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Speaker 2: five twenty podcasts. I'm the host. My name is DJ Wells,

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Speaker 2: Special special guests. To my left man, we're gonna introduce

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Speaker 2: my man's last. To my far left, we got my

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Speaker 2: dog Bishop be hearing out the prailes.

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Speaker 5: How you what nasty, cool and national. Let's get to

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Speaker 5: a baby.

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Speaker 2: I know what I'm saying. I know you know I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: You know what you really normally be on. But you

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Adida's athlete, this nasty, this one for you.

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Speaker 1: And the other time we got them the villain shoes

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Speaker 1: on over there. So I'm happy show respect to our guests.

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Speaker 3: One time. To my right, my dog young natcho, young

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Speaker 3: tag got you what man.

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Speaker 1: Chilling bro, Another whole seven graduate in the building. So

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Speaker 1: it's about to be a good.

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Speaker 2: Pot for sure, for sure, man, Like you said, another

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Speaker 2: seven class. Listen, man, we got a legend in the building,

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Speaker 2: Indiana legend. Anytime you talk about high school basketball, you

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Speaker 2: better mention his name right here. Man, we got aj

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Speaker 2: Eric Gord seventeen year NBA vetting the building.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate you, big doll sliding through man.

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Speaker 5: No doubt. Man, it's been a long time coming up.

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Speaker 5: Should have been a long time ago, but it's it's

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Speaker 5: good that.

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Speaker 6: I'm here now.

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Speaker 2: You've been busy getting money, man, We understand you, stid o,

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Speaker 2: busy getting to it. We under stay your sketch a

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Speaker 2: little bit different nine months out of the year. But listen, man,

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Speaker 2: we gotta take it back, y'all. Origin of basketball, playing

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Speaker 2: each other. What I'm saying eighty Naples, Indiana one of

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Speaker 2: against it. Everybody knows since Lisa, you was the coldest, bro.

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Speaker 2: How was that growing up with them? Type of expectations?

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Speaker 5: Bro, Well, I mean it was different because you know,

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Speaker 5: I've been playing agains Jeff since I would say what

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Speaker 6: Gardens and shout out of the gardens.

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Speaker 5: The funniest thing is growing up from l Elementary school

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Speaker 5: And then as I reached around, you know, eighth grade,

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Speaker 5: You all your origin, you know, but ej we thought

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Speaker 5: I ain't trying to throw you, you know, your folks

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Speaker 2: Man. Love seeing Pops out man, especially not doing with

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Speaker 5: Cold Joe Pop start you off with the fundamembers first though,

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Speaker 5: he for sure did. That was the number one thing

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Speaker 6: You know on that Monday.

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Speaker 5: On that Monday, my dad would be like, hey, Jeff, Jeff,

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Speaker 5: And he did that every week, just passed me on

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Speaker 6: You know, what are you gonna do against him?

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Speaker 5: Like he made me really hate every one of y'all

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Speaker 3: You know, I didn't want to talk to us.

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Speaker 6: Sam.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, what's up, boy? You're good.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, well fuck you.

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Speaker 5: He just kill you.

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Speaker 1: After a while, Like this said ship to him. Man,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what to a robot. So your dad

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Speaker 5: In you, like he never he didn't believe in bad games.

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Speaker 5: She didn't believe. He said, you just figure out a way.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 5: He always wanted me to score and always wanted me

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Speaker 5: just that's that's definitely part of the story. And uh

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Speaker 5: because you know that I was going to gainst A

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Speaker 5: lot of good players were talking about you, Michael Conley, Golden,

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Speaker 5: the list goes on for real them of course, baking

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Speaker 5: them ship. Did you ever play? Uh what ship? Walter

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Speaker 5: was hyped back.

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Speaker 3: Then a little bit.

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Speaker 5: I mean see what we've even played against Gordon Hayward

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Speaker 3: That switch was crazy, motherfucker.

