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Speaker 1: your five time world champion Dallas Cowboys and five and
Speaker 1: one Dallas Cowboys winners up five in a row, going
Speaker 1: into a bye week. Yeah, looking ahead of Minnesota and
Speaker 1: Denver and Atlanta. Everybody nervous. Everybody here are those Kansas
Speaker 1: City Chiefs and then Thanksgiving Turkey against the Raiders. It's
Speaker 1: going pretty well right now. Getting a little ahead, e s.
Speaker 1: I got my tickets, Yeah, there go, you might have
Speaker 1: got your ticket off. That's right. I'll just say this.
Speaker 1: I got three words for you. What a game Sunday. Absolutely.
Speaker 1: I sat there and it finished, and I was going, Okay,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys overcame themselves. They overcame the Patriots, they overcame
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick, and they overcame the officiating. Wow, that's how good.
Speaker 1: They asked, how good they are? We wouldn't allow ourselves
Speaker 1: to beat ourselves. I like that spade. I mean they
Speaker 1: were trying to beat themselves right, time after time after time.
Speaker 1: Twelve penalties, one hundred and fifteen yards, third and one
Speaker 1: fourth and one can't make it fourth in one, two
Speaker 1: turnovers in the end zone and get a pick six
Speaker 1: and then give up a seventy's gracious, and they still won.
Speaker 1: They ain't needed overtime, right is a field? God make
Speaker 1: a field? Who I think about it? It was one
Speaker 1: after another after another. In overtime they finally score their
Speaker 1: thirty points right again, And for Symmetry's sake, the last
Speaker 1: time they won in New England was overtime herschell Walker,
Speaker 1: so why not go overtime again? Thirty four years ago
Speaker 1: herschell Walker on a sixty yard touchdown run in overtime
Speaker 1: to the house. And I'll continue to say it when
Speaker 1: with this offense, you can erase a lot of mistakes,
Speaker 1: because they put up five hundred and sixty seven yards
Speaker 1: five sixty seven, the most forty five passing both the
Speaker 1: most that Belichick has ever given up as a head coach.
Speaker 1: You took my notes there, Sorry lead, you buried my lead. Sorry, sorry,
Speaker 1: I got carried away. Now keep it going, keep it
Speaker 1: you know. And going into the game, we were wondering, why,
Speaker 1: oh this is Belichick, and oh we got a young
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator. What's he gonna do? He just offense to
Speaker 1: because he didn't run it down their throat. They threw
Speaker 1: it down their throats. Unbelievable. Rand enough though, had enough success,
Speaker 1: just enough because he was trying to take away the
Speaker 1: run that they knew that coming in though they knew
Speaker 1: that that's what Belichick does and um, and so they
Speaker 1: had a game plan for it. Five hundred how many
Speaker 1: yards sixty seven? Five hundred and sixty seven yards worth?
Speaker 1: A game plan for it? That's unreal. And they were
Speaker 1: up and down the field, but they kept shooting themselves
Speaker 1: in the foot. Well, you're getting enough holding calls. You're
Speaker 1: gonna make up for that lost yardage. There are good
Speaker 1: little yards. Yeah, A couple of those I don't know.
Speaker 1: That's why we got that. You go, you got a
Speaker 1: hat here had out He's the white hat. So I
Speaker 1: tell you who needs to bring out. Connor Williams needs
Speaker 1: to bring a hat. If I'm not mistaken that and
Speaker 1: I'm visualizing this. So they're getting all these holding calls,
Speaker 1: We're not accustomed to it, right, Uh so Belichick's gonna
Speaker 1: get his. You know, you always think that that the
Speaker 1: referees are kind of always cow tower with the Belichick.
Speaker 1: You remember when the guy was off sides, he lined
Speaker 1: up off side in the Super Bowl, Right, No one
Speaker 1: ever makes that call, but they called it I think
Speaker 1: against the Rams, right yeah, and the close game and
Speaker 1: that was crucial. Just silly things like that seems to
Speaker 1: happen with Belichick. So when I when I looked at
Speaker 1: this game you had, you had so many penalties that
Speaker 1: I think Conni Williams got frustrated and I could just
Speaker 1: imagine him saying something, must act must accustomed out because
Speaker 1: I got three he got three right in in one quarter?
Speaker 1: Am I right? He got three holding calls in one
Speaker 1: quarter and that and uh so you could image yeah,
Speaker 1: well no, that result was the result was a result
Speaker 1: of it, right, but that was another Now that holding
Speaker 1: call was a holding call. That particular call was. I
Speaker 1: think something must have happened before that, you know too
Speaker 1: where because Connor actually reached back and grabbed the guy.
Speaker 1: You could on the replay, and it was a holding
Speaker 1: because that the one he had two guys and he
Speaker 1: was trying to take both of them. Yeah, that was
Speaker 1: the last one. Yeah, yeah, that was the one, And
Speaker 1: I think something must have happened before that because Connor
Speaker 1: is probably like, hey, yeah, sobe you know what's going on,
Speaker 1: you know, and Connor Williams gets usuppossible, like that's hilarious,
Speaker 1: mild Mann. I thought I thought Tyrann Smith was gonna
Speaker 1: get one. God, he's dominating the guy and they call holding.
