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Speaker 1: Tennis Podcast. It is Wow, what a week of tennis.

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Speaker 1: We had what well ten days. We had a blackout,

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Speaker 1: Oh you want to just table the men's No, no.

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Speaker 2: Novak is at Sea.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and we had two unexpected finalists in the form

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Speaker 1: what we see in Paris. So Madrid is not a

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Speaker 1: precursor to who's going to do well in Paris. I mean,

436
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Speaker 1: when you think about it, and this is what I

437
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Speaker 1: was going to bring it up with the women, Sabalenca

438
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Speaker 1: became the first player to win three Madrid titles since

439
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Speaker 1: Petra Covitteva. Hilarious. That describes to you how different the

440
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Speaker 1: conditions are in Madrid. I would you that Patrick a

441
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Speaker 1: bit of a I don't even know. I probably should

442
00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:04,280
Speaker 1: have looked upfore I did the pod, But can't imagine

443
00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:06,000
Speaker 1: her winning a lot of clay court tournaments. Now we

444
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Speaker 1: know she's a two time Wimbledon champion. Because of her game,

445
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Speaker 1: you have to serve well in Madrid. If you don't

446
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Speaker 1: serve well, you're going to get crushed. And you saw

447
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Speaker 1: there was a lot of acing, a lot of big servers,

448
00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:18,960
Speaker 1: and a lot of big servers have won the Madrid title,

449
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Speaker 1: which is why Rafa never won. He won Madrid like

450
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Speaker 1: one or two times.

451
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Speaker 2: That's it.

452
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Speaker 1: I mean, come on his career.

453
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's crazy.

454
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Rodger won it. How many times? He won it

455
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Speaker 1: more times than Rafa probably, so it's not a great

456
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Speaker 1: precursor on the women's side. It maybe can be a

457
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Speaker 1: little bit lesser. So, but arguably, look, Sabalanca and Rude

458
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Speaker 1: will probably be maybe second. Sabellanca certainly second favorite to

459
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Speaker 1: win the French. I would say Rud's probably third favorite

460
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Speaker 1: to win the French. Now you think, oh, yeah, I

461
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Speaker 1: have to put him in. That guy's made it to

462
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Speaker 1: the final twice. He loves the clay there that when

463
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Speaker 1: would have given him so much confidence, Caitline to win

464
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Speaker 1: a Masses one thousand. He can finally put that away

465
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Speaker 1: and say, all right, what's the next thing for me

466
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Speaker 1: to do in a Slam? Can I do it? I

467
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Speaker 1: don't know, but I certainly can get to the final.

468
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Speaker 1: Why not it's just dependent on if he plays al

469
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Speaker 1: Chorazin Djokovic. You know, the guys that he that know

470
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Speaker 1: they can win them. I don't know. Listen what I

471
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Speaker 1: expect from Sinner. He has a buye. He has a

472
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Speaker 1: pretty good second round navone or Sinner, not Sinner but

473
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Speaker 1: with a C. I n a a wild card Italian,

474
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Speaker 1: but you never know, could be the next Sinner. So

475
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Speaker 1: he has a pretty good draw. He probably will play

476
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Speaker 1: David David Kin. I can never say his name, thank

477
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Speaker 1: you once I hear it once, I'm good. That could

478
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Speaker 1: be a tough one. We know how well he can

479
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Speaker 1: play on clay. But overall his draw is reasonably good.

480
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Speaker 1: There's no one really up that half of the draw

481
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Speaker 1: that's going to be, you know, frankly, in my opinion,

482
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Speaker 1: better than him.

483
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Speaker 3: Question setting aside the doping stuff, which we've talked about

484
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Speaker 3: at length, and if you need to hear more, Rude.

485
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Speaker 1: Is in his half. So it'll be interesting to see

486
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Speaker 1: how how he sits there.

487
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Speaker 3: What's your feeling generally with tennis players like rest or Rest,

488
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Speaker 3: because now he's had a couple of months off, is

489
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Speaker 3: that good?

490
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Speaker 1: You know? I think there's there's something in that that

491
00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:16,439
Speaker 1: is really good for him because the amount of pressure

492
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Speaker 1: on his shoulders over the last year to win the

493
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Speaker 1: austrain and Open, win the US Open, have the results

494
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Speaker 1: that he's had over the last twelve months has been

495
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Speaker 1: pretty spectacular. I'm sure he would have liked to have

496
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Speaker 1: kept playing because he was playing so well. But at

497
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Speaker 1: the same time, look, you know, he probably went skiing.

498
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Speaker 1: He probably really enjoyed himself, and then he's probably been

499
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Speaker 1: working unbelievably hard over the last month to get him

500
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Speaker 1: back on the court, and he would have been playing

501
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Speaker 1: practice sets out the wazoo.

502
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Speaker 3: Sure, And it's not like he comes into the realm

503
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Speaker 3: tournament his home Master's one thousand as like an underdog

504
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Speaker 3: or somebody somebody's overlooking. But certainly maybe to your point

505
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Speaker 3: about pressure, like, it's.

506
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Speaker 2: Not the worst thing in the world to like win, Yeah,

507
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Speaker 2: I think be like, hey.

