1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,400 Speaker 1: You know, man, I was in that kind of jail. I 2 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: sat in that kind of jail for a whole year. 3 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:08,960 Speaker 1: A lot of people, you know, got ghosts on me 4 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 1: during this four year stint. 5 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 2: Man, you know, King came down there and. 6 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 3: Subjected himself to searches and the way they discriminated against us, 7 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 3: and the way they treat us down there, and the 8 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:23,599 Speaker 3: system to come down there and see me while I 9 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 3: was in their system, and he did everything he could 10 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:29,159 Speaker 3: do to come down there to the penile system to 11 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 3: see me, but the system was so corrupt and so 12 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 3: caught up till there was no way to get him in. 13 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:37,520 Speaker 4: There, said man, when I was in the pen Kings, 14 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 4: don't help me down because he wouldn't the pimps that 15 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 4: y'all know. Butm B kicked it off and j Pittz 16 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 4: Hey man, uh free PEMPC. You know they all, Mike 17 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:49,840 Speaker 4: Jones all started, Paul Waller start. 18 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 5: How you end up being the only one hold him down? 19 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 5: Though they had a whole campaign, didn't. 20 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 1: I'm talking about are you new generations? While that we 21 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:05,320 Speaker 1: should watch the stuff and now started, Man, stay over here, man, 22 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 1: you messed with classic coachs over here, man, straight up 23 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:11,119 Speaker 1: you got classic coach and new generation over pips Man? 24 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 2: Which one are you? 25 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 4: Man? 26 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:20,839 Speaker 5: But they inspect the rappers that played Pimp. Look that's 27 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 5: that's my fault again. But what kind of dude was 28 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 5: pim C Man? 29 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 6: Well, PEMC Man was a real dude. 30 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 5: Man. 31 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 4: You know, he was very emotional. He said what's on 32 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 4: his mind? I remember a funny thing. 33 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 7: Man. 34 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 6: Emotional ain't good to say, bro. 35 00:01:57,720 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 4: I mean, you know when I'm saying, famil the game 36 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 4: is what not not in most though, what they call 37 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 4: us impulsive? 38 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 1: Sure? 39 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 2: What up? 40 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 4: PMC? 41 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 6: Talk to me, homeboy? 42 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 4: What's going on with this stuff in the ozone magazine? Man? 43 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 6: An A town is kind of furious to tell me 44 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:12,959 Speaker 6: how you took it. 45 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you what I meant. 46 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:16,239 Speaker 5: Okay, let me tell you what the A town is 47 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 5: saying A town is basically saying, you know, why you 48 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 5: do they think you dissing in Atlanta? 49 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 6: Talking about Atlanta's not not the. 50 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:24,239 Speaker 2: South all that. 51 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: I used to live in Atlanta from ninety sixty two 52 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:28,119 Speaker 1: thousand and one. 53 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:30,639 Speaker 4: Okay, all right, that's the first thing. 54 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,519 Speaker 1: Second thing is this, When I get off the airplane 55 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 1: in Atlanta, what time. 56 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:37,119 Speaker 7: Is It's whatever time it is out here, honey. 57 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 3: The standard time. 58 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 6: No, did you make any money with this with pepsi? 59 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 6: But then that is man. 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How you feeling with. 105 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 6: My hands and my toes? 106 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 4: You know? Every now and then, you know, mighty catch 107 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 4: somebody from some hose. 108 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 2: It's fucking with you. 109 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 6: Man, out the game, Man about out the game? 110 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 4: Hey man, just like uh, you know Michael Jordan's uh 111 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 4: Kobe uh you know, uh my man, Larry Bird, Magic Johson. 112 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 4: You know they was in the NBA. I was in 113 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 4: the n PA, the National Pimp Association. 114 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:42,359 Speaker 6: You did, right, but you retired, So what chatting? I 115 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 6: retired at the two three of the peat. Michael Jordan's okay, 116 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 6: how long you been retired? 117 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:51,039 Speaker 4: Man? It had to be since the mother showed that 118 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:53,720 Speaker 4: movie Really Really Pipped This Soft. They put my my 119 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:57,039 Speaker 4: movie pep Algy in court. That was about they put 120 00:05:57,040 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 4: it in court, sir child in. 121 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 6: School year Atlanta, Red got caught up. 122 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:05,280 Speaker 4: They had a movie called Really Really Pipping the Sell 123 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 4: and they put my movie in the court and they said, 124 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 4: this is another movie that was in Florence and yeah the. 125 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 6: Pimp, I said, okay, if that's the case. 126 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 4: Then well I might here like last year, so I 127 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 4: backed up like those jays has been up out this 128 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 4: like the bike can you know? 129 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 5: So okay, but they didn't have you in court. Hell, 130 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 5: you on some on some white slavery pip like light. 131 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 2: Man. 132 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. 133 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 4: To beat the indictment. You just let me. I was smashing, 134 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:33,039 Speaker 4: you know, for my ration with no passion. 135 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 7: Man. 136 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 4: You know like I said, Man, you know I'm like 137 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 4: the gingerbread man, catch me if you can't. 138 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:39,679 Speaker 6: Yeah, you know what I'm saying. 139 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 5: Yes, lo, I just be wondering because you know you've 140 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 5: been at the top of the this game for a while, right. 141 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:47,280 Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. I've seen niggas with little 142 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 6: status that you get caught up in things. You know 143 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 6: what I'm saying. So it's called miss pimper. Yeah you 144 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 6: got to be slick. Yeah, miss Pipper ain't no pippot 145 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,799 Speaker 6: at all. Is non contact sport. 146 00:06:57,839 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 4: A lot of the things men they run out of game, 147 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 4: they put their hands on the man and that's what 148 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 4: get them caught up. You see what I'm saying. So 149 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 4: you know one thing you got to do. You got 150 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 4: to understand that the game is a mind game. So 151 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 4: it's a game of psychology. You know, you got to 152 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 4: play a mind game. You know, you can't never control 153 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 4: the bra unless you can control the head. 154 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. 155 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 4: You control the head, you control the bread. So a 156 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 4: lot of dudes, you know, they try to control the body. 157 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 4: They you know, they try to be coxmen, you know 158 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 4: what I'm saying. So other worse, they let their little 159 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:23,679 Speaker 4: head all smart the big. 160 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 6: Head and then they end up caught up. Yeah, you 161 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 6: think gorilla pivot, get it up. Yeah, man, we don't 162 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 6: put but guillas and gorillas, you know what I'm saying. 163 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 6: What I'm saying, You know, we. 164 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 4: Run off the track. You go knocked up for autist. Man, Hey, 165 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 4: he putting hands on you. Don't put players on you. 166 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. 167 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 6: Lord, what was the prime years of your your run? 168 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 4: Well in ninety six, ninety seven, ninety at one, Pimp 169 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 4: of the Year, International pip of the Year, Local pivoty 170 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 4: I want every trophy it was so at that time. 171 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 4: Now I'm about the black and white mint to the game, 172 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 4: about the big crown rings and you know young having money, 173 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 4: you know, hundred thousand dollar bus downs from Jacob before 174 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 4: you know who Jacob was shopping with Uh, what's that 175 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 4: Tito down the street or Seventh Avenue, New York. 176 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 6: I was Jacob, you know what I'm saying. 177 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 4: He was a kid, when he was a kid kid, 178 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 4: you know, I think his family first put him into business. 179 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 4: So you know, he was just seeing that, you know. 180 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 4: And I always had the baddest you know what I'm saying. 181 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 4: So that's what that's what made me pimping kid. But 182 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 4: I didn't know that I was pimping kid. I didn't 183 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 4: know that. 184 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 6: I was a cold game. 185 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 4: You know. I was just living it, you know what 186 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 4: I'm saying. Cause my daddy was in the game. My 187 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 4: daddy was a hustle and to pimp. My uncles were 188 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 4: hustles and pimps, you know what I'm saying. So I 189 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 4: grew up and I just was doing I thought that 190 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 4: was naturally in me. I didn't even I don't even 191 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:39,559 Speaker 4: feel like you said I'm gonna be a pimp and 192 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 4: all that. I didn't feel like that, you know what 193 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 4: I mean. It was just like, you know, once I 194 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 4: got in the game, I just said, what's the roots? 195 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. And you can't win a game, 196 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 4: lets you know, the roots, so I knew the rules 197 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 4: of the game, and that's why I was you know, 198 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 4: I know, man, you know you couldn't do this, You 199 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:53,959 Speaker 4: couldn't do that. You know you couldn't you know, you 200 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 4: couldn't be riding around with you know what I'm saying. 201 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 4: But you know you can't, you know, get mad if 202 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:00,439 Speaker 4: you take your you know what I'm saying, take your 203 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 4: said you got to you know, take the accept the servant. 204 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 4: And I learned those rules at a young age. And 205 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 4: I learned the most important rule that you got to 206 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 4: go to the doctor to have a triple bypass, but 207 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 4: you got to help all the simpty remove out your heart. 208 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 6: So you know what I'm saying, you can't peep if 209 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 6: you're in your feelings. You know what I'm saying. 210 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 4: Me, he said, a lot like the way the pussy 211 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 4: feel Pippley kill, like the way to pussy pay the bill. 212 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 4: So that's when I was at my prime, at that 213 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 4: at that mindset, just having that, you know, like I 214 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 4: don't give a far And then you know, I always 215 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:31,199 Speaker 4: tell this story, I said, you know, my disdain for 216 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 4: women come from me being molested by my uh my 217 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 4: babysit when I was street. 218 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 6: Let go right there. Yeah, she raped me. 219 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 4: Then my mama left me for dead in prison for 220 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 4: five years, so I had to disdain for her too. 221 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 4: So you know what I'm saying. It was just like 222 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 4: I told, like I told Charlemagne. You know, I think 223 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 4: I was uh what you call that. I was something 224 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 4: for mental illness, you know, because I couldn't I could 225 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 4: wrap myself for I had no feelings. I could wrap 226 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 4: myself around a woman. I didn't fall in love until 227 00:09:58,240 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 4: my daughter was born. That's why I. 228 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 6: First experienced real love my first daughter. I was thirty 229 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 6: years old. You know what I'm saying. I would even 230 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 6: man a brow. 231 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:07,959 Speaker 4: I had to literally put a hole in the condo 232 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 4: to get you know, to get my seamen. I didn't 233 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 4: want to have no kids nothing. I was just that 234 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 4: you had one in thirty Yeah. Yeah, because that was 235 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 4: after being in the game as a young dude, just 236 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 4: mashing and crashing and study asking you know what I'm saying, 237 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 4: not even you know, even thinking about just give them 238 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 4: direction to hit the next intersection, you know, keep him 239 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 4: on the chase for a big face. You know, that 240 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 4: was my mentality. I wasn't thinking about no, you know, hey, man, 241 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 4: you know, you know, I love this bro, you know 242 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 4: because my old g Pip and Pope made rest in peace. 243 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 4: He gave me that game when we was in the 244 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 4: cell of the penitentiary in Green Bay Reformatory School. So 245 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 4: you know, I was young and he you know, I 246 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 4: was asking him why he was in prison. He told 247 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 4: me he was in prison. I said, man, I missing 248 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 4: Soning Man, he said, I read. I read the ice 249 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 4: pers Slim books. I read the dollar go on the book. 250 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:51,559 Speaker 4: I missed ther sut. He said, you can't have no 251 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 4: sympathy for He said, ain't no differencetween the in pocket 252 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 4: out of pocket pretty much ugly. She said, you pepped 253 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 4: his saying on all of them. And once I learned 254 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 4: that that was the mission Ingredy all the other stuff 255 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 4: he was that was theatrics. 256 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 6: Know what I'm saying this theater? Yeah, you ever have 257 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 6: a girlfriend working for you? 258 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 4: Well, you know, uh, my first and conor with the 259 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 4: pimpant I was sixteen. You know, my partner J. D. 260 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 4: Jive Divine from the East side of Milwaukee. He you know, 261 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:22,079 Speaker 4: he's one of the power heads and dude I grew 262 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:24,839 Speaker 4: up hustling with. He gave me a broad name dirty Red. 263 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 4: And you know what I'm saying, me, that's really like 264 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 4: my first real girlfriend. 265 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:33,200 Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. Everybody else after that was 266 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 6: like that. 267 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 4: You know, I like and I fall what I thought 268 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 4: was in love with him in there and break my heart. 269 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 4: You know the chick that I liked the most beautiful 270 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 4: darkskin his sister. Man, I was about twelve years old. 271 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 4: I walked there and seen her in the bed with 272 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 4: a thirty year old man. He busting it down. You 273 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. I mean, I'm like, whoa, you 274 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. I walked out the house. 275 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 6: It was her house. 276 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. Mama was gone. 277 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 5: You couldn't have just walked up. I like, guess something happened. 