Speaker 1: It's like, give me a break, I give you the
Speaker 1: hands to the face, although it was to the neck
Speaker 1: by the one where they almost took his neck off, right, Hey,
Speaker 1: don't be so short, right, And then and then you
Speaker 1: get into at any you know, the darn third and goal.
Speaker 1: He's half his bodies in the end zone. What do
Speaker 1: they look at? Okay, because they couldn't see that one
Speaker 1: either way, all right, so we're gonna get into that
Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, because I want to go I didn't
Speaker 1: see it. I didn't see it. I didn't Well, you
Speaker 1: saw my I said, okay, and CBS eleven Bill Jones
Speaker 1: on Twitter, I went ahead, I'm watching it from home.
Speaker 1: That's one of the beauty views you get, the overhead shot,
Speaker 1: because I saw it when it happened. They had very quickly,
Speaker 1: and I know a lot of fans saw it too,
Speaker 1: because I got a lot of responses on Twitter. They're
Speaker 1: jumping out of there off their couches like I did
Speaker 1: when I saw the overhead shot, which shows Dak clearly
Speaker 1: in the end zone, across the goal line, and um,
Speaker 1: you know, unless they thought that the ball was between
Speaker 1: his ankles where the which is where they are familiar,
Speaker 1: but where but there's there's numb pyre that is looking
Speaker 1: right down at Dak. I mean when you unstacked the
Speaker 1: pile at the goal. Okay, I understand the officials. Technically,
Speaker 1: they have to be able to see the football cross
Speaker 1: the goal line, and on a quarterback sneak like that,
Speaker 1: there's too many bodies in there and he cannot see them.
Speaker 1: So the only way you can determine whether he got
Speaker 1: across the goal line or not is you unstacked the pile,
Speaker 1: which is what they did. And there's no way that
Speaker 1: Dak has the ability once there are twelve three hundred
Speaker 1: pound men on top of him to be able to
Speaker 1: crawl forward wherever he is. That's where he was, where
Speaker 1: he was, and the other thing, and Jim Nance brought
Speaker 1: it up on the broadcast just as an aside, Well,
Speaker 1: maybe his knee right touch before, but you can go
Speaker 1: back and look at No, you go back and look
Speaker 1: at it. His knee did not hit the ground as
Speaker 1: he started his surge forward, So his knee didn't hit
Speaker 1: the ground until he reached this forward progress, which was
Speaker 1: clearly across the goal line when you look at the
Speaker 1: overhead shot. I mean, I don't know how much more
Speaker 1: video evidence you need. And and the fact of the
Speaker 1: matter is they clearly I mean they took if in
Speaker 1: the review they they just took a passing glance at it.
Speaker 1: They did not They needed to stop it and take
Speaker 1: a look at it and get that whole overhead shot.
Speaker 1: That should be standard operating procedure on any plunge up
Speaker 1: the middle at the goal time. We've got the technology,
Speaker 1: We've got the eye in the sky right above the
Speaker 1: goal line. So there's you've got the perfect view of
Speaker 1: it from up there. You have to stop it and
Speaker 1: take a look at it. And the problem is the
Speaker 1: worst part was is they you they can't see from
Speaker 1: where they're at on the goal line, right, And so
Speaker 1: they waited till they unstacked everything, and then they saw
Speaker 1: where he was and it was like, okay, we're gonna
Speaker 1: markt six inches from the goal line. How did you
Speaker 1: see that? Right? How did you see did you come
Speaker 1: to that conclusion? And if you look at that the
Speaker 1: screen shot that I tweeted out, which has about six
Speaker 1: thousand retweets, now, it's the it's a perfect shot overhead
Speaker 1: and he is not only at the goal line, his
Speaker 1: torso is beyond the goal line. Sounds. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: unbelievable that you you don't review that A and and
Speaker 1: and for the officials on the field, when you unstacked
Speaker 1: the pile and you see that, why did you wait? Yeah,
Speaker 1: because you're waiting, nobody can anything una And then the
Speaker 1: only evidence they have on the field is after they
Speaker 1: unstack and they see Dak across the goal line. Here's
Speaker 1: the other part of it is I was sitting there
Speaker 1: going why aren't the Cowboys arguing it more? Well, you
Speaker 1: can't argue when you don't get the call. Because of
Speaker 1: the timing rules in the NFL, you don't have time
Speaker 1: to argue the call. You have to go on to
Speaker 1: the next play and get ready to run the next
Speaker 1: quarterbacks the which of course ended in disaster. They tried,
Speaker 1: they tried, everybody tried to beat them, and they couldn't
Speaker 1: do it. That's how good they are. Oh man, it
Speaker 1: was aggravating. Well, it's just but it doesn't make sense, right,
Speaker 1: But we wouldn't have had the great game we had
Speaker 1: if no. Let's just be thankful for that guy. That's right,
Speaker 1: some stuff, you know. I put this game in as
Speaker 1: far as regular season games and Cowboys history, I put
Speaker 1: this one in the top five. Oh it was. I
Speaker 1: mean the number one all time was Rogers come back
Speaker 1: in his last regular season game in nineteen seventy nine,
Speaker 1: Tony Hill to come back from two touchdowns down basically
Speaker 1: in the last couple of minutes. As far as regular
Speaker 1: season games go. Saying a lot of regular season games,
Speaker 1: I'm not disagreeing. I know that's because we've had some, yeah,
Speaker 1: crazy regular season games, but this one might have taken
Speaker 1: the cake, especially because where it was. And not only
Speaker 1: did they feed all the stuff I said, they defeated
Speaker 1: the haunting history of losing to not only Belichick but
Speaker 1: the Patriots, not having beaten them since ninety six, not
Speaker 1: having won there since eighty seven. Yeah, the storylines that
Speaker 1: go with it, and not even even in the first half,
Speaker 1: the first quarter of the game. I mean, Romo made
Speaker 1: the comment, this is crazy how much stuff is happening,
Speaker 1: and it's like nothing's getting to Tom With Belichick. I'm
Speaker 1: telling you that things get real quirky and kouki when
Speaker 1: he comes around, especially if you're going to be in Boston.
