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Speaker 1: I thought that was a nice scrimmage today between the

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Speaker 1: they absolutely were. And I'm glad you brought that up

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Speaker 1: They do it a lot. You know, you heard John

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Speaker 1: And it's I remember when he first did this in

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Speaker 1: It's good for the coaches too. I see them on

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Speaker 1: I couldn't believe he caught it. I you know, I

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Speaker 1: to more likely to happen. Here is I've got a

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Speaker 1: few tidbits for you. We'll get through them quickly. More

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Speaker 1: Aikins and Fells were relatively even last year, just two

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Speaker 1: But Thomas looking good. Who knows about wearing. He's kind

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Speaker 1: weren't totally convinced they could block five with four, that's

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Speaker 1: I think when fells production went down a little bit,

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Speaker 1: you needed Fells to have to help protect. Aikens has

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Speaker 1: is different than Fells. A lot of times they're not

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Speaker 1: both running the route. But I've seen even last year

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Speaker 1: at this time, I remember thinking, Boyd Shaun really likes

639
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Speaker 1: throwing to Aikins. He really likes going to Jordan Akins,

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Speaker 1: And today I thought that was the case. He had

641
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:08,839
Speaker 1: a great catch in the back of the end zone.

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Speaker 1: They aren't like the six or seven yard line, and

643
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Speaker 1: de Seaun threw it kind of high because he had

644
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Speaker 1: to kind of get it over a linebacker and over

645
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Speaker 1: aj More the safety, and Ache went up and just

646
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Speaker 1: snagged it, got both feeding down in bounds for a touchdown.

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Speaker 1: It was one heck of a catch. I think Aikins

648
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Speaker 1: continues to make to make those strides. I don't think

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Speaker 1: either one of them end up like twenty sixteen where

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Speaker 1: they both had where Ryan Griffin and Cedd Ferrowitz had

651
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Speaker 1: fifty plus catches each. But I could see a scenario

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Speaker 1: where both of them are now in the forties. I

653
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Speaker 1: could see that. I could absolutely see that. The only

654
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Speaker 1: way I don't go in Oh Aikins, Oh Aikins, no doubt. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I thought that that catch you're talking about the back

656
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Speaker 1: of the end zone. I thought that ball might be

657
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,800
Speaker 1: sailing out of bounds and Aikins just goes up and

658
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 1: gets it. It was a beautiful piece of work right there.

659
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Speaker 1: He also had another one down the right sideline between

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Speaker 1: the numbers and the sideline. That was really nice part

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Speaker 1: of the long or drive. All right, next one happen.

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Speaker 1: All right, we gotta go to these quick, Johnny. So

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Speaker 1: let's get I'm more likely to have the most catches

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Speaker 1: of the wide receiver group. Now that we've seen some

665
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Speaker 1: of these guys, what are you thinking? What's your latest

666
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Speaker 1: thought here? Because I have maybe an upset pick. Uh?

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Speaker 1: Can I say, David Johnson don't count not a receiver.

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Speaker 1: I mean he is a receiver, but he's not a

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Speaker 1: wide receiver. He's not a like at the combine. He

670
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Speaker 1: would not wear the wo the wide out little Fuller Fuller,

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Speaker 1: I am rolling serious dice, hoping that Will Fuller plays

672
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Speaker 1: fourteen to sixteen games. And when Will does play fourteen

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Speaker 1: to sixteen games, I think we're gonna see him in

674
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Speaker 1: that seventy catch range. And I think that's I think

675
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Speaker 1: that's gonna do it. I'm going Fuller. See, I don't

676
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 1: think that we should be shocked at all if Cobb

677
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 1: ends up leading the team and catches. I don't know.

678
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 1: I won't be shocked. Yeah, I won't be shocked either way.

679
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Speaker 1: But I just I'm I'm rolling dice on this one.

680
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 1: I'm rolling dice on this one thinking Fuller's gonna stay

681
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Speaker 1: healthy and he's gonna have that bang up here that

682
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 1: we've all talked about. I'll tell you another guy that

683
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 1: Sean feels very comfortable throwing too, that he feels good

684
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Speaker 1: throwing to this man, and that would be Kenny Stills. Yes,

685
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 1: you can just tell that he. Kenny's reliable, they have

686
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 1: a chemistry. He's a good option for him. And there

687
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 1: are many, but I like that one too. Okay, I'm

688
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 1: glad you more likely to have the most interceptions. Is

689
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 1: it Justin Reid or the field anybody else other than

690
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 1: Justin Reid? Because you get the fielding reads about to

691
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 1: have a big year. But other guys will be heard

692
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 1: from back there, cornerbacks, Bradley, Robie, Garyan Kindley. I don't

693
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 1: know if they're gonna have a lot of picks. You know,

694
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:46,399
Speaker 1: Robie's certainly capable of it. Is it somebody else we're

695
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 1: not thinking of? I always liked when Andre Howe was

696
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Speaker 1: playing because I could always say Andre Howe because he

697
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 1: was a ball magnet. You just somehow knew the ball

698
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,840
Speaker 1: was gonna end up in his lap somehow, Someway, and

699
00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 1: he's always can lead the team interceptions. So I get

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00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 1: Justin Reid or the field, I think because Justin will

701
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Speaker 1: be asked to do a lot more, whether it's blitzing,

702
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 1: whether it's playing in the box, whether it's just interchanging.

