1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,320 Speaker 1: Certain portions of what you're about to hear have been 2 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: dramatized based on real life events, eyewitness accounts, and court records. 3 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: I confront the Irish heiress Mayor Smith in a downtown 4 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 1: Los Angeles parking garage for conning me out of seventy 5 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: thousand dollars. You've been scamming us out of money this 6 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:25,119 Speaker 1: whole time. You have the police, they aren't doing anything 7 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 1: about it. So I start my own investigation and uncover victim. 8 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 1: Even after victim, yes, two thousand dollars after victim like 9 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 1: a PayPal credit card. I wouldn't never, but looking at 10 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 1: the charges, it was notorious. Near when I cut ties 11 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: with Mayor Smith in the parking garage that day. From 12 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 1: here on end, we're not friends. I know she's dating 13 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: an engineer in Newport Beach named Bob, and I'm betting 14 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 1: I just know she's scamming him, just like she's scamming me. 15 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 1: I don't have a phone number or even a last 16 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 1: name for Bob, but I know I have to reach 17 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: him somehow, so I start a blog. I realized that 18 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: the chances of Bob actually finding my blog are slim 19 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 1: to none, until one day my phone rings Hello, it's 20 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 1: Bob calling. Turns out Mary Smith is pulling her biggest 21 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 1: and most spectacular con job yet. I'm Jonathan Walton, and 22 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 1: this is Queen of the Con Episode four, The Engineer. 23 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 1: When you post something online, you never really know how 24 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: it will be received. I get into unintentional political arguments 25 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: with friends on face Book all the time. And the 26 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 1: crime and the yangs and the drugs. He was on 27 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: the cutting edge of civil rights when at Marrow Lago. First, 28 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: I buy stuff on Craigslist that turns out to be 29 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: total junk. I leave detailed and pointed reviews on Yelp 30 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 1: that are flagged for violating their terms of service. How 31 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: is describing a vegan restaurant's bathroom as an abomination against 32 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: the rules? But my blog about con artist Mere Smith 33 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: feels like the most important thing I'll ever post online 34 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:41,359 Speaker 1: in my entire life, and I desperately hope it will 35 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 1: save a man named Bob, a complete stranger, from certain disaster. 36 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: If Bob hadn't found your blog when he did, I 37 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: don't know what would have happened. It would have been 38 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: just devastating. Sarah Coffin is Bob's nanny taking care of 39 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: his two kids from two thousand nine to two sixteen. 40 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 1: She's a thirtysomething former preschool teacher with a passion for 41 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: crafting costumes and Renaissance festivals. And she loves kids, especially 42 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: Bob's kids, and they love her in a weird way. 43 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 1: You kind of raised his kids with him, Yeah right, Yeah, No, 44 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 1: I was a big part of their didn't they feel 45 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: like your kids? I love those freaking kids so much. 46 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 1: They're just It's September of Mayor Smith is deep in 47 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: the process of scamming me out of seventy tho dollars 48 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 1: when she starts dating Bob, an engineer in Newport Beach, 49 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: an affluent seaside town in Orange County, about an hour's 50 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: drive south of Los Angeles. How did you meet, Mayor? Okay, 51 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: so Bob asked me to stay late one night when 52 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: I was babysitting because he was on a date. So 53 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: he brings her back to the house because they had 54 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 1: like four bottles of wine or something, and she was 55 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: too drunk to drive home. And I'm not sure how 56 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: much of that was an act and how much was 57 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: reality with her, because I'm not sure of anything with 58 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: her anymore, but I think she ended up spending the 59 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 1: night at his house, not like in the guest room, 60 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: not like in his bed or anything, because the kids 61 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 1: were home, and that was like a big fucking deal 62 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: because he doesn't want to have women kids. Yeah, so 63 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: he was. Let me just say this about Bob. Bob 64 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:35,160 Speaker 1: is one of the nicest human beings I have ever 65 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:38,160 Speaker 1: come in contact with. He is a really good guy. 66 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 1: And when I met her, it was so awkward. I 67 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 1: was like, Okay, I'm gonna go like now that you're back, 68 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 1: and he's like, no, no, no, hang out and meet 69 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: my new friend Mayre. So picture it. Bob's kids are 70 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 1: asleep in their rooms and Sarah Bob end up seemingly 71 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: inebriated Mayor smith Or in living room, making uncomfortable small talk, 72 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: and Mayor's using that breathy Blanche Dubois street car named 73 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 1: desire kind of voice. I've always depended on the kind strange. 