Speaker 1: Certain portions of what you're about to hear have been
Speaker 1: dramatized based on real life events, eyewitness accounts, and court records.
Speaker 1: I confront the Irish heiress Mayor Smith in a downtown
Speaker 1: Los Angeles parking garage for conning me out of seventy
Speaker 1: thousand dollars. You've been scamming us out of money this
Speaker 1: whole time. You have the police, they aren't doing anything
Speaker 1: about it. So I start my own investigation and uncover victim.
Speaker 1: Even after victim, yes, two thousand dollars after victim like
Speaker 1: a PayPal credit card. I wouldn't never, but looking at
Speaker 1: the charges, it was notorious. Near when I cut ties
Speaker 1: with Mayor Smith in the parking garage that day. From
Speaker 1: here on end, we're not friends. I know she's dating
Speaker 1: an engineer in Newport Beach named Bob, and I'm betting
Speaker 1: I just know she's scamming him, just like she's scamming me.
Speaker 1: I don't have a phone number or even a last
Speaker 1: name for Bob, but I know I have to reach
Speaker 1: him somehow, so I start a blog. I realized that
Speaker 1: the chances of Bob actually finding my blog are slim
Speaker 1: to none, until one day my phone rings Hello, it's
Speaker 1: Bob calling. Turns out Mary Smith is pulling her biggest
Speaker 1: and most spectacular con job yet. I'm Jonathan Walton, and
Speaker 1: this is Queen of the Con Episode four, The Engineer.
Speaker 1: When you post something online, you never really know how
Speaker 1: it will be received. I get into unintentional political arguments
Speaker 1: with friends on face Book all the time. And the
Speaker 1: crime and the yangs and the drugs. He was on
Speaker 1: the cutting edge of civil rights when at Marrow Lago. First,
Speaker 1: I buy stuff on Craigslist that turns out to be
Speaker 1: total junk. I leave detailed and pointed reviews on Yelp
Speaker 1: that are flagged for violating their terms of service. How
Speaker 1: is describing a vegan restaurant's bathroom as an abomination against
Speaker 1: the rules? But my blog about con artist Mere Smith
Speaker 1: feels like the most important thing I'll ever post online
Speaker 1: in my entire life, and I desperately hope it will
Speaker 1: save a man named Bob, a complete stranger, from certain disaster.
Speaker 1: If Bob hadn't found your blog when he did, I
Speaker 1: don't know what would have happened. It would have been
Speaker 1: just devastating. Sarah Coffin is Bob's nanny taking care of
Speaker 1: his two kids from two thousand nine to two sixteen.
Speaker 1: She's a thirtysomething former preschool teacher with a passion for
Speaker 1: crafting costumes and Renaissance festivals. And she loves kids, especially
Speaker 1: Bob's kids, and they love her in a weird way.
Speaker 1: You kind of raised his kids with him, Yeah right, Yeah, No,
Speaker 1: I was a big part of their didn't they feel
Speaker 1: like your kids? I love those freaking kids so much.
Speaker 1: They're just It's September of Mayor Smith is deep in
Speaker 1: the process of scamming me out of seventy tho dollars
Speaker 1: when she starts dating Bob, an engineer in Newport Beach,
Speaker 1: an affluent seaside town in Orange County, about an hour's
Speaker 1: drive south of Los Angeles. How did you meet, Mayor? Okay,
Speaker 1: so Bob asked me to stay late one night when
Speaker 1: I was babysitting because he was on a date. So
Speaker 1: he brings her back to the house because they had
Speaker 1: like four bottles of wine or something, and she was
Speaker 1: too drunk to drive home. And I'm not sure how
Speaker 1: much of that was an act and how much was
Speaker 1: reality with her, because I'm not sure of anything with
Speaker 1: her anymore, but I think she ended up spending the
Speaker 1: night at his house, not like in the guest room,
Speaker 1: not like in his bed or anything, because the kids
Speaker 1: were home, and that was like a big fucking deal
Speaker 1: because he doesn't want to have women kids. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: he was. Let me just say this about Bob. Bob
Speaker 1: is one of the nicest human beings I have ever
Speaker 1: come in contact with. He is a really good guy.
