1 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:11,960 Speaker 1: It's that time, time, time, time, luck and load. Michael 2 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: Verie show is on the air. Maybe you can just 3 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: go back, go back. 4 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:20,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, pretend like it never happened. 5 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 3: I mean, just walking to the staff meeting on Monday 6 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:24,759 Speaker 3: morning like it never happened. 7 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 1: Sure, you're an emotional person. People don't take you seriously. 8 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: Just go back. 9 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 2: Then the whole thing never happened. 10 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: Never happened. 11 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 2: I was blown off a little steam. So what so what. 12 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: You're entitled emotional? That's right, you're emotional. 13 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:47,480 Speaker 4: Never happened, Never happened. 14 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 5: Do you think that it's respectful add ons to come 15 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 5: to the Oval Office. 16 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 6: Of the United States of America and attack the administration 17 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 6: that is trying to try to prevent the destruction You're because. 18 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 7: A lot of questions. Let's start from the biginn. Sure, 19 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 7: hoist wall during the war. Everybody has problems, even you. 20 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 7: But you have nice ocean and don't feel now, but 21 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 7: you will feel it in the fusions. 22 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: You don't know that I bless you. I'm blessed. 23 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 8: You'll know your work. Don't tell us what we're going 24 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 8: to feel. We're trying to solve a problem. Don't tell 25 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 8: us what we're going to feel. 26 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 7: I'm not telling you because you're in no position to 27 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 7: dictate that. 28 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 8: You're in no position to dictate what we're going to feel. 29 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 2: We're going to feel very good, feel influenced. 30 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 8: We're gonna feel very good, very strong, will feel the influence. 31 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 2: You're right now not in a very good position. 32 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:40,320 Speaker 3: You've allowed you to be in a very bad position. 33 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 7: That he's able to be right about the very beginning 34 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 7: of the war. 35 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 1: Not in a good position. 36 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 2: You don't have the cards right now with us. 37 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 8: You start having right now, you bread if you're gambling lives, 38 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 8: billions of people see. 39 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 2: You're gambling with world War three. You're gambling with world 40 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 2: War three. You got when the whole no, when the fold, no, 41 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 2: when the wall, know when to run. 42 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: You never count your own money when you're sitting. 43 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 2: At the table. There will be time enough to count 44 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 2: whin the feelings gone. 45 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 8: All I can say is this, you might have broken 46 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 8: deals with Obama and Bush, and he might have broken 47 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 8: in with Biden. 48 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 3: He did it, maybe maybe he did. I don't know 49 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 3: what happened, But he didn't break it with me. He 50 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 3: wants to make a deal. I don't know if you 51 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 3: can make a deal. The problem is I've empowered you 52 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 3: to be a tough guy, and I don't think you'd 53 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 3: be a tough guy without the United States. And your 54 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 3: people are very brave. But you're either going to make 55 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 3: a deal or we're out. And if we're out, you'll 56 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 3: fight it out. I don't think it's going to be pretty, 57 00:02:58,480 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 3: but you'll fight it out. 58 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 8: But you don't have the cards. But once we sign 59 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 8: that deal, you're in a much better position. But you're 60 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 8: not acting at all thankful. And that's not a nice thing. 61 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 8: I'll be honest, that's not a nice thing. 62 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 5: You've got no home, the home, no wind, the full, 63 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 5: no win, the wark. 64 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 9: This idea that Zelensky is ungrateful. He's entitled our money, 65 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 9: there'll be Joe Biden said that as well. 66 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 10: And to deliver much needed humanitarian assistance as well as food, water, medicine, 67 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 10: shelter and other aid to Ukrainians displaced by Russians war, 68 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 10: and provide aid for those seeking refuge in other countries 69 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 10: from Ukraine. It's also going to help schools and hospitals open. 70 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 10: It's going to allow pensions and social support to be 71 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 10: paid to the Ukrainian people so they have something something 72 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:57,839 Speaker 10: in their pocket. It's also going to provide critical resources 73 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 10: to address food shortages around the globe. 74 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 9: Zelensky has declared that the US will have to send 75 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 9: our sons and daughters to fight his war if we 76 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 9: don't give him money. This is Zelenski through an interpreter. 