1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: I, nineteen female, am being excluded from our gaming group. 2 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: I decided to find a new group. Boyfriend twenty male 3 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:12,480 Speaker 1: is the one upset. I would never be excluded from 4 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: a gaming group. 5 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 2: Tell us more. 6 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:37,880 Speaker 3: So, g majem jemma keep going, he does. 7 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 1: I am in a gaming group that has about ten 8 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:44,239 Speaker 1: members eighteen to twenty five female slash Mail, including my 9 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 1: boyfriend and I. A month ago, I had a fallout 10 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 1: with a member in the group who who I'll call 11 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 1: Roger twenty five male. Basically, I don't like Roger. All 12 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: he ever does is degrade and talk about how women 13 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: are backstabbing bees who you can never trust. 14 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 4: Oh my god, Oh I thought I was thinking like 15 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:11,040 Speaker 4: actual beats, sorry. 16 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:20,039 Speaker 1: You never trust, and how much he loves to smooth 17 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: and those are connecting statements. 18 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 2: That's awesome, sounds like my best friend. 19 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 1: Concerning hearing those things constantly became a drag. So I 20 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: decided that I didn't want to be around him anymore. Ever, 21 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:37,839 Speaker 1: since I cut off contact, I've been excluded from games 22 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 1: where Roger plays because he doesn't want me there. Even 23 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: my boyfriend told me not to join because it'll piss 24 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,400 Speaker 1: off Roger. Obviously, I don't want to play with Roger either, 25 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: so this is fine with me. The thing is, when 26 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: Roger's playing, I'm excluded from the group as I can't 27 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: play with anyone else because they're all playing with Roger. 28 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: This happens three to four days every week, and they 29 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: play for five to six hours a day. 30 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 5: This is eight Yeah probably D and D. Yeah, it 31 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 5: sounds like D and D. But I'm like, sometimes Roger's 32 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 5: not there. Eight like hours and hours four. 33 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: Days a week is a lot to play D and D. 34 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 1: Five to six hours is not like that is a 35 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 1: regular time. 36 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 2: Regular time to play one game with D and D. Yeah, 37 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:21,799 Speaker 2: a session takes a long time. 38 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:25,359 Speaker 1: Yeah they're long session or is like a short amount 39 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:27,679 Speaker 1: of hours. Yeah, but three to four days is a lot. 40 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 2: That's time. Yeah, I do. I played a bunch of 41 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 2: games too. It's good. So he is trying to do 42 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:35,239 Speaker 2: a D and D game. 43 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, I'm excited. But back to this story. 44 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 1: I'm really shy, so I don't talk much in the 45 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 1: group games besides doing the usual call outs. I know 46 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: everyone would much rather play with Roger than me, since 47 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: he's more outgoing and fun to them, so I don't interfere. 48 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 1: Even so, I still feel for being left out constantly. 49 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: My boyfriend didn't even defend me the first time I 50 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: was excluded horrible. He just told me to not join 51 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 1: ever again and left it at that. 52 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 2: Sir, God, sir. 53 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 1: Only one other person in the group has defended me, 54 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 1: and that's my best friend nineteen mail since middle school. 55 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:14,639 Speaker 1: When I first told him about the situation, he got 56 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: really angry and asked me if I wanted him to 57 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: stop playing with Roger too. I know my boyfriend and 58 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 1: best friend loved playing with Roger, though, so I didn't 59 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:24,239 Speaker 1: ask them to stop. Last night, Roger and the group 60 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: were all playing again. I decided to look for some 61 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:29,519 Speaker 1: other group groups online to play with because being alone 62 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:30,519 Speaker 1: sucks well. 63 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 5: On a break, so she's on her laptop, like off 64 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 5: to the side, ten people just laugh and have a 65 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 5: jolly old time. 66 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 2: She's like, it's like. 67 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: I need so bad, this is so sad. 68 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 2: Are they playing online? 69 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 5: No? 70 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 1: I think they're playing in person, but she's looking for 71 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: groups online. 72 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 2: To play with. 73 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. 