1 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: The following Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football clubs. Are you ready for 3 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 1: a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 4 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 1: Ready for a break? Yeah, And so much for that. 5 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. 6 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 1: Were with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and 7 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 1: Derek Eagleton. It's Thursday, November eighteenth, twenty twenty one, Season seventeen, 8 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: episode number sixty four. Welcome to the latest edition of 9 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: The Break, live from the SWBC Mortgage Studios at the Star. 10 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: Nick sixty four. Wow, I'm gonna have to tell a story. 11 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 1: Oh okay, okay, that's a new thing for me. Yeah, 12 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell a story with this. So, I mean, 13 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 1: it's like two thousand and twelve, maybe eleven to them 14 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: twelve where in a training camp in ox Narn't. So 15 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: we're sitting there practice, you know, Jason Garrett likes to 16 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: have a little music going. Todd Archer, Oh god, who's 17 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: next to me? We're just watching practice and then you know, 18 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: we're out in California and they're playing California knows how 19 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 1: to party, right, So I don't know if I did this, 20 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 1: or Todd did this. I think I would do this, 21 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: but it doesn't seem like a Todd kind of it doesn't. 22 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:28,199 Speaker 1: But I think he did. I might have just taken 23 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 1: it to the next verse or two. So we're just 24 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:34,399 Speaker 1: sitting there practice and he just named Terrey Holland as 25 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: the starter. So practice is going on, you know, and 26 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: they got the music going and one of us just said, 27 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: Terrey Holland is now start. Oh, this is a clean version. 28 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 1: Many Holland is now the start. You know in the 29 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:56,559 Speaker 1: city city of oxnarn't. He keeps on blocking. He keeps 30 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: on blocking. It was funny. It was a lot of 31 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 1: funnier at the time. You gonna do those songs block 32 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: block it entree this week there you goo, Yeah, like 33 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: it was funny. It's funny. A lot of people in 34 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: the every year now you talk to different people that 35 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: are still there covering. They still when that song comes on, 36 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: everyone's like, Monterrey Holland. Yeah, he was awesome. He was 37 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: a cool dude, and you know, he was just a starter. 38 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: There's different versions of it, but the version heard a 39 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 1: different version you heard version, But okay, that's you know, 40 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: there's always a radio edit and then there's a different version. 41 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: It's a good bliss. That's good point another I got 42 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: another story about him. Sure, why not? I took my 43 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,239 Speaker 1: little girl to Disney on ice one year, like a 44 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: hundred dollars worth of Disney gear, you know, Cinderella sword 45 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 1: and wand and all this stuff. Twenty dollars tone whatever 46 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 1: it was. Rapunzel had a wig. Yeah, okay, And I 47 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: sent a picture. You took a picture since my momma 48 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: no response. Two hours finally realized I actually sent it 49 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 1: to Monterrey Holland said on my mom I don't even 50 00:02:59,919 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: know why I had a number. Yeah, he never responded 51 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 1: to that. I don't know anyways, love Montre Holland. He 52 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: keeps on blocking. Nick keeps yesterday to tell me this, 53 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 1: and I started thinking this song. It was in my head. Everybody, Yeah, 54 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: because everybody knows that's like Montrey Holland. Yeah, so that's 55 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: been the song. And I do apologize for the people 56 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: that I didn't pick. Larry Cole yesterday sixty three. Wow, 57 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 1: did you get a lot of those? It did a 58 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: little bit. Yeah, he actually knocked on my door one time. 59 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: Sixty three Larry Cole comes to my house weird. It 60 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: was kind of weird. But yeah, see you want to 61 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: tell me why you're always having weird runnings with street. 62 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: But like Nick's always like like he's like, yeah, I 63 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: almost hit that guy with my car. He had almost 64 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: hit Kellen More in the car. And there's no doubt 65 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: I was driving. He was running and you know, just 66 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 1: one of the weird things right right out here, right 67 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 1: out at the start, he was running. I don't know 68 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: why I can't just run over here, but he was 69 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: running in the street and in the street, well in 70 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: the sidewalk. Yeah, but the driveway sidewalk runs is one 71 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: of my biggest fears in life too. You know, like 72 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: when you're trying to turn like left onto a street 73 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: and you're like looking, make sure you're clear here, You're clear. 74 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: It's always the pedestrian that's like running, you know, like 75 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: you or somebody like you know, you always have the dollars. 76 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: It's almost happened to me before you right, you know, 77 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 1: because you're not thinking about them, You're thinking of the street, 78 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: you know. And so I kind of did that and 79 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: this guy I was like, it looks like Kellen Moore, 80 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:20,599 Speaker 1: So I mean almost it Kellen could have affected the 81 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: whole number one offense in the league. So who writes 82 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: that article? Nick I don't work here, weren't care Dallas 83 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: Cowboys dot Com responsible for offener writer. I might email 84 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 1: you and be like, look, I know this is a 85 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 1: tough time, but I ain't writing this. Come on, help 86 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 1: me out as as an outgoing present to us. Yeah, 87 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 1: why did you take care of this one? All right? 88 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: Then they're contributing writer then Nicky, Yeah, right there you go. 89 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,119 Speaker 1: All right, um, let's let's jump in and get some 90 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: some cowboys talk going here. We got in the second segment, 91 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:51,279 Speaker 1: as we do all the time. We got Bucky brook 92 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:54,359 Speaker 1: Joint Rocky Brooks joining us. We'll talk about the Kansas 93 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:57,359 Speaker 1: City defense versus the Cowboys offense during that segment. But 94 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 1: let's first start with some injuries. Are like, it's still 95 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: in your head? Is in there? This is why you 96 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: wanted to have some music like the music licensing. Obviously 97 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 1: we got some issues. But I apologize to Tom Rafferty, 98 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 1: the former center for the years. He puts a really 99 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 1: good player. There's an always an answer. But to me, 100 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: montre Holland was got Holland. All right, let's get a 101 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: catch up on Tyren Smith. Where is he? What's he doing? 102 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: It's good? He had a limited practice yesterday. He's gonna 103 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 1: do the same thing today. Um, like I said yesterday, 104 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:30,919 Speaker 1: Like Mike McCarthy's not gonna tell us how much he 105 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:35,119 Speaker 1: does during team but the arrow is pointing up it is, Um, 106 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:39,039 Speaker 1: but I didn't even do that on purpose. Good job. Um, 107 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: today's the padded day. Today's Mike said it today himself. 