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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.

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Speaker 2: Cows blowing out of the backfield, flowing down the sideline.

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Speaker 3: He is hanging with the voice Now your hosts.

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Speaker 4: Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon Gross.

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Speaker 5: Monday or look Alive had a very festive TOASTEDOS Championship

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Speaker 5: plaza outside Ford Center at the Star in Frisco, where

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Speaker 5: just to the right of that view there is a large,

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Speaker 5: enormous Christmas tree on the plaza. It is chilly forty

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Speaker 5: eight degrees. The high is fifty, the low tonight is

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Speaker 5: thirty one.

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Speaker 6: He's Shannon, is Nate. We got Chris in the background.

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Speaker 6: Salt and Pepper. Poppy is out today. I am back,

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Speaker 6: I am Kurt.

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Speaker 3: Do we get you a flag?

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Speaker 6: They say, ah, together we other sports talking crip Braille people.

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Speaker 5: Yes, sir, we speak wing Stop is here and I

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Speaker 5: want to thank you personally, Kurt Man.

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Speaker 3: Let me shake your hand for real.

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Speaker 2: You got a lot of problems, Yes, sir, bro your

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Speaker 2: wings was some of the best I've had from Stop.

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Speaker 3: I'm not joking. What what What's to.

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Speaker 5: Dame Louise in a rub rub him down, turned him on,

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Speaker 5: You got him down, you got.

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Speaker 6: Him off them.

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Speaker 2: I took it home right because my wife, you don't

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Speaker 2: like to playing Wings either.

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Speaker 3: I'm on the guy that I play. That's like, uh,

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Speaker 3: what are these? I say? Don't touch him? That's what

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Speaker 3: those are, Curt Weeks.

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Speaker 6: I'm glad I could help out in my absence.

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Speaker 5: You hurt that Louisiana. Yes, sir, will turn you on, Yes, sir,

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Speaker 5: everybody on.

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Speaker 3: Don't forget it. Yeah, man, make sure you get his

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Speaker 3: thoughts on the game. Yeah, what were your thoughts on

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Speaker 3: the game? We don't want to go, don't we want

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Speaker 3: to hear your thoughts. Brother, for real.

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Speaker 6: I was disappointing, you know. I don't know if they

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Speaker 6: were fatigued or whatever. They just weren't up for the fight,

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Speaker 6: the same as Detroit, which is unfortunate. So I had

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Speaker 6: no answer for Gibbs, which we thought would be a problem.

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Speaker 3: I do something else.

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Speaker 6: Overall, It's just, uh.

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Speaker 3: Just was he that good in college? Nate? Yes? See

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Speaker 3: what I wanted him?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that I stood up on the table for him,

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Speaker 2: which you know in here, I probably that's pro got

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Speaker 2: these little dens got probably broken every time I stood up.

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Speaker 3: It's certain kids. Y'all know me. Man, I'm keep out

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Speaker 3: my kids. Uh.

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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers in his day, I would never turn against him. Now, Aaron,

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Speaker 2: come on, man, Uh gives U the kid at Philadelphia,

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Speaker 2: the defensive tackle. He's just certain players that I love, man,

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Speaker 2: Bucky Irv Oh yes, oh come on now, but we

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Speaker 2: don't have them and we can't get them, and we're

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Speaker 2: gonna go with what we got.

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Speaker 3: But I'm telling that guy there, I knew you watch

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Speaker 3: him a lot of Texas. Yes, yeah, uh you know

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Speaker 3: who am I thinking? Was the cat in Atlanta? You're

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Speaker 3: talking about the guy in Atlanta? Oh be young? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that dude, now that's who I shot. See.

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Speaker 2: I am man enough to tell you people when I

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Speaker 2: am dead wrong. I was dead wrong with that kid.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, this kid ain't all of that they give him.

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Speaker 2: They feed him the ball. He oh, bro, I shot

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Speaker 2: holes in this kid. But I will apologize you whatever.

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Speaker 2: How you pronounce your name, sir, mister Robinson, I can't

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Speaker 2: pronouncecause you done change it. But I finally got used

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Speaker 2: to one way he changed it to another. So, mister Robinson,

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Speaker 2: I apologize you are it. But this kid for Detroit

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Speaker 2: come on, now, he makes an average offensive line good,

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Speaker 2: he makes a good offensive line great and a great

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Speaker 2: office line. You got almost two thousand yards. Would you

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Speaker 2: ever that we're probably be all over the place today.

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Speaker 5: We get a couple bonus days today because the game

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Speaker 5: was last week, recapped it on Friday, so we get

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Speaker 5: extra day. Yeah, we get two extra days. Might take

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Speaker 3: Or tomorrow, for sure.