Speaker 1: And when I met her, it was so awkward. I
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, I'm gonna go like now that you're back,
Speaker 1: and he's like, no, no, no, hang out and meet
Speaker 1: my new friend Mayre. So picture it. Bob's kids are
Speaker 1: asleep in their rooms and Sarah Bob end up seemingly
Speaker 1: inebriated Mayor smith Or in living room, making uncomfortable small talk,
Speaker 1: and Mayor's using that breathy Blanche Dubois street car named
Speaker 1: desire kind of voice. I've always depended on the kind strange.
Speaker 1: I mean, I drink, but it's definitely a different thing
Speaker 1: to be sober when somebody has really really drunk around you.
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, this is boring. I just wanted to
Speaker 1: go home, but we started talking about hockey and she
Speaker 1: invited me to a King's game. Wait a minute, you
Speaker 1: just met her and she invited you to a Kings game.
Speaker 1: She's like, oh, I can totally get into a King's
Speaker 1: game anytime. Let's go, you know, we can go tomorrow
Speaker 1: or something. It was it was really quick. I was like, what,
Speaker 1: I just met you, lady, but I went because my
Speaker 1: huge Kings So she targeted you immediately. Oh yeah. It
Speaker 1: was like, oh, I can get at her with this,
Speaker 1: and and Bob I know that the hockey thing was like, oh,
Speaker 1: you know I haven't in here. Yeah. Mayor certainly has
Speaker 1: a powerful in here because Bob and his nanny, Sarah,
Speaker 1: are rabid hockey fans, and Mayor quickly lets them know
Speaker 1: that she actually grew up with hockey legend Garth Snow,
Speaker 1: the manager of the New York Islanders. M M. I
Speaker 1: didn't know Garth Snow grew up in Ireland, and she's
Speaker 1: also best friends with Jack Capuano, the Islanders head coach.
Speaker 1: Jack would text her and she'd show you the texts
Speaker 1: Jack would text me. It was pretty quick because you know, oh,
Speaker 1: I've been led into the inner circle of Mayor's friends
Speaker 1: and that kind of makes you feel special. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: I mean hockey celebrities, you know kind of. I was like,
Speaker 1: that's pretty cool, you know. And those hockey celebrities are
Speaker 1: texting Bob too, developing a fast and deep friendship, all
Speaker 1: the while telling him what an amazing woman Mayor is,
Speaker 1: and they hope that he's not just after her at
Speaker 1: five million euro inheritance. I mean, of course he's not.
Speaker 1: Bob's no schlub himself either. Successful engineer, you know, he's
Speaker 1: very successful, right, like the stuff that he's developed. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's like a tech I don't want to digress, but engineer.
Speaker 1: He's responsible for a lot of like touchscreen phones. That's
Speaker 1: Bob's baby, and he's well he owned. He told me that,
Speaker 1: and I was like, get out. He's like, no, really, yeah,
Speaker 1: I hope develop the technology for that. I was like,
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ. So he does well in Newport Beach. He
Speaker 1: owns two homes, not one two. Yeah, and before long
Speaker 1: Bob and Mayor are in a serious relationship. She's actually
Speaker 1: recorded talking about Bob to one of her victims. There
Speaker 1: was a scientific study shown. Bob told me this with Apple.
Speaker 1: The reason Apple shows that dot dot dot is the
Speaker 1: person when you're texting gets a notification pay attention to this,
Speaker 1: and it gets your attention. Dot dot dot gets your attention.
