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Speaker 1: From the Berkshires to the sound from wherever you live

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Speaker 1: in MLB America. This is Inside the Parker. You give

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Speaker 1: on major League Baseball. Now here's Baseball Hall of Fame

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Speaker 1: voter number seventy six, Rob Parker. Welcome into the podcast.

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Speaker 1: I'm your host, Rob Parker. A great show for you today.

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Speaker 1: It is the milestone edition of Inside the Park. I'll

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Speaker 1: tell you what that means. And Ben Verlander from Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports dot Com he'll join us. Also Steve Marcus, baseball

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Speaker 1: writer from New York. He'll talk about Aaron Judge and

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Speaker 1: if he gets that record, what it means to him.

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Speaker 1: Let's go up to lead off. It's getting robbed to

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Speaker 1: keep him on. Rob's hot take on the three biggest

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Speaker 1: stories in Major League Baseball. Number one coming into Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: Aaron Judge said at fifties seven home runs after he

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Speaker 1: which doesn't happen often. Uh, it hasn't happened. It's only

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Speaker 1: And imagine all the fans in St. Louis who loved

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Speaker 1: There's so much stuff to get to. First Tuesday night,

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Speaker 1: so after after Marris hits home runs in nineteen sixty one,

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Speaker 1: on Barry Bonds. You know, why did they get to

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Speaker 1: these big numbers because they very likely were assisted by steroids.

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Speaker 1: All right, let me stop you here we go. Were

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Speaker 1: Pettit and Roger Clemens are a couple, Steve. When we

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Speaker 1: they were facing guys who also we're using juice? Is

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Speaker 1: that not? Don't you take that into consideration, Rob, I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to be cliche here, but you know,

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Speaker 1: two wrongs don't make it right now. I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: it's right. Well, I agree with you that they're wrong,

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Speaker 1: but that's I'm not I'm not sure that that's the

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Speaker 1: But the point is we're talking about people that set

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Speaker 1: that specter of steroids with him. But it wasn't in

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Speaker 1: you and I were born, right, that somebody could hit

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Speaker 1: been have been diluded and diminished, and so what do

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be great, It's not going to be the record.

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Speaker 1: It's not going to be recognized as the record. But

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Speaker 1: to you, who's kind of the purist that I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: you know, I consider it to be the record, but

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Speaker 1: it's not going to be a record. Um, that's a

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Speaker 1: that's already been said by by Bud sealigg Um and

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Speaker 1: So what does it mean anyway? If you want to

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Speaker 1: answer that type of conversation. No, I wanted just to

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Speaker 1: get your take because I thought it was interesting. But

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Speaker 1: there he is, Steve Marcus, Uh, he knows more baseball

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Speaker 1: than I that forgot more baseball than I know. My

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Speaker 1: good buddy Steve, I always want to check in with

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Speaker 1: Thanks Rob always now bringing the clothes there. Here's why

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Speaker 1: MLB is better than the NFL or NBA, and it

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Speaker 1: isn't even close. Reason number four hundred and fifty five

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Speaker 1: why Major League Baseball is better than the NBA and

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Speaker 1: the NFL. And it all comes with the way people

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Speaker 1: see baseball. People can watch the game, play the game, uh,

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Speaker 1: be an analyst for the game, be just a fan,

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Speaker 1: and nobody sees it the same. Take C C. Sabathia,

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Speaker 1: who thinks that show? Hey, O Tani already with a

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Speaker 1: lifetime to sixty batting average, and no, Sy Young's is

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Speaker 1: it last year. He's arguably having him year and and

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Speaker 1: I understand everything that Jedge is doing. He's gonna I

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Speaker 1: think it's gonna be incredible to watch him. You know,

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Speaker 1: Chase down six in the Yankees uniform and if it

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Speaker 1: wasn't for him, they would probably not even be in

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Speaker 1: the playoff picture. But this guy is literally the best

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Speaker 1: player that we've ever seen. I understand why c C

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Speaker 1: but I'm sorry, he's not the greatest player we've ever seen.

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Speaker 1: This is way too premature. But then again, this is

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Speaker 1: baseball and this is what fans do. They love to

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Speaker 1: debate about who's the best and who's the best players

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Speaker 1: we've ever seen, and where they fit and rank in

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Speaker 1: the game. In the words of New York TV legend

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Speaker 1: the late Bill Jorgensen, thanking you for your time this

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Speaker 1: time until next time. Rob Parker out. He can't get it.

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Speaker 1: This could be an inside the Parker to see you

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