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Speaker 2: Look at us now, tip to tip. This is our life,

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Speaker 2: this is our passion. That's the spirit we bring to

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Speaker 2: this show. I'm Thomas, I'm Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 1: This this Morning Combat.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, all right, you feel a baby boom boom

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Speaker 2: saying right now, you're looking at us. Friday, January twenty seven,

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Speaker 2: The Kings of Combat in the year twenty twenty three, London,

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Speaker 2: calling folks a little bit more than a week away.

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Speaker 2: This is Morning Combat. You stumbled into the American alpha

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Speaker 2: right here the BBC with that BDE Brian Campbell. I

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Speaker 2: of people who have never fought Luke Thomas.

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Speaker 1: Of people who don't know shit, this guy knows a little. Hi,

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Speaker 1: Brian Campbell, thank you for that very generous intro, and

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Speaker 1: by generous I mean backhanded ends yet somehow finding another

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Speaker 1: way to determine that you are the a side of this,

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Speaker 1: even if it's not even really a point of conversation whatsoever.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we you know, we had a nice London planning

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Speaker 2: show and you were like you interrupted me, Like, BC,

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Speaker 2: you are not the A side of this operation, all right.

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Speaker 1: But the thing is there. It's not that there is

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Speaker 2: That's that's fair. That's fair, Luke. It takes two to

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Speaker 2: here award winning style. We got a great Friday show

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Speaker 2: that's going to set the stage for like the lone

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Speaker 2: We'll keep ourselves accountable because that's what we do. Mikey

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Speaker 2: Moore Miles CBS Sports on the Ones and Tuesdays Friday,

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Speaker 2: Luke Thomas H Look, people may be sick of us

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Speaker 2: saying this, But Wednesday, February eighth, something BIG's gonna happen

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Speaker 2: and we're going to be in the center of it.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I know what you're talking about. February eighth. We're

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Also, big tennis matches happen there like it goes

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Speaker 2: Look, you're a world traveler. I'm largely not. You know

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Speaker 2: I will tell you this, luke La is still my

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Speaker 2: if you can't make it live, we're gonna air that

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Speaker 2: broadcast two days later in our Friday, February tenth, regular

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Speaker 2: I really that is all right, all right, Luke. Earlier

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Speaker 1: Anything else? Do you not do that trick?

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Speaker 1: So when you're on the road and you're watching pornography

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Speaker 2: I got a lot of material banged. All right, enough

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Speaker 2: of this conversation, Luke, Let's continue it on anything else

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Speaker 1: Yes, And also this is kind of for us the

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Speaker 1: Well, if you can't beat this version of Tony, I

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Speaker 1: the that's the more accurate way to describe it. He

431
00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:57,800
Speaker 1: he doesn't have much of a future in the sport, then,

432
00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:00,680
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's the that's the reality of this.

433
00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:02,359
Speaker 1: So your point might be a little bit different, Like

434
00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:04,280
Speaker 1: let's say he gets the win but kind of looks languid,

435
00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:06,800
Speaker 1: then he's on borrowed time. Anyway. I mean, the whole

436
00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:09,080
Speaker 1: point of this is I'm really of the belief that

437
00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:11,359
Speaker 1: Connor may or may not even look close to what

438
00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:14,399
Speaker 1: he looked like before. But that there's really no reason

439
00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:18,119
Speaker 1: that whatever state Connor is in, unless it's like super compromise,

440
00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:20,040
Speaker 1: which does not seem to be on the table at all.

441
00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:23,480
Speaker 1: Unless it's that he should not lose this fight, he

442
00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:25,639
Speaker 1: should not lose this fight. This is very much a

443
00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:28,919
Speaker 1: fight to promote his return, to promote something else, to

444
00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:31,320
Speaker 1: get him going, and everything else in there. That's the

445
00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:33,560
Speaker 1: sole purpose of this contest. So if you can't look

446
00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:36,320
Speaker 1: right in that, I mean, you're asking if it's a

447
00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:38,879
Speaker 1: trap fight. I think if Connor has done what he

448
00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:42,439
Speaker 1: has supposed to do, if he is basically recovered, and

449
00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:45,320
Speaker 1: he basically trained the way that you know more or

450
00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:48,520
Speaker 1: less a high level pro, should he's gonna win one

451
00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:51,280
Speaker 1: way or the other. It would it would take to

452
00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:53,280
Speaker 1: answer the question in the shortest way possible, I would

453
00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:56,280
Speaker 1: say this, it would take a serious problem or an

454
00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:59,359
Speaker 1: epic collapse, which I guess is on the table, but unlikely.

455
00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:02,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's still gonna have to answer to the lengthy

456
00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:05,240
Speaker 2: time off, to the injury which was severe, and to

457
00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,040
Speaker 2: all that was lost in this evolution for him, which

458
00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,960
Speaker 2: never really happened. He showed certain signs of a potential

459
00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:13,840
Speaker 2: evolution against Serroni, but again it's too quick of a

460
00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,880
Speaker 2: sample to really know how much of that was fool's gold.

461
00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,320
Speaker 2: I mean, look great, I wanted to believe, but let's

462
00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:21,600
Speaker 2: clean up some of the issues surround this. We do

463
00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:25,440
Speaker 2: have the tweet from from Tony Ferguson which is essentially

464
00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:27,520
Speaker 2: the info that we're going off of that this white

465
00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:29,920
Speaker 2: is happening. And here's what Tony said on Twitter. I've

466
00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:32,000
Speaker 2: been asked to coach on tough against old fat head

467
00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,480
Speaker 2: or any one of my choosing if that cake eat

468
00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:39,520
Speaker 2: and some dish wouldn't show Mac what a v always

469
00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:43,280
Speaker 2: ready anytime anywhere, choose you mc knacker. A lot of

470
00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:46,720
Speaker 2: other you know, emoji type things there from Tony. So

471
00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,800
Speaker 2: that is that, Luke, let's go to the tough factor now,

472
00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:52,679
Speaker 2: full disclosure, you don't care about tough at all. I

473
00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,680
Speaker 2: don't care unless there's a major gimmick pulling me back in.

474
00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:59,760
Speaker 2: Those gimmicks at times have included heavyweights with Kimbo, which

475
00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:02,240
Speaker 2: was a really fun season he had was shot in rampage.

476
00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:06,439
Speaker 2: I came back for the strawweights because specifically the angle

477
00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:08,840
Speaker 2: was we may have a new rousey here with Noma Unis.

478
00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,040
Speaker 2: It's a new division, a new class of people. I

479
00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:13,720
Speaker 2: watched that one, Luke. I may have come back for

480
00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,399
Speaker 2: an episode or two when they put the title on

481
00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,399
Speaker 2: the line when the flyweight men were there, But you know,

482
00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:22,000
Speaker 2: I'm pretty much like, I'm over this, not that I

483
00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,480
Speaker 2: not that, I not that, I'm you know, picketing and

484
00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:26,879
Speaker 2: saying the UFC should If Dana thinks that this is

485
00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,119
Speaker 2: just a legacy thing and he wants to fight to

486
00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:32,080
Speaker 2: keep it going, go for it. ESPN Plus would be,

487
00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:34,160
Speaker 2: you know, is the perfect home for that. But I'm

488
00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:37,679
Speaker 2: not gonna lie the idea of inserting McGregor back into

489
00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:42,160
Speaker 2: this reality cocoon that they go into this reality show

490
00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:45,440
Speaker 2: cocoon in the house and the gym. I'm kind of interested, Luke,

491
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,480
Speaker 2: because his mind is seemingly all over the place based

492
00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:50,919
Speaker 2: on the accusations and the incidents that keep popping up.

493
00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:54,560
Speaker 2: He's gonna do exactly what he's expected to, I believe,

494
00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:58,000
Speaker 2: which is not resurrect but give that show a shot

495
00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,240
Speaker 2: in the arm for casual fans to want to go,

496
00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:02,720
Speaker 2: oh shit, McGregor's back. Let's you know, let's tune in,

497
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 2: let's see this. And I think because he's been so

498
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,639
Speaker 2: all over the place since that last Parier fight. In

499
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:11,520
Speaker 2: terms of the glimpses he gives us publicly, I think

500
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:14,679
Speaker 2: that fuels a few things. My interest on an almost

501
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:18,239
Speaker 2: morbid level of watching it, mixed with the idea of

502
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:22,040
Speaker 2: can inserting him back into the fight world on this

503
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,440
Speaker 2: immersive level where there's gonna be trash talk, where there's

504
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 2: going to be, like you said, coaching and some like

505
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:28,479
Speaker 2: the real fighter in him is going to be challenged

506
00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:30,720
Speaker 2: and come out again. I wonder if that's exactly what

507
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 2: he needs to create whatever is the best available version

508
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,240
Speaker 2: of him left at this point with all the miles,

509
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:40,200
Speaker 2: injuries and everything added on. So I actually don't hate that, Luke.

510
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:42,920
Speaker 2: Do you think it'll actually make a dent ratings wise though?

511
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 2: I think I think it will. How could it not.

512
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,000
Speaker 2: It's not his own weekend show.

513
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:49,600
Speaker 1: It'll make a dent. It'll make a dentu Connor mcgre

514
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,000
Speaker 1: and it's on ESPN Plus, so you know whatever the

515
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:56,000
Speaker 1: metric is in terms of how they measure views and

516
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,960
Speaker 1: and and whatnot. Yes, of course, adding McGregor and adding

517
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:00,879
Speaker 1: Tony probably will help a little bit too, and then

518
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 1: the combination of them together, Yes, that's fine. I mean,

519
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 1: there's just a zero percent chance I'm gonna watch. And

520
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:08,199
Speaker 1: it's not even like a protest or like I'm not

521
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 1: like it's power slap. It's just it is boring. I

522
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 1: don't care. It doesn't do anything for me. I have

523
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 1: twenty four hours in a day. I just cannot imagine

524
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 1: for what my priorities are spending any time watching that.

525
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,239
Speaker 1: But yes, certainly mean, there's just no denying, and if

526
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 1: you want to watch it out there by all means

527
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:26,159
Speaker 1: watch it. I'm not gonna get in the way. I'm

528
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,080
Speaker 1: not gonna do a power slap thing or say you

529
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 1: shouldn't watch it. But it is not for me. I

530
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 1: couldn't imagine sitting down to watch it.

531
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 2: I think the only miss is that any feel of

532
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 2: like a real rivalry between them, it's gonna feel a

533
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,640
Speaker 2: little forced. I feel like, right like, you know, Tony

534
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 2: might get.

535
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 1: Me, especially from Tony, right like especially from Tony where

536
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 1: it's like all the things he threatens to do in

537
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,720
Speaker 1: a fight. It's like, yeah, I do think he'll be

538
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:51,879
Speaker 1: able to do some of that. But it's not like

539
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 1: the guy from twenty sixteen or something, twenty seventeen whatever.

540
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:56,879
Speaker 1: I'm got to go back and look at his peak, ye,

541
00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,320
Speaker 1: or but you know, when he was out there just

542
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 1: absolutely dominating and crushing people, We're past that now and

543
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:06,920
Speaker 1: so I think some of that might get in the way.

544
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:08,480
Speaker 1: But honestly, if you're a Tony fan of you're a

545
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 1: Connor fan, you'll probably be really really happy to see this.

546
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think it'll be. This will be certainly

547
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 1: on the ESPN plus there. I don't know how many

548
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,399
Speaker 1: they've done on that, and maybe one season this one

549
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,159
Speaker 1: will do a lot better than the last one of that.

550
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:20,160
Speaker 1: I can be quite confident.

551
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree in terms of you know, look, you

552
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 2: give Connor this close up, I think it means UFC

553
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 2: believes and you give him this level of matchmaking. I

554
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:29,720
Speaker 2: think it believes UFC believes that they want to still

555
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 2: do monster things with them, and they believe he can

556
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,080
Speaker 2: at least pull it off to show up to the dance.

557
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,159
Speaker 2: So let's say he wins this, Luke, and there is

558
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,959
Speaker 2: a fork in the road matchmaking wise, in terms of

559
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:43,160
Speaker 2: is Connor going the direction of Nate trilogy Jorge cash

560
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 2: out or is he going the other way, which is

561
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 2: them using a highlight reel finish potentially mixed with the

562
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 2: idea of Connor's just a big enough start and a

563
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,879
Speaker 2: two division champion. Hey, we can cut a lot of

564
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 2: people in the line of the title, pass in multiple

565
00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 2: divisions and just blow shit up. I mean look at it, like,

566
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,119
Speaker 2: is there fear in your eyes that he blows away

567
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:07,119
Speaker 2: Tony in round one and then he's being groomed to

568
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 2: fight Islam Mache for the walterweight title.

569
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 1: Sure? Sure, I mean I don't have Fear would not

570
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 1: be the right way to describe how I feel about it.

571
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 1: Inevitability might be a better one, you know what I mean? Like,

572
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,399
Speaker 1: if Thanos gets the Infinity Stones, he's gonna snap. I mean,

573
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 1: that's sort of how I look at it, right, Like

574
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 1: if he gets a dominant crazy win, cowboy ask or

575
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 1: something some kind of spectacular ko, They're simply no denying.

576
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 1: They're probably gonna give him either a walterweight shot or

577
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,680
Speaker 1: a lightweight shot, whateveryone makes the most sense at that point.

578
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:40,120
Speaker 1: Absolutely not a doubt in my mind.

579
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,439
Speaker 2: That's what they do. Luke, That's what they do, and

580
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 2: you know what it.

581
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,440
Speaker 1: Works, Just go ahead and get ready for you know

582
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like, go act surprised. If you don't

583
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 1: like it, you can say as much.

584
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:54,680
Speaker 2: That's fine, but be honest, I'm gonna be more upset

585
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 2: if if Edwards beats Usman and then they're grooming Jorge

586
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 2: for that title shot. I'd be more upset than that

587
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,160
Speaker 2: than even Connor going for a third title against Maje

588
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:05,119
Speaker 2: if I really would, I'm.

589
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 1: Serious, Yeah, I would actually be much more upset with that.

590
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 1: But yes, like, just just get ready because if he

591
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 1: goes in there and blows and again if they make

592
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 1: the fight, blah blah blah. But if he gets to

593
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,640
Speaker 1: that point, they're one going to fast track him like inevitable.

594
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 2: Luke, my buddy over there at MMAI MMA Analytics on Twitter,

595
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:27,359
Speaker 2: who's putting out that multi part series on MMA management

596
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 2: and the connection to UFC fighters and the connection to

597
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 2: data and all that. That's been very eye opening, uh,

598
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:36,360
Speaker 2: you know, looking at both the Contender series set up

599
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 2: Jason House and and now onto onto the regional promotions

600
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 2: that have landed on fight Pass. I know, push anyone

601
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 2: to check that out. But Luke, Tony and Connor getting

602
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,879
Speaker 2: joined up for this and getting the reality show treatment,

603
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 2: these are two paradigm products. Am I am I right

604
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:52,679
Speaker 2: or wrong on that? This is a big win for

605
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 2: Audio Tar and Company.

606
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,680
Speaker 1: Right, I thought this Tony both with Parandem. I thought

607
00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 1: Tony was with Gary V.

608
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 2: WHOA I was checking in with you on that. I

609
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 2: don't follow that those relationships is I mean, that's something

610
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 2: like I care about this whole manager connection now based

611
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,199
Speaker 2: on certain things that could mean in the larger picture.

612
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 2: But I tend not to get as hyped up in

613
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 2: terms of who's repping who Luke unless they've joined one

614
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 2: of the super teams.

615
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,679
Speaker 1: So he left Paradigm to join with Balangie.

616
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 2: So that certainly removes that from the discussion. But you know,

617
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,679
Speaker 2: either way, it's it's it's gonna hit big man. Is

618
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,359
Speaker 2: that an International Fight Week main event? Is that what

619
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 2: we're doing here?

620
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 1: It's Connor McGregor, bro Do I need to tell you that. Okay,

621
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 1: it's Connor McGregor.

622
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you very much.

623
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 1: All Right.

624
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 2: Look, that's topic one in the books of some coming attractions.

625
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 2: How about some potential other coming attractions on topic two

626
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 2: surrounding one of the most dangerous men in the game today,

627
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 2: Alex Pereira Potan as they call him Luke. Okay, uh,

628
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 2: he's your Middleway champion. After stopping Israel Outasagnia in round five.

629
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 2: I don't know are we building to that or what

630
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 2: Alex talked to MMA fighting about a potential may return

631
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 2: and here are the quotes may would be perfect. I

632
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 2: see these two guys. Adasanya was a dominant champion, so

633
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 2: he has the preference to be competing for the belt again.

634
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 2: But if he doesn't want that, it will be Whittaker.

635
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 2: I don't think they'll put someone else in other than Whittaker.

636
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 2: He already said his game doesn't match well without a Sonya,

637
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 2: but would be a good fight with me, So I'll

638
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 2: be ready for both. I won't do anything to hurt

639
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 2: out of Sonya's plans and avoid this fight. If that's

640
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 2: what he wants, will fight. If for some reason he

641
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 2: doesn't want to fight me, that makes no difference to me.

642
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 2: It'll be Whittaker instead. And if Whittaker doesn't want it,

643
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 2: there are several others that do end quote. Now look

644
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 2: on the idea of several others. We'll get to Jamal

645
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 2: Hill in a second. But in terms of Poeton coming

646
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 2: back making that first title defense, do you believe the

647
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 2: UFC O Zautasanya that right of first refusal on the

648
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 2: immediate rematch because of the reign he had, the history

649
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 2: between them, or is it better business practice to let

650
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 2: Izzy recover on his own time and you have an

651
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 2: all time great under your roster and Robert Whitaker who

652
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 2: just as well could be champion if they do this.

653
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say it depends on a couple of things.

654
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 1: One is what they like. What kind of vision do

655
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 1: they have for the future of this division? And who

656
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 1: do they see on top of it? What kind of

657
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:19,479
Speaker 1: a market do they want a massage? Do they want

658
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 1: a massage the Australian Oceanic market and therefore he give

659
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 1: Robert Whittaker a chance again or whatever? Like, There's lots

660
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 1: of ways they could be looking at that. And I'll

661
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 1: say this, no one like automatically deserves a rematch. There's

662
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:34,480
Speaker 1: no rules around this. Like deserving is you know which

663
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 1: once you reach some kind of threshold and now they're obligated.

664
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 1: They're not obligated to Izzy. But all I would say

665
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 1: is to the extent that anyone has a case, he does. Right,

666
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 1: We're talking about a guy who was a long ragning

667
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 1: champion who in that weight class. That was his first defeat.

668
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 1: Quite literally, he was winning that fight handily up until

669
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 1: he just wasn't he was. You know, they have history together,

670
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 1: he'd be ready, like he doesn't need time off. If anyone,

671
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 1: if anyone is deserving of that opportunity, it is most

672
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 1: certainly him. I don't know whether he wants it. I've

673
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 1: not spoken to him. I don't know where his head

674
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,719
Speaker 1: is at. Seems like he probably would, and the USC's

675
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 1: in a great position because if he doesn't, they can

676
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 1: go right to Whittaker, and I think that's a much

677
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 1: to stylistically. Stylistically, that's a tougher fight for a Panta.

678
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 1: So it's a lot of fun in either direction, it really,

679
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 1: you know, the case for Izzy is not hard to make.

680
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 1: It's just a question of what everybody wants here, and

681
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 1: that part remains to be seen.

