1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. Every so often you 2 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: find somebody in Washington that seems like a really genuine, happy, 3 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: normal human being, and that seems to be the person 4 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: that I've found. So I have Senator Eric Schmidt with me. 5 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: Thank you so much, senator for joining me. 6 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:18,920 Speaker 2: Thanks Youuter. 7 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 3: Hey, I've been an admirer of yours from Afar And 8 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 3: by the way, the best compliment I ever get in 9 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 3: Washington is he seems so normal. 10 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 2: So I'll take it. I will take the normal tech. 11 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 1: I was actually like going through all of your stuff 12 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: and I was like, okay, so he was this badass 13 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: attorney general and now he's a US senator and like, 14 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:39,599 Speaker 1: what could he. 15 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 4: Really be like? 16 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: And here you are doing videos with your daughter and 17 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: talking about family, and I was like, I really like 18 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 1: this guy. 19 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 2: Oh that's nice to say, thank you, thanks, But. 20 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: I really like you for a few different reasons. And 21 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 1: one is because you did take on the Biden administration, 22 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: and here in Michigan, you know that just wasn't the case. 23 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: We didn't have anybody fighting back for us, and that's 24 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: what your book is all about. You have a new 25 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:06,639 Speaker 1: book out, and to me, it's very important that people 26 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: understand that they have this kind of guideline as to 27 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 1: how to to go after the left and court, because 28 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 1: they go after us all the time. It's called the 29 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 1: last line of defense, how to beat the left in court. 30 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: And I think that's critical at this juncture, because we 31 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 1: are at this point of wokeness where you can't have 32 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 1: a normal conversation. 33 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 4: You almost have to go to court. 34 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. 35 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 3: Well, that's why I wrote the book. I feel like 36 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 3: it's like a field manual for what it was like 37 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 3: to be on the front lines against this left wing 38 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 3: lawfare machine. And I think for too long conservatives have 39 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 3: seeded way too much territory in the courts because a 40 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 3: lot of the fights that we care about end up 41 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 3: there eventually anyway. And so before the job I have now, 42 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 3: which is in the Senate, I was the Attorney general 43 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 3: in Missouri and at a really crazy time, Tutor, as 44 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 3: your audience remembers, I think it is important torm. I mean, 45 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 3: this was a time of lockdowns, compulsory COVID shots, open borders, 46 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 3: DEI struggle sessions, CRT in our schools, and a censorship 47 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 3: regime that the Biden administration created that boggles the mind. 48 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 3: I mean it really is amazing. So this was a 49 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 3: crazy time, and so with the job that I had, 50 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 3: we just decided we were going to fight back. So 51 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 3: we took the student loan debt forgiveness case of the 52 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 3: Supreme Court. 53 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: We won. 54 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 3: We took the vaccine mandate case of the Supreme Court, 55 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 3: we won. We filed the Missouri versus Biden lawsuit that uncovered, 56 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 3: you know, before Elon Musket bought Twitter, before these Congression investigations, 57 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:37,119 Speaker 3: for the first time uncovered this vast censorship enterprise where 58 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 3: all these agencies, along with big tech giants were aimed 59 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:42,920 Speaker 3: at the American people because you know, you questioned the vaccine, 60 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 3: or you questioned masks, or you had a question about 61 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 3: the Hunter Biden laptop story. They were literally flagging this 62 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 3: stuff and going after individuals. And so I think the 63 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 3: lesson of the book is there is a playbook for 64 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 3: us now moving forward. And the book just hit the 65 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 3: New York Times bestseller list. As for a conservative book, 66 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 3: it's kind of a kind of a thing. 67 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 4: That's amazing. 68 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:06,920 Speaker 3: Congratulations, thanks, But I think I think your audience audience 69 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 3: will enjoy because it's it's not written for lawyers. I 70 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 3: hope lawyers read it, but it's really about, as everybody 71 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 3: was watching this, what was it like to take Anthony 72 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 3: Fauci's deposition, what was it like to take Elvis Chan's deposition? 