508
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna take you know, I think resting the brain,

509
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Speaker 1: whether it's my choice or not. Yeah, I mean, listen,

510
00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,000
Speaker 1: only he will be able to answer this question. But

511
00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:04,440
Speaker 1: and you know, whether he's going to be honest about

512
00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:06,679
Speaker 1: it or not, I think it It also would have

513
00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:08,520
Speaker 1: been really hard for him to be sitting out of

514
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Speaker 1: the sport for three months knowing that, particularly for him

515
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Speaker 1: feeling like he didn't do anything wrong. You know, if

516
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Speaker 1: that's the case, it would have been hard. He would

517
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Speaker 1: have been ruminating over it every day, like everyone thinks

518
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Speaker 1: I'm a cheat, Like that's really hard. That must be

519
00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,160
Speaker 1: really hard for him as well, particularly if he knows

520
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Speaker 1: he didn't do anything wrong. Look, I'm not saying he

521
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Speaker 1: did or not. None of us know that. None of

522
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Speaker 1: us know the truth except him the physio, and maybe

523
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Speaker 1: Nick Curious, who seems to and apparently Nick curious, but

524
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Speaker 1: you know, really no one knows the truth right accept them.

525
00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,080
Speaker 1: And so if he is truly innocent, and he really

526
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Speaker 1: does think that he was hard done, I imagine he

527
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Speaker 1: wouldn't be thinking about it would be really hard to

528
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Speaker 1: deal with that for three months. So I think that

529
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Speaker 1: he's probably at his very happiest on the tennis court.

530
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Speaker 1: So I'm sure we'll listen. Time will tell, Time will tell.

531
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Speaker 2: I'm just I'm really excited about it.

532
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Speaker 1: Colitus reappearance, Well, we're all very happy to Carlos. I mean,

533
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Speaker 1: you know how I feel about the guy. He's just

534
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Speaker 1: the best. Zverev is course number two seed in Rome.

535
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:13,879
Speaker 1: He of course, he just I don't know his ranking

536
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Speaker 1: being it to hopefully that changes by the French Open,

537
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Speaker 1: because he doesn't deserve to be number two in the world.

538
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,840
Speaker 1: He just doesn't. He just he has not turned up

539
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Speaker 1: for the big matches.

540
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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a perennial, like semi finalist.

541
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Speaker 1: He's in alcaraz Is down that half of the draw.

542
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Speaker 1: So you know, we'll see. Listen if Verev does beat Carlos,

543
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Speaker 1: or if he gets through to the finals here or

544
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Speaker 1: wins Rome. Hey, it's a totally different story. It's a

545
00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,320
Speaker 1: totally different story. And he is deserved of the number

546
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Speaker 1: two ranking at the French Open. Look, he is because

547
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Speaker 1: of rankings and all that sort of stuff, and you

548
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Speaker 1: don't get there without winning a lot of matches. And

549
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:52,840
Speaker 1: he has won a lot of matches, but there's a

550
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Speaker 1: difference between stepping up when they're big matches. Yeah, and

551
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,880
Speaker 1: you know, his loss in that should not happen in Madrid.

552
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 1: His game is perfect for Madrid, big surve, big fourhand,

553
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 1: but he gets tight, He gets so tight on his

554
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,400
Speaker 1: forehand it's like it's hard to watch. Anyway.

555
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Speaker 4: Let's get to the lady, lady, So do you think

556
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Speaker 4: Coco listened to our last podcast.

557
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Speaker 1: I think she did. I think she did.

558
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Speaker 3: Because she really you know, yes, she last in the

559
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Speaker 3: final tour in a SOUTHLKA.

560
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Speaker 2: But what a great tournament, what a great tournament.

561
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Speaker 1: What a great tournament.

562
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Speaker 3: I'm glad that I think we couched it. As you know,

563
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Speaker 3: tough love, but mainly love.

564
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Speaker 1: It's always tough love. But it's always.

565
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Speaker 2: Especially with Coco.

566
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Speaker 3: She I mean, let's just talk about her masterclass.

567
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 1: Oh my god, No, okay, okay, let's look at let's.

568
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:09,440
Speaker 2: Talk about that. That's one of the most.

569
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Speaker 1: Let's look at that objectively, Okay, objectively arguably the worst

570
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 1: match I ever seen Eager Chiante play in my entire life.

571
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 2: Very poor.

572
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 1: It was fucking terrible mistakes out the wazoo, not serving well,

573
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:32,359
Speaker 1: missing easy backhands, missing easy fourhands, missing returns like it

574
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 1: was just brutal. I've never seen such a great player,

575
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 1: particularly on a surface that is owned by her play

576
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,680
Speaker 1: and look so incredibly lost on the tennis court. There

577
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 1: is no height on her shots, there is no margin

578
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 1: on the shots. She's going for shots that she shouldn't be,

579
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,199
Speaker 1: She's pulling the trigger too early in the point. It

580
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 1: was just brutal. I mean. And the flip side is

581
00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:02,000
Speaker 1: that Coco was absolutely out and serving out of her

582
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:06,400
Speaker 1: just mind, like acing left and right, which is another thing,

583
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:10,159
Speaker 1: like eager stand back, like how about take a step

584
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 1: back in the court and give your opponent a different look.

585
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,679
Speaker 1: The one thing you know about Coco is if she

586
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 1: hits the double fault or starts missing her first serve,

587
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 1: you know in your mind you sort of got her. Right,

588
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 1: there's a little there's a there's a window that just

589
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:29,160
Speaker 1: got opened that you can say, Okay, I'm climbing through it. Yes,

590
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,200
Speaker 1: I'm going to own this house now because you just

591
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,399
Speaker 1: opened the window, right, which is what happened in the final.

592
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 1: But we're going to get to that, right, I'm gonna

593
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 1: own this house. Sense. So Coco didn't give a lot

594
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 1: of the free stuff, right, She wasn't double folding. She

595
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,439
Speaker 1: was serving unbelievable. She was hitting a lot of bases.

