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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet. I'm welcome to Season one, thirteen, episode

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Speaker 1: four of Dirty nine Guist, a production of I Heart Radio.

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Speaker 1: This is a podcast where we take a deep dive

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Speaker 1: into America's share consciousness and say, officially, off the top,

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Speaker 1: fuck the Cooke Brothers and Fox Fox News. It's Thursday,

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Speaker 1: December nineteen, two thousand nineteen. My name's Jack O'Brien, a

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Speaker 1: K wet pockets because f sweaty fuss, what are you

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Speaker 1: gonna do? That's courtesy of at Zoos again, and I'm

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Speaker 1: thrilled to be joined by my special guest co host,

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Speaker 1: the Latin dancer U t I herself Caitlyn dropt happy here. Oh,

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Speaker 1: just got a couple more anagrams for y'all. Got the

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Speaker 1: most anagrammable name in the business. Y'all ready for this? Okay,

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Speaker 1: dance dance, Dance dance, Caitlyn take panagramming to radiant nut

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Speaker 1: lice growth. That's so growth, But I guess it's good

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Speaker 1: that it's radiant. It's radiant. There to be radiant. If

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Speaker 1: I had nut life, I would want them to be radiant,

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Speaker 1: like positively radiant. You're glowing. It's like it's like you're

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Speaker 1: talking to a pregnant. Oh my god, you're a radiant Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and then I've got um. I feel like I should

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Speaker 1: have saved radiant nutlights for last because this one, this

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Speaker 1: one's not quite so radiant. But italic nerd aunt. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I messed. I've sucked up real bad. I mean they're

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Speaker 1: both bug related. I like that bug related? Yeah? How

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Speaker 1: is Oh? Sorry, okay, yeah, I'm just no, No, that's

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Speaker 1: my bad. I should have known. I should have short

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Speaker 1: have realized there was no we could make it um

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Speaker 1: and like the insect if it was you Italian or

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Speaker 1: sorry Italics. Oh but Italian also works if I changed anyway. Look,

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Speaker 1: these are both going to be the rest of the episode,

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Speaker 1: you guys, so just sit back. We're going to work

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Speaker 1: out a couple of things. So these are both courtesy

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Speaker 1: of at jasp Spades, So thank you. Full disclosure though,

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Speaker 1: uh Jace of Spades. Uh they uh anagrammed as radiant

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Speaker 1: lice nut. But I thought it would be funnier if

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Speaker 1: it was radiant nut lice. So I did take some

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Speaker 1: right decision. Thank you, Thank you so much. I mean

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Speaker 1: writing is editing, you know, in many ways writing is rewriting. Yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: we're thrilled to be joined in our third seed by

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Speaker 1: the hilarious and talented open Mike. What's up. It's so

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Speaker 1: good to have you here. Radiant nut Life. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: don't know if I prefer mine to be radiant, you'd

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Speaker 1: rather be than like lackluster? Well, I just feel like

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Speaker 1: they might mean like they are irradiated, like they might

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Speaker 1: be incredible, hulk life radioactive. They might slam me arout

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Speaker 1: the room by my Testically, I don't I wouldn't want that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that would look funny, though, Um, your name anagrams to Nope,

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Speaker 1: Mike Eagle, Hey, that's that's fun Not not quite as

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Speaker 1: good as I will send my name today sometimes. Alright, Mike,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna get to know you a little bit better. Okay, moment,

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Speaker 1: But first we are going to tell our listeners just

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Speaker 1: a couple of things we're talking about today. Uh. Star

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Speaker 1: Wars episode nine reviews dropped, uh, two nights ago at midnight. Uh,

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Speaker 1: and they're not great. I've never seen anything. You've never

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Speaker 1: seen people? Well, no, I mean people are so angry.

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Speaker 1: I've never seen people that's pretty angry. Yeah, they were

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Speaker 1: post angry after the after the Last Jedi and they're

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Speaker 1: the president is dealing with his impeachment. I'm talking about

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Speaker 1: this Cree voter purging in Georgia still happening, just all

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Speaker 1: sorts of ship cats Apparently. Tom Hoover, the director of

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Speaker 1: Cats on the Red Carpet, admitted that he had uh

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Speaker 1: talk about that, all of that and plenty Moore. But first, Mike,

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Speaker 1: search history that is revealing about who you are? My

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Speaker 1: last thing I searched for was it's called Blog of Doom.

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Speaker 1: Blog of Doom. Yeah, it's behind the scenes pro wrestling blog. Okay,

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Speaker 1: way to qualify that Blog of Doom. You learn anything interesting? Oh?

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Speaker 1: That's his content. So this is him shooting on whatever

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Speaker 1: wrestling happened Monday Night? Got it okay? And his wrestling

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Speaker 1: is every week like forever forever. They never have there

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Speaker 1: it's been like that since like the eighties. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: we don't daily zeitgeist never takes a break, right, that's

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Speaker 1: not thrown around by a muscle bound person for a living. Right.

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Speaker 1: Imagine somebody came in the room dress as an irradiated lice,

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Speaker 1: week every week? Goodness, Yeah, you're made of good stuff. Calin,

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Speaker 1: thank you. What is something you think is overrated? Sweet

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Speaker 1: potato fries? Yes, thank you? Speak quite white? Gross. I

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Speaker 1: start being honest with ourselves about how you don't need

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Speaker 1: to cook every potato the same way. Okay, so what's

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Speaker 1: your what's your beef with sweet potato fries? The sweetness

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Speaker 1: And they're also I feel like they are a bit soft.

