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Speaker 1: all of my guests are Anna. So let's again this

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Speaker 1: week's episode. Why do you think the media doesn't share

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Speaker 1: our stories when it comes to this. Yeah. You know, um,

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Speaker 1: I noticed a trend as I was growing up. It

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Speaker 1: was always, um, it was always white people in commercials,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It would never would barely

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Speaker 1: see black people in commercials or black people presented in

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Speaker 1: a in like a first character presentation when it comes

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Speaker 1: to acting in movies. So now starting since we're starting

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Speaker 1: to have more of a voice and we're not allowed, um,

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Speaker 1: allowing our culture to be silenced, they're starting to appreciate

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Speaker 1: and adopt more of our inclusion into these projects and

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Speaker 1: starting to push it more, even though I haven't. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I've been pushed, but I haven't been pushed as far

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Speaker 1: as I would like to go because I still have

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Speaker 1: the you know, the dominant race. That's that's that's been

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Speaker 1: in it for a while, that's still stupit handing it.

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Speaker 1: So now they're kind of like, okay, here, let me

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Speaker 1: this is interesting, this is gonna change the tone and everything.

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Speaker 1: Here's a blacker. So but I think it was it

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Speaker 1: was them thinking that this is the appropriate presentation of this.

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Speaker 1: This is the image that everyone was looking for. Our

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Speaker 1: what was presented. So we're changing the tone of that.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we're we're in everything. We're gonna be in this,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna be in that, We're gonna be in paranormal

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Speaker 1: We're gonna be in uthology. We're gonna be a part

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Speaker 1: of this. Yeah, are not gonna shush with our experiences anymore.

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Speaker 1: We put on the foreground just like any other culture,

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Speaker 1: any other race, and we heard and not be in

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Speaker 1: to see U pos or get to like, yeah, they're

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Speaker 1: the first, you know, they're the first to talk about it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I seen it, you know, me and Rover seen it.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's always there. The wait, do you think

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Speaker 1: the media does a good job with depicting what paranormal

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Speaker 1: activity is or do you think they kind of I

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Speaker 1: don't want to say glamorize it, but yeah, I guess

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Speaker 1: plants and glitter. They add a lot of plants and

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's what we were going through. We

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Speaker 1: It was a very, very very and there's so many

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Speaker 1: my god, the energies are definitely still there. So it's

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Speaker 1: something with that land. I never did a lot of

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Speaker 1: research on that land. What what What's what's up with that? Lad?

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Speaker 1: What do you want to just from my own sake,

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Speaker 1: happened beforehand, what was here persisting, what might have caused

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Speaker 1: So I do an extensive amount of research and documentation

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Speaker 1: and it just helps people understand their area, the history

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Speaker 1: their spirits are still, you know, resurrecting and moving about

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Speaker 1: the home. Um. But you know, it just gives me

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Speaker 1: how many investigations have you done? Oh, because I feel

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Speaker 1: like you've done. I have done in the state of Missouri. Um,

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Speaker 1: investigations I've done. Yeah, I have so much documented footage.

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Speaker 1: And some some people that I've done investigations with, they

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Speaker 1: what is called a psychologically impacted start statute. So if

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Speaker 1: if it's known to be haunted, none of that. In Missouri,

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Speaker 1: And it's it's it's crazy. You know that. I'm trying

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Speaker 1: So have you ever experienced a spirit attaching themselves to you,

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Speaker 1: property or the house to where it's too challenged for

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00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,400
Speaker 1: them to leave, and they want to try to figure

430
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,679
Speaker 1: out how to make make some type of amends or

431
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,840
Speaker 1: have some type of compromise with them. But you guys

432
00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:02,320
Speaker 1: are willing to do the conditions of that just to

433
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:06,440
Speaker 1: be there, just to say I wanted I didn't leave

434
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 1: my home, and you know, just whatever there was probably

435
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:14,639
Speaker 1: there before that house was built. Right, But if these

436
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:18,479
Speaker 1: energies were people before, I'm assuming when they know what

437
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 1: you're trying to do, I think you've gotten so more

438
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:28,439
Speaker 1: so much more sophisticated. And that's just it's weird to

439
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,920
Speaker 1: say that, but I'm just I think they're starting to

440
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 1: recognize more about and become more aware of our existence.

