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Speaker 1: It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com.

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Speaker 1: Were with Mbar Garcia, Brian brought Us, Patrick Walker, and

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Speaker 5: It is Wednesday, September twentieth, twenty twenty three, Season nineteen,

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Speaker 5: episode number thirty five. Welcome to the latest edition of

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Speaker 5: The Break, live from the s WBC Mortgage Studios at

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Speaker 5: the Star. Got the crew here today, we're talking Cowboys football,

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Speaker 5: and specifically we're talking Cowboys versus Cardinals. To day, we'll

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Speaker 5: get into the Cowboys offense versus the Cardinals defense. We

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Speaker 5: will get you caught up on the injuries that we'll

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Speaker 5: be watching throughout the week, and just in general set

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Speaker 5: the table for you guys for the Week three of

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Speaker 5: the NFL season.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk.

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Speaker 5: Let's get started first with the injury updates.

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Speaker 2: Patrick.

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Speaker 5: We got four guys that I think we're watching throughout

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Speaker 5: the week, Tyler Smith, Donovan Wilson, Zach Martin and Brandon Cooks.

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Speaker 5: What do we know going into this week as far

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Speaker 5: as each of them are concerned.

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Speaker 6: Well, as we speak, Mike McCarthy is holding his press conference,

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Speaker 6: so we'll get just like last week, this time we'll

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Speaker 6: get some real time updates here via text in a

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Speaker 6: moment on guys like Zach Martin, Tyler Smith, Donovan Wilson,

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Speaker 6: Brandon Cooks, and Chewwi Ydoga who suffered a higher extended elbow.

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Speaker 6: But what we do know thus far before we get

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Speaker 6: those Mike McCarthy updates, is that Jerry Jones and the

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Speaker 6: Cowboys and Zach Martin himself pretty much feel that he

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Speaker 6: will be a go against the card. Knows there should

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Speaker 6: be no limitations, no missing of playing time for Zack Martin.

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Speaker 6: What happened was he rolled his ankle, but then he

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Speaker 6: actually continued to play, and he set himself after the

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Speaker 6: have stayed in. So I think Zach Martin's going to

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Speaker 6: be It's Zach Martin.

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Speaker 5: That's kind of games Cowboys playing.

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Speaker 2: This is not really that tight.

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Speaker 6: We're all right, So I think he's going to be fine.

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Speaker 6: And again I'm interested to see what McCarthy says this

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Speaker 6: morning as far as the remaining guys, but having spoken

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Speaker 6: the plan, unless it's changed, is for them to be

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Speaker 6: limited in practice today and if all goes well there,

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Speaker 6: then all three of them will be ramped up in

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Speaker 6: Thursday's practice. But McCarthy specifically said the goal quote is

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Speaker 6: So good news there, and it looks like Chunydoga has

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Speaker 6: as well. So waiting for some updates for this morning

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Speaker 6: from McCarthy's press conference. Those techs should come in here shortly.

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Speaker 6: But that's where we are at the moment.

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Speaker 5: Have you guys been shocked at all by what Chunlei

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Speaker 2: And it was more worried. I think the Giants game.

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Speaker 2: We used the word bridge player yesterday. We were talking

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Speaker 6: I will say that I was pleasantly surprised. I mean,

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Speaker 6: if Tyler Smith missed, and we also said that until

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Speaker 6: he did struggle, had more downs than ups, and you know,

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Speaker 6: we sat here we said, give this young man his roses,

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Speaker 6: And one thing about it is now you've seen two

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Speaker 6: going forward if Tyler Smith miss his time, and hopefully

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Speaker 6: And also credit to the coaching staff. We talk a

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Speaker 6: to do square peg round hole type thing. And Tuma

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Speaker 6: Mike McCarthy, he does it again, So kudos to everyone

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's impressive and everything that they just said. We

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Speaker 7: No, But you know, injuries are bound to happen, especially

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Speaker 5: Yeah, not only that, Brian, I remember you mentioned I

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Speaker 2: Responsing backing on somebody. Then actually no, you were.

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Speaker 5: You were making a point to Pete Prisco, which I

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Speaker 2: So we haven't even gotten.

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Speaker 2: Got some information over there you're looking at that.

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Speaker 6: Yes, I was just getting the updates from McCarthy's press conference.

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Speaker 6: So Zach Martin will likely be D and P today

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and thanks for those updates. It's just good news.

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Speaker 2: The thing with Pete is that you know, he was like, well,

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Speaker 2: You know, those some unfortunate things that happened with Donovan

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Speaker 7: With you mention in McCarthy and what he's done with

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Speaker 7: keeping his players healthy, we finally kind of overcome that

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Speaker 7: there was always some kind of hamstring injury, and those

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Speaker 6: know about well it's another it's a trap game. How

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Speaker 2: Now it's once.