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Speaker 1: I guess that's it. Right. What's a yam? And that

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Speaker 1: is that the same thing as a sweet We don't

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Speaker 1: They don't. It's not that you justlike sweet potatoes. I'm

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Speaker 1: What's underrated? Digital comic books? Digital comic digital comic books?

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Speaker 1: What do you read them? I have the Marvel Comics

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Speaker 1: What what am I missing about digital comic books? Well,

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Speaker 1: Well you know that most of them are now anyway.

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Speaker 1: It's just the one nerd behind the counter, and you

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Speaker 1: We got a few frames and the crowd is laughing,

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Speaker 1: through the pretty big uh. And finally, what is a myth?

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Speaker 1: is dope. That's a one, one good scene in that movie.

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Speaker 1: And that's all I remember. I think that was the

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Speaker 1: first movie I saw Drunk, the first Stars movie I

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Speaker 1: saw Drunk and uh and then you've been drunk for everyone. Yeah,

424
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:24,440
Speaker 1: ever since I love Star Wars. Um, yeah, I mean

425
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:28,360
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily agree with that order. I will say, however,

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Speaker 1: to my earlier point, I think teen Wolf is a

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Speaker 1: perfect movie because yeah, because I saw a Team Wolf.

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Speaker 1: What Team Wolf was one of the first movies I

429
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Speaker 1: saw like a hundred times, And my movie viewing apparatus

430
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Speaker 1: is like wolf shaped, like just like what my opinion

431
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:54,400
Speaker 1: of like what a good movie? So like it sucks,

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Speaker 1: it's not a good like it's not a good movie

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Speaker 1: judging apparatus. So I openly admit that I see what

434
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Speaker 1: you're saying, not enough teen wolves in Star Wars. So

435
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 1: these conversations are framing by what how we what we

436
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 1: grew up watching? Right, So if my list was ordered

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00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 1: in that by that matrix, Um, my number one Star

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Speaker 1: Wars movie would be the e Walks movie, which is

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00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 1: filled with little teen wolves. Oh man, I have to

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00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:31,199
Speaker 1: reorder my home. Uh do you have a like a

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Speaker 1: clear number one in the Star Wars saga? Oh no, Um,

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00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 1: I just I like the first three. I like them all,

443
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 1: like their one movie that you just in three parts. Um.

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Speaker 1: I had this weird thing where I like Revenge of

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Speaker 1: the Sith, even though it was terrible, but I liked

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00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 1: it the first Like the Attack of the Clones. I

447
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 1: cannot stay awake during that movie. I cannot that. And um,

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00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 1: Phantom Menace, well, no, I was thinking about the other

449
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 1: movie that, um that I can't stay awake and I

450
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 1: can't even remember the name of it. Is a Star

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00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 1: Wars movie or something else. No, but it's another huge

452
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 1: sci fi movie to people love a lot that was

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Speaker 1: remade recently. Runner. Yes, I cannot stay awake. I cannot

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00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 1: stay awake during movies are boring. Um yeah, and so yeah,

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Speaker 1: the first ones I don't think about. I mean the prequels,

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Speaker 1: I don't think about the original trilogy I think is great,

457
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 1: and I like the most recent too. I didn't love

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Speaker 1: Rogue one as much because I'm not here for like

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00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 1: the side stories really not really like I just want

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Speaker 1: to know, like what happens in the main story. Well,

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00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 1: all right, those are all correct opinions. I think. I

462
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 1: don't mind being less correct though. It's fine with me.

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00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 1: All Right, we're gonna take a quick break and then

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00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 1: we're gonna come back and try to talk about things

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Speaker 1: that aren't Star Wars we'll see and we're back. And

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Speaker 1: uh the president is as we speak about Star Wars

467
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Speaker 1: for minutes. I'm uh, and he's not dealing well with it.

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00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what anyone expected. He sent

469
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Speaker 1: an angry, impotent letter, uh, addressed to his Democratic colleagues. Uh.

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Speaker 1: That was just ranting and somewhat incoherent. And you can

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Speaker 1: tell his proof read by someone punched up for language fanciness,

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Speaker 1: because he uses various words that seem like they're outside

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Speaker 1: of his range. Uh. But he Yeah, he claims that

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Speaker 1: he doesn't think it's going to change anyone's mind. He's

475
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Speaker 1: just doing it for the purpose of history. Uh. And yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's being impeached and freaking out on Twitter, which is

477
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 1: well in character for him. I guess that's what he does. Yes, Um,

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Speaker 1: do you guys want to hear some thirty of the

479
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 1: most unhinged lines? Are a couple of most and then

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00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 1: let's rank them after Yes, this is what we do.

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Speaker 1: You have cheapened the importance of the very ugly word

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Speaker 1: impeachment test exclamation points, So just a lot of twists

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Speaker 1: and turns in that, because yeah, importance of an ugly word,

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00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 1: which it seems like he has a steam for the word,

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00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 1: but then it's a very ugly word. It's you dare

486
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Speaker 1: to invoke the founding Fathers in pursuit of this election

487
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 1: nullification scheme. Yeah, it sounds like Dr Doom. I know

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00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 1: it does. There's a lot of exclamation points in this letter.

