WEBVTT - Tech News: X Gon' Take It Away From Ya

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to tech Stuff, a production from iHeartRadio. Hey there,

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<v Speaker 1>and welcome to tech Stuff. I'm your host, Jonathan Strickland.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm an executive producer with iHeartRadio. And how the tech

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<v Speaker 1>are you? It's time for the tech News for Thursday,

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<v Speaker 1>July twenty seventh, twenty twenty three. And y'all, I'm looking

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<v Speaker 1>forward to having a week or maybe two when hopefully

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<v Speaker 1>the X news will die down a bit and I

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<v Speaker 1>can skip talking about Elon Musk. But today is not

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<v Speaker 1>that day. In fact, Musk shows up for multiple reasons today.

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<v Speaker 1>So the Wall Street Journal reports that X dot com

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<v Speaker 1>formerly known as Twitter, is allegedly adding a new requirement

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<v Speaker 1>for brand accounts on X. So companies that have maintained

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<v Speaker 1>an account on X will have to meet a new requirement,

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<v Speaker 1>and that is to spend a minimum of one thousand

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<v Speaker 1>dollars per month on advertising or else they'll lose their

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<v Speaker 1>verification status. Once again, we see that verification is not

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<v Speaker 1>verification on X. Or maybe you could argue it does

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<v Speaker 1>verify you. It verifies that you paid for a checkmark. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I will note there are exceptions. There are some people

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<v Speaker 1>who had truly massive followings on Twitter, and they were

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<v Speaker 1>gifted their checkmarks back after initially having them stripped away,

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<v Speaker 1>and most of those accounts will very quickly tell you,

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<v Speaker 1>in no uncertain language that they did not pay to

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<v Speaker 1>get the check mark back anyway. According to Musk, this

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<v Speaker 1>is really about protecting those brands, that the one thousand

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<v Speaker 1>dollars per month fee is high enough to prevent rap

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<v Speaker 1>scallions from creating accounts posing as a brand, and so

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<v Speaker 1>it cuts down on scammers who weren't really a thing

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<v Speaker 1>before you could just pay for a check mark anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>Skeptics argue that Musk's company is scrambling for revenue, having

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<v Speaker 1>lost a significant amount, like fifty percent of the advertising

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<v Speaker 1>dollars that were coming into the company over the last

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<v Speaker 1>several months, and that this play is similar to making

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<v Speaker 1>users pay a subscription fee for that check mark, plus

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<v Speaker 1>you know, some other features that come with it, and

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<v Speaker 1>that it's really just a way to slow down losses.

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<v Speaker 1>It'll be interesting to see which brands continue to stick

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<v Speaker 1>around on X. Some of them are big enough where

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<v Speaker 1>one thousand dollars a month isn't really that big of

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<v Speaker 1>a commitment, but others are smaller and that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a significant investment, and I think a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>brand managers are going to start asking themselves if there's

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<v Speaker 1>even enough value associated with being on X to go

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<v Speaker 1>to the trouble or if they should just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>ditch and go to threads or some other platform instead

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<v Speaker 1>speaking of X. You won't be speaking of X in Indonesia,

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<v Speaker 1>or at least you wouldn't have been. Earlier this week,

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<v Speaker 1>Al Jazeera reported that on Tuesday, Indonesia more or less

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<v Speaker 1>accidentally blocked Musk's platform because of the domain name x

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<v Speaker 1>dot com because in Indonesia they associated that domain with

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<v Speaker 1>sites that would host adult material and Indonesia has strict

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<v Speaker 1>laws against pornography. The Ministry of Communication and Informatics reached

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<v Speaker 1>out to x dot com to confirm that it is

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<v Speaker 1>in fact meant solely to host Twitter and not a

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<v Speaker 1>platform for pornographic material. But this meant that twenty four

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<v Speaker 1>million people living in Indonesia were unable to access x

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<v Speaker 1>slash Twitter that day unless they were using like a

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<v Speaker 1>VPN or something I guess. Not long ago, I talked

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<v Speaker 1>about how the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration or NHTSA

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<v Speaker 1>here in the United States is investigating a car crash

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<v Speaker 1>that happened back in twenty eighteen actually, and one of

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<v Speaker 1>the cars involved in that was a Tesla vehicle that

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<v Speaker 1>allegedly was in advanced driver assist mode autopilot or full

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<v Speaker 1>self driving mode in other words. Now, according to CNBC,

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<v Speaker 1>California's Attorney General's Office has launched its investigation into Tesla,

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<v Speaker 1>and this investigation is looking into both the issue of

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<v Speaker 1>safety with Tesla's autopilot system, as well as seeking comment

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<v Speaker 1>from Tesla owners about whether or not they feel they

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<v Speaker 1>were the target of false advertising when it came to

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<v Speaker 1>Tesla's driver assist features. This might also include Tesla customers

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<v Speaker 1>who paid into the full self driving system, which is

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<v Speaker 1>still an advanced driver assist feature. It's not, as the

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<v Speaker 1>name seems to suggest, an actually fully autonomous method of

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<v Speaker 1>operating your vehicle. So this is still very early on

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<v Speaker 1>in the Attorney General's office investigation into Tesla. It's early

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<v Speaker 1>enough that CNBC wasn't able to get any confirmation from

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<v Speaker 1>the the office that it's actually engaged in such an investigation.

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<v Speaker 1>They did, however, talk with people who say they had

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<v Speaker 1>been in contact with the Attorney General's Office and answered

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<v Speaker 1>some questions about their experience with Tesla. It is too

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<v Speaker 1>early to assume any kind of outcome here or what

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<v Speaker 1>the office might demand of Tesla. Shouldn't find evidence of

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<v Speaker 1>false advertising or other issues. So it's just the earliest

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<v Speaker 1>days of this investigation and it may end up not

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<v Speaker 1>turning into anything. We'll just have to wait and see.