Speaker 1: So the creators at Apple who do the processors, did
Speaker 1: that dot dot dot showing up on the bubble to
Speaker 1: make you pay attention to what's coming. Mayor tells Bob
Speaker 1: she works as a child custody investigator for l A County. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she's an Irish heiress worth millions, but she likes helping
Speaker 1: kids and giving back. And Mayor offers to help Bob
Speaker 1: because she has inside information that Bob's ex wife, Kelly,
Speaker 1: is endangering his children. She made it out like a
Speaker 1: bunch of shady ship was going on over at Kelly's.
Speaker 1: Shady is an understatement. Mayor made it seem as if
Speaker 1: they were abusing the kids, like this pedophile ring kind
Speaker 1: of thing. Like right that Bob's ex wife was running
Speaker 1: a B D s M club out of her house
Speaker 1: while the kids were there. The private investigator that was
Speaker 1: working with Mayor on Bob's case would text Bob and
Speaker 1: Mayor I found out attached to the phones she's running
Speaker 1: a B D s M sex ring out of the
Speaker 1: house in front of the kids. This is great, we
Speaker 1: can get the kids taken away from her Bob is
Speaker 1: really disturbed by these revelations, and he leans on Mayor
Speaker 1: for help more than ever. And Bob's nanny, Sarah, she
Speaker 1: suddenly pushed out of the picture entirely. So, how did
Speaker 1: Mayor get you fired? I was telling Mayor about stuff, Bob,
Speaker 1: stuff that's essentially it. And he's like, I can't believe
Speaker 1: you told her about me dating so and so. And
Speaker 1: I was like, well, I said you went on a
Speaker 1: date two years ago or whatever. There were no details there.
Speaker 1: And then the guys were harassing him, the guys, you know,
Speaker 1: the hockey guys. And he's like, I don't even know
Speaker 1: how they know about this stuff. And I'm like, I
Speaker 1: did not tell these guys. Oh, so Bob thinks you're
Speaker 1: telling Garth and telling Jack all these hockey his private business.
Speaker 1: Mayor was only pretending to be Sarah's best friend to
Speaker 1: pump her for information about Bob, stuff about his former girlfriends,
Speaker 1: his finances, his ex wife. Stuff only Sarah new. And
Speaker 1: when the hockey celebrities start texting Bob with knowledge of
Speaker 1: that private information, Bob feels betrayed by Sarah and that
Speaker 1: Mayor's urging. He fires her and angry that she took me,
Speaker 1: and mostly that she ruined this relationship that I had
Speaker 1: with this family, like I'd known them for so long
Speaker 1: and been close for so long, and for her to
Speaker 1: come in so fast and hard and just fuck everything
Speaker 1: up incredibly was just amazing to me, Like that she
Speaker 1: was that destructive, that fast, and that yes, oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: so evil, but that evil has genius underpinnings. What Sarah
Speaker 1: and I eventually figure out all the texts from those
Speaker 1: hockey celebrities that she and Bob keep receiving, it was
Speaker 1: a constant barrage aren't really coming from hockey celebrities at all.
Speaker 1: They're coming from Mayor, as are the texts from the
Speaker 1: private investigator working with Mayor in her capacity as a
Speaker 1: child custody advocate to bust up the b d s
Speaker 1: M sex ranked. Bob's ex wife is running out of
Speaker 1: her home. Nothing was true. I had no idea she
Speaker 1: pretended to be multiple people. And when you say she
Speaker 1: pretended to be all these people, what do you mean?
Speaker 1: So she'd have them text us And I'm a dumbmass
Speaker 1: because I should have figured that out way sooner that
Speaker 1: it was all Google numbers. And I had no idea
Speaker 1: that was a thing. But she would have like all
Speaker 1: of these conversations going at once that I mean, it
Speaker 1: was mind boggling that she was able to keep track
Speaker 1: of it all, because I sure as hell couldn't. She
Speaker 1: had my head spinning. So she would text you and
Speaker 1: text Bob pretending to be Garth Snow, the manager of
Speaker 1: that hockey team, and then pretending to be Jack Cappy,
Speaker 1: a hockey player. And she took me to a King's
Speaker 1: game where they were playing the Ducks, I think in
Speaker 1: David Nonas was a manager or something at the time,
Speaker 1: and he was there and she would keep waving to
Speaker 1: him and it almost looked like there was eye contact there.