278 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 5: Well some had to happen. Yeah, yeah, Man, my heart 279 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 5: got broken. 280 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. 281 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 4: If I meant address it or nothing, well, well you 282 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 4: know not, because I was scared to do. He was 283 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 4: bigger than me, as a grown man, like, I can't 284 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 4: beat this grown man up. It was nothing I could do. 285 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 6: I was I was fearful, I was heartbroken. 286 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 4: I was like, man, and I think that's another reason 287 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 4: why you know I was such a great pelp. You 288 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, because I never I never got 289 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 4: rid of that trump. I had post traumatic stress disorder. 290 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 6: On the beach. You know what I'm saying. 291 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 4: This person played me. You know what I'm saying with 292 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:31,199 Speaker 4: the wood. You know, I remember I. 293 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 6: Went and stole some rings and it was some me 294 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 6: and means some. 295 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 4: Lady means I gave him on the little lady rases 296 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 4: like you know, man, I really like this Brad. 297 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. 298 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 4: But you know, and she know I'm talking about you know, 299 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 4: you know she is you know what say I mean. 300 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 4: But you know it kind of shaped me. You know, 301 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 4: I believe in the Christian faith they say the steps 302 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 4: of a good man's ordered by God. You know, God 303 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 4: know what you're gonna do before you do it. So 304 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:57,679 Speaker 4: I think you know, in the game, you know, it's 305 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 4: certain things that you go through that develop you and 306 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:02,439 Speaker 4: create you become the person that you are. You know 307 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 4: what I'm saying. I'm not just pipping can for a reason. 308 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 4: You know, I'm not winning all these piple the years. 309 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 4: I'm not you know, knock for the for the every 310 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 4: big time pip I didn knock him for the You know, 311 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 4: most an't got a phone call for me. Hey man, 312 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 4: I'm here to shave you do, but you should let 313 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 4: you know this some new rules, you know what I'm saying. 314 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 4: We break the plate, don't eat there no more. And 315 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:22,959 Speaker 4: they was like, man, you know what I'm saying. Me 316 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 4: when I was in d C, I just fouled out 317 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 4: from my man sego. I can't say that the people 318 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 4: who was gonna do it, but they was plotting to 319 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 4: kill me. That's how the atrocious I was on the track. 320 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:36,719 Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying meant it's a non context. Yeah, 321 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 6: but these were no pills. They were sims, you know 322 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 6: what I'm saying. 323 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 4: But they wanted to kill me because they said in 324 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 4: d C you can't sweat certain but you know me, 325 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 4: I was sweating every day they were locked down. You know, 326 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 4: I was a hyper super prostitute. You know what I'm saying. 327 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 4: I was mashing with no passion. And you know these 328 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 4: had a buddy buddy system. I wasn't a part of that. 329 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 4: I'm from Milwaukee to d C. I'm from a gangster town. 330 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, y'all. I won't to smoke 331 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 4: if y'all you know WHI chy'all want to do. I called, 332 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 4: they gonna come up here in twenty seconds if you 333 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:05,839 Speaker 4: get out of pocket. 334 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:06,559 Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. 335 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 4: But I ain't thinking like that. I'm thinking like, yeah, 336 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 4: like you just said, it's a non contact sport. But 337 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 4: Segull was telling me, man, they was mad because I 338 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 4: was sweating all that's all I would do all day? 339 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 6: What do that mean when you say sweating? How do 340 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 6: you knock it? How you knock? 341 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 4: So I might I might see if hey chill send 342 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 4: me to those opportunities over to Hey, She'll send me. Hey, 343 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 4: it's Pippy kN for the record. You know what I'm 344 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 4: saying me, Hey, not the records, far for the album. 345 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 4: And I'm saying, hey, I know you try to make 346 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 4: the mistakes for Foster play. Hey, come on, yes, say 347 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 4: and give it take a chance in the vans. So 348 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 4: you just talking like that. You follow her and you 349 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 4: chased it down the blade and she running and say, hey, 350 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 4: I know he told you not to look okay, to 351 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 4: sneak and take a pick. Yeah, Pippy kid, you know 352 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 4: what I'm saying me, Hey, tellest me I throw k 353 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 4: pay their candy bars say hey, take a pippy, can't 354 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 4: pay that. You know what I'm saying, I'm just sweating them. 355 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 4: That's what that is. That's called sweating them. You know 356 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Just getting at it. And that's all day. 357 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 4: And that was me. You ver said me. Niggas didn't 358 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 4: like that because they I was good. I had the lingo, 359 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, me all my shoes like 360 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 4: you know, I can think of it. It was original, you 361 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. I ain't I didn't fight for 362 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. Said it was like they 363 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 4: was threatened by then. I was a nice looking young 364 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 4: man that when I was young, you know I'm saying me, 365 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 4: you know, nice and healthy. I you know benepending me 366 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 4: a little cut, you know. And you know I dressed nice. 367 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 4: I ain't wearing number thows dollar shoes, you know, thound 368 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 4: dollar shoes, forsachi or money. 369 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 6: And you know what I'm saying. 370 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 4: Some of them say even though they had today's not 371 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 4: a dress, their shoes would be run down. They gave 372 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 4: us to be you know, my gas, I twitch gaters 373 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 4: every day, you know what I'm saying. And I and 374 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 4: I learned through an older PELLP named Rob Robinson out 375 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 4: of Milwaukee. You're someone Milwaukee giants, he told me. He said, Man, 376 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 4: the key of this game is to stay looking good, 377 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 4: he said, he said. Let the niggers sell it the dream. 378 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 4: But when you pull up, you beat the motherfucking dream. 379 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 4: So say, we're gonna get we gonna get rose, We're 380 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 4: gonna get this, We're gonna get that. When I'm pull 381 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 4: up on all that. So look at me and she like, 382 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 4: I gotta take the napew out of my pocket, of 383 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 4: my handkerchief and white eyeballs off my head because she 384 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 4: out of pocket got reckless. I bought, Oh, you know 385 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 4: what I'm saying. And then i'm I'm I'm. 386 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 6: Getting so is the broad don't popost to look at 387 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 6: no hell. 388 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 4: No, man, that's that's taboo. You can't look at it 389 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 4: when walk past, you hold your head down. You understand 390 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 4: you can't hang out with another uh uh PEPs horse 391 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 4: called hocialized. You can't hocialize with another you know what 392 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 4: I mean. It's like you know, I mean, it's a 393 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 4: real serius pivot, man, because the reason why if a 394 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 4: woman this is the only way we had an indication. 395 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 4: If my looked at you little, that means that my 396 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 4: like you know that they try to choose and you 397 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 4: know you got action at the telling you you got 398 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 4: action too, you understand. 399 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 5: Mean so that just off the look though your disease? 400 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 5: Or is it just on the blade that this go for? 401 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 5: I know you can't be at Walmart and the look 402 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 5: and you think she going or do the rules apply 403 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 5: all across the board? No, it only applied to the 404 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 5: pivot on the on the blade on the blade on 405 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 5: the blade, because you know, the blade was the best 406 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 5: state because it was like it was so cold that 407 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 5: you know, you know when you got action. 408 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:06,399 Speaker 4: If if if I'm riding in my in my beers 409 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 4: on my lap and do this, then I ride back 410 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 4: you do this, I'm back bending back on, I'm going 411 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 4: hard on the jumping out the car, popping you know, 412 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 4: pop pop, you know what I'm saying. Then you know 413 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 4: it's like, you know, said, what's up t you trying 414 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 4: to do? 415 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying? 416 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 4: You try to advance? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, Okay, 417 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:25,919 Speaker 4: come on, getting the car, throw the money in the 418 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 4: back seat. What's that thing? What's remember? 419 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 6: Okay, oh it's it's a seven or two. He for Vegas. Yeah, 420 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:35,479 Speaker 6: I'm looking at the service. Vegas. 421 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 4: Ain't say man, woo the woo the wool. You know 422 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 4: what I'm saying. I mean, And it's that that's simple. 423 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 4: So now you're telling me they want to kill you 424 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 4: about this? 425 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 6: Help? No, no, not. 426 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 4: That was from DC that ran d C. They was 427 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 4: some like some mafia tackles and they had a little 428 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 4: block that they controlled the pimping with, you know what 429 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:57,919 Speaker 4: I mean. And you know everybody respected them because they 430 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:01,399 Speaker 4: were some killers. You know me, I'm from Milwaukee, so 431 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 4: we don't give if you're a killer or not. You 432 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:06,160 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, I'm working. You know what I'm saying. 433 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:07,360 Speaker 4: I mean, you know what I'm saying. So I'm I'm 434 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 4: pressing these and he's telling me to stop pressing Seego 435 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:13,199 Speaker 4: telling me man chill. I was like, yeah, man, that 436 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 4: shit man, we pimping man. And I said tell him. 437 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 4: You know, we got a saying in Chicago if you 438 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:21,639 Speaker 4: set one, if you sweat one, you set one. So 439 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 4: if I'm set, if I'm sweating, your upsetting, you know, 440 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 4: send me so my is down too. You got action too, 441 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, then you like I said, 442 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 4: when you knock it, even after I knock, I said, look, 443 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 4: you got twenty four hours to get this back of 444 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:36,640 Speaker 4: the might be making a mad move. I might really 445 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:38,439 Speaker 4: not trying to choose. It might just be we call 446 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 4: it a mad but you know sometimes we get mad. 447 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:42,439 Speaker 4: They choose up on the pimping, so we say you 448 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 4: got actions after twenty four hours. 449 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 6: Up said me. You know, hey, man, let this hold 450 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 6: some money. 451 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 4: Man. You know what I'm saying me, And that's how 452 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 4: we move. You know what I'm saying. That's how the 453 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 4: game was, and that's how I played it. You know 454 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 4: what I'm saying. 455 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:54,679 Speaker 5: And you know, look when I was looking at some 456 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 5: old yours, I said, man, Pimpse took a liking the bro. 457 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 6: What was it about you? You thing Pempcy? What well? 458 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:06,120 Speaker 4: You know, pemp We met at the Sharp Tom Marlin Houston, right. 459 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 4: So I had a black mink on. He had some 460 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 4: mink shoes on. So I said, uh, damn, man o 461 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:14,159 Speaker 4: some nice shoes. I ain't know. It's pempc right. He 462 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 4: said that's a nice coat. And he looked at me 463 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:19,640 Speaker 4: and said, man, Peppy can for pimps down I said 464 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 4: you uh you like that, dude? He said, oh, Pemp 465 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 4: Sea for piking from the stone. And man, we left 466 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 4: and we went to the Mama house that day. And man, 467 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 4: ever since then we've been friends. Who was inseparable, right, 468 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 4: And so when he went to jail, I was there 469 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 4: when he up the strap on the bar right, you know, 470 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,120 Speaker 4: I'm in there, you know, and with the with the wool, 471 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 4: you know, Pemp you know back then he was doing 472 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 4: this thing, and you know, so he had like, you 473 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 4: know what I mean, I want to talk. Yeah, so 474 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 4: uh he tripped out and then uh so what happened 475 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 4: was what got us cool, was he went to jail 476 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 4: that day. 477 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 6: We were supposed to do something. 478 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 4: We did a song called uh with your Diamonds on 479 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 4: for my album uh Boss Pimps. So I had the 480 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 4: ime out with Chick Boss and John Doe and another thing. 481 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 4: And there if I do just made rest in peace 482 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:08,439 Speaker 4: out of Kentucky. You know what I'm saying, because I 483 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 4: was in the game that early, right, I was early 484 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 4: in the game, back in the ninety nine and ninety eighties. 485 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 4: In two thousand, So when he went to jail, I 486 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:18,679 Speaker 4: went straight down to the jail and I started visiting, 487 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:21,239 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And I was, you know, 488 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 4: walking through him. I think they hit him on some 489 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 4: kind of medicine. 490 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:24,159 Speaker 6: You know. 491 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:26,719 Speaker 4: I said, Man, pimp, you know what I'm saying, Man, 492 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 4: comfort the ship. Man, I did team Man, I said, 493 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 4: I did T in the P and minute. Ain't nothing man, 494 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 4: you know, it ain't nothing but adjustment, you know what 495 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 4: I'm saying me. So, and then I sent them. I 496 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:38,880 Speaker 4: had to send him naked pictures. You know what I'm 497 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:41,159 Speaker 4: saying me all the while he was in there. So 498 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 4: when he came home, you know what I'm saying, he 499 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 4: asked for me. He said, what king that? You know 500 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 4: what I'm saying. 501 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 2: Mean? 502 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 4: And you can see the movie. I got best of 503 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 4: both words said, man, when I was in the P 504 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:51,120 Speaker 4: and Kings, don't help me down, you know what I'm saying. 