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Speaker 1: How many exclamation points are there in the Constitution? I

490
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 1: would guess none, zero, hell of a lot of semi

491
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 1: collins but not. Yeah, I don't know. This is fuck it.

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00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 1: Let's not talk about I'm over it. I'm over this guy.

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00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 1: We're How are you guys feeling about the upcoming election?

494
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 1: Do you think he's gonna get reelected? Oh? Gosh, Um,

495
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 1: I don't know. I really truly don't have much faith

496
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 1: in humanity anymore. So I don't know. I think not,

497
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 1: but I don't know. We all thought Hillary was going

498
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 1: to get the get nominated or to get elected. But yeah,

499
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 1: but um, that didn't happen. So I didn't know. I

500
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 1: don't know what you think. I um, I choped a

501
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 1: lot of what happened when the last election happened up

502
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 1: to um people being kind of apathetic and feeling like, oh,

503
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 1: Hillary is just gonna win, So like everybody stay at home,

504
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 1: you know. Um So I remember like right after he

505
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,479
Speaker 1: got inaugurated, it like the women's marches and all that,

506
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 1: and feeling like, oh, yeah, he's gonna get totally destroyed

507
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 1: in the next election because people are dialed in now,

508
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 1: like they know that they need to come out and vote.

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00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 1: And I've been coasting on that hope for the past

510
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 1: like two and a half years. But now, like day

511
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 1: by day, I find my cynicism creeping up, and I'm

512
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 1: getting scared because his fans, his supporters, are getting no

513
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 1: they're fans, No, they're fans, that's what they are. His

514
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 1: wrestling fans are getting angrier and angrier and stirred up

515
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 1: more and more. What's his approval rating these days? Do

516
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 1: we know? It's still below his disapproval rating by a

517
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 1: good ten percentage. But that gives me some hope. Well,

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00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 1: you know, the other thing is too, there was a

519
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 1: lot of weird ship that had to happen for all

520
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 1: those people's minds to get changed the first time, for

521
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 1: them for their anger and their frustration to be capitalized

522
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 1: upon in a way that would perfectly help him. I'll

523
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 1: at Facebook trickery and all that ship. They can't necessarily

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00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 1: do all that ship again, right, so he has who

525
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 1: he has. They're gonna try, of course they're gonna try.

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00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 1: I think it's a little harder to do now because

527
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 1: a lot of the Facebook ship was actually instilling apathy

528
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,799
Speaker 1: in people. It was just being like just tamping down

529
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:28,839
Speaker 1: people's enthusiasm for Hillary. It's just like, yeah, you don't

530
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 1: have to vote for Trump, but like you don't want

531
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 1: to vote for her. And you know, I think I

532
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 1: think that ended up swaying the election. I mean so

533
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 1: so much of it came down to like two thousand

534
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:43,799
Speaker 1: votes or votes in certain states. So well, oh my god,

535
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 1: don't remind me how about how Hillary won the popular vote?

536
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 1: And then because of our dumbshit electoral college system is

537
00:34:55,600 --> 00:35:00,359
Speaker 1: how we have Trump as president. Um. Yeah, I I don't.

538
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 1: I really can't say. I'm hoping with all of my

539
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 1: heart and praying to I don't I don't know. I

540
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:13,320
Speaker 1: don't pray to anybody but Charles Darwin praying to him,

541
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 1: um that he does not get reelected. But I don't know.

542
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 1: I haven't become apathetic, but I have just lost a

543
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 1: lot of hope in the system. That bish election. That

544
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 1: was a punch that was a punch and face that

545
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 1: Boris Johnson did that Do you do you see that

546
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 1: like Love Actually? Homage that Boris Johnson did. Uh that

547
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 1: scene from Love Actually where the creepy guy has all

548
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:50,839
Speaker 1: the yeah the signs he he like did that as

549
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:55,919
Speaker 1: a campaign ad and uh, it made me throw up

550
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 1: in my mouth. The guy shows up to his best

551
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 1: friends house and tells his best friend's wife that he's

552
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,919
Speaker 1: in love with her, but quietly so his best friend

553
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 1: doesn't doesn't and it's like, that's that's love, that's what

554
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:18,800
Speaker 1: love is. Actually, that's romantic. That's like being a fucking

555
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 1: human monster, Like that is the worst thing. And and

556
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 1: it's clearly written by a guy because the woman's like, oh,

557
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:30,359
Speaker 1: it's so sweet and then runs out and kisses him,

558
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 1: and it's like, what if your best friend had opened

559
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,959
Speaker 1: the door? Yeah, what was your plan? Do? So fuck

560
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 1: yourself that movie, that whole movie right ahead and funk itself. Um, well,

561
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 1: do we want to talk about voter purgase on the

562
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 1: subject of how the Republicans are gonna win? Because Georgia

563
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 1: has followed up the single largest purging a voter rolls

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00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 1: five thousand voters in two thousand eighteen with a yet

565
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:04,360
Speaker 1: another voter purge of three hundred thousand Georgians. Um. Basically,

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00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:09,839
Speaker 1: you know, creating rules that people that are difficult inconvenient

567
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 1: for people to follow, uh, and then using those rules

568
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 1: to disqualify people. Uh. And Wisconsin they do the same

569
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 1: ship They've purged over two thirty thousand voters. Uh. Wisconsin

570
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,760
Speaker 1: is a state where Trump won by twenty three thousand votes.