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Speaker 5: I don't set a pick on me so hard to

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Speaker 2: That's what when we get to the high school stuff. Though,

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Speaker 2: How was that like planning that experience with that crazy

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Speaker 5: No, we knew that was We knew there you talking

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Speaker 5: about speech Indie heat Absolutely, yeah, No, we we knew

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Speaker 5: was whooping. Ship. You ever remember one of your toughest

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Speaker 5: but imagine way more athletic, and Lou Will would dunk

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Speaker 1: But that's what I tell people about you, Like when

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Speaker 1: I'm like, the fucker dunk on a free throw line

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Speaker 1: a type of crazy ship like, and people know you

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Speaker 1: as a shooter. I'm like, he was shooting like that,

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Speaker 1: but that used to dunk on everybody.

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Speaker 6: But yeah, I would.

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Speaker 1: No, I know, I remember Tommy friends to Tommy.

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Speaker 3: Ain't gonna do I remember.

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Speaker 2: Here.

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Speaker 1: Now we know he was one heat, but you know

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You finished your career with a different

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Speaker 1: team and was the reason he got dunked on court.

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Speaker 5: And I remember that game too because I felt like

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Speaker 5: there was some calls getting missed and we were up

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Speaker 5: and we were pissed off and then.

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Speaker 1: Ship No, I just that's when I say, yeah, he

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Speaker 1: the best player in the country was between you and

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Speaker 1: Bees because Bees did us bad. And then we was

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Speaker 1: being young and you went off for like thirty five

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Speaker 1: in the second half. I'm like, this, motherfucker, here's crazy man,

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Speaker 1: Like everybody like he was supposed to play with Chelsea. Ye, man, Like,

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Speaker 1: how you just go lead a year ick Cup?

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Speaker 5: What the fuck? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Nah, y'all was cold.

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Speaker 2: That's crazy, Like you said, man shouts to class all seven,

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Speaker 2: c d Ross retire your form?

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Speaker 5: You back?

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Speaker 3: How is that? You know what I'm saying?

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Speaker 2: Like that experience, like because you went from that great

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Speaker 3: Yeah they y'all didn't need nobody else.

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Speaker 1: I ain't had no real big man. I mean Tim

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Speaker 5: Was you already committed to Illinois before you went to

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I was committed during my time at Main Streets.

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Speaker 5: I mean me and d Row who was supposed to

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Speaker 6: My heart was always an Indiana.

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Speaker 5: I always wanted to play at IU always, so uh

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Speaker 1: That's crazy. It's crazy they try to put us in

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Speaker 3: He called me out likeic going to Illinois. He was like,

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Speaker 5: You watch.

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Speaker 1: I promise you that team. I promise you, y'all not

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Speaker 1: getting out of Indiana. I said, Man, I'm not going

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Speaker 5: I'm not going there there automatic number one like after Gate,

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Speaker 5: Yeah I did. I mean, you always love the how

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Speaker 6: But okay, and.

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Speaker 5: Because I know I wasn't gonna go far. I wanted

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Speaker 2: But please recap that because, like you said, you're going

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Speaker 3: The batterial back because what you did is them, Bro,

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Speaker 5: Before you start, I just want to say big shout

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Speaker 3: If Marcus would have had we had, they might have won.

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Speaker 5: You know, I didn't know anything about Loyola Academy, but

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Speaker 1: Respectful Broby, he did he right, he's so disrespectful.

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Speaker 3: With Jordan and the crowd.

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Speaker 5: What was that a fifty piece?

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Speaker 6: What you have? I think it was close by, I

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Speaker 6: don't know the exact number.

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Speaker 3: Crying. Then they had the air of Gordy Jerseys. I

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Speaker 5: Gordon was insane.

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Speaker 1: I was like, this is is dope. Though it may

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Speaker 1: it made me feel good being from Indianapolis though, hell.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like you said, like you look at them teams,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, for sure, like almost everybody on whoever went

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Speaker 5: which is crazy. Was trying to tell Norris Norris was

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Speaker 5: just on you know, shouts Norris. But Indiana was just

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And when Union have to leave the city, Like we're

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Speaker 2: just talking about the Mick, we didn't even go to

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Speaker 2: Like for me, I went to j El so I

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Speaker 2: the reception that like y'all got because y'all was cold.