Speaker 1: It was really believable at the time. And then you
Speaker 1: thought David was texting you or texting her, Yes, but
Speaker 1: it was really her texting herself as David. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was like just mind boggling, But it wasn't mind boggling
Speaker 1: to me because about a month for Bob and Sarah
Speaker 1: find my blog and call me up, I figure out
Speaker 1: all those texts and emails. Mayor would show me. When
Speaker 1: I was helping her get her inheritance from her barristers
Speaker 1: in Ireland from her hateful cousin Finton, and from her
Speaker 1: Los Angeles attorney. All originated from Google accounts. Mayor created
Speaker 1: herself to impersonate a cast of compelling characters. She was
Speaker 1: very good at the smoke and mirrors. She'd keep you
Speaker 1: spinning and you wouldn't know what was coming next to
Speaker 1: what was going on. And Bob certainly doesn't know what's
Speaker 1: going on because the con Mayor is running on him
Speaker 1: is now ripe and ready for harvest. She was trying
Speaker 1: to get ahold of his property, both of them. She
Speaker 1: was trying to get her name put on both of
Speaker 1: the deeds. She was going to buy the house, right,
Speaker 1: So the scam was as as Bob told me. The
Speaker 1: scam was. Mayor had this twenty five million year inheritance
Speaker 1: coming from her Irish family, and she was going to
Speaker 1: use a portion of that to buy this twelve million
Speaker 1: dollar house in or around Newport Beach. Thing was incorrect.
Speaker 1: She's like, oh, yeah, I'm going to buy this house,
Speaker 1: but it might be this one or that one. We
Speaker 1: she actually drove around with me and she showed me
Speaker 1: different houses. Like we just looked at him from the
Speaker 1: outside they were yeah. But then she showed me some
Speaker 1: you know, like the listings and the pictures online that
Speaker 1: they were incredible. She told me the one that they
Speaker 1: she really settled on had like a four car garage
Speaker 1: and she was going to make half of it a
Speaker 1: hockey rink. Okay. I was like, how are you gonna Okay,
Speaker 1: I mean I didn't quite get that, but anyway, Yeah,
Speaker 1: So she got a realtor and her and Bob in
Speaker 1: his land rover would go with the realtor and look
Speaker 1: at this twelve million dollar house like many times, and
Speaker 1: the plan is, I'm gonna buy this house. Mayor tells
Speaker 1: Bob she's going to buy the house. She wants to
Speaker 1: put his name on it. At first, Bob says, that's
Speaker 1: not right, because if our relationship goes south, I'll own
Speaker 1: a half of your home six million old. That's not right.
Speaker 1: And Mayor says, well, we can just make it equal.
Speaker 1: Add my name to your two homes and will be
Speaker 1: equal exactly. So Bob takes his kids to the to
Speaker 1: the mansion to pick out their bedrooms, and she puts
Speaker 1: in an offer and she's drawn. At this point, she
Speaker 1: has drawn up the paperwork for Bob to sign his
Speaker 1: homes over. He hasn't signed but fate intervened because Kelly,
Speaker 1: his wife, she really is a hero. Kelly got curious,
Speaker 1: who is this woman Mayor Smith spending time around my kids?
Speaker 1: And then what did Kelly do? She googled Mare and
Speaker 1: found your blog. She did, And then I get a
Speaker 1: phone call from Bob and I'm mean, this is after
Speaker 1: he had fired me. She was like, go ahead and
Speaker 1: google her and see if you come up with this.
