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Speaker 4: That is a lie, just a hot dogs.

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Speaker 6: Lie.

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Speaker 4: Dare you wrap bastards?

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Speaker 3: Well done, well done? Just a hot dog?

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Speaker 7: Okay, but here we go.

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Speaker 4: Alright, then it's a Wednesday morning.

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Speaker 8: No, hey man, and we were there together, and uh,

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Speaker 8: that's so rude.

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Speaker 7: Literally all the support I give you, I.

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Speaker 3: Really thought you're gonna go a different direction.

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Speaker 5: Wait, I mean, what's your Depeche mode? Man, that's the

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Speaker 5: chaps with your booty out there. All those guys did well,

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Speaker 5: okay they did all right? I can't confirm.

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Speaker 7: I mean, that's that's cool. I was about the music.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, no iron cheek. Yeah you So.

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Speaker 5: The NFL Combine is in Indianapolis, and boy, oh boy,

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Speaker 5: are we hearing version after version of one side or

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Speaker 5: the other, you got a bunch of quarterbacks. It really

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Speaker 5: is the year of the quarterback of the off season,

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Speaker 5: and quarterback is going to be changing places as everybody

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Speaker 5: sort of jockeys for position when it comes to next

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Speaker 5: year in the NFL Draft, it feels like like with

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Speaker 5: Fernanda Mendoza and then you've got Ty Simpson, there seems

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Speaker 5: to be a drop off. And so one of the

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Speaker 5: teams that we've discussed a little bit here is the

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Speaker 5: Arizona Cardinals, and apparently not everybody's on the same page

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Speaker 5: with sort of what the messaging is in Arizona when

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Speaker 5: it comes to Kyler Murray, GM Monte. Austin Ford spoke

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Speaker 5: yesterday at the combine in Indianapolis and was sort of

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Speaker 5: explaining the communication, the conversations they've had with Kyler. Take

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Speaker 5: a listen, and then afterwards we'll fill in as to

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Speaker 5: why there might be a little bit of an issue

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I've had always had a good dialogue with Kyler,

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Speaker 9: and you know, I'd say, you know, it wasn't up

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Speaker 9: to what Kyler wanted.

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Speaker 3: It was up to you know, what any of us

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Speaker 9: And so you know, when you have the have the

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Speaker 9: kind of year that we had, there's a lot of

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Speaker 9: to find a way to do that, not only.

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Speaker 3: At that position, in all positions. But you know, that's all.

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Speaker 3: That's what we're all focused on, is getting.

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Speaker 6: Better and moving forward.

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Speaker 5: The problem with that is reportedly Kyler Murray and the

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Speaker 5: a communication breakdown between the two there as we are

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Speaker 5: headed for eventual divorce.

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Speaker 4: Whether that's trade.

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Speaker 5: Release, who the hell knows, but apparently one message being

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Speaker 5: Murray and his representatives are giving out publicly.

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Speaker 4: So there's there's your update on Kyler Murray.

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Speaker 3: I've got some theories as to why this would be

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Speaker 9: I mean the first is is there just like too much,

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Speaker 9: they're just two different places. Oh geez, I'm just saying.

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Speaker 9: And they didn't hear them. They was trying to talk

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Speaker 9: That's out a line.

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Speaker 3: Where would Cayler ben Jons.

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Speaker 7: Where would he be?

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Speaker 5: I mean, Kyler Murray could jump up and tie that

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Speaker 5: guy shoes, so scratch scratch.

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Speaker 4: So that's the pride, Like that's like, that's that's the.

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Speaker 7: Real issue here. Okay when it turns downtitude.

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Speaker 8: So you said they wasn't talking down to him, they

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Speaker 8: were trying to talk out to him.

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Speaker 4: I mean they probably don't want two.

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Speaker 7: Hey, what they're supposed to do? Man?

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Speaker 8: Can I ask a serious question? They're going to owe

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Speaker 8: him what nineteen some million dollars?

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Speaker 7: Right?

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Speaker 6: Uh? Well, how do you.

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Speaker 3: Want to how do you want to describe the contract situation?

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Speaker 8: I mean like if they cut him or well, I

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Speaker 8: don't think they're going to cut them. I think they'll

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Speaker 8: try to unload it. And then the question comes who

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Speaker 8: would take that type of.

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Speaker 9: His cap hits like fifty two and a half million

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Speaker 9: a little more than that, okay, cap hit meaning like

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Speaker 9: that's what's on the cap price season right right?

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Speaker 8: But they he's he's only oh, guaranteed money of nineteen

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Speaker 7: Is that is that wrong? Is that off? Is that all?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 9: That's wrong because because there's moneys that are that are

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Speaker 9: owed to him in the twenty twenty sixth season. If

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Speaker 9: they were to release him, for example, there'd be fifty

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Speaker 9: four point seven million on the dead cap. There's signing bonus,

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Speaker 9: uh paration.

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Speaker 3: There's roster bonus as well.

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Speaker 9: There's been you know, other things that have been involved

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Speaker 9: to option bonus paration.

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Speaker 8: It's a roster bonus. I guess what in March the roster.

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Speaker 8: But if they don't get rid of him by March sixteenth,

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Speaker 8: it's a I mean in my notes, this is nineteen

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Speaker 3: There's now there's well that we're in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 8: Six, right, but don't you have to pay that twenty

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Speaker 8: twenty seven bonus March of the year before prior?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, like that's the age.

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Speaker 9: It locks in. There's there's for this year. There was

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Speaker 9: one that was already locked in. I don't believe there's

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Speaker 8: Right anyway, here's here's what I'm ask though, that that's

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Speaker 7: As you guys would say.

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Speaker 3: Are you somebody's salary?

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Speaker 9: Here's salary Foy guarantees on the fifth day of the

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Speaker 9: nearly gear. But there's actually more in a salary than that.

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Speaker 8: Is there a better option out there for the Arizona

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Speaker 8: Cardinals would be my question, No, you're doing all We're

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Speaker 8: all of this is being discussed, all of these things

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Speaker 8: are being talked about. Who are you going You're going

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Speaker 8: to get Malik Willis? Is Malik Willis an upgrade to

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Speaker 8: Kyler Murray? No is Aaron Rodgers if he becomes available,

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Speaker 8: an upgrade to Kyler Murray? If Kirk Cousins becomes available?

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Speaker 8: Is he a option? A better option? Who is a

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Speaker 8: better option out there than what you already have in

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Speaker 8: Kyler Murray? Who's better better option?

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Speaker 7: I personally, I don't think anybody is to be honest

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Speaker 8: And I'm not saying that to say like one way

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Speaker 8: has not proven to be what he's needed to be

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Speaker 8: on a consistent basis at the league level. But my

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Speaker 8: question would be, if you're moving on from him, if

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Speaker 8: the plan is to move on from him, are you

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Speaker 8: getting it through the draft? Are you getting it in

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Speaker 8: free agency? Is this a long term play? Do you

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Speaker 8: have a plug in quarterback for this year? And so

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Speaker 8: it doesn't matter how good the next quarterback is how

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Speaker 8: do you approach this if you're the Arizona Cardinals, Because

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Speaker 8: I feel like the dilemma is there is no clear

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Speaker 8: answer to replacing what you already have.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I've said it before.

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Speaker 9: I just I don't see a world where it makes sense,

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Speaker 9: Like I don't know how the Cardinals get better. And

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Speaker 9: at the same time, you know, he's under contract, so

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Speaker 9: if he doesn't want to show up because he wants

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Speaker 9: to be somewhere else, they'd have to you know, they'd

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Speaker 9: be able to find him. He'd be some subject to

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Speaker 9: those fins all this stuff. To your point, they draft

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Speaker 9: third overall, I don't know that there's a quarterback. I

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Speaker 9: mean you could say Ty Simpson, Mendoza will be gone,

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Speaker 9: Mendoze will be the number one overall pick.