77 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 1: The US will have. 78 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 11: To send their sons and daughters exactly the same way 79 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 11: as we are sending their sons and daughters to war, 80 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 11: and they will have to fight because it's a nature 81 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 11: that we're talking about, and they will be dying. 82 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:34,840 Speaker 9: He also said that if we stop giving him these 83 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 9: hundreds of millions of dollars. By the way, he's also 84 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 9: admitted that over one hundred billion dollars did I say 85 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 9: hundreds of million? If we stop giving him these hundreds 86 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 9: of millions of dollars that he has admitted that over 87 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 9: one hundred billion of it is missing. So then he 88 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 9: goes off and says, if the US stops giving us money, 89 00:04:56,080 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 9: we will demand at least two hundred and fifty billion 90 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:03,039 Speaker 9: dollars from Europe A good money. 91 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 7: Good give us two hundred and fifty two hundred and 92 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 7: fifty billions which are here in Europe frozen Russian asses. 93 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 9: No answer, So let's go back. No, no, no, first, 94 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 9: let's do five oh one. This is President Trump saying 95 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 9: he refuses to bend the knee to this endless war. 96 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 1: He's not gonna do it. 97 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 12: I refuse to bend the knee to their next endless 98 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 12: war in Ukraine. I want peace, they want money, and 99 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:39,720 Speaker 12: they want conflict, even if it means walking us into 100 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:42,559 Speaker 12: the brink of World War three, which frankly it is doing. 101 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 9: Little Fidel Castro, a little Fidel Trudeau. Fidelito says that 102 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 9: his country will continue to send all their money to Ukraine. 103 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 13: We've also invested close to twenty billion dollars in so 104 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 13: reports for Ukraine, military, economic, and other, and we're going 105 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 13: to continue to be there to support Ukraine. 106 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 1: Now, what happened, What really happened? 107 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 9: On Friday, Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent told Margaret Bennin on 108 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:18,720 Speaker 9: Face the Nation that Zelensky came into the office with 109 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 9: a deal, a deal that had been agreed upon, and 110 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 9: he tried to relitigate the deal in front of the 111 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:31,720 Speaker 9: whole world, in front of the cameras. Forty minutes into it, 112 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 9: this this meeting was going well. It wasn't until forty 113 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 9: minutes into it that he started in on JD Vance 114 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 9: and that's. 115 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 1: When all hell broke loose. 116 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 14: Margaret, it is impossible to have an economic deal without 117 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:50,280 Speaker 14: a peace steel. The Santa Kwannon for an economic deal 118 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:54,160 Speaker 14: is that Ukrainian leadership wants. 119 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:57,039 Speaker 1: A peace steel. I thought this is a building block towards. 120 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 14: Getting too well it was supposed to be for Presidents 121 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 14: of Lenz came into the Oval on Friday. There were 122 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 14: three things that are going to be done. There's going 123 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 14: to be a press conference, There's going to be a 124 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 14: private lunch with sixteen of us, and as you could 125 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 14: see from Dan Scavino's the post on his X account, 126 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 14: we were already set up to sign to sign the deal. 127 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: So it's unclear. 128 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 14: Now President Zelensky has thrown off the sequencing. And let 129 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 14: me tell you the most tragic part of this. The 130 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 14: President Trump's idea for this economic arrangement was to further 131 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 14: intertwine the American people and the Ukrainian people and show 132 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 14: no daylight, to show the Russian leadership that there was 133 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 14: no daylight. And President Zelensky came into the Oval office 134 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 14: and tried to relitigate in front of the world the 135 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 14: deal and we were going. The place to have done 136 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 14: it would have been in the private lunch. 137 00:07:54,360 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 9: Zelensky made a huge mistake. Now he's trying to save face. 138 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 9: In fact, now he's trying to say, well, maybe I'll 139 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 9: step down if you'll put Ukraine into NATO. 140 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 1: Now again, as President Trump. 141 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 9: Told you you don't have the cars, you're bluffing. 142 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 15: I really believe that the worst thing that ever happened 143 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 15: to America was slavery the Michael Berry Show, and the 144 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 15: best thing that ever happened to slavery was America and 145 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 15: the Republican Party. 