441
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 1: And the reason why I say that is because whatever

442
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:42,200
Speaker 1: I take my investigative equipment into an investigation, it drains.

443
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 1: They drained my battery completely. My cell phone gets strained,

444
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,959
Speaker 1: my caner equipment gets strained. I have to have backup batteries.

445
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 1: Those get drained. Um And you think, I'm just like

446
00:25:56,680 --> 00:26:00,119
Speaker 1: they have a conscious without a conscious, if that makes sense. Oh,

447
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:02,879
Speaker 1: it's like that's why I'm just We're still doing so

448
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,360
Speaker 1: much research to find out, you know, how did they

449
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,440
Speaker 1: are they aware? What is the level of their awareness?

450
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:11,639
Speaker 1: You know, each each level is so different. What is

451
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 1: the level of their awareness and their ability to actually

452
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 1: comprehend what's going on and what we're doing? You know,

453
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 1: that's insane, point taken. I just did an investigation at

454
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,200
Speaker 1: a place called the Blossom House here in Kansas City,

455
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:30,440
Speaker 1: and it's a tall commercial building in with five floors.

456
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 1: Floor number four was the local was the building, was

457
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 1: the floor that had the most activity reported on it.

458
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,920
Speaker 1: So I set up my WiFi camera. Um, I set

459
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:44,920
Speaker 1: up my WiFi camera, plug it in, and I set

460
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 1: up my actual portable WiFi and I plugged it in

461
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,640
Speaker 1: on that floor because I was like, if anything happens,

462
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:54,160
Speaker 1: at least it is directly wired to that WiFi portable

463
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 1: WiFi and then all into electrical units so they can't

464
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,439
Speaker 1: drain a battery because it's float into a wall. For

465
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 1: for some reason, I said, I'm not gonna be able

466
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 1: to see all the footage from number four. So when

467
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 1: I went back to review all the footage, I was

468
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 1: able to review everything for the first day, but I'm

469
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:15,200
Speaker 1: talking about thirteen fourteen hours of footage that I would

470
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 1: have to go through for each camera. So I have

471
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 1: four two, floor three, and four four set up. Nothing

472
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 1: for floor four, absolutely nothing, no document. Everything is gone

473
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,440
Speaker 1: from the fourth floor, but I can see everything from

474
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 1: the second floor in the third floor before number four,

475
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:39,440
Speaker 1: it's gone. They figured it out somehow and they blocked

476
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 1: me from seeing everything. And that's when I said, they

477
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 1: got to be so sophisticated to where its like they

478
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 1: scrubbed everything. I can't see nothing from the fourth floor,

479
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:51,440
Speaker 1: and that was the main floor I wanted to see.

480
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:56,120
Speaker 1: And that's what the actual Yeah, but that's what That's

481
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,400
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. They're they're just it's just what are

482
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 1: we dealing with here? This is a different level of

483
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,919
Speaker 1: This is a different level of intelligence, you know, and

484
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,880
Speaker 1: it's just these energies are just so much more sophisticated,

485
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 1: and they're getting more sophisticated with technology. I said, there's

486
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 1: gotta be something else going on that we are missing

487
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 1: that we're being able to to give a definitive connection

488
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 1: to and actually understand. Okay, these things can do a

489
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 1: lot more than what we're talking about. We need to

490
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 1: be careful. You need a lot more careful, you know. So, Yeah,

491
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,200
Speaker 1: but it's it's still so much more research that we're

492
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,879
Speaker 1: doing and and the biggest thing that helps us is

493
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 1: people's testimonies when they come to us and tell us

494
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 1: what they're experiencing. It helps us gage a better understanding

495
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 1: of what what these energies are able to do. Mm hmmm.

496
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 1: Do you feel like we have misconceptions about spirits and

497
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 1: if so, what do you think they are? Yeah, it

498
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 1: depends on the person's religious denomination and what they were

499
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 1: trained to believe is truth. Right, So we're taught that

500
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 1: they're heaven and hell, which I you know, I'm not

501
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 1: in a disagreement with that, and that you know, we

502
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 1: either sift this way resift that way. You know. The

503
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 1: whole in between things is just kind of like a

504
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 1: mirage or something like that. So I think from from conception,

505
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 1: we're trained to believe that there's a limitation on the

506
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 1: spirit's abilities to interact with Thus they're limited or they

507
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 1: either go one way or the other. So there's like

508
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 1: it's like a veil that's pulled over our eyes and

509
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 1: a vail that that is not allowing us to actually

510
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 1: see the truth behind what these these spirits and these

511
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 1: energy forms can actually do and where they actually go.

