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Speaker 2: Hi, everyone, welcome back to Facing Evil from Tenderfoot TV
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Speaker 3: We are your host.
Speaker 4: I'm vet gin Lay and I am Roscha Piccquerero, and
Speaker 4: today is a very special episode. Our dear friend, our beautiful, amazing,
Speaker 4: talented badass, Jamie Albright is here with us today and
Speaker 4: she's not only a dear friend of yvet Nay, but
Speaker 4: she is our Tenderfoot TV. Ohana and Jamie, I am
Speaker 4: so honored that you are here today, and I know
Speaker 4: all of us at Facing Evil are as well, but
Speaker 4: I want to introduce you properly to our listeners at
Speaker 4: Facing Evil. So not only did Jamie get a Bachelor
Speaker 4: of Sociology from Kenesaw State University in twenty thirteen, she
Speaker 4: also completed her forensic interview training in twenty fourteen. She
Speaker 4: has a master's of Social Work from Valdosta State University,
Speaker 4: which that was in twenty eighteen. And she is a
Speaker 4: producer on some of the best podcasts that are out there,
Speaker 4: just to name a few, some of our personal faves,
Speaker 4: MLK tapes, Kim Kardashian's The System and of course Gaining Ground,
Speaker 4: Algorithm Sworn, all the things. And on top of that,
Speaker 4: she's a mother of six children and she started having
Speaker 4: babies when she was five, and.
Speaker 5: She does not look old enough, not at all, not
Speaker 5: at all.
Speaker 4: So I know it's so much, but I know you
Speaker 4: need to know who Jamie Albright is.
Speaker 5: Jamie Ekomo may welcome to facing you all.
Speaker 6: Thank you so much Russia any of that, and thank
Speaker 6: you for that very lovely introduction to everyone. I'm really
Speaker 6: happy to be here. I love the work that you do,
Speaker 6: and as I've told you both, I loved your podcasts
Speaker 6: before I ever met you and had the opportunity to
Speaker 6: work with you at Tenderfoot, so I'm excited to be here.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Jamie, We're just so thrilled to have
Speaker 2: you here. You know, I have so many questions that
Speaker 2: I want to ask you, but the first question that
Speaker 2: I want to start with, especially you know, Russia and
Speaker 2: I working on facing evil and dealing with so many
Speaker 2: of these horrific cases. And you know, when I think
Speaker 2: about you, I think about different cases like Angela Simoda,
Speaker 2: and I think about one of her best friends who
Speaker 2: was so changed because of that event that happened in
Speaker 2: her life that she then became a private investigator because
Speaker 2: of you know, that that thing that changed.
Speaker 3: Her whole life. How did you get into this industry?
Speaker 2: Did something you know, happen when you were younger and
Speaker 2: it made you want to get into this particular field.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so nothing happened to me like that specifically put
Speaker 6: me into this field. But I've always just wanted to advocate.
Speaker 6: I mean, it's kind of a funny story. My dad
Speaker 6: loves to say, like you were born rescuing kittens from
Speaker 6: a gutter, and you know, you're always finding something that
Speaker 6: was an important cause to you. And I think that,
Speaker 6: you know, when I became a mom, my children's safety
Speaker 6: was something that was really important to me. I will say,
Speaker 6: I come from the generation where you know, you hug
Speaker 6: every uncle and you don't say you don't want to
Speaker 6: hug that person. And there were times when I wanted
Speaker 6: to have a voice, and it was kind of just
Speaker 6: not acceptable at that time. So one thing with my
Speaker 6: children I always did before I even worked in this
Speaker 6: field was if you don't want to hug someone, you know,
Speaker 6: it's your body, your choice. If you don't want to
Speaker 6: sit on someone's it's your body, your choice. That was
Speaker 6: always really important to me. And then when I started
Speaker 6: deciding what I wanted to do when I went back
Speaker 6: to school, It's kind of a silly story, but I
Speaker 6: became obsessed with the TV show Special Victims.