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Speaker 5: Would you ever, either one of you guys, knowing kind

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Speaker 5: of we went through what a year or two of

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Speaker 5: where you just completely devalued the running back position in

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Speaker 5: the draft, like like you just don't. We're paying them

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Speaker 5: less money, they don't count. We're going to a passing league,

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Speaker 5: and now I think you're starting to see them kind

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Speaker 5: Would you ever, either one of you guys draft a

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Speaker 7: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Yes, I would? Would you Yes? I would? I would.

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Speaker 3: I would have got this kid for Detroit. I would

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Speaker 8: By the way, the Cowboys like Gibbs and if he

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Speaker 8: was there at twenty six.

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Speaker 3: But he went twelve. But this, Chris, this is what

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Speaker 3: would you wait?

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Speaker 2: Because they was at that time I thought we would

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Speaker 2: get lucky because they were trying to devaluate the running backs.

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Speaker 2: But Detroit said, no, we valuate. And I'm with you, Chris,

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Speaker 2: because I'm thinking, boy, if he gets twenty six.

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Speaker 5: Would you waste? Would you not waste? Would you use

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, yes I would.

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Speaker 2: I don't know about the time, because I'm telling you

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Speaker 2: Zeke well, we got him. Was everything in more for

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Speaker 2: If a player is all of that, you gotta get him.

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Speaker 2: You see what we do is we'll let some situation.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 3: And Kansas City did this to everybody.

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Speaker 2: Kansas City got a Checko and a few other guys

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Speaker 2: and some guys and had three or four. This is

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Speaker 2: the ultimate warrior mindset guy, and Andy Reid's he know

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Speaker 3: Every coach at like that.

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Speaker 2: So when you get a chance to get a Gibbs,

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Speaker 2: mister Robinson, you better get them because you ain't Andy Reid.

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Speaker 3: You don't have that mindset.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 2: Even the game last last night, as much as I

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Speaker 3: They dropped it. It was rather in the kids. Man

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Speaker 3: he dropped it.

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Speaker 2: You ain't never seen the tight end drop a pass

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Speaker 2: in like he did last night. Because Andy Rees and

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Speaker 2: that magical man he got a quarterback can put you

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Speaker 2: in a position to win. Everybody can't do that. So

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Speaker 2: when you have a chance to get a player of

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Speaker 2: that ilk uh the Bucky got down and uh, I

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Speaker 2: stop at every BUCkies, not just because.

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Speaker 3: But that the sponsor that is not a sponsor.

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Speaker 8: Remember bjon went to number eight that same ye and

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Speaker 8: then Jim I mean Gibbs and Jeon.

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Speaker 2: That's a two amazing guys, amazing man, amazing the.

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Speaker 6: Top like Jonathan Taylor is the second rounder, James Cook's

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Speaker 6: second round of a chain or whatever. He's a third. Yes,

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Speaker 6: Henry was a second rounder. Javonte Williams, he was a

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Speaker 6: second rounder. So you know, I just worry about spinning

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Speaker 6: really unless you know, unless you're certain they're going to be.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm glad we haven't. It just this is

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Speaker 2: this is what the hanging of the boys should be.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: Now, don't get me wrong, When I want a show

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Speaker 2: up were back at it.

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Speaker 8: But by the way, you got hey, sir, you like

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Speaker 8: that running but you like Gibbs right, And yes, okay sir.

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Speaker 8: The guy coming out this year is pretty good too,

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Speaker 8: is that Jeremiah Love. That's what you're gonna start looking at.

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Speaker 3: Oh he's at uh brother, He's a very very good place.

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Speaker 3: He unique. That's the only reason I watched all the

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Speaker 3: Dame because of him. That's what everybody's gonna be wanting.

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Speaker 3: Everybody's gonna want him the thing that that hurts.

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Speaker 2: And I'm glad we just talking in general, and I

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Speaker 2: want all of y'all thoughts too, because the fan need

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Speaker 2: to know that we have fans. I'm a fan, but

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Speaker 2: I'm just kind of a knowledgeable fan because I get

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Speaker 2: But these two guys are fans and they get knowledge too.

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Speaker 2: So I just think when you don't you say, well,

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Speaker 2: but what was your other alternative? How many number ones

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Speaker 2: are not turning out for us? And oh man, I

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Speaker 2: won't spending on a running back, but I'll spend it

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Speaker 2: on such and such and it don't turn out, then

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Speaker 2: what's your thoughts? You know what I'm saying, so if

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Speaker 2: a player, I believe, if a player has the grade

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Speaker 2: and the ability coming out of college, and I'm one,

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Speaker 2: I have a new rule. It used to be owning

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Speaker 2: my quarterback rule. If you don't play two four.

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Speaker 3: Years in college.

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Speaker 2: In college, you taking a high risk. Your risk is crazy,

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Speaker 2: especially at quarterback. But that's my lineman.