73 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 3: All these like figures in this crazy story. We wanted 74 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 3: to share that with people. So Last Line Offense, How 75 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 3: to be the Left and Court. You can get it 76 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 3: anywhere right now and on Amazon too. 77 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: It's something that we've talked about so many times on 78 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: this podcast, whether it's with a woke school or somewhat 79 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 1: somebody that is shutting down your speech, and that's something 80 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: that I think we cannot forget. You make such a 81 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: great point when Elon Musk bought Twitter. I think some 82 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: of us were like, Okay, we're finally free. And then 83 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: the Republicans and the conservatives on our side a lot 84 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: of times it's like, once you've gotten past that hurdle, 85 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: you just move on. Because we are we're kind of 86 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: we're very positive. We move in a positive direction. But 87 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: it's important not to let history repeat itself because once 88 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: they get back in, they're constantly trying to shut us down. 89 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 1: And I even hear it even today. I hear them 90 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: saying things like you know, well they can't say this, 91 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 1: they can't say that. We've got to get them to 92 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: stop saying this. And they can't stand President Trump because 93 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 1: he stood up against this, and that's something was interesting. 94 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 1: I heard you say in one of your interviews that 95 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: after twenty twenty, when Joe Biden took office, there were 96 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: a lot of people that kind of just went back 97 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: into their holes and were like, you know, I don't 98 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: really want to say anything. And I saw this in 99 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: Michigan where Republicans were like, Okay, President Trump is not 100 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: in office anymore, and they kind of felt like he's done, 101 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: he's not coming back, and there's nobody that's going to 102 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: fight on behalf of President Trump anymore. And you said 103 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: I was kind of this unknown guy that came out 104 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:54,559 Speaker 1: and kept fighting. And I have watched what you've done 105 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 1: since then, and I'm like, I think this kind of 106 00:04:58,360 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: unknown guy is going to do great. 107 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 2: Well. Thanks. 108 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I you know, I've never written a book before, 109 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 3: but when when you do, there's a lot of reflection. 110 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 3: And in looking back now, I think my role was 111 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 3: to be that last line of defense, to kind of 112 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:15,359 Speaker 3: hold the line until the cavalry arrived, right, which was 113 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 3: President Trump. And of course this huge win last November 114 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 3: when the fever broke, because it was a dark time 115 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 3: and a lot of people were discouraged, and they brought 116 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 3: everything I mean the left had. I mean they were 117 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 3: working every angle. And I think that's what I try 118 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 3: to relate in the book too, is in that position 119 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:33,600 Speaker 3: at that time, I saw this full landscape. I saw 120 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:35,919 Speaker 3: it at the highest levels of government, and then in 121 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 3: local schools in a place like Missouri or a place 122 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 3: like Michigan. Right like that the coast sort of overlook 123 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 3: all the time. But how in the world does a 124 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 3: superintendent in Springfield, Missouri become obsessed with, you know, the 125 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 3: the slide decks of teaching teachers and staff and other 126 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:58,280 Speaker 3: members of the school district to divide the room by race. 127 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:00,479 Speaker 3: It's well, they go to a conference and get you know, 128 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 3: they get indoctrinated, and then they think that's like their 129 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 3: toxic empathy, you know that they just like in there, 130 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:08,599 Speaker 3: and we uncovered. We opened up one of the things 131 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 3: that I think you'll appreciate. We opened up a portal 132 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:14,359 Speaker 3: for parents. During the mass debate and uh, we sued 133 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 3: like fifty plus school districts for their mass mandates, and 134 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 3: we wanted we were the only ones doing that at 135 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 3: the time, because I just felt like this is wrong. 136 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 3: There's no science to support five year olds being forced 137 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 3: to wear masks. 138 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 2: All day long. 139 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:27,840 Speaker 3: Like you were twice as likely to die of a 140 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 3: dog attack if you were a kid than of COVID. 141 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:34,040 Speaker 3: Yet they were just they never wanted to stop, so 142 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 3: somebody had to step up and push back. 143 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 2: We did. 144 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:40,239 Speaker 3: But also, you know, you would just see example after example, 145 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:42,559 Speaker 3: parents would would send us. We opened up a portal 146 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:44,799 Speaker 3: for like, what's the crazy stuff that's going on in schools? 147 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 3: Kids were being forced to participate in privilege walks. 148 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:50,119 Speaker 4: Like yes, you know what I mean, this is something 149 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:50,720 Speaker 4: we forgot. 150 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: And teachers, the unions have these these retreats, the superintendents, 151 00:06:56,480 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: the districts have retreats where teachers go and. 152 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 4: They are told to apologize for their whiteness. 153 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:04,840 Speaker 1: I mean, this is this has gotten to a point 154 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 1: where people are afraid to meet people of another race 155 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 1: because they're like, I don't know how they're going to 156 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 1: feel about me. This has created such a racism problem, 157 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 1: and not even I think, just a fear of connecting 158 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 1: with other people because like, I don't know how they're 159 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: going to take me it's better to just not connect 160 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: at all. 161 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:25,679 Speaker 4: It's a terrible situation we're in well, and. 162 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 3: It's this is what cultural Marxism is, which is every 163 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 3: room is divided by oppressor and oppressed. 