74 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I drink, but it's definitely a different thing 75 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 1: to be sober when somebody has really really drunk around you. 76 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 1: It's like, oh, this is boring. I just wanted to 77 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 1: go home, but we started talking about hockey and she 78 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:33,599 Speaker 1: invited me to a King's game. Wait a minute, you 79 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: just met her and she invited you to a Kings game. 80 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: She's like, oh, I can totally get into a King's 81 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 1: game anytime. Let's go, you know, we can go tomorrow 82 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 1: or something. It was it was really quick. I was like, what, 83 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: I just met you, lady, but I went because my 84 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: huge Kings So she targeted you immediately. Oh yeah. It 85 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 1: was like, oh, I can get at her with this, 86 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 1: and and Bob I know that the hockey thing was like, oh, 87 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: you know I haven't in here. Yeah. Mayor certainly has 88 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 1: a powerful in here because Bob and his nanny, Sarah, 89 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 1: are rabid hockey fans, and Mayor quickly lets them know 90 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: that she actually grew up with hockey legend Garth Snow, 91 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 1: the manager of the New York Islanders. M M. I 92 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: didn't know Garth Snow grew up in Ireland, and she's 93 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: also best friends with Jack Capuano, the Islanders head coach. 94 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 1: Jack would text her and she'd show you the texts 95 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 1: Jack would text me. It was pretty quick because you know, oh, 96 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 1: I've been led into the inner circle of Mayor's friends 97 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 1: and that kind of makes you feel special. Yeah, well, 98 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 1: I mean hockey celebrities, you know kind of. I was like, 99 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 1: that's pretty cool, you know. And those hockey celebrities are 100 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: texting Bob too, developing a fast and deep friendship, all 101 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 1: the while telling him what an amazing woman Mayor is, 102 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 1: and they hope that he's not just after her at 103 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 1: five million euro inheritance. I mean, of course he's not. 104 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 1: Bob's no schlub himself either. Successful engineer, you know, he's 105 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: very successful, right, like the stuff that he's developed. Yeah, 106 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: he's like a tech I don't want to digress, but engineer. 107 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: He's responsible for a lot of like touchscreen phones. That's 108 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: Bob's baby, and he's well he owned. He told me that, 109 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: and I was like, get out. He's like, no, really, yeah, 110 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: I hope develop the technology for that. I was like, 111 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: Jesus Christ. So he does well in Newport Beach. He 112 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: owns two homes, not one two. Yeah, and before long 113 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: Bob and Mayor are in a serious relationship. She's actually 114 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: recorded talking about Bob to one of her victims. There 115 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 1: was a scientific study shown. Bob told me this with Apple. 116 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 1: The reason Apple shows that dot dot dot is the 117 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: person when you're texting gets a notification pay attention to this, 118 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 1: and it gets your attention. Dot dot dot gets your attention. 119 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: So the creators at Apple who do the processors, did 120 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: that dot dot dot showing up on the bubble to 121 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: make you pay attention to what's coming. Mayor tells Bob 122 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: she works as a child custody investigator for l A County. Yeah, 123 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: she's an Irish heiress worth millions, but she likes helping 124 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 1: kids and giving back. And Mayor offers to help Bob 125 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 1: because she has inside information that Bob's ex wife, Kelly, 126 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 1: is endangering his children. She made it out like a 127 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 1: bunch of shady ship was going on over at Kelly's. 128 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: Shady is an understatement. Mayor made it seem as if 129 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:51,439 