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Speaker 3: Two.

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Speaker 2: I need for my lineman to have two years. Not

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Speaker 2: he played two. He played five games, then he played

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Speaker 2: ten games. I want these twelve games I want and

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Speaker 2: that's hard. That's not hard to find it in college. Well,

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Speaker 2: I'm play twenty four games.

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Speaker 3: It's not hard. Then he played Juco Juco. But I

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Speaker 2: You know, he got two good years in LSU, you know,

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Speaker 2: three years in. It seemed like, you know, Brady, he

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Speaker 2: some guys that probably did. I just don't know many

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Speaker 2: and lit up the league.

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Speaker 3: Chris is, how many guys do you know in it? Well?

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Speaker 3: One year of college and they've come in and.

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Speaker 2: Lit up the league can't be many, you know, So

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Speaker 2: that's my You know, well they.

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Speaker 3: Have to take three years. You're talking about just one

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Speaker 8: Yeah, yes, because what I'm saying of high school three years.

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Speaker 3: He's talking about playing a full sea full season.

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Speaker 2: Now I want full season, two full seasons, and it

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Speaker 2: don't don't bother me.

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Speaker 3: Twenty four games basically, and it don't bother.

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Speaker 2: Me if a quarterback is twenty two or twenty three. Now,

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Speaker 2: in basketball, that'll hurt you. But in football, that's just

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Speaker 2: growing into being a man, that's maturing and understanding it.

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Speaker 2: So I want the majority of my players to have

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Speaker 3: We are going to the measurables too much.

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Speaker 2: He's got the longest arms, he's got the he got

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Speaker 2: the quick feed, he's got this, and he got that.

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Speaker 3: But then when we say well.

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Speaker 2: How much experience, experience does count for something. And that

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Speaker 3: The more situations.

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Speaker 2: You've been in, that's that's hectic and brings you in anxiety,

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Speaker 2: you learn, you know, you learn to win those big games.

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Speaker 3: You learn to win those close games.

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Speaker 2: And I just believe that, man, so I won't experience

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Speaker 2: I want a guy. I would take a guy that's smart,

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Speaker 2: They have, They have never had to deal with millions

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Speaker 3: It's players.

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Speaker 2: The Bengals the other night jumped out on the Bills

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Speaker 3: Morning, coach what it did this? And coach, that's why

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Speaker 2: And that when we beat the Kansas City Chiefs, and when.

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Speaker 2: No coaches that had a belief in what Dak was

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Speaker 3: We talked about this before we came on.

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Speaker 2: Do you really want to just keep I'm gonna tell

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Speaker 2: Just keep keep changing coaches, just keep right on. Let's

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Speaker 2: But let's change the offensive coordinator. Let's you right right

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Speaker 2: about now. I know one coach saying, I show wish

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Speaker 3: You had my coordinators.

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Speaker 2: Coordinators are so key to what happens with your program.

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Speaker 2: And when you get two good ones, you got something special.

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Speaker 2: You got something special. Like k C is going through

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Speaker 2: You know what, Give me some longevity, give me some loevity.

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Speaker 3: We're just kicking.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I didn't really hear all of what

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Speaker 3: What what? Uh?

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Speaker 4: What?

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Speaker 3: What? What?

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Speaker 3: What were they looking for? What? What were you? He

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Speaker 2: And that's why I refuse to go at CD and

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Speaker 2: pick her side and who's one and who's two? Because

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Speaker 3: What what what's the what's the difference?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I just believe this here fellas, we have

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Speaker 2: but come on now, Richard, I don't see you get

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I don't seen Nate Newton give up sacks,

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Speaker 5: Why you can't just say that he had a bad game. Look,

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Speaker 5: criticize them, and it's it's justifiable criticism. I've never met

441
00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 5: a player that has a problem with that. They're like,

442
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,639
Speaker 5: you know what, Yeah, I should have been here and

443
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:40,439
Speaker 5: I was here, I did this, I should have done this.

444
00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,080
Speaker 5: I had a bad game, this was off. It's when

445
00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:46,800
Speaker 5: you start questioning that effort, that's yeah, that's like that's

446
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,000
Speaker 5: like question in your manhood, right like well, whoa whoa?

447
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:49,800
Speaker 3: Whoa? Whoa?

448
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:51,959
Speaker 5: You you know you're not out there on the practice

449
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:53,520
Speaker 5: field with me, You're not you don't know what's going

450
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:54,240
Speaker 5: on behind the scenes.

451
00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:57,359
Speaker 3: I think that's the that's the the the no no.

452
00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:01,360
Speaker 5: The taboo thing is when you question you know your

453
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,920
Speaker 5: effort or your heart or your drive.