Speaker 7: Unit, Oh Yes, yes, and I just thought, oh my gosh,
Speaker 7: a lot of those shows are based on things that
Speaker 7: have happened, and I really thought, I just cannot believe
Speaker 7: that we live in a world where there are so
Speaker 7: many children who face trauma and even you know, women
Speaker 7: and men as well.
Speaker 6: But for me, the children's stories really just impacted me.
Speaker 6: And I should say, anyone who works in the field says,
Speaker 6: never say that, because people will go, oh my gosh,
Speaker 6: nothing we do.
Speaker 8: Is like that. It's very different.
Speaker 6: But I will say I work alongside people who are
Speaker 6: superstars in this forensic interview world, detectives that really care
Speaker 6: about the work that they do. And that's why, even
Speaker 6: though I produce podcasts. I still keep myself in that
Speaker 6: forensic interview world because I'm passionate about it.
Speaker 2: Right, I guess another question that I have for you is,
Speaker 2: in the industry that you're in, are there a lot
Speaker 2: of women that are forensic interviewers? And if so, let
Speaker 2: us know and also let us know, like for people
Speaker 2: that are interested in getting into the field, like how
Speaker 2: would they go about, you know, becoming a forensic interviewer.
Speaker 6: Sure so, Actually, yes, the field is predominantly women. I
Speaker 6: say girl power all the time. As a matter of yes,
Speaker 6: at the center that I still conduct interviews at, we
Speaker 6: have a female attorney, we have a female director. I
Speaker 6: mean it's just you do see a lot more women
Speaker 6: in the field of forensic interviewing. And I will say
Speaker 6: it would be nice to see Mormon. We did have
Speaker 6: a male interviewer, and it was nice because there were
Speaker 6: times when a young boy may want to connect with
Speaker 6: a male interviewer. You just don't ever know. So having
Speaker 6: the diversity in the field is really important. If someone
Speaker 6: wants to get in the field, I would say to
Speaker 6: do your research and find out what exactly you want
Speaker 6: to do, because being a forensic interviewer is not the
Speaker 6: same as being a police officer or a detective. It's
Speaker 6: very different. A forensic interview is conducted at a child
Speaker 6: advocacy center in a safe environment where that child is
Speaker 6: you know, can disclose, and we partner with law enforcement
Speaker 6: to provide this piece of the criminal investigation, which is
Speaker 6: that interview. For me, I stayed home with my children,
Speaker 6: and then my last year of my bachelor's program, I
Speaker 6: did an internship at a very amazing police department in
Speaker 6: our area and met this inner viewer who an advocate,
Speaker 6: who told me it's a tough field to get into.
Speaker 6: So I started volunteering as what's called a sexual assault
Speaker 6: response team coordinator, and I would come out all hours
Speaker 6: of the night and coordinate a response team if there
Speaker 6: was a victim of alleged a sexual assault. And that
Speaker 6: just kind of helped me learn the field. And then
Speaker 6: I kept going to my schooling and I found an
Speaker 6: opportunity to attend forensic interview training, which is a week
Speaker 6: long alongside detectives and other people in the field. And
Speaker 6: I actually did that myself. I didn't have a job.
Speaker 6: A company put me through that, and I just kept
Speaker 6: working towards the goal that I had, and once I
Speaker 6: had that opportunity to interview at the same center where
Speaker 6: I was a start coordinator and an advocate, it was
Speaker 6: it was great. And when I say great, I mean
Speaker 6: that I was able to do what I knew I
Speaker 6: wanted to do to be part of that field.
Speaker 8: But it is a tough field to work in.
