1 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: It's now officially open. This is draft season. Welcome everybody. 2 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:14,319 Speaker 2: We head into about a quarter of the way through 3 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 2: the college football season, John Smoke, Tony Pauline from Sports 4 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:19,960 Speaker 2: Keda as usual, and we welcome in our first guest 5 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:22,920 Speaker 2: since the season began, our good friend from The Athletic 6 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 2: Dane Brugler, author of The Beast and past and podcast host. 7 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 2: And I guess it's not really a new podcast, Dan, 8 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 2: and it's a reborn podcast, Building the Beast with Dave Hellman. 9 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, part of the Athletic Football Show podcast. Yeah, we 10 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 3: kind of were really leaning into The Beast and kind 11 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 3: of giving people a sneak peek of what goes into 12 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 3: it and all the conversations we're having about these players. 13 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 4: So yeah, that's weekly. 14 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 3: It goes up every Wednesday, So hopefully people are checking 15 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 3: that out. 16 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, they should go check it. Dave's awesome. 17 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 2: We had him on the Giant Tuddle a couple weeks 18 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 2: ago leading up to the Cowboys game. 19 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: He should be Everyone should go check that out. 20 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 2: Gentlemen, Let's talk about the games this week, and one 21 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 2: game we thought was going to be great in the 22 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 2: Big Ten was Indiana and Illinois ends up being a Laugher. 23 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 2: I put that game on at halftime and I turned 24 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 2: it right off. Tony, start with you, what'd you think 25 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 2: of that game and what kind of either surprise you 26 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 2: about it or or kind of kind of motivated you 27 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 2: to be like, Wow, that's a pretty impressive job by Indiana. 28 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 5: Yeah. 29 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 6: Well, we previewed this game last week and we said 30 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 6: that this game was sort of a stepping stone or 31 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 6: could be a stepping stone for Indiana quarterback Fernando Mendoza, 32 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 6: And it was exactly that. Now Illinois was without Xavier Scott, 33 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 6: their top or one of their top defensive backs, and 34 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 6: then Miles Scott, the safety, got booted because of a 35 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 6: targeting call. But I mean, you know, you said you 36 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 6: turned it off at halftime, and Dooza's numbers at halftime 37 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 6: were fifteen of seventeen passing, two hundred and twenty yards 38 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 6: and four tds in the first half. It was a 39 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 6: pretty simple I was impressed with Mendoza. It was a 40 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 6: pretty simple game plan. There was a lot of short passes, 41 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 6: a lot of receiver screens, a lot of that yardage 42 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 6: was won after the catch, but he got the job done. 43 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 6: I didn't see a lot of difficult throws. We know 44 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 6: he can make those difficult throws. Obviously, I don't think 45 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:18,359 Speaker 6: anybody expected Indiana to go in and blow blowing Illinois 46 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:20,919 Speaker 6: out the way they did. They're an incredibly well coached team. 47 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 6: I've said on the show before, I think Kurt Signetti 48 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:27,399 Speaker 6: is the best coach in America, college or pro, and 49 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 6: people are excited for Mendoza because now he's going to 50 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 6: get the coach the Signetti coaching. I thought it was 51 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 6: an outstanding performance. I didn't think he made many difficult 52 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 6: NFL type passes. But you know, their game plan worked 53 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 6: early and don't fix what ain't broke. That seemed to 54 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 6: be their mindset throughout all four quarters. 55 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 2: You know, it's funny we did not compare notes on 56 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 2: this game before we started, and Dane put up a 57 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 2: Fernando Mendoza article up on the Athletic this morning, and Dane, 58 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 2: it wasn't word for word, but it's pretty much the 59 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 2: same thing that Tony gave on on Mendoza did in 60 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:02,799 Speaker 2: that game. And I think he's what your twentyeh rated 61 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:03,679 Speaker 2: prospect right now. 62 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, he started the season at number twenty overall, and 63 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 3: that's like I think Tony hit the nail on the head, 64 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 3: like nothing happened in this game that I think will 65 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 3: drastically change your opinion of Mendoza coming out. 66 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 4: I mean, he was terrific. 67 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 3: He finished ninety one percent completions, five touchdowns. He now 68 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 3: has fourteen touchdowns this year, leads the FBS. Still no interceptions. 69 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 3: And it's not that you know, we're throwing cold water 70 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 3: on the on the praise, because Mendoza certainly deserves it. 71 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 3: But he had one pass attempt over twenty yards and 72 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 3: it was incomplete. Seventeen of his twenty one completions were 73 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 3: under ten yards. But at the same time, you know, 74 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 3: what's the job of a quarterback. It's to take what 75 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 3: the defense gives you, move the sticks, put points on 76 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 3: the board, don't make mistakes. That's exactly what Fernando Mendoza 77 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 3: did in this game. So he certainly deserves praise for that. 78 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 3: I was, I think most impressed with the way he 79 00:03:56,240 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 3: handled pressure, whether you know it's against the blitz, especially 80 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 3: down on the red zone when things get a lot 81 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 3: more condensed, it's easy for quarterbacks to get a little antsy. 82 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 3: He was terrific in those situations. He's so smart pre 83 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 3: snaff he understands, Okay, they're gonna blitz me, it's coming 84 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 3: from here. This is where the vulnerable matchup could be 85 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 3: in coverage. He understands where that's coming from. I mean, 86 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 3: that's that's like you know, Tony mentioned, that's that's coaching. 87 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 3: A lot of the preparation that goes into this, but 88 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 3: a lot of it's on the quarterback that in the 89 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 3: moment execute and that's what he did so terrific against 90 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 3: the blitz. Showed his poise, his accuracy. 91 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:35,599 Speaker 4: He's not an elite physical talent. 92 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 3: The size is good, but the arm strength and mobility 93 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 3: it's more good than great. And sometimes that'll pop up. 94 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 3: But in a game like this where he just got 95 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 3: the ball out of his hands, found the open, open player, 96 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 3: I mean, he was terrific. 97 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 2: No question about it. I want to jump to Oklahoma 98 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 2: and Auburn here. By the way, kudos to myself are 99 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 2: not calling him Ramiro Mendoza, former Yankees relief betcher, because 100 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 2: I've been doing that for about two months. 101 00:04:59,160 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 1: Good job, John. 102 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 5: Uh. 103 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 2: We have a bunch of Oklahoma guys in the second 104 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 2: part of the show, so we'll leave those guys alone. 105 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 2: But I know both of you guys really love the 106 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 2: Auburn offensive tackle who are kind of creeping up draft 107 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 2: boards here. How'd you think he did in that game 108 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 2: against Oklahoma, Dan, We'll start with you on this one. 109 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 4: I thought he, you know, held up pretty well. 110 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 3: Xavier Chaplain, left tackle transfer to Virginia Tech. 111 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 4: You know, he's he's a big, big. 112 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 3: Guy, and he just he does a very good job 113 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 3: staying square to rushers. And even though I think there 114 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 3: are some flexibility concerns, and you know that shows up 115 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 3: when he's trying to recover. If you stay in front 116 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 3: of your guy from the get go, you're gonna be 117 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 3: in good shape. And so he's still a young player 118 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:42,159 Speaker 3: in some of those areas, but I thought he held 119 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 3: up pretty well for most of this game. Now are 120 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 3: Mason Thomas, who had some noise in the second half 121 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 3: of this game. He missed the first half and so 122 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 3: we didn't get some of those matchups. But our Mason 123 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:54,599 Speaker 3: Thomas certainly showed up in the second half when he 124 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:57,040 Speaker 3: was back out there, so you know that. But you know, 125 00:05:57,400 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 3: I think some of that was not against Chaplin on 126 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 3: the left side. So this is a this is an 127 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 3: Auburn offensive line that is talented, but Oklahoma, they found 128 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:07,679 Speaker 3: some success, and part of that is the things Jackson 129 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 3: Arnold holds the ball way longer than you should, and 130 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 3: that's kind of the Achilles Hill with this offense. But 131 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 3: I thought Chaplain for the most part, did okay, Tony. 132 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 2: How about Chaplain for you and anyone was jump after 133 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:22,479 Speaker 2: you in that game? 134 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, I like Chaplain. 135 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 6: I thought he was okay, but he didn't look like 136 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 6: a top ten player in this game against Oklahoma. And 137 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 6: that's what I rate him as. So I guess in 138 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 6: the overall scheme, I thought he should have been a 139 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 6: little bit better. Not that I just like him, not 140 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 6: that I thought, uh, you know, he played poorly. I 141 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:44,600 Speaker 6: just was so high on him. I mean I did 142 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 6: a mock draft before the season. I had him going 143 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 6: top five. That's how highly I think of this guy, 144 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 6: going back to prior to years at Virginia Tech. Now, 145 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 6: obviously you go from Virginia Tech to Oklahoma, as you see, 146 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 6: it's going to be a step up in competition. And 147 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 6: as Dame pointed out, you know that Oklahoma front four, 148 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 6: defensive front four, they got a lot of talent. They're 149 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 6: probably mid mid round picks, day three picks, but they're 150 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 6: talented guys, and I think that, as Dan pointed out, 151 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 6: the Auburn the Auburn quarterback holds the ball a little 152 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 6: bit too long, which makes the offensive lines job that 153 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 6: much harder. I think Oklahoma's offensive line also stood up 154 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:28,239 Speaker 6: well against the Auburn pass rush. You know, Keldrick Falk 155 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 6: one sack, one tackle for loss, had some pressures, but 156 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 6: he wasn't the dominant force I think I expected him 157 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 6: to be. I thought he was going to really overmatch 158 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 6: that Sooner offensive line, and it came in spurts. I mean, 159 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 6: Oklahoma was able to move the ball down the field. 160 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 6: Robert Woodard Wooded the other pass rusher that people tend 161 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 6: to forget about. He had a solid game, but it 162 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 6: wasn't the dominant performance that I expected from either Chaplain 163 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 6: or Falk. 164 00:07:57,440 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: Where do you think of falked in? 165 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's fair. I mean with Fulk, it's 166 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 3: really the traits that you're betting on. It runs me 167 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 3: a lot of Michael Williams from last year coming out 168 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 3: of Georgia. Like you see the ability, you see the flashes. 