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Speaker 1: This is One Bills Live, presented by Kalida Health.

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Speaker 2: All right, we're ready to roll here on.

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Speaker 3: A Monday, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker. One Bill's Live is

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Speaker 3: the show. Thank you for joining us, and we are

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Speaker 3: down to eighty two players on the roster as it

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Speaker 3: stands for your Buffalo Bills. The Bills making some early

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Speaker 3: roster cuts over the weekend. A day after the preseason finale,

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Speaker 3: they released seven players put two others on injured reserve,

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Speaker 3: taking the ninety one player roster down to eighty two.

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Speaker 4: I don't know that you.

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Speaker 3: Would call any of the cuts surprising, but the process

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Speaker 3: has begun and it will continue because by tomorrow at

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Speaker 3: So a lot of work still to be done here

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Speaker 3: to get this roster where it needs to be in

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Speaker 3: approximately twenty seven hours time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and well, I don't know. They're just having a

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Speaker 2: walk through today. They'll probably make the announcements before two

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Speaker 2: o'clock tomorrow, which is when they're scheduled to have practice tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: They won't make guys go out and practice and then

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Speaker 2: cut them after that.

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Speaker 3: I would think, so, well, no, you run the risk

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Speaker 3: a bigger problem.

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Speaker 2: So we'll find out soon enough. It's a difficult day

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Speaker 2: in the NFL. A lot of coaches will always tall

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Speaker 2: you the worst day of the year because you know,

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Speaker 2: you think about it. We Brownie and I even we've

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Speaker 2: been sitting here for six months watching these guys practice

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Speaker 2: all mostly almost ninety of them all the time and

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Speaker 2: with rare exception, and you get to know them. You

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Speaker 2: get to watch them play and watch them practice. The

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Speaker 2: coaches are doing their best to coach them up, talk

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Speaker 2: to them, they form relationships, they hang out away from

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Speaker 2: the football field together, and then you know there are

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Speaker 2: guys that will leave this building tomorrow, today or tomorrow

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Speaker 2: and you never see them again. Seriously, just you know

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Speaker 2: they go on and live their life. Even if they

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Speaker 2: go to another team, there's no chance you ever cross

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Speaker 2: paths with them again. It's a tough day, particularly after

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Speaker 2: you invest so much effort and practice and working together

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Speaker 2: and being teammates together. And yeah, it's the weirdest time.

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Speaker 2: It's no fun. And I've heard somebody say today's it's

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Speaker 2: difficult to work your whole life to try and get

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Speaker 2: into the National Football League and then finally somebody says,

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Speaker 2: you know what, you're just not good enough. Not all

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Speaker 2: of them will hear that, not all, it's not true

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Speaker 2: for all of them, but you know, there's just not

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Speaker 2: a place for him on this team. It's a hard

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Speaker 2: thing to hear. Yes, and it's you know, for all

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Speaker 2: of us out here, I mean a little bit, it's

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Speaker 2: almost something a little ghoulish, just like I wonder how

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Speaker 2: much how this is going to affect my fantasy team.

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Speaker 2: You know, for most of them, it's like, come on,

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Speaker 2: but yeah, that's the it's a cold hearted business, it is.

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Speaker 3: And you know, I think the players know what they

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Speaker 3: sign up for. I really, I really will say that.

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Speaker 3: I thought coach McDermott, who addressed the media after the

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Speaker 3: game on Saturday, he kind of shared what he shared

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Speaker 3: was a great message. No matter what happens, you know,

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Speaker 3: in the next three or four days, you're all going

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Speaker 3: to be okay. You're all going to be fine, whether

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Speaker 3: you're playing so somewhere else. You know, whether your football

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Speaker 3: career comes to an end, you're gonna be fine. Everybody's

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Speaker 3: gonna be good. I thought that was the right tone

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Speaker 3: to strike because you know, these guys are on pins

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Speaker 2: And it's not all of them, but yes, for sure,

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Speaker 2: and they and some of them. I mean I was

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Speaker 2: I thought, I don't know. I mean, I thought I

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Speaker 2: just it is absolutely an emotional roller coaster. I feel

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Speaker 3: So there are decisions to be made for the Bills

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Speaker 3: and thirty one other teams around the league and some

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Speaker 3: teams are making more player releases today. That's been happening

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Speaker 3: kind of throughout the morning as some of the teams

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Speaker 3: just some initial cutting. You know, ten to twelve players

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Speaker 4: A decision as.

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Speaker 3: You know some of the players that are quite literally

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Speaker 3: which will take a little more debate between coaches and

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Speaker 3: of that will be done here in short order. And

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Speaker 3: we kind of discussed the preseason at large for the

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Speaker 3: in a little bit. But I think on Saturday there

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Speaker 3: I think there were a handful of players that did

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Speaker 4: A little bit.

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Speaker 3: We probably should qualify this is around the NFL material,

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Speaker 3: So let's do that we'll go around the NFL here presented.

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Speaker 4: By Kalaida Healthy, official healthcare system of the Buffalo.

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Speaker 3: Bills and NFL Networks. Tom Pelasero just came down with

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Speaker 3: this just before we came on air. The NFL's emergency

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Speaker 3: third quarterback rule will still exist this season, but not

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Speaker 3: as the league intended. That's because the Players Association blocked

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Speaker 3: the updated rule from taking effect. So Tom Pelisero from

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Speaker 3: NFL Network is reporting that this offseason's update was going

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Speaker 3: to allow teams an unlimited number of practice squad elevations

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Speaker 3: for a third quarterback, which effectively gives a club an unlimited,

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Speaker 3: unlimited opportunity to pull a third quarterback up from their

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Speaker 3: practice squad and elevate them an innumerable number of times

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Speaker 3: in a given season. You're essentially stashing a third quarterback

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Speaker 2: Right you might think that's I mean, why would the

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Speaker 2: And I'm this is me guessing the NFLPA has a

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Speaker 4: The guy that's the problem. That's exactly the problem.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the NFL would just want to have a

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Speaker 3: The whole, the whole reason that came about in the

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Speaker 2: And for anybody, any rational person, that's irrelevant. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 2: will never happen. Don't. Yeah, you're not gonna have the players,

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Speaker 2: but you got a guy who's gonna play. It was

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Speaker 2: very reactionary. Yes, it's a reactionary rule. If you're gonna

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Speaker 2: the fifty fourth guys. You got to have three quarterbacks, right,

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Speaker 2: you know, that's it. And so but the league didn't

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Speaker 3: So by vetoing that, the rule reverts to what it

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Speaker 4: And basically.

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Speaker 3: You can have you can have a quarterback on your

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Speaker 4: Fifty three to fifty five.

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Speaker 3: But then if you dress one and sit the other elevation,

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Speaker 3: they have to show up on your inn active list,

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Speaker 3: Payton already said he's going to keep all three quarterbacks

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Speaker 4: That's what he told the media over the weekend. So

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Speaker 3: That's not gonna be every team, and the Bills have

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Speaker 2: Roster right and with and it's the old thing. If

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Speaker 2: Joe Burrow, you name it, Lamar, when that guy goes down,

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Speaker 2: so does your season. There's no use thinking you're gonna

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Speaker 2: no reason to spend that kind of effort and money

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Speaker 2: You're gonna have to figure it out somehow, some way

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Speaker 2: after the guy goes down anyway, and your quarterback is

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Speaker 2: gonna be well, Fans here in Buffalo remember the drought.

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Speaker 2: So that's what it's gonna be like, if your quarterback

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Speaker 2: So you just want to have somebody who knows the words,

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Speaker 2: elevate the quarterback, but you do need a guy. It's

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Speaker 2: like it's like we talk about with these safeties change

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Speaker 2: You know this thing that happened with San Francisco last

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Speaker 2: year where they got like five quarterbacks go down and

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Speaker 2: they've got virtually in.

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Speaker 3: The NFC title game two years ago against Philly. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean it's cost him a trip to the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it did very much so, and because of that,

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Speaker 2: they think, well, I don't know, hey, if you want

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Speaker 2: What they were doing is legally it would make it

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Speaker 3: The reason this is interesting is because Ernest Jones was

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Speaker 4: And I went and looked at their depth chart.

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Speaker 2: He's got some leverage too, leading tackler from last Sea.

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Speaker 2: It's not just your defense. He's not just a guy, right,

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Speaker 4: Mean, he's got the green dot on his helm.

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Speaker 2: If he played a different position, you know, if he

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Speaker 4: And he had one hundred tackle season the year before

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's I mean, he's just getting so many of them.

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Speaker 3: Well, his former defensive coordinators in Atlanta is the head

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Speaker 4: He might be interested.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. This would be front page story

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Speaker 2: But because he's playing a linebacker, it's like and some

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Speaker 4: Guy, you get a linebacker back, don't you.

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Speaker 2: Maybe, well they got it. They got ninety guys on

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Speaker 3: I think the thing that strikes me the most is

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Speaker 2: But it's also fertile out there. You got thirty one

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Speaker 4: That one really struck me today. I was surprised to

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Speaker 2: Now it's a I mean, his final year. I don't

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Speaker 2: But that's the compensation going back to the rams is

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Speaker 2: But if they talked to his agent and they said

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Speaker 3: It was Baltimore's offensive line coach since twenty seventeen, and

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Speaker 3: You let us know at eighth three zero, five point

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Speaker 6: Tom Good? Afternoon, gentlemen, Let's talk about this during the game.

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Speaker 6: I understand we're short on players and we had to

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Speaker 6: practice squad, you gave him too much tape. Because now

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Speaker 6: eighteen runs one hundred yards, one hundred and one yards,

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Speaker 6: eighteen carries, one hundred and one yards, and then Alice, Yeah,

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Speaker 6: Andresen there, I thank you, But Andresen, I mean he

441
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Speaker 6: played the whole game at Mike, and they were playing

442
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Speaker 6: him on special teams. I remember seeing him at a

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Speaker 6: punt coverage and he ran the play down and then

444
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Speaker 6: he had to get right back on the field to

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Speaker 6: play Mike for defense. They should have pulled him out

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Speaker 6: after the third quarter.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I understand where you're coming from, Tom,

448
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Speaker 3: but the numbers were short, I mean first team or

449
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Speaker 3: second teamers. First of all, Curtis Samuel has a toe injury.

450
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Speaker 3: He wasn't even available to play if they wanted him to.

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Speaker 3: So that's number one in terms of filling in at

452
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Speaker 3: running back. He's referring to how kJ Hamler went in

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Speaker 3: at the end of the game to take running back

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Speaker 3: carries because after Gore and Evans both got hurt. Evans

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Speaker 3: had a hamstring injury, Gore got his leg rolled up

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Speaker 3: on on a running play, they really didn't have another

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Speaker 3: running back to put on the field. And yeah, the

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Speaker 3: reason andreasen as long as he did was because they

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Speaker 3: were short on linebackers too. Nicholas Morro didn't play, Baylon

460
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Speaker 3: Spector was injured to Reil Bernard was not gonna play,

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Speaker 3: and neither was Dorian Williams.

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Speaker 4: So that left you with.

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Speaker 3: Dion Jones, Shane Simon, Joe Andreeson and Eddie Yulfochio. That's

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Speaker 3: all you had. You only had four going into the game.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, it was they were short. So that is

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Speaker 3: why Joe played.

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Speaker 2: And I'll give you an example. This is what they're

468
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Speaker 2: this is what they're talking about. Tom. They they care

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Speaker 2: as much about all those guys that Brownie just mentioned.

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Speaker 2: It's it's like, why didn't they pull Why didn't they

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Speaker 2: pull Anthony brown In and give him a rest and

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Speaker 2: put Josh in? Well, he answers itself. That's that's how

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Speaker 2: much they care about the guys ahead of Al Frank Gore.

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Speaker 2: That's how much they care about the guys that are

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Speaker 2: ahead of Joe and Dreesen. They care about those guys

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Speaker 2: the same way. Not that they don't care about Gord Andreesen,

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Speaker 2: but they're not depending on those guys to get into

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Speaker 2: the regular season. It's the exact same scenario. You're not

479
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Speaker 2: gonna put You're not gonna put Josh Allen in so

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Speaker 2: he can relieve Anthony Brown at the end of that game.

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Speaker 2: That's exactly the reason. That's exactly the reason they left

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Speaker 2: Joe Andriesen and Ula Fox Show out there, and that's

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Speaker 2: why they left Frank Gore Junior out there because they

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Speaker 2: didn't want to put James Cook in to relieve him

485
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Speaker 2: and the guys on that level. So that's that's the

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Speaker 2: way the game is. That's that's the way the third

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Speaker 2: preseason is. It's and it's a far cry better than

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Speaker 2: what it used to be in the fourth preseason game.

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Speaker 2: So you know, you can say what you want. That's

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Speaker 2: what the last preseason game of the summer is right there,

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Speaker 2: and it's encapsuled in what you just said. It's concerning

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Speaker 2: for those guys, but it's also what they signed up for,

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Speaker 2: so it's not the best scenario, but it's where they're at.

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Speaker 2: You've got ninety guys. You're gonna look at him and

495
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Speaker 2: some guys are gonna get all their looks in the

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Speaker 2: second and third preseason games. Some guys are gonna get

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Speaker 2: all their looks in the first preseason game. Somebody has

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Speaker 2: to play the fourth quarter or the second half of

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Speaker 2: the last preseason game. And that's that's just the way

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Speaker 2: it is, and you don't have to like it. And yet, yes,

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Speaker 2: it's a risk for everybody. What are you gonna do?

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Speaker 2: There's just no way around it. You can you could

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Speaker 2: make that argument for every single player who plays in it.

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Speaker 2: In that spot, they were all getting a tremendous amount

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Speaker 2: of reps, a ton of reps, more reps than they've

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Speaker 2: had all summer. That's what they signed up for. You

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Speaker 2: gotta give it to them. That's that's what they do,

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Speaker 2: and that's that's their time. So, uh, they're certainly not

509
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Speaker 2: gonna walk away from the reps willingly. They're gonna go

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Speaker 2: out there and play. And yeah, Gore did get nicked

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Speaker 2: and they took him out and uh, and he's gonna

512
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Speaker 2: be fine. But that's, dude, that's what you sign up for.

