1 00:00:04,428 --> 00:00:06,628 Speaker 1: Good Morning Football is the production of the NFL in 2 00:00:06,708 --> 00:00:26,508 Speaker 1: partnership with iHeartRadio. Probably just send us to be yesterday 3 00:00:26,508 --> 00:00:31,948 Speaker 1: with no no message. It could be a camera in there. 4 00:00:35,628 --> 00:00:38,948 Speaker 1: Welcome gonna Good Morning Football, presented by NFL all day. 5 00:00:39,068 --> 00:00:41,148 Speaker 1: We are live here in New York City. It's Wednesday, 6 00:00:41,188 --> 00:00:44,228 Speaker 1: August seventeenth. I'm Jamie Yurtall alongside Kyle Brand, Peter Schrager, 7 00:00:44,268 --> 00:00:46,628 Speaker 1: and a Super Bowl champion Jason mccordy. And that is 8 00:00:46,668 --> 00:00:50,508 Speaker 1: the happiest we have seen Aaron Rodgers this entire month 9 00:00:50,788 --> 00:00:54,348 Speaker 1: is holding a bust of Nicholas Cage. The second time 10 00:00:54,388 --> 00:00:55,868 Speaker 1: he was a happy was only he was talking and 11 00:00:55,908 --> 00:00:58,068 Speaker 1: introducing us to Romeo Dubs. But he's not so happy 12 00:00:58,108 --> 00:01:01,748 Speaker 1: about that anymore. No, all right, it's time for the lava. Hey. 13 00:01:01,828 --> 00:01:04,988 Speaker 1: The Saints and Packers are continuing their joint pact assist today. 14 00:01:04,988 --> 00:01:08,068 Speaker 1: But after yesterday's session, Aaron Rodgers spoke to the media 15 00:01:08,108 --> 00:01:11,948 Speaker 1: about how the offense and specifically his young receivers, have 16 00:01:12,068 --> 00:01:15,748 Speaker 1: looked so far in camp. You know, I didn't think 17 00:01:15,788 --> 00:01:18,388 Speaker 1: we ran the ball very well, especially outside zone. I 18 00:01:18,428 --> 00:01:20,788 Speaker 1: thought we threw it pretty good, had some opportunities, a 19 00:01:20,788 --> 00:01:22,828 Speaker 1: lot of mental there's a lot of presnat penalties, so 20 00:01:23,228 --> 00:01:25,708 Speaker 1: kind of in the fame of camp simple simple plays 21 00:01:25,708 --> 00:01:27,948 Speaker 1: were messing up the young guys. You know, they gotta 22 00:01:28,148 --> 00:01:30,788 Speaker 1: especially young receivers. We've got to be way more consistent. 23 00:01:30,868 --> 00:01:33,148 Speaker 1: You know, a lot of drops, a lot of bad 24 00:01:33,228 --> 00:01:36,428 Speaker 1: route decisions, run the wrong route. We got to get 25 00:01:36,428 --> 00:01:38,148 Speaker 1: better in that area. I had a conversation with a 26 00:01:38,188 --> 00:01:40,148 Speaker 1: couple of the young guys about the standard that we're 27 00:01:40,148 --> 00:01:42,788 Speaker 1: going to hold them too. They are rookies, but they're 28 00:01:42,908 --> 00:01:46,308 Speaker 1: NFL players and what's been on film hasn't been good 29 00:01:46,388 --> 00:01:48,988 Speaker 1: enough as of yet. So there's been some splash plays, 30 00:01:48,988 --> 00:01:52,508 Speaker 1: but there's been a lot of mistakes. Now, this is 31 00:01:52,508 --> 00:01:55,948 Speaker 1: strange in particular because of all of the love that 32 00:01:55,988 --> 00:01:58,828 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers has been bestowing upon his young wide receivers 33 00:01:58,908 --> 00:02:01,068 Speaker 1: up until yesterday. And that's why this stood out so 34 00:02:01,148 --> 00:02:02,788 Speaker 1: much to us. Now, we've still got a little bit 35 00:02:02,788 --> 00:02:05,148 Speaker 1: of time before the regular season, what do we make 36 00:02:05,188 --> 00:02:08,228 Speaker 1: of this critique that Aaron Rodgers has now delivered upon 37 00:02:08,268 --> 00:02:11,428 Speaker 1: the offense, specifically to his young wide receivers. Yesterday, I 38 00:02:11,508 --> 00:02:13,748 Speaker 1: enjoyed it. I found myself enjoying it because it was 39 00:02:13,828 --> 00:02:15,548 Speaker 1: just it was so real and was so direct and 40 00:02:15,588 --> 00:02:18,908 Speaker 1: there was zero subtlety. I like the we've seen a 41 00:02:18,908 --> 00:02:22,388 Speaker 1: lot of splash plays, but that's to me, is like 42 00:02:22,508 --> 00:02:25,588 Speaker 1: enough with the Romeo Dubs ticker tape parade. I understand 43 00:02:25,628 --> 00:02:28,308 Speaker 1: there's been some diving catches. Great, that's not what the 44 00:02:28,308 --> 00:02:30,908 Speaker 1: position is all about. I need you. I'm third and 45 00:02:31,028 --> 00:02:35,468 Speaker 1: nine here, Romeo or Amari or Christian or whatever the 46 00:02:35,508 --> 00:02:37,748 Speaker 1: hell your name is. I always am amused by Rogers 47 00:02:37,748 --> 00:02:40,828 Speaker 1: because he does this every few years, like the equivalent 48 00:02:40,828 --> 00:02:43,788 Speaker 1: of him being a master, like he's perfected the game. 49 00:02:44,228 --> 00:02:46,668 Speaker 1: It's as if you raise your children and go through 50 00:02:46,668 --> 00:02:48,668 Speaker 1: all the frustration and all the heartache and all the 51 00:02:48,748 --> 00:02:51,068 Speaker 1: late nights, and then when they're like five and you're 52 00:02:51,068 --> 00:02:53,428 Speaker 1: like I finally got it. Poof, they're gone, and new 53 00:02:53,468 --> 00:02:55,428 Speaker 1: infants come and sit sit down in front, like I 54 00:02:55,428 --> 00:02:57,708 Speaker 1: gotta start all over with these guys. I gotta go 55 00:02:57,748 --> 00:03:00,108 Speaker 1: back to diapers. Can you imagine all four of us 56 00:03:00,108 --> 00:03:02,628 Speaker 1: our parents. Can you imagine the frustration of going back 57 00:03:02,708 --> 00:03:04,908 Speaker 1: to sleep training. That's what he's doing right now. And 58 00:03:05,628 --> 00:03:07,668 Speaker 1: there was another rant he went on too where he 59 00:03:07,708 --> 00:03:09,628 Speaker 1: was and I'm serious, he was like he was talking 60 00:03:09,628 --> 00:03:11,828 Speaker 1: about Aaron Jones and aj Dillon. He's like, there's a 61 00:03:11,908 --> 00:03:13,628 Speaker 1: lot of packages we have with the two of them 62 00:03:13,668 --> 00:03:15,308 Speaker 1: out there, a lot. So if you start to look 63 00:03:15,348 --> 00:03:18,028 Speaker 1: at that, like I almost think this young receiver packers 64 00:03:18,028 --> 00:03:19,908 Speaker 1: thing is going to become kind of moot, because if 65 00:03:19,988 --> 00:03:22,428 Speaker 1: you put Dylan and Jones out there with Tanyan, there's 66 00:03:22,428 --> 00:03:25,188 Speaker 1: two receivers left, and you got Lazard and you got 67 00:03:25,188 --> 00:03:27,508 Speaker 1: maybe Sammy Watkins or Cobb. And in the end of it, like, 68 00:03:27,668 --> 00:03:29,388 Speaker 1: I don't know if we're going to the field week 69 00:03:29,428 --> 00:03:32,228 Speaker 1: one and we need a huge play from Romeo Dobbs 70 00:03:32,308 --> 00:03:34,948 Speaker 1: or Christian Watson or whoever. I think he's frustrated, but 71 00:03:34,948 --> 00:03:35,988 Speaker 1: I think in the end of it, I think it's 72 00:03:35,988 --> 00:03:38,228 Speaker 1: gonna be the old guys still leading the way. Yeah, 73 00:03:38,228 --> 00:03:40,228 Speaker 1: without a dull especially early on. And I mean, as 74 00:03:40,268 --> 00:03:43,068 Speaker 1: long as Rogers is standing up in an offensive meeting 75 00:03:43,148 --> 00:03:45,868 Speaker 1: room and going off, I'm cool. The stuff in the 76 00:03:45,988 --> 00:03:48,668 Speaker 1: media like, Okay, if I'm a young receiver is bad 77 00:03:48,788 --> 00:03:51,028 Speaker 1: enough that I maybe did have ten mental errors or 78 00:03:51,028 --> 00:03:52,868 Speaker 1: whatever the case may be. But now I got to 79 00:03:52,908 --> 00:03:55,228 Speaker 1: go in the locker room. Reporter comes up to me, Hey, 80 00:03:55,428 --> 00:03:58,348 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers said, the young receivers are struggling. Was he 81 00:03:58,428 --> 00:04:00,748 Speaker 1: talking about you? And it's just like bad enough. But 82 00:04:00,788 --> 00:04:03,108 Speaker 1: I feel like in the meeting room, we're an offensive 83 00:04:03,108 --> 00:04:07,228 Speaker 1: meeting room, the entire offense in an offensive line, running backs, receivers, 84 00:04:07,268 --> 00:04:10,108 Speaker 1: all the coaches. Aaron Rodgers stands up and delivers a 85 00:04:10,188 --> 00:04:13,148 Speaker 1: messages and calls guys out. Those guys are gonna go home, 86 00:04:13,268 --> 00:04:15,548 Speaker 1: open up that playbook, watch a little bit more film 87 00:04:15,788 --> 00:04:18,788 Speaker 1: study the routes a little bit more because it hits home. Because, 88 00:04:18,788 --> 00:04:21,348 Speaker 1: like you just said, he's a master at what he does. 89 00:04:21,388 --> 00:04:24,548 Speaker 1: So when he speaks, everybody's going to listen. The wide 90 00:04:24,548 --> 00:04:27,428 Speaker 1: receiver's position, coach is gonna be on notice when Aaron 91 00:04:27,508 --> 00:04:30,668 Speaker 1: Rodgers stands up in the meeting room and goes off. So, yes, 92 00:04:30,708 --> 00:04:32,228 Speaker 1: there's one thing to say that in the media, and 93 00:04:32,868 --> 00:04:34,668 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers has the right to do whatever the heck 94 00:04:34,668 --> 00:04:37,068 Speaker 1: he wants as well as he's played MVPs and all 95 00:04:37,068 --> 00:04:39,148 Speaker 1: of that. But I just feel like it means more 96 00:04:39,428 --> 00:04:42,028 Speaker 1: when it's in house. It's in the meeting room. He said, Hey, 97 00:04:42,068 --> 00:04:43,588 Speaker 1: I went to a field of the young receivers and 98 00:04:43,628 --> 00:04:46,148 Speaker 1: told him, hey, this is the standard that goes a 99 00:04:46,308 --> 00:04:49,188 Speaker 1: wrong way because it's direct is to your face, and 100 00:04:49,268 --> 00:04:52,148 Speaker 1: you know exactly where he stands opposed to going on 101 00:04:52,188 --> 00:04:55,028 Speaker 1: Twitter and seeing your star quarterback going a rant about 102 00:04:55,668 --> 00:04:59,868 Speaker 1: George Pickens. Looked pretty good for Fitzburgh. He runs all 103 00:04:59,868 --> 00:05:03,708 Speaker 1: the right routes. Played in a big school too of Nevada. 