454
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,919
Speaker 3: I think that's the big no. Not with the with

455
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:08,719
Speaker 3: the pressure.

456
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:14,159
Speaker 5: So what, Nate, what's your favorite position to watch? Do

457
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,439
Speaker 5: you do you enjoy watching the trenches, the offensive, the d.

458
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,480
Speaker 2: I do watch the trenches, but not like I used

459
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:24,199
Speaker 2: to like just to say every time it's I'm not

460
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 2: gonna I'm a little too old and I'm not gonna

461
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,640
Speaker 2: live like that. I'm trying to enjoy. I'm gonna try

462
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:33,159
Speaker 2: to enjoy football. And like I say, but when I

463
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,200
Speaker 2: see something like I've been telling you guys for the

464
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:38,359
Speaker 2: last seven eight weeks, offense and line gotta get healthy,

465
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,679
Speaker 2: and they got to play together, you know, and.

466
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,160
Speaker 6: It's been the problem, just tackles in and out.

467
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,479
Speaker 3: Yes sir, yes, sir. And then we remember we had

468
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:49,880
Speaker 3: to guard a centagone for four weeks, did y'all when

469
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:53,440
Speaker 3: you played? We were fortunate? Were y'all like fortunate? Y'all

470
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 3: didn't have a ton of like major injuries? Did very fortunate.

471
00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,159
Speaker 2: We may lose like two and they we lost for

472
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 2: a year, we lost Stepnosky for a half year, but

473
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 2: we were very fortunate not to have a lot of injury.

474
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 2: We were very very fortunate. I think one time we're

475
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 2: at almost two straight years of no major injuries. So

476
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:16,720
Speaker 2: that that is key in getting to know the guy.

477
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:23,119
Speaker 2: You see where the right guard booker is good, great,

478
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 2: and then you'll see okay, learning period. You know, you'll

479
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:33,240
Speaker 2: see where Tyler Guiden is an athlete. I will not

480
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 2: take that away from him, but his belief and what

481
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,640
Speaker 2: he got, he won't use it. I will watch him

482
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:47,200
Speaker 2: overset guy after guy after guy instead of him trusting

483
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 2: that if he stay a half a man when he's

484
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:53,359
Speaker 2: setting and he run, he's got the foot speed to

485
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,159
Speaker 2: run a guy around the horn.

486
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,160
Speaker 3: I don't know why he don't believe that.

487
00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:01,920
Speaker 2: But that's on him, because you know, I haven't seen

488
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 2: enough of Nate Thomas to know. Thomas kind of got

489
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,440
Speaker 2: brought into the league. They baptized me. I don't know

490
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,399
Speaker 2: if he Protestant, Catholic, or whatever. He laid hands on him.

491
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 2: You know, you brought.

492
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 6: Up something, you mentioned something that I wanted to ask

493
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 6: you about talking about the tackles, Schattenheimer said, that their

494
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,200
Speaker 6: sets weren't great. I think he's especially Thomas, and they

495
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 6: were passive. I'm not really what was He kind of

496
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:27,680
Speaker 6: referenced like.

497
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 3: He was he was passive.

498
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:34,719
Speaker 2: Me, you're giving ground too quickly. But you know, I

499
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 2: spent the whole show you can action the cole. I'm

500
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 2: so mad at Nate and I saw it in training

501
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:44,440
Speaker 2: camp and I spoke to coach briefly. Coach he needed

502
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 2: to be stop with the casual sets. And what I

503
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,920
Speaker 2: mean by it truly look up the word casual.

504
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not.

505
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:55,439
Speaker 6: I'm not.

506
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 4: Well.

507
00:26:55,880 --> 00:27:00,719
Speaker 2: You know more about football is so sudden. It's sudden,

508
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 2: a sudden explosiveness. That's what football is, especially for an

509
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 2: offensive deal like, it's sudden explosiveness. And when you and

510
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 2: what I mean by that is when he's setting instead

511
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 2: of him bah bah.

512
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 3: And getting ready to fight, he floating out there like

513
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:22,679
Speaker 3: your Cadillac bro be a mustang. Be quick and hard,

514
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:24,199
Speaker 3: quick and fast. You know.

515
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. A coaching thing, uh attitude.

516
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 2: What the coaches try to do is adjust to your

517
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 2: who you are as a player. And one time he

518
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 2: had a mental and his that got a sack early

519
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 2: in the game. Where I don't know what he saw inside.

520
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 2: He looked inside and set twice one two, but he

521
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 2: was looking inside and by the time he realized that, oh,

522
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 2: he was gone. God, that guy Muhammad was passing And

523
00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 2: I'm saying to myself, whoa why was he?

524
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:00,919
Speaker 3: Why was he looking inside?

