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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: And welcome back. I am Dale LOLLI he.

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Speaker 3: Is the Matt Williamson and this is the hour number

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Speaker 3: two here on Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: These days are long. My Thursdays are a little crazy. Well,

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Speaker 2: Wednesday's actually my crazy.

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Speaker 3: Thursday is my worst day by just everybody talks and

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Speaker 3: coordinators talk, and it's just then we got to talk,

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Speaker 3: and we got to talk, and then I go home

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Speaker 3: and I got to write more because five for Friday

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Speaker 3: goes up on Friday, and oftentimes I don't have it

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Speaker 3: completely written, but you know, because I do like to

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Speaker 3: wait and see how things play out during the week.

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Speaker 2: I think we've explained this to people, and I think

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Speaker 2: your life's exactly the same. But I can tell you

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Speaker 2: at eleven am and week eleven on Tuesday with what

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Speaker 2: I'm going to be doing, I can already tell you, right,

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Speaker 2: and it gets a little old, it gets to be

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Speaker 2: groundhog week, but you know, you got to set it

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Speaker 2: all up. And some days just or one after another

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Speaker 2: after another.

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Speaker 3: I usually hit the wall on a season around November

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Speaker 3: around mid November ish, and then December usually get into

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Speaker 3: that playoff type push and it's like, okay, now there's

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Speaker 3: some new storylines here.

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Speaker 2: But imagine if the team was like the Browns or

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know what I mean, like those seasons.

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Speaker 3: So I've this is my thirty third season covering the Steelers.

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Speaker 3: I've covered three losing seasons.

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Speaker 2: Just crazy. Those aren't fun. They're not fun, but they're

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Speaker 2: also not one in fifteen one in sixteen either, you know,

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Speaker 2: like brutal. Yeah, it's just it's.

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Speaker 3: Getting blown different field, you know, guys are It's just

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Speaker 3: the vibe in the locker room is different.

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Speaker 2: Everything has to be brutal. Yeah, I've been there. I

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Speaker 2: was employed by one.

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Speaker 3: So let's start with the fantasy football focus. Here three

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Speaker 3: Buffalo Bills wide receivers on Thursday. That would be Curtis

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Speaker 3: Samuel with a toe, Matt Collins with a shoulder, Khalil

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Speaker 3: Shakir with an ankle.

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Speaker 2: They play Monday. Yeah, Shakiir is so important to them,

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Speaker 2: too important. I mean, he's their man coverage beater like

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Speaker 2: my son. And I've heard a lot of people saying this,

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Speaker 2: should I bench Josh Allen? You know, like the numbers

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Speaker 2: have been rough the last couple of weeks, and I

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Speaker 2: think it's the receivers. I mean, I think it's this.

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Speaker 2: Nobody's able to beat man coverage right now. Stingley's just

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Speaker 2: locking guys down against him, and that's what everybody's going to.

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Speaker 3: Many easier this week against the Jets exactly exactly, And

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Speaker 3: if Shakier's not out there, they don't have a man beater.

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Speaker 2: Coleman's not ready to be that guy. Samuel's a little gimmicky,

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Speaker 2: and Kid's been flat out disappointing. I thought he you

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Speaker 2: do more fantasy slash real world. And I if I

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Speaker 2: were them, I would be very interested in adding Devonte

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Speaker 2: Adams or that's even DeAndre Hopkins the hot rumor. Now.

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Speaker 2: I was like, oh, Buffaloes could be the sneaky team Dad.

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Speaker 2: I think they would make them, They would boost them

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Speaker 3: The same conversation we're having with when we talk about

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Speaker 3: him with the Steelers, like makes you a much better team.

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Speaker 2: He's a great player. I mean, there's just no way

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Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers with an ankle limited on Thursday, and they're

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Speaker 3: changing play callers, and.

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Speaker 2: They're coming from overseas, and it is an extra day

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Speaker 2: on Monday. But there's a lot of change going on

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Speaker 2: in the building, that's for sure. Surprise, surprise. Nathaniel Hackett

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Speaker 2: no longer calling plays for them, though, Yeah, which makes

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Speaker 2: me think that Rogers maybe doesn't have as much power

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Speaker 2: as everybody thinks too. You know, that's his guy.

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Speaker 3: But he's he might be too, like, no, this is

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Speaker 3: not what is supposed to be happening here.

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Speaker 2: No, right, I mean, say, trying about Rodgers. He's obviously

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Speaker 2: an odd bird, but he's highly highly competitive too, and

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Speaker 2: he wants to win, yeah, and he knows how to.

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Speaker 2: And I just want to remind people when when people

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Speaker 2: trash Russell Wilson's twenty twenty two season, that was a

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Speaker 3: Tyler Conklin with a hip injury, also limited for them

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Speaker 3: For the Bengals, Zach Moss with the foot injury was

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Speaker 3: not what you want to hear, though. Chase Brown with

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, that's bad news. I mean I would imagine

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Speaker 3: I have to keep an eye on that one for sure.

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Speaker 3: Mike Kaseiki with the hamstring also limited on Thursday for

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Speaker 3: the Bengals. Any interest in him, not really, I mean either, No,

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Speaker 3: Trayvon Diggs was who we were trying to think of before.

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Speaker 3: But yes, yes, yes, uh, he didn't practice on Thursday

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Speaker 2: Nor did like a Parsons Okay, I thought Parsons was

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Speaker 3: Yeah, nor did Kirby Joseph. Okay, so they're a little

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Speaker 2: Now who are they playing again? That's a good question.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't see anything. Oh, they played

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Speaker 2: that's not good. No, I think starting Lions is not

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Speaker 2: Yeah, see the hamstring limited on Thursday. Yeah. Algier though,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt or I just want to keep an

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Speaker 2: Up, I still would like to start Algier. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: he's good too. He's a good back. Darnell Mooney, with

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Speaker 2: I thought I didn't know if you got hurt yesterday

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the movie doesn't play. Somebody's got to pick up

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Speaker 2: Is not going to be a volume hog. No, you know,

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Speaker 2: London set up real well. Austin Ekelar, with a heel injury,

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Speaker 2: practiced him full on Thursday. Yeah, I'd put him right

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Speaker 2: back in your lineup. Yeah that sounds good. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: Uh Malik Neighbors with the concussion did not practice on Thursday.

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Speaker 2: That doesn't sound good at all. This is a long stretch. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: But Jimmy Slayton a nice game last week and good player. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Michael Pittman, with a back injury, did not practice again

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Speaker 2: I think he might miss a couple of games. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and Richard should Richardson practiced in full. They're considering putting

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Speaker 2: him on injured reserve. That's what I heard, right, So remember.