108 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 1: It's the heavy lifting day. So if he has a 109 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: good day today, that'll be a really good indicator. And 110 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: I I think that he will. You think that he will? 111 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 1: You think I think he's going to play in this game. 112 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 1: I already said that this week. Okay, yeah, cool. Let's 113 00:05:56,320 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 1: talk about Greg Zerline. He's actually returning from COVID today. Um, 114 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:01,840 Speaker 1: what do you think the Cowboys or what do you 115 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: think the Cowboys should do with Liam hava La? Who 116 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: is he on the practice He moved? He moved back 117 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: to keep him, keep him keep on practice? Not you 118 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:16,479 Speaker 1: got I hate to sound glib, but there's sixteen spots 119 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: like you don't need. You don't need every guy on 120 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: the practice squad to like be contribute, especially the team's 121 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: fairly healthy, right, Now, if you saw the practice report yesterday, 122 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: Mike was joking about that at the end of his 123 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 1: press conference. It's Tyran and then everybody else is a 124 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: full participate. So I know they've got a few guys 125 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 1: on IR, but they're not very banged up in terms 126 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:38,840 Speaker 1: of the guys that are available. So yeah, keep an 127 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:41,039 Speaker 1: extra kicker on the practice squad. Why not? Yes, you 128 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 1: have a big practice squad. Plus you have a guy. 129 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:45,359 Speaker 1: You have an offensive lineman that doesn't take up a 130 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: spot in Isaac number sixty? How did I do with that? 131 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: This is fine? Is like if people like to really 132 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 1: emphasize certain things, which I thought, that's what the that's 133 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: what the accent men. Yeah, at least Isaac A. Larkin 134 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 1: who's painfully white. Okay, that's what we're dealing with here. 135 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: I'm sure somebody is said that. Um, I did want 136 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: to talk a little bit. Let's go back a little 137 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: bit to the offensive line. And I'm gonna ask Bucky 138 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: about this, but but I want to get you guys's 139 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: opinion on it as well. Um, this week, Dallas is 140 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: facing some defensive tackles that that are pretty good. You 141 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: got Chris Jones, you got Jarren Reid. They moved Chris 142 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: Jones around a bit, but both those guys can line 143 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: up in the middle. They're right now leading Kansas City 144 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: and quarterback kits with nine and eight. How concerned are 145 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 1: you with that matchup, particularly with the interior part of 146 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: this offensive line? Obviously we're not talking about Zach Martin, 147 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: We're talking about Connor Williams, We're talking about Tyler Beatish. 148 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: How concerned are you with that matchup and those guys 149 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 1: being able to get that penetration up the middle that 150 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: can sometimes create some real problems for quarterbacks? Eight? Eight 151 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: at ten concerned level? Okay, I mean we have to 152 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 1: explain why. Well, this is a show where we do that. 153 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 1: So yeah, well, I mean hasn't been watching, I mean, 154 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 1: who hasn't seen I mean it's been holding fifty two. 155 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: I mean it's taking over holding seventy five. Back in 156 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 1: the eighties when Philpots Derek used to do it, used 157 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: to be holding number seventy five every time they played 158 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: the Giants he was. Now it's holding fifty two. So 159 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: let's you know. Yeah, I mean either either you move 160 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 1: li Ale Colums over to guard, or if you don't 161 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 1: do it, you just hold your breath and hopefully he 162 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 1: didn't hold Chris Jones all game. I didn't want to 163 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: ask you guys this the other day, but you guys 164 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: kept talking and talking, so I just never did. I 165 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:34,439 Speaker 1: sat hearing in silence, but I did have the question 166 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 1: in my head. We were talking about the line and 167 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 1: we were talking about Connor, and it just makes me wondering. 168 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: I know this coaching staff is not necessarily afraid to 169 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: make changes. We've seen it happen, but it makes me 170 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: wonder until as long as they're winning games, and as 171 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 1: long as like you don't get someone hitting dagged really 172 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 1: hard and you're like, okay, that's it, you're out put 173 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: someone else in to what extent? Or like, what does 174 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:04,439 Speaker 1: it need to really take for them to make a 175 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: move like that and put someone else instead of Carner 176 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: Williams Or do they just keep like, okay, we'll take 177 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: on whatever penalties and okay, not every pocket is going 178 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: to be completely clean for that you might have to 179 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: get out and go the other way and things like that. 180 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 1: But as long as they're winning, it's like, okay, when 181 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 1: when do we fix this, or if if they do 182 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 1: want to, I think I think when you have a 183 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 1: better option if when you have a better option, and 184 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:35,839 Speaker 1: I don't know if if if they believe like O'Collins, 185 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: moving to guard where he hasn't done it in five 186 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 1: or six years is a better option. I mean, and 187 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 1: I don't think they're going to do that until Tyrn 188 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:46,839 Speaker 1: Smith is ready to go and available, you know, or 189 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 1: if they do that at all. Rob made a good 190 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 1: point there, But when do you just say, hey, we're 191 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 1: good here on left tackle. Ever, I don't think you will. 192 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: I think you have to have three good tackles. Now. 193 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 1: If Tye and Seky factored back into this, that be different. 194 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 1: But I don't know if he does right now. So 195 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 1: I think that they feel like they've got three tackles, 196 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: and I think they I mean, you're living in the 197 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:08,959 Speaker 1: harsh reality of the NFL. I was talking about this 198 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 1: earlier today. You don't. It's hard to have five offensive 199 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: linemen that you feel great about, all of them in 200 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:19,959 Speaker 1: this league. The Cowboys were very fortunate that in fourteen 201 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 1: and sixteen they really had that, Like they great wall 202 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: and all that stuff. It's hard to pull off. And 203 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 1: so I mean, if they want to give Connor mc 204 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 1: govern a shot, I'm fine with that. Honestly, it doesn't 205 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 1: bother me, but they see these practices, they might not 206 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:38,439 Speaker 1: feel that he's up to it. And I can't just 207 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 1: hammer the table and be like, you're definitely making a mistake. 