682
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 2: Doesn't it? Outside of Izzy, and I don't know his

683
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 2: attitude or fun and I guess I know is his attitude,

684
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 2: he'll be right back in and wanting this fight. I

685
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 2: thought he said the right things after the loss, particularly

686
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 2: to Arie Hawani and Nima fighting, even if some people

687
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 2: thought he he sounded delusional. You know, I get I

688
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 2: get that label, but I think overall I got where

689
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 2: he's at. I think he's in a good place. So

690
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 2: does this not come down to what the UFC believes

691
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 2: could be the bigger payoff in the long run immediately,

692
00:31:56,600 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 2: which is potentially either a fourth fight here between Audasnia

693
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 2: or if you do the Winnaker fight, which would be

694
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 2: big enough. Whittaker versus the champion right now would be

695
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 2: big enough. But if Whittaker wins that, now you're making

696
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 2: the idea of auDA Sonia versus Whittaker three, which as

697
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 2: we speak right now, Luke, it's not it's not like

698
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 2: overly necessary. You know, I wouldn't hate it. I'm a

699
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 2: big Whittaker guy.

700
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 1: I love it.

701
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 2: There's still a lot of history at stick between them.

702
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 2: The second one was competitive and if not even disputed

703
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 2: to some level on the scoring. But if that's done

704
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 2: with Whittaker as the champion, do that trilogy as like

705
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 2: legendary and massive and all those things. How much is

706
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 2: the UFC thinking about exactly that equation, like the idea

707
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 2: that Poeton versus auDA Sonia three, four five, it's always

708
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 2: gonna be there anyway, So do we f around and

709
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 2: try to see if if Whittaker can capitalize right now

710
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 2: and make that fight even bigger than any fight involving

711
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 2: Pereira could be.

712
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 1: Don't know. I don't know how big that fight would

713
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 1: be from a pay per view person respective, the truth

714
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 1: of how big it would be would be only to

715
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 1: put it somewhere in Australia or New Zealand and to

716
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 1: see how big it does at the gate or what

717
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 1: kind of hold it has on that particular market. It

718
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 1: would do well in pay per view obviously, And I

719
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 1: realize what you're talking about something a little bit more significant,

720
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 1: which is middleweight history, trilogy history. You know, that's sort

721
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 1: of a thing, And yeah, there would be something lost there.

722
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 1: I don't think that they're really I don't know that

723
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 1: they're thinking of it in these kinds of terms. You're

724
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 1: right that they have options either way. So if Izzy

725
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 1: takes it and win or lose, Rob gets the winner

726
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 1: of that, which means you can get Rob versus Alex

727
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 1: Fresh matchup, or you can get the trilogy after that point,

728
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 1: which is kind of interesting, or you can do it.

729
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it wouldn't mean as much if Robert doesn't

730
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 2: have the belt. It would mean a lot more if

731
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 2: he did. That's the distinction there.

732
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 1: Look, you know, it would be it would be different

733
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 1: in that way that now the roles would be reversed.

734
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 1: And you know, there's a lot that you could be

735
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 1: said for that that's true. But you're asking if they're

736
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 1: like trying to coordinate or you know, kind of steer

737
00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 1: a little bit and see what happens, but kind of

738
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 1: steer in that direction. I don't know that they're steering

739
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 1: in that direction, and I tend to think that, Like, again,

740
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 1: I don't know what the champion's thinking, but just having

741
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 1: seen the decisions he's made previously, I would imagine he

742
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 1: would want to fight Paeda next, whether it's for the

743
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 1: title or not. Like that is just the guy that

744
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 1: that the you know, you could say what you want

745
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 1: about is he he didn't run from any contender.

746
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:18,879
Speaker 2: Dude wants, he wants.

747
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 1: He always wants to smoke, and so for that reason,

748
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 1: I think that in the end, they're just going to

749
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 1: put put it up there and then we'll see what

750
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:25,919
Speaker 1: happens from there.

751
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 2: Look, the only thing you could ever say about Atasania

752
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 2: that's largely negative, and I think even that is subjective

753
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 2: is the whole idea of once he's got somebody figured out,

754
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 2: he may not go for the finish as willingly or

755
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 2: recklessly as the mainstream hardcore fan would want.

756
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:42,399
Speaker 1: Him to case.

757
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 2: And that's not even fully true. And I know, but

758
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 2: I'm saying, even if that is true in your eyes,

759
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,359
Speaker 2: based on your belief set, you're still like, so what

760
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 2: that that says nothing about you know, his toughness, his

761
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 2: willingness to fight the best all that. It doesn't, it

762
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 2: really does.

763
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 1: It's also it's also this like having now seen some

764
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 1: fighters retire and see what they do afterwards. Yes, let

765
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 1: me just tell you something. Isy's style is going to

766
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 1: age very well when he's done fighting. It looks to

767
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 1: me like he's gonna have most of his faculties intact,

768
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:12,319
Speaker 1: and then you're gonna see it's like, Wow, he won

769
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 1: all those titles, he made all that money, he beat

770
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 1: all those guys, and he still has his brain health.

771
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 1: Like the full judgment of how he fights can't even

772
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:25,439
Speaker 1: be rendered until he is forty five. And then fifty five,

773
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 1: Let's see how he looks then. And I've got a

774
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 1: feeling he's gonna look a lot better than people who

775
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 1: fought in a style that maybe the fans of today

776
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:35,800
Speaker 1: loved much more. But they're not gonna have shit to

777
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 1: show for it like he is when he's at that age.

778
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 1: So I just want to point that out there.

779
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 2: Looks like take that attitude of power, slab where it belongs.

780
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 2: Look quickly before we bring in the Jamal hillside of this.

781
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 2: Some things are connected right now. That Brazil card, which

782
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 2: was the return and you know, first time in three

783
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 2: years UFC two eighty three was impact we find out

784
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,880
Speaker 2: because of the inflated ticket prices. Then we saw that

785
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,879
Speaker 2: play out in real time when the upcoming UFC lung

786
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:04,359
Speaker 2: in pay per view tickets get were released and apparently, Luke,

787
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 2: it's reported that the worst seat in the house is

788
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 2: four what was it, like four hundred and ninety seven

789
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,280
Speaker 2: dollars American or something like that, something, you know, almost

790
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 2: almost five hundred, you know, with the ringside seats being

791
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 2: like the seven eight thousand. Now, look in terms of

792
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,399
Speaker 2: the highest end of boxing, they do that all the time.

793
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 2: That's why the biggest fights in the game, in boxing

794
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 2: in particular end up in Vegas because they can charge

795
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 2: exorbitant prices, almost super Bowl level prices. So I'm not

796
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 2: making I'm not pointing the finger in that regard, but

797
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 2: I'm trying to frame this news in a larger sense,

798
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,840
Speaker 2: we all agree in John Nash and those type of

799
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 2: guys have done great at kind of teaching us if

800
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 2: we didn't know better, that the ESPN deal changed the

801
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 2: UFC's true mission when it comes to booking fights not

802
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 2: so much about the big pay per view or consistently

803
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 2: big pay per views, but more about filling out the

804
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 2: requirements of the ridiculous contract to get you know, their

805
00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 2: their main operating money from ESPN and just be consistent

806
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 2: across the board. But how much is the local gate

807
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:06,839
Speaker 2: the idea? So when we did talk about that, well, hey,

808
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 2: that's you know, to be fair, Perera against Atasanya or

809
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 2: Whitaker is big for the Oceanic region if they decided

810
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 2: to go there. How much do you think the focus

811
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 2: is now, because it's been taking off building up pay

812
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 2: per views to extreme levels, is focused more on like

813
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:24,880
Speaker 2: the city and you know they're going to London and

814
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 2: doing monster gates and now charging a shit ton. Maybe

815
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 2: this is more the direction on how they maximize their

816
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 2: profits even more aggressively, right, I mean that seems to

817
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 2: be it, you know, booking guys at home like Volkanovsky

818
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 2: against mahachevn Perth, right, you know, really trying to commit

819
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 2: to that. Do you see any correlation there?

820
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,879
Speaker 1: Maybe some. I think partly they wanted to get out

821
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 1: of the United States now that some of the travel

822
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 1: restrictions post pandemic or whatever state we're in have been

823
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 1: largely dropped. I think that's a big part of it,

824
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 1: especially in markets that have not been nurtured as well

825
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 1: as they would have hoped in the last couple of years.

826
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:04,800
Speaker 1: But I just think in terms of their overall revenue,

827
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 1: you know, even if they were even in these exorbitant prices,

828
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 1: the gate is not a huge chunk of it. I

829
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 1: don't really think like, oh, let's just see if we

830
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 1: can maximize money from the gate, because this is you know,

831
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 1: not that it's not important, it's very important, but as

832
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 1: like a major chief revenue driver, I don't think it

833
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 1: does that. I just think ticketing prices in general, whether

834
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 1: it's sporting or music events have gone through the roof,

835
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:30,359
Speaker 1: and they can sell at these prices and then they, yes,

836
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 1: they they squeeze out a lot of like the true

837
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 1: Died in the Wool fight fans. But if people are

838
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,400
Speaker 1: going to pay for it, why is the UFC not

839
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 1: going to charge it. They're going to charge it now

840
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:41,359
Speaker 1: to your point. In Brazil it didn't so much work.

841
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 1: Let's see what happens in London. You know, if they

842
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 1: people listen, if they can charge asshole prices and then

843
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 1: assholes pay for it, I don't know what to tell you,

844
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 1: like we get squeezed out, But that's the business world.

845
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 2: And that's in Look. UFC is very good at business

846
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 2: and endeavor, you know, driving the ship as well, so

847
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,040
Speaker 2: they're gonna they've already shown they are going to and

848
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 2: you know, try to max out every single category and

849
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 2: get everything possible. But man, I don't know what that

850
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 2: does long term. I guess we'll have to wait and see.

851
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 2: But you know, you don't love it for the common fan.

852
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 2: But that's business, Luke, at the end of the day.

853
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 2: And all right, well here's potential big business. Before we

854
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 2: get to the quote here, Luke, I do want to

855
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,359
Speaker 2: throw to the video. So let's set the stage here.

856
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 2: UFC two eighty three Glover to Shera loses to Jamal Hill.

857
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 2: We're set up to do the announcements. It's the end

858
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 2: of the fight and Poton's in the corner, of course

859
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 2: of Pejeda I'm sorry of Glover. And here's a little

860
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,360
Speaker 2: look at the stair down and the up and down,

861
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:43,439
Speaker 2: full profile look that Peera gave to him, which you know, Luke,

862
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 2: in some ways that's just too tough. Alpha's in the

863
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 2: cage at the same time, it's bound to happen, but

864
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 2: you know there is connections here with Glover, who's like

865
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:54,439
Speaker 2: a father figure to Pereira coach all that. Here's what

866
00:39:54,560 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 2: Poeton said commenting on Jamal Hill's Instagram. I heard is injured?

867
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 2: What about knocking me out? Uh So. Hill's response on

868
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 2: Aeriel Hawani show was shit, what's popping? Like? We can

869
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 2: get that crack and if he wants to come on

870
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,840
Speaker 2: up and try his luck with that shit, come on me.

871
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 2: I'm not scared of nobody. I take the challenge very seriously.

872
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 2: It gives me incentive to fuck you up. I think

873
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 2: that he That's what he was mentioning. It was an

874
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 2: old clip. I think. I was with James Lynch and

875
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:28,799
Speaker 2: I was asked about a fight between us and I said,

876
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 2: I think I knock him out, you know what I mean?

877
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:32,479
Speaker 2: And I do. I mean, I ain't like I didn't

878
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:34,760
Speaker 2: say that shit. I said that shit if he feels

879
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,359
Speaker 2: some type of way about it, then show me. I'm

880
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 2: in the show me business. Now, Luke Poton like has

881
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 2: two all time great middleweights in front of him that

882
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:48,360
Speaker 2: he has to fight. But there is a storyline connection.

883
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 2: They just eyed each other. We got quotes back and forth.

884
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:56,320
Speaker 2: Now is there any way this is actually in conversation

885
00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:00,399
Speaker 2: to do yet another champion versus champion one but one

886
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:02,359
Speaker 2: that would be all action and one that I think

887
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 2: you could talk yourself into, right, you.

888
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 1: Could talk yourself into it. I don't know. I think

889
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 1: people are somewhat. I mean, here's the thing about Alex Paneda,

890
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,760
Speaker 1: Like he beat Izzy and that was pretty incredible because

891
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 1: no other middleweight could do it without multiple tries. So

892
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 1: you can't take it away from him. But he does

893
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 1: have a very underdeveloped MMA game number one, like the

894
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 1: idea that he's just gonna go up there. Maybe he

895
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:22,800
Speaker 1: could be Jamal Hill because of the particular style matchup.

896
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 1: I'll talk about that in just a second. But this

897
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:26,720
Speaker 1: idea that like he's gonna hold the bilt at middleweight,

898
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,240
Speaker 1: Like I'm sorry, if he fought Robert Whittaker, I'm picking Whittaker.

899
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess we'll see what happens. But at

900
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 1: light heavyweight, you know there's I think there's plenty of

901
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 1: guys who would beat him as well. The other part too,

902
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 1: is BC. It's like, dude, don't forget is he stung

903
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 1: him and there I was at the second fight really badly,

904
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 1: he got the he got the eight count, and then

905
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 1: in the third fight he rocked him in the first round.

906
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 1: Remember that he had been two big shots and he

907
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 1: had stop them. It's like, dude, I gotta tell you,

908
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:56,359
Speaker 1: like the is he is a very uh he does

909
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 1: have good power. He's got great accuracy and amazing timing.

910
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 1: But he's not like a huge power punching guy. Jamal

911
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 1: Hill has very good power. You know. It's like again,

912
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:07,240
Speaker 1: it's not to say that I don't think Alex Preeur

913
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 1: could beat him. I think he could. I think that's

914
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 1: on the table BC. But if he's getting rocked by

915
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,319
Speaker 1: is he at one to eighty five, Jamal Hill would

916
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,359
Speaker 1: rock his shit just as bad. If not, well, we're

917
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 1: up twenty pounds. So like the idea that like, oh,

918
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 1: because he's such a great striker from glory, that would

919
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:26,320
Speaker 1: translate up a division against this in another sport. Yes,

920
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 1: he's going to do well. Listen to what I'm saying.

921
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 1: He's going to do well no matter what. But I

922
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 1: would not be nearly as confident in his chances as

923
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 1: I think as some of his other boosters might be.

924
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 2: Right, and the knee jerk response would be while he

925
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 2: was a two division champion in glory including light, have

926
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 2: youweight and he is about that life and the potential

927
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 2: issues that he would have, particularly when it comes to wrestling,

928
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 2: wouldn't really factor too much into this matchup anyway, even

929
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 2: though in theory against bigger guys, it's going to be

930
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 2: a problem no matter what against bigger guys. But yeah,

931
00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's like you could just here's the thing, though,

932
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 2: I don't one thing. You can justify it in the

933
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 2: middleweight title picture was my main pointing it.

934
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 1: Up to you.

935
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 2: But could you justify it in the light heavyweight title picture,

936
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 2: which is already a mess? We're already not really sure

937
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 2: who should be next. Prasco can't come back into at

938
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 2: least like August in a best case scenario, So could

939
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,280
Speaker 2: you justify it at two o five? If this happened,

940
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 2: it would have.

941
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 1: To be a very unusual set of circumstances. Like the

942
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 1: thing about this is like, if you're gonna do these

943
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 1: champion champion fights, you need some kind of reason for it.

944
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:31,879
Speaker 1: And when I mean some kind, I mean it can

945
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 1: really vary widely in need or timing. One the two

946
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:38,840
Speaker 1: guys have a huge rivalry and for some reason it

947
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 1: would make sense, especially with whatever the state of their

948
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,840
Speaker 1: respective divisions are in there's not an obvious contender or

949
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:47,319
Speaker 1: something that's one number two, it would do enormous business, right, like,

950
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 1: oh my god, we put these two guys together, it

951
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 1: would just blow up into something even bigger than what

952
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 1: it ordinarily would be. Three you need to do it

953
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 1: for pound for pound consideration, like we have with Volkanovsky

954
00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:00,359
Speaker 1: and Makachevler. All of those reasons would be pretty good

955
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 1: reasons to do them. Not one of them applies to

956
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 1: Jamal Hill versus Alex Paeda. The fight itself would be great,

957
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 1: But how many champion versus champion fights could you make?

958
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 1: That would suck? Not many? Not a whole lot, Like

959
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 1: all of are gonna be pretty I mean, they're fucking champions,

960
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 1: for crying.

961
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 2: Out more talking about just won the title. Both guys

962
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 2: just won the title.

963
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 1: They just won the title. There's an obvious contender at

964
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 1: one eighty five, two obvious contenders at one five. It

965
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:29,280
Speaker 1: just doesn't make It's a fine fight. I'm not saying otherwise,

966
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:32,399
Speaker 1: and Peda could win it. There's just no need for it.

967
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 2: I only really like it because of the juicy Glover angle,

968
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:37,399
Speaker 2: and they then have Glover as the coach right back

969
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:38,879
Speaker 2: in there. I mean, look, I fall for that pro

970
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:42,319
Speaker 2: wrestling bullshit. That's why even the idea of Connor versus No,

971
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 2: that's why even the idea of Connor versus Islam with

972
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 2: Eve in the corner, I'm like, Okay, there is part

973
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 2: of me that's going to be into that.

974
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 1: They're just is Yeah, dude, how about how about this?

975
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 1: I mean, this guy through ten fights, imagine if they

976
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 1: made it next, right, for whatever reason, they just made

977
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 1: it next, this guy through ten fights would be a

978
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 1: champ champ in the UFC, having beaten his long term

979
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 1: kick boxing rival and then going up a weight class

980
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:07,359
Speaker 1: to avenge his MMA guru slash leader guy or whatever

981
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:10,400
Speaker 1: like it. His trainer, his coach, his mentor really is

982
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 1: really the guy you could say his mentor to do

983
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 1: all that in ten fights, that's one of the most

984
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 1: absurd things I've ever heard, you know, or roughly ten fights.

985
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:18,760
Speaker 1: I could go double check what it would be. Something insane.

986
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 2: Well, look, if we end up with, you know, the

987
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 2: idea of Jamal Hill and his first defense against a

988
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 2: returning Prohotzka, that's probably what works best for everybody. I'm

989
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 2: willing to wait till the summer. I think, though, Mikey,

990
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 2: do we have the video response which we referenced on

991
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 2: Wednesday show but didn't have it coiled up? If you remember,

992
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:37,759
Speaker 2: Perotska was in the woods after Jamal hills win and

993
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 2: said I'm coming. It was very aggressively coming. Oh, we

994
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 2: don't have the video response, but Luke, Jamal Hill's comeback

995
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 2: was two shows.

996
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 1: You've brought that up now, I'm.

997
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:50,439
Speaker 2: Well for two on having the videos, but that's okay,

998
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 2: that's my fault. I didn't prepare properly, Luke. Let's go

999
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 2: to topic three. Speaking of another person who stumbled into

1000
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 2: Champ Champ opportunities, and we argued whether it was too

1001
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 2: much too soon? How about this report April eighth, UFC

1002
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:08,280
Speaker 2: two eighty seven in Brooklyn, al Jamine Sterling reportedly could

1003
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 2: be headed toward a title defense with Henry Suhudo, which

1004
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 2: has been talked about for a long time now. But

1005
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:17,720
Speaker 2: Ali l abdel Aziz, of course, the manager of Henry Shudo,

1006
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 2: did tweet out against the report that it was fake news.

