Speaker 1: So look, I ain't gonna hold you. I was not
Speaker 1: going to cover this because I feel like it's something
Speaker 1: that needs to be discussed at the Domino te what
Speaker 1: to cook out, you know, and I just don't want
Speaker 1: to feed the machine. But at some point we gotta
Speaker 1: decide whose man is this? And somebody gotta come come
Speaker 1: get their boy. Yee. We got to decide, okay, when
Speaker 1: when did he cross the line? Y'all? And has he
Speaker 1: crossed the line? Because you know, the important nuance to
Speaker 1: this is is how we've survived as collective you know,
Speaker 1: slaves like the you know, we we needed each other
Speaker 1: to survive. So when somebody got out of line, we
Speaker 1: looked out for each other. You know. The I don't
Speaker 1: know if you know this, but corn rows, like the
Speaker 1: braids inside of people's hair were maps, you know. The
Speaker 1: Negro spirituals you you you sang songs as code for
Speaker 1: when it was time to go. Harriet Tubman when she
Speaker 1: got free, you know, she escaped herself and then decided,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go back and get as many people as
Speaker 1: I can, like this is this is our story. We
Speaker 1: take care of each other. So that's why it's hard
Speaker 1: for us to just write people off to just cancel,
Speaker 1: especially if they're black. It's hard for us because it's like,
Speaker 1: we need to take care of each other. We can't
Speaker 1: let these white people like tell us what to do
Speaker 1: with our folks. But that being said, at some point
Speaker 1: we're like, all right, nigga, you are on your own.
Speaker 1: You have hurt us too much. And I never so
Speaker 1: I didn't want to cover Yea because I still don't
Speaker 1: know how I feel. There are some statements that he
Speaker 1: said are obviously inexcusable, but I just didn't want to
Speaker 1: be a part of that. I want to be a
Speaker 1: part of that conversation. The Kanye stands and I'm done
Speaker 1: with these people. I just don't want to be a
Speaker 1: part of conversation. But Sophie hit me and the good
Speaker 1: folks that it can happen here here and was like, yo, uh,
Speaker 1: we got to talk about this, and I was like,
Speaker 1: all right, I was on the fence. We need to
Speaker 1: talk about it. Yo. Whose man's is this, y'all? Somebody
Speaker 1: come get their boy. So it's a crossover with the
Speaker 1: Tommy Garrison Robert and it could happen here. Team Sharine
Speaker 1: and we discussed this stuff. So dropping in our feed
Speaker 1: and they feed it could happen here politics, that's rock.
Speaker 1: I'm just waiting for Kanye's gnostic phase. That will probably
Speaker 1: be good, a good develop good as soon as it
Speaker 1: starts being Let stop talking about Sophia, And I'm excited
Speaker 1: for when he runs for president uh and then declares
Speaker 1: his opponent to be We were on the same track there.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a good day. Welcome to it could
Speaker 1: happen here. In the podcast, what are we talking about
Speaker 1: Kanye West's inevitable war against the demi urge? Oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: we joined again by Shrine and prop So we just
Speaker 1: talked about kind kanye S history up towards his most
Speaker 1: recent White Lives Matter T shirt stunt and his anti
Speaker 1: semitic posts on Instagram and Twitter dot com. And my
Speaker 1: main interest in the aftermath of these statements is kind
Speaker 1: of mostly how right wing media reacted to what was
Speaker 1: going on in to one of their darling's kind of
Speaker 1: saying some questionable things, and what that might tell us
Speaker 1: about how they'll handle overt anti semitism and fascistic um
Speaker 1: kind of consumerism in the future. I'm going to do
Speaker 1: a quote from New Republic again about what happened in
Speaker 1: the direct aftermath of of Kanye West's posts quote. Fox
Speaker 1: News meanwhile posted an article that West merely had been
Speaker 1: locked out of his account due to an unspecific violation
Speaker 1: of the company's policies. After spending such a fulesome number
Speaker 1: of hours providing him with the platform for his White
Speaker 1: Lives Matter stunt, the network a shewed coverage of his
Speaker 1: anti semitism, other than to point to it as the
Speaker 1: product of mental illness. The effort to sweep the second
Speaker 1: round of nasty bigotry under the rug after celebrating the
Speaker 1: initial outpouring is breathtakingly cynical, but not particularly surprising. The
Speaker 1: fact that West was at least for now d platform
Speaker 1: from social media accounts that he was using to traffic
Speaker 1: hate speech is in itself catnip for far right figures
Speaker 1: and unquote, so many a far right grifter has tried
Speaker 1: to turn this into a free speech issue. Um. However,
Speaker 1: Kanye associate and Fashion Week White Lives Matter buddy Canadas
Speaker 1: Owens tried to deny the anti semitism altogether. Within days
Speaker 1: of his Twitter rant. Candace Owens on her Daily Wire
Speaker 1: podcast was defending Kanye saying quote death Con three should
Speaker 1: be interpreted as a move to protect the Jewish people
Speaker 1: after all, because because because def con is a defensive
Speaker 1: military category, not an offensive military category. See, these are
Speaker 1: the words of a deeply un serious person. Exactly, I'll
Speaker 1: be in a very a very dangerous one, but deeply
Speaker 1: un serious. This is that's this is. It's those things. Okay,
Speaker 1: be conservative, I think, however you want. But it's that
Speaker 1: stuff that is so infuriating to me where I'm like,
Speaker 1: you know, you do not sit across the table from me,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, and it's like, okay, just I
Speaker 1: just like, like break character once, you know, just just
Speaker 1: like no, what did you like? There's no way I
Speaker 1: can't take you. There's no way. You believe that. There's
Speaker 1: no way, Canda, someone has been playing the long game
Speaker 1: for a while, and that kind of reach that that
Speaker 1: reaches a culmination towards the end of this episode, which
Speaker 1: we'll talk about, um, but let's let's let's let's play
Speaker 1: the clip there, because she also does some pretty gross
Speaker 1: anti Semitic kind of defensive stuff as well, talking about
Speaker 1: how you can't say the word Jewish without people getting
Speaker 1: upset if you are an honest person, You did not
Speaker 1: think this tweet was anti semitic. You did not think
Speaker 1: that he wrote this tweek because he hates or wants
Speaker 1: to genocide Jewish people. This is not represent at the
Speaker 1: beginning of the Holocaust. That's if you're an honest person,
Speaker 1: you'll meet that. You'll admit that right. If you're an
Speaker 1: honest person, when you read this tweet, you had no
Speaker 1: idea what the hell he was talking about. I had
Speaker 1: I had no idea when I read this tweet what
Speaker 1: the hell he was talking about. This tweet inspired questions,
Speaker 1: not answers. First and foremost, what is death Con three?
Speaker 1: Did he mean deaf Con three? Which would be a
Speaker 1: military defense position, not an offense for those of you
Speaker 1: that are offended, a military defense position. Is he tweeting
Speaker 1: this because he's reading the newsweek headline calling him an
Speaker 1: anti Semitic? Is he angry because he can't believe that
Speaker 1: he's not free to talk about people in his life
Speaker 1: who happened to be Jewish right without being accused of
Speaker 1: anti Semitism. Is he's saying, I'm not gonna shut up,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna keep tweeting, and I'm gonna keep calling
Speaker 1: these people out referring to his friends that he feels
Speaker 1: slighted by as he talking about Jared Kushner and Josh Krishner.
Speaker 1: If you're a liar, you'll say, I know, I was scared.
Speaker 1: Canis I actually thought that Kanye West was going to
Speaker 1: launch a military strike in Israel? Because that's the reaction.
Speaker 1: Like when I woke up and I looked at the headlines,
Speaker 1: of reaction was like Kanye West had gotten together a
Speaker 1: military strike and it was going to go forward in
Speaker 1: the morning time in Israel. That was that was the
Speaker 1: reaction that was met with this sweek. Now, once again,
Speaker 1: I want to make this very clear. This is not
Speaker 1: a defensive tweet. This is an open question which never
Speaker 1: seems to happen anymore. It's like you cannot even say
Speaker 1: the word Jewish without people getting upsets in the same
Speaker 1: way you're not allowed to say black anymore. So there
Speaker 1: is definitely a lot in that clip. Um, I guess
Speaker 1: first off, we can talk about talking about the tweet
Speaker 1: as simply asking questions about Jewish people. It's like you're
Speaker 1: you're just like directly doing the Jewish question, Like what
Speaker 1: you can't frame this just ask like you're just asking
Speaker 1: questions about Jewish people. Really, and then and and then
Speaker 1: Owens tries to link this to like a Zionist position,
Speaker 1: implying that attacks on Jewish people and anti Semitism are
Speaker 1: only legitimate if they're they're in the form of a
Speaker 1: military action against the nation of Israel, which is not
Speaker 1: how anti Semitism operates. That's like, that's just that's just
Speaker 1: that's just not what that is. Like, that's it's it's
Speaker 1: it's pretty gross again. Just it's it's the same daily
Speaker 1: wire racism denying stick by you know, it's it's a
Speaker 1: it's a it's the same thing they do by saying
Speaker 1: racism doesn't exist anymore because they're not racist law is
Speaker 1: in America, which first of all isn't even true. But
Speaker 1: second of all, that's not what racism is. Like that
Speaker 1: that even if there weren't racist laws, that doesn't mean
Speaker 1: there's no racism. Um man, she like the man, it's like,
Speaker 1: like I'm trying to put my words together, because there's
Speaker 1: a certain type of like sinisterness. Yeah, it's a type
Speaker 1: of Yeah, it's a type they're both deeply un serious,
Speaker 1: but it's also like explicitly complicit in the in the
Speaker 1: like the rise of far right Christian fascism, like it's
Speaker 1: it's it's so absurd, but in a very dark way,
Speaker 1: like it's it's it's. Yeah. I heard Kanye this morning.