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<v Speaker 1>In certain sections of the Chinese city Chingdu, there are

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<v Speaker 1>no Tesla's allowed right now now. The reason for this

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<v Speaker 1>is that the city is hosting the World University Games

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<v Speaker 1>this week, and Chinese President Shi Jinping will visit the

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<v Speaker 1>city as part of the opening celebration, which is tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>The concern is that Tesla vehicles, which rely on optical

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<v Speaker 1>camera systems for the purposes of things like that collision detection,

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<v Speaker 1>could end up operating as a surveillance threat, so police

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<v Speaker 1>have been told to turn away drivers in Tesla's if

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<v Speaker 1>they should approach certain venues now. Elon Musk in the

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<v Speaker 1>past has said that Tesla obeys whatever local data laws

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<v Speaker 1>are in place in all the regions where Tesla's are

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<v Speaker 1>on the roads, but it sounds like Chinese authorities don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to take any chances, and have subsequently demanded that

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<v Speaker 1>cameras on wheels not be allowed near the places Shi

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<v Speaker 1>Jenping will visit. I suspect we won't see any official

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<v Speaker 1>outcry from Tesla the company because the Chinese market is

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<v Speaker 1>a critical one for Tesla, so it would shock me

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<v Speaker 1>if the company made any noise about this. What do

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<v Speaker 1>the following companies have in common? BMW, Honda, General Motors, Yundi, Mercedes, Benz,

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<v Speaker 1>Kia and Stalantis. That last one might not sound familiar

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<v Speaker 1>to you, but they own a whole bunch of car companies.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you in fact said, oh, those are all automakers,

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<v Speaker 1>you get partial credit. But beyond that, if you had said,

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<v Speaker 1>those are seven companies that are aiming to build out

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<v Speaker 1>an EV charging network to rival that of Tesla's in

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<v Speaker 1>North America, well then you get full marks. Because these companies,

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<v Speaker 1>which you could argue, really drag their collective feet. While

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<v Speaker 1>Elon Musk was directing Tesla to build out supercharger stations

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<v Speaker 1>all over the place, are now trying to push back

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<v Speaker 1>against Tesla's dominance in the space. So right now, Tesla

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<v Speaker 1>has approximately twenty two thousand supercharger stalls in North America.

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<v Speaker 1>This is according to Business Insider, that puts them by

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<v Speaker 1>far in the lead for EV charging stations. They have

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<v Speaker 1>completely eclipsed everyone else. But this coalition of automakers hopes

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<v Speaker 1>to build out more than thirty thousand charging stations. And

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<v Speaker 1>if you're wondering who currently holds number two in North

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<v Speaker 1>America for EV charging stations, that would actually be Volkswagen

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<v Speaker 1>backed company Electrify America. But they just have three, five

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<v Speaker 1>and ninety two. That is a far cry behind the

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<v Speaker 1>twenty two thousand now. Obviously, the need for charging stations

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<v Speaker 1>are one of the big reasons why EV adoption is

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<v Speaker 1>facing an uphill battle. Right, you have to have confidence

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<v Speaker 1>among consumers that they can actually recharge their cars and

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<v Speaker 1>not get stranded somewhere. And so this is a real need.

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<v Speaker 1>But you might ask, well, why are automakers rushing forward now?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, this need has existed ever since people started

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about electric vehicles again. Well, there are a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of big reasons why it's happening now. One is

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<v Speaker 1>that evs are going to become increasingly common in North

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<v Speaker 1>America moving forward because a lot of automakers are moving

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<v Speaker 1>away from internal combustion engine vehicles. There's this global migration

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<v Speaker 1>away from those and for the purposes of manufacturing it

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<v Speaker 1>makes sense, and also, I mean it's cheaper to manufacture

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<v Speaker 1>evs than it is internal combustion engine vehicles. They are

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<v Speaker 1>simpler in design. Another reason is that the automakers would

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<v Speaker 1>rather be able to create their own charging standard than

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<v Speaker 1>to allow Tesla to dictate that standard, because if Tesla's

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<v Speaker 1>technology becomes the universal charging technology, that would mean automakers

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<v Speaker 1>would have to pay a license fee to Tesla in

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<v Speaker 1>order to make use of that tech, and that would

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<v Speaker 1>be great news for Tesla to rake in money for

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<v Speaker 1>licensing out its technology to other companies, but generally speaking,

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<v Speaker 1>companies would rather not have to do that if they

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<v Speaker 1>can find a workaround. So it sounds like the group

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<v Speaker 1>wants to build out charging stations that lift some of

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<v Speaker 1>the ideas that Tesla incorporates in its technology. For example,

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<v Speaker 1>to pay for charging, you would just plug in your vehicle,

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<v Speaker 1>and when you do that, the vehicle communicates with the

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<v Speaker 1>charging station, identifies itself, Your account automatically gets deducted whatever

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<v Speaker 1>the charge was for the juicing up your vehicle, and

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<v Speaker 1>you go on your way. You don't have to take

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<v Speaker 1>out a credit card or anything. That's a great feature

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<v Speaker 1>and it's one that I think these automakers are looking

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<v Speaker 1>to incorporate in their own solutions, so you could say

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<v Speaker 1>that they're going to be copying a lot of Tesla's features,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe not in operation, but in effect. My guess is

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<v Speaker 1>that's what we're going to see. Now, we're not done

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<v Speaker 1>with Tesla just yet. Reuter's reports that the company overpromised

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<v Speaker 1>how far its vehicles could drive on a single charge, and,

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<v Speaker 1>in an effort to avoid festen up to that issue,

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<v Speaker 1>would cancel appointments of drivers who were concerned that their

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<v Speaker 1>car wasn't performing up to standard. So, as a driver,

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<v Speaker 1>you would get behind the wheel of your Tesla, started up,

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<v Speaker 1>and you would see an estimate of how far you

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<v Speaker 1>could go on the current battery charge of your vehicle.