169 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 3: It's just you just wanted to be more consistent. And 170 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 3: with Falk, he doesn't take over games necessarily, but you 171 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 3: will hear his name called throughout the game because he 172 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 3: is making those plays. You just wish for a guy 173 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 3: that we're talking about is maybe a top five overall pick. 174 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 3: He was a little more more dominant, especially in a 175 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 3: big game like this on the road, where you know 176 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:35,959 Speaker 3: your offense is struggling you as a defense, you need 177 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 3: to go make a play, and Fulk was fine. I 178 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 3: just when you look at him through the lens of 179 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:45,439 Speaker 3: a possible top five, top seven overall pick, he wasn't 180 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 3: as dominant as maybe you would like to see. 181 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:49,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, no question about it, all right, Mammy. 182 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 2: In Florida guys obviously, but Florida has their problems, especially 183 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 2: on offense right now. 184 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 1: It's been a struggle for them. Tony. Anybody jump out 185 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:58,439 Speaker 1: at you, but in this contest, no. 186 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 5: And Carsion Beck out at me. 187 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 6: You know, people are talking about him as a Heisman 188 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 6: Trophy top ten for the Heisman Trophy, an early pick. 189 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 6: I mean, I think the best thing that Carson Beck 190 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 6: did was he didn't get his team behind the eight 191 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 6: ball as he did at Georgia. I mean, he's got 192 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 6: the physical skills, but he's not a difference maker as 193 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:21,199 Speaker 6: far as I'm concerned. You know, he's a nice quarterback. 194 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 6: He's not a guy that's going to carry a team 195 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 6: on their shoulders. I think people got all excited that 196 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 6: first game against Notre Dame, where he played relatively well, 197 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:32,319 Speaker 6: but we're seeing now that you know, Notre Dame has 198 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:36,559 Speaker 6: its struggles, especially on defense. I think the big takeaway 199 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 6: for me was really Carson Beck could not put Florida 200 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 6: way until late in the game when the opportunities existed. 201 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 3: Dan, your thoughts on that game, Yeah, I mean I 202 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 3: think I echo a lot of those sentiments with Carson Beck. 203 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 3: You know, good on him for what he did in 204 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 3: the opener against Notre Dame and kind of get that 205 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 3: monkey off his back. Had to live with, you know, 206 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 3: the way things ended at Georgia, the way the season 207 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:06,319 Speaker 3: was disappointing. He had to live with that over the 208 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 3: entire offseason. You know, the elbow injury, wasn't able to 209 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 3: throw for so long. For him to go out there 210 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 3: and play like he did against Center Dame, great, that 211 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 3: was good for him. But I do think, yeah, we 212 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 3: need to pump the brakes a little bit in terms 213 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 3: of him being a top fifty type of prospect. I 214 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 3: don't think he's necessarily done anything to deserve that type 215 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 3: of praise, But I will. 216 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:26,679 Speaker 4: Say I don't know that. 217 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 3: It's gonna get all that much tougher with this ACC schedule. 218 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 3: Now they do have to go to Tallahassee here in 219 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 3: what two weeks, going to play Florida State. That'll be 220 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 3: a big game in a lot of ways. But you know, 221 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 3: just like you know, what do we say about cam 222 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 3: Ward last year? It was Okay, he's a good player, 223 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 3: but how many true challenges did he face with that 224 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 3: ACC schedule? And it'll be kind of the same thing 225 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 3: with Beck this year. That's why that game at Florida 226 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:58,559 Speaker 3: State will be so big. I'll talk more about rubyen 227 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 3: bayin a little bit later, but man, I just cannot 228 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:04,439 Speaker 3: say enough good things about the way he's played. He 229 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 3: takes over games playing simple. I mean, you cannot watch 230 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 3: the Notre Dame game, the USF game, the Florida game 231 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 3: and not notice number four because the way he affects 232 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 3: the backfield both against the run against the pass. I mean, 233 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:21,959 Speaker 3: he's number two in the entire all of college football 234 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 3: and pressures so far this year. 235 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 4: And this is this is a player who. 236 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 3: Looks like he wants to be a top ten pick 237 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 3: because that's the way he's playing. 238 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. 239 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 2: Absolutely, I'm with you, all right, final game I want 240 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 2: to touch on and this will kind of catapult us 241 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 2: into our second conversation Missoo and South Carolina. We'll get 242 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 2: to Lenora's Sellers in a second before we get him Dane. 243 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:42,959 Speaker 2: The Missouri run game has impressed me this year. They've 244 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 2: come off to a pretty fast start. Anyone else in 245 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 2: this game besides Sellers that you think is worth noting 246 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 2: in talking about. 247 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 3: I think the Missouri defensive Linzyane Young I had a 248 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 3: really good game. I than he finished with maybe just 249 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 3: one sack, but the pressure numbers were up there. I 250 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 3: mean he was affecting the back in a big way. 251 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 3: McClellan transfer from what Florida. I mean he he a 252 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 3: few times got into the backfield and made some noise. So, 253 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 3: you know, I think Missouri has always been one of 254 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 3: those teams that's kind of you know, they're knocking on 255 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 3: the door. They they've always got a few prospects, but 256 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 3: they never can just kind of break through. This feels 257 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 3: like one of their better teams this year. With the 258 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 3: way Bobula is playing, the Penn State transfer. Who you know, 259 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 3: he being a first year starter. There's gonna be mistakes, 260 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 3: and he's had some, but he can at least move 261 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 3: the offense up and down the field hardy. 262 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 4: Like you mentioned the run game. 263 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 3: He's only a true sophomore, so can't really get excited 264 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 3: about him as a prospect just yet. But this Missouri 265 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 3: team feels like they've got some guys that are gonna, 266 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 3: if not propel them to the top of the SEC 267 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 3: this year, at least make them a hard out where 268 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:54,080 Speaker 3: they're gonna be. They're gonna give whoever. They're playing a 269 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 3: tough battle each week. 270 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, very well coached team. Talked about Signetti and Indiana. 271 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 5: I think bas just they don't have stars. 272 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 6: There's no armand Membo on that depth chart this year. 273 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 6: But they're just very well coached. As far as I 274 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 6: was concerned, I like the the game Cock defensive back 275 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 6: Jalen Kilgore. Bigger guy, physical, kind of fits that mold 276 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 6: that we've seen come out of that program in the past. 277 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 6: Good ball skills, it's got NFL size, and his game 278 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:26,319 Speaker 6: is progressing. They actually have three guys, three defensive backs there, 279 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 6: but I think kil Gore has really stood out thus far, 280 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:30,719 Speaker 6: and he was he was good against Missouri. 281 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 2: All Right, we are all going to do a ton 282 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 2: on the quarterbacks today. This will be our one overarching 283 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 2: quarterback question. From everything you've seen Dane Lenora Sellers in 284 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 2: this game, he made some wow throws. Then again, he 285 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 2: had some other throws. You know, he had that you 286 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 2: know passy airmailed on that final drive, you know, trying 287 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 2: to drive down and tie or take the lead in 288 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 2: that game. But to me, of all the quarterbacks I've 289 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 2: seen and watched so far, he's still the guy that 290 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 2: that I mark and say, there's been enough wow stuff, 291 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 2: even though it's been inconsistent where to me, he's still 292 00:13:59,880 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 2: the clear leader in the clubhass year for first quarterback 293 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 2: off the board. 294 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 4: I think that's fair. 295 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's still very early, and these things that these 296 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 3: conversations can swing wildly week to week depending on how 297 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 3: these guys play, which is of course always tough because 298 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 3: you know, we want to bet on body of work 299 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 3: and trades more so than you know, the game to 300 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 3: game fluctuation. But I would agree, I mean, if take 301 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 3: arch out of it, going back to my quarterback rankings 302 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 3: over the summer based off of what I expected coming. 303 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 4: Into the year. 304 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 3: It was Leonora Seller's one, and then Garrettnsmier two, and 305 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 3: then Mendoza three, And I think so far, I'm not 306 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 3: really changing that. Like I said, we're taking Arch out 307 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 3: of the conversation for now, those three quarterbacks, I think 308 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 3: in that order, I'm comfortable with that. At this point, 309 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 3: Sellers just gives you so much dual threat ability. He's 310 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 3: so young for a player that is still just twenty 311 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 3: years old and just turn twenty like he's he's a 312 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 3: young player who's still figuring things out, throws should and 313 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 3: shouldn't make. He had that three play sequence was the 314 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 3: second quarter where drove him down scored a touchdown in 315 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 3: some really impressive passes. What he does on the move, 316 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 3: the way he can change platforms and create out a structure, 317 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 3: it is really impressive. And then I it sounds hyperbolic, 318 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 3: but he might be the strongest quarterback I've ever evaluated. 319 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 3: And that's with all due respect to Jalen Hurts and 320 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 3: Cam Newton. And I mean, he is so powerful as 321 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 3: a runner, and that dual threat. 322 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 4: Ability wears you a little bit. 323 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 3: He's already been banged up a little bit this year, 324 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 3: So can you stay healthy the rest of the way? 325 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 4: And you know, I just with Nil. 326 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 5: Now. 327 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 3: It really makes these quarterback decisions about whether to go 328 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 3: back to school come out early. It really clouds those 329 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 3: decisions because he'll be able to go back to South 330 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 3: Carolina and get paid if he wants to if he 331 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 3: doesn't feel ready. And you know, he's only a red 332 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 3: shirt sophomore, so I wouldn't be surprised if he does 333 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 3: choose to go that route. So it does make these 334 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 3: quarterback decisions a little more murky. 335 00:15:57,640 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean listen, if you follow me on Twitter, 336 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 6: go back to August. I put out a tweet after 337 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 6: watching the South Carolina film from twenty twenty four, and 338 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 6: I said, if the draft were held today and I 339 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 6: had the top pick and I needed a quarterback, I'm 340 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 6: taking Lendora Sellers and he's not disappointed. The thing about 341 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 6: it is he makes all the throws. I mean, he 342 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 6: can power the ball through the tight windows. He gets 343 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 6: the ball through the tight spots with great speed and accuracy. 344 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 6: But as you saw study and night, he can also 345 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 6: put touch on the ball downfield. I mean he will 346 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 6: deliver it nicely, place the ball into the receiver's hands. 