Speaker 1: This is what days of October October a clip from
Speaker 1: Pierce Morgan no less, like trying to call him on
Speaker 1: his anti Semitism and yeah, just like I know we're
Speaker 1: talking about candidates, but it's like it's in the same
Speaker 1: vein of like, ain't no way you believe is is
Speaker 1: in in that He was like, listen, I apologize. I
Speaker 1: was talking about my experience in the music industry, which
Speaker 1: is a verifiable fact ran by Jews. And I was like,
Speaker 1: you bro, you ain't no way, ain't no way, and
Speaker 1: just areak character like Alex Jones broke character before, like
Speaker 1: uh was Tuck Across in both character Tuck Across and
Speaker 1: in court was like this entertainment, don't take me serious,
Speaker 1: you know, just like let me have that moment where
Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, at least be honest with what I'm
Speaker 1: dealing with here, Just break character like this, Just give
Speaker 1: me that at least I know what I'm dealing with. No, Yeah,
Speaker 1: like saying this is an open question, you cannot say
Speaker 1: the word Jewish that people are getting upset, like you
Speaker 1: know what you're doing, you know exactly what and with
Speaker 1: the with the after the like death calm three tweets
Speaker 1: follow up implying that Jewish people emitted cancel culture, like
Speaker 1: Robert said, directly referenced that that's that is just directly
Speaker 1: ripped from like Nazi theory um like it's it's it's
Speaker 1: so blatant. Like even even Cannice Owens boss Ben Shapiro
Speaker 1: had to acknowledge that Kanye's tweets were anti Semitic. He
Speaker 1: he made He made a tweet saying back from the
Speaker 1: Jewish Holiday now, which don't like Ben Shapiro, I know
Speaker 1: what you're doing. I know what you're calling it to
Speaker 1: the Jewish holiday. Fuck you back from the Jewish Holiday now.
Speaker 1: As usual, two things can be true at once. Kanye's
Speaker 1: moves towards pro life faith and family conservatism are encouraging
Speaker 1: his death com three posts and black Hebrew is the
Speaker 1: Light Language are clearly anti Semitic and disturbing. It's like
Speaker 1: Ben Shapiro, like the more this is, this is, this
Speaker 1: is this, This is basically Ben Shapiro saying the more
Speaker 1: he agrees with me, the more he becomes an Nazi.
Speaker 1: But I'm sure this is just a coincidence, which which
Speaker 1: I did steal from. I did steal that from someone
Speaker 1: on Twitter, so wes um, Well, thanks gonna be true? Look, look,
Speaker 1: both things, both things canna be Let's say that you
Speaker 1: all right? Um, I'm gonna do I'm gonna do a
Speaker 1: brief tangent on this guy named Jason Woodlock. So Woodlock
Speaker 1: is a sports journalist and podcaster who hosts the show
Speaker 1: Fearless Soldiers on Glenn Beck's Blaze Media, where he quote
Speaker 1: protects the realm of common sense and challenges the group
Speaker 1: think mandated by elites um and he has like over
Speaker 1: half a million followers on Twitter dot com. He made
Speaker 1: a series of not great statements that are still up
Speaker 1: and went extremely viral with a lot of likes, UM saying,
Speaker 1: quote Kanye West and Dave Chappelle, is there a pattern
Speaker 1: the industry wants both of them canceled? Black efforts and
Speaker 1: comedians are free to denigrate to black people and white
Speaker 1: men a million different ways, but there's a line they
Speaker 1: better not cross, and everyone knows it. I wonder, I
Speaker 1: wonder what he's saying. I wonder what he's implying there.
Speaker 1: The conflation of this is actually also as person a
Speaker 1: member of the black community car carrying that is that
Speaker 1: is frustrating, and that we do need to talk about,
Speaker 1: you know, among ourselves, like what is acceptable in terms
Speaker 1: of how we speak about our own women, how we
Speaker 1: speak about you know, our fellow brothers and sisters in
Speaker 1: the world. That is something that needs to be discussed.
Speaker 1: But you don't get to call it at you know.
Speaker 1: So Jason Jason is black, but he similarly works for
Speaker 1: a far right media company. Um, I'm gonna give you.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you a phrase and you could use
Speaker 1: this later. Okay, I'm pretty sure Serene knows it too.
Speaker 1: It's all scan folk and king folk. So just and
Speaker 1: what he's talking about here, saying that there's there's there's
Speaker 1: a you're you're free to you know, talk about, you know,
Speaker 1: bad things that black people and white people have done.
Speaker 1: The line that you better not cross. He's he's obviously
Speaker 1: talking about Jewish people. Um, someone some of someone asking him, Hey,
Speaker 1: what's what is this line? And then Jason posted you
Speaker 1: can't question black entertainers unhealthy relationship with non religious Jewish
Speaker 1: power brokers in Hollywood. Yeah okay, yeah uh he this
Speaker 1: this was obviously called out as being extremely anti Semitic
Speaker 1: um which then he replied, you think I have a
Speaker 1: problem with people who speak a Semitic language, Not true.
Speaker 1: I have a problem with the secular culture, particularly Hollywood's
Speaker 1: promotion of it and black celebrities embrace of it. I
Speaker 1: believe those celebs have an unhealthy partnership with non religious
Speaker 1: Jewish people. Which is that was a dance again, this
Speaker 1: is this is just exactly you're just doing anti semitism
Speaker 1: Like you can't. You can't, like it's not about speaking
Speaker 1: of a Semitic language, and you know that, like you
Speaker 1: know this, You're man, You're you're just doing a bit
Speaker 1: like and here's what's crazy, Like you know, in in
Speaker 1: my early days of like moving into more like activist
Speaker 1: kind of justice circles and and for real, like even
Speaker 1: in some of the like church spaces I was in
Speaker 1: because again I grew up in like a very different
Speaker 1: church tradition than the rest of these foods, is that
Speaker 1: the Jewish community was, in a lot of ways upheld
Speaker 1: as an example for us in that like, look, they
Speaker 1: don't let nobody talk about nobody. They don't let they
Speaker 1: don't they don't let it ride. You're not allowed to talk.
Speaker 1: And they were like, we need to be like that.
Speaker 1: They were like the way that, the way that, like,
Speaker 1: look they come in they said, up their community. They
Speaker 1: they keep their money within their community, like their dollars
Speaker 1: circulated around that and when you look at like statistics,
Speaker 1: they were saying among the black communities, like a dollar,
Speaker 1: you know, a dollar only circulates once through our community,
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, And like I don't have the numbers right,
Speaker 1: but they were saying, like within the Jewish community, that
Speaker 1: dollar goes around like fifty six seventy eight times because
Speaker 1: they support each other, you know. And they were like
Speaker 1: that's something that as black people, we need to start
Speaker 1: learning how to do, like yo, stop being crabs in
Speaker 1: the bucket, like support each other. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Man learned from their community, you know, learned from the
Speaker 1: fact that, like you know, they keep their narrative alive.
Speaker 1: They don't allow oppression to happen to them. They they
Speaker 1: stuck together, how they've accrued wealth. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I don't know how healthy this understanding is but I'm
Speaker 1: saying that's what we saw, like look at how they
Speaker 1: accrued wealth, like learned from them, you know. So so
Speaker 1: when it when when you hear it coming out of
Speaker 1: a black entertainer's mouth, something antis, it just it grates
Speaker 1: even more because you just like, man, what like I
Speaker 1: think one of the acts of that, which we're actually
Speaker 1: gonna get to in a bit, is some of that
Speaker 1: kind of admiration can be a double edged sword though
Speaker 1: it is. That's what I'm saying, Like I don't know
Speaker 1: how healthy it is, Like that's what we were taught. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but like like like what you said about like there
Speaker 1: you know how a dollar circulates way more. You see
Speaker 1: Kanye later starting to use some of that rhetoric in
Speaker 1: terms of promoting Jewish people as like controllers of financial engineering,
Speaker 1: like you see that type of you see that bridge.
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about that like in a sect. Also
Speaker 1: quick piece of history about Jewish Jewish people in banking,
Speaker 1: which it's ill like they as a people got into that.
Speaker 1: They were basically they were forced to because they weren't
Speaker 1: allowed farmland, like you weren't allowed to farm. So they're like, well,
Speaker 1: we gotta find a job. Somehow, let's do banking, you maddice.
Speaker 1: They're good at it, like you know, I mean, I mean,
Speaker 1: like this is this part that's like really can't. I'm like,
Speaker 1: you know why, you know why jazz exists? Segregation, naked racism,
Speaker 1: that's why blues. Why is there hip hop? Because sep
Speaker 1: sect Like we did something with the trash you gave us,
Speaker 1: Like so I think that, yeah, anyway, segregation made that happen.
Speaker 1: I'm going to read a quote from Yah Rosenberg. Quote
Speaker 1: cos tweets exemplify why anti Semitism is so hard to uproot.
Speaker 1: It's a self affirming conspiracy theory. The ant the anti
Speaker 1: Semite claims that Jews control everything. Then if they're penalized
Speaker 1: for their bigotry, they point to that as proof. Heads
Speaker 1: they win, tails Jews lose. Kanye posted his second tweet
Speaker 1: before the First World was taken down, perfectly demonstrating how
Speaker 1: the Jews control everything is a preemptive anti Semitic defense
Speaker 1: against consequences for expressing anti Semitism. It's a common misconception
Speaker 1: that anti Semitism is just a personal prejudice against Jewish people.
Speaker 1: It's not. It's also a conspiracy theory about how the
Speaker 1: entire world works, which is why it ropes in conspiracy
Speaker 1: theorists from all ideologies and all backgrounds. It creates this
Speaker 1: antagonizing catch twenty two for Jews when confronted with anti Semitism.
Speaker 1: If we say nothing, the hatred spreads unchecked. If we
Speaker 1: say something and it results in any consequences for the
Speaker 1: anti Semite, the bigot just uses that as proof of
Speaker 1: their anti Semitic worldview. So that's a good kind of
Speaker 1: one oh one explainer on how this kind of whole
Speaker 1: thing operates. You know, talking about Jewish power brokers in
Speaker 1: Hollywood and people called out on that, They're like, oh see,
Speaker 1: this is an example of them trying to silence the truth,
Speaker 1: and you know, all of this type of ship. Um.