146 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 16: It was sewary twenty eight. It was a Friday. He 147 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 16: strolled into the White House, probably humming, my way. Here 148 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 16: was on the table, here Earth and whatnot? First of 149 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 16: quek chat, then a dinner servant, come quatch. It started great, 150 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,839 Speaker 16: all smile was in cordial, Trump looking trumpy, jd Vance 151 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 16: looking jovial. Then something happened and the tenor switched and 152 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 16: the guests got grumpy, started acting like a bitch, interrupting, 153 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 16: inter intercepting conversation, started showing his colors didn't know who 154 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 16: he was facing like a pee wee playing pos He 155 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 16: was out of his league. It was tag team wrestling. 156 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 16: It was blitz Greek. It was over before it started. 157 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 16: Big ave no corner, Little Lord Fauntleroy, get in your corner, 158 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,679 Speaker 16: the fat lady saying, and the people rejoiced. 159 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 2: Yo Z shut. 160 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 4: It, fab. 161 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 16: You're five foot three stuff. 162 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 2: Christer. 163 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 1: He broken, this is fire. 164 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 7: He killed a lot of people, and he did an exchange. Princess, 165 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 7: we signed the exchange of prisons, but he didn't do it. 166 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 2: What kind of diplomacy g d Us became involved? 167 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: What what do you? 168 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 2: What do you? What do you mean? 169 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 6: I'm talking about the kind of diplomacy that's going to 170 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 6: end the destruction of your country has But if mister President, 171 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 6: mister President, with respect, I think it's disrespectful for you 172 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 6: to come into the Oval Office to try to litigate 173 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 6: this in front of the American media. 174 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 2: Right now, you guys. 175 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 6: Are going around and forcing conscripts to the front lines 176 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 6: because you have Manhower problems. 177 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:50,439 Speaker 4: Get that kid a high chair, the Warhawks. 178 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:53,079 Speaker 3: You have to be thankful you don't have the car. 179 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 3: You're buried there yet you have people that die. 180 00:10:56,720 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 17: Tell you a slow one soldiers, it would be a 181 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 17: damn good nig. 182 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 2: Then you then you tell. 183 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:05,839 Speaker 1: Us I don't want to cease fire. 184 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 2: I don't want to cease fire. I want to go 185 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 2: and I wanted this letter. 186 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:12,719 Speaker 8: If you could get a ceasefire right now, I tell 187 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 8: you you'd take it. So the bullets stopped flying and 188 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:16,680 Speaker 8: your men stopped courting kills. 189 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 2: Both the one just stole the war. 190 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:19,079 Speaker 1: But I'm saying you don't want to see that. 191 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 2: I said to you, I want. 192 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 17: To see guarantee because you get a ceasefire faster than 193 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 17: it is. 194 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:46,320 Speaker 18: From the White House, you want to launch your ball. 195 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 9: Over the weekend in President Trump posted to his truth 196 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 9: social account the following in all caps. 197 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 1: Sorry, what in over the weekend would have been this morning? 198 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 9: He posted? Tomorrow night will be big. I will tell 199 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 9: it like it is. And what tomorrow night is is 200 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 9: that at nine o'clock Eastern, so eight o'clock Central, President 201 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 9: Trump will address a joint Session of Congress. Now that's 202 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 9: not officially a State of the Union, because you do 203 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 9: the State of the Union address in your second, third, 204 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 9: and fourth. 205 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: Years of your presidency. 206 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:35,079 Speaker 9: So when you come in, you have an inaugural address, 207 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 9: and then in the following year and each year thereafter, 208 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:40,319 Speaker 9: you have a State of the Union. 209 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 1: The invitation was extended by Mike. 210 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:51,359 Speaker 9: Johnson, who's the speaker from Republican from Louisiana to address Congress, 211 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:54,439 Speaker 9: and I suspect there will be a lot of talk 212 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 9: about Ukraine, but I think there'll be a lot of 213 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 9: talk about other things as well. Interesting will tidbit if 214 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 9: you like this sort of minutia in trivia. Since nineteen 215 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 9: eighty four, there has always been a member of the 216 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 9: President's cabinet who is named the designated survivor. And the 217 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 9: reason is because you have all three branches of government 218 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 9: under one roof. The Supreme Court will be there, and 219 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 9: so the designated survivor is the person who does not 220 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 9: attend the gathering in case a catastrophe or terrorist attack 221 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 9: should level the top tier of the government, and the 222 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 9: US Senate is the one that keeps the record of 223 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 9: the designated survivor. Going back to nineteen eighty four, and 224 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 9: that year it was HUD Secretary Samuel Pierce Junior, who 225 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 9: Ronald Reagan designated the potential leader of the nation if 226 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:04,439 Speaker 9: President Reagan and everyone else attendance should perish. Other designated 227 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 9: survivors through the years, Andrew Cuomo, who was part of 228 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 9: Bill Clinton's cabinet in nineteen ninety nine. This is before 229 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 9: he was the governor of New York. 230 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: And by the way, Cuomo over the weekend. 