Speaker 1: And I did, and my head just exploded. I was
Speaker 1: like that hunt like because I knew instantly that everything
Speaker 1: on your blog was absolutely true. There was no hesitation
Speaker 1: for me believing that. I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: this makes all the sense in the world now, Like
Speaker 1: a light went on, you know. So Bob rushes home
Speaker 1: and confronts Mayor by showing her a print out of
Speaker 1: my blog, and Mayor she doesn't say a word. She
Speaker 1: just quietly turns around and quickly walks out of his house,
Speaker 1: jumps in her car, and drives away fast. Bob never
Speaker 1: hears from Mayor Smith ever again, So thank you for
Speaker 1: putting your blog out there, because otherwise who knows what
Speaker 1: had happened to Bob. Actually, Bob and I have met
Speaker 1: at least a dozen times over the past couple of years,
Speaker 1: and talked about the insanity of falling from Mayor's elaborate
Speaker 1: cons for hours and hours on end. While you don't
Speaker 1: hear from him here, you will hear from him later,
Speaker 1: So stay tuned. As for his nanny, Sarah, why did
Speaker 1: Mayor want you out of the picture? Oh? Clearly so
Speaker 1: she could take over the caregiver position the kids, you know,
Speaker 1: not babysitting, but like she could be the mom and
Speaker 1: she could better influence Bob. So doing you signing over
Speaker 1: his homes to her? That makes me want to puke.
Speaker 1: And just when I think Sarah has said all that
Speaker 1: she can say, she drops this on me. Oh and then, oh,
Speaker 1: this is I told you about the life coaching thing.
Speaker 1: She was trying to bring me on as a life coach.
Speaker 1: Tell me so she's like, oh, yeah, you have the
Speaker 1: personality to be a great life coach. I'm going to
Speaker 1: teach you how to do this. So she let me
Speaker 1: listen to some very very private things that people had
Speaker 1: told her, and like she had me doing homework about
Speaker 1: how I would help them. And she was paying me
Speaker 1: a couple hundred bucks a week, which to me at
Speaker 1: even now would be a you know, a significant amount
Speaker 1: of money. She hired you as like an assistance. Yeah,
Speaker 1: kind of, But I really think that was just to
Speaker 1: push the rich lady thing right. I have a lot
Speaker 1: of the money. So Mayor tricks Sarah into believing she's
Speaker 1: a licensed psychologist. You know, it was a prerequisite for
Speaker 1: her child custody investigator gig and Mayor emails Sarah audio
Speaker 1: recordings of her life coaching sessions to train Sarah on
Speaker 1: how to be a life coach. You heard the sessions, God,
Speaker 1: I wish you still had those sessions now, because you
Speaker 1: deleted everything in a fit of rage after you found
Speaker 1: all this out. I might still have that, Oh my god,
Speaker 1: and I have it on my iTunes of all things.
Speaker 1: So Sarah rushes home and searches every digital dumpster i e.
Speaker 1: Thumb drive, old computer, retired cell phone in her house
Speaker 1: and in her car and actually finds one of the
Speaker 1: recordings Mayor sent her back in. What you are about
Speaker 1: to hear has never been shared publicly before. It's Mayor
Speaker 1: in session with one of her quote unquote clients. Do
Speaker 1: you think he did that to start a fighter? Really?
Speaker 1: Because he was insecure at this point. Mayor is counseling
Speaker 1: about a dozen clients in Los Angeles. That's your life
Speaker 1: much for this cycle of your life. I just want
Speaker 1: to be with somebody. I'm playing this recording over and
Speaker 1: over again, literally all day long. Do you see how
Speaker 1: that cycle keeps repeating. I just want to be with somebody.
Speaker 1: What surprises me the most her approach is a life coach.
Speaker 1: Is very unusual. I've never had a life coach, but
Speaker 1: from what I know, aren't they supposed to be supportive.
Speaker 1: I'm feeling really sick to miss stomach, and it's from
Speaker 1: you and not talk about themselves. Oh my god, you're
Speaker 1: breaking me, let alone their sex lives. I loved people
Speaker 1: where the sex is bad and I still walked away,
Speaker 1: and it want to be changed to bad sex. I
Speaker 1: have not loved people and had great sex that have
Speaker 1: stayed in the relationship for nine years because it was
Speaker 1: fucking amazing sex and I got four orgasms in a night.