1007
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:22,879
Speaker 2: Do you remember who the source of this report? Luke?

1008
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 2: You remember?

1009
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:25,320
Speaker 1: No, I'll double check here though.

1010
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 2: You know it wasn't. I mean, it wasn't like you know,

1011
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 2: Brett directly from from you know, Danea or anything or

1012
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:33,399
Speaker 2: aerial you know it. I think it was a little

1013
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 2: bit on the uh periphery of the of the m

1014
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:40,919
Speaker 2: M A galaxy. No, No, that's that's okay, that's from

1015
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 2: the the the actual horse's mouth. All right, Lukey, fighting

1016
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 2: there it is.

1017
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:48,319
Speaker 1: So I can tell you that, like they double checked

1018
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:50,799
Speaker 1: that probably before they reported it, so it's probably pretty good.

1019
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:53,800
Speaker 2: So we know this is inevitable. But if you line

1020
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 2: this up in April and Brooklyn and you consider, uh,

1021
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 2: you know that March card with John Zones coming back

1022
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:02,359
Speaker 2: in Valentina, I know, by the way, I don't think

1023
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,880
Speaker 2: that Newness a'l donna fight. It might end up happening

1024
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 2: on that card that seems to still be up in

1025
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 2: the air. But that's a monster card. We got London

1026
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 2: coming up. You know things are coming together.

1027
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 1: Aren't they talking about Raquel Pennington fighting al Donna in

1028
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 1: San Antonio for a five round main event?

1029
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:18,879
Speaker 2: Yes, they are, Luke, Yeah, I.

1030
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,479
Speaker 1: Don't know so uh that one.

1031
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 2: So that original report was wrong, it seems. But Luke

1032
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 2: Sterling Suhudo, if that's your April close up in New

1033
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:29,799
Speaker 2: York City in Brooklyn there, how fired up?

1034
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 1: Are you love it? Okay? Love it is the answer, right, Like,

1035
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:36,479
Speaker 1: this is the fight I wanted to see the most.

1036
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 1: I have been very much against the idea, very conditionally

1037
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:43,359
Speaker 1: about Suhudo fighting Volkanovsky because he's been gone for a while.

1038
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 1: The last one was over Dominic Cruz. The division has

1039
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 1: certainly changed a lot even since he was last actively competing.

1040
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,319
Speaker 1: Let's see what he's got now at one thirty five.

1041
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 1: Let's actually see what he's got in this division. And

1042
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:57,760
Speaker 1: then if he looks as good as he says he is, fine,

1043
00:47:57,960 --> 00:47:59,799
Speaker 1: after that you can go fight whoever the hell you want.

1044
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:05,840
Speaker 1: I would if if Oolkonovski loses to Makachev, but Sohudo

1045
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 1: looks amazing against Sterling, I'll be the first one to say,

1046
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:10,360
Speaker 1: let's make that fight. I would love to do that, fine,

1047
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:12,319
Speaker 1: but I want to see where he's at. The only

1048
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 1: thing I really I just don't understand about all of

1049
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:15,840
Speaker 1: this is Sterling was very clear it was going to

1050
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:19,360
Speaker 1: take some time off to heal some long term injuries

1051
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 1: that he's had that have been difficult to heal, and

1052
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 1: he just he needed to do it, and he like

1053
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 1: the timeframe was he could be back around June or later,

1054
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 1: and now we're talking about a significantly expedited timeline relative

1055
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 1: to that. Did he get like pressured into it? Is

1056
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 1: he still going to push off the injury healing? Did

1057
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 1: he heal faster? There's some sort of parts of this

1058
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 1: that just I don't really have a good answer to

1059
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:41,839
Speaker 1: because I'm gonna say this, If he's going to take

1060
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 1: this fight in a compromise, state, man, you know, I

1061
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:46,319
Speaker 1: don't know what the right answer is. Do you take

1062
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 1: it for whatever reasons the UFC might have offered you, Like,

1063
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 1: here's the other part too. Two eighty seven I think

1064
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:52,439
Speaker 1: was originally supposed to be in Florida, and now they're

1065
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:55,280
Speaker 1: talking about Brooklyn, which means this is probably as close

1066
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:57,760
Speaker 1: to a hometown fight as Sterling is going to get,

1067
00:48:58,000 --> 00:48:59,840
Speaker 1: which is a big deal. I like that the UFC

1068
00:48:59,920 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 1: is going to guys hometowns more. They're going to Leon

1069
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 1: Edwards hometown. They're going to go to the home country

1070
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 1: anyway of Alex Bolkanovski. Now they could be putting another

1071
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:09,919
Speaker 1: champ in his hometown or certainly very close.

1072
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 2: So I'm telling you they're going after that live gate, Luke.

1073
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:15,320
Speaker 2: They want to max out. They do.

1074
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:17,319
Speaker 1: I think you're right that they do want to maximize it,

1075
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:19,360
Speaker 1: But I don't think that's like a substantive way in

1076
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 1: which in the overall portfolio of how they generate revenue,

1077
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 1: it's not a major driver. I think you're right about that,

1078
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,319
Speaker 1: but perhaps for slightly different reasons, like that money might

1079
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 1: be allocated for different expenses, not as like, hey, we

1080
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:32,720
Speaker 1: can really change our fortunes this way. In any case,

1081
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 1: I love the fight BC, but it gives me some

1082
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:39,279
Speaker 1: concern about the health and readiness of the champion, And

1083
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 1: that gives me a lot of concern because if he's

1084
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,359
Speaker 1: not ready for this one, I don't want to hear

1085
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 1: anything after the fact about what might have slowed him down. Conversely,

1086
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 1: that doesn't necessarily give us the best read possible on

1087
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 1: how Sohudo could look and the implications of a winner

1088
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 1: or loss here are significant, So that part, to me

1089
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:58,360
Speaker 1: gives me a little bit of pause.

1090
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 2: Okay, well, I have a large your question on the

1091
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 2: division in the direction here. So we already know that

1092
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 2: Cheeto's gonna fight Sanheigan coming up, and Morob is going

1093
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:09,880
Speaker 2: to fight Uh who is he announced against?

1094
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:11,799
Speaker 1: Luke Peter j Peter Peter.

1095
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, so those are the major players, not counting Sean O'Malley.

1096
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:17,479
Speaker 2: We don't have a fight for him.

1097
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 1: At the moment, right, No, not that I'm aware of.

1098
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 2: So I I thought the recent news of like, look,

1099
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 2: I thought you could have gone O'Malley versus Cheeto too

1100
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:30,759
Speaker 2: and even put some kind of interim unnecessary label on it,

1101
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 2: and they didn't go that way. So I thought that

1102
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 2: was opening the doors for either O'Malley versus Al Jamain

1103
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:41,320
Speaker 2: straight up, or even O'Malley versus Shudo for an interim title.

1104
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:43,839
Speaker 2: What does this tell you about what we're doing here?

1105
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 2: Maybe that's why Ali said it's fake news, Luke. Maybe

1106
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 2: it is fake news. Okay, maybe we just wasted some time,

1107
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 2: all right.

1108
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:53,360
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think if MMA Fighting reported

1109
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:55,319
Speaker 1: it, it didn't say that it was a done deal. It's

1110
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 1: that it's being targeted. Yeah, that's the hard These are

1111
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 1: working towards it, and they add that's an act suggestion

1112
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 1: and they want to see if they can make it happen.

1113
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 1: I would believe the MMA fighting report over a manager's

1114
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 1: denial personally.

1115
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:09,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there's a track record in general there. Yeah,

1116
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:12,760
Speaker 2: all right, hey Luke, topic number four on this Friday,

1117
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 2: we got some other recent fight and new some good

1118
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 2: ones here, Hey benil there use here we go. He says,

1119
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 2: UFC is trying to book him versus Charles Olivera in May,

1120
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 2: and we have a video here to accompany this.

1121
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 3: Thing I've been having with Charles.

1122
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:29,840
Speaker 2: Do you have see?

1123
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 3: Originally was like, hey, what do you think about fighting

1124
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 3: him in Brazil? Which was like a couple of weeks

1125
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:36,239
Speaker 3: ago I think, or it was last week, I don't know,

1126
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 3: and I was like, can I get a little bit

1127
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 3: more time. It turns out my MCL was torn. I

1128
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:42,760
Speaker 3: didn't know it was that bad.

1129
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:44,280
Speaker 2: From the fight with Gamrod.

1130
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 3: It was before the fight, but it wasn't like it

1131
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:49,239
Speaker 3: wasn't like super bad. I just had to wear a

1132
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:50,920
Speaker 3: knee brace and I was like, hey, you know I

1133
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 3: got it checked out. It's actually torn. So I'd like

1134
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 3: to just start my camp fresh. Can I have a

1135
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:59,279
Speaker 3: little bit extra time? So can we do February? And

1136
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 3: they said, Okay, yeah, we'll do February. February turned into March,

1137
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:05,879
Speaker 3: March turned into April, and now they're talking about May.

1138
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 2: That is the shmo providing that content. Luke. First of all,

1139
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 2: old Benny is just going with like the full on Trickia.

1140
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 2: I kind of look washed, don't I thing when we

1141
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:19,880
Speaker 2: all know he's entering, you know, the peak moment of

1142
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 2: his career here. I love that he's just given up

1143
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 2: with the gray there. I mean, it's very Luke Thomas, like,

1144
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:26,840
Speaker 2: you know, it's noble. It's very noble, Luke. You know,

1145
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:29,400
Speaker 2: us that don't have the same level of self confidence

1146
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 2: end up looking like we got into a fight with

1147
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 2: a box of shoe polish. But I didn't lose it.

1148
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 2: I'll tell you that I won that fight. Luke, what

1149
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 2: do you think here? I mean, this is the best

1150
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:42,359
Speaker 2: thing they could give Darry Hush. That's not a title

1151
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:43,479
Speaker 2: shot in my mind.

1152
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 1: I got asked this yesterday about whether or not he

1153
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 1: should take this fight, and usually under circumstances like this,

1154
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 1: where guys are not getting the timeline that they want,

1155
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 1: either it's too slow or it's too fast, and you

1156
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 1: know you're already done a lot Do you really want

1157
00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 1: to risk it against someone else kind of big A

1158
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:02,319
Speaker 1: lot of times I would say don't risk it. In

1159
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:04,879
Speaker 1: this case, I'm gonna say risk it right in this case,

1160
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:07,360
Speaker 1: I think he has to. You know, if we have

1161
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 1: Connor McGregor coming back to potentially then we don't know

1162
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:12,400
Speaker 1: he could fight at one seventy. It's all up in

1163
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 1: the air. But I mean there's a two factors here

1164
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 1: that stand to me. Number One, Connor McGregor could be

1165
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 1: coming back to one fifty five. And if he beats

1166
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 1: Tony I'm sorry, Benil, it doesn't even matter. It almost

1167
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 1: doesn't matter who you beat at that point, they're not

1168
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 1: going to give you a title shot next. It's just

1169
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 1: not the way that it's going to go. Now, you

1170
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 1: might be saying, well, that would be incentive to not

1171
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 1: take the fight, but I actually feel like, if this

1172
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:36,400
Speaker 1: is the second part, if you're going to take the

1173
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 1: John Fitch road to a title shot, you have to

1174
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:42,319
Speaker 1: understand you have to do something really spectacular in the

1175
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 1: cage to get that, and by the way, there's downsides

1176
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 1: to it, because once you get it, they're not going

1177
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 1: to give you another one again. And it's not really

1178
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:49,400
Speaker 1: fair to say that like he's a John Fitch guy,

1179
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 1: because John Fitch's fights weren't necessarily all was that exciting.

1180
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 1: Benil's are reliably pretty good in that way. However, what

1181
00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 1: we're talking about here is no promotion basically outside of it,

1182
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 1: not trying to base your fortunes in any way on

1183
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 1: an identity that the fan base can rally around and

1184
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 1: then booy you to more, you know, prestigious assignments or

1185
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:11,759
Speaker 1: potential fights or opportunities. You have to do everything in

1186
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:14,360
Speaker 1: the cage. Dude. If you want a title shot and

1187
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 1: you're Banil Daryush and you want to leave it to

1188
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:19,759
Speaker 1: as little chance as possible, you have to do something spectacular.

1189
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:23,880
Speaker 1: You have to do something very very high in achievement.

1190
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 1: You have to beat Charles Olavera or something pretty approximate

1191
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:28,359
Speaker 1: to it, and there's not many other names you can

1192
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 1: put next to his that would be of similar value.

1193
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:32,799
Speaker 1: And it's high risk, high reward. I get it. I

1194
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,840
Speaker 1: understand BC, but I don't think if you're Baniel Daryush.

1195
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:38,240
Speaker 1: You can like wait around and see how he goes.

1196
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 2: It's your time. They gave you a chance to, you know,

1197
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 2: to come to the party. Well, you know, you with

1198
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:45,719
Speaker 2: a cool kids like you got it. You gotta take

1199
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:47,719
Speaker 2: your swing. You got to go for it. And I said,

1200
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 2: it's the best thing he could get outside of Tyler's shot,

1201
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:52,879
Speaker 2: really outside of like a McGregor or Mosvidl or Nate

1202
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 2: type of like crossover action fight. Yeah, separate from anything

1203
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:58,360
Speaker 2: of that in the critical sense. And what it seems

1204
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 2: like he's really all about, which is finding out how

1205
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 2: great he can be. I have a lot of respect

1206
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 2: for Darry Hush and how he carries himself and how

1207
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 2: he gets himself amped up for these fights. You got

1208
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 2: to take this fight, and I think he will, and

1209
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:12,359
Speaker 2: I think that's what he's all about. So let's find out, Luke.

1210
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:14,279
Speaker 2: I mean, Ballah Mohammad is almost in a spot in

1211
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 2: a different division where it's like, okay, let's find out

1212
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:18,239
Speaker 2: if you're in this group, let's find out how great

1213
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 2: you are. Let's do it. You know, I want to.

1214
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:20,959
Speaker 1: I want what are the odds, What are the odds

1215
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 1: going to be when they announce that fight if they

1216
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:22,759
Speaker 1: make it.

1217
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 2: Uh, it's Olivera minus two fifteen. It's a little high,

1218
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:34,400
Speaker 2: little what you think it should be closer?

1219
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:38,480
Speaker 1: I think it's like Olivera minus one point eighty, like

1220
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 1: plus one twenty ish?

1221
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 2: Well did you see not that this factors into that,

1222
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:45,239
Speaker 2: but didn't you see the quotes from Charlie. Uh might

1223
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:46,880
Speaker 2: have been to Ariel where he says, you know, like

1224
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 2: people are over being too harsh about the one sided

1225
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:52,799
Speaker 2: nature of that performance. It's basically ten bad minutes he had.

1226
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 2: And you know, look at the run he was on.

1227
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess this plays in more into a

1228
00:55:57,040 --> 00:56:01,319
Speaker 2: question to you, do you see like was the run

1229
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 2: Charles Olivera on which needed some levels of I don't

1230
00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:05,960
Speaker 2: want to say luck, because he made his own luck,

1231
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:08,719
Speaker 2: but it needed some levels of like, I'm taking big

1232
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:10,840
Speaker 2: risks here right, like hopefully it goes my way? And

1233
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:14,239
Speaker 2: it did. The run was incredible. You can fall off

1234
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 2: a cliff though after a run that intense. Could he

1235
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:19,840
Speaker 2: maintain this look on this level? I mean, he's always

1236
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:23,359
Speaker 2: a finishing threat, But you know, what are your expectations

1237
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:25,440
Speaker 2: for a returning Olivera in that regard?

1238
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:28,440
Speaker 1: I expect him to still be very good, and I

1239
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 1: expect him to still get some big wins. Whether he

1240
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:31,759
Speaker 1: beats dorry USh or not, i'd have to think about

1241
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 1: it more. Again, I would favor him to win, but

1242
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 1: it'd be very close and competitive. And yeah, he had

1243
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:38,880
Speaker 1: ten bad minutes against Islam. He had ten bad minutes

1244
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:41,799
Speaker 1: because Islam made him have ten bad minutes. That's why,

1245
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, let's just go back to everything

1246
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 1: he said pre fight leading up to that one, about

1247
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 1: his readiness and having his team there, and the champion

1248
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 1: has a name, like he went into that one full

1249
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 1: of confidence. He had his own balloon inflated, and Islam

1250
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 1: went in there with a needle and popped it. Let's

1251
00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 1: just be very clear about that. He had ten bad

1252
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 1: minutes because another guy made him have ten bad minutes.

1253
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:04,759
Speaker 1: He didn't have an off night mentally, he didn't have.

1254
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:07,919
Speaker 1: All these guys have injuries, but no, nothing really substantial

1255
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:10,799
Speaker 1: that we're aware of limiting him. He just got beat

1256
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:13,480
Speaker 1: by a better guy, Banil Daryush. Maybe he is not

1257
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 1: Islam markt Chev okay, fair enough, but he is damn

1258
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:19,280
Speaker 1: good and the idea of him winning is would be

1259
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 1: in no way surprising no, no, not at all, not

1260
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:23,000
Speaker 1: at all.

1261
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 2: I mean, you know what is Charles Olov's gonna be

1262
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 2: exactly who he is, like full on danger. I don't

1263
00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 2: think he's gonna change his style. I just wonder if

1264
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:32,920
Speaker 2: he can keep up that level of spectacular things going

1265
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 2: his way. How about this for a fight. Alexander Romanov,

1266
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:40,040
Speaker 2: who we thought you know from especially from a ground

1267
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 2: game sense, could be this new interesting heavyweight on the rise.

1268
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 2: Then he gassed out and took that l dude deep

1269
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 2: end of the pool. Alert March eleventh, UFC, Vegas, seventy one.

1270
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 2: Alexander Romanov is gonna welcome Alexander Volkov. Wow, Luke, We're

1271
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 2: gonna find some things out here like this is we're

1272
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 2: gonna find out which Alexander is truly great and the

1273
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 2: dad joke bingo, if you had that one, you win.

1274
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:06,280
Speaker 2: But uh, you know, wow, Luke, Right, you like this?

1275
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:10,200
Speaker 1: I like it because I like Romanov, although he's got

1276
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 1: some issues to work on. But it's a little bit

1277
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:15,479
Speaker 1: surprising that they're giving him someone in the top ten,

1278
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 1: Like I'm just surprised. Right, Let me verify something here,

1279
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:23,360
Speaker 1: let me look at something. I mean, I you know

1280
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 1: what I guess I understand why they gave him the

1281
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:30,560
Speaker 1: fast track on this one a little bit.

1282
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 2: Even Look, yeah, what's in a stop, bitch? It was

1283
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 2: a majority decision loss to Marchinge Taborrow, but that showed

1284
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:42,959
Speaker 2: us that Romanov was not yet ready for prime time,

1285
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 2: and now we got a better matchup, not better in

1286
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:48,720
Speaker 2: terms of chances of winning, but like a more prestigious,

1287
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:51,600
Speaker 2: higher ranking. Like I think a Volkanov as sort of

1288
00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:54,040
Speaker 2: the first guy in that upper group, right, he's that

1289
00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:55,000
Speaker 2: guy you got to get past.

1290
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:58,840
Speaker 1: Yes, And I'm just pointing out, like Tybora just beat him,

1291
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 1: and now they're going to give him Blagoy Ivanoff, who's

1292
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 1: sitting at fifteen. Romanov is sitting at thirteen, who just lost,

1293
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:07,760
Speaker 1: and they're gonna give him volco of at eight. I

1294
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:10,920
Speaker 1: was like, I don't hate the fight, Please don't misunderstand me.