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's no getting around it. You can't pick

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Speaker 2: and choose. You can only pick and choose who plays.

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Speaker 2: You can't pick and choose who gets hurt.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, let's go to the phones again and to Stacey

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Speaker 3: and Syracuse.

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Speaker 4: What's up Stacy.

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Speaker 7: Hello, it's nice to talk to you guys. First of all,

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Speaker 7: Second about what the heck is going on with our offense.

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00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 7: Everybody was falling apower, I think, and our defense practically

522
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Speaker 7: was letting us win the game, and they practically just

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Speaker 7: I mean, they lost it for us. But I mean

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Speaker 7: Gord Junior was amazing. I love what Frank Gord Junior did.

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Speaker 7: But I mean it's one player, and even if Josh

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Speaker 7: comes back, I mean it's two players.

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Speaker 8: Our whole preseason was awful.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know that you need to worry too much, Stacy.

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Speaker 3: You have to remember there were no first teamers or

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Speaker 3: second teamers pretty much in the game, you know, at

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Speaker 3: all on Saturday.

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Speaker 2: I want to say it like ball, say it like this.

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Speaker 2: That was not the Bill's offense. Yeah, it wasn't Bill

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Speaker 2: Bill's offense.

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Speaker 3: So I understand your concern, But the priorities are different

536
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Speaker 3: in the preseason. Sure, you want to win the football game,

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Speaker 3: but really, preseasons about player evaluation and and that's why

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Speaker 3: they have second and third teamers out there.

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Speaker 2: I'm I'll give you another thing, Stacy. Coaching staffs their

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Speaker 2: job is to help their teams win games in the

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Speaker 2: regular season. They do everything they can. They scheme plays up,

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Speaker 2: they let players do what they do best. They give

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Speaker 2: them things that they really do well. They give them

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Speaker 2: plays they've seen them run at a high proficiency level.

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Speaker 2: They let them, turn them loose, let them go. That's

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Speaker 2: what coaches do, not so in the preseason. In the preseason,

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Speaker 2: coaching staffs don't do any of that. They they just

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Speaker 2: give them basic plays and turn them loose, and whatever

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Speaker 2: happens happens. They want to see them. In fact, they

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Speaker 2: go for it when they shouldn't go for it. They

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Speaker 2: kick field goals when they shouldn't kick field goals. They

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Speaker 2: you know, they run the ball when they should pass

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Speaker 2: the ball. They throw the ball short when they you know,

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Speaker 2: they need a long yardage. They throw the ball long

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Speaker 2: when they really you know, in a second and one,

556
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Speaker 2: you know, they do stuff that is out of character

557
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Speaker 2: so they can make it more difficult for their players,

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Speaker 2: the young players, the players that are trying to make

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Speaker 2: the team. They make it as difficult on them as

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Speaker 2: possible to see how they compete. They see so that's

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Speaker 2: why it looks horrible at times. That's why it looks

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Speaker 2: bad because the coaching staff is not helping them at

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Speaker 2: all by giving them good matchups. Shifts, motions, a menu

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Speaker 2: of plays. Uh, that's that's the way. That's why this

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Speaker 2: preseason is an exercise in futility for fans, but for coaches.

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Speaker 2: They put those players in spots where it's tough to

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Speaker 2: compete and look good doing it, and the coaches understand

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Speaker 2: all the nuances of that, and when they go down

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Speaker 2: and look at that film, they understand exactly how difficult

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Speaker 2: they made it on those guys, and the way they

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Speaker 2: handle it and how productive they can be in those

572
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Speaker 2: circumstances makes or breaks their career. So don't don't give

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Speaker 2: it a second thought that what you saw against the

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Speaker 2: Carolina Panthers or most notably against the Chicago Bears, that

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Speaker 2: that's what you're going to see offensively from the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 2: Nothing could be further from the truth.

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Speaker 4: That.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you may as well been watching, you know, the

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Speaker 2: New Orleans Saints on offense as much as the Buffalo Bills,

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Speaker 2: because that's how much it's going to resemble. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 2: it's just not the same. Different players, different schemes, different

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Speaker 2: play everything's different. So yeah, it's with a grain of salt.

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Speaker 2: It's ugly, but you know, understand the context.

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Speaker 4: Priorities are different.

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Speaker 3: Uh, we got to take a break here, but more

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Speaker 3: of your phone calls when we come back. Who's preseason

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Speaker 3: has put them in the best position to make the

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Speaker 3: Bills roster? You let us know at eight oh three

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Speaker 3: oh five fifty one eighty eight, five point fifty two

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Speaker 3: five poin fifty the number to get on board. We're

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Speaker 3: back in a flash here on One Bill's Live, presented

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Speaker 3: by co Lot of Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right,

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Speaker 3: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you on One Bills Live

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Speaker 3: here on a Monday, asking you who's preseason put them.

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Speaker 4: In the best position to make the roster?

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Speaker 3: You let us know what eito three, five fifty eight,

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Speaker 3: five fifty two five fifty those in the numbers to

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Speaker 3: jump on with us, and we go back to the phones.

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Speaker 4: And Judy in Buffalo, what's up? Judy?

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Speaker 9: Okay?

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Speaker 8: Two things, no more and more. I know he hasn't

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Speaker 8: played much, but I'm beginning to think that Keen o'cole

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Speaker 8: may and fast be mediocre. I don't understand why the

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Speaker 8: Bills cannot find offensive talent to help one of the

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Speaker 8: best quarterbacks in the league. This has been going on

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Speaker 8: for years. Okay, I hope I'm wrong. Secondly, we have

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Speaker 8: a backup quarterback that is very suspicious, and you know,

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Speaker 8: the backup quarterback I would love to get with the

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Speaker 8: Raster cups coming up.

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Speaker 6: I don't know if.

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Speaker 8: It's possible, but you know, I really think mac Jones

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Speaker 8: is has more talent than people realize. I know he's

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Speaker 8: backing up somewhere. I just know if he's available, I

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Speaker 8: hope somehow the Bills pick him up. All right, both

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Speaker 8: are comments.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks me sving mac Jones in Jacksonville.

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Speaker 3: Right, And I think he's going to end up being

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Speaker 3: the backup quarterback there By all accounts, he has outperformed CJ. Bethard,

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Speaker 3: who the last few years has been their backup quarterback.

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Speaker 3: But he also suffered a groin injury in the team's

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Speaker 3: second preseason game. He did not play this past weekend

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Speaker 3: because of that injury. So I think I think mac

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Speaker 3: Jones is not going to be available. He's going to

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Speaker 3: be the backup in Jacksonville.

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Speaker 2: And Keon Coleman may be mediocre, but I would disagree

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Speaker 2: with it with your assessment, Judy. I don't think Keon

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Speaker 2: Coleman is gonna be mediocre. I think he's gonna be

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Speaker 2: pretty good. That we may be.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, but hold your water is what I have.

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Speaker 2: Seen good things from him.

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Speaker 4: He hasn't played a regular season game yet, let's give.

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Speaker 2: He got two targets in the preseason two. Now I

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Speaker 2: listen to the chance. He may not be Julio Jones

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Speaker 2: or Calvin Johnson or you know, or Jerry Rice or what,

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Speaker 2: but not many people are. I think the guy is

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Speaker 2: gonna be good. Let's give him a chance and see.

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Speaker 4: Over to Ryan in Toronto.

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Speaker 5: What's up Ryan, Chris Steve?

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Speaker 9: Question for you guys. You gotta talk about backup quarterback?

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Speaker 9: Why is he signed? Miss to be scree first place?

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Speaker 9: And secondly, why to a two year contract? He has

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00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 9: not done nothing in Pittsburgh? And why does he not

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00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 9: open up item? See cousin Wentz was available? How do

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Speaker 9: you miss this?

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Speaker 4: Well? I think you have to look at Carson Wentz.

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Speaker 3: With I mean, don't look at him with rose colored glasses,

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Speaker 3: is kind of how I would put it. He's played

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Speaker 3: for about three different teams in the last three seasons.

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Speaker 3: None of them have gone well for him. There is

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Speaker 3: a narrative out there that he is not the best teammate,

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00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:21,320
Speaker 3: can't handle hard coaching, so in my estimation, that doesn't

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Speaker 3: really fit Bill's DNA, So that's probably the reason he

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Speaker 3: is not here, nor is he a consideration. And then

654
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Speaker 3: with respect to Mitch Trubisky, you're right, he did sign

655
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:35,839
Speaker 3: a two year contract here. I think largely how his

656
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 3: first stint with the Bills went, and it went well,

657
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 3: was a big reason why they pursued him this time

658
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 3: after a year in Pittsburgh. Now, is he a different

659
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 3: quarterback than he was two years ago? Perhaps, and some

660
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Speaker 3: of his preseason performances were not the best.

661
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Speaker 4: I'd be the first to agree with that.

662
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Speaker 3: So we'll have to see what their ultimate assessment is

663
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Speaker 3: and where they decide to go from here. I think

664
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Speaker 3: the first priority is getting him healthy after suffering the

665
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Speaker 3: knee injury in the Pittsburgh preseason game.

666
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm everything that Brownie said. There's he did not

667
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 2: look good against Chicago. Uh or I'm sorry against well,

668
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:19,359
Speaker 2: either team Pittsburgh or Chicago both were and coincidentally were

669
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Speaker 2: his former teams, and uh, I don't think that had

670
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 2: anything to do with it. But yeah, you're right, And

671
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 2: there's been a lot of clutching of pearls and ringing

672
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,879
Speaker 2: of hands about mister Trubisky and how bad he did look.

673
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,799
Speaker 2: Let's face it, mister Trubisky isn't the only guy on

674
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Speaker 2: the offensive side of the ball. As we've been told

675
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 2: here already by some people, the offense does not look

676
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Speaker 2: good in the preseason. And the only thing he've got

677
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,839
Speaker 2: to say about it is none of the guys who

678
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 2: are actually going to be playing offense were playing offense

679
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Speaker 2: when they look bad, So that in and of itself

680
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Speaker 2: kind of yeah. The backup quarterback is an issue. Most

681
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 2: teams in the league are not completely satisfied with the guy,

682
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Speaker 2: particularly teams with franchise quarterbacks like the Bills have. Because

683
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Speaker 2: anybody you get it back up for your team, whether

684
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 2: you're Kansas City, Buffalo, Baltimore, the Chargers, the Rams, go

685
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 2: down the list, the Bengals, none of those backup quarterbacks

686
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 2: on any of those teams are gonna stack up to

687
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Speaker 2: the guy they're backing up. And that's just you're gonna

688
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 2: have to live with it. And I don't mean that

689
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 2: to be to resign it that the guy's gonna have

690
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Speaker 2: to stink. They're gonna help the guy. If the guy

691
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 2: has to play, they'll do everything they can to make

692
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Speaker 2: him successful. I don't think too many guys were doing

693
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Speaker 2: that this preseason with Mitch Trubisky. None of the coaches

694
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Speaker 2: we're trying to do that with Mitch Trubisky. So I'm

695
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:45,399
Speaker 2: and none of the other teams around the league we're

696
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 2: trying to do with their guy either, unless you want

697
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Speaker 2: to talk about Chicago and Denver.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So.

699
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Speaker 2: All of that being, you're thrown into the stew Yeah,

700
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Speaker 2: the backup quarterback is always going to be a hot topic,

701
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Speaker 2: particularly when you've got a guy like Josh, who you

702
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,280
Speaker 2: know so much rides on you need. You want somebody

703
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Speaker 2: else who can do exactly what Josh can do. That

704
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 2: guy's not out there.

705
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Speaker 3: Yeah, let's get back to the phones and to mow

706
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Speaker 3: in Tanawanda.

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Speaker 4: What do you got for us?

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Speaker 3: Mo?

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Speaker 10: Hey, guys, how you doing, mister Brown, mister Tasker, nice

710
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Speaker 10: to talk to you.

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Speaker 4: Thanks for calling Hanks.

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Speaker 10: Uh, mister Brown, congratulations and your promotion.

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Speaker 4: Thank you. I appreciate that.

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Speaker 10: You're awesome, mister Tasker. Let me tell you something. I

715
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Speaker 10: remember the day I was at Risk Stadium maybe it was,

716
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Speaker 10: and you just ran that kickoff back for a touchdown

717
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Speaker 10: on the on side kick against the Raiders in the

718
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Speaker 10: championship game. I'm pretty sure that happened the list, you know,

719
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Speaker 10: because I'm old now, maybe dementia, but I'm pretty sure

720
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Speaker 10: you did that. And that was crazy.

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Speaker 2: Well it wasn't a touchdown, but I did. I did

722
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Speaker 2: catch it. Yeah, thanks, appreciate it.

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Speaker 10: Man. I was there. I had a sign that said

724
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Speaker 10: neck bone, which was Haul Hogan signed. I mean, that

725
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,439
Speaker 10: was so long ago, we don't even think about it.

726
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Speaker 10: It goes buy in the blink of a NYE. Yeah,

727
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Speaker 10: but I disagree with you about a backup quarterback. Miss

728
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Speaker 10: t Taska. Earl morrole was there when I was a kid,

729
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Speaker 10: a hosteller for the Giants who beat us. Hell, there

730
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Speaker 10: was Frank right. You know, I think a backup quarterback

731
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Speaker 10: is really important. I just want to know what you

732
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Speaker 10: thought about that. And you know, we play thirteen different teams,

733
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Speaker 10: you know, so we got to be ready for this

734
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Speaker 10: and nobody knows what the offense is going to be

735
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Speaker 10: like until we start playing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, and you're right there. There have been cases,

737
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Speaker 2: some recent and some in the in the distant past

738
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Speaker 2: where the backup quarterback has you know, saved the season.