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Speaker 2: Obviously you was that nigga and it was just like

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Speaker 3: Yeah. North Central, Oh, niggas had the air. Gordon Tee

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Speaker 2: Merch Boy was back there, Bro, you would have been

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Speaker 2: a millionaire north Central.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, no, North Central. I loved my time there.

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Speaker 5: I mean some of the best days my life was there.

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Speaker 3: So the fuck fight you can change in our coach

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Speaker 3: and it wasn't no Irriantine.

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Speaker 5: Forty four merch.

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Speaker 1: They had none of that. Only think we had a

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Speaker 1: for for real.

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Speaker 6: Let you do talking crazy though, Yeah, talking shit.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about that. That that senior year mashed up

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Speaker 2: beginning of the year. It was always a common thing tradition.

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Speaker 2: Pipe played North Central first game of the year, y'all

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Speaker 2: senior years. You know what I'm saying, you was going away,

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Speaker 2: You're going to IU. That's another legendary high school game.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 2: I was that from your side, and he talked about

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Speaker 2: say going into that. I was always underrated, so I

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Speaker 1: I was like one hundred or something. So I was

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Speaker 1: just trying to let people know I can hoop. I

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Speaker 1: really got reinforcements like I used to have, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, load and we needed to be loaded.

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Speaker 1: So I'm like, it's just me and my guy. I

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Speaker 1: feel Kyle ain't never played varsity. Fucking I'm about to

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Speaker 1: shoot this one. So we was having him back and forth,

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Speaker 1: and at the end of the game, he did what

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Speaker 5: You killed though, Bro.

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Speaker 3: It looks like thirty three point wise something like that.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, he you did get it going.

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Speaker 5: And uh, I just knew like he would always be

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Speaker 5: Like I knew a lot of those things. And uh

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Speaker 5: uh because if if he does well, Pike does well.

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Speaker 5: You know, even though they got other guys that can

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Speaker 5: do some things, because y'all still had Cordell pass league

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Speaker 5: Kyle and Phil and uh big Dennis. Yeah, y'all had

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Speaker 5: Big Auto though, bro Otto was a motherfucking problem back

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Speaker 1: And then you'll had a gang coach there. Now we

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Speaker 1: didn't know him yet. He came to Senior. I don't

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Speaker 1: even know he could hoop. He came out hooping. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because we just talked. We just game planning for you

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Speaker 1: I was like, damn, that was a good game for sure,

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Speaker 1: classic game for Shure. And like you said, you know

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, you go to IU. I had a

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Speaker 1: hell of a You had a hell of a freshman year. Man,

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Speaker 1: I had a sad ass squad. How was that, steff

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Speaker 1: playing it simply all was different?

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Speaker 6: No, it was differently. No, we had a rocket and uh,

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Speaker 5: Much adversity throughout that whole you know, freshman year because

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Speaker 5: we were talented as hell. I mean I mean every

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Speaker 5: you play against good teams, and I mean we just

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Speaker 6: You had our mind on my basket. Yes, sorry, and you.

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Speaker 5: Had a uh JaMarcus Ellis Tone Marcus pieces in peace

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Speaker 5: we just had a lot of guys. You know, I

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Speaker 5: we did have a squad and uh uh I just hated.

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Speaker 5: I would love to see how far we could have

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Speaker 5: went if they didn't fire Sampson.

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Speaker 6: That's that was the thing.

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Speaker 3: That's crazy, would you.

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Speaker 2: I mean, obviously we didn't think he was going back,

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Speaker 2: see everybody like stopped that a hope when that shit

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Speaker 2: came out. So like, dealing with that in university different

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Speaker 2: know that's administry stuff, but you on campus, you got

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Speaker 2: to see it here and now, like y'all going through that,

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Speaker 2: like like you said, the issues he was going through,

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Speaker 2: you was like, all right, now I gotta look focused

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Speaker 2: now you like, shit, I love college, but I know

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Speaker 5: Well, it was a lot mentally because I mean as

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Speaker 6: What I mean, with Samson and U. I mean, it

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Speaker 5: But me mentally, I mean I still had to I mean,

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Speaker 6: I miss.