104 00:05:03,708 --> 00:05:06,508 Speaker 1: To state you said he was so real indirect I 105 00:05:06,588 --> 00:05:08,548 Speaker 1: felt like this was kind of calculated and it needed 106 00:05:08,548 --> 00:05:10,468 Speaker 1: a cool off period. I think he saw a lot 107 00:05:10,468 --> 00:05:13,628 Speaker 1: of Romeo Dabbs talk and fantasy talk. Is everyone's taking 108 00:05:13,708 --> 00:05:15,508 Speaker 1: Romeo Dabbs now. It was like a second wide receiver, 109 00:05:15,508 --> 00:05:17,148 Speaker 1: and he was like, for the sake of the young guy, 110 00:05:17,628 --> 00:05:20,668 Speaker 1: let me level expectations a little bit here. And I 111 00:05:20,708 --> 00:05:22,828 Speaker 1: think he's right that they probably haven't been running the 112 00:05:22,908 --> 00:05:24,628 Speaker 1: right routes. And there are been a few splash plays, 113 00:05:24,628 --> 00:05:26,588 Speaker 1: but he was the one who was throwing praise at 114 00:05:26,628 --> 00:05:28,268 Speaker 1: him early on. And it reminds me of you know, 115 00:05:28,348 --> 00:05:30,388 Speaker 1: I was in a fraternity in college. Like we build 116 00:05:30,388 --> 00:05:32,148 Speaker 1: you up, we build you down, then we build you 117 00:05:32,188 --> 00:05:34,908 Speaker 1: back up again, Like it's it's this wave of Rogers 118 00:05:35,148 --> 00:05:37,708 Speaker 1: Romeo Dabs getting paddled. Well, I don't want to go 119 00:05:37,748 --> 00:05:39,348 Speaker 1: that far. And I was not paddled. We were not 120 00:05:40,308 --> 00:05:42,068 Speaker 1: didn't do any of that stuff when I was young. 121 00:05:42,708 --> 00:05:45,468 Speaker 1: But I will say, like in the same breath where 122 00:05:45,468 --> 00:05:47,188 Speaker 1: he did that, on the back end of it, he 123 00:05:47,348 --> 00:05:50,508 Speaker 1: was like just glowing with praise about the veteran guys, 124 00:05:50,588 --> 00:05:52,308 Speaker 1: and I think it's all comes in fact. Listen to 125 00:05:52,308 --> 00:05:53,708 Speaker 1: what he said. Also, I got to quote here, we 126 00:05:53,708 --> 00:05:56,028 Speaker 1: didn't have to sound. I feel like a couple will 127 00:05:56,068 --> 00:05:58,628 Speaker 1: have exceptional seasons. I feel like thirteen is gonna be 128 00:05:58,668 --> 00:06:00,828 Speaker 1: one of them. Obviously, I could play with Cobby in 129 00:06:00,868 --> 00:06:03,228 Speaker 1: my sleep, and when he's healthy, he's a premier slot 130 00:06:03,228 --> 00:06:05,948 Speaker 1: receiver in the league. Sammy Watkins, I thought at his 131 00:06:05,988 --> 00:06:08,508 Speaker 1: best practice he was making please, he's okay, there's the 132 00:06:08,548 --> 00:06:10,548 Speaker 1: three guys, who are you made men for the most part, 133 00:06:10,588 --> 00:06:12,868 Speaker 1: and was artist still young, but he's expected to take 134 00:06:12,908 --> 00:06:15,348 Speaker 1: that leap. I remember Rogers doing this for Marquees Valdes 135 00:06:15,428 --> 00:06:17,028 Speaker 1: Scantling a couple of years ago, saying, you know, he 136 00:06:17,668 --> 00:06:20,308 Speaker 1: makes a smash play, but he's not being consistent, and 137 00:06:20,388 --> 00:06:22,668 Speaker 1: that lit a fire under Valdes Scantling. I think the 138 00:06:22,788 --> 00:06:25,268 Speaker 1: Dobb's hysteria had to calm down a little bit. I 139 00:06:25,268 --> 00:06:27,348 Speaker 1: think Rodgers knew that, and I think for everyone's sake, 140 00:06:27,468 --> 00:06:29,748 Speaker 1: Green Bay locker room included. It is to let them, 141 00:06:29,828 --> 00:06:31,348 Speaker 1: let the public know that maybe it's not gonna all 142 00:06:31,348 --> 00:06:33,348 Speaker 1: happen all at once for these young rookies. Listen, I 143 00:06:33,388 --> 00:06:34,908 Speaker 1: like coming to work every day and hanging out with 144 00:06:34,948 --> 00:06:37,788 Speaker 1: you guys, because we're equals. We have things in common 145 00:06:37,828 --> 00:06:39,828 Speaker 1: with each other. Like you said, we're all parents. The 146 00:06:39,868 --> 00:06:42,828 Speaker 1: average age of the wide Receiver room in Green Bay 147 00:06:43,028 --> 00:06:46,228 Speaker 1: is twenty five and a half years old. Aaron Rodgers 148 00:06:46,348 --> 00:06:48,708 Speaker 1: is thirty eight years old. I just came off of 149 00:06:48,708 --> 00:06:51,108 Speaker 1: the SEC. I was hanging out with guys thirteen years 150 00:06:51,148 --> 00:06:52,628 Speaker 1: enger than me too, trying to talk to them on 151 00:06:52,628 --> 00:06:55,468 Speaker 1: the phone, trying to get stories from trying to relate 152 00:06:55,468 --> 00:06:59,908 Speaker 1: to them. It's hard. No matter how cool, hip, whatever 153 00:07:00,068 --> 00:07:01,668 Speaker 1: you want to be, how hard you are, it is 154 00:07:01,708 --> 00:07:03,628 Speaker 1: hard to relate to guys that are not much ogger 155 00:07:03,628 --> 00:07:05,308 Speaker 1: than you. Go to work with him every day and 156 00:07:05,348 --> 00:07:08,748 Speaker 1: try to demand something from them that you yourself already 157 00:07:08,748 --> 00:07:11,628 Speaker 1: have that expectation set. The three guys, if you look 158 00:07:11,628 --> 00:07:14,148 Speaker 1: at those ages that he mentioned in Peter's quote, are 159 00:07:14,148 --> 00:07:17,228 Speaker 1: the three oldest guys on that screen. Cobb is thirty one, 160 00:07:17,228 --> 00:07:20,148 Speaker 1: Sammy Watkins is twenty nine. Alan's artist twenty six. I 161 00:07:20,148 --> 00:07:23,388 Speaker 1: think there's a direct correlation there between the age and 162 00:07:23,468 --> 00:07:26,188 Speaker 1: maturity of the player and the expectation that Rogers has 163 00:07:26,228 --> 00:07:28,708 Speaker 1: for the wide receiver and those young guys. Remember it 164 00:07:28,708 --> 00:07:32,108 Speaker 1: took Jordy Nelson four seasons to become a thousand yard receiver. 165 00:07:32,268 --> 00:07:34,748 Speaker 1: It was three years before Davanta Adams even had a 166 00:07:34,748 --> 00:07:38,308 Speaker 1: five hundred yard receiving year. So he did exactly what 167 00:07:38,628 --> 00:07:40,988 Speaker 1: he wanted us to do, which was he threw Romeo 168 00:07:41,068 --> 00:07:43,068 Speaker 1: Dabbs out there, and we just ate it up because 169 00:07:43,068 --> 00:07:44,668 Speaker 1: we were like, this has never happened. Why is he 170 00:07:44,708 --> 00:07:46,388 Speaker 1: talking about this guy? We talked about him for a 171 00:07:46,428 --> 00:07:49,068 Speaker 1: week and then now he's zigging and zagging back to 172 00:07:49,188 --> 00:07:51,308 Speaker 1: who he wants to throw too, which is those three 173 00:07:51,428 --> 00:07:53,628 Speaker 1: veteran guys. Yeah, and I think Kyle had it. He 174 00:07:53,668 --> 00:07:55,948 Speaker 1: also had talked about Aaron Jones and aj Dyllan and 175 00:07:55,948 --> 00:07:58,348 Speaker 1: the expectation for them. The offense could look much different 176 00:07:58,388 --> 00:08:00,308 Speaker 1: without Davanta Adams and it might be a lot of 177 00:08:00,308 --> 00:08:02,188 Speaker 1: the running backs out of the backfield. And Dylan can 178 00:08:02,228 --> 00:08:03,388 Speaker 1: catch the ball. You think of him as like this 179 00:08:03,468 --> 00:08:06,108 Speaker 1: bulldozer does calves, but he can catch the ball, so 180 00:08:06,428 --> 00:08:09,788 Speaker 1: they might not need Dabbs or Watson to go for five. Yeah, 181 00:08:09,788 --> 00:08:11,748 Speaker 1: few guys on the field. Tanyan's out there, you're two 182 00:08:11,828 --> 00:08:14,108 Speaker 1: running backs, it's two receivers. Even if one running back 183 00:08:14,108 --> 00:08:16,708 Speaker 1: comes off, there's still just three. They're not going five deep. 184 00:08:16,868 --> 00:08:17,988 Speaker 1: I think this is going to be a team that 185 00:08:18,068 --> 00:08:20,108 Speaker 1: runs the ball and plays defense. I really do. But 186 00:08:20,268 --> 00:08:22,068 Speaker 1: bringing it back to the Rogers thing, it's like you 187 00:08:22,068 --> 00:08:24,228 Speaker 1: you as a wide receiver, you're looked at is like, well, 188 00:08:24,228 --> 00:08:26,148 Speaker 1: you are lucky you got to play with Rogers like 189 00:08:26,148 --> 00:08:28,948 Speaker 1: that major hooker. This is what comes with playing with Rogers. 190 00:08:28,948 --> 00:08:30,628 Speaker 1: Like Rodgers is not just always going to be your 191 00:08:30,668 --> 00:08:32,628 Speaker 1: best friend. He never has been. For sure. The MBS 192 00:08:32,708 --> 00:08:35,148 Speaker 1: thing is perfect. He had a very complicated relationship with 193 00:08:35,188 --> 00:08:37,348 Speaker 1: Mark Uisveld Scantlin where I don't think he was his 194 00:08:37,388 --> 00:08:39,468 Speaker 1: favorite guy, but he's like I need him and he's 195 00:08:39,508 --> 00:08:42,668 Speaker 1: talented and somebody in depth chart be damn. There's gonna 196 00:08:42,668 --> 00:08:44,068 Speaker 1: be a game where one of these guys has to 197 00:08:44,108 --> 00:08:45,708 Speaker 1: make a play on third and twelve and go up 198 00:08:45,708 --> 00:08:47,468 Speaker 1: and get it, and Rogers is gonna put it right 199 00:08:47,548 --> 00:08:49,108 Speaker 1: where it needs to be and he's like trying to 200 00:08:49,148 --> 00:08:51,348 Speaker 1: get there. Now, you have to be that guy, and 201 00:08:51,508 --> 00:08:53,108 Speaker 1: I like that he did this. Now it's cool. Let's 202 00:08:53,108 --> 00:08:55,108 Speaker 1: just let's just remember that Tom Brady's not saying this 203 00:08:55,108 --> 00:08:57,348 Speaker 1: about Julio Jones when he got there, Like the two 204 00:08:57,388 --> 00:09:02,588 Speaker 1: of them could just operate perfectly, probably after one practice together. So, guys, 205 00:09:02,628 --> 00:09:04,468 Speaker 1: what do you get when you put James Bond on 206 00:09:04,508 --> 00:09:08,708 Speaker 1: bubble be Bubbalo seven, Bubbalo seven. Did you watch the 207 00:09:08,748 --> 