Speaker 2: It makes sense that there's so many women, predominantly women, right,
Speaker 2: because women have so much empathy and so much heart,
Speaker 2: and so much patience, you know, and kindness, So that
Speaker 2: makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 4: I do want to say, like Jamie, we're so fortunate,
Speaker 4: of course to know your story because we've fallen in
Speaker 4: love with you over the past, you know, two years,
Speaker 4: because you know, even though Facing Evil debuted, you know,
Speaker 4: in twenty twenty two, we've been working on it since
Speaker 4: twenty twenty and I have to share this story with you.
Speaker 4: I think we've shared a little bit with you before,
Speaker 4: but not in depth. When we had our very first
Speaker 4: meeting with your amazing brother, Donald Albright, you know, co
Speaker 4: creator and you know CEO of Tenderfoot TV alongside Payne Lindsay.
Speaker 4: What attracted Evet and I so much to Tenderfoot TV
Speaker 4: was the way that he lifted up his entire team
Speaker 4: and most especially you, Jamie, Like he was like, I
Speaker 4: work with my sister, and trust me, it's not just
Speaker 4: because she's my sister. This amazing, brilliant, amazing human who
Speaker 4: is making huge difference in so many lives. With all
Speaker 4: of that being said, I would love to know because
Speaker 4: we get asked this question all the time, like what
Speaker 4: is it like working with your siblings and what brought
Speaker 4: you to Tenderfoot, Like what was that conversation? Like like
Speaker 4: how did you go from you know, being a forensic
Speaker 4: interviewer and you know, working at that incredible center to
Speaker 4: still doing that and also joining the Tenderfoot t V.
Speaker 3: Johanna.
Speaker 6: Yes, well, first, I love that that my brother was
Speaker 6: so sweet about me, because you know, your siblings don't
Speaker 6: always tell.
Speaker 9: You that, like to you right right.
Speaker 8: But Donald and I've always been closed.
Speaker 6: We're only fifteen months apart, and when he I kind
Speaker 6: of have a funny story. He was in the music
Speaker 6: industry before and I was iving to grad school listening
Speaker 6: to podcasts and he called me and said he was,
Speaker 6: you know, do you listen to podcasts? And I was
Speaker 6: like yeah, And he said, Okay, I think I'm going
Speaker 6: to start a podcast company.
Speaker 5: I was like, what, I was like.
Speaker 9: So sry.
Speaker 6: I was really concerned because I'm like, I don't know
Speaker 6: if people make money doing this.
Speaker 8: I don't know what's happening.
Speaker 6: But I remember even saying, well, I know people that
Speaker 6: maybe you can talk to, because I wanted to support
Speaker 6: him as much as I could. And you know, I
Speaker 6: was amazing to watch Up and Vanished take off, you know,
Speaker 6: he and painted such great work on Up and Vanish.
Speaker 6: And then what a lot of people don't know is
Speaker 6: while I've been working for Tenderfoot officially for a few years,
Speaker 6: when Atlanta child Murders came out, he reached out to
Speaker 6: me and said.
Speaker 8: Hey, can you read these? Can you look at this?
Speaker 6: Because of my background as a social work have a
Speaker 6: master's in social work and trauma, you know, just being
Speaker 6: trauma informed, and so I love that, you know, he
Speaker 6: reached out to me because we want our shows to
Speaker 6: be sensitive to the fact that the people who were
Speaker 6: speaking to have experienced trauma, and we don't want to
Speaker 6: sensationalize their stories. You want to tell them in a
Speaker 6: respectful manner. And that's one thing I've always loved about
Speaker 6: the work.
Speaker 8: That we do.
Speaker 6: Hear at Tenderfoot, and so you know, it's interesting because
Speaker 6: he'll say to me sometimes, so are you are you
Speaker 6: ever going to come like officially full time and not
Speaker 6: forensic interview, And I'll talk about it and then he'll go,
Speaker 6: you know what your heart is? In both places, those
Speaker 6: I feel very blessed and I'm able to continue doing both.
Speaker 6: So anyway, I worked a little bit on at landa Monster,
Speaker 6: kind of in the research and looking up family members
Speaker 6: and kind of talking about the trauma piece. And then
Speaker 6: each time there was a project, if he had the
Speaker 6: opportunity to loot me in kind of just to see
Speaker 6: what my thoughts were, then I would help with that.