347 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 6: I think the other thing that you know you need 348 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 6: to talk about with Sellers is doesn't have great talents 349 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 6: around it. He doesn't have great pass catches. People talk 350 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 6: about Nick Harper, Yeah he's developing, but Harber, as far 351 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 6: as I'm concerned, is still a track and field guy 352 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 6: trying to learn the receiver position. You look at cam 353 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 6: Ward last year, you look at Shador Sanders, you know, 354 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 6: you look at Jackson Darritt. These guys had a lot 355 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 6: of talent to throw. Sellers is basically the man in 356 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 6: the South Carolina offense, and he consistently pushes them up 357 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 6: and down the field and moves the offense. There's still 358 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 6: some things in his game that he needs to iron out, 359 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 6: you know. As Dan pointed out, he's a red shirt sophomore. 360 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 6: I love his game. I love his upside. Dane talked 361 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:10,160 Speaker 6: about how strong is I mean he's not only strong 362 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:12,199 Speaker 6: like he's got a strong build. I mean he's a 363 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:14,160 Speaker 6: guy who will be able to with stand the pressure, 364 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 6: with stand the rush and get the pass off with 365 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:19,679 Speaker 6: defenders draped on it and make good passes. Listen, we 366 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 6: talked about him two weeks ago, John and I used 367 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:26,400 Speaker 6: my number one quarterback. I think again, as Dan pointed out, 368 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 6: there's ways to go. But I said in August he 369 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 6: would be the first pick in the draft. I say today, 370 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 6: September twenty third, I still think he's the first pick 371 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 6: of the draft. 372 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 2: Now, you guys have a much more complete, thorough and 373 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 2: historical knowledge of the draft than I do. But I 374 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:43,959 Speaker 2: feel like, at this point in the process, guys, this 375 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:47,399 Speaker 2: is a much more unsettled class than we're usually looking at. 376 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 1: And I'll put it to you this way, and I 377 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 1: want to get your guys take on this. 378 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 2: At this point last year, I think we all felt 379 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 2: pretty darn good about Travis Hunter being a top five, 380 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 2: top ten pick. We thought pretty good at Abdul Carter 381 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 2: being a top five, top ten pick. We thought really 382 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 2: good about Will Campbell be in the top five top 383 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 2: ten pick. We knew Ashton Genty, you know, running back 384 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 2: aside was one of the top three players in this 385 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:08,199 Speaker 2: draft class. You know, Kelvin Banks is someone we had 386 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:12,640 Speaker 2: talked about. Right now, Dan, who are you confident enough 387 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 2: to say when we do this draft in April? 388 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 1: Right now? That all right? 389 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 2: I feel really good that this guy's going to be 390 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 2: a top ten pick. And he deserves to be there. 391 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 3: I think your overall point is absolutely correct. Like it's 392 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:28,479 Speaker 3: just it feels very unsettled at the top in the 393 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:32,640 Speaker 3: top ten. Part of it is the uncertainty a quarterback. Well, 394 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:35,159 Speaker 3: I mean, I agree with about Leonora Sellers. If he 395 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 3: comes out, I do think he'll be a top ten pick, 396 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:40,400 Speaker 3: but you know there's still a question marks about that. 397 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:44,160 Speaker 3: I mean, a guy like Caleb Downs is you can 398 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 3: make an argument as the best player in the country, 399 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:49,639 Speaker 3: but you know, we don't see safeties go that early. 400 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 3: That's just the NFL has told us loud and clear 401 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 3: how they feel about drafting safeties, and Caleb Downs is 402 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 3: not ed. 403 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:55,400 Speaker 1: Reed. 404 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 3: He's not a guy that consistently takes the ball away. 405 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 3: He's more of a guy that will play closer to 406 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 3: the line of scrimmage and you can man him up 407 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:05,680 Speaker 3: as a nickel and he can cover, but he doesn't 408 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:08,159 Speaker 3: play He's not gonna play deep. That's not what he 409 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:10,640 Speaker 3: does in the Ohio State defense. So the Caleb Down 410 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 3: I mean, it shouldn't shock anybody if Caleb Downs is 411 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:15,640 Speaker 3: the eleventh overall pick, right, even though he could argue 412 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 3: he's top three player. You know, same thing with Kyle 413 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:21,679 Speaker 3: Hamilton was he was coming out, So Caleb Downs is 414 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:23,439 Speaker 3: a tough guy to talk about in terms of is 415 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:26,360 Speaker 3: he a lock top ten pick? I think Peter Woods, 416 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 3: even though he has not lit it up by any 417 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 3: means over the first few weeks that Clempson defense as 418 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 3: a whole has been disappointing. 419 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 4: TJ. 420 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 3: Parker the edge rusher has been fine, but far from 421 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:41,160 Speaker 3: great or what you would expect from a top ten pick. 422 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:44,880 Speaker 3: Peter Woods, the production isn't there necessarily for a guy 423 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 3: we thought would be a top three, top five pick, 424 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 3: But I do think that he's still making an impact, 425 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 3: and I think it's harder to find those guys, the 426 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:55,920 Speaker 3: defensive tackles, the interior defensive linemen, who have that type 427 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 3: of talent. 428 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 4: So if I had a. 429 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 3: Bet on one of these guys, I think I would 430 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 3: lean wards Peter Woods as who entered the year as 431 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 3: my number one overall player in this draft, and I 432 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 3: don't think he's lived up to that. But if I 433 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:08,159 Speaker 3: had a bet on one of these guys being a 434 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 3: top ten pick, I think it would be him. 435 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:13,920 Speaker 6: How about you, Connor, I'm gonna say I think kind 436 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 6: of to divert, but also agree with Dane. I think 437 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 6: a lot of the top ten is kind of in 438 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 6: flux because, in my opinion, Clemson has been so poor 439 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 6: this year. 440 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 5: You know, whether TJ. 441 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:25,880 Speaker 6: Parker, Antonio Williams has not played because he's been injured. 442 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:29,400 Speaker 6: You know, so I think that's that has basically said 443 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 6: it put it in flux. I absolutely agree about Cale 444 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,640 Speaker 6: Downs wrote about this, you know, right after the twenty 445 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 6: twenty five draft was over. Cale Downs is going to 446 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 6: be the best player, could be the best player entering 447 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 6: the draft. But he plays safety. But I think he's 448 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:44,880 Speaker 6: also the type of safety that in my opinion, he's 449 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 6: Brian Branch squared. If you know what, if you get 450 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 6: my draft, I mean he can do a lot more 451 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:51,880 Speaker 6: things than Brian Branch late second round pick who's having 452 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 6: great success with the Detroit Lions. I would put Keldrick 453 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 6: Fwalk in there, even though he's disappointed me. I think 454 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:02,439 Speaker 6: the explome he shows, the versatility, He's not just an 455 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 6: edge rusher. You can drop him up with wana scrimmage. 456 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:06,920 Speaker 6: He makes plays in pursuit. I think he's going to 457 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,920 Speaker 6: be a top ten pick. You know, my heart says 458 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:13,160 Speaker 6: Xavier Chaplain, but my head says, well, let's just wait 459 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 6: and see how the rest of the season plays out. 460 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:17,639 Speaker 6: So I would go absolutely with Sellers. I would go 461 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 6: at Caleb Downs, and I throw Keldrick Falk in there 462 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 6: as three guys right now that I see as potential 463 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 6: definite top ten picks in twenty twenty six. 464 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,959 Speaker 3: All Right, more guys, I would go in there. Spencer 465 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,639 Speaker 3: Fano from Utah. I would throw him in there as well, 466 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:35,439 Speaker 3: as a guy that I think I want to get 467 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:37,119 Speaker 3: him to see him to get stronger, especially in the 468 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 3: run game against Texas Tech, which is a great I 469 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:44,239 Speaker 3: think barometer for those Utah tackles over the weekend. It 470 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 3: wasn't perfect by any means, but I think he has 471 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 3: done enough where you're excited about what he's going to 472 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 3: look like in two years and three years. And so 473 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 3: I think Spencer Fano is a Utah right tackle. He 474 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,359 Speaker 3: would be in that conversation for me to be a 475 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 3: top ten pick when you stack it. I'm just not 476 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,959 Speaker 3: seeing nine players better than him so far for next 477 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 3: year's class. 478 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, Danil, you absolutely beat me to the punch. Al Tony, 479 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 2: I throw it back to you and you mentioned chaplain 480 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 2: offensive tackle could end up being the best position in 481 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:14,439 Speaker 2: this group. What other tackle should we be keeping an 482 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 2: eye on that could try to push their way into 483 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 2: that top ten. We all know how needy the NFL 484 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 2: is trying to find offensive tackles that can start. 485 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,640 Speaker 6: You know, potentially Kayden Proctor of Alabama, maybe the next 486 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 6: JC Latham. I think the guy plays on the left 487 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 6: side in college is going to be a good right 488 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 6: tackle fundamentally sound, plays with great pad level moves, relatively well, 489 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 6: and he's a mountain of a man. 490 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:36,880 Speaker 5: Magoa of Miami. 491 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 6: I don't think he's a top ten pick, but I 492 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 6: think he could be a top twenty pick, maybe a 493 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 6: top fifteen pick. He's an athletic right tackle. Fano the 494 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 6: other kid from Utah kleb Lamou, who plays on the 495 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 6: left side, it's gotta get a little bit Bigger's got to 496 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:53,360 Speaker 6: get a little bit stronger, but has those traits. Keep 497 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 6: an eye on Ryan Bear of Pittsburgh, their tackle. He 498 00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 6: is a big, athletic guy that has just played better 499 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 6: and better and better. He is a fourth year junior. 500 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:07,360 Speaker 6: I'm pretty sure, you know, barring injuries, very much, very 501 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,880 Speaker 6: likely to enter the draft. A lot of people don't 502 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 6: talk about him, but I have again, not a top 503 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 6: ten pick on him. Uh, top ten player, but my 504 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 6: mind a guy who will battle to be a late 505 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 6: first round pick. 506 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 2: Dan, you mentioned that Texas Tech Utah game. Anyone else 507 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 2: jumped out at you in that contest? 508 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 3: I think, uh, the we talked about the Utah tackles, 509 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,680 Speaker 3: but the defensive line for Texas Tech. You know, they 510 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 3: were a big reason why the Red Raiders came away 511 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 3: with that win. You know, they all they're all transfers 512 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 3: in Romelo Heights and Bailey on the edges, he's so 513 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,880 Speaker 3: excited now. I do worry about him being too much 514 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 3: of a one trick pony where speed burst off the edge, 515 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 3: it's it's explosive. You know that will there's a place 516 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 3: fat in the NFL. But do you have to hide 517 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:58,920 Speaker 3: him a little bit versus the run? Do you can 518 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 3: he be a true every down player? Those are some 519 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 3: of the questions I have with Bailey. But again, you're 520 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:07,400 Speaker 3: just not gonna find many guys that have that type 521 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 3: of burst off the edge. The guys on the interior 522 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:13,119 Speaker 3: were awesome, so I mean Rodriguez, a linebacker, had at 523 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 3: an outstanding game. So that Texas Tech defense and obviously 524 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:17,919 Speaker 3: not what you think about when you think of the 525 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:21,440 Speaker 3: Red Raiders historically, but they've really invested on that side 526 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 3: of the ball and it showed big time in that win, 527 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 3: and it's past due. We talk about Texas Tech as 528 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 3: being a true contender for the playoffs because of the 529 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:34,639 Speaker 3: way they can win in the Big twelve and in 530 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 3: the way that they could make some noise down the stretch. 