505 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 4: So that was one of the things, you know, you know, 506 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:55,199 Speaker 4: And I didn't try to do it because he wouldn't 507 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,879 Speaker 4: to pimp. See that, y'all know. Bom B kicked it 508 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 4: off and j pritz Man free pimpc you know, then 509 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 4: all Mike Jones and all started, Paul Waller started. 510 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:08,400 Speaker 5: How you end up being the only one hold him? 511 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 5: Down though they had a whole campaign. 512 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 4: Then well yeah, well you know, Jay Prince and all 513 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 4: of them, you know they probably you know, some probably 514 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 4: don't want to go to the penitential, you know what 515 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 4: I'm saying. You know, and you know they held him 516 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 4: down the campaign. But this was Pimp said, I did 517 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 4: just say this. I don't know who held him down. 518 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 4: I know this what he said on best of both worlds. 519 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 4: So by him saying that, then that just kind of, 520 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 4: you know, solidified our relationship. But you know, bum Bee 521 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:34,959 Speaker 4: held him down. To bum Bee was uh, he had 522 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 4: the free pem C. You know, Mama, Mama West, all 523 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 4: of us doing that, you know what I'm saying. So 524 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 4: you know, when he came home, then we started with 525 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:42,919 Speaker 4: each other. 526 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. 527 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 4: You're here, you know I had this two thousand. It 528 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:50,439 Speaker 4: was that year SL fifty five converted with Bens. He 529 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:50,919 Speaker 4: liked it. 530 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:53,879 Speaker 6: The compressor when he said in that song, a driver compressor. 531 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:56,959 Speaker 4: He was driving. My take my my bins, I take 532 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 4: his little Bisley and we're ride. Then we should go 533 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 4: up and down, uh from Houston to pour outa together 534 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 4: all the time. You know, you know, I had to 535 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 4: cheer with his match and I know his kids, you 536 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:07,439 Speaker 4: know his wife and all that. 537 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 6: So we was cool. And then one of your homeboys, 538 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 6: d J. 539 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 4: Jones. You know d J. Jones. Yeah, he was with 540 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 4: us too, So he the one invested in the movie 541 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:19,120 Speaker 4: Best of Both Worlds. So I kind of helped Pim 542 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 4: get like about three hundred thousand from Jones. He was 543 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:25,400 Speaker 4: one of the biggest hustling back then, you know, in 544 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 4: in Naeville. So we you know, even Paul, you know all. 545 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, you know, Tim and Terrell, 546 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 4: all those Moneys. You know what I'm saying. I'm really 547 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,639 Speaker 4: heavy in Natville with all them you know, priests, all them, 548 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 4: these all my little little you know what I'm saying. 549 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 4: When I was pamping, you know, they were getting. 550 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:44,360 Speaker 6: Get you you you would down here with the pimp man. 551 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 4: Well you know he was just man. Nasville have different 552 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 4: kinds of money, man, Yeah, come. 553 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:56,120 Speaker 6: On, man on me right now. They got us in Nasville. 554 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 4: Don't know a man for the record, Bigga d Man, 555 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 4: Hey Mand was so rich. Man. This had a truck 556 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 4: and the truck man had nothing but one hundred dollars 557 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:10,119 Speaker 4: bills like a like the you know, the cap and 558 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 4: then Paul Paul Paul used to ride with us. Yeah yeah, yeah, 559 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 4: big bus stous man way back in Tim and Terrell. 560 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 6: They gave me thirty thousand dollars. 561 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 4: They did a jay Z concert. We was talking about 562 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 4: that on Matt Hoffer and they did. They did a concert. 563 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 4: They gave me thirty thousand just to follow them around, 564 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,919 Speaker 4: and man, hey this how this how cold it was? 565 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 4: P I swear to God on my mama. I mean 566 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 4: we we had a show that they was doing. He 567 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 4: had like five roll lexus is about two hundred and 568 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 4: fifty thousand in a row. So I had to join 569 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 4: the suite to them. I walked in the room, I 570 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 4: see the money. I'm scared. I think it's a setup. 571 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 4: This money man, y'all ain't even put me in the truck. 572 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 4: So you understand. They was like, man, that ain't nothing 573 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:58,120 Speaker 4: in Nashville. Got different money, man, Man, hey they got 574 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 4: us drugs and Tim ahead the biggest drug case this 575 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 4: b it's a drug hug if you know, you know, 576 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:09,199 Speaker 4: like this one of them towns where I'm telling you listen, bro, 577 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 4: when I be going places, it did not be seeing 578 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,719 Speaker 4: the money people have put up and the money they 579 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:15,199 Speaker 4: working with. 580 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:19,120 Speaker 5: I'm like, and I come from this man, man, I'm 581 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 5: a product of this ship. 582 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 6: Man D gave the pm C three. Who do you 583 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,680 Speaker 6: think bird Man and them? They brought them niggas all day? 584 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 4: You know what cars And that's what I'm saying. 585 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 6: When they first popped off, you gotta think New. 586 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 5: Orleans really got a different kind of vibe about them. 587 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 5: They we we we really the hustlers. The jurelry Wining 588 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 5: was like, that's really us and they was down here 589 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:47,160 Speaker 5: go listen to the early ship. 590 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 6: We had heavy influenced with that man the cars in 591 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:51,679 Speaker 6: their video. 592 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 4: Hey, okay, you remember let me tell you a fun fact. 593 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 4: You remember t I P Yeah, that was the Richinal 594 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:00,920 Speaker 4: a rap label that Buck was signed to. 595 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 6: Yeah it Shore was was yeah, yeah, so I was. 596 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:10,360 Speaker 6: They had the song with Murder Rich and our Pistol 597 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 6: and all of them. 598 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,719 Speaker 4: So so the Buck get on when he was hanging out, 599 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,439 Speaker 4: because because if it went for Tim and Terrell, it 600 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 4: would have never been no a Buck with them and 601 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:23,159 Speaker 4: then juvenile telling uh Buck to go for fifty. I 602 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 4: know the the Bucket tell you that's why when you 603 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:27,440 Speaker 4: see Bucket my movie together, he said, my kid been 604 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,639 Speaker 4: with me since I was a kid. I watched the 605 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 4: whole process. I know, I know the whole cash money story. 606 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 4: I remember we went to the office. Many had like 607 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 4: three three. 608 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 6: Little little little rooms in there. 609 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,400 Speaker 4: And to remember Tim and Terrell, Now, they was giving 610 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 4: them money like that way back in the day. They 611 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 4: get They brought jay Z and cash Money at the 612 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 4: Height to Atlanta at the A Trail. I was there, 613 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:52,359 Speaker 4: That's why I first met Ja. 614 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 7: Yeah. 615 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, they throw They was throwing bottles and just because 616 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 5: we were fans of them down through here, we'll go pay. 617 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,159 Speaker 6: They got Birdman off the back of CD and just 618 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:03,880 Speaker 6: hit them folk. 619 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 5: They were booking. They still do that down here to 620 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 5: this day. I got homeboard man. That's in the streets. 621 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,880 Speaker 5: They got songs with your favorite rappers. They don't even 622 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,439 Speaker 5: give a fuck about them. They just win it. 623 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 6: They just like they went and gave him a fifty 624 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:17,120 Speaker 6: or something. 625 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:21,439 Speaker 4: That's what That's what d did with the Penci d 626 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 4: S just gave that. They said he said much twenty 627 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 4: five through that. 628 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 5: But you know what I be telling them, they be 629 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 5: making a mistake. They got to invest their money right. Yeah, 630 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 5: I know, man, we're playing with a lot of money. 631 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 5: But what happened is a lot of like my cousin, 632 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 5: he on the fresh team, they go in the house, 633 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 5: they get seven hundred thousand. Ain't supposed to be seven 634 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 5: hundred thousand at one place nowhere ever, you see what 635 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 5: I'm saying. So it's a mistake to begin with. But 636 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 5: that's how hard it's going, you know. And they catch them. 637 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 5: And this is the thing about the Feds. When they come, 638 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 5: it's almost like they know you about to re up. 639 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,160 Speaker 5: It's like they know I he should be about out. 640 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 5: He probably got all cash. Let's get him because it's 641 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 5: like it was for him. What he tells me is 642 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 5: that it was like I had just I was finna 643 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 5: go do something. And when I was finna go do something, 644 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 5: they came and they got all the goddamn money. 645 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. So the fars got a 646 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 6: different kind of game. 647 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 5: That's why I asked you, and that's why I think 648 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 5: it's interesting that you've been pushing that line so long 649 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 5: and being able to escape that. 650 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 4: You know what I mean. 651 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 5: I'm telling you that because they the statistics is play 652 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:26,919 Speaker 5: against that. 653 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:30,679 Speaker 6: What you do the ten years for bank robbing, I 654 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:32,399 Speaker 6: was a gangster folk you know. So he was a 655 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 6: bank robbing kind of nigga. Yeah, I was. 656 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:38,360 Speaker 4: I was robbing banks and slapping pistols, you know. I mean, 657 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 4: I'm from Pete. I'm telling you the greatest pimps out 658 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 4: of the greatest gangsters. Because when you match on that 659 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:47,879 Speaker 4: and you know you used to robbing jewery stores and 660 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 4: robbing banks and shit and getting thirty forty thousand part 661 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 4: you want that hole, you put that in the hole. 662 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 4: Like look, bitch, you know what I'm saying, bit this 663 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 4: ain't enough money because you get used to money. So 664 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 4: when you come from money and you get into the pimping, 665 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,199 Speaker 4: that makes you at a pimp because now you're not 666 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 4: a level of bitch. 667 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:02,119 Speaker 2: Up. 668 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 4: See my bitch going the strip club. She pulling out 669 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,719 Speaker 4: that motherfucker with ten fifteen thousand a night, nigga, Say 670 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:08,679 Speaker 4: how you do that, my bitch? When she turned it, 671 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 4: when she get in the motherfucking uh, when she get 672 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 4: in the motherfucking vip, you know, and the trick buy 673 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 4: some wings. She'll put eight hundred dollars gratuity. Then people 674 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 4: another seven hundred to at the end of the night, so. 675 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:24,879 Speaker 6: They whibbling them with the gratuity yeah, yeah. 676 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 4: Because the club got to get the bitch to gratuity. 677 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,639 Speaker 4: So we we busting real motherfucking game. You know what 678 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 4: I'm saying. Men were getting in for We getting in 679 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,119 Speaker 4: for real, and they can't really understand how the fuck 680 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,439 Speaker 4: is these niggas getting all this money. So that was 681 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 4: that was just how we was doing it back in 682 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 4: the day. You know what I'm saying. Man, You know, 683 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 4: motherfucker just come from the game and come from hustling 684 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 4: and having money first. 685 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. 686 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 5: But so you say you was a gangster a bank 687 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 5: rob back back then, I thought the pimping don't like 688 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 5: the gangster shit. 689 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 6: But you know, you know, everybody come from something, right, Yeah, 690 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 6: what was your hustle? I sold some shit. 691 00:28:58,120 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 4: What would you doing before yourself? Oh he was going 692 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 4: to school. You was doing it right there, So we 693 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 4: got to come from somewhere. I just come up and 694 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 4: I'm a pimp. 695 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 6: You know, of course not. 696 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 5: But it's an interesting dynamic because some of the pim 697 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 5: niggas will argue that the gangster ship, they ain't got it, 698 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 5: they don't want nothing to do with that. 699 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 6: That's what I'm saying. 700 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 4: When I got p I dropped the g and picked 701 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 4: up the p So you understand me. That's what you do. 702 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 4: You learn and you get in the game. You know 703 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 4: what I'm saying. 704 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 6: Ain't nobody just coming in the game knowing this ship. 705 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. 706 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 4: That would be fucking you. 707 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 6: Not knowing it. 708 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 5: But but some niggas coming in the game and don't 709 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 5: got the gangster trade in them. 710 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 6: Man, even to begin with, no. 711 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 4: You no, you shake the gangster, shake the gangs, I said, bullshit, pimp. 712 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 4: Most pimps are gangsters. 713 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 5: That's what I'm wondering, because I'm wondering how you cut 714 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 5: that off though, because I do a nigga go from 715 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 5: I tear your head off to hey man, this ship 716 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 5: here none contact sport. 717 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 4: I'm gonna show you how. Right. So you a pimp? Right, 718 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 4: you're a pimp, right, that's now right. Pimping ian Je 719 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 4: is a verse. 720 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 6: I mean, I'm not going send the bitch. You see 721 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 6: what I'm saying. 722 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 4: Once you get your I n G and you see 723 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 4: all the money that you can get off of a 724 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 4: bitch versus you know what I'm saying, you going out 725 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 4: there and ribbing and selling drug. Hey man, you're gonna 726 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 4: drop everything. Hey man, it's a nine okay, man, this 727 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 4: is what I gotta do to break this bitch. This 728 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 4: is who I gotta do to be accepting this community 729 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 4: of pipping. Then I'm gonna do all that shit. And 730 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 4: that's what That's what, That's what changed me. Because when 731 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 4: I first went to DC, let me tell you, I 732 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 4: went with a nine millimeter. My nigga grit pulled me 733 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 4: to the site and to say, man, can this is 734 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 4: a non contact sport. Man, you can't do that Milwaukee shit. 735 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 4: I said, Man, I ain't going nowhere without my Nina. Man, 736 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 4: you know I love me and I love this bitch. 