Speaker 1: You know, the referees are always kind of intimidated by him,
Speaker 1: I think, and they always feel like they have to
Speaker 1: make sure that he's happy, Like before I pull a lag,
Speaker 1: before I pull the flag, Is it okay, coach? All right,
Speaker 1: we're good, kind of like Jordan rules. Yeah. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: then it just went dwarp speed once Trey Vine got
Speaker 1: the interception, and then they come back good and it's
Speaker 1: seventy five yard or it'd bee. It was just crazy,
Speaker 1: all right. So uh, figuring that my opinion, I don't
Speaker 1: know what their calls are I saw, I saw one
Speaker 1: safety high man to man. That's what we saw, right, yes,
Speaker 1: and pressure and pressure. Casey had come from the other side,
Speaker 1: disguising they had the umbrella look is what we call it.
Speaker 1: He came from the other side. The safety came down
Speaker 1: on on Trayvon side to cover his man. Casey came
Speaker 1: from the other side to go to the middle of
Speaker 1: the field. Most safeties they're not gonna be able to
Speaker 1: catch the numbers. They're not gonna be able to make
Speaker 1: the numbers from the middle of the field unless it's
Speaker 1: really really deep pass um. To me, I see a
Speaker 1: mistake on the approach by the safety. But but that's
Speaker 1: that's Dick's man. Yeah, that's his man, bid on the
Speaker 1: bed on the double move right, and I get that
Speaker 1: genius move by Belichick. You know, let's go right back
Speaker 1: at yeah flying there you go, he's flying high man.
Speaker 1: You saw in the sideline before that, Belichick went over
Speaker 1: and said something to mac Jones on the sideline. And
Speaker 1: at the time, I thought, oh, he's just keeping him
Speaker 1: right his head right, Well, we'll put the bug in
Speaker 1: his ear, huh. Yeah. And and but now in hindsight,
Speaker 1: after seeing the play, the first play. It was probably
Speaker 1: had to do with that we'll get him right here,
Speaker 1: right here. Well, but Kaz could have rubbed out the mistake.
Speaker 1: That's it. I don't know if he overran it or
Speaker 1: it just he got Maybe he got there too soon.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure he thought. I think he thought he
Speaker 1: had to pick. I mean, if you look at him,
Speaker 1: he's got his hands. Uh, he needn't look like he
Speaker 1: was surprised that the guy made the interception. Reception is
Speaker 1: as if he didn't think the receiver was going to
Speaker 1: make the catch. It's like, oh, the receivers not gonna
Speaker 1: make it. No one's gonna make it. I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: casually come over and boy, that was a huge mistake.
Speaker 1: But also even tray Hunt, let me come on, you
Speaker 1: just got but seven, seven, just got seven. That's great.
Speaker 1: Did they mentioned my name yesterday? I don't think they did.
Speaker 1: Believe they did yesterday. Yes, Yes, I believe the words
Speaker 1: were the great Everson Walls. I think that's the word.
Speaker 1: I mean, I believe it said the great great Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: the future Hall of Fame. Yeah, that's I believe that's
Speaker 1: what they said. Yeah. No, I still think Dick should
Speaker 1: not have stopped running as well. You just don't leave
Speaker 1: that up to your safety. You actually had a chance
Speaker 1: if you would have kept up and kept the speed
Speaker 1: up because the guy's fast as head, right, he could
Speaker 1: have actually gone up and made the play on the ball.
Speaker 1: But it seems like he I'm gonna leave it up. No,
Speaker 1: you don't leave it up to me. I've never left
Speaker 1: anything up to Michael Downs. We're gonna fight to get
Speaker 1: as much as you love Michael right along. It's a
Speaker 1: different mindset when you're ahead, right, yes, you want to
Speaker 1: as opposed to the previous play where you're behind and
Speaker 1: you need to make a play. Let's look at the
Speaker 1: New Orleans game against with Minnesota, right, remember that. Yep,
Speaker 1: the safety just didn't know how to approach it. Okay,
Speaker 1: Well ahead, I don't want the PI so okay, So
Speaker 1: in my mind, I'm my way to confuse as I
Speaker 1: approach it. And from there you know, he didn't didn't
Speaker 1: do anything. You just left in limbo. Especially when you're
Speaker 1: in a position where you're up by more than a
Speaker 1: field goal. They got to score a touchdown to beat
Speaker 1: you at this point. Oh man, boy, that was such
Speaker 1: a I remember when Dick took it to the house.
