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Speaker 2: Hey, guys, Bobby Bones here today on the Bobby Cast,

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Speaker 2: I'm hanging out with my love, vent Emilia, actor, director, producer.

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Speaker 2: I know him mostly as Jack Pearson on This is Us,

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Speaker 2: He is Amilia. I often try to find the three

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Speaker 2: you don't have to go into a full answer, but

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Speaker 1: I thought it was wonderful. I know that Dan Fogelman,

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Speaker 1: And what I thought was beautiful that Dan did was

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Speaker 3: With active duty and veterans.

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Speaker 1: No use my points, hung on my points for like

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Speaker 2: comfort in that. When I got out of the plane,

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00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:34,440
Speaker 2: I was I was sick for eight hours. I laid

439
00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:36,040
Speaker 2: on the floor in the room for a while, and

440
00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:37,640
Speaker 2: then I was just humiliated. They had to look at

441
00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:40,200
Speaker 2: me and where were where did you do your flight.

442
00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,760
Speaker 3: At like thirty minutes from here. They were, Oh god,

443
00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:44,359
Speaker 3: it's always like in town. So you just like hopped

444
00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:45,760
Speaker 3: into a car. Still couldn't get home.

445
00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:47,800
Speaker 2: Now, I laid on the floor for yeah, to drive there,

446
00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:49,480
Speaker 2: and then I laid on the floor, and then I

447
00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:51,920
Speaker 2: laid on the floor in the bathroom, which was disgusting. Sure,

448
00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:53,560
Speaker 2: then I went to my car and leaned the seat

449
00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:55,520
Speaker 2: back and did that for about an hour and then

450
00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:56,560
Speaker 2: finally got home.

451
00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:57,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a rough one.

452
00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:00,240
Speaker 1: I I was in Arizona, but then I had light

453
00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:04,160
Speaker 1: to Vegas for something, and I got onto a Southwest

454
00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:07,560
Speaker 1: flight and I remember as we're like landing and descending

455
00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:09,400
Speaker 1: and I'm by myself and I kind of like lean

456
00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:10,040
Speaker 1: to the person next.

457
00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:11,920
Speaker 3: Men'm like, this is not even like a half a gen.

458
00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:16,280
Speaker 1: Like thinking, I'm all high and mighty, like I just

459
00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:17,640
Speaker 1: passed out an eight and a half.

460
00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:21,000
Speaker 3: Gen a quarter gee, this is ridiculous. Nothing. What was

461
00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:24,960
Speaker 3: your jumping out of a plane experience? Like, so was

462
00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,040
Speaker 3: over at Fort Bragg spending time with Army.

463
00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:31,199
Speaker 1: Army Special Forces used to sock over there, and you know,

464
00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:34,159
Speaker 1: they just the good thing about the military community, Like

465
00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:36,080
Speaker 1: they pull you in and they want to show you

466
00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:38,600
Speaker 1: all of the cool stuff that they do, but also

467
00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:42,760
Speaker 1: just really immerse you with the troops, and the guys

468
00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:46,080
Speaker 1: and gals are in a uniform that electively serve, and

469
00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:48,680
Speaker 1: so I mean, you know, I would uh be there

470
00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:51,000
Speaker 1: like running programs with those guys where you know, we're

471
00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:54,320
Speaker 1: blowing doors off of hinges and clearing rooms and stuff

472
00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:59,080
Speaker 1: all the way to watching life saving field medic skills

473
00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:02,600
Speaker 1: all on. You know, another soldier who's just you know,

474
00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:07,080
Speaker 1: pretending to be wounded. And then you know, they were like, hey,

475
00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:08,640
Speaker 1: do you want to jump? And I was like, yeah,

476
00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,080
Speaker 1: of course, never done it before in my life.

477
00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:12,840
Speaker 3: They just say do you want to jump? Yeah?

478
00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:15,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, Hey, hey do you want to blow you know, here,

479
00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,720
Speaker 1: here's some explosives, Go take the door off of those hinges. Hey,

480
00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:22,080
Speaker 1: here's a rifle, go, you know, shoot long distance. Hey,

481
00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,200
Speaker 1: here's a parachute. This guy's going to strap you in it.

482
00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:27,840
Speaker 1: Just jump out a plane. I'm like, okay, cool, here's

483
00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:29,000
Speaker 1: a jet, go fly in it.

484
00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:33,240
Speaker 3: Cool. Do you chase no adrenaline? No?

485
00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:36,240
Speaker 1: Absolutely not. I mean it's and it's now being a

486
00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:40,160
Speaker 1: father really not really not like I've had a wonderful

487
00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:44,959
Speaker 1: lifetime of it gave up my motorcycles, have no interest

488
00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:50,520
Speaker 1: in going headstrong into anything like that. And to have

489
00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,440
Speaker 1: made it out the other end with all my arms

490
00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:55,560
Speaker 1: and my limbs and feeling pretty good and my sanity

491
00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:56,800
Speaker 1: and my mental acuity.

492
00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:58,200
Speaker 3: I'm kind of like I'm good.

493
00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:01,760
Speaker 2: I have friends that became successes and they were like,

494
00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:02,960
Speaker 2: I'm bored. I'm gonna be a pilot.

495
00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:07,760
Speaker 1: Don't have that itch, Not so much out of boredom,

496
00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,800
Speaker 1: but like curiosity, Like I always have a curiosity. Be

497
00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:14,480
Speaker 1: like that's a rap practical skill. Maybe I'll go do that, Yeah,

498
00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:18,960
Speaker 1: flying piloting, flying a helicopter, or anything even down to

499
00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,200
Speaker 1: like boxing or a language.

500
00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:22,399
Speaker 3: I got.

501
00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:24,320
Speaker 1: I don't say I got so bored, but I got

502
00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,440
Speaker 1: so in tune with what I was doing, with like

503
00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:28,720
Speaker 1: being behind a camera directing and producing and be in

504
00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:30,720
Speaker 1: front of the camera acting that I'm like, Okay, cool,

505
00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,639
Speaker 1: I get it. I understand what my scope of work is.

506
00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,119
Speaker 1: Let me do something different with my brain. So I

507
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:39,280
Speaker 1: went back to school, took a started with three languages.

508
00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:41,240
Speaker 1: That was too much to do with a full time

509
00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,520
Speaker 1: two full time jobs running a company and being on

510
00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:45,840
Speaker 1: a show. And then I was like, let me back down.

511
00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,240
Speaker 1: To one, and I just went to school because I'm like,

512
00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:51,160
Speaker 1: I gotta do something different with my brain. Not out

513
00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,800
Speaker 1: of boredom, but just out of like curiosity, you know,

514
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:54,639
Speaker 1: keep it active.

515
00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:56,120
Speaker 3: Do you know other languages?

516
00:22:56,800 --> 00:23:02,120
Speaker 1: Not well anymore? That was that stretch. I started with Russian,

517
00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 1: Spanish and Japanese and realized that those languages were too much,

518
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,439
Speaker 1: so I backed off on the Russian and Spanish and

519
00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:11,320
Speaker 1: just stuck with Japanese for like two years.

520
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,440
Speaker 4: Let's take a quick pause for a message from our sponsor,

521
00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:25,920
Speaker 4: and we're back on the Bobby Cast.

522
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Speaker 3: What do you consider your first major?

523
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:34,600
Speaker 1: Yes, I mean I had a few, definitely ahead of

524
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 1: Gilmore Girls, you know, or early days of like building

525
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,159
Speaker 1: a resume and whatnot, and like working in town and

526
00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:45,040
Speaker 1: being kind of a working actor. I hit early twenty

527
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,160
Speaker 1: one is the last time I had like a job job.

528
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:48,880
Speaker 3: What was that job?

529
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 1: Was selling snowboards at a snowboard shop. And then just

530
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:56,000
Speaker 1: before that, I was waiting tables at a restaurant in Brentwood, California.

531
00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:00,080
Speaker 1: But I'd done a few shows for Warner Brothers. They

532
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 1: put me under contract like paid, Hey, you're hell do

533
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,439
Speaker 1: you work with the studio? Now? I was like, Okay,

534
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,120
Speaker 1: I guess I don't have to have a job job

535
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 1: because this will pay my rent, pay my meals, things

536
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:14,719
Speaker 1: like that. But then I think Gilmour kind of uh

537
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 1: put me on the map. Beyond that, I was still

538
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 1: kind of like working, working, working, a bunch of Warner

539
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:26,240
Speaker 1: Brothers shows, a few Universal shows, and then I did Heroes,

540
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:29,240
Speaker 1: which put me like above the map where it's kind

541
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 1: of like, oh, I went from like known in the

542
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 1: industry to known globally with Heroes. Could you feel that,

543
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:39,639
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, absolutely feel the absolutely feel the shift

544
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:43,400
Speaker 1: of you know, industry to being out on the streets

545
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 1: and someone like just running up to you and sobbing

546
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 1: or you know, want a photograph or an autograph back

547
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:55,439
Speaker 1: in the day. You feel it energetically, and then it was, uh,

548
00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 1: I think this is us that hit like a whole

549
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:02,320
Speaker 1: other statusphere and even like, you know, along the way,

550
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 1: you have things like Rocky Balboa or you know, a movie,

551
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,920
Speaker 1: a couple of movies with Adam Sandler, or a movie's

552
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:12,360
Speaker 1: Nicole Kidman or Jennifer Lopez, and like there's just these

553
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,920
Speaker 1: little like kind of hits that are happening. You're like, wow,

554
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,640
Speaker 1: almost some pretty prolific people, and when I'm on set

555
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:22,479
Speaker 1: with them, we're doing the same job and they're lovely

556
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 1: human beings, Adam and Jennifer and Nicole, and you're like, oh,

557
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,399
Speaker 1: I get I know this is a job, but also

558
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,440
Speaker 1: I'm in a very fortunate position to work with legends

559
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,920
Speaker 1: that I get to learn from and then also pass

560
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 1: on to, like younger actors and things like that.