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Speaker 6: You show me you can do a thing, I want

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Speaker 2: So I want to see it again.

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Speaker 7: I think that can carry over for sure this week.

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Speaker 7: For me, the storyline would be can the Cowboys offense

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Speaker 7: You got into it, explaining everything that kind of seem

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Speaker 7: Can everyone start being on the same page. Can we

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Speaker 7: I just need to see the offense just starting to

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Speaker 2: I'm a believer in the desperate team theory, and you're

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Speaker 2: as Patrick talked about, that they had in hand, and

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Speaker 2: as a program, you're trying to build on that. Yes,

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Speaker 2: I always worry about these types of games. The Cowboys

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Speaker 2: You know, from way will I pick the Cowboys to win? Likely?

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Speaker 2: But these are the types of games I absolutely hated

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Speaker 5: Real quick, before we go to break, I'll take a

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Speaker 5: He says, we'll Sunday's game in Arizona be a home

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Speaker 5: that's one of the stadiums where and it goes back

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Speaker 2: It will, And the thing about it is, you got

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Speaker 2: know they they'll have a couple opportunities You've got that.

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Speaker 2: You know, they got a Los Angeles game on a

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Speaker 2: They they are not afraid to put their money where

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Speaker 5: You're right about that. The Rams, and we played the

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Speaker 5: We're gonna talk Cowboys. Talk Cowboys offense versus Cardinals defense.

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Speaker 2: Brian go, all right, this team defensively, they play a

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Speaker 2: three four front, or what we call an odd man front.

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Speaker 2: The team is already down. LJ. Collier was out with

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Speaker 2: rest of the year. It sounds like talking to my

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00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:27,639
Speaker 2: folks in Arizona. So Watkins, though, when he plays, he

437
00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:30,520
Speaker 2: does a really good job of staying square along the

438
00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:32,560
Speaker 2: line of scrimmage. When you talk about defending the run,

439
00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:34,399
Speaker 2: it's kind of something you did with the Cowboys. He

440
00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,080
Speaker 2: didn't always get turned. He was Goyte State, square, plays

441
00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:40,600
Speaker 2: off blocks, gets rid of guys. So as you're blocking him,

442
00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:42,440
Speaker 2: you know to try and turn him as a little

443
00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:46,440
Speaker 2: bit of a difficult situation, but you know the Cowboys

444
00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:48,720
Speaker 2: will be aware of that going against him. It's a

445
00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:52,840
Speaker 2: unit that plays with more power than athletic ability. They

446
00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:54,960
Speaker 2: will line up at times in a bear front. Again,

447
00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,320
Speaker 2: a barefront is they'll cover the center and they'll cover

448
00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:00,720
Speaker 2: the two guards, and what they'll do is the purposes

449
00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,920
Speaker 2: is to try and make the inside three. You're inside

450
00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:08,080
Speaker 2: three have to take on one on one blocks. So

451
00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:11,439
Speaker 2: this is where you got to keep an eye on

452
00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,359
Speaker 2: Tyler Biadish in this game, because be Odish is usually

453
00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:16,880
Speaker 2: either uncovered or there's a guy on his shoulder. Now,

454
00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,200
Speaker 2: to do the snap with a guy breathing the same

455
00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,120
Speaker 2: air as you're breathing is one thing that you can

456
00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,320
Speaker 2: kind of mess with you when you start making calls

457
00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,720
Speaker 2: and adjustments. You got that guy right there. Now you're

458
00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:29,600
Speaker 2: trying to see. Now you're trying to find where their

459
00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:33,520
Speaker 2: guys are. They're all standing up, so they're trying to

460
00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:35,320
Speaker 2: confuse you a little bit. They're trying to make you

461
00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:37,679
Speaker 2: do some stuff with the one on one blocks. His

462
00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,359
Speaker 2: job is going to be snap first, block second. I

463
00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:43,640
Speaker 2: really like what I've seen from Kevin Strong with this unit.

464
00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:47,040
Speaker 2: He's a defensive tackle. You have to be careful of

465
00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,960
Speaker 2: him because he likes to back door plays like you'll

466
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:51,959
Speaker 2: be reach blocking. You know, you'll be moving to your

467
00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,919
Speaker 2: left and he'll run behind a block to make a

468
00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,480
Speaker 2: tackle for a loss. He's had three tackles this year.

469
00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,640
Speaker 2: One of them was behind the line, but that's kind

470
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:01,440
Speaker 2: of his technique. He'll kind of let you get by

471
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:06,040
Speaker 2: him and then he'll backdoor you for that for that play.