737 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. I mean, he said, no, 738 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 6: you can't do it. You know what I'm saying. 739 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 4: Mean, And then you know, you start developing gang So 740 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 4: now when I wear my jewelry, if I see some gangsters, 741 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 4: you know, say, I'm gonna tuck my ship. You know 742 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 4: what I'm saying. You ain't tucky, No, No, that's what 743 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 4: I'm saying. This is what I'm saying. Don't. No, No, 744 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 4: what I'm saying. You don't if you're in the streets 745 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 4: and you got done, you ain't talking. But if you 746 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 4: if you pipping, you ain't got no pistol, and you 747 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 4: pip with your mind. He's like, man, these little for 748 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 4: to get me. So I got shot three times with 749 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 4: no millimeters. So niggas try to take my You gotta 750 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 4: stand on it. If you tuck it, I ain't not. 751 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 4: But you gotta sign no. No what I'm saying. 752 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 5: It's smart though, you gotta get you gotta play the smart. 753 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 4: I don't know. Let me let me explain Tucky. So 754 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 4: when I'm saying, Tucky, you don't wear your jewelry. 755 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 6: Around, yeah, I don't even say. You know what I'm saying. 756 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 4: You know if you ain't can see when your pimpy, 757 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 4: you ain't got no pistol. 758 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. 759 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 4: It's a non contact what you pipple with your heads 760 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 4: and mind game. So you know I'm saying you ain't 761 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 4: fitna be walking around and just being a lunch meat. 762 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 6: You know what I'm sayings will take you off. 763 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what I mean. So you know you pimp. 764 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. 765 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 4: That's how you able to navigate that. You know what 766 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 4: I'm saying me like, you know you ain't going nowhere 767 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 4: When you know. 768 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 6: Here's the interesting dynamic, bunch of shooting this ship. Yeah, 769 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 6: but here's the interesting dynamic. 770 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 2: Right. 771 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 5: So you see a bunch of niggas coming, you might 772 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:44,479 Speaker 5: gotta get prepared. 773 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 6: Let me, let me take your ship off. No, it 774 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 6: ain't that kind of shit. 775 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 4: Now, we don't take it like like I wear my 776 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 4: jewelry now, you know what I'm saying. I still don't 777 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 4: care a pistol. But it ain't like that. It's like, 778 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 4: you know, you just don't hang with suckers. No more 779 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 4: like every pipple of the country you can. You can 780 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 4: Goldie right there, you got any pill. If it's nine 781 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 4: pence there and some nicks come around and they got 782 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 4: on a mask or something, every pip gonna leave. They 783 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 4: will say, Man, this like some jack boys. 784 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, because we know if we're leaving, 785 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 6: it's different. 786 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 4: Lead taking your jewels now, I don't take No, you 787 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 4: got a misconception what I'm saying now. 788 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 6: But that what you said, though, peop. 789 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 4: But what I'm saying is that if I got on 790 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 4: a bunch of jewelry, and I know Goldie, all us 791 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 4: do it to this day, We're gonna take that jeury 792 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 4: gonna put it in because we're not fitting let on 793 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 4: just rob us of course, of course not Yeah, but 794 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 4: that's walking around with a gun. Of course he's not 795 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 4: gonna talk. But if you ain't got no gun and 796 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 4: your lifestyle require you to be gunless, you'll send me. 797 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 4: Then you got to use your finett. So that's what 798 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 4: I'm saying. You know, if I was going to a 799 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 4: grocery store and I got a million dollar for a jury, 800 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 4: I'm not for I'm gonna take the shop. I'm not 801 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 4: fornna walk in and let them niggas pop me. And 802 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure you. I mean, you carry a frost 803 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 4: so you cool. But you just said me, we didn't 804 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 4: do that, So that I'm said that was unusual for me. 805 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 4: I was used to wearing my jeurery and having the pistols, 806 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 4: and then it takes me for me. 807 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 6: You knows me. 808 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 4: So that's why I'm saying. It's the transition that. 809 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 6: You have to do. 810 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 4: How you have to move a little bit different than 811 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 4: you move if you got a pistol. 812 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 6: But you see a bunch of boys coming, you turn 813 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 6: that jews rump. 814 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, bitches, It's like, yeah, I got the jury on man, 815 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 4: I pull it up. See I on the track, I 816 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 4: pull off. I got all my jewelry on and stuff 817 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 4: like that, and I'm getting at the bitch. I want 818 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,240 Speaker 4: my motherfucker my sparkles to be sparkling at the whole 819 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 4: when I got my hand. 820 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 6: The gangsters never came through the track though. 821 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 4: Well you know I was because I was a former 822 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 4: a nigga that was was with the ship. A lot 823 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 4: of niggas didn't fuck with me to this day. 824 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 5: What about the other pimpings, pimps. Dog I see a 825 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 5: lot of pimps get robbed. 826 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 4: They get robbed, pistol whooped shot up. You know that ship. 827 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 4: You know niggas they tried me, but this was no 828 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 4: this was on no pimp shit. Theygga hit me three 829 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 4: times with I remember me. They asked me what they 830 00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 4: get you? What that happened? What happened with Well, them 831 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 4: niggas understan me. They ask for my shit. I told 832 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 4: him fuck them. You know what I'm saying. You didn't 833 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 4: pimp for it? And them, nigga, where was you at? 834 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,239 Speaker 4: I was in Milwaukee on my block. I jumped in 835 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 4: the car and when I get the car, they shoot 836 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 4: the car. About another hundred times. You know what I'm saying. 837 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,840 Speaker 4: But you know them niggas that did it. You know, 838 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 4: they these niggas know me. See like on my block, Pee, 839 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:19,920 Speaker 4: I'm like, you know what I'm saying, niggas. You know 840 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 4: I don't have no problems in the town. Like when 841 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:23,759 Speaker 4: I'm sing, when I'm telling you you know, and then 842 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 4: you know, even in Chicago, my cousin, I can tell 843 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 4: the lesson Arry who was right hand man. 844 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, but they shot your motherfucking ass. Yeah, because them 845 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:33,319 Speaker 6: niggas was trying to rob me. 846 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:34,440 Speaker 4: They was on that. 847 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,359 Speaker 5: Yeah, but they don't got no business doing that to 848 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,439 Speaker 5: pimp and can man. 849 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:40,760 Speaker 4: That's my point exactly. 850 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, they don't got no business. That's my point exactly. 851 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 4: That's why I didn't get them. 852 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 5: I always think about that because their hometown hate hit different. 853 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 4: Bro when they said prophet is never accepted in his 854 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 4: own home. You know what I'm saying. So my thing 855 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 4: was you know, and then you know I shouldn't have 856 00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,759 Speaker 4: been in that situation. It's it's more where were you at? 857 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:03,800 Speaker 6: Just Okay, so one of my partners, we was in 858 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:04,280 Speaker 6: the club. 859 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,160 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. Mean, and uh, I think 860 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,279 Speaker 4: this is what I think. You know, one of the 861 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 4: niggas bitches looked at me and the bitch you know, 862 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 4: I was pimpy kin, so you know, they was fanned out. 863 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 4: And then my partner, you know, I say, he said, say, man, 864 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,960 Speaker 4: drop me off. He lived in the hood, So I 865 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 4: dropped him off in the hood. Mysteriously, these niggas showed up. 866 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,240 Speaker 4: So I believe that he might have told them niggas 867 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,440 Speaker 4: that he was going home, and the niggas beat us 868 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:31,759 Speaker 4: to the spot. And you know what I'm saying. 869 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 6: Me the niggas, you know, they went to woo and 870 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:35,280 Speaker 6: me being where I'm from and knowing. 871 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:36,480 Speaker 4: These niggas, you know what I'm saying, because I grow 872 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 4: up with these niggas, I know they're gonna kill me anyway. 873 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 6: So I just wanted to say something slick. Did you 874 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:42,799 Speaker 6: so you knew who it was? 875 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,399 Speaker 4: Well, I don't want to say that because I want 876 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,800 Speaker 4: to put know shit like that, you know, because you 877 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,839 Speaker 4: know some a lot of motherfuckers, you know they they 878 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:54,640 Speaker 4: you know so it. But but the long and short, 879 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,440 Speaker 4: the easy side to the sturdy was you ever said me? 880 00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:58,960 Speaker 4: You know what I mean? I refuse to give them 881 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,040 Speaker 4: the jury. So when I woke up in the hospital. 882 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:04,560 Speaker 4: All my jury was in the hospital. Niggas they ain't 883 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:08,399 Speaker 4: get a doc. I told him fuck her. Then when 884 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 4: Mysterical came and talk, cause the niggas out of Milwaukee 885 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,239 Speaker 4: had a bitch robbed. The nigga Mistcal he get robbed 886 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,880 Speaker 4: for his jury, so he come in town, you know, 887 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:17,640 Speaker 4: to pick up the jury cause I got his jury 888 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:19,400 Speaker 4: back from niggas. You know, that's the type nigga I am. 889 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:21,200 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Nigga, you get robbed Miwaukee, 890 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,560 Speaker 4: I get your ship back. So these niggas who did 891 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,280 Speaker 4: this shit, like I said, you know on another podcast, 892 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:27,720 Speaker 4: probably the niggas that I trained. 893 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,840 Speaker 6: These niggas, you know, they know, they know, they know, 894 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 6: they know. 895 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,400 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. These niggas, I mean, you know, 896 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:35,840 Speaker 4: it's it's just so deep. I can't really get into it. 897 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:37,960 Speaker 4: But the nigga missed the COO when he came. I'm 898 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,400 Speaker 4: on the mic. I'm saying, fuck these bitch ass niggas. 899 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 4: Whole ass niggas. You understand me, you know, And I'm 900 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:46,239 Speaker 4: trying to, you know, find out what's going on. Then 901 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 4: the world got about a certain nigga then one of 902 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:50,400 Speaker 4: the nigga's brothers called me my partner. You know what 903 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,480 Speaker 4: I'm saying, that I used to hustle with. He said, man, 904 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:54,360 Speaker 4: the wool the woo. Man, my brother had nothing to 905 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 4: do with that, you know what I mean. Blah blah blah. 906 00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,799 Speaker 4: So niggas start, you know, making motherfucker peace treaties before 907 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,080 Speaker 4: this shit even got started, because they knew, you know 908 00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:03,440 Speaker 4: what I'm saying, on the east. 909 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 6: Side of me, didn't make no peace street after you 910 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 6: shoot me though. 911 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,560 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. But they they they didn't know. 912 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 4: They saying that they didn't do it, you know what 913 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:12,160 Speaker 4: I mean. They that's what they were saying. I don't. 914 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,920 Speaker 4: I don't know a lot of shit until later, you 915 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,080 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. I mean, but that ship became, 916 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,600 Speaker 4: you know, relevant, and you know, like I said, you know, 917 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:21,239 Speaker 4: this ship was was dealt with. 918 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,880 Speaker 6: But glad you're still here. That's the motion this. 919 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:24,600 Speaker 4: Shit was deal with. 920 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:26,440 Speaker 6: You know, how did how did you? How did you 921 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 6: come up out of that though? Did you pick them 922 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 6: strong or did it? Spooky eye? Did you? 923 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,960 Speaker 4: I told you? I went to to the Iceenbeller. I 924 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,279 Speaker 4: went to the Icebealler concert right after I got the 925 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,720 Speaker 4: hospital and I got on the micro I started cussing 926 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:39,359 Speaker 4: the niggas out. 927 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:41,719 Speaker 6: So this was after you got shot, right after you 928 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:42,240 Speaker 6: got shot. 929 00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:45,160 Speaker 4: Let me give example. Let me give example of who 930 00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:49,160 Speaker 4: I am. Right in Milwaukee. So my niggas, you know, 931 00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,960 Speaker 4: they was hustling, they had a spot and uh, my 932 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,440 Speaker 4: niggas call itself east Side geatess right. I'm not the 933 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,320 Speaker 4: east Side gates for all my niggas. All my niggas 934 00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:58,160 Speaker 4: they geagss right. 935 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,759 Speaker 6: So, nigga you under saying me was talking shit to me. 936 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:06,719 Speaker 4: I made a phone call being's his I rocks. Uh, 937 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,200 Speaker 4: this is a true stray nigga Milwaukee verified. They all 938 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:13,160 Speaker 4: rolled up with like the motherfucker Army, Navy, air Force, 939 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,319 Speaker 4: and marine about some peppy king. 940 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:17,920 Speaker 6: We run our city, we run our blocks, you. 941 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:19,879 Speaker 4: Know what I'm saying. So them niggas, you ever saying 942 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,360 Speaker 4: me like I said, It's just it's too intricate, you 943 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,000 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. It's a lot of families involve. 944 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,239 Speaker 4: I want to talk about it specifically. You know, the 945 00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:29,120 Speaker 4: ship might not turned out too good for motherfuckers, But 946 00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:31,719 Speaker 4: at the end of the day, you understand me. You 947 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,840 Speaker 4: know I'm that nigga, Like you said, you that nigga, 948 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:38,000 Speaker 4: I'm that nigga Milwaukee. All the gazers and killers fuck 949 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,960 Speaker 4: with me in Chicago. My cousin is I tell you 950 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:44,319 Speaker 4: that's Larry who was right hand man. Dang would g 951 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,879 Speaker 4: gub those are my cousins. Them niggas ain't feel leting. 