WEBVTT - BONUS: Interview with Tenderfoot TV Producer Jaime Albright 0:00:03.920 --> 0:00:07.400 You're listening to Facing Evil, a production of iHeartRadio and 0:00:07.480 --> 0:00:11.160 Tenderfoot TV. The views and opinions expressed in this podcast 0:00:11.320 --> 0:00:14.120 are solely those of the individuals participating in the show 0:00:14.400 --> 0:00:17.560 and do not represent those of iHeartRadio or Tenderfoot TV. 0:00:18.200 --> 0:00:21.280 This podcast contains subject matter which may not be suitable 0:00:21.320 --> 0:00:24.160 for everyone. Listener discretion is advised. 0:00:27.880 --> 0:00:31.640 Hi, everyone, welcome back to Facing Evil from Tenderfoot TV 0:00:31.960 --> 0:00:33.440 and iHeartRadio. 0:00:33.720 --> 0:00:34.600 We are your host. 0:00:34.920 --> 0:00:38.879 I'm vet gin Lay and I am Roscha Piccquerero, and 0:00:39.000 --> 0:00:46.680 today is a very special episode. Our dear friend, our beautiful, amazing, 0:00:46.960 --> 0:00:53.320 talented badass, Jamie Albright is here with us today and 0:00:54.040 --> 0:00:57.080 she's not only a dear friend of yvet Nay, but 0:00:57.240 --> 0:01:02.640 she is our Tenderfoot TV. Ohana and Jamie, I am 0:01:02.960 --> 0:01:05.880 so honored that you are here today, and I know 0:01:06.840 --> 0:01:09.360 all of us at Facing Evil are as well, but 0:01:10.080 --> 0:01:13.880 I want to introduce you properly to our listeners at 0:01:13.920 --> 0:01:18.760 Facing Evil. So not only did Jamie get a Bachelor 0:01:18.840 --> 0:01:23.520 of Sociology from Kenesaw State University in twenty thirteen, she 0:01:23.640 --> 0:01:28.280 also completed her forensic interview training in twenty fourteen. She 0:01:28.360 --> 0:01:33.000 has a master's of Social Work from Valdosta State University, 0:01:33.080 --> 0:01:37.880 which that was in twenty eighteen. And she is a 0:01:37.959 --> 0:01:42.520 producer on some of the best podcasts that are out there, 0:01:43.319 --> 0:01:45.759 just to name a few, some of our personal faves, 0:01:46.000 --> 0:01:51.600 MLK tapes, Kim Kardashian's The System and of course Gaining Ground, 0:01:51.840 --> 0:01:55.480 Algorithm Sworn, all the things. And on top of that, 0:01:55.600 --> 0:01:58.200 she's a mother of six children and she started having 0:01:58.200 --> 0:02:00.240 babies when she was five, and. 0:02:00.360 --> 0:02:03.920 She does not look old enough, not at all, not 0:02:04.120 --> 0:02:04.440 at all. 0:02:04.760 --> 0:02:08.680 So I know it's so much, but I know you 0:02:09.080 --> 0:02:12.280 need to know who Jamie Albright is. 0:02:13.200 --> 0:02:16.400 Jamie Ekomo may welcome to facing you all. 0:02:16.840 --> 0:02:19.560 Thank you so much Russia any of that, and thank 0:02:19.560 --> 0:02:23.440 you for that very lovely introduction to everyone. I'm really 0:02:23.480 --> 0:02:25.799 happy to be here. I love the work that you do, 0:02:25.960 --> 0:02:30.360 and as I've told you both, I loved your podcasts 0:02:30.400 --> 0:02:32.440 before I ever met you and had the opportunity to 0:02:32.480 --> 0:02:36.520 work with you at Tenderfoot, so I'm excited to be here. 0:02:37.639 --> 0:02:40.119 Oh my god, Jamie, We're just so thrilled to have 0:02:40.200 --> 0:02:43.520 you here. You know, I have so many questions that 0:02:43.560 --> 0:02:46.160 I want to ask you, but the first question that 0:02:46.200 --> 0:02:48.880 I want to start with, especially you know, Russia and 0:02:48.919 --> 0:02:53.080 I working on facing evil and dealing with so many 0:02:53.160 --> 0:02:57.200 of these horrific cases. And you know, when I think 0:02:57.200 --> 0:03:00.760 about you, I think about different cases like Angela Simoda, 0:03:00.800 --> 0:03:03.440 and I think about one of her best friends who 0:03:04.320 --> 0:03:08.040 was so changed because of that event that happened in 0:03:08.120 --> 0:03:12.600 her life that she then became a private investigator because 0:03:12.600 --> 0:03:16.040 of you know, that that thing that changed. 