1 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: It's a very quiet and slow morning, and I laid 2 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 1: in the bed just a few seconds longer, just to 3 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: see the day the way I wish for it to be, 4 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 1: and plant some seats for some sweet things to happen. 5 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 2: This is finally a show about a Southern Black country 6 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 2: singer and songwriter hailing from Tennessee. Valerie June's music combines gospel, soul, 7 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 2: and country and she has one of those voices that 8 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 2: just stays with you. We met up with her on 9 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 2: one of her many tour stops. 10 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 3: It's a little bit like it could be warmer to me. Maybe, 11 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 3: Thank you. 12 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 4: I got a good seven. 13 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:59,319 Speaker 5: I had black tea with cream, and then I will 14 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 5: jog to the sign to the gym and got a 15 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 5: day passed and I jogged am all outside. 16 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 4: And looked at the trees. They were beautiful colors. 17 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:13,919 Speaker 5: And when I'm doing the physical movement, I'm also doing 18 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 5: like mantras and meditations and mental alignment. So as I jog, 19 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 5: I don't just jog. I jog and breathing in, bring 20 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 5: my awareness to my breath, breathing out, and then start 21 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 5: to call in like words, breathing in, I am now peaceful, 22 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 5: breathing out, I am now peaceful and not just calling 23 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 5: it in and looking at what's around me, but what 24 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:43,039 Speaker 5: does peace look like? And starting to see each word 25 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 5: like what that looks like to me that day, because 26 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 5: it's like tuning myself for the day. 27 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 4: And then all that's just getting me ready for. 28 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 5: Being around people and being able to go on stage 29 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 5: and have enough energy and concentration and focus on light 30 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 5: in times where we might read what's happening in the 31 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 5: world and feel like, how am I supposed to get 32 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 5: up and share some joy or like with somebody today? 33 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 4: I haven't found it. 34 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 5: Myself yet, and that's okay, But I do these practices 35 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 5: so that I could at least come close. 36 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 6: To finding a little bit of its great. 37 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 3: Well that was part of me. 38 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 7: In backstage you're experiencing is one of our members is 39 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:42,079 Speaker 7: very sick. 40 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 3: So she she is not at the chef tonight, Okay, 41 00:02:49,280 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 3: So I said, you just do think great good. 42 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 5: I was raised like in the middle of nowhere, in 43 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 5: the country in Tennessee, and in nature, and I listened 44 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 5: to trees, and I listened to nature and plants and 45 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 5: birds and the. 46 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:33,399 Speaker 4: Pond and the wind. And they give me the practices too. 47 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 4: They talk to me. You know, on this. 48 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 5: Tour, I met the oldest tree in Buffalo, New York. 49 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 5: It's two hundred and forty nine years old. I was 50 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 5: just walking because it was a beautiful day, and we'd 51 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 5: just gotten off the road and I was about to 52 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 5: turn around, but I saw. 53 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 4: This gorgeous tree. 54 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 5: It was huge on the sidewalk and it was lifting 55 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 5: up the sidewalk concrete because it was breaking it up. 56 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 5: I walked down to the tree and I looked up 57 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 5: and there was a plaque on the tree that said 58 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 5: oldest tree in Buffalo. And I was like, oh my god, 59 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 5: I cannot believe I'm finding this tree today, just in 60 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 5: the middle of the city. And I held the tree. 61 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 5: You cannot get your arms all the way around it, 62 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:20,280 Speaker 5: and I like talked to the tree and it was 63 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 5: telling me. Earlier that day, in my meditation in the sauna, 64 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 5: I was invited into this garden. It was called the 65 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 5: Hidden Garden. And I went in there and I sat 66 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:37,359 Speaker 5: and I was surrounded by all these plants, and you 67 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 5: know things in Palestine and Israel, they were just weighing 68 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:46,279 Speaker 5: on me so heavy, and I just was in tears 69 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 5: in there, and I was doing my breath work, and 70 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 5: that's when I was invited by whatever spirit round to 71 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 5: enter the Hidden Garden, and they said, you can enter 72 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 5: this garden whenever you want to. You can stay here 73 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 5: all day if you want to. It just it's this 74 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 5: world inside of us that we have that is very 75 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 5: much like where everything comes from. And so I had 76 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 5: stayed in that garden. As we travel that day, I 77 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 5: needed to ask the tree, is it okay. 78 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 4: For me to like stay in the hidden Garden? For real? 79 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 5: You're older than me, You're like two hundred and forty 80 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 5: nine years old, you see, so much like, is it 81 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 5: okay with all this going on in the world for 82 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:39,799 Speaker 5: me to stay in the Hidden Garden? And the tree said, 83 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 5: you can stay in both worlds. You don't have to 84 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 5: choose one or the other. You can stay with us 85 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 5: as long as you want to. And that doesn't mean 86 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 