472
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:10,200
Speaker 2: The linebackers are the playmakers of this group. Kazar White

473
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,320
Speaker 2: he leads the teams and tackles. He's going to line

474
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:16,359
Speaker 2: up all over the formation. He has a feel for

475
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:18,320
Speaker 2: how to get to the ball. He's a really good

476
00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:21,280
Speaker 2: finisher win a position. As a ball carrier, you have

477
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:23,479
Speaker 2: to be careful with him because he's always ripping at

478
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:25,480
Speaker 2: the ball. He's one of those he's like Michael was

479
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,240
Speaker 2: doing in the game the other day. You know when

480
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,359
Speaker 2: he rips the ball, you know out of the running

481
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:32,959
Speaker 2: backs hands. That's what Kazar White is going to do.

482
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,639
Speaker 2: He's going to try and create turnovers. He could be

483
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:39,240
Speaker 2: an effective blitzer as well if he has a weakness.

484
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,680
Speaker 2: He's a guy that will jump around blocks, so he'll

485
00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,639
Speaker 2: give you some space. Sometimes the balls come in his direction,

486
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:46,640
Speaker 2: he'll try and jump around a block to get back

487
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:48,800
Speaker 2: in to the play and then the ball was able

488
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,280
Speaker 2: to get behind him. So if you get him jumping

489
00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:55,800
Speaker 2: around blocks, like the defensive tackle was making plays, White

490
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,000
Speaker 2: was missing some plays. So he's got to be careful

491
00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 2: when he's doing that. Uh, Victor D. I'm gonna say

492
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 2: this name. It's so funny to say Victor D. Moukage is.

493
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 2: He's another linebacker. He's been outstanding as well. He's a

494
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 2: really powerful tackler. He's showing the ability to create turnovers

495
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,440
Speaker 2: with his hits. He's a physical guy.

496
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 7: Uh.

497
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,880
Speaker 2: As far as their pass rusher goes, the guy you're

498
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 2: gonna have to worry about is a guy named Dennis

499
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,960
Speaker 2: Gardeck yep and guard Deck is relentless in the way

500
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,360
Speaker 2: he plays. He'll line up on both sides of the formation.

501
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,200
Speaker 2: He's always in attack mode. He's the type of guy

502
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,680
Speaker 2: that never gives up on a play. You could block

503
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 2: him for one or two counts and then if you

504
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,919
Speaker 2: expect to just stop and then he's not gonna and

505
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,159
Speaker 2: he's gonna stop with you. That's not that. That's not

506
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,560
Speaker 2: the case. You need to stay on him the entire

507
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,159
Speaker 2: time until the whistle blows because he's a guy that

508
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 2: when he gets close to making a play, you feel like, oh,

509
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:49,400
Speaker 2: the quarterback is going to run through the line. He's there.

510
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,440
Speaker 2: He makes the tackle just because it's an effort type

511
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,879
Speaker 2: of a player there, So you have to be aware

512
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,960
Speaker 2: of Dennis guard deck here. He's really a good player

513
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,639
Speaker 2: for them, Butcarthy's gonna need to know where he lines

514
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 2: up during the game to be able to account for him,

515
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,399
Speaker 2: because he's got three sacks and two games and a

516
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,880
Speaker 2: lot of it is about how just relentless that he plays.

517
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 2: The secondary lines up with Kendrel Clark and Marco Wilson

518
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:17,439
Speaker 2: at his corners. Jalen Thompson is the nickel. These corners

519
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 2: will flip sides throughout the game, so you're going to

520
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:21,159
Speaker 2: see him. You're not going to see him playing in

521
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 2: the same spot. Didn't know. I was trying to kind

522
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 2: of gauge. Is it because they're traveling, Are they just

523
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 2: trying to try to not Is it a strong or

524
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 2: weak situation? You really couldn't figure out what the rhyme reason.

525
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 2: But you're going to see him on both sides of

526
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:38,640
Speaker 2: the of the formation. Wilson is super aggressive. Ultra aggressive

527
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,119
Speaker 2: is the word I used in the way he plays.

528
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,199
Speaker 2: He's not afraid to gamble to make a play on

529
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 2: the ball. I've seen him go right through receivers in

530
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,360
Speaker 2: order to knock the ball down. Both Clark and Wilson

531
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 2: are both willing tacklers. If there's a weakness with the group,

532
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 2: it's you will see separation at time with them during routes.