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Speaker 3: Against the Steelers last year, suffered a broken bone in

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Speaker 3: his back on the hit from KZ and he played

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Speaker 2: If he's out and Richardson's in, are you interested in downs? No, obviously.

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Speaker 2: If Flacco's in, fire him up to the nth degree.

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Speaker 2: And how much of Richardson hurts Pierce? No, not at all, Right,

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Speaker 2: he's the chuck. Yeah, yeah, Yeah. It's curious what to

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Speaker 2: do with those pass catchers with Pittman out, because it

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Speaker 2: it's not I mean, unless Lacko's in. Unless Flacos Lacko

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Speaker 3: plays this week. But Trey Sermon with that collarbone injury

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Speaker 2: you how's a collarbone? It's either broke or it's not right.

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Speaker 2: something perhaps. Yeah, I hate talking injuries and I don't

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Speaker 2: your body to break. Yeah, and you never have anyone

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Speaker 2: like limited with a collarbone. Yeah, that's not one you

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Speaker 2: like to see, right, either a broken collar bone or

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Speaker 2: you don't unless he had unless it was like an

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Speaker 2: something in that area. Yeah, I don't know. He's a bruise.

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Speaker 3: That's definitely one to keep an eye on because he

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Speaker 3: actually caught a bunch of passes last week.

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Speaker 2: Now was with Flacco again, but Udson's the third guy.

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Speaker 2: There's a chance he gets involved. But I hope you

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Speaker 2: won't get to that point. But I don't trust Richardson

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Speaker 2: the complete passes to the running backs. No, but if

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Speaker 2: Taylor's then you fire them up. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: If Taylor plays, you play him. But I don't know

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Speaker 3: that you play Sermon this.

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Speaker 2: That's my next question was if Sermon's in and Taylor's out,

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Speaker 2: especially against Tennessee. Yeah, it's gonna be tough sledding in

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Speaker 2: the middle too. Yeah, and now Richardson take each into

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Speaker 2: your running work too, and then there's that Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: well there's a lot of moving parts in India right now. Absolutely.

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Speaker 3: Alvin Kamara with hip in hand issues back at practice

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Speaker 3: on Thursday after sitting out yesterday. They figure to lean

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Speaker 3: But I don't know, I can. I mean, you're not

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Speaker 2: I was sitting here thinking, does he get a lot

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Speaker 2: more passes because they're easy throws for the for Rattler.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw that. So Tucker Craft, he's real. Fire

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Speaker 2: If he's still out there, you're crazy not to pick

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Speaker 3: David and Joku practice today and plans to play on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: I guess that's good. The quarterback is I don't tripling though, right,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going to start Zerom forward this week just

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Speaker 2: He's not they're not picking up Blitz as well. It's bad.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Eckler gets such a boost though, because

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Speaker 2: as we talked about, Baltimore says, you know what, We're

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Speaker 3: So we're not going to allow Jade Daniels to get

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Speaker 3: We'll give up four yards doing that as opposed to

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Possibly, possibly, But I think if Robinson. Robinson does play,

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't have been excited to start. No, I wouldn't

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Speaker 2: don't think so either. Yeah. Yeah, not a great batchup.

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Speaker 3: Uh Rashad Bateman back at practice. He's going to he's

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Speaker 2: He's I'm not even sure he should be in leagues.

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Speaker 2: But I mean they play the Kohlers and all these

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Speaker 3: How about this one, Matt Joe Mixon back at practice

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's great. They really need him and out. Since

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Speaker 3: I mean the way he was playing before the injury

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Speaker 2: He's just not good enough. Yeah, he's just toast gets

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Speaker 2: light boxes. I'm just looking here. Oh. Jaylen McMillan was

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Speaker 3: Trey Palmer for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers did not practice

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Speaker 2: He was limited on Wednesdays.

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Speaker 3: I think that I think I saw something where the

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Speaker 2: Too, did they really? Yeah? I mean I guess just

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Speaker 3: So, and in that respect, you're not worried about what

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Speaker 2: It can't help, But I mean.

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Speaker 3: It's Spencer Rattler could Yeah, I'm still taking the box. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: but if White doesn't play or is limited.

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Speaker 2: Oh, fire up of the rook Yeah for sure.

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Speaker 3: Sure, Bucky Irving could become a hot commodity.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and he was taking that over anyway, so he

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Speaker 2: may just grab the job for good too. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 2: if you could, I might put a trade offer in

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Speaker 2: for him. If you could, right now, you probably get

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Speaker 2: maybe not, because I would expect it. You know, Dane

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Speaker 2: will probably always be the third down back, Yeah, he'll be.

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Speaker 2: But how how much third down if they're winning this game? Right?

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Speaker 2: Maybe fifteen STAPs? Right, So that's just something to keep

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Speaker 3: Mentioned for the Raiders and those a mere White and

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Speaker 3: no Jacobi Myers, that would.

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Speaker 2: Be brutal for them. They're short on playmakers. Rashid Shaheed

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Speaker 2: with a hip injury mispracticed, I don't think we could

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Speaker 3: Lav Lave's off the injury report with that hamstring that

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Speaker 2: But again, I don't I don't think you could do

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if you can play those guys.

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Speaker 3: And Taysom Hill is still sideline with that rib.

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Speaker 2: Issue, so it would have been nice, gimmicky kind of

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Speaker 2: got it sinks they're a mess right now. Yeah, they

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Speaker 2: could be losing their playoff hopes, might be circling the rain.

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Speaker 2: And this, folks, is why.

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Speaker 3: This silly talk about trading Russell Wilson, releasing him or

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Speaker 2: And you don't want to get left short at quarterback.

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Speaker 2: You can't. I mean, even like last year, having Rudolph

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Speaker 2: the time. You know, which backup quarterbacks are more important

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Speaker 2: than ever.

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Speaker 3: These teams that short themselves at quarterback like that, I

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Speaker 3: just don't get it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I understand like drafting Rattler, but I

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Speaker 2: don't understand not having somebody that's been around the block,

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Speaker 2: made a living doing that those guys are going to

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Speaker 2: be more valuable than the usual.

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Speaker 3: I mean, just look at what happened, you know with

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Speaker 2: It looked like, you know, yeah, he came in and

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Speaker 3: In fact, Wilson said today when he when Russell Wilson

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Speaker 3: that play, and we went down and scored. You know,

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Speaker 3: we score. After that, it was like, hey, look there's

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Speaker 2: The fact that they're not afraid of him coming in

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Speaker 2: and throwing the football. Yeah, the whole world doesn't know

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Speaker 2: that he's just going to hand it off, handed off,

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Speaker 2: handed off punt, you know.