74 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 2: Wow. 75 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 1: On a break from his game, my boyfriend asked what 76 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: I was doing. I told him casually that I was 77 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 1: looking for a new gaming group to play with. His 78 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: reaction was not what I was expecting. He got up 79 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 1: and kept questioning me why I wanted to leave our 80 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: old gaming group, but he already told her to leave. 81 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: He said, don't come back get me. 82 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, why would you leave? I only told you. 83 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 1: I told you to leave. I told him, since I'm 84 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 1: being excluded from our old group so often, I may 85 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: as well find a new group to play with because 86 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 1: I obviously don't fit in anymore. Even after my answers, 87 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:20,280 Speaker 1: he would keep asking me why I couldn't just stay 88 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 1: and participate in the group often. How am I supposed 89 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 1: to participate in a group when I'm being excluded from 90 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: it weekly. At that point, I told my boyfriend to 91 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: stop talking to me about the subject and to leave it. 92 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 1: He then said to me that I was overreacting to 93 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 1: being excluded from the group, and that went on a 94 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 1: rant about why I couldn't just be happy for once 95 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 1: since he still plays with me daily. My boyfriend and 96 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 1: I do play daily, but we play alone with just 97 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 1: us too, since no one else in the group can 98 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: play at the times we're online. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. 99 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: Being excluded from playing with everyone else is what makes 100 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: me feel like shit. Not being excluded from playing with 101 00:04:57,839 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 1: my boyfriend. I told him that if I find a 102 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 1: new group, I would always play with him first, no 103 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: matter what. However, I just want to find a new 104 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 1: group to play with when he and everyone else are 105 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: playing with Roger, since I can't join in the first place, 106 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 1: and playing alone sex. He said fine in an annoyed tone, 107 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: and we looked it at that. We haven't spoken about 108 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: it since, but I can tell he's upset over it. 109 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: Am I really overreacting to the situation. Do I just 110 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: ignore my boyfriend for now? Do I say something? This 111 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: is the first time I've ever seen him so upset 112 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: over something I did. I'm not sure what to do. 113 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 1: And there is an update. 114 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 2: Something she did. 115 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 4: Somebody who wants to play with you, which is you 116 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 4: want to play with them? 117 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 2: Excluded they shouldn't hang out with Roger. 118 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, sorry, but you can't hang out with someone who's like. 119 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: He seems blatantly misogynistic. 120 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 2: That guy, it was Roger, the one that everyone likes. 121 00:05:52,400 --> 00:06:00,799 Speaker 2: We love Roger women so hilarious. I wonder. 122 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:03,799 Speaker 5: Okay, so she said that the group ranged from eighteen 123 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 5: to twenty five. I wonder if it's a bunch of 124 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 5: like eighteen nineteen year old dudes that are like, you know, 125 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 5: Roger's like twenty five, and he's really freaking living. 126 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 2: Life with old season. 127 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 5: You're freaking hating dad, just like insulting women, Like yeah, 128 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 5: what op. 129 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 1: Is nineteen and then the boyfriend is twenty, so they 130 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 1: are a couple of years younger. 131 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 2: Than Roger and Roger twenty five. 132 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, and Roger knows everything about the world. 133 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 2: Leader, He's the leader of the pack. Yeah. 134 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 5: Listen, guys, I'm around the block. 135 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, you get so much weed. You can't hang out 136 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 2: with that guy? 137 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 4: Oh no, but it's I mean, it's a red flag 138 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 4: that the boyfriend is just going along with all. 139 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 5: Yeah. 140 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 1: Also, break up with the boyfriend. 141 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, break up with that dude. Break up with 142 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 2: the boyfriend. 143 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: Ye, tak him out, tak him out, take him out. 144 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. 145 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 5: But also like I don't know why the boyfriend's met Like, 146 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 5: if she actually is wanting to stay with a boyfriend, 147 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 5: then I would not advise. 