561
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 2: I feel like there are only a few shows I

562
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 2: gave in my lifetime where I can remember kind of

563
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:44,480
Speaker 2: where I was in my life. I think music does

564
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,160
Speaker 2: this to me too, where I can hear a song

565
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,959
Speaker 2: again and I go, oh, I remember exactly where I

566
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:52,119
Speaker 2: was told this song became like a song? Sure, and

567
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 2: am I just saying this because you're here? But when

568
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 2: this is us hit, that was one of the last,

569
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:00,399
Speaker 2: I feel, at least for me, one of the last

570
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 2: cultural network phenomenons.

571
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 3: Totally Do you feel that? Yeah?

572
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:05,359
Speaker 1: Absolutely?

573
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,919
Speaker 3: It was so big, so fast, and we knew it

574
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:09,640
Speaker 3: going in.

575
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 1: We knew the impact it had because I think it

576
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:15,160
Speaker 1: impacted us on the inside that we're reading the scripts

577
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 1: and a part of this beautiful show that Dan Fogelman

578
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 1: put together. But you never really know, right, No, I mean,

579
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 1: you you don't know if it's going to be a hit.

580
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:27,880
Speaker 1: What you do know is this made me feel something.

581
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:31,159
Speaker 1: This made me feel something, and that is what we

582
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 1: try and do as artists. If we can feel it,

583
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,199
Speaker 1: hopefully someone on the other side of a movie screen

584
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 1: or a television screen can feel it too. Like that's

585
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 1: the job, you know, that emotional vulnerability, that emotional connection.

586
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,440
Speaker 1: That's what we do for a living or emotional professionals.

587
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 1: But you don't know the successes with it. It could

588
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:55,920
Speaker 1: be like the most feel feeling show ever and nobody

589
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 1: watches it it that's how it goes. But to get

590
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 1: them both the same, like we on the inside were

591
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 1: feeling it and then everybody in the outside is feeling it,

592
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 1: and then it just kind of kept going and going

593
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 1: and going. I think it was also this moment in

594
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 1: the world that people needed something like that. They needed

595
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 1: family and community and to understand that we're all going

596
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 1: through some times and we kind of need to open

597
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:23,679
Speaker 1: the valve of communication and understand and recognize our differences.

598
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:28,400
Speaker 1: And I think this gave that to audiences to take

599
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:33,160
Speaker 1: into their own lives to actually make their lives more

600
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,880
Speaker 1: connected and make their lives more validated in a way

601
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 1: sometimes and we hit so many different subject matters, you know,

602
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 1: but without trying or preaching it or staying in for

603
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,159
Speaker 1: right now. You know, what Dan Foegeman and all the

604
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 1: writers do did was they were able to take a

605
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:54,359
Speaker 1: point of view and then shift like just two or

606
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,879
Speaker 1: three degrees one direction and just show it from a

607
00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 1: slightly different angle, slightly different lens, and then you're able

608
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 1: to really understand something and then take it almost as

609
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 1: a lesson to apply it to your own life, which

610
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 1: I think is a wonderful gift as artists. You know,

611
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 1: you get to like, hey, we're handing this to you

612
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 1: to do what you will with it.

613
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:14,639
Speaker 3: Was that an audition? Actually?

614
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:18,199
Speaker 1: That was that was a yes, did you audition for

615
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 1: the role that you ended up getting? I did so

616
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,439
Speaker 1: when I read the first script, I was like, wow, man,

617
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 1: I think maybe am I more Kevin? I'm like, but

618
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,679
Speaker 1: I don't think I'm a Kevin. But then they wanted

619
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 1: me for Jack. But it wasn't that they wanted me,

620
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 1: They just said, hey, you know, they want you to

621
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:35,680
Speaker 1: read for Jack. And John and Glenn are directors, John

622
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 1: Riqua and Glenn Ficara Fakara. We had some common ground

623
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 1: with a good friend, Dan Fogelman, who created the show.

624
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 1: We had common ground with a good friend. And so

625
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 1: I walked into a very warm room and on the

626
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 1: page Jack Pearson, which was not named Pearson in the pilot,

627
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 1: he uh, as Fogman likes to say, didn't look like me,

628
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 1: Like I was off my motorcycle, was holding my helmet

629
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 1: walking in, you know, had a conversation like I never

630
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 1: met Dan, I knew NOx. No, I'd never met John

631
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 1: and Glenn either, our directors. We just all knew of

632
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 1: one another and had like friendly, friendly connections, and so

633
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 1: we just kind of were talking about the people that

634
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 1: we knew.

635
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 3: And then they were like a.

636
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: Cast nrector, like, okay, so you want to read. I'm like, yeah, cool,

637
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 1: let's do it. I'm not pulling pages out. I'm not

638
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 1: there to like read lines, like I already have this

639
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 1: in my head. And they were like, oh, I'm like yeah, no,

640
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 1: I'm ready, let's go, and we just start doing it

641
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 1: and we do like a take, and I kind of

642
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 1: glanced back at the end of it and I see

643
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 1: Dan sitting like a little boy about to open a

644
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 1: bunch of presents at Christmas. Just this big smile on

645
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 1: his face, and I'm like, Okay, I think that went

646
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 1: pretty well.

647
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 3: I walk out.

648
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 1: By the time I get back to my motorcycle, like

649
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 1: I get a call from my reps, You're like, hey,

650
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 1: they want you, And I was like that quick.

651
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was that fast. It wasn't like when you

652
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 3: do a chemistry we need to well, it was they

653
00:29:58,720 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 3: want you.

654
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 1: But of course, like you know, for studio purposes and

655
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 1: network purposes, like they're gonna have a couple of backup guys.

656
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 1: They are, but now Miley, you're the person to beat,

657
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 1: Like they the creatives all want you. They would like

658
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 1: you to read with other actresses to play your TV wife.

659
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 1: So Mandy Moore was in there, and then I think

660
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 1: three two or three other actresses were in there that

661
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 1: I read with, and so they just pulled me into

662
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 1: the process and like I think they were also testing

663
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 1: out the waters and like they had an idea about

664
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 1: the other actors, Like I think John and Glenn had

665
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 1: worked with Sterling and Fogelman knew him, so it's kind

666
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 1: of like they were eyeballing Sterling. They didn't have Christy

667
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 1: Mettz yet, who's local and wonderful here in Nashville.

668
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 3: They didn't have Justin Hartley.

669
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 1: Who's I mean, I got such a talent when one

670
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 1: of the best actors i'd worked with her scene and

671
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 1: they didn't have Mandy and I. You know, it's like

672
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 1: it kind of had ideas, but then I think I

673
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 1: was the first one. They're like, Okay, cool, this guy's

674
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 1: gonna anchor the family. He's the patriarch, he's the dad.

675
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 1: And then once they saw what Mandy and I were

676
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 1: doing together, like, oh wow, there's mom and dad, got

677
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 1: the two of them, and I think at that point

678
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 1: Sterling came on and then brought Justin and Chrissy and

679
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 1: it all made sense and took shape.

680
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 3: That show was a phenomenon.

681
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, like really one of the last because it's so fractional.

682
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 2: Now everybody everybody has somebody that's sup famous to them

683
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 2: that somebody else has never heard of.

684
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 3: Okay, because I could, I could.

685
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 2: You know, there's a guy I watch on TikTok named

686
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 2: Anatoli who does jokes and is a powerlifter, and I'm

687
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 2: sure my friend, nobody's ever heard of them like famous.

688
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 2: So fractional now, I feel like that was like one

689
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 2: of the last things where everybody knew it. It didn't

690
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 2: matter where you were from, it didn't matter. So represented

691
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 2: a version of of all different kinds.