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Speaker 3: So now you're down to Ty Simpson. He's the only.

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Speaker 9: Guy that I've watched in this year's draft class that

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Speaker 9: I feel like could have potentially be taken in the

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Speaker 9: first round. And then outside of that, to your point,

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Speaker 9: you're looking at guys like Malik Willis, who's got some seasoning.

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Speaker 3: But Pete Prisco talked to us yesterday about this.

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Speaker 9: He doesn't have a ton of experience and so there's

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Speaker 9: still some question marks as far as what he's going

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Speaker 9: to be and when you look at some of his tape.

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Speaker 9: To Pete's point, after he said that yesterday, I went

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Speaker 9: all right, he's like leaving some clean pockets that in

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Speaker 9: the long run typically doesn't work. So to your point,

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Speaker 9: I'm with you, like, I don't know that there is

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Speaker 9: an up grade to their current situation, and so I

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Speaker 9: don't know why they filled the necessity to rebuild and

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Speaker 9: move on from him unless they feel like he's just

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Speaker 9: a big distraction. To your point about when they'll make

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Speaker 9: the decision, it's the fifth day of the new league year,

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Speaker 9: which you know it sets a deadline if you will

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Speaker 9: for this because obviously that becomes guaranteed. So if they

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Speaker 9: release him, you know, they still have to take on

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Speaker 9: the fifty four point seven million dollars cap hit. Now,

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Speaker 9: they could do a post June one designation that spreads

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Speaker 9: it out over the next two years, so it's not

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Speaker 9: as painful, and maybe that's the route that they'll go,

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Speaker 9: but it's I mean, his contract because the cap hit

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Speaker 9: is somewhat significant, and if they do end up paying

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Speaker 9: out that or if they end up guaranteeing that portion

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Speaker 9: of his salary, which is not that big, it's like

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Speaker 9: only twenty two point eight million, they would most likely

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Speaker 9: have to pay for the vast majority of that. So

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Speaker 9: I keep kind of going back to if he gets traded,

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Speaker 9: it's going to be in return for picks, because essentially

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Speaker 9: that portion of his base salary whatever he's ode, and

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Speaker 9: they'd pay a portion of that just to get back second, third,

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Speaker 3: Why lie.

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Speaker 10: Someone Someone's tell them the truth here, Either many is

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Speaker 6: But why like, why lie?

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Speaker 3: However, they do have the platform.

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Speaker 9: They are the ones that have oftentimes lied, right, They've

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Speaker 8: But then they say don't They say like habitual and

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Speaker 8: I mean, it could just potentially be you get so

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Speaker 3: Like an awful and ethical way of living.

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Speaker 6: Man.

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Speaker 8: Hey, man, If you were able to get the truth

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Speaker 7: When do you hear it?

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Speaker 8: When do you hear gms really tell the truth? Why

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Speaker 7: And you knew he was lying. You know he was lying,

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Speaker 7: Just is what it is. Brady's told me that for years.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you man, I would say, no one lies on

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Speaker 9: That's what That's what makes this conversation so interesting is

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Speaker 4: A second, I acknowledge that I did. I lose some bets.

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Speaker 9: I acknowledge bet some bets, not all of them, not

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Speaker 3: Your Saturday show.

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Speaker 9: Which no one on our show has any clue what

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Speaker 4: That's rude.

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Speaker 3: It's not rude. It's the Truth's the truth hurts, man.

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Speaker 6: Man?

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Speaker 9: All I know is the meat wagon was reading off

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Speaker 5: Really, Yeah, Chandler Morse of Virginia, Okay has decided, you

486
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Speaker 5: know what, at twenty five years old, I'd like to

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Speaker 5: come back. He has filed a lawsuit against the NCAA's

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Speaker 5: seeking a seventh year of eligibility. According to his agent,

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Speaker 5: who spoke with ESPN on Tuesday, Morris and his attorney's

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Speaker 5: filed a lawsuit in Charlottesville Circuit Court seeking a preliminary

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Speaker 5: injunction that has continued quest to be approved for one

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Speaker 5: more season of eligibility after his medical red shirt waiver

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Speaker 5: and appeal were denied by the NCAAA in January. I

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Speaker 5: let him back. In fact, you know what, give him

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Speaker 5: a two year deal. Why not, Let's roll this thing

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Speaker 5: all the way up into well past his mid twenties,

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Speaker 5: and let's just bring this guy back for more.

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Speaker 6: Why not?

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Speaker 4: What are we waiting on?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, here's the hard thing is, and I'm starting to

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Speaker 9: have an issue with all of this because it's just

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Speaker 9: about money. I mean, the reality is, well, Chandlan Morris

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Speaker 9: or could he get drafted but potentially might get a

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Speaker 9: shot in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: This is most.

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Speaker 9: Likely, you know, his last stop and he's a good

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Speaker 9: player that had a good year last year at UVA.

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Speaker 9: But if you go back to that twenty twenty two

509
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Speaker 9: season that his agent and he him are referring to,

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Speaker 9: not only did they break the red shirt rule that year,

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Speaker 9: really what happened was he got beat out. So he

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Speaker 9: got injured at the beginning of that season and had

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Speaker 9: a knee injury.

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Speaker 3: Max Duggan came in.

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Speaker 9: That's the year that TCU went to the National Championship,

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Speaker 9: So Dugan led TCUs that thirteen and two record historic

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Speaker 9: run for them. And so really Chandler Morris didn't come

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Speaker 9: back in until later on the season and kind of

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Speaker 9: mop up duty.

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Speaker 3: But he was healthy.

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Speaker 9: I mean, they're making a claim though that the only

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Speaker 9: reason why he played was because of mental health reasons,

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Speaker 9: which also doesn't make any sense because what happened the

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Speaker 9: following year when Dougan left go to try to go

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Speaker 9: play in the NFL was he got beat out again

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Speaker 9: by a freshman Josh Hoover. So more started the season

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Speaker 9: they lost. That was the first year you know coach Sanders,

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Speaker 9: Dion Prime, Shador Sanders, Travis Hunter. They were playing in

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Speaker 9: for Worth. That was that crazy game. Well, he was

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Speaker 9: the quarterback. He played the first half that season, got benched,

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Speaker 9: Hoover went in. Hoover since then has done tremendous been

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Speaker 9: a hot commodity. That's one of the reasons why he's

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Speaker 9: now Indiana trying to replace for Nanda Mendoza.

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Speaker 3: But that's what this is about, man, this.

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Speaker 9: Is just about him trying to earn extra money, exhaust

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Speaker 9: all if it's to play football, which I get that,

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Speaker 9: I understand that, but with him providing him an opportunity,

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Speaker 9: it takes one away from someone else.

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Speaker 3: It's like, come on, man, you had six years.

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Speaker 7: It's always again.

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Speaker 8: I think if somebody this will continue to be a

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Speaker 8: conversation of is the relevance of what the decision being made?

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Speaker 7: Does it?

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Speaker 8: Does it garner? Does it garner compassion? Does it garner understanding?

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Speaker 8: Or is it? Is it trying to take advantage of

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Speaker 8: the system. Well, when you hear mental health, right, yeah,

547
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Speaker 8: it's like you're trying you're trying to take advantage of

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Speaker 8: where the goal post have have currently found themselves. And I,

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Speaker 8: you know, I don't know what's right, what's wrong? I

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Speaker 8: think if you're in pursuit of your your your dreams,

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Speaker 8: in pursuit of your goals, I mean I don't know.

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Speaker 8: I don't know. I think this one. I don't know, man.