1295
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 1: And by the way, Romanov could very well win that one.

1296
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:14,840
Speaker 1: And like these guys are all there's a level of

1297
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:17,640
Speaker 1: parody there despite what the ranking position might be. But

1298
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:20,120
Speaker 1: I guess they're just like, yeah, we know you lost, guy,

1299
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 1: but we still have some hopes for you. Tib Borrow.

1300
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:24,480
Speaker 1: We kind of know what we have we're just gonna

1301
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:26,680
Speaker 1: move on past him. I don't know how else you explain.

1302
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 2: It, Lou quickly that that up I agree with you,

1303
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 2: and that upcoming pyotor Yan fight is not is gonna

1304
00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 2: be in Vegas, but not at the Apex. That's a

1305
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:37,680
Speaker 2: fight Night main event and a great one by the way,

1306
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:40,560
Speaker 2: but that's gonna be at the Virgin Hotels, the old

1307
00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:44,440
Speaker 2: hard Rock. There is there anything there. And that announcement

1308
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:46,440
Speaker 2: in terms of how often in your eyes, UFC is

1309
00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:48,040
Speaker 2: going to be looking to get out of the Apex,

1310
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:49,480
Speaker 2: you know, which is kind of what we want them

1311
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:51,960
Speaker 2: to for the for the crowd experience, and how what

1312
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:55,400
Speaker 2: that does to the fights. It's obviously in some ways

1313
00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 2: a more efficient investment to do it from the Apex,

1314
00:59:58,120 --> 01:00:00,920
Speaker 2: but then you lose the live gate. So what do

1315
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:01,720
Speaker 2: you think this means?

1316
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:04,560
Speaker 1: I don't exactly know. So they used to go to

1317
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:07,200
Speaker 1: hard rock all the time. When they held W E

1318
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:10,960
Speaker 1: C on Versus many many of those took place at

1319
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:12,560
Speaker 1: the hard Rock, which to your point is off or

1320
01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:14,960
Speaker 1: what was then the hard Rock, which is off strip.

1321
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:18,919
Speaker 2: I'm not before Luke, the Palms had like the same

1322
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:19,600
Speaker 2: size venus.

1323
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:22,480
Speaker 1: They had the Pearl at the Palms, which was also

1324
01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:24,160
Speaker 1: pretty small as well, and then you would use that

1325
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:26,919
Speaker 1: I don't quite understand the I'd have to look into

1326
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:28,960
Speaker 1: it more the math on why they sometimes go to

1327
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:32,400
Speaker 1: these and sometimes don't, and what what are the what

1328
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:35,080
Speaker 1: are they what are the reasons why they would elect

1329
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:37,000
Speaker 1: to go into another place in their own hometown when

1330
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 1: they had the apex versus not. But you know, it's

1331
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:41,120
Speaker 1: it's interesting.

1332
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:43,919
Speaker 2: That's Yahan against Devlish WHEELI is the fight. I can't

1333
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:46,800
Speaker 2: wait to see that. Look, how about this interesting uh

1334
01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 2: twitter breakdown yesterday or breakout? Gilbert Burns put out a

1335
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:56,720
Speaker 2: tweet that essentially teased a monster announcement is coming, and

1336
01:00:56,760 --> 01:01:00,440
Speaker 2: then Jorge Masvidal did the same exact thing, one of them,

1337
01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:04,000
Speaker 2: particularly tailoring the announcement to London in that upcoming pay

1338
01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:06,520
Speaker 2: per view. So, Luke, when I saw that, I thought,

1339
01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:08,240
Speaker 2: oh crap, are they going to fight each other on

1340
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:13,320
Speaker 2: like the comin of Leon Edwards Usman three and in theory,

1341
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:16,080
Speaker 2: you know, the winner of that could be next. Then

1342
01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:18,520
Speaker 2: I thought maybe it was Masvidal with McGregor and the

1343
01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:21,400
Speaker 2: Tough House, but that if that, if Tony Ferguson is

1344
01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:24,000
Speaker 2: right on, does this mean Gilbert Burns and Horiy Maswall

1345
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:26,160
Speaker 2: are fighting each other. Because as much as I think

1346
01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:29,360
Speaker 2: Gilbert versus Colby is a great one to do, if

1347
01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:32,960
Speaker 2: Mazvedol is really in this title picture, mostly because he

1348
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 2: has a connection to Leon Edwards, then damn right, I'd

1349
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:37,880
Speaker 2: love to see him have to fight Gilbert Burns first

1350
01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:41,000
Speaker 2: to really earn that spot. I could be really down

1351
01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:42,040
Speaker 2: for this, really.

1352
01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:45,040
Speaker 1: I could be down for two. Also, it gives the

1353
01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:49,400
Speaker 1: UFC the excuse of saying, hey, we'll put Gilbert versus

1354
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:53,680
Speaker 1: Joge on this London card and if, for whatever reason

1355
01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:57,400
Speaker 1: we need a backup for the main event, for whatever happens,

1356
01:01:57,440 --> 01:02:00,280
Speaker 1: we can just slot Jorge right on in there. You know,

1357
01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:03,439
Speaker 1: You're just an emergency circumstance, right, something like that.

1358
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:06,040
Speaker 2: And then and then I have missed his weight by

1359
01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:07,880
Speaker 2: seven pounds and we're like, how did we get here?

1360
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:08,800
Speaker 2: What happened? Yeah?

1361
01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:10,880
Speaker 1: Exactly. But I'm saying, you could get the three piece

1362
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:13,040
Speaker 1: in the soda replay, you know, you get that again.

1363
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:15,720
Speaker 1: So it seems to me that like there's a little

1364
01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:16,520
Speaker 1: bit of that going on.

1365
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:20,400
Speaker 2: Okay, if that goes down, does that tell you Colby

1366
01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:24,520
Speaker 2: versus Hamza is imminent or no, could could Hamza be

1367
01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:25,520
Speaker 2: going to middleway.

1368
01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:28,880
Speaker 1: Again? My understanding is Hamza's next fight is going to

1369
01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:30,760
Speaker 1: be a middleweight. That's not one hundred percent, but that

1370
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:34,360
Speaker 1: is my understanding. So I just don't know how to

1371
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:37,360
Speaker 1: count him right now. That's the part that's just unclear

1372
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:39,720
Speaker 1: for me, because remember we're all like, oh, Gilbert versus

1373
01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:42,000
Speaker 1: Colby's the fight to make. Well, three months ago it

1374
01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:44,240
Speaker 1: was Hamzad versus Colby that was the fight to make.

1375
01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:46,520
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's going back to walterweight next.

1376
01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:48,280
Speaker 1: Let's see what he's up to and then we can

1377
01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:49,280
Speaker 1: guess figure out from there.

1378
01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:51,480
Speaker 2: Maybe Dana would be like, hey, Colby, if you want

1379
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:53,160
Speaker 2: to fight again, I got a guy for you. His

1380
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:55,280
Speaker 2: name is shav Catt rock mon Off. I'm sorry, but

1381
01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:57,320
Speaker 2: that's the only way, you know, Like, that's that's the

1382
01:02:57,720 --> 01:02:58,600
Speaker 2: only fight we have for you.

1383
01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:01,280
Speaker 1: Sorry, So yeah, good luck with that either way.

1384
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:04,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. By the way, what do you think, because because

1385
01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:06,720
Speaker 2: I was surprised that Gilbert was such like a minus

1386
01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:09,200
Speaker 2: five fifty or whatever it was favored against Neil Magni,

1387
01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:11,800
Speaker 2: turns out I was wrong in terms of the potential

1388
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:15,560
Speaker 2: of a one sided small you know, smash like that.

1389
01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:18,640
Speaker 2: What do you think the onset of Gilbert versus Jorge

1390
01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:19,800
Speaker 2: would bring odds.

1391
01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:23,360
Speaker 1: Wise minus three ish for Gilbert?

1392
01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:26,320
Speaker 2: I mean, do you give what level of a chance

1393
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:28,680
Speaker 2: do you give masvid All based on what's left? And

1394
01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:30,440
Speaker 2: you know what you saw against Colby?

1395
01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:34,600
Speaker 1: Not much, not much. I think he could survive, but

1396
01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:37,800
Speaker 1: in a three round contest in particular, Gilbert would just

1397
01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:41,800
Speaker 1: Gilbert's a better wrestler, I think, and a much better grappler,

1398
01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:44,200
Speaker 1: although Jorge is good in both places, but I think

1399
01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:45,919
Speaker 1: Gilbert still a little bit ahead of him and would

1400
01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:47,720
Speaker 1: just kind of be all over him in a way

1401
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:50,600
Speaker 1: that you know Demian Male was or something. You could

1402
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:53,280
Speaker 1: just play that one back again. You know you're not wrong, Luke.

1403
01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:55,840
Speaker 2: Let's go to topic five as we continue. Look very

1404
01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:58,080
Speaker 2: efficient show out of us today, right, I think it's

1405
01:03:58,080 --> 01:03:58,880
Speaker 2: pretty good too.

1406
01:03:59,120 --> 01:04:00,360
Speaker 1: I see that.

1407
01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:02,680
Speaker 2: I think it's pretty good too. Hey, topic five, we

1408
01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:05,080
Speaker 2: got a real fight card. It's it's a quiet weekend,

1409
01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:09,440
Speaker 2: a calumn before the monster storms ahead. But this Saturday, London,

1410
01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:12,880
Speaker 2: how about a three pm Eastern main card start on

1411
01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:16,760
Speaker 2: ESPN Plus and it's Archer betterbeev one of the ten

1412
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:19,080
Speaker 2: or twelve or wherever you have him. You know, five

1413
01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:22,200
Speaker 2: or six best fighters in the land today, The thirty

1414
01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:26,720
Speaker 2: eight year old, unbeaten unified three of four belts at

1415
01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:29,880
Speaker 2: one hundred and seventy five pounds. This could be the

1416
01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:34,720
Speaker 2: final step toward died an undisputed championship out against Dmitri Beval,

1417
01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:36,720
Speaker 2: which would be one of the biggest fights you can

1418
01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:39,080
Speaker 2: make in the sport this year. But Luke, we know

1419
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:43,640
Speaker 2: better Beave eighteen and oh eighteen freaking KOs Anthony Yard

1420
01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:47,920
Speaker 2: comes in as a big underdog. He's a puncher. You know,

1421
01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:51,320
Speaker 2: he fought for a title before and pushed Sergey Kovallev late,

1422
01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:55,000
Speaker 2: a washed Sergeykvallev ahead of that Canelo match, and he

1423
01:04:55,080 --> 01:04:59,080
Speaker 2: got stopped late. He's largely won since then. But you know,

1424
01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:01,480
Speaker 2: we're not a expecting a ton but he's got a

1425
01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:04,400
Speaker 2: puncher's chance. What are your expectations here for Better Beav

1426
01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:06,120
Speaker 2: in this mandatory showdown?

1427
01:05:06,600 --> 01:05:09,200
Speaker 1: I honestly think that the really the I did some

1428
01:05:09,240 --> 01:05:11,280
Speaker 1: tape study for this one, because I'm actually pretty excited

1429
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:12,760
Speaker 1: about this fight, only in the sense that I like

1430
01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:17,240
Speaker 1: better Beef or better Beev. I just love watching him fight.

1431
01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:19,920
Speaker 1: He's not the cleanest technician, but he is one. He

1432
01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:23,840
Speaker 1: is one and obviously a ridiculous athlete and a dynamic

1433
01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:27,480
Speaker 1: puncher boxer really just quite spectacular in that way. And

1434
01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:30,080
Speaker 1: as you mentioned, one hundred finishing rate, the only champion

1435
01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:32,520
Speaker 1: in boxing who is that way. So to me, this

1436
01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:35,760
Speaker 1: is like very much appointment viewing. Listen, man, He's thirty

1437
01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:38,400
Speaker 1: eight years old and at some point father time has

1438
01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:40,520
Speaker 1: to catch up with him. But from what we've seen

1439
01:05:40,560 --> 01:05:43,440
Speaker 1: of him in recent fights, which have not been all

1440
01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:46,600
Speaker 1: that recent, but you know, recent ish, he's looked great.

1441
01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:49,320
Speaker 1: He's looked really great. He's been dropped a couple of times,

1442
01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:51,240
Speaker 1: but then he rallied. I don't think in any fight

1443
01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:54,360
Speaker 1: where better Beave has been dropped, it's gone past the

1444
01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:56,520
Speaker 1: fourth he stopped it after that, Like he's just that

1445
01:05:56,600 --> 01:05:59,480
Speaker 1: much of a punishing force. And the reality is this

1446
01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:03,560
Speaker 1: Yard is a big puncher, but he's mechanically a little stiff.

1447
01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:06,680
Speaker 1: His footwork is a little bit all over the place.

1448
01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:11,600
Speaker 1: He doesn't have great movement or slipping or defense. And

1449
01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:16,520
Speaker 1: for a guy like better Beave who's just people can

1450
01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:18,880
Speaker 1: sort of call him a come forward brawler, that's not

1451
01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:21,360
Speaker 1: really true. He definitely puts pressure on you, but he

1452
01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:23,760
Speaker 1: actually works a little bit better countering, and I just

1453
01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:26,040
Speaker 1: think Yard is gonna be like, listen, I'm a big puncher.

1454
01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:30,200
Speaker 1: Any fight Yard has had that's gone past the tenth round,

1455
01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:34,520
Speaker 1: he's lost. Keep that in mind. Better Beeve's power does

1456
01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:38,000
Speaker 1: not drop off. It carries late into fights. It just

1457
01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:40,320
Speaker 1: seems to me that if your Yard, you're gonna try

1458
01:06:40,320 --> 01:06:42,280
Speaker 1: and win this one in the first six rounds, and

1459
01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:44,440
Speaker 1: he might catch better Be with a couple of good

1460
01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:46,360
Speaker 1: shots here or there. I'm not in any way excluding

1461
01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:48,560
Speaker 1: that he's gonna make it a war. He's gonna make

1462
01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:52,280
Speaker 1: it a war, but it's not gonna be enough. The Canadian,

1463
01:06:52,680 --> 01:06:55,439
Speaker 1: the chechen Canadian, is gonna whoop up on him past six.

1464
01:06:56,480 --> 01:06:59,720
Speaker 2: So Yard since that twenty nineteen title loss to Sergey

1465
01:06:59,720 --> 01:07:03,840
Speaker 2: Cove is six and one overall with six knockouts, the

1466
01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:06,760
Speaker 2: only loss with the unbeaten Lyndon Arthur. It was a

1467
01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:12,000
Speaker 2: split decision over twelve rounds. So you know, could you

1468
01:07:12,040 --> 01:07:14,880
Speaker 2: know something wacky happened? Yard's got the got the the

1469
01:07:14,920 --> 01:07:18,520
Speaker 2: output to potentially do that. But better Be's too good,

1470
01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:20,400
Speaker 2: too tough, a lot of things, and dude, I was

1471
01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:22,160
Speaker 2: looking a little bit deeper. I wrote a feature on

1472
01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:25,200
Speaker 2: better Beav on CBS Sports this week, essentially saying like, look,

1473
01:07:25,240 --> 01:07:27,640
Speaker 2: you know this this year. We know he's thirty eight,

1474
01:07:27,680 --> 01:07:31,080
Speaker 2: but like this year could be his everything year in

1475
01:07:31,160 --> 01:07:34,400
Speaker 2: terms of becoming a star, in terms of undisputed champion.

1476
01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:36,920
Speaker 2: I mean, he really is one of boxing's best kept secrets,

1477
01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:40,640
Speaker 2: not talked about outside of the hardcore circles. Really not seriously, Luke,

1478
01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:42,200
Speaker 2: I think you've done some of the great the best

1479
01:07:42,240 --> 01:07:44,960
Speaker 2: parading of sort of like, holy shit, everybody else you know,

1480
01:07:45,080 --> 01:07:47,680
Speaker 2: check this guy out. But that's almost by design in

1481
01:07:47,760 --> 01:07:49,440
Speaker 2: terms of who he is like. But he does have

1482
01:07:49,480 --> 01:07:51,840
Speaker 2: a chance this year if he beats Yard and then

1483
01:07:51,840 --> 01:07:55,440
Speaker 2: if we can build that Bevall fight quickly, Like it's

1484
01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:57,680
Speaker 2: in conversation to be the pomp for Pound King if

1485
01:07:57,680 --> 01:07:59,640
Speaker 2: he comes out of that as your undisputed champion, and

1486
01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:02,360
Speaker 2: imagine if he keeps a knockout streak going. It's like,

1487
01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:06,240
Speaker 2: I think there's there's no shortage of four fights that

1488
01:08:06,280 --> 01:08:09,680
Speaker 2: we could see in twenty twenty three that could produce

1489
01:08:09,720 --> 01:08:11,680
Speaker 2: the next pound for pound King, meaning in a ways,

1490
01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:13,680
Speaker 2: my my Palm for pound King right now, I got

1491
01:08:13,720 --> 01:08:17,599
Speaker 2: no issue. If you've got either Spence Crawford, some people

1492
01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:19,920
Speaker 2: have Fury or Usk and you can even talk into

1493
01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:21,280
Speaker 2: that too, you know what I mean. But like that's

1494
01:08:21,280 --> 01:08:23,800
Speaker 2: really the core crew. Canelo in the midst of that

1495
01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:28,000
Speaker 2: as well. But how about Usik versus Fury, how about

1496
01:08:28,160 --> 01:08:31,679
Speaker 2: in a way versus Fulton, this fight better Viv versus

1497
01:08:31,680 --> 01:08:34,920
Speaker 2: bev All and then obviously Spence Crawford if we see it,

1498
01:08:35,080 --> 01:08:37,920
Speaker 2: you know there's a chance for any for the best. Look,

1499
01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:39,960
Speaker 2: you know, the best finish out of that, right, But

1500
01:08:40,120 --> 01:08:45,000
Speaker 2: look like what if Archer better bev like finishes the course?

1501
01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:46,679
Speaker 2: Like I don't know how long he actually wants to fight.

1502
01:08:46,760 --> 01:08:50,760
Speaker 2: He gives almost nothing in interviews, to almost a comical level.

1503
01:08:50,800 --> 01:08:52,479
Speaker 2: Where I wrote about it this week, there was a

1504
01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:54,679
Speaker 2: great uh story I share with you that a British

1505
01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:59,280
Speaker 2: journalist wrote that, like, he's almost comically stoic. He speaks English,

1506
01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:01,000
Speaker 2: he's well spoken and even though there is a bit

1507
01:09:01,040 --> 01:09:03,040
Speaker 2: of a language gap, but he he knows what he's doing.

1508
01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:06,479
Speaker 2: But like he gives you nothing to deal with. He uh.

1509
01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:09,559
Speaker 2: You know there's stories of him never traveling with a team,

1510
01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:12,160
Speaker 2: just on his own, never never looks excited. I mean,

1511
01:09:12,200 --> 01:09:15,559
Speaker 2: he is about business, but what if he goes in

1512
01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:17,760
Speaker 2: there and fights Paul for Pong rank Dmitri Bevall. If

1513
01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:20,280
Speaker 2: he wins this fight on Saturday, what if he knocks

1514
01:09:20,320 --> 01:09:22,080
Speaker 2: him out? And what if he just goes You know,

1515
01:09:22,120 --> 01:09:24,839
Speaker 2: I'm nineteen and oh with nineteen KOs, I'm the undisputed

1516
01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:28,639
Speaker 2: light heavyweight champion. Peace, Good luck dealing with my with

1517
01:09:28,680 --> 01:09:31,160
Speaker 2: my legacy, Like what like what do we do with that? Right?