571
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 1: So yeah, you gotta check on your registration no matter

572
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 1: where you live, because this is the way that Republicans

573
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 1: can win, even if we have huge turnent. How is

574
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 1: this legal? Like? How how how to do we let

575
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 1: this happen? Um? It's straight up kleptocracy that people in

576
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 1: power are stealing power by changing the rules of making

577
00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 1: it like they're not even trying to justify it as fair.

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00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:07,799
Speaker 1: Or usually happens in like low income areas or like

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00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:11,840
Speaker 1: neighborhoods where that are like predominantly people of color living

580
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 1: in them, stuff like that. That's like where these this

581
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:19,840
Speaker 1: voter purge in voter suppression usually happens. Right. Is this

582
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 1: where Trump installing all those judges comes in? Yeah? Okay,

583
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 1: well yeah, yeah, quietly the he's quietly doing damage that

584
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:33,879
Speaker 1: will last a lifetime. One quick case study I want

585
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 1: to do that we've had on the dock for a

586
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:39,800
Speaker 1: couple of days is this story that was written about

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00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 1: something that happened and I guess des Moines or somewhere, Yeah,

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00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 1: in des Moines. So this guy who lives across from

589
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:52,880
Speaker 1: an elementary school where six of the students are not white,

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00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 1: decided to glow up his front yard with Confederate flags

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Speaker 1: and swastikas. Uh. And the way, I just want to

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00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 1: read through this article because it's a good example of

593
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 1: the both sides ing ship that like drives me crazy

594
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 1: and that I think is like a cancer on our democracy.

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00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:18,240
Speaker 1: So like it says this Fox thirty two articles says

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Speaker 1: a homeowner living to next to an elementary school and

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00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 1: IWA's facing backlash for painting Confederate battle flags on swastikas

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00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:29,280
Speaker 1: on pallets around his property. The symbols are clearly visible

599
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:32,319
Speaker 1: from the school. He added that people shouldn't construe the

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00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 1: painted palates as racist, but Morris Elementary and des Moines

601
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 1: disagreed and released a statement denouncing Stark's ideology. School officials

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00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,760
Speaker 1: say the students, who are about six and non white,

603
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 1: see the symbols when arriving and leaving school and even

604
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 1: from the playground. They don't know their history. Evidently, Stark said,

605
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Speaker 1: that's the only reason I can think of that they

606
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 1: think anything bad about it. They don't know their history,

607
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 1: so they're just like putting, I don't know that drives like,

608
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 1: and then they just leave that out there. They're like,

609
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 1: but then a school parents said the swastika is a

610
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 1: symbol of white supremacy. It's like, so, yeah, yeah, that's

611
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:16,839
Speaker 1: kind of the purpose. Yes, that's and then but they

612
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:20,839
Speaker 1: print him saying, well, if you think this is bad,

613
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Speaker 1: you don't know your history, just like alongside history of

614
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 1: people being obscenely racist throughout history. Yeah. Um man, if

615
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 1: people if he's like a racist piece of ship, he

616
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 1: should just like for him to be like, no, this

617
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:45,360
Speaker 1: isn't racist. You just don't know your history. What what

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00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:48,839
Speaker 1: does he think? I can't even artist what I'm trying

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Speaker 1: to point to. What's the non racist history of the

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00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 1: swastica and Confederate flect together right right, Like, yeah, it's

621
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Speaker 1: the alternate history that white supremacists tell each other that

622
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:08,760
Speaker 1: involved them as the protagonists, And uh, you know that

623
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:13,720
Speaker 1: that's just left unspoken, and it just the article basically

624
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,760
Speaker 1: begs the question, what what history is he talking about?

625
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 1: It doesn't point to, it doesn't doesn't say, it doesn't address,

626
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 1: it just leaves it out there. I guess it's that

627
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 1: it's the idea of objectivity that it seems like journalism

628
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:32,760
Speaker 1: tries to hold onto yes, but can it no, because

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Speaker 1: there's no such thing really. Right, Well, it's we have

630
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Speaker 1: the show on that's now We're cold, worst year ever,

631
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 1: that's about here, we're about to start and just as

632
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 1: already said, this is gonna be bad, and they did

633
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 1: a profile of Jake Tapper. Uh, they did really cool

634
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 1: like what their first few episodes are about, you know,

635
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 1: the sources that we currently rely on for coverage of

636
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 1: the election, And they did this thing on Jake Tapper,

637
00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 1: and like, as you trace how he covers politics, you

638
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 1: see that he has like fetishized finding a way to

639
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 1: like he'll do a thing that is pro left, but

640
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,720
Speaker 1: then he has to find something that's pro right, even

641
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 1: as the right moves further and further to the right

642
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:24,800
Speaker 1: towards racism and what its supremacy. And it's just it's infuriating,

643
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:30,839
Speaker 1: but it's it's just this very surface level definition of

644
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 1: objectivity that they've all subscribed to. I mean, what I

645
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:40,320
Speaker 1: don't understand about this guy who's like very clearly flaunting

646
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 1: like racist iconography in his front yard and his stupid

647
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 1: hat if you see the picture, and then for him

648
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 1: to be like, no, this stuff isn't racist, Like he's

649
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 1: clearly a racist person. If if you have racist ideology