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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, that could have been the situation or if

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Speaker 3: you don't trust your backup quarterback. And a lot of

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Speaker 3: a lot of places we saw it with the Saints

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Speaker 3: whatever like that was Monday, Jeeves, they bring in Honer

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Speaker 2: Now you got they're bringing Herner into the game. He

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Speaker 2: couldn't complete a pass pass and they needed him to

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Speaker 3: And he was number two of a rattler just because

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Speaker 2: But if you give him a whole week to prepare,

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Speaker 2: they weren't rattler. Yeah, I guess he's a better pass

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Speaker 2: or he's got more ability, you know. And that's supposed

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Speaker 2: the plan, right, Just give me the yeah, give me

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Speaker 2: the Landry Jones, you know that case you.

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Speaker 3: Make a step in and complete some passes and run

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Speaker 3: the offense, right right, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I don't. I think a lot of teams neglect that

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Speaker 3: And it's it's you know, it's if it's five million

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Speaker 3: dollars for a component backup quarterback, it's five million dollars

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Speaker 3: well spent if he wins you a game.

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Speaker 2: If he can win, if you can run the majority

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Speaker 2: of the offense and make everyone else. I know it's

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Speaker 2: a fantasy segment, but if everyone else doesn't.

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Speaker 3: Doesn't kill your fans, Like, you can't start these guys

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Speaker 3: this week because the backup quarterbacks in the game exactly.

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Speaker 3: It completely takes a team off the off the off

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Speaker 2: Like if your guys weeks Fantasy relevant, then your backup's

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Speaker 2: good enough. You know what I mean? You know, if

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Speaker 2: the Lavee this week or Sha this week, You're like.

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Speaker 3: A, right, I'm stuck, and I'm sure you were. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: there's probably people out there that.

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Speaker 2: Were They've had good years and have been we're drafted high,

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Speaker 2: two weeks ago, it didn't look like that was the case.

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Speaker 2: You know, you're probably planning out your Bible.

433
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Speaker 3: Okay, my bie week's fine, I got Shiah heat, I'll

434
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Speaker 3: put them in the lineup and I'll be fine.

435
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Speaker 2: Now this is probably too dorky, but I wonder when

436
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Speaker 2: we draft, should we pay attention to backup quarterbacks a

437
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Speaker 2: little bit more? Make it even a tie breaker, Like

438
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Speaker 2: if I'm torn between a London and a Lave, Well,

439
00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:32,840
Speaker 2: what happens if Cousins gets hurt? Pen X might be

440
00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:36,720
Speaker 2: all right, but what happens if car gets hurt? Oh no,

441
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Speaker 2: my guy's worthless. That me something that trust me as

442
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Speaker 2: a jaylen Waddle owner in a lot of places. It's like,

443
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Speaker 2: I can't play.

444
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Speaker 3: This guy Dolphins right now. Yeah, it's just it's another

445
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Speaker 3: best example, it's a mess because they don't have a

446
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Speaker 3: good backup quarterback.

447
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Speaker 2: And then they're manufacturing goofy touches, I throwing everything behind

448
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Speaker 2: the line of scrimmage just to get completions. Like it's

449
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Speaker 2: that bad. It really is. And I think you're right.

450
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Speaker 3: I think when you're drafting you should take into account because,

451
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Speaker 3: as I mentioned, I counted enough time last year. I

452
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Speaker 3: think it was only like seven or eight quarterbacks played

453
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Speaker 3: all seventeen games last year.

454
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean we know in the high sixties of

455
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Speaker 2: quarterbacks start every year.

456
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Speaker 3: Now, and just think about it, Well, if this guy's

457
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Speaker 3: out album are terrible, what's the backup auction look like?

458
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Speaker 2: Right? Right?

459
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Speaker 3: And maybe to you know, when we talked about the

460
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Speaker 3: Colts two weeks ago, we didn't give the Colts enough

461
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Speaker 3: credit for signing Flacco.

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Speaker 2: Right, it goes a long way. I mean the Saint

463
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Speaker 2: Teff Lacco. Right now, I'd be like, yeah, I'll be

464
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Speaker 2: all right, Yeah they might be better, you know, probably not,

465
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Speaker 2: but yeah the Colts might be yeah, right, they have

466
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Speaker 2: definitely a passing game is absolutely, let's get to a

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Speaker 2: break that's going to do it for the fantasy football focus.

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Speaker 3: He is the Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly. You're

469
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Speaker 3: listening to the Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network.

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Speaker 3: Let's continue that backup quarterback talk here in a minute.

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Speaker 2: We'll do that right after this. At least.

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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 1: your twenty four seven home of the Black and Gold

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Speaker 1: Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back. I am Dale Lowie.

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Speaker 3: He is the Matt Williamson and Matt I wanted to

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Speaker 3: talk about this article a couple of weeks ago when

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Speaker 3: it came out and it wasn't really relevant at the time,

479
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Speaker 3: but Seth Walter with ESPN ranked the NFL's backup quarterbacks

480
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Speaker 3: one to thirty two. Okay, some of these situations have

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Speaker 3: already changed, right, Like Drake may was was probably on

482
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Speaker 3: the list, and you know, right so it was talking to.

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Speaker 2: Saint, I thought we'd just talked about this.

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Speaker 3: That's, you know, a topic that we just got done

485
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Speaker 3: talking about with fantasy football. Just to give you an

486
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Speaker 3: idea of who some of the number two quarterbacks are

487
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Speaker 3: across the league.

488
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Speaker 2: I say this every year because there was It was

489
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Speaker 2: my least favorite thing in my ESPN career. I was.

490
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Speaker 2: I worked for ESPN dot com for ten years and

491
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Speaker 2: every year during the down time of the year after

492
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Speaker 2: the draft, Matt ranked the thirty two backup quarterbacks. Boy

493
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Speaker 2: is it alarming because it's like these are all so terrible.

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Speaker 3: You know, we're already into the Steelers are going to

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Speaker 3: see a backup quarterback this week against the Raiders. They've

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Speaker 3: made a change. Yep, We've seen the Patriots make a change.