596
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 1: She served that one out wide like eighty percent of

597
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 1: the time, like eager, what the f like stand over

598
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,479
Speaker 1: there or stand back the app like what is no offense?

599
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,160
Speaker 1: But whim like come on, man, like you're sitting there.

600
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,359
Speaker 1: You can tell her anything you want. How about change

601
00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 1: your return position? Get in her head a little bit,

602
00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 1: Like the one thing you want from Coco is to

603
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 1: lose her rhythm on her surf. You're standing in the

604
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,919
Speaker 1: same spot, You're going for the same ridiculous return. Like

605
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,639
Speaker 1: there was just it was the it was the epitome

606
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 1: of like greatness playing against not greatness in one day.

607
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 1: I mean, Coco did not miss her forehand. You could

608
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 1: tell eager was going to a forehand and she wasn't

609
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 1: making a mistake, and all of a sudden, She's like,

610
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:22,880
Speaker 1: what do I do? It's like, what do you mean,

611
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 1: what do you do? You got to move the ball.

612
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,199
Speaker 1: It's almost like she's so fixated on she was so

613
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 1: fixated on getting it to the forehand that she would

614
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 1: have an easy backhand and she would still go she

615
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:34,879
Speaker 1: would try and go down the line and miss it.

616
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 1: And I'm like, just hit your best backhand, your best

617
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,479
Speaker 1: backhands as good as anybody else's Like, yes, Coco's got

618
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 1: a great backhand, but you know, sometimes you got to

619
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 1: step up and go manner a manner like I'm gonna

620
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 1: which is why she used to beat Coco all the time,

621
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:51,159
Speaker 1: because she was like, I can handle your backhand to backhand, yeah.

622
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 2: And then I'll earn a look at your weik for

623
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,679
Speaker 2: h but you're not gonna get there right Only.

624
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 1: It's almost like whim's like you know, you only got

625
00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,119
Speaker 1: to go to the forehand, which okay, is fine, But

626
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 1: Coco lost matches missing backhands too.

627
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 3: I wonder a couple of things about Ego. I'm not

628
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,360
Speaker 3: that we want to take anything from Coco.

629
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 2: Unbelievable, so happy to see her with that aggressive sir.

630
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the fact she stepped up and served it out, like.

631
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 3: The two points I want to make about do you

632
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 3: think so Ega had a pretty intense draw up until

633
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 3: this point and she was playing well.

634
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 2: Like that was to what was shocking about it. It's

635
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,120
Speaker 2: not like we saw her have a bad day after

636
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:27,160
Speaker 2: a series of bad days.

637
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 3: She had a great match with alex Ela that I

638
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 3: want to come back to because Christy on my team

639
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 3: had made a point like I wonder if that introduced

640
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 3: some seeds of doubt in Eagle's mind. Losing a set

641
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 3: to alex Eya who who had beaten her for sure

642
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 3: in Miami. Then she plays Lyndonskova, not a bad player.

643
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 3: Then she played Schneider.

644
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 1: In Osco, who she'd lost to at Thestraia.

645
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 2: Lost the New Australian.

646
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 3: Then she played Janet Schneider, who's you know, hard hitting lefty,

647
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 3: went to three sets. Then she beat Madison Keys in

648
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 3: three sets. Who had you know, beaten her in that

649
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 3: epic still probably the best match of the year.

650
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 1: Which I still wonder if that scar tissues really hurt her. Yeah.

651
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 3: So, like you know, she shows up to the Cocoa

652
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 3: match and she should be feeling good. She's vanquished two

653
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 3: former foes in the in the past, three former foes

654
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 3: who've taken her out this year.

655
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 1: Alone in the run up, tough matches, tough.

656
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 2: Matches, physical matches, and to see her physically not show up.

657
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 2: She wasn't injured that we know of.

658
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 1: Well, we know that her grandfather had died the week before,

659
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 1: so you know, she hadn't mentioned that. You know, I'm

660
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 1: sure that was weighing on her in some regards. But

661
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 1: at the same time, you hadn't gotten you had gotten

662
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 1: through three or four matches right round so against you know,

663
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,719
Speaker 1: her first round opponent. Okay, you can understand why that

664
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 1: might might be still you know, hanging over. I think

665
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 1: this was just there's scar tissue and all those matches

666
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 1: she lost a set six love to Madison, Like there's

667
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 1: scar tissue along the way of not beating you know,

668
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 1: Alex in straight sets on clay, which a lot of

669
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 1: people were expecting, not beating a Madison, Keys in straight

670
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 1: sets on clay, or all these players on clay. Easily

671
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 1: we're used to the bagel and the bakery Eager, right,

672
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 1: the O and one, the one and one, and it's

673
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 1: really hard to do that against anyone. That just shows

674
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 1: you how great she was prior and now there's doubt. Yeah,

675
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 1: it's kind of like what's happening with Novak, but in

676
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 1: a different way because he's older and there's no question

677
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 1: his age, and the drive isn't there as much as anymore,

678
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 1: but the driver is certainly there for Eager. I just

679
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 1: wonder there's a little bit of scar tissue. I talk

680
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 1: about it all the time on her brain. Like it's

681
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 1: like and when you miss some balls, you're like, oh

682
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 1: my god, here we go again, and you can see it,

683
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 1: and she's just it's the same as Coco. As soon

684
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 1: as she hits the double fault or misses a foyand

685
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 1: you see his shoulder slump and she's like, oh my god,

686
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 1: get us first servant.

