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Speaker 2: Joshua P. Warren is an investigator who pioneers the amazing
Speaker 2: relationship between the mind, energy, matter, and strange phenomena like ghosts, UFOs, esp, monsters,
Speaker 2: and more. Over thirty years, Joshua has published over twenty books,
Speaker 2: appeared on dozens of TV channels, and conducted lab experiments
Speaker 2: that earned him the cover of a science journal. He
Speaker 2: invents metaphysical tools that have improved thousands of lives around
Speaker 2: the world, and to learn more about them, please visit
Speaker 2: his main website, Joshuapwarren dot com and his brand new
Speaker 2: site to produce personalized sigils with your name using the
Speaker 2: parasimatics system that he created, the sigil lab dot com.
Speaker 2: The sigil lab dot com. He lives in Las Vegas
Speaker 2: and he hosts the weekly show Strange Things on the
Speaker 2: Coast to Coast AM Paranormal podcast network. Joshua, Welcome back
Speaker 2: to Coast to Coast. How are you, Damn?
Speaker 3: I'm doing great. It's so nice to be with you. Richard.
Speaker 2: Great to have you and you were kind enough to
Speaker 2: send me a and the mighty Aphrodite My lovely Greek bride,
Speaker 2: our own personal unique sigils, and I've got mine up
Speaker 2: on the I've got them both up on my screen
Speaker 2: right now, and I also have them on my phone
Speaker 2: so that I can if I go down to the
Speaker 2: convenience store and buy a lottery ticket. I look at them,
Speaker 2: and mine looks like a kind of a crazy weather vein.
Speaker 2: And the mighty aphrodities is this beautiful kind of a
Speaker 2: star burst. Inside there's this crescent moon, and above the
Speaker 2: crescent moon is a pinwheel. Very elaborate. They really are
Speaker 2: truly works of art. But first of all, let's I
Speaker 2: like to start with definitions. I mentioned a sigil. It's
Speaker 2: kind of a magical symbol, but there's more to it
Speaker 2: than that, right.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean that's the essence, of course, but gosh,
Speaker 3: I mean the history of sigils, it goes back to
Speaker 3: the beginning of really civilization. You know. These magical symbols
Speaker 3: are things that have always been sort of an antenna
Speaker 3: for spiritual power, for spiritual energy, whether we're talking about
Speaker 3: the ancient Egyptian anc or some of the ancient Coptic
Speaker 3: Christian crosses, or the Seal of Solomon which was later
Speaker 3: adapted into the Star of David. I mean, thousands of
Speaker 3: years ago people had figured out that certain types of
Speaker 3: vibrations and energies could be sort of condensed down into
Speaker 3: almost something like a logo. And even if you don't
Speaker 3: necessarily know what it is supposed to symbolize, some of
Speaker 3: these designs, they just seem to reqube on a subconscious level.
Speaker 3: So it transcends language. It's almost like music in that way,
Speaker 3: and it seems to affect you simply by being in
Speaker 3: the presence of the sigil, by simply looking at it,
Speaker 3: by exposing yourself to it. And of course in the
Speaker 3: Middle Ages, constructing sigils became even more of a science,
Speaker 3: and so the word sigil is based on the Latin
Speaker 3: word sigilum, which means simply to seal. And so these
Speaker 3: types of sigils have been used for manifestation purposes from
Speaker 3: the very beginning. However, about at least six years ago,
Speaker 3: I started thinking about a new way of creating sigils,
Speaker 3: something that wasn't just dependent on the human imagination, but
Speaker 3: would also incorporate more of an expression from Mother Nature.
Speaker 3: And so that is how I came up with parasigmatics,
Speaker 3: and that is why when the parasigmatic system creates a sigil,
Speaker 3: it's a surprise for everyone because we're looking at something
Speaker 3: that mother nature produces based upon the system that I
Speaker 3: put in place.