Speaker 1: I just I was the only one in the room,
Speaker 1: so I was running out to Yeah, my son just
Speaker 1: came home with has been celebrating and we're high five
Speaker 1: and like, wait, what just happened? Oh damn okay, wow,
Speaker 1: my wife goes no, I can hear in the back.
Speaker 1: That's why that reaction right there is why this game
Speaker 1: ranks right behind the Starbucks Boys Washington game in nineteen
Speaker 1: seventy nine. Because I was in college at that time
Speaker 1: and I jumped off my couch. I went running out
Speaker 1: of my frat house celebrating Roger to Tony. I sprained
Speaker 1: my ankle out in the yard, and you know what,
Speaker 1: And I must admit, I got up off my seat
Speaker 1: and it was like no. And I was in the
Speaker 1: room upstairs by myself. I was like, no effing way.
Speaker 1: No one else heard it but me. Right, I was unbelieving.
Speaker 1: That's what I really thought. My name was gonna come
Speaker 1: up again. That's last night Everson Walls. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: what is he doing? I mean, when you start getting
Speaker 1: tipped passes, right, it's like things you're living right until
Speaker 1: the next it's just glue on his hands. I mean,
Speaker 1: it was like anything that touches his hands, he catching it,
Speaker 1: He stepped over the receiver and took off to the house.
Speaker 1: I mean that was some nice running. What does he
Speaker 1: run afour? What? I don't know. It's been than the
Speaker 1: four five? It was four enough? Well, I loved it
Speaker 1: all right. I'll look up. There's forty time in the
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Speaker 1: All right, and we don't have an official forty time
Speaker 1: on Trayvon because he did not run at the combine,
Speaker 1: which was the comb it was last year, The combine
Speaker 1: was before COVID hit and he did not run and
Speaker 1: didn't never pro day, so there we don't know what
Speaker 1: he runs. He officially he runs fast enough as as
Speaker 1: fast as he wants to run all right, where do
Speaker 1: you want to go next? Maybe mentioned uh strained calf
Speaker 1: muscle for Dak Prescott Point, who evidently walked into the
Speaker 1: postgame interview in shorts because he had a big old
Speaker 1: boot walking boot on his right, really walking boot though
Speaker 1: Jordan walking yow. He sounds like he strained his calf
Speaker 1: on that touchdown pass the final throw of the game
Speaker 1: came down, he said, he came down a little funny
Speaker 1: and or he came down awkwardly and he felt a
Speaker 1: little funny, and so they checked it out. Limped off
Speaker 1: the field, hopped off, hoped to the locker room. Did
Speaker 1: he hop to selebrate? No, he just stood there and
Speaker 1: let everyone just let everybody just show with their praises
Speaker 1: on him, he said. He said he wasn't He didn't
Speaker 1: really feel it until the adrenaline wore off. A couple
Speaker 1: of them. Well, I don't know if it's forty five
Speaker 1: seconds later at later or what it was. That's when
Speaker 1: he at first he didn't feel it and until everybody
Speaker 1: started jumping on top of it. And maybe he's trying
Speaker 1: to hold up all those people. Probably maybe that's why
Speaker 1: he heard it. But um, but you know what he
Speaker 1: sounded like in the post game, which you obviously you
Speaker 1: can hear here on Dallas Cowboys dot com. He sounded
Speaker 1: in good spirits about it. Just wanted to give us
Speaker 1: some drama here on the bywayn So MRI at some
Speaker 1: point today, so maybe later to the s Affternoon because
Speaker 1: Mike's press conference. I don't think it's still four thirty
Speaker 1: to day if I remember correctly, and then that's correct
Speaker 1: and the coordinators are after that, so maybe by then
Speaker 1: we'll have an update on that. But I thought we
Speaker 1: um because I went back and looked at it time
Speaker 1: and time again, the uh the touchdown passed the CD
Speaker 1: thirty five yards to win it. H just how it
Speaker 1: sort of unfolded UM and I it was UM. The
Speaker 1: way they lined up, and again it was the Patriots
Speaker 1: playing basically the defense they wanted to play all all game.
Speaker 1: They wanted to put extra guys on the line of
Speaker 1: scrimmage to put pressure on DAC and try to man
Speaker 1: up on all the receivers. When are they going to
Speaker 1: stop doing that? Somebody's got to learn when they have
Speaker 1: enough that they have enough, that they have enough defensive
Speaker 1: backs to cover all the weapons the Cowboys. You can cover,
Speaker 1: you can by design, you can cover them, but when
Speaker 1: it comes to reality, they don't. And that's the thing.
Speaker 1: You have to realize that not only we have good receivers,
Speaker 1: we have a number of good receivers and especial good
Speaker 1: receivers far outweigh you're a good defense. And especially for
Speaker 1: the Patriots yesterday, they in the first half, some of
Speaker 1: them came back in the game, but they got hurt.
Speaker 1: They had some injury issues, to the point that on
Speaker 1: the interception by Kyle Dugger in the first half, Justin
Speaker 1: Bethel made the play in the end zone knocking the
Speaker 1: ball away and Dugger got it on a deflection. Well,
Speaker 1: I looked up and Bethel has been you know, he's
Speaker 1: a special teamer. He's only had eleven snaps on defense
Speaker 1: the entire season coming into yesterday, and probably so. So.