952 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:49,879 Speaker 4: No niggas do nothing to me. You said what I'm saying, 953 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:51,960 Speaker 4: So I ain't that nigga to fuck with. But if 954 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:53,760 Speaker 4: a nigga on cocaine, if. 955 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:58,520 Speaker 6: Aga, you know, yeah, that's what it was basically with 956 00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:02,279 Speaker 6: some niggas that you know it got was was doing 957 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:04,160 Speaker 6: too much and crashed out. 958 00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:04,799 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. 959 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:08,319 Speaker 5: But I think it's interesting when you talk about the 960 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,920 Speaker 5: pens being the target for the gangsters, like someone being. 961 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:17,759 Speaker 6: Robbed and uh, you know the jewelry took. Motherfucker's pushing up. 962 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:18,759 Speaker 4: Break it down for you. 963 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:19,040 Speaker 6: Yeah? 964 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:19,400 Speaker 2: Please? 965 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:23,399 Speaker 4: Okay, So one game, pay another game? Right, you send 966 00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,759 Speaker 4: me an ounce of Potter. I go in the back 967 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:29,120 Speaker 4: at the crib and I blow that shit. Right, you 968 00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:32,120 Speaker 4: just show me ounce of Potter, Right, the bitch come in, 969 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:36,200 Speaker 4: give me one hundred thousand. I'm buying an ounce from you. 970 00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,359 Speaker 4: You said, I sell a potter. I don't fuck with 971 00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:42,280 Speaker 4: that grass. You go buy some weed from the weed man, right, okay. 972 00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:47,480 Speaker 4: The bitch that horn for me. She's peeling from my bankrope, 973 00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:49,240 Speaker 4: buying a little potter, getting a little weed. 974 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:49,600 Speaker 2: Right. 975 00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,600 Speaker 4: The nigga yes at me. You know, he said, you 976 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:54,880 Speaker 4: getting a little money. He kicks the motherfucking door in. 977 00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,719 Speaker 4: He look, take you and rob you, right okay, he 978 00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,160 Speaker 4: robb you. He gets you a little party, get your 979 00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,160 Speaker 4: little money. He goes to the strip club. Make it 980 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:03,080 Speaker 4: rain to the bitch. 981 00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:05,080 Speaker 6: Right, the bitch come back and give me the money. 982 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,960 Speaker 4: One game, pair another, you und said, mean, so when 983 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,160 Speaker 4: you're in this game, nigga, understand this is what come 984 00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:12,840 Speaker 4: with it, you undersaid me. That's why I don't condone snitching. 985 00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,759 Speaker 4: So nigga, if you get caught, understand me or like me, 986 00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:17,040 Speaker 4: I never had a co defended. 987 00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:18,600 Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. 988 00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:20,839 Speaker 4: I said every time I did say nigga can't can't 989 00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,600 Speaker 4: no nigga ever say Pepper can't snitch, because I always 990 00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:27,160 Speaker 4: was in the courtroom by myself. Know yeah, So you 991 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:28,920 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. That's just how it was with me. 992 00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:31,600 Speaker 4: So you understand, mean you know all my niggas Y 993 00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:33,680 Speaker 4: just said, we understand. I got niggas that's killers in 994 00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:35,879 Speaker 4: my crew. I got niggas that that fuck with part 995 00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,319 Speaker 4: in my crew. I got niggas understand me that might 996 00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,520 Speaker 4: bang a little bit in my crew. I got niggas 997 00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:42,560 Speaker 4: that piped like a motherfucker man Russian. You know what 998 00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:44,680 Speaker 4: I'm saying. I got hoes and and all that shit 999 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,759 Speaker 4: in my community. So we all know that any moment, 1000 00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:48,799 Speaker 4: any moment. 1001 00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,279 Speaker 6: Any motherfucker can get it, because one game pair another one. 1002 00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:53,480 Speaker 4: So the pimps ullerstaid me, if they out there and 1003 00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:56,359 Speaker 4: they slipping the unsaid me like I was that night, 1004 00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:58,640 Speaker 4: they said, I can get it. You know what I'm saying. 1005 00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,640 Speaker 4: I could have been a motherfuckertistic of Milwaukee strateistic. I 1006 00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:05,040 Speaker 4: could have been dead that night three times with the 1007 00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:08,560 Speaker 4: odds of me living is what. It's almost analogous to 1008 00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:10,640 Speaker 4: throwing the rock at the moon. You're send me so, 1009 00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:14,080 Speaker 4: you know saying, then I had to be in my thirties. 1010 00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:14,919 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. 1011 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,919 Speaker 5: I just so you gotta man, you look good. Yeah yeah, yeah, 1012 00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:20,560 Speaker 5: so you know now you look good. I ain't been 1013 00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:24,640 Speaker 5: putting game down for a long line. N you a legend. 1014 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:28,960 Speaker 4: But the interesting thing about all of this they shot 1015 00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:33,600 Speaker 4: me right, but I still wear my jewelry. I still 1016 00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,000 Speaker 4: ride through the hood and business. I'm like what I 1017 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,120 Speaker 4: pulled through. It's like, oh, man, is that one of 1018 00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:39,480 Speaker 4: the Milwaukee Bucks. You know what? 1019 00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:41,080 Speaker 6: They think? I'm a ball player? 1020 00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,560 Speaker 4: Right? You know? Said mean so motherfuckers. You know I 1021 00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,000 Speaker 4: still do that to this day. You know what I'm 1022 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:49,080 Speaker 4: said me. You know, I ride Rose Watson's buzziness to 1023 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:52,719 Speaker 4: the hood. Nobody robs me. The only nigga gonna ever 1024 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:54,600 Speaker 4: do something to me is a nigga on some drugs. 1025 00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:56,040 Speaker 6: Yeah. 1026 00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:59,400 Speaker 4: Well, the niggas, the niggas that robbed me, robbed me 1027 00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,759 Speaker 4: in DC. You know that's why I told you. Yeah, 1028 00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:02,960 Speaker 4: this is when I was a kid. You know what 1029 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,200 Speaker 4: I'm saying me. They robbed me. One of the p's 1030 00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:06,719 Speaker 4: that set me up. You know what I'm saying me, 1031 00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,600 Speaker 4: But he was on hairn a old g now nigga, right, 1032 00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:12,000 Speaker 4: he set me up. They robbed me and they with 1033 00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:16,319 Speaker 4: some dope figs. No gangster, no killer, nigga ever do 1034 00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:18,319 Speaker 4: nothing to me. Man, All the killers in the gamest 1035 00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:18,960 Speaker 4: is cool with me. 1036 00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:20,840 Speaker 6: All over the world. 1037 00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:24,319 Speaker 4: I got niggas down there in motherfucking Mississippi. I could 1038 00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,759 Speaker 4: stop my finger them niggas coming. You know what I'm saying, 1039 00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:29,640 Speaker 4: I got niggas. I I'm the ceold hip hop. I'm 1040 00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:32,279 Speaker 4: the f I got ten thousand members. Ain't number of 1041 00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:34,800 Speaker 4: bloods and crips and gatesters and gend's in my organization. 1042 00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:36,239 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Me the hip I'm saying 1043 00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:39,080 Speaker 4: the biggest organization in hip hop right now. All the 1044 00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:41,360 Speaker 4: killers and gagsters respect me. And then you know, I 1045 00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:42,719 Speaker 4: tell the truth. You know what I'm saying. Me like 1046 00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:44,759 Speaker 4: I said, I tell my fucker. You know, when I 1047 00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,040 Speaker 4: got shot, it was like a weird shit to be 1048 00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:48,640 Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm mad, Pete. 1049 00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:49,600 Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. 1050 00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,319 Speaker 4: I'm mad. I'm like, I ain't I'm not I'm not, dude. 1051 00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:55,440 Speaker 4: I didn't cry, I didn't nomber that shit. I'm mad 1052 00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,080 Speaker 4: because I'm like, you bitch ass niggas shot me. That's 1053 00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:00,480 Speaker 4: what that's That's what my mind was, like, you I 1054 00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:03,120 Speaker 4: want to kill everything that would nail down you know, 1055 00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:04,879 Speaker 4: but you know, we know the streets. We can't talk 1056 00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,440 Speaker 4: about certain ship, certain Ship ain't got no statue or 1057 00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:09,600 Speaker 4: another that ship. So I just keep that ship under 1058 00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,200 Speaker 4: you know, I mentioned it briefly, but at the end 1059 00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:15,840 Speaker 4: of the day, man like I said, nobody, Goldie go 1060 00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:19,000 Speaker 4: everywhere with me, my little nigga, gold We be traveling. 1061 00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,879 Speaker 4: He'll take you. Ain't nothing but respect, but Charlamagnet. See 1062 00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:24,280 Speaker 4: me when I was at yad event the Black Effect, 1063 00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:28,160 Speaker 4: Charlamae said, we gotta have pepper can when they see me. Uh, 1064 00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:31,480 Speaker 4: last week at the bet, he said, Nigga, I want 1065 00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:33,600 Speaker 4: you on there with Dot Boosie. I need you in 1066 00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:36,080 Speaker 4: there on on drink chains by yourself. You know what 1067 00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:36,399 Speaker 4: I'm saying. 1068 00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:37,760 Speaker 6: You reached out to niggas. 1069 00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,279 Speaker 4: Ain't number love and respect for me, So I ain't 1070 00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:45,080 Speaker 4: that nigga nigga. Like I said, one game pay another. 1071 00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:48,360 Speaker 4: The niggas came to rob me. That was their game. 1072 00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:49,720 Speaker 4: I respect that. 1073 00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:51,319 Speaker 6: It's part of the game. 1074 00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:52,080 Speaker 4: It's part of the game. 1075 00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:56,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, it ain't nothing. It ain't nothing to write home about. 1076 00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,320 Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. If you're a real nigga, 1077 00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:01,279 Speaker 6: just interesting, you know what I mean. 1078 00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:03,759 Speaker 4: If you're a real nigga, you're gonna get robbed at 1079 00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,920 Speaker 4: some point. You're gonna get shot or shoot the motherfucker. 1080 00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:08,040 Speaker 6: Or you know, I ain't been robbed. 1081 00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:11,560 Speaker 4: I had some stole from me. Yeh, I ain't been shot. 1082 00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:14,319 Speaker 4: See because you move, you moved with the unit, right. 1083 00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:16,440 Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. You gotta remember once I 1084 00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:17,680 Speaker 6: got in the pimpot. You know what I'm saying. 1085 00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:20,200 Speaker 4: I mean, you know, if a nigga, if I if 1086 00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:27,080 Speaker 4: I walk down uh say, uh. 1087 00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:27,319 Speaker 6: Man, I ain't been in Nashville. So a lot came 1088 00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:28,000 Speaker 6: hown the streets. 1089 00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:31,600 Speaker 4: But Jefferson Street, Jefinicity where Mirage used to be, that 1090 00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:35,120 Speaker 4: Jeffer downtown. Yeah. So if I'm walking down there and 1091 00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:38,280 Speaker 4: I got a bunch of jewelry, and it might. 1092 00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:42,080 Speaker 6: Be a hundred niggas from Nashville they say they didn't 1093 00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:43,520 Speaker 6: get a pass. That's Pippy Cane. 1094 00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:47,000 Speaker 4: It's gonna be one nigga from Nebraska who's up here 1095 00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:50,759 Speaker 4: hustling and like man, that nigga man much. Yeah, they 1096 00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:53,600 Speaker 4: gonna come at me. So any nigga can get it. 1097 00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,759 Speaker 4: You understand me. But the thing is, you said me, 1098 00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,239 Speaker 4: do niggas walk up to me and slap me in 1099 00:44:59,320 --> 00:44:59,839 Speaker 4: the law? 1100 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:03,800 Speaker 6: They not? And no, it just it's fucked up because 1101 00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:04,640 Speaker 6: the hometown. 1102 00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,600 Speaker 5: Hometown hate is always real, you know what I mean, 1103 00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:09,839 Speaker 5: It's always a thing. 1104 00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:13,200 Speaker 4: You know. I said, he loved me though it was 1105 00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,239 Speaker 4: just them a few bitch ass niggas. You know what 1106 00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:15,640 Speaker 4: I'm saying me. 1107 00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:19,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, but I'm saying though, you gotta deal with the results. Uh, 1108 00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,600 Speaker 6: you got hit in your city. To ignore that is 1109 00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:23,960 Speaker 6: that that? That ain't cool? 1110 00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:27,799 Speaker 5: No, no, man, you gotta deposit that that happening and 1111 00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:32,440 Speaker 5: acknowledge they love you. But for that to happen, that's traumatic. Nigga, 1112 00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:34,840 Speaker 5: that's funked up. For them to do that toward nigga. 1113 00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:37,480 Speaker 5: They they cross this world putting the game down like this. 1114 00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:39,640 Speaker 4: That's what I said. I said, Man, for them niggas 1115 00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:41,440 Speaker 4: to shoot me, man, come on, you know what that 1116 00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:43,279 Speaker 4: did for me, thought loon, To be honest with you, 1117 00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:46,040 Speaker 4: It gave me a whole disperspective. And I used to 1118 00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:49,120 Speaker 4: think everybody loved me. You know, I knew them those 1119 00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:51,280 Speaker 4: phoeniggas that robbed me in DC, that was a setup. 1120 00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:55,080 Speaker 4: I couldn't. That was them niggas. They you know, one 1121 00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:59,840 Speaker 4: of my partners, uh, Saint Louis. We was in his fleetwood. 1122 00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:01,680 Speaker 4: I said, Man, let me go get something to eat. 1123 00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:04,560 Speaker 4: I went to the Chinese food right there on M Street. 1124 00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:07,120 Speaker 4: And when I went to that motherfucker dude didn't know. 1125 00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,799 Speaker 4: If you make a turn in DC and you make 1126 00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:11,880 Speaker 4: the wrong turn, you gotta go damn there two miles 1127 00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:14,040 Speaker 4: to come back and get to it. So and that 1128 00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:16,680 Speaker 4: that time that he was trying to get back to me. 1129 00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:18,719 Speaker 4: You understand me, I was a lunch with me. I 1130 00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:20,960 Speaker 4: had all my pieces off, you understand mean, So I 1131 00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:22,960 Speaker 4: just got caught slipped, you know what I mean. And 1132 00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:25,080 Speaker 4: you know, anything you get. 1133 00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:26,719 Speaker 6: Caught now a real thing. 1134 00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:27,800 Speaker 4: Now I move different. 1135 00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:30,640 Speaker 5: I just I'm saying, though, I'm saying for you to 1136 00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:33,680 Speaker 5: be who you are and then put that game down. 1137 00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,160 Speaker 5: All around the world, it's just fucked up that that 1138 00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:40,440 Speaker 5: happened there to somebody like, yeah, that's just it. 1139 00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:42,800 Speaker 6: And to me, that's fucked up. You know what I'm saying, 1140 00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:44,880 Speaker 6: fucked up. That's fucked up. You know. 1141 00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:46,839 Speaker 5: But you said you got golded with you man, we're 1142 00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:49,160 Speaker 5: gonna bring him in. Man, we got gold it done 1143 00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:51,879 Speaker 5: joined us. Man, what's going on with you? Bro's going 1144 00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:54,640 Speaker 5: on with we popping some game? 1145 00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:54,960 Speaker 2: Man? 1146 00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:55,480 Speaker 6: That's all. 1147 00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,160 Speaker 5: Tell the people about yourself. A little bit before we 1148 00:46:58,200 --> 00:46:59,799 Speaker 5: get into back into the conversation. 1149 00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:02,960 Speaker 7: Man, you know, uh, game god, Goldie. You know it's 1150 00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:05,560 Speaker 7: not self for playing, but you know the people named. 