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Speaker 8: I just think that there there are so many conversations

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Speaker 8: that are ensuing on what's right and what's wrong. I mean,

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Speaker 8: it's like civil suits. Though anybody can do it, anybody

556
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Speaker 8: could take a chance to see where it's going to go.

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Speaker 8: I just wonder for how long is this going to

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Speaker 8: be a trend where you're trying to figure out when

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Speaker 8: somebody's done with school, like when are you done?

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Speaker 6: Well?

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Speaker 7: You can't anymore.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the hard part about all of this.

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Speaker 9: And I think again I keep looking at it, not

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Speaker 9: that it's happening in a mass way, but if if

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Speaker 9: this is becomes allowed, you're going to see more and

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Speaker 9: more guys doing it, And it just hurts more and

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Speaker 9: more high school athletes who they're not going to have

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Speaker 9: that opportunity to get to a place to grow and develop.

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Speaker 9: Like it's a perpetual issue in my mind, because you know,

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Speaker 9: we look at college as a very formidable time in

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Speaker 9: your life for development, you know, physical, mental, spiritual, Like, well,

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Speaker 9: however you want to look at it, but I think

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Speaker 9: we all look at those experiences of that timeframe from

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Speaker 9: eighteen to twenty two what it used to be and go, yeah,

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Speaker 9: this is this is where you become an adult. You

576
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Speaker 9: leave home, You go challenge the things that maybe you

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Speaker 9: were taught in your home and learn otherwise and figure

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Speaker 9: out what your own beliefs are. You go figure out

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Speaker 9: what you maybe want to do for the rest of

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Speaker 9: your life. And from a sport perspective, if you're blessed

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Speaker 9: enough to have the opportunity to go play professionally, great,

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Speaker 9: But this wasn't meant to be like a stop where

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Speaker 9: you're there for seven years trying to earn a bunch

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Speaker 9: of money.

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Speaker 3: Like I understand, you're trying to.

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Speaker 9: Take advantage of the situation, but that doesn't mean that

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Speaker 9: that's what's right. And so you sit there and you

588
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Speaker 9: look at some of these kids who they're working for

589
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Speaker 9: the opportunity to go play. They're working for all the

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Speaker 9: same things this guy is, and meanwhile they're trying to

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Speaker 9: kind of bend the rules or find a way of

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Speaker 9: just eking it out just another year.

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Speaker 3: And in mind, you have to understand Shanlan Morris is

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Speaker 3: he's been all over the place.

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Speaker 9: Hesually started Oklahoma, he was at TCU for three years,

596
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Speaker 9: had his best season in North Texas. Now last season

597
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Speaker 9: goes to UVA. So again he's had ample opportunities to

598
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Speaker 9: do this, And I do wonder what, you know, what

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Speaker 9: advice his dad's giving him. His dad's the OC at

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Speaker 9: A Clemson. He's been a longtime coach, and so maybe

601
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Speaker 9: this is part of it. Maybe he's saying to him, like, hey,

602
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Speaker 9: keep playing out your dream, keep doing it. But like

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Speaker 9: I would look at my son dead ass in the

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Speaker 9: face and say, dude, move on life, like like like

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Speaker 9: go find.

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Speaker 3: Out what's your pa.

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Speaker 9: Go take your passion to something else in life, and

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Speaker 9: go try to start there, because all you're doing is

609
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Speaker 9: delaying the inevitable. And look, maybe it's coaching, maybe it's

610
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Speaker 9: been around the game. Maybe he can he can go

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Speaker 9: play in the UFL or the Canadian Football League. Like

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Speaker 9: I don't know, but there's there's a reason why they

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Speaker 9: keep exhausting this. And look, I'm sure he'll find an

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Speaker 9: opportunity to go back to UVA based in the season

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Speaker 9: they had last year he did pretty good. But I

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Speaker 9: just I think this is harmful to all the other

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Speaker 9: younger people who it's taken an opportunity away, And if

618
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Speaker 9: this starts, there'll be a snowball effect. More people will

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Speaker 9: do it, and more kids who are graduating from high

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Speaker 9: school are gonna be impacted by it, and they're gonna

621
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Speaker 9: be forced to go somewhere else, and maybe it's a

622
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Speaker 9: lower level school, but then they have to transfer up.

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Speaker 9: And like, I just that's not what the college experience

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Speaker 9: for a lot of these athletes has been, in my opinion,

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Speaker 9: should be, Like there's a reason why you're supposed to

626
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Speaker 9: go to one place for the.

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Speaker 3: Entirety of it.

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Speaker 9: And LeVar, you and I talk about this all the time,

629
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Speaker 9: like the networking, building a foundation of people who not

630
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Speaker 9: only you you kind of grow with and build with,

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Speaker 9: but as mentors and everything else. When you jump around

632
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Speaker 9: to all these places, you don't like. No, I mean,

633
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Speaker 9: you get to know some people, but I mean, what

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Speaker 9: exactly are you? I mean when when Sheila Morris graduates,

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Speaker 9: is he is he a UVA grad? I mean he's

636
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Speaker 9: got he's got his undergrad at this point, I mean

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00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 9: his degrees probably from TCU. I have no idea if

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Speaker 9: he's even taking classes since and that's the last portion

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Speaker 9: of this is when you guys have guys who are

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Speaker 9: playing the seventh year, like he's he's not becoming a doctor,

641
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Speaker 9: he's not becoming an attorney. So like, what's the point then,

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Speaker 9: because we've basically got professional athletes who.

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Speaker 3: Aren't even taking classes. The entire system is messed up.

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Speaker 9: If that's where this is going, just start a new

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Speaker 9: league and then figure out how.

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Speaker 3: You're going to make this.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, maybe that's a way for you to actually be

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Speaker 8: able to grow the UF, you.

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Speaker 7: Know what I mean, Like why not why not enter

651
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Speaker 7: him into there?

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Speaker 5: But like this is you know, you're talking about the

653
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Speaker 5: developmental stage to where that like those years are where

654
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Speaker 5: you find out what path you want to take in life. Like,

655
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Speaker 5: you get there and it kind of guides you in

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Speaker 5: what path you want to.

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Speaker 7: Take in life.

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Speaker 5: So like, let's say he wanted to get into coaching

659
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 5: and follow along, you know, at his dad's footsteps, the like,

660
00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 5: you can be a graduate assistant right away, right like,

661
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 5: once you graduate, you can you can be on a

662
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 5: staff and start taking that path. So even though he really,

663
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 5: you know, he's probably looking at this as like, well,

664
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:09,479
Speaker 5: you know, this is you know, maybe one last chance

665
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,280
Speaker 5: to make you know, a decent amount of money.

666
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 4: You're delaying your ability to start your career.

667
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 5: If you're taking this approach right, like like you just

668
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 5: keep going back to the well and exhausting the efforts,

669
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 5: knowing based on multiple years of evidence, there probably isn't

670
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 5: anything beyond this. And I just I look at it

671
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 5: and I go, what, Like, why hasn't there been more

672
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 5: of a thought of.

673
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 4: All right, what do you want to do long term?

674
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 5: Like you know Cam McCormick, Like, I don't know if

675
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,280
Speaker 5: that guy was, you know, trying to be a doctor,

676
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 5: but that guy was at Miami until he was like

677
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 5: forty five and at some point, dude, Like it's like

678
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 5: Cam McCormick was part of the recruiting class at Oregon

679
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 5: that brought in Justin Herbert, and I think he just

680
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:56,360
Speaker 5: ended his college run.

681
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 4: Like so I look at it, I go, what's the plan?

682
00:34:59,800 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 6: Man?

683
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 8: Like I can't And what's the point? Like what are you?