148 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 2: Her to do that. 149 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 5: But it sounds like the boyfriend, I don't know why 150 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:00,679 Speaker 5: he would be mad that she's trying. 151 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 2: To gain with other people. 152 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, he told her that she can't play with them 153 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 1: as it's controlling. Yeah. There we have it. 154 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 2: We have a baby, but there is an update. 155 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: Thank you everyone for all the advice, and thank you 156 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: to those that also offered to play with me. I 157 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: wasn't expecting my post to get so many flies. 158 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 2: Sweet. 159 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: Unfortunately, I had some unrelated to family business, so I 160 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 1: couldn't respond to you all. However, I have read everything 161 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: and have taken all your words into consideration. Some people 162 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: have also asked me questions about how we can play 163 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: so often as we asked, yeah, how long I've been 164 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 1: with my boyfriend, etc. So I'll just give a brief 165 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: background skip to the next line if you don't want. 166 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 2: To read it. We do. We do. 167 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 1: First off, most of us are college students eighteen to twenty, 168 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 1: either working part time or staying at home with our parents. 169 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 1: As of right now, most of us are on summer break. 170 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: We only have two older members in the group, which 171 00:07:55,200 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 1: are Roger twenty five mail, other guy twenty three male. 172 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: The rest of us are or fall under twenty. Roger's 173 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: actually married and his wife makes good banks, so he 174 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: has tons of free. 175 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 2: Lunt so much the worst what He's a. 176 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 4: Free Rogers just sitting out here gaming with a bunch 177 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 4: of eighteen year olds. 178 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 2: Mary cash in hand yeah. 179 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: Saying that he hates all women as his like wife is. 180 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 2: Paying every stick. Dude, what do you say? I totally 181 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 2: miss that? 182 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: Hold on old on Wait, he says backstapitches who you 183 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 1: can never trust. 184 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 2: He said women are backstabbinges you can never trust. Yeah. 185 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: The two things we know about Roger is that he 186 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: thinks all women are backstepitches who you can never trust. 187 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 1: And he loves to smoke weed and do drugs. 188 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 2: And he's married his wife. 189 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 1: Ye makes all the cats we know about Roger. Yeah, 190 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: and he's twenty five starry. It's four things. 191 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 2: He's like. 192 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 5: He's like, women are so dumb they'll marry a twenty 193 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 5: five year old. 194 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: Oh, and then if he can news. Second about my boyfriend. Surprisingly, 195 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: we met through the gaming group as he was the 196 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 1: one who advertised it, which was how I found and 197 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 1: joined the group. That was about two years ago, and 198 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 1: about a couple of months after we met, we just 199 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 1: clicked and started dating. Oh, after a couple months they 200 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 1: started dating. My boyfriend has known Roger for about three years, 201 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 1: so they're close friends. However, Roger did not join the 202 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 1: group until six months ago, as my boyfriend invited him 203 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: because he thought it'd be fun to have him there too. 204 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 1: I didn't know much of Roger other than that he 205 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: was my boyfriend's friend until he joined the group. So 206 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 1: after I posted my original post, I signed up for 207 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: two different groups. The first one was an all women's 208 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 1: group sixteen twenty female. They responded to me pretty quickly. 209 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 1: They were very nice and polite, but explained that they 210 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: only play once to twice a week. Unfortunately, that didn't 211 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 1: cut to the week. 212 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 2: What game they. 213 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm obsessed with this game. I understand at summer break, 214 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 1: but you know. 215 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 5: Doesn't hit my quota touch Yeah, go for a while. 216 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. Unfortunately. 217 00:09:59,200 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. 