Speaker 1: I wasn't letting that ship go. What you are witnessing
Speaker 1: is mayor tricking an emotionally vulnerable young woman for profit.
Speaker 1: You were manipulated and you were bullied into being married
Speaker 1: to him. It's as if she watches a week's worth
Speaker 1: of Dr Phil episodes and is off to the races.
Speaker 1: People who say I need space are actually subconsciously instigating
Speaker 1: a fight. So just a reminder here, Mayor is not
Speaker 1: licensed to practice basket weaving, let alone psychology. And a
Speaker 1: part of you took the path of least resistance and
Speaker 1: wanting to be in a relationship with somebody and allowing
Speaker 1: yourself to settle because he was better than nothing. And
Speaker 1: the confidence with which she issues her psychological assessments is
Speaker 1: as powerful as it is stunning, and it stands all
Speaker 1: the way back to your dad, because you would have
Speaker 1: to fight for his attention and his time and his affection,
Speaker 1: and what little he gave you had to earn. Right,
Speaker 1: aron I also discover her clients are some of her
Speaker 1: biggest victims. She scams tens of thousands of dollars from
Speaker 1: using the intimate details of their lives she gleans from
Speaker 1: sessions as ammunition for her cons According to some clients
Speaker 1: I spoke to Mayor impersonates via text and email, the
Speaker 1: very people these clients confess they're in love with from Afar,
Speaker 1: Mayor than tricks them into believing their love interest. It's
Speaker 1: actually taking life coaching from her too, and she offers
Speaker 1: to broker a romance for thousands of dollars for other clients.
Speaker 1: Mayor convinces them that they were molested as children, even
Speaker 1: though they don't remember it, and that's why they have
Speaker 1: trouble in relationships. But Mayor offers to fix them if
Speaker 1: they just pay her tens of thousands of dollars for
Speaker 1: more life coaching sessions. Were you cheating on other guys?
Speaker 1: Were you sleeping with multiple guys at one time? Not
Speaker 1: that there's anything wrong with that, I'm just trying to
Speaker 1: see what this measuring stick is for cheating capability. Listening
Speaker 1: to this recording, so your other homework asslignment. I want
Speaker 1: to define love. This deception unraveling, define in love. Compare
Speaker 1: the two makes me to quote Mayor sick to my stomach.
Speaker 1: And then I want you to write what your opinion
Speaker 1: of your role in each you love someone? What's your role?
Speaker 1: And if you're in love with someone, what's your role.
Speaker 1: At this point, it seems that everyone Mayor meets she
Speaker 1: scams eventually, Tina the lawyer, Sherry the strip club manager,
Speaker 1: Michelle the psychic client, Bob the engineer, Sarah his nanny
Speaker 1: and a bunch of life coaching clients. She's giving fake
Speaker 1: therapy sessions too, while robbing them blind. But there are
Speaker 1: a fortunate few who Mayor targets and lays the elaborate
Speaker 1: groundwork to con and then inexplicably changes her mind. So
Speaker 1: she was reading me text messages from Jennifer Jennifer Aniston
Speaker 1: asking my advice, and I'm like, so, let's figure this out.