650
00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:01,760
Speaker 1: but you're saying no, I'm not racist, you're that's almost

651
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 1: sort of acknowledging that you know racism is bad, but

652
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:07,800
Speaker 1: by being or he like knows that it's not okay

653
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 1: to be racist, but he's still flaunting this imagery. Why

654
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 1: doesn't he just come out and say yes, I am, Like,

655
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 1: why is he ashamed of it? Is there some level

656
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:22,760
Speaker 1: of sh I just don't understand this line of thinking

657
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 1: where he'd be like, you know, this isn't racist, this

658
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 1: is just history. Cannot make sense of it because I

659
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:36,760
Speaker 1: think it's basically like that's what Trump is, right, Yeah,

660
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 1: they're like, well, on the one hand, he's lying, but

661
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 1: on the other hand, his supporters are saying this, and

662
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 1: it's just like, I think racists just need to out

663
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 1: themselves as racists openly that we know I mean, but

664
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 1: then you get punched in the face, and they don't

665
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:57,840
Speaker 1: want that to happen. Maybe, yeah, maybe this guy just

666
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 1: doesn't want to get punched by still punch, I'll punch.

667
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 1: I'll go with the des moin right now, and I

668
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 1: should leave. All right, let's take another break. We'll be

669
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 1: back to talk about Cats, which is what you're all

670
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:26,359
Speaker 1: here for anyways. And we're back, and Cats has come out.

671
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 1: It is apparently, uh so the one. I'll give you

672
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 1: two reviews. I don't want to spoil anything, but one

673
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 1: person said is too horny for its own good. I

674
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 1: don't think it's possible in my life that I could

675
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 1: definitely say I could apply that too. And then a

676
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 1: furry said somebody who identifies as a fairy said, furries

677
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 1: wants something they can fuck fab two. Cats movie is

678
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:04,319
Speaker 1: not that damn right, So yeah, to horny or not

679
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 1: horny enough. The ballet aspects are a display of human

680
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 1: beauty and movement and form. If you see g I

681
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 1: that it'll be trashy. Also, Cats is not a particularly

682
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 1: comfortable watch to begin with. It's meant to be like

683
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 1: well Cats, Uh well, first of all, I would be

684
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 1: remiss not to mention Um that cats as as an

685
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:32,759
Speaker 1: animal have eight nipples, and that's cat facts with Caitlin. Yes,

686
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 1: if you don't know what I'm talking about, I'm so

687
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 1: sorry to say that, but it's true cat facts. Uh,

688
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 1: don't lie. So cats have eight nipples or some other

689
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 1: number of nipples, depending on the cat. Now, yeah, how

690
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 1: about just one nipple. They probably don't have just one

691
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 1: nipple unless they got in an accident. Um, there's not

692
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 1: a uniform number of cat nipples. So of them have, yeah, fewer,

693
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 1: some of them have up to I think ten. How

694
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 1: about that? Yeah, I just I guess depends on the

695
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:12,399
Speaker 1: kittie cat facts, but I think the average is eight.

696
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 1: So that's what I stick with. Um. Now, the problem,

697
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 1: the main problem with this film Cats is that the anatomy.

698
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 1: The anatomy is extremely inaccurate. Now we see some of

699
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 1: like the Taylor Swift, we see Rebel uh Wilson, like

700
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:36,360
Speaker 1: they Jennifer Hudson, all these paper really in this moment

701
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 1: elbows and this and as we talked about earlier in

702
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 1: the week and our most important news up to this story,

703
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 1: they had to see g I his dick out because

704
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 1: it was so prominent. Jason druelo. Wow, so they didn't

705
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Speaker 1: have the all the dicks, just his, just his, that's

706
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 1: his claim, Okay, Jason, Now okay, So for the women

707
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 1: playing the cat roles they have, we see them have

708
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 1: like breast lumps, but only two of them. So if

709
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 1: you're gonna make an anatomically accurate Cats movie, there should

710
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 1: be eight breasted cats. I think you are expressing the

711
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 1: problem that the ferry head because says we want something

712
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 1: we can fox fab two, but then immediately says it's

713
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 1: about expressing the beauty of the human form, not the cat,

714
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 1: right we so we need to to bad it. We

715
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:41,359
Speaker 1: need to be sexualizing cats. That's about I mean, we're

716
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 1: gonna start, might as well go all the way. The

717
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:46,839
Speaker 1: beautiful act of cats making love to one another, as

718
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:52,400
Speaker 1: we all know, the beautiful sound and tender love making

719
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 1: that happens between two alley cats, the original cats. That's

720
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:06,360
Speaker 1: such a complicated, fraught relationship with this. I p because

721
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:08,759
Speaker 1: you know we were talking about Avatar, right, Avatar was

722
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:11,319
Speaker 1: this giant thing, but now we ain't got to think

723
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:14,279
Speaker 1: about it ever again. I was hoping Cats was like

724
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:16,360
Speaker 1: this because it terrified me when I was a child,

725
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,279
Speaker 1: because you would only ever see like I would only

726
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 1: ever see like commercials for it in the middle of ship.

727
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 1: They didn't have anything to do with that, And I'm like,

728
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:28,879
Speaker 1: what the fund is that it looks weird and ship?