Speaker 1: The one super interesting thing that has happened since all
Speaker 1: of these tweets and the actor math and stuff has
Speaker 1: has has happened is that we got some leaked video
Speaker 1: from the Tucker Carlson and con Gae video. So this
Speaker 1: is this, this, this is this is fascinating. Um. So
Speaker 1: Vice Vices Motherboard obtained footage of Kanye making big need
Speaker 1: statements about Utish people and bizarre clams about fake children
Speaker 1: as well as describing visions of connecting of kinetic energy
Speaker 1: cities sent to him by God. And uh, we're not
Speaker 1: sure how Vice got these unaired clips, but we have
Speaker 1: them and they're extremely fascinating both on for like what
Speaker 1: Kanye is doing and how he made these statements before
Speaker 1: his tweets. Um. Also it's interesting on like what Tucker
Speaker 1: is doing, like your explicitly obfus skating direct anti Semitism
Speaker 1: but still allowing the dog whistles to be to be present.
Speaker 1: Um So Inside their interview that that did air, Carlson
Speaker 1: and Kanye together outlined some of Fox's favorite boogeyman from
Speaker 1: the Clinton's COVID restrictions, cancel culture and liberal elites. But
Speaker 1: what Fox left on the cutting room floor is just
Speaker 1: as revealing. The Tucker Carlson Tonight's team decided to edit
Speaker 1: out a clip of Kanye saying that he's vaccinated against
Speaker 1: COVID nineteen, which is okay yeah. In a segment talking
Speaker 1: about black genocide and planned parenthood, they edited out Kanye's
Speaker 1: statements about the lost twelve tribes of Judah. Planned parenthood
Speaker 1: was made by Margaret Sanger, a known eugenics with the
Speaker 1: KKK two control the jew population. When I say ju,
Speaker 1: I mean the twelve Lost Tribes of Judah, the Blood
Speaker 1: of Christ. Who the race the people known as the
Speaker 1: race black really are? This is who are people are
Speaker 1: the Blood of Christ. This as a Christian is my belief.
Speaker 1: So inside the television broadcast, it has it has those
Speaker 1: parts about planned parenthood and the KKK, but then after
Speaker 1: he mentions the KKK, it cuts three seconds ahead, so
Speaker 1: it skips over all that stuff around Jews and the
Speaker 1: lost twelve Tribes of Judah, which kind of get that
Speaker 1: is that is some of the type of black Hebrew
Speaker 1: Israel stuff that Robert and prop we're talking about in
Speaker 1: the previous episode, how they're they're one of the lost
Speaker 1: tribes who went south. Um. So that that is that.
Speaker 1: But it's interesting, so like he's directly talking about that
Speaker 1: way before his tweets that Tucker just completely edited out
Speaker 1: now on the on the planned parenthood point. So Sanger
Speaker 1: was indeed a racist and the genesist um a stance
Speaker 1: that the Planned Parenthood organization has since like obviously denounced um.
Speaker 1: But you know, claims about Planned Parenthood specifically operating to
Speaker 1: kill unborn black babies are just common rhetoric in the
Speaker 1: pro life like circles and conspiracy spaces. It's not that
Speaker 1: that part is not really true, but it is a
Speaker 1: very common talking point that Margaret Sanger point is is
Speaker 1: something that like, yeah, you know, even I like in
Speaker 1: my sort of you know, evolution of the way I
Speaker 1: think and feel and believe. You know, I'm the child
Speaker 1: of a black panther, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: so like when you you you hear things about eugenics
Speaker 1: and Margaret Sanger in the connection to planing aired but
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, well, yeah, no, that stuff is evil,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Um, and you know, obviously
Speaker 1: I I'm a I'm assist gendered male, you know. So
Speaker 1: there there's definitely holes in the story of understanding the
Speaker 1: complications of what it means, what abortion and reproductive rights mean,
Speaker 1: because I just I didn't know, you know. And uh,
Speaker 1: but as you you know, grow mature, travel for me,
Speaker 1: like the the biggest the biggest change in my thinking
Speaker 1: has been travel and relationships and just you know what
Speaker 1: I used to say reading off the Naughty List, you know, uh,
Speaker 1: and you start understanding those complications. But yeah, that was
Speaker 1: like that that Margaret sanger note is a note that's
Speaker 1: hit often, you know, and it becomes very difficult until
Speaker 1: you're like so you till you until you in the situation,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and like you are like, look,
Speaker 1: this is this is this is affordable healthcare and it's
Speaker 1: right down the street, you know, And when you're in
Speaker 1: that situation, it's like again, like all the boogeyman's and
Speaker 1: all the stories and all the warnings, all of it
Speaker 1: falls apart, you know, once you actually see this stuff
Speaker 1: in practice. So yeah, that but that that market saying
Speaker 1: well I was it. That's a tough pill to swallow.
Speaker 1: And the Planned Parent Organization has spent a long time
Speaker 1: trying to amend for their for their like an initial
Speaker 1: inclination and some of the like you genicists starting points
Speaker 1: that that they had and making sure that they're not
Speaker 1: they're not you know, continuing in that oh yeah, and
Speaker 1: like and like actually addressing like hey, is is the
Speaker 1: locations of our clinics specifically geared towards like being in
Speaker 1: more targeted communities where it's like lower class and people
Speaker 1: of color as opposed to white, affluent communities. And they
Speaker 1: have they have taken steps to actually like make sure
Speaker 1: that they're planning of clinics and locations is not it's
Speaker 1: not oversaturated in Yeah. And that being said, I'm like
Speaker 1: white communities they got healthcare, so it's like there was
Speaker 1: a different story, you know what I'm saying. It's like,
Speaker 1: you go where it's needed. I'm like, I ain't got
Speaker 1: no healthcare over here. That's why they here, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, this isn't obviously, this isn't a planned parenthood
Speaker 1: stand video or podcast. But at the same time, I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: of course they got their problems, like every other organization
Speaker 1: got their problems. But like the idea that there's this
Speaker 1: like sinister plot, you know, is clearly the rantings of
Speaker 1: someone who is not well. It does it's it is parenting,
Speaker 1: just conspiracy talking points at this point, the way the
Speaker 1: way he doesn't, the way he's doing. And in one
Speaker 1: of the more blatantly anti semitic sections that were that
Speaker 1: was edited out, Kanye complains about Kwanza being taught to
Speaker 1: his kids in school and and and says that he
Speaker 1: would prefer his kids learned Hanaka because it comes with
Speaker 1: financial engineering. Was biting my tongue on my political opinion
Speaker 1: because I thought it would be better for my children.
Speaker 1: And now you look up and my kids are going
Speaker 1: to a school that teaches black kids a complicated kwanza.
Speaker 1: I prefer my kids new hanaka the kwanza. At least
Speaker 1: it will come with some financial engineering. I'm sorry what wait?
Speaker 1: I mean? This is? This is this type of thing,
Speaker 1: like you should learn from the Jews because they're good
Speaker 1: at controlling money. Like yeah, it makes me feel like
Speaker 1: he purposely tweeted that stuff because it was cut out,
Speaker 1: like because like maybe uthering his idea of being I mean,
Speaker 1: I think I think he tweeted that stuff out. He
Speaker 1: tweeted that he tweeted up on Twitter in response to
Speaker 1: him getting banned on Instagram, and the stuff on Instagram
Speaker 1: was directly against a rapper who was calling him out
Speaker 1: on his ship. UM. I don't know if Kanye watched
Speaker 1: the Tucker Carlson interview. I don't know. Um. And then,
Speaker 1: in one of the more bizarre things that he said,
Speaker 1: Kanye West talked about a so called fake child that
Speaker 1: had been planted in his home, including he went into
Speaker 1: explicit detail talking about the child's name and the parents name.
Speaker 1: And this this video clip was not posted to protect
Speaker 1: the family's privacy. Um, but he went into great detail,
Speaker 1: and we have some we have some like transcripts saying
Speaker 1: I actors, professional actors placed into my house to sexualize
Speaker 1: my kids. He he He referred to the so called
Speaker 1: son of an associate, seemingly implying that the child was fake,
Speaker 1: saying that we we we we did not believe that
Speaker 1: the person was her son because he was way smarter
Speaker 1: than her. Um, and he it's it's the this is
Speaker 1: like the most clear example of the ramblings of someone
Speaker 1: who like isn't okay, Like it's like like someone having
Speaker 1: a mental health episode. Like. He has spoken frequently about
Speaker 1: living with bipolar disorder and experiencing manic episodes. In twenty nineteen,
Speaker 1: he discussed how experiences these with David Letterman, saying, quote,
Speaker 1: when you're in the state, you're hyper apparently about everything
Speaker 1: and everyone in my experience, other people have different experiences.
Speaker 1: You know, everyone is now an actor, Everything is now
Speaker 1: a conspiracy unquote. This is what's happening. You're thinking everyone's
Speaker 1: an actor and everyone's conspiracy. You're really I mean, you
Speaker 1: can look at gang stocking, which is probably an expression
Speaker 1: of people having schizophrenic episodes. Where people believe that, like
Speaker 1: crowds of just random folks on the street are like
Speaker 1: part of an organized stocking thing, or just there's these
Speaker 1: One kind of common thing that happens in psychotic episodes
Speaker 1: for some people is a belief that their loved ones,
Speaker 1: their spouse, or whatever has been replaced by someone who
Speaker 1: looks exactly the sin. There's also certain kinds of like
Speaker 1: we call that. We call that Nathan Fielder syndrome. I
Speaker 1: was going to say that, but I didn't want to
Speaker 1: drag hive it to this. It's I mean, it's one
Speaker 1: of those This is I don't know how you actually
Speaker 1: would ever study this, but I think one of the
Speaker 1: major problems are our civilization has that might actually end
Speaker 1: us is the fact that every mental illness on the
Speaker 1: planet is vastly exacerbated by the person having a lot
Speaker 1: of money, which also happens to make it virtually impossible
Speaker 1: to treat because no one around you will admit that
Speaker 1: anything's wrong. And this again might someday, combined with the
Speaker 1: fact that we have an addiction on this planet to
Speaker 1: handing a single individual the keys to a nuclear stockpile,
Speaker 1: this might all end in really badly for everybody, and
Speaker 1: when you're one of those famous people in the world,
Speaker 1: you constantly feel like you're being gang stocked because you
Speaker 1: are yes, like watching you like like it's it's not
Speaker 1: humans weren't designed to reach that level of fame. That's
Speaker 1: not something that we'd like developed it Like, that's that's
Speaker 1: you should that should not be possible. Our brains are
Speaker 1: not a up for it. Yeah, And then I feel
Speaker 1: like it's like they get affirmed in that belief because
Speaker 1: a lot of people do rely on them and maybe
Speaker 1: they're mania to like make sure they get paid or
Speaker 1: make sure like their family. Absolutely they're being Yeah, you're
Speaker 1: being you know. I like I have a small list
Speaker 1: of like actual like a list like celebrity friends who
Speaker 1: have been you know who are like for real celebrities.