218 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 1: So the second group responded to me the next day 219 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 1: and I learned that they were more active, but they're 220 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: also in all men's groups seventeen to nineteen mail. However, 221 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 1: they were open to having me there. At first, I 222 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: felt pretty sketched. But the oldest and most popular guy like. 223 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:15,079 Speaker 2: This weird factions. 224 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 1: The guy he's still in high school. 225 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's on the varsity football. 226 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, nineteen mail there took me aside and explained 227 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 1: to me that he doesn't tolerate any type of harassment 228 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 1: and that he will definitely kick out any of the 229 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: other guys if they were bothering me. He sounds so cool, dude. 230 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 5: He's school at first, but then I'm like, maybe this 231 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 5: guy's like, as long as you just be my girlfriend. 232 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 1: A man does, That's the only way I respect a woman. 233 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 1: Hearing that made me feel more comfortable, and I played 234 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: some games with them. I had so much fun. All 235 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 1: the guys were really nice and friendly, no actual remarks, 236 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: no more screaming about profanity against women, et cetera. Oh, 237 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 1: it was nice being in a group of people who 238 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 1: were happy to play with me. 239 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 2: It's sad. 240 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:21,199 Speaker 1: After I finished my games and left, my boyfriend called 241 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 1: me and asked if. 242 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 3: We could talk. 243 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 1: When he came over, before I could even ask or 244 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:28,679 Speaker 1: speak myself, he told me he was really sorry and 245 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: that he screwed up big time and he understands how 246 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 1: wrong he was. He said he didn't want me to 247 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: go to a new group because he feared that I 248 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 1: would leave him too for some new guy. Then he 249 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: told me that he didn't realize how hurt I was 250 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:43,679 Speaker 1: from being excluded from the group because I never complained 251 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 1: or voiced against it, which was true. I never complained 252 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:49,679 Speaker 1: about the exclusions or even Roger's behavior before, because I 253 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 1: knew it would just cause more conflict. I also didn't 254 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:53,959 Speaker 1: want my boyfriend to stop playing with his friends because 255 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 1: of me. I explained this to him, and he said 256 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 1: he was sorry for not defending and comforting me, like 257 00:11:58,840 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 1: he should have been in the first. 258 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 5: Place, didn't She She went and was like, yeah, I'm 259 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 5: finding groups because you don't want me to your excluded. 260 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:09,680 Speaker 1: He was like, I didn't realize that meant that you 261 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 1: were hurt that we were excluding you. 262 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, you cannot read between the lines. A man really can't, 263 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 2: so she. 264 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 1: Shouldn't have to say she shouldn't have to tell him that. 265 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 1: Roger like attacking all women, realized. 266 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:29,599 Speaker 5: That would be also him being like, I thought you 267 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 5: were going to. 268 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 2: Date another guy from your other gaming group is back 269 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:33,959 Speaker 2: to you. 270 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:36,319 Speaker 1: That's the only reason I'm apologizing. 271 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 2: Is this the guy from the first story? 272 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is his new girlfriend eat To my surprise, 273 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: he then showed me his text messages between him and 274 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 1: Roger that happened a few months ago. Apparently, way before 275 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 1: my exclusion. Roger had a few conversations with my boyfriend, 276 00:12:57,160 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 1: telling him how much of a pain it was to 277 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: play with me. There he wanted my boyfriend to kick 278 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 1: me out. However, my boyfriend refused and told Roger that 279 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:08,680 Speaker 1: was not happening. 280 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 2: That's crazy. 281 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 4: Still brought him in and is like, I love how 282 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 4: long ago is this? 283 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 2: Months before a. 284 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:20,319 Speaker 1: Few months ago, Roger messaged him about this is this. 285 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 4: Like are we like way in the future now like 286 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 4: like yes, Like when when did these events first start? 287 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:28,679 Speaker 1: Like I mean the text between Roger and no. 288 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 4: So the text were a couple of months ago. When 289 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 4: did like she get like ostracized from the group or 290 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:33,439 Speaker 4: it's all the same, she. 291 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:37,559 Speaker 1: Just recently got ostracized, but she started playing. Yeah, so 292 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 1: I think right from the get go, Roger was like Roger. 