he's not gonna be able to rush. He's
Speaker 2: not gonna be able to do everything. He affects the
Speaker 2: game more at linebacker. What the hell are you talking about?
Speaker 2: There's a reason why you're a fired scout because you
Speaker 2: don't know what the hell you're talking about. That's the
Speaker 2: arguments that I get. Then when you start to talk about,
Speaker 2: you know, linebacking is not you know, maybe they're struggling
Speaker 2: a little bit against the run, you know. Now and
Speaker 2: now it's like now everybody is flipped and they're saying, well,
Speaker 2: it's obvious he's a linebacker. Put him put him it
Speaker 2: off ball linebacker? What are you guys doing? What you
Speaker 2: what's your problem here, folks. This is in my opinion.
Speaker 2: You know what I've learned. He's an edge player. He
Speaker 2: is an edge player. He's a he is a He's
Speaker 2: one of the best defensive players in the National Football League.
Speaker 2: When you put him near the ball, when you put
Speaker 2: him down on the line, on the edge, or you
Speaker 2: put him inside against guards and centers who can't block
Speaker 2: him one on one, he is a weapon that way.
Speaker 2: He's not as effective as a linebackers as he is
Speaker 2: a down player. And you've got now, you've got to
Speaker 2: figure that out. You've got to figure out some other things.
Speaker 2: You are who you are right now because of the
Speaker 2: injuries to Overshown and to Van der Ash and others.
Speaker 2: That's that's that's who you are right now. But to
Speaker 2: sit there, I can't see how many people flip flop
Speaker 2: on this and I thought, yeah, he's a linebacker. I've
Speaker 2: always argued that he was a linebacker. But you watch
Speaker 2: him play and the way he affects games. He affects
Speaker 2: games more playing hand down than he does play this linebacker.
Speaker 6: Okay, after so long of watching him, you see where
Speaker 6: he thrives the most, and that is being on the
Speaker 6: line and pressuring the quarterback. It's kind of like Zach Martin.
Speaker 6: Can he play tackle, absolutely, but where is he best
Speaker 6: at a guard? So it's that type like it depends
Speaker 6: like where do you want Okay, do you want like
Speaker 6: him playing his best or because of the needs that
Speaker 6: you currently have, do you prefer moving him. He's still
Speaker 6: going to play good, but now you're kind of it
Speaker 6: depends like pick your well.
Speaker 5: But but here's the deal I think we're making it
Speaker 5: seem like it has to be all or none. The
Speaker 5: way I look at this is if you've got a
Speaker 5: team right now where by the way, the linebackers are
Speaker 5: playing right now are not linebackers. You want to talk
Speaker 5: about him being a linebacker, Well, the guys are linebacker
Speaker 5: on linebackers safety the state that you're bringing him down
Speaker 5: to play linebacker. So let's agree he's an edge player.
Speaker 5: But it does this edge player need to play linebacker
Speaker 5: because otherwise you're going to get it handed to you
Speaker 5: in the run, Like you can't stop the run game
Speaker 5: when these safeties are down there because you're giving up
Speaker 5: so much size. My question becomes if in a situation
Speaker 5: where maybe even early in the game or an early
Speaker 5: downs where you're more prone to see the run. You
Speaker 5: put him at linebacker and then on pass rush downs
Speaker 5: put him down so he can he can go get
Speaker 5: the quarterback.
Speaker 4: Can you do both?
Speaker 2: Right? Go back and watch the Green Bay game of
Speaker 2: him playing alf linebacker last year. They ran the ball
Speaker 2: for two hundred and forty sething yards of that game
Speaker 2: or more, I think Green Bay.
Speaker 4: So you don't think he can play off ball line.
Speaker 2: I don't think because you even even when you watched
Speaker 2: him in the Carolina game play linebacker, he ran around blocks,
Speaker 2: he jumped blocks. Yeah, you know sometimes, like you say,
Speaker 2: the biggest problem that that the Cowboys have right now
Speaker 2: is the lack of bulk, which you're trying to make
Speaker 2: up by putting Parsons in there as a bulk player. Yeah.
Speaker 2: But then but you also have to have the instincts
Speaker 2: to play. That's the to me.
Speaker 4: Did he have those instincts in college though?
Speaker 5: Because I think coming out we all thought he was
Speaker 5: a good off ball linebacker. We didn't know he had
Speaker 5: the pass rushing right.
Speaker 6: But to me, to me, we keep referring to college,
Speaker 6: but how long has it been already?
Speaker 4: Like he even got the incidentt you got the instinct
Speaker 4: ye right, don't see.
Speaker 2: That's the thing about it is, though, the prep work
Speaker 2: that he has to do to play off ball linebacker
Speaker 2: is a lot different than the prep work he has
Speaker 2: to do for for how you're how he's going to
Speaker 2: play as the edge. That's something you have to think
Speaker 2: about too. You know, you have to feel okay when
Speaker 2: you There's a reason why Sean Lee, Leyton vander Esch,
Speaker 2: guys like that are really good linebackers because they sit
Speaker 2: down and they study, and they read and they and
Speaker 2: they watch film and they do everything in their power
Speaker 2: to get ready for a game. And when somebody runs
Speaker 2: a formation, they're thinking like, Okay, we're about to get this.
Speaker 2: There's something to that. There's something to having to put
Speaker 2: in all that work to be that guy.
Speaker 5: So you can't just show up if you're playing edge
Speaker 5: and be like, Okay, today I'm playing linebacker.
Speaker 4: You got to really know it. You can prepare for.
Speaker 2: That, you absolutely have to. And so if that's if
Speaker 2: you know his preparation to have to do that, I'll
Speaker 2: be interested to see that. I'd be interested to see
Speaker 2: how much that works. But if you if when you
Speaker 2: play him at edge, he has a god given talent
Speaker 2: to rush the pass or wherever you put him. And
Speaker 2: but people are saying, well, Brian, it's not rushed the passer.
Speaker 2: We're playing the run. He could play the run. They
Speaker 2: run the ball at him too sometimes and some of
Speaker 2: the things when they run the ball at him, it's
Speaker 2: that awareness, it's that understanding what's happening. Yep. Things that
Speaker 2: you know, like I say, go back and watch the
Speaker 2: Green Bay game where he was off ball linebacker, and
Speaker 2: I think he's one. I think he's rare. I think
Speaker 2: he's an absolute rare player. But I'm going to try
Speaker 2: and figure out other things. And you're right, you're gonna
Speaker 2: get it handed to you in the running game because
Speaker 2: of what's going on with Dan trying and I keep
Speaker 2: saying this, the best defense for a run defense is
Speaker 2: an offense that scores a lot of pains because we've
Speaker 2: learned when when they don't. When when there's thirty five,
Speaker 2: thirty forty points a game for the Dallas Cowboys, nobody's
Speaker 2: running the ball on you. Yeah, you know that's that.
Speaker 2: At least this year, you have to you're gonna have
Speaker 2: to get around that.
Speaker 5: You're gonna have to till you get your linebacker's back right,
Speaker 5: all right, appreciate you guys.
Speaker 4: Jones. Tomorrow we will wrap this thing up.
Speaker 5: We'll let you know what we think is going to
Speaker 5: happen this Sunday till Livrat, Brian brot us An Amber Garcia,
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