164 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 2: That's really the goal. 165 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 3: And then yes, what you got to hire a consultant 166 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 3: to teach you how to do that better. There's a 167 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 3: whole industry attached to it, and it's all based on division, 168 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 3: and it's all by the way, it's totally racist. 169 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 2: All of this stuff is racist. 170 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:47,239 Speaker 3: And it's interesting now in the Senate, I had Hemi Dylan, 171 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 3: who's head and leading the Civil Rights Division. If you're 172 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 3: doing the stuff, I'd be I'd be very concerned. If 173 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 3: you're a private company, you know, Coca Cola, we talk 174 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 3: about it in the book too, was having these sessions 175 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 3: up of literally how to be less white, I. 176 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 2: Mean in corporate America. 177 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 3: So this stuff is crazy and so but I do 178 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 3: think that the mainstream media never wanted to talk about it. 179 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 3: What you're doing with this kind of diffused ecosystem now 180 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 3: of information being diffused is really important because people people 181 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 3: get it now. I think they had a moment in 182 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 3: time that it was they pushed as hard as they could, 183 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 3: and I think you're seeing a backlash. And I agree 184 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 3: with you on President Trump, I was. I was, I 185 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 3: think the first Senate endorseder, maybe the second when he 186 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 3: when he was running again. And one of the reasons 187 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 3: why is we talk about what you were talking about 188 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 3: reference about me at the beginning. But he's just an 189 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:49,719 Speaker 3: authentic guy, Like there's no people the left and their 190 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,679 Speaker 3: media allies, they've never really understood it, they can't stand it. 191 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 3: But he just connects. I think to my parents. I 192 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 3: grew up in a working class neighborhood. My dad works 193 00:08:57,679 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 3: seven days a week in the midnight shift. And I 194 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 3: remember when he came down the escalator the first time. 195 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 3: My dad was talking about do you see what he 196 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 3: said to see? And then did you see what you know? 197 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 2: He was? 198 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 3: He was connecting with how real people felt about stuff 199 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 3: that most politicians were totally totally talking over or they 200 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:14,719 Speaker 3: had kind of disdained for. 201 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:18,679 Speaker 1: You know, right, he's not careful and that because he 202 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 1: doesn't think about being careful. He and and careful is 203 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: such an interesting word to use, because politicians are careful, 204 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 1: which is a kind way of saying they're not real. 205 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:32,839 Speaker 1: They're not you don't know who they are, Yes, exactly, 206 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: And Donald Trump was like, you know what, I'm not 207 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: going to do that. And that's the beauty of But 208 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 1: it's so hard for a lot of people because one 209 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: of the benefits that he has is that he came out, 210 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 1: he was a known person, he came out with a 211 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 1: lot of support. 212 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 4: He was out there for years as a public figure. 213 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: And I think that it's kind of an interesting dynamic 214 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 1: because you see some people. I've even seen it on 215 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:59,319 Speaker 1: the local level where some people have come out boisterous 216 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 1: and they tried to to be Trump Trump, Is Trump 217 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 1: be you. It's hard to get people now to be themselves. 218 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 3: Yes, no, that's right. They'll never be another one like him. 219 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 3: I was in the Rose Garden there really won't be. 220 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 3: I was in the Rose Garden for for Liberation Day 221 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 3: and he's talking about, you know, the renegotiating these trade deals, 222 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 3: and he was, you know, talking about how he was 223 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 3: right thirty years ago. 224 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:21,719 Speaker 2: And all this, but he was right. 225 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 3: I turned to Jim Banks, who's sitting there, I go, 226 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 3: We're never going to see anything like this ever again. 227 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 3: Like this is so unique and it's such a special 228 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:32,599 Speaker 3: moment in time. But like and the reason why I 229 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 3: wrote the book Last Line of Defense, How would beat 230 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 3: the Left? And court is man. There was a period 231 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 3: of time where that didn't seem like necessarily where we 232 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:43,680 Speaker 3: would end up right, and it was because you know, 233 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 3: we were able to fight back. But also President Trump 234 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 3: stared down in a way that I don't know how 235 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 3: many people literally on the planet could do it. It's 236 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 3: right up and they're so United States before we were 237 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 3: literally somebody who came back in a non consecutive term 238 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 3: against all the law fair all the trying to bankrupt 239 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 3: his family. He stared at down and he's on the 240 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 3: other side of it. But you talk about like that 241 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 3: Liberation Day, we've been being ripped off for Michigan, Missouri, 242 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 3: all these jobs that win other places thirty years ago, 243 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 3: ninety thousand factories because we had these trade deals that 244 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 3: were meant to prop up Europe they could rebuild themselves 245 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 3: after World War two, defeat Soviet communism. Saying with US 246 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:23,839 Speaker 3: over subsidizing NATO. He's finally the first president said, you 247 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 3: know what, that may have worked then, but we're getting 248 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 3: ripped off. We want to renegotiate these deals. 