00:09:11,308 Speaker 1: episode last night? Man, he was on fire as a 208 00:09:11,348 --> 00:09:13,788 Speaker 1: good joke. Hard Knox continued last night with the theme 209 00:09:13,868 --> 00:09:17,188 Speaker 1: Detroit versus Everybody, And there's a rookie linebacker who embodies 210 00:09:17,228 --> 00:09:20,708 Speaker 1: that idea. His name is Malcolm Rodriguez. Indeed it is Rodriguez, 211 00:09:21,028 --> 00:09:23,268 Speaker 1: but you can call him Roderigo. Here's a look at 212 00:09:23,348 --> 00:09:27,908 Speaker 1: number forty four. Forty four is all over fifty forty 213 00:09:27,908 --> 00:09:31,188 Speaker 1: four right now, fifty forty four. Kid at a different 214 00:09:31,268 --> 00:09:40,868 Speaker 1: level right now? Yep, oh yeah, I forty four, I 215 00:09:41,028 --> 00:09:45,828 Speaker 1: for you, forty four thanky doing there you go? I 216 00:09:45,988 --> 00:09:48,508 Speaker 1: got your rookie. Didn't know how to give the kid. 217 00:09:48,548 --> 00:09:53,428 Speaker 1: Come there, you've gone, malcome the job. Sorry, you can 218 00:09:53,468 --> 00:09:56,428 Speaker 1: continue right now. You should give you whatever you're going out. 219 00:09:57,348 --> 00:09:59,788 Speaker 1: Everything's open for you right now. You got man, You 220 00:09:59,828 --> 00:10:04,308 Speaker 1: just gotta go take it and do it. Days He's 221 00:10:04,428 --> 00:10:06,508 Speaker 1: think of saying it is about a rookie. What do 222 00:10:06,588 --> 00:10:08,908 Speaker 1: y'all when we to put them out there first, because 223 00:10:08,908 --> 00:10:11,428 Speaker 1: that's what's about to happen. He say nothing against you, 224 00:10:11,548 --> 00:10:14,188 Speaker 1: rod three days better, thank you for playing your ass, dude. 225 00:10:14,268 --> 00:10:17,068 Speaker 1: But it's a rookie who I'm doing everything I care 226 00:10:17,188 --> 00:10:21,468 Speaker 1: not to put out here first. That is unbelievable motivation. 227 00:10:21,748 --> 00:10:24,548 Speaker 1: You can stream episode two on HBO Max right now, 228 00:10:24,668 --> 00:10:27,028 Speaker 1: and new episodes of Hard Knocks drop every Tuesday at 229 00:10:27,068 --> 00:10:29,028 Speaker 1: ten pm Eastern. We look forward to it every week. 230 00:10:29,068 --> 00:10:31,148 Speaker 1: This is the season so far, two episodes in hasn't 231 00:10:31,108 --> 00:10:34,308 Speaker 1: been unbelievable. It is impossible to not love Detroit right now. 232 00:10:34,548 --> 00:10:36,868 Speaker 1: And that's coming from somebody who's from Minnesota. It doesn't 233 00:10:36,868 --> 00:10:39,068 Speaker 1: even hurt that bad to say it. But these Lions 234 00:10:39,108 --> 00:10:41,268 Speaker 1: are becoming lovable. But how do they go from the 235 00:10:41,268 --> 00:10:43,988 Speaker 1: lovable Lions to becoming a big team with big characters 236 00:10:44,268 --> 00:10:46,948 Speaker 1: to someone with no expectations, I mean, contenders in the 237 00:10:47,028 --> 00:10:48,908 Speaker 1: NFC North. How do they do it? You saw in 238 00:10:48,988 --> 00:10:53,788 Speaker 1: that video Rodrigo going downhill making somebody into a bobble head. 239 00:10:53,988 --> 00:10:55,908 Speaker 1: That's what the Lions have to do it. They're gonna 240 00:10:55,948 --> 00:10:57,668 Speaker 1: have to punch people in the mouth because no one's 241 00:10:57,708 --> 00:11:00,268 Speaker 1: gonna respect him as a team that can actually make 242 00:11:00,308 --> 00:11:03,668 Speaker 1: some noise. If anybody miss this, it's Malcolm Rodriguez. He's 243 00:11:03,668 --> 00:11:06,748 Speaker 1: a sixth pick from Oklahoma State and he was the 244 00:11:06,788 --> 00:11:09,348 Speaker 1: sensation of the episode. Sensation. That's all they talked about 245 00:11:09,348 --> 00:11:12,068 Speaker 1: the entire episode. For Aaron Glynn also talked about for 246 00:11:12,108 --> 00:11:16,148 Speaker 1: them the expectation to win, building a winning culture on 247 00:11:16,148 --> 00:11:19,468 Speaker 1: what that looks like going to the game every Sunday, 248 00:11:19,508 --> 00:11:22,908 Speaker 1: You strap your cleats on, put your helmet off. You know, 249 00:11:23,308 --> 00:11:25,228 Speaker 1: at the end of this day, we're gonna have the 250 00:11:25,308 --> 00:11:27,468 Speaker 1: most points on that score board and we're gonna win 251 00:11:27,508 --> 00:11:30,708 Speaker 1: the game. It takes time to building that type of 252 00:11:30,748 --> 00:11:32,708 Speaker 1: winning culture what they're trying to do there. You have 253 00:11:32,788 --> 00:11:35,908 Speaker 1: experienced that, particularly in your career. You were on teams 254 00:11:35,948 --> 00:11:37,748 Speaker 1: that you woke up on Sundays and you thought this 255 00:11:37,788 --> 00:11:39,428 Speaker 1: was going to be an absolute battle, and then you 256 00:11:39,428 --> 00:11:41,268 Speaker 1: were on a team that won a Super Bowl. Were 257 00:11:41,308 --> 00:11:43,388 Speaker 1: the days really different on game days when you woke 258 00:11:43,468 --> 00:11:44,988 Speaker 1: up and you just knew the outcome was going to 259 00:11:45,068 --> 00:11:47,308 Speaker 1: be set? It was different every single day of the 260 00:11:47,308 --> 00:11:49,468 Speaker 1: week because you're coming in and you're just like, well, 261 00:11:49,468 --> 00:11:51,588 Speaker 1: why are we making that move? Why are we doing that? 262 00:11:51,588 --> 00:11:54,108 Speaker 1: That doesn't really make sense. And I think the expectation 263 00:11:54,188 --> 00:11:56,228 Speaker 1: is different because when I got to New England, weren't 264 00:11:56,268 --> 00:11:57,788 Speaker 1: talking about we got to find a way to win 265 00:11:57,828 --> 00:11:59,748 Speaker 1: the division. It was just like, sure, this is what 266 00:11:59,788 --> 00:12:01,428 Speaker 1: we do. We're gonna win the super Bowl. We're not 267 00:12:01,428 --> 00:12:03,988 Speaker 1: even talking about the division. Line that's gonna come along 268 00:12:04,028 --> 00:12:06,188 Speaker 1: a way. It was winning the super Bowl. So that 269 00:12:06,308 --> 00:12:09,348 Speaker 1: expectation changes and you have to have results in order 270 00:12:09,388 --> 00:12:11,788 Speaker 1: to develop that. It was also the logo in the 271 00:12:11,788 --> 00:12:15,428 Speaker 1: city the Colors. They haven't won since fifty seven, they've 272 00:12:15,428 --> 00:12:17,148 Speaker 1: never been to a super Bowl, like this is a 273 00:12:17,348 --> 00:12:20,748 Speaker 1: downtrodden franchise. And yet that turn kind of happened at 274 00:12:20,748 --> 00:12:22,428 Speaker 1: the end of the last year. They were winning games 275 00:12:22,428 --> 00:12:24,628 Speaker 1: at the end of the season, and they fought teams tough, 276 00:12:24,668 --> 00:12:27,348 Speaker 1: they just couldn't close the deal. They're right there, so 277 00:12:27,468 --> 00:12:29,388 Speaker 1: you say, okay, they were the number two pick in 278 00:12:29,388 --> 00:12:31,108 Speaker 1: the draft, but you give me three or four though. 279 00:12:31,148 --> 00:12:34,028 Speaker 1: Suddenly we're talking about a potential wildcard team, and you'd 280 00:12:34,028 --> 00:12:36,548 Speaker 1: like to think another year under Dan Campbell, another year 281 00:12:36,628 --> 00:12:38,708 Speaker 1: under this you know staff of all these ex players 282 00:12:38,708 --> 00:12:42,028 Speaker 1: and freak things like this won't happened week three. I mean, 283 00:12:42,188 --> 00:12:44,948 Speaker 1: they have them dead and buried, and then Lamar has 284 00:12:44,948 --> 00:12:47,908 Speaker 1: one completion to Sammy Watkins and then Justin Tucker hits 285 00:12:47,908 --> 00:12:51,068 Speaker 1: them from eighty eight the crossbar. So it's insane. This 286 00:12:51,148 --> 00:12:53,228 Speaker 1: is the way that the Lions lost last year. It's 287 00:12:53,228 --> 00:12:55,988 Speaker 1: the way the Lions lose always, and it's got to change. 288 00:12:56,028 --> 00:12:58,228 Speaker 1: And you've got to be able to finally put teams away. 289 00:12:58,268 --> 00:13:02,068 Speaker 1: So when you lose five games by two points, all right, 290 00:13:02,148 --> 00:13:04,748 Speaker 1: let's win three games by two points and lose maybe 291 00:13:04,748 --> 00:13:06,548 Speaker 1: one game by two points. This year. I don't think 292 00:13:06,588 --> 00:13:07,948 Speaker 1: the Lions went in the Super Bowl this year. I 293 00:13:07,948 --> 00:13:09,588 Speaker 1: don't know if they're making the playoffs, but for them 294 00:13:09,588 --> 00:13:11,268 Speaker 1: to be more than just this feel good story, like 295 00:13:11,308 --> 00:13:12,948 Speaker 1: you got to close the deal. At the end of 296 00:13:12,988 --> 00:13:14,228 Speaker 1: they were starting to do that the end of the season. 297 00:13:14,228 --> 00:13:15,788 Speaker 1: I think Garon glend did a smart thing. He had 298 00:13:15,988 --> 00:13:17,668 Speaker 1: talked to the team and he started pointing out guys 299 00:13:17,668 --> 00:13:19,588 Speaker 1: in college who had been in national championship games, and 300 00:13:19,588 --> 00:13:21,468 Speaker 1: they won thirteen games in twelve games, Like I'm gonna 301 00:13:21,468 --> 00:13:22,908 Speaker 1: get back to that. I don't know how it's going 302 00:13:22,948 --> 00:13:25,348 Speaker 1: for you guys. How's your level of Hard Knocks seduction? 303 00:13:25,388 --> 00:13:27,348 Speaker 1: Because mine is high. What I mean by that is 304 00:13:27,548 --> 00:13:29,708 Speaker 1: every year I fall in love with the Hard Knocks team. 305 00:13:29,748 --> 00:13:32,108 Speaker 1: They're gonna win the Super Bowl, and we watched this game, 306 00:13:32,188 --> 00:13:34,628 Speaker 1: all right, i'man roth Saint brown is going to have 307 00:13:34,708 --> 00:13:37,348 Speaker 1: eighteen hundred yards. Rodrigo's gonna be a defensive rookie the 308 00:13:37,428 --> 00:13:39,428 Speaker 1: year Jared Golf's gonna be the VP. I fall in 309 00:13:39,468 --> 00:13:41,788 Speaker 1: love with the team because there's slow motions and music. 