531 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 5: Yeah. 532 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:41,399 Speaker 6: Dante Balfour, the cornerback, the Charlotte transfer. From Charlotte, He's 533 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 6: got excellent size, he splashed some ball skills. I thought 534 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 6: he played exceptionally well against Utah. You know, you mentioned 535 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,439 Speaker 6: that defensive line, all his transfers. Lee Hunter, the Central 536 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 6: Florida transfer, who was a good player at UCF. I mean, 537 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 6: he was a consistent player, had a lot of good 538 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 6: moments in that game. 539 00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 1: All Right, So let's get to exercise. 540 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 2: And the reason I kind of put the show together 541 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 2: this way is that we talk about it being an 542 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 2: unsettled draft class, which means there's gonna be a lot 543 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 2: of opportunities for players to kind of step up, break 544 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 2: out of maybe what the picture we've put on them 545 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,119 Speaker 2: over the course of the summer and last season and 546 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 2: what they've done in college so far and take a 547 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 2: step here and be a player that fights into the 548 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,679 Speaker 2: first round, maybe even fights further than that. So I 549 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 2: had Dane and Tony to get kind of one player 550 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 2: from most of these positions that they think have really 551 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 2: outplayed their preseason expectations. A couple of spots. We have 552 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 2: the same guys most of the spots. It's a little 553 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 2: bit different. I think this will be fun. But you 554 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 2: guys both have John Mattier as your quarterback. Dane, Why 555 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 2: John Mattier. 556 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that the Baker Mayfield comps feel way 557 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 3: too on the. 558 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:43,399 Speaker 4: Nose, but it kind of fits. 559 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,919 Speaker 3: I mean, guys that were overlooked out of high school, 560 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 3: transferred Oklahoma. They're short, but they're not They're they're built 561 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 3: really well, you know, a good. 562 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 4: Arm, really juiced up competitors. 563 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 3: They use any type of doubt as fuel, and they 564 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 3: just there's no doubt. Who's the leader of those all offenses. Now, 565 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 3: I think there's two many differences between these two players. 566 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 3: Baker was I think, more naturally accurate. Mattier has much 567 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 3: more twitch and is more of a dual threat weapon. 568 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 3: Now I'm very interested to see can Mattier because. 569 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:15,399 Speaker 4: He takes some hits. 570 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:19,119 Speaker 3: Can he hold up over a full SEC schedule taking 571 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,439 Speaker 3: some of those hits. I also want to see him 572 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:23,639 Speaker 3: cut down on the turnovers. He has at least one 573 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,200 Speaker 3: turnover in each of the first four games, and then 574 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 3: just be more precise with the ball placement. The accuracy 575 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 3: is what made Baker the number one overall pick that 576 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 3: year and why he's thriving right now with the Bucks. 577 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,199 Speaker 3: So Matier has got a lot of juice in his 578 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,159 Speaker 3: arm and you know, kind of throws it like a 579 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:42,400 Speaker 3: second baseman where it's just it's sometimes a side arm. 580 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:43,680 Speaker 4: It's just he gets it out. 581 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 3: Fast, you know, just maybe making sure that he's putting 582 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:52,159 Speaker 3: them showing proving the scouts he can consistently put the 583 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 3: ball where he wants. That needs to be the priority 584 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,399 Speaker 3: for him over the second half of the season. But 585 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,440 Speaker 3: I think he's what we saw in Washington State. There 586 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 3: were reasons to be excited, but also reasons to and 587 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 3: I'm not sure this is really going to work in 588 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 3: the SEC. 589 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,920 Speaker 4: So far, it has worked terrifically. 590 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,400 Speaker 3: I think he's right there in the Heisman conversation and 591 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 3: he should be mentioned as a guy in this quarterback 592 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:17,439 Speaker 3: mix that's moving up a little bit. 593 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 5: Yeah. 594 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 6: First thing is kudos to Jim Nagy, right, a friend 595 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:24,119 Speaker 6: of all of us, going to Oklahoma and bringing a 596 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,880 Speaker 6: guy like John Mattier in. I agree with the accuracy part, 597 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 6: and we've talked about it on this show before in 598 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 6: the past with with with John. Going back to the 599 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:34,439 Speaker 6: Michigan game, you know, you see a lot of passes. 600 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,400 Speaker 6: Receivers are leaving their feet, receivers are slowing up, adjusting 601 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 6: backwards rather than the past placement. I think those interceptions 602 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:43,679 Speaker 6: of the result in that he seems a little bit 603 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 6: late pulling the trigger, but he's answered the call and 604 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,879 Speaker 6: he's done. So, you know in big games, first against 605 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,959 Speaker 6: Michigan on a Saturday night where Oklahoma you know, just 606 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 6: dominated Michigan, and then this pass Saturday against a very 607 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:59,640 Speaker 6: good Auburn defense. So he's showing his chops, he's showing 608 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,639 Speaker 6: the ability step up in a big spot. You know, 609 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:06,119 Speaker 6: going from Washington State who last year you know, in 610 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,919 Speaker 6: the PAC two was playing in the San Diego States 611 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,920 Speaker 6: and they heard takes in the world you know now 612 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 6: in the SEC. So again from where I had him 613 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 6: UH rated coming into the season, I was kind of 614 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,360 Speaker 6: take a stand back and take a wait and see approach. 615 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 5: He's obvious. 616 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,120 Speaker 6: He's obviously answered any question that I had and has 617 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 6: exceeded him. I agree with a lot of the concerns. 618 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,119 Speaker 6: Holds the ball a little bit too long, doesn't have 619 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 6: a big physical body, you know, gets pounded. Those things 620 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:36,160 Speaker 6: are going to have to be ironed out. 621 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 2: Draft season is presented by Moody's, a proud part of 622 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 2: the New York Giants. Decoded Russ Unlock Opportunity. Learn more 623 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 2: at moodies dot com. Tony, you mentioned the big game 624 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 2: against Michigan that Materia played well. Justice hayines Michigan running back. 625 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 2: He's your running back choice here. I watched him in 626 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 2: the off season. I'm like, all right, you know, three 627 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 2: yards and a cloud of dust type of guy, grinder, 628 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 2: not very explosive. Then like he's running away from guys 629 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 2: and no one's catching him. Like he's a lot faster 630 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 2: than I thought. He was watching him off of last 631 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 2: year's tape. 632 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 6: Week after week after week, and you know, people were 633 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 6: talking about him coming out of Alabama last year where 634 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 6: he had four hundred and forty eight yards, and I 635 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 6: watched and I was like, you, okay, there's some skill there. 636 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 6: There's nothing great, but everye he's had a hundred yard 637 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 6: rushing game against every single week. Against Oklahoma, we talked 638 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 6: about earlier that Oklahoma front four, which is, you know, 639 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 6: which is pretty tough. Although Michigan's got a decent offensive line, 640 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 6: as they always do. And then this past week they 641 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 6: go into Nebraska. Nebraska lost some players on the defensive line, 642 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 6: but they got good linebackers, they got a terrific run 643 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 6: defending safety, and you know, he rushes for one hundred 644 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 6: and twenty five yards and he's exceeded my expectations. You 645 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 6: then have to factor in that Michigan can't throw the ball. 646 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 6: Michigan is not a good passing offense. Michigan had one 647 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 6: hundred and five yards passing this week against Nebraska, Justice 648 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 6: Hayes had one hundred and twenty five yards rushing. So 649 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 6: opponents they know that they can load the box and 650 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 6: challenge Michigan to beat him with the passing game, and 651 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 6: Justin Hayes is still running through him for seventy five 652 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 6: yard touchdown runs. He's explosive, he's fast, he's got a burst, 653 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 6: he can run the daylight. But he's also a relatively 654 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 6: skilled ball carrier. That can make defenders miss, and he's 655 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 6: got good signs. I mean, I thought coming into the 656 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 6: season third fourth round, but third round pick up best. 657 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,239 Speaker 6: You know, if this guy keeps this up, especially if 658 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 6: the Michigan passing. 659 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 5: Game can't, I can't kick it into gear. 660 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 6: You're going to talk about this about Justice Justice Haynes 661 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 6: as being a potential top three back for the twenty 662 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 6: twenty six Strift if he decides to go that route. 663 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 2: Dan gave me your take on Haynes, and then you 664 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 2: like Washington running back Jonah Coleman, who I watched for 665 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 2: the first time after you gave me your lesson, I'm like, Wow, 666 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 2: he's suret he's powerful, and he's got some twitch to him. 667 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, I think Haynes says he's done a 668 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 3: really nice job. There's no doubt about it. Especially you 669 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 3: know that what he did at Oklahoma, that that seventy 670 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 3: five geor Obrono's terrific. I think he's really controlled in 671 00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 3: his cuts. I like the way he drops his pads 672 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 3: at Ford the balance I think catches the ball cleanly. 673 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 3: So I he's a guy that I'm not quite as 674 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 3: high on, just because I don't necessarily see the same 675 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 3: creative athleticism. 676 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 4: I think he has the vision and the balance. 677 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 3: He's going to get what is blocked for him all day, 678 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 3: and with that Michigan offensive line, he's going to be productive. 679 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 3: But I don't necessarily see the creative athleticism that I 680 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 3: want to see for a guy that I would take 681 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 3: in the top, you know, sixty picks or so. 682 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 4: Now, I think, you know, he's still a really good player. 683 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 4: But this is a. 684 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 3: Draft that's just starving for running backs to kind of 685 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 3: break out, right. I mean, obviously we have love at 686 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 3: the top from Notre Dame, but then running back two, 687 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 3: running back three, running back four. It's wide open, and 688 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 3: Haines has certainly done enough to put himself in that conversation. 