692
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 1: Of people without forcing anything down your throat. It was

693
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 1: actually inviting you to just watch these stories to people,

694
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 1: offering you to with what they were living through, which

695
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 1: was I think again, like the most wonderful thing about

696
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 1: being an artist, Like that's what you want to be

697
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 1: a part of. Even to me, like that's what I

698
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 1: feel like, I can only imagine two is doing. You know,

699
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 1: it's you know, has an audience because the first film

700
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 1: was like incredibly successful. But I think it also it

701
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 1: opens its arms and says, hey, here's a story, and

702
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 1: here's some people we think you might relate to. Why

703
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 1: you come join us in this and like see what

704
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:29,479
Speaker 1: you can take from it.

705
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 2: There's a guy that I see on TikTok. He is Japanese,

706
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 2: speaks English wonderfully, but he goes to people and he says, hey,

707
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 2: I know your language, what is it?

708
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 3: And just people walking through.

709
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 2: And it doesn't matter Farsi, Mandarin. He knows every language. Well,

710
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 2: it's the wildest thing. Some people's brains are obvious.

711
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 1: That's an incredible miss. I wish I had that skill.

712
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 1: I mean even just think about the practical use of it. Communicate,

713
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 1: just communicate with people to understand somebody on the other side,

714
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 1: and like maybe we'll find more ground if we actually

715
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 1: realize just how similar we all are, not to get

716
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 1: you know.

717
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 2: What about accents if you're acting so to more you know,

718
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 2: practical talk about what you do for a living, not

719
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 2: just random conversation. Well, no, that's the best stuff. Honestly,

720
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 2: you're right, Like the best stuff is when you're just

721
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 2: talking about stuff that you're pasionate about it. But that

722
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 2: that puts me into the space of have you ever

723
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 2: had to do an accent and train for an accent

724
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 2: and stay in that accent for an entire duration of

725
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 2: a shoot.

726
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 1: I can't say there was anything to targeted or specific,

727
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 1: but like sometimes you know, you throw a little nuance

728
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 1: into something like working in Boston. You don't want to

729
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 1: pack the cat hop it, yeah, but like you kind

730
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 1: of throw a little something in there, a little New

731
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 1: England more than anything, or playing a character who's maybe

732
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 1: a little more traveled. It's like annunciation, pronunciation, things like

733
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 1: that to kind of like factor in. I think talking

734
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 1: about accents and talking about the current film coming out,

735
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 1: I can only imagine too.

736
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 3: Tim Timmins, He's a real person. He lives here, We

737
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 3: know him. He lives he lives here, You know him.

738
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 3: He's a real human being.

739
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 1: Like, my job is to give an honest existence, not performance,

740
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:17,479
Speaker 1: honest existence representing this real human being who's living his life,

741
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 1: who has a beautiful family, who has all these things.

742
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:23,839
Speaker 1: And I'm like, how do I sound like him? And

743
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 1: study and break that down? And like I had singing

744
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 1: a vocal coach that was getting me to my range

745
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 1: what I could do before they kind of married both

746
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 1: Tim and my voices together. But then on top of it,

747
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, how do I actually talk like him? Because

748
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 1: he and I are very different, even though we're both

749
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:44,799
Speaker 1: from Orange County, both grow up in the same era.

750
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 1: Both like there's a lot of common ground that Tim

751
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 1: and I found in our conversations. But I had a

752
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 1: separate dialect coach that I had worked with previously for

753
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 1: like random jobs and whatnot, and found out she's as

754
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 1: she's studying Tim, and I never noticed. She goes he

755
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 1: kind of has a little bit of an overbite. She's like,

756
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 1: it's so subtle. The second I was able to plug

757
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 1: that into my Tim talk and like kind of just

758
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:12,879
Speaker 1: tip my judge.

759
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 3: A little forward on the front.

760
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,360
Speaker 1: I was like, oh wow, I could capture Tim and

761
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 1: hang on to that as like bedrock, you know, foundation

762
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 1: of performance again, a performance star existence, you know, So I.

763
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 2: Would think it would be a different animal too, to

764
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 2: play somebody that's alive that you can still talk with,

765
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,879
Speaker 2: versus either a fictional person which there is no frame

766
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 2: of reference, yeah, or a historic dead person because they

767
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 2: can't go that's not me.

768
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 1: Yeah.

769
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 3: Well, and it is even too.

770
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 1: Like when we were getting into a head of production,

771
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 1: Tim was like, hey, are you cool if I'm going

772
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 1: to be on set? I said, yes, please as much

773
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 1: and as often as you can physically be there. One

774
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 1: because I can bounce things off you. Two you can

775
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 1: tell me if I suck do it differently. And three

776
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 1: just like comfort, like hey man, I'm here representing who

777
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,439
Speaker 1: you are and I want to do it honestly and

778
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 1: as as I can. So please be there, Please help me,

779
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 1: please like walk with me with you know in this process.

780
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 3: What about the music, the guitar part of it. I

781
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 3: play already.

782
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 1: I mean like friends in high school, you know. I

783
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 1: think in my twenties. I had a bunch of punk

784
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:18,879
Speaker 1: rock friends in Los Angeles and we've you know, thought

785
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 1: we'd be a band, but now it never happens. So

786
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 1: I kind of like play a little get bit of

787
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 1: guitar like by myself as loud as I could in

788
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:26,399
Speaker 1: my house, and then I was like, ah, you know.

789
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 3: Fun, but never stuck with it.

790
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 1: But for this again, wanting to honor my friend Tim

791
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:36,959
Speaker 1: and the script ahead of me that Brent McCorkle wrote,

792
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 1: and Andy Irwin's directing those guys, I'm like, hey, let

793
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 1: me put the work in. And so I had a

794
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 1: buddy who was in music back in California named Nate White,

795
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:49,320
Speaker 1: Nate White Shark. He helped get my fingers moving again,

796
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 1: and then had a vocal coach to do the singing stuff,

797
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 1: Eric Vetro. And then I had Tim as like the

798
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 1: best reference to be able to say like, hey, my,

799
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:01,879
Speaker 1: you know, this is this is how I'd play the song.

800
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 1: This is like these are the chords that I would use.

801
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 1: And he would teach me like twelve ways to play

802
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 1: one note. I'm like, bro, give me one way to

803
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 1: play it. I don't need, you know, the forty two

804
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 1: thousand ways and like, it's very fun to watch you

805
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 1: do that, but like, help me make it look real

806
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:16,959
Speaker 1: and good.

807
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 3: So I just worked at it.

808
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:21,240
Speaker 1: And I did all this too, like with a newborn

809
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,399
Speaker 1: baby and on the road, like out of my house

810
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 1: because of burned down and all this stuff. And it

811
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 1: was just like, all right, cool, let me just throw

812
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,760
Speaker 1: myself my entire focus into making sure my family's okay

813
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 1: and making sure I'm doing right by Tim.

814
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 2: Obviously, you're playing a guy that plays music, and again

815
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 2: a guy that we know from being here in town.

816
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 2: But depending on how much music you actually played, there's

817
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 2: learning how to play guitar, line chords, there's learning how

818
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 2: to sing, but there's other and the monstra playing and

819
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 2: singing at the same time. Yeah, because that's something I

820
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 2: didn't know where were you. Did you already kind of

821
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:56,359
Speaker 2: have that with your back?

822
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 1: Dude? Absolutely not add zero, add none of it. So

823
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 1: I'm and Tim, he's so gracious. He says to me, like,

824
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 1: whenever people were in company people ask me about guitar,

825
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 1: He's like, not only did Mila have to learn how

826
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:12,320
Speaker 1: to play four songs of his singing, I played a

827
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 1: kick drum with a heel tambourine and a harmonium all

828
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 1: at the same time. And they threw the harmonium and

829
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 1: the kick drum and tambourine in like a week before

830
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 1: we filmed all that stuff, Like what, But once I

831
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:28,839
Speaker 1: had the comfort of the guitar and not having to

832
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 1: think about where things were going, just that memory, that

833
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,919
Speaker 1: finger muscle memory where things go to play whatever note,

834
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 1: and the confidence to sing. Also knowing that, hey, I

835
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 1: got filmmakers that are going to look out for me.

836
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 1: You know, my voice may not be as strong as Tims,

837
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 1: but they're going to make sure that Tim's voice is

838
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 1: very present and mold us together.

839
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:50,760
Speaker 3: What do you mean mold you together? So okay?

840
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 1: So John Michael Finley, who plays Bart Millard that d's

841
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:59,360
Speaker 1: on Broadway, He's like, mega singer, beautiful, wonderful voice, like

842
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 1: he does that for a living. Like I'm a straight actor.

843
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 1: I don't have vocal in my bag of tricks. I

844
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 1: don't have guitar and my bag of tricks those are

845
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:10,479
Speaker 1: things I have to like strap on for whatever character

846
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 1: I'm playing.

847
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:11,359
Speaker 3: I e.

848
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 1: Timmins. So when I said this to Andy and Brent,

849
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, guys, I don't naturally sing.

850
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 3: How does that?