310 00:13:42,108 --> 00:13:44,588 Speaker 1: But let's look at the history, because it doesn't always 311 00:13:44,588 --> 00:13:47,308 Speaker 1: work out. Last year's Cowboys is pretty standard Cowboys season 312 00:13:47,828 --> 00:13:50,348 Speaker 1: that Rams ten and six, and the last year of Golf, 313 00:13:50,748 --> 00:13:55,428 Speaker 1: no Chargers, Raiders Browns. That was Baker Mayfield's rookie year, 314 00:13:55,428 --> 00:13:57,788 Speaker 1: and that seemed like that was a Jamis Winston Buccaneers 315 00:13:57,788 --> 00:14:00,308 Speaker 1: team win five and eleven the first time with Jeff 316 00:14:00,348 --> 00:14:02,948 Speaker 1: Fisher Rams. I thought that team had something. They're gonna 317 00:14:02,988 --> 00:14:05,908 Speaker 1: run Todd Gurley and No. Four and twelve, William Hayes 318 00:14:05,908 --> 00:14:09,668 Speaker 1: went to the Dinosaur Park. Oh yeah. And then that 319 00:14:09,708 --> 00:14:12,468 Speaker 1: was the JJ Watt Texans team that was nine and seven. Actually, 320 00:14:12,588 --> 00:14:15,668 Speaker 1: it usually doesn't work out great, but right now, oh man, 321 00:14:16,348 --> 00:14:18,868 Speaker 1: unless all the dreams come true, I still think they're 322 00:14:18,868 --> 00:14:20,988 Speaker 1: gonna need more. I just I'm kind of with you, Peter, 323 00:14:21,108 --> 00:14:23,468 Speaker 1: like it's not fair, But I look at those blue uniforms, 324 00:14:23,508 --> 00:14:25,628 Speaker 1: and I'm like, it's just they need a rebrand. They 325 00:14:25,668 --> 00:14:27,868 Speaker 1: need like a whole renaissance, because it's just, what did 326 00:14:27,908 --> 00:14:31,748 Speaker 1: you say? Nineteen fifty seven was the insane? So the 327 00:14:31,828 --> 00:14:33,588 Speaker 1: xs and os of this answer are just the fact 328 00:14:33,628 --> 00:14:35,748 Speaker 1: that Peter's point they have to finish games. They got 329 00:14:35,748 --> 00:14:37,668 Speaker 1: to sweep the Bears, they got split with the Vikings 330 00:14:37,668 --> 00:14:39,388 Speaker 1: and the Packers at least, and I think those are 331 00:14:39,388 --> 00:14:41,508 Speaker 1: all things that can be accomplished. But I feel like 332 00:14:41,548 --> 00:14:45,068 Speaker 1: I need their quarterback. No, I need their quarterback to 333 00:14:45,108 --> 00:14:47,348 Speaker 1: be the main character of this show. I think I'm 334 00:14:47,348 --> 00:14:50,148 Speaker 1: counting like a hundred words that I've heard from Churdcoff 335 00:14:50,348 --> 00:14:52,468 Speaker 1: in these episodes. And I understand that this is the 336 00:14:52,508 --> 00:14:55,588 Speaker 1: magic of television and this is editing, but he is 337 00:14:55,668 --> 00:14:58,788 Speaker 1: not producing a compelling story for the Hard Knocks producers 338 00:14:58,788 --> 00:15:01,068 Speaker 1: to put him on the episode time and time again. 339 00:15:01,308 --> 00:15:04,108 Speaker 1: What is happening? He looked great in that two minutes drill. 340 00:15:04,468 --> 00:15:07,188 Speaker 1: He's out there supporting his backup quarterback when times were tough. 341 00:15:07,788 --> 00:15:10,908 Speaker 1: Respect it, appreciate it, But Jared goff I really want 342 00:15:10,908 --> 00:15:12,668 Speaker 1: you to turn a corner here. This is what the 343 00:15:12,708 --> 00:15:14,428 Speaker 1: team needs in order for you to be able to 344 00:15:14,428 --> 00:15:17,388 Speaker 1: close games in the division, to have a respectable season 345 00:15:17,708 --> 00:15:19,708 Speaker 1: that we all say hang our hats on, and you 346 00:15:19,788 --> 00:15:22,308 Speaker 1: break the trend of Hard Knocks teams that have the 347 00:15:22,348 --> 00:15:24,508 Speaker 1: season after we all fall in love with them. Jared 348 00:15:24,508 --> 00:15:26,468 Speaker 1: Goffier is going to be the difference. And I just 349 00:15:26,588 --> 00:15:28,788 Speaker 1: I'm waiting at this the second episode, I'm like, Oh, 350 00:15:28,788 --> 00:15:30,788 Speaker 1: there is what's he gonna say? Oh? Shoot, okay, that 351 00:15:30,828 --> 00:15:32,428 Speaker 1: wasn't it? Well there is again, what's he gonna say? 352 00:15:32,628 --> 00:15:35,308 Speaker 1: Were watching film preparing? All right, Jamie, we've got thirty 353 00:15:35,308 --> 00:15:37,988 Speaker 1: two quarterbacks on a list here for fantasy football. Yeah, 354 00:15:38,028 --> 00:15:39,748 Speaker 1: she's a guess where do you think Jared goff is? 355 00:15:39,828 --> 00:15:42,908 Speaker 1: Well the bottom half? Yeah, bottom half twenty six at 356 00:15:42,908 --> 00:15:45,068 Speaker 1: a thirty two and should light a fire under him. 357 00:15:45,108 --> 00:15:47,388 Speaker 1: Right there we go? He said, this is Goff's third 358 00:15:47,428 --> 00:16:04,788 Speaker 1: Hard Knocks season. Why you're gonna talk about them? The 359 00:16:04,788 --> 00:16:07,508 Speaker 1: forty nine ers and the Vikings. They're holding Joy practices 360 00:16:07,548 --> 00:16:10,988 Speaker 1: today and tomorrow in Egan, Minnesota, ahead of their preseason 361 00:16:11,028 --> 00:16:13,668 Speaker 1: matchup on Saturday Night. These two teams are both pretty 362 00:16:13,748 --> 00:16:18,108 Speaker 1: legit contenders in the NFC, but their quarterbacks are quite 363 00:16:18,308 --> 00:16:21,628 Speaker 1: different in terms of experience. Trey Lance is entering his 364 00:16:21,668 --> 00:16:25,028 Speaker 1: first season as an NFL starter. It'll be season eleven 365 00:16:25,108 --> 00:16:27,828 Speaker 1: for Kirk Cousins with a couple of Pro Bowls under 366 00:16:27,908 --> 00:16:30,668 Speaker 1: his belt. Despite how they got here, though, they're both 367 00:16:30,988 --> 00:16:34,148 Speaker 1: pretty pivotal players for their teams going into the season, 368 00:16:34,308 --> 00:16:37,788 Speaker 1: and they both have a fascination capability heading into the 369 00:16:37,828 --> 00:16:41,628 Speaker 1: season and how they could mold their legacy in their 370 00:16:41,628 --> 00:16:43,788 Speaker 1: career and with their teams and moving forward. So which 371 00:16:43,788 --> 00:16:46,628 Speaker 1: one of these quarterbacks has a more fascinating season ahead 372 00:16:46,628 --> 00:16:51,428 Speaker 1: of them, Trey or Kirk. Fascinating, fascinating, extremely interesting. So 373 00:16:51,468 --> 00:16:55,468 Speaker 1: all am my extremely interested and gone Trey Lance. I mean, 374 00:16:55,508 --> 00:16:59,268 Speaker 1: his ability to make plays all over the field is 375 00:16:59,268 --> 00:17:01,468 Speaker 1: what I want to see. This guy has the ability. 376 00:17:01,788 --> 00:17:03,388 Speaker 1: You know, you don't draw this up. And I think 377 00:17:03,468 --> 00:17:07,348 Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan, one of the best offensive minds in the NFL, 378 00:17:07,828 --> 00:17:10,068 Speaker 1: has been able to design things, but he hasn't had 379 00:17:10,148 --> 00:17:13,188 Speaker 1: a quarterback like Trey Lance with the ability to just 380 00:17:13,508 --> 00:17:16,988 Speaker 1: jump around the pocket, take off and pick up ten twelve, 381 00:17:17,108 --> 00:17:20,108 Speaker 1: fifteen yards of first down to move the chains. We 382 00:17:20,148 --> 00:17:23,108 Speaker 1: saw this guy make some incredible throws in the preseason. 383 00:17:23,348 --> 00:17:26,828 Speaker 1: We're seeing them scramble here last season. You cannot plan 384 00:17:26,948 --> 00:17:29,828 Speaker 1: for these things. So defensive coordinators now as they're getting 385 00:17:29,828 --> 00:17:32,908 Speaker 1: ready for Kyle Shanahan, there's the unknown that you have 386 00:17:32,988 --> 00:17:34,948 Speaker 1: to prepare for when it comes to Trey Lance. You 387 00:17:34,948 --> 00:17:37,788 Speaker 1: didn't have that with Jimmy g Kyle Shannon's best quarterback 388 00:17:37,868 --> 00:17:41,228 Speaker 1: was probably Matt Ryan. Extremely good, talented quarterback, but a 389 00:17:41,308 --> 00:17:43,788 Speaker 1: pocket passer. Look at us throw outside the pocket on 390 00:17:43,868 --> 00:17:46,388 Speaker 1: the money to Deebo Samuel in the rope. These are 391 00:17:46,388 --> 00:17:50,228 Speaker 1: the type of plays that are fascinating. These are fascinating plays. 392 00:17:50,268 --> 00:17:52,068 Speaker 1: This is what I want to see from Trey Lance 393 00:17:52,268 --> 00:17:54,748 Speaker 1: this upcoming season. This is what I expect to see 394 00:17:54,908 --> 00:17:57,148 Speaker 1: from him and this forty nine ers driving from the 395 00:17:57,148 --> 00:17:59,908 Speaker 1: crusted question. They're fascinating, fascinating, and it's like he was 396 00:17:59,948 --> 00:18:02,988 Speaker 1: just being thrown out there too. That's with one game 397 00:18:03,028 --> 00:18:05,068 Speaker 1: played in North Dakota State the FREEVI year because of 398 00:18:05,108 --> 00:18:07,548 Speaker 1: the COVID shortened season and because of other issues he 399 00:18:07,588 --> 00:18:10,188 Speaker 1: has had with you know, the experience at the Minnesota 400 00:18:10,268 --> 00:18:12,428 Speaker 1: level and going obviously at the North Dakota State. I'm 401 00:18:12,468 --> 00:18:15,708 Speaker 1: also going Trey Lance. And what fascinates me is that 402 00:18:15,748 --> 00:18:18,628 Speaker 1: they chose this, that they traded up all the picks, 403 00:18:18,628 --> 00:18:21,108 Speaker 1: but that they chose Trey Lance over Jimmy Garoppolo. And 404 00:18:21,188 --> 00:18:24,948 Speaker 1: we might have rose colored glasses on Jimmy Garoppolo's playoff 405 00:18:24,948 --> 00:18:27,628 Speaker 1: front last year. Let's go back to those games. Let's 406 00:18:27,668 --> 00:18:31,068 Speaker 1: go back to those amazing victories in Dallas and Green Bay. 407 00:18:31,468 --> 00:18:34,788 Speaker 1: Jimmy was a walking heart attack in some of these 408 00:18:34,828 --> 00:18:37,428 Speaker 1: games with the passes, just so many times where he 409 00:18:37,428 --> 00:18:39,548 Speaker 1: would throw the ball and it should have been no, 410 00:18:40,108 --> 00:18:43,348 Speaker 1: and it wasn't picked, or it was picked. I don't 411 00:18:43,348 --> 00:18:45,548 Speaker 1: think Jimmy had his best days in those games. There 412 00:18:45,548 --> 00:18:48,348 Speaker 1: were about four or five of them in those two games. 