689 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 3: Whether that's the fortieth pick or the seventieth pick, you know, 690 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 3: time will tell, but it's a running back class that 691 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 3: feels very wide open. Yeah, And Jodah Coleman is a 692 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 3: player who I think has exceeded my expectations five eight, 693 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 3: two twenty seven short stocky, really dense lower half, terrific 694 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 3: power between the tackles, and I think he's showing better 695 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 3: bursts through the crease than I expected based off of 696 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 3: what I saw over the summer. He's averaging almost seven 697 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 3: yards of carry through three games, nine touchdowns, mistackles all 698 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 3: over the place, and in the vision, the jump cut 699 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 3: ability at that size, to me, he leads all running 700 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 3: backs that I've watched so far in terms of big 701 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 3: play percentage. It's about to get tougher. Ohio State goes 702 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 3: to town this week. So can Coleman keep that momentum 703 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 3: up and you know, still play at this high level 704 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 3: average over five yards of carry against his Buckeye's defense. 705 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,719 Speaker 3: If he does, it'll you know, he's played well, but 706 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 3: doing it against the team like Ohio State will certainly 707 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 3: take it a step further. 708 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 2: Tony, we had not talked about Jonah Coleman yet this year. 709 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on him? 710 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 6: Smart, instinctive, great vision, you know, being able to make 711 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 6: the defenders miss is kind of seeing the feel and 712 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 6: trying to decide what they're going to do. 713 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 5: He runs through great bounce. He's also a good blocker. 714 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 6: I mean people don't talk about that, but on those 715 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,479 Speaker 6: situations where he's going to pick up the blitz, you know, 716 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 6: he sees the blitz and he squares into the defenders. 717 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 6: I think That's another aspect of his game that NFL 718 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 6: scouts and teams are gonna like, all. 719 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 2: Right, Tony, let's go to wide receiver and we'll go 720 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 2: to Dion Burks, one of the another Oklahoma players that 721 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 2: we're gonna touch on today. 722 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 6: Yeah and again, you know, coming into the season, scouts 723 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 6: had him created as a second round as a I'm 724 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 6: sorry day two pick. Only played five games last year, 725 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 6: thirty one receptions. You know, we talked about Matier needs weapons, 726 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 6: and Dion Burks is this top weapon. Twenty three receptions 727 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 6: in four games this year. The explosion, the quickness, the 728 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 6: dependability to catch the ball, the willingness to fight to 729 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 6: come away with the difficult reception. He's a little bit smaller, 730 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 6: but he's the guy that can separate through his routes, 731 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 6: you know, finds ways to get open which teams want. 732 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 6: He's got terrific quickness fundamentally for the most part, sound 733 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 6: as a pass catcher, extends his hands to make the 734 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 6: catch away from his frame, and wants to play. 735 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 5: Wants to play. 736 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 6: The reason I rated it, and so Highley is coming 737 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:08,719 Speaker 6: back from that injury, playing only after playing five games 738 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,880 Speaker 6: last year. I think the sky's the limit, and again 739 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 6: I thought maybe day three, but I think he's moved 740 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 6: into the top one hundred, or at least he's heading 741 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:19,800 Speaker 6: towards the top one hundred with the way he's playing 742 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 6: this year. 743 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,439 Speaker 1: And then this is why wide receivers are so much fun. 744 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,319 Speaker 2: You got Burks at like five nine I think one 745 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 2: eighty eight, right, and then you look over and you 746 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 2: have Ian Strong out of Rutgers, who's just like monster 747 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,920 Speaker 2: running around at like six three over two hundred pounds. 748 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, and he had a good sophomore year last year, 749 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,400 Speaker 3: but he looked even better as a junior. Three games 750 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,880 Speaker 3: he's had three one hundred yard receiving performances. He's averaging 751 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 3: eight catches per game, and at six three two fifteen 752 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,480 Speaker 3: kind of like you mentioned, he's to me, he's the 753 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 3: best contested catch receiver I've watched so far this year. 754 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 3: His adjustments to the football, his ability to use that 755 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 3: length in his body so he always attacks the ball 756 00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 3: away from himself, and then his strength to finish. It's 757 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 3: really impressive to watch on the Iowa tape. All the 758 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 3: tapes this year, there are at least a couple contested 759 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:09,279 Speaker 3: catches each game that show his ability to box out, 760 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,279 Speaker 3: catch the ball away from himself and then just the 761 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,840 Speaker 3: play Strength really stands out. The body controls terrific, so 762 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 3: he can adjust to some of these passes that aren't 763 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 3: quite on point. Now, part of the reason why he's 764 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:23,480 Speaker 3: seeing those contested catches is he's not separating at a 765 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:26,400 Speaker 3: high clip, but at the same time, they're giving him 766 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,480 Speaker 3: a high dose of the back shoulders and the comebacks 767 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:31,239 Speaker 3: and you know where there's gonna be a little more 768 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,719 Speaker 3: of a crowd at the catch point, and he's because 769 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:35,279 Speaker 3: they know he can. He can come away with the 770 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 3: high percentage of those catches. So you know, if you're 771 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,840 Speaker 3: watching Rutgers, check out Ian Strong. Like I said, I 772 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,120 Speaker 3: think the best contested catch receiver in the country and 773 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 3: someone who's helping himself moving up a little bit. 774 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:47,880 Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, let me just say just say I was 775 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,439 Speaker 6: going to put Strong in the spot, but since John 776 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,439 Speaker 6: wanted us to talk about players that are playing better 777 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,920 Speaker 6: than we had him graded. I actually had Strong graded 778 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:57,880 Speaker 6: as a third round pick coming into the season. I 779 00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,320 Speaker 6: thought so highly of them off the two thousand twenty 780 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 6: four tape, and you're right. I mean, he is a 781 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 6: bigger contested catch guy. If you watch that Iowa game, 782 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 6: he made a catch I believe, late in the second 783 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,319 Speaker 6: half down the left hand sideline, which was just spectacular. 784 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 6: It's spectacular, But he's not a fast guy. He's gonna 785 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:16,840 Speaker 6: be a great red zone threat as he has been 786 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,160 Speaker 6: at Rutgers. He'll be a great red zone threat on Sunday. 787 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:19,479 Speaker 1: Yeah. 788 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,759 Speaker 2: Really good possession outside X type of receiver. I mean, 789 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:24,640 Speaker 2: they run so many of those little like twelve yard 790 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:26,319 Speaker 2: outs to him where he just breaks off on the 791 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,280 Speaker 2: corner and catches this ball near the sideline. 792 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 1: Good good player. All right. 793 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:31,880 Speaker 2: For the offensive line, guys, we got a couple of 794 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 2: universities heres no more for their academics than their football. 795 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,960 Speaker 2: We'll start with you, Dane Northwestern. Caleb Tiernan tell us 796 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:39,840 Speaker 2: about left tackle. 797 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he came into this season with mostly 798 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:47,440 Speaker 3: you know, later round grades, fifth round, six round grades. 799 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,720 Speaker 3: But the left tackle man, he's looked a lot better 800 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:54,040 Speaker 3: on tape this year than I think those projections would indicate. 801 00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 3: Six seven and a half three and twenty pounds, a 802 00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 3: bigger guy, thirty three and a half inch arms. You 803 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,359 Speaker 3: put on the Oregon tape and you see a very 804 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,200 Speaker 3: controlled player both in pass pro and in the run game. 805 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,799 Speaker 3: He's very efficient with his movements and it really makes 806 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:09,719 Speaker 3: it tough for rushers to get around him. 807 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:11,960 Speaker 4: So I like his angles in the run game. 808 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:13,960 Speaker 3: He's a little inconsistent in terms of the knee bent 809 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,839 Speaker 3: because he is a taller guy. But I'm a lot 810 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:20,200 Speaker 3: more optimistic about tiering in now than I was a 811 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,920 Speaker 3: few months ago, really based on that Oregon tape and 812 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,879 Speaker 3: what he put on film. So that Northwestern offense, there's 813 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,240 Speaker 3: not a lot to get excited about, but Caleb Tiernan 814 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,520 Speaker 3: at left tackle, He's going to keep scouts putting that 815 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:32,919 Speaker 3: Northwestern tape on for him. 816 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:37,400 Speaker 5: Do you like him at left tackle? 817 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,799 Speaker 6: Because when I liked him coming into the season, I 818 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,439 Speaker 6: really haven't watched him this month that much. This year, 819 00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,880 Speaker 6: I thought college left tackle who's got right tackle skills 820 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:47,719 Speaker 6: probably is gonna have to move to the other side 821 00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:48,720 Speaker 6: of the line on Sunday. 822 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:53,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think I had a similar thought based 823 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,480 Speaker 3: off of what we saw over the summer. But I 824 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,320 Speaker 3: keep going back to the Oregon tape. There was nothing 825 00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:01,680 Speaker 3: on that tape this year that said he can't do 826 00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,319 Speaker 3: it at the next level. So I'm gonna draft him 827 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,279 Speaker 3: as maybe being my backup swing tackle. Hoping he can 828 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 3: move in and eventually be a starter for me. So 829 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:12,600 Speaker 3: so far this year, he hasn't put anything on tape 830 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,560 Speaker 3: that tells me he can't stay a love tackle, Tony. 831 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,000 Speaker 2: You got Brian Parker the second out of Duke. A 832 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,600 Speaker 2: right tackle. He kind of has a guard build to 833 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,320 Speaker 2: me when I watch him, but definitely effective. 834 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:25,520 Speaker 6: Guard or center. A lot of people think he's gonna 835 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,400 Speaker 6: be a real good center for the next level. And 836 00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:29,880 Speaker 6: you know what have we seen come out of Duke lately. 837 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,360 Speaker 6: A lot of real good offensive linemen, and Parker is 838 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,520 Speaker 6: gonna be the next one. As you said, plays right 839 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:38,279 Speaker 6: tackle fundamentally sound, real good knee bend, can slide off 840 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:41,440 Speaker 6: the edge, really good with his hands, play smart football, 841 00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:45,040 Speaker 6: good angles and pass protection. He's not a finisher, He's 842 00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:48,200 Speaker 6: not a dominant guy. Played well against Illinois, even though 843 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,840 Speaker 6: Duke got their rear ends handed to him late in 844 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:54,520 Speaker 6: that game. I thought he held it well against Jackas 845 00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:55,600 Speaker 6: a lot of people. 846 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,560 Speaker 5: In the scouting community are high on him. Again. 847 00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:01,240 Speaker 6: I watched him in the in the in the summer 848 00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:05,080 Speaker 6: from last year's film, maybe fifth round. He's getting better. 849 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:08,400 Speaker 6: He's getting potential Day two grades. But as you said, 850 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:10,880 Speaker 6: you know he's gonna guard build. I have him on 851 00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,040 Speaker 6: my guardboard. There are a lot of people think that 852 00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,080 Speaker 6: he's gonna move to center on Sunday. 853 00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:16,480 Speaker 2: Dan, what do you think he's gonna stay out of 854 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:17,880 Speaker 2: tackle or is he gonna move inside? 