525
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 2: On that play it could have been a safety had

526
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 2: walked up to the line. I was threatening to blitz

527
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 2: into the line, and he was probably saying he was

528
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:12,239
Speaker 2: already presetting itself to go inside. But that ain't your

529
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 2: responsibility that dude that's standing out next to you.

530
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 3: Unless that guy is.

531
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 2: Owned the line or a yard or less than a

532
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 2: yard to that line, you don't even worry about him

533
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:27,439
Speaker 2: because Dak sind are the back send, you know, and

534
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 2: if it's hot, it's up to Dak. But don't you

535
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 2: don't you look in there and get his more free

536
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,360
Speaker 2: run hit Dack, which which what happened?

537
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 3: Can you in the off season?

538
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 5: Receivers in the quarterback they can just go out to

539
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 5: the backyard and throw the ball and play. Running backs

540
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 5: can do foot drills. Do offensive linemen ever invite defensive lineman, Hey,

541
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 5: let's go work together, because you don't really get hands

542
00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 5: and you don't really get that high impact contact unless

543
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 5: you're practice.

544
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 2: What we used to do in practice and during the

545
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 2: summer camps is we would get somebody like a wide

546
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 2: receiver depending on your skill set as a tackle, or

547
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 2: we'll get a tight end and we'll just running loop.

548
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 3: What we call run the.

549
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 2: Loop is we'll we'll get to a certain set and

550
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 2: we'll let that guy just take off.

551
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 3: Once we get right here, we'll let that guy take off.

552
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 2: And the automatically make us pop our hips and get

553
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 2: our hand around and put it on his hip and

554
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 2: just keep running.

555
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 3: Learn he's teaching yourself, because most people when they.

556
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 2: Turn that hip, they panic and they go to luncheon

557
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 2: and and and the quarterback has the ability to step up.

558
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 2: You gotta trust that Dak can feel that to step.

559
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 3: Up, and you just keep running with your hand on

560
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 3: his hip.

561
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,239
Speaker 2: Don't lose your feet, you know, keep your head up,

562
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 2: don't lose your feet, pop them hips and get on

563
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 2: around and just go and get on your wheels and

564
00:29:57,840 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 2: go to run for everything you got and just push

565
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 2: your on past. A lot of times that quarterback can

566
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 2: feel that and step up, you know. But if you

567
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 2: give up too quick, then that guy can push back

568
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 2: in and get your quarterback and hit his arm or whatever.

569
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 2: But if you keep pushing that pushing speed on him,

570
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 2: he can't get his arm up.

571
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 5: But do you do, guys, because there's not a whole

572
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 5: lot of three hundred plus six foot four and six

573
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 5: foot five guys that you can simulate movement and mass

574
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 5: like I. You know, I ain't got a whole lot

575
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 5: of friends that are that big to go, Hey, come

576
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 5: out here and just come at me.

577
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 2: And the thing is, I want a tight end or

578
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 2: wide receiver running this thing from this loop because of

579
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 2: the speaking, because of the speed, because Tyler got the

580
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 2: athletic ability.

581
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 3: But you guys did that. You invited guys to you.

582
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 2: Know, we told them, hey, dude, we need for you

583
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 2: to help us, you know, and you just tell them, hey, man,

584
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 2: come on over here. I want you to get me

585
00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 2: five or six you know things you may not even

586
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 2: touch them, not one time, but it's teaching you to

587
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 2: open your hips, drop that foot, run and push with

588
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 2: everything you got without leaning half of eye.

589
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 3: Guys are hand heavy, And.

590
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 2: What I mean by hand heavy is they depended on

591
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 2: everything on their hands.

592
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 3: So when they punch, they incided them punching like this.

593
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 2: They punching like this, and when you do that, they

594
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 2: just batch it down and your weight is already over

595
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 2: your knees.

596
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 3: You just fall forward, you know how they double bashing,

597
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 3: and all of a sudden you going hey, why, like wow,

598
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 3: what would just happen there?

599
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 2: So it's just little technical things like that that they

600
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 2: got to be mindful of in the game because Dak

601
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 2: up until this last he didn't happen for them.

602
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 3: For excuse me, Ah got.

603
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 2: Us in Carolina, they got us in Denver because of

604
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 2: these guys wasn't playing together backups here. Now you were

605
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 2: all together. The only person they missing his guidance. Now

606
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 2: you're working a new guy and you work. Yeah, you

607
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 2: working a new guy in the Nate Thomas, Now he understands.

608
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 3: It's it ain't. But most guys got a great move.