Speaker 1: they were abusing the kids, like this pedophile ring kind 130 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: of thing. Like right that Bob's ex wife was running 131 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 1: a B D s M club out of her house 132 00:08:56,240 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: while the kids were there. The private investigator that was 133 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 1: working with Mayor on Bob's case would text Bob and 134 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: Mayor I found out attached to the phones she's running 135 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 1: a B D s M sex ring out of the 136 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:10,839 Speaker 1: house in front of the kids. This is great, we 137 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 1: can get the kids taken away from her Bob is 138 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: really disturbed by these revelations, and he leans on Mayor 139 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: for help more than ever. And Bob's nanny, Sarah, she 140 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: suddenly pushed out of the picture entirely. So, how did 141 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 1: Mayor get you fired? I was telling Mayor about stuff, Bob, 142 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 1: stuff that's essentially it. And he's like, I can't believe 143 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:36,679 Speaker 1: you told her about me dating so and so. And 144 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: I was like, well, I said you went on a 145 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 1: date two years ago or whatever. There were no details there. 146 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 1: And then the guys were harassing him, the guys, you know, 147 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 1: the hockey guys. And he's like, I don't even know 148 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 1: how they know about this stuff. And I'm like, I 149 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 1: did not tell these guys. Oh, so Bob thinks you're 150 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 1: telling Garth and telling Jack all these hockey his private business. 151 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 1: Mayor was only pretending to be Sarah's best friend to 152 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: pump her for information about Bob, stuff about his former girlfriends, 153 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:10,839 Speaker 1: his finances, his ex wife. Stuff only Sarah new. And 154 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 1: when the hockey celebrities start texting Bob with knowledge of 155 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: that private information, Bob feels betrayed by Sarah and that 156 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:26,199 Speaker 1: Mayor's urging. He fires her and angry that she took me, 157 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 1: and mostly that she ruined this relationship that I had 158 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:31,959 Speaker 1: with this family, like I'd known them for so long 159 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 1: and been close for so long, and for her to 160 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 1: come in so fast and hard and just fuck everything 161 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 1: up incredibly was just amazing to me, Like that she 162 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:48,560 Speaker 1: was that destructive, that fast, and that yes, oh my gosh, 163 00:10:48,559 --> 00:11:04,959 Speaker 1: so evil, but that evil has genius underpinnings. What Sarah 164 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 1: and I eventually figure out all the texts from those 165 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 1: hockey celebrities that she and Bob keep receiving, it was 166 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 1: a constant barrage aren't really coming from hockey celebrities at all. 167 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 1: They're coming from Mayor, as are the texts from the 168 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 1: private investigator working with Mayor in her capacity as a 169 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 1: child custody advocate to bust up the b d s 170 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: M sex ranked. Bob's ex wife is running out of 171 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 1: her home. Nothing was true. I had no idea she 172 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 1: pretended to be multiple people. And when you say she 173 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 1: pretended to be all these people, what do you mean? 174 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 1: So she'd have them text us And I'm a dumbmass 175 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: because I should have figured that out way sooner that 176 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 1: it was all Google numbers. And I had no idea 177 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 1: that was a thing. But she would have like all 178 00:11:55,080 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 1: of these conversations going at once that I mean, it 179 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 1: was mind boggling that she was able to keep track 180 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:07,079 Speaker 1: of it all, because I sure as hell couldn't. She 181 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 1: had my head spinning. So she would text you and 182 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 1: text Bob pretending to be Garth Snow, the manager of 183 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:18,599 Speaker 1: that hockey team, and then pretending to be Jack Cappy, 184 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:22,319 Speaker 1: a hockey player. And she took me to a King's 185 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 1: game where they were playing the Ducks, I think in 186 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 1: David Nonas was a manager or something at the time, 187 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 1: and he was there and she would keep waving to 188 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: him and it almost looked like there was eye contact there. 