687
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 2: So I deal with with Eager in particular.

688
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 3: You know you called out when Fassett, who you know

689
00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 3: has had great results with a lot of players, but

690
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 3: you tactically you'd like to see her be encouraged to

691
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 3: go backhand to back in and maybe there's a coaching

692
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 3: thing there.

693
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 2: I do also want to say, like, you know, there's

694
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 2: a lot.

695
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 3: Of credit has been given to her mental coach time

696
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 3: and time again about how tough mentally she is, and

697
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 3: I have to say she has looked the opposite of

698
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 3: tough mentally.

699
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 2: I think that's to me the main issue she looks.

700
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it goes hand in hand, right. So you

701
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 1: can work on someone's mentality all day, every day. But

702
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 1: if they're not comfortable on the tennis court, I don't

703
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 1: give a shit.

704
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 2: How many mental coaches job to make sure they're comfortable

705
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 2: on the tennis cord.

706
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 1: Well, yes, but also if they're not comfortable hitting the

707
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 1: tennis ball and they're confused about what they should be

708
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 1: doing with the tennis ball, then that that is the

709
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 1: overriding factor. I can feel great all I want. I

710
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 1: can be like, no, no, you're good, you're good, No

711
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 1: need to panic, no need to panic, Okay, go to

712
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 1: hit that forehand. What do I do? What do I

713
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 1: do with it? Oh? My god, that's right in practice,

714
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 1: I don't know if I should be hitting it there.

715
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 1: They're telling me this, I don't know. And all of

716
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 1: a sudden, for me, it comes down to what you're

717
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 1: doing on the practice court as well. And I just

718
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 1: and also the problem solving that's happening in the match

719
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 1: and there's no problem solving like that was just there

720
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 1: were so many moments where I was like, why would

721
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 1: you hit that shot? Like why are you going for that?

722
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 1: What was that? There were so many times she needs

723
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 1: to work on her slice. I don't care what anyone says,

724
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 1: you know, there were times where she could have. You

725
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 1: have to mix the pace up. Yeah, And if it's

726
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 1: not working and you're bounding the ball and you're losing rallies,

727
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 1: you have to vary the pace. You have to hit

728
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 1: a high ball. You have to do a slice. That's

729
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 1: what mea Andreva does so well.

730
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 2: And usually you could does that. I mean she used

731
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 2: to do, but certainly with the off piece.

732
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 1: Back in the day. I remember she used to have

733
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 1: this drop shot. She used to did a drop shot

734
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 1: all the time. She didn't drop shot at all anymore,

735
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 1: Like all of a sudden, she doesn't drop shot, she

736
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 1: doesn't eat high balls, she doesn't try and vary the pace.

737
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 1: She tries to hit every ball one hundred miles an hour,

738
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 1: and it's like there's no variation and if it's not

739
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 1: going in, then all of a sudden, it's like the

740
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 1: panic sets in and it's hard to watch. And also

741
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 1: it comes from me. It starts with this as well.

742
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 1: I just think she's missing way too many first serves

743
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 1: and her second serve is getting predictable, and you know,

744
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 1: it was just it was ugly. It was ugly. It

745
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 1: was ugly from Eager, and it was fantastic from Coco,

746
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 1: which is why it was one on one.

747
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 2: Two more things I want to talk about on this relatively.

748
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 1: Short that'd be like beating Rougher one on one.

749
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 2: It's staggering.

750
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, but we're going to have a big roam extravaganza

751
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 3: next week and week after. But just sort of briefly

752
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 3: as we wrap this up, like shout out to one

753
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 3: of whim Fassett's former.

754
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 1: H wait before we get to Naomi, though, I just

755
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 1: want to finish the final so sable Anca Coco definitely

756
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 1: come out came out a little bit nervous, isn't it

757
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 1: because I think she played so well against Eager that

758
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 1: she probably had a little bit of pressure on her

759
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 1: coming out, like okay, now you got to you gotta

760
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 1: show everybody that you can still do this right. And

761
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 1: there's no doubt whether it was subconscious or consciously in

762
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 1: her mind. And I think she started a little bit

763
00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 1: flat and then you know, started playing really, really a

764
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 1: lot better. In the first set. You know, Sabalanca gets

765
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 1: the first set done, they were the tennis was great,

766
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 1: like they were hitting the ball so big. And then

767
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 1: the second set when when Coco gets the break and

768
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 1: there's up and then is five when she's serving for

769
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 1: the set, you, as an opponent, this is what I

770
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:20,879
Speaker 1: was talking about, you know, locker room reputation and all

771
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 1: this sort of stuff. It's like, you know, if Coco

772
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 1: gives you a little window, you climb through it, and

773
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 1: Sabalanca doesn't climb through, she smashes it down. Okay, So

774
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, she's serving for the set, playing

775
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 1: great first point double fault. As an opponent, you're like,

776
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 1: you go, uh, okay, here we go. Now. Subsequently, she

777
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 1: had a set point and Sabalanca crushed a return, but

778
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 1: again didn't you know, didn't get the free point on

779
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 1: the serve and all that sort of stuff. But when

780
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 1: you double fault the first point, there is a moment

781
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 1: in you as an opponent where you go, ah, okay,

782
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 1: all right, I know she's gonna get tight if I

783
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 1: just play positively, and well, right now I'm getting back

784
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:04,439
Speaker 1: in this match.

785
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 3: And these two have had so much history, yeah that

786
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 3: they know. Of course, these moments really were and I

787
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 3: think you can see it.