293 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 2: Over his girlfriend. 294 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 5: Roger is so funny, five, he's so cool. 295 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 1: Then around the time when I decided to stop hanging 296 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: out around Roger, that's when Roger sent a group text 297 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 1: to everyone in the group explaining how he doesn't want 298 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: me to play with the group again, and he hopes 299 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:04,199 Speaker 1: everyone understands that's crazy. Everyone, and to my shock, even 300 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 1: my best friend, all agreed with him. Why only my 301 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 1: boyfriend protested. But Roger was really stubborn and he had 302 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 1: the whole group to support him. So my boyfriend gave 303 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: up after showing me these texts. He told me next 304 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 1: that he kicked Roger from their group earlier today. 305 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 2: Finally it is too latest. He's like, okay, I go 306 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 2: back in the group and everyone hates me now. 307 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: Like, yeah, Roger was not allowed to play with them anymore, 308 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 1: but my boyfriend said he'd still be willing to play 309 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: with Roger one on one, but only like once a month. Surprisingly, 310 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 1: Roger agreed and that was that. My boyfriend said he 311 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 1: understood if I didn't want to be with him anymore, 312 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: but said that he truly does love me honestly, even 313 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 1: after all that has happened. I'm not mad at my boyfriend. 314 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 2: Oh, but you should be. 315 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 5: Should exceptship. 316 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: This is both of our first relationship and we're still learning. 317 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 1: He's always been kind to me and I've never had 318 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: a problem with him before this situation occurred. But also 319 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 1: the relationship lasted. It's only been a couple months. Yeah, 320 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: and the problem occurred because. 321 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 2: You know, so there's been problems the entire time. 322 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: I've lost my place. 323 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 2: Oh. 324 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 1: I feel happy that he realized his mistakes and did 325 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 1: apologize without me asking. This is the first time he's 326 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 1: ever come across the situation where he has no choice 327 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 1: but to choose a side. So I don't blame him 328 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 1: for trying to do anything to keep the group together. 329 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 5: Except for the time where Rogers said, I'm not going 330 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 5: to play with your girlfriends, so kick her out of 331 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 5: the group. Uh. 332 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 1: He told me he would also like me to come 333 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 1: back to our old group, but he said it's completely 334 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 1: fine if I stay with my new group. He knows 335 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 1: it was wrong of him to ask me not to 336 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 1: join a new group. I told him I don't think 337 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: I'll ever come back to the old group, and then 338 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 1: I will definitely be sticking with my new group from 339 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 1: now on. However, I will always make time for him 340 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:59,359 Speaker 1: and put him first. He accepted it without any protests, 341 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 1: and we went back to our usual fun activities. I 342 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: feel bad that my boyfriend may have lost a close friend, 343 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 1: since I never asked him to do any of that 344 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 1: for me. Regardless, I'm happy, and lately my boyfriend and 345 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 1: I have been spending more time together now that Are 346 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 1: he's not even Roger anymore. He's just Are isn't around 347 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 1: as much. I have also continued playing with my new group, 348 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 1: and it's been awesome. If you made it this far. 349 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 1: Thanks for reading this long update. Thank you guys. Once again, I. 350 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 2: Don't really like how it ended. 351 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 1: There are some relevant comments. 352 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 5: Oh like a little flag. Yeah, Roger sucks. Boyfriend sucks, 353 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 5: best friend sucks. We should play with her. 354 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 2: Exactly? Is that really? It's not? Probably not your best 355 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 2: friend then no, no they were kids. 356 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 5: But she's like no, buts there She says, like my 357 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 5: best friend since we were yellow, which is crazy. 