0:03:15.720 --> 0:03:19.960 Her whole life. How did you get into this industry? 0:03:20.080 --> 0:03:25.359 Did something you know, happen when you were younger and 0:03:25.400 --> 0:03:28.880 it made you want to get into this particular field. 0:03:29.560 --> 0:03:33.119 Yeah, so nothing happened to me like that specifically put 0:03:33.160 --> 0:03:37.560 me into this field. But I've always just wanted to advocate. 0:03:37.640 --> 0:03:39.760 I mean, it's kind of a funny story. My dad 0:03:39.800 --> 0:03:42.680 loves to say, like you were born rescuing kittens from 0:03:42.720 --> 0:03:45.360 a gutter, and you know, you're always finding something that 0:03:45.480 --> 0:03:49.080 was an important cause to you. And I think that, 0:03:49.160 --> 0:03:52.480 you know, when I became a mom, my children's safety 0:03:52.560 --> 0:03:55.560 was something that was really important to me. I will say, 0:03:55.600 --> 0:03:58.560 I come from the generation where you know, you hug 0:03:58.640 --> 0:04:01.680 every uncle and you don't say you don't want to 0:04:01.760 --> 0:04:05.240 hug that person. And there were times when I wanted 0:04:05.240 --> 0:04:07.480 to have a voice, and it was kind of just 0:04:08.040 --> 0:04:10.600 not acceptable at that time. So one thing with my 0:04:10.720 --> 0:04:12.920 children I always did before I even worked in this 0:04:12.960 --> 0:04:15.640 field was if you don't want to hug someone, you know, 0:04:15.680 --> 0:04:17.640 it's your body, your choice. If you don't want to 0:04:17.680 --> 0:04:20.039 sit on someone's it's your body, your choice. That was 0:04:20.120 --> 0:04:23.880 always really important to me. And then when I started 0:04:24.080 --> 0:04:25.640 deciding what I wanted to do when I went back 0:04:25.680 --> 0:04:28.839 to school, It's kind of a silly story, but I 0:04:28.839 --> 0:04:32.040 became obsessed with the TV show Special Victims. 0:04:31.720 --> 0:04:38.560 Unit, Oh Yes, yes, and I just thought, oh my gosh, 0:04:39.080 --> 0:04:42.240 a lot of those shows are based on things that 0:04:42.279 --> 0:04:45.080 have happened, and I really thought, I just cannot believe 0:04:45.160 --> 0:04:47.640 that we live in a world where there are so 0:04:47.800 --> 0:04:51.039 many children who face trauma and even you know, women 0:04:51.080 --> 0:04:51.880 and men as well. 0:04:52.279 --> 0:04:56.159 But for me, the children's stories really just impacted me. 0:04:56.800 --> 0:04:59.240 And I should say, anyone who works in the field says, 0:04:59.480 --> 0:05:02.040 never say that, because people will go, oh my gosh, 0:05:02.080 --> 0:05:02.800 nothing we do. 0:05:02.800 --> 0:05:04.599 Is like that. It's very different. 0:05:05.240 --> 0:05:08.200 But I will say I work alongside people who are 0:05:08.320 --> 0:05:12.920 superstars in this forensic interview world, detectives that really care 0:05:13.080 --> 0:05:15.800 about the work that they do. And that's why, even 0:05:15.839 --> 0:05:19.479 though I produce podcasts. I still keep myself in that 0:05:19.560 --> 0:05:21.800 forensic interview world because I'm passionate about it. 0:05:21.920 --> 0:05:25.120 Right, I guess another question that I have for you is, 0:05:26.080 --> 0:05:28.520 in the industry that you're in, are there a lot 0:05:28.560 --> 0:05:34.560 of women that are forensic interviewers? And if so, let 0:05:34.640 --> 0:05:37.840 us know and also let us know, like for people 0:05:37.920 --> 0:05:40.600 that are interested in getting into the field, like how 0:05:40.600 --> 0:05:44.279 would they go about, you know, becoming a forensic interviewer. 