249 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 2: Now. 250 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 4: We were one of those factories here. 251 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 3: I'm going to fight for the American people. So people 252 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 3: know intuitively understand he has their back. What they couldn't 253 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 3: understand from the previous administration is and people would ask 254 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 3: me this, how does an American president, okay, open up 255 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 3: our border like that where you don't know who's coming in. 256 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 3: There's twenty million people here, What is the allegiance to 257 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 3: our country? 258 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 2: Where is that? 259 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 3: And so no one ever questions that with Trump, And 260 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 3: I think that's one of the reasons why he's just 261 00:11:57,760 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 3: he's such a powerful figure. 262 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 4: Let's take it quick commercial break. We'll continue next on 263 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 4: the Tutor Dixon Podcast. 264 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: We had a factory in Michigan, and after the recession 265 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 1: in two thousand and eight, we just had. 266 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 4: All our costs. 267 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: So many of our customers were like, you know what, 268 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 1: it's going to just be easier to go to Mexico 269 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 1: or go to China. 270 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:22,959 Speaker 4: So many, I mean, we watched that in that season. 271 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 1: We watched the steel foundries across the country one after 272 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: another go out of business, and one of the greatest 273 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 1: ones in California, and we were actually shocked that it 274 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:34,959 Speaker 1: had stayed open as long as it did. In California, 275 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 1: they'd had protest for years. It's just this ignorance of 276 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 1: the left to understand why it's important to have that 277 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: institutional knowledge to be able to manufacture on your own, 278 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:49,559 Speaker 1: and that to me is a crisis in and of itself. 279 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 1: We have so few people left that can go back 280 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: start these factories up and understand how to work in 281 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 1: these factories. And that's why what President Trump is doing 282 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 1: is critical now because that could one generation from now 283 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: that's lost if we don't do it now. 284 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 3: That's right, and for our national security, we can't. We 285 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 3: cannot be reliant on China and other countries for the 286 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:17,199 Speaker 3: stuff we need to build F fifteens like right, that's insane, 287 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 3: and we are in many ways or have been. It 288 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 3: won't happen overnight, But that's the kind of that that's 289 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 3: the sort of thing I think when people look back 290 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 3: on this era, you know, that's why I think President 291 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 3: Trump's going to go down as one of our great 292 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 3: presidents of all time because of just the vision and 293 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:38,319 Speaker 3: the connection. But but like I said, it didn't you know, 294 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 3: it was it was wild time in those four years 295 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 3: that Joe Biden was in office, and with COVID in particular, 296 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 3: you just saw people who never should have had the 297 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 3: authority that they had abused it in ways I couldn't 298 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 3: have imagined in this country. I just I I if 299 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 3: you would have asked me five years ago, if I 300 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 3: thought that was possible in the United States, I would 301 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 3: have said no. It's interesting. I I met RFK. Junior 302 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 3: for the first time in Utah when I was Attorney General, 303 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:06,839 Speaker 3: and he was familiar with the work that I was doing. 304 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 3: And he at the time, remember he was a Democrat 305 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 3: running for president going to run for president. But he 306 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 3: thanked me for the work that we were doing. And 307 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:15,679 Speaker 3: he was obviously out front on some of the COVID 308 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 3: restrictions too, and how ridiculous they were. But he reminded 309 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 3: me of this thing called the Milgrim experiment. So in 310 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 3: the fifties there yaled at this experiment where they had 311 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 3: a guy in a white coat, an actor white coat 312 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 3: and a clipboard looked like a doctor, and then on 313 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 3: the other side they had a paid actor on the 314 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 3: other side of the wall who would scream when you 315 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 3: turned up this pain dial, and they would bring people 316 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 3: in and they would tell him to turn it up 317 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 3: even as they heard screams, and the screams got louder 318 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 3: and louder, and people pleading for help, and then they 319 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 3: would stop, sometimes like the person may