Speaker 1: What they did was they came out with two tight
Speaker 1: ends to the right. They had both receivers uh CD
Speaker 1: and Mark Cooper to the left, and so he play
Speaker 1: fakes basically to Zeke, which held the one safety for
Speaker 1: a minute, and then he bootlegs does it reverse pivot
Speaker 1: to his right, which was gonna buy him time right
Speaker 1: And evidently the idea was Okay, we're gonna throw this
Speaker 1: little thing to Schultz, right. Well, Cooper goes out to
Speaker 1: the left and twenty seven I think it was Adrian
Speaker 1: Phillips goes with him, j Jackson or Jackson and then
Speaker 1: and it was Jackson. And then CD comes underneath him
Speaker 1: and Jalen Mills is playing off right. So he gives
Speaker 1: Lamb a free release to go, and so one of
Speaker 1: the safeties goes with Jarwin, one of them goes with Schultz,
Speaker 1: the other one was gonna blitz and then he said, oh,
Speaker 1: I better go out with Dak and that left nobody
Speaker 1: nobody with Lamb coming across right and he ran nine
Speaker 1: yards and at the nine yard mark, he's doing this.
Speaker 1: He's old Mills, never game. It's almost like he said
Speaker 1: once once CD put his hand up, Mills was almost
Speaker 1: confirming yes and CD and CD's not going to even
Speaker 1: hustle after you. CD said, I was shocked that I
Speaker 1: was that open. And then he goes I was expecting
Speaker 1: another safety and there was nobody there and he didn't
Speaker 1: catch him until he gets to the end zone, pushes
Speaker 1: him down needlessly, and no, he needed to do that, yeah, right,
Speaker 1: he really needed safe at CD ends up, CD gets
Speaker 1: up and ways of course the story behind that. Jalen
Speaker 1: Mills is from De Soto, Okay, and so you know
Speaker 1: he's a Dallas kid. And I don't know if he's
Speaker 1: here in the off season or not. But I mean,
Speaker 1: my wife was saying, oh, CD shouldn't have toned him, like,
Speaker 1: oh no, no, it's fine. You know, he's just holding
Speaker 1: the ball out. I mean, just won the game. And
Speaker 1: then I told her that this get the defensive back.
Speaker 1: He's a former Eagle, and then it was from he's
Speaker 1: from stop right there. Yeah, and she well, and she
Speaker 1: even said, oh, so they know each other. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: know each other. It's just a competitive but it was.
Speaker 1: It was a great It was a great play call
Speaker 1: at that spot for what they were anticipating that the
Speaker 1: Patriots were gonna do defense. Now here's the thing to me,
Speaker 1: and I don't know if they are they this slip?
Speaker 1: Are they this intuitive? I'd safe about it. It It seemed
Speaker 1: like five six straight plays maybe more. Uh, Zeke wasn't
Speaker 1: in the game. They had pollared in, they had poloed in,
Speaker 1: and my son was like, where's where's Zeke? Is he hurt?
Speaker 1: What's going on? Well? They even cut to him on
Speaker 1: the sideline. Yeah, okay, I didn't see it. He was
Speaker 1: going like this on his helmet like for those not watching,
Speaker 1: Mickey just hit his head set. Yeah, well that was
Speaker 1: almost like, why am I not in the game something?
Speaker 1: That's what I took. And so here's the thing. So okay,
Speaker 1: just as soon as my son says that Zeke comes
Speaker 1: in the game, right, so here, the Cowboys have have
Speaker 1: him on the ropes. This is an important moment, and
Speaker 1: you know the Patriots are thinking they're gonna run the
Speaker 1: ball to Zeke. They just put him in just for
Speaker 1: this purpose. Now do you think that Kellen Moore knew
Speaker 1: that the timing you're putting Zeke in the game after
Speaker 1: not having him in the game for about five six
Speaker 1: seven players in the row to what Patriots gonna say?
Speaker 1: They're bringing Zeke in because now they're gonna just try
Speaker 1: and kick a field goals. Yes, we're just gonna get
Speaker 1: yards here because all we need is yards. He thought
Speaker 1: that was to me, that was the that was the
Speaker 1: gravy on top of that stage. That's why Kellen Moore
Speaker 1: calls Zeke deek. He's a decoy perfect. I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't know if that had anything to do with it,
Speaker 1: but it just totally fed into the Patriots being so
Speaker 1: gullible at that point. I mean, they bit hard and
Speaker 1: once again looking for another safety. No he's not there
Speaker 1: because they bit so hard on the philosophy itself. Just
Speaker 1: an example of how Kellen Moore just coached the pants
Speaker 1: off the greatest coach of all time. I don't I
Speaker 1: don't want to spoil the image, but I wrote down
Speaker 1: the first play from the twenty. He ran for two
Speaker 1: yards and I said, got up, slowly, got off, so
Speaker 1: he did something to him and then that's when Pollard
Speaker 1: came in. And Pollard was in there until until that play,
Speaker 1: until that play. Yeah, he came in that play. I
Speaker 1: promise you the Patriots what they can heavy run. Everyone.