0:05:45.120 --> 0:05:49.000 Sure so, Actually, yes, the field is predominantly women. I 0:05:49.160 --> 0:05:52.760 say girl power all the time. As a matter of yes, 0:05:52.880 --> 0:05:55.680 at the center that I still conduct interviews at, we 0:05:55.760 --> 0:05:58.919 have a female attorney, we have a female director. I 0:05:58.960 --> 0:06:01.799 mean it's just you do see a lot more women 0:06:02.279 --> 0:06:04.760 in the field of forensic interviewing. And I will say 0:06:05.120 --> 0:06:07.480 it would be nice to see Mormon. We did have 0:06:07.520 --> 0:06:10.000 a male interviewer, and it was nice because there were 0:06:10.120 --> 0:06:13.440 times when a young boy may want to connect with 0:06:13.920 --> 0:06:16.719 a male interviewer. You just don't ever know. So having 0:06:16.720 --> 0:06:21.280 the diversity in the field is really important. If someone 0:06:21.320 --> 0:06:23.520 wants to get in the field, I would say to 0:06:23.839 --> 0:06:27.279 do your research and find out what exactly you want 0:06:27.320 --> 0:06:29.800 to do, because being a forensic interviewer is not the 0:06:29.839 --> 0:06:32.480 same as being a police officer or a detective. It's 0:06:32.640 --> 0:06:36.159 very different. A forensic interview is conducted at a child 0:06:36.200 --> 0:06:40.080 advocacy center in a safe environment where that child is 0:06:40.520 --> 0:06:44.360 you know, can disclose, and we partner with law enforcement 0:06:44.520 --> 0:06:47.560 to provide this piece of the criminal investigation, which is 0:06:47.600 --> 0:06:51.040 that interview. For me, I stayed home with my children, 0:06:51.200 --> 0:06:54.760 and then my last year of my bachelor's program, I 0:06:54.800 --> 0:06:57.960 did an internship at a very amazing police department in 0:06:58.000 --> 0:07:02.039 our area and met this inner viewer who an advocate, 0:07:02.080 --> 0:07:04.520 who told me it's a tough field to get into. 0:07:05.480 --> 0:07:09.920 So I started volunteering as what's called a sexual assault 0:07:10.000 --> 0:07:13.440 response team coordinator, and I would come out all hours 0:07:13.440 --> 0:07:16.600 of the night and coordinate a response team if there 0:07:16.680 --> 0:07:20.520 was a victim of alleged a sexual assault. And that 0:07:20.640 --> 0:07:22.520 just kind of helped me learn the field. And then 0:07:22.560 --> 0:07:24.960 I kept going to my schooling and I found an 0:07:25.000 --> 0:07:27.880 opportunity to attend forensic interview training, which is a week 0:07:27.960 --> 0:07:32.480 long alongside detectives and other people in the field. And 0:07:32.600 --> 0:07:35.360 I actually did that myself. I didn't have a job. 0:07:35.640 --> 0:07:37.600 A company put me through that, and I just kept 0:07:37.600 --> 0:07:41.040 working towards the goal that I had, and once I 0:07:41.040 --> 0:07:43.320 had that opportunity to interview at the same center where 0:07:43.360 --> 0:07:46.160 I was a start coordinator and an advocate, it was 0:07:46.320 --> 0:07:49.400 it was great. And when I say great, I mean 0:07:49.400 --> 0:07:51.840 that I was able to do what I knew I 0:07:51.840 --> 0:07:54.280 wanted to do to be part of that field. 0:07:54.760 --> 0:07:57.200 But it is a tough field to work in. 0:07:57.880 --> 0:08:02.040 It makes sense that there's so many women, predominantly women, right, 0:08:02.080 --> 0:08:06.360 because women have so much empathy and so much heart, 0:08:06.440 --> 0:08:10.800 and so much patience, you know, and kindness, So that 0:08:10.880 --> 0:08:11.800 makes a lot of sense. 