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<v Speaker 1>No pun intended. The drivers saw that their actual driving

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<v Speaker 1>range was lower than what the estimate was, and then

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<v Speaker 1>it was frequently, i mean like always lower. So naturally

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<v Speaker 1>some of the drivers sought an appointment with a Tesla

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<v Speaker 1>service center to see what was up, just assuming, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>something is wrong with my vehicle, because I'm never able

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<v Speaker 1>to achieve the driving range that is estimated when I

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<v Speaker 1>get in my vehicle. So, according to Reuter's, Tesla had

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<v Speaker 1>a team in place dedicated to canceling those types of

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<v Speaker 1>service appointments, because ultimately the only thing that was going

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<v Speaker 1>wrong was that the algorithm estimating the driving range was

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<v Speaker 1>way too optimistic. I suppose they could have tried to

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<v Speaker 1>fix the algorithm, but then the driver would likely notice

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<v Speaker 1>that their car now was estimating lower ranges than before,

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<v Speaker 1>and that if you're a driver, you would say, well,

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<v Speaker 1>they fixed the wrong dang part of the car. They

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<v Speaker 1>should have made the car be able to do what

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<v Speaker 1>it said it could do, not change what it said

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<v Speaker 1>it could do to something less Reuters couldn't find information

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<v Speaker 1>on when, or what, how or how all that algorithm

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<v Speaker 1>could have changed over the years, but Business Insider offered

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<v Speaker 1>up the encouragement that Tesla vehicle driving performance has actually

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<v Speaker 1>improved significantly over the years, so chances are you don't

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<v Speaker 1>encounter the same issue now. But doesn't change the fact that,

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<v Speaker 1>if this investigation is accurate, Tesla arguably engaged in false

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<v Speaker 1>advertising for years. Okay, we've got a lot more news

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<v Speaker 1>stories to go. It was a busy week. We're going

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<v Speaker 1>to take a quick break. We'll be right back. We're back.

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<v Speaker 1>Bloomberg reports that the US Federal Trade Commission is preparing

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<v Speaker 1>an enormous antitrust lawsuit against Amazon, and that the FTC

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<v Speaker 1>may even seek to break Amazon up a bit in

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<v Speaker 1>a corporate restructuring, and Amazon would have to spin off

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<v Speaker 1>parts of its business that would be huge. It's something

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<v Speaker 1>that we really haven't seen in the tech sector for decades.

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<v Speaker 1>Like the last time I remember them attempting to do

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<v Speaker 1>this was with Microsoft in the nineties, and ultimately that

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<v Speaker 1>decision was reversed, but initially that was going to happen

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<v Speaker 1>to Microsoft. So at the heart of the matter with

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<v Speaker 1>this particular case is Amazon's policies that appear to reward

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<v Speaker 1>merchants who rely on Amazon tools and then restrict merchants

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<v Speaker 1>who do not. That can mean that a merchant that

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<v Speaker 1>plays ball with Amazon will find itself popping up in

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<v Speaker 1>relevant searches more often or appearing as a suggested product.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, when you buy something or you've got something

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<v Speaker 1>in your cart and you see a message that says

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<v Speaker 1>people who bought this also bought this other kind of

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that kind of thing, And merchants who do not

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<v Speaker 1>use Amazon tools and services that are optional will find

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<v Speaker 1>that their products get buried deep in search results. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what the allegation is, and customers are not likely to

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<v Speaker 1>see the results at all, so they don't buy those products,

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<v Speaker 1>and the merchants who either can't afford or don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to use Amazon services end up being punished as a result.

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<v Speaker 1>So the FTC says, one, this is happening, and two

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<v Speaker 1>this practice is clearly anti competitive because Amazon owns the marketplace,

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<v Speaker 1>it dictates the terms, It awards advantages to people who

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<v Speaker 1>pay those optional Amazon services, and denies those advantages to

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<v Speaker 1>merchants who do not. I will keep an eye on this.

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<v Speaker 1>Bloomberg reports that the FTC's plan is to bring this

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<v Speaker 1>litigation against Amazon in August, and if that happens, it

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<v Speaker 1>might well warrant a full Tech Stuff episode to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of talk about this and previous antitrust suits that were

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<v Speaker 1>brought against tech companies, and maybe even talk about why

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<v Speaker 1>there was a very long gap between the efforts in

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<v Speaker 1>the nineties and what we're seeing play out today. One

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<v Speaker 1>story I did not cover on Tuesday, honestly because I

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<v Speaker 1>just needed more time to read up on it to

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<v Speaker 1>get it my head wrapped around it was that Google

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<v Speaker 1>has introduced a new specification called the Web Environment Integrity

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<v Speaker 1>spec so this specification would create an application programming interface

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<v Speaker 1>or API. The purpose of this API is that websites

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<v Speaker 1>could enable it to inform them if the browser and

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<v Speaker 1>the device running the browser is trusted by a third

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<v Speaker 1>party that would be called the a tester. So in

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<v Speaker 1>other words, the website could say, hey, is this person

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<v Speaker 1>or thing that's visiting my site? Is that trustworthy or not?

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<v Speaker 1>And this third party would say either yes or no.