1518
01:09:31,280 --> 01:09:31,360
Speaker 3: Like?

1519
01:09:31,439 --> 01:09:32,040
Speaker 2: Holy shit?

1520
01:09:32,200 --> 01:09:33,559
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know what you do with that.

1521
01:09:33,680 --> 01:09:34,800
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what you do with the

1522
01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:37,479
Speaker 1: career that short, but that dominant. And you could say, like, well,

1523
01:09:37,479 --> 01:09:39,160
Speaker 1: who did he beat before this? I had a big name.

1524
01:09:39,160 --> 01:09:41,040
Speaker 1: He's had a couple of big names, but there's not

1525
01:09:41,720 --> 01:09:44,400
Speaker 1: a ton of them. But if you beat Bivoll and

1526
01:09:44,400 --> 01:09:46,400
Speaker 1: then at that point he has so crib me if

1527
01:09:46,439 --> 01:09:49,920
Speaker 1: I'm wrong, BC betterbev has three of the titles, Bivell

1528
01:09:50,040 --> 01:09:52,719
Speaker 1: has one, So that means he would unify one seventy

1529
01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:55,080
Speaker 1: five and then call it a day. And in this

1530
01:09:55,160 --> 01:09:57,920
Speaker 1: theoretical way world you have constructed, not only would he

1531
01:09:57,920 --> 01:09:59,960
Speaker 1: be the unified champ, he would have knocked out every

1532
01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:01,840
Speaker 1: on the way to doing that. I don't know what

1533
01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:05,800
Speaker 1: you do with that. That's just pissing excellence. I don't

1534
01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:06,320
Speaker 1: know what you do with it.

1535
01:10:07,160 --> 01:10:10,519
Speaker 2: Here's the reason ultimately why he's thirty eight and hasn't

1536
01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:12,600
Speaker 2: had like the biggest fight of his career yet. So

1537
01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:15,040
Speaker 2: he had a really good amateur career, like on the

1538
01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:18,160
Speaker 2: international world level, but he did lose in some of

1539
01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:21,439
Speaker 2: the biggest moments. He lost at light heavyweight to Alexander Usik,

1540
01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:25,040
Speaker 2: who obviously now the heavyweight champion, in the World Championships

1541
01:10:25,040 --> 01:10:27,479
Speaker 2: gold batal match, and then he also got eliminated in

1542
01:10:27,479 --> 01:10:31,479
Speaker 2: the Olympics by Alexander Usik. But you know, he didn't

1543
01:10:31,479 --> 01:10:33,800
Speaker 2: turn pro till twenty eight. Then he had to sit

1544
01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:36,160
Speaker 2: out almost two years to get out of his original

1545
01:10:36,479 --> 01:10:39,280
Speaker 2: promotional deal with Ivon Michelle. He did a one fight

1546
01:10:39,320 --> 01:10:41,040
Speaker 2: deal with Eddie Hearn and that didn't work out. Then

1547
01:10:41,080 --> 01:10:42,640
Speaker 2: he went to top rank and then he missed you know,

1548
01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:45,760
Speaker 2: almost a year and a half during the pandemic as well.

1549
01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:48,559
Speaker 2: So you know, he doesn't fight all the time. But

1550
01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:51,320
Speaker 2: I think he has enough names, you know, not to

1551
01:10:51,439 --> 01:10:53,600
Speaker 2: catapult him to some stupid you know, where is he

1552
01:10:53,680 --> 01:10:55,360
Speaker 2: on your all time list? But I just mean, like,

1553
01:10:55,800 --> 01:10:58,160
Speaker 2: is he an all time great? I mean, he's knocked

1554
01:10:58,160 --> 01:11:00,639
Speaker 2: out viciously the contenders on the way up. He should

1555
01:11:00,640 --> 01:11:03,759
Speaker 2: have like a divorce cloud, a Gabriel Campo, like veteran guys.

1556
01:11:03,960 --> 01:11:06,240
Speaker 2: But when he got into his core key opponents in

1557
01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:10,320
Speaker 2: acquiring titles, Callum Johnson was unbeaten when when better Beef

1558
01:11:10,320 --> 01:11:13,719
Speaker 2: you know, knocked him out. Alexander Vosdik was an unbeaten

1559
01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:16,720
Speaker 2: champion and you know better be retired him in that

1560
01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:20,280
Speaker 2: stoppage loss. And you know he's faced good, good, tough

1561
01:11:20,320 --> 01:11:22,719
Speaker 2: matchups in both Marcus Brown and then Joe Smith Junior,

1562
01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:25,160
Speaker 2: the last one in which he unified the titles the

1563
01:11:25,200 --> 01:11:28,000
Speaker 2: second time, and he's knocked those guys the hell out.

1564
01:11:28,120 --> 01:11:28,360
Speaker 1: Luke.

1565
01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:32,479
Speaker 2: He's certainly a bigger puncher than he is a boxer.

1566
01:11:32,520 --> 01:11:34,320
Speaker 2: But the real key here is he's a completely well

1567
01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:37,559
Speaker 2: rounded fighter and he can do you know, not technically perfect,

1568
01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:40,200
Speaker 2: but can win by boxing if he has to. Is

1569
01:11:40,680 --> 01:11:42,800
Speaker 2: you know, dirt tough and to your point, gotten up

1570
01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:45,080
Speaker 2: off the canvas before when he's had to. And you

1571
01:11:45,080 --> 01:11:46,880
Speaker 2: know the only time it was like that comeback from

1572
01:11:46,920 --> 01:11:50,240
Speaker 2: COVID I was against Adam Denis. He looked human there

1573
01:11:50,240 --> 01:11:52,400
Speaker 2: and I was like, okay, is he getting old? Go

1574
01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:54,360
Speaker 2: watch the Marcus Brown and the Joe Smith fights. He's

1575
01:11:54,360 --> 01:11:57,160
Speaker 2: not getting old, so I do wonder if he just

1576
01:11:57,240 --> 01:11:58,479
Speaker 2: is going to get to a point where he's like

1577
01:11:58,600 --> 01:12:00,519
Speaker 2: did everything I came here to do. They did ask

1578
01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:02,679
Speaker 2: him this week if he would ever fight Usik based

1579
01:12:02,720 --> 01:12:04,960
Speaker 2: on the amateur losses at heavyweight, and he said no,

1580
01:12:05,320 --> 01:12:08,120
Speaker 2: Usik's too big. So he just you know, he knows

1581
01:12:08,120 --> 01:12:10,000
Speaker 2: his playground. He knows he's got a chance here to

1582
01:12:10,040 --> 01:12:11,760
Speaker 2: be the best, but he's got to get through yard

1583
01:12:11,800 --> 01:12:14,640
Speaker 2: to get there. It's just so cool, how I mean,

1584
01:12:14,680 --> 01:12:18,160
Speaker 2: he's like stereotypical, like foreign bad guy in a movie.

1585
01:12:18,200 --> 01:12:20,360
Speaker 2: That's exactly you know, he's not a bad guy. He's

1586
01:12:20,479 --> 01:12:22,120
Speaker 2: probably you know, I don't know if he's a bad guy.

1587
01:12:22,120 --> 01:12:24,120
Speaker 2: I don't know anything about this guy. He doesn't open

1588
01:12:24,200 --> 01:12:26,519
Speaker 2: up that cupboard door. He's got very fatal like in

1589
01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:27,599
Speaker 2: that regard, very fatal.

1590
01:12:27,680 --> 01:12:30,800
Speaker 1: Well, he's cheching, So Kadirov is sort of close to him,

1591
01:12:30,840 --> 01:12:34,599
Speaker 1: although you know it's his case. He moved to Canada

1592
01:12:34,680 --> 01:12:37,360
Speaker 1: and he's become a Canadian citizen and he's friends with

1593
01:12:37,400 --> 01:12:39,320
Speaker 1: George Saint Pierre. For folks who may not know that

1594
01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:42,080
Speaker 1: him and Saint Pierre type they've trained together many times,

1595
01:12:42,760 --> 01:12:44,880
Speaker 1: and you know, you wonder how much he can't get

1596
01:12:44,920 --> 01:12:47,880
Speaker 1: away from that because he has Chechen roots and he

1597
01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:50,800
Speaker 1: probably has family back there, So I don't know what

1598
01:12:50,840 --> 01:12:53,280
Speaker 1: that's all about. But as a person beyond that, he

1599
01:12:53,400 --> 01:12:57,280
Speaker 1: just seems to be as focused and monastic as anyone

1600
01:12:57,320 --> 01:12:59,479
Speaker 1: you've ever seen in the fight game that I saw

1601
01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:02,040
Speaker 1: the way in pictures with him in yard yard is

1602
01:13:02,240 --> 01:13:05,519
Speaker 1: well muscled, and at thirty eight, he's thirty one at

1603
01:13:05,560 --> 01:13:10,040
Speaker 1: thirty eight, but Terbev or better Beef just looked, I mean,

1604
01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:13,960
Speaker 1: dice to the socks. So he looks like he's taking

1605
01:13:14,240 --> 01:13:16,320
Speaker 1: great care of I mean, the guy's as he ever

1606
01:13:16,320 --> 01:13:18,519
Speaker 1: had a sip of alcohol. Probably not, you know, a

1607
01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:20,120
Speaker 1: three in the morning, probably not.

1608
01:13:20,640 --> 01:13:22,559
Speaker 2: Probably not. If he doesn't seem to be about that

1609
01:13:22,640 --> 01:13:25,040
Speaker 2: life he's just about I mean, the interviews are like

1610
01:13:25,080 --> 01:13:28,439
Speaker 2: they're comical. You know, I almost got him for Morning Combat, Lucas.

1611
01:13:28,479 --> 01:13:30,000
Speaker 2: Maybe a good thing I didn't, because it would have

1612
01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:31,519
Speaker 2: been it would have been like you and Fade or

1613
01:13:31,560 --> 01:13:33,559
Speaker 2: I mean, really it would have been Luke. You tried, dude,

1614
01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:35,439
Speaker 2: you tried. You definitely, you know, you try to.

1615
01:13:35,439 --> 01:13:37,559
Speaker 1: Know you're better about that, but you shouldn't be because

1616
01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:39,080
Speaker 1: your interview would have been no better.

1617
01:13:39,280 --> 01:13:41,360
Speaker 2: Just so you know, well, you know, Luke, I've been

1618
01:13:41,400 --> 01:13:43,760
Speaker 2: known to pull some things out of things, but I

1619
01:13:43,800 --> 01:13:47,200
Speaker 2: will obviously YouTube dot com slash Morning Combat. We need

1620
01:13:47,200 --> 01:13:49,280
Speaker 2: to plug our own stuff more. The fad or a

1621
01:13:49,320 --> 01:13:51,800
Speaker 2: million Aco resume review is live, so if you haven't

1622
01:13:51,880 --> 01:13:54,360
Speaker 2: checked that out, please do so as a labor of

1623
01:13:54,439 --> 01:13:56,439
Speaker 2: love for Luke and I and our team Mikey Morrion's

1624
01:13:56,439 --> 01:13:59,320
Speaker 2: behind the scenes are extended team over there, Malka. They

1625
01:13:59,400 --> 01:14:02,479
Speaker 2: people worked on this and uh and and I enjoyed

1626
01:14:02,479 --> 01:14:04,599
Speaker 2: it because you know, I didn't live the Pride life

1627
01:14:04,800 --> 01:14:06,880
Speaker 2: fight by fight, you know, I was. I was more

1628
01:14:06,880 --> 01:14:09,679
Speaker 2: of a distant UFC fan at that time. So dude,

1629
01:14:09,720 --> 01:14:12,040
Speaker 2: I got to live this in order and that was

1630
01:14:12,120 --> 01:14:14,240
Speaker 2: that was as fun doing research as we've ever done

1631
01:14:14,240 --> 01:14:17,439
Speaker 2: in this segment, because man, I missed those days. Luke

1632
01:14:17,439 --> 01:14:18,759
Speaker 2: and I didn't even live it live.

1633
01:14:18,640 --> 01:14:21,240
Speaker 1: You know, dude, to watch I mean you just I mean,

1634
01:14:21,240 --> 01:14:23,320
Speaker 1: if I said to you, elwell, Fador has you know,

1635
01:14:23,640 --> 01:14:27,320
Speaker 1: physically lost a step significant one since his Pride days,

1636
01:14:27,320 --> 01:14:28,840
Speaker 1: You'd be like, yeah, of course. But then when you

1637
01:14:28,840 --> 01:14:30,639
Speaker 1: go back and you watch him in his physical prime.

1638
01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:35,240
Speaker 1: You're like, holy shit, you forget just how much of

1639
01:14:35,280 --> 01:14:40,000
Speaker 1: a I mean incredible athletic presence and frankly, how much

1640
01:14:40,040 --> 01:14:42,519
Speaker 1: of his game at that time relied on athleticism. I

1641
01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:45,360
Speaker 1: kind of was reminded of that, but dude, he was

1642
01:14:45,479 --> 01:14:48,080
Speaker 1: such a terrifying force. That was a lot of fun.

1643
01:14:48,120 --> 01:14:49,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, go watch it.

1644
01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:52,840
Speaker 2: You can also check out my interview with One Championship

1645
01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:55,920
Speaker 2: Sage Northcott, who's back almost a four year break. We

1646
01:14:55,960 --> 01:14:58,720
Speaker 2: talk about life, growing up, all that stuff. What a

1647
01:14:58,880 --> 01:15:01,719
Speaker 2: what a what a polite gentleman, Luke? I mean, really,

1648
01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:04,599
Speaker 2: what else you gonna say? I mean, he's almost awkwardly polite.

1649
01:15:04,600 --> 01:15:06,479
Speaker 2: He's he's a very nice guy, and I wish him

1650
01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:09,400
Speaker 2: well coming back at May fifth and when One Championship

1651
01:15:09,439 --> 01:15:13,439
Speaker 2: makes his brows. I don't know if I can judge

1652
01:15:13,479 --> 01:15:15,720
Speaker 2: him on that level, Luke, Right, you know, I don't know.

1653
01:15:15,800 --> 01:15:17,679
Speaker 2: I mean, it's such a nice he's married now too,

1654
01:15:17,760 --> 01:15:20,040
Speaker 2: so so congratulations out to him. But anyway, Better be

1655
01:15:20,200 --> 01:15:23,760
Speaker 2: versus Yard Saturday, three pm Eastern, non ESPN plus. You

1656
01:15:23,800 --> 01:15:26,080
Speaker 2: can check that out from London. Better be about a

1657
01:15:26,160 --> 01:15:30,599
Speaker 2: minus nine hundred betting favorite in most that you see here.

1658
01:15:30,840 --> 01:15:33,160
Speaker 2: H yard's gonna He's probably gonna go out on the shield, Luke.

1659
01:15:33,240 --> 01:15:35,040
Speaker 2: So we'll see it. We'll see it right there. Hey,

1660
01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:37,519
Speaker 2: look real quick, I got a bonus topic six here

1661
01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:41,040
Speaker 2: of some quick hitters. Look, we've been very critical of h.

1662
01:15:41,320 --> 01:15:43,559
Speaker 2: Dana White's Power Slap League in a lot of ways,

1663
01:15:43,560 --> 01:15:46,200
Speaker 2: and look, try to tell tell you from our heart,

1664
01:15:46,200 --> 01:15:48,439
Speaker 2: our true beliefs. But we're also here to report the news.

1665
01:15:48,479 --> 01:15:51,880
Speaker 2: And Episode two of the Road to Power Slap sort

1666
01:15:51,920 --> 01:15:54,639
Speaker 2: of tough model brought to this new sport did air

1667
01:15:54,680 --> 01:15:58,040
Speaker 2: on TBS last night, and it appears the the overnight

1668
01:15:58,120 --> 01:16:03,120
Speaker 2: ratings have episode two up forty percent from the first episode,

1669
01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:05,360
Speaker 2: which you wondered if the first episode would get a

1670
01:16:05,360 --> 01:16:09,040
Speaker 2: big number out of morbid curiosity or if this controversy

1671
01:16:09,360 --> 01:16:11,400
Speaker 2: had either killed it or fueled it. Luke, how do

1672
01:16:11,400 --> 01:16:14,639
Speaker 2: you explain the big time turnaround here in week two?

1673
01:16:15,479 --> 01:16:17,840
Speaker 1: I'm told there was a difference in lead in programming,

1674
01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:19,920
Speaker 1: or that next week will be different as well. I

1675
01:16:19,920 --> 01:16:24,280
Speaker 1: don't quite understand the differences in the taxonomy of pro

1676
01:16:24,320 --> 01:16:27,320
Speaker 1: wrestling shows. I'll just say, let's see how it goes

1677
01:16:27,520 --> 01:16:29,600
Speaker 1: there might again, I was from the beginning, I was

1678
01:16:29,680 --> 01:16:32,960
Speaker 1: kind of skeptical that it could work, but agnostic because

1679
01:16:33,000 --> 01:16:35,200
Speaker 1: it's just hard to tell about fan preferences. There might

1680
01:16:35,200 --> 01:16:37,280
Speaker 1: be an audience for it. It's the dumbest fucking audience

1681
01:16:37,280 --> 01:16:40,080
Speaker 1: on planet Earth, but there might be one. Yeah, so

1682
01:16:40,160 --> 01:16:42,080
Speaker 1: you know, I guess we'll have to see. But you know,

1683
01:16:43,360 --> 01:16:45,719
Speaker 1: what else is there to say? Like we've told everyone

1684
01:16:45,760 --> 01:16:48,960
Speaker 1: we can tell about how moronic and bad it is.

1685
01:16:49,040 --> 01:16:50,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we don't need to beat that drum again.

1686
01:16:50,680 --> 01:16:52,400
Speaker 2: I mean, at this point, the choice is yours, folks,

1687
01:16:52,439 --> 01:16:54,519
Speaker 2: But I did want to report that that is an

1688
01:16:55,080 --> 01:16:58,280
Speaker 2: encouraging number. Not a great number, but forty percent turned

1689
01:16:58,280 --> 01:17:00,200
Speaker 2: from from a rough first week, especially with the big

1690
01:17:00,280 --> 01:17:03,000
Speaker 2: lead in of AEW. So, look, there's no UFC card

1691
01:17:03,040 --> 01:17:04,680
Speaker 2: this week. They'll be back with a fight night card

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01:17:04,720 --> 01:17:06,720
Speaker 2: the following league week, I believe, with Derek Lewis and

1693
01:17:06,760 --> 01:17:07,920
Speaker 2: Spivac on top.

1694
01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:12,200
Speaker 1: But so we're not gonna get.