413 00:18:48,388 --> 00:18:51,028 Speaker 1: Then against the Rams, like the slipper like finally didn't 414 00:18:51,068 --> 00:18:53,788 Speaker 1: fit anymore, and you know, the carriage became a pumpkin. 415 00:18:53,828 --> 00:18:56,548 Speaker 1: What's the reference? I don't even know that was felt right. 416 00:18:56,588 --> 00:18:59,228 Speaker 1: So now you think, okay, if Trey can knew some 417 00:18:59,308 --> 00:19:01,428 Speaker 1: of the stuff that you did, and he doesn't make 418 00:19:01,428 --> 00:19:03,948 Speaker 1: the mental errors that Jimmy was prone to doing down 419 00:19:03,988 --> 00:19:06,268 Speaker 1: the stray there and got away with in many cases, 420 00:19:06,388 --> 00:19:08,788 Speaker 1: are the Niners the best team in the NFC and 421 00:19:08,828 --> 00:19:10,868 Speaker 1: suddenly start thinking that way because the NFC is so 422 00:19:10,868 --> 00:19:13,228 Speaker 1: wide open position for position. I think the forty nine 423 00:19:13,268 --> 00:19:15,028 Speaker 1: ers are as good as anybody quarterbacks the big question 424 00:19:15,068 --> 00:19:17,388 Speaker 1: that so makes them so fascinating. I think he's unbelievably 425 00:19:17,428 --> 00:19:19,588 Speaker 1: fascinating too. And I find this fascinating too. Of the 426 00:19:19,668 --> 00:19:21,788 Speaker 1: last seven years, seven seasons a long time. You know 427 00:19:21,788 --> 00:19:24,068 Speaker 1: who has the most forty plus yard touchdown passes in 428 00:19:24,068 --> 00:19:27,308 Speaker 1: the entire NFL. Kirk Cousins, snap Patrick Mahomes, not Aaron Rodgers, 429 00:19:27,308 --> 00:19:29,388 Speaker 1: Tom brad is Kirk Cousins. And it's not closed. What's 430 00:19:29,428 --> 00:19:31,908 Speaker 1: these you're gonna be like? For Cousins? Could this be 431 00:19:32,668 --> 00:19:34,748 Speaker 1: like a really special year in the sense that we 432 00:19:34,788 --> 00:19:36,628 Speaker 1: got a new head coach, we have the best receivers 433 00:19:36,668 --> 00:19:38,108 Speaker 1: and running back and we're gonna light it up and 434 00:19:38,108 --> 00:19:40,028 Speaker 1: throw it for five thousand and win twelve games? And 435 00:19:40,468 --> 00:19:43,428 Speaker 1: are people ready for that? I'm always fascinated by the 436 00:19:43,748 --> 00:19:47,548 Speaker 1: public in the media's relationship with Kirk Cousins, and they 437 00:19:47,588 --> 00:19:49,748 Speaker 1: love to hate him, and sometimes he brings out himself, 438 00:19:49,948 --> 00:19:52,428 Speaker 1: sometimes he doesn't. I sometimes think that if Kirk Cousins 439 00:19:52,508 --> 00:19:55,068 Speaker 1: was just just Matt Ryan or just someone who just 440 00:19:55,068 --> 00:19:57,308 Speaker 1: basically just shuts up and doesn't make any waves that 441 00:19:57,348 --> 00:19:58,828 Speaker 1: people would have a different opinion of him. But the 442 00:19:58,828 --> 00:20:01,668 Speaker 1: problem is Kirk Cousins is a goober and myself admittedly 443 00:20:02,108 --> 00:20:04,268 Speaker 1: that's that's their guy right there. Can you get behind that? 444 00:20:04,468 --> 00:20:07,628 Speaker 1: If he throws for seventy touchdowns? Can you still say, yeah, 445 00:20:07,668 --> 00:20:10,068 Speaker 1: that's my guy. I think you struggle with it general 446 00:20:10,188 --> 00:20:13,508 Speaker 1: last year. I'm just gonna go stats. I'm throws downfield's 447 00:20:13,708 --> 00:20:16,388 Speaker 1: longer than touch Sure, you're gonna go stats. Yeah, that's 448 00:20:17,068 --> 00:20:19,548 Speaker 1: one of one. That's the stasistic downfield throws. He was 449 00:20:19,588 --> 00:20:22,028 Speaker 1: the best in the NFL in passer rating and accuracy, 450 00:20:22,068 --> 00:20:24,348 Speaker 1: Like he's excellent, and I think he's been held back 451 00:20:24,388 --> 00:20:26,668 Speaker 1: by the Zimmer experience, in the Zimmer relationship. I just 452 00:20:26,708 --> 00:20:29,108 Speaker 1: want to know if everybody's ready, because I think it's coming. 453 00:20:29,268 --> 00:20:31,828 Speaker 1: I feel very bullish on the Vikings this year. I 454 00:20:31,868 --> 00:20:34,508 Speaker 1: think that they're gonna do huge things. Are you ready 455 00:20:34,548 --> 00:20:36,188 Speaker 1: for Kirk Cousins to be one of the main stories 456 00:20:36,228 --> 00:20:38,788 Speaker 1: in the NFL. It's coming, And he's still gonna listen 457 00:20:38,788 --> 00:20:40,948 Speaker 1: to Creed, He's still gonna go to outback steakhouse and 458 00:20:40,988 --> 00:20:42,428 Speaker 1: pay with the gift cart. It's still gonna be it. 459 00:20:42,588 --> 00:20:45,068 Speaker 1: So if that bothers you that much, you better adjust 460 00:20:45,108 --> 00:20:47,108 Speaker 1: because I think it's coming and I think that's fascinating, 461 00:20:47,188 --> 00:20:49,268 Speaker 1: I hope, so listen. It's not even when I was 462 00:20:49,268 --> 00:20:51,708 Speaker 1: thinking about this question, because I pick Kirk Cousins too. 463 00:20:51,788 --> 00:20:53,348 Speaker 1: It's not even that this is like a make or 464 00:20:53,428 --> 00:20:56,188 Speaker 1: break situation for him, because he has made. Kirk Cousins 465 00:20:56,268 --> 00:20:58,228 Speaker 1: is a made man. He's made his money. He has 466 00:20:58,268 --> 00:21:00,668 Speaker 1: the potential though, to become one of these quarterbacks that 467 00:21:00,708 --> 00:21:03,068 Speaker 1: made an insane amount of money. But his entire career 468 00:21:03,148 --> 00:21:05,628 Speaker 1: could just be about that picture with the sunburn, like 469 00:21:05,828 --> 00:21:07,548 Speaker 1: I mean, and that's what he is remembered for. He 470 00:21:07,628 --> 00:21:10,348 Speaker 1: is teetering on the brink here of us not using 471 00:21:10,348 --> 00:21:13,028 Speaker 1: the word fascinating when we talk about Kirk Cousins. He 472 00:21:13,148 --> 00:21:15,948 Speaker 1: is the answer to to his own question this season, 473 00:21:16,228 --> 00:21:18,348 Speaker 1: and for me, the problem is those are great stats, 474 00:21:18,348 --> 00:21:20,028 Speaker 1: and I respect him and I'm glad that he's doing 475 00:21:20,068 --> 00:21:22,588 Speaker 1: it for the Vikings. My issue is this stat that 476 00:21:22,628 --> 00:21:25,268 Speaker 1: I found, which is in the final two minutes of 477 00:21:25,348 --> 00:21:30,188 Speaker 1: halves last season, the Vikings did not score a single touchdown. Okay, 478 00:21:30,508 --> 00:21:33,468 Speaker 1: they went six for seven on field goals. They had 479 00:21:33,468 --> 00:21:35,468 Speaker 1: to punk the ball away seven times, they gave it 480 00:21:35,508 --> 00:21:39,148 Speaker 1: away one time. I mean two minute offense like we 481 00:21:39,308 --> 00:21:41,908 Speaker 1: heard it in Hard Knocks last night. That is where 482 00:21:41,948 --> 00:21:44,028 Speaker 1: a team is evaluated. That is where a team is 483 00:21:44,068 --> 00:21:46,548 Speaker 1: made and a team wins games. And if that's how 484 00:21:46,628 --> 00:21:48,548 Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins is going to handle his business in the 485 00:21:48,588 --> 00:21:52,308 Speaker 1: final two minutes of halves last season, it has to change. 486 00:21:52,348 --> 00:21:54,428 Speaker 1: And this is this is it. This is it for 487 00:21:54,508 --> 00:21:57,108 Speaker 1: him in terms of the talent that he is surrounded by. 488 00:21:57,268 --> 00:21:59,108 Speaker 1: He doesn't get to say that it's because he's under 489 00:21:59,188 --> 00:22:02,668 Speaker 1: Zimmer's thumb anymore. He has this new head coach that 490 00:22:02,788 --> 00:22:05,548 Speaker 1: is allowing Justice Jefferson to say, I'm always open, I'm 491 00:22:05,548 --> 00:22:07,948 Speaker 1: so excited to be in this offense. And Kirk Cousins, 492 00:22:08,028 --> 00:22:10,308 Speaker 1: for as talented as he is, he is the one 493 00:22:10,308 --> 00:22:12,468 Speaker 1: that can make the difference that he can be fascinating. 494 00:22:12,668 --> 00:22:14,388 Speaker 1: This is it. I feel like this is his season. 495 00:22:14,428 --> 00:22:16,148 Speaker 1: He's got him. He's got to change, He's got to 496 00:22:16,228 --> 00:22:18,588 Speaker 1: change how the Vikings fish game. As you talked about 497 00:22:18,668 --> 00:22:20,708 Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins, all I could think about with him going 498 00:22:20,748 --> 00:22:23,188 Speaker 1: into the locker room yelling how you like me like that, 499 00:22:23,988 --> 00:22:26,188 Speaker 1: like you like that I'm fired up for him. Did 500 00:22:26,228 --> 00:22:28,948 Speaker 1: you choose Kirk Cousins or I chose Kirk Cousins and 501 00:22:29,148 --> 00:22:31,068 Speaker 1: already high And then it kind of like no, I 502 00:22:31,148 --> 00:22:33,508 Speaker 1: just was proving the point that it's his potential this 503 00:22:33,628 --> 00:22:36,788 Speaker 1: season is more fascinating to me. Then you just wanted 504 00:22:36,828 --> 00:22:39,588 Speaker 1: me to use the word fascinating. Didn't isn't more fascinating 505 00:22:39,628 --> 00:22:42,948 Speaker 1: because because Train Lance, because Trey Lance, he has a 506 00:22:42,948 --> 00:22:46,068 Speaker 1: clean slate, like his potential here is whatever he wants 507 00:22:46,108 --> 00:22:48,748 Speaker 1: to make it. Kirk Cousins has already kind of made 508 00:22:48,748 --> 00:22:50,748 Speaker 1: his bed, and I need him to rough it up 509 00:22:50,788 --> 00:22:52,348 Speaker 1: a little bit to make sure that we know that 510 00:22:52,388 --> 00:22:54,508 Speaker 1: he is as good of a quarterback as people like 511 00:22:54,548 --> 00:22:56,868 Speaker 1: to say. I think so there's a sliding