851
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 1: How will that work for you, and they were like, well,

852
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 1: are you willing to do a vocal coach? I said absolutely,

853
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 1: So I got with the vocal coach, worked on it,

854
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 1: did the best I could, and got to a point

855
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 1: where when I was laying down a scratch track with.

856
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 3: Andy and Brent and Jeremy Redman, who was doing the.

857
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 1: Music on the on the movie, I went in for

858
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 1: like the first recording and like gave him. I ole,

859
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 1: warmed my voice up, did the whole thing, sang into

860
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,799
Speaker 1: the mic in you know, a little little box room,

861
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 1: and then I turned back and look at everybody and

862
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 1: they're like, we're surprised. I was pretty good. You want

863
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:59,359
Speaker 1: to go again? I'm like, yeah, I knew it wasn't

864
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 1: the same ques quality is Tim, and it needed to

865
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 1: be for the movie. So what they did was they

866
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 1: took my voice what I'd recorded, and Tim's voice and

867
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 1: what he'd recorded, and they just put him together and

868
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 1: they digitally, somehow musically molded together that it's both his

869
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 1: voice and my voice in there as this kind of

870
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 1: combo hybrid Hollywood movie version of Tim Timmins.

871
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 2: Do you feel like after this project you could elevate

872
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,800
Speaker 2: and do another music role is that or do you

873
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 2: think you would want to go out and just do

874
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 2: music like as like fun side.

875
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I right after this film, my wife and

876
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 1: family and I we drove straight from Nashville to Toronto

877
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 1: to go do a complete opposite character in what I

878
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:50,839
Speaker 1: was playing with Tim, and we've course had I think

879
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 1: at that point, our daughter was four months old. Tad,

880
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 1: my guitar went back in the case, a guitar that

881
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 1: was gifted to me by Tim and Andy Maidan that

882
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: he plays, which is just this beautiful, beautiful tool, stayed

883
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,360
Speaker 1: in the case. I think I pulled that out once

884
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 1: when I was on this job in Toronto, but I

885
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 1: was like, man, not only do I not have time,

886
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:18,439
Speaker 1: I've done my job with this instrument and this role,

887
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 1: and I need to kind of let it go for

888
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 1: a moment so I can focus on where I presently was,

889
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 1: which was the next job this Netflix series, and I

890
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 1: had to focus on that, and even from there, like

891
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 1: drive from Toronto back to California then up to Vancouver

892
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 1: on a whole different role, a whole different movie for

893
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 1: Netflix again, and you know, it's like I kind of

894
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,399
Speaker 1: have to stay present where I'm at, so my own

895
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,800
Speaker 1: desire to even just pick a guitar up and just

896
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 1: kind of like find those things that I was finding

897
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:47,720
Speaker 1: when I was in rhythm with it in the filming

898
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 1: of the movie. It just I have to wait, it.

899
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 3: Goes to the back of the list.

900
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 2: Have you had to embrace other skills though, in your

901
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 2: other roles, meaning like a snowscier, so you got to

902
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 2: learn how to slalo on?

903
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 1: Yes, Now, like a movie I did years ago, literally

904
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 1: like probably twenty seven or twenty eight years ago, was

905
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 1: on the mountains and the character was a skier and

906
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:09,439
Speaker 1: I grew up snowboarding, had to learn how to ski

907
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 1: cool land a bad you know, big action film. I'm

908
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 1: playing elite Tier one Army Special Forces. Okay, let me

909
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 1: go train with those guys. Let me spend some time

910
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:21,840
Speaker 1: over there, and you know, pick up some like weapon

911
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 1: skills and things like that. I'm sure if a role

912
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:27,879
Speaker 1: came up, or I'm playing a ballerina, hey man, time

913
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 1: to do some like toe points and things like that,

914
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 1: and you just just dive in and focus. You know.

915
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:37,240
Speaker 1: That's the good fun and joy of being an actor,

916
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,800
Speaker 1: being an artist in that way, Like I get to

917
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 1: live another existence and soak it up so much that

918
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 1: it's believable on camera, but I also don't. Also, I

919
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:48,879
Speaker 1: don't need to necessarily hold on to it. And if

920
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,720
Speaker 1: I ever want to revisit it, like later in my years,

921
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 1: like when I got some time, sure I may. I may,

922
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 1: like I still have the guitars. Cool, I may pick

923
00:42:56,480 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 1: them back up. Yeah, it's cool.

924
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:04,360
Speaker 2: To learn stuff and then also not to be forced.

925
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,439
Speaker 2: But there's a pressure to learn it because your job

926
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 2: says you should.

927
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 3: I had to learn how to be a stump in.

928
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 3: I'm not a stump in, and there's nothing got me

929
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 3: this tough. What was the stunts that you were performing?

930
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:14,880
Speaker 3: So I had to be lit on fire?

931
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:17,799
Speaker 1: Oh that's the one sun I want to I was

932
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,799
Speaker 1: forced to do it. I didn't choose it was it like, hey,

933
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:22,359
Speaker 1: your arm is here, we're going to do this portion

934
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:26,800
Speaker 1: of your arm. It wasn't my face. Obviously I'm great looking.

935
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 1: It's the money maker.

936
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 3: You don't have force. But it was like the side

937
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 3: of my body. So I studied. Yeah, yeah, they jailed

938
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 3: me old it's and loud.

939
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 2: At first, they're going, we're gonna tell you you're not going

940
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 2: to feel anything, and they would just do it like

941
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 2: on a part of my arm and now I'd be like, oh,

942
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 2: there's nothing to it, But then when they would have

943
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 2: to put it out, they would all come rushing in

944
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 2: like I was about to die. So then I started going,

945
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:53,799
Speaker 2: this must be way more serious than I think, because

946
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 2: when it's time to put it out, like they're rushing

947
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 2: in to cover me. So by the end of it,

948
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 2: it was we have this much time, You've got to

949
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 2: run and do this. The fire was scary. The worst

950
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:08,880
Speaker 2: was falling off a house, yeah, because I had to

951
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:10,839
Speaker 2: be in control of how my body landed.

952
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,319
Speaker 3: Humble to a pad, a bag, or.

953
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 2: A line it was more like, and it was really

954
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 2: a mattress, but it wasn't a full pad because it

955
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:20,839
Speaker 2: couldn't be high because it couldn't be seen.

956
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 3: But it was a low path and I was on

957
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:27,799
Speaker 3: It was probably eleven feet, which doesn't feel like it's

958
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 3: but that's high whenever you're falling backward off. Yeah, of

959
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 3: course you gotta trust it and.

960
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 2: If you don't tuck the right way like you will

961
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 2: hurt yourself. So it was on me to make sure

962
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 2: that I didn't break my neck. It's something that it

963
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 2: was not on me to do, but I learned and

964
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 2: I had a real respect. Not that I didn't have

965
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:45,799
Speaker 2: a respect, I just didn't have the education to know

966
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:49,479
Speaker 2: I should respect stunt people as much as I do now.

967
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 2: After doing that, and when you're doing these roles like

968
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 2: you're skiing, you're playing guitar, but you leave that with

969
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 2: not only a skill set, but with a whole new

970
00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 2: respect of what people what they're doing. That you probably

971
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:01,760
Speaker 2: knew what they were doing, but not what they were doing.

972
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 1: What's interesting to me is, you know, you look at

973
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 1: like the big action films and then you see the

974
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 1: actors playing these roles, like delivering the lines, the face

975
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:12,799
Speaker 1: and all of this, and then to know that there's

976
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 1: another human being behind that person I'll say behind just

977
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:20,839
Speaker 1: because you know stunt stunt performers are always hidden because

978
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 1: that's the job. You know, they have the face and

979
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 1: these guys are guys and gals are like the real deal.

980
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:28,839
Speaker 1: But then sometimes to see the actor kind of where

981
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 1: the bravado of the stunts, you're like, bro, that wouldn't.

982
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 3: If people only knew.

983
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:37,840
Speaker 2: I left that with a real respect for stuff, for

984
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 2: stunt people, because it's not nothing is completely safe, just

985
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 2: generally speaking, and especially in that world, like they have

986
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:49,359
Speaker 2: to do everything right to stay safe and so like

987
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:51,359
Speaker 2: that was cool. The only other thing that I did

988
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 2: was I don't like heights, and I went over with

989
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 2: a guy who cleaned. He cleaned high things, like high buildings,

990
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 2: so well, but the top there's a skybridge over the

991
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:04,319
Speaker 2: Grand Canyon, yeah, which I hadn't been to, but he

992
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 2: has to clean underneath it. Oh it's four thousand feet up. Yeah,

993
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 2: and Arizona wire just so I had to do that

994
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 2: fun and I thought, this is my new hero, like

995
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 2: that guy who does that every day.

996
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:17,360
Speaker 3: To him, it's nothing.

997
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 1: Well, it's like you see Alex Hanold, you know, going

998
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 1: up the side of El kaberup.

999
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:24,319
Speaker 3: You know Taiwan one on one or Type one on one.

1000
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 1: You're like, what crazy? You know you have to have something.