Speaker 1: And also like yeah, my uh, my last accountant stole
Speaker 1: two hundred thousand dollars from me, Like and I didn't
Speaker 1: even know, you know, uh, this person, you know, I
Speaker 1: had this person on tour with me and you know
Speaker 1: they robbed this guy robbed the opener, Like just all
Speaker 1: these like stories to where you're like, well, yeah, the
Speaker 1: people you do have around you, So even if you
Speaker 1: didn't have mental health issues, you would get paranoid. You
Speaker 1: would still get paranoid. Yeah, it's for example, to get paranoid.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it's I yeah, all of it's all
Speaker 1: of this is very obvious as a problem. But and
Speaker 1: what's unsettling to me, Sorry, I just want to say
Speaker 1: really quickly, one of the things that the fact that Kanye,
Speaker 1: as you you pointed out years earlier, very astutely talked
Speaker 1: about the things that happened to him when he is
Speaker 1: having an episode in a very lucid way, makes me
Speaker 1: wonder and maybe this is a little conspiratorial where they
Speaker 1: are people listening who are like, well, shit, if we
Speaker 1: can just play into that stuff, we might be able
Speaker 1: to get him to we might be able to push
Speaker 1: him in whatever direction we want. Because there's definitely a
Speaker 1: whole bunch of people. I mean, I can totally see
Speaker 1: Kendae someone's doing that because because she's she's been playing
Speaker 1: him like a fiddle for a long time, and that's
Speaker 1: a long time that's gonna reach a tipping point at
Speaker 1: the end, at the end, end end of this episode.
Speaker 1: So one one could ask, how could you be so heartless?
Speaker 1: How could you be so it wasn't how could you
Speaker 1: be there evil? But also I didn't get that along
Speaker 1: the same thread of a tortured artist thinking they have
Speaker 1: to be depressed, yes, make art. I think there's an
Speaker 1: element of that even for Kanye, Like I don't think,
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it was if he's medicated or not,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like I think he is.
Speaker 1: He has said that sometimes he goes auf medication. Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: you know, and I and yeah, the tortured artist thing.
Speaker 1: I know some like New York Times bestsellers authors who
Speaker 1: are like, yes, I know I'm bipolar, and I know
Speaker 1: when I have to write this book, I'm going to
Speaker 1: get off these pills. I'm going to write it in
Speaker 1: in two days. I'm going to turn in. That's that's
Speaker 1: made worse by people like tying, like people in doing
Speaker 1: my research for this episode, a lot of people talk
Speaker 1: to us in person and like talk about like his genius,
Speaker 1: And I think this idea of his genius mixed in
Speaker 1: with his mental state can create a really volatile reaction
Speaker 1: someone's brain when they feel like certain altered states of
Speaker 1: consciousness are what makes you have your genius. And that's
Speaker 1: really the way people have talked about this to Conning
Speaker 1: in person. I think it's really unhealthy. Yeah. I would
Speaker 1: argue that telling a child they're a genius is abusive,
Speaker 1: and it's probably true for telling an adult. It's one
Speaker 1: of the worst things you can ever tell anybody. Don't don't,
Speaker 1: No one's a genius. Stop using that word. It's poison.
Speaker 1: You think your illness is your genius? Yeah, going back
Speaker 1: to this, like to these leaked unused Tucker Carlson videos,
Speaker 1: something like this in a better world would like completely
Speaker 1: tank Tucker forever. Like, yeah, it should, But none of
Speaker 1: that matters because in any other yeah, in any other universe,
Speaker 1: at that point you should be like, yo, we gotta
Speaker 1: stop the cameras man. No, yeah, Yeah. This leak reveals
Speaker 1: unequivocally how Carlson uses this form to sanitize anti Semitism
Speaker 1: and other conspiracy theories for a general audience. Carlson cuts
Speaker 1: out just enough to claim plausible deniability. This will not
Speaker 1: impact him professionally at all. Um, he makes his he
Speaker 1: makes a living manipulating people on Fox News. Um, this
Speaker 1: should tank him. It won't, but it does reveal how
Speaker 1: he works with extreme clarity, having these behind the scenes
Speaker 1: glimpses and then Also having having the added context of
Speaker 1: these cut segments also shines a light on some of
Speaker 1: the more dog whistle the aspects that did make it
Speaker 1: into the aired interview. Uh like this bit that started
Speaker 1: with that that that that started with Kanye talking about
Speaker 1: his grievances with Jared Kushner, you know, or he made
Speaker 1: these peace treaties? Where was that? Do you know the
Speaker 1: facts on this right here? So I'm like, well, I
Speaker 1: think that was between Israel and some of the Arab nations.
Speaker 1: I just think it was to make money. I don't know,
Speaker 1: is that is that too heavy handed to put in
Speaker 1: this platform? No, that's that's your opinion. We're not in
Speaker 1: a censorship business, thank you. And I just think that
Speaker 1: that's what they're about, is making money. I don't think
Speaker 1: that they have the ability to make anything on their own.
Speaker 1: I think they were born into money. So when Kanye
Speaker 1: said I don't think they have the ability to make
Speaker 1: anything on their own and talking about, you know, peace
Speaker 1: treatise with the intention to make money, Carlson knew that
Speaker 1: Kanye was just talking about like the Jews, Like that's
Speaker 1: like he he knew that's what was going on and
Speaker 1: decided to keep those dog whistling aspects. It's yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm going to quote from a lad near ry. This
Speaker 1: provides uncontrovertible proof that Carlson knew Kanye was being anti
Speaker 1: Semitic during the interview. In other words, Tucker Carlson and
Speaker 1: his team purposely edited their footage to make Kanye's comments
Speaker 1: into a dog whistle instead of a foghorn. He purposely
Speaker 1: coded Kanye's anti semitism. Carlson knows how to spread anti
Speaker 1: semitism while avoid getting called out. He did it here.
Speaker 1: This itself should be far bigger scandal than anything Condie
Speaker 1: has said. Carlson knowingly spreaded this code anti semitism and
Speaker 1: knowingly kept the anti semitism that he knew he wouldn't
Speaker 1: get called out on, and knowingly cut the part that
Speaker 1: he knew would get him in trouble. Carlson has spent
Speaker 1: has spent years spreading anti Semitic conspiracy theories, from a
Speaker 1: full documentary about George Sorrows destroying Western civilization to multiple
Speaker 1: uses of the Great Replacement conspiracy theory, to anti Semitic
Speaker 1: guests talking about globalist elites ruling in d C. This
Speaker 1: is who Tucker Carlson is America's leading purveyor of mainstream
Speaker 1: anti Semitism. He also showed everybody the the ultra light
Speaker 1: beam to the genitals. He did one of good things
Speaker 1: and it was more based moments. That was pretty Uh
Speaker 1: that was the thing. I was like, all right, man,
Speaker 1: okay did genital tannin? Got it? Uh? But yeah, that's
Speaker 1: his that's his particular Like mutant power is saying something
Speaker 1: without saying something, and all of us know what you're saying,
Speaker 1: but you ain't say it. So when I go, what
Speaker 1: then did you just say? You could say? What are
Speaker 1: you talking about? Nothing? You know it? I mean he's
Speaker 1: got I mean he's he's the Picasso. It at like
Speaker 1: just and it's and it's so inferiorating and speaking of
Speaker 1: kind of dog whistles and stuff, similar to Kanye has
Speaker 1: been about the Jews creating canceler culture by doing the whole.
Speaker 1: I don't think they have the ability to make anything
Speaker 1: on their own statement. Kanye isn't playing another kind of
Speaker 1: classic an anti Semitic trope that or that originates with
Speaker 1: Nazi propaganda. Um that you know, Jews are incapable of
Speaker 1: physical labor or making things. This comes up a lot.
Speaker 1: In the nineteen forty Nazi propaganda film The Eternal Jew,
Speaker 1: one of the most vile films ever, made a quote
Speaker 1: from Mike Rothschild, so and now, I I don't think
Speaker 1: Kanye Kandie is not seeing the Eternal Jew. All the
Speaker 1: only people most weird not see nerds who referenced the
Speaker 1: Eternal Jew haven't seen the Eternal Jew. Like But but
Speaker 1: the point is that you don't need to see it.
Speaker 1: These these these stereotypes are so ingrained to how many
Speaker 1: people see Jewish people that there's things that you can
Speaker 1: believe without the slightest consideration or like a deep thought. Well,
Speaker 1: and they were, you know, the The Eternal Jew was
Speaker 1: influential in anti Semitic propaganda, but a lot of what
Speaker 1: it was doing was kind of codifying, almost, if you will,
Speaker 1: the most popular stereotypes and racialist attacks of the day.
Speaker 1: Like it. It didn't invent stuff so much as it
Speaker 1: was like, all right, we're going to we're going to
Speaker 1: boil it all down in kind of the most iconic form. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's house today years old. I had no idea what
Speaker 1: you sum up, uh, But but I can see how
Speaker 1: that concept has such source material because as somebody who you, oh,
Speaker 1: I have just anti Semitism is just has never been
Speaker 1: on the menu for me. Um. Some of the the
Speaker 1: tropes that come with that, in my mind seems so
Speaker 1: bizarre from like what are you talking what did that
Speaker 1: come from? What did you talking about? They did what? Now?