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<v Speaker 1>The idea here is this would help websites differentiate real traffic,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like traffic coming from actual human beings on

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<v Speaker 1>actual consumer devices or whatever, or if the traffic was

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<v Speaker 1>coming through some automated system like a bot. That One

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<v Speaker 1>of the use cases they mentioned would be to determine

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<v Speaker 1>if an interaction with an AD was one that was

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<v Speaker 1>taken by a real world, hure human being or if

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<v Speaker 1>someone just program bots to do it and artificially run

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<v Speaker 1>up the ads click through. But critics are calling this

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<v Speaker 1>approach akin to putting DRM on the web. DRM, in

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<v Speaker 1>case you're not familiar, stands for digital Rights management. If

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<v Speaker 1>you've got any sort of negative associations with that term,

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<v Speaker 1>it is totally understandable. DRM not always but frequently makes

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<v Speaker 1>it harder for legitimate consumers to actually enjoy the products

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<v Speaker 1>they legitimately bought, and it only stands as a minor

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<v Speaker 1>inconvenience to people who are determined to steal stuff because

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<v Speaker 1>invariably they find a way to break the erm. So,

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<v Speaker 1>in other words, most of the time, maybe just much

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<v Speaker 1>of the time, let's be kind, much of the time,

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<v Speaker 1>it fails to solve the problem it was designed to stop,

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<v Speaker 1>i e. Piracy And meanwhile, it makes the normal experience

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<v Speaker 1>worse for everyone who's playing by the rules, which is

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<v Speaker 1>doubly bad, right, and yet it's still a thing anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>A big concern about Google's approach is that this could

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<v Speaker 1>mean and a tester, the third party that tells you

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<v Speaker 1>whether or not something is trustworthy or not, could arbitrarily

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<v Speaker 1>decide that a particular browser or platform is untrustworthy and

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<v Speaker 1>just blacklist it. And if that a tester is like Google,

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<v Speaker 1>because Google suggested that Google Play would serve as the

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<v Speaker 1>a tester for Android platforms, well that means Google effectively

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<v Speaker 1>becomes a gatekeeper. And if you are a developer who

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<v Speaker 1>has created an alternative browser, it may mean that you

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<v Speaker 1>no longer have a business because no one can use

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<v Speaker 1>your tool to access anything, at least not on an

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<v Speaker 1>Android device because the third party a tester, has determined

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<v Speaker 1>that your tool is not trustworthy. So if Google decides

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<v Speaker 1>a particular browser is untrust trustworthy, can effectively block them

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<v Speaker 1>from accessing the web. That seems more than a little

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<v Speaker 1>like overreach. If you ask me now, Similarly, you would

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<v Speaker 1>assume that Google would name like Microsoft to be the

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<v Speaker 1>gatekeeper or the a tester for Windows based machines, and

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<v Speaker 1>Apple would undoubtedly be the gatekeeper for iOS and macOS devices.

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<v Speaker 1>Considering the conversation these days often circles around the problem

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<v Speaker 1>of a centralized web that is the realm of just

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<v Speaker 1>a few powerful tech companies, this seems like a supremely

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<v Speaker 1>bad move. It's like a direct strike against the open web.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it is likely that we will eventually see

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<v Speaker 1>regulators oppose this approach. I think that's most likely to

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<v Speaker 1>happen first in places like the EU the European Union,

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<v Speaker 1>because they are very quick to spot and oppose things

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<v Speaker 1>that are anti competitive or monopolistic. Switching gears, Meta has

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<v Speaker 1>had a great week financially. The company showed that it

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<v Speaker 1>had increased ad engagement and sales figures dramatically beating industry estimates,

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<v Speaker 1>and they leaned heavily on AI tools to do so.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is like a double win for Meta, right

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<v Speaker 1>one they're able to show how well their business worked,

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<v Speaker 1>and two they were able to demonstrate the effectiveness of

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<v Speaker 1>AI in this particular application. The improved performance led to

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<v Speaker 1>a surge in the company's stock price, and just like that,

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<v Speaker 1>Meta saw sixty billion dollars tagged on top of its

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<v Speaker 1>market value. World's turn on such things. Meta also showed

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<v Speaker 1>that it had improved ad engagement and sales on its

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<v Speaker 1>Reels product within Instagram, which of course is another big deal,

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<v Speaker 1>and investors are very much encouraged and advertisers are flocking

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<v Speaker 1>to Meta. I meanwhile, you know x dot Com over

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<v Speaker 1>there is saying brands need to cough up a grand

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<v Speaker 1>a month to stay checked on the site. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>night and day these companies. Anyway, while Meta the company

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<v Speaker 1>is doing great, I think it is really important for

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<v Speaker 1>users to remember that this increase in performance ultimately comes

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<v Speaker 1>back to the fact that Meta is very good at

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<v Speaker 1>collecting your data. It's very good at sussing out what

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<v Speaker 1>you like and what you want and then serving that

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<v Speaker 1>up to you. By sharing the information with advertisers. Just

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<v Speaker 1>something to always keep in mind, you know, because we

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<v Speaker 1>are the product here. So while if you're an investor

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<v Speaker 1>in Meta, you're probably happy to hear that the company

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<v Speaker 1>had such a great turnout this week, but if you're

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<v Speaker 1>a user, you need to remember, like there's a there's

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<v Speaker 1>a dark side to all of this. Here's another story

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<v Speaker 1>about anti competitiveness. This time we've got three big tech

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<v Speaker 1>companies that are banding together to compete against two other

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<v Speaker 1>big tech companies. In fact, the story involves the big

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<v Speaker 1>five tech companies. It involves Google and Apple, who are

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<v Speaker 1>kind of in the dominant positions on one side, and

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<v Speaker 1>the combined might of Meta, Microsoft and Amazon on the other.

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<v Speaker 1>And what is the battleground? Map apps digital maps, So

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<v Speaker 1>currently on Apple and Google dominate the digital map space,

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<v Speaker 1>right Like, if you're using an iOS device, chances are

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<v Speaker 1>you're probably using Apple Maps. If you're on Android, you're

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<v Speaker 1>probably using Google Maps. If you're on Apple and you're

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<v Speaker 1>fed up with Apple Maps, you may be using Google Maps.