have died. And 320 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 3: what the experiment showed was that when an authority figure 321 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 3: like that tells you to do something, a lot of 322 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 3: people will do it. And that haunted me during COVID 323 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 3: because I just kept seeing things getting pushed further in. 324 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 3: You can't travel, you can't see a loved one die, 325 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 3: you can't be in the hospital as they're dying. You 326 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 3: couldn't you know all this. You couldn't go to a funeral, 327 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 3: you couldn't go to church. So the Left, if they 328 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 3: ever get this kind of power, we know what they'll 329 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 3: do with it. In this book, Last Line Defense is 330 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 3: a playbook of what we can do to fight back 331 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 3: and win, but also recognize it and make sure it 332 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 3: never happens ever again. 333 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 1: So let me ask you about Adam Schiff and Letitia 334 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 1: James and this other woman from Michigan I can't remember 335 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 1: what her name is, all these people who are now 336 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 1: in this mortgage fraud situation where I keep hearing the 337 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: Left go. 338 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 4: This is no big deal, this is ridiculous. 339 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 1: How could you possibly And it's frustrating to me because 340 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 1: I think, my gosh, if I did that, they would 341 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 1: absolutely annihilate me over this. And they're acting like mortgage 342 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 1: fraud is no big deal, but it's a very obvious 343 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: mortgage fraud. 344 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't want the rules to ever apply to them. 345 00:15:57,880 --> 00:15:59,239 Speaker 2: And I think. 346 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 3: They know that they went for broke with Trump, like 347 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 3: they convinced them. And you can tie it all back 348 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 3: to the Russia Gates stuff. They made up stuff to 349 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 3: turn him into a Russian asset, to spy on him, 350 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 3: to prevent him from getting in the first place, then 351 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 3: to try to sideline an administration and thwart the wild 352 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 3: of people. I think there's indictments coming for that, I 353 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 3: really do. I think there's a conspiracy charge that gets 354 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 3: you outside of the statute of limitations for people like 355 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 3: Brennan and Comy and Clapper. I think, and I hope 356 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 3: there should be indictments. What they did to this country 357 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 3: because they didn't like Trump and they wanted to get 358 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 3: Trump is crazy. Also one of the crazy historical quirks 359 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 3: here tutor the FBI General Council at the time in 360 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 3: twenty sixteen during the Russia Gate, was the guy by 361 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 3: the name of James Baker Well guess who was the 362 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:55,479 Speaker 3: General council of Twitter during the Hunter Biden laptop censorship 363 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 3: stuff in October and November of twenty twenty. James Baker. 364 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 3: So what the book gets in crazy? The book gets 365 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:07,959 Speaker 3: into this censorship enterprise. It wasn't just like one person. 366 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 3: So when we filed the lawsuit Missouri versus Biden, we 367 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 3: saw Jensaki, you know, saying, oh, we're flagging stuff or 368 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 3: Facebook and they were talking about a disinformation government's board 369 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 3: and what the hell is That sounds like a ministry 370 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 3: of truth. So we said, you know, there's enough here 371 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 3: to file a lawsuits. We filed a lawsuit. But instead 372 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 3: of getting the injunction first, which is typically what happens, 373 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 3: and an injunction for your audience is you get the 374 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 3: government to stop doing something you don't want, or another 375 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 3: party to stop doing something immediately through a temporary restraining 376 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 3: order or something like that, we said, you know what 377 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:38,399 Speaker 3: we were being charged with saying this was a conspiracy 378 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 3: theory or we were making stuff up, or which is 379 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 3: for attention seeking, So we want discovery first. The judge 380 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 3: granted us discovery and what we got was shocking, like 381 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 3: the emails, the thousands of pages of communication between high 382 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 3: rank and government officials saying this comes from the top, 383 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 3: the very top of the White House. Take this down. 384 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 3: And they would take it down. They would threaten investigations. 385 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 3: But it wasn't like the CDC was involved. They were saying, 386 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:04,919 Speaker 3: if these words are phrases or uttered, take it down. 387 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 4: Because it is so shocking. 388 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 3: It is an agency called SISA, which is this cybersecurity agency. 389 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 3: They were involved, Like millions of voices were being silenced 390 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 3: or throttled or taken down or deplatformed in the town 391 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 3: in the modern day town square, which is virtual. So 392 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 3: this is our government that was doing it, and we 393 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 3: exposed it, and I just would It has shaped my 394 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 3: view of a lot of things having seen what I've seen, 395 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:34,159 Speaker 3: and in the book, I try to share that with 396 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:37,439 Speaker 3: people because again, like you said earlier, you know, Republicans 397 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:41,159 Speaker 3: are genuinely good, decent people who want to, you know, 398 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 3: provide for their families, raise their families. They don't view 399 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 3: government as such a central part of their life like 400 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 3: the left does. But I think that we have to 401 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 3: be aware of what was going down and the courage 402 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 3: I think that it takes to stand up. 403 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 2: And fight back. 404 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 1: I think that's why midterms are so challenging because the 405 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: average conservative, the average a Republican, it's like, you know what, 406 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 1: government's not that big of a deal. I'll vote for president. 