Speaker 1: You know? So like someone like so to know that, like,
Speaker 1: well there is source material, there's there's stuff that comes
Speaker 1: from it comes from this time. It was because it
Speaker 1: is because this was like an intentional thing that people
Speaker 1: have been pushing towards for hundreds of years, like this
Speaker 1: is it's it's yes, this didn't just happen, this is
Speaker 1: like people are trying to make this a reality like
Speaker 1: it's it's it has been a propaganda project and a
Speaker 1: hate campaign that's been genocidal for hundreds of years. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because I'm like okay, you know at sometimes okay, I'm
Speaker 1: trying to say what up? Let me try figure out
Speaker 1: what I'm trying to SA. Sometimes you can track yeah,
Speaker 1: like the protocols, Like the protocols. I was like, until
Speaker 1: you understand those protocols, Like some of the anti Semitic
Speaker 1: thought and rhetoric is like, man, what are you talking about?
Speaker 1: Like what you know, text like that don't just like
Speaker 1: pop into existence. Someone wrote that with a specific intent,
Speaker 1: with an intent for something. But what I'm the point
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get at is like there are some
Speaker 1: racist sentiments and tropes that I I'm following your logic
Speaker 1: as to why you're saying that about them, Like, clearly
Speaker 1: it's a racist shrope. But black men are violent, And
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, okay, I mean, if all you know
Speaker 1: of us is gang violence, if that's all you've seen,
Speaker 1: and I'm following your logic, you've just never been exposing
Speaker 1: any other stuff. Now, once you get exposing and stuff,
Speaker 1: you still feel like that. It's like, all right, you
Speaker 1: just you just trash, You just you just trash. But
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm following, I'm following you. You know what
Speaker 1: I mean. You only know rap music, Okay, that's all
Speaker 1: you know of us? Okay, then you think that this
Speaker 1: is what we all are racist because clearly most people
Speaker 1: are more than everybody's more than the one thing you're
Speaker 1: trying to put them in, you know, But I'm following that.
Speaker 1: It's just for me again, like I said, since like
Speaker 1: anti Semitism was never on the menu, like it was
Speaker 1: never just it just wasn't a part of my world.
Speaker 1: When you hear things like the Protocols of Zion and
Speaker 1: and some of this stuff, even even learning about the Holocaust,
Speaker 1: Like if you're a black person, you like, what's your deal?
Speaker 1: Like why what what you? What is so wrong with them?
Speaker 1: Like I don't understand why you don't like them so much?
Speaker 1: Like it it's just it's like I can't even follow
Speaker 1: your logic, you know, because it's not even personal hatred
Speaker 1: of all people, right, It's it's framed within this conspiratorial thing.
Speaker 1: But like, no, I don't hate Jewish people. I'm just
Speaker 1: questioning the Jewish power brokers in Hollywood, and I think
Speaker 1: that they have too much influence. Right, That's how it's framed,
Speaker 1: and that's how people That's how someone like Kandie might
Speaker 1: actually like might actually feel because he works in Hollywood.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, but but that but that is the only
Speaker 1: way you get there is because of decades of anti Semitism.
Speaker 1: Like that, that's it's it's it's it's that's that's the
Speaker 1: kind of point I was trying. Yeah, J k Rowling,
Speaker 1: Banker Goblins didn't just like exists by itself exactly like nothing.
Speaker 1: None of these things are made in a vacuum. They
Speaker 1: thought of that to you said it, oh ship, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a start of David on the floor of the bank.
Speaker 1: I didn't even notice it. That the point out it's yeah, one.
Speaker 1: I mean, one of the things people will point out
Speaker 1: that is true is that that was not a set.
Speaker 1: They were filming in an actual building and they chose
Speaker 1: to have that there, and and the building had a
Speaker 1: star of David in the floor and they chose to
Speaker 1: film there. Yes, it seems like that would have been
Speaker 1: something people might have noticed, Yeah, at least somebody who
Speaker 1: had not even over it, not even just like yo yo,
Speaker 1: maybe maybe listen, maybe we don't mean anything by it,
Speaker 1: but it could be seen as you know, yeah, and
Speaker 1: just like just like, none of these things that are
Speaker 1: in a vacuum, and Kanye's own statements are not in
Speaker 1: a vacuum. After Kanye made these tweets, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: fourth Chan was quick to take it, was quick to
Speaker 1: eat up the Kanye pill. There Kanye Kanye threads took
Speaker 1: up of took up most of polls posts for for days.
Speaker 1: There's there's just there's screenshots of of poll just Kanye
Speaker 1: post after Kanye post, all of all of the trending
Speaker 1: ones are all about Kanye uh. Nick Frentz and his
Speaker 1: like Graper followers were celebrating the tweets and they see
Speaker 1: this as an opportunity took on a mainstream you know
Speaker 1: there their brand of horrible anti Semitic fascism um, and
Speaker 1: I hope people are prepared to take on you know,
Speaker 1: fake Kanye stand accounts that are gonna pop up everywhere
Speaker 1: to defending it any semitism, you know, and defending and
Speaker 1: talking about anti Semitism from the point of quote unquote
Speaker 1: being a Kanye fan. It's there's a lot of Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was like, we've been a lot of fascist trolling
Speaker 1: is gonna it's gonna come in the mask of Kanye
Speaker 1: West now. And we have been Yeah, we've I mean,
Speaker 1: we've been enduring among black Twitter. We have been enduring
Speaker 1: Kanye stands for a while. You know what I'm saying
Speaker 1: that are just like, no, you're just a genius. You
Speaker 1: don't understand he's playing three D. We've been enduring this
Speaker 1: for a while. It's actually been very interesting in the
Speaker 1: sphere of the Internet. I existed of seeing people being
Speaker 1: like uh, yeah, no, I got nothing. Yeah, there has
Speaker 1: been a good amount of people that are finally tapped out.
Speaker 1: And I think, well, I think, what does that type
Speaker 1: of vacuum opens up space for bad actors to use
Speaker 1: the mask of Kanye to then just promote fascism under
Speaker 1: under this mask now like Trump? Sure, I mean like,
Speaker 1: and I think this creates a more specific type of
Speaker 1: dog whistle think because Mega's obviously way more way more broad.
Speaker 1: I meant, like like Kanye's use of as absolutely, I mean,
Speaker 1: we have you know, Nick Frentees posted the tweets and
Speaker 1: his in his telegrams saying no way, we are so back.
Speaker 1: Do you trust the plan? Baked Alaska? Do you trust
Speaker 1: the plan? Baked Alaska posted his telegram this is real
Speaker 1: vindicated and one of my least favorite telegram channels zoomer Waffen,
Speaker 1: which god, just god, it's called every every time I
Speaker 1: talked about Zoomerwaffen, I like, I lose five years of life.
Speaker 1: So people again, because folks who are not terminally online
Speaker 1: or like, what are you guys talking about? Waffen means
Speaker 1: weapon in German. The reason that it is a thing
Speaker 1: the Nazis talk about is that the s S had
Speaker 1: like a bunch of different things the s S did,
Speaker 1: but one of the things they had a unit that
Speaker 1: existed within kind of the traditional hierarchy called the Waffen
Speaker 1: s S, which means the Weapons SS. They committed a
Speaker 1: shipload of war crimes. Ever since, Waffen has been a
Speaker 1: thing that you can kind of like stick to the
Speaker 1: end of the name of a group and you're signifying
Speaker 1: that you think the SS was based Adam. Waffen is
Speaker 1: kind of the most prominent terrorist group in the United
Speaker 1: States and other countries. That's been a big thing. And
Speaker 1: you know, it's not like Zoom, like you get what
Speaker 1: they're saying, Zoom or Waffen, Right, it's the thing anyway,
Speaker 1: That's that's what you need to know. I just I
Speaker 1: just I get so pissed because I'm like these fucking nerds,
Speaker 1: dangerous sucking nerds. It sucks. Yeah, I hate you. Yes,
Speaker 1: I'm just like you, just you. God, if you weren't
Speaker 1: so dangerously violent, you know, just locking nerds. Ye, that's that.
Speaker 1: That is the recurring statement on this show, yes, is
Speaker 1: that if it weren't dangerous, they would be much more funny. Um. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: the Zoomerwafins posted the tweet and not not not all
Speaker 1: heroes wear capes somewhere easy gap merch and with its anyway. So,
Speaker 1: just two days after the anti semitic posts on his
Speaker 1: social media accounts which got him banned, Conye then attended
Speaker 1: the Nashville premier of Candice Owens Daily Wire documentary project
Speaker 1: The Greatest Lie Ever Sold George Floyd and the Rise
Speaker 1: of BLM. And just imagine being one of the most
Speaker 1: famous people on the planet and choosing to hang out
Speaker 1: with the Daily Wire. Yeah, it's like like the like
Speaker 1: they like the word grooming obviously means nothing now, but
Speaker 1: like they they groomed him into this ship. Like basically
Speaker 1: they and groomed him into this nonsense. It's Kanye made
Speaker 1: a lot of choices here, and those choices were like
Speaker 1: very selfish and based in narcissism. And while he is sick,
Speaker 1: he's not a victim fundamentally, but he also is being
Speaker 1: taken advantage of, right, Like that's that's fair to say.
Speaker 1: That doesn't exculpate him from his guilt in this. But
Speaker 1: Mr West another another Kanye reference, Wake up Mr West
Speaker 1: and like like real quick, the the part that is
Speaker 1: so well, obviously it's all inferiorating. But I'm like, you're
Speaker 1: you're you're going out of your way to purposefully tear
Speaker 1: down black people when they suffering. You don't have to,
Speaker 1: you don't You could even say, like, hey, you know,
Speaker 1: which is true, Like there are some in the organization
Speaker 1: of Black Lives Matter as an organization, there's some problematic
Speaker 1: stuff that needs to be discussed and worked out, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying in and being like, Okay, well,
Speaker 1: let's get some oversight here. What are we doing here,
Speaker 1: Let's have some accountability and why are you why are
Speaker 1: you into man well, because this is this is this
Speaker 1: is Kenneth Owens like explicit grift exactly. That's she Her
Speaker 1: job is to conflate the Black Lives Matter nonprofit organization
Speaker 1: with the Black Lives Matter movement and and and and
Speaker 1: use criticisms of the nonprofit organization to basically say that
Speaker 1: any form of advocacy by people of color in you know,
Speaker 1: using the Black Lives Matter movement banner is is discredited
Speaker 1: because of the issues with the formal nonprofit organization in Portland,
Speaker 1: I have never I've never seen a single thing related
Speaker 1: to the Black Lives Matter organization, not a single thing.