788
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 1: But even if you don't play against them, anyone who

789
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 1: knows playing against Coco, you know that there could be

790
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,720
Speaker 1: a window that's opened on the forehand and the serf.

791
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 1: And unfortunately, and I know this is a tough love again,

792
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 1: but when you're serving for the first set, the first

793
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,359
Speaker 1: point is so important, and when you it's one thing

794
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 1: to lose it, but to lose it double folding, yeah,

795
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 1: it's just it's just not a good thing.

796
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 2: No three points.

797
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 1: So of course the serve breaks down and the forehand

798
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 1: breaks down. At five four both break down and at

799
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 1: five all even there, she's love thirty on Sabalanca serve

800
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:46,879
Speaker 1: love thirty Okay, well, we're going to get the break

801
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:51,720
Speaker 1: straight back, which often happens right foehand miss missed return,

802
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 1: forehand miss return and then another error I think on

803
00:35:56,840 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 1: a backhand and just gave the game back to Applanca

804
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,359
Speaker 1: with errors on the forehand side. Yeah, you know, and

805
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 1: then again serving to stay in the match, a couple

806
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 1: of forehand errors again and on match point double fault. Like,

807
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 1: so if you're looking at it from a coach's perspective,

808
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 1: you have to say what happens there? Now, I've always

809
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 1: said bad technique breaks down under pressure, and unfortunately Coco

810
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 1: with her serve and forehand, her technique is questionable, right,

811
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 1: everything else is so unbelievably good, And there are times

812
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 1: where she's hitting the forehand well, but like get the

813
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:32,839
Speaker 1: hide on the forehand, Like I would just be telling

814
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 1: her get that hide on the forehand and then smack

815
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 1: your backhand.

816
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:40,839
Speaker 3: What's the serve that you're telling her to start that game?

817
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 3: I think you have to slice body serve where it's

818
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:45,840
Speaker 3: like percentage but like kind of tough, like what you

819
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 3: know from a tactics perspective, like obviously I'm going to

820
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 3: try to get the first serve in. Yeah, but like

821
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 3: Is there a specific serve that you're telling her, especially

822
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:55,479
Speaker 3: with her game, Yeah, to go for.

823
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 1: Well, it's hard because her technique, you know, it doesn't

824
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 1: really allow to. I mean, honestly, it's just super important

825
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 1: that you get your first serve in on that first characters.

826
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,320
Speaker 1: And you saw her at five to four. She turns

827
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 1: around and the camera was on her and she said, oh,

828
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 1: first serve. So it's in her head, yeah, you know,

829
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 1: because she knows the pressure then is on her on

830
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 1: a second serve, particularly against Sabelenka. I mean, she's just

831
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 1: gonna crush your second.

832
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 3: Sech And that's the thing, Like you can see Sebelinka

833
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 3: and I remember distinctly watching her play against Coco.

834
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:26,359
Speaker 2: You know, Coco misses the first serve.

835
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 3: It doesn't even matter how hard the first serve is,

836
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 3: no matter what Arena's taking two steps in and like

837
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 3: just because she knows she can crush it. But also

838
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 3: like the aggressive return position on a second serve, like

839
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:39,280
Speaker 3: within a readA to Sablenka, She's gonna give you less

840
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,959
Speaker 3: seconds to react, less like and I know that that's

841
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 3: so much in her head when she's going up to

842
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 3: the line, which is obviously why the double falls tend

843
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 3: to tend to show up in those pressure moments. So yeah,

844
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 3: I mean, I think for me, the main takeaway from

845
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 3: Coco is like, what a great week. Still some stuff

846
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 3: to work on, but like, what a fantastic turnaround of

847
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 3: the season. She has to be feeling, I tell you,

848
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,720
Speaker 3: so much better better going into Rome and Paris.

849
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 1: No, she's going to be real good in Paris. I

850
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 1: think she's going to.

851
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 2: Be real good, but the game is better with her strong.

852
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:08,839
Speaker 1: I think she needs to understand in the very tight

853
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 1: moments when it gets when she gets a little nervous

854
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 1: and she can feel it, and everybody feels it, everybody

855
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:15,839
Speaker 1: you know, when it's happening, you start getting a little

856
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 1: bit doubtful in your own mind. You either have to

857
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 1: have a word to yourself and be like, fuck, no,

858
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 1: not today. You know I'm getting the first servey in

859
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 1: and I'm going for it and I know I'm going

860
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 1: to make it, or if you know that, you're like

861
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:29,839
Speaker 1: faking it till you make it and you know you're

862
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 1: a little bit tight and so you get you feel

863
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 1: your arm a little bit heavy. You got to just

864
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 1: get that first survey in, like just the first point.

865
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:41,799
Speaker 1: Just get a good first serve in and what use

866
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,919
Speaker 1: what you use and do as well as anyone, which

867
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 1: is run a million balls down, smack some backhands, hit

868
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 1: the height on your forehand and make your opponent beat you. Instead,

869
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 1: it was it was opposite. It was the opposite in

870
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,879
Speaker 1: this match, Like she actually gave away three points at five,

871
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 1: four and five all she gave those away. She had

872
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 1: a swinging volley that missed and like so there was

873
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 1: there was about six points that she probably if she

874
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 1: just pulled back a little bit and not push the ball.

875
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 1: That's not what I'm talking about.

876
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 3: But margin, percentage, play of your strength, smacking back hands.