739
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Speaker 2: Most notably, you know Nick Foles in the Philadelphia Eagles

740
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Speaker 2: when Carson Wentz went down, having Wentz was having an

741
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Speaker 2: MVP season, and Foles come he goes down, Foles comes in,

742
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Speaker 2: they win the Super Bowl. Earl Morale, same thing he

743
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Speaker 2: comes in for? Or who was it Don Greasy, Bob Greasy,

744
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Speaker 2: Bob Greasy? I think he comes in for Bob Greasy

745
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:12,320
Speaker 2: finishes that season. Frank Reich won a couple of playoff

746
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Speaker 2: games for the Buffalo Bills. You're right, backup quarterbacks can

747
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Speaker 2: do it. But I'll say this, the teams also that

748
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Speaker 2: I just mentioned were also super super Bowl caliber rosters.

749
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Speaker 2: And if the Bills are the team we think they are,

750
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Speaker 2: they certainly got to be thought of as a contender.

751
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Speaker 2: They're four straight division titles under their belt, a coaching

752
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Speaker 2: staff that is intact, a lot of new faces, no question,

753
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Speaker 2: but athletically we've talked about some of the new that

754
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 2: should be even better. So maybe you're thinking a backup

755
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 2: quarterback could do the same here in Buffalo as Earl

756
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Speaker 2: Moral did, as Frank Reich did, as Nick Foles did,

757
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Speaker 2: as what another one just there another one out there?

758
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Speaker 2: Maybe I don't know. I can't think of one. It's

759
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 2: a short list, and some of and the names on it,

760
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 2: Jeff Hostetler, they go, that's thirty more than thirty years ago.

761
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Speaker 2: Some of those names they're few and far between, and

762
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Speaker 2: don't I don't know how much. And I'll say this too,

763
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Speaker 2: most of those backups that we're talking about had a

764
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 2: long tenure with the team. They actually finally came in

765
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 2: and played for. It wasn't like coming in one year

766
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Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, they're the guy. It was

767
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Speaker 2: a guy who is in Frank's case, they were drafted

768
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Speaker 2: by him, Earl Morriles case, I was drafted by him. Hostetler.

769
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Speaker 2: You know, those guys had a stint of a couple

770
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:39,799
Speaker 2: of years in that system and with that group and

771
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 2: with those players that they could make it work and

772
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 2: the club could build it around them, or at least

773
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Speaker 2: build around them so that they could be successful. You're

774
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Speaker 2: not going to tell me that Jeff Hostetler was the

775
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 2: reason Brunt the Giants won the Super Bowl. He was

776
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 2: the quarterback. But they also had Lawrence Taylor and a

777
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 2: bunch of dudes, and they had Bill Parcells, Bill Belichick,

778
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 2: and Tom Coughlin on that staff. Over there, there's a

779
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 2: lot of really good football coaches over there, so you

780
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 2: know that, Yes, the backup quarterback if he has I'm

781
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 2: just saying, if it has to if he has to play,

782
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 2: how much of a drop off are you going to

783
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 2: automatically take no matter who goes in there. And I

784
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:24,439
Speaker 2: don't know how much effort you want to put into

785
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Speaker 2: the difference.

786
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Speaker 4: Yeah, but it will be different.

787
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Speaker 3: We have to take a break here, but more of

788
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Speaker 3: your phone calls when we return. Paul and Hamburg, Diana

789
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 3: and Florida will get to you when we get back here.

790
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Speaker 3: On one Bill's Live Stay with.

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Speaker 11: Us Herd in motion pitch play to the right, working

792
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Speaker 11: off a block, finding the end zone as he lunges

793
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 11: over the goal line for a five yard touchdown run

794
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 11: just like his papa, Frank Gore Junior into the end

795
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Speaker 11: zone for the touchdown.

796
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Speaker 3: All right, that is this week's Player of the Game,

797
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 3: running back Frank Or Junior eighteen carries one hundred one

798
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 3: yards and a Tuddy Player of the Game, presented by Wegmans,

799
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Speaker 3: the official tailgate headquarters of the Buffalo Bills. I happened

800
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 3: to just see it because they did preseason league leaders.

801
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Speaker 3: Frank Gore, the AFC leader in rushing yards in the preseason.

802
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 2: Yeah he was.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think he had one hundred and sixty three

804
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:39,399
Speaker 4: total in three games. So good for him. Nice job

805
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:39,839
Speaker 4: by him.

806
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Speaker 3: I don't think it's enough to make the fifty three

807
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 3: man roster, but I think he will get some I

808
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:47,320
Speaker 3: think legitimate consideration for the practice.

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Speaker 2: I think the guys he was playing with, they weren't starters.

810
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 2: But I'll tell you what. Here's the thing, and here's

811
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Speaker 2: the frustrating thing for players. You know, he gets to

812
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 2: the edge right there and gets on the corner. I

813
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 2: think the thing for players is, you know how Now,

814
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 2: certainly Frank Gore could have you know, he likes Okay,

815
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 2: maybe he could have taken that when the distance right,

816
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 2: I mean that. But man, the guy seemed to get

817
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:18,320
Speaker 2: every yard he needed, every yard coming to him. I

818
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 2: don't think he has home run speed, but he gets

819
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 2: he gets what he's supposed to get. It's north south,

820
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 2: and he goes north south. He makes guys miss, he

821
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:34,760
Speaker 2: breaks contact, breaks tackles, finishes runs well, and not for nothing.

822
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Speaker 2: He did not put the ball on the carpet at

823
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 2: all either. So I'm you know, and that's the frustrating thing.

824
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Speaker 2: The reason I'm saying that is because you know, he's

825
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 2: got to sit there thinking I couldn't have done anymore. Yep,

826
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Speaker 2: I could not have done anymore. The problem is you've

827
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Speaker 2: got other guys who, in practices and other games are

828
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 2: just better. They're faster, they do the things you did,

829
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Speaker 2: and the coaching staff sitting there going, well, if we'd

830
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Speaker 2: have had our number one in there, we'd gotten more

831
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Speaker 2: out of that play that kind of stuff. But for Gore,

832
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 2: he's got nothing, but he should be nothing but proud

833
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 2: of the preseason he put together for the Buffalo Bills

834
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Speaker 2: this year. He and others, you know, Joe Andreesen too.

835
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Speaker 2: There's no guarantee that Joe and Reesen is going to

836
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Speaker 2: make the club, but he played extremely well, got some

837
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:21,359
Speaker 2: unexpected exposure, unexpected reps due to the injuries around him,

838
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Speaker 2: and that probably could be the reason he gets propelled

839
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Speaker 2: onto the fifty three. F indeed does make it us.

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Speaker 2: I don't know that he would have gotten as much

841
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Speaker 2: a look if all those other guys would have been healthy,

842
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:33,360
Speaker 2: and maybe the coat he would not have been able

843
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:36,880
Speaker 2: to convince the coaches that he was good enough. So

844
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,320
Speaker 2: maybe there is some good fortune in there that guys

845
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 2: like Joe Andreesen or Frank Gore.

846
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 4: Got and other guys don't got to get a little lucky.

847
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 2: Sometimes sometimes you got to get lucky and you got

848
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 2: to get opportunity. But when you do make the most

849
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 2: of it, you can make the most of it.

850
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Speaker 3: Let's get back to the phones where we're asking you

851
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 3: who put together a preseason that put them in position

852
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 3: to make the right eight O, THREEH five fifty is

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Speaker 3: the number to get on board.

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Speaker 4: We go to Paul in Hamburg next.

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Speaker 12: What's up, Paul, Hey, thanks for taking McCall sure. I

856
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 12: have a question for you. This game didn't really count.

857
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 12: We're playing all our backups, just going through the motions

858
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:20,839
Speaker 12: to get the game over so they can get off

859
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:23,800
Speaker 12: the field. But with four psuckers are going to half,

860
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 12: McDermott calls a time out to try the Eister kicker.

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Speaker 12: I don't understand the purpose of that. I don't hang

862
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Speaker 12: up and listen.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, no problem, Paul.

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Speaker 3: I think you would agree that Sean McDermott wants to

865
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Speaker 3: replicate the regular season as much as possible in every way,

866
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 3: shape and form with his players, and I think he

867
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:48,839
Speaker 3: was practicing what he preaches by doing that. You got

868
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 3: timeouts that you're going to lose at halftime anyway, use

869
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 3: them or lose them, you know. Yeah, So it's an

870
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:58,399
Speaker 3: opportunity for him to go through that exercise. And any

871
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 3: coach in this league that has an opportun tune and

872
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 3: need to replicate the regular season and exercise the things

873
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:04,880
Speaker 3: that they would do in a normal game, they're going

874
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 3: to do them right. And that I think that was

875
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 3: an example of it.

876
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 2: Like I said, you know, through play call and scheme

877
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 2: and personnel and all of that, the coaches really aren't

878
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 2: jumping through hoops to help their players, but they are

879
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 2: doing what they're supposed to do. And in regards to

880
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 2: give let's let's give the let's ice the guy, let's

881
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 2: make you know what I mean, Let's do that. We're

882
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:27,720
Speaker 2: going to do that kind of stuff to make ourselves

883
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,840
Speaker 2: better and stuff. He's got new people up in the

884
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 2: booth and it's a new coaching staff. They're gonna do

885
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 2: everything they can to make it seem like and they're

886
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 2: gonna make decisions. Although some of the decisions they made

887
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 2: even in the game the other day, were because it

888
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:41,799
Speaker 2: was pre season. I think there's a couple of times

889
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 2: maybe where they gave bass a field goal where instead

890
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 2: and maybe in the regular season they go for it

891
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:52,359
Speaker 2: kind of thing. Some of that stuff goes on. But yeah,

892
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 2: I mean that's just that's just game management that they

893
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 2: want to go through and the go through the exercise.

894
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 2: He say, go through the motions. Well, they want to

895
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 2: go through those motions. I want to get what it

896
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:02,840
Speaker 2: feels like to have the and the voice and the

897
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 2: things say hey we should ice the guy here, don't

898
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 2: forget Yeah, and he and yeah, you're right. If you're

899
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 2: saying they're going through the motions, I get the attitude

900
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 2: of that. But if they're going to go through the motions,

901
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 2: that's one of them they want to go through. Now

902
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:18,760
Speaker 2: that's that simple.

903
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,280
Speaker 4: There is breaking news in the NFL.

904
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 3: ESPN's Adam Schefter reporting that CD Lamb and the Cowboys

905
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 3: have reached an agreement today on a four year contract

906
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 3: worth one hundred thirty six million dollars, now makes him

907
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 3: the second highest paid non quarterback in NFL history.

908
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:41,359
Speaker 4: The deal includes a thirty.

909
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 3: Eight million dollars signing bonus, the largest ever given to

910
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:51,800
Speaker 3: a wide receiver. Four years one hundred thirty six million.

911
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:55,799
Speaker 2: Divide that by four with twenty four million four and

912
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 2: that's forty four thirty four million. I couldn't figure it out, man,

913
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 2: I couldn't get it. Thirty four million dollars a year.

914
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:04,359
Speaker 2: Bless his heart. Well, there you go.

915
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 4: That's a big jump from where it was just a

916
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 4: little while ago. Who had it.

917
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 3: Justin Jefferson had the highest paid yeah receiver contracts thirty

918
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:14,360
Speaker 3: four million.

919
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 4: It went from thirty to thirty four in one offseason.

920
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:20,760
Speaker 4: And we're talking average annual salary.

921
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,800
Speaker 2: So I'll say this team, you know, and there's always

922
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 2: going to be somebody out there, and I'll say this too,

923
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 2: you're more likely, in my opinion, a guy like Ceedee Lamb,

924
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 2: unlike Tyreek Hill. You're more likely to get a deal

925
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 2: like that from the team you have been playing for

926
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 2: already than a new team. Now, Miami Dolphins were the

927
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 2: exception of that when they gave Tyreek Hill than thirty

928
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 2: million dollars a year contract. But I think, and I

929
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:49,319
Speaker 2: don't have any I'm just saying anecdotally, it makes more

930
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 2: logical sense to me that a team would be willing

931
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:56,879
Speaker 2: to pay a guy more like this contract if they

932
00:49:56,920 --> 00:50:00,040
Speaker 2: knew him personally, they knew what made him tick, and

933
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 2: they were going to get him the most out of him.

934
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 2: I don't think he'd give a guy guy this kind

935
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:06,279
Speaker 2: of contract if you think he's gonna shut it down.

936
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:08,720
Speaker 2: And how do you know that if you're the Miami

937
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 2: Dolphins signing Tyreek Hill. You know, now, certainly Tyreek's played

938
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 2: well for him and it's a moot point at this

939
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 2: at this place. But you know what I mean. I

940
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 2: just think it's more likely for a team to re

941
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 2: sign a guy for a record contract rather than go

942
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 2: someplace else for a record contract.

943
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 4: But because they know the commodity better than anybody.

944
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:27,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you got to know, don't You have to

945
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 2: really know the guy.

946
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you feel comfortable paying top dollar because you

947
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 3: know what you're getting.

948
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 2: Just as soon as you say that, though you have

949
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 2: to acknowledge thirty one other teams, somebody out there is

950
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 2: gonna say, nah, well yeah, shoot, no, I want that guy.

951
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:44,879
Speaker 2: You know. It's all about some owner out there going

952
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:47,719
Speaker 2: seeing the new shiny thing on the shelves and pay

953
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:49,799
Speaker 2: for it. I want it, you know.

954
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:53,279
Speaker 3: Wild Well, that deal was up in the air for

955
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:56,400
Speaker 3: a while. It's done now. Apparently it's that time of

956
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 3: year too. Think about it, folks, you're gonna see some

957
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 3: deals get done in the next couple of weeks as

958
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:03,279
Speaker 3: they clear they still got Prescott to figure out entering

959
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:05,840
Speaker 3: the last year of his deal, so we'll see what happens.

960
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:07,879
Speaker 2: You're gonna see that maybe all around the league where

961
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 2: teams will start signing guys to those deals to get

962
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 2: them under you know, get some cost certainty going forward

963
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:13,279
Speaker 2: after this year.

964
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 3: Ye gotta take a break here because we're up against

965
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:17,880
Speaker 3: the clock, and when we come back, we're gonna be

966
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:20,800
Speaker 3: joined by my broadcast partner, Eric Wood, get his thoughts

967
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:24,239
Speaker 3: on preseason game number three, the preseason at large, and

968
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 3: maybe some of his thoughts on what we could be

969
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:29,240
Speaker 3: looking at with the fifty three man roster for the Bills.