1001
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 1: I mean that guy in general, he also has everything memorized.

1002
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:36,919
Speaker 1: He knows every way up. It's a math equation to memorize,

1003
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 1: you know, three thousand moves as you're ascending, Like what

1004
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 1: like that's the most that's as impressive as the physical

1005
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 1: going up? Like how are you like learning that dance

1006
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:51,360
Speaker 1: rhythm three thousand moves all the time?

1007
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 3: How do you do with memorizing?

1008
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 5: Uh?

1009
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 3: Pretty good?

1010
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 1: But it's it's like a muscle, you know, that gets

1011
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:59,399
Speaker 1: flexed if you're doing push ups every day, like you're

1012
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 1: gonna do them a little more effortlessly. For me, if

1013
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 1: I'm away from a set, it takes me away aways

1014
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 1: a little bit of time to kind of like get

1015
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 1: back into it. But for me, I got to be

1016
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:15,840
Speaker 1: old school, Like I read my lines. I write my lines,

1017
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 1: and I write them in certain ways, like I'll have

1018
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:19,919
Speaker 1: my page, my script in front of me. I write

1019
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:21,799
Speaker 1: my lines next to the line so I see them,

1020
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 1: and then I put that away, and then I get

1021
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 1: a blank piece of paper and I write only my

1022
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:30,840
Speaker 1: lines like I'm writing, you know, a journal entry, and

1023
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 1: then I do it where I'm separating things out, and

1024
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 1: I just do.

1025
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:36,479
Speaker 3: It over and over and over and over again.

1026
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 1: But I do that in the beginning of a job

1027
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 1: because that gets my muscle flex my brain flexed. But

1028
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 1: then after a while, you know, you just hand me

1029
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 1: the page looking and go, okay, cool, I got it,

1030
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 1: because it's just you're there, You're in it. You know,

1031
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 1: you don't have to think about it.

1032
00:47:51,320 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 5: The Bobby Cast will be right back. This is the

1033
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:04,839
Speaker 5: Bobby Cast.

1034
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 2: We were talking about before you came in the movie,

1035
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:10,720
Speaker 2: which when this airs Day one, the movie comes out tomorrow,

1036
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 2: but most people watching this on Netflix the movie will

1037
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:15,359
Speaker 2: be out, So just so everybody kind of knows where

1038
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:18,799
Speaker 2: we stand with the movie coming out. Sure, whenever you

1039
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 2: get a script, like a movie versus if you're doing

1040
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 2: a television project or you know, a series project, are

1041
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 2: there different rules on how much you can add lib?

1042
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 2: If at all, it depends on your filmmakers. So it's

1043
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 2: not really movie versus television.

1044
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 3: No, no, not at all.

1045
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, it's your filmmakers. And I say filmmakers

1046
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,840
Speaker 1: is a broad term. You know, it's whoever's behind the

1047
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 1: writing on a TV show, whoever's behind the writing and

1048
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 1: directing in the feature.

1049
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:47,319
Speaker 3: What about this project? First of all, this.

1050
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 1: Project it was less about the words were so right

1051
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:57,799
Speaker 1: that they stuck. Brent mccorky's such a talented writer that

1052
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 1: the words stuck. I didn't have to search for them.

1053
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:05,400
Speaker 1: I wasn't struggling with retaining the words because they just

1054
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:08,240
Speaker 1: the rhythm of them, the cadence of them, the choice

1055
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 1: of them was right. And because of that, as I'm

1056
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 1: reading it, it's literally like, oh cool, got it.

1057
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:13,959
Speaker 3: It just sits in your head.

1058
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 1: But the way Tim is and you know Tim, like Tim,

1059
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 1: his brain is just constantly moving all the time, and

1060
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 1: he holds back on those things that his brain wants.

1061
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:25,759
Speaker 1: His brain wants to say, but his mouth won't allow

1062
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 1: him to. And so he and I would have a

1063
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 1: lot of asides where we'd find I'd find little moments

1064
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 1: to go touch off script and add something that's very

1065
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 1: Timmins into the.

1066
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 3: Scene. But it was stuff like that.

1067
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:43,239
Speaker 1: It wasn't like there wasn't a whole lot of ad

1068
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 1: living that was happening. It was just kind of like, well,

1069
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 1: this feels more like Tim. And I'd kind of confer

1070
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 1: with him first, and I talked to Brent and Andy

1071
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 1: and then I just kind of plug it in without

1072
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:57,399
Speaker 1: John Michael or Sammy Dell or Riel Kevil like doing

1073
00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, you're rewriting.

1074
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 3: No, not rewriting, I'm adding. But is that not a

1075
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 3: bit of supplement You're supplementing the writing.

1076
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 1: Sounds like it sounds like, yeah, I'm just trying to

1077
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 1: flesh it out. Yeah, because there's like an interpretation you

1078
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:13,839
Speaker 1: jump out as an actor and like, and I've been

1079
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:17,279
Speaker 1: on sets before, like you cannot change a punctuation. If

1080
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:20,320
Speaker 1: there's a period you take a pause, it says street,

1081
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 1: you can't say road. If it says pop, you can't

1082
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:26,320
Speaker 1: say soda. I've been on those jobs before, but also

1083
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:29,320
Speaker 1: on that job, that one particular job, the words again

1084
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 1: were right, and you don't need to muck them up.

1085
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 1: You just have to get them right in the cadence

1086
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 1: that they're asking you to do, maybe not asking or

1087
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:40,319
Speaker 1: telling you to do. And when you do it, you're

1088
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 1: actually a part of the vision of it and it

1089
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 1: becomes what it's supposed to be. What do you prefer

1090
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 1: either or man, I could, I could, I could dance

1091
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:51,400
Speaker 1: in any of these halls, doesn't matter to me, you know.

1092
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 1: I think it's good to have filmmakers that know exactly

1093
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 1: what they want. I think it's good to how filmmakers

1094
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:58,799
Speaker 1: are saying, make some choices for us. They put put

1095
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:00,839
Speaker 1: your flavor on it, you know, And like on this

1096
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 1: one that was Brenton Andy, those guys are like, hey,

1097
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 1: bring what you bring, you know, like here's the framework,

1098
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:10,879
Speaker 1: like we're here, but they're they're linking arms with you

1099
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 1: then kind of like putting a thumb over you saying

1100
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:13,759
Speaker 1: do it this way.

1101
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:16,919
Speaker 3: How do you feel about watching yourself back that's way

1102
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 3: too critical.

1103
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:21,319
Speaker 1: Last night at the premiere was the first time I'd

1104
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:23,799
Speaker 1: seen it on a big screen, and Andy had been

1105
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:25,400
Speaker 1: inviting me to see it on a big screen. I

1106
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:27,280
Speaker 1: only saw it on a screeners because you know, again

1107
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 1: like infant daughter and busy work life schedule, so I

1108
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:33,800
Speaker 1: just didn't have a chance to hop into a screening

1109
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:35,840
Speaker 1: room with him. But it was the first time I

1110
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 1: saw it on the big screen, and I was not

1111
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:42,880
Speaker 1: as critical of myself. I could actually watch and experience

1112
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:48,359
Speaker 1: what movie Tim was going through and everyone else, like

1113
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 1: all my friends on screen, John Michael and Sophie and

1114
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 1: Ariel and Sammy and trace Adkins. My goodness, like I

1115
00:51:56,040 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 1: saw what they were living on camera from the moment

1116
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:03,359
Speaker 1: I saw the film. But I always have a hard

1117
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 1: time with myself because like I'm in my head in

1118
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 1: my performance and you see how things are edited, and

1119
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 1: you're like, wait a minute, is that the choice that

1120
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:09,879
Speaker 1: I made?

1121
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 3: Is that?

1122
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 1: You know? But last night was the first time on

1123
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 1: a big screen where I was able to not look

1124
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 1: at what I was doing and just let movie Tim exist.

1125
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 1: And it was enjoyable and it was moving, and I've

1126
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 1: really felt the what Tim was going through.

1127
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 3: Is that personal growth that's allowed that I don't know.

1128
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:32,399
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's personal growth or just you know,

1129
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 1: something bigger than you know, seventy inches at home, but

1130
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 1: where I could see maybe like a little more nuance

1131
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 1: or detail, or maybe it's like that energy you get

1132
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:43,880
Speaker 1: watching a movie in a theater with people, which I

1133
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:46,920
Speaker 1: think is a powerful experience that is kind of lost

1134
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 1: in modern day or modern day, but in you know,

1135
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:52,879
Speaker 1: where we find ourselves in twenty twenty six. Everybody wants

1136
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 1: to comfort of their homes, which I get and I

1137
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:58,920
Speaker 1: enjoy myself. But being in a theater watching something with

1138
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:02,400
Speaker 1: a group of people collectively, there's an energy you feel,

1139
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:03,320
Speaker 1: and it's just different.

1140
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:05,840
Speaker 3: So I kind of felt it last time, which was cool.