doors factor 512 00:22:57,268 --> 00:23:00,148 Speaker 1: this week because Kyle Shanahan is going to be the 513 00:23:00,188 --> 00:23:02,028 Speaker 1: coach for the forty nine ers, and they were together 514 00:23:02,068 --> 00:23:04,028 Speaker 1: in Washington, and when Shanahan first got to the Niners, 515 00:23:04,028 --> 00:23:05,588 Speaker 1: they sounds and was wait a year and Cousins will 516 00:23:05,628 --> 00:23:07,748 Speaker 1: bring him as a free agent and he gets franchise 517 00:23:07,788 --> 00:23:09,868 Speaker 1: tag by the by Washington and then the Vikings give 518 00:23:09,948 --> 00:23:11,988 Speaker 1: him this deal and they had already gotten Garoppolo, Like 519 00:23:12,148 --> 00:23:14,188 Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan, it was always like the eye and this 520 00:23:14,268 --> 00:23:16,348 Speaker 1: guy was at some point he'd finally get Cousins and 521 00:23:16,348 --> 00:23:18,908 Speaker 1: they'd reunite. He's Minnesota and now they've got their guy. 522 00:23:19,148 --> 00:23:21,748 Speaker 1: It's pretty interesting on that. Are you telling me, if 523 00:23:21,748 --> 00:23:23,588 Speaker 1: he'd go back in time that you don't think Washington 524 00:23:23,668 --> 00:23:26,588 Speaker 1: would rather keep Kirk Cousins. Absolutely pay him, pay him 525 00:23:26,588 --> 00:23:29,028 Speaker 1: a long term deal. They got one year in the playoffs, 526 00:23:29,028 --> 00:23:31,588 Speaker 1: which was a ridiculous seven and nine seasons after that's 527 00:23:31,628 --> 00:23:34,468 Speaker 1: been disaster after disaster. If they had kept Kirk Cousins, 528 00:23:34,508 --> 00:23:36,628 Speaker 1: they'd be in better shape. The last nine starting quarterbacks 529 00:23:36,628 --> 00:23:40,148 Speaker 1: in the last three seasons for the Washington Commanders one 530 00:23:40,268 --> 00:23:42,548 Speaker 1: hundred through fifty one. Yeah, those are the players that 531 00:23:42,588 --> 00:23:45,308 Speaker 1: are coming up on the top one hundred this Sunday afternoon. 532 00:23:45,548 --> 00:23:47,908 Speaker 1: We're seeing how the rest of this list unfolded. It 533 00:23:47,948 --> 00:23:49,388 Speaker 1: was pretty cool to see some of the new guys 534 00:23:49,428 --> 00:23:53,068 Speaker 1: come in on one hundred to fifty one, and again 535 00:23:53,148 --> 00:23:57,388 Speaker 1: the players vote, the list comes out and it's nominated 536 00:23:57,428 --> 00:23:59,068 Speaker 1: by the guys that are in the league with them. 537 00:23:59,068 --> 00:24:00,868 Speaker 1: So who will be number one coming up this season 538 00:24:01,028 --> 00:24:02,788 Speaker 1: this weekend? Excuse me? The top one hundred players of 539 00:24:02,828 --> 00:24:05,748 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two percent by truly continues this Sunday at 540 00:24:05,748 --> 00:24:09,028 Speaker 1: forty through a thirty pm Eastern right here on NFL Network. 541 00:24:09,788 --> 00:24:12,588 Speaker 1: Game changing, game altering players, those are the kind of 542 00:24:12,588 --> 00:24:14,628 Speaker 1: guys that land on the top one hundred and two. 543 00:24:14,708 --> 00:24:17,028 Speaker 1: Names that definitely come to mind when you consider players 544 00:24:17,028 --> 00:24:19,708 Speaker 1: like that are Cowboys linebacker Michael Parsons and Bengals wide 545 00:24:19,708 --> 00:24:23,308 Speaker 1: receiver Jamar Chase. They both had huge rookie seasons in 546 00:24:23,348 --> 00:24:25,348 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, and we can only hope that both 547 00:24:25,348 --> 00:24:27,348 Speaker 1: of them earned their spot on the NFL Top one 548 00:24:27,428 --> 00:24:29,988 Speaker 1: hundred players list of twenty twenty two. We think that 549 00:24:30,108 --> 00:24:31,988 Speaker 1: so much so that we're going to talk it's just 550 00:24:32,108 --> 00:24:34,148 Speaker 1: given for us. It's a given for us here. So 551 00:24:34,428 --> 00:24:36,828 Speaker 1: who do we think will rank higher between these two 552 00:24:36,908 --> 00:24:40,708 Speaker 1: second year players on the list, Jamar Chase or Micah Parsons. 553 00:24:40,988 --> 00:24:43,708 Speaker 1: I love them both. I think Michael Parsons has done 554 00:24:43,708 --> 00:24:45,508 Speaker 1: a disservice to every defensive player coming out of the 555 00:24:45,588 --> 00:24:46,868 Speaker 1: draft for the next ten years. He was like, well 556 00:24:46,868 --> 00:24:49,108 Speaker 1: he could be a Michael Parsons, Like that guy is special. 557 00:24:49,468 --> 00:24:52,108 Speaker 1: And yet Jamar Chase, for all the thousands of great 558 00:24:52,108 --> 00:24:53,748 Speaker 1: wide receivers they've seen in this league. I don't know 559 00:24:53,748 --> 00:24:55,828 Speaker 1: if anyone's ever had a better debut season and in 560 00:24:55,868 --> 00:24:58,188 Speaker 1: big spots. Last year in a late window, they played 561 00:24:58,188 --> 00:25:00,388 Speaker 1: the forty nine ers in a game and for Niners 562 00:25:00,428 --> 00:25:02,508 Speaker 1: actually won this game. But this was a Jamar Chase 563 00:25:02,588 --> 00:25:04,388 Speaker 1: pretty much like I'm going to take over this game 564 00:25:04,428 --> 00:25:05,908 Speaker 1: and find a way to win for us. But just 565 00:25:06,068 --> 00:25:08,908 Speaker 1: insane what he did. And then against the Chiefs where 566 00:25:08,948 --> 00:25:12,508 Speaker 1: he had three scorers and basically torched a defending AFC champion, 567 00:25:12,548 --> 00:25:14,028 Speaker 1: said I'm gonna do this again to you if I can't. 568 00:25:14,028 --> 00:25:15,908 Speaker 1: I think Jamar Chased it on the biggest of spots, 569 00:25:15,908 --> 00:25:18,028 Speaker 1: did it in the playoffs, and did it on high 570 00:25:18,148 --> 00:25:21,428 Speaker 1: profile games. The Cowboys lost high profile games. I think 571 00:25:21,428 --> 00:25:23,548 Speaker 1: the players saw what Jamar Chase was doing in those 572 00:25:23,548 --> 00:25:26,428 Speaker 1: big games. I'm gonna go Jamar Chase. Silver Parsons to 573 00:25:26,588 --> 00:25:28,748 Speaker 1: knock on the position as a wide receiver is that 574 00:25:28,828 --> 00:25:32,108 Speaker 1: you yourself cannot physically take over the game the way 575 00:25:32,108 --> 00:25:34,468 Speaker 1: that you want to, the way that perhaps a linebacker. 576 00:25:34,828 --> 00:25:37,268 Speaker 1: And Michael Parsons and when we've talked about and it's 577 00:25:37,308 --> 00:25:39,748 Speaker 1: been shoved down our throats all off season, is his 578 00:25:39,828 --> 00:25:42,188 Speaker 1: top five wide receivers. This that Jamar Chase is kind 579 00:25:42,188 --> 00:25:44,028 Speaker 1: of flirting around the four or five spot on all 580 00:25:44,068 --> 00:25:46,988 Speaker 1: of these lists. Michael Parsons is the best player at 581 00:25:47,028 --> 00:25:50,388 Speaker 1: his position. He will rank higher then Jamar Chase in 582 00:25:50,428 --> 00:25:52,348 Speaker 1: the top one hundred gets coming out this weekend and 583 00:25:52,468 --> 00:25:55,508 Speaker 1: players won through fifty. He was a defensive here, run 584 00:25:55,508 --> 00:25:58,308 Speaker 1: away defensive here. It wasn't even a conversation really for 585 00:25:58,348 --> 00:26:01,828 Speaker 1: anybody else the rest of the season. Thirteen sacks, he 586 00:26:01,948 --> 00:26:05,348 Speaker 1: was easily in All Pro just he's terrifying and he 587 00:26:05,468 --> 00:26:07,868 Speaker 1: alters games and the way quarterbacks feel about how they're 588 00:26:07,908 --> 00:26:10,828 Speaker 1: supposed to operate their offense in any given Sunday. Um, Jamie, 589 00:26:10,868 --> 00:26:13,028 Speaker 1: that's your opinion is a strong one. I respect it. 590 00:26:13,348 --> 00:26:16,068 Speaker 1: The nature of this question is what are the players 591 00:26:16,188 --> 00:26:18,748 Speaker 1: opinions going to be? And Jamie was voting he'd be 592 00:26:18,748 --> 00:26:21,028 Speaker 1: a way up there. But these what are the players think? 593 00:26:21,028 --> 00:26:22,948 Speaker 1: That's we have to guess what they think. And I 594 00:26:23,348 --> 00:26:25,108 Speaker 1: think it's gonna be Jamar Chase. I think it's gonna 595 00:26:25,108 --> 00:26:27,748 Speaker 1: be a pretty sizeable gap. Remember, Jamar Chase made the 596 00:26:27,748 --> 00:26:30,308 Speaker 1: playoff run. The Dallas Cowboys were one and done. Jamar 597 00:26:30,428 --> 00:26:32,428 Speaker 1: Chases in the Super Bowl the players are at home 598 00:26:32,508 --> 00:26:35,388 Speaker 1: watching the Super Bowl, watching the playoffs. I think it's 599 00:26:35,388 --> 00:26:37,188 Speaker 1: gonna be Chase, and I'm gonna make a prediction. I 600 00:26:37,228 --> 00:26:39,228 Speaker 1: think it's gonna be the highest debut in the top 601 00:26:39,268 --> 00:26:42,428 Speaker 1: one hundred. Ever. I think after sae Quon's rookie year, 602 00:26:42,508 --> 00:26:45,108 Speaker 1: after Justin Jefferson's Chase Young had a big one, Chase 603 00:26:45,148 --> 00:26:47,308 Speaker 1: Young got a massive one. I think Jamar Chase the 604 00:26:47,308 --> 00:26:49,188 Speaker 1: other Chase will have the highest debut ever. I think 605 00:26:49,188 --> 00:26:51,868 Speaker 1: he'll be a good twenty twenty five slots out of Parsons. 606 00:26:51,868 --> 00:26:55,308 Speaker 1: I'm gonna respectfully disagree. I'm going with Michael Parsons as well. 607 00:26:55,468 --> 00:26:59,908 Speaker 1: Let's go ahead, MVP Bolts pay not rookie the defensive 608 00:26:59,908 --> 00:27:01,708 Speaker 1: Player of the Year. Bows Yes, he was defensive Rookie 609 00:27:01,748 --> 00:27:04,348 Speaker 1: of the Year. Chase was that on all unanimous Defensive 610 00:27:04,508 --> 00:27:07,348 Speaker 1: Kie the Year unanimous, and they talked about this guy 611 00:27:07,388 --> 00:27:10,148 Speaker 1: as Defensive Player of the Year as a rookie, and 612 00:27:10,188 --> 00:27:12,588 Speaker 1: I think players recognize that when you have a guy 613 00:27:12,628 --> 00:27:15,308 Speaker 1: that just definite in the league. We heard Calvin Shepherd 614 00:27:15,388 --> 00:27:18,268 Speaker 1: say for the Detroit Lions on Hard Knocks last night. 