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Speaker 5: I even fractured my risks, uh during the during practice

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Speaker 6: I mean, we go to the doctor. Doctor said, oh man,

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Speaker 6: you fractured your risk. You're gonna You're gonna be out

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Speaker 6: for a little while.

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Speaker 5: And after that doctor's part, my dad said, fuck that

443
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Speaker 5: taking that ship up.

444
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Speaker 6: And we're still playing, I think, and we had to play.

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Speaker 6: I'll never forget we played.

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Speaker 5: Had to play against Wisconsin like two days later with

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Speaker 5: a fractured risks so damn Yeah.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying? Did you know?

465
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Speaker 2: Obviously you know it's projected lottery. You go through a

466
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Speaker 2: tommutual situation. Are you now you going to the league?

467
00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:36,040
Speaker 5: How was that? No, I mean getting drafted was. I mean,

468
00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:39,560
Speaker 5: that was a great experience and my rookie year, I

469
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Speaker 5: mean that was.

470
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Speaker 3: My boy went to LA. Yeah, that was hell get

471
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Speaker 3: drafted too.

472
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Speaker 5: Yeah, that was a unique experience because that was actually

473
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Speaker 5: the first time, I mean my first ten to twelve games.

474
00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:55,199
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm over I'm only I'm over here averaging

475
00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:58,399
Speaker 5: five minutes a game, and we were losing, and I

476
00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,000
Speaker 5: was like, what are we doing here? You know?

477
00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:04,879
Speaker 6: So, uh, kids got it good today.

478
00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,320
Speaker 5: I mean you could be these young kids now, the

479
00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:09,160
Speaker 5: guys that get drafted, I mean they get the keys

480
00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:12,080
Speaker 5: handed to him from day one, because I think everybody

481
00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,560
Speaker 5: in my draft only d Rose was the only one

482
00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,520
Speaker 5: that started, and everybody else had to work their way

483
00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:22,200
Speaker 5: to starting and figuring out their way throughout the throughout

484
00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,480
Speaker 5: the year. They gave you the keys.

485
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Speaker 3: It was up.

486
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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, you start night.

487
00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:31,520
Speaker 3: Doing what he do best.

488
00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,800
Speaker 5: What what was that changing point though? Like what game?

489
00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:36,879
Speaker 5: You remember what game or what happened between you and

490
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,520
Speaker 5: the coaching staff, like what like all right, give Eric

491
00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:40,639
Speaker 5: the ball now? God damn it.

492
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Speaker 6: I mean there was I mean there was a lot.

493
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Speaker 6: I got into it.

494
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Speaker 5: I remember I got in trouble a little bit with

495
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:50,920
Speaker 5: the team, and but things just turned out for me

496
00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,760
Speaker 5: because you know, a lot of guys were injured. I

497
00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:55,760
Speaker 5: think Baron Davis was injured and all that, and then

498
00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,800
Speaker 5: uh then I got to start a lot of guys

499
00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:00,399
Speaker 5: got injured. So I got my star and I never

500
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:03,560
Speaker 5: forget It's against New Orleans against CP three, and uh

501
00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:05,439
Speaker 5: next thing, you know, we won like.

502
00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:08,840
Speaker 6: Three four games in a row, even though we still.

503
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:12,520
Speaker 5: Went like twenty and sixty two. I was trying to Yeah,

504
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:16,879
Speaker 5: we as, but uh but that's kind of solidified. And

505
00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:19,920
Speaker 5: you know my career and I you know, I did

506
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 5: well and I started to find my way and be myself.

507
00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:24,560
Speaker 5: That's why I feeled that they helped your confidence out

508
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 5: a lot in the NBA. Like, damn, I'm averaging twenty

509
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,280
Speaker 5: in the league. We losing. I want to win, but shit,

510
00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:30,119
Speaker 5: I'm killing.

511
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Speaker 3: I remember how strong this motherfucker was.

512
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,159
Speaker 1: When he came back after his rookie season, he was

513
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Speaker 1: working out with Chris we was over there that best choice.

514
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:41,280
Speaker 3: He called me up there.

515
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 1: I was getting ready to go to the draft, and

516
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Speaker 1: I came up there and I looked what the fuck?