Speaker 1: Everyone that's front seven's thinking heavy run. That's why that
Speaker 1: was the perfect call. And it was perfect timing because
Speaker 1: Romo kept calling for it the time, no more than
Speaker 1: I mean maybe a couple of times. But they called
Speaker 1: time out when he when he first said they were
Speaker 1: going to do it. They were going to do it then. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I can't remember if New England called timeout or
Speaker 1: the Cowboys called I forgot New England called timeout yeah,
Speaker 1: and it stopped and they were sad. On the same
Speaker 1: series or the previous series. I think it was the
Speaker 1: previous series. So it was in regulation, Yeah, before the
Speaker 1: tying field goal. I believe it was that. It was
Speaker 1: that it was before the tying field goal. Okay, yeah, see,
Speaker 1: I uh where was it timeout? Cowboys call? Well, I've
Speaker 1: got a timeout that Cowboys. No, I don't think we
Speaker 1: called it. There was a timeout called at two oh
Speaker 1: one and then two minute warning. Maybe it was the
Speaker 1: possession before that. I don't remember. I just remember when
Speaker 1: he said it and then and then they didn't get
Speaker 1: to it. But they came back after the time out
Speaker 1: and they were lined up the same way that they
Speaker 1: didn't run. I think they ended up handing the ball. Yes,
Speaker 1: they did to Pilot, I believe is what happens, and
Speaker 1: that that was even better for said enough for Zeke
Speaker 1: because now thinking they're gonna okay, we're gonna do better this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so amazing, dude. One twenty eight and three, the Patriots
Speaker 1: are successful when when leading with like two minutes to
Speaker 1: go in the game. I didn't see that's that one
Speaker 1: twenty eight and and it's something similar to that in
Speaker 1: front of me when they leaded halftime. I didn't see
Speaker 1: that and U and one of the losses and they'd
Speaker 1: just be a couple of losses or maybe three. Now
Speaker 1: one of them was the Brady game of two weeks ago.
Speaker 1: Wo wow. Okay, all right, so maybe their last two
Speaker 1: home games, that last two home and now they they're
Speaker 1: owing four. And I just have a question. I mean,
Speaker 1: we got to talk about which which was the best
Speaker 1: pass that that through? Which was the best catch of
Speaker 1: the game. I say both of the same, both the
Speaker 1: same exactly. I think the pass along that the cornerback
Speaker 1: was going for the pick six. You know that, yeah,
Speaker 1: and Dak knew he was going for the pick six.
Speaker 1: It's a fact. It's a fourth down play, fourth and fourth.
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean that we're not talking about any
Speaker 1: of this stuff if they don't execute that pass. I mean,
Speaker 1: you talk about coming through under pressure and the game
Speaker 1: is on the line on this play right here and
Speaker 1: pass and totally not sitting down during this whole part
Speaker 1: of the game. I'm not even sitting down. And with
Speaker 1: that fourth and fourth, I was writing down Dak high
Speaker 1: to Wilson, but he had yeah the guy. I mean,
Speaker 1: come on, man, you talk about being in sync. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean that's kind of clutched moooves that you just
Speaker 1: almost come to expect that from dad. And that's your
Speaker 1: that's your fourth receiver, that's your fourth reci but that's
Speaker 1: his favorite, and Noah Brown came up with a couple
Speaker 1: of casual right, man, So your fourth I think I
Speaker 1: figured out the fourth and fifth receivers had six catches,
Speaker 1: which which once again leads to everything that we're talking about.
Speaker 1: That that just lays out, you know, the whole because
Speaker 1: McCarthy talked about we needed all our perimeter players because
Speaker 1: we knew how they were going to play the game,
Speaker 1: and he knew they were gonna say, okay, whatever we're
Speaker 1: gonna do. Zeke's not running for one hundred yards on us, right,
Speaker 1: but they still managed one hundred and twenty two. And
Speaker 1: so now you talking just very pedestrian, thirty twenty six,
Speaker 1: thirty one seconds to go, just very pedestrian. Let's just
Speaker 1: hit h cdo of the middle fil you know, to
Speaker 1: the point that you and Roma pointed out on the broadcast.
Speaker 1: But the end of that game, everybody was so gassed.
Speaker 1: He was talking about the receivers. But if you look
Speaker 1: at the Patriots defensive line trying to put pressure on back.
Speaker 1: They were barely getting off the ball. But to the
Speaker 1: point on the receivers that Malik Turner goes into the
Speaker 1: game and then most criticals stage of the game, and
Speaker 1: they tried throwing to that's right, So let's get the
Speaker 1: guy in here who can actually run fifty yards down field,
Speaker 1: let's throw it deep to it. I'm sure they were
Speaker 1: just dog ass tired, that's what we're talking about. Yeah,
Speaker 1: when they hit that the third and twenty something that
Speaker 1: to seed everyone. It looked as if they were confident
Speaker 1: and cocky. But I just think, like you said, they
Speaker 1: were just exhausted. No one had any energy to just
Speaker 1: kind of be geeked up, like, yeah, we'll get the
Speaker 1: cow Boys called that time out. Yes, they had to.
Speaker 1: Which one you're out before the who the field goal?