729
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:31,799
Speaker 1: Did you ever see it? No? I never would have,

730
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 1: and I would hope. I hoped. What I hoped is

731
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 1: that the opportunity would never even arise for me to

732
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:41,880
Speaker 1: see anything like this. And now that it's back, and

733
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:44,360
Speaker 1: now that it's done in this way, there's provocative. Everybody's

734
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 1: talking about it. It's only one of my worst nightmares.

735
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 1: So the more I learned about Cats, the stranger it

736
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 1: got because the so there's no story, there's no story,

737
00:48:56,520 --> 00:49:00,319
Speaker 1: like it's just a series of songs tied together by

738
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:03,280
Speaker 1: the premise that like one of the cats is dying,

739
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 1: but it's like very vague. The main attraction. One of

740
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:10,839
Speaker 1: the big innovations. Sorry, I get choked up when one

741
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 1: of the big innovations of Cats the musical is that

742
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:18,880
Speaker 1: they come out into the audience. Yes, they come out

743
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:21,799
Speaker 1: into the audience and like, crawl over you. Everything that

744
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 1: I was afraid of is real, right exactly, It's exactly

745
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:28,720
Speaker 1: as terrifying as you thought it was. So Tom Hooper,

746
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 1: who made The King Speech an Academy Award winning film. Yes,

747
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 1: I still yes, I would rank that as last on

748
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 1: my Star Wars movie. Wait, okay, isn't the story And

749
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 1: I've never seen the stage production of Cats, but what

750
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:52,919
Speaker 1: I'm gathering from the trailers for the movie is that

751
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:56,840
Speaker 1: Judy Dench cat Um has to pick. She gets to

752
00:49:56,880 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 1: pick someone just the best cat. Ian McKellen is as well.

753
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 1: Uh so Judy Dench Cat is like, Hey, one of

754
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 1: you gets to live a new life, and I am

755
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:13,360
Speaker 1: choosing which of which cat of you? Like cluster of

756
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 1: clatter I think of Alley cats Um gets to I

757
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 1: don't know if it's like a nine Lives kind of

758
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 1: thing where they're all about to die and then like

759
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 1: one of them gets to be reborn or like just

760
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 1: gets to keep living. That's what I'm Please listeners, correct

761
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:33,240
Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong, or let me know what the

762
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:35,279
Speaker 1: the loose premise of this thing is here. But yeah,

763
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:38,239
Speaker 1: we're talking about rum Tum tugger. What we're talking about,

764
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 1: Mr must We wouldn't say, yes, Jelly low rum Rum

765
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 1: who sounds very sexy doing it from Skimble Shakes. That

766
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 1: one sounds like a disease. That sounds like, yeah, it

767
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:58,839
Speaker 1: sounds like something you get if your chicken pox come back.

768
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 1: I got some skimble Shanks and my my hips car

769
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 1: Bucket so grittlebone. These are all kind of names, yes,

770
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 1: or Blue Singers, Ruffle Ruffle, Teaser and Buster for Jones.

771
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 1: That's the hell of a name, Buster Jones. That is yeah,

772
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 1: these are all cats who are eligible to die or something.

773
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:28,879
Speaker 1: And then Judy Den it's about an afterlife, right, like

774
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 1: one of the cats dies in a sense to the afterlife.

775
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 1: It's basically the series lost right, Lost is based on cats. Cats. Um,

776
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:42,919
Speaker 1: so that's the general premise from what I gather. But yeah,

777
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:45,720
Speaker 1: I don't think there's there's not really a story. James

778
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:50,880
Speaker 1: Corton's just sort of like bouncing around. He looks he

779
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 1: looks like he was born to where this cost. I agree, yeah,

780
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 1: like it's he's the one. I like the whole trailer.

781
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:01,359
Speaker 1: I was like, what the fuck is going on here?

782
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:03,239
Speaker 1: And then he shut up and I was like, okay o,

783
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:05,879
Speaker 1: that's this all makes sense what people have been talking

784
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:08,840
Speaker 1: for a while about, how like weird the just the

785
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 1: imagery is of the cat. But like, I think the

786
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 1: worst part about it is that they don't have cat noses.

787
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 1: They just have human noses. If they had just done

788
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:19,240
Speaker 1: a little bit of makeup and made them have little

789
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:22,399
Speaker 1: cat noses, I think it would be far better than

790
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:26,239
Speaker 1: what it is. But because we have human noses, but

791
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 1: then these like cat ears and like fur bodies, it's

792
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 1: just there's so much dissonance. I think I figured it out. Yeah,

793
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:37,279
Speaker 1: they put out the trailer to start the uproar um.

794
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 1: Now you have to start to add the nipples and

795
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 1: nose this movement. So they'll change it, like the Sonic

796
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 1: movie they did. They did change it. That's what they've

797
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:48,919
Speaker 1: been doing. So they did the premiere the other night

798
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 1: and Tom Hooper, the director, said he had been working

799
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 1: on the movie up until like the previous morning, and

800
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:02,320
Speaker 1: he finished, he put the finishing touches on it. After

801
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 1: a thirty six hour long work session. They were still

802
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:10,160
Speaker 1: c G I NG. So this is what's strange to me.

803
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 1: So like you look at that and you're like, oh,

804
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 1: it's a bunch of actors in bad cat costumes. Yeah

805
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 1: it is not. Those are actors who did mo cap.