970
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 3: Tomorrow at four pm. That's coming up next year on

971
00:51:32,120 --> 00:52:54,880
Speaker 3: One Bills Live presented by Colta Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

972
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:23,359
Speaker 1: The One Bills Live presented by Calida Health.

973
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:25,360
Speaker 4: All right, here we are hour.

974
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 3: Number two on a Monday, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you.

975
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 3: Please to be joined now by the radio color analyst

976
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:33,760
Speaker 3: the Bills Radio Network, also the host of the Centered

977
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:34,840
Speaker 3: on Buffalo podcast.

978
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 4: It's my broadcast partner, Eric Wood, and Eric.

979
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:40,240
Speaker 3: Thanks for giving us some time here on a Monday,

980
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:45,359
Speaker 3: and I guess maybe just put your bow on the

981
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 3: Bills preseason and maybe give us an idea on where

982
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:56,479
Speaker 3: you think some of the tougher decisions position wise lie

983
00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 3: on this Bill's roster for this coaching staff and personnel

984
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 3: department to get down to the number they need to

985
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 3: by tomorrow.

986
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:05,359
Speaker 13: Yeah, I think when you look at the way this

987
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 13: preseason has shaken out and really the injuries, and we

988
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 13: saw injuries at receiver, we saw it at safety, we

989
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:14,360
Speaker 13: saw it at linebacker, and so those seemed to me

990
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 13: to be where a lot of these big decisions are

991
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 13: gonna lie, especially if the Bills are going to keep

992
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:22,760
Speaker 13: just five receivers again, who's gonna be that fifth receiver?

993
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 13: Will it be Valdez Scantling, will it be Shavers? And

994
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 13: there's just Isabella. It's gonna be interesting to see how

995
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 13: all that shakes out. The safety position has been a

996
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:36,760
Speaker 13: nightmare with all of the injuries, and then you lose

997
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 13: the consistency see that you've had there over the years.

998
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:41,440
Speaker 13: With Jordan Porter and Micah Hyde both not being on

999
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 13: the team. You address that position through the draft. You

1000
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:47,279
Speaker 13: have Taylor Rapp, who played a good mount last year

1001
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:50,799
Speaker 13: and then just the injuries stacked up, and then the

1002
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:53,480
Speaker 13: linebacker position seems to be interesting. Dion Jones was a

1003
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:56,280
Speaker 13: guy that I thought he could potentially be the starting

1004
00:53:56,640 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 13: will linebacker a couple of weeks ago heading into the season.

1005
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 13: If Dorian Williams wasn't able to be, if they didn't

1006
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 13: have a lot of confidence in him in coverage, well

1007
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:07,720
Speaker 13: then he was one of the first players released.

1008
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 5: At cutdown time.

1009
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 13: And so it's gonna be interesting to see really who

1010
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:14,959
Speaker 13: that fifth receiver is and then kind of the back

1011
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 13: end of that linebacking corps to see who makes this roster.

1012
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's always a puzzle, you know, as to

1013
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:24,360
Speaker 2: who will fill what rules because you know there's always

1014
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 2: a bunch of must haves you gotta have on the roster,

1015
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 2: you know, kick return, punt return guys, you gotta have

1016
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:33,399
Speaker 2: special teams guys, and where those guys come from also

1017
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 2: says something about how many guys at that spot you keep.

1018
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 2: So if they go five wide receivers, that would mean

1019
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 2: that probably like like a dB like dayk One Hardy

1020
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:43,880
Speaker 2: can make the team because he can redo the punt returning,

1021
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 2: kick returning where you don't need an extra wide receiver,

1022
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:48,840
Speaker 2: a guy who handles the ball to do it, or

1023
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 2: maybe it's gonna be a running back somebody like that.

1024
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:54,719
Speaker 2: So piece and those skill sets together really becomes something

1025
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:57,359
Speaker 2: we can't tell. That's what the great unknown for all

1026
00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:59,400
Speaker 2: of us. If you're gonna pick the five best wideouts,

1027
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 2: might I'll be as difficult until you sprinkle in the

1028
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:06,879
Speaker 2: anciliary roles that the three, four and five wide out

1029
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 2: have to fill.

1030
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:11,359
Speaker 13: Yeah, You're exactly right. Daikwan Hardy is a guy that

1031
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:14,719
Speaker 13: I'm extremely excited about. I thought he got better each

1032
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:17,760
Speaker 13: week with his decision making on the punt returns. Seems

1033
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 13: to be a sure handed catcher, seems to be explosive

1034
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 13: with the football when he does get the opportunity to

1035
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:26,800
Speaker 13: make a play. He's a willing runner and he's exciting

1036
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 13: to me. And then the ability to be able to

1037
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 13: even play on the outside. He had great matchups against

1038
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:35,840
Speaker 13: George Pickens six foot four, six foot five receiver for

1039
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 13: the Steelers, goes toe to toe with him out there

1040
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:40,800
Speaker 13: on the edge. Had a great game against the Steelers

1041
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 13: and then backed it up again with another solid performance

1042
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:46,399
Speaker 13: against the Panthers. That's a guy who I don't think

1043
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 13: you even have the option to try and put him

1044
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 13: on your practice squad because he'll get swiped by another

1045
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 13: team if you tried to do that. So he's a

1046
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 13: guy that I think through the preseason games really solidified

1047
00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 13: a spot on the roster this year, and then that

1048
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:02,800
Speaker 13: does give them some flexibility as well with him being

1049
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:05,959
Speaker 13: likely the primary return of this year for the Bills.

1050
00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:08,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I probably make him my most improved

1051
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:11,279
Speaker 3: player in the preseason from where he came in Week

1052
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:14,400
Speaker 3: one to Week three. He made leaps and bounds and

1053
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 3: I even asked coach McDermott after the game about his

1054
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 3: decision making specifically, and he said it was very impressive.

1055
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 3: Those are coach McDermott's words, because it wasn't only the

1056
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:27,360
Speaker 3: one at the four yard line that he let bounce

1057
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 3: into the end zone, something he did not do in

1058
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 3: Week one of the preseason. But then later in the game,

1059
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 3: there's a kickoff near the sideline and he left it

1060
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:38,279
Speaker 3: alone to see if it would go over the sideline,

1061
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:40,239
Speaker 3: and it did and it gave him a drive start

1062
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:42,719
Speaker 3: at the forty. He comes to the sideline and Coach

1063
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 3: McDermott smacking him on the rear saying great decisions. So

1064
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 3: I think he kind of solidified himself as the return

1065
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:50,320
Speaker 3: man for this team. Guys, I don't know if you

1066
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:53,120
Speaker 3: feel differently, but what he did in the last two weeks,

1067
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:55,719
Speaker 3: between the thirty one yard return at Pittsburgh and then

1068
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:58,239
Speaker 3: the decision making that he made in this last game,

1069
00:56:58,280 --> 00:56:59,279
Speaker 3: I think he locked it down.

1070
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 2: Giving him those giving him that role to begin with

1071
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 2: says he you believe he can do it. Then when

1072
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:07,359
Speaker 2: he does it as well as he did, Listen, if

1073
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:09,839
Speaker 2: they put him on the waiver wire, Chicago or Pittsburgh

1074
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 2: or Carolina will pick him up after having have him

1075
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:14,759
Speaker 2: do it to that right, So they saw it firsthand.

1076
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 2: So yeah, there are other guys like that, And certainly

1077
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 2: the story of training camp has been guys like Joe n. Dreesen,

1078
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 2: And we had we had callers already saying, hey, you know,

1079
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 2: you got to get those guys off the field because

1080
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:27,920
Speaker 2: they're too valuable. And the simple fact of the matter

1081
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 2: is somebody has to play the fourth quarter of the preseason.

1082
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:34,920
Speaker 2: It's the last half of the summer. You know, what

1083
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:37,240
Speaker 2: were some of your impressions the way the Bills finished

1084
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 2: out that game? Who jumped out to you. You know

1085
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 2: that it does say something. And those guys are out

1086
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 2: there late in the last preseason game. As good as

1087
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 2: they've played, they still had some things to prove. Yeah.

1088
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 13: On the offense side of the football, the two young

1089
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:54,840
Speaker 13: running backs really impressed me. Evans had the nice touchdown

1090
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 13: catch in that game. Appeared to have a hamstring, so

1091
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:00,480
Speaker 13: we'll see how that shakes out. But Frank Gorge, he

1092
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 13: was exciting to watch. He packed some punch in that

1093
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 13: little frame. But it's his vision in the way he

1094
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 13: makes cuts, in the quickness that he has. I mean,

1095
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 13: he he's a guy that you know, the Bills I'm

1096
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:14,840
Speaker 13: sure are looking at saying, hey, can we get this

1097
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 13: guy or even gonna be able to get him back

1098
00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 13: on our practice squad, And a guy that they'd likely

1099
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 13: be excited to elevate at some point this year if

1100
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 13: need be. He really impressed me. Some of the young

1101
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:28,840
Speaker 13: offensive linemen, Van prim Granger thought he had a nice

1102
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:31,920
Speaker 13: game in the pivot getting the start at center, and

1103
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:34,440
Speaker 13: so he'll have to work on cross training at guard

1104
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 13: to be one of those guys in uniform on Sundays.

1105
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 13: But he's the guy that I feel like made this

1106
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:42,000
Speaker 13: roster through the way that he played throughout preseason and

1107
00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:45,680
Speaker 13: in training camp. Some of the some of the receivers

1108
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:48,520
Speaker 13: looked good catching the ball. Cane used his size. Well,

1109
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 13: maybe a little too little too late from you know,

1110
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 13: some of those younger receivers trying to make a push

1111
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:56,760
Speaker 13: or some of the guys that got signed during training

1112
00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:57,280
Speaker 13: camp to make.

1113
00:58:57,200 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 5: A push for the fifty three.

1114
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:00,560
Speaker 13: But it'll be interesting to see who they try and

1115
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 13: keep on the practice squad. The tight end positions interesting

1116
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:06,480
Speaker 13: with Quintin Morris having the shoulder injury. You know, Zach

1117
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 13: Davidson has a different skill set than Quintin Morris.

1118
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:10,520
Speaker 5: If you're thinking, hey, I.

1119
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:12,800
Speaker 13: Want more of a blocker and Morris is gonna miss

1120
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 13: some time, it might be McKitty in that role and

1121
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 13: not Davidson. But Davidson sure turned some heads throughout training camp,

1122
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:21,400
Speaker 13: in the presing with preseason with his receiving ability and.

1123
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:22,680
Speaker 5: Then on the defensive side of the ball.

1124
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 13: I was excited to see if Joe Andres could do

1125
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:27,400
Speaker 13: it again repeat that success from the Steelers game. I

1126
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:30,640
Speaker 13: thought he had a nice game. He made some nice plays.

1127
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 13: Got mixed up on the touchdown pass for the walk

1128
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:36,960
Speaker 13: in on the first touchdown him and Dion Jones uh

1129
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:39,840
Speaker 13: blown coverage, but I believe that was gonna be Joe

1130
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 13: Andresen spot there in the middle of the field. But

1131
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 13: you know, he continued to show the ability to shed blocks,

1132
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 13: make tackles. He just got a great feel for the game,

1133
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:51,400
Speaker 13: and he's been he's been fun to watch it. I

1134
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:53,960
Speaker 13: was really trying to key in on those edge rushers

1135
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:56,400
Speaker 13: because it appears that the Bills will likely keep five

1136
00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:59,320
Speaker 13: defense bends and it's likely gonna have to be Javon

1137
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:02,880
Speaker 13: Solomon or Kingsley Jonathan, and I didn't think either of

1138
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:05,840
Speaker 13: those guys necessarily played a great game, but I thought

1139
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:09,120
Speaker 13: Kingsley Jonathan was able to create a little bit more

1140
01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:11,360
Speaker 13: pressure up front on that Bill's defensive front.

1141
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:12,680
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, and this will give you

1142
01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:15,400
Speaker 2: an idea. You'll understand where I'm coming from. Now, If say,

1143
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:20,120
Speaker 2: for instance, Cedric Van prang Grainger is a backup, what

1144
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:23,000
Speaker 2: would happen and what kind of consideration would you at

1145
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:27,000
Speaker 2: this point if one of the guards gets hurt, does

1146
01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:29,920
Speaker 2: Van prang Grainger have the ability to go in at

1147
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 2: guard and leave McGovern at center, or do you have

1148
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:36,080
Speaker 2: to change two positions then put McGovern back out of

1149
01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:38,560
Speaker 2: guard and Van Prant goes to center. Then he changed

1150
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:41,360
Speaker 2: two players instead. You know what I'm saying, that's really

1151
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:44,000
Speaker 2: the question, right for Van Praan Granger. Is he good

1152
01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:47,680
Speaker 2: enough to spell somebody at guard rather than have to

1153
01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:48,480
Speaker 2: go in at center.

1154
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:52,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, because ideally you're not moving two people you want.

1155
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 13: You know, if something were to happen to McGovern at

1156
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:59,920
Speaker 13: center or or Edwards at guard, you'd hate the move

1157
01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 13: two guys. So whoever's going to be that primary backup?

1158
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:05,440
Speaker 13: I believe on game days it'll be Alec Anderson at

1159
01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:07,640
Speaker 13: least for the start of the season, where he would

1160
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:09,360
Speaker 13: be a plug and play guy at any of the

1161
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:13,480
Speaker 13: three interior spots, so you wouldn't be jumping the line

1162
01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:16,640
Speaker 13: up too much. But as the season goes on, you know,

1163
01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:19,240
Speaker 13: hopefully the Bills offensive line can stay healthy like they

1164
01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:21,800
Speaker 13: did last year, but if they're not able to, that's

1165
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:23,360
Speaker 13: gonna be something we're gonna have to analyze.

1166
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:25,920
Speaker 5: Ken van Prant Granger Can he play guards so we.

1167
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:28,800
Speaker 13: Don't have to mix it up too much if just

1168
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:29,920
Speaker 13: one guy goes down.