533
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 2: And I would say, don't be surprised that if McCarthy

534
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 2: doesn't take some shots down the field. Cook and we've

535
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 2: talked about Michael Gallup. There were several times where in

536
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,719
Speaker 2: the two games I watched with the Commander's game and

537
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,639
Speaker 2: then this Giants game where receivers were getting past. As

538
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 2: matter of fact, the Giants were able to get their

539
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:15,639
Speaker 2: guys deep a couple of different times that resulted in

540
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 2: some pretty big plays. So you'll see where on this

541
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 2: defense it opponents attack the middle of their defense. Routes

542
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,400
Speaker 2: will open up with how they play their linebackers real

543
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 2: tight to the line and to help with pass rush,

544
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 2: and then it kind of opens up space between its

545
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,680
Speaker 2: safeties and the linebackers. So keep an eye on stuff

546
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 2: going down the field. And then in the middle of

547
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 2: the of the defense. Kevon Wallace is a safety. He's

548
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:43,199
Speaker 2: the one that tends to carry tight ends and routes.

549
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,919
Speaker 2: So all the Cowboys tight ends will be probably with

550
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 2: some type of coverage where Keavon Wallace will be on

551
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 2: the primary Whoever they feel like that, that's your guy.

552
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,399
Speaker 2: Buddha Baker, who was a very talented safety. He injured

553
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,920
Speaker 2: his hamishing a practice defense. Yeah, and he got hurt

554
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 2: with the Giants game and he's on He's going to

555
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,679
Speaker 2: miss the game because he's on injured reserve. My final

556
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,640
Speaker 2: thoughts of this is these coaches like to show blitz

557
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 2: and then they back out, and then there's other times

558
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,959
Speaker 2: where they will completely sell out. Their alignment looks very similar,

559
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,199
Speaker 2: as I said, to how the Cowboys rush with a

560
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 2: couple players down and then standing around waiting. You have

561
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:21,919
Speaker 2: to be ready to sort all that out if you're

562
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 2: the offensive line, no bust there, you know, and all

563
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 2: of a sudden, you can't have free rushers on Dak

564
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,640
Speaker 2: if you didn't sort it out the right way. I've

565
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 2: also seen this unit get a sack with a three

566
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 2: man rush in a Giants game, so that goes back

567
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,360
Speaker 2: to the relentless play that they have. But overall it's

568
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 2: kind of a mid pack of a defense. I think

569
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,400
Speaker 2: that they have to do something scheme wise to make

570
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 2: up for the lack of talent that they have in

571
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 2: some areas.

572
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 5: Here's the deal, We've got a lot to unpack from that,

573
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 5: I will make one quick note. I was looking at

574
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 5: some advanced stats, some stats from the NFL Marco Wilson

575
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:59,119
Speaker 5: Derek cornerback last week in situations where he was the

576
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 5: closest defender, he gave up seven receptions for one hundred

577
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 5: and fifty five.

578
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 2: Yards, nine targets.

579
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, he was a guy that the Giants obviously went

580
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:11,399
Speaker 5: after and they ate him alive. And so my question

581
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 5: would be, how does that match up with the Cowboys.

582
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 5: Is he typically on one side? Is he a guy

583
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 5: that moves around.

584
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 2: It's never gonna play in the slot, But I'm saying

585
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 2: he's gonna move either side. Yeah, they're gonna move that.

586
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,159
Speaker 2: Like I say, he and Clark are both gonna flop.

587
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 2: And I was trying to figure out is it a

588
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 2: strong Sometimes in college you could say he's a boundary corner,

589
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,400
Speaker 2: which means he plays to the sidelines, and the other

590
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 2: guy's the field corner, which plays. But the hashes in

591
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 2: the NFL are more narrow than there are collegiately, so

592
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 2: you don't get the vision of the boundary or field corner.

593
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 2: And I was trying to feel, like, see if they

594
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 2: were covering, if they were doing it, because they felt

595
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 2: like that they were gonna match up, and I just

596
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 2: think it's kind of one of those things. It's in

597
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 2: the scheme. They say, we're not gonna let you get

598
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 2: a feel, so we're gonna go right and left here

599
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 2: and like, but the Jets were stationed. Jets were just

600
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 2: a stationary group. You're gonna see Wilson on one, Clark

601
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 2: on the other, and maybe the next series it completely flops.

602
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 5: And is it not Is it specific to the receivers

603
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 5: that they're covering.

604
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 2: I don't know that. I just think I think it's

605
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 2: one of those things. I was like, I say, I

606
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 2: was trying to see are you trying to play a

607
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 2: field corner or a boundary corner here? And I just

608
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 2: couldn't get a feel for where are they trying to Well,

609
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 2: they tried to take Terry McLaurin out of the game.