407 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 1: I'm not going to come out every time because they 408 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 1: don't see government as a form of control. 409 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 4: But that's the left. The left is absolutely they are 410 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 4: boots on the ground. We got to get out there. 411 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 1: Mandami or all these people who are out there saying, 412 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 1: you know what, government's going to be everything, and they 413 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 1: are training. 414 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 4: These kids to believe this. 415 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:28,160 Speaker 1: I mean, my daughter brought her home her history book 416 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 1: home the first day of school and she said, the 417 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 1: teacher said, and they go to a Christian school. She said, 418 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 1: the teacher said that he ordered this not knowing that 419 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 1: it was really anti Trump and that he knows parents 420 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: are going to be mad. But she said, apparently it's 421 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 1: anti Trump through the whole thing. I open it, just 422 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:48,400 Speaker 1: open it. The first page is Charlottesville, the whole thing, 423 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 1: and it's. 424 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 4: All a lie. 425 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 1: And I'm like, how is this a history book? I mean, 426 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 1: this is really this is not ending. There's never a time, 427 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 1: there's never a year off for Republicans. There's never a 428 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 1: time to to. 429 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 4: Get to slouch and not go out and vote. 430 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 1: You have to be in every aspect of this because 431 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 1: the lies are so they know, they have the kids, 432 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 1: they have the teachers, they can get to you. 433 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:12,160 Speaker 4: They can stop. 434 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: The progress of conservatism, and they can also stop what 435 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:19,159 Speaker 1: this country is and change it. And that's terrifying to me. 436 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 1: I want to ask you before you go. I want 437 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:26,680 Speaker 1: to ask you about Saint Louis because we have obviously 438 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 1: a very similar situation in Detroit. I think Saint Louis 439 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:32,679 Speaker 1: I think is fourth this year, but in the past 440 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: we have competed for the number one spot as most 441 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:36,880 Speaker 1: violent city in America. 442 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 3: This year, dete fighting for the world in the World 443 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 3: Series than for that title, I think, right, we'd rather 444 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,159 Speaker 3: have the Tigers play the Cardinals than that up for grabs. 445 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 4: Yes, seriously, I mean it's it's so sad. 446 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 1: And Memphis has gotten in there, and Baltimore's gotten in there, 447 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: and there is and these are all controlled by Democrats. 448 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 1: These cities are all controlled by Democrats. And you see 449 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 1: what's happening in Washington, d C. 450 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 4: Right now. 451 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,880 Speaker 1: What has it been like the change on the ground 452 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 1: there in safety and what has it been like to 453 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 1: see your colleagues freak out about the fact that Trump 454 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:13,400 Speaker 1: is keeping people safe. 455 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:17,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think what this is. We talked about trade 456 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:20,119 Speaker 3: and all the other stuff earlier. What President Trump is 457 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:23,199 Speaker 3: doing is he's challenging all these assumptions that people have 458 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 3: had about problems are intractable, and what he's saying is, 459 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 3: we're not going to give up on violent crime in 460 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 3: some of the areas that have been affected by it 461 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:35,159 Speaker 3: the most Washington, d C. 462 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:36,719 Speaker 2: Right, look at what's happening. 463 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,199 Speaker 3: I mean, carjackings are down eighty five percent, robberies are 464 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 3: down fifty percent. I mean, it's a presence and there's 465 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:48,160 Speaker 3: just no substitute. And as a former prosecutor my lived experience, 466 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 3: there's just no substitute for a law enforcement presence and 467 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 3: prosecutions that follow. You can do all the other stuff 468 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:57,399 Speaker 3: you want to do, and you can talk about it, 469 00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 3: you can use flowery language, and you can talk about 470 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:01,920 Speaker 3: social work all this, and God knows the world needs 471 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 3: social workers. But if you want to solve violent crime, 472 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 3: you have to get the bad guys off the street 473 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 3: and you put them in jail. Okay, because there's a 474 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 3: subset of a subset of the worst who do a 475 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 3: lot of the really bad stuff, and once they're taken 476 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 3: out of the equation that helps, then other people see 477 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 3: they've been taken out of the equation that helps. So 478 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,639 Speaker 3: there's a deterrent effect. There's just the bad people are 479 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:26,680 Speaker 3: off the streets. And quite frankly, the black communities in 480 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 3: Saint Louis and Detroit had been victimized the most. They're 481 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,880 Speaker 3: the ones tired of cleaning up the glass on Sunday mornings, 482 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:34,680 Speaker 3: and they want help, Like if you talk to real people, 483 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 3: they want help. 484 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:36,399 Speaker 2: I've been in the neighborhoods. 