231 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 9: I don't know if he actually announced it, or he 232 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 9: hinted that he's going to announce, or maybe he's putting 233 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 9: together a what's the term when you float in the 234 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 9: trial balloon, you're yeah, exploratory committee, which is a nice 235 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 9: way of saying, Hey, if you're for me, come out 236 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 9: and be for me right now, to be the mayor 237 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 9: of New York. As part of his rehabilitation. Bill Day, 238 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 9: former Commerce Secretary, was in nineteen ninety eight under Bill Clinton. 239 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 9: Bill Daily, of course, the son of the famous Chicago 240 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 9: Democrat Party boss, the machine politician, if ever. 241 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: There was one. 242 00:14:54,840 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 9: In two thousand and nine, it was Attorney General Eric Holder, 243 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 9: and the most recent of the designated survivors was Joe 244 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 9: Biden's Education Cabinet Secretary or Education secretary of Miguel Cardona, 245 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 9: probably because someone pulled some fact that that was the 246 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 9: first Hispanic to do that. We always have to have 247 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 9: the first this and the first that. 248 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 1: Whatever. 249 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 9: So oh man, I'm almost out of time, dad gummet, Well, 250 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 9: I want to get to this Zelenski thing. In further detail, 251 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 9: but I did. I did some pretty deep digging on 252 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 9: some things that had been bothering me for a while. 253 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 9: First of all, we have sent it's estimated well over 254 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 9: two hundred million dollars to Ukraine during all of this. 255 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 9: The Ukrainian economy before the war, their economy is in 256 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 9: shambles right now, was two hundred billion dollars. We've sent 257 00:15:56,880 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 9: them more than the entirety of their economy in the year. 258 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 9: We've sent all that in a very brief period of time. 259 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 9: And by the way, that's the size of the Arkansas economy, 260 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 9: So that tolls you. Ukraine is not a major powerhouse. 261 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 9: They are sitting on a lot of important rare earth 262 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 9: minimal minerals, which, by the way, I went digging deep 263 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 9: into rare earth minerals and the value of these things 264 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 9: and what it is and isn't. It's not like gold 265 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 9: you just pull it out. You've got to really work 266 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 9: at this stuff. But it's also the case that a 267 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 9: rare earth mineral is not ramone necessarily rare. They can be, 268 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 9: they can be plentiful. The rare does not refer to 269 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 9: how much of them there are. 270 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 1: The Michael Berry Show, Michael Berry show. Look, I'm not 271 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: an expert. 272 00:16:56,160 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 9: On Russia, and I'm not an expert on the Russia 273 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 9: Ukraine issue. 274 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: I don't claim to be. 275 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 9: But I'm going to tell you something that the longer 276 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 9: you dig into the history behind all of this, you 277 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 9: will find some very interesting and troubling things related to 278 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 9: this conflict, and you will understand that it is not 279 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 9: so simple as Russia bad Ukraine good. 280 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 1: So when in the. 281 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 9: Middle of the war, the wife of Vladimir Zelensky's or 282 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:38,400 Speaker 9: his wife is on the front cover of Vogue magazine, 283 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 9: h interesting. 284 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 1: Have you seen the wife of any. 285 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 9: Other world leader on the front cover of a magazine, 286 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 9: particularly a magazine dedicated to women. You would imagine perhaps 287 00:17:57,000 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 9: that what they're trying to do is sway women's opinions 288 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 9: toward Ukraine. 289 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:09,120 Speaker 1: There's a fellow name, I think it was Balayanis. 290 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 9: I remember Richard Blanis, and he is considered the godfather 291 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 9: or the grandfather of public relations, and he was His 292 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:24,719 Speaker 9: big break was when he was hired by Lucky Strike 293 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 9: to improve their sagging sales. Cigarette says this is one 294 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:34,239 Speaker 9: hundred years ago, and he figured out that if you're 295 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 9: trying to compete with Paul Mall and Marlborough and Cambell 296 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:39,439 Speaker 9: and all these other You're just not going to be 297 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:41,879 Speaker 9: It's too hard to move the needle to get more 298 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 9: people to smoke. So what he did is he decided, 299 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:48,919 Speaker 9: I got to get women smoking these cigarettes. 