610
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,239
Speaker 2: I couldn't get that feel. I just it was like,

611
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 2: maybe it's just scheme specific, as they say this series

612
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 2: we're going we're gonna flop it, or you know, maybe

613
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 2: maybe you're getting a situation too where they feel like

614
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 2: a team is right handed or they feel like, okay,

615
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 2: we stopped him here and now they're gonna come back.

616
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 2: Let's flip it the other way. I think they feel

617
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 2: like that that Wilson, even though all the stats he

618
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 2: gave up the other day, I have to feel like that.

619
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 2: They feel like he's their best corner. But to me,

620
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 2: he's going to gamble, he's gonna be aggressive, he's gonna

621
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 2: give up some plays, and all of them give up separation.

622
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 2: The safeties as well. There's some separation when you watch

623
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 2: them play that that has to be concerning to them.

624
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 7: What are those thoughts for week one?

625
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 2: I didn't have that one.

626
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 5: That was just one that the NFL pointed out like

627
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 5: this in these advanced stats. That was one that they

628
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 5: pointed out from the Giants game that he just he

629
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 5: completely just it was a tough day for him. They

630
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 5: hadn't been a cornerback to give up that many yards

631
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 5: in the game since Week five of twenty twenty two

632
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 5: of all the games in the NFL, So it was

633
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 5: it was a tough day for him.

634
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 6: But what makes it harder on him? And it's going

635
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 6: to be even more so this week, particularly if Cooks

636
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 6: is back, because you see what Ceede Lamb was able

637
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 6: to do when against the Jets and one hundred and

638
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 6: forty three yards on eleven catches. Now you potentially and

639
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 6: likely throw Cooks back in there. And like you said,

640
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 6: we're looking for Michael Gallup to take a step forward.

641
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 6: Jayalen too.

642
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 2: It could be a game where he can have a game, Yeah, but.

643
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 6: Not having Buddha Baker on that field playing with his

644
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 6: hair on fire. I mean, this is a three time

645
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 6: All Pro safety, five time Pro bowler.

646
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 2: Who isn't to have your back.

647
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 6: If you're one of these aggressive corners and you're so confident,

648
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 6: you're normally playing face forward, and you're confident you want

649
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 6: to try to jump these routes and make these big

650
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 6: plays because guess what, Buddha's right there. So Buddha's got you.

651
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 6: Sideline the sideline, Buddha's got you. Well, Buddha Baker is

652
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Speaker 6: on ir now. So good luck to the cornerbacks who already,

653
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 6: like Brian said, struggle with separation and their risk takers.

654
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 6: On top of that with a safety unit who doesn't

655
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 6: they're talented, but they don't have the Buddha Baker level

656
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Speaker 6: of talent to be able to say, you know what

657
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Speaker 6: I got you, go go jump that route, go press this.

658
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Speaker 6: You know, if he releases, don't worry about it, But

659
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 6: now they have to worry about it. They have to

660
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 6: worry about it against the Giants. Now it's exponentially more

661
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 6: so with a wide receiver group and a more talented

662
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 6: quarterback in Dak Prescott than they saw against Daniel Jones.

663
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Speaker 6: And if you let Daniel Jones light you up like

664
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Speaker 6: that to mount a historic comeback, I mean, Dak Prescott's coming.

665
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Speaker 2: I think if you look at where the Cowboys are

666
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Speaker 2: as a pass blocking unit, and you're the Arizona Cardinals,

667
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 2: I've watched them and you've said, you know what, if

668
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 2: you just try and rush for there's gonna be they're

669
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 2: gonna block you. I mean last week the Jets were

670
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Speaker 2: very cavalier and thought that their rush could just generate

671
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 2: power pressure with four, which you know, I think. I

672
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 2: think Arizona sells out in this game. I do. I

673
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 2: don't think they can let this secondary have to deal

674
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Speaker 2: with all the things Patrick's talking about with the wide

675
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 2: receiver group. I think they have to sell out and

676
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 2: they have to gamble. You know, when you blitz Dak Prescott,

677
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 2: it's generally not a pretty good thing. The metrics will

678
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 2: tell you that. But the way that they're going to

679
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 2: if they just sit there and rush for I just

680
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 2: see the Cowboys blocking them. But even though it's a

681
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 2: lot of standing around, but there's gonna be some blitzing

682
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 2: in this game. Backs are going to have to be

683
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 2: ready for some blitz pick up stuff. But if they

684
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 2: picked this thing up, this secondary will give up play.

685
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Speaker 6: And the Cardinals front, I mean they can get pressure.

686
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 6: I mean this is a team that has nine secs.

687
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Speaker 2: I don't yeah you.