Speaker 6: And so once I finally officially thought okay, yes I'm ready,
Speaker 6: I want to do this work, I'm just thrilled to
Speaker 6: do it. At Tenderfoot, I love working with my brother.
Speaker 6: We get along very well. I get no special treatment.
Speaker 8: I do want to say that because.
Speaker 6: It makes me actually want to work harder, because I
Speaker 6: want us to have a good show and a good
Speaker 6: product that I always want us to be aware of
Speaker 6: the stories we're telling. So you know that's kind of
Speaker 6: my story, and I really I feel blessed every day
Speaker 6: to do things that I love so much.
Speaker 2: It doesn't feel like work. I do have another question
Speaker 2: for you. You know, we talk about these cases again.
Speaker 2: You know they're heavy, and especially what you do, Jamie,
Speaker 2: how do you decompress because you are such a bright light,
Speaker 2: Like your spirit is always so positive, your attitude is
Speaker 2: always positive. How do you stay like that? First of all,
Speaker 2: what do you do to decompress from these cases? You know,
Speaker 2: to take care of yourself, to give yourself that self love?
Speaker 8: Yeah, well, thank you.
Speaker 6: First of all, I feel that way about you guys,
Speaker 6: Like I just love whether we're exchanging text messages or
Speaker 6: quick you know, social media, Like I just love that.
Speaker 8: Like I feel that from you.
Speaker 6: Guys just radiate this positive energy, and I think that
Speaker 6: that's so important. Burnout is high for people who work
Speaker 6: in these types of fields, and I see that on
Speaker 6: the law enforcement side, a lot of our detectives or
Speaker 6: time there is getting less and less. And that's just
Speaker 6: not in Georgia, that's nationwide Special Victims Unit. They work
Speaker 6: with really tough cases. And in the field of social
Speaker 6: work it's very high as well. So I have always
Speaker 6: only interviewed part time, and that is very intentional for me.
Speaker 6: Even before I worked at Tenderfoot, I did some curriculum
Speaker 6: writing and some other things at schools that really warmed
Speaker 6: my heart because I remember saying I get to see
Speaker 6: happy children at the school.
Speaker 8: It just was that balance for me.
Speaker 6: I think it's important to make sure that we practice
Speaker 6: self care, and that's a word we hear a lot.
Speaker 6: But what that means is whatever brings you to a
Speaker 6: place of peace. You can feel trauma in your body.
Speaker 8: And there's secondary.
Speaker 6: Trauma where I hear this story and it's I can
Speaker 6: feel my heart race and I'm really like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 6: this was tough to hear, and I'm processing it and honestly,
Speaker 6: with forensic interviewing, I'm visualizing it because I'm trying to
Speaker 6: see what they experienced. And then there's the long term
Speaker 6: VI carryus trauma where I'm now viewing the entire world
Speaker 6: like that person, that person, that person, they could all
Speaker 6: be child molesters. And I do not want to view
Speaker 6: the world that way. I want to view the world
Speaker 6: with open eyes and I don't want to let the
Speaker 6: things I hear change my image. And so for me,
Speaker 6: I have a very supportive husband and he is not
Speaker 6: afraid to tell me why are you looking at that?
Speaker 8: Before you go to pass y.
Speaker 6: I mentioned that I loved to watch you know, True
Speaker 6: crime constantly before I worked in it.
Speaker 8: I don't do that as much anymore. Right, you might
Speaker 8: watch something.
Speaker 6: That's lighthearted because I listened to so much of it,
Speaker 6: you know, for work and things that I try to
Speaker 6: do more lighthearted things. I fell in love during the
Speaker 6: pandemic because our numbers were really high. And seeing children
Speaker 6: with getting outside.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we see that, we see on social media. You
Speaker 5: get out, love it.