684
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 8: Like in your mind? You wake up every day and

685
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 8: you're looking in the mirror and you're sitting there and

686
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 8: you have to accept the fact that this is who

687
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:17,840
Speaker 8: you are, Like you're going to breakfast training table and

688
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 8: these guys are you're you're old enough to be you know,

689
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,319
Speaker 8: their big uncle, you know what I mean? Like your

690
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 8: brother's with their dad, you know what I mean, Like

691
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 8: I don't get it. At some point you gotta let

692
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,319
Speaker 8: it go. Like hey, man, get over here, go get go,

693
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 8: grab me that box of rice crispies. Man, Like what like,

694
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 8: get out of here, go grab the remote for me. Man,

695
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 8: I need to change the channel, turn the light off

696
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 8: for me on your way out, Like y'all here, son.

697
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 7: And dudes, you.

698
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 3: Way old.

699
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 8: It's like it's almost like old school, like like college

700
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:53,320
Speaker 8: football is turning into old school, like we're going streaked.

701
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 8: Like I don't know, man, I think everybody should have

702
00:35:56,840 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 8: an opportunity to chase their dreams. I do, but I

703
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,879
Speaker 8: do think that there needs to be a clear definition

704
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 8: of what extended eligibility looks like, and it needs to

705
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 8: be in some cases it needs to be a little

706
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 8: bit more black and white. Sorry, I'm sorry, but I'm

707
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 8: not sorry. It needs to be a little bit more

708
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,800
Speaker 8: black and white. There's so many gray areas that create

709
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 8: these conversations and for what it's worth, Like when when

710
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 8: your time expires to be able to compete at the

711
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 8: college level, I mean, either decide that it never expires,

712
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 8: or it has it expires at this point in time,

713
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 8: How do you do that. I don't know, don't. I

714
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 8: don't have the answer for that.

715
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 9: And the entire crux of this injunction they're filing it

716
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 9: goes back to this, you know, mental health portion of

717
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 9: why he played back in twenty twenty two, which there's

718
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 9: two ways of looking at it.

719
00:36:59,280 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 3: One way is.

720
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:03,240
Speaker 9: Saying, well, it's legitimate, and if that was the case

721
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 9: and they only played him because it was good for

722
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 9: his mental health, then you know it should be looked into,

723
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,319
Speaker 9: you know, looked more into. But it sounds like some

724
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 9: of the documentation they sent was, you know, maybe via Virginia,

725
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 9: not TCU, whatever the case may be. It sounds kind

726
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 9: of flimsy because it sounds like some of the stuff

727
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 9: that people were using before the transfer portal became a

728
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 9: thing where if you wanted to go transfer out and

729
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 9: be eligible immediately, you would file for a hardship waiver

730
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 9: and you could say a lot of things in that

731
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 9: hardship waiver.

732
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 3: And depending on how you said it, what you said,

733
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 3: and sea people don't want to challenge it. They just

734
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 3: be like, yep, well, grant you the waiver. And I

735
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,360
Speaker 3: feel like we're getting kind of back to that.

736
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:49,879
Speaker 9: Where I don't like and this is the other way

737
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 9: of looking at it is if now we're using mental

738
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 9: health as an avenue to be able to get to

739
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 9: what we want in the sense of like abusing it, right, Like,

740
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 9: there are people out there who have legitimate mental health

741
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:08,839
Speaker 9: issues and they're getting treated for it, and there's there,

742
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 9: you know, there's some scary potential situations. So I just

743
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 9: that's my concern, and I.

744
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,919
Speaker 8: Don't want to see a big way right wrote with

745
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 8: ron Dale, like we just saw one playoff.

746
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 9: Yeah, And that's where I look at it and just say, man,

747
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:28,240
Speaker 9: don't don't abuse that. Like if it was legitimately something, okay,

748
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 9: but let's let's go back and let's not go back

749
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 9: and make revision this history too just to get another.

750
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:35,279
Speaker 3: Year of eligibility. I mean this was almost you know,

751
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 3: four years ago.

752
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,840
Speaker 9: I just I look at this and say, like, was

753
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 9: he claiming for this or trying to get back that

754
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 9: extra year of eligibility after North Texas? And because you

755
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,800
Speaker 9: really should have been like saying, hey, that twenty twenty

756
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 9: two year shouldn't count it. But now it is the

757
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,320
Speaker 9: only time accounts because hey, at a good year in

758
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 9: North Texas, good year of UVA. Now I can get paid.

759
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:00,839
Speaker 9: And that's the thing when I say like living out

760
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 9: their dreams, it's about money too. Like he knows he

761
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 9: can get paid to come back, be the starting quarterback, whatever,

762
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 9: And that's that's where we're at. And I think that's

763
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 9: what I hate about this is like, it's not it's

764
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 9: not what it used to be in college football. And

765
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 9: if you're gonna make it a pro league, then make

766
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 9: it a pro league. You know, figure out a way

767
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 9: of structure this whole thing where we don't have to

768
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,760
Speaker 9: worry about the educational component. We don't have to rely

769
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 9: on a flimsy argument about you know, what mental health

770
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 9: would have been when you should have been clamoring for

771
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 9: that extra year back from.

772
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 3: Twenty twenty three.

773
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 9: Moving forward, it shouldn't just be this year then if

774
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 9: you had a legitimate gripe about it. But now it

775
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 9: comes up that's I don't know. That part of it

776
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,319
Speaker 9: bothers me and I think it's concerning too moving forward

777
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 9: to see if this is successful, other people would end up.

778
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:50,320
Speaker 3: Doing it too.

779
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 9: And again it's not right for the future of you know,

780
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 9: student athletes, football players, everyone else who either have legitimate

781
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 9: mental health issues or b two, you're taking away opportunity.

782
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 5: From I always wonder about this because we don't know

783
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 5: until you know. Obviously we know in the moment for

784
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 5: the most part, but what COVID did just sort of

785
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 5: twenty twenty, what it did, you know, the impact that

786
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:15,439
Speaker 5: it's had long term, and then you start to see

787
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 5: the health impact and all that. I do wonder if

788
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 5: we'll ever get a clear answer as to how much

789
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 5: damage that year and the stop of the season and

790
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,720
Speaker 5: setting back all these athletes, because I know my nephew

791
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 5: was in high school during that time, and that set

792
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,280
Speaker 5: everybody back, like that set everybody back with recruiting.

793
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 3: That's the weird thing.

794
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 7: It's even enough time though for that he was.

795
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:45,280
Speaker 3: In He's played in forty six games. Forty six games, Like, come.

796
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 7: On, man, there's been enough time.

797
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 5: I just but it's is that sort of where things

798
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 5: got sideways to where people, oh, he's one.

799
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 3: Of those COVID players.

800
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 9: He's like the last one as far as getting that

801
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,359
Speaker 9: year that you didn't even count against it even though

802
00:40:58,360 --> 00:40:58,800
Speaker 9: he played.

803
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:04,320
Speaker 8: I can I can see people exercising that mental health,

804
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 8: you know, asset coming out of a COVID year. But

805
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:15,240
Speaker 8: come on, like, let's at some point you know, that's

806
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 8: that duration of time.

807
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 7: Has worn it.

808
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:20,399
Speaker 5: Listen, man, people are still walking around with masks. Hey, right,

809
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 5: right or wrong?

810
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:24,319
Speaker 8: I understand, but that doesn't mean but that doesn't mean

811
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 8: you still have to live in it though. That doesn't

812
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:31,919
Speaker 8: mean I'm still going to subscribe to what COVID life.

813
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 8: Life was like when COVID what do you what are

814
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 8: you talking about? What?