1141
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:08,839
Speaker 2: Did you just have your first baby a year ago?

1142
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:11,720
Speaker 2: So we're about to have our first baby?

1143
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 3: No kidding? Soon?

1144
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:14,279
Speaker 1: How soon?

1145
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 3: Real soon?

1146
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:18,360
Speaker 1: How prepared you feel?

1147
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:22,759
Speaker 2: I have the understanding that I cannot feel prepared, yeah,

1148
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 2: and that I have done the things that would make

1149
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:29,400
Speaker 2: me feel prepared if I could feel prepared. But I

1150
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 2: feel like there is no being fully prepared. So that's

1151
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 2: why I'm asking you. You're on a time machine. You're

1152
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 2: a year ahead of me.

1153
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, what I would offer this, You can prepare, you

1154
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:41,800
Speaker 1: can't plan because your plans will change.

1155
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 3: And by the way, like your kid is in charge.

1156
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 1: Pick up the four cues when they're babies, of like

1157
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 1: what their cry means, doesnt mean they're hungry, uncomfortable, tired

1158
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 1: or gassie.

1159
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 3: Are those different cries?

1160
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:59,280
Speaker 1: They're way different cries and all four distinct when they're infants.

1161
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 1: When they're infants, all four of those are so distinct.

1162
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:03,440
Speaker 1: And if you kind of like paid, my wife is

1163
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:06,319
Speaker 1: amazing and she was able to coach me through these.

1164
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 1: She's like she's tired, and I'm like, how do you

1165
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:12,239
Speaker 1: know this? I'm like, Okay, she's tired, put her bed

1166
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:15,240
Speaker 1: in my arms, whatever, she's asleep, or like she's hungry.

1167
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:16,719
Speaker 3: I'm like, how do you know this?

1168
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:18,360
Speaker 1: She's hungry to get her bottle.

1169
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 3: She's good.

1170
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1171
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:19,959
Speaker 3: Women.

1172
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:23,359
Speaker 1: Women are Women are incredible creatures that just inherently feel

1173
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 1: these things as mothers and I will never as a father,

1174
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:26,440
Speaker 1: like really understand.

1175
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 3: But you learn as a dad, yeah beyond that. But

1176
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 3: like you can't you just can't plan.

1177
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 1: You have to prepare because in preparation you're ready for it,

1178
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:37,799
Speaker 1: and then be flexible to be like, you know what,

1179
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 1: oh baby, things didn't go the way I was thinking

1180
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 1: they were gonna go, and babies in charge and taking

1181
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:43,240
Speaker 1: us on a whole different direction.

1182
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 3: Cool, we're gonna go.

1183
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:47,719
Speaker 1: This way, you know, I would say it, you know,

1184
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:50,400
Speaker 1: and I'm new at this and we're just about to

1185
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 1: get into it again having the second one. But just

1186
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:58,399
Speaker 1: love that kid and just be happy and know you're

1187
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 1: not going to sleep and no, you're gonna do everything

1188
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 1: you can for the rest of your life to just

1189
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:10,240
Speaker 1: give to this kid and have fun. You know. Everybody

1190
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:13,279
Speaker 1: would tell me, like I remember, like my brother in

1191
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:16,279
Speaker 1: law he was holding holding on our daughter and you

1192
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 1: just see just loving his eyes and his kids, my

1193
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 1: niece and nephew are you know, late single digits, you know,

1194
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:27,400
Speaker 1: and double digits now, and he just remembers so reverently

1195
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:30,279
Speaker 1: that time when they're just babies, and like right now,

1196
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:32,720
Speaker 1: I just try and like look at my daughter, whether

1197
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:35,799
Speaker 1: she's crying and upset in my arms and just sit

1198
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 1: there and just kind of look at her and observe

1199
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:39,879
Speaker 1: her and be there and like try and connect with her,

1200
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 1: or she's asleep and peaceful and laughing in her sleep,

1201
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 1: like just I just stare at her. She's just she's

1202
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:47,799
Speaker 1: the coolest kid. So I'd say, just get into it.

1203
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 1: Soak it up. Man, that's gonna be whatever experience like

1204
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:54,399
Speaker 1: you have with your child. But just enjoy it.

1205
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:57,040
Speaker 3: Did you like the baby the first three to six months?

1206
00:55:57,080 --> 00:55:58,400
Speaker 1: Bro? It's so hard.

1207
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:00,719
Speaker 3: Because so from my wife and I.

1208
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:05,880
Speaker 1: My wife was nine months pregnant when we lost our

1209
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 1: house in California to the fires. Two weeks after that,

1210
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 1: our daughter was born, so we're in a rental house.

1211
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:15,319
Speaker 1: And also I was prepping. I can only imagine two

1212
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 1: the fires actually popped off. I was on a zoom

1213
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:21,840
Speaker 1: with Timmins, first time we'd ever like talk, you know,

1214
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 1: face to face in a way, and there's a fire

1215
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 1: behind my house and we got to go. So we

1216
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 1: had a lot happening in those first you know, i'd

1217
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 1: say four months lost the house, had the baby, traveled

1218
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:38,560
Speaker 1: across country by truck and trailer because we got a

1219
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 1: one hundred pound dog as well that we had to

1220
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 1: bring with us, and you know, get there safely and

1221
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:47,239
Speaker 1: got to Nashville. Dove right in on this movie, which

1222
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:54,239
Speaker 1: was just such a safe haven for me. I mean,

1223
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 1: everything Tim talks about, you know, in the course of

1224
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 1: the film, you know, God, us in the fire and

1225
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 1: all this stuff and holding even gratitude and like equal measure.

1226
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:06,880
Speaker 3: It was very healing to be a part of.

1227
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:10,759
Speaker 1: But also, you know, I wasn't necessarily thinking about, oh man,

1228
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:14,720
Speaker 1: I'm really not sleeping, and you know, again my wife

1229
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 1: allowing me to like go out and handle the mess

1230
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 1: of what the fires left us with and handle the

1231
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 1: art of what I have I'm faced with in the

1232
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:29,440
Speaker 1: music and the performance and all of that for the movie,

1233
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:32,440
Speaker 1: and then also just the safety of the family. You know,

1234
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 1: there was just there was so much. It was just hard.

1235
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 3: It's a bit of a blur.

1236
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 1: But when I do look back on photos and videos

1237
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 1: and everything, and like typically at night, my wife and

1238
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 1: I will be in bed and one of us will

1239
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:49,360
Speaker 1: have our phone and we'll come across like a photo

1240
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 1: of our daughter from whatever time in the last year,

1241
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 1: and either as we just kind of share it, you know,

1242
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 1: and talk about that moment, her hair, her smile, or

1243
00:57:57,360 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 1: her lap or how pissed off she was, any of

1244
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 1: that stuff, and like it's it's just fun to revisit.

1245
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:04,919
Speaker 1: But yeah, those first couple of months are hard.

1246
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 2: Man, I get into the whole existential thing, like, you know,

1247
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:11,360
Speaker 2: the baby didn't choose. I didn't choose to be to exist,

1248
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:14,040
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden you're just thrust into existence

1249
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 2: and expected to figure out your path.

1250
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 1: You know.

1251
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 2: The good news though, please, I need it because I

1252
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:21,600
Speaker 2: started getting these existential dots.

1253
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:23,040
Speaker 3: I'm like, I need some good news.

1254
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:26,640
Speaker 1: Everybody's done it. You know, you're not the first one

1255
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:28,440
Speaker 1: to go through this. You're not the only one to

1256
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 1: go through this. There's other people before us that I

1257
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 1: have done it under worse circumstances and better circumstances. So

1258
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:37,760
Speaker 1: you get to have this journey with your kid, which

1259
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:41,920
Speaker 1: is wonderful and unique and yours and your partners, and

1260
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:46,920
Speaker 1: you know, it's just it's a beautiful and amazing thing.

1261
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:48,840
Speaker 1: I mean, I had kids late in life. I was

1262
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:49,439
Speaker 1: forty eight.

1263
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 3: When our daughter was born. Yeah, I'll be forty five.

1264
00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 3: There you go.

1265
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:54,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, and it's different when you're a fully

1266
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:56,560
Speaker 1: shaped human being and as a man, like you're at

1267
00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 1: a point like a, my life is good and like WHOA,

1268
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 1: I didn't think life could change as drastically as it

1269
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 1: just has. But you know what, I'm here for it

1270
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:06,440
Speaker 1: and I love it and I'm into it and I

1271
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 1: wouldn't give it up for anything. You know, that's crazy.

1272
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 3: You're forty eight or forty nine, Like you look like

1273
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:17,200
Speaker 3: you're like thirty one. Thanks, man, what's the skincare routine?

1274
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 3: I had? Moisturized and good living.