688
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Speaker 6: So for those that are saying, well, you know, maybe

689
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Speaker 6: you want to rest on with another week to that,

690
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 6: I say this, if he's ready to go, and arguably

691
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 6: he was ready to go last week. But if he's

692
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 6: ready to go, you put him out there because this

693
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 6: is a good game to get him back into the mix.

694
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Speaker 6: Because guess what a couple of weeks or so, who

695
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:14,239
Speaker 6: did we talk about yesterday? You got the forty nine

696
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 6: ers coming up. You want Tyler Smith as ready to

697
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Speaker 6: go against a team like the forty nine ers as possible,

698
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Speaker 6: So you put him in against a talented front that

699
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Speaker 6: wants to bring pressure and wants to sell out in

700
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Speaker 6: Arizona to help him get his sea legs again because

701
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Speaker 6: he hasn't played yet this season.

702
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Speaker 2: But also let's be clear, I agree with that.

703
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Speaker 5: I think they're going to need to blitz, but blitzing

704
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 5: has not been what they've been doing so far. Well

705
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 5: when you look at that percentage right now, they're twenty

706
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 5: fifth in the league and blitz percentage, they are not

707
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 5: blitzing as much as you would think. They show blitz

708
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 5: a lot, the don't necessarily.

709
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Speaker 2: Always bring out of it. But see, that's the thing

710
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 2: about it is like you said, they don't show it

711
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 2: but back out. But I feel like though Dallas will

712
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 2: have a plan for Gardik of how you know, I trust,

713
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 2: I trust, I trust Terrett Steele against him, I trust

714
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 2: Tyron Smith against him. I think he's the one guy

715
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 2: you out absolutely have to worry about here in this game.

716
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 2: Because to me, it's just that these other quarterbacks that

717
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 2: they played, you know, and with the Commanders and with

718
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 2: the Giants, you hold the ball. You hold the ball.

719
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 2: Against these guys, it plays into their hands a little

720
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:18,360
Speaker 2: bit just because of the of the pass rush, but

721
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 2: because of like I say, Gardik, he's just a relentless guy.

722
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Speaker 2: And I have a feeling, like I said that Dallas,

723
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 2: if I'm watching Dallas's tape. I'm saying, man, these guys

724
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 2: can pass block, they can do that, they do these

725
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 2: things well, I'm maybe the tendencies and this This coach

726
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 2: came from the Philadelphia Eagles, so he he he grew up,

727
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,959
Speaker 2: he wants to he watched the blitz. But he also

728
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,839
Speaker 2: his four man lined in Philadelphia was pretty damn good.

729
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Speaker 2: You know, So he doesn't have that. But he's got

730
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Speaker 2: a couple of guys I like, because are white. I

731
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Speaker 2: think bringing him, you know, it's going to be about

732
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Speaker 2: if they do how well does Dallas sort things out

733
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Speaker 2: up front and are they on the same page when

734
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:08,359
Speaker 2: it comes to the running backs being there and not

735
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 2: getting in the way. But if there's a blitz pick

736
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Speaker 2: up boom, you have an assignment right there to get

737
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Speaker 2: the game.

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Speaker 5: I'll make one more quick point before we go to break.

739
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Speaker 5: I think part of also what's making this offensive line,

740
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:20,319
Speaker 5: the Cowboys offensive line looks so good against defenses is

741
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 5: the ball's coming out so quick. So even if teams

742
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 5: decide to blitz, we know Dak is good against the blitz.

743
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Speaker 5: He's won the best in the league, particularly against the blitz.

744
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 5: But that being said, I think this offensive line and

745
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Speaker 5: how they're playing this offense and how quickly the ball

746
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 5: is coming out. I think that's helping this offensive line

747
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Speaker 5: and making them look maybe even better than we've seen

748
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Speaker 5: them in the past with the same personnel in a

749
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Speaker 5: lot of instances. Just because the ball's coming out so.

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Speaker 6: Quick, the Cowboys offense was able to mostly delete the

751
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Speaker 6: Jets linebacker corps, and the Jets linebacker corps is definitely

752
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Speaker 6: better than what the Cardinals linebacker corps presents.

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Speaker 5: All right, we're going to take our final break.