189 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 1: It was really believable at the time. And then you 190 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: thought David was texting you or texting her, Yes, but 191 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 1: it was really her texting herself as David. Yeah, it 192 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 1: was like just mind boggling, But it wasn't mind boggling 193 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:01,079 Speaker 1: to me because about a month for Bob and Sarah 194 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 1: find my blog and call me up, I figure out 195 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 1: all those texts and emails. Mayor would show me. When 196 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:10,319 Speaker 1: I was helping her get her inheritance from her barristers 197 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 1: in Ireland from her hateful cousin Finton, and from her 198 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 1: Los Angeles attorney. All originated from Google accounts. Mayor created 199 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:24,319 Speaker 1: herself to impersonate a cast of compelling characters. She was 200 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 1: very good at the smoke and mirrors. She'd keep you 201 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:33,079 Speaker 1: spinning and you wouldn't know what was coming next to 202 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 1: what was going on. And Bob certainly doesn't know what's 203 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:39,559 Speaker 1: going on because the con Mayor is running on him 204 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 1: is now ripe and ready for harvest. She was trying 205 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 1: to get ahold of his property, both of them. She 206 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 1: was trying to get her name put on both of 207 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 1: the deeds. She was going to buy the house, right, 208 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 1: So the scam was as as Bob told me. The 209 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 1: scam was. Mayor had this twenty five million year inheritance 210 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 1: coming from her Irish family, and she was going to 211 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 1: use a portion of that to buy this twelve million 212 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 1: dollar house in or around Newport Beach. Thing was incorrect. 213 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 1: She's like, oh, yeah, I'm going to buy this house, 214 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: but it might be this one or that one. We 215 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 1: she actually drove around with me and she showed me 216 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 1: different houses. Like we just looked at him from the 217 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 1: outside they were yeah. But then she showed me some 218 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 1: you know, like the listings and the pictures online that 219 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 1: they were incredible. She told me the one that they 220 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: she really settled on had like a four car garage 221 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 1: and she was going to make half of it a 222 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: hockey rink. Okay. I was like, how are you gonna Okay, 223 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 1: I mean I didn't quite get that, but anyway, Yeah, 224 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 1: So she got a realtor and her and Bob in 225 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 1: his land rover would go with the realtor and look 226 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 1: at this twelve million dollar house like many times, and 227 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: the plan is, I'm gonna buy this house. Mayor tells 228 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 1: Bob she's going to buy the house. She wants to 229 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 1: put his name on it. At first, Bob says, that's 230 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 1: not right, because if our relationship goes south, I'll own 231 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 1: a half of your home six million old. That's not right. 232 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 1: And Mayor says, well, we can just make it equal. 233 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 1: Add my name to your two homes and will be 234 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 1: equal exactly. So Bob takes his kids to the to 235 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 1: the mansion to pick out their bedrooms, and she puts 236 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: in an offer and she's drawn. At this point, she 237 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 1: has drawn up the paperwork for Bob to sign his 238 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 1: homes over. He hasn't signed but fate intervened because Kelly, 239 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 1: his wife, she really is a hero. Kelly got curious, 240 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 1: who is this woman Mayor Smith spending time around my kids? 241 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 1: And then what did Kelly do? She googled Mare and 242 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 1: found your blog. She did, And then I get a 243 00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 1: phone call from Bob and I'm mean, this is after 244 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 1: he had fired me. She was like, go ahead and 245 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 1: google her and see if you come up with this. 246 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: And I did, and my head just exploded. I was 247 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: like that hunt like because I knew instantly that everything 248 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 1: on your blog was absolutely true. There was no hesitation 249 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: for me believing that. I was like, oh my god, 250 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 1: this makes all the sense in the world now, Like 251 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 1: a light went on, you know. So Bob rushes home 252 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 1: and confronts Mayor by showing her a print out of 253 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 1: my blog, and Mayor she doesn't say a word. She 254 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 1: just quietly turns around and quickly walks out of his house, 255 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 1: jumps in her car, and drives away fast. Bob never 256 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 1: hears from Mayor Smith ever again, So thank you for 257 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: putting your