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<v Speaker 1>Although that's unfair. Apple Maps was very bad when it

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<v Speaker 1>first launched, but they fix that and in some cases,

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<v Speaker 1>Apple Maps gives much better directions than Google Maps. I've

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<v Speaker 1>had that happen a couple of times where my partner

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<v Speaker 1>their map would end up bringing us to a location

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<v Speaker 1>much more efficiently than my Android Google Maps navigation would

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<v Speaker 1>take us. So it goes both ways anyway. App developers

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<v Speaker 1>that want map functionality in their apps frequently they have

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<v Speaker 1>to pay one or the other, or maybe even both

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<v Speaker 1>Google and Apple to access their map data to help

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<v Speaker 1>populate the app that the developer is creating. Meanwhile, these

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<v Speaker 1>other three big companies are saying, why can't we get

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<v Speaker 1>some of the money. So these three companies in partnership

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<v Speaker 1>with tom Tom are releasing data that app developers can

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<v Speaker 1>use to build out their own map functions, and that

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<v Speaker 1>way they could bypass the need to pay Google or

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<v Speaker 1>Apple for that information. Now, these groups are not building

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<v Speaker 1>their own map app. We're not getting a third contender

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<v Speaker 1>against Google and Apple Maps. Instead, what they're doing is

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<v Speaker 1>they're giving developers the opportunity to access this mountain of

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<v Speaker 1>underlying data, and it's up to the developers to build

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<v Speaker 1>the map software that they want and the experience they

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<v Speaker 1>have in mind. Personally, I think it's a good move.

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<v Speaker 1>Competition is important, Competition inspires innovation. Competition can keep prices lower.

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<v Speaker 1>It'll be interesting to see if this initiative actually challenges

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<v Speaker 1>the existing duopoly in the digital map space. However, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I've got, oh my gosh, so many more stories. We're

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<v Speaker 1>going to do one more before we do a break.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm calling an audible y'all, cause gosh, there's so many stories.

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<v Speaker 1>So in Hollywood, strikes continue with the Writer's Guild of

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<v Speaker 1>America and sag AFTRA unions. One of the many issues

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<v Speaker 1>that these two unions are facing in Hollywood centers around

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<v Speaker 1>artificial intelligence and its place in Hollywood and if it

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<v Speaker 1>even should have a place. If it does, where should

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<v Speaker 1>the restrictions be. Meanwhile, Netflix pulled focus when Netflix's search

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<v Speaker 1>for an AI product manager became public knowledge. So, according

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<v Speaker 1>to Netflix's you Know job opening, they're offering up to

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<v Speaker 1>nine hundred thousand dollars per year as a salary for

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<v Speaker 1>a suitably qualified person to be an AI product manager. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 1>sag AFTRA argues that nearly ninety percent of working actors

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<v Speaker 1>earn less than two twenty six thousand dollars a year.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, that's the threshold an actor must meet

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<v Speaker 1>if they are to receive medical benefits from the union, right,

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<v Speaker 1>they have to get twenty six thousand dollars from acting. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's twenty six four hundred and seventy. You

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<v Speaker 1>have to make at least that much just from acting

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<v Speaker 1>in order to qualify for medical benefits. So you might

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<v Speaker 1>supplement your acting with other jobs and you might make

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<v Speaker 1>more than twenty six thousand, but the union only counts

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<v Speaker 1>it if it is derived from your work as an actor.

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<v Speaker 1>So the argument here is that the vast majority of

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<v Speaker 1>actors are being exploited. And meanwhile, here's Netflix putting out

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<v Speaker 1>an ad for an AI expert who will be making

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<v Speaker 1>nearly a million dollars a year. So the narrative emerging

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<v Speaker 1>from this labor strike has largely been on the side

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<v Speaker 1>of writers and actors, as they point out that there's

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<v Speaker 1>not actually a shortage of money in Hollywood. Rather, studios

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<v Speaker 1>are attempting to withhold as much money for things like

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<v Speaker 1>executive compensation and for shareholder return, while the people who

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<v Speaker 1>are responsible for actually making the stuff that Hollywood profits

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<v Speaker 1>off of are left out of the conversation, or worse,

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<v Speaker 1>their work is actively being threatened by a predatory use

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<v Speaker 1>of artificial intelligence. Okay, one more, the US Securities and

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<v Speaker 1>Exchange Commission, or SEC, has some new rules that are

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<v Speaker 1>bound to hit publicly traded companies hard. These rules state

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<v Speaker 1>that if a company detects a cybersecurity breach that could

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<v Speaker 1>affect the company's bottom line, it has four days to

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<v Speaker 1>publicly disclose that breach. Now, you're probably aware that many

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<v Speaker 1>times a company will detect a breach, but then keep

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<v Speaker 1>that information under wraps for weeks or sometimes months, or

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<v Speaker 1>maybe even up to a year, as people within the

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<v Speaker 1>company determine how best to respond and to try and

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<v Speaker 1>limit the amount of damage that could be done to

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<v Speaker 1>the company by revealing it. The SEC has taken a

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<v Speaker 1>stance that this approach hurts investors. That's the primary concern

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<v Speaker 1>for the SEC. I mean, it also hurts consumers. But

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<v Speaker 1>they're saying no, investors deserve to know this because that

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<v Speaker 1>has a direct effect on their investment. So the only

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<v Speaker 1>exceptions the SEC will consider to this four day rule

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<v Speaker 1>are cases where revealing the breach could impact national security

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<v Speaker 1>or public safety, or if a company could successfully argue

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<v Speaker 1>that the breach did not affect the company's bottom line.

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<v Speaker 1>And to be clear that for daytimer only starts ticking

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<v Speaker 1>once a company has made that determination. So if a

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<v Speaker 1>company you know, takes it's real sweet time to determine

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<v Speaker 1>if that breach actually is going to have a bottom

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<v Speaker 1>line effect. That four days doesn't start until you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the conclusion is arrived at, which seems like it's a

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<v Speaker 1>possible loophole to me. But anyway, if it's a publicly

0:27:05.119 --> 0:27:08.760
<v Speaker 1>traded company, it is obligated to come forward within four days. Obviously,

0:27:08.760 --> 0:27:11.800
<v Speaker 1>private companies are exempt from this. They have their own

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<v Speaker 1>private shareholders, they are not beholden to these rules. The

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<v Speaker 1>adoption of these rules came down to a three to

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<v Speaker 1>two vote. The SEC is made up of five people

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<v Speaker 1>on the board, and it split right down party lines.