300 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 1: That's an untapped market. 301 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 9: So what he did is he started a campaign that 302 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 9: women should be able to smoke in public just like men. 303 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 9: They should not be judged for and he made it 304 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 9: a women's lib issue, and he hired a group of 305 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 9: protesters to march out into public in New York, and 306 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:14,159 Speaker 9: he tipped the media off and they smoked as they 307 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 9: went out in public at this event, and they declared 308 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 9: that we will not be held back any longer. We 309 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 9: can smoke in public just like a man. And it 310 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 9: became a huge issue, and so women at home began 311 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:31,719 Speaker 9: quietly all over the country joining in on all this 312 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:35,199 Speaker 9: and saying, yeah, yeah, we're going to start. We're going 313 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 9: to show them we're going to start smoking in public. 314 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 9: Well it's sort of interesting how this thing played out, 315 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 9: because now all of a sudden, almost overnight, Paul Mang 316 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:50,679 Speaker 9: was able to sell all these cigarettes, not on the 317 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 9: basis that the cigarette was any better than it was yesterday, 318 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 9: not on the basis that the cigarette had a cheaper 319 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 9: price better quality, but that you were making a statement 320 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 9: by supporting this. What they have effectively done to us 321 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:12,400 Speaker 9: in this country is convinced a lot of your neighbors 322 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 9: who want to. 323 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:14,119 Speaker 1: Be perceived as good people. 324 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 9: These are the people who put the Ukrainian flag as 325 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 9: their profile picture, and they couldn't find Ukraine on a map. 326 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:24,159 Speaker 9: They have no idea the history of Ukraine or why 327 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 9: Putin invaded. And by the way, they'll tell you that 328 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 9: if you try to take an objective look at this, 329 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 9: just as they did with COVID, if you try to 330 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 9: take election integrity or January sixth, if you try to 331 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:38,400 Speaker 9: take an objective look at what happened here and how 332 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 9: this war started and how it's going, then you're a 333 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 9: stooge for Putin. Remember Michael McCall told Tucker Crolston, and 334 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:49,400 Speaker 9: he was told by the security, the intelligence agencies that 335 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 9: Tucker Carlson, you know, that McCall should stay away from 336 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:56,919 Speaker 9: him because he's dangerous. They're telling a congressman not to 337 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 9: associate with a guy who at the time was the 338 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:01,880 Speaker 9: top rated talk show host on all of Cable News 339 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 9: Tucker Carlson because he was owned by Putin. You think 340 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 9: our security agencies should be doing that, and more importantly, 341 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:09,880 Speaker 9: why did they do it? 342 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you this. 343 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 9: Zelenski has been told by all these people that he's 344 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 9: got all the cards, and he doesn't, and that's why 345 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 9: he marched in there and he made a huge mistake. 346 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:22,919 Speaker 9: And with apologies to the oak Ridge boys, this is 347 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 9: our tribute to how he must feel right now. 348 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 2: I just said, yes, Gus, I'm all alone. 349 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 3: Ever since. 350 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 2: I walked in my head and you knew I was in. 351 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 5: Strong, I wish I would yes, now I'm all. 352 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 2: I wish I. 353 00:21:54,119 --> 00:22:02,399 Speaker 5: Yes, now I'm all alone, as I'm as good as 354 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 5: though I walked in and shap my head and you 355 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,160 Speaker 5: do who I wasn't strong? 356 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 2: I wish I would just say yes, because now I'm 357 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 2: all over the first few months of war went well. 358 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 5: We made a bunch of bucks, peeled a couple of billion, 359 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 5: all the tanks and toes and rugs, faith the ghost, 360 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 5: the key, just to keep my buckets flushed. 361 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 2: But you figured out my grasp to griz it, so 362 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:47,640 Speaker 2: now I'm screwed. I wish I would have just said yes, because. 363 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 5: Now I'm all along there since you as a fat 364 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 5: I'm as. 365 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 2: Good as though I walked in and shop my head 366 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,640 Speaker 2: and you knew why I wasn't strong. 367 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:06,120 Speaker 5: I wish I would have just said this is how 368 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 5: I'm all alone. 369 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 2: I wish I would. 370 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 5: Have just said yes, because now I'm all along. Ever 371 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 5: since us left me, I'm asked good as lone. 372 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:26,679 Speaker 2: I walked in and should my head, you who I 373 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:31,399 Speaker 2: wasn't strong. I wish I would have just said this 374 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 2: now I'm all alone. 