1151 00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:06,960 Speaker 2: Me that you know, I just went online. You know 1152 00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:08,440 Speaker 2: it was just popping my shit. 1153 00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:10,319 Speaker 7: You know, just kicking some game and you know too 1154 00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:12,640 Speaker 7: many people was in the comments, just you know, writing 1155 00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:15,200 Speaker 7: game guys. So you just I just you know, adopted 1156 00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:17,319 Speaker 7: it as my moniker. And you know, I'm just going 1157 00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:18,640 Speaker 7: out here trying to wake dudes up, you know what 1158 00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:20,040 Speaker 7: I'm saying, trying to flip the script. 1159 00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:21,799 Speaker 2: You know, I don't come from the game. 1160 00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:23,680 Speaker 7: I was never no pimp, but I came up around 1161 00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:24,560 Speaker 7: a lot of players. 1162 00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:26,839 Speaker 2: So a lot of those principles. I lived my life 1163 00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:27,120 Speaker 2: by it. 1164 00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:29,520 Speaker 7: And I'm trying to give that ship to dudes out 1165 00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:31,520 Speaker 7: here who you know, just ain't living rights, you know, 1166 00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:32,759 Speaker 7: trying to bring their power back. 1167 00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:39,160 Speaker 5: Facts' blucking bro blucking the shot. No him, it's blucking 1168 00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:42,400 Speaker 5: this shot. But but that's that's good game. 1169 00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:42,640 Speaker 2: Man. 1170 00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:45,120 Speaker 6: What what you do before the before you got into 1171 00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:45,960 Speaker 6: the pimp game? 1172 00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:48,279 Speaker 2: Na? Nah, I wasn't never an you. 1173 00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:50,600 Speaker 5: Wasn't in the pimp game? So how you get cold? 1174 00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:52,759 Speaker 5: So the name gold is a pimp name. 1175 00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,439 Speaker 2: And you know my uncle Johnny Cash, shout out Johnny Cash. 1176 00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:57,239 Speaker 2: He gave me that name. He blessed me with that name. 1177 00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,520 Speaker 7: Like I said, I wasn't no pimp, But I came 1178 00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:01,880 Speaker 7: around lot of players, you know, I came up under. 1179 00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:02,800 Speaker 2: Them, and I saw the lifestyle. 1180 00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:04,880 Speaker 7: So I didn't camp per se, but I had a 1181 00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:06,960 Speaker 7: lot of weemen. I called it politamy, whatever you want 1182 00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:08,480 Speaker 7: to call it. I had a lot of women around me, 1183 00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:10,239 Speaker 7: and you know, so I took the flavor of the 1184 00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:12,640 Speaker 7: game and everything that they was doing and just integrated 1185 00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:13,719 Speaker 7: into what I was doing. 1186 00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:14,320 Speaker 4: Facts. 1187 00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:17,040 Speaker 5: So so, so what what would you say? What would 1188 00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:18,080 Speaker 5: you call what you're doing? 1189 00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:18,239 Speaker 4: Right? 1190 00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:19,440 Speaker 6: What would you call it? 1191 00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:23,359 Speaker 7: Man living like a king in his natural habitat, you know, 1192 00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:26,160 Speaker 7: you know, the same way you know we lived in Africa, 1193 00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:28,520 Speaker 7: the same way you know they do in the Eastern countries. 1194 00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:30,440 Speaker 7: You know, just living like a man should live. When 1195 00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:31,920 Speaker 7: you when you were a king, when you were a 1196 00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:33,920 Speaker 7: man of means. You know, you have multiple women and 1197 00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:36,520 Speaker 7: they accept the situation. You know, what we're doing around 1198 00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:38,960 Speaker 7: here is unnatural, and that's why most situations don't work out. 1199 00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,480 Speaker 7: That's why most dudes is miserable, you know, And I'm 1200 00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:43,160 Speaker 7: just out here showing dudes. Man, you could do it 1201 00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:44,920 Speaker 7: like that if you want to. You're gonna feel a 1202 00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:47,000 Speaker 7: lot more comfortable when you do it like that. Not 1203 00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:48,840 Speaker 7: to mention, when you step into your power and you 1204 00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:50,920 Speaker 7: are you supposed to be the woman gonna accept it. 1205 00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:52,279 Speaker 7: I've never really had a woman not. 1206 00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:53,359 Speaker 2: Accepted, right. 1207 00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:55,640 Speaker 6: Do you what you do? Before this though? 1208 00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:58,400 Speaker 7: Man, you know I was hustling, you know, trying to 1209 00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:01,719 Speaker 7: do little businesses here and there. Entpreneurship, you know, and 1210 00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:03,160 Speaker 7: you know, I was having a lot of lazy and 1211 00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:05,200 Speaker 7: they had jobs, so you know, we were all just 1212 00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:08,960 Speaker 7: trying to invest all money into different things, what. 1213 00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:10,799 Speaker 6: Kind of businesses like real estate. 1214 00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:11,080 Speaker 2: Real estate. 1215 00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:13,160 Speaker 7: Yeah, we tried some real estate. We tried a couple 1216 00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:15,600 Speaker 7: of shops, you know, so it was everything did it work? 1217 00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:18,160 Speaker 7: None of it really worked out, you know. It was 1218 00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:20,000 Speaker 7: all you know, the real estate that worked out, you know, 1219 00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:21,600 Speaker 7: And a lot of that gave me the transition to 1220 00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:23,279 Speaker 7: get into what I'm doing now, because when we sold 1221 00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:25,080 Speaker 7: a lot of the properties that we had, you know, 1222 00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:28,400 Speaker 7: it was a big income. It appreciated a lot. But 1223 00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:29,919 Speaker 7: I mean, for the most part, I was just really 1224 00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:33,120 Speaker 7: figuring out entrepreneurship. But all of those lessons, you know, 1225 00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:34,959 Speaker 7: helped me in uh what I'm doing right now. 1226 00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:35,760 Speaker 6: That's dope. 1227 00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:36,279 Speaker 2: That's dope. 1228 00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:38,440 Speaker 6: What's your thoughts on on the gangs? 1229 00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:41,719 Speaker 5: Just respecting the pimps since you not a pimp now, first, 1230 00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:43,920 Speaker 5: before we even get to that, because I think you 1231 00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:45,880 Speaker 5: kind of blended in with the pimp. 1232 00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:48,120 Speaker 7: Game, let me tell you this right here, right, It's 1233 00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:50,319 Speaker 7: a lot of different players in the game. It's not 1234 00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:52,120 Speaker 7: just a pimp. You got pimps, you got players, you 1235 00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:54,480 Speaker 7: got Max, you got whole hustlers, and you just got hustlers. 1236 00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:57,040 Speaker 7: So it's not just one individual in the lifestyle in 1237 00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,560 Speaker 7: the umbrella of the game. It's a lot of different characters, 1238 00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:00,000 Speaker 7: you know what I mean. 1239 00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:01,759 Speaker 2: So you can be in the game. Don't make you 1240 00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:03,120 Speaker 2: a pimp, you know what I'm saying. 1241 00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:04,920 Speaker 6: That's facts. That's good game though. 1242 00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:08,160 Speaker 5: I just think the name gold is struck out so 1243 00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:11,320 Speaker 5: hard for a nigga. Didn't want your relationships with dudes 1244 00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:14,239 Speaker 5: like Ken, And it's just it's a good game though. 1245 00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:17,560 Speaker 5: It's the game being applaid. Game is game, Yes, now, 1246 00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:18,880 Speaker 5: it's game being applaid. 1247 00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:21,239 Speaker 7: I was I feel like a lot of dudes out there, 1248 00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:23,720 Speaker 7: they just really understand that because they calling themselves pimps 1249 00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:26,279 Speaker 7: and they not even pimps. You don't understand man. You 1250 00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:27,920 Speaker 7: know you ain't got to be saying you a pimp. 1251 00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:29,359 Speaker 7: You could say you are. And a lot of dudes, 1252 00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:31,120 Speaker 7: these dudes, they don't give that's good game because they 1253 00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:34,120 Speaker 7: saying they're a pimp. But you're not abiding by pimp rules. 1254 00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:35,880 Speaker 7: Hey man, you could still be a player. You can 1255 00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:37,960 Speaker 7: still have game, and you could call yourself something else 1256 00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:39,160 Speaker 7: is still gonna get some respect. 1257 00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:40,399 Speaker 6: Now, let me ask you this. 1258 00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:41,360 Speaker 4: It's you. 1259 00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:45,440 Speaker 6: It's something on that pimp word spook spooky. 1260 00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:48,720 Speaker 5: To you know, if you call yourself pimp, you swooped 1261 00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:50,600 Speaker 5: to that pimp word that that won't. 1262 00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:53,560 Speaker 7: Load. 1263 00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:56,680 Speaker 2: Listen. That's why I say listen. 1264 00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:58,360 Speaker 7: If you if you know what a pimp really is, 1265 00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:00,760 Speaker 7: you got to give it respect for it is because 1266 00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:03,720 Speaker 7: they living and dying by certain rules. It's real strict 1267 00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:06,719 Speaker 7: dudes and do nots. And if you're not willing to 1268 00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:08,759 Speaker 7: abide by those dudes and do nots, then you can't 1269 00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:09,520 Speaker 7: call yourself a pen. 1270 00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:12,160 Speaker 6: So but you you might fall in love. It's love 1271 00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:12,960 Speaker 6: on the table. 1272 00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:15,840 Speaker 7: Well for me, yeah, man, listen. 1273 00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:17,120 Speaker 2: You know, I'm a player. 1274 00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:20,280 Speaker 7: Whatever I want, Okay, rules on myself. 1275 00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:21,160 Speaker 2: You know, I'm a boss. 1276 00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:23,080 Speaker 6: You gotta keep it, you know. 1277 00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:25,040 Speaker 7: And I'm gonna say this like this right, and that's 1278 00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:27,120 Speaker 7: no disrespecting nose pimps. But I feel like a pimp 1279 00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:29,400 Speaker 7: put himself in a box with the dudes and do 1280 00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:31,399 Speaker 7: notts and I can't do this and I can't do that. 1281 00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:33,160 Speaker 7: Of course, you got to live by principles. But I'm 1282 00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:35,200 Speaker 7: gonna come up with my own principles. You know, what 1283 00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:36,759 Speaker 7: I feel like is more of what I feel like 1284 00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:38,600 Speaker 7: is right. So I don't put myself in no box. 1285 00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:39,480 Speaker 6: Nah, that's dope. 1286 00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:42,360 Speaker 5: That's dope because for you to be able to stand 1287 00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:44,520 Speaker 5: on that, because it would have been so easy for 1288 00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:47,400 Speaker 5: you to just I can blend right in. Yeah, you 1289 00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:49,719 Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. So I really respect that. But 1290 00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:54,080 Speaker 5: I think, uh, what's your thoughts on that pimp? 1291 00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:57,960 Speaker 4: Well, you know, uh, they asked me about Sauce Walker 1292 00:51:58,040 --> 00:51:59,040 Speaker 4: doing only fans. 1293 00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:01,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm definitely I'm gonna ask you about the rapp 1294 00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:03,719 Speaker 5: up pilm too. I think that's a good conversation. 1295 00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:06,120 Speaker 4: So I say, I think the Sauce Worker is one 1296 00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:07,799 Speaker 4: of the best ever. Did he got away with it 1297 00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:10,040 Speaker 4: to get a bitch to show her feet and make 1298 00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:12,719 Speaker 4: three million dollars? You know, and the bitch ain't turn 1299 00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:16,160 Speaker 4: to date. That's cod Now, Goldie, to me, he's one 1300 00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:18,000 Speaker 4: of the best ever? Did it what he's doing? So 1301 00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:21,560 Speaker 4: Goldie is a a a influencer, and he's a communicator, 1302 00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:24,000 Speaker 4: and he speak really well, and a lot of young 1303 00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:25,799 Speaker 4: people look up to him. And the man got mellis 1304 00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:28,319 Speaker 4: and made of views on his uh page and young 1305 00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:32,400 Speaker 4: Goldie on uh on u Instagram, underscore on Instagram. So 1306 00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:36,320 Speaker 4: I think that the the the perspective that he's coming 1307 00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:40,760 Speaker 4: from as young Goldie, the game God has spending good game, 1308 00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:44,799 Speaker 4: they undersend me. It's just another twist on elevation and 1309 00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:46,319 Speaker 4: evolving in the game. 1310 00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:47,040 Speaker 6: You know what I'm sending me. 1311 00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:49,239 Speaker 4: See back then, you know, we had typewriters. Now we 1312 00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:52,200 Speaker 4: got dumb people with smartphones. You um send me. So 1313 00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:55,320 Speaker 4: looking at it from that perspective, it gives us another perspective. 1314 00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:58,279 Speaker 4: So I like the fact that Goldie, you know what 1315 00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:01,160 Speaker 4: I'm saying, don't call itself up, but call itself a 1316 00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:03,160 Speaker 4: game god, call itself a game spinner. 1317 00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:05,360 Speaker 6: He'll say that he got a bunch of women. But 1318 00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:06,000 Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. 1319 00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:06,919 Speaker 4: He don't call it that hole. 1320 00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:09,880 Speaker 6: He said, it's polligamy. You know, poligamy, you know what 1321 00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:11,400 Speaker 6: I'm saying, or whatever you call it. 1322 00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:12,600 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. He called it. 1323 00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:14,560 Speaker 6: He doesn't even call it that. He just called it, 1324 00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:15,399 Speaker 6: you know, being the king. 1325 00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:16,800 Speaker 2: Everybody living how I want to live in. 1326 00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:19,319 Speaker 6: I want to live and I appreciate him, you know. 1327 00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:22,080 Speaker 7: And I say this too, right, This is how I 1328 00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:23,719 Speaker 7: used to always play it, you know, because a lot 1329 00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:25,759 Speaker 7: of dudes, oh, he ain't no pimp, or he ain't this, 1330 00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:27,680 Speaker 7: or he ain't that. Listen, I say, like this man, 1331 00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:29,239 Speaker 7: call it what you want, but you can't call me 1332 00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:30,080 Speaker 7: bro right. 1333 00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:31,440 Speaker 2: I thought this ship was about the money. 1334 00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:31,600 Speaker 6: Man. 1335 00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:33,640 Speaker 2: You want to talk about you camping? You doing this? Man? 1336 00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:35,879 Speaker 2: You count here, it's not bread I'm counting bread man? 1337 00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:37,040 Speaker 2: What you mad at? The next years? 1338 00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:37,120 Speaker 4: Go? 1339 00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:40,399 Speaker 6: You see his gold race? Broswoy. I know he's getting money, 1340 00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:42,279 Speaker 6: ain't y'all? 1341 00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:42,840 Speaker 2: I know it. 1342 00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:45,560 Speaker 6: I know it's some money to go around. It's wonderful. 1343 00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:48,040 Speaker 7: All I'm saying is, man, I thought this was about 1344 00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:49,920 Speaker 7: the money. I thought it was about elevation. So I'm 1345 00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:52,000 Speaker 7: a man. Do that you feel me? Do it however 1346 00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:53,239 Speaker 7: you want to, and don't be trying to knock the 1347 00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:55,520 Speaker 7: next man just because he you know, however he doing 1348 00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:57,279 Speaker 7: his twist. But that's why I say, man, you ain't 1349 00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:58,680 Speaker 7: got to call yourself a pimp, and then you wouldn't 1350 00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:01,040 Speaker 7: even have that them type of you know at you. 1351 00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:03,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think, but if you got the if you 1352 00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:06,000 Speaker 5: got the bras, if they accepting it, if they bring 1353 00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:08,120 Speaker 5: in the bank, bro. Really, the only thing that stop 1354 00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:11,799 Speaker 5: you from being a p is that I might fall. 1355 00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:12,960 Speaker 4: In love with one of the heat bro. 1356 00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:15,239 Speaker 7: Not the only thing that stopped you from being a 1357 00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:17,640 Speaker 7: pe is you telling her to go out there and 1358 00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:19,040 Speaker 7: tell her aboy and bring you the money back. 1359 00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:21,520 Speaker 6: It's just a bottle, I thought. If it's for this being, 1360 00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:23,680 Speaker 6: long as the money coming my way, the bitch could 1361 00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:26,719 Speaker 6: be a CEO long as the money coming my way. 1362 00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:27,440 Speaker 6: You pimping on? 1363 00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:29,560 Speaker 7: I mean, I mean, it's different schools of thought. You 1364 00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:32,200 Speaker 7: got to ask everybody, and I think it's a good conversation. 