0:08:12.320 --> 0:08:14.480 I do want to say, like Jamie, we're so fortunate, 0:08:14.520 --> 0:08:17.640 of course to know your story because we've fallen in 0:08:17.760 --> 0:08:21.560 love with you over the past, you know, two years, 0:08:21.600 --> 0:08:25.360 because you know, even though Facing Evil debuted, you know, 0:08:25.600 --> 0:08:28.960 in twenty twenty two, we've been working on it since 0:08:29.000 --> 0:08:32.920 twenty twenty and I have to share this story with you. 0:08:32.960 --> 0:08:34.960 I think we've shared a little bit with you before, 0:08:35.000 --> 0:08:37.760 but not in depth. When we had our very first 0:08:37.800 --> 0:08:44.199 meeting with your amazing brother, Donald Albright, you know, co 0:08:44.400 --> 0:08:48.720 creator and you know CEO of Tenderfoot TV alongside Payne Lindsay. 0:08:49.520 --> 0:08:53.680 What attracted Evet and I so much to Tenderfoot TV 0:08:54.720 --> 0:08:58.440 was the way that he lifted up his entire team 0:08:58.559 --> 0:09:02.560 and most especially you, Jamie, Like he was like, I 0:09:02.600 --> 0:09:05.080 work with my sister, and trust me, it's not just 0:09:05.120 --> 0:09:09.800 because she's my sister. This amazing, brilliant, amazing human who 0:09:10.360 --> 0:09:14.440 is making huge difference in so many lives. With all 0:09:14.480 --> 0:09:18.000 of that being said, I would love to know because 0:09:18.160 --> 0:09:20.400 we get asked this question all the time, like what 0:09:20.520 --> 0:09:24.440 is it like working with your siblings and what brought 0:09:24.480 --> 0:09:27.920 you to Tenderfoot, Like what was that conversation? Like like 0:09:28.000 --> 0:09:31.160 how did you go from you know, being a forensic 0:09:31.200 --> 0:09:34.680 interviewer and you know, working at that incredible center to 0:09:35.080 --> 0:09:38.760 still doing that and also joining the Tenderfoot t V. 0:09:38.840 --> 0:09:39.240 Johanna. 0:09:40.040 --> 0:09:42.680 Yes, well, first, I love that that my brother was 0:09:42.720 --> 0:09:45.079 so sweet about me, because you know, your siblings don't 0:09:45.080 --> 0:09:45.600 always tell. 0:09:45.480 --> 0:09:49.040 You that, like to you right right. 0:09:50.040 --> 0:09:51.640 But Donald and I've always been closed. 0:09:51.640 --> 0:09:56.679 We're only fifteen months apart, and when he I kind 0:09:56.679 --> 0:09:58.440 of have a funny story. He was in the music 0:09:58.440 --> 0:10:01.640 industry before and I was iving to grad school listening 0:10:01.640 --> 0:10:03.600 to podcasts and he called me and said he was, 0:10:04.000 --> 0:10:05.520 you know, do you listen to podcasts? And I was 0:10:05.559 --> 0:10:07.960 like yeah, And he said, Okay, I think I'm going 0:10:08.000 --> 0:10:09.080 to start a podcast company. 0:10:09.120 --> 0:10:10.640 I was like, what, I was like. 0:10:10.679 --> 0:10:12.400 So sry. 0:10:14.760 --> 0:10:17.000 I was really concerned because I'm like, I don't know 0:10:17.040 --> 0:10:18.200 if people make money doing this. 0:10:18.320 --> 0:10:19.360 I don't know what's happening. 0:10:20.760 --> 0:10:22.840 But I remember even saying, well, I know people that 0:10:22.880 --> 0:10:24.840 maybe you can talk to, because I wanted to support 0:10:24.920 --> 0:10:27.840 him as much as I could. And you know, I 0:10:27.960 --> 0:10:30.600 was amazing to watch Up and Vanished take off, you know, 0:10:30.640 --> 0:10:33.240 he and painted such great work on Up and Vanish. 0:10:33.320 --> 0:10:34.839 And then what a lot of people don't know is 0:10:34.840 --> 0:10:37.480 while I've been working for Tenderfoot officially for a few years, 0:10:37.520 --> 0:10:40.160 when Atlanta child Murders came out, he reached out to 0:10:40.160 --> 0:10:40.840 me and said. 0:10:40.600 --> 0:10:43.400 Hey, can you read these? Can you look at this? 0:10:43.600 --> 0:10:46.320 Because of my background as a social work have a 0:10:46.360 --> 0:10:49.440 master's in social work and trauma, you know, just being 0:10:49.480 --> 0:10:52.520 trauma informed, and so I love that, you know, he 0:10:52.559 --> 0:10:55.320 reached out to