Speaker 2: All right, So there's the other definition we need now,
Speaker 2: cimatics I understand a little bit of and that is
Speaker 2: basically patterns that are created through sound waves. So if
Speaker 2: you were to take some kind of let's say, I
Speaker 2: don't know, a metal sheet, and you put sand on it,
Speaker 2: find granular sand, and then you vibrate maybe with sound
Speaker 2: waves or vibrations of some sort, the sand on the
Speaker 2: metal sheet will organize themselves in a particular pattern that
Speaker 2: corresponds to that wave. Do I have that basically right?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Absolutely, And that is exactly what a German scientist
Speaker 3: named Ernst Schlodney started doing in the late seventeen hundreds.
Speaker 3: He was also a musician, and he that when these
Speaker 3: patterns appear, when you take something like a violin bow
Speaker 3: and you stroke it on the side of the plate
Speaker 3: and you look at these these sand patterns that sort
Speaker 3: of almost appear like snowflakes, and they snap into all
Speaker 3: these different shapes depending on the tone and the note.
Speaker 3: And this became of course a great fascination to many scientists.
Speaker 3: And then finally there was a Swiss scientist in the
Speaker 3: twentieth century named Hans Jenny who really brought it into
Speaker 3: the field of study we have today, and he was
Speaker 3: the one who actually started calling this simatics, which is
Speaker 3: based on the ancient Greek word for waves or waves.
Speaker 3: And so the interesting thing about creating patterns with simatics
Speaker 3: is that you can play music, you can play tones,
Speaker 3: and you can you can see something like sand or
Speaker 3: grains of salt snap into those patterns. But it's also
Speaker 3: a very three dimensional phenomenon, and that's why you can
Speaker 3: also get these three dimensional configurations in water or in
Speaker 3: something that's maybe a semi liquid like corn starch and water,
Speaker 3: and you can create some really interesting forms using that.
Speaker 3: And it starts to become apparent that what we're seeing
Speaker 3: here is a representation, a very literal representation of the
Speaker 3: connection between vibrations and frequency and the formation of physical
Speaker 3: matter and how physical matter stays fixed in place. And
Speaker 3: so six or so years ago, when I was living
Speaker 3: in Puerto Rico studying phenomena in the Bermuda triangle, I
Speaker 3: decided to start taking some sand from the beaches around
Speaker 3: there and some of the water from the triangle and
Speaker 3: passing tones through it to see if I got any
Speaker 3: kind of particularly unusual shapes. And the more I played
Speaker 3: with this, the more I wondered, what if instead of
Speaker 3: just playing a tone and getting a shape that emerges,
Speaker 3: what if I actually instilled a message in that tone
Speaker 3: and then watched to see how that that message changed
Speaker 3: the design. And so I started by taking tones like
Speaker 3: I am attracting more money, or I am attracting a
Speaker 3: better relationship, or I am attracting more willpower, basic things
Speaker 3: like that, and I would speak these phrases into a microphone,
Speaker 3: and then when I would play those phrases into a
Speaker 3: bowl of water with a sort of troodeny setup, I
Speaker 3: would see what kind of pattern would emerge. And I
Speaker 3: was struck by just how complex and how unique these
Speaker 3: patterns were. And so in order to see them better,
Speaker 3: I started shining infrared and ultraviolet lights and lasers on
Speaker 3: them to really make those designs pop. And it was
Speaker 3: always very interesting to see what Mother Nature was going
Speaker 3: to reveal. And then I had cameras amounted around it,
Speaker 3: and I would photograph what was appearing in the water,
Speaker 3: and then It turns out that my wife Lauren is
Speaker 3: a wonderful artist, and so I would give her these
Speaker 3: pictures and say, sit down and try to, you know,
Speaker 3: by hand or using a computer program or whatever is
Speaker 3: easiest for you, try to extract the most distinct.