517
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Speaker 3: I was like, Nah, Chris is like, you gotta get

518
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:55,200
Speaker 3: bigger man. I'm like, shit, looked like the rock I'm

519
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:55,800
Speaker 3: gonna do with that?

520
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:56,919
Speaker 6: Like that's what the.

521
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Speaker 3: Guards look like. Mann, I ain't gonna make it. You said,

522
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Speaker 3: like be here. When Gordon came back.

523
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Speaker 5: Especially Schwartz of God going, Hayward, I love you. You

524
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:11,879
Speaker 5: know you my one of my guys. He was on

525
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:16,440
Speaker 5: that ship. Don't nobody My boy just returned. So we

526
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Speaker 5: can speak that my boy, that vein in this stick.

527
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,520
Speaker 5: I was coming back to Swallow came back to campus

528
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 5: because he was skinny. He was skinny his whole life. Yeah, shut,

529
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Speaker 5: he got to the.

530
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Speaker 6: Damn mare what the league? Or is like his last

531
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 6: year Butler?

532
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Speaker 5: Last year, his last year Butler.

533
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Speaker 2: I remember, like I was on campus at the time,

534
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Speaker 2: and I was all right, but we kept in there

535
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 2: at that that's a pro. But when he came back

536
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 2: that first year from the Jazz, I'm like, damn, like

537
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:44,560
Speaker 2: you hit a growth spurt of twenty two?

538
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 5: Did that slow you down though getting bigger? Or did

539
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 5: that you feel like that helped you? No, it helped

540
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,440
Speaker 5: me because my game was all about contact. Every time

541
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Speaker 5: I get in the basket, I'm all I was looking

542
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 5: for it. So you know, because I believe in every

543
00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 5: time I look for contact, I don't don't even really

544
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 5: have to be sometimes, I don't have to feel like

545
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,200
Speaker 5: I have to be explosive getting to the rim.

546
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:08,639
Speaker 2: So okay, using the science, using the VET tricks, learn

547
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 2: how to score professionally. It's crazy. I never really put

548
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:12,480
Speaker 2: to it to together. Now you was on the Donald

549
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 2: style clipper. That is crazy? Is greaty, That's no wonder

550
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 2: why there was a lot of issues you go to

551
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Speaker 2: the White.

552
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Speaker 6: Party three years three years of it, biggest ship.

553
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 3: In the directors. They said, yeah, a white party on

554
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Speaker 3: the show. I just want to see that's true.

555
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 2: That's that is crazy. But like you said, one of

556
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:41,639
Speaker 2: your best games against New Orleans, you didn't know you

557
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:43,119
Speaker 2: was auditioning. You know what I'm saying that you go

558
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 2: to a boy had to leave Sonny LA for New Orleans. Man,

559
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,639
Speaker 2: how was that transition your first taste of the basketball business?

560
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,159
Speaker 6: Man? I was, I'm not gonna lie. I was pissed.

561
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 5: I was pissed because during that time, people forget I

562
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,720
Speaker 5: was supposed to sign like a max deal with with La,

563
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 5: like right then and there.

564
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Speaker 6: And then uh that's when we had the lockout.

565
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 5: And once we got back from there, I mean I

566
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 5: was they were promised like you're gonna be here for

567
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:15,120
Speaker 5: five years, this and that because the trade was done.

568
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:16,679
Speaker 5: I mean it was supposed to be. I think, uh,

569
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 5: Bledsoe came in and alfru alfa roup and and then

570
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:25,680
Speaker 5: we thought that. Then once they backed out of it,

571
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Speaker 5: I guess they were someonemight have probably went to the

572
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 5: gym and and they just threw me in there and

573
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 5: the rest was history. And I, you know, I was

574
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,680
Speaker 5: a little bit confused, and I was younger too, so

575
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:39,119
Speaker 5: and then when I got to New Orleans, like I

576
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,679
Speaker 5: wanted to do well, but I had already got injured.

577
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 6: I was already injured.

578
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 5: And you know, people down there, they just thought I

579
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 5: just didn't give it them or anything while I was

580
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 5: down there. But but uh, but they a couple of

581
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:53,879
Speaker 5: years earl when I got to New Orleans, we went

582
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:55,639
Speaker 5: to the playoffs. And I don't know what people be

583
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 5: getting mad for down there.