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Speaker 5: All right, Let's let's jump back. In his final segment

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Speaker 5: of the break, let's talk about the tight ends. I

817
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Speaker 5: also from from the Next Gen Stats was able to

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Speaker 5: look at these numbers, look at the tight ends and

819
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Speaker 5: their usage. This year, Ferguson has the most sixty four

820
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Speaker 5: point five percent of the snaps. Hindershot with forty one

821
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 5: point three percent of snaps. Schoonmaker got his first catch

822
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 5: and first touchdown at thirty two point six percent, so

823
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 5: it's kind of in that order with Ferguson getting the

824
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,280
Speaker 5: bulk of the snaps among the tight ends. They also

825
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Speaker 5: run multiple tight end sets that would be twelve personnel

826
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:32,760
Speaker 5: thirteen personnel on about thirty six percent of their plays,

827
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Speaker 5: that being said, do you expect those percentages to shift

828
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 5: as time goes on? Do you expect to see Schoonmaker more?

829
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Speaker 5: I think he might be the best blocker you got

830
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:43,439
Speaker 5: at the tight end position. Do you expect to see

831
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,359
Speaker 5: more of him and maybe less of whom in order

832
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Speaker 5: to get to that.

833
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Speaker 2: I've always felt like this, and this goes back to

834
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Speaker 2: the coverage that we had on the Draft show this

835
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 2: past year that Scoon that Michigan's offense held Schoonmaker back,

836
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 2: and I really I believe that what I saw once

837
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 2: he got healthy and was working out, and the way

838
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Speaker 2: he moves, the way he catches the ball, you could

839
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 2: see that's a big body guy that's got a little

840
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 2: it's got a it's got some of that lateral ability

841
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 2: to him to you know, we talked about putting the

842
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Speaker 2: foot in the ground, being able to move to cut

843
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Speaker 2: and all that. I really do like him as the

844
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 2: possibility of not only of a of a point of

845
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Speaker 2: attack blocker, but a guy that can make things. You know,

846
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Speaker 2: you never come off the field. He's gonna block, he's

847
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Speaker 2: gonna catch, he'snna block, He's gonna catch it. By the

848
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 2: end of you you think he's h Yeah, you know Ferguson.

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Speaker 2: I will say this about Ferguson. Ferguson has done a

850
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Speaker 2: much better job of getting his body to where he

851
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:40,839
Speaker 2: can block. And I hope that he doesn't get beat

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Speaker 2: down by it. And I hope he doesn't by week twelve,

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Speaker 2: week thirteen and he's like, you know, I've I've had

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Speaker 2: to block edges, I've had to block tackles they brought

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00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 2: me in motion. I've had to wham on defensive ends,

856
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 2: you know all that stuff. Sometimes those guys get beat

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Speaker 2: down that way. But right now he's on the on

858
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 2: the arrow going up. And I think scoon Maker is

859
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 2: a guy that you'll see once you throw him the ball,

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00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:10,799
Speaker 2: he could be super reliable. Michigan, he was very reliable,

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Speaker 2: Like on third downs, third and seven, he finds a

862
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Speaker 2: way to get ten or eleven yards catching the football.

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Speaker 2: I think we're going to start seeing what the front

864
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Speaker 2: office saw on him when they were doing the pre

865
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Speaker 2: drive stuff with him. To his ability, that kind of

866
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Speaker 2: ability to make plays.

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Speaker 6: I'm right there with you. You know, in training camp

868
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Speaker 6: I mentioned it several times, whereas you know we know

869
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 6: that Schoolmaker as far as scouting him coming in that

870
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 6: he's a phenomenal blocker. But then when he was able

871
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Speaker 6: to get onto the field after battling the plantar fast

872
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:43,439
Speaker 6: shot is I saw several times where he was able

873
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Speaker 6: to get open. And I'm not saying he has the

874
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Speaker 6: separation that Hindershot has, nor does he have the separation

875
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Speaker 6: that Ferguson has. But he is a very very surehanded guy.

876
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,320
Speaker 6: His hands are big, they're sticky, they will get the

877
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Speaker 6: ball when it's thrown at him. He will make plays

878
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Speaker 6: for you in the passing game for the Cowboys. Now,

879
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Speaker 6: is he that yak guy? No, I think that's Hindershot,

880
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Speaker 6: And I think Jake Ferguson, particularly having bulked up a

881
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 6: little bit to be born for a blocker, he's more

882
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Speaker 6: of your do it all kind of guy. So I

883
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 6: think by the end of the season, you're looking at

884
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Speaker 6: you have two tight end, two starting tight ends, two

885
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Speaker 6: te one's one being Jake Ferguson and one being Schoolmaker,

886
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Speaker 6: and then it's just you know, personnel that's being presented

887
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Speaker 6: to you by the opposition, which dictates who gets the

888
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 6: most reps that particular game. But to answer the second

889
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:27,919
Speaker 6: part of your question, if schoolmakers need a less pointed

890
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 6: due north and it most certainly is at the expense

891
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 6: of whom it's going to be Payton Hendershot unless Hindershot

892
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Speaker 6: can really start pushing that envelope. We talked about the

893
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 6: potential touchdown that he could have had last week if

894
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 6: he would have just planted his foot in and go.