485 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:39,440 Speaker 3: When I was ag we partnered with federal prosecutors because 486 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 3: we had a Soros prosecutor for a while she's gone. 487 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 3: We tried to basically help with federal prosecutions for gun crime. 488 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 3: So what's happening now is I think President Trump's changing 489 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 3: the dynamic. The Democrats somehow, some way toutor have figured 490 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 3: out a way to be on the wrong side of 491 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:58,159 Speaker 3: another eighty twenty issue because they hate Trump. It's the 492 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:01,360 Speaker 3: same reason why Trump's going after illegal immigration. And they 493 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 3: find themselves down in El Salvador having Margarita's with an 494 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 3: MS thirteen gang member who beats his wife like. 495 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 2: How do you how do you screw that up? But 496 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:09,160 Speaker 2: they they can't help them. 497 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,640 Speaker 4: They don't think they screwed it up. They're still on 498 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 4: that on his side. 499 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 2: Why, I don't think they've hit rock bottom. 500 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 3: But one of the things that I've done and hopefully 501 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 3: becomes a model, we've worked with Cash Mattel, Saint Louis 502 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 3: is getting now the largest infusion of permanent FBI agents 503 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 3: to take on violent crime in the country. I'm not 504 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 3: going to give up on Saint Louis the crime issue. 505 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 3: It's a great it's a it's a like Detroit. These 506 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 3: are great American cities that deserve so much better. And 507 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:35,400 Speaker 3: we just can't give up on him. And I think 508 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 3: President Trump has this this this this desire to do it, 509 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 3: and he doesn't care if that you know, maybe eighty 510 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,159 Speaker 3: twenty didn't vote for him, like he wants to fix it, 511 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 3: but you gotta want him to come in. I think 512 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,399 Speaker 3: he's making that clear. Jabi Pritzker, I mean, shame on 513 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 3: a guy like that. These mayors that are just it's 514 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 3: not in the interest of their citizens, but they just 515 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 3: have Trump arrangement syndrome so bad tutor that they can't 516 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 3: they can't help themselves. 517 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 4: Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on 518 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 4: the Tutor Dixon Podcast. 519 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:13,879 Speaker 1: In Detroit, the mayor of Detroit we were having this 520 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 1: situation where houses were like these meth houses and they 521 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 1: would catch on fire or people would set them on 522 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 1: fire to try to get rid of them. So he 523 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 1: was like, you know what, we're going to go through 524 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 1: and we're going to tear down all the houses that 525 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:28,159 Speaker 1: are in these communities. 526 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 4: And he has. 527 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,879 Speaker 1: He prides himself on the fact that he has ripped 528 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 1: out all these homes in the city of Detroit. And 529 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,159 Speaker 1: you know, they then they try to partner with this 530 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:42,119 Speaker 1: group that's going to build a low income housing in 531 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 1: one of the towers there, and I just think of 532 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 1: you know the I mean, I grew up in the 533 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 1: suburbs of Chicago, so I'm like, okay, so we'll have 534 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 1: Cabrini Green in downtown Detroit. I just and now this guy, who, 535 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,679 Speaker 1: let me tell you, he has allowed they have reduced 536 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 1: the number of cops. He has allowed the crime to 537 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 1: continue on the streets. The ripping down people's homes did 538 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,399 Speaker 1: not stop crime. I mean, that's the thing that blows 539 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:08,399 Speaker 1: my mind. Just because the house is not there, The 540 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 1: crime is not gone. Jails are full, our prisons are 541 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,919 Speaker 1: empty because nobody wants to give them the real sentence 542 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:15,439 Speaker 1: they should have. 543 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 4: So like you're to your point. 544 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: Once you get the few bad actors off the street, 545 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 1: then it frees up the other people to live a 546 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,919 Speaker 1: normal life and not be controlled by these I mean, essentially, 547 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:26,920 Speaker 1: it's like a bully in a school. You know, when 548 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,679 Speaker 1: you have a gang member who leads everybody going. If 549 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 1: they're still there, they're going to continue to control the situation. 550 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 1: Instead of getting them off the streets, you destroyed the 551 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 1: history that was there. Now this guy wants to be governor. 552 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 1: What is your response to something like that? But that 553 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 1: that's the thinking, is to go and wipe out the community, 554 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 1: I think. 