584
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Speaker 3: That's a lot to ask for down there. Be grateful.

585
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,879
Speaker 1: New Orleans is cool city. Though it is, it is

586
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 1: cool city. But nah, going from l A to New

587
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 1: Orleans is like me going from Atlanta.

588
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 5: By saying.

589
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 3: Here it is, it's like Atlanta to it back home.

590
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:28,160
Speaker 3: It's crazy. It's like it's a different toll. It's like, man,

591
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 3: I mean, being from here made it a little easier,

592
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 3: but the way life.

593
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,440
Speaker 2: Is a different for sure. I gotta ask you don't

594
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,479
Speaker 2: play a couple of dope cities. What's your favorite city

595
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:37,119
Speaker 2: you played in so far?

596
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 6: I would say Houston in l a fire city. Yeah,

597
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 6: Houston l a top too.

598
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 2: And you was a part of one of the Katas

599
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 2: runs in basketball in Houston. Like you know what I'm saying.

600
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 2: I was that you know what I'm saying, contending every

601
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 2: year in the West, I had to go against one

602
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:53,880
Speaker 2: of the best teams ever.

603
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 5: Man. Yeah, man, I was definitely the most fun team

604
00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 5: I've been on. And uh, you know, we were together

605
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 5: all the time.

606
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:03,159
Speaker 1: You know, it was.

607
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 5: I mean, it was easy to win. Like, it was

608
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 5: very easy to win. We just hoop our coach. I mean,

609
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:11,359
Speaker 5: he was a big part of it. Dan Tony was

610
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 5: a big part of it. He let us be us.

611
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,679
Speaker 5: We followed, you know, his scheme, but at the end

612
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 5: of the day, you know, he just let us be

613
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 5: us and he made it fun. You know, his experience

614
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 5: made it fun. But uh, but yeah, I mean like

615
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,639
Speaker 5: we had a hell of a team. James was, I

616
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 5: mean being around him, working with him every every day,

617
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 5: a special player. But we had a lot of other.

618
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,680
Speaker 6: Guys that I mean it was y'all had a squad, No,

619
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 6: we did have a squad for years.

620
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 3: Yea, I had a squad.

621
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Speaker 1: Bro What was that like, like embracing that six man road,

622
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 1: Like coming from being a starter, it ain't going to

623
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 1: being like a six man And then like embracing the

624
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 1: rod and then like really really flourishing in it.

625
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 5: Though. Yeah, because during my time in New Orleans, you know,

626
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 5: I was like, I'm going to go to after I

627
00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 5: left there, I was like, I'm going to go to

628
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 5: a team where I just want to win and I'll

629
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 5: figure out the rest. Like I'm just gonna figure it out.

630
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna be injured. I'm going to figure out

631
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 5: ways to be injured and just go out there and play.

632
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 5: And uh, I didn't care what if I started or not.

633
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 5: But as soon as I got there, I was like,

634
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 5: they gave me a you know, a formula to to

635
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 5: what I needed to do. You know, they didn't care

636
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 5: if I ever practiced. They was like, we just want

637
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 5: you to be healthy to love and uh, you know,

638
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 5: great training staff, good you know medical staff and everything

639
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 5: and uh.

640
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 6: But after that, I was I just embraced it. I

641
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 6: think I was like, I don't care, I'm gonna win

642
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 6: six Menut of the Year.

643
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 5: I want to you know, knocking out knock down a

644
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 5: lot of threes during d'antoni's play because you know how

645
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 5: that that it was difficult to guards show.

646
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 3: And that was perfect for the way you played basketball. Like,

647
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 3: oh no, just layups and three of course he.

648
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 5: Can do that.

649
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, see everybody.

650
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 5: The funny thing is everybody wants to talk about doing that,

651
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 5: but you got to still be able to, you know,

652
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 5: move the ball. You know, if you don't have a

653
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 5: clear cut lay up or what not, then somebody else

654
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 5: has to be open. So but it was it was

655
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 5: good basketball, y'all.

656
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 6: Was tough to play.