877
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 1: Make Sablenka in that moment beat you. If she steps

878
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:19,479
Speaker 1: up and hits a couple of winners, you go, okay,

879
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 1: I've got to be a little bit more aggressive. I mean,

880
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 1: you do have to calculate all this when you're out there.

881
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,320
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that, Yeah that's not easy, but

882
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 1: it's this is the separator, right, Well, was what rude?

883
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:30,720
Speaker 1: Did you know? He got tight in the second set.

884
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 1: He's like, oh, just make it and then Jack went

885
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,359
Speaker 1: bang and so he's like, shit, I can't do that.

886
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 1: So if I want to win this match. I have

887
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 1: to go for it. So you have to get that

888
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 1: layer of the land when you're out there. But the

889
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 1: most important thing for Coco is do not give away

890
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,840
Speaker 1: a free point by double folding. That is the killer

891
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 1: for her. And because it gives your opponents so much

892
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 1: breathing room, they just go, okay, okay, she's tight. I'll

893
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 1: probably get a free couple of points here, and that

894
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 1: makes a world a.

895
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,839
Speaker 3: Difference for you, and then Sablanca's shoulders relax and then

896
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 3: she can swing for you. You know, there's so many

897
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 3: more things than just the point it happens.

898
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 2: Yes, it's really.

899
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 1: It's a mental match against a mental match as well

900
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,800
Speaker 1: as well as hitting four hands and back ends. But anyway,

901
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 1: congrats to sable Anca, who had lost a couple of

902
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 1: finals so this year. So it was I'm sure when

903
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 1: she was down that set point to Coco thinking fucking hell,

904
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 1: am I going to lose this match?

905
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 2: As well? Were the Australian and Australia.

906
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 1: Lots. She's lost a lot of finals. She just lost

907
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 1: to Yeah stood too like so she's lost a lot

908
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:33,879
Speaker 1: of finals this year. Anyway, Yes, Naomi Osaka goes down.

909
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:35,840
Speaker 1: We talked about this a couple of weeks ago. It

910
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,359
Speaker 1: was the last week week, Yeah, most last week. How

911
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 1: it was a good move for her to go down

912
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 1: to a lower level. And you know, somebody I read

913
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:45,720
Speaker 1: a couple of things on the social media's and someone

914
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 1: was like, well, I mean, she can't win that tournament,

915
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 1: And I'm like, can you guys just do a funk off?

916
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, have you ever on a tournament win

917
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 3: Grand Slams? Winning a tournament period, like you know, you

918
00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 3: gotta every day. Yes, granted the level was much lower,

919
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,840
Speaker 3: but still like, this is somebody who's really struggled profoundly.

920
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, especially on the surface, like kudos, it's.

921
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 1: Still first tournament.

922
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 3: You can control who you're playing. Yeah, you know, maybe

923
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 3: I mean a streaky, amazing person.

924
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 1: And what people don't realize, Caitline, is the amount of

925
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 1: pressure that would have been on her shoulders to win

926
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:18,360
Speaker 1: that tournament. If you don't win this tournament, yeah you

927
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 1: shouldn't be playing anymore, That's right. And so she's like,

928
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 1: I've seen players go back to playing challenges like twenty

929
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 1: fives and fifties to get matches, you know that ranked

930
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 1: that are ranked outside of the top two hundred and

931
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 1: fifty now that were ranked inside the top twenty. It's like,

932
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:33,799
Speaker 1: it's really hard and it's a lot of pressure on you.

933
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 1: It's why a lot of them don't go down to

934
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 1: the lower levels because they don't want that even more

935
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 1: pressure on them to win the tournament. So I give

936
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 1: her a ton of credit for doing that. It's going

937
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 1: to give her a lot of Listen, we'll see how

938
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,320
Speaker 1: she does going in the next couple of weeks. I

939
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 1: wouldn't want to play her.

940
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:49,319
Speaker 2: No, I wouldn't want to play it either.

941
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:51,400
Speaker 3: And also, like you know, kind of the upside of

942
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 3: having a weak surface is it doesn't matter like you're

943
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 3: going to get some wins on a surface.

944
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 2: That you notably don't like.

945
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, in a part of the year that you notably

946
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 3: not you know, don't really show up to you, I'm like,

947
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 3: win when I lift. This gives her more bounds to

948
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 3: go back into the rest of the season with like

949
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 3: sort of a renewed headspace, like I'm off for it.

950
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 1: I did love that she put on the job application online.

951
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 1: Did you see that she said for those that are

952
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 1: I can't remember if herbade him, but it was basically

953
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 1: like she put hey for the haters, here's here, you know,

954
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 1: try this and she put a job application, so you

955
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 1: plan now, doesn't tell me to get a job. I've

956
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 1: got a job. Why don't you get a job? I

957
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 1: thought that was her love that.

958
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 3: I wish she would tell her Evolve Agency co co

959
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,799
Speaker 3: founder Nick Curious to get a job instead of.

960
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 1: Being you know what's funny. I got a photo from

961
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 1: my my best friend's daughter is going to university in Canberra?

962
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 2: Is he there?

963
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:50,439
Speaker 1: And he lives in Canberra, he's from there, and she's

964
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 1: going to university there doing a law degree. And because

965
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 1: she's smart, and Freya texted me and she goes, oh, hey,

966
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 1: look who I ran into at a bar. Of course,

967
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 1: Nick Carrious at a bus, wind sprints really getting self

968
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 1: prepared to play Wimbledon. I don't know what he's doing,

969
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 1: but anyway, just really quick. One thing we didn't talk

970
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 1: about was mir Andreva and Coco. Like that was Coco

971
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 1: has it over Mira. I agree the last couple of matches,

972
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 1: but Mira just went off the boil like I don't

973
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 1: know what happened. I don't know what happened with her.