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Speaker 3: This is the time of season when you start to

498
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Speaker 3: see teams make change.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and some of them when you do those rankings

500
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Speaker 2: where okay, they're just not going to play the first

501
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Speaker 2: round pick. Okay, you know, yeah May and you know

502
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,399
Speaker 2: his day is coming, he's gonna be pretty high in

503
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Speaker 2: the list. But then there's like the same situation or

504
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:35,120
Speaker 2: I mean Miami where it's like they just don't have anybody. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: As I mentioned Seth Walter, I compiled this at thirty two.

506
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Speaker 3: He has Clayton tune with the car parts.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and they traded for Ritter and then they cut

508
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Speaker 2: him and he's on I mean like they Yeah, it's bad,

509
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Speaker 2: it's bad. It's bad.

510
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he is absolutely nothing like the starter.

511
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Speaker 2: No, right, I mean there's season will be totally wrecked. Yeah,

512
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Speaker 2: thirty one is Skyler Thompson. We're seeing that in action, right,

513
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 2: It's brutal.

514
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 3: It's not good, and they felt so bad about it

515
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,159
Speaker 3: they went out and grabbed Tyler Huntley off off of

516
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Speaker 3: uh Baltimore's practice squad.

517
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Speaker 2: Yeah, miserable at thirty Jeff Driscoll with the Commanders. Wow,

518
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:23,159
Speaker 2: he's the number two again, nothing like the star, right,

519
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:27,760
Speaker 2: absolutely and not a veteran. I want a big brother, Yeah,

520
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 2: you know, I mean I want to and you're a veteran.

521
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Speaker 3: What's Yeah, what's j Daniels? What's Jade and Daniels bouncing

522
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,959
Speaker 3: off of Jeff Driscoll? Yeah, where did you get those shoes?

523
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, I know he's been in league for a

524
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Speaker 2: little while, but he's never really been on the field

525
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Speaker 2: enough to be like I remember when we did this,

526
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Speaker 2: you know, right, Yeah, the the left Witch, the grad Kowski,

527
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Speaker 2: I mean, the Batch, that guy you know that goes

528
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Speaker 2: a long way. It goes a long way for a

529
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Speaker 2: first round rookie at twenty nine is the great Jake Hayner.

530
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and he really isn't the backup apparently right right,

531
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Speaker 3: he's the he was the game days number two, but

532
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Speaker 3: not now.

533
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Speaker 2: Not the prep all week guy. Twenty eight I might

534
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Speaker 2: just roll through. Some of these guys mentioned their name

535
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Speaker 2: and you tell me were who they played for. When

536
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,639
Speaker 2: you said Tune, I'm like, I think it's still Arizona, right,

537
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 2: I won't do that. Yeah, Kyle Trask and Tampa Bay. Yeah,

538
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 2: there was hope for him at one point, but I

539
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 2: don't see it. I never really did, to be honest

540
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Speaker 2: with you.

541
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Speaker 3: Twenty seven is Brandon Allen with the forty nine Ers.

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Speaker 2: I wasn't certain that was who he played for. To

543
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Speaker 2: that was one I'm not sure I would have got.

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Speaker 2: Twenty Twenty six is a tough one. They go from

545
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Speaker 2: Darnold to Allen. Yeah, Bryce Young with the Panthers. See

546
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Speaker 2: a guy like that, I'd have way higher.

547
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Speaker 3: I would too, because I still think there's some promise there, right,

548
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Speaker 3: some of these other guys that we're going to get

549
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Speaker 3: to here.

550
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Speaker 2: Like, come on, I mean, honestly, he's not been good.

551
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Speaker 2: I got much of the Steelers quarterback situation than the Raiders.

552
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Speaker 2: But the similarity for this argument is I can make

553
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Speaker 2: a case for a yeah, and in Carolina. I think

554
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 2: you could still make a case for either. I mean

555
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Speaker 2: he was horrendous, don't get me wrong, horrendous, like the

556
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 2: worst start in the league. But you could make a

557
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,119
Speaker 2: case that he should go out there again. I'm betting

558
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Speaker 2: he plays again before the end of this year. Yeah, yeah,

559
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Speaker 2: I mean they're going to be two and ten at

560
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Speaker 2: some point. Yeah, you know, put.

561
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Speaker 3: Him back in there and see if he learned anything.

562
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Speaker 3: Twenty five Jared Stidham.

563
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Speaker 2: With the Broncos. Okay, but people seem to like him,

564
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Speaker 2: but we never do we likes him enough to put

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Speaker 2: him on the field.

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Speaker 1: No.

567
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Speaker 2: Twenty four is your favorite? Tyson badgeint He's okay. I

568
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 2: mean that's another one. I'd probably have a veteran big brother, ye, Charlie.

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Speaker 3: Tyson Badgin right now has fewer career starts than the

570
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Speaker 3: start Caleb Williams.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, like he belongs in the league. I think

572
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,440
Speaker 2: he proved that last year. But that's not the way

573
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Speaker 2: I have it set up for my first overall pick. Right.

574
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Speaker 3: Twenty three Josh Johnson with the Ravens Man. Something happens

575
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 3: to Lamar, They're in trouble.

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Speaker 2: Oh, huge, huge, huge, huge. I mean I might have

577
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 2: him ahead of like Trubisky. Yeah, I mean, at least

578
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,919
Speaker 2: he's been around, and there's something said for playing as

579
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Speaker 2: long as he has for nine thousand organations, a bunch

580
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 2: of differently.

581
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Speaker 3: Some in the NFL. Twenty two Davis Mills with Texans.

582
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 2: I had hope for him at one point to be

583
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 2: a low end starter. Maybe his day will come. I'm

584
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:31,880
Speaker 2: not saying it's not like a Genosmith reclamation or anything.

585
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 2: I think that that ship has sailed. I think he

586
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 2: could be a better two than that. Yeah. Twenty one

587
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 2: is Mac Jones with the Jaguars. That's an interesting year.

588
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,439
Speaker 2: The Pickets, the Jones, the Howls, the guys that were

589
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,399
Speaker 2: starters last year that all got traded. I don't know

590
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:47,440
Speaker 2: how you rank them.

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00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, they got more experience than a lot of the

592
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Speaker 3: guys below him here, right, and they had to be

593
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 3: the man and they had to go well right, they

594
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:55,119
Speaker 3: had some pedigree.

595
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,640
Speaker 2: But a lot of those guys moved this year. Yeah,

596
00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,440
Speaker 2: you know guys that were on the billboards last year.

597
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Speaker 3: Rung who's the number one overall pick? Yeah, last year

598
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:05,920
Speaker 3: isn't ahead of those guys.