blog out there, because otherwise who knows what 258 00:16:56,960 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 1: had happened to Bob. Actually, Bob and I have met 259 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 1: at least a dozen times over the past couple of years, 260 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 1: and talked about the insanity of falling from Mayor's elaborate 261 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 1: cons for hours and hours on end. While you don't 262 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 1: hear from him here, you will hear from him later, 263 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 1: So stay tuned. As for his nanny, Sarah, why did 264 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:19,640 Speaker 1: Mayor want you out of the picture? Oh? Clearly so 265 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 1: she could take over the caregiver position the kids, you know, 266 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 1: not babysitting, but like she could be the mom and 267 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 1: she could better influence Bob. So doing you signing over 268 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:33,639 Speaker 1: his homes to her? That makes me want to puke. 269 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 1: And just when I think Sarah has said all that 270 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 1: she can say, she drops this on me. Oh and then, oh, 271 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 1: this is I told you about the life coaching thing. 272 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 1: She was trying to bring me on as a life coach. 273 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 1: Tell me so she's like, oh, yeah, you have the 274 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: personality to be a great life coach. I'm going to 275 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,679 Speaker 1: teach you how to do this. So she let me 276 00:17:56,800 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 1: listen to some very very private things that people had 277 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:05,199 Speaker 1: told her, and like she had me doing homework about 278 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 1: how I would help them. And she was paying me 279 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: a couple hundred bucks a week, which to me at 280 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 1: even now would be a you know, a significant amount 281 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 1: of money. She hired you as like an assistance. Yeah, 282 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: kind of, But I really think that was just to 283 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 1: push the rich lady thing right. I have a lot 284 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 1: of the money. So Mayor tricks Sarah into believing she's 285 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 1: a licensed psychologist. You know, it was a prerequisite for 286 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:35,120 Speaker 1: her child custody investigator gig and Mayor emails Sarah audio 287 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 1: recordings of her life coaching sessions to train Sarah on 288 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 1: how to be a life coach. You heard the sessions, God, 289 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 1: I wish you still had those sessions now, because you 290 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:47,400 Speaker 1: deleted everything in a fit of rage after you found 291 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 1: all this out. I might still have that, Oh my god, 292 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,120 Speaker 1: and I have it on my iTunes of all things. 293 00:18:55,520 --> 00:19:00,080 Speaker 1: So Sarah rushes home and searches every digital dumpster i e. 294 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 1: Thumb drive, old computer, retired cell phone in her house 295 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 1: and in her car and actually finds one of the 296 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:12,439 Speaker 1: recordings Mayor sent her back in. What you are about 297 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 1: to hear has never been shared publicly before. It's Mayor 298 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 1: in session with one of her quote unquote clients. Do 299 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 1: you think he did that to start a fighter? Really? 300 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 1: Because he was insecure at this point. Mayor is counseling 301 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 1: about a dozen clients in Los Angeles. That's your life 302 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 1: much for this cycle of your life. I just want 303 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 1: to be with somebody. I'm playing this recording over and 304 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 1: over again, literally all day long. Do you see how 305 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 1: that cycle keeps repeating. I just want to be with somebody. 306 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:51,679 Speaker 1: What surprises me the most her approach is a life coach. 307 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 1: Is very unusual. I've never had a life coach, but 308 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 1: from what I know, aren't they supposed to be supportive. 309 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:01,680 Speaker 1: I'm feeling really sick to miss stomach, and it's from 310 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 1: you and not talk about themselves. Oh my god, you're 311 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 1: breaking me, let alone their sex lives. I loved people 312 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: where the sex is bad and I still walked away, 313 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 1: and it want to be changed to bad sex. I 314 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 1: have not loved people and had great sex that have 315 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 1: stayed in the relationship for nine years because it was 316 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:25,360 Speaker 1: fucking amazing sex and I got four orgasms in a night. 317 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 1: I wasn't letting that ship go. What you are witnessing 318 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: is mayor tricking an emotionally vulnerable young woman for profit. 319 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 1: You were manipulated and you were bullied into being married 320 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 1: to him. It's as if she watches a week's worth 321 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:45,159 Speaker 1: of Dr Phil episodes and is off to the races. 