974
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:27,320
Speaker 1: It was very strange.

975
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 2: It was like a pre this season. Mir andrev who

976
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 2: has she just.

977
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 1: Got the ships in that first set and it just

978
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 1: like was like, I'm out of here, man. It was weird.

979
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 1: Con she did not look happy in that situation.

980
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 2: I thought, that's also and she's still young.

981
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: Well.

982
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 2: I also swear about.

983
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 3: Sabalannka, which is like, you know, one of the things

984
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 3: that makes some of these players uh fun is that,

985
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 3: you know, there's a little bit of crazy.

986
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:52,760
Speaker 1: You know, a little bit of crazy.

987
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 2: You know.

988
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 3: In case anyone forgot, because mir Andreva has been playing

989
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 3: poised above her age.

990
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 1: The seventeen year olds down there.

991
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 3: For a couple of games, it's going to be a

992
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 3: complete mediac Listen, this is one of my favorite tiends

993
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 3: of the year. There is no more beautiful tennis court

994
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 3: than the for Italica.

995
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 1: Are you upset about what they've done to the court

996
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 1: the second court?

997
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,399
Speaker 3: Actually yes, because that should be the most beautiful court

998
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,839
Speaker 3: and you cannot put metal stands around it.

999
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's come on, what are you doing to I mean,

1000
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 1: obviously it used to get packed, so they wanted to

1001
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:25,320
Speaker 1: have the availability of having.

1002
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 2: Build another stadium.

1003
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:28,240
Speaker 1: You build another stadium, I agree.

1004
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:28,839
Speaker 2: See him? Come on right?

1005
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:33,280
Speaker 1: Yeah? Anyway, so Rome is going on it's about to start.

1006
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 2: We're going to see really excited.

1007
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 1: Of course, Sabalanca number one seed, Canon is in her

1008
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:40,839
Speaker 1: little section of the drawer there. Can we just give

1009
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 1: it up for Sophia Cannon back to she's thirty first

1010
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:47,439
Speaker 1: seed in Rome, which I imagine she's probably thirty two

1011
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 1: in the world or thirty one in the world. What

1012
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 1: a great effort over the last couple of years, because

1013
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 1: she's had a bloody hard time, and so I give

1014
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 1: her a lot of credit for being ranked and seeded.

1015
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 1: And she's going to be seated at the French and

1016
00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 1: I'm just really happy to se Ayla and Costure. First

1017
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,359
Speaker 1: round in Rome is going to be real fun to watch.

1018
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 3: We don't even talk about Murta Chaste because she had

1019
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 3: a lot to say about the randolation. Well, she was right, Sabka, Yeah,

1020
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 3: she was right.

1021
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 1: You can't take your first serve and then be like

1022
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:15,359
Speaker 1: it's raining, I can't serve now.

1023
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 2: I don't know. Drama follows.

1024
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 1: Marta is a little bit of a dec drama here

1025
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 1: is a bit of a DCU. But she was right

1026
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 1: in the circumstance.

1027
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 2: It was agreed.

1028
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 1: You can't just serve and go oh no, I can't

1029
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 1: say too bad.

1030
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 2: You hear, but I do think like just yeah, tap

1031
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 2: the bricks.

1032
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 1: But I remember you've got the bella Russian Ukrainian thing there.

1033
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 2: I'm here for one DQ and one di qu only

1034
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:40,800
Speaker 2: and that's daniel Collins.

1035
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 1: What about Danielle?

1036
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, what about it?

1037
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:44,839
Speaker 1: We haven't seen any hydro here of her.

1038
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 2: Danielle.

1039
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 1: I think she's collecting the cash all these tournaments and

1040
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 1: walking away.

1041
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 2: I'm that's gonna be my wild code. I'm calling it out.

1042
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 1: Room, no chance, maybe a random one is whatever happened

1043
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 1: to Bianca and rescue. I know she's had a ton

1044
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 1: of injuries and all that stuff. But your fellow Canadian

1045
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 1: is she just.

1046
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:04,839
Speaker 3: Won a doubles title in at that. I think same

1047
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 3: challenger when Nemeas.

1048
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 1: Was well there you go, look at that. You were

1049
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 1: so open champions going back to A one twenty five

1050
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 1: to get some confidents. Sometimes she can get it in

1051
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 1: doubles grade. She has a pretty good first round. So

1052
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,279
Speaker 1: she will play Donna Vekitch in the second round if

1053
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:17,879
Speaker 1: that's the case, and that might be an interesting little

1054
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:21,319
Speaker 1: matchup because Donna has not been playing well this year

1055
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 1: at all. Changed a coach at the start of this year.

1056
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 1: I don't know why she had a great year last year.

1057
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 1: I don't have that other coach just didn't want to

1058
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:31,879
Speaker 1: be involved. And PAMs Driver is still doing a little

1059
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:35,959
Speaker 1: bit with Donna but went to Sasha Bajan and really

1060
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 1: has only won a couple has not played well all year.

1061
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 1: So how long is that little coaching situation going to last?

1062
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 1: Kinwin chin win? I think you should say, because you

1063
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 1: get mad at me if I don't say it correctly,

1064
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 1: correct pronuncision. I know, but I have this fight with

1065
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 1: my fellow some of my fellow commentators ARSI is in particular. No,

1066
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 1: I tell you what the problem is. Caitlin on the

1067
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 1: wt website, she says kinwin. Do you know this? Have

1068
00:46:58,520 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 1: you looked at her thing?