599
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:09,360
Speaker 2: I say, if Mac Jones got thrown into Bryce Young situation.

600
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 2: Would it had gone worse or better? Or who knows

601
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 2: Kenny was there or how or you know, twenty Cooper

602
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 2: Rush with the Cowboys. He's proven to be fine? Yeah, yeah,

603
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 2: I mean he's holding off Lance for the two job

604
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 2: two and who hasn't proven to be fine? Nineteen can

605
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 2: he pick it with the Eagles? Preseason? Wasn't pretty? Wasn't pretty.

606
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 2: It's not like he was holding on for dear life

607
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 2: to keep the two. But I also think there's value

608
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 2: for played some football and you know it was asked

609
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 2: to be the guy for a while didn't go well.

610
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 2: Eighteen is Taylor Heineke with the Chargers. That's the case.

611
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 2: Keenum for life type. They're all their own. They'll play forever,

612
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 2: you know.

613
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Speaker 3: Seventeen is Nick Mullins with the Vikings. That might be kind,

614
00:28:58,400 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 3: that's very kind.

615
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 2: I think I'll take my chances even with Bryce Young

616
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 2: in a game or Kenny or one of the former

617
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 2: first round picks.

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Speaker 3: Say what you want about pick it. He at least

619
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Speaker 3: won games in the league, right right, right, He.

620
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 2: Had a formula and they'd won football games, and he

621
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 2: made plays latent games too.

622
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 3: You know, I would have I would have him over

623
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 3: this guy too. Sixteen is Hendon Hooker.

624
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 2: With who knows. You don't know.

625
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 3: I mean he played in the preseason, that's always played,

626
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 3: that's always played, and show some stuff and it was fine.

627
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 3: But yeah, and he would have got drafted a little

628
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 3: higher had he been healthy.

629
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 2: I don't know how you rank him. I mean, I'll

630
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 2: take my chance to winning game with Mac Jones over

631
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,719
Speaker 2: Hendon Hooker. At least he's played, at least done it.

632
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 3: Fifteen he has Malik Willis with the Packers, who so

633
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 3: a month ago he'd have been thirty seconds.

634
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, he does.

635
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 3: And he plays two games and one of them was

636
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 3: a completely They threw like.

637
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 2: Twelve passes to get like twelve attacks. They really managed

638
00:29:58,200 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 2: the game. Yeah, and they got a lot out of

639
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 2: of them. Well, I'd still rather pick it. Yeah, I'd

640
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 2: still rather give me the Mac jones is. Yeah, right,

641
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 2: they're right.

642
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 3: They've started more, way more games than Malik Willis and.

643
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 2: There at least was once good buzz around them. Right.

644
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 2: Fourteen Mason Rudolph. I bet when it's all said and done,

645
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 2: we'd have him higher. I would have him higher than that.

646
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's the best one yet I would have him

647
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 3: higher than the next guy on this list is which

648
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Speaker 3: is who the Steelers are going to see this week,

649
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 3: Aidan O'Connell.

650
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 2: I would too. I think the Raiders wuld be better off

651
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 2: with Rudolph taking stamps right now, I do too. Would

652
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 2: you rather play against Rudolph or Picket or Bryce Young?

653
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 2: I'd rather play against.

654
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 3: I'd rather play against Bryce Young because he's going to

655
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 3: make mistakes, yes, and then pick it and then Rudolph.

656
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 2: Exactly would be my order too. Rudolf would be last

657
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 2: on my list of one game. Who do I don't

658
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 2: want to play against? Rudolph is the best one yet

659
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 2: of these guys. He's the guy. He's the veteran guy.

660
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 3: He's again hasn't played a ton but enough, but he's

661
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 3: played enough to know what he's seeing.

662
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 2: He's a smart guy. He'll get He'll get the ball

663
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 2: where it needs to go, right. I mean, I'd rather

664
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 2: play against him than leven Or. I'd rather play Levis

665
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 2: than him.

666
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 3: Oh absolutely, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'd certainly rather play the

667
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 3: guy in Cleveland.

668
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 2: And then absolutely or if like he was a saint

669
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 2: right now, he'd be like all right, he'll be okay.

670
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 2: Twelve Joe Flacco proving to be better, he should be

671
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 2: higher on in that right, he should probably one of

672
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 2: the top thirty two on the planet.

673
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 3: Definitely be higher than the next guy on this list.

674
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 3: He has Mitch Trubisky at eleven. I'd be way lower.

675
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:38,719
Speaker 2: He should be way lower, way lower, at least ten

676
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 2: spots lower. I'll admit I was completely wrong on Mitch Trubisky.

677
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 2: I had hope when they signed him. Yeah, you know,

678
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 2: he would be way lower at ten. Drew Locke with

679
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 2: the Giants, I'd probably be lower, but teams seem to

680
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,959
Speaker 2: like him. Yeah, I mean, Seattle went out of their

681
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:01,719
Speaker 2: way to make sure hearts Bisk You're like the same, dude. Yeah,

682
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,719
Speaker 2: I would roll my dice with lock over him. At

683
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 2: least there's a little more unknown. Trubisky's just proven to

684
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 2: be bad at nine. Sam Howe with the Seahawks, I'm

685
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 2: fine with that. I mean, I think you win games

686
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 2: with that dude if he doesn't get killed. Oh yeah,

687
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 2: he's a throw picks and take so many sacks. Yeah,

688
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:27,479
Speaker 2: he's a ten sack rate in his career, one not ten.

689
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 2: Drop back he goes down. That's not even the hits

690
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 2: he takes and all that stuff too, right. Eight Jimmy Garoppolo,

691
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 2: I have no idea different podcasts I do. We've talked

692
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 2: extensively about why wouldn't Miami go get Jimmy now? I

693
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 2: mean knows the Niner system cost you nothing? Yeah, the

694
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 2: Rams get rid of him for a loaf of bread, Yeah,

695
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 2: just to get give me my picks, Yeah, give me picks. Yeah.

696
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 3: They couldn't have those picks enough before, and now they

697
00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 3: want the picks.

698
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 2: I don't know what to think of him. We haven't

699
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 2: seen him in a while.

700
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 3: Seven is Carson Wentz with the Chiefs. I haven't seen

701
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 3: him in a while either. He might be petrubisky too right.

702
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 2: He might be better. He might be trubisky.

703
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 3: Remember he was in Indianapolis as the starter and they

704
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 3: said we can't do.

705
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 2: This, so he was unemployed for a long time last

706
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 2: year too. I don't know that if he's any good,

707
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 2: I don't either.