322 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 1: People who say I need space are actually subconsciously instigating 323 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: a fight. So just a reminder here, Mayor is not 324 00:20:55,960 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 1: licensed to practice basket weaving, let alone psychology. And a 325 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 1: part of you took the path of least resistance and 326 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 1: wanting to be in a relationship with somebody and allowing 327 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 1: yourself to settle because he was better than nothing. And 328 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:18,439 Speaker 1: the confidence with which she issues her psychological assessments is 329 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:22,360 Speaker 1: as powerful as it is stunning, and it stands all 330 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 1: the way back to your dad, because you would have 331 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 1: to fight for his attention and his time and his affection, 332 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:34,439 Speaker 1: and what little he gave you had to earn. Right, 333 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:40,360 Speaker 1: aron I also discover her clients are some of her 334 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 1: biggest victims. She scams tens of thousands of dollars from 335 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 1: using the intimate details of their lives she gleans from 336 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 1: sessions as ammunition for her cons According to some clients 337 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:56,439 Speaker 1: I spoke to Mayor impersonates via text and email, the 338 00:21:56,640 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: very people these clients confess they're in love with from Afar, 339 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 1: Mayor than tricks them into believing their love interest. It's 340 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:09,440 Speaker 1: actually taking life coaching from her too, and she offers 341 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 1: to broker a romance for thousands of dollars for other clients. 342 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 1: Mayor convinces them that they were molested as children, even 343 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:21,159 Speaker 1: though they don't remember it, and that's why they have 344 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 1: trouble in relationships. But Mayor offers to fix them if 345 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 1: they just pay her tens of thousands of dollars for 346 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 1: more life coaching sessions. Were you cheating on other guys? 347 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,919 Speaker 1: Were you sleeping with multiple guys at one time? Not 348 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 1: that there's anything wrong with that, I'm just trying to 349 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 1: see what this measuring stick is for cheating capability. Listening 350 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 1: to this recording, so your other homework asslignment. I want 351 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 1: to define love. This deception unraveling, define in love. Compare 352 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 1: the two makes me to quote Mayor sick to my stomach. 353 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,159 Speaker 1: And then I want you to write what your opinion 354 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 1: of your role in each you love someone? What's your role? 355 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 1: And if you're in love with someone, what's your role. 356 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,919 Speaker 1: At this point, it seems that everyone Mayor meets she 357 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 1: scams eventually, Tina the lawyer, Sherry the strip club manager, 358 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 1: Michelle the psychic client, Bob the engineer, Sarah his nanny 359 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 1: and a bunch of life coaching clients. She's giving fake 360 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:45,640 Speaker 1: therapy sessions too, while robbing them blind. But there are 361 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:49,439 Speaker 1: a fortunate few who Mayor targets and lays the elaborate 362 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 1: groundwork to con and then inexplicably changes her mind. So 363 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 1: she was reading me text messages from Jennifer Jennifer Aniston 364 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 1: asking my advice, and I'm like, so, let's figure this out. 365 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:04,879 Speaker 1: What do you want? So I was getting into the 366 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:08,679 Speaker 1: story going, oh my god, this is so wild. Remember 367 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 1: Test catch A Tory, the CEO and founder of Global 368 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 1: Women's Empowerment Network. Mayor spends six months tricking Tests into 369 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 1: believing she's best friends with Jennifer Aniston. Using her tried 370 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:23,679 Speaker 1: and true fake email and texting techniques, Test believes that 371 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 1: the A list celebrity is interested in being the spokesperson 372 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 1: for her nonprofit and wants to meet with Tests in 373 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:33,119 Speaker 1: the near future. The craziest part is his Golden globes 374 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 1: were coming up and she said, I want you to 375 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 1: come with me. Jen says this year she's not going 376 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,360 Speaker 1: to go with her entreage. She just wants a few 377 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 1: close friends, and so she invited me. She invited you 378 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:52,120 Speaker 1: to the Golden Globes with Jennifer Aniston. Jennifer Aniston invited her, 379 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 1: and she said, I want to take you as my 380 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 1: plus one because that will be a great place for 381 00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 1: you to talk with Jen because Jen this and Jend that. 382 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 1: And I'm like, okay, oh my god. She does you 383 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 1: have a dress? I said, I live in Los Angeles. 