358 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think op is like in like this puppy 359 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 2: love face, just. 360 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 5: Like, oh no, it's okay, Like I think a low 361 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 5: bar for what friendship and left looks like. 362 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 1: Relationship, right, She's like this is normal, like we're learning, 363 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 1: but no, this is it sucks not to do. 364 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:19,399 Speaker 5: Roger's like a super villain to be. I could be 365 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 5: in the same room as Roger. So it's like crazy 366 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 5: to me that everyone's defending this weird guy. 367 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:26,919 Speaker 1: Well, he seems like he's like that type of personality 368 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:29,919 Speaker 1: where he's like everyone listens to me and follows me, 369 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 1: like he has. 370 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 2: This of the group. But these little gamer boys are 371 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 2: just like our hero. 372 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:38,640 Speaker 5: I want to know what game they're playing so bad? Yeah, 373 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 5: they always do this to us. They always like leave 374 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 5: out a crucial detail. 375 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I feel like it's got to be some 376 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 1: game where it's like high energy, like combat stuff. Yeah, 377 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 1: there's a lot of shouting, and I don't feel like 378 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:50,919 Speaker 1: Minecraft would do that. 379 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:56,439 Speaker 5: Ten people in the group, Yeah right, like who the. 380 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 1: Kind of team game? But there are some Eleman comments 381 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 1: the batman and to my Bruce says, I don't like Roger. 382 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 1: All he ever does is degrade and talk about how 383 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: women who are back stabbing bitches who you can never trust. 384 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: It's sad, but some people are just like that quote. 385 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:13,679 Speaker 1: Roger's actually married and his wife makes good banks, so 386 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 1: he has a ton of free time. And then this 387 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 1: person says, wait, what does she stab him in the 388 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 1: back with money? 389 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:23,880 Speaker 2: That's what you wondering? What is that? What back with money? 390 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 6: Like he's like, because he's a he's funny, you know. 391 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 1: She says, Yeah, I thought that was kind of weird too. 392 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 1: He talked about women all the time, but he's married, 393 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 1: bride of Chucky Doll says, I'm stuck on that as well. 394 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 1: Sounds like Roger has an inferiority complex and I'm betting 395 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 1: he'll soon also have a divorce to go with it. Yeah, 396 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 1: Davianna Morgan says, OPI, I hope you're reconsidering your relationship 397 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:59,119 Speaker 1: with your best friend who had you kicked from the group. 398 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 1: Opie says, I'm definitely reconsidering it. I did confront him 399 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 1: about the group text that occurred a month ago, and 400 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 1: he confirmed it was true that he agreed with Roger. 401 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 2: He's doubling down. Yeah, yeah, did you what he said? 402 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 1: He said he didn't want to tell me because he 403 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 1: knew it hurt my feelings. Shocking. I know he did 404 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 1: offer to leave the group before, but I'm still feeling 405 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 1: off on how he didn't even defend me in the 406 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 1: first place. Yeah. Crichton Coro says, that's pretty snake in 407 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: the grass there, very two faced. Pernes says, probably hoping 408 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: she would leave the group and break up with boyfriend, 409 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:35,360 Speaker 1: then he could swoop in with her, none the wiser 410 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 1: he was part of the reason she got pushed out. 411 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 1: Opie says, I certainly hope not, but now I'm not sure. 412 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 1: For starters, my best friend is gay. Despite Roger's attitude, 413 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 1: He's a charmer and caught my best friend's attention for sure, 414 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 1: And that's. 415 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 5: She's implying like her best friend of a question at Roger. Yeah, 416 00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:00,119 Speaker 5: so he was like, yeah, anyway, my friend sucks in 417 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 5: the group. 418 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 1: At first, I thought he agreed with Roger because he 419 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:05,199 Speaker 1: had a crush on him. But a week before my 420 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:08,120 Speaker 1: original post, my best friend admitted to me that while 421 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 1: he was attracted to guys, he said he finds me 422 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: different from most girls and would love to have a relationship. 423 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 1: It was I really hope that's not the case. 424 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 2: Though, but it is the case. He just said, I 425 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 2: literally just told you he. 426 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 5: Wanted you out of the gaming group and then also 427 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:26,120 Speaker 5: to date you. 428 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:28,439 Speaker 2: That's crazy. It was like, oh my god. I was 429 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 2: like wiggling around. I was like, oh, maybe it's. 430 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 1: Where is this going. 