208 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 1: Like odds are, that's probably going to be the weak 209 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:45,839 Speaker 1: link on your offensive line no matter what you do. 210 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:49,599 Speaker 1: And every team in the league can probably relate to 211 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: that to some degree where it's like, yeah, our pick 212 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: a position. For some teams it's right tackle. They're like, yeah, 213 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 1: it's a mess over there, right, what are you gonna do? 214 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 1: There's been more talk, I think over the last several 215 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 1: weeks on Connor Williams and his issues, and not so 216 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 1: much that I've really heard or are seen regarding Tyler Biottish. 217 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 1: Has he played better or is it just a situation 218 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: where Connor's really a problem and so sometimes the problem 219 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:15,839 Speaker 1: gets all the attention when Tyler's having his issues too, 220 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 1: but everybody's just focused on Connor. I think he's played better. 221 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:22,079 Speaker 1: I think Tyler Biottish has cleaned up his game, and 222 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: that's which I'm not hating on us. It's our job. 223 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: But like when you're talking about this every day and 224 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: reacting to each and every game, That's why I always 225 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:33,599 Speaker 1: say like a season is a living, breathing thing, like 226 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 1: guys are gonna get better, Guys are gonna go through slumps, 227 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:38,719 Speaker 1: units are gonna get hurt. It's all part of it. 228 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 1: But I really think Tyler Biottish has played well this 229 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:45,679 Speaker 1: last month or so. And remember back when everybody was 230 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: worried about him, it was, well, this guy's only started 231 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 1: ten or twelve times in the league. You know, he's 232 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 1: still learning how to do this stuff. And so it's 233 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 1: encouraging to think that. And I'm not saying he's Travis Frederick, 234 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 1: but I think he has risen up to a consistent 235 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 1: level of play over this last month or so. The 236 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: way you ask the question should tell you enough, because 237 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: it's like we're he's not doing anything that really stands out, 238 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 1: or you don't see Dak just like kind of almost 239 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:18,079 Speaker 1: fumbling the ball right there with the snap. So the 240 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: fact that we're not talking about is should be enough 241 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: for you to say, Okay, he's handling the job good enough. 242 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: And I also think it has a lot to do 243 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: with his matchups. Right It's it's gonna be moments when 244 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:32,079 Speaker 1: he's having to play a Vita via type player, a 245 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: guy that's really strong, that's gonna line up on the nose, 246 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:37,199 Speaker 1: and because a lot of times the center is really 247 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: kind of helping out either to the left or the 248 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: right side. It's when you run up against that team, 249 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:43,559 Speaker 1: you know where you're gonna line up a nose on 250 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 1: the center, and he's gonna go at the center and 251 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 1: a strong one. I think that we've seen where Tyler 252 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 1: typically has his issues. I will say this, going back 253 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 1: to your original question, I think Chris Jones is one 254 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 1: of the most underrated players in the I ral. I 255 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 1: was talking to somebody of friend of mine last night 256 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 1: about how, of all, for all the credit that Chase 257 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 1: Young and Montes Sweat have gotten over the years, Jonathan 258 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 1: Allen wrecked Tampa Bay's game plan. That's another guy that 259 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:12,319 Speaker 1: we're familiar with who has the potential to do that 260 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:15,719 Speaker 1: type of stuff. And yeah, and I want to ask 261 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: Bucky about this. I'm not going to pretend to know, 262 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 1: but it seems like a storyline up there is Jones 263 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 1: has been bouncing around a little bit more like they've 264 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: been playing it at him and end more often than 265 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 1: they have in the past. And so I wonder, what 266 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 1: do you do in this matchup. I feel I would 267 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: want him playing against Connor and Tyler. Yeah, absolutely if 268 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 1: I were the chief, so I would be like, get 269 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 1: in there and wreck that. Between him and Read, I 270 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 1: would be like, those are your targets. Goal attack them 271 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: right here, you know. 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I'm 326 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 1: just laying out. I'm just laying out on that whole thing. 327 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 1: Live from the SWBC Organ studios at the Star. We 328 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: are joined right now by Bucky Brooks of NFL Network. 329 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk a little Kansas City defense versus the 330 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: Dallas offense today, and Bucky, I was looking at the 331 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: numbers on this defense right now. They are ranked twenty 332 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 1: six in rushing yards per temp, giving up four point 333 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 1: six yards per temp, and thirtieth in net passing yards 334 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 1: per temp giving up seven point four yards. Obviously not great. 335 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 1: Is there one thing that is more of an opportunity 336 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: for Dallas in the other run versus past, Well, I mean, 337 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 1: I think you got to prove both areas. I think 338 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: if the Dallas Cowboys, you have to come into the 339 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:25,920 Speaker 1: game thinking that you have to run it. Not only 340 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 1: running it necessarily for yards because you feel good about 341 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 1: ze Kelley and Tony Pollard. But I think this is 342 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: a game where you want to control the tempo. In 343 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:35,199 Speaker 1: the investor where you can join the temple is the run, 344 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 1: the ball drained the clock, not explode your defense to 345 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 1: a ton of offensive players from the Kannas City Chiefs. 346 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 1: I think the running game is curly could that strategy 347 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 1: because you don't necessarily want this to be a shootout 348 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 1: against kann City Chiefs. That seems odd to me. Just 349 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 1: when you when you're considering the number one scoring offense 350 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 1: in the league, the number one offense total yards in 351 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 1: the league. Um, you know what, why why would you say? 352 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 1: Why wouldn't you think Kansas City wouldn't want to do 353 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 1: the same. On the other end, are you saying Kansas 354 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:10,160 Speaker 1: City's offense is more explosive than the Cowboys. No, I'm 355 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:13,440 Speaker 1: saying I will worry more so just about protecting my defense. 356 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 1: I want to make sure that I give the defense 357 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 1: an opportunity to win the game. If we think about 358 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 1: it from a complimentary football standpoint, I mean, Kevin working 359 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 1: daveled up and they can throw it all over the yard. 360 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 1: But I don't know if you want to necessarily have 361 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 1: a forty five or forty two game against the Kansas 362 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 1: City Chiefs. Like we can say that they're struggling their 363 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 1: six and four, they're finding their way. But that quarterback 364 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:35,159 Speaker 1: on the other end is really really good, and I 365 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:37,119 Speaker 1: think Dak Prescott is good too. But I think if 366 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 1: I'm managing the team from the head coaching spot, what 367 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 1: is the best way for us to win? But the 368 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 1: best way that Dallas has always won traditionally over the 369 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 1: last decade has been when their offense dictates the term. 370 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 1: They run out to a lead, they run the ball out, 371 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 1: they run the clock out, and then they keep the 372 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: defense off the field. I think that's how they want 373 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 1: to play. I don't think you want the Cowboys defense 374 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:02,120 Speaker 1: playing seventy five snaps against cal Mahomes a company because 375 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 1: at some point the lack of pass rush will allow 376 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:07,399 Speaker 1: him to make too many big plays. Buck. We were 377 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 1: just talking about this on the first segment. Chris Jones 378 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:13,160 Speaker 1: kind of seems like he's bouncing around on this Kansas 379 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: City defense. What what do they have him doing right now? 380 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 1: What do you expect he's going to do on Sunday. 