me because we want our shows to 0:10:55.360 --> 0:10:57.760 be sensitive to the fact that the people who were 0:10:57.760 --> 0:11:01.679 speaking to have experienced trauma, and we don't want to 0:11:02.000 --> 0:11:04.160 sensationalize their stories. You want to tell them in a 0:11:04.200 --> 0:11:07.560 respectful manner. And that's one thing I've always loved about 0:11:07.640 --> 0:11:08.240 the work. 0:11:08.040 --> 0:11:08.640 That we do. 0:11:08.720 --> 0:11:12.680 Hear at Tenderfoot, and so you know, it's interesting because 0:11:12.679 --> 0:11:14.760 he'll say to me sometimes, so are you are you 0:11:14.840 --> 0:11:17.480 ever going to come like officially full time and not 0:11:17.520 --> 0:11:20.000 forensic interview, And I'll talk about it and then he'll go, 0:11:20.280 --> 0:11:22.360 you know what your heart is? In both places, those 0:11:22.440 --> 0:11:25.760 I feel very blessed and I'm able to continue doing both. 0:11:26.559 --> 0:11:29.160 So anyway, I worked a little bit on at landa Monster, 0:11:29.280 --> 0:11:31.560 kind of in the research and looking up family members 0:11:31.600 --> 0:11:33.840 and kind of talking about the trauma piece. And then 0:11:33.880 --> 0:11:35.439 each time there was a project, if he had the 0:11:35.440 --> 0:11:37.959 opportunity to loot me in kind of just to see 0:11:38.000 --> 0:11:40.559 what my thoughts were, then I would help with that. 0:11:40.640 --> 0:11:43.600 And so once I finally officially thought okay, yes I'm ready, 0:11:43.640 --> 0:11:46.480 I want to do this work, I'm just thrilled to 0:11:46.520 --> 0:11:48.600 do it. At Tenderfoot, I love working with my brother. 0:11:48.640 --> 0:11:52.000 We get along very well. I get no special treatment. 0:11:52.040 --> 0:11:53.520 I do want to say that because. 0:11:56.440 --> 0:11:58.760 It makes me actually want to work harder, because I 0:11:58.800 --> 0:12:01.720 want us to have a good show and a good 0:12:01.720 --> 0:12:04.360 product that I always want us to be aware of 0:12:04.400 --> 0:12:07.560 the stories we're telling. So you know that's kind of 0:12:07.559 --> 0:12:10.520 my story, and I really I feel blessed every day 0:12:10.559 --> 0:12:13.000 to do things that I love so much. 0:12:13.040 --> 0:12:34.680 It doesn't feel like work. I do have another question 0:12:34.840 --> 0:12:38.480 for you. You know, we talk about these cases again. 0:12:38.760 --> 0:12:42.280 You know they're heavy, and especially what you do, Jamie, 0:12:42.960 --> 0:12:47.200 how do you decompress because you are such a bright light, 0:12:47.360 --> 0:12:51.199 Like your spirit is always so positive, your attitude is 0:12:51.480 --> 0:12:55.760 always positive. How do you stay like that? First of all, 0:12:56.200 --> 0:12:59.760 what do you do to decompress from these cases? You know, 0:12:59.800 --> 0:13:02.680 to take care of yourself, to give yourself that self love? 0:13:03.040 --> 0:13:04.160 Yeah, well, thank you. 0:13:04.280 --> 0:13:05.800 First of all, I feel that way about you guys, 0:13:05.800 --> 0:13:09.439 Like I just love whether we're exchanging text messages or 0:13:09.520 --> 0:13:12.199 quick you know, social media, Like I just love that. 0:13:12.240 --> 0:13:13.880 Like I feel that from you. 0:13:13.880 --> 0:13:17.760 Guys just radiate this positive energy, and I think that 0:13:17.760 --> 0:13:22.040 that's so important. Burnout is high for people who work 0:13:22.120 --> 0:13:25.280 in these types of fields, and I see that on 0:13:25.320 --> 0:13:27.880 the law enforcement side, a lot of our detectives or 0:13:27.920 --> 0:13:29.960 time there is getting less and less. And that's just 0:13:30.000 --> 0:13:34.080 not in Georgia, that's nationwide Special Victims Unit. They work 0:13:34.120 --> 0:13:36.880 with really tough cases. And in the field of social 0:13:36.880 --> 0:13:41.440 work it's very high as well. So I have always 0:13:41.559 --> 0:13:45.560 only interviewed part time, and that is very intentional for me. 0:13:45.679 --> 0:13:48.640 Even before I worked at Tenderfoot, I did some curriculum 0:13:48.640 --> 0:13:52.040 writing and some other things at schools that really warmed 0:13:52.080 --> 0:13:54.040 my heart because I remember saying I get to see 0:13:54.120 --> 0:13:55.840 happy children at the school. 