1169
01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:33,680
Speaker 3: Let's talk about the quarterback situation, because again it's another

1170
01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:38,040
Speaker 3: position that's a little compromised by injury left knee injury

1171
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:41,720
Speaker 3: for Mitchell Trubisky suffering the Pittsburgh game, was not even

1172
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:44,640
Speaker 3: capable of suiting up for this one, which prompted the

1173
01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:46,640
Speaker 3: signing of Anthony Brown this past week.

1174
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:48,240
Speaker 4: He has since been released.

1175
01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:52,760
Speaker 3: Ben Denucci, however, in his second appearance, goes eleven to fifteen,

1176
01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:56,680
Speaker 3: passing seventy six yards, just barely missed one touchdown, pass

1177
01:01:56,720 --> 01:01:59,120
Speaker 3: had another in the game, finishes with a one zh

1178
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:04,400
Speaker 3: six five. My question to you, Eric, if Mitchell Trubisky

1179
01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:09,040
Speaker 3: is not ready to suit up for Week one because

1180
01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:12,600
Speaker 3: of this knee injury, has been Denucci done enough to

1181
01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:14,720
Speaker 3: be on this roster at least for a week one

1182
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:16,919
Speaker 3: as the backup quarterback for the Bills.

1183
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:21,480
Speaker 13: I would say not likely. And we'll see how it

1184
01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:26,200
Speaker 13: all shakes out with roster cuts. Sounds coming and if

1185
01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:28,240
Speaker 13: you know, a guy like a Kyle Allen or a

1186
01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:31,680
Speaker 13: you know, case Keenum or someone else becomes available in

1187
01:02:31,720 --> 01:02:33,840
Speaker 13: the Bills decided to go that route. You know, it

1188
01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:36,280
Speaker 13: was a tough situation that Ben Deducci got put in,

1189
01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:39,520
Speaker 13: you know, playing golf on a Sunday and then starts

1190
01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:42,520
Speaker 13: against the Steelers or plays against the Steelers that following

1191
01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:44,760
Speaker 13: week and Trubisky gets hurt and he goes in at

1192
01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:46,680
Speaker 13: the end of the first half, and so you know,

1193
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:48,080
Speaker 13: I would say not likely.

1194
01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:49,680
Speaker 5: But you know, this is a guy that.

1195
01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:52,840
Speaker 13: Did show progress from the first action he got in

1196
01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:55,560
Speaker 13: the precinct to the second getting more and more comfortable

1197
01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:56,720
Speaker 13: in Joe Brady's offense.

1198
01:02:56,960 --> 01:02:59,720
Speaker 5: But if someone's coming in, you know, pick him up

1199
01:02:59,760 --> 01:02:59,960
Speaker 5: this one.

1200
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:02,680
Speaker 13: It might be tough to get a quarterback ready for

1201
01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:06,160
Speaker 13: week one to be the primary backup, where you might say, hey,

1202
01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:08,120
Speaker 13: this guy's at least been in the system for two

1203
01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:10,120
Speaker 13: and a half weeks, and you know, if it's a

1204
01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:12,920
Speaker 13: week or two before we can get Trubisky back, you know,

1205
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:15,520
Speaker 13: this guy is gonna be our guys. So it'll be

1206
01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:18,560
Speaker 13: interesting to see how that shakes out. I'm leaning against it,

1207
01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:21,760
Speaker 13: but it wouldn't surprise me if they did, just basically,

1208
01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:25,240
Speaker 13: especially based upon the progression from the Steelers game to

1209
01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:25,960
Speaker 13: the Panthers game.

1210
01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:28,680
Speaker 2: So as we wind up get ready for Week one,

1211
01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:31,120
Speaker 2: we've got, you know, you look ahead to the Arizona Cardinals.

1212
01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:36,840
Speaker 2: They just played yesterday against Denver. Impossible to say where

1213
01:03:36,840 --> 01:03:38,680
Speaker 2: their roster is at either, because they're in the same

1214
01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:41,720
Speaker 2: limbo spot that the Bills are. But starting out one o'clock,

1215
01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:45,120
Speaker 2: what are your thoughts on where because we've had some

1216
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:48,200
Speaker 2: callers already today the Bills offense looks bad, you know

1217
01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:51,760
Speaker 2: how you know, give us you know, and I obviously

1218
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:54,200
Speaker 2: I'm not buying into that, but give us your assessment

1219
01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:56,040
Speaker 2: of where this team's gonna be Week one.

1220
01:03:57,240 --> 01:03:58,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think they're gonna be ready to roll.

1221
01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:01,360
Speaker 13: You get the Arizona coming across the country for a

1222
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:04,440
Speaker 13: one o'clock game. You always we would talk in those

1223
01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:07,360
Speaker 13: situations where we want to jump on them early, see

1224
01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:09,120
Speaker 13: if we can get them out of the game quickly,

1225
01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:11,400
Speaker 13: just based upon that's a tough adjustment for them. It's

1226
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:13,840
Speaker 13: going to feel like ten am to them when the

1227
01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:17,320
Speaker 13: kickoff it goes live. But you know, that's when you

1228
01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:20,240
Speaker 13: look at the schedule and the difficulty that the Bills have,

1229
01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:22,920
Speaker 13: you know, especially early on in the season, that Arizona

1230
01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:26,160
Speaker 13: game at home Week one essentially is they must win.

1231
01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:28,560
Speaker 13: I expect this team to come out ready to roll.

1232
01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:33,000
Speaker 13: And you know, when I understand people are judging the

1233
01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:35,800
Speaker 13: preseason and saying the offense didn't score a touchdown until

1234
01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:37,880
Speaker 13: that third preseason game, and this and that, But I

1235
01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:40,480
Speaker 13: don't have a lot of concerns for this Bills offense.

1236
01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:43,160
Speaker 13: I think they'll come out strong. The question marks come

1237
01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:45,360
Speaker 13: on the defensive side of the ball for me, and

1238
01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:48,520
Speaker 13: you know how consistent they can be at that safety

1239
01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:51,560
Speaker 13: spot and then what type of progression are we going

1240
01:04:51,640 --> 01:04:54,200
Speaker 13: to see at that will linebacker spot filling in for

1241
01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:58,400
Speaker 13: Matt Milano. Is Dorry Williams going to be a liability

1242
01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:00,760
Speaker 13: and coverage or are we going to see that year

1243
01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:04,320
Speaker 13: one to year two progression? And I hate to compare

1244
01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:06,920
Speaker 13: them because of the season Bernard had last year, but

1245
01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:10,040
Speaker 13: we saw that huge jump you're one of year two

1246
01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:13,240
Speaker 13: with Bernard. Can we see something similar from Dorian Williams

1247
01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:15,680
Speaker 13: this year? And if those two things we can get

1248
01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:19,520
Speaker 13: consistent play from the safety position and then consistent play

1249
01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:22,080
Speaker 13: at that will linebacker spot, this Bill's defense will be

1250
01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:22,479
Speaker 13: good again.

1251
01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:26,440
Speaker 3: And those two tie together with some sub package possibilities

1252
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:29,520
Speaker 3: for this team too, Eric, because you say, okay, if

1253
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:33,160
Speaker 3: the coaching staff makes the determination that maybe they want

1254
01:05:33,160 --> 01:05:35,160
Speaker 3: to go back to that dime package that they had

1255
01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:38,120
Speaker 3: last year after they lost Milano and wanted to put

1256
01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:40,720
Speaker 3: a third safety on the field to be better in coverage,

1257
01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:42,960
Speaker 3: I don't know that you can go to that right

1258
01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:45,240
Speaker 3: now because of all the injuries you've had at safety.

1259
01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:48,400
Speaker 3: So it's going to really be interesting to see what

1260
01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:52,480
Speaker 3: the coaching staff ultimately decides. You leave Dorian on the

1261
01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:54,920
Speaker 3: field and make them a three down linebacker because you

1262
01:05:55,040 --> 01:05:57,680
Speaker 3: don't have the answers at safety yet because of injury,

1263
01:05:57,880 --> 01:06:00,760
Speaker 3: or do you roll the dice and try that in

1264
01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:04,280
Speaker 3: Week one against the Cardinals in obvious passing situations. I'm

1265
01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:07,440
Speaker 3: really fascinated to see how that unfolds.

1266
01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:10,240
Speaker 13: I am too, and I think we will see that

1267
01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:13,000
Speaker 13: Don package. You know, you had it in last year.

1268
01:06:13,800 --> 01:06:18,200
Speaker 13: Guys are comfortable. They understand more of the philosophy with

1269
01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:20,640
Speaker 13: that Don package, just han't been in last year. You

1270
01:06:20,680 --> 01:06:23,840
Speaker 13: can show a guy like Cole Bishop, you can show

1271
01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:27,040
Speaker 13: him actual footage of the Bills running those packages last

1272
01:06:27,080 --> 01:06:28,760
Speaker 13: year and say, hey, this is going to be your role,

1273
01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:31,120
Speaker 13: whether that's you know, in the box like Jordan Poyer

1274
01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:32,920
Speaker 13: was last year, or if he's going to be an

1275
01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:36,160
Speaker 13: off ball safety on the back end. But I think

1276
01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:38,480
Speaker 13: they're gonna have to and you know, I think that

1277
01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:41,680
Speaker 13: creativity that they utilized last year was able to help

1278
01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:44,800
Speaker 13: stabilize that defense when Milano did get hurt and I

1279
01:06:45,640 --> 01:06:47,560
Speaker 13: anticipate seeing it week one this year.

1280
01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:50,800
Speaker 3: And then finally we had not to finish on a

1281
01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:52,560
Speaker 3: sober note here. But I know you and I were

1282
01:06:52,560 --> 01:06:56,600
Speaker 3: texting about this, but the untimely passing of Joe Dallas Sandris,

1283
01:06:56,600 --> 01:06:59,480
Speaker 3: who was battling in acute illness in the hospital, Raven's

1284
01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:02,320
Speaker 3: offensive line coach. But he spent four seasons with you

1285
01:07:02,440 --> 01:07:06,760
Speaker 3: here Eric, when you were playing under chan Gaily. Just

1286
01:07:06,800 --> 01:07:09,080
Speaker 3: any thoughts you can share just about the person that

1287
01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:11,240
Speaker 3: coach Dallas Sandris was knowing you worked with him on

1288
01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:13,160
Speaker 3: a daily basis for four seasons.

1289
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:15,720
Speaker 13: Yeah, it's been neat to see him honored the way

1290
01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:18,440
Speaker 13: he has. And Joe d is a guy that meant

1291
01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:20,360
Speaker 13: a lot to me. He meant a lot to my career.

1292
01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:24,040
Speaker 13: He helped me develop as a young man, He poured

1293
01:07:24,040 --> 01:07:27,040
Speaker 13: into me constantly, a guy that I stayed in close

1294
01:07:27,080 --> 01:07:30,000
Speaker 13: contact with even as my career ended. He would always

1295
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Speaker 13: be calling to check on me and ask for pictures

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01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:36,680
Speaker 13: of the family and shoot me pictures of his kids

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Speaker 13: and grandkids and just a truly special person.

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Speaker 5: And I'm going to miss him greatly.

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Speaker 13: And I owe a lot of the success that I

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Speaker 13: had on the field throughout my career to Joe. He

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Speaker 13: came in my second year in the league under Chan

1302
01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:52,680
Speaker 13: and it really helped develop me as a player. I

1303
01:07:52,840 --> 01:07:56,680
Speaker 13: transitioned back to the center position under his leadership that

1304
01:07:56,800 --> 01:07:59,360
Speaker 13: second season, and I learned a lot from him.

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Speaker 5: And we had a bunch of laughs together.

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01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:05,120
Speaker 13: We we fought at times, so we we laughed together,

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01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:06,000
Speaker 13: we cried together.

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Speaker 5: But one heck of a ball coach.

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Speaker 13: And you know, it's it's always sad that, you know,

1310
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Speaker 13: all this great stuff is said about him.

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Speaker 5: I almost wish he was I know he can hear it.

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Speaker 13: I know he's looking down on us, but I wish, uh,

1313
01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:21,960
Speaker 13: I wish we had honored him like this, uh when

1314
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Speaker 13: he was still here, because he's just a truly special person.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, well, said Eric. Thanks for the time. We

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Speaker 4: will catch up with you in short order.

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Speaker 3: Enjoy uh the week of no football, because the regular

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Speaker 3: season will be honest before we know it.

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Speaker 5: Yep, absolutely, I'm looking forward to it. All right.

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Speaker 3: That's Eric Wood joining US Bill's radio color and analyst

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Speaker 3: on the Bills Radio Network. Also hosted the Centered on

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01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:46,160
Speaker 3: Buffalo podcast. And Yeah, I just wanted to, you know,

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01:08:46,160 --> 01:08:47,559
Speaker 3: I wanted to get his thoughts. Here's a guy who

1324
01:08:47,640 --> 01:08:50,200
Speaker 3: knew the man intimately. Yeah, you know, I had some

1325
01:08:50,280 --> 01:08:52,000
Speaker 3: interactions with him when he was around the building.

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Speaker 4: You know, always had a smile on his face.

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Speaker 2: He was tremendous. Yeah, I'll say this week before we

1328
01:08:58,439 --> 01:09:02,040
Speaker 2: go to break that. A lot of people just you know,

1329
01:09:02,760 --> 01:09:05,000
Speaker 2: take the player coach relationship. They don't really think too

1330
01:09:05,080 --> 01:09:09,280
Speaker 2: much about it. It's it's something that's that's an amazing relationship.

1331
01:09:09,320 --> 01:09:12,080
Speaker 2: I've I had a handful of coach I had dozens

1332
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Speaker 2: of coaches throughout my career from the time I was

1333
01:09:14,439 --> 01:09:16,360
Speaker 2: eleven or twelve years old all the way through till

1334
01:09:16,360 --> 01:09:20,439
Speaker 2: I was thirty five years old, and the relationship those

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01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:25,240
Speaker 2: coaches have with their players is unique, and it's at

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01:09:25,280 --> 01:09:28,240
Speaker 2: times it's life changing. I think Joe dealla Sanders, as

1337
01:09:28,240 --> 01:09:30,640
Speaker 2: you heard from Eric there, had that effect on some

1338
01:09:30,680 --> 01:09:32,680
Speaker 2: of the players. Maybe not every player he coached, but

1339
01:09:32,720 --> 01:09:35,800
Speaker 2: certainly some of them. He was a positive influence on him.