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess maybe the signs like are solved
Speaker 1: by them. I don't know that. But like, it's it's
Speaker 1: not it's not a president. We're talking about up risings.
Speaker 1: It's not a fit. Like it's the the conflation of
Speaker 1: the of the nonprofit organization with the movement is the
Speaker 1: specific thing that Canadasaons has focused on for the past
Speaker 1: five years of her career. That's that's what she makes
Speaker 1: money on, is exploiting this little thing. And it's the
Speaker 1: thing that Tucker has adopted, and this is the thing
Speaker 1: that she is convinced. It's just so it's just so
Speaker 1: like what do you do, Like, okay, so any anything, okay,
Speaker 1: talk about talk about globalism you okay, that's your little thing.
Speaker 1: That's your little thing. Okay. Uh, you know you don't
Speaker 1: like that, you don't like the Democrats, you know, you know,
Speaker 1: Brandon whatever. But it's like, Okay, a man died and
Speaker 1: and that's and the cop was proven guilty and that
Speaker 1: that's that's the most gross part. Because Kanye is embrace
Speaker 1: of conpc theories now a right like, but his ambracive
Speaker 1: conspiracy theories is not just limited to anti is not
Speaker 1: just limited to anti Semitism. He now openly denies the
Speaker 1: proven facts of the events that led to the most
Speaker 1: recent international uprising in the Black Lives Matter movement. He
Speaker 1: jumped on board his pal Kendas owens absurd quote unquote
Speaker 1: documentary that claims the sequence of events proven in court
Speaker 1: and witnessed by the world via self and footage, did
Speaker 1: not actually happen. Um. That's why I'm like, you're going
Speaker 1: out of your way now. It's like you you're you're
Speaker 1: on a path, and I'm like, you're purposefully going out
Speaker 1: of your way to hurt us. And that's the part
Speaker 1: that I'm like what I said. I don't use the
Speaker 1: word cone often, but I'm like, like, why are you
Speaker 1: doing Why are you doing this? Like you're you're well
Speaker 1: because we know why you're doing it. And it's just
Speaker 1: like Candice come home, Like Cape Cape for the Republicans,
Speaker 1: do what you gotta do. If you honestly think the
Speaker 1: solutions for our community comes from the conservative world, Cape
Speaker 1: for him, do what you gotta You don't have to
Speaker 1: go out of your way like this is you're going
Speaker 1: to like you're taking the scenic route to just like Okay,
Speaker 1: it's they it's because I don't They don't actually believe
Speaker 1: that that's what the solutions are. They're just they're just
Speaker 1: living a really wealthy, extravagant lifestyle. Candaons gets to travel
Speaker 1: with Kanye West to Paris Fashion Week, she gets to
Speaker 1: have a red Caver premier with Kanye West, Kid Rock
Speaker 1: and ray J. Like that's that's the life that she
Speaker 1: has been able to create by exploding this thing. And
Speaker 1: of course she's going to do it because that's how
Speaker 1: you become a millionaire. Two kinds of people get successful
Speaker 1: on the right. One kind is fuck you got mine.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get what I can as quickly as I can. Uh.
Speaker 1: And the other is I want to create a Christian
Speaker 1: fascist ethno state. UM. Like those are the two kinds,
Speaker 1: and one feeds into the other. And Candas Owens has decided,
Speaker 1: I'm fine with helping the other kind of prominent conservative
Speaker 1: accomplish their goals because it won't get too bad, you know,
Speaker 1: during my lifetime. I can make enough money. I'm one
Speaker 1: of the good ones. They're like, this is this is
Speaker 1: this is the same thing with someone like Blair White
Speaker 1: for you know, for um, for trans issues, there's there's
Speaker 1: there's a specific tokenized figures Dave Reuben with you know
Speaker 1: with gay people, like if they align as one of
Speaker 1: the good ones and they think that things won't get
Speaker 1: bad enough in their lifetime, and they'll they'll they'll just
Speaker 1: they'll just be able to profit. Yeah. Wait, wait, just
Speaker 1: to make sure, is Dave Reuben the dude that was like, well,
Speaker 1: scientifically speaking, a mermaid couldn't be that dark. No, that's uh,
Speaker 1: that feels like a Ben Shapiro or crowd or bit.
Speaker 1: I I don't remember specifically, Okay, I thought that was
Speaker 1: the way. It was hilarious. It was one of those clowns.
Speaker 1: They scientifically speaking, they're all paid by the same dude.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. It's like, I still need to get
Speaker 1: this joke off. So it's rushing that Kanye not only
Speaker 1: just attended the premiere, but it's now actually pair the
Speaker 1: disinformation and the and the talking points that Kenneth Owens
Speaker 1: used in her faux documentary. So just a few days
Speaker 1: after he went to the Red Carpet, he started spreading
Speaker 1: the disinformation on the police's murder of George Floyd on
Speaker 1: a podcast. I watched the George Floyd documentary at Candice
Speaker 1: Owen's put up. One of the things that his two
Speaker 1: roommates said was, they want a tall guy like me,
Speaker 1: they want a talk guy like me. And the day
Speaker 1: when he died, he said a prayer for you know,
Speaker 1: eight minutes. He said a prayer for eight minutes. They
Speaker 1: hit him with the fence and all if you look
Speaker 1: at the guy's knee wasn't even on his neck like
Speaker 1: that when he said Mama, mama, his is his girlfriend?
Speaker 1: He said, he's screamed for his mama. Mama was his
Speaker 1: girlfriend is in the documentary. So that's pretty bad. Um.
Speaker 1: And after after that he starts talking about other kind
Speaker 1: of random conspiracy theory stuff that another leads him to
Speaker 1: making more comments about the Jews. Um, So here's that clip.
Speaker 1: They blocked me out, the Jewish media block me out.
Speaker 1: This ship lit right, I'm lit right, I'm lit I'm
Speaker 1: lit You know what I'm saying. JP Morrigan, I put
Speaker 1: a hundred forty million dollars and the JP Morgan and
Speaker 1: they treated me like ship. So if JP Morgan Chase
Speaker 1: is treating me like that, how they treating the rest
Speaker 1: of you? And this Chase accounts. That's what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: I am outraged by the time. People always they want
Speaker 1: to calm it down because no matter what, you didn't
Speaker 1: break no law. I didn't break a law anything, But
Speaker 1: this is it's like a social contract. Candis has a
Speaker 1: word for them forgetting. But it's basically like they told
Speaker 1: Candis and she couldn't hang out with me for the
Speaker 1: Jewish people. What I'm doing is I'm me too in
Speaker 1: the Jewish culture. I'm saying, y'all gotta stand up and
Speaker 1: admit to what you've been doing one and y'all just
Speaker 1: got away with it for so long did y'all don't
Speaker 1: even realize what you're doing. And it's like, I can't
Speaker 1: funk with me either, because y'all behind that gate of fish,
Speaker 1: y'all soft, Your hands got soft. You ain't out here
Speaker 1: getting beat up every day like me. You ain't out
Speaker 1: here getting called crazy every day like me. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna play anymore of that podcast because honestly, this is
Speaker 1: where it starts getting into the territory where it's just
Speaker 1: kind of exploiting someone's mental health issues for entertainment, and
Speaker 1: it gets like this is where it gets very disjointed.
Speaker 1: Connie starts talking about how the Louis Vatan company killed
Speaker 1: one of his friends, Yeah, who actually died of cancer. Um,
Speaker 1: it's a it's a conspiracy that Connie's developed the past year.
Speaker 1: And he also talked about this for seven minutes UM
Speaker 1: in the unused Tucker Carlson segments, which I'm also not
Speaker 1: going to include because it's also for context, like Virgil
Speaker 1: is like royalty among our community, like what he did
Speaker 1: being the verst black like head designer at Louis Batton. Um,
Speaker 1: and I think a lot of us, think a lot
Speaker 1: of us I sound like Trump. A lot of people
Speaker 1: are saying no, but there is an understanding that um
Speaker 1: like in a lot of ways Kanye was jealous of him,
Speaker 1: Um in the in the way that he was able
Speaker 1: to succeed and Louis Batton. And then now that he's
Speaker 1: gone and and clearly Kanye doesn't grieve well yea. And
Speaker 1: another segment of the Tucker leak includes a clip where
Speaker 1: Kanye is discussing visions from God on how to build
Speaker 1: free energy and fully kinetic energy communities and kinetic energy cities.
Speaker 1: So this combine, like this is where I'm not going
Speaker 1: to actually include any more clips of Kanye, because it's
Speaker 1: just it's it's just the laughing at the person who's
Speaker 1: not doing okay. But and that's not cool. Now obviously,
Speaker 1: like mental illness is not cannot be used as an
Speaker 1: excuse for bigotry or anti semitism. Um. But exploding someone's
Speaker 1: suffering through like up a manic episode to score political
Speaker 1: points is also like immoral. Um. And we're seeing a
Speaker 1: lot of like false choices being presented towards mental illness
Speaker 1: and anti semitism, And the answer can actually be both. Um.
Speaker 1: You know, those struggling with mental illness do not kind
Speaker 1: of they don't originate these types of bigotry, right um.