1695
01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:13,519
Speaker 2: A oh yeah, that's vicious. So we're not gonna get

1696
01:17:13,520 --> 01:17:16,240
Speaker 2: like Dana at the Wednesday scrum or Saturday postfight, and

1697
01:17:16,240 --> 01:17:18,800
Speaker 2: obviously he didn't go to Brazil. I kind of feel

1698
01:17:18,800 --> 01:17:21,080
Speaker 2: like if the Power Slap League is going to survive

1699
01:17:21,240 --> 01:17:25,639
Speaker 2: by actually finding its audience and creating it. Dana talking

1700
01:17:25,760 --> 01:17:29,080
Speaker 2: less publicly actually supports this of happening because it keeps

1701
01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:33,200
Speaker 2: it keeps more negativity out of the headlines. There's already

1702
01:17:33,240 --> 01:17:37,200
Speaker 2: a negative angle rightfully so, cause you know, accompanying this

1703
01:17:37,320 --> 01:17:38,640
Speaker 2: in a lot of different ways, and we got one

1704
01:17:38,640 --> 01:17:40,280
Speaker 2: that we're gonna get to in a second. But in

1705
01:17:40,360 --> 01:17:42,360
Speaker 2: terms of like will this succeed or not on its

1706
01:17:42,360 --> 01:17:46,040
Speaker 2: own merits, dude, Dana staying out of the public headline

1707
01:17:46,080 --> 01:17:48,960
Speaker 2: space helps definitely helps, yes.

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01:17:49,040 --> 01:17:52,040
Speaker 1: And also power slap is just like this black hole

1709
01:17:52,160 --> 01:17:55,160
Speaker 1: of press where it's like Skip Bayless, say something nice

1710
01:17:55,200 --> 01:17:57,439
Speaker 1: about him, he loves it. Say something terrible about him.

1711
01:17:57,479 --> 01:17:59,800
Speaker 1: He loves it. Just as long as you're talking about him.

1712
01:18:00,080 --> 01:18:01,880
Speaker 1: That's all he really cares. Power slaps was wort have

1713
01:18:01,920 --> 01:18:03,000
Speaker 1: become that a little bit.

1714
01:18:03,240 --> 01:18:05,200
Speaker 2: All right. Here's where the main issue, though, that we've

1715
01:18:05,200 --> 01:18:07,920
Speaker 2: shared at length, don't need to share it again, is

1716
01:18:07,960 --> 01:18:09,800
Speaker 2: not just the grossness of the sport and the bad

1717
01:18:09,880 --> 01:18:12,280
Speaker 2: message it seems. But I've said it, dude, the thing

1718
01:18:12,320 --> 01:18:16,000
Speaker 2: that's going to trigger me is going after UFC fighters,

1719
01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:18,200
Speaker 2: you know, x or or even current that are on

1720
01:18:18,240 --> 01:18:21,080
Speaker 2: the way out. You shared that tweet and we talked

1721
01:18:21,120 --> 01:18:24,120
Speaker 2: about it Wednesday show. It was Eric Spiceley, the x

1722
01:18:24,200 --> 01:18:28,320
Speaker 2: UFC fighter who was offered two and two to join that.

1723
01:18:29,040 --> 01:18:32,000
Speaker 2: Our friend Mike Owen's media out there in Liverpool, Luke,

1724
01:18:32,040 --> 01:18:36,520
Speaker 2: who is working for what's the We'll see the attribution

1725
01:18:36,640 --> 01:18:39,040
Speaker 2: there was that the middle Easy Luke, he's doing his

1726
01:18:39,040 --> 01:18:42,240
Speaker 2: interview series on he caught up with Eric Nixon, friend

1727
01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:45,760
Speaker 2: of the program and Extreme Coture head coach. Let's throw

1728
01:18:45,800 --> 01:18:48,840
Speaker 2: to those comments right now regarding the slap league, who

1729
01:18:48,960 --> 01:18:49,599
Speaker 2: is the fighter?

1730
01:18:49,960 --> 01:18:53,000
Speaker 4: Have to understand that the risk reward, you know, we

1731
01:18:53,000 --> 01:18:56,080
Speaker 4: were offered Taylor Gardada was offered a spot on this

1732
01:18:56,200 --> 01:18:57,880
Speaker 4: and when they told me what the pay was, I'm like,

1733
01:18:58,120 --> 01:19:01,360
Speaker 4: this makes zero sense, zo sense for me to put

1734
01:19:01,439 --> 01:19:02,559
Speaker 4: this girl in this position.

1735
01:19:02,600 --> 01:19:05,439
Speaker 2: Now, if it was fifteen and fifteen and.

1736
01:19:05,360 --> 01:19:06,920
Speaker 4: She was at a time in her career where she

1737
01:19:06,960 --> 01:19:08,680
Speaker 4: could she can use the money, and I would I

1738
01:19:08,720 --> 01:19:10,400
Speaker 4: would present that to her. But the moment they told

1739
01:19:10,439 --> 01:19:11,960
Speaker 4: me that too, it was two and two for her

1740
01:19:12,560 --> 01:19:14,040
Speaker 4: and I was like, I was like Nick, like, I'm

1741
01:19:14,080 --> 01:19:15,840
Speaker 4: not I'm not putting my girl in this in this

1742
01:19:15,920 --> 01:19:17,800
Speaker 4: and he actually like he agreed with me. I know,

1743
01:19:17,800 --> 01:19:20,240
Speaker 4: I understand, but I'm like, it makes zero sense for

1744
01:19:20,280 --> 01:19:22,160
Speaker 4: me to even ask her if she wants to go

1745
01:19:22,200 --> 01:19:27,120
Speaker 4: do this right to possibly get knocked out, And what

1746
01:19:27,160 --> 01:19:29,000
Speaker 4: does it do to your future of your brain health

1747
01:19:29,000 --> 01:19:31,320
Speaker 4: and you and and you know, where does that put you?

1748
01:19:31,400 --> 01:19:33,360
Speaker 4: How far does it put you behind with concussions? And

1749
01:19:33,400 --> 01:19:35,720
Speaker 4: so it just makes zero sense to me, you know.

1750
01:19:35,800 --> 01:19:37,760
Speaker 4: And it's and and to me, it's like it's not

1751
01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:40,200
Speaker 4: hypocritical by any means when it comes to MMA, because

1752
01:19:40,240 --> 01:19:42,240
Speaker 4: you have the option and the ability to block and

1753
01:19:42,240 --> 01:19:44,720
Speaker 4: slip and roll and catch and counter, whereas this.

1754
01:19:44,800 --> 01:19:45,639
Speaker 2: You don't have that option.

1755
01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:47,280
Speaker 1: You're holding your hands behind.

1756
01:19:47,000 --> 01:19:48,760
Speaker 4: Your back and you're just waiting to get hit in

1757
01:19:48,760 --> 01:19:50,839
Speaker 4: the fucking head. It doesn't make any sense to me whatsoever.

1758
01:19:51,920 --> 01:19:55,800
Speaker 2: Okay, I love nixxck, who I respect to basically saying

1759
01:19:55,800 --> 01:19:57,320
Speaker 2: I'm not even going to offer that to my foot.

1760
01:19:57,320 --> 01:19:59,400
Speaker 2: I don't even want them to accept that. But look,

1761
01:19:59,439 --> 01:20:01,920
Speaker 2: the recruitment things seems real male and female here. They're

1762
01:20:01,920 --> 01:20:03,120
Speaker 2: going after anybody they can find.

1763
01:20:03,520 --> 01:20:06,320
Speaker 1: Also they're using UFC matchmakers to do it.

1764
01:20:07,120 --> 01:20:09,600
Speaker 2: I wish that's the part that made me like I

1765
01:20:09,680 --> 01:20:11,920
Speaker 2: want to throw up in my mouth. MC Maynard's calling

1766
01:20:11,960 --> 01:20:15,040
Speaker 2: you from the USC saying, we've got a power slap

1767
01:20:15,120 --> 01:20:19,040
Speaker 2: slot for your fighter. Who look, would you where's Taylor guardonto, FA, PFL,

1768
01:20:19,080 --> 01:20:19,920
Speaker 2: A couple other places.

1769
01:20:20,240 --> 01:20:22,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, and she is out of Extreme Co Tour obviously

1770
01:20:22,400 --> 01:20:23,520
Speaker 1: in Las Vegas.

1771
01:20:23,439 --> 01:20:27,000
Speaker 2: So she's you know, a name ish fighter that's currently

1772
01:20:27,040 --> 01:20:29,920
Speaker 2: not with the UFC, But like, yeah, Luke, that's who

1773
01:20:29,920 --> 01:20:31,840
Speaker 2: they're going after it around the South. And I don't know, dude,

1774
01:20:31,840 --> 01:20:33,799
Speaker 2: if you caught some of the characters that they're promoting,

1775
01:20:33,840 --> 01:20:36,200
Speaker 2: I saw it, because the UFC account still puts them out.

1776
01:20:36,200 --> 01:20:38,679
Speaker 2: There's like some guy named one Eyed something that they're

1777
01:20:38,760 --> 01:20:41,000
Speaker 2: you know, that they're selling as a badass. And then

1778
01:20:41,000 --> 01:20:43,400
Speaker 2: there's other guy who calls himselves slap Jesus. I mean,

1779
01:20:43,479 --> 01:20:46,280
Speaker 2: it's just like it's what you would expect, Luke, is

1780
01:20:46,320 --> 01:20:48,679
Speaker 2: really what you would expect. But hey, dude, I'm happy

1781
01:20:48,760 --> 01:20:51,479
Speaker 2: that there are people like Eric Nixon kind of holding

1782
01:20:51,520 --> 01:20:53,800
Speaker 2: the line at least and saying, like, what really, what

1783
01:20:53,960 --> 01:20:56,960
Speaker 2: are we doing here? But Luke, that's the news week two, big,

1784
01:20:57,000 --> 01:20:59,960
Speaker 2: big turnaround for Dana White and Company. And also, Luke,

1785
01:21:00,080 --> 01:21:02,920
Speaker 2: it's official. We knew Jake Paul was wanting to go

1786
01:21:02,960 --> 01:21:05,840
Speaker 2: in the direction here of a boxing return before the

1787
01:21:06,040 --> 01:21:10,040
Speaker 2: signed PFL MMA debut and take on Tommy Fury in

1788
01:21:10,120 --> 01:21:13,639
Speaker 2: England February twenty fifth. Here's what we found out. Yes,

1789
01:21:13,720 --> 01:21:17,280
Speaker 2: it will be airing on ESPN plus pay per view,

1790
01:21:17,760 --> 01:21:20,880
Speaker 2: but to take that even further, here's the somewhat surprising part.

1791
01:21:21,439 --> 01:21:23,760
Speaker 2: Jake Paul and MVP Promotions have agreed to sort of

1792
01:21:23,800 --> 01:21:27,320
Speaker 2: a co promotional deal here with Bob Aram's Top Rank,

1793
01:21:27,439 --> 01:21:30,000
Speaker 2: So this will be on ESPN plus pay per view,

1794
01:21:30,040 --> 01:21:32,320
Speaker 2: which in theory is going to be where Jake Paul's

1795
01:21:32,640 --> 01:21:34,600
Speaker 2: MMA pay per views are going to be under the

1796
01:21:34,600 --> 01:21:37,479
Speaker 2: PFL banner as he helps launch their super Fight pay

1797
01:21:37,479 --> 01:21:41,960
Speaker 2: per view league. Luke, how surprising are you that Bob Aram,

1798
01:21:42,000 --> 01:21:43,240
Speaker 2: of all people has now taken.

1799
01:21:43,080 --> 01:21:50,240
Speaker 1: Part well, top Rank is. I don't quite understand the

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01:21:50,240 --> 01:21:52,920
Speaker 1: top rank connection. What are they servicing here that makes

1801
01:21:52,920 --> 01:21:53,960
Speaker 1: Bob Aram a part of this?

1802
01:21:54,680 --> 01:21:57,960
Speaker 2: They have a co promotional deal, I mean Top Rank is,

1803
01:21:58,080 --> 01:22:01,160
Speaker 2: you know, the house promoter for ESPN. But it seems

1804
01:22:01,200 --> 01:22:03,280
Speaker 2: based on the way this was presented that you know

1805
01:22:03,320 --> 01:22:06,160
Speaker 2: they're going to use that same pr vehicle and you

1806
01:22:06,160 --> 01:22:08,439
Speaker 2: know and all that that goes with putting on that fight, and.

1807
01:22:09,080 --> 01:22:12,240
Speaker 1: I bet he would never have done it, you know, initially,

1808
01:22:12,520 --> 01:22:14,599
Speaker 1: but then you saw what Jake was able to do

1809
01:22:14,640 --> 01:22:16,479
Speaker 1: on Showtime pay per view, and you can tell that

1810
01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:19,439
Speaker 1: it looks like a real pay per view. Obviously it

1811
01:22:19,439 --> 01:22:20,719
Speaker 1: was a real pay per view. But what I'm saying

1812
01:22:20,720 --> 01:22:23,120
Speaker 1: like it had the feel it wasn't like Affliction where

1813
01:22:23,160 --> 01:22:24,200
Speaker 1: it's like, I don't know if it's going to be

1814
01:22:24,200 --> 01:22:29,080
Speaker 1: here tomorrow. Like it's a relatively for now professional looking,

1815
01:22:29,120 --> 01:22:32,040
Speaker 1: buttoned up, scalable thing. Just again, how far you can

1816
01:22:32,120 --> 01:22:34,120
Speaker 1: scale it as somewhat debatable, but that you can go

1817
01:22:34,200 --> 01:22:36,200
Speaker 1: further with it, at least for the time being, is

1818
01:22:36,479 --> 01:22:38,599
Speaker 1: quite real. So I think that's a big part of it.

1819
01:22:38,640 --> 01:22:42,200
Speaker 1: Tommy Fury is associated with obviously Tyson Fury, so there's

1820
01:22:42,200 --> 01:22:44,320
Speaker 1: probably something of a connection there. It's a boxing match.

1821
01:22:44,439 --> 01:22:47,120
Speaker 1: He's not boxing an MMA guy, which I think maybe

1822
01:22:47,240 --> 01:22:50,280
Speaker 1: Bob probably would be somewhat loath to do. The more

1823
01:22:50,280 --> 01:22:51,640
Speaker 1: interesting part to me is that they're going to do

1824
01:22:51,680 --> 01:22:54,519
Speaker 1: it in Saudi Arabia, right, So yes, he just wants

1825
01:22:54,560 --> 01:22:58,040
Speaker 1: some he wants some big cash. It looks like, yeah, yeah,

1826
01:22:58,640 --> 01:22:59,599
Speaker 1: he wants some oil money.

1827
01:22:59,640 --> 01:23:03,080
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, Jake officially leaving Showtime obviously now

1828
01:23:03,120 --> 01:23:05,960
Speaker 2: going to ESPN. But the co promotional thing with top rank,

1829
01:23:06,160 --> 01:23:09,320
Speaker 2: I'm surprised, really, But I wonder if it's a larger

1830
01:23:09,400 --> 01:23:13,840
Speaker 2: look at like Disney and ESPN collectively saying, Okay, who's

1831
01:23:13,840 --> 01:23:17,799
Speaker 2: out there that's disrupting, that's legitimately making headlines and views

1832
01:23:17,840 --> 01:23:20,920
Speaker 2: and you know, reaches that younger market. It is Jake Paul.

1833
01:23:20,960 --> 01:23:22,759
Speaker 2: But there is a you know, somewhat of a danger

1834
01:23:22,760 --> 01:23:25,040
Speaker 2: here in terms of the level of the partnership. There's

1835
01:23:25,080 --> 01:23:27,120
Speaker 2: going to be afternoon pay per views on the East coast,

1836
01:23:27,160 --> 01:23:28,880
Speaker 2: you know, will that sell on the same level. But

1837
01:23:29,400 --> 01:23:32,200
Speaker 2: now that MVP and Jake are all in with PFL

1838
01:23:32,240 --> 01:23:34,840
Speaker 2: to the level of like equity, I do wonder, Look,

1839
01:23:34,840 --> 01:23:37,439
Speaker 2: if this was just a larger get together of all

1840
01:23:37,479 --> 01:23:40,200
Speaker 2: the relevant parties Disney included, Who's just like, look, let's

1841
01:23:40,200 --> 01:23:42,720
Speaker 2: just put this guy completely under our banner and we

1842
01:23:42,800 --> 01:23:45,559
Speaker 2: can go hard and pushing it at those you know,

1843
01:23:45,640 --> 01:23:48,040
Speaker 2: at the younger way, at the younger age groups that

1844
01:23:48,120 --> 01:23:50,839
Speaker 2: he does bring into this. Is that that that feels

1845
01:23:50,880 --> 01:23:53,960
Speaker 2: like a collective power moved by everybody involved.

1846
01:23:54,320 --> 01:23:56,759
Speaker 1: It does. It's interesting that they would go this direction

1847
01:23:57,160 --> 01:23:59,960
Speaker 1: also though it could just be more of couldn't it, right?

1848
01:24:00,160 --> 01:24:03,360
Speaker 1: Couldn't it be somewhat ceremonial that, like, you know, we're

1849
01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:05,960
Speaker 1: gonna put Top Rank in a co promotion role with

1850
01:24:06,080 --> 01:24:09,200
Speaker 1: m VP, and it's somewhat ceremonial, like we're gonna give

1851
01:24:09,240 --> 01:24:11,280
Speaker 1: our name, but really like the bulk of the Top

1852
01:24:11,320 --> 01:24:13,160
Speaker 1: Ranks not gonna do a lot to help, like it

1853
01:24:13,160 --> 01:24:14,679
Speaker 1: will actually just be whatever.

1854
01:24:15,400 --> 01:24:18,120
Speaker 2: If they have an under do they fill out the undercard?

1855
01:24:18,120 --> 01:24:20,320
Speaker 2: Do they handle you know, everything of the you know,

1856
01:24:20,400 --> 01:24:24,080
Speaker 2: on site promotional duties. I don't know. I mean, we'll see.

1857
01:24:24,520 --> 01:24:26,400
Speaker 2: It is interesting though, but Luke, but also.

1858
01:24:26,200 --> 01:24:28,880
Speaker 1: Don't like when the shows on Showtime like the press

1859
01:24:28,880 --> 01:24:31,880
Speaker 1: conference that was an MVP production. Yes, when he did

1860
01:24:31,960 --> 01:24:34,679
Speaker 1: the media day with the Horse, that was Jake's show,

1861
01:24:34,840 --> 01:24:37,799
Speaker 1: like Showtime Digital aired it, but that was his show,

1862
01:24:38,200 --> 01:24:40,800
Speaker 1: so he had to do all that heavy lifting. I

1863
01:24:40,840 --> 01:24:43,240
Speaker 1: would imagine like Top Rank is gonna do that for him?

1864
01:24:43,240 --> 01:24:45,479
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't. I'll just be curious to see

1865
01:24:45,520 --> 01:24:46,559
Speaker 1: what role they actually play.