1365 00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:34,520 Speaker 7: It's a gentleman named Jimmy Starr rest in peace. You 1366 00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:37,359 Speaker 7: know what he told me. He told me pimping is 1367 00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:41,160 Speaker 7: the art of usulizing, utilizing the bitch to do your bidding, 1368 00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:44,279 Speaker 7: whatever your bidding may be. Everybody may not come to that. 1369 00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:46,520 Speaker 7: But some people say, no, you ain't no pimp unless 1370 00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:47,839 Speaker 7: you sending a woman out the door. 1371 00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:49,040 Speaker 2: You know, get. 1372 00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:50,680 Speaker 4: Right? 1373 00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:53,080 Speaker 7: Okay you so, But it depends on who you asking, 1374 00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:54,200 Speaker 7: because I like to know. 1375 00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:56,719 Speaker 4: What take on it. 1376 00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:58,520 Speaker 6: When I say p im p, that mean put it 1377 00:54:58,520 --> 00:54:59,480 Speaker 6: in my pocket. 1378 00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:01,279 Speaker 4: And my book. Before they lost a guy say in 1379 00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:03,920 Speaker 4: every situation, that's a pimp and a hope. You know 1380 00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:06,080 Speaker 4: what I'm saying. The recordad was the pimp. The artist 1381 00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:08,400 Speaker 4: is the hope. The thing that about the pimpot you 1382 00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:11,200 Speaker 4: wanna make sure that you always the pimp and very 1383 00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:15,080 Speaker 4: leslie or very unusually uh uh uh very seldomly the 1384 00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:17,320 Speaker 4: oh so you understand me. That's all it is, you 1385 00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:18,840 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. Mean, it's being able to like 1386 00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:21,080 Speaker 4: he said, get someone to do what you need them 1387 00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:22,759 Speaker 4: to do. You know what I'm saying mean, Like you 1388 00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:24,560 Speaker 4: know my I'll give you a g a CLA A classic. 1389 00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:27,719 Speaker 4: I got two sons right, one named look Kenny, you 1390 00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:29,520 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying me and he's the dude on 1391 00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:33,000 Speaker 4: uh all American uh number fourteen. That's my son, and 1392 00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:34,920 Speaker 4: uh played the flute. So he's in he you know 1393 00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:37,960 Speaker 4: he's in Hollywood. But I got another son, ain't Supreme now? 1394 00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:40,640 Speaker 4: When uh, I used to pick up Supreme when he 1395 00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:43,959 Speaker 4: was little, they two years depart. The Kenny would cry 1396 00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:47,399 Speaker 4: and he will whine for me to put his little 1397 00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:49,080 Speaker 4: brother down to pick him up. So when I pick 1398 00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:50,759 Speaker 4: him up. You know what I'm saying, I'm tryna watch 1399 00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:52,239 Speaker 4: the game. I need to need to shut up. 1400 00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:55,560 Speaker 6: He'll stop crying. He just pimped me for my time. 1401 00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:56,359 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. 1402 00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:59,839 Speaker 6: I mean so pimper is basically getting what you want. 1403 00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:02,239 Speaker 4: You up send me. Now, a lot of women you 1404 00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:05,919 Speaker 4: upset me when they mother uh uh, when they young, 1405 00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:08,280 Speaker 4: they must say, get your good man with some money, 1406 00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:10,520 Speaker 4: Get you a a good man that's a doctor, gets 1407 00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:11,120 Speaker 4: you a lawyer. 1408 00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:14,600 Speaker 6: She teaching her daughter to pimp at that very young age. 1409 00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:15,960 Speaker 6: She pipping her situation. 1410 00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:18,319 Speaker 4: And a lot of times the niggas always get it 1411 00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:21,480 Speaker 4: confused about the pimpering. Hold. The bitches are the most notorious, 1412 00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:24,239 Speaker 4: believe it or not, Brother Law. It's more bitches out 1413 00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:28,000 Speaker 4: here selling pussy independent than it is bitches selling pussy 1414 00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:28,560 Speaker 4: with a pimp. 1415 00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:31,920 Speaker 5: I I feel like the pimp culture in a lot 1416 00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:35,520 Speaker 5: of ways lost his stronghold with the internet head absolutely, 1417 00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:38,040 Speaker 5: we just they don't need they don't need the the 1418 00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:39,000 Speaker 5: the third party. 1419 00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:41,520 Speaker 4: I fucked it up, you know, I mean yeah, I 1420 00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:44,200 Speaker 4: fucked it up by doing pimpculf holes down in American Pepper. 1421 00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:46,640 Speaker 4: I denounced both of them. And what I mean by 1422 00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:49,719 Speaker 4: that is, uh, you know Snoop Dog started doing pimp 1423 00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:53,400 Speaker 4: and shit. Uh makes fe fi fifty cent hair pimp 1424 00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:57,240 Speaker 4: uh uh uh t I had pimpscar click uh loopis 1425 00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:58,279 Speaker 4: pipping all over the world. 1426 00:56:58,640 --> 00:56:59,959 Speaker 6: Uh Nelli's pimp juice. 1427 00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:02,200 Speaker 4: And what they did was they sent a lot of 1428 00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:04,520 Speaker 4: young black men to prison because they wanted to be 1429 00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:08,120 Speaker 4: pimps and pimps. Upholes Down was like Scarface and New 1430 00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:11,479 Speaker 4: Jack City and American Pimp was to the drug gang. 1431 00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:14,080 Speaker 4: A lot of niggas went to jail trying to be Scarface. 1432 00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:16,360 Speaker 4: A lot of dudes go to jail trying to be 1433 00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:20,480 Speaker 4: me right, you know, and Bishop down on what what 1434 00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:23,080 Speaker 4: what do you think about the Uh let me call 1435 00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:27,160 Speaker 4: bruh see what they got. No, we ain't scheduled none 1436 00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:36,480 Speaker 4: of them things. After dawn they Okay, they stay THATAML 1437 00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:42,120 Speaker 4: oh that see s S D. 1438 00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:45,040 Speaker 6: You got something schedule that was going on. So some 1439 00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:46,240 Speaker 6: people came home they. 1440 00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:48,360 Speaker 7: Said that you gotta wheel that story, that a sex 1441 00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:49,640 Speaker 7: type story in here somewhere. 1442 00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:54,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, we just started about do I need to what 1443 00:57:54,280 --> 00:58:00,760 Speaker 6: we need to do? M Oh, what's his name? I 1444 00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:10,280 Speaker 6: canna said his name that they sitting there? Next up? 1445 00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:13,600 Speaker 4: What next? 1446 00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:17,080 Speaker 6: But yeah, so what do y'all think about? I wanted 1447 00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:17,960 Speaker 6: to ask y'all this. 1448 00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:20,160 Speaker 4: First. 1449 00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:23,520 Speaker 5: I want to deal with what your thoughts is go there, 1450 00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:29,320 Speaker 5: because I think we've identified with Ken that he has 1451 00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:33,520 Speaker 5: some resentment there. You know what I'm saying, the game 1452 00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:34,120 Speaker 5: to women? 1453 00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:34,760 Speaker 2: To women? 1454 00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:37,600 Speaker 5: Okay, what certain things happened when he was younger or 1455 00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:40,920 Speaker 5: through his life that kind of caused him to view 1456 00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:41,920 Speaker 5: them without. 1457 00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:45,360 Speaker 6: The without the love or or or or heart attached 1458 00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:46,479 Speaker 6: to it. You know what I'm saying. 1459 00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:53,640 Speaker 5: Do you think that most pips like do they have 1460 00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:56,200 Speaker 5: to Do you think that pimping has to have a 1461 00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:59,080 Speaker 5: disdain for the woman or can you love women and 1462 00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:00,360 Speaker 5: still get that down. 1463 00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:00,880 Speaker 2: With that game? 1464 00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:03,880 Speaker 7: Nah? I don't think that most pimp I can't say 1465 00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:05,560 Speaker 7: most PEPs. No, I don't feel like you have to 1466 00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:07,760 Speaker 7: have a disdain for women. I feel like that's kind 1467 00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:10,120 Speaker 7: of like, you know, that could be some people motivation, 1468 00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:12,400 Speaker 7: but a lot of people motivation, believe it or not, 1469 00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:15,560 Speaker 7: it's the money, just like man, a lot of these dudes. Man, 1470 00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:18,280 Speaker 7: keep it real, man. They wasn't even influenced by the game. 1471 00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:20,040 Speaker 7: They don't know nothing about the game. They jump in 1472 00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:21,760 Speaker 7: the game and try to pimp just for the money. 1473 00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:24,400 Speaker 7: They just picked. It was two options. I can sell drugs, 1474 00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:27,400 Speaker 7: I can pick on these holes. You know, these holes 1475 00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:29,560 Speaker 7: just look easier. So they chose that. They had nothing 1476 00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:32,360 Speaker 7: to do with, no disdain, no upbringing, no disdain against women. 1477 00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:34,200 Speaker 7: They just doing what's easy, trying to get some fast 1478 00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:35,240 Speaker 7: money what they think is fast. 1479 00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:35,480 Speaker 4: Right. 1480 00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:38,840 Speaker 6: It makes sense too, It makes sense. Do you what 1481 00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:39,880 Speaker 6: y'all think about the. 1482 00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:44,640 Speaker 5: Celebrity rapp or that that they go with the pimp 1483 00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:49,560 Speaker 5: game where he tries to embody the pimp, like I 1484 00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:50,840 Speaker 5: respect it from Pimp C. 1485 00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:51,480 Speaker 4: Number one. 1486 00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:54,200 Speaker 6: Let's deal with Pimp C because we got some six 1487 00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:57,600 Speaker 6: tape thing. We gotta speaker, right, But when. 1488 00:59:57,480 --> 01:00:01,640 Speaker 5: We deal with with pim c's his pimp respected or 1489 01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:03,960 Speaker 5: did pimp and can validate pimpers? 1490 01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:06,400 Speaker 4: But they didn't respect him at first, you know. And 1491 01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:08,280 Speaker 4: he used to always talk to me about that. So 1492 01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:11,200 Speaker 4: I had this white bra that I had, I gave 1493 01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:13,080 Speaker 4: it to her. She was in the game, and that 1494 01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:15,880 Speaker 4: solidified his game, you know what I'm saying. She stayed 1495 01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:17,880 Speaker 4: with him, you know, almost to the time he died 1496 01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:20,240 Speaker 4: about I know, I know he married and his wife, 1497 01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:22,080 Speaker 4: but you know, I just got to tell the truth, 1498 01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:23,840 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying now. On the sex tape, 1499 01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:28,120 Speaker 4: I stumbled up and I was showing Pempsy my Pimpology tape, 1500 01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:30,880 Speaker 4: which is the one that's on my podcast, pepper Can 1501 01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:34,440 Speaker 4: Podcast on YouTube and it's on there for free. So 1502 01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:37,160 Speaker 4: I was showing him that, and Pempsy showed me a 1503 01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:40,000 Speaker 4: tape with an R and B chick and a dude 1504 01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:42,400 Speaker 4: that was getting a lot of money at the tide. 1505 01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:44,800 Speaker 4: So you know what I'm saying. Everybody asked me who 1506 01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:47,080 Speaker 4: is the chick? I said, man, just use your imagination. 1507 01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:50,120 Speaker 4: You had Mariah Carey, you had Mary J. Blist at 1508 01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:53,280 Speaker 4: that time, yeah, Whitney Houston, he had beyond this, you know, 1509 01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:56,200 Speaker 4: Kelly Rod. It was a lot of people back then 1510 01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:57,520 Speaker 4: that was R and B. 1511 01:00:57,960 --> 01:00:58,480 Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. 1512 01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:00,360 Speaker 4: But it was only one dude that it was kind 1513 01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:02,680 Speaker 4: of rich back then. You know, you could figure out 1514 01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:04,240 Speaker 4: who was getting money back then. 1515 01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:04,680 Speaker 2: I don't. 1516 01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:07,000 Speaker 4: I can't say it because then I'd be saying the thing. 1517 01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:08,680 Speaker 4: The only reason why I don't see it a little 1518 01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:11,160 Speaker 4: because pim C didn said. You know, that's just like 1519 01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:13,680 Speaker 4: you know, like you said, you wouldn't have six y 1520 01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:15,680 Speaker 4: nine on your show, you know what I'm saying. Mean, well, 1521 01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:17,880 Speaker 4: you wouldn't have me on that either if I was 1522 01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:20,160 Speaker 4: snitching and said who on the take? And p C 1523 01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:22,280 Speaker 4: then you know condone that. 1524 01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:25,280 Speaker 5: Well, I don't know because I got the bird the 1525 01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:30,040 Speaker 5: nigga bird man brother what's his name, Terrence? Yeah, I 1526 01:01:30,120 --> 01:01:30,920 Speaker 5: got Terrence. 1527 01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:34,040 Speaker 6: Against williams So and people say he read it. But 1528 01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:36,120 Speaker 6: you know we're gonna get to that, you know what 1529 01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:37,800 Speaker 6: I'm saying. I want to let him about that. 1530 01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:41,200 Speaker 5: Okay, So about the rappers, yeah, but the but the 1531 01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:45,080 Speaker 5: but the rapper pimp game. The of course we see 1532 01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:47,120 Speaker 5: the influence from pimping. 1533 01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:47,960 Speaker 6: And the game. 1534 01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:51,440 Speaker 5: Because now gold is here, I'm gonna refrain from using 1535 01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:54,320 Speaker 5: so much of the pimp terminology and speak more so 1536 01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:59,280 Speaker 5: towards the game. Right, So we see that the game 1537 01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:03,840 Speaker 5: has in flues raped, but they respect the rappers that 1538 01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:05,680 Speaker 5: play pimp Loom. 1539 01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:09,520 Speaker 4: That's that's my fault again. You know why, because they 1540 01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:12,480 Speaker 4: told me pimper dies. I said, now, pemping multiply. So 1541 01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:14,600 Speaker 4: they were trying to tell me that, you know, doing 1542 01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:17,120 Speaker 4: movies and me and with me and Monroy was doing. 1543 01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:18,800 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying me that that ain't the game. 1544 01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:21,560 Speaker 4: But you understand me. Since I did that, you know, 1545 01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:24,720 Speaker 4: you got pimp Rollo, you got Pimp Silky, you got 1546 01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:28,320 Speaker 4: sugar Free. I influenced a whole culture of young men 1547 01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:31,680 Speaker 4: who are now very prosperous. And you know, bro, it's 1548 01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:34,000 Speaker 4: like you know Goldie all the other brothers who are 1549 01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:36,080 Speaker 4: doing something productive with their life. So you know what 1550 01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:37,960 Speaker 4: I'm saying me. You know the people that said that, 1551 01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:40,280 Speaker 4: you know them brothers from that era. You know what 1552 01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:42,120 Speaker 4: I'm saying me, I think they was wrong, you know 1553 01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:44,240 Speaker 4: what I'm saying me. So somebody had to change the game. 1554 01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:47,080 Speaker 4: So I changed the game and I started being prospers. 1555 01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:49,240 Speaker 4: Then they see me signing Boosy to a book deal, 1556 01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:51,360 Speaker 4: They see me sign a nice team to a book deal, 1557 01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:54,840 Speaker 4: Corey Wise, they see me on forty sixty million records. 