1340
01:09:35,800 --> 01:09:38,760
Speaker 2: I had coaches like that in my career and they

1341
01:09:38,840 --> 01:09:41,559
Speaker 2: were very special. So to see a guy like Joe

1342
01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:45,439
Speaker 2: dea Alisandras Passways coaching at age seventy, I've said a

1343
01:09:45,439 --> 01:09:49,479
Speaker 2: lot coaching is not a profession. It's a lifestyle. It's

1344
01:09:49,479 --> 01:09:52,320
Speaker 2: who these guys are. They're good at it, they take

1345
01:09:52,360 --> 01:09:54,360
Speaker 2: great pride in it, and they make a difference in

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01:09:54,400 --> 01:09:57,759
Speaker 2: a lot of men's lives for the better. So guys

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01:09:57,840 --> 01:10:01,840
Speaker 2: like Joe deserved to be commemorated and remember for the

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01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:04,280
Speaker 2: wonderful things they did for those of us that are

1349
01:10:04,320 --> 01:10:04,800
Speaker 2: still here.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:08,000
Speaker 3: John Harbaugh, the head coach of the Ravens, had some

1352
01:10:08,120 --> 01:10:12,439
Speaker 3: glowing things to say about Joe Dallas Sandras upon the

1353
01:10:12,439 --> 01:10:16,759
Speaker 3: news of his passing, and the Bills put a note

1354
01:10:16,760 --> 01:10:21,000
Speaker 3: out just sending their condolences to the Dallas Sandras family

1355
01:10:21,040 --> 01:10:21,519
Speaker 3: as well.

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Speaker 4: I mean, he coached for a number of teams.

1357
01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:25,479
Speaker 3: Coach for the Chargers, coach for the Ravens, coach for

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01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:29,439
Speaker 3: the Bills, had a long stint coaching in the college

1359
01:10:29,479 --> 01:10:32,000
Speaker 3: ranks as well, so I think he was coaching for

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01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:36,200
Speaker 3: forty five years. So to your point, it truly was

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01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:39,000
Speaker 3: a lifestyle for him. On that note, we're going to

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01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:40,880
Speaker 3: take a break here, but when we come back, we

1363
01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:42,760
Speaker 3: will take more of your phone calls. As we've been

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01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:46,799
Speaker 3: asking you today, who's preseason put them in the best

1365
01:10:46,800 --> 01:10:49,519
Speaker 3: position to earn a roster spot here?

1366
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Speaker 4: With the Bills.

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01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:52,559
Speaker 3: When final roster decisions are made tomorrow, he can give

1368
01:10:52,600 --> 01:10:54,320
Speaker 3: us a call at EIGHTO three to five to fifty

1369
01:10:54,840 --> 01:10:56,840
Speaker 3: or hit us up on the tweet sheet, which we

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Speaker 3: may get to next when we return here on one

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Speaker 3: Bills Live, presented by colle to Health, it's Buffalo Bills Ready,

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Speaker 3: all right back here on one of Bill's Live, Chris Brown,

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01:11:17,400 --> 01:11:21,360
Speaker 3: Steve Tasker with you whose preseason performance put them in

1374
01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:24,120
Speaker 3: the best position to make the roster. Gonna crack open

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Speaker 3: the tweet sheet here, which is brought to you as

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01:11:26,320 --> 01:11:29,519
Speaker 3: always by Corrigan Moving Systems, the official equipment moving company

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Speaker 3: of the Buffalo Bills. And Andrew says, for me, it's

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Speaker 3: Dewan Smoot. He provides depth and trust ability. Is that

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Speaker 3: trust to the position?

1380
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Speaker 2: The greatest ability is trust ability.

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01:11:44,160 --> 01:11:48,120
Speaker 4: I had no idea. I'm not certain that's a word,

1382
01:11:48,160 --> 01:11:51,840
Speaker 4: but I know what you're saying, Andrew. Yeah, I mean

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01:11:51,960 --> 01:11:53,040
Speaker 4: Duan Smoot.

1384
01:11:52,760 --> 01:11:55,400
Speaker 3: Didn't play a whole lot in the preseason other than

1385
01:11:55,439 --> 01:11:56,120
Speaker 3: the first game.

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Speaker 2: I think that says much about what they think about him.

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01:12:00,439 --> 01:12:06,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, valuable edge setter. I think he is an upgrade

1388
01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:09,400
Speaker 3: from some of the edge setters they had last year,

1389
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Speaker 3: like Jack Lawson, for example. I think he's a better

1390
01:12:12,400 --> 01:12:15,840
Speaker 3: player than shaq Uh and I think he gives them

1391
01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:20,200
Speaker 3: better position flex with his ability to kick down inside.

1392
01:12:20,240 --> 01:12:24,679
Speaker 3: I think he has been a sneaky good offseason signing

1393
01:12:24,760 --> 01:12:26,559
Speaker 3: for Brandon Beana's football team.

1394
01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:29,559
Speaker 2: That his ability to play defensive tackle as well as

1395
01:12:29,600 --> 01:12:34,320
Speaker 2: defensive end and play behind Ed Oliver and to Kwan

1396
01:12:34,439 --> 01:12:37,240
Speaker 2: Jones and the like. That's huge for this team because

1397
01:12:37,280 --> 01:12:39,360
Speaker 2: it gives you that guy that he doesn't have to

1398
01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:42,280
Speaker 2: do it any in a game, but if you needed

1399
01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:44,280
Speaker 2: him to, he could do it and finish a game.

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Speaker 2: And I like, somebody got injured and stuff like that.

1401
01:12:46,400 --> 01:12:49,080
Speaker 3: And I like him a lot on first and five right,

1402
01:12:49,160 --> 01:12:52,000
Speaker 3: you know, like he's a room on the edge there.

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01:12:52,760 --> 01:12:54,559
Speaker 4: He's turning everything back inside.

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01:12:54,760 --> 01:12:56,799
Speaker 2: He is. You may be right about this, so Andrew's

1405
01:12:56,880 --> 01:12:58,800
Speaker 2: right on the money, I think with Smoot.

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01:12:59,200 --> 01:13:02,120
Speaker 3: Ryan on tweets, Sheet says, Unfortunately, I don't feel our

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01:13:02,160 --> 01:13:04,439
Speaker 3: preseason taught us anything about a lot of players. I'm

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01:13:04,439 --> 01:13:07,479
Speaker 3: glad we got to see flashes from Grabil Andresen and Hardy,

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01:13:07,520 --> 01:13:09,559
Speaker 3: but that's really all I've gained from it. Some guys

1410
01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:12,000
Speaker 3: played well but didn't do enough to make the roster,

1411
01:13:12,160 --> 01:13:15,000
Speaker 3: like Davidson and Dion Jones. All right, well, let's take

1412
01:13:15,160 --> 01:13:18,360
Speaker 3: the first three guys. Grabel, Andresen and Hardy. I think

1413
01:13:18,400 --> 01:13:21,759
Speaker 3: did all flash in the preseason in a positive way.

1414
01:13:21,960 --> 01:13:25,519
Speaker 3: I would argue that Andresen and Hardy probably did the

1415
01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:28,840
Speaker 3: most to help their cases through the course of the

1416
01:13:28,880 --> 01:13:32,240
Speaker 3: three games. As I said earlier when we had Eric on,

1417
01:13:32,280 --> 01:13:34,400
Speaker 3: I think Hardy might be the most improved player on

1418
01:13:34,439 --> 01:13:37,439
Speaker 3: the entire roster from preseason week one to preseason week

1419
01:13:37,479 --> 01:13:39,000
Speaker 3: three in terms.

1420
01:13:38,840 --> 01:13:39,639
Speaker 4: Of what he did now.

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01:13:39,640 --> 01:13:41,960
Speaker 3: He was also around the ball a lot, so he's

1422
01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:45,720
Speaker 3: easy to notice. You know, Tyland Grabil's toiling out there

1423
01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:50,040
Speaker 3: at tackle and nobody's paying attention to him. But I

1424
01:13:50,120 --> 01:13:52,639
Speaker 3: did see some things from Tyland Grabil that was encouraging

1425
01:13:52,680 --> 01:13:55,200
Speaker 3: as well. I think he's the fourth tackle on this team.

1426
01:13:55,240 --> 01:13:58,719
Speaker 3: I think Vandermark is your swing tackle. I think Tyland Grabel,

1427
01:13:58,800 --> 01:14:00,719
Speaker 3: the draft pick is is your fourth tackle.

1428
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Speaker 5: Yeah.

1429
01:14:01,680 --> 01:14:06,040
Speaker 2: He's big, six ' five, athletics three oh eight or

1430
01:14:06,040 --> 01:14:08,519
Speaker 2: three ten, and he moves extremely well. I think that's

1431
01:14:08,520 --> 01:14:10,519
Speaker 2: the one thing I saw from him right from the

1432
01:14:10,520 --> 01:14:16,439
Speaker 2: get from OTA's Mini Mini camp training camp. He's a

1433
01:14:16,560 --> 01:14:19,559
Speaker 2: really good athlete and that's what sets you apart out there.

1434
01:14:19,560 --> 01:14:21,280
Speaker 2: You've got to be able to go side to side

1435
01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:23,559
Speaker 2: as well as anchor against a big dude who's bull

1436
01:14:23,640 --> 01:14:29,240
Speaker 2: rushing you. So six five three thirteen officially Grabel is yeah,

1437
01:14:29,280 --> 01:14:31,320
Speaker 2: he's got a chance to be there, and that's that

1438
01:14:31,439 --> 01:14:33,760
Speaker 2: says something about a young guy drafted where he was.

1439
01:14:33,840 --> 01:14:36,400
Speaker 3: I think we've already covered Andreson and all that he's

1440
01:14:36,439 --> 01:14:38,320
Speaker 3: done to try to help his case. But now on

1441
01:14:38,360 --> 01:14:41,400
Speaker 3: the flip side of that, Ryan doesn't think Davids enter

1442
01:14:41,439 --> 01:14:43,679
Speaker 3: Don Jones did enough to make the roster. Obviously, Jones

1443
01:14:43,680 --> 01:14:47,000
Speaker 3: has already been released. That happened on Sunday, as he

1444
01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:49,519
Speaker 3: was part of those first cuts that were made as

1445
01:14:49,560 --> 01:14:51,920
Speaker 3: the Bills try to get ahead of it. Davidson is

1446
01:14:51,960 --> 01:14:54,599
Speaker 3: an interesting case. You wonder if the injury to Quinton

1447
01:14:54,680 --> 01:15:00,479
Speaker 3: Morris alters his candidacy for the active roster. We don't

1448
01:15:00,479 --> 01:15:04,240
Speaker 3: know the prognosis on Quentin Morris. Coach McDermott said last

1449
01:15:04,240 --> 01:15:06,720
Speaker 3: week he's not ruling anyone out yet for Week one,

1450
01:15:06,840 --> 01:15:08,960
Speaker 3: including the guys that were deemed to be out for

1451
01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:14,200
Speaker 3: multiple weeks, which was Morris, Valdez Scantling and Mitchell Trubisky.

1452
01:15:14,800 --> 01:15:17,920
Speaker 3: We'll see if their prognoses are any better this week

1453
01:15:18,240 --> 01:15:22,360
Speaker 3: the next time coach McDermot addresses the media. But if

1454
01:15:22,400 --> 01:15:24,840
Speaker 3: Morris is on the shelf for any appreciable time, you

1455
01:15:24,880 --> 01:15:29,920
Speaker 3: wonder if that changes Davidson's candidacy. Trey McKitty, to Eric

1456
01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:31,880
Speaker 3: Woods point when we had him on, is more of

1457
01:15:31,920 --> 01:15:34,200
Speaker 3: a do everything tight end, and he flashed in the

1458
01:15:34,240 --> 01:15:37,000
Speaker 3: game the other day, made a couple of catches, caught

1459
01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:39,840
Speaker 3: the two point conversion between his knees and then secured the.

1460
01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:45,160
Speaker 2: Book after being tipped. Yeah, yeah, yeah, caught the deflection. Yeah.

1461
01:15:45,280 --> 01:15:47,360
Speaker 2: They've got some guys to choose from. No question, it's

1462
01:15:47,400 --> 01:15:53,439
Speaker 2: a question whether they see Zach Davidson's abilities for what

1463
01:15:53,520 --> 01:15:55,800
Speaker 2: he does well. He's very good, but he doesn't do

1464
01:15:55,880 --> 01:16:00,800
Speaker 2: everything well enough. A guy like McKitty may do everything

1465
01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:06,599
Speaker 2: well enough, although there's some things that Davidson does much better.

1466
01:16:07,479 --> 01:16:08,120
Speaker 2: But there you have it.

1467
01:16:08,160 --> 01:16:13,000
Speaker 3: There's your dilemma, and that'll be debated, and it may

1468
01:16:13,040 --> 01:16:15,839
Speaker 3: come down to who is the better guy on special

1469
01:16:15,880 --> 01:16:17,599
Speaker 3: teams and those two times, and.

1470
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Speaker 2: It may have if depending on which one makes the club,

1471
01:16:20,840 --> 01:16:23,240
Speaker 2: what they're going to ask him to do may have

1472
01:16:23,479 --> 01:16:26,200
Speaker 2: way in those scales because they only want to there

1473
01:16:26,280 --> 01:16:28,519
Speaker 2: until Morrise comes back anyway, right, I mean, then Morse

1474
01:16:28,560 --> 01:16:31,120
Speaker 2: will come will come back and do what he's done.