Speaker 4: Part of this pattern out and let's look at it
Speaker 4: as a symbol. And once she did this with four
Speaker 4: or five of these, we saw that some really interesting
Speaker 4: looking shapes were appearing. And so I was about to
Speaker 4: go on coast to coast am one night with George Nori,
Speaker 4: and I said, you know what, let's do an experiment.
Speaker 4: I'm going to put these four sigils that I had created,
Speaker 4: the first four on my website for free, Joshua Pwarren
Speaker 4: dot com. And when you go there, I told everybody
Speaker 4: in the audience, you can go and find whatever sigel
Speaker 4: appeals to you, and you can either save it to
Speaker 4: your phone or your computer, or you can print it
Speaker 4: out and you can put it on your refrigerator or
Speaker 4: your steering will, or on your bathroom mirror. But just
Speaker 4: print this thing out or have it somewhere you can
Speaker 4: see it on your phone, your tab or.
Speaker 3: Whatever, and just start looking at it throughout the day
Speaker 3: and let me know if anything interesting happens. Well, let
Speaker 3: me tell you, Richard, the stories I started getting from people.
Speaker 4: Telling me about these amazing synchronistic things that happened over
Speaker 4: the next few weeks.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm telling you, hundreds and hundreds of them
Speaker 3: came in. It was so shocking to me that, to
Speaker 3: give you an example, I think in less than a month,
Speaker 3: I got my first picture from someone who had had
Speaker 3: so much success looking at the money sigil that he
Speaker 3: had tattooed it on his arm.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 3: And that's when I knew we were onto something here.
Speaker 3: And so over the years, I continued experimenting with this
Speaker 3: thing I called parathimatics, because para is going beyond, and
Speaker 3: so it's taking simatics but going one step further by
Speaker 3: adding messages and intentions into them, seeing the patterns and emerges,
Speaker 3: and then having people be exposed to it. And I
Speaker 3: went on back to George Norri. I went on George
Speaker 3: Norri's TV show one time, Beyond Belief, and I decided
Speaker 3: it'd be cool to make a personalized George Norri sigil,
Speaker 3: and I gave it to him on that show. He
Speaker 3: absolutely loved it. Afterward, he started telling me that when
Speaker 3: he would carry this around, all of these great things
Speaker 3: would happen to him. Word got around, and for six
Speaker 3: years people have been asking me to create personalized sigils
Speaker 3: using their own name, and I've never had the setup.
Speaker 3: And then finally about well just about a month ago,
Speaker 3: I finally was able to get a part of my
Speaker 3: workshop here in Las Vegas turned into the Sigil Lab
Speaker 3: and so for a limited period of time we are
Speaker 3: taking request to make these personalized parasigmatics sigils using your name.
Speaker 2: And at the uh in the carousel at Coast to
Speaker 2: Coast am dot com, people can go there. It's in
Speaker 2: the number one position in the carousel. They'll see your
Speaker 2: personal sigil that you created in your new Sigil Lab
Speaker 2: right there in Las Vegas. It looks like a Chinese symbol.
Speaker 2: It looks like Chinese writing yeah you know.
Speaker 3: That is one of the weirdest things about this whole
Speaker 3: process is that we since we just don't know what
Speaker 3: is going to appear, we we are very very careful
Speaker 3: about being as as pure and as as committed as
Speaker 3: possible to what the design is that we are shown.
Speaker 3: And what's funny is because sometimes the craziest looking things
Speaker 3: appear in the water, and sometimes things appear that that
Speaker 3: almost seem to sort of match a certain phrase, like,
Speaker 3: for example, there was one person who said that an
Speaker 3: and of course we were we're focusing on taking people's names,
Speaker 3: but we have occasionally taken phrases from people as well,
Speaker 3: but that's a lot more complex, and we're really preferring
Speaker 3: to do names. But at one point I did a
Speaker 3: sigil for a guy and he said he wanted this
Speaker 3: to be a sigil of just absolute manifestation power from
Speaker 3: a being beyond, and like, okay, whatever, it's a lot,
Speaker 3: a lot of a lot of words, but we'll see
Speaker 3: what comes down. And the sigel came out, and I
Speaker 3: swear to you it looked just like a giant hand
Speaker 3: with an index finger pointing coming down out of the sky,
Speaker 3: like the hand of God.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 3: And we see these kinds of things that are so weird,
Speaker 3: and so you don't know what it's going to look like.