855 00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:20,200 Speaker 3: You know, I think he's an interior player and I 856 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,640 Speaker 3: think that it there. There definitely were some hiccups on 857 00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,759 Speaker 3: that Illinois tape, but you see why scouts are high 858 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:28,400 Speaker 3: in this player. I mean he to me, he is 859 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,239 Speaker 3: going to be a Day two player if he comes out, 860 00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:33,400 Speaker 3: because he I believe he's an underclassman, right, so he 861 00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,359 Speaker 3: has a decision to make after the year. But if 862 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:39,120 Speaker 3: he continues to play at this level, I mean, he's 863 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:42,640 Speaker 3: not Graham Barton. Graham Barton was an easy first round 864 00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 3: guy moving from left tackle at a center. Like we 865 00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:46,920 Speaker 3: knew he Graham Barton was gonna go high. I don't 866 00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,560 Speaker 3: think Perker's on that level. But to me, he looks 867 00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:52,120 Speaker 3: like a guy with starting potential in the NFL, and 868 00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:53,680 Speaker 3: that's why I think ultimately he'll be a top one 869 00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:54,239 Speaker 3: hundred pick. 870 00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,560 Speaker 2: All right, let's go now over to the defensive line guys, 871 00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:59,759 Speaker 2: and Dane, you kind of talked a little bit about 872 00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,480 Speaker 2: this when we talked about the Mammi Florida game, And 873 00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,080 Speaker 2: you're right, Rubin Bain, who I love watching in the offseason. 874 00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:07,960 Speaker 2: He has met expectations and kind of flew past them. 875 00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:09,680 Speaker 2: He talked about the guy that could end up being 876 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,120 Speaker 2: coming a top ten pick if he continues along this route. 877 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:13,440 Speaker 1: I think he's one of them. 878 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I purposely, yeah, try not to talk too 879 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,360 Speaker 3: much about Bain to talk about him here, because he 880 00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:20,319 Speaker 3: was a tough guy for me to figure out over 881 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,879 Speaker 3: the summer. His twenty twenty four tape did not say 882 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:26,200 Speaker 3: first round playing it simple. It was very inconsistent, but 883 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,319 Speaker 3: it was tough to figure out how much of it 884 00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,400 Speaker 3: was injury related, how much of it was just you know, 885 00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:34,200 Speaker 3: he was having a tough time taking his game to 886 00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:37,360 Speaker 3: that next level. But he's been the best defensive prospect 887 00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,839 Speaker 3: that I have studied so far. In twenty twenty five 888 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:44,040 Speaker 3: full stop six three, two seventy five power packed. He's 889 00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:45,880 Speaker 3: gonna win at the point of attack. His hands are 890 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,880 Speaker 3: like sticks of dynamite. He is so heavy at the 891 00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:52,239 Speaker 3: point of attack. But he also has that burst off 892 00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,919 Speaker 3: the ball, and that really stands out. He explodes off 893 00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,960 Speaker 3: the edge He looks like more of a smaller player 894 00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:00,600 Speaker 3: with the way he does flies out of a stance 895 00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:02,880 Speaker 3: and then he can rush low, he can dip around 896 00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:06,600 Speaker 3: the corner. He doesn't sacrifice that cornering speed at all. 897 00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,840 Speaker 3: Right now, number two in the FBS and pressures with 898 00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,960 Speaker 3: twenty two. Like I mentioned, the run defense is elite. 899 00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,759 Speaker 3: And he's just a guy that makes his presence felt 900 00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:20,560 Speaker 3: every single play, every single series. So he has looked 901 00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:24,040 Speaker 3: every bit the part of a top ten pick so 902 00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:27,040 Speaker 3: far this year. And I couldn't confidently say that based 903 00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:28,440 Speaker 3: on his twenty twenty four tape. 904 00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, Key Mesidor's teammates also playing welcoming back from injury. 905 00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:37,000 Speaker 6: I went with the Anthony Smith of Minnesota. I like 906 00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:40,719 Speaker 6: I like Main, but Smith, in my opinion, brings more versatility. 907 00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:42,560 Speaker 6: He goes about six foot five, He's probably gonna be 908 00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,959 Speaker 6: about twenty and seventy five pounds. Four tackles for lost, 909 00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:49,080 Speaker 6: three sacks on a Minnesota defense that lines up at 910 00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:52,000 Speaker 6: three to four. You watch him, He's incredibly athletic for 911 00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:55,560 Speaker 6: a big man. He moves incredibly well, uses his hands well, 912 00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:58,800 Speaker 6: plays with great paend level and leverage, moves around the field, 913 00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,520 Speaker 6: can get out in the space and pursue the play 914 00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:05,600 Speaker 6: can overwhelm opponents. I like him now, but I think 915 00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:09,640 Speaker 6: his upside is tremendous. Anthony Smith, I have him greted 916 00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,640 Speaker 6: as a Day two pick. Better he plays, the higher 917 00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:14,520 Speaker 6: he'll move up with draft boards. And I think he's 918 00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:16,640 Speaker 6: one of these guys that is very good right now. 919 00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,759 Speaker 6: With proper development and good coaching, can be just a 920 00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:23,680 Speaker 6: knockout NFL defensive lineman as either an end in a 921 00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,800 Speaker 6: foreman front, an and in a three man front. Maybe 922 00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:28,800 Speaker 6: use him as an undersized defensive tackle. 923 00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:31,440 Speaker 1: And Dan Dave Tony and I have talked about this. 924 00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:34,080 Speaker 2: You know, we've had good edge rush classes before, but 925 00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:35,719 Speaker 2: usually got a bunch of these like two hundred and 926 00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:37,880 Speaker 2: forty nine, two hundred and fifty pounds, two hundred and 927 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,560 Speaker 2: thirty pound guys. You just mentioned a Bing's two seventy five, 928 00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,680 Speaker 2: Smith's to eighty five. We got a bunch of like 929 00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:47,440 Speaker 2: old school Bill Belichick style edge players in this class. 930 00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:50,040 Speaker 2: That for coaches that want that type of edge player, 931 00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:51,920 Speaker 2: they're going to have a choice of a lot of 932 00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:53,359 Speaker 2: good players in this class. 933 00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:57,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, Kendrick Foalks two seventy plus, I mean Zion Young 934 00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:01,600 Speaker 3: is up there. T Overton is a two hundred and 935 00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:04,560 Speaker 3: seventy five pounder. Yeah, and Anthony Smith, I mean I 936 00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:06,560 Speaker 3: gave him a third round grade coming into this year, 937 00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:10,000 Speaker 3: and I have not put a monitor microscope yet just 938 00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:11,160 Speaker 3: because of you. 939 00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:12,799 Speaker 4: Know, Northwestern State Buffalo. 940 00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,840 Speaker 3: I'm kind of waiting to see against a better opponent. 941 00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:18,799 Speaker 4: But there's a lot to like with the player with 942 00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:20,120 Speaker 4: the size, his ability. 943 00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:23,040 Speaker 3: I mean, I cannot wait to see once Minnesota gets 944 00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:24,920 Speaker 3: more into the Big ten schedule to see if he 945 00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:26,760 Speaker 3: can hold up and still make this type of impact. 946 00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,080 Speaker 3: Because if he can, yeah, that that stock is going 947 00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:29,879 Speaker 3: to skyrocket. 948 00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:33,640 Speaker 2: All right, Tony, Let's go over to a player that 949 00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:35,920 Speaker 2: we talked a lot about the last couple of years 950 00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:37,400 Speaker 2: and we didn't know what he was going to be 951 00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:40,600 Speaker 2: coming back from injury. But man, Harold Perkins looks like 952 00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:43,440 Speaker 2: his old dominant self. I still think there's still questions 953 00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:44,880 Speaker 2: in terms of where he's going to fit in when 954 00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:46,480 Speaker 2: he eventually gets to the pros. And Dan, I want 955 00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:49,120 Speaker 2: to get your take on that too, But Perkins has 956 00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:51,160 Speaker 2: looked great and I'm really happy for the player after 957 00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:52,359 Speaker 2: that bad injury last year. 958 00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:53,680 Speaker 5: I think he looks better. 959 00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:56,160 Speaker 6: I mean, you know he does are a great stats 960 00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:58,920 Speaker 6: one sack, four pass breakups, two tackles for us. But 961 00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,799 Speaker 6: he's a force and tell the opponent's game planning around him. 962 00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,439 Speaker 6: And I like the way that they use him all 963 00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,879 Speaker 6: over the field. I think people are going to mistakenly 964 00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,800 Speaker 6: pigeonhole him as an EDG rusher as we get closer 965 00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:12,799 Speaker 6: to the drift, and he's not an ed rusher. Yeah 966 00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,000 Speaker 6: he can rush the passer, Yeah he can bring some 967 00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:17,719 Speaker 6: force on the blitz, but you can also use him 968 00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:20,319 Speaker 6: in space and he's terrific. You can also use him 969 00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:23,640 Speaker 6: in pursuit and he goes sideline to sideline, you know, 970 00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:26,279 Speaker 6: a snap of the fingers making plays. I just like 971 00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:29,280 Speaker 6: his overall game. I agree with you about the size. 972 00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:33,200 Speaker 6: I mean, what is he going to be six five pounds, 973 00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:38,000 Speaker 6: But we've seen that sort of move towards smaller defenders 974 00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,320 Speaker 6: are okay because you can use them in a variety 975 00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,920 Speaker 6: of roles. You know, I know where he was as 976 00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:46,000 Speaker 6: a freshman, I know where he was after the injury 977 00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:49,760 Speaker 6: and the way he's rebounded, and I feel just improve 978 00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:53,160 Speaker 6: his play is why I didn't I didn't think I 979 00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:57,280 Speaker 6: would get this much from Harold Perkins. Junior this early 980 00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,640 Speaker 6: in the season, based off of the injury from a 981 00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:00,000 Speaker 6: year ago. 982 00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,359 Speaker 2: Dan and I will make sure I record this and 983 00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:04,480 Speaker 2: send it over to Hellman so he can listen to you, 984 00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:07,160 Speaker 2: guys wax poetic about Perkins here, who really has done 985 00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:07,799 Speaker 2: a nice job. 986 00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:09,799 Speaker 4: Yeah, he has. 987 00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:12,120 Speaker 3: And I think part of the issue with Harold Perkins 988 00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:16,040 Speaker 3: has been LSU's plan. You know, they've gone through a 989 00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:18,880 Speaker 3: couple defensive coordinators. They weren't sure, okays in the edge rusher, 990 00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:22,080 Speaker 3: can we move him inside? And then the injury happened 991 00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:25,839 Speaker 3: the ACL and so there's all this fluctuation coming into 992 00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,719 Speaker 3: this year. He was finally healthy and they got a 993 00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,280 Speaker 3: chance to really plug him in at that star position 994 00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:33,279 Speaker 3: and keep him there. And it's like, Okay, this is 995 00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:36,000 Speaker 3: your defined role. And I think that's that's kind of 996 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,759 Speaker 3: the blueprint for NFL teams. They have to have a 997 00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,239 Speaker 3: defined idea. Okay, this is a role we're going to 998 00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:43,719 Speaker 3: have him in. Have to be an outside backer where 999 00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,200 Speaker 3: on some plays, yeah, he's gonna be a delayed blitzer. 1000 00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:49,200 Speaker 3: On some plays he's gonna drop in space. His closing 1001 00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:52,920 Speaker 3: speed is just remarkable. He flies to the football. You 1002 00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,000 Speaker 3: want this guy in space because there are times where 1003 00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:58,360 Speaker 3: he will when he's coming downhill and if a blocker 1004 00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,600 Speaker 3: gets in front of him, it totally engulfs him and 1005 00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:02,200 Speaker 3: there's nothing he can do. He doesn't have that type 1006 00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:04,200 Speaker 3: of length, that type of play strength where he can 1007 00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:07,160 Speaker 3: easily unwind from blocks, but if you keep him in space, 1008 00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:10,240 Speaker 3: he will find the ball carrier, break down and finish. 1009 00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,520 Speaker 3: So one of the best blitzing linebackers that'll be in 1010 00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:16,120 Speaker 3: this class. The speed really stands out, and I think 1011 00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:18,479 Speaker 3: he's holding up better in coverage so far this year. 1012 00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:20,719 Speaker 3: Then you know, maybe we've saw in the past he 1013 00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:23,399 Speaker 3: has a better feel for it, so there's no doubt 1014 00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:27,120 Speaker 3: about it. Harold Perkins has helped himself and a guy 1015 00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:30,280 Speaker 3: that was maybe looked at as a fringe top fifty 1016 00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:33,080 Speaker 3: pick coming into the year, he's inching more into that 1017 00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:36,000 Speaker 3: top fifty, maybe even get into the first round type 1018 00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:37,200 Speaker 3: of range at this point. 