1275
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 1: I guess that I was drinking on through drugs, try

1276
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:25,960
Speaker 1: and stay healthy, eat well, you hitting the gym I

1277
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 1: have been recently when we were doing this film, I

1278
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 1: actually had to back off on weight because I wanted

1279
00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:34,320
Speaker 1: to lean into the cancer journey that Tim was in

1280
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 1: and also too, like I'd seen a whole bunch of

1281
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 1: just photos of him when he was in his thirties,

1282
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:42,080
Speaker 1: which I was playing that era, and Tim was just

1283
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 1: a thinner, trimmer dude. And you know, not that I

1284
00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 1: live at a gym, but like I like to just

1285
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:50,920
Speaker 1: stay healthy, and so I backed off. But now more recently,

1286
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:53,280
Speaker 1: like my next job coming, like I got to pack

1287
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:56,680
Speaker 1: weight back on. So yeah, hitting the gym and just

1288
00:59:56,760 --> 01:00:01,120
Speaker 1: eating right, like I said, moisturize, sunscreen, drink.

1289
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 3: A lot of water. Yeah, the water.

1290
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:05,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the two fundamental things that should be the

1291
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:07,600
Speaker 2: easiest or off of the things we do.

1292
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:10,040
Speaker 3: Uh not as much, which.

1293
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:12,720
Speaker 2: Are drink water and sleep? Oh, totally because we think, oh,

1294
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:14,160
Speaker 2: we can always catch up on that. It's so easy

1295
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:16,840
Speaker 2: to get water if I sleep tonight. But those are

1296
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:18,360
Speaker 2: like the two most important things, totally.

1297
01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:19,360
Speaker 3: Like I think my watch told me.

1298
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:22,280
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, you're a you're a You got

1299
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:24,120
Speaker 1: four hours of sleep last night, and I'm like, I did,

1300
01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:26,520
Speaker 1: like so much. So, like I woke up this morning,

1301
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:28,280
Speaker 1: my daughter was on my chest. I'm like, wait, I

1302
01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:29,320
Speaker 1: don't remember grabbing her.

1303
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:31,480
Speaker 3: What time is it? What time would be up?

1304
01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:31,760
Speaker 1: Oh?

1305
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:34,120
Speaker 3: Okay, And I look at my wash and I was like, oh, yeah,

1306
01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:37,760
Speaker 3: you got four hours. Yeah I wore the or ring. Yeah, yeah,

1307
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:38,040
Speaker 3: I saw.

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01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:41,440
Speaker 2: What I like about it is if I wake up

1309
01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:43,280
Speaker 2: and I feel a little tired and it tells me

1310
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:45,960
Speaker 2: I got good sleep, I'll just be better. I'll be like, well,

1311
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:47,440
Speaker 2: I have the data. But the problem is if I

1312
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:49,200
Speaker 2: wake up I feel pretty good and it's like, well,

1313
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:51,040
Speaker 2: you didn't get enough. I'm like, you know, I was thinking,

1314
01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:53,000
Speaker 2: I am kind of feeling bad. I'll let it convince

1315
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:53,600
Speaker 2: me which.

1316
01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:55,200
Speaker 1: Way to go. So my wife wears an orts too,

1317
01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:57,360
Speaker 1: and she's the same thing, and I'm like, don't.

1318
01:00:57,240 --> 01:00:59,480
Speaker 3: Let it rule you feel.

1319
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:03,320
Speaker 1: It's amazing though, the influence something can have in our

1320
01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:05,640
Speaker 1: brain and make our bodies feel something. What if it's

1321
01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:08,800
Speaker 1: the other way around, where we influence ourselves positively to

1322
01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:12,880
Speaker 1: feel good. Like there's something about that brain body connection

1323
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:17,360
Speaker 1: where we're able to really and brain body existence where

1324
01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:20,800
Speaker 1: we're able to impact things. It's like, you walk into

1325
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 1: a bad situation, think positively. You think positively about the

1326
01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:26,160
Speaker 1: situation you're going into. It's like, hey, maybe things are

1327
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:30,000
Speaker 1: actually gonna end up on the right side. Maybe you

1328
01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:32,200
Speaker 1: won't feel as tired. You know, like I didn't get

1329
01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:35,280
Speaker 1: a great amount of sleep, but you know what, got

1330
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:37,640
Speaker 1: a little when I woke up, and I'm here.

1331
01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:42,880
Speaker 3: Grateful for that. Yeah, I'm a big perspective guy. Yeah,

1332
01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:43,440
Speaker 3: I'm a.

1333
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:47,720
Speaker 2: Big There is a way this situation could create something

1334
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:49,760
Speaker 2: awesome for me, depending on the situation.

1335
01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:52,400
Speaker 3: Huh. So I'm a big perspective guy. I was.

1336
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:54,040
Speaker 2: I was recently talking about this with a friend of

1337
01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:58,000
Speaker 2: mine and he had been through He lives in la

1338
01:01:58,120 --> 01:02:02,160
Speaker 2: as a big television He's hosted so many major shows.

1339
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:05,080
Speaker 2: I was talking to him about all the nose that

1340
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:07,200
Speaker 2: he would get, and I think that's probably something common

1341
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:09,880
Speaker 2: to one hundred percent, because I would see you and

1342
01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:12,360
Speaker 2: I would be like, man, this guy's acted such high

1343
01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:13,280
Speaker 2: level so many things.

1344
01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:14,960
Speaker 3: I know him from all these things, there's probably never

1345
01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:15,600
Speaker 3: a no that come.

1346
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:20,439
Speaker 1: So there's probably about well, it depends on what point

1347
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:23,600
Speaker 1: in my career early days, probably about ninety nine nos

1348
01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:24,479
Speaker 1: before I get a yes.

1349
01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:27,040
Speaker 3: As years march on, maybe about.

1350
01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:31,040
Speaker 1: Sixty, maybe it's about forty, maybe it's twenty ten two.

1351
01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:33,520
Speaker 1: And then at a certain point it kind of ships over.

1352
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:37,120
Speaker 1: Things just show up for you and it's not a no,

1353
01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:39,600
Speaker 1: but you're kind of like, I got through that. I

1354
01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:42,160
Speaker 1: got through those trials. I'm on the other side of

1355
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:45,960
Speaker 1: it now. But still it doesn't change my work ethic

1356
01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:49,480
Speaker 1: approaching it. It's like, hey, I'm grateful to be here.

1357
01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:52,200
Speaker 1: May I be an offer, But I've had my nose,

1358
01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:53,520
Speaker 1: so I know what that feels like.

1359
01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:56,720
Speaker 3: So to be given a gift.

1360
01:02:56,440 --> 01:03:00,720
Speaker 1: Like this movie or a role or an opportunity, I'm like, oh,

1361
01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:03,800
Speaker 1: I've not only earned it, but I'm going to be

1362
01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:07,280
Speaker 1: grateful for this thing that's offered or put in front

1363
01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:08,640
Speaker 1: of me, and I'm going to put my whole heart

1364
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:11,520
Speaker 1: into It's kind of like, you know, why spend your

1365
01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:14,240
Speaker 1: time and your energy on someone that doesn't want you,

1366
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:15,760
Speaker 1: doesn't want to be around you.

1367
01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:16,840
Speaker 3: You know, it's kind of like.

1368
01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:19,600
Speaker 1: You know, I tell like like my god kids or

1369
01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:22,720
Speaker 1: things like that. You know, they're teenagers, Like that boy's

1370
01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:24,440
Speaker 1: not good for you. He's not giving you the proper attention.

1371
01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:26,440
Speaker 1: Why I put your energy into him? If you know,

1372
01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:29,280
Speaker 1: or her, If they're not giving energy to you. It's

1373
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:31,400
Speaker 1: like if there's people giving you energy, it's like, hey.

1374
01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:34,120
Speaker 3: Pick up on that, be aware of it. Perspective point

1375
01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:34,520
Speaker 3: of view.

1376
01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:34,920
Speaker 1: You know.

1377
01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:38,400
Speaker 4: Let's take a quick pause for a message from our sponsor,

1378
01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:49,880
Speaker 4: and we're back on the Bobby Cast.

1379
01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:52,920
Speaker 2: What did you take from this movie? I want to

1380
01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:55,120
Speaker 2: end with this, like, what what did you take from

1381
01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:58,080
Speaker 2: not only learning the story but also being a part

1382
01:03:58,120 --> 01:03:58,960
Speaker 2: of the story.

1383
01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:01,680
Speaker 1: I don't know if it is it taking as much

1384
01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:03,800
Speaker 1: and I've said this before, but I truly believe it

1385
01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:07,400
Speaker 1: a little more of an affirmation of how I already lived,

1386
01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:13,280
Speaker 1: which is holding gratitude and grief together, understanding that two

1387
01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:15,640
Speaker 1: things that are completely opposite can actually coexist at the

1388
01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:20,920
Speaker 1: same time. And we have the opportunity with whatever is

1389
01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:23,440
Speaker 1: presented to us, whatever is put in front of us,

1390
01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:27,440
Speaker 1: obstacle wall, whatever you want to liken it to sickness

1391
01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:31,480
Speaker 1: and ailment, difficult times, You're able to get through it.