375 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 5: I wish I would have just said yes, because now 376 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 5: I'm all along. 377 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:47,880 Speaker 2: Ever said it us left me. I'm asked good as done. 378 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 2: I walked in. 379 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 5: And should my head, and you I wasn't strong. I 380 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 5: wish I would have just said this. 381 00:23:57,800 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 2: Is now I'm all alone. 382 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:03,440 Speaker 4: I wish I. 383 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 5: Would have just said yes, because now I'm all along 384 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 5: the devil sister us left me. I'm asked good at 385 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 5: time I walked in and my head and you. 386 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:22,199 Speaker 2: Knew I wasn't shromp. I wish I would have just 387 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 2: said this is now I'm all of man. I wish 388 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 2: I would have just said yes, because now I'm all along. 389 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:40,119 Speaker 2: Dever sis you as left me I'm asked good as them. 390 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 2: I walked in and my head and you. 391 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 5: Knew I wasn't strom. 392 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:50,640 Speaker 2: I wish I would have just said this, because now 393 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 2: I'm on. 394 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 1: Alone the Michael Berry Show. 395 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 9: Michael Berry Show, you hear a lot of reference to rare 396 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:04,639 Speaker 9: earth minerals. 397 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: In Ukraine or the Ukraine. 398 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 9: Let's start with this. 399 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 1: It's not like. 400 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 9: Ukraine is sitting atop these minerals and exploiting them, putting 401 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 9: them to good use. 402 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 1: They're not. 403 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:27,640 Speaker 9: Because, as it turns out, these minerals are very difficult 404 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 9: to extract. And the reason is because the minerals. This 405 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 9: isn't like you know, just going to pull up potatoes. 406 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:42,879 Speaker 9: These minerals are buried in ore and you have to 407 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,400 Speaker 9: you have to extract the ore. 408 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,640 Speaker 1: What not or what ori fool? 409 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 9: You have to extract the ore, and then from the 410 00:25:56,600 --> 00:26:02,440 Speaker 9: ore you have to separate the minerals, these precious minerals, 411 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:09,919 Speaker 9: and that process requires that you pulverize the ore into 412 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:16,639 Speaker 9: a powder and then use very powerful, hazardous chemicals to 413 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:20,679 Speaker 9: separate amount, and then you have to alter the state 414 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:26,639 Speaker 9: of the mineral. Now i'st I'm no physicists not a 415 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:30,119 Speaker 9: feminist either, I'm no physicist. I don't claim to be 416 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:33,920 Speaker 9: an expert, but I've devoted sometime to studying this from 417 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 9: people with various backgrounds, and what you learn is that 418 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 9: there's very little of that being done, if at all, 419 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 9: was before the war, and now there's none of it 420 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 9: because what Putin has done is devastated Ukraine's industry. But 421 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 9: Ukraine really wasn't able to extract much of this anyway. 422 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 9: One of the ones, there's one called neodemium, and neodymium 423 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:08,680 Speaker 9: is used in wind turbines and EV batteries, electric vehicle batteries. Well, 424 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 9: if we do away with wind turbines, which I wish 425 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:18,640 Speaker 9: we would do, and if electric vehicles don't pick up 426 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 9: in the way of the hype, then you don't need 427 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,400 Speaker 9: as much of that. But do you know where eighty 428 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 9: percent of it is in China? Part of the reason 429 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:37,159 Speaker 9: China pushes electric vehicles is they don't have access to 430 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 9: oil and gas the way America does, the way the 431 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 9: Middle East does, so for them to enrich themselves, you 432 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 9: can't blame them for this. They want to push the 433 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 9: world into electric vehicles makes sense, and I'm not even 434 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:57,119 Speaker 9: mad at them for that. I'm mad at the American 435 00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:00,199 Speaker 9: Left for taking their money and telling lies to people here. 436 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 9: I have a friend who drives the Model S Tesla 437 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 9: Plaid and it's the top of the line, fastest car 438 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:15,400 Speaker 9: that you can you can get. And I said, what's 439 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 9: one thing about this car that you don't like? Because 440 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:23,479 Speaker 9: he loves it, absolutely loves it. And he said that 441 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 9: it's not environmentally friendly. And I said, I don't understand. 