806
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 1: They were in motion capture, like with the little lightbulbs

807
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 1: on them, and then they c g ied shitty cat

808
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:32,799
Speaker 1: costumes onto them, and that is what they were adjusting

809
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 1: because people were like, no, it looks bad and so

810
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 1: uh they were adjusting the shitty cat costume. C G.

811
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:46,239
Speaker 1: I sup, I think this weekend to see it on

812
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:49,839
Speaker 1: Friday morning. I'm I'm going to be first in mind

813
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 1: to see that morning and you're seeing Star Wars tonight. Yeah.

814
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:58,319
Speaker 1: So I keep up to date with my movies that

815
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 1: I can't wait till coming out. Hear from you on Yeah,

816
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 1: I'll text you first thing. Do you do drugs? No,

817
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:09,799
Speaker 1: I'm extremely bad at drugs. I can't even smoke weed

818
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 1: without having a panic attacks. You're gonna go see Catch

819
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:17,319
Speaker 1: Friday Stone sober. Sober, I will not pull a jack

820
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 1: and get drunk. Uh, you should definitely drink. By the way,

821
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 1: getting a panic attack never stopped me from smoking weeds.

822
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:32,400
Speaker 1: I continued to smoke weed despite the fact that it

823
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 1: gave me a panic attack because I wanted to be cool. Cool. Yeah.

824
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:42,880
Speaker 1: So just a thing about me was one of my

825
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 1: chest was imploding, and I was certain everybody was thinking

826
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 1: about the fact that I hadn't talked the home, that

827
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 1: I had my hands in my pocket, even though I

828
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:59,719
Speaker 1: was sitting down. Uh, some of the journalists at the

829
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:03,360
Speaker 1: premier you liked the movie one? Uh yeah, okay, we

830
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:06,440
Speaker 1: already talked about to Horny for its own good. We

831
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 1: we have not released the embargo on Miles. Miles. Mom

832
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 1: is a film critic and she gave what my favorite

833
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 1: review of a movie I've ever heard. But we will

834
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:23,880
Speaker 1: we will reveal that after her review was published. Um,

835
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 1: that's it great. I I I'm so excited to see it.

836
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:31,359
Speaker 1: I mean in a in a way that I know

837
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 1: it's going to be an absolute train wreck and I

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Speaker 1: I wanna talk about Survivor. I guess Survivor season finale

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Speaker 1: happened last night post the recording of this show. But

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Speaker 1: yesterday they finally made a statement about their policy around

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Speaker 1: uh sexual harassment that happened on the island. So a

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Speaker 1: woman was sexually harassed by um middle aged too elderly

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Speaker 1: contestant who kept like putting his head on her lap

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Speaker 1: and just doing like things that were uncomfortable and like

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Speaker 1: stroking her hair and like uh putting his arm around

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Speaker 1: her when they were like sleeping on the beach and

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Speaker 1: just very uncomfortable things. Uh, And she asked the producers

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Speaker 1: negatively impact her chances to win the game. Still, the

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Speaker 1: producers talked to the group as a whole about personal

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Speaker 1: boundaries and issued the harasser a formal warning. So the

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Speaker 1: woman who was being harassed Kelly Kim uh, and the

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Speaker 1: harasser is a forty eight year old Hollywood talent manager

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Speaker 1: named Dan Spielouh. So the producers issued him a formal warning.

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Speaker 1: Then Kelly Kim bonded with two other women who told

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Speaker 1: her they had had similar apperiences with Spiela. The three

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Speaker 1: of them relayed this information to Janet. It was one

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Speaker 1: of Dan Spielo's allies. And then responding to these allegations

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Speaker 1: who was voted off that week? Y Kelly Kim. Turns

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Speaker 1: out those other two women were fucking live. They're essentially

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Speaker 1: making Danna so they could take Kim out. Oh my yeah,

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Speaker 1: and they so they weaponized the fact that she had

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Speaker 1: And it's furious also that that Kelly Kim I thought

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Speaker 1: like talked to her producers about it. She her thinking

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Speaker 1: that that would hurt her chances on the show. That

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Speaker 1: is incredibly I mean, I understand like being in that position,

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Speaker 1: but the fact that that's something she had to worry

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Speaker 1: about is also mind bogglingly and just like horrendously upsetting,

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Speaker 1: and that she should have had to worry about because

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Speaker 1: then it was used as like a yeah, it's a

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Speaker 1: it's a great metaphor for why a lot of women

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Speaker 1: feel like they can't come forward with exactly, especially when

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Speaker 1: there was other women like teaming up against pretending to

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Speaker 1: be her ally and then like using that as ammunition

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Speaker 1: to get rid of her. Oh, I hate did they?

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Speaker 1: So they just didn't believe her, or they did believe

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Speaker 1: her and just didn't care to believe He didn't care,

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Speaker 1: I think the sense I get. At the next tribal council,

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Speaker 1: Dan gave a shitty half apology and asked Jeff Probs,

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Speaker 1: the host of Survivor, to just let it go. Um.

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Speaker 1: But because now now that it has become a public thing,

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Speaker 1: he is issued a more thorough apology that he is

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Speaker 1: sorry if his actions made anyone feel uncomfortable. So oh

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Speaker 1: he so, I mean all good? Uh, water under the bridge.

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Speaker 1: I want to go to his house also and punch him.

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Speaker 1: And there's a lot of people I need to punch.

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Speaker 1: A lot of punching needs to go on in this world.