1558 01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:58,439 Speaker 4: I'm going to record with Pimps. I'm on fire rector 1559 01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:03,320 Speaker 4: of PIMPC. One record with fifty cent, two records with 1560 01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:06,480 Speaker 4: Little John, one with Jamaine Japri, you know, five records 1561 01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:10,680 Speaker 4: with Pastor Troit. You know Ice Tea big Daddy came. 1562 01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:14,320 Speaker 4: I changed their culture. Now the young guys coming up 1563 01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:16,400 Speaker 4: under me, they said, Peppy Ken did it. I wrote 1564 01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:18,640 Speaker 4: two books best sellers. You know what I'm saying. I mean, 1565 01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:21,440 Speaker 4: I started the hip hop fraternity. I wanted rethers to 1566 01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:23,760 Speaker 4: know that. Man, when they say Pippy, don't put a period, 1567 01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:25,160 Speaker 4: but put a comma, you know. 1568 01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:28,640 Speaker 5: Or why is why is you holding the pempsea information 1569 01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:31,120 Speaker 5: while we holding pimps information? 1570 01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:33,800 Speaker 6: Because man, you know it's people. 1571 01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:35,960 Speaker 4: The people that did it, they went on to have families, 1572 01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:38,800 Speaker 4: they didn't got married and stuff like that, and you know, 1573 01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:40,760 Speaker 4: they very influential in the community. 1574 01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:43,240 Speaker 6: And you know, I don't want to say their names. 1575 01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:45,320 Speaker 4: I mean, people just cant pretty much figure out who 1576 01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:47,280 Speaker 4: I'm talking about. It's not hard to figure it out, 1577 01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:48,720 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. Mean, you know, if you 1578 01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:50,240 Speaker 4: use your imagination. 1579 01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:50,960 Speaker 6: You'll get who it is. 1580 01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:53,440 Speaker 4: But if I say the name and then I don't 1581 01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:55,560 Speaker 4: have the tape, then they gonna say what they call 1582 01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:57,800 Speaker 4: that shit blasphemy. You know what I'm saying. They gonna 1583 01:03:57,840 --> 01:04:01,160 Speaker 4: get me for defamation of character. So you understand me. 1584 01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:03,040 Speaker 4: I got to be careful not to say the name. 1585 01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:04,160 Speaker 4: But you understand me. 1586 01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:05,440 Speaker 6: You know, I can, I can. 1587 01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:08,920 Speaker 4: I can assure you that if you had to take though, no, no, 1588 01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:10,920 Speaker 4: if I had to take I would did they I 1589 01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:12,880 Speaker 4: wouldn't give it a defamations. I would have put that 1590 01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:15,640 Speaker 4: motherfucker out. But you know, it's a lot of rappers. 1591 01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:16,880 Speaker 6: I tell you who know it? 1592 01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:23,080 Speaker 4: Like man who who like seventeen pimpsy artists? You know 1593 01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:25,520 Speaker 4: what I'm saying me, he know it. You know quite 1594 01:04:25,560 --> 01:04:27,640 Speaker 4: a few people Bobo know it. It's a lot of 1595 01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:29,800 Speaker 4: people that know who it is. You just got to 1596 01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:31,200 Speaker 4: ask them. Maybe they might tell you. 1597 01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:34,880 Speaker 5: You know, but I do the rap do the pimp world? 1598 01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:38,160 Speaker 5: Do the game respect the rappers that play pimp'ma. 1599 01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:41,920 Speaker 7: I'm gonna tell you from my perspective, they don't. They 1600 01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:44,720 Speaker 7: just don't you feel me? Uh? And like I said, 1601 01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:47,800 Speaker 7: the dudes that I know, they really talked down on 1602 01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:50,400 Speaker 7: rappers who claimed the pimping. I mean, it's a few 1603 01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:52,320 Speaker 7: of them. That's you know that they would considered real 1604 01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:53,880 Speaker 7: ones that you know that they've been seen around. But 1605 01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:55,400 Speaker 7: for the most part in all they don't. But at 1606 01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:57,200 Speaker 7: the same time, niggas in the game don't respect other 1607 01:04:57,240 --> 01:05:00,640 Speaker 7: pimps anyway, niggas always questioning for real, niggas in the game, 1608 01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:03,120 Speaker 7: always questioning nigga right next to him pimpy. 1609 01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:04,040 Speaker 2: So they damn sure. 1610 01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:06,160 Speaker 7: You know, I don't know if I want to say 1611 01:05:06,200 --> 01:05:08,480 Speaker 7: it like that, but man, pimps are some haters. 1612 01:05:08,560 --> 01:05:09,800 Speaker 2: Man, I'm gonna lie to tell you. 1613 01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:14,480 Speaker 4: No, no, I said that I saw some hater. No, no, no. 1614 01:05:15,320 --> 01:05:17,040 Speaker 4: If you're gonna look at my everybody, I said, I said, 1615 01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:19,000 Speaker 4: when you joined the pimp club, you joined the hate club, 1616 01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:22,080 Speaker 4: I said. I said, because see, I'll tell you something 1617 01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:24,760 Speaker 4: and this is gonna tie to what you're saying. When 1618 01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:27,640 Speaker 4: when I was trying to get my feet wet, I 1619 01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:29,760 Speaker 4: was a no pimpy motherfucker. When I got rich, I 1620 01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:30,600 Speaker 4: was a drug dealer. 1621 01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:32,080 Speaker 6: Oh here I have. 1622 01:05:32,560 --> 01:05:34,320 Speaker 4: I had a pimp for every day. And now this 1623 01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:36,240 Speaker 4: talking about, oh, he ain't up with a drug dealer. 1624 01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:39,400 Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, they always trying to invalidate Choe pimping 1625 01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:41,520 Speaker 7: invalidate choe, you know whatever that's and that's just a 1626 01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:43,440 Speaker 7: part of the culture, you know, and that's a part 1627 01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:45,160 Speaker 7: of it that I don't like. It just seemed to 1628 01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:46,920 Speaker 7: me like, you know a lot of pimpcils that you 1629 01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:49,080 Speaker 7: just real caddy, like some broads you asked me. Sometimes 1630 01:05:49,080 --> 01:05:50,480 Speaker 7: I say, I say, these niggas be around they. 1631 01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:50,920 Speaker 2: Brows too much. 1632 01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:53,400 Speaker 7: They start acting like the god about what the next 1633 01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:56,280 Speaker 7: nigga got if he cheating on it? You know, easy boyfriend, 1634 01:05:56,880 --> 01:05:59,280 Speaker 7: why is another nigga worried about how another nigga getting it? 1635 01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:01,040 Speaker 7: If you really get why you're worried about how you 1636 01:06:01,120 --> 01:06:02,960 Speaker 7: getting it, whether he cheating or not, that ain't got 1637 01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:04,960 Speaker 7: nothing to do with your paper. But you know, no 1638 01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:08,440 Speaker 7: in the streets, no niggas do not you know respect. 1639 01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:10,040 Speaker 4: If you want to know, the key to that door 1640 01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:13,640 Speaker 4: a little is that when you were pimp, you're king. 1641 01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:16,680 Speaker 4: So whatever you do, the ay know, all the motherfucker's business. 1642 01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:22,000 Speaker 4: That's the rain that motherfucker hidden. Man's we got we 1643 01:06:22,120 --> 01:06:22,960 Speaker 4: gotta make it back. 1644 01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:25,840 Speaker 6: It just stopped though. That's what they do. That should 1645 01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:28,520 Speaker 6: be boords. Let's see. 1646 01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:28,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1647 01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:31,640 Speaker 5: But you know, man, I I p to pimpc man, Yeah, man, 1648 01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:33,320 Speaker 5: what kind of what kind of Yeah, it ain't gonna 1649 01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:34,680 Speaker 5: say thirty minutes of the start. 1650 01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:37,800 Speaker 6: What kind of dude was pim Ce Man? Well, PIMC 1651 01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:39,160 Speaker 6: Man was a real dude. 1652 01:06:39,240 --> 01:06:39,439 Speaker 5: Man. 1653 01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:42,680 Speaker 4: You know, he was very emotional. He said, what's on 1654 01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:44,520 Speaker 4: his mind? I remember a funny thing. 1655 01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:44,800 Speaker 5: Man. 1656 01:06:45,160 --> 01:06:47,680 Speaker 6: Emotional ain't good to say, bro. I mean, you know 1657 01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:51,000 Speaker 6: what I say from in the game is what what not? 1658 01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:55,080 Speaker 4: Not emotional? What they call that's impulsive. That's the proper 1659 01:06:55,160 --> 01:06:59,080 Speaker 4: word post. So so I'm I'm in Uh, I think 1660 01:06:59,120 --> 01:07:02,440 Speaker 4: I'm in Atlanta. One time Pemsey on the radio. Yeah, man, 1661 01:07:02,520 --> 01:07:04,880 Speaker 4: y'all niggas would do what we call it, it's Atlanta 1662 01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:08,960 Speaker 4: gay is the motherfucker. And I went some Atlanta niggas 1663 01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:11,200 Speaker 4: while he's saying it at seventeen in the studio, he 1664 01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:15,440 Speaker 4: and he around some Atlanta niggas and you know, he tripping, 1665 01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:18,640 Speaker 4: I'm tripping, and I'm like, you know the app we're 1666 01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:20,760 Speaker 4: doing all this ship And then the album was supposed 1667 01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:24,520 Speaker 4: to come out, uh you know, uh, the UGK album. 1668 01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:28,560 Speaker 4: But two weeks before the album, Pempcy self destruct. He 1669 01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:31,640 Speaker 4: just went to talking shit and said, fuck Atlanta. So 1670 01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:34,240 Speaker 4: I'm like, no, we can't do that. Yes, that means 1671 01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:36,360 Speaker 4: so we had built all this commaradity and all this 1672 01:07:36,520 --> 01:07:38,760 Speaker 4: unity with the you know, the Houston niggas and the 1673 01:07:39,080 --> 01:07:43,120 Speaker 4: Atlanta niggas, and then Pemcy just just for no reason 1674 01:07:43,400 --> 01:07:43,680 Speaker 4: did that. 1675 01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:45,600 Speaker 6: But then it was and graf at blood for them 1676 01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:49,680 Speaker 6: kids don't grab Yeah. Yeah, but he he was strategic, 1677 01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:50,400 Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. 1678 01:07:50,680 --> 01:07:52,560 Speaker 4: So what he was doing, you know what I'm saying, 1679 01:07:52,720 --> 01:07:55,360 Speaker 4: he was doing something that was going on inside him 1680 01:07:55,960 --> 01:07:57,520 Speaker 4: that you know, a lot of people didn't know that 1681 01:07:57,640 --> 01:07:59,760 Speaker 4: he was mad about. So what he was doing, he 1682 01:07:59,880 --> 01:08:02,840 Speaker 4: was just reacting to some shit and he was pretty 1683 01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:05,720 Speaker 4: much sabotaged in the project. You know, I know what 1684 01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:07,200 Speaker 4: he was doing, but a lot of other people that 1685 01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:09,200 Speaker 4: know what he was doing. But he had some issues 1686 01:08:09,240 --> 01:08:11,640 Speaker 4: with some people within his camp. You know, that was 1687 01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:14,720 Speaker 4: going on, you know, within the GIED records, the situation, 1688 01:08:15,120 --> 01:08:16,960 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So you know that's why 1689 01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:18,360 Speaker 4: he was doing it, you know, but. 1690 01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:19,679 Speaker 6: He had some issues. 1691 01:08:20,120 --> 01:08:21,479 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you know, like you know how the 1692 01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:23,439 Speaker 4: record they we don't do what they're supposed to do that. 1693 01:08:24,920 --> 01:08:27,120 Speaker 5: Back then, yeah, yeah, you know, so you know, did 1694 01:08:27,160 --> 01:08:30,719 Speaker 5: you make any money with this shit with PEPSI within 1695 01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:31,400 Speaker 5: that this shit. 1696 01:08:31,680 --> 01:08:31,840 Speaker 4: Man. 1697 01:08:32,160 --> 01:08:36,280 Speaker 6: Man, I've been on sixty million records. I get publishing. Nigga, 1698 01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:40,160 Speaker 6: we done saw TLC sale now but but but saying. 1699 01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:44,639 Speaker 5: Then publisher, did you make some paper with little Loonmarll publisher? 1700 01:08:44,680 --> 01:08:47,120 Speaker 6: I get paid every quarter? Okay, cool, cool, Well them. 1701 01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:49,240 Speaker 4: Nigga was asking me when everybody was laughing talking about 1702 01:08:49,240 --> 01:08:51,519 Speaker 4: that nigga kin a groupie and he jumping on everybody album. 1703 01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:53,639 Speaker 4: I was getting on them albums for a reason, because 1704 01:08:53,640 --> 01:08:55,280 Speaker 4: I knew about publishing. Nigga. 1705 01:08:55,320 --> 01:08:56,639 Speaker 6: Puffy taught me about publishing. 1706 01:08:56,880 --> 01:08:59,439 Speaker 4: Puffy. I did a song with Little Puffy I called 1707 01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:02,400 Speaker 4: Puffy PUFFECT called me and said, so, who's your publisher? Coman. 1708 01:09:02,439 --> 01:09:03,120 Speaker 4: I ain't even have a part. 1709 01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:03,720 Speaker 6: I just said can. 1710 01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:06,000 Speaker 4: I said can? I published it, And from that day 1711 01:09:06,040 --> 01:09:07,720 Speaker 4: on I got all my publishing. I found out that 1712 01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:10,200 Speaker 4: publisher is good. Eighty nine years after you dead, I 1713 01:09:10,240 --> 01:09:14,240 Speaker 4: also found out that here the lady that live here, 1714 01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:17,080 Speaker 4: Dolly Parton, you know, I'm saying. She did a song 1715 01:09:17,200 --> 01:09:19,560 Speaker 4: called I Would Always Love You. Whitney Houston redid the 1716 01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:21,880 Speaker 4: song in the movie The Bodyguard. Guess who got all 1717 01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:24,360 Speaker 4: the money? Dolly parton. You know what I say, I mean, 1718 01:09:24,439 --> 01:09:27,000 Speaker 4: I learned that. You know, when you go in the 1719 01:09:27,080 --> 01:09:29,679 Speaker 4: studio with somebody and you do a song, you gotta 1720 01:09:29,680 --> 01:09:32,400 Speaker 4: have a split sheet. That split sheet gives you your 1721 01:09:32,479 --> 01:09:34,320 Speaker 4: half and get the other person they have the record. 1722 01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:36,840 Speaker 4: But if you don't do a split sheet, guess what 1723 01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:39,240 Speaker 4: they do. They put the money in copyright control or 1724 01:09:39,240 --> 01:09:41,280 Speaker 4: a black box. So I had my lawyers to do 1725 01:09:41,360 --> 01:09:43,760 Speaker 4: it forensic account and they went and found all the money. 1726 01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:44,400 Speaker 6: You know I'm saying. 1727 01:09:44,439 --> 01:09:45,560 Speaker 4: So I had a lot of money coming, but I 1728 01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:46,880 Speaker 4: had to pay a lot of money to the lawyer. 1729 01:09:47,160 --> 01:09:48,800 Speaker 4: But then you know, I had to get all my 1730 01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:52,160 Speaker 4: shit situation. And I realized too that you know, I 1731 01:09:52,320 --> 01:09:55,960 Speaker 4: needed the file with the international publisher because an international 1732 01:09:56,080 --> 01:09:59,800 Speaker 4: like in Tokyo and Philippines and Japan, they got what 1733 01:09:59,880 --> 01:10:04,080 Speaker 4: you called techno music, so they'd be like other that 1734 01:10:04,160 --> 01:10:06,280 Speaker 4: might be a little Johnt song, If that's the song 1735 01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:08,799 Speaker 4: that I'm on, then you know they won't be publishing, 1736 01:10:08,920 --> 01:10:09,400 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. 1737 01:10:09,439 --> 01:10:11,320 Speaker 6: So you got to be able to understand all those 1738 01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:14,639 Speaker 6: do you think do you think that when you got 1739 01:10:14,680 --> 01:10:17,040 Speaker 6: all in the rap game, the mother pes didn't like, 1740 01:10:17,920 --> 01:10:21,120 Speaker 6: didn't like it shit like it's watered down. He watered down? No, 1741 01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:23,840 Speaker 6: because I was the I left see see pippery and 1742 01:10:23,920 --> 01:10:26,639 Speaker 6: quit me. I quit pimping. See you know, I left 1743 01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:27,080 Speaker 6: on top. 1744 01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:30,200 Speaker 5: But how how the niggas that was really mash and 1745 01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:32,519 Speaker 5: feel about You can hear Holland pimping. 1746 01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:35,720 Speaker 6: Oh oh you ain't really living you now? You don'e 1747 01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:36,720 Speaker 6: turn rap fan? 1748 01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:39,320 Speaker 4: Okay? So so so how they felt about it? 1749 01:10:39,560 --> 01:10:41,719 Speaker 6: Initially they didn't like it, like he said, they didn't 1750 01:10:41,800 --> 01:10:41,960 Speaker 6: like it. 1751 01:10:42,240 --> 01:10:46,040 Speaker 4: But guess what, I became really famous and guess what 1752 01:10:46,240 --> 01:10:49,160 Speaker 4: their kids started saying, Hey, man, dad, do you know Pippy? 1753 01:10:49,400 --> 01:10:50,920 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I can call it right now, you know 1754 01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:52,920 Speaker 4: what I'm saying. So the game flipped on them. So 1755 01:10:53,120 --> 01:10:56,320 Speaker 4: I'm so famous now as Pippy Kid. That a lot 1756 01:10:56,400 --> 01:10:58,600 Speaker 4: of niggas that don't like it. They like me, but 1757 01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:01,599 Speaker 4: then they understand. Now, nigga, see that I'm pimping the game. 1758 01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:04,799 Speaker 4: They niggas see, you know, I'm still looking good at sixty, 1759 01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:06,320 Speaker 4: still riding slick, you know what I mean? 1760 01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:09,600 Speaker 6: Yeah? You know, and so you know, got big jewel's. 1761 01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:11,000 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, nigga, You know I just 1762 01:11:11,040 --> 01:11:14,120 Speaker 4: don't wear but you know niggas know that now, So 1763 01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:16,760 Speaker 4: niggass like, oh, okay, it worked for him. 1764 01:11:16,920 --> 01:11:18,759 Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. But at first there was confused, 1765 01:11:19,120 --> 01:11:20,760 Speaker 6: and then you know, a couple of pilps even joined me. 1766 01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:23,519 Speaker 4: They started doing movies, and they started doing whoa Darn 1767 01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:25,000 Speaker 4: Wong's What's up with Help. 1768 01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:33,439 Speaker 6: You are watching It's Up There podcast, go to It's 1769 01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:41,840 Speaker 6: Up There podcast YouTube for more. You are watching It's 1770 01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:44,799 Speaker 6: Up There podcast, go to It's Up There podcast YouTube 1771 01:11:44,840 --> 01:11:45,200 Speaker 6: for more