381 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 1: When we started out the season with Chris Jones playing 382 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 1: in they wanted to have him on one end, Frank 383 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 1: Clark on the other end, and it was okay, but 384 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 1: he was kind of like a fish out of water. 385 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 1: Team started running right at him. He wasn't comfortable and 386 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: despite all the immense talent that he has, he just 387 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 1: didn't have the same kind of impact. When they are, 388 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:41,719 Speaker 1: they have the flexibility to be able to kick him 389 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:46,399 Speaker 1: back inside. They traded for Melvin Ingram, they have Alex 390 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 1: Opa for so you probably see Jones more inside than outside. 391 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 1: And when he's inside, he's a dominant player. He's as 392 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 1: good as he's ever been. Yeah, Bucky, last week we 393 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 1: saw that always off the bag, get on that field 394 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:04,640 Speaker 1: and just have fun. A lot of energy, just having fun, 395 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 1: a lot of creative plays from Kellen Moore. Is this 396 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 1: a week that they just kind of go in being 397 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 1: themselves once again, or maybe Kellen Moore just kind of 398 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:16,159 Speaker 1: solidifies a little more and like limits this play to 399 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 1: keep it more clean. Not clean. But how do you 400 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 1: what's the word I'm looking for? Um, oh my god, 401 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 1: I can't think of the word in English? Worked clean well, 402 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 1: but it's not clean. But you know my point, and 403 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: I give the point. I think I think here's the thing. 404 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,160 Speaker 1: I think Kellen Moore has to be ready to call 405 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 1: the game that can go in a couple of different directions. 406 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 1: He has to be able to have enough plays on 407 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 1: the car. Sheat to be able to handle if it 408 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 1: becomes a shootout. He also has to have enough on 409 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: the call sheet where he can control it if things 410 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 1: are going the way the Cowboys want. I think part 411 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 1: of the job of offensive coordinated is to be able 412 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 1: to be number and flexible and then he kind of 413 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: figured out as the game is going and so there's 414 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 1: a plan A. But think he also has to have 415 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 1: playing BNC. But I think the emphasis from the Cowboys 416 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:07,639 Speaker 1: standpoint is always on the clean game, like if they 417 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:09,639 Speaker 1: can avoid the turnovers and they can fly in the 418 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: way to get the ball into the hands of their 419 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 1: playmakers early and often, you want to do that. And 420 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 1: I think this is a game where taking get big 421 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 1: games stars dictate the outcomes and so Ceedee Lamb and 422 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:25,440 Speaker 1: Mary Cooper, Ezekie Elliott, look Tony Pollard and Michael Gallaty 423 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:27,679 Speaker 1: also after a rolls. But I think this is if 424 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:29,639 Speaker 1: we were playing a video game of Madden Man. Just 425 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 1: get the ball to your best players over and over 426 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:33,120 Speaker 1: and over again. At some point they will make something 427 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: big happen. Yeah, I'm gonna go back a little bit 428 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: to that conversation we're having on Chris Jones, and I'm 429 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 1: gonna throw in Jarreen Reid as well. They are both 430 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 1: they're both leading that team and quarterback hits with nine 431 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 1: and eight, respectively. What kind of when you think about 432 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 1: them and you think about the matchup on the other 433 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 1: side of the Cowboys with Connor Williams and Tyler Beotish, 434 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 1: what kind of challenges do they present to Dallas, particularly 435 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 1: from the standpoint of the strength there in the middle, 436 00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 1: when they decide to push Chris Jones down inside. What 437 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:05,400 Speaker 1: kind of a challenge is that present for Dallas. It's 438 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 1: a big challenge. I mean, I heard you guys talking 439 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 1: about Tyler guard is playing better, and we know what 440 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 1: color Williams is. I mean, look, it's an issue. It's 441 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,119 Speaker 1: an issue inside if those guys get going, and I 442 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 1: think the first quarter will kind of dictate everything. If 443 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 1: the Cowboys are playing on the other side of the 444 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage on the offense, then it's going well 445 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:25,159 Speaker 1: because they're creating a push. But if Jared Reid and 446 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 1: Chris Jones are having their way early, particularly on the inside, 447 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 1: it's problematic because what it does is it disrupts the 448 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 1: rhythm of the passing game because now Dak Prescott can't 449 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:37,120 Speaker 1: throw from in the middle of the pocket. He's having 450 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:40,119 Speaker 1: to move around and anytime the quarterback starts moving around 451 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 1: a lot of times the accuracy begins to wayne because 452 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:47,120 Speaker 1: you're not in a comfortable spot that into your three. 453 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 1: They got to play well. Because they don't play well, 454 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a long day for the Cowboys. Do 455 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 1: you think this is another reason why running the ball 456 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 1: seems to be a better option for Dallas, at least 457 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 1: establishing the run so you don't get in situation where 458 00:22:58,359 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 1: those guys are just being able to just kind of 459 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 1: run after the quarterback. I mean, look, I want them 460 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 1: to run it, but I don't necessarily means you got 461 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:08,680 Speaker 1: to come out in the first twenty players have to 462 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 1: be all runs. I think at some point you have 463 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 1: to be able to run it when everyone in the 464 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 1: stadium knows that you're running it. I think a Comfortbay 465 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 1: strategy would be if they could come out early throwing, 466 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 1: because you've seen the Cowboys do this, throw early, run late, 467 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 1: and the first quarter, come out getting the ball outside, 468 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 1: make them run from sideline to sideline to also tire 469 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 1: down Christ Jones and there and remade them chase the 470 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 1: guys on the perimeter. And then as you settle into 471 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 1: the game and the end of the first quarter, second quarter, 472 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 1: then you begin to have a steady dose of Ezekiel 473 