615 00:27:18,388 --> 00:27:21,108 Speaker 1: He said, I'm doing everything in my power not to 616 00:27:21,148 --> 00:27:24,028 Speaker 1: put this rookie as a starter. When a guy shows 617 00:27:24,148 --> 00:27:26,468 Speaker 1: up as a rookie and we're talking about him as 618 00:27:26,508 --> 00:27:30,388 Speaker 1: the best defensive player NUR League players take notice of 619 00:27:30,468 --> 00:27:33,468 Speaker 1: that and they respect that. So I think Michael Parsons 620 00:27:33,708 --> 00:27:35,868 Speaker 1: is going to be ranked higher than Jamar Chase. I mean, 621 00:27:35,868 --> 00:27:38,668 Speaker 1: the guy was insane his rookie year. It's it's a 622 00:27:38,708 --> 00:27:41,788 Speaker 1: tricky question because it's really it's unfair because you're comparing 623 00:27:41,828 --> 00:27:44,908 Speaker 1: positions that really have such a different effect on the field, 624 00:27:45,108 --> 00:27:47,308 Speaker 1: and their only basis for comparison is the fact that 625 00:27:47,348 --> 00:27:49,828 Speaker 1: they're both coming in to their second year UM but 626 00:27:49,908 --> 00:27:52,268 Speaker 1: wide receiver. So is your argument that is he going 627 00:27:52,308 --> 00:27:54,028 Speaker 1: to be what is he gonna be like the second 628 00:27:54,108 --> 00:27:56,668 Speaker 1: ranked highest wide? I think I think Jamar Chase on 629 00:27:56,708 --> 00:27:59,668 Speaker 1: the top one hundred is gonna be UM twenty one. 630 00:27:59,988 --> 00:28:04,228 Speaker 1: I think number twenty one. Take number twenty one, lament 631 00:28:05,388 --> 00:28:07,908 Speaker 1: the forties. That's good, all right, don't miss Michael Parsons. 632 00:28:07,948 --> 00:28:10,588 Speaker 1: It's gonna be an action on NFL Network today. We're 633 00:28:10,588 --> 00:28:13,748 Speaker 1: gonna bring you live coverage of Cowboys and Chargers joint practices. 634 00:28:13,828 --> 00:28:32,668 Speaker 1: Coverage begins at one pm Eastern later today. Cowboys are 635 00:28:32,668 --> 00:28:35,028 Speaker 1: out in La today to take part in the first 636 00:28:35,028 --> 00:28:38,868 Speaker 1: of two joint practices with the Chargers. So let's focus 637 00:28:38,908 --> 00:28:41,508 Speaker 1: on the Dallas side of things, shall we, Because if 638 00:28:41,508 --> 00:28:44,268 Speaker 1: you take a look at how they were ranked last season, 639 00:28:44,708 --> 00:28:46,988 Speaker 1: they're near the top of the league on both sides 640 00:28:47,028 --> 00:28:49,988 Speaker 1: of the ball and a lot of major categories that 641 00:28:50,068 --> 00:28:52,788 Speaker 1: you think would have major impacts on how their season goes. 642 00:28:52,868 --> 00:28:55,628 Speaker 1: Yet when we break it down in the NFC, it's 643 00:28:55,708 --> 00:28:59,588 Speaker 1: still the big three teams, Rams, Bush, Packers, and then 644 00:28:59,588 --> 00:29:01,388 Speaker 1: there's quite the drop off. There's quite the drop off. 645 00:29:01,428 --> 00:29:03,988 Speaker 1: So should the Cowboys be considered one of the NFC 646 00:29:04,108 --> 00:29:07,228 Speaker 1: power teams? Should we change it to the forceful four 647 00:29:07,388 --> 00:29:11,028 Speaker 1: or anything like that? Are they deserving? No? You have 648 00:29:11,068 --> 00:29:14,228 Speaker 1: to earn it right, and they haven't. I know that 649 00:29:14,268 --> 00:29:16,028 Speaker 1: we could talk about them more than any other team 650 00:29:16,028 --> 00:29:17,588 Speaker 1: in the league, and we do that very well. But 651 00:29:18,028 --> 00:29:19,548 Speaker 1: how do you put them above the forty nine Ers? 652 00:29:19,628 --> 00:29:21,988 Speaker 1: Right now? Forty nine Ers went to the NFC Championship Game. 653 00:29:22,228 --> 00:29:25,708 Speaker 1: For Niners have maybe the best offensive tackle and defensive 654 00:29:25,748 --> 00:29:27,428 Speaker 1: lineman in the league. When you talk about what they 655 00:29:27,468 --> 00:29:30,268 Speaker 1: have at Trent Williams and Bosa, I've got the Niners, 656 00:29:30,588 --> 00:29:33,748 Speaker 1: even with Trey Lance, way above the Cowboys going into 657 00:29:33,748 --> 00:29:37,188 Speaker 1: this season. I've got another team in the NFC beyond 658 00:29:37,308 --> 00:29:40,268 Speaker 1: those three, And then I think the Arizona Cardinals had 659 00:29:40,268 --> 00:29:42,548 Speaker 1: a more impressive season than the Dallas Cowboys last year. 660 00:29:42,548 --> 00:29:44,428 Speaker 1: I know the Cardinals didn't win the division. They were 661 00:29:44,428 --> 00:29:46,988 Speaker 1: seven and oh before injuries ravaged their season and they 662 00:29:47,028 --> 00:29:48,748 Speaker 1: limped to the end and have obviously had their bad 663 00:29:48,748 --> 00:29:51,268 Speaker 1: playoff loss. But I love that we talk Cowboys. I 664 00:29:51,308 --> 00:29:53,388 Speaker 1: think it's important. I think they're a great fan base, 665 00:29:53,428 --> 00:29:54,788 Speaker 1: and they've got the star in the helmet and the 666 00:29:54,828 --> 00:29:56,428 Speaker 1: logo and all that stuff. But when you're talking about 667 00:29:56,428 --> 00:29:58,588 Speaker 1: the most penalized team in the league, a team that 668 00:29:58,668 --> 00:30:01,148 Speaker 1: coughed up a playoff game at home last year yet again, 669 00:30:01,308 --> 00:30:03,068 Speaker 1: and a team that has been a lot of hype 670 00:30:03,068 --> 00:30:04,388 Speaker 1: and a lot of buzz for the last few years 671 00:30:04,468 --> 00:30:06,668 Speaker 1: but hasn't developed on the promise, I can't put them 672 00:30:06,668 --> 00:30:10,788 Speaker 1: in that power conversation. Packers win playoff games most years, 673 00:30:11,748 --> 00:30:14,828 Speaker 1: Buccaneers been playoff games most years, and the Rams have 674 00:30:14,868 --> 00:30:16,748 Speaker 1: won the Super Bowl. Those three teams are heading shoulders 675 00:30:16,748 --> 00:30:19,468 Speaker 1: above the Cowboys training I'm sorry, let's look at the 676 00:30:19,508 --> 00:30:22,828 Speaker 1: playoff games that the Cowboys have won in the past. 677 00:30:23,148 --> 00:30:26,628 Speaker 1: Who knows twenty five seasons, they're trying to get better. 678 00:30:26,668 --> 00:30:29,388 Speaker 1: I'm not going to crush the Cowboys. Just isn't the 679 00:30:29,468 --> 00:30:31,108 Speaker 1: segment where you just say all the Cowboys like, no, 680 00:30:31,148 --> 00:30:33,988 Speaker 1: they're a good football team. But when you talk about 681 00:30:34,308 --> 00:30:37,828 Speaker 1: the top teams in the NFC, no, they're not there. 682 00:30:37,948 --> 00:30:40,308 Speaker 1: You're almost just like, you see, Eli, we're gonna talk 683 00:30:40,348 --> 00:30:42,508 Speaker 1: Cowboys at the beginning of the nine o'clock hour, and 684 00:30:42,548 --> 00:30:45,428 Speaker 1: you're just like, do we have to haven't we said 685 00:30:45,468 --> 00:30:48,148 Speaker 1: everything that we need to say about the Cowboys. I 686 00:30:48,188 --> 00:30:50,588 Speaker 1: grew up with Cowboys man the ms Smith, the Choi 687 00:30:50,668 --> 00:30:53,948 Speaker 1: eight Mans, the Michael Irvin's winning Super Bowls. I won 688 00:30:54,068 --> 00:30:56,228 Speaker 1: five dollars off my mom when they beat the Pittsburgh 689 00:30:56,228 --> 00:30:58,068 Speaker 1: Steelers and the Super Bowl when I was a kid. 690 00:30:58,428 --> 00:31:01,228 Speaker 1: I still have that five dollars. Don't But the Cowboys 691 00:31:01,308 --> 00:31:03,068 Speaker 1: they're a good football team. They're gonna be good in 692 00:31:03,108 --> 00:31:05,868 Speaker 1: a regular season. But the biggest question is going to 693 00:31:05,948 --> 00:31:08,708 Speaker 1: be what do they do when the postseason starts. Are 694 00:31:08,708 --> 00:31:10,868 Speaker 1: they able to win those games? Are they able to 695 00:31:10,868 --> 00:31:13,108 Speaker 1: beat the good teams in the NFL. And they just 696 00:31:13,188 --> 00:31:15,348 Speaker 1: haven't done that. They haven't done that enough for us 697 00:31:15,388 --> 00:31:17,668 Speaker 1: to say, hey, they're one of the top four teams 698 00:31:17,668 --> 00:31:20,388 Speaker 1: in NFC, and like you said, Peter, there's other teams 699 00:31:20,428 --> 00:31:22,348 Speaker 1: out of vying for that spot that we don't know 700 00:31:22,388 --> 00:31:24,548 Speaker 1: that we're putting the Cowboys above them. We don't. I 701 00:31:24,588 --> 00:31:27,108 Speaker 1: don't even know what we're talking about. Power team. That 702 00:31:27,188 --> 00:31:29,228 Speaker 1: is a made up term. I've never heard that before. 703 00:31:29,508 --> 00:31:31,428 Speaker 1: It's as if we got together in a board room 704 00:31:31,468 --> 00:31:33,348 Speaker 1: and said, let's come up with a new way to 705 00:31:33,388 --> 00:31:37,908 Speaker 1: talk about cost the ball around and now it's your turn. 706 00:31:38,228 --> 00:31:41,748 Speaker 1: Power It's just everybody, this is in a safe space. 707 00:31:41,988 --> 00:31:44,388 Speaker 1: We need to talk. Are they a power team? What 708 00:31:44,388 --> 00:31:46,708 Speaker 1: were you talking about? You? Are you mentioned Rams and 709 00:31:46,828 --> 00:31:50,148 Speaker 1: Bucks and Packers? That's the team? Like the Cowboys are 710 00:31:50,188 --> 00:31:52,748 Speaker 1: the udonist heslam to that group, like it's just there 711 00:31:52,908 --> 00:31:55,428 Speaker 1: all the time, Like are they are they necessarily contributing? 712 00:31:55,748 --> 00:31:57,788 Speaker 1: And also like even just that example, we came up 713 00:31:57,788 --> 00:32:00,828 Speaker 1: with those three teams. They never beat any of those teams. 