Speaker 6: Come up with things that just give you that breather,
Speaker 6: put our phone down, connect with people, connect with the earth.
Speaker 6: To me, those are just things that have helped me
Speaker 6: and also so important. Learning to say no boundaries are
Speaker 6: so important because.
Speaker 9: One more time, say it loud, say it one more time.
Speaker 6: Learning to say no. Boundaries are so important. And I
Speaker 6: do lots of reading. I follow lots of social media,
Speaker 6: you know groups where they talk about this and it's
Speaker 6: my no does not mean I don't want to do this.
Speaker 6: It might mean that I need space to hike or
Speaker 6: to sleep. Getting enough sleep is important and just being
Speaker 6: aware of like your body. I'm not saying these cases,
Speaker 6: whether it's an interview or it's a true crime case
Speaker 6: that I'm researching. They don't stay with me, But I
Speaker 6: try to find ways to compartmentalize as much as I can,
Speaker 6: and remember, I can only do what I can do,
Speaker 6: and the most important thing for me to do is
Speaker 6: to be kind to the people that I come across,
Speaker 6: to have empathy for them, and to know too that
Speaker 6: you know, it's not left in me.
Speaker 8: To solve or fix their problem.
Speaker 6: It's really giving them the voice to tell their story
Speaker 6: and maybe some resources after.
Speaker 8: That's important to me.
Speaker 9: You guys, know, y resource resources are everything?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 2: Paying it forward right is so important.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like I won't watch you know, Monitor Spu as
Speaker 4: much as I love Marisco Hargetay, but I, you know,
Speaker 4: will go and watch a Marvel movie. I mean, Hello
Speaker 4: Wakanda Forever, although that wasn't as light hearted it was.
Speaker 9: No, let's jump ahead a little bit. Can you tell
Speaker 9: us any of the new projects that you're working on?
Speaker 5: What are you allowed?
Speaker 9: What are you all to say? But we can yeah,
Speaker 9: if you can, If you can't, we understand.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 6: So I am like a bit of too tenderfoot cheerleader
Speaker 6: since day one. So every project my team works on
Speaker 6: I'm just.
Speaker 8: Like, yes, it's so great.
Speaker 6: I'm so proud of everyone because Tenderfoot's a small but
Speaker 6: mighty team and we do divide and conquer. We all
Speaker 6: work on different things, but I am working on a
Speaker 6: project right now that's very close to my heart. This
Speaker 6: is about a case of it. At least six young
Speaker 6: black girls and women who were sexually assaulted, murdered, and
Speaker 6: left alongside freeways in DC in nineteen between nineteen seventy
Speaker 6: one and nineteen seventy two. What makes me passionate about this?
Speaker 6: These victims and their families have not had a voice
Speaker 6: for so long, and there were things that happened during
Speaker 6: the investigation that left them feeling very unheard. And this
Speaker 6: case is still unsolved. And we talk about trauma, it's
Speaker 6: important to remember it doesn't matter if it happened five
Speaker 6: days ago or fifty.
Speaker 8: Year years ago.
Speaker 5: Trauma is trauma.
Speaker 8: Yes, and these.
Speaker 6: Family members wanted to share their story. It's you know,
Speaker 6: one family member said to me, can someone just say
Speaker 6: my sister's name correctly? All fifty years and the few
Speaker 6: shows that have come out or the few times the
Speaker 6: cases have been investigated, the names weren't pronounced right. I mean,
Speaker 6: your name is so important to who you are, and
Speaker 6: so this project is close to my heart. And it's
Speaker 6: one of those things too where I've was able to
Speaker 6: connect with the detective. We don't say ages because for women,
Speaker 6: but she has Trace has been close to her heart
Speaker 6: for fifty years and she's a mature woman and she
Speaker 6: says in her lifetime she would love to see these
Speaker 6: cases get more attention and these families have the opportunity
Speaker 6: to share their story. And that's the project that is
Speaker 6: really close to my heart right now, and I hope
Speaker 6: that it reaches the people that.