815
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:40,280
Speaker 5: I just saw you pull out a disinfected spray bottle

816
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 5: right in front of Ben literally Ben Maler was packing

817
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 5: up his bag and the whole pulled this thing out

818
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 5: like it was a blowtorch and literally sprayed the entire

819
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 5: desk seat. Mike not wife's full blown liesol can at

820
00:41:58,320 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 5: half empty.

821
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,880
Speaker 7: All that's just being That's all you know.

822
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:06,360
Speaker 4: COVID changed you, man, maybe right right in front of

823
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:06,879
Speaker 4: Ben's right.

824
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:07,879
Speaker 7: In front of Ben's face.

825
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:13,720
Speaker 8: And I have no shame about it either, Yeah about it?

826
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 7: Not bad?

827
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 6: All right?

828
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 5: Well, listen, Good luck to Chandler Morris who looks to

829
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:24,280
Speaker 5: celebrate his thirtieth birthday at the Virginia as he's starting quarterback.

830
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,399
Speaker 7: So birthday, by the way.

831
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Speaker 3: Okay, So it's time to change, is what you're saying.

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Speaker 5: tradition here every morning. He is Petros Papadakis. He is

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Speaker 5: the co host of the Petros and Money Show, which

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Speaker 5: you can hear on the blowtorch Am five seventy LA

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Speaker 5: sports Fox college football analyst and you can find him

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Speaker 5: on X at the old p Petros, good morning.

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Speaker 6: Good morning, Hi Petros, Hello everybody. What up?

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Speaker 14: Be good to hear from you. It's great to hear

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Speaker 14: from you. Yeah, that's right here every Wednesday. Yes, indeed,

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Speaker 14: Petros Peters.

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Speaker 5: Would you have any interest in going to the combine

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Speaker 5: in Indianapolis?

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Speaker 6: Never?

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Speaker 14: Okay, my radio partner goes every year and regales us

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Speaker 14: with stories of hand size and interview rumors. And this

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Speaker 14: is what this GM said in this press conference, and

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Speaker 14: Hugh Jackson was holding court at the bar at the

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Speaker 14: Marriott or whatever, and no, I have no interest. I've

893
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Speaker 14: watched enough guys in my life run the forty and

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Speaker 14: I don't want to anymore.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 14: Every once in a while a guy runs the forty

897
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Speaker 14: and you say, damn, that guy's fast, and then I

898
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Speaker 14: don't want to watch stiff ass rich eyes and run it.

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Speaker 6: I don't care.

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Speaker 3: Petro's.

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Speaker 9: Is there also a concern that if you went, you

902
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Speaker 9: would have to potentially go by their version of the

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Speaker 9: radio row with all.

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Speaker 6: Those Yeah, I don't want to see those guys either.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the turkey baking collar guys.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, there's a lot of that as well, probably an

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Speaker 14: even more specialized group at the combine. And the other

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Speaker 14: thing is is there's just way, way too many.

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Speaker 6: Quote unquote football experts.

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Speaker 14: You know, the further you get away from the games,

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00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:28,879
Speaker 14: the further you get away from running the ball and

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Speaker 14: throwing the ball and the stuff getting an ad out

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Speaker 14: of the huddle, the stuff that makes football football with

914
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 14: the clock running and everybody yelling on the sideline, that's

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Speaker 14: really football.

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Speaker 6: The further you get.

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Speaker 14: Away from that, the weirder the sport gets the further

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Speaker 14: you get away from the field. And it's interesting, like

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Speaker 14: some guys, the further you get away from the field,

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Speaker 14: the better they look. And some guys, the further you

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Speaker 14: get away from the field, the less likely it seems

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Speaker 14: that they could be a good football player, even though

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Speaker 14: you know that they are.

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Speaker 3: So we confuse ourselves a whole lot.

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Speaker 14: In the off season, I think when it comes to football,

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Speaker 14: and I think there's probably a lot of that on

927
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Speaker 14: that radio row in which I would rather not be involved.

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Speaker 9: I can I tell a quick story, by the way

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Speaker 9: to your points about like who they let in there.

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Speaker 9: One of the years I had to like get a

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Speaker 9: credential for whatever reason there was there's an issue with

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Speaker 9: like being able to have a producer or someone get it.

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Speaker 9: And so I was waiting this long line, and I

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Speaker 9: was listening to some of the people that were credentialed

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Speaker 9: for the combine. One of the names and I swear

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Speaker 9: to you, I am not making this up. Okay, that

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Speaker 9: got credentialed was like I love your mom's mock draft

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Speaker 9: dot com.

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Speaker 6: Okay, Like, well.

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Speaker 3: That's they get access. It's maybe I don't even if

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Speaker 3: it's still in existence.

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Speaker 9: This is probably eight or nine years ago, but I

943
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 9: remember when I heard that, I go, oh wow, you

944
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Speaker 9: can basically get in this thing.

945
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Speaker 3: As long as you just create a website.

946
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Speaker 9: You can claim you're some sort of mock draft expert

947
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Speaker 9: that should be in there rubbing shoulders with some of

948
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Speaker 9: the top brass of the NFL, asking them about what

949
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Speaker 9: they're going to do with their draft picks this year, and.

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Speaker 6: What is a good mock draft.

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Speaker 14: I mean, the mock draft is really the people that

952
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Speaker 14: are into those things. God bless you, and God bless

953
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Speaker 14: you for being interested and doing whatever research or just

954
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Speaker 14: talking out of your ass. What's the difference between talking

955
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Speaker 14: out of your ass and doing the actual research. I mean,

956
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Speaker 14: no one really knows what's going to happen with the

957
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Speaker 14: draft every year. It kind of falls into place the

958
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Speaker 14: way it does. We waste a lot of air on this,

959
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Speaker 14: but it's part of what the NFL has been able

960
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Speaker 14: to do with their brand, which is make their off

961
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Speaker 14: season really interesting to somebody, get people to talk about

962
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Speaker 14: like the draft. Like to me, the draft is not

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Speaker 14: a very exciting or interesting thing, and it's become one

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Speaker 14: of the biggest events that the NFL puts on every

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Speaker 14: year that's not in the season.

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Speaker 6: So I mean, maybe I'm just.

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Speaker 14: Too old and too bitter and too crotchety and crusty

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Speaker 14: for what's new, But it's hard to get excited about

969
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Speaker 14: off season NFL stuff for me that there's not enough there.

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Speaker 14: And college football is the same way. I mean, I

971
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Speaker 14: want the games, and if we don't have the games,

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Speaker 14: get out of the way and let somebody else play games.

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Speaker 6: I don't like.

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Speaker 14: I really don't like how the sports franchises at the

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Speaker 14: sports entities like the NHL, the NBA, the NFL, whatever,

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Speaker 14: how they all jockey for position to be discussed when

977
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Speaker 14: they're not actually playing. You know what, I mean, and

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Speaker 14: college football is one of the worst because our off

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Speaker 14: season is so stupid and so counterproductive to what the

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Speaker 14: season is supposed to represent. But yeah, I'd like for

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Speaker 14: teams to be a little bit more dormant in the

982
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Speaker 14: off season, for for sports leagues to be more dormant. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 14: we don't live in that time.

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Speaker 7: Petros.

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Speaker 8: We were having conversation earlier about quarterbacks. If if you

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Speaker 8: had your brothers, what where would you look for a quarterback?

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Speaker 8: If if your team needed a quarterback this off season,

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Speaker 8: would it be in the draft or would it be

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Speaker 8: one of these guys that are in free agency? What

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Speaker 8: do I get traded for? I get Derek Carr out

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Speaker 8: of retirement.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, with his makeup and or just very thick, very

993
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Speaker 14: thick eye lashes. Wait, wait a second, I don't think

994
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Speaker 14: he wears makeup, but he looks like a goth check.