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<v Speaker 1>You had three Democratic appointees and two Republican appointees. The

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<v Speaker 1>three Democrats voted in favor of the two Republicans voted against.

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<v Speaker 1>And there are arguments both for and against these rules,

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe one day I'll do a full episode to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about those. It does get more involved and complicated

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<v Speaker 1>than we can chat about here. Okay, I still have

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<v Speaker 1>several news stories to get through, so let's take another

0:27:51.920 --> 0:27:53.919
<v Speaker 1>break and then we'll get back and get through this

0:27:54.080 --> 0:28:08.360
<v Speaker 1>epic news episode. We're back so Reuter's reports that Google's

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<v Speaker 1>sister company, Weimo, the autonomous vehicle company, has parked to

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<v Speaker 1>use a pun and at least temporarily its efforts to

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<v Speaker 1>create self driving trucking technology. Instead, Weimo will focus on

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<v Speaker 1>ride haaling services, you know, essentially an alternative to things

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<v Speaker 1>like Uber and Lyft. I'm honestly really surprised by this.

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<v Speaker 1>I had assumed that the trucking application would be the

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<v Speaker 1>one more likely to steal focus. I mean, it seems

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<v Speaker 1>like that would be a more achievable goal to me.

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<v Speaker 1>But perhaps I'm just way off base here. The company

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<v Speaker 1>is forming a strategic partnership with Diamler Truck North America,

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<v Speaker 1>so Diamler's going to take over the trucking operations aspect.

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<v Speaker 1>Weimo will attempt to dominate the autonomous ride hailing services

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<v Speaker 1>industry in cities like San Francisco and Los Angeles out

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<v Speaker 1>in California, as well as Phoenix in Arizona. Some scientists

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<v Speaker 1>at the Quantum Energy Research Center in South Korea, as

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<v Speaker 1>well as a researcher at the College of William and

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<v Speaker 1>Mary in Virginia in the United States, have claimed that

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<v Speaker 1>they made a monumental breakthrough which is putting it lightly.

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<v Speaker 1>They say they've created a material that can achieve super

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<v Speaker 1>conductivity at room temperatures and room pressure air pressure. So

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<v Speaker 1>let's break this down. So you can pass electricity through

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<v Speaker 1>an electrical conductor. Right, conductors can allow electricity to pass

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<v Speaker 1>through them, whereas an insulator resists electricity passing through it.

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<v Speaker 1>But under most circumstances, the amount of electricity you put

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<v Speaker 1>into a conductor is going to be more than the

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<v Speaker 1>amount of electricity you'll measure at the other end of

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<v Speaker 1>the conductor. You're going to lose some energy in the

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<v Speaker 1>process because some of the electricity gets lost in the

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<v Speaker 1>form of heat. This is why you have to have

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<v Speaker 1>all those cooling systems and things like super powerful gaming computers,

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<v Speaker 1>because they end up losing a lot of energy in

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<v Speaker 1>the form of heat, and you got to dissipate that heat.

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<v Speaker 1>Because of the wise things go wrong, but it ultimately

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<v Speaker 1>means you have an inefficiency in your system due to

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<v Speaker 1>this loss of energy in the form of heat. But

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<v Speaker 1>a superconductor is a material that, under the right conditions,

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<v Speaker 1>can conduct electricity with zero loss. There's no electrical resistance,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no loss in energy. You get the same electricity

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<v Speaker 1>coming out as you got putting into it. But to

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<v Speaker 1>achieve this, typically you need to do stuff like super

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<v Speaker 1>cool the conductor down to a wicked cold temperature, like

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<v Speaker 1>getting close to absolute zero. That's how cold you need

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<v Speaker 1>to get. And or you may need to use really

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<v Speaker 1>incredible pressure in an effort to create a super conductive material.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is difficult, it is dangerous, it is expensive.

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<v Speaker 1>But if someone were to create a material that was

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<v Speaker 1>a perfect conductor at room temperature and room pressure, that

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<v Speaker 1>would be beyond astonishing. That is what this team is

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<v Speaker 1>claiming to have done. They say they've made this new material.

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<v Speaker 1>They took stuff like lead and sulfur and phosphorus and oxygen,

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<v Speaker 1>and they baked it all together at super high temperatures

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<v Speaker 1>and ended up with this dark gray solid material that

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<v Speaker 1>they claim can perform as a superconductor at temperatures as

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<v Speaker 1>high as eighty six degrees fahrenheit or thirty celsius, which

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<v Speaker 1>is unthinkable. Now their work has yet to be accepted

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<v Speaker 1>by a peer reviewed journal. There are plenty of scientists

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<v Speaker 1>who are skeptical of these results for very valid reasons.

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<v Speaker 1>There have been previous reports of similar achievements from others,

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<v Speaker 1>and it always has turned out to have been a

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<v Speaker 1>mistake or a hoax, and not something that anyone else

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<v Speaker 1>could replace Kate. So we need to wait for independent

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<v Speaker 1>teams to either verify or refute these results, to essentially

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<v Speaker 1>try and do the exact same thing this team says

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<v Speaker 1>they did and see if they get the same results

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<v Speaker 1>before we can draw any kind of scientific conclusion about this.

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<v Speaker 1>It is way too early to get excited about this possibility.

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<v Speaker 1>The team will have a very high threshold of proof

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<v Speaker 1>they have to meet before the scientific community will accept this.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's probably not true because it is just it's

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<v Speaker 1>such a huge leap. But if it were true, it

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<v Speaker 1>would lead to massive advancements and lots of areas of

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<v Speaker 1>engineering and science. So I am very skeptical, but man,

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<v Speaker 1>I hope it's true. Like I don't think it is,

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<v Speaker 1>but I hope it is, because that again would mean

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<v Speaker 1>that you could do things like create superconductors to power

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<v Speaker 1>things like particle accelerators without the need for these massive

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<v Speaker 1>cooling systems to keep all the powerful magnets you need

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<v Speaker 1>at the correct temperature in order to operate the particle accelerator.