0:13:55.880 --> 0:13:57.480 It just was that balance for me. 0:13:58.559 --> 0:14:01.440 I think it's important to make sure that we practice 0:14:01.480 --> 0:14:03.880 self care, and that's a word we hear a lot. 0:14:04.320 --> 0:14:06.880 But what that means is whatever brings you to a 0:14:06.960 --> 0:14:12.679 place of peace. You can feel trauma in your body. 0:14:13.040 --> 0:14:14.400 And there's secondary. 0:14:13.960 --> 0:14:16.600 Trauma where I hear this story and it's I can 0:14:16.640 --> 0:14:19.160 feel my heart race and I'm really like, oh my gosh, 0:14:19.160 --> 0:14:22.120 this was tough to hear, and I'm processing it and honestly, 0:14:22.120 --> 0:14:25.120 with forensic interviewing, I'm visualizing it because I'm trying to 0:14:25.760 --> 0:14:30.640 see what they experienced. And then there's the long term 0:14:30.760 --> 0:14:35.000 VI carryus trauma where I'm now viewing the entire world 0:14:35.800 --> 0:14:38.880 like that person, that person, that person, they could all 0:14:39.000 --> 0:14:42.320 be child molesters. And I do not want to view 0:14:42.360 --> 0:14:44.160 the world that way. I want to view the world 0:14:44.840 --> 0:14:47.960 with open eyes and I don't want to let the 0:14:48.000 --> 0:14:51.240 things I hear change my image. And so for me, 0:14:52.120 --> 0:14:55.280 I have a very supportive husband and he is not 0:14:55.480 --> 0:14:57.880 afraid to tell me why are you looking at that? 0:14:57.920 --> 0:14:59.080 Before you go to pass y. 0:15:01.920 --> 0:15:05.600 I mentioned that I loved to watch you know, True 0:15:05.600 --> 0:15:07.760 crime constantly before I worked in it. 0:15:07.800 --> 0:15:10.040 I don't do that as much anymore. Right, you might 0:15:10.080 --> 0:15:10.920 watch something. 0:15:10.680 --> 0:15:14.080 That's lighthearted because I listened to so much of it, 0:15:14.200 --> 0:15:16.240 you know, for work and things that I try to 0:15:16.280 --> 0:15:19.800 do more lighthearted things. I fell in love during the 0:15:19.880 --> 0:15:23.840 pandemic because our numbers were really high. And seeing children 0:15:24.160 --> 0:15:26.280 with getting outside. 0:15:26.600 --> 0:15:28.880 Yeah, we see that, we see on social media. You 0:15:29.080 --> 0:15:31.200 get out, love it. 0:15:32.520 --> 0:15:35.680 Come up with things that just give you that breather, 0:15:36.040 --> 0:15:40.280 put our phone down, connect with people, connect with the earth. 0:15:40.920 --> 0:15:43.120 To me, those are just things that have helped me 0:15:43.920 --> 0:15:49.240 and also so important. Learning to say no boundaries are 0:15:49.360 --> 0:15:51.680 so important because. 0:15:51.520 --> 0:15:54.640 One more time, say it loud, say it one more time. 0:15:56.160 --> 0:16:00.360 Learning to say no. Boundaries are so important. And I 0:16:00.480 --> 0:16:03.640 do lots of reading. I follow lots of social media, 0:16:04.520 --> 0:16:06.680 you know groups where they talk about this and it's 0:16:06.800 --> 0:16:10.080 my no does not mean I don't want to do this. 0:16:10.280 --> 0:16:12.920 It might mean that I need space to hike or 0:16:12.960 --> 0:16:17.600 to sleep. Getting enough sleep is important and just being 0:16:17.680 --> 0:16:22.360 aware of like your body. I'm not saying these cases, 0:16:22.560 --> 0:16:26.520 whether it's