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 1: Elliot and Tony Pollen and those things. The running has 474 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 1: to be effective in the second half because in the 475 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:44,920 Speaker 1: second half, if you're up, you have to be able 476 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 1: to control it. You got to be able to run it. 477 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 1: When everyone knows a man's a critical situation, they're trying 478 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 1: to run the clock out, you have to be able 479 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 1: to do it. So that's what I mean. I would say, 480 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 1: just keep an eye on the attempts more so than 481 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 1: the yards. If the Cowboys get over thirty attempts, then 482 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,479 Speaker 1: the game is under control in their playing the game 483 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 1: the way they want to is Kansas City's secondary as 484 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 1: easy to explain as Daniel Soarson Sorensen wasn't up to 485 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 1: a starting job and they got him out of there 486 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 1: and they're playing better or is there more to it 487 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 1: than that? I mean, it was a little bit of 488 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 1: where's wall though. They would kind of find him early 489 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 1: and often and go at him. He does some good 490 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:26,880 Speaker 1: things for them at times, but being in coverage down 491 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,439 Speaker 1: after down is not his forte and so when they 492 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:32,159 Speaker 1: get him off the field, you have one thornhill. You 493 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 1: have tim Matthew, you have a young kid on the outside, Snea. 494 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 1: Those guys are playing. Okay, Hughes, who Jay traded for 495 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 1: for Minnesota, is someone who is vulnerable. So it's not 496 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,360 Speaker 1: just that is them also trying to pick up Spags 497 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,679 Speaker 1: complex coverages because the scheme that they played, man, they 498 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: kind of threw it at you. Because all Spags is 499 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 1: wanting is a negative play. Each drive, He's trying to 500 00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 1: get a sack, something that pushed you behind the cha 501 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 1: so they can get you off the field. It is 502 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 1: not a defense that's trying to dominate you by like 503 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:09,400 Speaker 1: completely suffocating you. It's almost like playing a Reno ball. 504 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 1: I'm just trying to get a stopper too, because we 505 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 1: feel like our offense can square in the points even 506 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 1: though they are playing better defense. The last couple of weeks. Well, 507 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:21,120 Speaker 1: we don't tend to talk about special teams a whole lot, 508 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:24,399 Speaker 1: but Fassel has kind of spiked my interest to another 509 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:26,880 Speaker 1: level when it comes to special teams. But I want 510 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:30,239 Speaker 1: to ask you about Kansas and their team. I mean, 511 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 1: are there any are they any special or is it 512 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:39,639 Speaker 1: pretty basic in what they've been doing. I mean, I 513 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:40,959 Speaker 1: mean they have a lot of speed. I mean they 514 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:42,880 Speaker 1: time you have a fast team, you have an opportunity 515 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 1: to make big plays in the kicking game and the 516 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,440 Speaker 1: return game and those things. They don't use every kiel 517 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:50,879 Speaker 1: back there anymore. Of a Miko Harman is certainly dangerous. 518 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 1: The rest of returners are dangerous. And so when you 519 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 1: have a fast team like they had, because this is 520 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 1: one of the fastest team you'll find in the league, 521 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 1: they can create big plays either by punts coming after 522 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 1: it in the return game. Yeah, so it's an issue 523 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 1: I think for the Cowboys. I don't think they need 524 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,680 Speaker 1: to be tricky this week. I think they need to 525 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: be solid. So I would probably curb and pull on 526 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,639 Speaker 1: Falsters Cotels like, you know, we might not need a 527 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 1: fake punt. We probably need to do something necessary Gambles. 528 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 1: It's mornamentals. It's just one of those things. Let's just 529 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:23,680 Speaker 1: play it straight up and see what it looks like, 530 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 1: and if we need it, we can go to it. 531 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 1: But I don't think this is one where you have 532 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,440 Speaker 1: to be over aggressive trying to manufacture points and things 533 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:31,359 Speaker 1: in the kicking in All right, Bucky, before we let 534 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 1: you break out, we want to know what the prediction 535 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,119 Speaker 1: is Who's gonna win this game? Maybe the hardest prediction 536 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 1: you've had to make all season, because these teams are 537 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:41,920 Speaker 1: both really really good. Who wins well? Now, I think 538 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 1: this is a measuring stick in the statement game. I 539 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:45,440 Speaker 1: think for the Cowboys, and the Cowboys want to be 540 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 1: considered legitimate Super Bowl contenders, you got to knock off 541 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,119 Speaker 1: a team that has been in the tournament, deep in 542 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,120 Speaker 1: the tournament. So I think this is a game where 543 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,639 Speaker 1: the Cowboys are probably more motivated because I'm sure Mike 544 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 1: McCarthy is stood in front of the room and talked 545 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 1: about it like, hey, everyone thinks that we're okay. But 546 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,440 Speaker 1: when you drop more and like you did to the Broncos, 547 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 1: but then you come and be a team, like the 548 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 1: fact that you should overmatch them and overwhelmed them, this 549 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 1: is the one where you want to get the attention. 550 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 1: So I think the Cowboys play well, but I think 551 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 1: this is a three point game. Maybe thirty twenty seven Cowboys, 552 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 1: But I think this is one where they have to 553 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 1: make a statement. Because they win this one, then the 554 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,160 Speaker 1: conversation really does start about the team being the title contended. 555 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 1: All Right, we appreciate you joining us. We're gonna take 556 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: our final break. We'll come back and we've got a 557 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:26,680 Speaker 1: few more questions. We're gonna ask these guys about the 558 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 1: Cowboys offense. Well that when come back to the Dallas 559 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 1: Cowboys dot Com Radio. 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Welcome back to the final segment 604 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 1: of the break Life from the s WBC Mortgage Studios. 605 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 1: Hey look at me like that, like Carlton. Anyway, Let's 606 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 1: let's let's finish the show off, right, Amber and Dave. 607 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 1: Let's get to some questions about this Cowboys offense. I think, 608 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 1: and actually, Nick, you brought up this question to Bucky, 609 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 1: and I could tell as he was answering the question 610 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 1: you disagree with him a thousand for talking about like 611 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 1: he was. He was more saying, Hey, I don't think 612 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 1: the Cowboys necessarily need to be as aggressive. That's at 613 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 1: least where I took from it that maybe they need 614 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 1: to kind of play it straight, and that even comes 615 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 1: down to them, you know, maybe taking a little bit 616 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 1: more time off the clock in order to keep the 617 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 1: Kansas City defense off the field. My question for you 618 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 1: guys is do you think Dallas needs to be aggressive 619 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 1: to win this kind of game going up against an 620 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 1: offense like Kansas Cities. Yeah? I don't. I don't agree 621 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 1: with what he said, and I mean we got twenty 622 00:30:58,000 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 1: two questions to him, so I'm not gonna sit there 623 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 1: and go back and forth, but I just don't agree. 