512
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 1: Are they reincarnated? Are we reincarnated and these energy forms

513
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 1: reverted back into another living being, you know, like a

514
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 1: plant or an animal, or are they pushed back into

515
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 1: something else, which I believe, you know, because it's energy,

516
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 1: So energy recycles itself, you know, it recycles itself with

517
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 1: some form. So if it goes back into another human,

518
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 1: or if it goes back into an other animal, you know,

519
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 1: I believe it just kind of recycles. So I think,

520
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 1: I think that's one thing that we are we are

521
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 1: trained not to believe it's true. Some of us are

522
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 1: trained not to believe it's true that reincarnation is is

523
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 1: this this taboo thing? And then there's been situations even

524
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 1: in my own life, where I'm able to recall having

525
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 1: lived in a different form and having lived in a

526
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 1: different era, under a different identity and be able to

527
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 1: all those things and my dreams and just like deja

528
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 1: vu kinda factah. And you know, even with our dreams,

529
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 1: I felt like we are in a state of um.

530
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 1: We we're sent to what I consider different realms. So

531
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 1: sometimes have you ever remembered remembered a dream and that

532
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 1: dream felt so real, it felt like you were there,

533
00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 1: and you can recall all the details of that dream,

534
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 1: the smell, the delighting, the clouds, everything, And then you

535
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 1: wake up and you feel like, gosh, well, I feel

536
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 1: like my other home is somewhere else, but I'm here

537
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 1: in this war. So that's another thing I feel like

538
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 1: we are taught to just disregard or not to acknowledge.

539
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 1: It's the fact that we have these abilities, probably like

540
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 1: the extraterrestrials, to teleport to different realms, or to report ourselves,

541
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 1: or to have that astral projection or you know, to

542
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 1: to be able to see things in other realms. And

543
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 1: I just believe it's so much more truth than what

544
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 1: they're they're they or what we're able to capture and document. Yeah, fact,

545
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 1: nah man, you need your on show man. I cannot

546
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 1: I know you're working on something. We've been doing this

547
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 1: over two hours. I'm gonna gere and let you go.

548
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 1: But I think this was like like I have two

549
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 1: more questions and that's it. But just to hear these

550
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 1: things coming from somebody that look like me, I'm old.

551
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 1: People are gonna be able to resonate with this so

552
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 1: much because even with the dreams, like I feel like

553
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 1: for me, I feel like God do send messages to

554
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,719
Speaker 1: me through dreams, And even one dream I had was

555
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 1: I had a dream that my grandma was preparing to transition,

556
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 1: and literally days later she transition. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, Like

557
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 1: it's like we have these dreams and you're just saying,

558
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 1: I'm just like wow, Like I really do think there's

559
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 1: something more to that out there. It definitely is um

560
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 1: And I don't try to get I don't denounce anybody's

561
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 1: you know, religious denomination or faith, you know, if what

562
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 1: you everybody needs something to believe in. Everybody's that have

563
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 1: faith in something to to steer them. But um, but

564
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 1: I always encourage people to understand that, you know, there's

565
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 1: different amphibians and creatures out here for a reason. To

566
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 1: just stay open minded to other things. Being a part

567
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 1: of the truth that we haven't been explained, right. Understand that.

568
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 1: You know, if you just said, do you believe that

569
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 1: there's other planets out there? Do you believe there's life

570
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 1: on other planets? If you tell me yeah, then you

571
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 1: gotta believe that there's other things in this world that

572
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 1: are that are able to project themselves in our realm,

573
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 1: and we're able to project ourselves in these other realms.

574
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 1: You gotta believe that if you believe in other am

575
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 1: I afraid you're not? As much as I've been through

576
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 1: as a triald and the things that I've seen and

577
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 1: how to go through, fear is a different dynamic for me.