609
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 2: They got one great move that they depend on defensively

610
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 2: as a pass rusher. The great ones can do two

611
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 2: or three great along with the great one. But the

612
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 2: average guy got that one great move and maybe one

613
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 2: and a half more. But once you know that one

614
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 2: great movie and that second best move, now you can

615
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 2: always play to it. Depending on where you at on

616
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 2: the field. What's the down and distance this situation? You know,

617
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 2: you know where your help coming from. We got turn

618
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 2: protection you the center. I'm turning this way. I got

619
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 2: a real fast guy. I'm gonna let you know, Hey,

620
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 2: I'm gonna set out. I'm gonna set out wide, so

621
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 2: that means you gotta come on. I'm gonna say I'm

622
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 2: gonna set a little short.

623
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 3: Now. You can just kind of ease into it, you.

624
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 2: Know, because you know, and if I got a guy

625
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 2: that I can just whoop the death, we'll just turn

626
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 2: the protection of the way. If mantoy can handle this

627
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 2: left side, we'll just turn protection the other way all

628
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629
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Speaker 3: Who how interested are we in this game now this

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Speaker 3: week as a fanking game? Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Seven percent to get into the into the playoffs? Like

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Speaker 5: are you interested in the game? Well, yeah, we want

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Speaker 5: them to win, but like, how realistic is I think

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Speaker 5: a lot of how how much does your give a crap?

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Speaker 3: Go down?

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Speaker 5: If the if Philly wins tonight, Because if they win tonight, basically,

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Speaker 5: you're you're.

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Speaker 3: Pretty much done.

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Speaker 5: But if they lose, does that make your interest in

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Speaker 5: this game Sunday go way more hope?

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Speaker 6: For sure? But I think this team.

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Speaker 3: Is are you membery rephrase it? Are you more interested in.

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Speaker 5: Next season now and developing guys and letting some young

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Speaker 5: guys get some reps and seeing what we have at

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Speaker 5: linebacker and seeing what we have you know, depth wise?

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Speaker 3: Are you still in.

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Speaker 5: Give me another game or two to make sure I'm

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Speaker 5: mathematically eliminated before we give these guys reps?

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Speaker 6: Still in that, I still want to see them put

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Speaker 6: a little pressure, give a little hope. I still want

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Speaker 6: them to be winning. Yeah, I'm not ready to, you know,

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Speaker 6: bring in the you know, the younger guys. There are

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Speaker 6: already a lot of young guys playing, But I'm not

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Speaker 6: ready for that. I think that, But it's a twofold thing.

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Speaker 6: I think you start winning now, it obviously creates hope

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Speaker 6: for this year, but you're generating momentum for next year.

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Speaker 6: So I think that's there's still definitely something.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna ask a question, And.

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Speaker 2: I mean, just this makes sense to me, It may

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Speaker 2: not make sense to other people.

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Speaker 3: Because the hope of the Cowboys is so high.

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Speaker 2: If I gave you two thousand dollars, I said, hey, man,

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Speaker 2: you can go up the road and beed it, but

710
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Speaker 2: you only have a twenty percent chance of winning.

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Speaker 3: Would you go.

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Speaker 5: So free money? I'm gonna keep it or I could

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Speaker 5: keep it too.

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Speaker 3: I'm keeping that ball.

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Speaker 6: I'm keeping it, you know.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So the Cowboys is that two thousand dollars, bro

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Speaker 2: that was before this game a twenty percent chance to

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Speaker 2: go to the playoffs. And I'm saying to myself, and

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Speaker 2: that's because we was doing the pregation, Like, why you

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Speaker 2: ain't hyped up? I said, because if I had two

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Speaker 2: thousand dollars and I had a twitter chance win, I

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Speaker 2: think I'm gonna keep my two thousand dollars. So they're like,

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Speaker 2: what do you say it? I'm like, I ain't saying.

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying, the Cowboys are the two thousand dollars.

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Speaker 5: When would you When would you start giving young guys

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Speaker 5: reps when you're mathematically eliminated?

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Speaker 3: No, he like you said, who are not play? Who

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Speaker 3: is not played? Would you give him more time?

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Speaker 5: Though?

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Speaker 2: You got to give the best players at this point

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Speaker 2: in time. If coach Shottenheimer want to continue to try

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Speaker 2: to build on what he has. You have to continue

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Speaker 2: to play. The best players got to continue unless you

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Speaker 2: know in your heart, yeah, you know, just to get

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Speaker 2: to know each other.

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Speaker 3: This is what made me laugh.

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Speaker 2: We played a young guy that hadn't played since he

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Speaker 2: played in college, a cornerback, and.

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Speaker 3: I was watching a little bit of a game on him.

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Speaker 2: Cha yes, and people saying, why wasn't he pressing? I

741
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Speaker 2: don't know why they didn't put him in press But

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Speaker 2: he had a route where he went to turn and

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Speaker 2: he fell down. This kid don't even trust his knees yet.

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Speaker 2: Most cornerbacks stay in some type of bent mode, you know,

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Speaker 2: they always some close to being bent a bent mode.