995
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Speaker 6: Just walking around. He's on the craft, showing it all, showing.

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Speaker 3: It all up with him for a few years.

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Speaker 6: Is he a nice guy?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's super cool. Dude, seems like a nice guy.

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Speaker 7: He is.

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Speaker 14: Throwing it short. I don't know, Well, you're thinking of

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Speaker 14: David car I think, yeah, you said, I said Darrel.

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Speaker 14: I thought you said David. Derek's Derek's the one that

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Speaker 14: might play right. David is the one that got blown

1004
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Speaker 14: up in Texas over and over and over and over

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Speaker 14: and over and over.

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Speaker 8: And that's the one I thought I heard you say, David. Well,

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Speaker 8: one of the cars, one of them. Yeah, one of

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Speaker 8: those guys.

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Speaker 14: Aaron Rodgers is floating around with the bags under his

1010
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Speaker 14: eyes like mine.

1011
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Speaker 6: Dang h we call those butthole eyes.

1012
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 7: Oh wow, why is that?

1013
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Speaker 14: Why do you call them butthole eyes? Because they look

1014
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Speaker 14: like buttholes? You have me to send you a picture

1015
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 14: of myself.

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Speaker 6: I look like your.

1017
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Speaker 7: Face the same.

1018
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Speaker 5: Ever again, Petro, didn't somebody say that about Pete Davidson.

1019
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Speaker 7: He got really upset about it.

1020
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Speaker 14: He's the original butthole eyes. But Blake Snell has got

1021
00:51:54,120 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 14: butthole eyes. There's a lot of us out there. We're

1022
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Speaker 14: a proud group. And Aaron Rodgers he's he's, he's he's

1023
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Speaker 14: injured the butthhole eyes era of his of his quarterback days.

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Speaker 14: Uh so you get one of these old dudes that

1025
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Speaker 14: throws it short, or I get Fernie Mendoza.

1026
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Speaker 6: Is that when you're asking me?

1027
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Speaker 8: I mean, yeah, I mean, are you a subscriber of Mendoza? Like,

1028
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Speaker 8: it doesn't sound like.

1029
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Speaker 14: I liked him a lot when he was at cal

1030
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Speaker 14: and then I got to like him more and more

1031
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Speaker 14: and more when he was at Indiana, of course, and

1032
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 14: enjoyed every interview and and I feel like he's the

1033
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Speaker 14: genuine article as far as a person.

1034
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Speaker 6: I don't think he's putting on a hat.

1035
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 7: No, it's not an act.

1036
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Speaker 6: And I like him. I like him a lot. Now,

1037
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Speaker 6: how does that like him?

1038
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Speaker 8: How about to say you like him for your team

1039
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Speaker 8: if you were, if you were picking, if you needed

1040
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Speaker 8: to get a QB this year, you're you like him Mendoza?

1041
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Speaker 14: Well, you know, I mean, what am I at the

1042
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Speaker 14: draft of my credit siled or something?

1043
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Speaker 6: What are you doing?

1044
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Speaker 7: You?

1045
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 6: You know?

1046
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Speaker 7: I respect your opinion.

1047
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Speaker 5: First, well, first time he gets, first time he gets

1048
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Speaker 5: a proposition by a hooker outside the luxe.

1049
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Speaker 7: Or is going to be a wild knife riend?

1050
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 6: Like you think you'll actually call the number on one

1051
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 6: of those cards. Yeah, they said they don't do that anymore. Man.

1052
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:17,160
Speaker 7: That was when we were kids.

1053
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 8: They answer the card or get you see the newspaper,

1054
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 8: but it wasn't really a newspaper. And haggling on the

1055
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:28,320
Speaker 8: price was just all it's La Express. Come on U,

1056
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:33,799
Speaker 8: Rhode Island slot. Remember that we're going to get in

1057
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 8: there and grab.

1058
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Speaker 7: Me right now.

1059
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:40,280
Speaker 14: My bad petros No, you remember the Rhode Island slid

1060
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 14: with the big ass hat.

1061
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Speaker 6: To me.

1062
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 14: I mean, you guys know, and you guys know better

1063
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 14: than me. The game of football is so circumstantial. And

1064
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 14: picking your quarterback and and and getting him on your

1065
00:53:57,000 --> 00:54:00,479
Speaker 14: team and assimilating and doing all that different stuff. There's

1066
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:05,800
Speaker 14: so many factors involved, and one success story is another failure,

1067
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Speaker 14: just depending on the people that are there and the

1068
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Speaker 14: situation that's at hand.

1069
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Speaker 6: And I don't know.

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Speaker 14: I think Ferdie Mendoza is one of those quarterbacks where

1071
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Speaker 14: he's going to need the circumstances to be right for

1072
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 14: him to have a good chance to have success, I think.

1073
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Speaker 14: But that's the same thing for most quarterbacks. I mean,

1074
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 14: football is really circumstantial. If you put Justin Herbert on

1075
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 14: the Bills, they have they won a Super Bowl?

1076
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 7: I don't know.

1077
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Speaker 14: If you put Josh Allen on the Chargers, have they

1078
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 14: won a Super Bowl? You know, it's just it's such

1079
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 14: a weird chemistry experiment.

1080
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:47,840
Speaker 6: I mean, it's.

1081
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Speaker 14: Easy to be on radio and say, yes, this is

1082
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 14: my guy. I love this guy. I think he's great.

1083
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:54,880
Speaker 14: I mean, there's people that said that about Johnny Manziel,

1084
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 14: people that are respected football people that know what the

1085
00:54:58,280 --> 00:54:59,320
Speaker 14: hell they're talking about.

1086
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Speaker 9: We're wrong.

1087
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Speaker 14: I mean, don't get me started about Akiley Smith and

1088
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 14: all the different people from my era that didn't work

1089
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 14: out for one reason or another. Now there's some guys

1090
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:15,239
Speaker 14: like JaMarcus Russell who are sucking on codeine drinks and

1091
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:16,520
Speaker 14: they just don't have a chance.

1092
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Speaker 6: Right, Like, you're drinking lean every.

1093
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Speaker 14: Day and you're the number one pick, the circumstance of

1094
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:26,040
Speaker 14: being picked by the raider. Sure, that doesn't help you,

1095
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:29,239
Speaker 14: but the lean is what's going to take you down.

1096
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:31,319
Speaker 14: The circumstance of the lean.

1097
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 6: Am I wrong?

1098
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 7: No you're not, ma'am.

1099
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 6: Hold up, I got too much drink?

1100
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 7: Oh no?

1101
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 6: Hold up?

1102
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 8: Oh no, yes, so you got to do it a

1103
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:48,000
Speaker 8: little bit more chopped though.

1104
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:49,200
Speaker 6: Well I can't.

1105
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 7: Oh I'll cup, ma'am. Hold up, that's not bad.

1106
00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:00,399
Speaker 6: It's the big tack I got to swing. It's all

1107
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 6: my trap.

1108
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 8: It still isn't country enough, though. You gotta get that

1109
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 8: owl hole.

1110
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 6: In my expedition to Wiship got my part up.

1111
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:19,800
Speaker 15: Crack in the tension, Yeah, in the tension, little rise

1112
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:24,880
Speaker 15: on the mission, Yeah yeah, all right, yeah it shuts

1113
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:30,720
Speaker 15: out if you're drinking, if you're chopped and screwed, yeah,

1114
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:32,360
Speaker 15: you probably don't have a chance.

1115
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:33,439
Speaker 8: Tang.

1116
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 6: But but because that's.