703
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Speaker 1: And now I'll put Eric Murray in coverage a little

704
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Speaker 1: bit more. I think that Eric Murray has an opportunity

705
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Speaker 1: because of his ball skills and the fact that he

706
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 1: has played you know, corner before. I mean, I think

707
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 1: he can navigate the middle of the field, not say

708
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 1: better than Justin Reid, but I think he'll be able

709
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Speaker 1: to navigate that part of the field. So I'm gonna

710
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Speaker 1: go with the field because that does give me Eric Murray,

711
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,720
Speaker 1: and it does give me the corners. You know, Roby

712
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 1: and man coverage proved last year. Man, it's it's tough

713
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:40,959
Speaker 1: to go out that guy. I mean, James Winston found

714
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 1: that out, Tom Brady found that out. And what Rode

715
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 1: played ten games nine games last year. He missed that

716
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 1: big stretch in the middle of the season, and maybe

717
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 1: he picks up one there. If he picks up one there,

718
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 1: he would have led the team with interceptions. So I

719
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,359
Speaker 1: get Roby and I get Murray. I think I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: go with the field, even though I know, I know

721
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Speaker 1: betting against Justin Reid is not something I want want

722
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Speaker 1: to do. But if I'm getting Murray and Robie, I'm

723
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna roll the dice and think that I'm good

724
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Speaker 1: with that. Interesting, Okay, more likely to have the most

725
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:14,359
Speaker 1: touchdowns in the AFC South. Now, quarterbacks don't count less.

726
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 1: They're rushing for these, right or receiving like Deshan had

727
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 1: a receiving touchdown last year. But the most touchdowns in

728
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Speaker 1: the AFC South, Derrick Henry or anybody else, or the

729
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 1: field Dereck Henry or the field for the most touchdowns.

730
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Speaker 1: So you can pick another back. You could pick Marlon Mack.

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Speaker 1: You could pick David Jenison. I think Mac and Jonathan

732
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 1: Taylor will vulture themselves. I don't think it will be

733
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Speaker 1: one or the other. I think they may combine for

734
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Speaker 1: the most touchdowns. Where that's two guys. Obviously, you know

735
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Speaker 1: who I'm gonna say it's gonna end up with the

736
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Speaker 1: most touchdowns. Who David Johnson, Oh, David Johnson, Yes, I

737
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Speaker 1: say David Johnson. Yeah, I'm gonna come by my receiving,

738
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:58,280
Speaker 1: receiving and rushing touchdown. Look, teams are gonna force Tennessee

739
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:00,319
Speaker 1: to have to throw the ball when they it down

740
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 1: inside the five. Now that's easier said than done, but

741
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Speaker 1: they're gonna force Tennessee to have to throw the ball.

742
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 1: And then, of course what we saw when Tennessee had

743
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 1: to throw the ball, Justin Reid made a play Whitney

744
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 1: merciless with the interception, which was very funny. That's something

745
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 1: to look forward to tomorrow when you talk to Justin

746
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 1: Reid his answer to that particular question and to that

747
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 1: particular play that happened last year. You'll you'll know what

748
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 1: I'm talking about when you're here tomorrow. But I just

749
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:30,919
Speaker 1: think David Johnson receiving and rushing, I think he's gonna

750
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Speaker 1: have an opportunity because with the Sean, you know, when

751
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 1: you get when you get inside the five and you're

752
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 1: facing the Texans, let's say, or the Texans get inside

753
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 1: the five, your defensive coordinator the other team, what's your focus? Oh, gosh,

754
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,320
Speaker 1: you gotta stop that run. Well, do you have to

755
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 1: stop the runner? Do you have to stop the Sean? Oh?

756
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 1: You're talking about the Texans. I'm sorry, yeah, yeah, yah,

757
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 1: Texans get inside the five. You're the opposing defensive coordinator.

758
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,880
Speaker 1: What do you have to stop? You're gonna stop to

759
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 1: Sean somehow? I mean I don't and I don't know how,

760
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 1: because like they could go five wide at the five

761
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:05,919
Speaker 1: right and just deal with you that where they could

762
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 1: line up in the eye and then they split you know,

763
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,359
Speaker 1: Aikens as a fullback and Johnson's a tailback and now

764
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 1: let's split them out. And now what are you gonna

765
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 1: do right now? They're on linebackers or whatever. You thought

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00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,200
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00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,320
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00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,799
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Speaker 1: I mean, we see things all the time, Johnny, where

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