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Speaker 2: This dude was backpedaling straight up. So when he went

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Speaker 2: to opens hips, they locked on him because he didn't

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Speaker 2: have no explosions. He just tripped and fell. And I'm

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Speaker 2: saying to myself, I wondered if any of the guys

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Speaker 2: that telling these fans that this dude has to get

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Speaker 2: confidence in himself as well as in this defense.

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Speaker 6: We have not had you talking about a guy who

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Speaker 6: hadn't played much in college.

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Speaker 3: Yes, And we talked and we and we're talking about

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Speaker 3: guys that have been in and out of the lineup.

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Speaker 3: Our corners.

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Speaker 2: Bland is the only one and maybe one other guy,

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Speaker 2: but everybody's been in and out, in and out. This

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Speaker 2: has not been a great year for transition for players

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Speaker 2: on this team. We you know, just as our voice

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Speaker 2: of reasoning. But I'm sitting here looking at all of this.

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Speaker 2: I'm taking all of this in saying, Wow, our secondary

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Speaker 2: has not been holed all year long. That's no excuse

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Speaker 2: for not knowing what to do, but is it is

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Speaker 2: excuse in trying to get out there and do it

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Speaker 2: as a unit. Our offensive line for the first time,

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Speaker 2: what we've had for the second time this year, we've

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Speaker 2: had the same group for two games in a row.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: So for this team to be where they're at, because

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Speaker 2: I didn't think they would be right here at this

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Speaker 2: time coming out of try ain't a camp I didn't.

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Speaker 3: I didn't think this. But for them to be.

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Speaker 2: Where they're at and still be enthusiastic about playing. I

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Speaker 2: play these guys because they they still trying to play.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: I see a few guys or what I'm looking at them,

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Speaker 2: you know, as they're getting their food and stuff, they

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Speaker 2: ain't too happy. They ain't not because two weeks ago,

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Speaker 2: but people bouncing. You know what I'm saying now, everybody, No,

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Speaker 2: I have nothing negative to say. You know, I've been

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Speaker 2: in your shoes, you know. And and if I'm blessed

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Speaker 2: enough to be we all be together now. I'm not

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Speaker 2: gonna be its not gonna be.

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Speaker 3: Nate next year.

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Speaker 2: Ah no, no, no, no, you got a year now, you

787
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Speaker 2: got a year under your belt. And whoever we draft,

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Speaker 2: do not talk about, Well, We're gonna make him earn it.

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Speaker 2: If we draft a dude in the first round, if

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Speaker 2: that dude ain't on that field from from OTAs.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna be out them. Coaches.

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Speaker 2: You mean, tam you driving another dude that can't start?

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Speaker 2: Come on now, you can't do.

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Speaker 3: That, right, is correct?

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Speaker 6: Yeah? I mean better not.

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Speaker 3: I bet Jandon Red ain't got no problem with it.

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Speaker 5: And if you look at the schedule like no, I'm

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Speaker 5: looking at the schedule.

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Speaker 3: Like, if you look at who we lost to this year,

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Speaker 3: you're not really mad.

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Speaker 5: I'm mad you lost the well, I mean you're mad

802
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Speaker 5: because you're not where you need to be. But you

803
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Speaker 5: lost to Philly, you lost to Chicago, you lost to Carolina,

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Speaker 5: you lost to Denver, Arizona.

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Speaker 3: Yes, that's the one you're mad about.

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Speaker 6: What they lost what ten of their last eleven games.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and we're the one with the one that they won.

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Speaker 3: And then Detroit.

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Speaker 5: I mean, if you you look at that, Chicago's in

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Speaker 5: the playoffs, probably Carolina's fighting. They fighting like they were

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Speaker 5: everybody wrote them off after the third game of the season, right, So,

812
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Speaker 5: I mean, you didn't have any like bad other than Arizona,

813
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Speaker 5: bad teams that you lost to.

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Speaker 3: It's just maybe it was just a bad year for

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Speaker 3: the schedule, I'm telling you. And I asked the fans

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Speaker 3: this right here.

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Speaker 5: And your defense didn't get it together until you brought

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Speaker 5: in help.

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Speaker 3: That's the big deal, fans. Is this a changing of

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Speaker 3: the guard around the league? Around the league? New England

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Speaker 3: is Levin and whatever, you know New England.

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Speaker 5: You know, I think the interesting thing around the league

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Speaker 5: is the quarterback situation. Like you got what one old

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Speaker 5: dog left, Aaron Rodgers just hanging on by his gray

825
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Speaker 5: hair on his chin.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I guess.

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Speaker 5: But then you've got like the old guys after that

828
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Speaker 5: are with Dak but Mahomes, Josh Allen, Joe Burrows kind

829
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Speaker 5: of getting up.