708
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 3: And certainly with the supporting cast that he now has

709
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 3: in Kansas City.

710
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 2: That's what about Well, yeah, I guess it's not as

711
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 2: good as good think. But what the example I was

712
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 2: going to use is I really wanted to see Sam

713
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 2: Darnald last year for like six I don't want anybody

714
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 2: get hurt. I would have loved to see Donald with

715
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 2: the Niners. Maybe it would look like this Vikings version

716
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 2: of Donald. Maybe it be a total disaster, but I'd

717
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 2: love to see Wentz with Andy Reid and a good

718
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 2: cast for two months. Yeah, could he get it back

719
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 2: or is he shot? Yeah? Six is Tyrod Taylor with

720
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 2: the Jets. He's probably six for the last six years. Yeah.

721
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 3: You can win games with that guy, but he's not

722
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 3: a starter. Five he has Michael Pennix with the Falcons.

723
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 3: Who knows, but he deserves respect. Yeah, okay, played one

724
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 3: game in the preseason. We one NFL game, one NFL game.

725
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 3: At four, he has Russell Wilson. I think Wilson would

726
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 3: be my one, but it should be Fields is the

727
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 3: number two.

728
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 2: And he would be my one too. Yeah, Like whoever

729
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 2: that is, I think is the best backup in the league.

730
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 2: Unless these three names are escaping me.

731
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 3: But this is the national media perception of the Steelers

732
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,760
Speaker 3: quarterback situation, and I think they're completely wrong.

733
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, because he's never been the two.

734
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 3: Right, he's still number one on the depth chart. Yeah, Yeah,

735
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 3: they haven't changed that.

736
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 2: Would you have Fields over everybody? Listed. Yes, me too, Yes,

737
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 2: and I'm curious he's the next three you are, I

738
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 2: might have Flacco two. Yeah, you can win games. I mean,

739
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,399
Speaker 2: what if Flacco is Saint, it'd be fine, all right.

740
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 2: Three he has Jake Browning with the Bengals. Now, he

741
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 2: did some good stuff last year, but he's not the

742
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 2: third best. But he's not better than Russell Wilson. He's

743
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 2: not better than Fields, better better than Flacco. He's not better,

744
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 2: not better than Rudolph. Yeah, Rudolph's kind of a camp. Yeah.

745
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 2: Then they're not former first round picks. They're not former starters.

746
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 2: They're not potential future Hall of famers, you know, like

747
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 2: not the Flacco is he's find things last year. Yeah,

748
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 2: but they all said I'm tenth. I'd be like, that's cool. Yeah, yeah.

749
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 2: Two Jameis Winston with the Browns. He'd be high on

750
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:39,839
Speaker 2: my list, not ahead of Fields or Wilson, but he'd

751
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 2: be high. It'd be my probably top five. I don't

752
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,319
Speaker 2: know if i'd have him ahead of Flacco. No, I

753
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 2: would not. I would think.

754
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,879
Speaker 3: You know, he went in and gave true serum within

755
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 3: these Browns locker room.

756
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they went Joe, They went Joe I assumed

757
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 2: this list was written before Flacco saw the field for

758
00:35:56,120 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 2: the Colts. This came out September twenty ninth, so up

759
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 2: before the Seeder game. No, I think, no, No, that

760
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 2: was two weeks ago. So no, No, he had just

761
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 2: played one game though with them, and his number one

762
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 2: backup at this point was Drake May. I totally get

763
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 2: that on the way you put him. But he's who

764
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 2: you want.

765
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, the promising young Yeah yeah guy, third overall pick.

766
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. For some reason, Jayden Daniels hadn't gotten the

767
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:26,240
Speaker 2: start yet, or Williams or I mean patn X was high.

768
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 3: When Brissette when if they redid this now, Brissette would

769
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:30,720
Speaker 3: be five or six on this list.

770
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Okay, that's about right. It's one of those

771
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 2: situations where you can see both guys. Yeah, but I

772
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:37,359
Speaker 2: think you.

773
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 3: Definitely want to have your your your backup should be

774
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 3: on the top twelve on this list.

775
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 2: The bottom twelve or the bottom twelve is what you

776
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 2: don't want, You're right. The bottom twelve is you're not

777
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 2: paying them, you don't care, and.

778
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 3: You're they're just there holding a clip road and you know,

779
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 3: running the second team or scout team in some cases.

780
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 2: Some teams don't even carry three quarterbacks, right, which is crazy.

781
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 2: Like I said, I'm a Green Bay Like they got

782
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 2: a lot out of willis good for them. I think

783
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 2: he's a really good coach. But before that trade, though,

784
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 2: it was like Clifton, like they were just totally ignoring

785
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 2: there for yeah Clifford or whatever. Yeah, Clifford a big red, right.

786
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 2: I mean there's a couple of teams that just neglected

787
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:17,840
Speaker 2: to no end. Yeah, it's crazy.

788
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it just shows like there are some guys

789
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 3: starting in the league right now, Deshaun Watson who shouldn't

790
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 3: be playing at all.

791
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,799
Speaker 2: That are chosen starters, not because they're thrust in there,

792
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 2: because they have to be. Yeah, I mean there's ten

793
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 2: guys on that list. I would rather take my chance

794
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 2: to win a game with the Watson, yeah, no doubt,

795
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:43,240
Speaker 2: including Winston, including Flacco, who were both Browns now or recently. Yeah,

796
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:45,919
Speaker 2: it's just I mean, they're they're married to the guy. Though,

797
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,400
Speaker 2: someone on that list is going to revitalize his career,

798
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 2: like Darnold would have been on that list last year

799
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 2: and been high. Yeah, you know, is it Winston or Wentz?

800
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,879
Speaker 2: That ship probably sailed. We've probably seen enough of them.

801
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:00,399
Speaker 2: But we're going to see these guys this season again.

802
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, there were sixty sixty seven quarterbacks played last year,

803
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 3: like started again. That's just starting games, sixty seven start.

804
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 3: That doesn't count the guys who came in in relief. Right,

805
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 3: there's guys on this on this list who are going

806
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 3: to play this year. There's Peter Ratler's not on this list.

807
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:16,800
Speaker 3: He's gonna play this week.

808
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 2: Oh yeah. There's guys below this list that are threes.

809
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 2: You mean, guys that aren't listed because they're not a

810
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 2: number two even, Yeah, that we're going to see and

811
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,840
Speaker 2: be bad. One of them might be okay, you know

812
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 2: who knows. But guys that could revitalize their career though,

813
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:37,879
Speaker 2: could Picket or how or y'all those guys could Yeah,

814
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 2: I mean they may be a starter four years from

815
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:41,360
Speaker 2: now somewhere.