Speaker 1: They had to Yeah, they called it. I was figuring
Speaker 1: they were so tired they probably couldn't get everybody off
Speaker 1: the field. No, they called the time out, Yeah they did, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: So it ended up fourth and one. Yeah, yeah, it
Speaker 1: was fourth and one, which was amazing that they almost
Speaker 1: came up with the first down. That's because if he
Speaker 1: gets it He's not twenty fourth after the fourth and fourth, right,
Speaker 1: that's after the fourth and fourth of what it's like, Oh,
Speaker 1: that was pretty underwhelming, but that was amazing also. I mean,
Speaker 1: and we're looking at these passes that he's throwing in
Speaker 1: the catches that they're making, and it's almost routine. Now,
Speaker 1: the greatness now is almost routine for this offense. So okay,
Speaker 1: So I would say they're equally the cedric one and
Speaker 1: the third and twenty five twenty four yards to CD.
Speaker 1: You got to say both of them are just as
Speaker 1: important because the game the game ends with either one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, you get another chance. But yeah, I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: so CD finishes with nine, that's because it was fourth
Speaker 1: it was fourth down. Yeah, so so it trumps it
Speaker 1: because it was fourth down. Now if the yeah, CD
Speaker 1: finishes with nine catches for one hundred and forty nine yards.
Speaker 1: Who had both careers had to pick the clip? Who,
Speaker 1: by the way, did you have them? No? You know
Speaker 1: who the pick the clip was? You got them? I
Speaker 1: had Connor williams Kellen Moore. Ah, you did, my man
Speaker 1: and I had taken you got it, you got need
Speaker 1: it? It It used a coach about man. That was that
Speaker 1: was Lamb's second multi touchdown game. He had two uh
Speaker 1: and zeke. While he only rushed for sixty nine yards,
Speaker 1: he had seven catches for fifty. Wow, that gives me
Speaker 1: over one hundred yards from scrimmage. Sheltz five catches, Cooper
Speaker 1: five catches, Wilson four, three for Pollard and two for
Speaker 1: Noah Brown and one for one yard for Joe. Yes,
Speaker 1: that was a big yard. Cowboys are having a hard
Speaker 1: enough time get at one yard and so that was
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Speaker 1: talk about with this game, and you'll be able to
Speaker 1: hear all the talk throughout the day here on all
Speaker 1: the podcast and we're just kicking it off. But how
Speaker 1: about we in this last segment talk about special teams
Speaker 1: and talk about a block punt block two years ago
Speaker 1: as it was a block punt by Matthews Slater. That
Speaker 1: was the deciding play and going into this game, in fact,
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy told me we got to talk block punts.
Speaker 1: It was a priority when we were taping the coaching
Speaker 1: show last week. We got to talk special teams and
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a big day for Bones Fossil. And
Speaker 1: sure enough they got their block punt. Now, they didn't
Speaker 1: turn it into points because of what we already talked
Speaker 1: about down on the goal line. But that's a perfectly
Speaker 1: executed block punt by Luke Gifford. Couldn't be any better.
Speaker 1: When you you take it off the guy's foot right,
Speaker 1: you didn't even have to, uh, you know, go chase
Speaker 1: the ball down. It landed right underneath him when he fell,
Speaker 1: so good to Gifford and it looked like, I don't
Speaker 1: know if they overloaded, but no one touched him. He
Speaker 1: came through clean, So that was well. It could have
Speaker 1: been huge, but they didn't score after it. But yeah,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys special teams other than the missfield goal that
Speaker 1: we just talked about, and there was kind of a
Speaker 1: reason for that, um you know, they they averaged almost
Speaker 1: twenty four twenty five yards a kickoff return and um,
Speaker 1: if I remember they didn't do much on well the
Speaker 1: hell no one punted, right, I think they were three
Speaker 1: once in the game Cowboys had one and they had two. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just move again. The reason that this game was just
Speaker 1: so body, you know, the black punt last time they
Speaker 1: were there ended up setting up the basically the winning touchdown,
Speaker 1: the only touchdown in the game back in the rainstorm
Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen. So yeah, the Cowboys. A little more
Speaker 1: symmetry there. Uh. And then the other guy that I
Speaker 1: think we need to talk about, Uh, Randy Gregory's a beast.
Speaker 1: I love it. He had he had the two sacks.
Speaker 1: That's his second two sack game in three games. Uh.
Speaker 1: He ends up with three tackles, uh, one tackle for
Speaker 1: a loss, two quarterback hits obviously the sack fumble that
Speaker 1: the Gholston recovered, and I bet when they look for pressures,
Speaker 1: he probably got about five. Always has a bunch of
Speaker 1: pressures and it's like he's just a rabbit dog. And
Speaker 1: he forced one holding call which was a big call,
Speaker 1: right Uh. I think was that on the the touchdown
Speaker 1: passed that they had to come back. He got the
Speaker 1: guy got called for holding. Um and and then he
Speaker 1: spoke out after the game and he basically said, I
Speaker 1: don't know, but these officials didn't do a very good job.
Speaker 1: And I'm paraphrasing, and I agree. They could have called
Speaker 1: They could have called somebody holding him several times. And
Speaker 1: you know the thing we were talking about last week
Speaker 1: with um Dan Quinn putting the helmet on, and they
Speaker 1: were they were practicing getting cut and he was the
Speaker 1: guy he was playing the Patriots and going down low.