384 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,360 Speaker 1: We have a closet full accounts that we can throw 385 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:12,920 Speaker 1: on a you know, at a last minute for a 386 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 1: red carpet. I said, I will find something. I will 387 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 1: be there and so, you know, usually the Golden Globes 388 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,439 Speaker 1: in time zone starts a little early afternoon. But she 389 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 1: called me late morning and I was starting to prepare 390 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 1: to get ready, and she said, oh, I'm really sorry. 391 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 1: Jen decided that she didn't want to have very many people. 392 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,159 Speaker 1: She's in a very private moment right now, and I 393 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 1: don't remember. There might have been something in a personal 394 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,439 Speaker 1: life that made sense to me. I'm like, oh, that 395 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,400 Speaker 1: makes sense. I don't want to intrude. I'll meet when 396 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,159 Speaker 1: the time is right, but thank you so much for 397 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 1: the invitation. As I put my dress back into the closet, 398 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:52,439 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, well, I'll watch it on TV like 399 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 1: every other year, and then to find out later, you know, 400 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 1: including the fact that she would set up Google accounts 401 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 1: and phone numbers and multiple ways and tag Jennifer Aniston 402 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 1: into it so it would come up on her phone 403 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 1: or email that Jen was calling or Jem was emailing, 404 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,399 Speaker 1: or Jem was texting my friend Jen. I'll look at 405 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,919 Speaker 1: Jen just sent me a text, Isn't she great? I'm like, 406 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 1: oh my god, that's so nice. But the weird thing 407 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 1: is is to imagine the wizard behind that curtain. Tess 408 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 1: is giving me chills. Mayor really is the wizard behind 409 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: the curtain, because it's all magical until you realize nothing 410 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 1: she says is true. Shortly after that, Jennifer Aniston red 411 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 1: carpet Renegg. Mayor never contacts Tess again and never tries 412 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 1: to scam a single dime out of her. Tess and 413 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,400 Speaker 1: I are her posts still scratching her heads over that one. 414 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 1: If I ever got to chance to ask her, I 415 00:26:56,520 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 1: would say, what did you have planned for me? It's 416 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 1: Sunday morning now in June of months after going to 417 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 1: police and then covering other victims and almost victims like tests, 418 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 1: but I'm no closer to getting justice than I am 419 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:20,120 Speaker 1: to getting washboard abs. I'm sitting on my couch sipping coffee. 420 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,439 Speaker 1: A story about people forgetting their email passwords plays on 421 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:28,120 Speaker 1: the morning news, and then suddenly a vivid memory floods 422 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 1: my brain. Oh my god, it's this crazy thing. Here's 423 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 1: how I explain it to my buddy Evan, who at 424 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:39,160 Speaker 1: this point thinks I'm so defiable. How did you get 425 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 1: into her email account? And I was scared, that's your default? 426 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 1: That my default? Emotions like, Johnathan, what the hell are 427 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 1: you doing? So Mayor had given me her password a 428 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 1: couple of years earlier because she was stuck in traffic. 429 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:57,640 Speaker 1: And she calls me and says she can't get into 430 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 1: her email account her phone. It's hacked, her her emails hacked. 431 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 1: Oh my god, Jonathan, I'm a hacked. And she's like, 432 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 1: you know, having hysterics on the phone. And I she 433 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 1: asked me, can you log into my email from your 434 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 1: computer and see if you can get in? So she 435 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:14,119 Speaker 1: trusted me, and and I was busy at work, and 436 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:15,879 Speaker 1: I took a moment, sure, and I she gave me 437 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,400 Speaker 1: her password. I logged in your email is fine? I think, 438 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 1: just try to restart your phone and you know that 439 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 1: might work. That fixes a lot of things. So she 440 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 1: restarted her phone and it worked. And I forgot about 441 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 1: that whole exchange because it happened in the blip of 442 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 1: a work day. Totally forgot about the