816
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 3: You know, when when the Steelers traded Picket and people say, oh,

817
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 3: that just show he's he'll never play again. I'm like

818
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 3: any attention over right, So what happens in this league?

819
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,800
Speaker 2: Right? I mean Gino Smith took a long time before

820
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,360
Speaker 2: he popped up, and now he's like we did starters.

821
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 2: It'd be tenth or eighth or something.

822
00:38:58,280 --> 00:38:59,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's just the way it goes at the

823
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 3: cour back position, darnold. You know before the season would

824
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 3: have been example no wherever nowhere on this list, little

825
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 3: Fields is doing. Yeah, come a long way it happens. Anyways,

826
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 3: let's get to another break. He is the Matt Williams

827
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Speaker 3: and I am Dale Lolly. This is the Drive on

828
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 3: the Steelers Audio Network. Matt and I'll be back to finish.

829
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Speaker 2: Up the show right after this.

830
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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

831
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,319
Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and

832
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

833
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Speaker 2: Welcome back. I'm Dale Lolli. He is the Matt Williamson

834
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 2: and Matt.

835
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Speaker 3: Surprisingly enough, I got the Raiders injury report for today.

836
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 2: All right, let's tick in there the show. Yeah yeah uh.

837
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 3: Once again, Devonte Adams did not participate. Max Crosby did

838
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 3: not participate.

839
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:51,360
Speaker 2: Didn't participate.

840
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's gonna play them, He's gonna play, but they're

841
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 3: managing it.

842
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. Uh.

843
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 3: Tommy Eikenberg, who was limited yesterday, didn't practice today.

844
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 2: I wonder only snaps Crosby plays though, because one of

845
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 2: the things I'm so impressed with him. Is he plays

846
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,799
Speaker 2: like ninety Yeah, I doubt he'll do that.

847
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 3: Michael Mayer still missing in Action's.

848
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 2: I hope it's not something major postal in his life.

849
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 2: It probably is, or he wouldn't be missing, it wouldn't

850
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 2: be not there. Yeah, I would not count on him playing.

851
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:22,840
Speaker 3: Jacoby Myers for the second consecutive day, did not participate

852
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 3: in practice.

853
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 2: Oh man, that's a bad way. He's top five important raiders. Yeah.

854
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:32,760
Speaker 3: Colton Miller, after not practicing yesterday, was limited today.

855
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:38,879
Speaker 2: Better, he's top five important raiders too, Yeah.

856
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:42,319
Speaker 3: Jackson Powers Johnson did not participate. They or Mumford was

857
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 3: limited again, as was Dylan Parhum.

858
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 2: Okay, it's a lot of the line stuff. Uh.

859
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 3: DJ Turner limited once again with the hamstring. When of

860
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 3: their wide receivers uh Tyreek McAllister, the other receiver who

861
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 3: had been out, was a full participant today, so at

862
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 3: least got him back because they were down four receivers

863
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 3: except I've never heard of them, yeah, nor have I.

864
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 3: And then Zamir White once again did not participate.

865
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 2: I'm not sure how much that even matters, but they

866
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 2: don't run the ball well with or without him. But

867
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 2: he's I guess they're best back, probably more Abdullah get

868
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 2: Madison Abdullah, I guess would be your yeah, steady dose

869
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 2: of those guys. Dylan Lobbey's on that team too. Yeah.

870
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 2: I always kind of thought of him as like this

871
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,959
Speaker 2: fantasy sleeper that could go buy these backs that aren't

872
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 2: very good. Hasn't yet, I don't say he hasn't gotten

873
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,800
Speaker 2: any action. Yeah, I mean you just don't know.

874
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 3: The coaching staff do not trust him, they're right, all

875
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 3: kinds of stuff involved with that.

876
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 2: And Christian Wilkins is out, folks.

877
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, Christiani on ir He's not even on the injury

878
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 3: no chance the safety. Mooring was not on this at all,

879
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 3: though he came back.

880
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 2: He was a full participant again today. Okay, I mean

881
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:48,720
Speaker 2: he's a good player.

882
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 3: But if we were ranking the top ten most important raiders,

883
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 3: like six of them are on this list.

884
00:41:56,680 --> 00:42:00,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, Cosby and Adams are one and two. Wilkins if

885
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 2: he doesn't count, it's three. Yeah, Colton Miller's not far

886
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:10,359
Speaker 2: hours be four. Yeah, Miller might be five. Myers is

887
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:13,359
Speaker 2: probably six. I might even putting the quarterback up there

888
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,319
Speaker 2: because they could just go the other one. Yeah, you know,

889
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not sure who's better of the two.

890
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 2: Would rather play against Minshew or O'Connell. I think I'd

891
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 2: rather play against O'Connell. I'd rather play against O'Connell because

892
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 2: Minch you can get hot. I mean, yeah, he could

893
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 2: lose you your game, but he could get hot and

894
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 2: start completing passes agin, right, you know where I'm not

895
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 2: sure O'Connell can. Yeah. I don't know that he's got

896
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 2: that in him, right. Yeah. So, I mean I'm not

897
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,280
Speaker 2: sure who's even next on my most important Raiders list,

898
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 2: But many of the ones I mentioned are either out.

899
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 2: Adams might be Myers. Oh he was in my top five?

900
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 2: Was he in something? Yeah? He was, like the last

901
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:48,799
Speaker 2: one I mentioned.

902
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 3: But then you know, after that, I might consider some

903
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 3: couple of these offensive linemen that are not looking good.

904
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, oh, it's a bad situation for them. Yeah.

905
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 3: Now, again, that doesn't mean the Steelers can't go out

906
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 3: there and lose because their injury report looks bad as well.

907
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 3: It does, but this is what everybody's dealing with at

908
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:08,240
Speaker 3: this point in the season.

909
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 2: At least, the latest Steeler injury report was more encouraging

910
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:15,399
Speaker 2: than disheartening. Yeah, this one isn't Yeah, if.

911
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 3: We were ranking Steelers one through ten of guys who

912
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 3: aren't going to play in this game. Obviously Alex high

913
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 3: Smith will be high on that list, but we has

914
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:25,839
Speaker 3: been rolled out, he has been well. Mike Tomlin said

915
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 3: he's not going to play this week, so the limited

916
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 3: practice today is probably ramping them up for next week.

917
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 2: So me al Herbig and high Smith aren't going to play.