5: that you're leaving the reality of what's happening in the world, 87 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 5: but you do need to have to lean on us. 88 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 5: The songs come for they come to me while I'm 89 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 5: doing things. So it's important to me for my work 90 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 5: to have other things that I'm doing, not to like 91 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 5: sit down to write a song or a poem. Because 92 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 5: I need it's many. It's much like the ancestors. Unfortunately, 93 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 5: they were enslaved and they worked in the fields, and 94 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 5: while they worked in the fields, they sang, and they 95 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 5: had these songs that came to them while they were working, 96 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 5: and they sang work songs. I do better creating when 97 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 5: I'm watering the plants, when I'm cleaning the toilet, when 98 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 5: I'm washing dishes, when I'm folding clothes, when I'm sleeping. 99 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 5: I do better creating when I'm not intending to create. 100 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 5: If I stop what I'm doing and I sit down 101 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 5: and I really try to create, then it's not like 102 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 5: it's very fri frustrating like it needs to be. That 103 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 5: I'm cooking dinner and I just hear this voice, and 104 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 5: the voice is singing me a song, and I sing 105 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 5: you the song the way the song is sung to me. 106 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 5: So it's like I turn like when you turn on 107 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 5: a radio and you hear a song, That's how it is. 108 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 5: When I hear a song, it's just like there it 109 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 5: is today. And because they come to me, that's why 110 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 5: I do that. 111 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 4: But if they stop coming to me, then I won't 112 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 4: do that anymore. 113 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 5: And I've talked to other creators, like I've talked to 114 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 5: filmmakers or other songwriters even, and different people get them, 115 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 5: get things different ways. Like some filmmakers see the entire 116 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 5: film and all they have to do, and it's hard. 117 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 5: It's just write what they see. But it's hard to 118 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 5: write it because they see it, you know, and it's 119 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 5: in a different realm, and they have to get the words, 120 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 5: the actual words that someone else is gonna understand. But 121 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 5: for me, I hear and I hear the voice. The 122 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 5: voice sings to me, and I say to you what 123 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 5: the voice sings to me. Other songwriters hear like instruments, 124 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 5: and they hear a whole symphony or an orchestra in 125 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 5: their head and they write it down. 126 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 4: I don't hear that so much. 127 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 5: I work in a way where I hear many voices. 128 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 5: They exist in this. 129 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 4: World for me because I have to. 130 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 5: Be doing something like driving or walking to a train 131 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 5: or something physically in this world for them to come. 132 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 5: They don't just come. They come while I'm doing other things. 133 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 5: Like That's why I like to have other things going on, 134 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 5: even in business that I'm like, you know, I'm doing books, 135 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 5: but I'm also doing songs and I'm doing poems, and 136 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 5: you know, I'm just like trying to. 137 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 4: Leave the space open, the creative space. Just let it come. 138 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 5: Don't sit down and try to force something. 139 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 1: You know. 140 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:57,680 Speaker 4: I know, I'm busy. 141 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 5: I'm on the I'm on a conference skylland oh I'm 142 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 5: hearing a voice. Okay. As soon as I get off, 143 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 5: keep that on refeet on the back of my mind. 144 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 5: Since I get off that, that's when I'm gonna start 145 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 5: focusing on it. 146 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 4: And get it down in my journal or wherever it is. 147 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 5: They pretty much come like as they want to be, 148 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 5: and they're very bossy because if I start to try 149 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 5: to make. 150 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 4: Them something else, which I try to. 151 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 5: Do a lot, then they pull back, They pull back 152 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 5: the other way, back. 153 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 4: To where what they want it to be. 154 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:39,560 Speaker 5: And I'm like, okay, okay, I hear you. 155 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 4: They boss me around. Songs know what they want. They 156 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 4: are living. 157 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 5: They have dreams and hopes just like I do or 158 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 5: anybody else does. They have ways they want to be 159 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 5: in the world, and so job of songwriters, the job 160 00:09:56,559 --> 00:10:00,040 Speaker 5: is just to get out the way and let the 161 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 5: song do what it wants to do. 162 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 4: And that's hard because they're. 163 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 5: Kind of like babies and you want to just like, oh, 164 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 5: this is my new song, my new song, and this 165 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 5: is what I'm gonna do with it. But when you 166 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 5: put it out into the world and someone covers it, 167 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 5: then you see just how little control you have over 168 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 5: what the song's gonna do, because everybody sounds different when 169 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 5: they cover a song. Then the other person it's the 170 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 5: same song, but it sounds different. You know, the songs 171 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 5: they are definitely teachers, and I think they. 172 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 4: I think they might. 