Speaker 1: What do you want? So I was getting into the
Speaker 1: story going, oh my god, this is so wild. Remember
Speaker 1: Test catch A Tory, the CEO and founder of Global
Speaker 1: Women's Empowerment Network. Mayor spends six months tricking Tests into
Speaker 1: believing she's best friends with Jennifer Aniston. Using her tried
Speaker 1: and true fake email and texting techniques, Test believes that
Speaker 1: the A list celebrity is interested in being the spokesperson
Speaker 1: for her nonprofit and wants to meet with Tests in
Speaker 1: the near future. The craziest part is his Golden globes
Speaker 1: were coming up and she said, I want you to
Speaker 1: come with me. Jen says this year she's not going
Speaker 1: to go with her entreage. She just wants a few
Speaker 1: close friends, and so she invited me. She invited you
Speaker 1: to the Golden Globes with Jennifer Aniston. Jennifer Aniston invited her,
Speaker 1: and she said, I want to take you as my
Speaker 1: plus one because that will be a great place for
Speaker 1: you to talk with Jen because Jen this and Jend that.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, okay, oh my god. She does you
Speaker 1: have a dress? I said, I live in Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: We have a closet full accounts that we can throw
Speaker 1: on a you know, at a last minute for a
Speaker 1: red carpet. I said, I will find something. I will
Speaker 1: be there and so, you know, usually the Golden Globes
Speaker 1: in time zone starts a little early afternoon. But she
Speaker 1: called me late morning and I was starting to prepare
Speaker 1: to get ready, and she said, oh, I'm really sorry.
Speaker 1: Jen decided that she didn't want to have very many people.
Speaker 1: She's in a very private moment right now, and I
Speaker 1: don't remember. There might have been something in a personal
Speaker 1: life that made sense to me. I'm like, oh, that
Speaker 1: makes sense. I don't want to intrude. I'll meet when
Speaker 1: the time is right, but thank you so much for
Speaker 1: the invitation. As I put my dress back into the closet,
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, well, I'll watch it on TV like
Speaker 1: every other year, and then to find out later, you know,
Speaker 1: including the fact that she would set up Google accounts
Speaker 1: and phone numbers and multiple ways and tag Jennifer Aniston
Speaker 1: into it so it would come up on her phone
Speaker 1: or email that Jen was calling or Jem was emailing,
Speaker 1: or Jem was texting my friend Jen. I'll look at
Speaker 1: Jen just sent me a text, Isn't she great? I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, that's so nice. But the weird thing
Speaker 1: is is to imagine the wizard behind that curtain. Tess
Speaker 1: is giving me chills. Mayor really is the wizard behind
Speaker 1: the curtain, because it's all magical until you realize nothing
Speaker 1: she says is true. Shortly after that, Jennifer Aniston red
Speaker 1: carpet Renegg. Mayor never contacts Tess again and never tries
Speaker 1: to scam a single dime out of her. Tess and
Speaker 1: I are her posts still scratching her heads over that one.
Speaker 1: If I ever got to chance to ask her, I
Speaker 1: would say, what did you have planned for me? It's
Speaker 1: Sunday morning now in June of months after going to
Speaker 1: police and then covering other victims and almost victims like tests,
Speaker 1: but I'm no closer to getting justice than I am
Speaker 1: to getting washboard abs. I'm sitting on my couch sipping coffee.
Speaker 1: A story about people forgetting their email passwords plays on
Speaker 1: the morning news, and then suddenly a vivid memory floods
Speaker 1: my brain. Oh my god, it's this crazy thing. Here's
Speaker 1: how I explain it to my buddy Evan, who at
Speaker 1: this point thinks I'm so defiable. How did you get
Speaker 1: into her email account? And I was scared, that's your default?
Speaker 1: That my default? Emotions like, Johnathan, what the hell are
Speaker 1: you doing? So Mayor had given me her password a
Speaker 1: couple of years earlier because she was stuck in traffic.