1117
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:37,319
Speaker 8: Really how you hear the world around you is from

1118
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:39,960
Speaker 8: what I hear, from what I gather, that's what the

1119
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:42,439
Speaker 8: world sounds like when you hear it. So if you're

1120
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:45,319
Speaker 8: like under center or on the field, and that's what

1121
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:46,879
Speaker 8: you're hearing, that's that's gotta be.

1122
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:54,720
Speaker 15: Blue thirty two, Dang, Blue thirty two, Blue Blue, Blue Blue.

1123
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 6: I mean, I know R.

1124
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 14: Kelly is a bad I mean, it turned out everybody

1125
00:56:58,040 --> 00:56:59,239
Speaker 14: in music is like R.

1126
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 6: Kelly. But well, am I wrong?

1127
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:02,279
Speaker 5: No?

1128
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:05,719
Speaker 3: Oh, way to that point. I'll still stand by this.

1129
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 3: If you put on R.

1130
00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 9: Kelly in certain places, it doesn't matter what he's done,

1131
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 9: people are gonna get up and start dancing, telling.

1132
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 6: You if you you're you're absolutely right about that.

1133
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 7: It was big on the Island. I can't do.

1134
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:18,479
Speaker 6: It, you can't.

1135
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 8: I can't, Yes, I can't think of and and some

1136
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 8: of his songs are my favorite songs, like Honey is

1137
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 8: one of me. Honey, love is one of my favorite

1138
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 8: songs ever, and I can't I've never listened to it.

1139
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 14: I can't listen to R Kelly in real speed huh

1140
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 14: because I had the R Kelly chopped and screwed for years.

1141
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 6: So you know, I can't listen.

1142
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 8: You know, you knew people aren't following what you do now,

1143
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 8: but if you know, you know.

1144
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:03,720
Speaker 14: They don't know about Michael five thousand watts switcher house.

1145
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 7: Oh my gosh, I got a Swiss your house starter?

1146
00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 6: Is that right?

1147
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 7: No? I wish I did. Oh I'm not.

1148
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:14,439
Speaker 6: Is that right.

1149
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:18,120
Speaker 7: I'm about to start talking to you and our language. Well,

1150
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 7: say dig man, what you're talking about here?

1151
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 8: Man?

1152
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:25,520
Speaker 6: Oh? Say yeah, that's a very huston thing. Say dog he.

1153
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 7: Say, hey, say man, what you're talking about?

1154
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 6: Mike?

1155
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 14: So so I mean that the codeine drink is just

1156
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:37,480
Speaker 14: one of the many falls of being a football player.

1157
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 14: So you know, I mean, and I always say this

1158
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:42,440
Speaker 14: about people. Guys are like, oh, this guy's went back

1159
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:45,200
Speaker 14: when we used to care about recruiting, when every team

1160
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:47,920
Speaker 14: didn't have like twenty twenty five year old dudes.

1161
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:48,919
Speaker 7: Uh.

1162
00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 14: And it wasn't b y u h when we used

1163
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 14: to talk about that. People used to say, well, this

1164
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:57,040
Speaker 14: car is gonna be the best, and I'd be like, well,

1165
00:58:57,080 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 14: you know, there's these things that stand in the way.

1166
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:02,439
Speaker 14: There's school, which is not really an issue anymore because

1167
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:05,040
Speaker 14: all the classes are online. Uh.

1168
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:07,280
Speaker 6: There's there's girls.

1169
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:10,440
Speaker 14: You know, you can knock up a woman or something

1170
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 14: like that, or baby mamas start fighting or something goes

1171
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:14,000
Speaker 14: down there.

1172
00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:18,520
Speaker 6: There's uh, there's the lean. Uh, there's drugs.

1173
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 14: There's he's just not good enough at this level or

1174
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:24,040
Speaker 14: won't put in the world. I mean, there's so many

1175
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:27,680
Speaker 14: factors along with the circumstance of your team and who's

1176
00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:29,440
Speaker 14: in front of you and who's behind you, and this

1177
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 14: or that. I mean, what if you're the starting safety

1178
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:35,200
Speaker 14: at USC and all of a sudden they bring in

1179
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 14: some kid that nobody knows, the last recruit on the

1180
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 14: in the recruiting class. They bring him in as a

1181
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:45,160
Speaker 14: favor to the to a running back coach that's somewhere

1182
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:48,680
Speaker 14: else at the time, and that kid turns out to

1183
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:49,800
Speaker 14: be Troy Polamalu.

1184
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 6: You're like, oh my god.

1185
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:55,240
Speaker 14: You know that's a circumstance that changes, uh, the way

1186
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:56,440
Speaker 14: your career is gonna go.

1187
00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 6: And there's so much of that in football.

1188
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:01,880
Speaker 14: It's like a Plinko uh you know, remember that old

1189
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:05,360
Speaker 14: Price is Right game where you know, I mean, we're

1190
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 14: all just those things falling on Plinko and football unless

1191
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:13,200
Speaker 14: you're transcended, you know, like a LeVar Arrington, Oh, Brady Quinn.

1192
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:15,480
Speaker 14: You know guys like that, big guys that walk in

1193
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:17,720
Speaker 14: the room and you're like, oh god, that's our quarterback er.

1194
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:21,480
Speaker 14: There's our Mike Becker, that's the that's the that's our

1195
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 14: whole defense, you know, the whole that's and sometimes those

1196
01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:28,040
Speaker 14: guys can you go into an NFL team and and

1197
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:30,160
Speaker 14: and you guys know, it's it's not the same. You

1198
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:33,600
Speaker 14: got to reassimilate yourself and the whole thing. So it's

1199
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:36,880
Speaker 14: such a complex question, like where where would you go

1200
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:39,360
Speaker 14: with Ferdie Mindos? It's like, I don't know, but I

1201
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:42,720
Speaker 14: like I like the kid. I I think he's I

1202
01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:45,480
Speaker 14: think he's earned the number one pick status.

1203
01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:47,960
Speaker 6: Let's just put it like that. Let me although he

1204
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:50,040
Speaker 6: does look like a goofy ass when he tucks it.

1205
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 3: And runs, that's one way of putting it.

1206
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:56,000
Speaker 6: Go ahead. It doesn't mean he can't runs.

1207
01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:58,640
Speaker 5: Get on the subject of you know, somebody comes in

1208
01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:00,800
Speaker 5: and you just know immediately they're to take a job.

1209
01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:02,640
Speaker 5: Do you can you think of somebody while you were

1210
01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:06,000
Speaker 5: at USC your man came right in and you guys

1211
01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:07,280
Speaker 5: knew right away that guy time.

1212
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:09,240
Speaker 14: When we put on pads, he just like started taking

1213
01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:11,120
Speaker 14: the ball from running backs and going the other way,

1214
01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:18,280
Speaker 14: and everybody's like, what somebody, what's this guy doing? You know,

1215
01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:21,040
Speaker 14: Carson Palmer, you know, he comes in and starts throw

1216
01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:22,440
Speaker 14: the ball through people's face.

1217
01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 6: That's usually a little bit.

1218
01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:31,480
Speaker 14: We had a dominant mike linebacker, like like LeVar, we

1219
01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:33,760
Speaker 14: played a little bit of a different defense. But but

1220
01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:37,480
Speaker 14: we had Chris Claiborne, who won the bushet and his

1221
01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:39,560
Speaker 14: career in the NFL didn't. I mean, his father was

1222
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:41,840
Speaker 14: murdered his rookie year while he was on the phone

1223
01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:45,720
Speaker 14: with him, and Chris has ended up being a great

1224
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:47,640
Speaker 14: coach and person in the area.

1225
01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:49,880
Speaker 6: But I don't think.

1226
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:53,280
Speaker 14: I don't think I've ever seen a college football season.