173 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 5: You know, sometimes I ask myself, like did they ever live? 174 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 5: And maybe they did, I don't know, like or maybe 175 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:47,839 Speaker 5: they've never been on a body, and they live through 176 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 5: people who come and have voices to sing their song 177 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 5: for them. 178 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 4: They say, everybody has a good story in them. 179 00:10:56,640 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 5: And it seems like when a show or a play 180 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 5: or a song captures a person's story, then you're like, yeah. 181 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 4: That's my sound, even though you don't write it. What 182 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 4: makes it yours is because that story. 183 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 5: Is something that's yours too, you can I find yourself 184 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 5: in it and identify yourself in it. So I wonder 185 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 5: where that commonality really comes from. Does it come from 186 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 5: beyond just us? Does it come from beyond even the ancestors? 187 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 5: Is there like something beyond that where all of the 188 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 5: sounds and visions and beautiful things are just swirling waiting. 189 00:11:35,000 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 4: To come into this existence. I'm dark. I just need 190 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 4: to be dark. 191 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 5: I need to bawl my ass off and enter the 192 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:09,680 Speaker 5: Eden garden and staying there crying, you know, all day long, 193 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 5: just like I don't understand why what helped miss. 194 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 4: Somebody come home? 195 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 5: And then you know, work with that energy because always 196 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:25,560 Speaker 5: knowing See, I used to go dark and I would 197 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 5: not come out, But now I know that you can't 198 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 5: have one without the other in this realm. And so 199 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 5: because of that, like any time I go dark now, 200 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 5: I can stay dark for a week, a year, or 201 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 5: however long because I've grieved hard for so. 202 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 4: Long, so many things, and. 203 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:50,199 Speaker 5: You know, whenever that happens now, because I understand darkness, 204 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 5: I'm okay because I know that I can't have that 205 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 5: without some light in there. Because like as I go 206 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 5: through a day, I'm happy, I'm sad, I'm happy, I'm sad. 207 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 4: You know this affects me. That affects me. Oh da 208 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 4: da da, and everyone. 209 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:11,680 Speaker 5: Everyone's like that, and that's why the day is a 210 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 5: practice for me. 211 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 4: My parents would like for things they wanted. 212 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 5: They would give visions, but it wasn't as whimsical as 213 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:31,479 Speaker 5: the language I use for it. It was more concrete 214 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 5: and it was more like, you know, I'm doing what 215 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 5: I gotta do to make what I need to make happen, 216 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 5: and this is the way to make it happen in 217 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 5: the physical world. These are the laws and the rules, 218 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 5: and this is how I have to like maneuver. 219 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 4: And they would go and like say. 220 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 5: For example, if my dad needed a new dump truck 221 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:55,439 Speaker 5: for his construction company, he. 222 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 4: Would go through the ads and he. 223 00:13:57,080 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 5: Would just start clipping out pictures of dump trucks that 224 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 5: he liked, and he would put together like just a 225 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 5: little kind of I would call it like a visionary board. 226 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 5: He didn't have any New Age hippies telling him what 227 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 5: to do on that. 228 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:15,839 Speaker 4: Nor would he ever follow anything like that. 229 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 5: He would probably say that magic and all of that 230 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 5: is focus and like against God, and that I'm going 231 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 5: to hell for believing in it. 232 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 4: But they worked it. They did. 233 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 5: They wanted a house, they had a vision of a 234 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 5: house they wanted. They would drive around and look at 235 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 5: different houses and they would pull like I want this window, 236 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 5: I want that doorway, I want that driveway, and they 237 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 5: would go to an architect and get the plans made 238 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 5: for it, and they would call to them the things 239 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 5: that they wanted, you know. And I saw them work 240 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 5: in magic like that in the sense that the world 241 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 5: would say, through redlining and a lot of limitations upon 242 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 5: southern Black families that they can ain't have, that the 243 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 5: world will tell them who they were. But they always 244 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 5: worked magic, and they decided who they wanted to be 245 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 5: and they made that shit happen. So to me, that's 246 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 5: like the greatest magic. Magic is real. It's hard. Dreams 247 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 5: are hard because you fail, you know, you fail. I 248 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 5: fail every fucking day. 249 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 4: I fail. 250 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 5: But you got to learn how to fail and be 251 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 5: okay with that, you know, like it's a part of 252 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 5: the process. So becoming a successful failure is kind of 253 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 5: part of the nature of dreaming. In some ways, people 254 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 5: could say that doctor King failed because in his time 255 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 5: he you know, even to today, we still are pushing 256 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 5: to see his dream come true across the whole continent 257 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 5: for all people, no matter what you believe to you know, 258 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 5: be judged by the content of your character and not by. 259 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 4: Your race or your beliefs. 