Speaker 1: I saw that offensive tackle dive right at his feet
Speaker 1: down on one play and he kind of pushed him
Speaker 1: down and jumped over. But they but they knew that
Speaker 1: was coming, that they were going to do cut blocking
Speaker 1: on him, and sure enough, there it was. I saw
Speaker 1: that happen to him. And the thing that that Quinn
Speaker 1: did then when they started chipping him on the outside,
Speaker 1: he started standing him up in the middle of the
Speaker 1: defensive line along with Parsons, and they widened out the
Speaker 1: other defensive lineman. Yeah, so it was almost like they
Speaker 1: had a six man front. But those guys were standing
Speaker 1: up and they were looping and trying to cut through,
Speaker 1: so they couldn't chip him because they were starting to
Speaker 1: chip him on the outside with the running back. You know,
Speaker 1: when you start thinking about guys like what Dak went
Speaker 1: through and what Randy Greby went through, you those journeys
Speaker 1: can be amazing. They could make you or break you.
Speaker 1: And you think about what Gregy went through. It wasn't
Speaker 1: about any injuries. All he had to do was fight
Speaker 1: himself and that's that's the toughest enemy you can have.
Speaker 1: So for him to come through that the way he
Speaker 1: did and to be as solid as he is now
Speaker 1: as a human being, that's just as important as what
Speaker 1: he's doing on the football field, because right now he
Speaker 1: seems to be as stable as possible. And man, I
Speaker 1: could magness. Sometimes he's sitting up at night wondering where
Speaker 1: his future was going to be. And now look where
Speaker 1: he is now. It's pretty amazing. Yeah, And boy, and
Speaker 1: he's he's without DeMarcus Lawrence in there. He's almost a
Speaker 1: lifesaver on the defense. That continues to cause me to go,
Speaker 1: I don't know, they just I mean, they ended up
Speaker 1: giving up one hundred and twenty yards rushing um to
Speaker 1: a team that's not very offensive, and you know, and
Speaker 1: they gave up so many big plays once again, keep
Speaker 1: they let they allow them to keep the chains moving, right,
Speaker 1: so frustrated, all right, yeah, and we'll talk about now, Everson,
Speaker 1: you're gonna be on the next couple of days. I'm
Speaker 1: only one thirty, okay, and we're on at twelve thirty.
Speaker 1: I believe that's right. Tuesday and Wednesday, right, I think
Speaker 1: we got robbed. That is heck okay. Um, So we'll
Speaker 1: talk about it more in the next couple of days.
Speaker 1: But um, you know, one of the things when you're
Speaker 1: talking about run defense, so you know, Rubbo talked about
Speaker 1: a little bit how dan Quinn has changed his philosophy,
Speaker 1: his defensive philosophy from his Seattle days or Atlantic days.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of what the Belichick does with the
Speaker 1: Patriots that had morphed into dan Quinn's defense. And we
Speaker 1: talked about a little bit the use of those dbs.
Speaker 1: I looked at the snap counts this morning. The Cowboys
Speaker 1: had per snap or in the game five if they
Speaker 1: ran fifty four snaps on offense and there were five
Speaker 1: point nine eighth, well, there were three hundred eleven snaps
Speaker 1: for defensive backs in the game. If you divide that
Speaker 1: by fifty four snaps per play, five point nine eight
Speaker 1: dbs on the field. So basically, the Cowboys a lot
Speaker 1: of times on average had nearly six defensive backs on
Speaker 1: the field. And see the difference between this year and
Speaker 1: last year. These are huge dbs, and that's not even
Speaker 1: taken to account. Keanuneil, yeah, who's basically a dB plan linebacker.
Speaker 1: And that's what I liked. Several times though in the
Speaker 1: run game he got exposed when they were lining in
Speaker 1: Parsons up like the strong side linebacker on the line
Speaker 1: of scrimmage and then it was vander esh and Neil
Speaker 1: in the middle and they were running right at him.
Speaker 1: So that's something that they may have to look at.
Speaker 1: But even you look at the Patriots tight ends and
Speaker 1: those are receiving type tied ends with Hunter Henry and
Speaker 1: John who Smith and so to be able to combat
Speaker 1: what they're doing offensively and what so many teams in
Speaker 1: the leaguer do. And you have so many dbs on
Speaker 1: the field, and you're going to expose yourself in the
Speaker 1: run game, and you know, and they they were running
Speaker 1: the ball. I mean, they average six point seven year
Speaker 1: yards play a play. And to start the game, Parsons
Speaker 1: was playing defensive end or playing outside linebacker. He was
Speaker 1: outside line exactly right when they went with two tight ends,
Speaker 1: but at least, at least unlike last year, they weren't
Speaker 1: in nickel. They were actually playing three linebackers on the
Speaker 1: field at that time. All right, that does it for oh,
Speaker 1: for us, there's much more still to come, and we
Speaker 1: will chat at you tomorrow and mix shots at twelve
Speaker 1: thirty and we'll be all back together probably next Monday
Speaker 1: or something like that because it's a bye week. Maybe
Speaker 1: that's what CD was doing, all right, Yeah, Bil Cowboy.
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