1866
01:24:46,920 --> 01:24:48,719
Speaker 2: I wonder, you know, and I don't know the details

1867
01:24:48,720 --> 01:24:50,320
Speaker 2: of the of the length of the deal. Is this

1868
01:24:50,479 --> 01:24:52,599
Speaker 2: just a one off because Top Rank has close connection

1869
01:24:52,680 --> 01:24:55,000
Speaker 2: to the Fury family, so it just makes sense, and

1870
01:24:55,040 --> 01:24:57,840
Speaker 2: you can have you know, think about it, think about

1871
01:24:57,840 --> 01:25:00,600
Speaker 2: this from the top rank ESPN side gonna want to

1872
01:25:00,600 --> 01:25:04,280
Speaker 2: sell probably after this Fury versus U Sik you canna

1873
01:25:04,280 --> 01:25:07,040
Speaker 2: have Tyson Fury there on the broadcast in the corner

1874
01:25:07,320 --> 01:25:09,680
Speaker 2: with the ESPN announcer, you know what I mean. Like it's

1875
01:25:09,720 --> 01:25:12,679
Speaker 2: all it all comes together to kind of like say, hey,

1876
01:25:12,720 --> 01:25:14,599
Speaker 2: by the way, young boxing fan, if you came in

1877
01:25:14,640 --> 01:25:17,160
Speaker 2: here just for Jake, this guy Fury's brother is in

1878
01:25:17,200 --> 01:25:18,760
Speaker 2: a real fight, you know, Like there's there's some of

1879
01:25:18,760 --> 01:25:22,360
Speaker 2: that too that goes to good in the planning. Look,

1880
01:25:22,479 --> 01:25:26,000
Speaker 2: we're talking about people that jump through our screens. Sometimes

1881
01:25:26,000 --> 01:25:28,800
Speaker 2: that's Jake Paul. But how about when we're talking about

1882
01:25:28,840 --> 01:25:31,120
Speaker 2: it on the level of a hammer, you know, particularly

1883
01:25:31,120 --> 01:25:33,719
Speaker 2: from our friends over there Money Lion. We're getting closer

1884
01:25:34,000 --> 01:25:36,040
Speaker 2: to the end of the month, and obviously that means

1885
01:25:36,040 --> 01:25:40,800
Speaker 2: it's time to select the third Money Lion Hammer of

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1887
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Speaker 2: a rock. Yeah, we're looking at spotlighting undercard fighters, those

1888
01:25:46,560 --> 01:25:49,280
Speaker 2: early in the main card. Basically who's coming on in

1889
01:25:49,320 --> 01:25:53,320
Speaker 2: your preferred promotion and combat sport this month, Luke, We've

1890
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1893
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Speaker 2: who was the one you were pushing hardl Bondfime? Yes, yeah,

1894
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1895
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1900
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Speaker 2: Twitter at money Lion Inc. On Instagram, you can use

1901
01:26:27,640 --> 01:26:30,680
Speaker 2: that hashtag Hammer of the Month, Holy Hammer. Whatever you

1902
01:26:30,720 --> 01:26:32,960
Speaker 2: want to do, but it gets our attention and you

1903
01:26:33,000 --> 01:26:34,840
Speaker 2: get to vote right along with us, Luke. Let's see

1904
01:26:34,840 --> 01:26:38,040
Speaker 2: who gets it, Iliot Taporia. In month two, Aaron Blanchehfield

1905
01:26:38,120 --> 01:26:41,080
Speaker 2: got the inaugural one in person. Look, I get where

1906
01:26:41,160 --> 01:26:43,520
Speaker 2: is our shipping team? I gotta find out? Does Taporia

1907
01:26:43,560 --> 01:26:45,240
Speaker 2: have his hands around the shaft right now?

1908
01:26:45,320 --> 01:26:48,240
Speaker 1: Luke? So I actually am in contact with his management.

1909
01:26:48,560 --> 01:26:50,200
Speaker 1: I'm about to fix this problem.

1910
01:26:50,600 --> 01:26:53,080
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, we need it. We need to see that

1911
01:26:53,160 --> 01:26:56,480
Speaker 2: the hammer got into his his you know, his his airspace.

1912
01:26:56,479 --> 01:26:59,439
Speaker 2: There love it? So three days left to vote. Go

1913
01:26:59,479 --> 01:27:02,320
Speaker 2: to morning Won't excuse me? Go to moneyline dot com

1914
01:27:02,360 --> 01:27:07,400
Speaker 2: slash Morning Combat uh for more information Hammer time. Yes,

1915
01:27:07,520 --> 01:27:09,360
Speaker 2: you think a boxer will ever win that? Hammer, Luke,

1916
01:27:09,360 --> 01:27:11,160
Speaker 2: There's too many great MMA guys at the moment.

1917
01:27:12,400 --> 01:27:14,760
Speaker 1: I think eventually it's gonna take something special though.

1918
01:27:15,320 --> 01:27:18,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, Uh, Luke. Sometimes we f up though on the show,

1919
01:27:18,240 --> 01:27:20,880
Speaker 2: and I'm sorry about that, okay, But unlike your other

1920
01:27:21,320 --> 01:27:22,799
Speaker 2: I don't think that sorry.

1921
01:27:23,439 --> 01:27:24,120
Speaker 1: Unlike your other.

1922
01:27:24,040 --> 01:27:28,280
Speaker 2: Favorite shows that I know you're still watching. Uh, we

1923
01:27:28,320 --> 01:27:30,200
Speaker 2: are we you to a segment every Friday where you

1924
01:27:30,280 --> 01:27:32,400
Speaker 2: give we give you a chance to put us on trial,

1925
01:27:32,520 --> 01:27:34,479
Speaker 2: okay for us on high court.

1926
01:27:34,880 --> 01:27:35,040
Speaker 1: Uh.

1927
01:27:35,120 --> 01:27:38,320
Speaker 2: Morningcombat at gmail dot com is the email address to

1928
01:27:38,360 --> 01:27:40,320
Speaker 2: find Mikey on the end of that tunnel and tell

1929
01:27:40,360 --> 01:27:44,360
Speaker 2: him that something bc RLT did was stupid and on

1930
01:27:44,400 --> 01:27:50,760
Speaker 2: top of that, it was dead wrong. M All right, Luke,

1931
01:27:50,920 --> 01:27:54,559
Speaker 2: here's bo sliding in, he says. On episode three oh nine,

1932
01:27:54,640 --> 01:27:58,200
Speaker 2: Luke talks about the Woodstock ninety nine documentary and states

1933
01:27:58,240 --> 01:28:02,240
Speaker 2: that after Corn played in figuratively lit the place on fire,

1934
01:28:02,720 --> 01:28:05,759
Speaker 2: Bush had to follow them up and they seemingly calmed

1935
01:28:05,800 --> 01:28:08,519
Speaker 2: the crowd. Well, that is dead wrong. Bush had to

1936
01:28:08,600 --> 01:28:13,120
Speaker 2: follow Limp Biscuit, and then Corn followed Bush, and that's

1937
01:28:13,160 --> 01:28:16,439
Speaker 2: when things literally and figuratively got all lit on fire.

1938
01:28:16,680 --> 01:28:18,680
Speaker 2: I would expect a couple of washed up freaks on

1939
01:28:18,720 --> 01:28:21,400
Speaker 2: a leash to get this right, but you probably just

1940
01:28:21,439 --> 01:28:24,479
Speaker 2: did it all for the nookie. God, that's hilarious. Damn,

1941
01:28:24,520 --> 01:28:26,280
Speaker 2: that's such a lame dad jokes.

1942
01:28:26,320 --> 01:28:27,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, fair enough. I mean they had to go out

1943
01:28:27,760 --> 01:28:29,160
Speaker 1: after a crazy scenario.

1944
01:28:29,280 --> 01:28:33,800
Speaker 2: It's sort of Luke, you're no stranger to to. You know,

1945
01:28:34,439 --> 01:28:36,960
Speaker 2: what's that term when when someone's funny but not you know,

1946
01:28:37,040 --> 01:28:39,719
Speaker 2: they didn't try to be, that's just who they are.

1947
01:28:40,240 --> 01:28:40,720
Speaker 2: You're kind of.

1948
01:28:40,760 --> 01:28:42,000
Speaker 1: Laughing at them.

1949
01:28:42,240 --> 01:28:45,120
Speaker 2: No, like, uh, what's the term? What's the damn term?

1950
01:28:45,240 --> 01:28:47,720
Speaker 2: It's you know when you when you when something anyway

1951
01:28:48,120 --> 01:28:53,719
Speaker 2: your your Yeah, there you go, No one cares. Nobody

1952
01:28:53,720 --> 01:28:56,720
Speaker 2: cares a great I think I just had an aneurism

1953
01:28:56,800 --> 01:28:58,720
Speaker 2: right there, Look there you go, there you go.

1954
01:28:58,800 --> 01:28:59,160
Speaker 1: All right.

1955
01:28:59,280 --> 01:29:01,799
Speaker 2: It was probably a about woodstock and it was probably awesome.

1956
01:29:01,920 --> 01:29:06,840
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Luke, the one time in this life that

1957
01:29:06,880 --> 01:29:08,720
Speaker 2: you didn't do your hair before MK and you were

1958
01:29:08,720 --> 01:29:11,240
Speaker 2: feeling like a pos and we filmed that episode that time,

1959
01:29:11,439 --> 01:29:14,559
Speaker 2: and you put on a red Yankee sat like you were.

1960
01:29:15,280 --> 01:29:18,680
Speaker 2: It wasn't red you did, yeah, but it had like

1961
01:29:18,720 --> 01:29:20,479
Speaker 2: the different cut like it was definitely one of those

1962
01:29:20,479 --> 01:29:21,920
Speaker 2: that like the equivalent.

1963
01:29:23,000 --> 01:29:25,439
Speaker 1: Dude, I only have one Yankees hat. It's black on black.

1964
01:29:26,320 --> 01:29:28,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's not the official Yankees hat. It's like

1965
01:29:28,040 --> 01:29:30,479
Speaker 2: the olympiskuit doctor version, like the Freddurst original.

1966
01:29:30,520 --> 01:29:33,000
Speaker 1: Right, It's like it's means I bought it at the

1967
01:29:33,280 --> 01:29:34,519
Speaker 1: hat store, so I don't you know.

1968
01:29:34,760 --> 01:29:37,280
Speaker 2: All right, it was great, Luke, it was great. Let's

1969
01:29:37,320 --> 01:29:39,519
Speaker 2: go from here, go over to Harry, he says. About

1970
01:29:39,600 --> 01:29:42,599
Speaker 2: ninety minutes into the jan twenty three episode, Luke read

1971
01:29:42,640 --> 01:29:44,920
Speaker 2: a question from a Liam and said that the name

1972
01:29:44,960 --> 01:29:47,760
Speaker 2: Liam is one of those things Americans just don't do.

1973
01:29:48,240 --> 01:29:51,200
Speaker 2: Another thing we apparently don't do is research. Liam has

1974
01:29:51,200 --> 01:29:53,400
Speaker 2: been a top five most common baby name in the

1975
01:29:53,520 --> 01:30:00,200
Speaker 2: US for eleven straight years. Don't cluingly sorry, consecutive that

1976
01:30:00,400 --> 01:30:04,280
Speaker 2: number one. Luke is hanging around the top fifty, but

1977
01:30:04,400 --> 01:30:06,920
Speaker 2: not nearly as popular as his friend kas.

1978
01:30:07,040 --> 01:30:10,200
Speaker 1: In your fucking life, have you met a Liam who

1979
01:30:10,320 --> 01:30:11,479
Speaker 1: was from the United States?

1980
01:30:11,520 --> 01:30:14,280
Speaker 2: From the United States? Yeah, because my kids age. You know,

1981
01:30:14,320 --> 01:30:16,479
Speaker 2: there's a lot of Liams around, Luke. I'm not kidding them.

1982
01:30:16,520 --> 01:30:19,320
Speaker 1: So I've looked at my kids elementary school, which goes

1983
01:30:19,320 --> 01:30:21,719
Speaker 1: through fifth grade. There's not one fucking Liam in there.

1984
01:30:21,760 --> 01:30:24,840
Speaker 1: Not one. Sorry, don't believe that. Don't buy it at all.

1985
01:30:25,120 --> 01:30:27,000
Speaker 1: You've got it from like you got from like Luke

1986
01:30:27,160 --> 01:30:30,080
Speaker 1: Nanny's closet dot com. Yeah, you go to it at all.

1987
01:30:30,280 --> 01:30:33,240
Speaker 2: She goes to a Spanish speaking school. Liams don't speak Spanish.

1988
01:30:33,280 --> 01:30:33,840
Speaker 2: Ohkick him on.

1989
01:30:34,160 --> 01:30:36,640
Speaker 1: The majority of the kids are English speaking, white kids, Like,

1990
01:30:36,680 --> 01:30:39,120
Speaker 1: what are you talking about? This is the language of

1991
01:30:39,120 --> 01:30:41,200
Speaker 1: the school is different, but the kids are there. There's

1992
01:30:41,200 --> 01:30:43,880
Speaker 1: black kids and there's Asian kids. Not one is named Liam.

1993
01:30:43,920 --> 01:30:47,519
Speaker 1: There's I'm telling you, there's like five Americans named Liam.

1994
01:30:47,600 --> 01:30:49,439
Speaker 1: And this is a fucking lie. I don't believe that.

1995
01:30:49,560 --> 01:30:51,640
Speaker 2: I don't think Dad's tell you differently. They said the

1996
01:30:51,720 --> 01:30:54,120
Speaker 2: name Brian had a solid top ten run every year

1997
01:30:54,160 --> 01:30:57,320
Speaker 2: from nineteen sixty seven to seventy eight, Luke, which happens

1998
01:30:57,320 --> 01:30:59,200
Speaker 2: to be the year I was born. But much like

1999
01:30:59,280 --> 01:31:02,839
Speaker 2: some people's liver functioning, the name has seen a gradual

2000
01:31:02,960 --> 01:31:05,479
Speaker 2: decline since and is now in the three hundreds. Yes,

2001
01:31:05,560 --> 01:31:07,519
Speaker 2: there's too many Brian's out there anyway, who are right

2002
01:31:07,560 --> 01:31:10,040
Speaker 2: around washed time zone themselves.

2003
01:31:10,360 --> 01:31:12,439
Speaker 1: Let's go over to I just want to be very

2004
01:31:12,439 --> 01:31:13,000
Speaker 1: clear about that.

2005
01:31:13,720 --> 01:31:16,160
Speaker 2: Wow, Luke, guess who just dead wrong? Ues? Hey, Luke

2006
01:31:16,200 --> 01:31:19,719
Speaker 2: in BC, it's Liverpool's Mike Owens right here, Mike Owens Media.

2007
01:31:20,520 --> 01:31:23,000
Speaker 2: On Monday's episode. At the forty four to fifty mark

2008
01:31:23,080 --> 01:31:27,280
Speaker 2: Luke asks what year was it when Glover beat Prohatska

2009
01:31:27,479 --> 01:31:30,439
Speaker 2: As you'll recall, Glover beat Blakhovich to win the belt,

2010
01:31:31,439 --> 01:31:35,200
Speaker 2: losing it to Yeary last year, an honest mistake, but

2011
01:31:35,240 --> 01:31:38,200
Speaker 2: a mistake nonetheless, hope to talk to you soon. It's

2012
01:31:38,240 --> 01:31:41,760
Speaker 2: Mike Owens Media. Love that guy. Yeah, all right, Finally, Luke,

2013
01:31:41,800 --> 01:31:45,519
Speaker 2: we got John who's gonna Wow, they're coming after you noticed, Luke.

2014
01:31:45,520 --> 01:31:47,120
Speaker 2: I don't think I got I got tagged in any

2015
01:31:47,160 --> 01:31:48,200
Speaker 2: of these today.

2016
01:31:48,560 --> 01:31:51,360
Speaker 1: Some just listen. Some days it's even and some days

2017
01:31:51,360 --> 01:31:52,200
Speaker 1: you take the beating.

2018
01:31:52,400 --> 01:31:54,280
Speaker 2: But today I mean I'm taking the beating in our

2019
01:31:54,320 --> 01:31:57,840
Speaker 2: in our in our okay, bet uh showdown right now,

2020
01:31:57,880 --> 01:31:59,479
Speaker 2: I'm taking a slacking all right.

2021
01:31:59,479 --> 01:32:01,800
Speaker 1: Oh wait, we didn't. We didn't get to like last

2022
01:32:01,800 --> 01:32:03,880
Speaker 1: week's results. We have to talk about that. You fucking

2023
01:32:03,920 --> 01:32:05,280
Speaker 1: got every one of them wrong.

2024
01:32:07,040 --> 01:32:09,760
Speaker 2: You know I was close, man, right, Lord Murphy killed me.

2025
01:32:09,840 --> 01:32:11,240
Speaker 2: I mean, you're killing me, Lord Murphy.

2026
01:32:11,560 --> 01:32:12,840
Speaker 1: This whole time, I've been like, I don't know if

2027
01:32:12,880 --> 01:32:14,479
Speaker 1: it's a good idea for us to do a betting show,

2028
01:32:14,479 --> 01:32:16,200
Speaker 1: Like we're not betters, we don't, we don't do this

2029
01:32:16,320 --> 01:32:17,519
Speaker 1: kind of shit. And everyone in the show is like,

2030
01:32:17,640 --> 01:32:19,640
Speaker 1: you'll just do it. Quit being a fucking bitch and

2031
01:32:19,760 --> 01:32:21,680
Speaker 1: just do it. So we did it, and it turns out,

2032
01:32:21,720 --> 01:32:23,719
Speaker 1: first of all, I'm not good at it like I did. Okay,

2033
01:32:23,760 --> 01:32:25,439
Speaker 1: I got two f five in the last week. I

2034
01:32:25,439 --> 01:32:27,719
Speaker 1: got four or five the first one, so I'm averaging,

2035
01:32:27,760 --> 01:32:31,000
Speaker 1: you know, an okay number fucking BC hasn't gotten one

2036
01:32:31,080 --> 01:32:31,599
Speaker 1: right yet.

2037
01:32:31,720 --> 01:32:33,639
Speaker 2: No, I did get one right, I didn't get one

2038
01:32:33,760 --> 01:32:36,400
Speaker 2: one right. Yeah, I think I'm like one in one

2039
01:32:36,680 --> 01:32:37,840
Speaker 2: nine or something like that.

2040
01:32:38,000 --> 01:32:42,600
Speaker 1: Well, the overall, like you know, our records together not

2041
01:32:42,760 --> 01:32:44,560
Speaker 1: distinguished in this regard.

2042
01:32:45,200 --> 01:32:47,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I'm bad with gambling. That's why I

2043
01:32:48,000 --> 01:32:50,759
Speaker 2: don't do it. I I get emotional, Luke, I follow

2044
01:32:50,840 --> 01:32:52,720
Speaker 2: my heart and it leads me down some uh some

2045
01:32:52,840 --> 01:32:54,760
Speaker 2: dark places. But I was close on a lot of these.

2046
01:32:54,800 --> 01:32:56,760
Speaker 2: I just got screwed over in the end. But I

2047
01:32:56,840 --> 01:32:58,800
Speaker 2: got a long time to come back, Luke, before I

2048
01:32:58,800 --> 01:33:01,080
Speaker 2: have to show up with some stupid dark metal show.

2049
01:33:01,080 --> 01:33:02,800
Speaker 2: I'm gonna make a I'm gonna make a turnaround here.

2050
01:33:02,800 --> 01:33:03,439
Speaker 2: You're gonna see it.

2051
01:33:03,479 --> 01:33:05,600
Speaker 1: Okay, So maybe maybe i'll say, you know what, I

2052
01:33:05,600 --> 01:33:07,680
Speaker 1: think the worst thing for you, because you're like low

2053
01:33:07,720 --> 01:33:10,240
Speaker 1: key a little racist, is I'm gonna take you to

2054
01:33:13,160 --> 01:33:14,000
Speaker 1: I said, Loki.

2055
01:33:14,880 --> 01:33:17,439
Speaker 2: Not even true, not even close. Go ahead, I mean

2056
01:33:17,600 --> 01:33:20,120
Speaker 2: this happened, Yes, this happened, Luke, it happened.

2057
01:33:20,120 --> 01:33:22,479
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take I'm gonna take you to like like

2058
01:33:22,600 --> 01:33:28,120
Speaker 1: something like super fucking artsy FARTSI in Spanish, like the

2059
01:33:28,160 --> 01:33:30,160
Speaker 1: worst possible thing I could get for you.