624 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 1: If the end result is a touchdown, that's what I'm taking. 625 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 1: And if you have to pass the ball around the 626 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 1: yard to do that, then then I'm going to do that. 627 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 1: I think the Cowboys offense is better than the Chiefs 628 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 1: right now. They don't have as many explosive players that 629 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 1: are you've been in the Pro Bowl and all that stuff, 630 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 1: but from top to bottom, I think that they're better. 631 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 1: So if I can move the ball up and down 632 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 1: the field and score points and I'm getting touchdowns out 633 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 1: of it, I'm not going to play this running game 634 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 1: with weak links on the offensive line that can't push 635 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 1: the pile. That's not what they do, they go and 636 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 1: score points. And if they score points and put the 637 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 1: pressure on my homes, I'll take them. I'll take that 638 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 1: all day. I don't think these things have to be 639 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 1: mutually exclusive. I take issue with the idea of like 640 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 1: some super conservative game plan because you feel overmatched and 641 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 1: you've got to keep my homes off. No, stop that, 642 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 1: this isn't This isn't like a MAC team trying to 643 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 1: beat Ohio State, like just anything we can do to 644 00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 1: shorten the game and get some No, not that. But 645 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 1: the run game can be a strength for this team. 646 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 1: We've seen it, and depending on the way you want 647 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 1: to play. That's what's the phrase we say all the time. 648 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 1: Aggressively take what they give you, and you can shorten 649 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 1: the game and more importantly, keep Kansas City off the 650 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:16,479 Speaker 1: field if the run game is clicking. But you can 651 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 1: be aggressive in that way as well, Like I don't. 652 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 1: I don't think it has to be either or. Yes, 653 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 1: they should use the run game to keep Patrick Mahomes 654 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 1: off of the field. I think that's a good idea, 655 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 1: But not in this idea of like, well we don't 656 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 1: want to score too quickly, or but no, like take 657 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 1: the shots that are there for you, like we're not. 658 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 1: They shouldn't be afraid of anyone or anything, but they 659 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 1: should use their run game to their advantage. Because sorry, 660 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 1: go ahead, but I would say nothing helps the defense 661 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 1: more than a touchdown from there. Well yeah, absolutely, but ideal, like, ideally, 662 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 1: if you can run five to seven minutes off the 663 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 1: clock eight plays, run the ball a few times, and 664 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 1: score a touchdown, that is obviously a best case scenario. 665 00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 1: I've been thinking about this a lot, and granted I 666 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 1: don't watch the other teams anywhere near as much as 667 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 1: I watched the Cowboys, but I think the Cowboys are 668 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,239 Speaker 1: a little bit rare in the sense that they are 669 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 1: a contender that can pound the rock, you know, like 670 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 1: a lot of it's such a pass heavy league. The 671 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 1: Packers can do it too, I mean there are low 672 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 1: Aaron Jones now out and no know how long. Aj 673 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 1: Dyllan's pretty good, pretty good. Yeah, So there are other 674 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:23,480 Speaker 1: teams that can do it. But like Kansas City we've 675 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 1: talked about all the time, like they've struggled, Clyde Edwards 676 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 1: Hilaire hasn't really been that force on the ground that 677 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 1: they need. Lost their guy. Yeah. Yeah, so the Rams 678 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 1: like just never want to run the ball. Ever, they 679 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,719 Speaker 1: don't have cam akers, blah blah blah. So I think 680 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 1: that is a unique advantage that the Cowboys can play 681 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 1: that style of football, maybe better than any of the 682 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 1: other good teams in the NFL, right especially when it 683 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 1: gets colder. Right now, we see all these stats. The 684 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 1: stats always kind of go down when you get into 685 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 1: these games in December and January. Now, just I balk 686 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 1: at the idea that you're playing in a way where 687 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 1: you're like trying to sneak out of Arrowhead with a win. 688 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 1: Absolutely not, but you can still use the running game 689 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:09,839 Speaker 1: to your advantage. Well, it makes me wonder how effective 690 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:13,359 Speaker 1: they can really be by changing kind of what they've 691 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 1: been doing, you know, becoming a little more conservative, more 692 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 1: playing it safe type of stuff like, that's not who 693 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 1: they've been so far. We've seen that in the past. 694 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,799 Speaker 1: It has worked at times, but it has not guying 695 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 1: us the end result that we've have been seeing this year. 696 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 1: So I'm more in the aggressiveness part. Keep doing what 697 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,840 Speaker 1: you're doing, go out there, don't be scared, just play football, 698 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 1: keep having fun, and if it works out to there, 699 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 1: I mean I'm hoping it does, but I just it 700 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 1: really does. I'm like, that would that mess them up? 701 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:51,360 Speaker 1: Just kind of changing their motive. Not that that's their motive, 702 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 1: but I'm making it their motive. But you know when 703 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 1: you change things, even like and we saw it, what 704 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,880 Speaker 1: was it against Denver where they're like, well, try to 705 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 1: be clean on the field with tackles and penalties, and 706 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:09,400 Speaker 1: you know what Mike McCarthy was saying that he was 707 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 1: preaching to his defense and his team just to clean 708 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 1: up the game. And we saw how they went out 709 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,800 Speaker 1: there in Denver and how they played and how terrible 710 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,120 Speaker 1: that was. So I don't want to go back to that. 711 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 1: Just go out there and give it all you gout. 712 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 1: Does that aggressiveness extend to special teams? Obviously they like 713 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:29,560 Speaker 1: to go for it on fourth down? Day? Is this? 714 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 1: Are you saying that you're okay with them being aggressive 715 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,239 Speaker 1: in every aspect of the games? This game where they 716 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 1: should be aggressive in it. This is the player game. 717 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:40,319 Speaker 1: You're the better football team, you know they are. They're 718 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 1: the better team. There are the better team this year. 719 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:46,320 Speaker 1: They haven't played the schedule Kansas City's played. But Kansas 720 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 1: City is in their own head too a little bit. 721 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 1: And I don't if they if they got out of it, great, 722 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,799 Speaker 1: But the Cowboys, we always say, it's not a big 723 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:57,399 Speaker 1: sample size. Yeah it is. You played nine games. You're 724 00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 1: a good football team. You're really good. You're seven and two. 725 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,800 Speaker 1: Go do your thing. Your offense is better than anybody. 