Speaker 1: And she calls me and says she can't get into
Speaker 1: her email account her phone. It's hacked, her her emails hacked.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Jonathan, I'm a hacked. And she's like,
Speaker 1: you know, having hysterics on the phone. And I she
Speaker 1: asked me, can you log into my email from your
Speaker 1: computer and see if you can get in? So she
Speaker 1: trusted me, and and I was busy at work, and
Speaker 1: I took a moment, sure, and I she gave me
Speaker 1: her password. I logged in your email is fine? I think,
Speaker 1: just try to restart your phone and you know that
Speaker 1: might work. That fixes a lot of things. So she
Speaker 1: restarted her phone and it worked. And I forgot about
Speaker 1: that whole exchange because it happened in the blip of
Speaker 1: a work day. Totally forgot about the whole thing until
Speaker 1: one day after I realized I'm conned. A few months later,
Speaker 1: I'm watching the news on Sunday, drinking my coffee, and
Speaker 1: it just floods into my head. Oh my god, I
Speaker 1: know her password. Could that still be her password? No,
Speaker 1: you have to assume it would be right. I would
Speaker 1: assume she would have changed it, because she especially after
Speaker 1: all this. Yeah, I would assume. But no, I went
Speaker 1: to her email account. I put in her email and
Speaker 1: asked for the password. I put in the password, and
Speaker 1: damn I was in. It was her password. And what's
Speaker 1: even crazier is I'm not the only one of Mayor's
Speaker 1: victims who she gives her email password to mid scam.
Speaker 1: She gave you her email password? Why? Yep, Sarah the
Speaker 1: nanny got it too because she couldn't figure out how
Speaker 1: to use a goddamn firestick. She was setting up an
Speaker 1: Amazon firestick. Yeah, she couldn't figure that out. So I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: what's your password? You know? And she gave you her
Speaker 1: pass and remember what it was? Oh, but I remembered.
Speaker 1: Mayor's email account is a treasure trove of documented scams.
Speaker 1: It quickly discovered a lot of things. Well, she kept
Speaker 1: most of her emails deleted, but she didn't delete her
Speaker 1: scent that much. She did delete a lot. She kept
Speaker 1: everything deleted, which tells you she knew she was going
Speaker 1: to be caught one day. Everything was deleted in the inbox,
Speaker 1: but the scent still had a lot. And all of
Speaker 1: these characters Finton, Tristan, Dear Mud, Jennifer Aniston, all these
Speaker 1: people she impersonated all their emails. She was the same
Speaker 1: password for all those accounts. So I logged into every
Speaker 1: single account and changed the password. I locked her out
Speaker 1: of all twenty three email identities she had as all
Speaker 1: these people she used to scam people. That's gotta be
Speaker 1: crazy to just like open up someone's email and then
Speaker 1: you see literally a list of personas that she's acting as,
Speaker 1: not only the personas in the email exchanges. Now you
Speaker 1: might think what I'm doing is illegal, but it's actually not.
Speaker 1: For two reasons. Number One, Mayor gave me her password
Speaker 1: and from a legal standpoint that gives me and anyone else.
Speaker 1: She gives her password to permission to log into her account,
Speaker 1: and number two I logged into her email account with
Speaker 1: the sole intention of uncovering evidence of a crime and
Speaker 1: stopping crimes already in progress. I also reported all her
Speaker 1: fraudulent email accounts to the authorities. However, there was one
Speaker 1: discovery I made in Mayor's crime riddled accounts that I
Speaker 1: just never saw coming. So what's sugar Daddy for me
Speaker 1: dot com? So I didn't know this until I found
Speaker 1: this out. In the world, there are sugar daddies, and
Speaker 1: there are sugar babies, and sugar daddies pay sugar babies
Speaker 1: for sex. She had multiple men paying her a monthly
Speaker 1: fee for sex. Next time, on Queen of the con
Speaker 1: Mayor practiced witchcraft, and you witnessed that. And Mayor Smith
Speaker 1: casts a really profitable spell on a politician, and she
Speaker 1: told me that she was taking his money there, you know,
Speaker 1: so that he didn't have to confront her. She told
Speaker 1: me that too, he'd better be careful because when Mayor's
Speaker 1: cash flowest in jeopardy, all hell breaks loose. I want
Speaker 1: you to call the authorities. I what you promised me.
Speaker 1: You need to do right by me, not treat me
Speaker 1: like I'm an extortionist or crazy. For exclusive photos and
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