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<v Speaker 1>That suddenly makes particle accelerators cheaper to build, which means

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<v Speaker 1>you can make more powerful ones and learn way more

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<v Speaker 1>about the universe. Like you see how it could be

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<v Speaker 1>incredible if it is true. I just doubt it is.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope I'm wrong. I hope other independent teams end

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<v Speaker 1>up replicating those responses or results, and that we see

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<v Speaker 1>that the research team was right on the money. That

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<v Speaker 1>would be amazing. Now I've said this many times on

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<v Speaker 1>this show, but space is hard. Also, it's trying to

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<v Speaker 1>kill you. So it should come as little surprised that Boeing,

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<v Speaker 1>which has been working on the Starliner spacecraft, which is

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<v Speaker 1>a capsule size spacecraft, smaller than the Orion but bigger

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<v Speaker 1>than the Apollo capsule of the old Space Race days,

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<v Speaker 1>Boeing has lost a lot of money developing the star

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<v Speaker 1>Liner because of lots of unforeseen problems they've run intwo

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<v Speaker 1>so far on this project. Like we're talking one point

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<v Speaker 1>one billion dollars worth of losses now, in case you

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<v Speaker 1>weren't familiar, Boeing's star Liner is one of two space

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<v Speaker 1>capsules the NASA had tapped as being a way to

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<v Speaker 1>transport astronauts to and from the space station, as well

0:34:31.320 --> 0:34:35.239
<v Speaker 1>as other platforms that would be in lowerth orbit. So

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<v Speaker 1>the two were Boeing's Starliner, which has yet to become

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<v Speaker 1>a thing, and SpaceX's Dragon two capsule. So Boeing had

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<v Speaker 1>to scrap a test launch recently. It was supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>be a launched this month with two astronauts aboard a

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<v Speaker 1>Starliner capsule, but Boeing discovered that one of the components

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<v Speaker 1>in the capsule is flammable, which is bad, and in

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<v Speaker 1>that case it's a kind of tape that can be

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<v Speaker 1>removed from the capsule, but it was a potential fire hazard,

0:35:10.600 --> 0:35:12.680
<v Speaker 1>So that was one reason why it had to be scrapped.

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<v Speaker 1>And the other is that they found that the links

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<v Speaker 1>that connect the capsule's parachute to the capsule itself do

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<v Speaker 1>not meet NASA's safety standards. These seem like valid reasons

0:35:23.880 --> 0:35:26.680
<v Speaker 1>to cancel a test flight. The fact that NASA was

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<v Speaker 1>getting this close to a launch date before Boeing revealed

0:35:31.440 --> 0:35:34.640
<v Speaker 1>these problems has raised some red flags. So now the

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<v Speaker 1>Space Agency is taking a much closer look at the

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<v Speaker 1>star Liners designed to see what, if any other problems

0:35:40.760 --> 0:35:44.719
<v Speaker 1>might be present. So this might mean that we might

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<v Speaker 1>have to wait until twenty twenty four. Star Liners first

0:35:48.680 --> 0:35:53.440
<v Speaker 1>test with astronauts aboard a capsule. Meanwhile, SpaceX has taken

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<v Speaker 1>up the slack. Speaking of space, NASA announced a partnership

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<v Speaker 1>with the Department of Defense here in the United States

0:35:59.520 --> 0:36:04.560
<v Speaker 1>to launch a nuclear powered rocket by twenty twenty seven. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>to be clear, the launch vehicle would use conventional chemically

0:36:10.000 --> 0:36:12.840
<v Speaker 1>fueled boosters to lift off of Earth. You wouldn't have

0:36:12.880 --> 0:36:18.320
<v Speaker 1>a nuclear reactor generating the thrust force to launch into orbit.

0:36:18.400 --> 0:36:23.480
<v Speaker 1>But once you got far enough out, then the spacecraft

0:36:23.600 --> 0:36:28.120
<v Speaker 1>would utilize what is essentially a nuclear reactor to generate heat.

0:36:28.840 --> 0:36:34.239
<v Speaker 1>This heat would then in turn superheat a liquid hydrogen

0:36:34.800 --> 0:36:38.759
<v Speaker 1>into a gas, so the gas would expand dramatically as

0:36:38.800 --> 0:36:41.800
<v Speaker 1>it heats up, and then by passing through a nozzle,

0:36:42.280 --> 0:36:46.120
<v Speaker 1>the gas would propel the spacecraft for it would provide

0:36:46.160 --> 0:36:49.920
<v Speaker 1>the thrust. Then you got nuclear propulsion. Doing this, however,

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be tricky. First of all, you got

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<v Speaker 1>to work with some very strict rules about nuclear reactors.

0:36:56.560 --> 0:37:00.560
<v Speaker 1>So any spacecraft that's going to have essentially a nuclear

0:37:00.600 --> 0:37:02.799
<v Speaker 1>reactor on board it is going to have to meet

0:37:02.840 --> 0:37:05.839
<v Speaker 1>those safety requirements. You also have to figure out how

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<v Speaker 1>to make it super duper duper duper safe. So that

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<v Speaker 1>if the launch were to go wrong, you don't end

0:37:11.360 --> 0:37:15.040
<v Speaker 1>up dropping like a nuclear reactor on Florida or something.

0:37:15.480 --> 0:37:19.360
<v Speaker 1>There are other challenges that are less doomsdayish. For example,

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<v Speaker 1>eventually a nuclear powered rocket would run out of propellant,

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<v Speaker 1>right if you're using liquid hydrogen as you're propellant. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>first you're gonna have to keep that stuff at twenty kelvin,

0:37:30.080 --> 0:37:32.720
<v Speaker 1>which is not that much higher than absolute zero, because

0:37:32.719 --> 0:37:38.280
<v Speaker 1>above that hydrogen will boil from liquid form into a gas.