714 00:32:01,108 --> 00:32:04,988 Speaker 1: Rogers owns them. They got stomped in the playoffs, the Rams, 715 00:32:05,068 --> 00:32:08,148 Speaker 1: the Jared Goff Rams, they lost to the Box, They 716 00:32:08,188 --> 00:32:10,668 Speaker 1: lose the What are we talking? I think more importantly, 717 00:32:10,708 --> 00:32:12,308 Speaker 1: like they might be in Like I look at the 718 00:32:12,308 --> 00:32:14,468 Speaker 1: Cowboys like they're kind of like in the Vikings class. 719 00:32:14,708 --> 00:32:16,868 Speaker 1: But even the Vikings were at a title game with 720 00:32:16,948 --> 00:32:19,028 Speaker 1: Case Cannon as their quarterback. Just is all you need 721 00:32:19,068 --> 00:32:21,388 Speaker 1: to know. The Dallas Cowboys have not been to a 722 00:32:21,468 --> 00:32:24,468 Speaker 1: title game since nineteen ninety five, the same year the 723 00:32:24,548 --> 00:32:28,428 Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars started as a franchise. The Jaguars, who get 724 00:32:28,468 --> 00:32:31,468 Speaker 1: disrespected and crapped on and ignored, have been to three 725 00:32:31,828 --> 00:32:35,108 Speaker 1: title games in that time. The Cowboys the power team 726 00:32:35,228 --> 00:32:38,548 Speaker 1: fake term is a zero. So we're still here and 727 00:32:38,588 --> 00:32:40,508 Speaker 1: we still try and and guess what. They're gonna be 728 00:32:40,548 --> 00:32:41,908 Speaker 1: good this year. I think we've been ten games. They're 729 00:32:41,948 --> 00:32:45,628 Speaker 1: living games. Yeah, so now not a power team? No, No, 730 00:32:45,668 --> 00:32:47,948 Speaker 1: they're not. You're gonna say yes, d no, Oh my god, 731 00:32:47,988 --> 00:32:50,228 Speaker 1: oh my god. I would I would have been so 732 00:32:50,788 --> 00:32:53,268 Speaker 1: disrespectful to you. I'm sorry waiting for you to take 733 00:32:53,308 --> 00:32:56,108 Speaker 1: a breath before I was able to. I guess quadruple 734 00:32:56,228 --> 00:33:00,268 Speaker 1: down on everything we just said about that some segment thee. 735 00:33:00,708 --> 00:33:02,948 Speaker 1: But the team they kill it, they could, but they 736 00:33:02,988 --> 00:33:05,428 Speaker 1: haven't beaten team like you said, they haven't beaten good teams. 737 00:33:05,428 --> 00:33:07,828 Speaker 1: When it matter is the playoff teams that they faced 738 00:33:07,908 --> 00:33:11,268 Speaker 1: last season. They were three and five against those teams, 739 00:33:11,268 --> 00:33:13,388 Speaker 1: teams that made the playoffs, three and five against non 740 00:33:13,428 --> 00:33:16,828 Speaker 1: playoff teams, nine and one. Good job, you're winning games. 741 00:33:17,308 --> 00:33:19,588 Speaker 1: On the record books, it looks great you won double 742 00:33:19,628 --> 00:33:22,228 Speaker 1: digit wins, but you're not playing in and winning meaningful 743 00:33:22,268 --> 00:33:24,948 Speaker 1: games when it matters. The playoff game they had last 744 00:33:24,948 --> 00:33:27,228 Speaker 1: season is case in point as to why they are 745 00:33:27,268 --> 00:33:29,308 Speaker 1: so frustrating and why we were always talking about them 746 00:33:29,428 --> 00:33:33,628 Speaker 1: in this capacity in August. Those other Big three, I'll 747 00:33:33,668 --> 00:33:37,788 Speaker 1: shift from power team to the big three, Packers, Rams, 748 00:33:37,788 --> 00:33:40,348 Speaker 1: and Bucks. They've all played in a conference championship game 749 00:33:40,348 --> 00:33:41,828 Speaker 1: in the last two years, and I said it. I 750 00:33:41,868 --> 00:33:44,028 Speaker 1: won't even mention what year it was the last time 751 00:33:44,068 --> 00:33:45,668 Speaker 1: the Cowboys because I feel like it's just it. It 752 00:33:45,788 --> 00:33:47,868 Speaker 1: hurts every time we have to say it, and I 753 00:33:47,908 --> 00:33:49,788 Speaker 1: know it hurts Cowboys fans. They're going to be good, 754 00:33:49,828 --> 00:33:52,828 Speaker 1: but like, give us a reason why we're still talking 755 00:33:52,828 --> 00:33:55,868 Speaker 1: about them next August and we're not all quadrupling down 756 00:33:55,948 --> 00:33:57,748 Speaker 1: the fact that no, they are not a power team 757 00:33:57,788 --> 00:33:59,588 Speaker 1: and clean it up like this is not a fun 758 00:33:59,588 --> 00:34:01,188 Speaker 1: product to watch when you have one hundred and twenty 759 00:34:01,268 --> 00:34:04,588 Speaker 1: nine hours of penalties in the preseason debut after last 760 00:34:04,668 --> 00:34:06,148 Speaker 1: year in the playoffs. I think that's what it is. 761 00:34:06,148 --> 00:34:08,228 Speaker 1: It's frustrating for us, and I know we seem exasperated 762 00:34:08,268 --> 00:34:09,668 Speaker 1: because we're on the show a lot and we talk 763 00:34:09,708 --> 00:34:11,948 Speaker 1: Cowboys at town and they're not worthy of the same 764 00:34:12,148 --> 00:34:14,188 Speaker 1: level of conversation maybe the Rams and the Chiefs and 765 00:34:14,228 --> 00:34:16,828 Speaker 1: the Bills get on the show, and yet it's because 766 00:34:16,828 --> 00:34:19,028 Speaker 1: of the sloppiness, because of the coach and the time management. 767 00:34:19,068 --> 00:34:22,228 Speaker 1: Sometimes like it's almost like you know they can be better, 768 00:34:22,308 --> 00:34:24,668 Speaker 1: and you know that they deserve to be discussed, and 769 00:34:24,668 --> 00:34:26,588 Speaker 1: then plays like this happened and you're like, well, that 770 00:34:26,628 --> 00:34:28,228 Speaker 1: wasn't the right play call and it wasn't the right 771 00:34:28,228 --> 00:34:30,188 Speaker 1: execution and they probably thought there was a tight out. 772 00:34:30,188 --> 00:34:32,348 Speaker 1: I don't even know, like what happened here. It's the 773 00:34:32,508 --> 00:34:36,628 Speaker 1: expectations never are fulfilled. And frankly, it's not even like 774 00:34:36,748 --> 00:34:39,188 Speaker 1: the questions that we are surrounding the Cowboys with is 775 00:34:39,188 --> 00:34:42,548 Speaker 1: like what are they going to do with the pass rush? 776 00:34:42,628 --> 00:34:44,148 Speaker 1: What are they going to do with their offensive? Like 777 00:34:44,348 --> 00:34:47,628 Speaker 1: they have good players, they have talented players, So that's 778 00:34:47,628 --> 00:34:50,628 Speaker 1: why these questions, these questions that kind of are this 779 00:34:50,828 --> 00:34:54,508 Speaker 1: cloud of uncertainty surrounding this team and how good they 780 00:34:54,548 --> 00:34:56,788 Speaker 1: could be. That's why they're so frustrating, because it's not 781 00:34:56,948 --> 00:35:00,108 Speaker 1: it's about game management and mental mistakes and not about 782 00:35:00,148 --> 00:35:02,308 Speaker 1: the pure talent that they have. Yeah, I think as 783 00:35:02,308 --> 00:35:04,268 Speaker 1: far as the Cowboys fan base, you know, I've been 784 00:35:04,468 --> 00:35:06,868 Speaker 1: this rant about five times in the last six months 785 00:35:06,868 --> 00:35:09,388 Speaker 1: and it goes out there and the common response that 786 00:35:09,468 --> 00:35:12,868 Speaker 1: I get is Cowboys fan here, no lies detected. You know, 787 00:35:12,988 --> 00:35:15,388 Speaker 1: he's spitting facts, Like this guy, what can I say? 788 00:35:15,468 --> 00:35:17,348 Speaker 1: It's it's all facts. And I always come out like 789 00:35:17,388 --> 00:35:19,348 Speaker 1: I don't have anything wrong with the Cowboys as a team. 790 00:35:19,348 --> 00:35:20,988 Speaker 1: They should be talked about as one of thirty two. 791 00:35:21,068 --> 00:35:23,268 Speaker 1: But this idea that they're this championship standard and the 792 00:35:23,268 --> 00:35:25,788 Speaker 1: cream of the crop is an idea from the nineties. 793 00:35:25,828 --> 00:35:27,308 Speaker 1: It's just not a thing. It's a thing that we 794 00:35:27,308 --> 00:35:29,868 Speaker 1: were little kids for. I do think that Dak Prescott 795 00:35:29,908 --> 00:35:33,388 Speaker 1: portion of it is interesting because, look, Dak mirrors the 796 00:35:33,428 --> 00:35:35,868 Speaker 1: Cowboys in many ways in this sense that I like 797 00:35:36,028 --> 00:35:38,628 Speaker 1: Dak and I respect him, but like he's very very good. 798 00:35:38,948 --> 00:35:42,388 Speaker 1: He's not quite the best, and he's kind of cool, 799 00:35:42,468 --> 00:35:44,468 Speaker 1: and he's in a lot of commercials and he's really famous. 800 00:35:44,548 --> 00:35:46,668 Speaker 1: It makes a lot of money and I have respect 801 00:35:46,708 --> 00:35:50,028 Speaker 1: for him, but like he's still just not that top, top, 802 00:35:50,068 --> 00:35:53,028 Speaker 1: top guy. And I don't think the Cowboys are either. 803 00:35:53,628 --> 00:35:56,388 Speaker 1: We're just gonna keep doing it until they win a 804 00:35:56,388 --> 00:35:58,108 Speaker 1: Super Bowl or get to a title game. They weren't 805 00:35:58,148 --> 00:36:02,108 Speaker 1: under Romo, they weren't Underway Phillips. Like, it's just it's 806 00:36:02,188 --> 00:36:04,948 Speaker 1: been two decades of that. I know. It's called Spada 807 00:36:04,988 --> 00:36:08,268 Speaker 1: spay two. In our industry of sports media, it is 808 00:36:08,868 --> 00:36:11,788 Speaker 1: understood that it is a good thing when the Dallas 809 00:36:11,788 --> 00:36:13,948 Speaker 1: Cowboys are good. It is a good thing when the 810 00:36:14,028 --> 00:36:16,908 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys are on national TV. It's a good thing 811 00:36:16,908 --> 00:36:19,468 Speaker 1: when the Yankees are in the postseason, when the Lakers 812 00:36:19,468 --> 00:36:21,948 Speaker 1: are there, when the New York Rangers are there. We 813 00:36:22,068 --> 00:36:23,988 Speaker 1: get it. So give us a gift, give us a 814 00:36:24,028 --> 00:36:26,668 Speaker 1: reason why we're doing this, and there's a reason why. 815 00:36:26,908 --> 00:36:30,428 Speaker 1: That is kind of the unspoken rule of sports television 816 00:36:30,748 --> 00:36:35,308 Speaker 1: is that is watchable, good viewership TV. But they haven't 817 00:36:35,348 --> 00:36:36,868 Speaker 1: delivered in twenty filth year,