whole thing until 443 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 1: one day after I realized I'm conned. A few months later, 444 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,159 Speaker 1: I'm watching the news on Sunday, drinking my coffee, and 445 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 1: it just floods into my head. Oh my god, I 446 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 1: know her password. Could that still be her password? No, 447 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 1: you have to assume it would be right. I would 448 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 1: assume she would have changed it, because she especially after 449 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 1: all this. Yeah, I would assume. But no, I went 450 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 1: to her email account. I put in her email and 451 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 1: asked for the password. I put in the password, and 452 00:28:56,760 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 1: damn I was in. It was her password. And what's 453 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 1: even crazier is I'm not the only one of Mayor's 454 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 1: victims who she gives her email password to mid scam. 455 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 1: She gave you her email password? Why? Yep, Sarah the 456 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 1: nanny got it too because she couldn't figure out how 457 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 1: to use a goddamn firestick. She was setting up an 458 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 1: Amazon firestick. Yeah, she couldn't figure that out. So I'm like, well, 459 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 1: what's your password? You know? And she gave you her 460 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 1: pass and remember what it was? Oh, but I remembered. 461 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 1: Mayor's email account is a treasure trove of documented scams. 462 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 1: It quickly discovered a lot of things. Well, she kept 463 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 1: most of her emails deleted, but she didn't delete her 464 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 1: scent that much. She did delete a lot. She kept 465 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 1: everything deleted, which tells you she knew she was going 466 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 1: to be caught one day. Everything was deleted in the inbox, 467 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 1: but the scent still had a lot. And all of 468 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 1: these characters Finton, Tristan, Dear Mud, Jennifer Aniston, all these 469 00:29:56,040 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 1: people she impersonated all their emails. She was the same 470 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 1: password for all those accounts. So I logged into every 471 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 1: single account and changed the password. I locked her out 472 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,479 Speaker 1: of all twenty three email identities she had as all 473 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 1: these people she used to scam people. That's gotta be 474 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 1: crazy to just like open up someone's email and then 475 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 1: you see literally a list of personas that she's acting as, 476 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 1: not only the personas in the email exchanges. Now you 477 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 1: might think what I'm doing is illegal, but it's actually not. 478 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 1: For two reasons. Number One, Mayor gave me her password 479 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 1: and from a legal standpoint that gives me and anyone else. 480 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 1: She gives her password to permission to log into her account, 481 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 1: and number two I logged into her email account with 482 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 1: the sole intention of uncovering evidence of a crime and 483 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 1: stopping crimes already in progress. I also reported all her 484 00:30:52,840 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 1: fraudulent email accounts to the authorities. However, there was one 485 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 1: discovery I made in Mayor's crime riddled accounts that I 486 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 1: just never saw coming. So what's sugar Daddy for me 487 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 1: dot com? So I didn't know this until I found 488 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 1: this out. In the world, there are sugar daddies, and 489 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 1: there are sugar babies, and sugar daddies pay sugar babies 490 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 1: for sex. She had multiple men paying her a monthly 491 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 1: fee for sex. Next time, on Queen of the con 492 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:39,719 Speaker 1: Mayor practiced witchcraft, and you witnessed that. And Mayor Smith 493 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 1: casts a really profitable spell on a politician, and she 494 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 1: told me that she was taking his money there, you know, 495 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 1: so that he didn't have to confront her. She told 496 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 1: me that too, he'd better be careful because when Mayor's 497 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 1: cash flowest in jeopardy, all hell breaks loose. I want 498 00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 1: you to call the authorities. I what you promised me. 499 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 1: You need to do right by me, not treat me 500 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 1: like I'm an extortionist or crazy. For exclusive photos and 501 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 1: other bonus material, follow at Queen of the Con on 502 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 1: Instagram and if you're enjoying Queen of the Con, tell 503 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 1: your friends about it and leave us a review on 504 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Queen of 505 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 1: the Con. 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