431 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:36,360 Speaker 5: It's what the commenter said right where he was like 432 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 5: he was trying to get her out of here, quickly 433 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:40,719 Speaker 5: hoping that she wouldn't get wise to the fact that 434 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:42,680 Speaker 5: he was part of the coup to get her out, 435 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:44,640 Speaker 5: and then sweep it and be like, oh my god, 436 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 5: I'm so sorry, SOLS just kicked you out of the group. 437 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 2: Let me be your shoulder. 438 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 1: He was like, no, no, no, I couldn't possibly be it 439 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 1: because he's gay. But then again, he did tell me 440 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:59,919 Speaker 1: specifically and also he likes me. 441 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 2: Yeah that's yeah. Wow, you need to do friends op. 442 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:06,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, new gaming. 443 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 2: They have that new game group. Yeah, they stick with them. Yeah, 444 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 2: I ADVI for this person. 445 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,439 Speaker 5: It's just like have friends that are just normal. Yeah, 446 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:17,119 Speaker 5: Like I feel like everyone is playing a weird dimensional 447 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:20,399 Speaker 5: chess game with each other in the game they're playing. 448 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so weird. Yeah. Actually that's for advice. That's great. 449 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 2: Just leave everyone. 450 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 1: I think that's for today. 451 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 452 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, go on a walk for thirty years miles, we 453 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,439 Speaker 1: we had all unperfect people today. 454 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely. 455 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 5: If you could share with the people where they could 456 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 5: learn to become a perfect person, absolutely well. You can 457 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 5: listen to my podcast, Perfect Person. 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But if you love us, make sure to subscribe. 465 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 2: We love you and see you tomorrow. 466 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 5: We totally should have prepped you for that. 467 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:24,639 Speaker 2: This is an episode from deep within the archives. 468 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 5: Time for okop relam. 469 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 4: I'm mad at my wife for backing out a Thanksgiving 470 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 4: because my mom didn't like her cookies. 471 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 5: You know, if someone doesn't like your cookies, I think 472 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 5: that's grounds for leaving the family. 473 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 4: Let's see if this person's dable. Context for every holiday, 474 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,160 Speaker 4: my mother would ask the woman in the family, my sister, 475 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,119 Speaker 4: sister in law, my wife, my female cousins to send 476 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 4: samples of the desserts they plan to bring to the 477 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:53,440 Speaker 4: celebration for testing, to see if these desserts could make 478 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 4: it to the food menu, the prestigious food menu. My 479 00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 4: wife has been complaining about my mother deliberately rejecting every 480 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 4: dessert sample. She said, so savage God. So many times 481 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 4: my mother has told her that she's being honest and 482 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,640 Speaker 4: keeping the guests best interest at heart, not letting your 483 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 4: shit wo covin. 484 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 5: Well, I'm letting your disgusting piece of filth wife cook 485 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:19,919 Speaker 5: a cookie. 486 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. 487 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 4: My wife still thought that my mother was deliberately excluding her, 488 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 4: since two of her dessert samples were rejected before. 489 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,679 Speaker 2: This is so weird. This is such a weird dessert sample. 490 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 2: This thing is very strange. I don't like it. 491 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 4: For this year's girl says, my mother is doing the 492 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:36,439 Speaker 4: same thing, but this time, he said, just like a 493 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 4: dessert sample. She told every woman who was participating to 494 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 4: make a cookie sample and send it to her for testing. 495 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 2: Oh my wife took. 496 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 4: It as a challenge, and to be honest, she worked 497 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 4: really hard to make a good sample and sent it 498 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,880 Speaker 4: to my mother days ago and the results just came 499 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 4: in yesterday. What is this fucking like a weird show? 500 00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 5: And like op is like so useless, Like oh yeah, 501 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:03,160 Speaker 5: it's it's the desert. And it's like, bro, why why 502 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 5: are you like doing this with all Like what what 503 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 5: is this? 504 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 2: What is this for competition? Literally? Like what the hell? 505 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 4: I came home from work and found my wife upset. 