Speaker 3: And and so whenever somebody gets one, we send it
Speaker 3: to the person and we're always wondering, if you know,
Speaker 3: if the person's actually going to like it, And so far,
Speaker 3: every single person has loved it, and of course if
Speaker 3: they don't like it. Well, there's nothing I can do
Speaker 3: about that, because all we're doing is showing what appears
Speaker 3: in the water. But yeah, it must resonate in some
Speaker 3: way with people on a for lack of a better word,
Speaker 3: a spiritual level. And you know, you and I have
Speaker 3: talked about this subject before and how that's it's interesting
Speaker 3: that I consider this to be a perfect blend of
Speaker 3: science and art. So we have this procedure in which
Speaker 3: we actually play these frequencies to create these patterns in
Speaker 3: the water, and that requires a certain degree of mathematical skill,
Speaker 3: getting all the ratios right, to the size of the bowl,
Speaker 3: the carrier tones that we use, the amount of water,
Speaker 3: all that stuff has to be right to get any
Speaker 3: type of a cimatic reaction. But then I actually speak
Speaker 3: the person's name, So now you're switching over to the
Speaker 3: human side. I'm putting some a human touch in there.
Speaker 3: And then ultimately, when Lauren she extracts that final image artistically, well,
Speaker 3: that's also a human element. And so this is a
Speaker 3: combo of science and art, and I think that that's
Speaker 3: perhaps the best way to approach something that's going to
Speaker 3: connect with a human because human beings are also this
Speaker 3: mix of these bodies that operate kind of like chemical
Speaker 3: and electrical machines. But then we also have this mysterious
Speaker 3: thing called the mind, the consciousness, the spirit, and they're
Speaker 3: all merged together, and this is almost like a reflection
Speaker 3: of that relationship.
Speaker 2: And what I mean, I have my sigil and the
Speaker 2: mighty effort that he has her sigil. Now we have
Speaker 2: them on our phones. I've got them on my desktop.
Speaker 2: I'm looking at it right now. How else, I mean,
Speaker 2: how do we utilize it? Do we put it on
Speaker 2: a T shirt? What do we do?
Speaker 3: Well? Yeah, absolutely, you know, anytime you get the sigil,
Speaker 3: and if you get one of these, it's yours. You
Speaker 3: own it, Okay, you can do whatever you want with it.
Speaker 3: And for people who might be sitting there saying, well,
Speaker 3: this all sounds really interesting, but what exactly is the
Speaker 3: purpose of this to begin with? What's the point? Well,
Speaker 3: here's here's one way of looking at it. Let's take Superman.
Speaker 3: Superman is always Superman, whether or not he's wearing his
Speaker 3: suit with his big S on it. But when he
Speaker 3: really needs to pomp up the superpower, he puts on
Speaker 3: the sigil. That's what the big S is it's a
Speaker 3: big sigil. And when you see that sigil, even though
Speaker 3: it's a sigil of a fictional character, we all know
Speaker 3: immediately what that means, and it conjures up a lot
Speaker 3: of feelings and images and concepts for us. And so
Speaker 3: I believe that when you are able to condense your
Speaker 3: something about your identity into an abstract symbol, that it
Speaker 3: somehow enhances your bio energy field. And it only good
Speaker 3: things can come of it because it was only created
Speaker 3: with good intention, and I believe that it acts like
Speaker 3: an antenna for better things to happen in your life
Speaker 3: in general.
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