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Speaker 1: Jeff Probes didn't interview following the episode where he called

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Speaker 1: the show a microcosm of our real world. Uh cool,

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Speaker 1: but I mean true, but also not good, Like you

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Speaker 1: shouldn't funk somebody out of a million dollars because they

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Speaker 1: were sexually harassed. Like uh, and she was like, hey,

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Speaker 1: you know, I mean this is what's great about the show.

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Speaker 1: This is why people watch him a right, folks. Anyways,

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Speaker 1: ladies in Germ's I've been Jeff. Uh yeah, but the

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Speaker 1: producers could have just put a stop to it. Instead,

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Speaker 1: they let it all play out. The actual victim ended

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Speaker 1: up being punished, and so Yesterday's CBS issued a statement

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Speaker 1: congratulating themselves for even addressing it in the first and

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Speaker 1: then saying they were going to change their policy slightly

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Speaker 1: going forward, where like they wouldn't let somebody be sexually

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Speaker 1: harassed what feminist icons. Yes they are. I mean they've

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Speaker 1: been great since Uh you know with what was there

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Speaker 1: fucking lesson Les Moon Bass see Uh, sixty minutes was

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Speaker 1: apparently just a fucking nightmare of sexual harassment. Um yeah,

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Speaker 1: so this this is why I have no faith in humanity? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean and rightly, rightly so apparently. Anyways, tune into

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Speaker 1: Survivor to see who. I guess I haven't last night?

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Speaker 1: Who gives a ship like? Yeah? I just wanted to

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Speaker 1: end on a happy note. Let me try to find one. Uh,

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Speaker 1: it's been a pleasure of having it. That has been

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Speaker 1: so much fun. Yeah, what a great guest. Where can

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Speaker 1: people find you? Follow you on the Twitter machine at

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Speaker 1: Mike Underscore Eagle and I put everything there. I tell

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Speaker 1: portal to all the other important matters. And is there

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Speaker 1: a tweet you've been enjoying? Oh? Is there a tweet

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Speaker 1: but I guess that's kind of antithetical to the good

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Speaker 1: note thing. Scott Adams, I don't know if y'all saw silber.

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Speaker 1: This is like this is some day late last week

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Speaker 1: when like impeachment got real and Scott Adams tweets I

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Speaker 1: have never literally hated my government before today. This is

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Speaker 1: new amazing. Yeah, this is as as as bad as

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Speaker 1: a guest there treating this guy never never once before ever,

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Speaker 1: this is new for him the government. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: when you've got a deliberate shaped pull out back, looks

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Speaker 1: slightly different to you. Caitlin, It's been great having you

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Speaker 1: as special guest co host. Where can people find you?

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Speaker 1: Follow you? You can find me on Twitter and Instagram

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Speaker 1: at Caitlin Durante. You can check out the Bectel Cast,

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Speaker 1: where Jamie Loftus and I plus guests analyze movies from

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Speaker 1: a feminist perspective, dismantling one movie at a time. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and uh, I teach screenwriting classes online. If you're interested

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Speaker 1: in that, go to my website Caitlin dot com. Check

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Speaker 1: it out for more info. Uh, you've been joining. This

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Speaker 1: comes from a comedian hall of mine at Kai Choice.

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Speaker 1: The tweet is if the Cats movie doesn't have anyone

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Speaker 1: using a laptop as a chair, I don't want to

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Speaker 1: see it. That's a really good, good point. Laptop Well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean that is another thing. They were spending a

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Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Like everything you say makes me more scarped. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Dani Schwartz tweeted, I feel like if you told a

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Speaker 1: by sending you individual DVDs in the actual male, they

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Speaker 1: would think you were making it up as a joke.

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Speaker 1: I believe that's true. I think they would. And anahosnie

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Speaker 1: Uh that anahosnie A, she's a she's a riot? What

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Speaker 1: a treat. You find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore

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Speaker 1: O Brian. You find us on Twitter at daily Zeitgeis.

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Speaker 1: Were at the Daily Zeitgeis on Instagram. We have Facebook

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Speaker 1: off nice to our the information that we talked about

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Speaker 1: in today's episode, as well as the song we ride

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Speaker 1: out on. There's been some issues with footnotes as of late,

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Speaker 1: but we are fixing them so they are fixed. Hell yeah,

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Speaker 1: last um anagram. Someone just tweeted this at me. It's

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Speaker 1: on Hosnie, what are we going to ride out on today?

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Speaker 1: In honor of our guest, I am recommending a song

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Speaker 1: by him. This is a song that me and my

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Speaker 1: as you all know, he doesn't let me touch the

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Speaker 1: dial our house. So this is called very Much Money

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Speaker 1: by Open Mike Ego. Please enjoy it. Go listen to

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Speaker 1: his music, guys. It's like it's true. It's we chill

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Speaker 1: and we just your music actually chills me out good. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: We're like so yeah, enjoy that and thanks food and show,

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Speaker 1: thanks for having me. These guys is a production by

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Speaker 1: to your favorite shows. That's gonna do it for today, guys.

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Speaker 1: We are gonna be at sketch Fest January eight pm,

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Speaker 1: in the foot note. Well, anyways, that's gonna do it

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Speaker 1: for today. We will be back this afternoon to tell

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Speaker 1: you what's trending, and then tomorrow with another podcast, we'll

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