Speaker 8: You know it should reach.
Speaker 6: Someone might know something that they don't even know they know,
Speaker 6: right that could give these families a little bit of
Speaker 6: more closure, you know, because closure looks.
Speaker 8: Different for everyone.
Speaker 6: So that's what I'm working on that I have a
Speaker 6: few others I can't talk about, but all of our
Speaker 6: projects to me, are equally important. And we realize a
Speaker 6: lot of things of change, but a lot of things
Speaker 6: have stayed the same, and that not all victims get
Speaker 6: equal media coverage, equal platform to tell their stories. And
Speaker 6: I'd like to think that at Tenderfoot, we are trying to,
Speaker 6: you know, reduce that barrier for people.
Speaker 4: One thing I really want to talk about, Jamie, And
Speaker 4: first of all, everyone out there needs to know how
Speaker 4: passionate you are about your beautiful family. Beautiful I mean
Speaker 4: beautiful from your beautiful grandma, great, I mean all the
Speaker 4: way to your youngest daughter, like it radiates through you
Speaker 4: and the entire you know, Ohanna, that you have. But
Speaker 4: I know something that really I mean I think if
Speaker 4: you please remind me if I'm misquoting here, but you
Speaker 4: discovered that your son Joshua was going through some major
Speaker 4: health problems and you have been.
Speaker 5: Such a huge advocate for and I want to get
Speaker 5: this right.
Speaker 9: Is it?
Speaker 5: I want to say, I'm like, how do you even
Speaker 5: pronounce it?
Speaker 8: Is it?
Speaker 5: Nef Care Kidney International? Okay.
Speaker 4: I would love to know more about the work that
Speaker 4: you are doing and what you and Joshua are doing together,
Speaker 4: and please tell our listeners what FSGS is and how
Speaker 4: you can educate others on this.
Speaker 5: It's a disease, right.
Speaker 6: Yes, yes, thanks for bringing that up. So this would
Speaker 6: be one of those things where I talk about, you know,
Speaker 6: what does it look like? You know for self care?
Speaker 6: You know, you e my kids go to the doctor
Speaker 6: every year, they have physicals, I'm obsessive.
Speaker 8: Get your physical, your teeth clean, do all of these things.
Speaker 6: And my son, Joshua, was senior year of high school,
Speaker 6: doing really great in the gym three times a week,
Speaker 6: I mean looking great. And my lovely sister donated a
Speaker 6: kidney to a family friend on her husband's side and
Speaker 6: then through a kidney exchange, and we were joking about it, like, oh,
Speaker 6: you know what, we need that kidney. Everyone needs two kidneys.
Speaker 6: Don't give it up as a joke, you know, and
Speaker 6: not joking of anyone. The kidneyssease which try to keep
Speaker 6: it quiet harder because what she was doing was very serious,
Speaker 6: you know. So we go over to see my sister
Speaker 6: and at the last minute, Joshua, who's my Joshi, I
Speaker 6: call him Joshi. He came with us and at that
Speaker 6: visit with my sister and brother in law, my brother
Speaker 6: in law called me over and was playing with the
Speaker 6: blood pressure machine and said Joshi's blood pressure was too high.
Speaker 6: We went from a medical visit the next day to
Speaker 6: within six weeks ultrasound biopsy being told that my son
Speaker 6: was in stage two kidney failure. And it was shocking,
Speaker 6: absolutely shocking. At first, he didn't want to tell anyone.
Speaker 6: And again, I'm kind of a born advocate, so it
Speaker 6: was hard for me at first, but I wanted to
Speaker 6: respect his wishes, right, And then I was that mom
Speaker 6: at night at two am, trying to like find support
Speaker 6: groups because I was crying all the time. I mean,
Speaker 6: I keep bubbly and lighthearted, but like, oh, and it's
Speaker 6: your baby, it's just in your heart.