555 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 3: And I start the book with the line in November 556 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:55,679 Speaker 3: of twenty twenty four, the fever broke, and I believe 557 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 3: that on so many different levels, I think that fever 558 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:00,919 Speaker 3: dream we were living, which also included it wasn't just 559 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 3: Biden's crazy administration that was coming after our freedoms or COVID. 560 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 3: It was this social unrest that the left, I mean, 561 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 3: you know, they were delivering bricks on pallets as soon 562 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,639 Speaker 3: as the Sun went down like this network that was 563 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 3: one basically, I mean their desire is, if you study Marxism, 564 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 3: is to kind of untether people from the things that 565 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 3: hold them together, the nuclear family, church, you know, sort 566 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:30,639 Speaker 3: of like community organizations that people you know, the Knights 567 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 3: of Columbus, stuff like that, and you replace it, and the. 568 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,640 Speaker 2: Way you get there is chaos where people just they feel. 569 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 3: Very unsettled and they're looking for something, and then government, 570 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 3: which is effectively the religion, steps into the place of 571 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:44,400 Speaker 3: all this stuff. So that's what they were doing. That's 572 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 3: what they were doing in the Summer of Love in 573 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 3: twenty twenty, and I think their high point was for them, 574 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 3: they had the attention and they got companies to do 575 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:57,639 Speaker 3: a bunch of crazy stuff. But you saw a lot 576 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:02,640 Speaker 3: of law enforcement leave, take early retirement, or never get 577 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 3: into the profession in the first place. 578 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 2: So we're still digging out of that. 579 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 3: But the hope is I think that now that like 580 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 3: normal people are speaking out and saying, you know what 581 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 3: we want. We want a bigger police presence. Yeah, like 582 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 3: we actually want to take on violent crime, and our 583 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 3: communities deserve to feel safe. I think you're seeing a 584 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 3: people being re energized by that. But for the big 585 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 3: city mayors that still talk about defunding the police, but 586 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:32,200 Speaker 3: or maybe lose use language that's less direct than that, reimagining, 587 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 3: whatever the nonsense the term might be, they're just gonna 588 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,920 Speaker 3: they're on the wrong side of history here. It's not complicated, 589 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:43,199 Speaker 3: like you need more police officers and their presence on 590 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 3: the street really matters, and you go and arrest bad 591 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 3: guys and then you prosecute them and put them away 592 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:54,400 Speaker 3: for a long time. Like it's actually not it's not 593 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,120 Speaker 3: twenty twenty anymore. Like we don't need to apologize for that. 594 00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 3: That's just the truth. It's the truth. So we just 595 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,120 Speaker 3: got to go do it. But I think there's more 596 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 3: men and women of courage that want to do that 597 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 3: and are willing to speak out about it. But you know, 598 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 3: a few years ago, you know, there were a lot 599 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 3: fewer people who are willing to say those kind of things. 600 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 2: That's fru sure. 601 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 1: You know what the guy who stood and looked in 602 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 1: the face of all of these this law fair and 603 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,440 Speaker 1: everything that you were talking about earlier, President Trump being 604 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,440 Speaker 1: out there every day saying we're not going to stand 605 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 1: for this. That helps people stand up and I assume 606 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:28,119 Speaker 1: that helps people in these states who are attorneys general 607 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 1: and prosecutors to say. 608 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 4: You know what, we're just not going to do this anymore. 609 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 4: But I do think they should read your book. 610 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,159 Speaker 1: So tell us again, give us all the details on 611 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 1: the book where you can get it all that. 612 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the last line of defense, how to Beat 613 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 3: the Left in Court. You can get it on Amazon 614 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 3: right now or anywhere that you buy your books. Yeah, 615 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 3: it's New York Times bestseller. We're excited about that. And 616 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 3: I think it's reaching a broad audience right now, which 617 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 3: is really important. It's a playbook of how we beat 618 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 3: the left in court, and it recounts all this crazy 619 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 3: time where we stood up and we fought back, and 620 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 3: I hope that vies a roadmap for the future. 621 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 4: Absolutely, so go out and get it. 622 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 1: Because there's this guy who is this just normal, common 623 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 1: sense guy that happens to be a senator and we're 624 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 1: so glad that you are. Senator Eric Schmid, thank you 625 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 1: so much for being on the podcast. 626 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 2: Thanks too, Let's do it again. 627 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 1: Absolutely, and thank you all for listening to the podcast. 628 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 1: Make sure you go over to the iHeartRadio app, Apple 629 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 1: Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts, and join us 630 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 1: next time on the Tutor Dixon Podcast. 631 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:27,719 Speaker 4: Have a blessed day,