1227
01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:55,960
Speaker 14: I was close to it, so whenever you're close to something,

1228
01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:59,360
Speaker 14: you're biased. But I mean, I think he had he

1229
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:02,919
Speaker 14: had six picks at a mic backer and took two

1230
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:05,640
Speaker 14: back to the house like he was a two thousand,

1231
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:09,960
Speaker 14: two hundred yard running back in high school. And he

1232
01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:12,680
Speaker 14: was two hundred every bit of two hundred and sixty pounds.

1233
01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:13,800
Speaker 7: It was tall, too tall.

1234
01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:16,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, he was big and he like he hit people

1235
01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:17,320
Speaker 6: so hard.

1236
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:20,160
Speaker 14: When they would stamp the hit cat, he would knock

1237
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 14: them on their neck like like O linemen guards. He

1238
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:25,880
Speaker 14: would knock on their head.

1239
01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:28,320
Speaker 8: I would have had it my sophomore year if not

1240
01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:30,680
Speaker 8: for him, Yeah, flat, I got that buckets if it

1241
01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:31,880
Speaker 8: wasn't for him, you know.

1242
01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:35,120
Speaker 14: So, like whenever somebody asked me about a really dominant

1243
01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:38,160
Speaker 14: football player that you played with, that's the first, that's

1244
01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:38,760
Speaker 14: the first.

1245
01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:41,640
Speaker 7: Person that's out of respect. Man shouts out to clay Man.

1246
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:43,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's really something.

1247
01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:47,320
Speaker 7: Riverside area, Riverside, mother lover.

1248
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:51,200
Speaker 14: Not Riverside like turn the drill around, yes, turn it around,

1249
01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:55,800
Speaker 14: Riverside like the actual place they have the rain cross

1250
01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:59,240
Speaker 14: out there for all the white trash.

1251
01:02:59,560 --> 01:03:00,960
Speaker 3: We're we're up against it.

1252
01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:02,600
Speaker 9: I did want to ask you about we were talking

1253
01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:05,240
Speaker 9: about Chanela Morris earlier. He's applying for a seventh year

1254
01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:06,040
Speaker 9: of eligibility.

1255
01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:07,280
Speaker 6: Is that the Cormack?

1256
01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:13,960
Speaker 9: Yes, yeah, play a UK last year originally Oklahoma TCU,

1257
01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:15,360
Speaker 9: North Texas now Virginia.

1258
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:17,000
Speaker 6: I saw him in some place.

1259
01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:21,320
Speaker 9: I think we all saw him at some place like

1260
01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:24,200
Speaker 9: by the way, white boy.

1261
01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:26,160
Speaker 3: He's played forty six game in his career so far.

1262
01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:28,000
Speaker 7: Geez yeah.

1263
01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:30,320
Speaker 3: And by the way, he's playing for a seventh year.

1264
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:33,920
Speaker 9: There's an element of this where they feel like they

1265
01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:36,040
Speaker 9: have an argument because of mental health reasons. Back in

1266
01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:40,040
Speaker 9: twenty twenty two, where that was the Max Duggan year,

1267
01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:41,240
Speaker 9: they god the national championship.

1268
01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:42,600
Speaker 3: He basically got beat out.

1269
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:46,400
Speaker 9: And I guess I just look at this and go,

1270
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:49,440
Speaker 9: how do you look at this day and age of

1271
01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:51,280
Speaker 9: college football in regards to eligibility.

1272
01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:52,760
Speaker 6: I think it's stupid.

1273
01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:55,320
Speaker 14: I mean, and I'm a guy that had to get

1274
01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:58,480
Speaker 14: an extra year a medical red shirt, and I was

1275
01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:01,560
Speaker 14: twenty three my last year, and I felt old and

1276
01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:02,960
Speaker 14: people felt like I was old.

1277
01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:12,000
Speaker 6: It was also crippled. But to me, it's screwing up the.

1278
01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:16,760
Speaker 14: Lives of freshmen football and basketball players, Guys that should

1279
01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:20,760
Speaker 14: be in a program developing and they're not because there's

1280
01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:22,600
Speaker 14: some twenty five year old in the program.

1281
01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:27,040
Speaker 6: The rotting away taking money. I don't like it. I

1282
01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:30,240
Speaker 6: don't like the oh I had a cough in twenty

1283
01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:35,240
Speaker 6: twenty one, give me my year back. I don't like it.

1284
01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:38,600
Speaker 14: It's crazy, but there's money to be made, and teams

1285
01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:41,760
Speaker 14: are I mean, what was the one thing about Indiana?

1286
01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:44,919
Speaker 6: They were old, right, They're pretty old football team.

1287
01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:48,560
Speaker 14: And people that have old football players, old football players

1288
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:52,680
Speaker 14: have a lot better chance on the road, keeping their

1289
01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:55,720
Speaker 14: head and not doing stupid stuff. They have a better

1290
01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:59,920
Speaker 14: chance than young football players. And that's a proven fact.

1291
01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:02,800
Speaker 14: So coaches don't want to get fired. You don't have

1292
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:05,040
Speaker 14: the time to develop your team. You don't have the

1293
01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:07,760
Speaker 14: time to develop young players. And even if you do,

1294
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:10,120
Speaker 14: who's to say you're able to keep them. They're going

1295
01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:14,240
Speaker 14: to jump in the portal. So I know why it's happening,

1296
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:17,680
Speaker 14: just like you guys do. But I hate it. I

1297
01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:21,040
Speaker 14: hate and it's in basketball too. And the worst part

1298
01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:25,120
Speaker 14: is guys like me or I don't know me. I mean,

1299
01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:28,320
Speaker 14: you guys would have there's a certain type of football

1300
01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:31,560
Speaker 14: player who would have a full scholarship and should be

1301
01:05:31,800 --> 01:05:35,040
Speaker 14: in a program the year after their senior year in

1302
01:05:35,120 --> 01:05:37,600
Speaker 14: high school, and instead those guys are having to go

1303
01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:41,200
Speaker 14: to academies or different schools that they that they probably

1304
01:05:41,240 --> 01:05:45,440
Speaker 14: are better than being at or at a JC because

1305
01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:49,240
Speaker 14: nobody wants to leave college anymore like Van Wilder, and

1306
01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:52,600
Speaker 14: that's unfortunate. I think it's unfortunate. It needs to change.

1307
01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:54,440
Speaker 14: I don't know how they're going to change it, because

1308
01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:57,480
Speaker 14: everybody's going to go to court and some Alabama judge

1309
01:05:57,520 --> 01:06:00,200
Speaker 14: like they did with the Bettiako guy. You know, the

1310
01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:02,480
Speaker 14: guy that said yeah, you can play. Right after he

1311
01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:05,919
Speaker 14: said that, he said roll topped. And then the guy

1312
01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:08,360
Speaker 14: that said you can't play after that, he said, war eagle.

1313
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Speaker 14: I mean, you know, I mean, it's just it's all

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Speaker 14: bs and they need we need regulation desperately. I hope

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Speaker 14: we get there. They're doing a little bit of it.

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Speaker 14: They closed one of the portals and that this and

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Speaker 14: that this is another step they need to make.

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Speaker 6: I think it's a good point.

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Speaker 5: He is Petros Papadegas. He is the co host of

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Speaker 5: the Petros and Money Show, which you can hear on

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Speaker 5: the blowtorch Am five seventy l A score at the

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Speaker 5: old p Petros.

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Speaker 4: We appreciate it and we'll do it again next week.

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Speaker 6: All right, keep it screwed, everybody.

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Speaker 5: All right and chopped there he is, all right, cod

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Speaker 5: up next here we are going to tell you about

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Speaker 5: a change that's been made, but did anything really change

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Speaker 5: with one team in the NFL.

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Speaker 4: That's yours right here on FSR