1475
01:16:31,240 --> 01:16:33,519
Speaker 2: But in the meantime, what are you going to ask

1476
01:16:33,600 --> 01:16:35,800
Speaker 2: that guy to do? And if you want a guy

1477
01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:39,040
Speaker 2: who does something really well that dak Zach Davidson does

1478
01:16:39,080 --> 01:16:41,519
Speaker 2: really well, maybe he's the guy. But if you don't

1479
01:16:41,560 --> 01:16:44,160
Speaker 2: really know exactly what you're gonna ask the guy to do, and.

1480
01:16:44,120 --> 01:16:46,400
Speaker 4: There might be multiple different things.

1481
01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:48,400
Speaker 2: Right he needs to, then McKitty may be the guy

1482
01:16:48,400 --> 01:16:49,799
Speaker 2: that you keep.

1483
01:16:50,479 --> 01:16:54,559
Speaker 3: Connor on the tweets sheet, says Andrewsen, Shavers, Hardy, and Ingram.

1484
01:16:54,840 --> 01:16:57,320
Speaker 3: All four showed they have what it takes to earn

1485
01:16:57,360 --> 01:17:00,600
Speaker 3: a roster spot. I think all four are locks for

1486
01:17:00,640 --> 01:17:03,559
Speaker 3: the roster. However, with injuries to the linebacker and wide

1487
01:17:03,640 --> 01:17:07,800
Speaker 3: receiver units, I think Shavers and Andreasen become must have

1488
01:17:08,760 --> 01:17:13,200
Speaker 3: on the roster. So He's got Shavers and Andreasen on.

1489
01:17:13,640 --> 01:17:20,479
Speaker 3: He also likes what Hardy and Ingram did. Yeah, I

1490
01:17:20,520 --> 01:17:26,480
Speaker 3: mean I liked what Hardy did. I talked about him.

1491
01:17:26,600 --> 01:17:30,000
Speaker 3: I don't know what do you well.

1492
01:17:30,120 --> 01:17:34,519
Speaker 2: Ingram's been around, He's got he has been around the

1493
01:17:34,600 --> 01:17:36,960
Speaker 2: system for a while, and I think the coaches might

1494
01:17:36,960 --> 01:17:38,479
Speaker 2: he might be one of those guys say, you know,

1495
01:17:38,520 --> 01:17:42,120
Speaker 2: whether he's been better or not, the guy knows what

1496
01:17:42,160 --> 01:17:43,599
Speaker 2: we know what we can get from that. I mean,

1497
01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:45,920
Speaker 2: he's on the roster, and I think he's going to

1498
01:17:45,960 --> 01:17:46,320
Speaker 2: be on the right.

1499
01:17:46,360 --> 01:17:50,760
Speaker 3: He's been running second team corner pretty much wire to

1500
01:17:50,840 --> 01:17:53,559
Speaker 3: wire here in training camp, and he's been opposite Kyrie

1501
01:17:53,640 --> 01:17:56,280
Speaker 3: Elin with the second team pretty much from day one

1502
01:17:56,280 --> 01:17:59,439
Speaker 3: of camp, and quite frankly, I think his play has

1503
01:17:59,439 --> 01:18:01,639
Speaker 3: been pretty darn consistent down the stretch here. He's probably

1504
01:18:01,680 --> 01:18:03,759
Speaker 3: nipping at Elam's heels for the third corner spot.

1505
01:18:03,880 --> 01:18:10,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's yeah, Yeah, you're not getting rid

1506
01:18:10,080 --> 01:18:11,240
Speaker 2: of him. No, there's just no way.

1507
01:18:11,920 --> 01:18:14,920
Speaker 3: I think in an ideal world, he is the new

1508
01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:18,720
Speaker 3: Dane Jackson on this roster. You know, a guy that

1509
01:18:18,800 --> 01:18:22,320
Speaker 3: can come in and play and there's not a tremendous

1510
01:18:22,360 --> 01:18:25,200
Speaker 3: drop off. Plays tough, makes some plays for you. I

1511
01:18:25,200 --> 01:18:27,040
Speaker 3: mean that's what Dan Jackson was here as a seventh

1512
01:18:27,120 --> 01:18:27,960
Speaker 3: round draft choice.

1513
01:18:27,960 --> 01:18:30,080
Speaker 2: So yeah, JaMarcus Ingram's going to be on the team.

1514
01:18:30,160 --> 01:18:35,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, yeah, Anthony says Buffalo Joe and Frank

1515
01:18:35,240 --> 01:18:38,799
Speaker 3: Gore Junior. As far as guys, he felt put themselves

1516
01:18:38,840 --> 01:18:39,720
Speaker 3: in best position to.

1517
01:18:39,680 --> 01:18:40,280
Speaker 4: Make the roster.

1518
01:18:40,960 --> 01:18:43,840
Speaker 3: I really think Andresen is going to be a tough

1519
01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:48,920
Speaker 3: call here because of the injuries at the position. I mean,

1520
01:18:49,040 --> 01:18:51,479
Speaker 3: Nicholas Moro, I don't think he took a snap in

1521
01:18:51,520 --> 01:18:54,679
Speaker 3: the preseason. He was just starting to come back into

1522
01:18:54,680 --> 01:18:57,559
Speaker 3: the practice setting this past week, but certainly not in

1523
01:18:57,600 --> 01:19:01,360
Speaker 3: position to risk reinjury and play in a game. So

1524
01:19:01,760 --> 01:19:05,560
Speaker 3: Buffalo had four linebackers dressed well, they had four linebackers

1525
01:19:05,600 --> 01:19:07,520
Speaker 3: that they were interested in playing.

1526
01:19:07,920 --> 01:19:10,160
Speaker 2: Yeah on the Saturday, Yeah, that they were actually gonna let.

1527
01:19:10,080 --> 01:19:15,760
Speaker 3: Place Ulifotio, Andreasen, Shane Simon, and Dion Jones. And two

1528
01:19:15,800 --> 01:19:17,479
Speaker 3: of those guys are no longer on the roster. The

1529
01:19:17,520 --> 01:19:21,720
Speaker 3: linebacker position has gone from nine to seven, and at

1530
01:19:21,920 --> 01:19:25,759
Speaker 3: most you're cutting two more guys at the linebacker position

1531
01:19:25,880 --> 01:19:33,800
Speaker 3: at the most, right, so you're probably coming down to Ulefotio,

1532
01:19:34,200 --> 01:19:38,639
Speaker 3: Morrow and Andresen, and then maybe Specter's in there because

1533
01:19:38,680 --> 01:19:41,120
Speaker 3: of the injury, and are you going to give him

1534
01:19:41,120 --> 01:19:44,719
Speaker 3: a different kind of designation which could alter the numbers

1535
01:19:44,720 --> 01:19:47,639
Speaker 3: as well. I think those are the decisions you're making

1536
01:19:47,640 --> 01:19:49,960
Speaker 3: at the linebacker position here in the next twenty four hours.

1537
01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:53,920
Speaker 2: Let's right, we'll have to see how it falls. But

1538
01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:57,360
Speaker 2: once again, get the linebacker spot. We don't know what

1539
01:19:57,400 --> 01:19:58,960
Speaker 2: they think about the guys that are hurt.

1540
01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:03,160
Speaker 4: Out and there are different decisions to be made.

1541
01:20:03,640 --> 01:20:06,400
Speaker 3: Like I think they said out at least a week

1542
01:20:06,479 --> 01:20:11,360
Speaker 3: when Spector first injured his calf, and I mean we're

1543
01:20:11,400 --> 01:20:15,240
Speaker 3: past a week now. Obviously he wasn't going to play

1544
01:20:15,240 --> 01:20:18,680
Speaker 3: in Saturday's preseason game last weekend. But where is he

1545
01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:20,439
Speaker 3: coming into this week? I mean, is he going to

1546
01:20:20,520 --> 01:20:22,920
Speaker 3: be Would he be a candidate to be ready for

1547
01:20:22,960 --> 01:20:26,560
Speaker 3: Week one? If not, you may designate him in a

1548
01:20:26,600 --> 01:20:31,000
Speaker 3: different way than being on an active roster, So that

1549
01:20:31,040 --> 01:20:33,240
Speaker 3: can factor in because if you can take care of

1550
01:20:33,760 --> 01:20:36,519
Speaker 3: one of the subtractions from the linebacker position that way

1551
01:20:36,600 --> 01:20:40,280
Speaker 3: with him with an injury designation, well now you only

1552
01:20:40,280 --> 01:20:42,240
Speaker 3: got to remove one guy from your roster at the

1553
01:20:42,240 --> 01:20:45,479
Speaker 3: linebacker position, and it changes what your decision making could

1554
01:20:45,479 --> 01:20:47,400
Speaker 3: potentially be. And that's not the only position where that

1555
01:20:47,439 --> 01:20:47,960
Speaker 3: could happen.

1556
01:20:48,520 --> 01:20:50,560
Speaker 4: There are others. We talked about the quarterback thing. What

1557
01:20:51,000 --> 01:20:52,800
Speaker 4: is Trubisky's status.

1558
01:20:52,720 --> 01:20:55,960
Speaker 3: That is a big decision here, like is he going

1559
01:20:56,040 --> 01:20:59,040
Speaker 3: to be able to take a snap, take a drop back?

1560
01:20:59,400 --> 01:21:01,960
Speaker 3: Escape the and run around if he's under pressure or

1561
01:21:02,000 --> 01:21:03,960
Speaker 3: is he gonna put himself at more risk because he

1562
01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:06,000
Speaker 3: doesn't have the mobility yet back in his knee.

1563
01:21:06,080 --> 01:21:09,840
Speaker 2: And how big a commitment are they willing to make

1564
01:21:10,160 --> 01:21:13,120
Speaker 2: to Trubisky? They went out and brought him back after

1565
01:21:13,160 --> 01:21:16,479
Speaker 2: he was here two years ago. Two year contract too, Yeah,

1566
01:21:16,479 --> 01:21:18,560
Speaker 2: two year contract. I don't know how much of it's guaranteed.

1567
01:21:19,160 --> 01:21:21,240
Speaker 2: I can find that for the simple fact matter is

1568
01:21:21,520 --> 01:21:26,160
Speaker 2: how you know, how solidified do they think Mitch Trubisky is.

1569
01:21:28,880 --> 01:21:31,840
Speaker 4: That's right because he didn't like the world on fire?

1570
01:21:32,240 --> 01:21:36,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, Ben Denucci and for that case, and Anthony Brown

1571
01:21:36,080 --> 01:21:38,120
Speaker 2: played better. Anthony Brown was like eleven of twelve in

1572
01:21:38,160 --> 01:21:41,880
Speaker 2: the game. Yep, I mean so Danucci.

1573
01:21:41,439 --> 01:21:43,639
Speaker 4: Was a line of scrimmage throws.

1574
01:21:43,680 --> 01:21:45,840
Speaker 3: They were trying to get the receivers involved so they

1575
01:21:45,880 --> 01:21:48,559
Speaker 3: could put some good tape out there, which I thought

1576
01:21:48,600 --> 01:21:50,360
Speaker 3: was a nice job by Joe Brady.

1577
01:21:50,479 --> 01:21:52,760
Speaker 2: But that, let's face it, in that Carolina game with

1578
01:21:53,680 --> 01:21:56,800
Speaker 2: Ben Denucci and Anthony Brown, the Bill's offense looked better,

1579
01:21:56,800 --> 01:22:01,000
Speaker 2: and it's looked all summer, at least in the games. Yeah,

1580
01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:02,920
Speaker 2: I would not in practice. It's look good, but.

1581
01:22:02,920 --> 01:22:04,120
Speaker 4: I would not disagree with that.

1582
01:22:04,200 --> 01:22:08,920
Speaker 2: So that gives you a little bit of, you know,

1583
01:22:09,000 --> 01:22:11,320
Speaker 2: at least a little bit of relief. Maybe you think, Okay,

1584
01:22:11,320 --> 01:22:14,960
Speaker 2: we're not completely dead in the water if Trubisky can't

1585
01:22:15,000 --> 01:22:18,120
Speaker 2: go or if he's not the backup, because all this

1586
01:22:18,200 --> 01:22:20,559
Speaker 2: becomes a moot point. When Josh takes every snap on.

1587
01:22:21,240 --> 01:22:26,080
Speaker 3: Total guaranteed money is one point two million, his cap

1588
01:22:26,160 --> 01:22:31,839
Speaker 3: hit dead money would be two point seven.

1589
01:22:33,320 --> 01:22:35,920
Speaker 2: So it's not nothing.

1590
01:22:36,680 --> 01:22:37,559
Speaker 5: But I don't know.

1591
01:22:38,200 --> 01:22:42,040
Speaker 4: Well, hold on, I'm looking post June first here, one

1592
01:22:42,120 --> 01:22:43,360
Speaker 4: point nine to six.

1593
01:22:43,520 --> 01:22:45,680
Speaker 2: It would be yeah, that's negligible.

1594
01:22:46,479 --> 01:22:54,840
Speaker 3: So yeah, it's uh, it's not nothing. Well, I think

1595
01:22:55,080 --> 01:22:59,680
Speaker 3: I think of a viable replacement option would have to

1596
01:22:59,720 --> 01:23:03,320
Speaker 3: surf is somewhere from around the league, because I mean,

1597
01:23:03,320 --> 01:23:06,240
Speaker 3: we even asked Eric would that, like, did Ben Denucci

1598
01:23:06,320 --> 01:23:08,840
Speaker 3: do enough to be the backup, even if just for

1599
01:23:08,920 --> 01:23:11,360
Speaker 3: a week while Trubisky gets healthy?

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01:23:11,360 --> 01:23:14,720
Speaker 4: In his opinion, he didn't think so. I thought he

1601
01:23:14,760 --> 01:23:17,160
Speaker 4: made progress from last week's game very much.

1602
01:23:17,200 --> 01:23:23,360
Speaker 2: So yeah, they didn't ask Denucci to do anything except

1603
01:23:23,400 --> 01:23:25,519
Speaker 2: throw the ball wide and quick and get rid of it,

1604
01:23:25,600 --> 01:23:28,679
Speaker 2: and he did. He made it play with his legs

1605
01:23:28,680 --> 01:23:31,200
Speaker 2: early in the game, kept the touchdown pass, had a

1606
01:23:31,240 --> 01:23:34,320
Speaker 2: touchdown pass, just missed on another open touchdown pass that

1607
01:23:34,360 --> 01:23:35,280
Speaker 2: he probably should.