Speaker 1: But in but when you're manic, you can latch onto
Speaker 1: things and reflect them. Um. And I's not saying it's okay,
Speaker 1: but that also it's we should not deny that. Like
Speaker 1: I have seen a lot of people saying like, mentally
Speaker 1: ill people don't say racist things, which are like, that's
Speaker 1: not true. Like if like if you, if you, if
Speaker 1: you've been around a lot of mentally ill people, they
Speaker 1: cannot they can. It's it's it's it's the same thing
Speaker 1: with people when people's brains are deteriorating on dementia. One
Speaker 1: of the last things they can say are curse words. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's, it's it's it's one of those weird like
Speaker 1: like vector points inside our brain. So yeah, you you
Speaker 1: actually can be be racist when you're not usually racist
Speaker 1: if you're experiencing a severe mental health episode, and that's
Speaker 1: not that's not excusing you for your behavior. But also
Speaker 1: we shouldn't create this false division, and we shouldn't like
Speaker 1: in some ways, it's like you're like a gate keeping
Speaker 1: mental illness by saying no, no real mentally ill person
Speaker 1: could say these bad things, which actually in supportive people
Speaker 1: experiencing mental distress. Yeah, it's on that same lane as
Speaker 1: like the you know, the mass shooters and stuff like that. Exactly,
Speaker 1: if you just gonna call it mental illness, then like
Speaker 1: you can oviscate any responsibility. But also refusing to acknowledge
Speaker 1: that mental health can play a factor inside some mass
Speaker 1: shootings also misses the point exactly because it can play
Speaker 1: a very large factor, especially in the wave of like
Speaker 1: skitz Awave inspired shootings exactly. That's that's what I was
Speaker 1: gonna say, that that that can inflation of something that
Speaker 1: really is real and really is important. You know, uh
Speaker 1: you see that. I see that with Like I've known
Speaker 1: people who've worked in like, um, you know, like legit
Speaker 1: human trafficking, like not like the dog Whistlee version, but
Speaker 1: like actual rescuing you know, traffic girls from the sex
Speaker 1: industry who were like pulled from a village you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying and put into a brothel, like people
Speaker 1: that are like really out here, like actually doing the work,
Speaker 1: you know, where trafficking is a thing, you know, and
Speaker 1: then you conflated with these you know, conspiracies, and then
Speaker 1: like and of course a person who really works in
Speaker 1: this thing, you're like you finally feel like you're getting
Speaker 1: some traction with people to actually care about the stuff
Speaker 1: you care about, you know what I'm saying. And now
Speaker 1: now it's like if you mentioned trafficking, it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you can't. It's like how do I It's like, no, serious,
Speaker 1: it's really a thing, Guy's really it is, you know.
Speaker 1: But trying to disentangle it from yeah, that's what you're saying,
Speaker 1: is like to to do a one or the other
Speaker 1: thing is missing the point of both situations. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: because because obviously, like Kanye isn't someone who's dealing with
Speaker 1: like a temporary mental health episode where he's yelling slurs
Speaker 1: on the side of a sidewalk. Kanye is like an
Speaker 1: affulent man who's making calculated and financially driven choices. But
Speaker 1: that still doesn't mean that stuff like bipolar does not
Speaker 1: play a factor in the types of impulsive decision making
Speaker 1: he's making and the types of people that he surrounds
Speaker 1: himself with, which influences this pattern of behavior. Combined with
Speaker 1: like social media and combined with his celebrity status christ
Speaker 1: the cycle of really unhealthy choices. Um. Like when when
Speaker 1: you're talking about like fake children being planted in your home,
Speaker 1: like that's like, yeah, that's not like it's that's that's
Speaker 1: not dismissing that as being no way related to mental illness,
Speaker 1: I think is kind of a misstep. Um. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's It's one of the things that's tough about this
Speaker 1: is that it hits all of the areas that, like
Speaker 1: the primary places where conversation takes part socially are worst
Speaker 1: at dealing with. Because like, as we've said, mental illness
Speaker 1: is a major factor in this. It also does not
Speaker 1: exculpate him from bad behavior. It doesn't make what he's
Speaker 1: saying not racist, um. But it's also tied into like
Speaker 1: this deep manipulation campaign that the right is because they've
Speaker 1: been looking for a guy like this forever. And you
Speaker 1: can see like that that's why Tucker and all these
Speaker 1: folks were so quickly to spin up when he wound
Speaker 1: up being like amenable to that, like and it's yeah,
Speaker 1: because he's he's very clearly being encouraged to keep doing
Speaker 1: these sort of things for like entertainment and clout um.
Speaker 1: And I think a lot of the responses to this
Speaker 1: kind of show how stigmatized that more severe personality disorders
Speaker 1: are compared to stuff like anxiety or depression or a
Speaker 1: d H d UM. Because you also don't want to
Speaker 1: like villainize bipolar disorder instinct and stigmatize it further because
Speaker 1: a lot of people can live with bipolar disorder. I've
Speaker 1: known I've known people that live with with bipolar disorder
Speaker 1: who are not going on anti semitic rants like it's
Speaker 1: like it manifests different and lots of other people. So
Speaker 1: it's you should not use this as an example to
Speaker 1: stigmatize other people with this or say it's just this
Speaker 1: um it creates you have to talk about you have
Speaker 1: to kind of think of with this in a multi
Speaker 1: in a multifaceted fashion where someone's not just good or
Speaker 1: not just bad. It's actually you have to get you know,
Speaker 1: less in too like puritanical, you know, perfectly unblemished victims
Speaker 1: and you know evil e like like evil intention depressors
Speaker 1: like it. It's it's more complicated than that. And the
Speaker 1: the Internet is bad with bad bad of nuance. One
Speaker 1: of the turns out the Internet sucks at nuance. To
Speaker 1: close this off, we're gonna talk about how Kanye really
Speaker 1: has kind of been played by by people like Candace
Speaker 1: Owens because a little over a week after his banishment
Speaker 1: from the two big mainstream social media platforms, this past Monday,
Speaker 1: Kandie announced that he has entered a deal to buy
Speaker 1: the failed far right social media platform Parlor. Parlor CEO
Speaker 1: George Farmer said that his wife, conservative influencer Candace Owens
Speaker 1: approached Kanye about a Parlor deal while attending his Paris
Speaker 1: Fashion Week show where about where the payer of Them
Speaker 1: wore the Black wore the White Lives Matter shirts. So
Speaker 1: Candace Owens has been playing Kanye this entire time and
Speaker 1: is and is convinced Kanye to buy her husband's failing business,
Speaker 1: like she's just playing him. Like like Parlor has currently
Speaker 1: only and daily active users. Even gab get Her and
Speaker 1: Trump's and Trump's Truth Social have way more daily users
Speaker 1: than Parlor, and Kennis Owens has convinced has convinced to
Speaker 1: buy the platform. I'm sorry, did you say her husband
Speaker 1: owns Parlor? Yes, her husband is the CEO of Partner. Okay,
Speaker 1: And for an idea of how failed it is, the
Speaker 1: people I know who spend a lot of their time
Speaker 1: hanging out in far right spaces don't even get on
Speaker 1: Parlor anymore. Like it's it's it's it's not, it doesn't matter,
Speaker 1: it's yes, it's the CEO is Kennys Owens husband. I
Speaker 1: am a clint. I didn't. I mean it's an obvious grift,
Speaker 1: right yeah, I'm like, see this is a bad one.
Speaker 1: She's a very smart this is she's a successful grifter.
Speaker 1: She that is. I can't believe it, Like she finally
Speaker 1: broke character. What I've been asking for these last to this,
Speaker 1: these these two hours, is give me a moment of clarity.
Speaker 1: You just gave it to me, right like she Oh,
Speaker 1: there it is, this is what I've been waiting for
Speaker 1: got it I have, I've I've one more page before
Speaker 1: we before we close out. So okay, alright, I feel
Speaker 1: I don't know how. I can't explain this, the sense
Speaker 1: of relief. I feel like it's so weird to say that,
Speaker 1: but I feel so relieved that I'm like, no, it's
Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's extremely telling and it confirms a
Speaker 1: lot of the things that we've been thinking about what's
Speaker 1: been going on between her and Kanye for the past
Speaker 1: like five years. Um. So, Kanye has been hit with
Speaker 1: a with a two d and fifty million dollar lawsuit
Speaker 1: by the family of George Floyd. The lawsuit was filed
Speaker 1: by Roxy Washington on behalf of her and George Floyd's
Speaker 1: a daughter, Gina. In a statement, Washington's lawyers confirmed that
Speaker 1: she's doing Kanye West and his business partners for defamation, harassment, misappropriation,
Speaker 1: and infliction of emotional distress. Um and the legal team
Speaker 1: is allegedly considered or a number of other possible defendants
Speaker 1: in the case, including Candace Owens. So it sucks that
Speaker 1: that's happening, but I like that, like that that's just
Speaker 1: like re traumatizing to the entire family. Um that they're
Speaker 1: having to dredge up all this stuff to sue fucking
Speaker 1: Kanye West and Candace Owen's that sucks. But I hope
Speaker 1: that they get all of their money, Like I hope
Speaker 1: that they get to live forever on the money of
Speaker 1: Kanye West. Um, it's like, look, dude, like again, it's
Speaker 1: just that like that oh saying it's like, you ain't
Speaker 1: gotta like me, but just you you don't. You also
Speaker 1: don't have to be in my way, you know. So
Speaker 1: even when I look at somebody like a Candice or whatever,
Speaker 1: this like this fhear of of specifically persons of color
Speaker 1: in this right wing grivet that I'm like, you don't, like,
Speaker 1: you don't have to help me, but you also don't
Speaker 1: have to hurt me, you know. And that's and that's
Speaker 1: the part to me in I keep coming back to that,
Speaker 1: it's like you're going out of your way to hurt us,
Speaker 1: Like that's that's I'm like, I don't get it, man,
Speaker 1: Like you don't, you don't have to do There is
Speaker 1: so much money. Here's the thing. And this is gonna
Speaker 1: sound terrible, but I mean it to be terrible. There
Speaker 1: is so much money to be made off white people,
Speaker 1: like you can make so much money from them. We
Speaker 1: have a lot of it. We took it from everywhere else. Yes,
Speaker 1: you can make so much from them without destroying without
Speaker 1: tearing us down, you know, just it's like get your money. Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm now gonna read like my thesis on this,
Speaker 1: because again I did, I did. I did not. I
Speaker 1: initially did not want to cover this. I thought we
Speaker 1: probably shouldn't. I thought that it's it's kind of explitting
Speaker 1: the same media cycles that encourages this type of healthy
Speaker 1: behavior in the first place. But I have a thesis
Speaker 1: on this that I want to kind of go through,
Speaker 1: and then we can and and and in this discussion.