726 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 1: Go go if you want to go block a punt, 727 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,480 Speaker 1: and it's there to go block a punt. But in 728 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,360 Speaker 1: all fairness, what if What do we really know about 729 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,399 Speaker 1: their level of how how competitive they are against those 730 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 1: upper echelon teams in league. They've only played one and 731 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 1: that when they lost, and we gave them a lot 732 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:19,480 Speaker 1: of credit for that game because they played really well. 733 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:21,759 Speaker 1: But they haven't really played those teams. And by the way, 734 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:23,279 Speaker 1: I'm one of those people believe you got to play 735 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:24,920 Speaker 1: your schedule, and they've played their schedule. They've played it 736 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,840 Speaker 1: really well. But we really haven't seen them against that 737 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:31,759 Speaker 1: level of team yet. Right if the Cowboys beat them, 738 00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:35,239 Speaker 1: then they won't be everybody will say, yeah, they're not 739 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,840 Speaker 1: as good, right Yeah, gotuture at ESPN will sit up 740 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 1: there and say, well do they be the six and 741 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,040 Speaker 1: five team? You know, because that's that's what they are. 742 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,120 Speaker 1: I mean, there there'll be six and five. If they lose, 743 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,120 Speaker 1: the Cowboys will be seven and three if they lose. 744 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 1: This is a really really big game for Kansas City 745 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:52,400 Speaker 1: to not keep falling behind. But man, I wouldn't just 746 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be scared about him. I mean, Mahomes I 747 00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:56,759 Speaker 1: think is the best quarterback in the league. But I 748 00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,759 Speaker 1: wouldn't be scared about him because he likes I mean 749 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,279 Speaker 1: far was the best at one time too. He threw 750 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:06,960 Speaker 1: picks and touchstones. It's fine, I agree with you completely, 751 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,920 Speaker 1: but I do I think the Cowboys have been the 752 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,839 Speaker 1: better team. I don't know if they are the better 753 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,759 Speaker 1: team yet because and that it goes back to my point, 754 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:20,000 Speaker 1: like it's a long season. Tampa Bay was seven and 755 00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,360 Speaker 1: five heading into the home stretch last year, and so 756 00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,239 Speaker 1: Kansas City has all the ability in the world to 757 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,440 Speaker 1: flip this thing around and not lose another game. We 758 00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:29,239 Speaker 1: don't know that yet. So we got to be in 759 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,719 Speaker 1: the super Bowl for you to buy into this team, 760 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:35,239 Speaker 1: I said at all. No, I'm firmly bought in on 761 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,600 Speaker 1: the Cowboys. I think they're one of the four best 762 00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:41,640 Speaker 1: teams in the NFL. But this is when they typically 763 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:45,360 Speaker 1: you start. This isn't really what this isn't about the 764 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:47,600 Speaker 1: Cowboys really so much as it is about the Chiefs. 765 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,440 Speaker 1: For me, like they've been a middling team. They have 766 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,279 Speaker 1: it like it's like the Golden State Warriors, Like they 767 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,279 Speaker 1: lose four games in a row and everybody's freaking out 768 00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,280 Speaker 1: and it's like, no, we've got like three Hall of Famers, 769 00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:59,480 Speaker 1: we're gonna figure this out and we're gonna be there 770 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,200 Speaker 1: at the end. That there's just a difference. And I 771 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,080 Speaker 1: do think we don't know that about the Cowboys yet, 772 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,000 Speaker 1: Like the Cowboys haven't been through these wars where they're 773 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,799 Speaker 1: getting to the AFC Title Game every year. And that's 774 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,600 Speaker 1: what I've said going back to when they hired McCarthy. Yes, 775 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 1: you want to win the Super Bowl, but success for 776 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:19,560 Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy is being in the playoffs every year and 777 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:21,680 Speaker 1: being like, yeah, the Cowboys are gonna be there. They 778 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:23,759 Speaker 1: just that they are like the runs, like maybe not 779 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:25,440 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, but not deep run. And that's the 780 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:28,239 Speaker 1: Cowboys have been unable to sustain that for twenty five 781 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,279 Speaker 1: years of just like every year you're like, you know, 782 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,279 Speaker 1: we have a pretty good idea that they'll be there 783 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,600 Speaker 1: in the postseason. That's what the Chiefs are right now. 784 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,719 Speaker 1: And so that's what I think about. But to Nick's point, 785 00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,760 Speaker 1: play your game, and this is an analytics nerds dream. 786 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,480 Speaker 1: I remember it was like two years ago the Ravens 787 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,800 Speaker 1: set the world on fire because they went for it 788 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:48,920 Speaker 1: on fourth down against the Chiefs like six times. I 789 00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:50,920 Speaker 1: don't think they got like one of them. They did 790 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,560 Speaker 1: terrible and Harbaugh got roasted for it, and he was like, 791 00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:56,239 Speaker 1: these look who you're playing. This is how you gotta play. 792 00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,239 Speaker 1: You're not winning playing, you're not winning kicking field goals. 793 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,400 Speaker 1: You got to be aggressive, go for the throat. And 794 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,520 Speaker 1: that's what I will say. I know about the Cowboys. 795 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,200 Speaker 1: They should not alter the way they play at all. 796 00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,279 Speaker 1: They are way they play. They are aggressive. Yeah, they 797 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,560 Speaker 1: are good enough to go in there and play their 798 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:16,960 Speaker 1: style of football and win the game. Anthony Brown, where 799 00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:18,840 Speaker 1: do you think Anthony Brown's gonna do? I mean, what 800 00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:21,480 Speaker 1: do you think Anthony Brown's message which is down McCarthy's 801 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,520 Speaker 1: message because he stole it from Anthony Brown, which is great. 802 00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:28,359 Speaker 1: I mean, but like you know, we're taking everyone's best shot. 803 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:30,920 Speaker 1: Let's why why don't we should start shooting first? You know? 804 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:34,000 Speaker 1: And I think and maybe that was the reason McCarthy 805 00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:38,000 Speaker 1: took the ball. Yeah, absolutely, you know, let's go do it. 806 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,040 Speaker 1: Let's go do you know, why don't we take their 807 00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,880 Speaker 1: best shot? So that's one thing about this team, is 808 00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:47,759 Speaker 1: that a motivated, hungry, pissed off Cowboys team. I mean, 809 00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:51,200 Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I'm not sure who can beat them. 810 00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:53,080 Speaker 1: I mean, we don't. We don't know that yet either. 811 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:56,319 Speaker 1: I mean, we'll see, we'll see how it all shakes out. 812 00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,360 Speaker 1: But they shouldn't be afraid of anyone. That's not the messages. 