an interview or it's a true crime case 0:16:26.560 --> 0:16:29.840 that I'm researching. They don't stay with me, But I 0:16:29.960 --> 0:16:33.240 try to find ways to compartmentalize as much as I can, 0:16:33.440 --> 0:16:36.480 and remember, I can only do what I can do, 0:16:37.040 --> 0:16:39.960 and the most important thing for me to do is 0:16:40.000 --> 0:16:42.960 to be kind to the people that I come across, 0:16:43.080 --> 0:16:46.840 to have empathy for them, and to know too that 0:16:47.160 --> 0:16:48.360 you know, it's not left in me. 0:16:48.640 --> 0:16:50.280 To solve or fix their problem. 0:16:50.840 --> 0:16:53.960 It's really giving them the voice to tell their story 0:16:54.240 --> 0:16:57.360 and maybe some resources after. 0:16:57.440 --> 0:16:58.240 That's important to me. 0:16:58.280 --> 0:17:01.360 You guys, know, y resource resources are everything? 0:17:01.640 --> 0:17:01.880 You know? 0:17:02.000 --> 0:17:05.800 Paying it forward right is so important. 0:17:06.480 --> 0:17:09.919 Yeah, Like I won't watch you know, Monitor Spu as 0:17:10.000 --> 0:17:12.720 much as I love Marisco Hargetay, but I, you know, 0:17:12.880 --> 0:17:16.479 will go and watch a Marvel movie. I mean, Hello 0:17:16.480 --> 0:17:19.520 Wakanda Forever, although that wasn't as light hearted it was. 0:17:19.920 --> 0:17:24.240 No, let's jump ahead a little bit. Can you tell 0:17:24.359 --> 0:17:28.440 us any of the new projects that you're working on? 0:17:29.040 --> 0:17:29.800 What are you allowed? 0:17:30.000 --> 0:17:34.160 What are you all to say? But we can yeah, 0:17:34.640 --> 0:17:37.240 if you can, If you can't, we understand. 0:17:38.600 --> 0:17:38.679 No. 0:17:38.960 --> 0:17:41.960 So I am like a bit of too tenderfoot cheerleader 0:17:42.000 --> 0:17:45.560 since day one. So every project my team works on 0:17:45.720 --> 0:17:46.200 I'm just. 0:17:46.200 --> 0:17:47.760 Like, yes, it's so great. 0:17:47.800 --> 0:17:50.879 I'm so proud of everyone because Tenderfoot's a small but 0:17:50.960 --> 0:17:53.040 mighty team and we do divide and conquer. We all 0:17:53.080 --> 0:17:55.320 work on different things, but I am working on a 0:17:55.359 --> 0:17:58.399 project right now that's very close to my heart. This 0:17:58.560 --> 0:18:01.679 is about a case of it. At least six young 0:18:02.040 --> 0:18:06.680 black girls and women who were sexually assaulted, murdered, and 0:18:06.760 --> 0:18:10.719 left alongside freeways in DC in nineteen between nineteen seventy 0:18:10.720 --> 0:18:15.159 one and nineteen seventy two. What makes me passionate about this? 0:18:15.480 --> 0:18:19.440 These victims and their families have not had a voice 0:18:19.480 --> 0:18:24.000 for so long, and there were things that happened during 0:18:24.000 --> 0:18:28.960 the investigation that left them feeling very unheard. And this 0:18:29.080 --> 0:18:32.600 case is still unsolved. And we talk about trauma, it's 0:18:32.640 --> 0:18:36.120 important to remember it doesn't matter if it happened five 0:18:36.240 --> 0:18:37.840 days ago or fifty. 0:18:37.640 --> 0:18:38.320 Year years ago. 0:18:39.000 --> 0:18:40.000 Trauma is trauma. 0:18:40.600 --> 0:18:41.680 Yes, and these. 0:18:41.480 --> 0:18:47.359 Family members wanted to share their story. It's you know, 0:18:47.400 --> 0:18:49.879 one family member said to me, can someone just say 0:18:49.960 --> 0:18:55.280 my sister's name correctly? All fifty years and the few 0:18:55.840 --> 0:18:58.280 shows that have come out or the few times the 0:18:58.359 --> 0:19:02.199 cases have been investigated, the names weren't pronounced right. I mean, 0:19:02.240 --> 0:19:06.680 your name is so important to who you are, and 0:19:06.800 --> 0:19:09.640 so this project is close to my heart. And it's 0:19:09.680 --> 0:19:12.200 one of