918
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:39,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, but Jalen Warren that one's possible is ramping

919
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:40,720
Speaker 3: up in the right direction.

920
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 2: It is too right, Prewit's ramping in the right direction. Yeah, okay,

921
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:46,360
Speaker 2: at least that's some good news.

922
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:48,840
Speaker 3: And all the guys who were resting yesterday are back,

923
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 3: you know, the Haywards and the Watts and.

924
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 2: Things of that nature. Ogunjob he's gonna play it again. Yeah.

925
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,799
Speaker 2: So yeah, they're just in a to who we on

926
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 2: the fence on. I guess really just warrnt im prew it. Yeah,

927
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 2: I mean.

928
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 3: Those and we said it Tuesday when Tomlin said those

929
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 3: guys were doubtful. He never says doubtful on a Tuesday.

930
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 2: Yeah.

931
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, the first time I can remember, you know, him

932
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 3: saying something like that on a I'm like that was strange. Yeah,

933
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 3: he just says we'll leave a light on for him

934
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 3: or something like that. Doubtful's like he's dangling it out

935
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 3: there for him in a different fashion.

936
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 2: Roman Wilson's one hundred percent healthy, right, Yeah, I would

937
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 2: be real interested in getting him a hat this week.

938
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 3: And that's been a big bone of contention with a

939
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 3: lot of people. And here's Arthur Smith was asked about

940
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 3: it today. What does he have to do to get

941
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 3: on the field. He said, Look, he missed all of

942
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 3: the preseason camp.

943
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 2: I'm pretty much all camp. Like he's working his way

944
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 2: back into game shape without playing in a game, because

945
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 2: you can't just throw him out there. He's been through

946
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 2: like you know how hard it is a runner oute

947
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 2: and run sixty of them? Where's out even twenty? Right?

948
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 2: And what's he giving you on special teams? Nothing? Nothing

949
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:58,360
Speaker 2: at this point because he missed the entire preseason, so

950
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 2: we knew this was going to be the case. Man

951
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 2: is even more valuable on game day than Scotty Miller.

952
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 2: Scotty Miller was your He does a lot of others.

953
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 3: He was an emergency snapper when you need your older

954
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 3: when you needed one.

955
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 2: He was a gunner when when you need one of

956
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 2: those I mean, And he's not a bad receiver. No,

957
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 2: I mean, he's don't think abou chef things like that.

958
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 2: I know I would, But like all our listeners, I

959
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 2: want to see Roman Wilson to I do too, I

960
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 2: I absolutely do. But I understand better than Van Jefferson

961
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 2: or Austin he might be. We don't know.

962
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 3: I understand why he's not out there yet because you

963
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 3: just can't take a rookie. It's again, it's a different

964
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 3: situation than taking a veteran like a Russell Wilson, and

965
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:39,919
Speaker 3: so different. You missed some time here. How long can

966
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 3: it take you to be ready to go again? Well,

967
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 3: he's done it before. Do you think Roman needs an

968
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:47,879
Speaker 3: injury to get a hat? He just needs to show

969
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 3: the coaching staff in practice that he is ready to

970
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 3: contribute and play, and not just as a wide receiver

971
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 3: because you're not one of the starting wide receivers.

972
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing is, I don't think he's ever

973
00:45:58,400 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 2: going to help on anything but wide receiver.

974
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 3: He might be an emergency gunner for you, things of

975
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 3: that nature, but you.

976
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 2: Got it's gonna be an emergency punt returner, right whatever.

977
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 3: You gotta have some kind of value beyond just being

978
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 3: a wide receiver.

979
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 2: I don't know where who will he'll have that. I mean,

980
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 2: they have to have six gunners they like better than him.

981
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:20,359
Speaker 2: He's never done it at all. Yeah, I mean, give

982
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 2: me any corner that's got a chance.

983
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 3: That's the problem until you absolutely need to play him,

984
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 3: and and they haven't really needed them. Now he could

985
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 3: be active because Cordello Patterson's down, but there he's a

986
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 3: running back and so you know, do you look at

987
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 3: that differently because I.

988
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 2: Mean that's the thing is people don't think about this

989
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 2: with running backs and receivers. If you're the number three

990
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 2: running back, you almost have to be a special better

991
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 2: play special team some sort. Definitely if you're a number

992
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 2: five receiver, you do, and probably if you're a number four.

993
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 2: So a guy like Roman has to prove he's a

994
00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 2: top three receiver. Now that might be easier to do

995
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 2: on this team than others, But how do you prove

996
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,839
Speaker 2: it if you can't? Yeah, you know, they're not going

997
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 2: to put Austin or Jefferson on you know, a healthy scratch, right,

998
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 2: and again, Scottie Miller's done some important stuff for you.

999
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 2: They yeah, yeah, yeah, right, I mean, is he going

1000
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:21,280
Speaker 2: to be an active you have five receivers active. Wilson

1001
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 2: might not get Jersey dirty, right, but you want to

1002
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 2: see them. But maybe there's with on some of the

1003
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:30,760
Speaker 2: injuries that they have this week, with guys who aren't

1004
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 2: going to play, it might help foster that a little bit.

1005
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 2: And you give them ten routes. But you know, you

1006
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:38,799
Speaker 2: also have to bring up probably both.

1007
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 3: At least one of those outside lineback probably both practice

1008
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 3: squad outside linebackers. Yeah, because you've only got two who

1009
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 3: are healthy right now in the active roster.

1010
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, and what if what get hurt? Right, what

1011
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:51,799
Speaker 2: if he does you know, misses a quarter, Jeremiah Moon

1012
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 2: gets hurt again, Like now all of a sudden, you're

1013
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 2: down to one guy. Well, then you're playing this a

1014
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:58,879
Speaker 2: whole different defense. Yeah, you know, like I know we're

1015
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 2: up against it for the show. But might you see

1016
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 2: some four to three, I mean, like true four to

1017
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:07,439
Speaker 2: three with like Wilson, maybe just living Nick Roberts and

1018
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 2: maybe you'll live a nickel. Yeah. They don't run the

1019
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 2: ball that well anyway. Yeah, and they're a big eleven

1020
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 2: team anyways, So yeah, you hope it's one more week,

1021
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 2: one week. Yeah, you just got to get through this one.

1022
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:21,759
Speaker 3: Absolutely that is going to do it for the show today,

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Speaker 3: Matt so for my partner Matt Williamson, for Justin Miller

1024
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Speaker 3: here on site keeping us on the air. For Tyler

1025
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1026
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