506 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 4: I asked her what's wrong, and she told me that 507 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,919 Speaker 4: my mother rejected the sample she sent and decided to 508 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 4: exclude her baking from the Foodless Slash menu for Christmas 509 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 4: this year. 510 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:22,640 Speaker 2: Oh my god. I didn't know what to. 511 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 4: Say, but she then told me she was backing out 512 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 4: of the invitation to attend Christmas with my family. I 513 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 4: was stunned when I heard her make this statement. I 514 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 4: tried to talk to her, but she said it was 515 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 4: done I called her unreasonable decide to bail on the 516 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:41,360 Speaker 4: whole family over some cookie sample. That's just freaking crazy 517 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:45,120 Speaker 4: and quite unreasonable. But to be fair, the cookie see 518 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 4: up like shit is unreasonable in the first place. 519 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 2: What the hell is that shit? 520 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 4: Literally we had a full on argument about it, and 521 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 4: she stated that my mother caused this, but I told 522 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,400 Speaker 4: her that my mother is pretty serious and careful about 523 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 4: the fuji offers to the guests since we were going 524 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 4: to have relatives from all all sides of the country. 525 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 4: I mean, you told me to stop mentioning it. Later 526 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,639 Speaker 4: I heard her cry despite telling her that her baking 527 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 4: is amazing and people have preferences, that's all. So am 528 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,880 Speaker 4: I the a hole for insisting that her decision wasn't reasonable. 529 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 2: Who cares about your stupid fucking like what are we 530 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 2: doing here? Like? Bring it so simple? 531 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 5: Anyone who wants to cook something, You bring a thing, 532 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 5: you set it out, and people eat it or they don't. Yeah, 533 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,880 Speaker 5: it's so sick that the people decide it's so it's 534 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 5: so so simple. 535 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 2: But maybe they're. 536 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 4: Doing something where it's like they're like they have a 537 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 4: dish that's pretty set and they're giving it to everyone. 538 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 5: I don't know, maybe, but also like, like, if you 539 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 5: think about it like this, logistically speaking, you're like, you 540 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:44,439 Speaker 5: have family coming in for all over the place. You 541 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,160 Speaker 5: need a lot of food. Yeah, so you would probably 542 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,880 Speaker 5: excluding people. You would want as much food as possible 543 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 5: to make it as easy as possible and have as 544 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 5: much options as possible. It's ridiculous. But there's some more updates. 545 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 5: Oh God, if you're asking whose cookie sample made it 546 00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 5: to the menu, the answer is my sister and my 547 00:25:59,160 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 5: two cousins. 548 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 4: Some more info. My wife wasn't the only one who 549 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 4: sample was projected. We have sister in law's brother's wife 550 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 4: and my younger sisters. My mother did not force anyone 551 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 4: to participate. It was up to whoever who wanted to 552 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 4: take part. This is just about the dessert since my 553 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 4: mother tends to be very careful in this category, but 554 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 4: for other types of food dishes, appetiser, salad, stuff like that, 555 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 4: she's more welcome to more people. 556 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 5: This setup is dumb as fuck, it's weird, dumb as fuck, 557 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 5: and he doesn't realize it because he's like grown up. Yeah, yeah, 558 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 5: this is a stupid and nobody should do this. 559 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 2: Update. 560 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 4: So I just got off the phone with my brother, 561 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 4: and he told me that his wife is doing the 562 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 4: same thing as my wife and that she has backed 563 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 4: out of the invitation to spend Christmas with my family 564 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:44,919 Speaker 4: as well. Turns out my wife must have told her 565 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 4: about her decision and she decided to follow her lead. 566 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:52,399 Speaker 4: My brother's pissed, saying, my wife is encouraging a rebellion. 567 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 2: I see that the problem that's gotten bigger now. 568 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,119 Speaker 4: Who knows my younger sister if I joined in and 569 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,159 Speaker 4: decided not to go as well, I know it. Know 570 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,679 Speaker 4: how to control this, and it's gotten down to control 571 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 4: so quickly. I guess we'll try to have a discussion 572 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,119 Speaker 4: with my mother about this soon and see how it goes. 573 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 2: This is so funny. He's so stupid. Really backfired on him. Wow,