657
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 5: We played on the playoffs.

658
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 6: Like that sweet out of there. Y'all got one game,

659
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Speaker 6: didn't you? Minnesota?

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Speaker 5: Y'all cook that game?

661
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Speaker 3: You're right, we didn't get.

662
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Speaker 5: I cooked that for me. I'm like, at least I

663
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 5: got one year.

664
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Speaker 3: They got I had one good game.

665
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Speaker 2: That's crazy they listen, you know, So we can't talk

666
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 2: about James hard too much in this podcast. You'll beginning

667
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 2: with it, but we're not gonna let that legacy down down.

668
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 2: You saw it first hand, like James Harden was really

669
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 2: killing everybody trying to act like that did not happen.

670
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Speaker 3: It's weird that that he wasn't kidding.

671
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Speaker 2: They try to they try to downplay that now like

672
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Speaker 2: it was just okay because of the Luca stuff.

673
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Speaker 5: I might know.

674
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Speaker 3: James Harden was really destroying ship.

675
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Speaker 2: If y'all didn't run into the Warriors, it's a different

676
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 2: conversation and even some of the stuff that happened with

677
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 2: like don't pull his hand stright, y'all win that seriously

678
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Speaker 2: for sure?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, No, I truly believe if CP didn't and get injured,

680
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 5: we would have we would have won that year.

681
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Speaker 6: I really do think want the championship.

682
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Speaker 3: Yeah, they had the beat for sure, I would m

683
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Speaker 3: YEA was up three two three two.

684
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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you think they get in Cleveland respect the respect

686
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 2: the was gonna be to whoever was in the East.

687
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 2: Know they were scoring too much, they had to be Cleveland, right, Yeah,

688
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 2: be whoever was in the East.

689
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Speaker 3: That might have been tough. That been a hell of

690
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Speaker 3: a series.

691
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 5: That'd have been a hell of a series. That's what

692
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 5: had me hold on.

693
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Speaker 3: But yeah, I was definitely supposed to come out the

694
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Speaker 3: West that year.

695
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Speaker 5: Who was the best player you can played with in

696
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 5: your career so far in seventeen years, best teammate, best player,

697
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 5: then you can do, the best teammate, the best player

698
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 5: that I ever played against, play with, play with, Throw

699
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 5: you on the bus right now, I love it. Tell

700
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 5: you've been around some killers, some ship That's why I'm

701
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 5: asking you. And what's crazy is now you're about to

702
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 5: play with another gold coming this season this year. Yeah

703
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 5: you got m v P Joe. Well yeah, uh he

704
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 5: played with a lot. KD was a special one and

705
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 5: James was a special one because I mean I played

706
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Speaker 5: with a D.

707
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 6: A D was Yeah, bro young, he was.

708
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 5: He was coming into his own Yeah, yeah, yeah, KD.

709
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 5: I'll let you come back to it.

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Speaker 3: It's a tough one, that's crazy. Yeah. I forgot about

711
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 3: the Phoenish squad.

712
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, cold one of the best, still going

713
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 2: to it, crazy man.

714
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 3: That's a tough question for him. Yeah, yeah, I gotta

715
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 3: ask you though.

716
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 2: People want to know how you know what I'm saying

717
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 2: now I was talking about now you know what I'm saying,

718
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 2: new season coming up?

719
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 3: Got you where you at her right now? You and

720
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 3: Philly with it?

721
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 2: How you know what I'm saying? How did you come

722
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 2: about that situation? You know what I'm saying, Well, I

723
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 2: want to.

724
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Speaker 5: Get a chance to win, and uh, I thought, you

725
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 5: know Philly because you know, I'm familiar with their uh

726
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 5: front office, Darryl Morey and all them. And then I

727
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 5: look at their team and I'm like man, Maxie, he's

728
00:32:55,880 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 5: really involved and b you know that player. You know

729
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 5: you look at Kelly Bray and and now they have

730
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 5: Caler Martin and then you got PG that just in

731
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 5: the mix with all of that. And I'm like, and

732
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 5: you know me to fit in, you know, to be

733
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 5: knockdown shots to shooting, you know, creating, you know as

734
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 5: those guys are creating. So I was like, man, we

735
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 5: can really have some shot at something.