those things too where I've was able to 0:19:12.240 --> 0:19:15.920 connect with the detective. We don't say ages because for women, 0:19:16.040 --> 0:19:18.400 but she has Trace has been close to her heart 0:19:18.520 --> 0:19:23.320 for fifty years and she's a mature woman and she 0:19:23.440 --> 0:19:26.000 says in her lifetime she would love to see these 0:19:26.080 --> 0:19:29.719 cases get more attention and these families have the opportunity 0:19:29.720 --> 0:19:33.879 to share their story. And that's the project that is 0:19:34.000 --> 0:19:37.600 really close to my heart right now, and I hope 0:19:37.600 --> 0:19:39.840 that it reaches the people that. 0:19:40.080 --> 0:19:41.000 You know it should reach. 0:19:41.160 --> 0:19:44.199 Someone might know something that they don't even know they know, 0:19:44.560 --> 0:19:48.199 right that could give these families a little bit of 0:19:48.560 --> 0:19:50.760 more closure, you know, because closure looks. 0:19:50.520 --> 0:19:51.480 Different for everyone. 0:19:51.600 --> 0:19:53.600 So that's what I'm working on that I have a 0:19:53.600 --> 0:19:56.000 few others I can't talk about, but all of our 0:19:56.040 --> 0:19:59.119 projects to me, are equally important. And we realize a 0:19:59.160 --> 0:20:01.080 lot of things of change, but a lot of things 0:20:01.080 --> 0:20:04.640 have stayed the same, and that not all victims get 0:20:04.720 --> 0:20:09.879 equal media coverage, equal platform to tell their stories. And 0:20:09.880 --> 0:20:12.399 I'd like to think that at Tenderfoot, we are trying to, 0:20:13.119 --> 0:20:16.320 you know, reduce that barrier for people. 0:20:35.920 --> 0:20:38.520 One thing I really want to talk about, Jamie, And 0:20:39.720 --> 0:20:42.320 first of all, everyone out there needs to know how 0:20:42.480 --> 0:20:47.440 passionate you are about your beautiful family. Beautiful I mean 0:20:47.560 --> 0:20:53.040 beautiful from your beautiful grandma, great, I mean all the 0:20:53.040 --> 0:20:57.560 way to your youngest daughter, like it radiates through you 0:20:57.680 --> 0:21:01.639 and the entire you know, Ohanna, that you have. But 0:21:01.920 --> 0:21:05.080 I know something that really I mean I think if 0:21:05.119 --> 0:21:09.919 you please remind me if I'm misquoting here, but you 0:21:10.240 --> 0:21:15.919 discovered that your son Joshua was going through some major 0:21:16.040 --> 0:21:18.040 health problems and you have been. 0:21:18.080 --> 0:21:22.760 Such a huge advocate for and I want to get 0:21:22.760 --> 0:21:23.120 this right. 0:21:23.240 --> 0:21:23.480 Is it? 0:21:24.440 --> 0:21:26.360 I want to say, I'm like, how do you even 0:21:26.359 --> 0:21:26.800 pronounce it? 0:21:26.840 --> 0:21:27.040 Is it? 0:21:27.119 --> 0:21:30.119 Nef Care Kidney International? Okay. 0:21:30.240 --> 0:21:32.840 I would love to know more about the work that 0:21:32.880 --> 0:21:36.720 you are doing and what you and Joshua are doing together, 0:21:37.119 --> 0:21:41.920 and please tell our listeners what FSGS is and how 0:21:42.560 --> 0:21:44.439 you can educate others on this. 0:21:44.560 --> 0:21:46.000 It's a disease, right. 0:21:46.520 --> 0:21:49.720 Yes, yes, thanks for bringing that up. So this would 0:21:49.720 --> 0:21:51.840 be one of those things where I talk about, you know, 0:21:52.280 --> 0:21:54.400 what does it look like? You know for self care? 0:21:54.920 --> 0:21:56.800 You know, you e my kids go to the doctor 0:21:56.800 --> 0:21:59.240 every year, they have physicals, I'm obsessive. 0:21:59.320 --> 0:22:02.000 Get your physical, your teeth clean, do all of these things. 0:22:02.680 --> 0:22:06.720 And my son, Joshua, was senior year of high school, 0:22:06.800 --> 0:22:09.560 doing really great in the gym three times a week, 0:22:09.760 --> 0:22:13.720