1069
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 3: Yes? She has decided that you can call her chin win,

1070
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 3: kinwin or Anna, And it's like, no, guys, just go

1071
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 3: with your correct pronunc You should have n.

1072
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 1: I call her chin win, thank you, because I know

1073
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 1: that's the correct way to say it in Chinese. But

1074
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:13,839
Speaker 1: when you're working with someone who refuses to call them

1075
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 1: chin win and calls them kin win. Because the WTA website.

1076
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:19,880
Speaker 2: It's a hard the WTO website.

1077
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 1: I know, but this is the these are the arguments

1078
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 1: I have in my ESPN Green role.

1079
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:26,320
Speaker 2: I'm glad that, by the way, but I'm.

1080
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:27,799
Speaker 1: Going with gin win because that's how you say it.

1081
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 1: So that's gonna be interesting. We'll see how Coco, you know,

1082
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 1: turns it up again. She has a pretty good draw.

1083
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 1: She'll probably play either Benchic or Lynette in like the

1084
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:40,360
Speaker 1: round of thirty two. But I like her draw a lot.

1085
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 1: A player that's back, Amanda Anissa Mova back from a

1086
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 1: bit of injury, so we'll see how she does in

1087
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 1: this tournament. And a Navarro has been a play that

1088
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:49,439
Speaker 1: has not played well.

1089
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:51,720
Speaker 3: She had such a great year last year that following

1090
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 3: it up this year I think was always going to

1091
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 3: be a tough order. Yeah, and you're right, she's really

1092
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 3: looked like she's missed a step.

1093
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 1: Nice. You know, it's nice to see vondrous over back

1094
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 1: in the tournament in Rome. Yeah. Man, that girl has

1095
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 1: just had no luck with her injuries. Test terrible and

1096
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 1: so well. Well, we'll see, of course, mere Andreva, We'll

1097
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 1: see how she fares this week. I think maybe it's.

1098
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:17,319
Speaker 3: The biggest question mark for realm is eager. It's her

1099
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 3: tournament under normal circumstances.

1100
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:21,839
Speaker 1: It is her tournament without question. I mean, she won

1101
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,879
Speaker 1: a final there against one of the biggest service we've

1102
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 1: ever had in a women's game, Caroline Pushkoba. Oh and

1103
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 1: oh in a final.

1104
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 2: They should have made him play a third set.

1105
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:36,399
Speaker 1: You know what, we decided we're going to do best

1106
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 1: of five and we're starting it right now. Oh and

1107
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 1: to be Carolina, I mean, Carolina made the final, winning

1108
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 1: a lot of matches, hitting the ball. Well. I just

1109
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:49,839
Speaker 1: want people to know I was not coaching her at

1110
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 1: the time, because there's no effing way I would let

1111
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 1: my player loose and I would be like, you were

1112
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:56,360
Speaker 1: hitting under arm, you were doing whatever you need to

1113
00:48:56,400 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 1: do win a game. Again. Interestingly, Caitlin in the little

1114
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:05,319
Speaker 1: round of thirty two in Rome, is potential that your

1115
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 1: girl animal will play against Eager Let's go, So that

1116
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:12,400
Speaker 1: will be an interesting situation.

1117
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 2: As good as you Lena as Yeah.

1118
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 1: And Switzerlina is down that section of the drawer who's

1119
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 1: also had a great year sam Sonova, So I'm excited.

1120
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 1: This is this is This section of the draw for

1121
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 1: EGA is pretty good, although Naomi Osaka is down that

1122
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:31,360
Speaker 1: section of the draw too and could play Bodoza in

1123
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 1: the second round, so we'll see. Let's go parla anyway,

1124
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 1: all right, Well, you've got a lot to get to

1125
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 1: when it comes to Rome next week, and of course

1126
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:41,760
Speaker 1: the French Open is around the corner and Max, yeah, etcetera.

1127
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 1: Taking the French Sadly, I will not be there. I'm

1128
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 1: a little bummed about it. I'm not gonna lie. Yeah,

1129
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:50,280
Speaker 1: but we will be here for you for the French Open.

1130
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 1: But in the meantime, thanks for joining us today, Katelin.

1131
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 1: Anything else you want to say, No, I'm just so excited.

1132
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 1: This is like the part of the season.

1133
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:56,720
Speaker 2: You love business.

1134
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:57,279
Speaker 1: I do love.

1135
00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 2: I love the whole thing is I love forgetting Yeah,

1136
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 2: I love.

1137
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 1: Of waking up. I'm not an early riser, as you know, Caitlyn,

1138
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:07,400
Speaker 1: so for me to get up early and watch these matches,

1139
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 1: that's how much I love tennis.

1140
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 2: I love watching tennis in the morning and then playing

1141
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 2: tennis in the afternoon. It's the best.

1142
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 1: Well, Caitlin, we have to play a little tennis because

1143
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 1: I got invited back to play in the old farts

1144
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 1: at Wimbledon.

1145
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 2: So if you will deem to play tennis with me.

1146
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:24,359
Speaker 1: I have not hit a ball in a while, and

1147
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 1: so I need to start, all right. Wonderful. On that note,

1148
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 1: preparation for Wimbledon starts, for Stubbs Time starts today, and

1149
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 1: the French Open two weeks away. Don't wait, all right, guys,

1150
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 1: Thanks for Johnny to say okay bye,