895
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 6: And granted he doesn't have the vision that a fullback

896
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:46,839
Speaker 6: like Hunter Lipke would have Tony Pollard at running back

897
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 6: Ricodaldo duce Van, but still those are the types of

898
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 6: plays that you would need to see Hindershot make on

899
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 6: the fly to be able to say, you know what,

900
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Speaker 6: this guy's really going to challenge for reps against Schoolmaker

901
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 6: and Ferguson. But as it stands, yes, Schoolmaker, I mean

902
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 6: he's continuing his trajectory and it's going to I believe

903
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 6: it's going to pick up rapidly, and maybe not even

904
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:07,879
Speaker 6: by the end of the season. Maybe by the time

905
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Speaker 6: we get the Thanksgiving we're really having that question of

906
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 6: who's the true te one. But then it will be

907
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 6: a fun conversation to have because it's a good problem

908
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 6: to have.

909
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think right now, heading into week three for me, Schoolmaker,

910
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 7: his arrow is definitely trending up as opposed to Hendershot that,

911
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 7: to be honest, since training camp, it started trending down

912
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 7: for me. I saw things that I wasn't too excited about,

913
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:38,800
Speaker 7: like drops or him not being on time in certain plays,

914
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 7: and his arrows just started trending down. And Schoolmaker, he's

915
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:47,760
Speaker 7: he has a good type of body, but he always

916
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 7: looks very stiff for me. But it's that kind of

917
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 7: stiffness that doesn't prevent you from still making plays, similar

918
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 7: to like Jason Witten.

919
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Speaker 2: Witness when I watched.

920
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Speaker 7: Jason and play, He's like, that's stiff type of player,

921
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 7: but he's still Jason Witten making those plays for you

922
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 7: and being an athletic guy. So I think not to

923
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 7: compare him to Jason, but I think he reminds me

924
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 7: at times of style. Yes, yes, of some of those

925
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 7: qualities that Witten portrayed during his time playing here for

926
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 7: the Cowboys. So I think he he will become slowly

927
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 7: take the slowly away because he everybody scored his first

928
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:32,800
Speaker 7: first touch, which by the way, was funny on the

929
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 7: sound of the sideline, get the ball, get the ball,

930
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:41,319
Speaker 7: Like that's your first Touchdow save that ball. But yeah,

931
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Speaker 7: I think eventually he's going to become the number one

932
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 7: guy for you, just because he does have all those

933
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 7: qualities that you won on the tight end number one

934
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Speaker 7: and he just needs to, you know, slowly move on there.

935
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Speaker 7: But he has it.

936
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Speaker 6: I just I just wonder if right now it's a

937
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 6: confident issue with hinder Shot. I mean, you go into

938
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Speaker 6: or you come off of last season and you're feeling

939
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 6: mostly good if you're hinder Shot, and then the Cowboys

940
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 6: used the second round pick on Schoolmaker. That's kind of

941
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 6: a blow. That's a big blow. And then they go

942
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 6: and get John Stevens. So now you're like, okay, well

943
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 6: they acquired two young tight end, two rookie tight ends.

944
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 6: And then you go on to training camp and all

945
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Speaker 6: the talks about well, Schoolmaker was plantar fast shots at

946
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 6: that point, but Jake Ferguson, which was the definitive lead

947
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 6: horse in that stable. But it's John Stevens. It's John Stevens. Like,

948
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 6: look at what John Stevens did today. Look at what

949
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 6: he did today. He goes in the preseason game, look

950
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Speaker 6: at what John Stevens did. So yes, unfortunately the Cowboys

951
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 6: lost John Stevens to a town acl but you just

952
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 6: have to wonder at this point, what level of confidence

953
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,720
Speaker 6: does Hindershot have in himself And maybe that's a situation

954
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,320
Speaker 6: where he just kind of kind of needs to revisit

955
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 6: that introspectively to get his head back where it needs

956
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 6: to get because until he solves that, if that is

957
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 6: the problem, then he's going to continue to struggle to

958
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 6: get those reps against somebody like Jake, who's the definitive

959
00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 6: t one as we speak, and Schoolmaker who he's coming

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Speaker 6: that trains coming down the tracks.

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Speaker 5: All right, we appreciate you, guys, Jones.

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Speaker 2: We're back tomorrow.

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Speaker 5: We're gonna get into the Cowboys defense versus the Cardinals offense.

964
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Speaker 5: So then for Patrick Walker, Brian brodus Ambergarcia, I'm Derek Eagleton.

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