1019 00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:39,880 Speaker 2: You know, Dan, we've talked a lot about your linebacker's teammate, 1020 00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:43,360 Speaker 2: Sonny Styles on this show, but Arvel Reese has played 1021 00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:44,840 Speaker 2: really well, and what kind of jumps out to me 1022 00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:48,080 Speaker 2: is his length. He's just really long. He doesn't mind 1023 00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,960 Speaker 2: taking on look, he'll get overpowered by them sometimes. But 1024 00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:53,359 Speaker 2: even see a linebacker in today's day and age take 1025 00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,440 Speaker 2: on offensive lineman in the hole and actually try to, 1026 00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:57,080 Speaker 2: you know, separate and get off of them. 1027 00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:58,440 Speaker 1: You don't see that much anymore. 1028 00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:00,839 Speaker 2: He just seems like a smart, old, cool linebacker that's 1029 00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:02,840 Speaker 2: played really well. 1030 00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:05,840 Speaker 3: When I do my Top fifty in August, I always 1031 00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:08,000 Speaker 3: send it to a few scouts just to get some feedback, 1032 00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:10,200 Speaker 3: and one of them sent back, Hey, I think you're 1033 00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:13,040 Speaker 3: right on Styles having them in the twenties. But I'll 1034 00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:15,200 Speaker 3: tell you what, by the end of the year, your 1035 00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:18,200 Speaker 3: top fifty, Arvel Reese will be in there too. Styles 1036 00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:20,880 Speaker 3: teammatee Ohio State, and I got it. He was exactly right. 1037 00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:23,080 Speaker 4: The scout nailed it. 1038 00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:26,279 Speaker 3: Through three games this year, Reese has been He's at 1039 00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:28,560 Speaker 3: least putting himself in the conversation to be the first 1040 00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:31,960 Speaker 3: linebacker drafted. It wouldn't be crazy if Ohio State had 1041 00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:34,840 Speaker 3: the first two linebackers drafted with him and Sunny Styles. 1042 00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:35,880 Speaker 4: And I think in a. 1043 00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:38,400 Speaker 3: Lot of ways, it's when you look at this defense 1044 00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:42,520 Speaker 3: for the buck guys Matt Patricia takes over. The linebackers 1045 00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:44,520 Speaker 3: are the key to that type of style of defense 1046 00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:46,440 Speaker 3: that he wants to play. You go back in time, 1047 00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:49,319 Speaker 3: you see New England Dante Hyde Tower, the way they 1048 00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:52,919 Speaker 3: utilize Kyle van Noy. The corners are going to cover 1049 00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:55,560 Speaker 3: the defensive linemen. They're going to win in the trenches, 1050 00:47:55,960 --> 00:48:00,400 Speaker 3: but it's the linebackers that can be really weaponized that 1051 00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:04,160 Speaker 3: scheme so far, that's exactly what we've seen from Reese, especially, 1052 00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:06,680 Speaker 3: go back to that opener against Texas, different types of 1053 00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,520 Speaker 3: blitzes asking him to cover out of the backfield. This 1054 00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:12,000 Speaker 3: guy is six y four, two hundred and forty pounds 1055 00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:15,279 Speaker 3: long as heck, like you mentioned, and so you see 1056 00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:17,680 Speaker 3: him with the power where he can jar blockers off 1057 00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:21,600 Speaker 3: the spot. He's got ben flexibility closing speed where he's 1058 00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:24,360 Speaker 3: going to chase down the ball. It's just he looks 1059 00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:26,520 Speaker 3: like a much smaller athlete, but he plays like a 1060 00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:29,279 Speaker 3: much bigger athlete. And it's it's gonna be really fun 1061 00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:32,240 Speaker 3: to watch him in styles the rest of the season. 1062 00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:35,480 Speaker 3: Two guys that are legit six' four over two hundred 1063 00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:38,480 Speaker 3: and forty, pounds and it's just a rare combination to 1064 00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:40,799 Speaker 3: have in college. Football and SO i think scouts are 1065 00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:43,360 Speaker 3: obviously they're always excited to Watch Ohio state, guys but 1066 00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:44,879 Speaker 3: even more so with these two. 1067 00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:45,200 Speaker 1: GUYS a. 1068 00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:48,520 Speaker 6: Linebacker, YEAH i, MEAN i love the instincts AND i 1069 00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:50,040 Speaker 6: love the way the guy just came in and took 1070 00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:53,040 Speaker 6: over For Cody. Simon and you Remember Cody simon had 1071 00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:55,480 Speaker 6: all that great talent on The Ohio state defense last. Year, 1072 00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:58,239 Speaker 6: year it Was Cody simon who really courted back that. 1073 00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:00,279 Speaker 6: UNIT i see a lot of that From Averill, rees 1074 00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:03,759 Speaker 6: who was a rotational linebacker this. Year really from the get. 1075 00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:05,799 Speaker 6: Go you mentioned that That texas. Game john AND i 1076 00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:09,160 Speaker 6: talked about. It he's got terrific. Upside the way he's 1077 00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:11,440 Speaker 6: just can't come in and has taken over that. Defense 1078 00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:14,960 Speaker 6: just the leadership of that, DEFENSE i never. Mind the 1079 00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:17,080 Speaker 6: physical skills speaks volumes to. 1080 00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:19,959 Speaker 2: Me moodies is a bratt partner of The, giants uniting 1081 00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:22,560 Speaker 2: the brightest minds to turn today's risk into tomorrow's. 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Football he's been 1092 00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:45,520 Speaker 2: a revelation for LSU's. 1093 00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:48,120 Speaker 4: Defense and you, know it's. 1094 00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:50,680 Speaker 3: Funny at this time last, year he had made My 1095 00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:54,080 Speaker 3: top fifty At Virginia tech going into his junior, season 1096 00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:56,920 Speaker 3: and so there was a lot of excitement for what 1097 00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:58,359 Speaker 3: he could do last, year and he had an okay 1098 00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:02,200 Speaker 3: season For Virginia. TECH i think at four picks he 1099 00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:04,640 Speaker 3: was close to coming out and the to THE Nfl. Draft, 1100 00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:09,080 Speaker 3: instead he decided to transfer goes TO, lsu AND i 1101 00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:12,560 Speaker 3: think so for those that really focused on the physical 1102 00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:15,640 Speaker 3: traits for the, position which at corner a lot of people, 1103 00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:18,400 Speaker 3: DO i think you're gonna be a little underwhelmed With 1104 00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:21,520 Speaker 3: delaane because he's five, eleven one. Ninety he actually he 1105 00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:25,400 Speaker 3: has shorter. Arms his arms, rarely, yeah they're right around thirty, 1106 00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:29,680 Speaker 3: Inches so for a court they're not like shockingly small 1107 00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:32,200 Speaker 3: under thirty, inches but they're like thirty and. EIGHTH i 1108 00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:34,720 Speaker 3: think at least that's what he was over the spring 1109 00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:37,839 Speaker 3: and the speed is PROBABLY i don't, know four four, 1110 00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:40,560 Speaker 3: six four four seven like, good, fine but. 1111 00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:41,640 Speaker 4: Not for three not. 1112 00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:44,279 Speaker 3: Elite that what you know teams really look for at 1113 00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:47,600 Speaker 3: the corner. Position BUT i want to get that out 1114 00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:50,640 Speaker 3: of the way to say that this guy what really. 1115 00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:52,320 Speaker 4: Sets him apart how smart he is in. 1116 00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:56,200 Speaker 3: Coverage you rarely see him panicked or surprised because of 1117 00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:59,200 Speaker 3: his ability to read route. Concepts he knows what the 1118 00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:01,120 Speaker 3: offense is trying to. Do he stays on top of. 1119 00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:04,040 Speaker 3: Receivers he's really good in. Zone he can hold up in. 1120 00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:07,239 Speaker 3: Man you watch The clemson, tape The florida, Tape it 1121 00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:11,160 Speaker 3: just both those tapes he was outstanding in. Coverage he shows. 1122 00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:13,560 Speaker 3: Up he's physical in the run. Game so IF i 1123 00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:16,040 Speaker 3: had to do a top fifty, tomorrow there's just no 1124 00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:19,280 Speaker 3: WAY i could leave him, out even though the physical 1125 00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:20,640 Speaker 3: traits are more good than. 1126 00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:23,760 Speaker 6: Great you, Know delane's a guy who as a Sophomore 1127 00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:26,120 Speaker 6: Virginia tech really caught my. Eye AND i think last 1128 00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:28,560 Speaker 6: year he didn't have a great year because they really 1129 00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:31,600 Speaker 6: weren't challenging too. Much And Virginia tech a year ago 1130 00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:33,960 Speaker 6: had a real good cornerback by the name Of Dorrigan 1131 00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:36,680 Speaker 6: strong who was a sixth round, pick but quarterbacks seem 1132 00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:38,880 Speaker 6: to stay away from. HIM i agree with. YOU i 1133 00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:41,640 Speaker 6: talked to, him talked about the lane to people to 1134 00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:43,200 Speaker 6: see your. Ball they're, like, well. 1135 00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:43,680 Speaker 5: The speeds are. 1136 00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:45,880 Speaker 6: Concerned the speeds are. Concerned and AS i said To, 1137 00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:48,200 Speaker 6: john we've talked about the, show you don't see that 1138 00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:51,759 Speaker 6: concern on. Film and just to What dane said about, 1139 00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:53,719 Speaker 6: him you, know being able to play in zone or. 1140 00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:56,560 Speaker 6: Man he's terrific making plays with his back to the. 1141 00:51:56,560 --> 00:52:00,560 Speaker 6: Ball you see him in zone sometimes coming off assignments 1142 00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:02,839 Speaker 6: to help out because he knows where the ball is gonna. 1143 00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:07,120 Speaker 6: Be you, know don't expect great testing, numbers but he's 1144 00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:11,920 Speaker 6: an outstanding cornerback and outstanding defensive back who really does 1145 00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:14,000 Speaker 6: a great job making plays with his back to the. 1146 00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:18,120 Speaker 6: Ball and that is key because we see oftentimes these, 1147 00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:22,879 Speaker 6: bigger the, speedier these athletic cornerbacks in college who never 1148 00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:26,000 Speaker 6: get their head back around play the receiver's, hands do 1149 00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:29,560 Speaker 6: too much, faceguarding and that'll lead to. Ruin delane's got 1150 00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:31,200 Speaker 6: that that part of the game already figured. 1151 00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:33,280 Speaker 1: Out, GUYS i hope everyone's enjoyed. 1152 00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:35,200 Speaker 2: This you have two guys that live and breathe college 1153 00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:37,920 Speaker 2: football and the draft and draft. Prospects there's great information 1154 00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:40,279 Speaker 2: over the course of the. Show Two Monster. Games i'm 1155 00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:42,279 Speaker 2: just gonna throw it to both of. YOU i will 1156 00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:43,799 Speaker 2: go one at a. Time tony will lead off with. 1157 00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:46,920 Speaker 2: You Two monster games this Week, Oregon Penn, State, Alabama. 1158 00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:49,400 Speaker 1: Georgia what are you going to be watching for in 1159 00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:51,560 Speaker 1: those two? Games how Does Drew. 1160 00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:54,760 Speaker 5: Lar hold up against An oregon pass? Rush that's pretty? 1161 00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:57,600 Speaker 6: GOOD i mean The Penn state's also got a terrific 1162 00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:00,919 Speaker 6: left jackal And Drew shelton a, lot gets a lot 1163 00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:04,120 Speaker 6: of a lot of love in the scouting. Community he's 1164 00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:05,719 Speaker 6: gonna be. Up he's going to be up against it 1165 00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:08,960 Speaker 6: against Dj ubulelei's a little. Brother so you want to 1166 00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:12,040 Speaker 6: see How Drew. Law Which Jewel law are we going 1167 00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:14,480 Speaker 6: to see in the first big matchup of the season 1168 00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:16,120 Speaker 6: for the Nitty? Liiers are going to see The Jewel 1169 00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:19,239 Speaker 6: lar that we know we fell in love with as 1170 00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:21,760 Speaker 6: a freshman and, Said, wow this guy's gonna be? Knockout 1171 00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:23,880 Speaker 6: or are we going to see the jewelr that's maybe 1172 00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:26,680 Speaker 6: taking The Christian hackenberg path the past couple of years 1173 00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:29,279 Speaker 6: and has never lived up to. Expectations so that's going 1174 00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:31,480 Speaker 6: to be you, know the big key for me is 1175 00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:35,000 Speaker 6: a law and The Penn state left Tackle Drew shelton 1176 00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:38,759 Speaker 6: against That oregon defense in That oregon pass. 1177 00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:40,640 Speaker 1: Rush, dan how about you in that? 1178 00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:44,560 Speaker 4: GAME I i this is a quarterback matchup for. 1179 00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:47,719 Speaker 3: ME i CANNOT i instead of MATERIAL i almost Said 1180 00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:51,160 Speaker 3: Dante moore for our you know who is. Impressed And 1181 00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:53,600 Speaker 3: moore has been terrific this. Year he's completing seventy five 1182 00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:58,120 Speaker 3: percent of his, passes eleven, touchdowns one, interception several big play. 1183 00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:00,680 Speaker 3: Throws he looks like a FUTURE nfl. Starter this will 1184 00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:04,880 Speaker 3: be his first real legit test against the respectable defense 1185 00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:07,200 Speaker 3: plus us on the road in a really tough. Environment 1186 00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:11,239 Speaker 3: so how Does Dante moore handle? That Kenyon sidik hit tight? 