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Speaker 3: I mean they're not old. So you've got this. You know,

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Speaker 3: they have flux of players that and their longevity is

832
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Speaker 3: getting longer, playing into their forties. Now you got Baker

833
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Speaker 3: Mayfield you're talking about that's had three different careers since

834
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Speaker 3: he had but he is the locked in guy at

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Speaker 3: Tampa Bay.

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Speaker 2: You knowing, The thing is, is this abnominally this year?

837
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Speaker 2: Is everything gonna go back to Kansas City Ravens or is.

838
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Speaker 3: It gonna be the Bears? Yeah? And the Yes yes,

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Speaker 3: Carolina Yeah, so Denver interesting.

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Speaker 2: And these teams, these teams that you just mentioned believe

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Speaker 2: in running the ball, The teams that you just mentioned

842
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:46,320
Speaker 2: truly believes in running the ball, and so and playing defense.

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Speaker 2: All of these teams you name are playing nice to

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Speaker 2: great defense.

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Speaker 5: I think I think running back is going to be

846
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Speaker 5: one of the most interesting offseason stories of the year

847
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Speaker 5: because you've got a good running back since since since

848
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Speaker 5: Zeke was in his prime. You've got the best running

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Speaker 5: back you've had. Do you let him go because he's

850
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Speaker 5: gonna he's gonna get some money somewhere.

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Speaker 3: Do you let him go?

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Speaker 5: And then you've got Maliite Davis in blue behind him.

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Speaker 3: Non no, blue is not a factor, right, So you

854
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 3: got Malik Davis.

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Speaker 5: So do you try to sign resign Williams at probably

856
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Speaker 5: a higher rate because somebody's gonna pay him a little bit?

857
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Speaker 5: Or do you go draft somebody or do you try

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Speaker 5: to get somebody in free agency?

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Speaker 2: And well you're already saying that you don't value the

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Speaker 2: running back position.

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Speaker 5: No, I do, after especially after this year. Like, but

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Speaker 5: do you pay Williams because somebody's gonna pay him, because

863
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Speaker 5: you want to pay pickings or you want a franchise

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Speaker 5: tag him?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 5: I think you got it. I think you saw this

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Speaker 5: year what that running back can do for you. I

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Speaker 5: think you got to have a running back, and I

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Speaker 5: don't think going and drafting one. I don't think you're

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Speaker 5: using one of those first round picks on a running

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Speaker 5: back this year.

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Speaker 2: The thing that you don't have to You don't have

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Speaker 2: to because somebody gonna let a running back slip to

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Speaker 2: you in the second round early.

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Speaker 3: But are you willing to go up and get him?

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Speaker 3: If that's see right.

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Speaker 5: It's gonna cost you something, either cash with with Williams

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Speaker 5: or trade capital or something, right.

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Speaker 2: You know, because I don't know where Scatterbu was drafted,

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Speaker 2: but see, you know that was my one man fantasy.

881
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can laugh at this kid.

882
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:34,359
Speaker 2: But this kid was for one year. It was gonna

883
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 2: do for one year. He was gonna wreck this league

884
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 2: for one year because he was gonna beat himself to dell.

885
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 3: All right, here's another question before we go. We're already overtime.

886
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 3: But was Rico Daldele he was good? I tried to say,

887
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 3: is it a system thing though? That he is? He

888
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 3: that good when he was here and we just didn't

889
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 3: use him the.

890
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 2: Right trying to tell y'all eight hundred times, most running

891
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 2: backs can really run.

892
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:02,800
Speaker 3: Got office.

893
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 5: You know how it's been since we've seen it. Two

894
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 5: hundred yard rushing game here in Carolina. He's had how

895
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:10,879
Speaker 5: many two or three?

896
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:13,799
Speaker 2: And he's gone to beat himself to death. That was

897
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 2: the thing. They ain't think he can do. The Longeogarty thing.

898
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 2: Which now Hubert Chubble hugo whatever excuse me, Hubbard? Yeah,

899
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:26,400
Speaker 2: what is his name? Man, Hubby Chubby? Well, he's from

900
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:29,880
Speaker 2: Oklahoma State and uh he's back. He's back running the

901
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 2: ball a lot now.

902
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:37,319
Speaker 5: So all right, good Jesse, we missed you, Thank you, Nate,

903
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:38,400
Speaker 5: good stuff.

904
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Speaker 3: Kurt, all right, thy too? I mean one put.

905
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Speaker 5: Jesse will see tomorrow. Chris, thanks for keeping us on

906
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 5: the air. Take some phone calls tomorrow. Call us, tune in,

907
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 5: call us. We will be back tomorrow, same time, same place.

908
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 5: On Hanging with the Boys, we out go.

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