260 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 5: Well, it's been a long time since Doctor King was 261 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 5: assassinated in Memphis, and we're still having a hard time 262 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 5: with that one. So dreams take time, and you could 263 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 5: say the man failed, but. 264 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 4: I don't believe that. So it's okay for me to 265 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 4: fail because I know. 266 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 5: I'm not gonna fail. I know I'm not and I 267 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 5: know Doctor King's not. I believe in the dream, you know. 268 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 5: I believe in all goodness. 269 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 4: I believe in dreams. I believe in magic, and I believe. 270 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 5: It's hard though, you know, there's just so many things 271 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 5: to distract from our power and joy, positivity. 272 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 4: Beauty is never taken. We give it, but because we 273 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 4: let it. You know. 274 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 5: I always wonder what could be possible if we didn't, 275 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 5: and what does it look like if we don't. These 276 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 5: are always just questions I have. I have no answers. 277 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 5: I just like guess questions. 278 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 4: I think the biggest thing for me. 279 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 5: Is really connecting with other beings who understand community and 280 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 5: collective dreaming and collective consciousness and the power of imagination, 281 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 5: wonder and. 282 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 4: The currency of it. 283 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:27,440 Speaker 5: Everything is currency, and everything's for sale right now, everything 284 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 5: being a woman, being black, whatever it is, you know, 285 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 5: and if it is for sale, then are we consciously 286 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 5: using it to grow and to heal, or are we 287 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 5: using it to line our own pockets? 288 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:41,640 Speaker 4: You know, what does it look like. 289 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:46,199 Speaker 5: To work with the community of people who are really 290 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:48,160 Speaker 5: interested in true healing? 291 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 3: You know? 292 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 5: I want to meet my tribe like that. 293 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:53,239 Speaker 4: That's what I want to do. 294 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 5: And I don't even have to know them, but I 295 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 5: want to know that they're working in this world in 296 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 5: the same way in their small sphere. We ain't got 297 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 5: to catch up be running buddies, but I need to 298 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 5: know that there are other people out there that. 299 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 1: Are working that type of what we would use the 300 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 1: word magic. 301 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 4: You know, I need to know it. 302 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 5: I know that there's a lot of people out there 303 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 5: causing all kinds of crazy things to happen and stirring 304 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:22,399 Speaker 5: up a lot of things that will create discomfort. I 305 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 5: know that, but I need the reflection of those who are. 306 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:28,160 Speaker 4: Trying to align with a shine. 307 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 5: You know. 308 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 3: JT just texted me the only fifty percent of the 309 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 3: tickets have been scanned so far, and he wants to 310 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 3: push till eight tests. 311 00:18:56,520 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 4: I got twenty minutes to get myself together. Valerie, how 312 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:08,880 Speaker 4: do you decide what you're gonna wear. 313 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 3: The room? 314 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 4: I go in there, and I'm like, what does this 315 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 4: room want me to wear? 316 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,439 Speaker 7: Sometimes I'll want online and see what the room was like, 317 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 7: and then I'll be like, here's a couple of possibilities 318 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 7: for this particular room. 319 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 4: But you know, and then whatever, you know, we are 320 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 4: wearing kind of fits, you know, temperatures. 321 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 5: Last night she was wearing striped sorrow or stripe. 322 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:46,120 Speaker 7: And there's a lot of fabrics tool and lots of neon. 323 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 3: Throw up. That's kind of the thing. 324 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:55,160 Speaker 5: This is a I got this in the kittie department 325 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 5: of Target, and it's extra large and it fit me 326 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 5: and I really like it. 327 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 3: I'm gonna walk out and play a song. Let's go, 328 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 3: We're going. We're walking, okay. 329 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 5: Because of that way that people before ancestors have paid, 330 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 5: now we have like more freedoms in a sense, in 331 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 5: certain parts of the world than we've ever had. So 332 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 5: we have a window of opportunity to make some deep 333 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 5: choices of change. 334 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 4: We actually have a chance. I believe in humanity and 335 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 4: I believe in us. 336 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:28,400 Speaker 1: It's a very quiet night. I took a bath, I 337 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:31,879 Speaker 1: covered myself in lavender roll from head to toe, and 338 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:35,879 Speaker 1: then scrubs with the brush and put a ton of 339 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 1: ebs and salt in the water as tight as I 340 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: could stand and got in there relaxed, and then I 341 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:49,199 Speaker 1: got out and made myself some camerameal tea and I 342 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:55,160 Speaker 1: Shregonda and now I'm laying in the bed and I'm 343 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:58,919 Speaker 1: just taking it easy and I'm about to go to sleep. 344 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 1: It's been a beautiful day.