1187 00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:14,080 Speaker 3: End he's been my tight end one since the start 1188 00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:17,520 Speaker 3: top twenty. Pick he as a as a, blocker what 1189 00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:20,560 Speaker 3: he does in the passing, GAME i Think sadiq is 1190 00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:22,319 Speaker 3: a true difference. Maker SO i want to see that 1191 00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:25,480 Speaker 3: more sidiq, connection see what they can do in this, 1192 00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:30,120 Speaker 3: one and then you, KNOW i think with the both left, 1193 00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:32,920 Speaker 3: tackles really you, know both these, quarterbacks is a big 1194 00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:35,960 Speaker 3: one for them but also both left, Tackles Drew shelton 1195 00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:39,560 Speaker 3: And Isaiah. World you see the, traits you see the. 1196 00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:43,080 Speaker 3: ABILITY i need more consistency for both these guys because 1197 00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:45,640 Speaker 3: you see why they're both getting. Love you see the, 1198 00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:50,600 Speaker 3: talent but they're both in terms of technical, consistency they 1199 00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:52,080 Speaker 3: need to be. Better if you're going to be a 1200 00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:54,080 Speaker 3: first round, pick if you're going to be a top twenty. 1201 00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:55,160 Speaker 4: Five, guy you need to be. 1202 00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:59,200 Speaker 3: Better and this will be a great test for both those. 1203 00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:03,240 Speaker 3: Guys when you talk About Ui gaily and Then Danny 1204 00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:06,680 Speaker 3: Dennis sutton For Penn, State so, yeah THERE'S i, mean 1205 00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:09,160 Speaker 3: we could talk for hours on the prospects in this, 1206 00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:11,879 Speaker 3: game but the quarterbacks and the left, TACKLES i think 1207 00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:14,680 Speaker 3: this is a big matchup for those. Guys in terms 1208 00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:17,520 Speaker 3: of this is a tape every SINGLE nfl team is gonna. 1209 00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:18,879 Speaker 4: Launch there's gonna be a lot OF. 1210 00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:22,279 Speaker 3: Nfl personnel in actually in person to watch this. One 1211 00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:24,640 Speaker 3: but then EVERY nfl team's gonna WATCH us. Tape so 1212 00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:26,800 Speaker 3: this is kind of a chance to make your, statement 1213 00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:28,879 Speaker 3: AND i think it's a big opportunity for all those. 1214 00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:31,680 Speaker 6: Guys And, john you know you talked about bigger defensive 1215 00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:33,840 Speaker 6: ENDS i am a big fan Of Dennis Danny, SUTTON 1216 00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:35,320 Speaker 6: i always. HAVE i know he took a backseat to 1217 00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:38,720 Speaker 6: abdual quarter six five and a half two hundred and seventy, 1218 00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:43,040 Speaker 6: pounds a legit high for six low four. Seven guy 1219 00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:47,000 Speaker 6: really stood out in the playoffs. Win Bill carter struggled 1220 00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:49,360 Speaker 6: with that shoulder injury last. Year so, yeah to that, 1221 00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:53,200 Speaker 6: point that's another match. Up my, Opinion Dennis Setton sutton 1222 00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:56,120 Speaker 6: just does not get the love he deserves outside the scouting. 1223 00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:58,839 Speaker 2: Community AND i got to imagine That oregent is sitting, there, 1224 00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:00,920 Speaker 2: like why are we six and stats? Three have you 1225 00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:03,000 Speaker 2: not watched us just destroy? People i'm sure they gonna 1226 00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:04,680 Speaker 2: go into that building with a bit of a chip 1227 00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:06,880 Speaker 2: on their. Shoulder And i'm a little. Disappointed And i'm 1228 00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:09,440 Speaker 2: SURE nfl scouts are. Too and a bunch of nflgms were, like, 1229 00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:12,440 Speaker 2: well MAYBE i can you, know Good Alabama georgia at 1230 00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:15,040 Speaker 2: noon and THEN i can get up AND i can 1231 00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:16,800 Speaker 2: get The Penn state and time to see them play. 1232 00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:17,239 Speaker 4: Are at the same. 1233 00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:20,000 Speaker 1: Time that's What i'm. Saying what is that seven thirty 1234 00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:21,719 Speaker 1: for both? Games what do we do with? Here? 1235 00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:24,799 Speaker 4: Dan come, on, man, yeah come ON TV i THINK 1236 00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:26,399 Speaker 4: i get. It like you know you you. 1237 00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:28,680 Speaker 3: Want the better, ratings you want the like it's A 1238 00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:31,719 Speaker 3: i don't. Know ALL i know is this is why 1239 00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:34,120 Speaker 3: you have two, screens, right whether it's your, phone your, 1240 00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:36,480 Speaker 3: iPad YOUR, tv, whatever figure it. Out you gotta have 1241 00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:40,040 Speaker 3: two screens for this one Because alabama At georgia is 1242 00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:42,760 Speaker 3: gonna be a fun. One and Jam miller the running 1243 00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:45,879 Speaker 3: back is supposed to be back For alabama team Keen Tim, 1244 00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:48,799 Speaker 3: keenan the defensive lineman that's been a big loss For. 1245 00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:50,960 Speaker 3: Alabama he's supposed to be back in this, one so 1246 00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:54,239 Speaker 3: that the two guys to definitely watch. FOR i want 1247 00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:57,759 Speaker 3: to see Lt, overton The alabama defensive. Lineman he's been 1248 00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:00,160 Speaker 3: fine this. Season he had a few, moments specially in 1249 00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:03,040 Speaker 3: That wisconsin. TAPE i STILL i want to see more 1250 00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:05,400 Speaker 3: again with the talent that he. HAS i want to 1251 00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:09,360 Speaker 3: see you affect the backfield. More For georgia's, DEFENSE C. J, 1252 00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:12,480 Speaker 3: ALLEN i want to see him make some. Plays he 1253 00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:14,440 Speaker 3: has a chance to be in that conversation to be 1254 00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:17,600 Speaker 3: the first linebacker. Drafted and then on offense For, georgia 1255 00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:20,560 Speaker 3: who's going to be stepping up as that main weapon 1256 00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:22,080 Speaker 3: it's going to help put points on the. 1257 00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:23,960 Speaker 4: Board Colby young is a solid. 1258 00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:28,440 Speaker 3: Receiver Zachar Yah, branch the transfer from THE Usc humphreys 1259 00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:31,760 Speaker 3: had that big touchdown late in The tennessee. Game so 1260 00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:34,960 Speaker 3: which skill player can step up For georgia if they're 1261 00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:35,880 Speaker 3: gonna get this home. 1262 00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:37,560 Speaker 5: Win, Yeah Dylan bell as. 1263 00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:39,560 Speaker 6: WELL i mean a bigger, receiver more of a possession, 1264 00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:42,880 Speaker 6: guy sort of An isaiah Isaia ian strong type Of 1265 00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:45,640 Speaker 6: rutgers receiver that we talked about. Earlier you, know listen on. 1266 00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:48,680 Speaker 6: PAPER i, Mean alabama's got the better, players there's no doubt. 1267 00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:50,880 Speaker 6: About they got the better they got the, better MORE nfl, 1268 00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:53,720 Speaker 6: Prospects they GOT nfl prospects that are going to go. 1269 00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:56,800 Speaker 6: EARLIER i don't think this is the Usual georgia team 1270 00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:58,760 Speaker 6: that we've seen in the past and, have you, know 1271 00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:00,280 Speaker 6: multiple first round. 1272 00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:01,720 Speaker 5: PICKS i think it's a little bit. 1273 00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:04,960 Speaker 6: Depressed you Talk Kayden, Croctor we talked about him, earlier 1274 00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:07,480 Speaker 6: though The georgia pass rush is not that. Great talked 1275 00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:10,320 Speaker 6: about Lt. Overton like him a, lot but where's he 1276 00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:12,360 Speaker 6: gonna play On? Sunday is a defensive end at two 1277 00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:16,080 Speaker 6: hundred and seventy plus, pounds he's the defensive. Tackle Deontay 1278 00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:19,440 Speaker 6: lawson you MENTIONED. CJL i Think Deontay lawson Of alabama 1279 00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:23,080 Speaker 6: a terrific off ball. Linebacker not the same blitzer always 1280 00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:25,160 Speaker 6: not bad on the, blitz but good and courage can 1281 00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:25,840 Speaker 6: go sideline to. 1282 00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:28,160 Speaker 5: Sideline Christian miller is a. Guy i'd like. 1283 00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:29,560 Speaker 6: To see somebody give him a real boot in the 1284 00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:32,680 Speaker 6: Rear rimd Because Christian miller the big defensive lineman From, 1285 00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:35,800 Speaker 6: georgia because he can be an immovable force and he 1286 00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:38,640 Speaker 6: can really help the rest of That georgia defense with his. 1287 00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:41,160 Speaker 1: Ability, gentlemen this was. 1288 00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:43,240 Speaker 2: GREAT i hope everyone enjoyed, It, dan and you could 1289 00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:44,920 Speaker 2: find him On building The, beast which is part of 1290 00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:46,720 Speaker 2: The Athletic Football, show WHICH i think is the best 1291 00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:49,160 Speaker 2: football podcast out. There dying anything else you want to 1292 00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:50,560 Speaker 2: let the people know about? That you got going? 1293 00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:53,800 Speaker 3: On, no you can catch all myself on The Athletic, 1294 00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:55,120 Speaker 3: YEAH i guess you mentioned. 1295 00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:56,680 Speaker 4: That Fernando mendoza pieces up. 1296 00:58:56,680 --> 00:58:59,920 Speaker 3: Today you, know have a preview article coming out for 1297 00:58:59,920 --> 00:59:02,600 Speaker 3: these big games we're talking about for the upcoming weekend 1298 00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:05,080 Speaker 3: and always working on The beast getting ready for that 1299 00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:07,040 Speaker 3: coming out here in the six months or, So. 1300 00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:09,200 Speaker 1: Yeah that'll be usually first week Of april for that. 1301 00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:10,840 Speaker 4: Guy, Right, yeah that's, it that's. 1302 00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:13,800 Speaker 3: It it Already i'm already getting anxiety thinking about, that 1303 00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:17,960 Speaker 3: turning the calendar for that. One so, yeah it's just 1304 00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:20,280 Speaker 3: it's good to have fresh tape and you, know look 1305 00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:24,520 Speaker 3: at these guys with twenty twenty five play and so 1306 00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:26,800 Speaker 3: it's this is a lot of fun to do with 1307 00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:27,040 Speaker 3: you guys. 1308 00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:28,000 Speaker 4: Today, yeah this was. 1309 00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:30,360 Speaker 2: Great tony can find all his work on sports key 1310 00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:32,520 Speaker 2: to any stories coming out this, Week, tony anything new 1311 00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:33,600 Speaker 2: rags and. 1312 00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:35,520 Speaker 6: Sliders good to know That dan AND i are the 1313 00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:37,640 Speaker 6: same mind Because Ian strong was my one of my 1314 00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:40,160 Speaker 6: rojers this week after that great game Against iowa Which 1315 00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:43,959 Speaker 6: rutgers lost. Late so just rogers and sliders and any 1316 00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:47,160 Speaker 6: news about. Underclassmen we'll start to get news about underclassmen 1317 00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:48,640 Speaker 6: as we get through the couple of months who were 1318 00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:52,360 Speaker 6: going to enter the. Draft but you, Know nil looms 1319 00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:56,480 Speaker 6: large and most guys can get large eight nine figure 1320 00:59:56,520 --> 00:59:59,320 Speaker 6: deals and basically turn around and saying Now i'm going 1321 00:59:59,320 --> 00:59:59,560 Speaker 6: back to. 1322 00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:01,720 Speaker 5: College so that's gonna be something interesting to watch as 1323 01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:02,280 Speaker 5: we go through the. 1324 01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:04,880 Speaker 2: Season, yeah five years, ago guys were leaving college to 1325 01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:06,920 Speaker 2: the pros to make. Money, now guys stay in college 1326 01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:08,520 Speaker 2: to make money because you're gonna get more on YOUR 1327 01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:10,000 Speaker 2: nla deal than you get in your rookie. 1328 01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:11,880 Speaker 1: Contract that's, crazy, gentlemen this was. 1329 01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:13,720 Speaker 2: Fun Draft season was brought to you By moody is 1330 01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:15,560 Speaker 2: a proud partner of The New York. Giants we'll see 1331 01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:17,480 Speaker 2: you next week On draft. Season, everybody enjoy a great 1332 01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:18,040 Speaker 2: weekendo college. 1333 01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:18,480 Speaker 1: Football