442 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 9: And he said, I don't like the fact that people 443 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 9: think that this car is environmentally friendly because it's not. 444 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:39,959 Speaker 9: It takes so much more out of the environment. It 445 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 9: does so much more damage to the environment to make 446 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 9: this car than it does your typical car because of 447 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 9: all the rare earth minerals as well. As it turns 448 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 9: out you're right, And he said, I just feel like 449 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 9: when people tell me that that, you know, they like 450 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 9: you're some virtuous person for doing it. I feel like 451 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 9: that's a little bit of I feel like I'm getting 452 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 9: credit for something that I shouldn't get credit. 453 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 1: For it, and I feel a little add about it. 454 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 9: So let's go back to the Zelensky deal. Zelensky says 455 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 9: Putin can't be trusted to keep his word, and we've 456 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 9: all heard Putin's bad Russia, bad our, whole lives. We're 457 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 9: hiding under the desk because the Russians were gonna bomb 458 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 9: us at any moment, right, bad guy's coming, boogeyman. Well, 459 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 9: here was Bill Clinton back in twenty thirteen being interviewed 460 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 9: with Pierce Morgan. This is long before Zelensky is even 461 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 9: in power, and Piers Morgan says, you know, how is 462 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 9: Putin to deal with because they famously had a pretty 463 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 9: good relationship, and no one accused Bill Clinton, as they 464 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 9: do with Donald Trump, of somehow being a Russian asset. 465 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 9: Oh no, no, no, that was diplomacy. When Bill Clinton 466 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 9: was able to get along. 467 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 19: With him effort to get the Syrian government to declare, 468 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 19: disclose and then hand over their chemical weapons. We'd be 469 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 19: crazy not to take advantage of this. 470 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 20: There's somebody'll saying, though something something sounds too good to 471 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 20: be true. 472 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 1: It usually is too good to be true. 473 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 20: Can we really believe that Vladimir Putin, with his own 474 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 20: self interest for Russia, is orchestrating this huge maneuver to 475 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 20: remove all of US science chemical weapons. 476 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 1: Well, and it's just going to happen. No, we don't 477 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 1: have to believe it. 478 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 19: We just have to see what happens and make the 479 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 19: most of what happens. You You work for the best 480 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 19: and prepare for the worst in this business. But I 481 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 19: think it would be a terrible mistake not to take 482 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 19: advantage of the opportunity. 483 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 1: And you know, look, mister. 484 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:44,479 Speaker 2: Putin has got he got all. 485 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 1: He's very smart, you know him better than most people. 486 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 20: Yeah, what was he like behind closed doors, away from 487 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 20: you know, the sort of the public utterances? 488 00:30:53,440 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 19: Smart and remarkably we had a really good blunt relationship. 489 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:05,720 Speaker 20: Help blumed, brutally blunt. 490 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 19: No, But I think, you know, I think the right 491 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 19: strategy most of the time is but it's frustrating to 492 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 19: people in your line of work. You should be brutally 493 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 19: honest with people in private, and then if you want 494 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 19: them to help you try to avoid embarrassing them in public. Now, 495 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 19: sometimes they do things which make it impossible for you 496 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 19: to keep quiet. But by and large, I found all 497 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 19: the people I dealt with appreciated it if I told 498 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 19: them the truth, how I honestly felt, and what our 499 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 19: interests were and what our objectives were. And they also 500 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 19: appreciated it when I didn't kick them around in public. 501 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 19: For as long as I couldn't kick them around, So 502 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 19: you know that's my experience, and. 503 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 20: Computeron ever reneged on a personal he did not, so 504 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 20: behind closed douels he could be trusted. 505 00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:00,160 Speaker 19: He kept his word and all the deals we made. 506 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 1: So Clinton. 507 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 9: Said that Putin kept his word, but Zelensky says he's 508 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 9: not to be trusted, and Zolensky is an honorable man. 509 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 9: Zelensky says that Putin's our enemy and that we will 510 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 9: either give him hundreds of billions of dollars more or 511 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 9: our sons will be dragged into his war. 512 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 1: And will die there. 513 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 9: Zelensky also says that over one hundred billion dollars of 514 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 9: what we've sent him is lost and we have no 515 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 9: idea where it is. And Zelensky is an honorable man 516 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 9: because we've been told so by our media, and we've 517 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 9: been told so by our deep state, and we've been 518 00:32:55,880 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 9: told so by Vogue magazine and Vanity Fair and all 519 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 9: the rest. And if they tell us something, I believe it, 520 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 9: don't you 521 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 2: Sh