Speaker 5: Yes, yeah.
Speaker 6: And I met this amazing lady named Kelly Helm who
Speaker 6: also has a daughter with kidney disease and FSGS, and
Speaker 6: she said, to me, join these groups like neft cure
Speaker 6: can help you. So what FSGS is the best way
Speaker 6: to describe it is, it causes kidney.
Speaker 8: Failure, kidney disease.
Speaker 6: It's almost like it's attacking your kidney's attacking itself. And
Speaker 6: my son had genetic testing. It is a genetic condition,
Speaker 6: and so we don't have a long history of canney.
Speaker 6: He's on my side. My husband did know that his
Speaker 6: grandmother had kidney disease, but just like digging through that
Speaker 6: family history, and so I want everyone to know my
Speaker 6: son's type of FSGS is caused by a specific gene
Speaker 6: in the black community. He has a po l one
Speaker 6: facilitated FSGS, but anyone can get different types. It's an
Speaker 6: aggressive form of kidney disease. Most people never have symptoms.
Speaker 6: We are very blessed that Joshua's was caught early and
Speaker 6: again though kind of like Ve mentioned earlier connections, Joshua
Speaker 6: was having his biopsy and the doctor's last name rang
Speaker 6: a bell to me. Come to find out his wife
Speaker 6: conducts trainings I attend as a forensic interviewer.
Speaker 8: I don't think that's coincidence.
Speaker 6: Just these little connections that kept me just for me
Speaker 6: remembering that we were not alone on this walk. You know,
Speaker 6: I believe in a higher power. I believe that we
Speaker 6: were not alone. Spirituality to me is really important. Yes,
Speaker 6: we ended up on this fast track to like Joshua
Speaker 6: being a voice for research studies and traveling, and we've
Speaker 6: met amazing people you mentioned earlier. You know how I
Speaker 6: stay positive. I believe in surrounding yourself with people who
Speaker 6: are like minded, who are passionate, who are kind like
Speaker 6: you guys, and who have prayed for my son, or
Speaker 6: if they don't pray, they've sent positive quotes or positive
Speaker 6: energy all the way. All the good you do, right,
Speaker 6: And so it's been a journey I had a friend.
Speaker 6: I have a really good friend who's at therapist and
Speaker 6: one day she said to me, but have you stopped
Speaker 6: to process? And I cried at lunch and I said, well,
Speaker 6: let me cry a little bit.
Speaker 8: It is a lot.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but also having that those friends in your circle
Speaker 6: that are like holding you accountable to self care.
Speaker 8: Yes, to feeling the feelings that.
Speaker 6: You need to feel to still be a really strong advocate.
Speaker 6: So nef Cure provides patient and family advocacy as well
Speaker 6: as funding for research for people who have rare kidney disease.
Speaker 6: Joshua is in a study and he's feeling wonderful. It's
Speaker 6: a blind study, so we don't know everything, but he
Speaker 6: feels great.
Speaker 3: That's fantastic.
Speaker 6: And he's nineteen and he's really my hero. He's just
Speaker 6: kept such a positive attitude. And again, my husband is
Speaker 6: like the stoic one. We're going to get through this.
Speaker 6: And when I get too crazy on the advocacy train,
Speaker 6: he's like, er, let's go on a high.
Speaker 2: It's that balance, right, that balance, Yeah, it's that balance.
Speaker 8: And you mentioned o'hannah. I love that. When I met you.
Speaker 6: Guys, we have an amazing family, whether it's my brother saying, hey,
Speaker 6: my agent has connection to the kidney world.
Speaker 8: Hey, he'll be at.
Speaker 6: Dinner and he'll tell someone about Joshua's story, right, or
Speaker 6: whatever we can do to let people know about this illness.
Speaker 8: The screening is so simple.
Speaker 6: When your child goes for a file like an eight
Speaker 6: to ten dollars, your analysis can detect protein in their urine.