813 00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,000 Speaker 1: There's nobody in the NFL that the Cowboys should be 814 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:03,759 Speaker 1: afraid to go up Again. I said this on a 815 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,600 Speaker 1: show I did yesterday. I can't prove the Cowboys are 816 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:08,920 Speaker 1: the best team in the league, but they have as 817 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,799 Speaker 1: good a case as anybody to be considered that right now, 818 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:13,880 Speaker 1: just based on what has happened to this point in 819 00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,000 Speaker 1: the season. And you know, I had I had another 820 00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:19,479 Speaker 1: dream last night about watching players out practicing and stuff 821 00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:22,319 Speaker 1: like that. One tells this one had Randy Gregory out 822 00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:25,000 Speaker 1: there like we had we had talked about, like already 823 00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,400 Speaker 1: back there kind of working on the course and stuff 824 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,200 Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, what do you think that means? That 825 00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:32,319 Speaker 1: means maybe after the Saints or after the Raiders game, 826 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:34,080 Speaker 1: going into the Saints game, he could be back from 827 00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,040 Speaker 1: my r That's what it means if the dream is right, 828 00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:39,120 Speaker 1: Because do you have dream about weird stuff? That's good 829 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:40,920 Speaker 1: dream though I didn't know where you were going with that, 830 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:44,160 Speaker 1: but it was good. It's really good. I think I've 831 00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,400 Speaker 1: brought that up before. It's like, that's what's exciting to 832 00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:49,080 Speaker 1: me is, Yes, this is a huge game, this is 833 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,600 Speaker 1: a big stretch. But again, it like, what are you 834 00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:55,680 Speaker 1: doing in December when the when the postseason really starts 835 00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:58,840 Speaker 1: surrounding to form? Well, the Cowboys should be getting like 836 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,400 Speaker 1: three bad as players back, and that's the type of 837 00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:04,360 Speaker 1: stuff you think about, where like, yes, this game is huge, 838 00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:06,800 Speaker 1: but the big picture for me is even more exciting 839 00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,120 Speaker 1: regardless of what happens on Sunday. But I'm glad you 840 00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:12,279 Speaker 1: brought that up too, because somebody asked me that, and 841 00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:14,879 Speaker 1: I get it. The Cowboys are rolling their seven and two. 842 00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:18,080 Speaker 1: The league looks different when the Cowboys are good all 843 00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:22,160 Speaker 1: that stuff. I guarantee you they think of themselves as 844 00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,600 Speaker 1: the team with something to prove because the Chiefs are 845 00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:27,640 Speaker 1: the standard of success in the NFL. I don't care 846 00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:29,680 Speaker 1: what their record is because they're there at the end 847 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:31,320 Speaker 1: of the year, like I was just talking about. And 848 00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:34,840 Speaker 1: so that's exciting to think that the Cowboys aren't the 849 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,040 Speaker 1: team that is getting their best shot on Sunday. They 850 00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:38,759 Speaker 1: should be the team that's trying to give their best 851 00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,120 Speaker 1: shot to You want the champs, I know they're not 852 00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:42,960 Speaker 1: actually the chances. Get my point. You want to have 853 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:45,320 Speaker 1: the best in the league. You know, Andy Reid can be, 854 00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:48,360 Speaker 1: you know, arguably could be one of the best coaches. 855 00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,239 Speaker 1: I know Belichick's up there. I mean, he is up 856 00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:53,239 Speaker 1: the areas that he's the standard. But I mean quarterback, 857 00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:55,800 Speaker 1: I mean I think people most people would say he 858 00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:59,480 Speaker 1: is the best quarterback in the league. And then tight end. Yes, 859 00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,040 Speaker 1: I don't know if he's the best receiver, but he's 860 00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:05,560 Speaker 1: damn sure the fastest, scariest. Yeah, so, you know, I mean, 861 00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:09,520 Speaker 1: they've got just elite players, elite talent, and you know 862 00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:12,080 Speaker 1: that that's what makes this thing fun. They have maybe 863 00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:15,920 Speaker 1: the best home crowd in the league. Dave is confusing 864 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,879 Speaker 1: the crap out of me. Why and not that you're 865 00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,720 Speaker 1: trying to, but let me explain why. If you're confused, 866 00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,400 Speaker 1: maybe somebody else, No, No, I think it's more of 867 00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:28,239 Speaker 1: a personal belief, and I can form my own opinions 868 00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,400 Speaker 1: based on the things that I see by myself and 869 00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:33,000 Speaker 1: hear on my own and all that. But when I 870 00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:34,520 Speaker 1: have to sit next to you and the people that 871 00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:36,759 Speaker 1: are around you, you know, they tend to influence you 872 00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:40,239 Speaker 1: a certain way. But you started the week, the week 873 00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:45,200 Speaker 1: kind of talking about Kansas City a certain way tourists like, well, 874 00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:47,520 Speaker 1: this is gonna be tough, and you know, kind of 875 00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:50,960 Speaker 1: leading tours that way more. And then the more you speak, 876 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,640 Speaker 1: the more bouncing back and forth, I feel into what 877 00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,359 Speaker 1: is creating in my mind based on everything that you're saying. 878 00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:00,120 Speaker 1: Not that you're saying anything bad, but you know what 879 00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:01,879 Speaker 1: I mean. No, I get it. They're good and bad 880 00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:04,600 Speaker 1: and it happens every week. But I just I feel 881 00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,799 Speaker 1: so one, this is gonna be a really fun game 882 00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,279 Speaker 1: to watch too. I feel like it is gonna be 883 00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:14,880 Speaker 1: all about both offenses scoring points over and over. But 884 00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:18,200 Speaker 1: I just cannot make up my mind of what I 885 00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:22,280 Speaker 1: truly feel that's gonna happen this weekend and which team 886 00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:25,439 Speaker 1: and it's better this week. That's totally okay, by the way, 887 00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,120 Speaker 1: And that's I'm with you. That's I wish. I wish 888 00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:30,120 Speaker 1: I could roll in here on Tuesday like Nick and 889 00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:32,320 Speaker 1: be like, Yeah, they're gonna crush the Falcons and just 890 00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:35,440 Speaker 1: be totally right about it by the time you bounce 891 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,439 Speaker 1: back and forth. And I mean, this is a toss 892 00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,040 Speaker 1: up game in my opinion. Like if the Cowboys were 893 00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,800 Speaker 1: at home, I'd feel much more confident, but that is 894 00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:45,040 Speaker 1: a tough place to play. And like I like, I 895 00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:49,400 Speaker 1: weigh the pedigree so heavily of what they've accomplished. I 896 00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,719 Speaker 1: know it's a different team, but it is a team 897 00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:53,600 Speaker 1: full of guys that know what it takes to get 898 00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:56,040 Speaker 1: to the super Bowl. The Cowboys don't have that right now. 899 00:43:56,480 --> 00:44:01,479 Speaker 1: But again, and so it is incredibly possible, maybe even 900 00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:04,840 Speaker 1: slightly likely, that they lose this game, but they have 901 00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,920 Speaker 1: the ability to win it, and they shouldn't. They should 902 00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,799 Speaker 1: not see themselves as underdogs. I guess if that makes sense. 903 00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:13,120 Speaker 1: All right, appreciate you guys, Jonas. We'll be back tomorrow. 904 00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:15,520 Speaker 1: We can get you guys ready for Cowboys versus Chiefs 905 00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:17,640 Speaker 1: big game. We'll tell you what's going to happen in 906 00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:20,440 Speaker 1: our opinions and give you our predictions for the game. 907 00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:23,000 Speaker 1: Till then, for Nicki, m Dave Helmont, aber Garcia. I'm 908 00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:25,600 Speaker 1: Derek Eagleton. This has been The Break live on Dallas 909 00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:31,120 Speaker 1: Cowboys dot Com Radio. This has been a production of 910 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:34,759 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.