736
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Speaker 2: Facts I show you crazy Shore. I don't know if

737
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 2: you gonna be the pacerss, but you know what I'm saying.

738
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Speaker 2: I feel like, hey, why you would never come home,

739
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 2: bro and we're here, Why you ain't come funk with

740
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:33,239
Speaker 2: the Pacers? Man?

741
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Speaker 6: Man, I don't think there's really ever been a real

742
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 6: shot and chance.

743
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Speaker 5: You want to win?

744
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Speaker 1: I was like, that was a good answer answer for you.

745
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 1: You want to come to the point. But he'll fit

746
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 1: this team perpose. I mean, you won't feel like you

747
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 1: fit that team perfect too. But why you shoot the ball?

748
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 1: But people always forget that you're a really good defender

749
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 1: like this Nigga is strong as ship. I'm telling you, like,

750
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 1: you can't put him and Chris Paul and Eric Bles

751
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 1: only guards you can't post. I used to watch people

752
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 1: try to post him, Oh you're Andrew, But it was like,

753
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 1: I'm like this nigga is strongest.

754
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 3: I watched people I watch him guard cat Cat was

755
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Speaker 3: trying to post him.

756
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 5: You got a lot of smut on cat name.

757
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,919
Speaker 3: No, I love Cat, But what he trying to post y'all?

758
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:30,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, he couldn't post him, said, we switched everything.

759
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 3: He couldn't post him. I switched crazy. Your two guard

760
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 3: should be switching on your fire comfortably.

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Speaker 5: That's nuts.

762
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 3: They was strong in him and PJ James strongest ship.

763
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:40,879
Speaker 3: They had a strong ass team.

764
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Speaker 5: That's a good thing to hoilight though, because people don't

765
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,760
Speaker 5: talk about how good of a defending you. They focusing

766
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 5: on you shooting though. But I think the Sixth ain't

767
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 5: saying because you're here. I just think y'all got a

768
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 5: good chance to move forward though.

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Speaker 6: This year.

770
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 5: I got a way better team than y'all had over

771
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 5: the recent years. Man. Yeah, for sure, don't worry. The

772
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 5: patients ain't ship. That's just that's fun. That's all be

773
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 5: good money.

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00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 2: You know.

775
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:06,839
Speaker 6: You don't know, bro, They're gonna make the playoffs for sure, playing.

776
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 1: Not on.

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00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:10,839
Speaker 6: Y'all.

778
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 3: I don't rocking.

779
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 6: Now.

780
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 3: We don't know what team us supporting today. We know

781
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 3: the Hawks. They're gonna be here. You know how we

782
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 3: rocked the Hawks trade trail on this demon time.

783
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 2: Now.

784
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 3: I talked to him the other day.

785
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 5: He's back.

786
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 2: See you on that trying what that sounds like about

787
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 2: to get your money free trade? They about to treat

788
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,320
Speaker 2: them eleven jerseys like them, Julius raddles.

789
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 5: Ship these top heavy now, bro, yeah that these top

790
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:40,959
Speaker 5: we are we under the radar.

791
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:41,439
Speaker 3: It's cool.

792
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:42,840
Speaker 6: Just have y'all.

793
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 1: Put that pay just going out Atlanta when.

794
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 5: They act like kawhile letter when they played the Holls

795
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 5: you cut off to straight up.

796
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 3: Oh y'all crazy.

797
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 2: Oh Man, listen, I know you got a heart out, Eaj.

798
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 2: We appreciate you sliding on this big dog man, listen,

799
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 2: legend in the city. I love every time we talk

800
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 2: about basketball, especially when it comes to high school basketball.

801
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 3: It's always praise for you.

802
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 2: We've been excited for this episode. This is one for

804
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 2: the city. I had classic battles Man. We appreciate you

805
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 2: sliding on you man. Good luck this year, you know

806
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, except when we pay the patiers. Good

807
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 2: Luck this year. Man, we appreciate you all rocking with

808
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 2: us like share, subscribe all that good shit.

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Speaker 3: We'll be back next time. Club five twenty The volume