0:37:38.520 --> 0:37:40.360
<v Speaker 1>So you have to manage that. You have to manage

0:37:40.360 --> 0:37:42.800
<v Speaker 1>the temperature of the propellant or else you're going to

0:37:42.880 --> 0:37:47.200
<v Speaker 1>be losing propellant. And then once you're out of propellant, well,

0:37:47.320 --> 0:37:50.160
<v Speaker 1>the engine's not really doing anything. I mean, the nuclear

0:37:50.200 --> 0:37:53.279
<v Speaker 1>reactor will be hot, but there's no propellant heat up,

0:37:53.360 --> 0:37:57.360
<v Speaker 1>so it's not going to generate additional thrust. So you

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<v Speaker 1>just have a nuclear reactor in space at that point.

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<v Speaker 1>It would require refueling the propellant if it were to

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<v Speaker 1>keep going. I'm sure engineers will encounter plenty of other

0:38:06.280 --> 0:38:08.640
<v Speaker 1>challenges as they work to meet this goal. By twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty seven, SETI aka the Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence, announced

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<v Speaker 1>that researchers have uncovered a new method to separate signal

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<v Speaker 1>from noise. So when it comes to searching for extra

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<v Speaker 1>terrestrial intelligence, we mostly focus on detecting radio waves, but

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<v Speaker 1>any radio waves from extraterrestrials would be pretty faint by

0:38:31.920 --> 0:38:34.839
<v Speaker 1>the time they reached us, assuming that these extraterrestrials are

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<v Speaker 1>a very far way away, which seems to be a

0:38:37.320 --> 0:38:40.960
<v Speaker 1>pretty safe assumption. Meanwhile, we are pumping all sorts of

0:38:41.040 --> 0:38:45.000
<v Speaker 1>radio waves out of Earth, so you have to tune

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<v Speaker 1>out all the stuff we earthlings generate that's interference in

0:38:48.239 --> 0:38:51.239
<v Speaker 1>this case, and then you can look for signs of

0:38:51.400 --> 0:38:54.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't know, alien television programs or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>But it becomes a real challenge. So the researchers say

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<v Speaker 1>that this new approach looks for repeated patterns in a

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<v Speaker 1>saygals amplitude, which is called scintillation. They're looking for scintillation,

0:39:05.320 --> 0:39:08.800
<v Speaker 1>and they propose that they can use scintillation to filter

0:39:09.040 --> 0:39:13.600
<v Speaker 1>out human generated signals, because human generated signals do not scintillate,

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<v Speaker 1>So you get rid of all the stuff that isn't

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<v Speaker 1>scintillating and focus on the stuff that is. And by definition,

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<v Speaker 1>those signals have to come from beyond Earth, because we

0:39:24.520 --> 0:39:27.200
<v Speaker 1>don't generate those kinds of signals, so it must have

0:39:27.280 --> 0:39:30.319
<v Speaker 1>come from somewhere else. Now that being said, that does

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<v Speaker 1>not necessarily mean it will end up coming from intelligent

0:39:33.600 --> 0:39:35.920
<v Speaker 1>life outside of Earth. There's a lot of stuff in

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<v Speaker 1>space that generates radio waves, and not all of it

0:39:39.320 --> 0:39:43.120
<v Speaker 1>is sentient or intelligent. It's just that's one of the

0:39:43.120 --> 0:39:48.400
<v Speaker 1>byproducts of the different celestial bodies out there. However, this

0:39:48.440 --> 0:39:51.640
<v Speaker 1>approach would definitely cut back on the problem of radio interference,

0:39:52.000 --> 0:39:54.880
<v Speaker 1>So if the truth is out there, this approach will

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<v Speaker 1>make it a little less difficult to detect. And finally,

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<v Speaker 1>I have an ar article recommendation for you. David Pierce

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<v Speaker 1>wrote a piece for The Verge titled The Little Search

0:40:06.520 --> 0:40:10.240
<v Speaker 1>Engine That Couldn't. This tells the story of some former

0:40:10.320 --> 0:40:14.560
<v Speaker 1>Google programmers who left Google and created an alternative search

0:40:14.600 --> 0:40:20.759
<v Speaker 1>engine called Neva n Eeva, and reportedly it's faster than

0:40:20.760 --> 0:40:23.880
<v Speaker 1>Google Search. It also is ad free. So why have

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<v Speaker 1>so few people heard about this, let alone used it.

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<v Speaker 1>The article is well worth a read, and as always,

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<v Speaker 1>I have no connection to the Verge and I do

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<v Speaker 1>not know David Pierce, although I did once sit next

0:40:35.840 --> 0:40:38.920
<v Speaker 1>to David Hyde Pierce the actor at a restaurant, but

0:40:38.960 --> 0:40:41.600
<v Speaker 1>that's a different person. I don't even know why I

0:40:41.600 --> 0:40:44.640
<v Speaker 1>brought it up anyway. That article again, it's on the

0:40:44.760 --> 0:40:48.320
<v Speaker 1>Verge and it's called The Little Search Engine That Couldn't.

0:40:48.960 --> 0:40:52.280
<v Speaker 1>And that's it for the Tech News for Thursday, July

0:40:52.440 --> 0:40:56.000
<v Speaker 1>twenty seventh, twenty twenty three. Man, this was an epic

0:40:56.080 --> 0:40:59.880
<v Speaker 1>news episode, tons of news. I was thinking that it

0:41:00.000 --> 0:41:02.120
<v Speaker 1>would be fairly light. I usually think Thursdays will be

0:41:02.200 --> 0:41:06.960
<v Speaker 1>lighter than Tuesdays, but man, we just got a ton

0:41:07.040 --> 0:41:09.719
<v Speaker 1>of stuff in the second half of the week. I

0:41:09.760 --> 0:41:12.480
<v Speaker 1>hope you are all well, and I'll talk to you

0:41:12.520 --> 0:41:22.960
<v Speaker 1>again really soon. Tech Stuff is an iHeartRadio production. For

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