1608
01:23:35,000 --> 01:23:37,880
Speaker 4: Have hit ye out of Shavers in the first half.

1609
01:23:38,000 --> 01:23:41,920
Speaker 2: That's something that's a bummer that for him. But nevertheless, man,

1610
01:23:42,000 --> 01:23:46,280
Speaker 2: it's it's what you think and what the club thinks

1611
01:23:47,360 --> 01:23:51,720
Speaker 2: if you have to play the guy who gives you

1612
01:23:51,760 --> 01:23:54,280
Speaker 2: the chance, and what do they think about the way

1613
01:23:54,360 --> 01:23:56,400
Speaker 2: Trubisky has practiced and for what they knew about him

1614
01:23:56,400 --> 01:23:59,000
Speaker 2: from two years ago, you know what they know about

1615
01:23:59,040 --> 01:24:01,240
Speaker 2: him and what they know about Nucci over only just

1616
01:24:01,360 --> 01:24:04,480
Speaker 2: what less than two weeks. What they think about Denucci

1617
01:24:04,560 --> 01:24:07,920
Speaker 2: is comparison to that. And I think the fact that

1618
01:24:07,920 --> 01:24:12,000
Speaker 2: they brought Mitch Trubisky back after being gone for a

1619
01:24:12,080 --> 01:24:14,760
Speaker 2: year to Pittsburgh says a lot about how they feel

1620
01:24:14,760 --> 01:24:17,240
Speaker 2: about him. I think they like him probably a lot better.

1621
01:24:17,720 --> 01:24:18,919
Speaker 4: M Interesting.

1622
01:24:20,320 --> 01:24:22,600
Speaker 3: Let's take a look at some of the other contributions

1623
01:24:22,600 --> 01:24:25,760
Speaker 3: on the tweet. Geek Jack says, I think Buffalo Joe

1624
01:24:25,800 --> 01:24:27,960
Speaker 3: really shine and looks to have made himself a valuable

1625
01:24:28,000 --> 01:24:30,599
Speaker 3: depth piece at wide receiver. I was impressed with Dion

1626
01:24:30,800 --> 01:24:33,719
Speaker 3: Kan He looked really good on those screens, nice speed

1627
01:24:33,760 --> 01:24:36,280
Speaker 3: and moves. Not sure he makes the fifty three over Shavers,

1628
01:24:36,600 --> 01:24:38,960
Speaker 3: but looks like a good practice squad candidate.

1629
01:24:39,200 --> 01:24:40,880
Speaker 4: I tend to agree with that. I liked what we

1630
01:24:40,920 --> 01:24:42,120
Speaker 4: saw from Dion Kane.

1631
01:24:42,520 --> 01:24:45,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, in the first For me, that was the first

1632
01:24:45,120 --> 01:24:47,360
Speaker 2: chance I had seen him actually catch a pass in

1633
01:24:47,400 --> 01:24:50,080
Speaker 2: practice or anything else. I mean, he was just kind

1634
01:24:50,080 --> 01:24:53,400
Speaker 2: of had a nondescript training camp. And maybe that's one

1635
01:24:53,880 --> 01:24:57,720
Speaker 2: of those guys that you know is best in the

1636
01:24:57,720 --> 01:25:01,000
Speaker 2: big moments, like in games in the preseason. His gamer

1637
01:25:01,280 --> 01:25:03,240
Speaker 2: doesn't show up in practice, but you turn the lights

1638
01:25:03,280 --> 01:25:04,600
Speaker 2: on and all of a sudden, the guy's, you know,

1639
01:25:04,680 --> 01:25:07,439
Speaker 2: world beater. Maybe that's not a great way to make

1640
01:25:07,479 --> 01:25:13,720
Speaker 2: a fifty three roster though. You practice too much not

1641
01:25:13,840 --> 01:25:15,960
Speaker 2: to look good when you practice and only look good

1642
01:25:15,960 --> 01:25:19,920
Speaker 2: when you play. It's it's just there's too much riding

1643
01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:23,520
Speaker 2: on opinions in the coaching staff in the coaching room

1644
01:25:24,160 --> 01:25:26,599
Speaker 2: to just say, now, now, he'll play good on Sunday.

1645
01:25:26,880 --> 01:25:29,040
Speaker 2: You know, they don't like to do that.

1646
01:25:29,439 --> 01:25:32,000
Speaker 3: Right, And if he's on the practice squad, he's gonna

1647
01:25:32,040 --> 01:25:33,760
Speaker 3: have to look good in practice through the week to

1648
01:25:33,800 --> 01:25:36,320
Speaker 3: give the opposing you know, to give the bill number

1649
01:25:36,320 --> 01:25:36,920
Speaker 3: one defense a.

1650
01:25:36,920 --> 01:25:39,639
Speaker 4: Good look to get ready for the game, right, that's right.

1651
01:25:40,160 --> 01:25:42,160
Speaker 2: Plus, if you do want to elevate and get off

1652
01:25:42,160 --> 01:25:43,960
Speaker 2: the practice squad, as we've seen other guys. Do you

1653
01:25:43,960 --> 01:25:47,040
Speaker 2: remember Duke Johnson back in the day, come he practice squad,

1654
01:25:47,040 --> 01:25:50,040
Speaker 2: practice squad. Then he gets elevated. William Duke Williams. He

1655
01:25:50,080 --> 01:25:52,519
Speaker 2: gets elevated and plays well when he gets elevated. So

1656
01:25:54,360 --> 01:25:56,479
Speaker 2: all of that goes into it. And that's how you,

1657
01:25:56,760 --> 01:25:58,839
Speaker 2: that's how you. You know, you make a career for yourself.

1658
01:25:58,880 --> 01:26:03,240
Speaker 2: And if you don't practice well, you really have a

1659
01:26:03,280 --> 01:26:06,440
Speaker 2: hard time convincing the coaches to give you a bigger opportunity.

1660
01:26:06,960 --> 01:26:12,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, Jamie on the tweets sheets says, the youth on

1661
01:26:12,200 --> 01:26:15,400
Speaker 3: the offensive line give Cromer his flowers for training up

1662
01:26:15,439 --> 01:26:18,720
Speaker 3: the late round picks and undrafted rookies well beyond their

1663
01:26:18,800 --> 01:26:22,880
Speaker 3: draft status. Is this gives being options in season in

1664
01:26:22,960 --> 01:26:26,880
Speaker 3: case of injuries and especially next offseason. You know we've

1665
01:26:26,880 --> 01:26:29,559
Speaker 3: talked about how defensive end is a fat position that

1666
01:26:29,600 --> 01:26:32,760
Speaker 3: could lead to a trade possibility. You know, you have

1667
01:26:32,800 --> 01:26:35,040
Speaker 3: a guy that you think belongs on a fifty three

1668
01:26:35,080 --> 01:26:36,920
Speaker 3: man roster, but he's not going to make yours and

1669
01:26:36,960 --> 01:26:38,519
Speaker 3: you want to try to trade him for some kind

1670
01:26:38,520 --> 01:26:39,519
Speaker 3: of draft capital.

1671
01:26:40,400 --> 01:26:41,600
Speaker 4: You can make an argument.

1672
01:26:41,320 --> 01:26:43,240
Speaker 3: That they might have an option to do that with

1673
01:26:43,520 --> 01:26:46,000
Speaker 3: some offensive linemen on the back of the roster.

1674
01:26:45,840 --> 01:26:48,280
Speaker 2: Right, oh yeah, And they're deep at that spot. And

1675
01:26:48,320 --> 01:26:51,040
Speaker 2: we've you and I've been having conversations about the offensive

1676
01:26:51,040 --> 01:26:53,559
Speaker 2: line for weeks now, thinking like maybe they can lean

1677
01:26:53,600 --> 01:26:58,040
Speaker 2: on it quite a bit. How they do that is

1678
01:26:58,080 --> 01:27:00,920
Speaker 2: really always interesting. We'll see if if if they do

1679
01:27:01,000 --> 01:27:04,680
Speaker 2: indeed use the offensive line as a crutch or a

1680
01:27:05,640 --> 01:27:09,719
Speaker 2: try and sneak guys over or whatever they do. There's

1681
01:27:09,800 --> 01:27:12,120
Speaker 2: just a lot of guys I think they can play right.

1682
01:27:12,240 --> 01:27:14,439
Speaker 3: And I think they if the Bills think for a

1683
01:27:14,560 --> 01:27:18,200
Speaker 3: second they don't have enough spots on their active roster

1684
01:27:18,800 --> 01:27:21,360
Speaker 3: and a guy that they like is not clearing through

1685
01:27:21,360 --> 01:27:25,840
Speaker 3: waivers to put on the practice squad, sometimes trade is

1686
01:27:25,880 --> 01:27:29,479
Speaker 3: the best way to maintain your roster with draft capital

1687
01:27:29,479 --> 01:27:31,439
Speaker 3: in the future, to refortify it the next.

1688
01:27:31,360 --> 01:27:32,879
Speaker 2: Year, or at least maintain the asset.

1689
01:27:33,520 --> 01:27:37,120
Speaker 3: Right break time for us here one final segment when

1690
01:27:37,120 --> 01:27:38,960
Speaker 3: we come back here on One Bills Live presented by

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01:27:38,960 --> 01:27:39,360
Speaker 3: co Lot of Health.

1692
01:27:39,400 --> 01:27:52,679
Speaker 14: It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

1693
01:27:54,479 --> 01:27:56,599
Speaker 3: All right, So, as we told you earlier in the show,

1694
01:27:57,360 --> 01:28:00,479
Speaker 3: Ceedee Lamb New deal four years, one one hundred and

1695
01:28:00,520 --> 01:28:03,120
Speaker 3: thirty six million dollar extension.

1696
01:28:04,000 --> 01:28:05,679
Speaker 4: You know who's not happy right now?

1697
01:28:06,680 --> 01:28:10,639
Speaker 3: John Lynch, GM of the Niners, who's been working all

1698
01:28:10,760 --> 01:28:13,679
Speaker 3: summer trying to figure out how to get Brandon Ayuk

1699
01:28:13,800 --> 01:28:17,040
Speaker 3: back under contract. Can you imagine what he thought when

1700
01:28:17,040 --> 01:28:17,559
Speaker 3: he saw this?

1701
01:28:19,080 --> 01:28:22,320
Speaker 2: Wow, what are you doing over there?

1702
01:28:22,800 --> 01:28:29,120
Speaker 3: Jimmy, I'm doing There were reports that they were willing

1703
01:28:29,200 --> 01:28:33,880
Speaker 3: to put together some numbers for Ayuk similar to the

1704
01:28:33,880 --> 01:28:37,960
Speaker 3: Amanra Saint Brown deal, which was like four years, one

1705
01:28:38,040 --> 01:28:43,280
Speaker 3: hundred and twenty million and eighty guaranteed, and there's a

1706
01:28:43,320 --> 01:28:47,040
Speaker 3: balloon payment in the last year of a Monro's deal

1707
01:28:47,200 --> 01:28:51,080
Speaker 3: to make it thirty million average annual value. Like I

1708
01:28:51,080 --> 01:28:52,600
Speaker 3: can't even remember what the number was, it was like

1709
01:28:52,680 --> 01:28:54,320
Speaker 3: thirty six million in the last year.

1710
01:28:56,080 --> 01:28:57,559
Speaker 2: I don't think Ayuk wants that.

1711
01:28:57,680 --> 01:28:59,120
Speaker 4: I don't even think that's good enough.

1712
01:28:59,160 --> 01:29:06,800
Speaker 2: Now No, I mean no, right, Like, no, it's too late,

1713
01:29:07,360 --> 01:29:10,040
Speaker 2: it's too late. Yeah, I mean yeah, now you're done.

1714
01:29:10,520 --> 01:29:13,800
Speaker 2: Here's the thing. You can you always say, how good

1715
01:29:13,840 --> 01:29:16,000
Speaker 2: does Detroit feel about I'm on Rossaint Brown's deal?

1716
01:29:16,040 --> 01:29:16,200
Speaker 10: Now?

1717
01:29:16,240 --> 01:29:19,559
Speaker 4: Oh they're they're like wow, Yeah, they're doing cartwheels in Detroit.

1718
01:29:19,600 --> 01:29:21,800
Speaker 2: How about just like the Bills and Josh Allen contract.

1719
01:29:21,560 --> 01:29:23,519
Speaker 3: Let's think about this from the other side. What if

1720
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Speaker 3: you're a team like Pittsburgh that the price to get

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01:29:27,640 --> 01:29:30,040
Speaker 3: him to sign a new deal after trading assets for

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01:29:30,120 --> 01:29:32,280
Speaker 3: him has gone up as well. Does that change your

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01:29:32,360 --> 01:29:37,960
Speaker 3: opinion of Like is Omar Khan on the phone going, yeah, yeah,

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01:29:38,000 --> 01:29:39,640
Speaker 3: you know that deal in principle we got We're good.

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Speaker 2: We're out.

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01:29:39,920 --> 01:29:41,599
Speaker 4: We're out. We're out, we're out. We can't play thirty

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01:29:41,640 --> 01:29:42,080
Speaker 4: six a year.

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01:29:42,160 --> 01:29:45,200
Speaker 2: That thanks you, We are rescinding the offer. Thanks for

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01:29:45,200 --> 01:29:48,360
Speaker 2: stopping by. That might happen. Yeah, you're not giving up

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01:29:48,400 --> 01:29:50,880
Speaker 2: draft picks and thirty four million dollars a year.

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Speaker 4: I mean that's just for the guy. A lot of

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01:29:52,920 --> 01:29:54,439
Speaker 4: money for receivers these days.

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01:29:54,479 --> 01:29:55,400
Speaker 2: We're done for today.

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01:29:55,479 --> 01:29:58,240
Speaker 3: We'll see you tomorrow at one cutdown day at four

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Speaker 3: pm deadline.

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Speaker 4: A lot to talk about.