578
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm no longer fearful of finding my truth

579
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 1: or searching for a different version of truth. The thing

580
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 1: that UM makes me more fearful is not doing anything

581
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 1: at all. I'm afraid that I won't or I won't

582
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 1: have any kinetics and do anything that allows me to

583
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 1: UM to seek out a different version of truth. Because

584
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 1: if we're infinite, if we're if we're definitely guaranteed to die,

585
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, This life ain't gonna be forever,

586
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 1: so we're guaranteed to die and we're guaranteed to transition

587
00:33:55,240 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 1: into whatever form that that we transition into. So, um,

588
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 1: you know, I lost my train of thought thought I

589
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 1: heard my daughter come downstairs. So we're guaranteed to die.

590
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 1: So I don't believe that I should be so afraid, Like,

591
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,840
Speaker 1: I'm not afraid of that. I don't believe that I

592
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 1: should be so afraid of searching for other truths. It's

593
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 1: not like you know, I'm gonna be immortal or something

594
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 1: like that. Well, will I be immortal? I'm I really

595
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 1: don't know, but be afraid to investigate because if if

596
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 1: this is this is the life that I live, that

597
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 1: hasn't you know that has an ending? Why not search

598
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 1: out as much as I can before I am facts facts,

599
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,799
Speaker 1: and last not least throughout all your investigations. How do

600
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 1: you protect yourself? Okay, So, like I said, everybody has

601
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 1: to have something they believe in. And I'm a big

602
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:55,959
Speaker 1: I'm a big meditator, and I've used meditating, and I've

603
00:34:56,080 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 1: used the components of meditation to help calm me and

604
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 1: to also calm my my my, my consciousness. So I

605
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 1: use stones. I take stones with me. You got black termline, Yes,

606
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 1: I take it with me. Everywhere. Yeah, I carried it

607
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 1: with me everywhere too. Yes, yeah, I take my Tiger Eye,

608
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 1: I take my actually have this yellows a dream that

609
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 1: I take with me too. I take it every single where.

610
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 1: I take it everywhere with me because that is my

611
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 1: oracle of faith. Those are my protective barriers. And um,

612
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not I'm not heavy in astrology or

613
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 1: any of that stuff, but I feel like these stones

614
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 1: have a a chemical balancing mechanism for me and my energies.

615
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 1: So I feel like they protect me when I go

616
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 1: and do these investigations, and they protect me when I

617
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:57,399
Speaker 1: go to these different locations and search out these energy forms. Now,

618
00:35:57,960 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 1: I also say, you know, if it's meant for me

619
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:02,879
Speaker 1: to go in this format, one of these energies take

620
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 1: me out or something like that, then it was meant

621
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 1: for me to go. But if not, then this is

622
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 1: the oracle of faith that I take with me. I

623
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 1: take these stones with me. Mm hmm. Well, y'all, I

624
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 1: hope you all enjoyed this conversation with the fine Black Ghostbuster.

625
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 1: I appreciate you. Um to the listeners if you want

626
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 1: to know more about her. I know all my guests

627
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 1: are anonymous. But she does have a book. I read it.

628
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 1: I supported, so please email me in hello at the

629
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 1: PSG podcast dot com. She left a cliphanger, so hopefully

630
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 1: we'll be having in her second installment coming out really soon,

631
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 1: this one next year, next year. And I really appreciate you.

632
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 1: I think this was an amazing conversation. Yeah, it's it is.

633
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 1: It's always amazing to have these conversations with people that

634
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 1: look like us. It makes me feel so good. I'm

635
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:58,839
Speaker 1: so proud of this platform that you have recognizing black

636
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 1: women in a different light, and I'm so loving it.

637
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: And anything that gives us recognition and acknowledgement, I am

638
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 1: so there for it. Yeah. And so with the email,

639
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 1: oh my god, she was quick. I did. I saw this.

640
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 1: I didn't really respond it in like five minutes. I

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Speaker 1: was like, yes, I stoked my email. I get so

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Speaker 1: many emails, and I feel you doing. I saw that.

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Speaker 1: I was like, I definitely I gotta connect with her,

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Speaker 1: so so more of us women of color can come together,

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Speaker 1: share our education, our experiences, our status is and just

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Speaker 1: connect with each other. Yes, it's build, yes and build

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Speaker 1: so and we're gonna definitely build for sure. So I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna definitely keep you. We're gonna talk more after this,

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Speaker 1: but until next time, everyone later, thank you,