Speaker 9: Why can we do this? Yeah?
Speaker 8: And when I say why don't we do this?
Speaker 6: I don't mean people, why doesn't Why isn't this just
Speaker 6: a normal part of it?
Speaker 9: Every year's physical is not right anymore.
Speaker 6: So thank you for mentioning that, and thank you for
Speaker 6: being so supportive when you guys send me you're sweet
Speaker 6: you know, reminders or positive notes or texts. I really
Speaker 6: it really means a lot to me and my family.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, Jamie.
Speaker 2: You know, I know you listen to Facing Evil and
Speaker 2: you know at the end of every episode we always
Speaker 2: end with an emua. Right, how you know people ourselves
Speaker 2: can move onward and upward? What is your emua? What
Speaker 2: is your purpose? You know in your life?
Speaker 3: If you could just share a little bit with us.
Speaker 6: Oh wow, that is a that's a great question. When
Speaker 6: you guys told us you wanted to do this positive.
Speaker 6: At the end, I remember thinking that is awesome. People
Speaker 6: just hear such a heavy story and it gives them
Speaker 6: the opportunity to see hope and light.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I would say for me, I.
Speaker 6: Look at my life as I believe that we are
Speaker 6: all put here for a purpose, and I think that
Speaker 6: my purpose is advocacy, is connecting people, and I want
Speaker 6: to live out that purpose with my life. I want
Speaker 6: to live a life that means something and that touches others.
Speaker 6: It's really important to me, so I hope that I'm
Speaker 6: doing that.
Speaker 3: You are, Jamie.
Speaker 4: You are, and you're inspiring others to do that, and
Speaker 4: you inspired me an evet before we ever got to.
Speaker 5: Hug you and everyone, Jamie gives the best hug.
Speaker 4: I mean I just say that right now, Like you know,
Speaker 4: like when you're like you fall so in love with
Speaker 4: a human and you're like you just want to wrap
Speaker 4: your arms around them, and then like if they give
Speaker 4: you a week hug, you're like, ooh.
Speaker 5: I didn't what's happening.
Speaker 4: No, Jamie is all love and light and a little
Speaker 4: bit of spice, Oh a lot of spice, I shall say, Like,
Speaker 4: oh my god.
Speaker 9: Jamie is the best combination of everything.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, because we know, we know it's not always perfect,
Speaker 4: it's not always sunny, it's not always light and love.
Speaker 4: But if you lead with that, you know, that's that's
Speaker 4: I think that's how we can all make the world
Speaker 4: a better place, right.
Speaker 6: Absolutely, Yeah, that's I think it's it's we're all putt here,
Speaker 6: in my opinion, for a purpose, and it's not about
Speaker 6: to me, money can't buy happiness and peace and love.
Speaker 6: It's about what we do with our time here. And
Speaker 6: I feel very, like I said earlier, very blessed that
Speaker 6: whether I'm at the center, conducting a forensic interview or
Speaker 6: working on a podcast, I feel like what I'm doing
Speaker 6: I hope is you know, it is with all my heart,
Speaker 6: and I hope that it is making that difference.
Speaker 4: So yeah, Jamie, every word that you said today, I
Speaker 4: know has inspired me, has inspired Yvette, and I have
Speaker 4: no doubt will inspire every single Facing Evil listener. Thank
Speaker 4: you Mahalo Nuiloa for being a part of today. Onward
Speaker 4: and Upward, Emma.
Speaker 2: Well that is our show for today. Thank you again,
Speaker 2: Mahalo Nuiloa. Jamie Albright, the one and only. We love
Speaker 2: you so much. Words can't even say how much we do.
Speaker 3: We we just we do.
Speaker 2: As always, we'd love to hear what you guys thought
Speaker 2: about today's discussion and if there is a case that
Speaker 2: you would like us to cover, please let us know.
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Speaker 3: Cherished until next time.
Speaker 8: Aloha.
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