Speaker 1: Though in an online economy based on shock ad driven
Speaker 1: head to discourse and data collecting online engagement, Kanye's outbursts
Speaker 1: are useful to be deployed as ready made ammunition for
Speaker 1: culture wars, even though what he said is so obviously
Speaker 1: beyond the pale. Quoting New Republic. West's celebrity, still existent
Speaker 1: despite the years of controversy and alienation, is simply too
Speaker 1: valuable for the right. After decades of being denied the
Speaker 1: endorsement of of predominant celebrities, with the exception of like
Speaker 1: Clint Eastwood, UM and and and someone like Donald Trump
Speaker 1: and the rights gritting their teeth through how celebrities don't
Speaker 1: really matter to them. The right cherishes the affection it
Speaker 1: receives from controversial crossover figures such as Elon Musk and
Speaker 1: Kanye West, and doesn't want to lose them to disrepute,
Speaker 1: or at least wants to continue using them in spite
Speaker 1: of it. West's willingness to lend his imper mater to
Speaker 1: the pet causes of people like Carlson and kind of
Speaker 1: Swan's makes him invaluable and un jettisonable. To pick up
Speaker 1: a quote from the from uh Washington Post, Polling has
Speaker 1: repeatedly shown that white Republicans view themselves as targets of
Speaker 1: discrimination equivalent to non majority groups. Carlson and Trump sharing
Speaker 1: in that sense, highlight anecdotes that reinforce that sense and
Speaker 1: push back against the group that's most forcefully calling for
Speaker 1: the playing field to be leveled, the left, the new elite.
Speaker 1: So Carlson sees Kanye wearing a shirt that explicitly casts
Speaker 1: whites as victims and understands the opportunity. Here's a member
Speaker 1: of the inner circle of the elite, a black man
Speaker 1: who's willing to elevate the idea that white lives are
Speaker 1: disadvantaged in an equivalent way to Black lives. To validate
Speaker 1: the victimization and discomfort, let's set up an interview unquote,
Speaker 1: so for Carlson's purposes, West did not have to be
Speaker 1: Holy coherent. He can easily edit out the parts where
Speaker 1: he's ranting about the Jews, visions of kinetic energy cities,
Speaker 1: and fake children. Carlson was able to present to his
Speaker 1: viewers a famous black man who is being punished for
Speaker 1: holding views abhorred by the gate keeping cultural elites. In
Speaker 1: the podcast, West combined his anti semitism and anti black
Speaker 1: infantilization into slander that Jewish people have owned the black voice.
Speaker 1: But it's Kanye whose voice and platform is being used
Speaker 1: by far right grifters for profit by stoking white populist
Speaker 1: racism against both Jews and Black people, and now to
Speaker 1: buy their failed social media apps. The conservative Christian right
Speaker 1: that has grown to use Kanye as a token won't
Speaker 1: be so quick to disown him for overtly conspiratorial or
Speaker 1: biggest statements. One of the lessons that the right has
Speaker 1: learned from Donald Trump is that there's no advantages to
Speaker 1: be gained from criticizing one zone as long as they're
Speaker 1: remaining loyal to the fundamental causes of the movement, especially
Speaker 1: when it comes to exploiting white grievance. West is then
Speaker 1: permitted to be as blatantly anti Semitic as he wants
Speaker 1: with out fear of sanction. He's clearly bigoted and clearly suffering,
Speaker 1: but the Right clearly considers him to be the most
Speaker 1: useful idiot, or perhaps one of the brave few people
Speaker 1: who's willing to say the things that others may think
Speaker 1: but don't yet dare utter. Some have argued that there's
Speaker 1: no point in searching for meaning in Kanye's almost decades
Speaker 1: long descent, that there's no deeper insight here, just the
Speaker 1: truth that that anti Semitism is noxious and we're a
Speaker 1: tragically long way from defeating it. But I think that
Speaker 1: misses the relatively clear trajectory that Kanye has been on
Speaker 1: since ultra life, being to this now Christian identity but
Speaker 1: black shit, and the very real danger and influence that
Speaker 1: a relatively small and unknown weirdos like Canadas, owens can
Speaker 1: have on like countrywide politics. And finally, to paraphrase from
Speaker 1: the Columbia Journalism Review, Kanye West's statements are not of
Speaker 1: no consequence, but anyone who spends time thinking about them
Speaker 1: and talking about them needs to not be complicit in
Speaker 1: ex ascerbating those consequences, whether that be platforming, bigotry or
Speaker 1: stigmatizing mental health issues. If the media and the press
Speaker 1: must cover Kanye, they should do so with context and
Speaker 1: with an eye towards accuracy, reality, history, and motivation. At minimum,
Speaker 1: coverage should isolate what's important to Kanye's and the story
Speaker 1: and describe it clearly for what it is, rather than
Speaker 1: mining him for controversy and then performing ignorance or agnosticism
Speaker 1: about the substance of what he's saying. Sadly, too much
Speaker 1: top line coverage of Kanye's recent outbursts did the latter,
Speaker 1: with several mainstream outlets referring to the tweets and headlines
Speaker 1: as alleged anti semitic posts, or wrote that the posts
Speaker 1: have been widely deemed to be anti Semitic language that
Speaker 1: clearly reveals more about the authors than its subject, so
Speaker 1: that that's kind of my thesis on why this is
Speaker 1: worth talking about and all of the moving aspects about
Speaker 1: what's going on here between Canadas, Owens, Tuck, Tucker, Carlson,
Speaker 1: and Kanye West. So yeah, good word, that's really good.
Speaker 1: Let's all go be sad. Yeah, there's not really a
Speaker 1: solution here except besides celebrity. Like, I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: all of this has at its root the same problems,
Speaker 1: which is that when you allow money to equivalentate like
Speaker 1: social and political power or equal social and political power,
Speaker 1: and when you then hand certain individuals huge amounts of money, um,
Speaker 1: a lot of them will either be outright evil or
Speaker 1: out of their minds, or a combination of the two,
Speaker 1: and they can cause tremendous damage to society as a
Speaker 1: result of it. Um. So it's good. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: that there's two you know, from from my perspective, there's
Speaker 1: the the metaphorical question of like, okay, is he disinvited
Speaker 1: to the barbecue? Like, which is a you know, again
Speaker 1: a metaphorical question. I don't know if you guys know
Speaker 1: what I mean when we say that, was like can
Speaker 1: he come to the barb few? Yeah, so like yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like So the question we
Speaker 1: need to ask as a community as the culture, like
Speaker 1: he so lovingly decides to mock um, but is that okay?
Speaker 1: So as a community, what does it take for us
Speaker 1: to finally disavow somebody's statements and just be like, all right, brother,
Speaker 1: you're gone, you know, because right now it's up for debate.
Speaker 1: You know, there are people that like, you know, we
Speaker 1: checked out long time ago. You know, there are other
Speaker 1: people that are like still like, you know, we love
Speaker 1: the old Kanye and that genius is still in there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but this album slaps Okay, I know he problem back.
Speaker 1: I know he put the red hat on, but you know,
Speaker 1: the Sunday services were so dope, you know what I'm saying. Like,
Speaker 1: so you have that discussion continually happening. But I think
Speaker 1: that that's something as for for our community, we need
Speaker 1: to learn how to We need to really discuss, you know,
Speaker 1: what does it take for us to like finally let
Speaker 1: somebody go Like again, I I keep going back to
Speaker 1: our Kelly because I'm like, dog, we knew, we knew
Speaker 1: since Aliyah that like his brother had problems. You know.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think if if there's a way to
Speaker 1: not alienate him fully so that his only friend is Canadas.
Speaker 1: Owens that would be great exactly. That's that's why it's
Speaker 1: up for debate. It's like, you, I don't know how
Speaker 1: that process works. That's what I'm trying to say. That's
Speaker 1: part of the part. That's part of the problem. It's like,
Speaker 1: but you know why we why it hasn't had why
Speaker 1: it doesn't happen so fast? Like I said, like our
Speaker 1: defenses normally, our collective identity is the community. That's how
Speaker 1: we defend each other and protect each other from falling
Speaker 1: off the edge, either from the police or from yourself.
Speaker 1: It's like you bring them in and just be like,
Speaker 1: oh baby, we need to have a talk, you know. Um.
Speaker 1: But at some point you're like, all right, family done,
Speaker 1: you know. And that's what happened with R. Kelly. It
Speaker 1: was like, all right, dog, we tried you know, uh,
Speaker 1: we we tried you We can't do this no more,
Speaker 1: you know. UM. I think there's that, and I think
Speaker 1: there's also another question. Obviously, the the American evangelical with
Speaker 1: you know, statistically speaking, still only represents nine to eleven
Speaker 1: percent of christian as a whole across the world. So
Speaker 1: you really like it's a this is a specific to
Speaker 1: us in America problem, And I just wonder that's another
Speaker 1: question to me, Like y'all like they always looking for
Speaker 1: whether it was Tim Tebow or you always looking for champions,
Speaker 1: you know, and and this keeps happening to you, keeps
Speaker 1: happening to you, and y'all end up looking like assholes,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, And just not like the
Speaker 1: faith you say you profess, Like when are y'all gonna
Speaker 1: stop looking for champions, Like when you're gonna stop looking
Speaker 1: for your and just be like, let's just do the
Speaker 1: ship our book says, you know, like for better or
Speaker 1: for worse, Like, you know, I just think that these
Speaker 1: are again, these are interesting cultural questions. See, you don't
Speaker 1: need no celebrity, Like why y'all always think you need
Speaker 1: a celebrity because you just because again you're just trying
Speaker 1: to be cool while at the same time saying that
Speaker 1: you stand against the culture. It's like, well, well, funk,
Speaker 1: will you stand against the culture? Why are you always
Speaker 1: trying to have somebody from the culture to be oh hero,
Speaker 1: you know, like well ship, Like I don't know, I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, like I think I do think that again,
Speaker 1: I don't have no answers either, but I think that
Speaker 1: these are like questions that everybody that this fool affected
Speaker 1: y'all really need to ask yourself, Like you need to
Speaker 1: ask yourself, you know, like you said, like the mental
Speaker 1: health stuff, the problem of celebrity, which is a bigger problem.
Speaker 1: But to me, these are he he he made. He's
Speaker 1: making us inadvertently ask ourselves these big systemic questions that
Speaker 1: we still are afraid to reckon with. I feel like
Speaker 1: I think that's a good note to end. Well, everybody
Speaker 1: that's gonna do it for all of us here man,
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