2060
01:33:30,600 --> 01:33:33,080
Speaker 2: And all right, I got a translator named Tuki. It's fine,

2061
01:33:33,360 --> 01:33:35,240
Speaker 2: I'll be fine. All right. We got one more dead

2062
01:33:35,280 --> 01:33:38,439
Speaker 2: wrong from John here. I submit my formal request to

2063
01:33:38,560 --> 01:33:41,840
Speaker 2: expose one of you for being dead wrong. At fifty

2064
01:33:41,840 --> 01:33:44,799
Speaker 2: one oh six of episode four oh one, our favorite

2065
01:33:44,840 --> 01:33:48,640
Speaker 2: non fighting fighting commenter, Luke, references that Dan Hooker is

2066
01:33:48,760 --> 01:33:52,360
Speaker 2: fighting Jalen Turner at UFC two eighty five on March fourth,

2067
01:33:52,760 --> 01:33:57,639
Speaker 2: Luke stated that this will obviously be in Australia or Perth.

2068
01:33:58,200 --> 01:34:01,679
Speaker 2: That is indeed dead wrong, while in fact Hooker Turner

2069
01:34:01,720 --> 01:34:04,680
Speaker 2: will be going down at UFC two eighty five. It

2070
01:34:04,760 --> 01:34:07,439
Speaker 2: is located in the fight capital of the world, Las Vegas,

2071
01:34:07,600 --> 01:34:08,440
Speaker 2: not Australia.

2072
01:34:08,479 --> 01:34:11,519
Speaker 1: But yeah, I had, sorry, I had, I missed up

2073
01:34:11,560 --> 01:34:12,599
Speaker 1: the dates. Yes, fair enough.

2074
01:34:13,080 --> 01:34:16,519
Speaker 2: That also good Luke is thinking of must be two

2075
01:34:16,560 --> 01:34:19,160
Speaker 2: eighty four, which is happening February eleventh. Did you make

2076
01:34:19,200 --> 01:34:23,160
Speaker 2: an assumption that Hooker was taking another ill advised, highly

2077
01:34:23,200 --> 01:34:26,519
Speaker 2: profitable short notice fight. Oh how the mighty have fallen?

2078
01:34:26,680 --> 01:34:27,960
Speaker 2: Sit on that? L Luke?

2079
01:34:28,520 --> 01:34:31,920
Speaker 1: Wow, Oh my god. This is another dead wrong. That

2080
01:34:32,000 --> 01:34:34,960
Speaker 1: is fucking stupid because I didn't say, okay, they're like

2081
01:34:35,280 --> 01:34:37,439
Speaker 1: Luke said at one forty one of whatever episode it

2082
01:34:37,560 --> 01:34:39,320
Speaker 1: was that I hope Neil Young will remember a so

2083
01:34:39,320 --> 01:34:42,000
Speaker 1: other man doesn't need a run anyhow. It's from Sweet Home, Alabama,

2084
01:34:42,040 --> 01:34:44,680
Speaker 1: not Freebird. I didn't say it was from Freebird. I

2085
01:34:44,680 --> 01:34:47,000
Speaker 1: said it was from the band Alabama, and then I

2086
01:34:47,120 --> 01:34:49,679
Speaker 1: liked that line. I didn't. I'm not under the assumption

2087
01:34:49,800 --> 01:34:51,080
Speaker 1: It's like dude's.

2088
01:34:51,200 --> 01:34:52,920
Speaker 2: Didn't see the band Alabama.

2089
01:34:53,520 --> 01:34:57,000
Speaker 1: A Southern man don't need him around anyhow. Literally, the

2090
01:34:57,080 --> 01:35:00,720
Speaker 1: next words are sweet Home, Ma or not Alabama? What

2091
01:35:00,760 --> 01:35:02,760
Speaker 1: am I saying? Let skin her the band? There's also

2092
01:35:02,800 --> 01:35:04,640
Speaker 1: a country band called Alabama. Sorry, they have a lot

2093
01:35:04,640 --> 01:35:06,840
Speaker 1: of number one hits. You get thing what I'm trying

2094
01:35:06,840 --> 01:35:08,519
Speaker 1: to point out here. I know it's from that song.

2095
01:35:08,600 --> 01:35:10,799
Speaker 2: I know it's you're stepping in dead wrong bear traps

2096
01:35:10,880 --> 01:35:12,360
Speaker 2: left and right as you try to explain this, but

2097
01:35:12,479 --> 01:35:14,840
Speaker 2: because I tried to making it worse. But that was

2098
01:35:14,840 --> 01:35:17,600
Speaker 2: a bonus dead wrong from King One More, a.

2099
01:35:17,600 --> 01:35:19,800
Speaker 1: Bunch of people wrote in I had corrected myself on air,

2100
01:35:19,840 --> 01:35:21,800
Speaker 1: but for folks who want to know, we had talked

2101
01:35:21,800 --> 01:35:24,200
Speaker 1: about whose tattoo was it? Someone who had the Japanese

2102
01:35:24,240 --> 01:35:27,120
Speaker 1: tattoo had the big honya mask. Yeah, that was Spilka

2103
01:35:27,520 --> 01:35:29,000
Speaker 1: Spilka yeah. And then I was like, oh, yeah, the

2104
01:35:29,040 --> 01:35:30,840
Speaker 1: marijuana leaf. And then I corrected it was a maple

2105
01:35:30,920 --> 01:35:32,920
Speaker 1: leaf in real time. Yes, there was other people who

2106
01:35:32,960 --> 01:35:34,960
Speaker 1: wrote in that was a Japanese maple leaf, the jap

2107
01:35:35,000 --> 01:35:36,599
Speaker 1: I have this book. I've not finished it yet. As

2108
01:35:36,640 --> 01:35:38,800
Speaker 1: you can well tell, my research has done from this.

2109
01:35:39,000 --> 01:35:41,720
Speaker 1: The Japanese maple leaf PC has a very special name.

2110
01:35:41,800 --> 01:35:42,920
Speaker 1: Let me read it to you. I think it's called

2111
01:35:42,920 --> 01:35:43,519
Speaker 1: like maji.

2112
01:35:44,360 --> 01:35:44,719
Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 1: It starts with an M. It actually has the same letter.

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01:35:48,240 --> 01:35:52,280
Speaker 1: It is known as a sorry no a momiji, which

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01:35:52,320 --> 01:35:55,120
Speaker 1: is the maple leaf. So there want more to study

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01:35:55,160 --> 01:35:57,679
Speaker 1: like I need to study, you can get Japanese Tattoos,

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01:35:57,680 --> 01:36:01,080
Speaker 1: which is by Yori Mariarty Moriarty Luke.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't go near that book.

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Speaker 1: Okay, it's really good. Like the history, there's just.

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Speaker 2: A lot of ash cheeks I can tell already in

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Speaker 2: that book.

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01:36:08,720 --> 01:36:11,519
Speaker 1: It's just a lot of uh, it's a lot of uh. Anyway,

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01:36:11,560 --> 01:36:12,840
Speaker 1: the stuff that I'm going to get on my sleeve,

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01:36:12,840 --> 01:36:14,880
Speaker 1: which is by the way, already booked, I don't have

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01:36:14,920 --> 01:36:16,320
Speaker 1: any of that. I don't want any of that. So

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01:36:16,479 --> 01:36:17,599
Speaker 1: that's why I didn't know about it.

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01:36:17,800 --> 01:36:20,519
Speaker 2: So you okay, thank you everybody for the dead wrongs.

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Speaker 2: Morning Combat at gmail dot com is the email address.

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01:36:24,200 --> 01:36:27,519
Speaker 2: Same for Wednesday's fan subs, which will be making a comeback.

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01:36:28,200 --> 01:36:28,320
Speaker 3: Uh.

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01:36:28,520 --> 01:36:30,639
Speaker 2: Of course, you guys just have to dig in a little.

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01:36:30,680 --> 01:36:30,960
Speaker 2: We'll see.

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01:36:31,560 --> 01:36:33,440
Speaker 1: Just stop putting explicit pornography.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: I think I think that one under question. I think

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01:36:37,200 --> 01:36:39,320
Speaker 2: it deserves the light to day. We'll find out. I

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01:36:39,360 --> 01:36:40,519
Speaker 2: wonder there was one.

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01:36:40,320 --> 01:36:43,080
Speaker 1: That they pulled that I thought was borderline, but I'm

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01:36:43,120 --> 01:36:44,400
Speaker 1: just saying, like we just do you know?

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01:36:44,479 --> 01:36:47,880
Speaker 2: There was a tandem effort that was Appy and Jay

2141
01:36:47,880 --> 01:36:50,800
Speaker 2: Piquette teaming up our co Donks of the Year Luke.

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01:36:50,840 --> 01:36:53,040
Speaker 2: They teamed up for that. I thought, I don't know,

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01:36:55,160 --> 01:36:57,600
Speaker 2: show I would like to. We'd have to talk to

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01:36:57,600 --> 01:36:59,400
Speaker 2: our team because I think both of those gentlemen will

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01:36:59,439 --> 01:37:02,160
Speaker 2: be in attend and you know the boss lady as well,

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01:37:02,200 --> 01:37:04,120
Speaker 2: Don Piquette will be there as well. I mean, we'll see,

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01:37:04,160 --> 01:37:06,479
Speaker 2: you know, we got we We have questions for Dawn

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01:37:06,479 --> 01:37:08,679
Speaker 2: about Jay. Does he work Luke? I think he works

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01:37:08,720 --> 01:37:09,760
Speaker 2: on the show all right.

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01:37:09,800 --> 01:37:12,040
Speaker 1: Who will be more excited to see us in London

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01:37:12,920 --> 01:37:14,439
Speaker 1: or excuse me, who will be more excited about our

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01:37:14,520 --> 01:37:17,679
Speaker 1: London trip? Jay and his wife or anyone in my family?

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01:37:17,680 --> 01:37:18,240
Speaker 1: What do you think?

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01:37:21,479 --> 01:37:24,719
Speaker 2: You can get your tickets right now for pod Live Wednesday,

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01:37:24,720 --> 01:37:27,439
Speaker 2: February eighth at the King's Place Music Hall there in

2156
01:37:27,479 --> 01:37:30,920
Speaker 2: the King's Court section of London, a ninety minute live

2157
01:37:31,000 --> 01:37:35,200
Speaker 2: show the Podlive Festival with Dan Hardy, brought to you

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Speaker 2: by the Sports Podcast Group. They named us best MMA

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Speaker 2: show of twenty twenty two and best Sports podcast That's

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01:37:41,040 --> 01:37:44,040
Speaker 2: because you folks, the new folks are crazy. But if

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Speaker 2: you want to get even crazier and show up at

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01:37:46,680 --> 01:37:48,519
Speaker 2: our live show, or even if you can't make it,

2163
01:37:48,560 --> 01:37:51,080
Speaker 2: but you want to be there in spirit right now.

2164
01:37:51,160 --> 01:37:55,360
Speaker 2: Our London collection is available on our merch House Morningcombat

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Speaker 2: Dot store. We have three new shirts, two of them

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01:37:59,000 --> 01:38:03,920
Speaker 2: London related, particularly to our MK in the UK Live

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01:38:03,960 --> 01:38:06,240
Speaker 2: show which look, it's funny that MK in the UK

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01:38:06,320 --> 01:38:08,280
Speaker 2: Live show has the time on it or in the date,

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01:38:08,560 --> 01:38:11,200
Speaker 2: but it's listed you know, us style of the date.

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Speaker 1: I got a note about that as well, so they

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01:38:13,160 --> 01:38:16,400
Speaker 1: wanted it to be I guess day UK year and

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01:38:16,439 --> 01:38:19,559
Speaker 1: then American style is month day year whatever.

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01:38:19,680 --> 01:38:21,720
Speaker 2: I mean, whatever, but I will say great shirts and

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Speaker 2: our GTA one. I'm telling you it's gonna be our

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01:38:24,400 --> 01:38:26,040
Speaker 2: number one shirt by the end of the run.

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Speaker 1: Luke.

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you, I think it's going to pass the

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01:38:28,160 --> 01:38:31,080
Speaker 2: morning hull of that gross piece of phil fabric that

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01:38:31,120 --> 01:38:32,960
Speaker 2: you're all wearing around like like your kids sock.

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01:38:33,080 --> 01:38:34,840
Speaker 1: Every time I wear that to the grocery store, people

2181
01:38:34,840 --> 01:38:37,479
Speaker 1: are always like, the fuck I don't.

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01:38:37,560 --> 01:38:39,599
Speaker 2: I don't want to be associated with what you do

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01:38:39,840 --> 01:38:42,280
Speaker 2: on the dark web, Luke. After we stop hanging out

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01:38:42,320 --> 01:38:43,000
Speaker 2: after you try.

2185
01:38:42,800 --> 01:38:43,280
Speaker 1: To touch.

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01:38:45,320 --> 01:38:50,599
Speaker 2: Yeah in a vape as well. Although congratulations on that habit. Okay,

2187
01:38:50,600 --> 01:38:52,280
Speaker 2: there you go. Hey, morning combat.

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01:38:52,320 --> 01:38:54,439
Speaker 1: Store, And I confess I smoked a little bit this morning.

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01:38:55,360 --> 01:38:57,719
Speaker 2: Dude, Are you serious? You've worked so hard?

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01:38:57,880 --> 01:38:59,479
Speaker 1: I know, I know, but I just like, I don't

2191
01:38:59,479 --> 01:39:01,160
Speaker 1: have it on me. I'm not smoking at the desk,

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01:39:01,240 --> 01:39:02,720
Speaker 1: but I had a little bit this morning. I was

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01:39:02,720 --> 01:39:03,240
Speaker 1: feeling it.

2194
01:39:04,360 --> 01:39:07,679
Speaker 2: What were you feeling like? Low Rent?

2195
01:39:08,520 --> 01:39:10,920
Speaker 1: I need to put nicotine in my lungs.

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01:39:11,400 --> 01:39:13,639
Speaker 2: All right, all right, well we all have our own habits, Luke,

2197
01:39:13,680 --> 01:39:16,280
Speaker 2: but you can continue your merch habbit there, j R.

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01:39:16,360 --> 01:39:19,800
Speaker 2: J Dunkle Cracker, Luke. He's he's been doing some good stuff.

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01:39:20,000 --> 01:39:21,920
Speaker 2: He's not gonna be in London, but we're gonna have

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01:39:21,920 --> 01:39:23,640
Speaker 2: a good team with us, Luke. We're also gonna have

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01:39:23,800 --> 01:39:28,519
Speaker 2: Jake von Amsterdam recording filming producing right right in the moment,

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01:39:28,880 --> 01:39:31,519
Speaker 2: our doncumentary number eight. This, this is gonna be a

2203
01:39:31,520 --> 01:39:32,920
Speaker 2: good one. I don't know if you're ever gonna beat

2204
01:39:33,000 --> 01:39:35,600
Speaker 2: Doc seven, Luke. It was forty five minutes of just

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01:39:35,760 --> 01:39:36,479
Speaker 2: joy right.

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01:39:37,960 --> 01:39:39,599
Speaker 1: I don't even remember which one Doc SA is DOX

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01:39:39,640 --> 01:39:40,400
Speaker 1: seven the last.

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01:39:40,240 --> 01:39:42,360
Speaker 2: One Yeah, it's like the whole year and then at

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Speaker 2: the end there's the live show with the Margarita.

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01:39:44,320 --> 01:39:46,320
Speaker 1: Yeah where market I made it all about them? Is

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01:39:46,320 --> 01:39:49,439
Speaker 1: that what they did is that the one well they didn't.

2212
01:39:49,439 --> 01:39:51,519
Speaker 2: They didn't make you look like too much of a monster.

2213
01:39:51,520 --> 01:39:53,360
Speaker 2: They were actually very soft in their handling of you.

2214
01:39:53,400 --> 01:39:55,479
Speaker 1: They were soft. What I'm saying is they changed the

2215
01:39:55,520 --> 01:39:58,519
Speaker 1: way which we had initially pitched what the episodes should

2216
01:39:58,520 --> 01:40:00,880
Speaker 1: be about, and they made the much more about like

2217
01:40:01,040 --> 01:40:02,920
Speaker 1: Malka's involvement. I thought that was kind of funny.

2218
01:40:02,920 --> 01:40:05,040
Speaker 2: But oh, like a like a video they can run

2219
01:40:05,080 --> 01:40:06,320
Speaker 2: at the end of the year of like, look at

2220
01:40:06,320 --> 01:40:09,160
Speaker 2: all the great things we've done through these gentlemen. Yeah,

2221
01:40:09,160 --> 01:40:11,840
Speaker 2: well you know that happens in this game. Anything else

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01:40:11,880 --> 01:40:12,920
Speaker 2: you want to promote, Luke.

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01:40:13,000 --> 01:40:14,720
Speaker 1: You're gonna know. I think that's it. We're not doing

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01:40:14,760 --> 01:40:17,800
Speaker 1: anything for the for the boxing match this weekend. We'll

2225
01:40:17,840 --> 01:40:20,040
Speaker 1: be back on Monday. Just check out the Fatal or

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01:40:20,080 --> 01:40:22,280
Speaker 1: Resume review as BBC indicated, check out a stage north

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01:40:22,320 --> 01:40:25,120
Speaker 1: Cut interview, and then great stuff next week.

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01:40:25,960 --> 01:40:29,640
Speaker 2: Yeah. That's what we do here, and I'm excited about it.

2229
01:40:29,760 --> 01:40:32,840
Speaker 2: I'm really excited about our future. The future of our listeners. Luke,

2230
01:40:32,920 --> 01:40:35,400
Speaker 2: it's going to be a joyful party come February eighth. Okay,

2231
01:40:35,560 --> 01:40:36,240
Speaker 2: it's what we do.

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01:40:36,360 --> 01:40:36,559
Speaker 1: Luke.

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01:40:36,600 --> 01:40:38,439
Speaker 2: Okay, maybe this is the start of the world tour.

2234
01:40:38,680 --> 01:40:41,160
Speaker 2: Maybe one day we go back to your to where

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01:40:41,200 --> 01:40:45,080
Speaker 2: your journey started, New Delhi, Luke. Okay, No, nobc, I

2236
01:40:45,120 --> 01:40:48,000
Speaker 2: was born on American territory. No, Luke, you were born

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01:40:48,120 --> 01:40:51,160
Speaker 2: in India and you need to embrace that. If we

2238
01:40:51,240 --> 01:40:55,120
Speaker 2: ever can do MK and the Mumbai that would be fantastic, Luke.

2239
01:40:55,240 --> 01:40:59,280
Speaker 1: Right, but I'm not from Mumbai. I wasn't born in Mumbai.

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Speaker 2: Yeah it doesn't rhyme. Yeah, it doesn't rhyme. It's not

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01:41:02,479 --> 01:41:05,719
Speaker 2: the same thing. Thanks to Mikey Morms pressing the buttons

2242
01:41:05,760 --> 01:41:10,639
Speaker 2: behind the scenes and our great extended teams. What a time, right,

2243
01:41:10,920 --> 01:41:15,240
Speaker 2: thank you for everything. Enjoy the fad, fade or resume thing.

2244
01:41:15,920 --> 01:41:18,080
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm stumbling out the finish headline here, Luke,

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01:41:18,120 --> 01:41:19,600
Speaker 2: you got anything else? And that's it?

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01:41:19,280 --> 01:41:20,000
Speaker 1: That's it.

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01:41:20,040 --> 01:41:22,760
Speaker 2: Bro Oh yeah, we're out, We're out here.