1392
01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:34,680
Speaker 1: You're able to get around it. You're able to just

1393
01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:40,280
Speaker 1: get through it in a way that will hopefully leave

1394
01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:44,600
Speaker 1: the place better than you found it. That's kind of

1395
01:04:44,640 --> 01:04:47,760
Speaker 1: always how i'd been and watching a man like Tim Timmins,

1396
01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:52,120
Speaker 1: you know, take such a difficult sentence as hey, terminal

1397
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:56,320
Speaker 1: cancer five years, that's what you got, turn it into

1398
01:04:56,360 --> 01:05:00,640
Speaker 1: this beautiful life of just giving and serving. I think

1399
01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:05,640
Speaker 1: affirmed how I try to be without the cancer presence.

1400
01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:10,040
Speaker 1: You know. I like going into work in a room

1401
01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:11,680
Speaker 1: and just company and be like, hey man, what can

1402
01:05:11,720 --> 01:05:14,200
Speaker 1: I do for you? How can I serve you?

1403
01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:14,400
Speaker 3: You know?

1404
01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:17,480
Speaker 1: So I think this film was very much for me

1405
01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:20,680
Speaker 1: an affirmation of, Oh, I think I'm on the right path.

1406
01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:24,080
Speaker 1: I think I'm doing pretty good. Let me just keep

1407
01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:27,200
Speaker 1: in the direction that I'm going, knowing that, oh, there's

1408
01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:30,000
Speaker 1: other people out there doing the exact same thing, it's

1409
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:34,120
Speaker 1: just labeled differently, you know. So that's kind of what

1410
01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:38,000
Speaker 1: I'm taking from it, or actually what I'm giving from it.

1411
01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:41,480
Speaker 2: He congrats on the movie, Congrats, and also congrats on

1412
01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:44,800
Speaker 2: as you were talking earlier about Will Smith being that

1413
01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:48,640
Speaker 2: way a lot of times. I'm not putting you in this,

1414
01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:50,920
Speaker 2: but I'll say, Hollywood folks come in and have a

1415
01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:51,960
Speaker 2: different aura about them.

1416
01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:56,160
Speaker 3: Oh good yours was awesome, thanks man. It was extremely warm.

1417
01:05:55,960 --> 01:06:00,840
Speaker 2: And it was very instantly kind, and you know, just

1418
01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:03,120
Speaker 2: a business. You know, we ever see each other again,

1419
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:05,880
Speaker 2: and you know that too. But you were, Yeah, just

1420
01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:08,680
Speaker 2: a delight off camera too. So I want to say

1421
01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:10,760
Speaker 2: that on camera so people know, like that, that's what

1422
01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:11,640
Speaker 2: you're saying.

1423
01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:12,360
Speaker 3: There about that movie.

1424
01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:15,640
Speaker 2: I was thinking, you actually do live that because when

1425
01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:17,800
Speaker 2: you entered the room it felt like that with you.

1426
01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:20,520
Speaker 1: So I appreciate that problem. And you mind if I

1427
01:06:20,680 --> 01:06:22,240
Speaker 1: leave us with a quick Trace acting.

1428
01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:25,840
Speaker 3: Story, Yes I do.

1429
01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:27,880
Speaker 2: Can I tell one first and you tell a better one?

1430
01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:31,280
Speaker 2: Because I know Trace. I have known Trace for a

1431
01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:36,120
Speaker 2: long time. And uh I saw Trace at the Grand

1432
01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:38,040
Speaker 2: Ole Opry. We were both playing the show, probably about

1433
01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:40,840
Speaker 2: two months ago. I was playing a little before him,

1434
01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:42,720
Speaker 2: but he was side stages. I was coming off. I

1435
01:06:42,720 --> 01:06:46,400
Speaker 2: was telling some jokes, playing low guitar song. He's like, right,

1436
01:06:48,520 --> 01:06:54,240
Speaker 2: them shoes you wear those women shoes? And I said, Trace, Yeah,

1437
01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:56,920
Speaker 2: I said they are not women shoes. He goes, they

1438
01:06:57,040 --> 01:07:01,520
Speaker 2: should be women shoes. And so I said, now, Trace,

1439
01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:04,080
Speaker 2: you know, I like to like to dress nice. And

1440
01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:06,280
Speaker 2: he said, you see these and he had an old

1441
01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:09,800
Speaker 2: pair of boots on. So these are my favorite old boots,

1442
01:07:10,080 --> 01:07:12,440
Speaker 2: I said, pair of Justin's. I said, what makes him

1443
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:15,400
Speaker 2: your favorite? He goes, well, I recently almost died at

1444
01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:17,320
Speaker 2: him and said what happened?

1445
01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:18,960
Speaker 3: He goes, well, was this when he got shot through

1446
01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:19,400
Speaker 3: the heart?

1447
01:07:19,520 --> 01:07:22,160
Speaker 2: No, this is like he was on a cane at

1448
01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:24,920
Speaker 2: the opery, and this is like three weeks prior.

1449
01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:27,680
Speaker 3: And I said, what do you mean this when he fell? Yes,

1450
01:07:27,800 --> 01:07:29,480
Speaker 3: he said they were working.

1451
01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:32,640
Speaker 2: They're working on my roof, and I needed to get

1452
01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:34,480
Speaker 2: up there and see if they were doing a good job.

1453
01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:36,760
Speaker 2: So I got up there, climbed up to see if

1454
01:07:36,760 --> 01:07:38,800
Speaker 2: they were doing a good job. And next thing I knew,

1455
01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:40,640
Speaker 2: I was on my back, but I had my boots on.

1456
01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:42,840
Speaker 2: These are my lucky boots. I'm here today.

1457
01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:46,520
Speaker 3: And he might have said it probably a little more colorfully.

1458
01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:47,480
Speaker 3: He definitely did.

1459
01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:49,320
Speaker 1: I know. I know exactly the line that he used

1460
01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:51,080
Speaker 1: and make it more colorfully, which we won't talk about.

1461
01:07:51,120 --> 01:07:53,640
Speaker 3: So it made fun of my shoes. He then told

1462
01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:54,440
Speaker 3: me a funny.

1463
01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:57,520
Speaker 2: Story, and he ended it with I wear these boots

1464
01:07:57,520 --> 01:07:59,520
Speaker 2: when good times here at the stage and when I'm

1465
01:07:59,560 --> 01:08:02,080
Speaker 2: working out, when working out at the house. And I

1466
01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:04,320
Speaker 2: met him tonight and I it's just a total Trace

1467
01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:06,040
Speaker 2: three sixty and always.

1468
01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:06,520
Speaker 3: Trace is the best.

1469
01:08:06,560 --> 01:08:09,640
Speaker 1: He uh some some a quick little thing in in

1470
01:08:09,720 --> 01:08:13,840
Speaker 1: line with Hollywood folk. I'm the outsider on this set,

1471
01:08:14,320 --> 01:08:19,160
Speaker 1: complete outsider. I'm from California. You are in Nashville. Like,

1472
01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:24,040
Speaker 1: so let's start with that. So I think Trace might

1473
01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:26,439
Speaker 1: have said to Andy Irwin, I don't know about this

1474
01:08:26,840 --> 01:08:32,320
Speaker 1: fucking Hollywood kid. I'm like, I'm actually not from Hollywood, California.

1475
01:08:33,360 --> 01:08:35,400
Speaker 1: But he kind of like and what I mean, Hey, Trace, Hey,

1476
01:08:35,439 --> 01:08:38,800
Speaker 1: I'm mileing nice to meet you, you know, just kind

1477
01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:42,439
Speaker 1: of grumbled and I'm like, Trace Akins is cool. Whatever.

1478
01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:44,280
Speaker 3: That.

1479
01:08:44,680 --> 01:08:46,960
Speaker 1: After that first couple of days of filming, I'd go

1480
01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:50,439
Speaker 1: to the Guitar Center in Nashville to go pick up

1481
01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:53,040
Speaker 1: a few things that I just I needed for my guitar.

1482
01:08:54,200 --> 01:08:58,439
Speaker 1: And I'm about to check out counter and uh, as

1483
01:08:58,439 --> 01:08:59,960
Speaker 1: I'm paying for my things, like at the end of

1484
01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:03,680
Speaker 1: the transaction, the gent behind the register says to me,

1485
01:09:03,720 --> 01:09:07,040
Speaker 1: he goes, hey, do you want to donate you know,

1486
01:09:07,160 --> 01:09:08,960
Speaker 1: a dollar or two whatever too, And before he said

1487
01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:10,639
Speaker 1: I'm like yeah, sure. He goes to the fire relief

1488
01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:12,960
Speaker 1: on in California. I say, hold on a second, absolutely

1489
01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:16,360
Speaker 1: fucking not. Sorry for my language, Okay, clear, I'm like,

1490
01:09:16,439 --> 01:09:18,880
Speaker 1: absolutely fucking not. The guy looks at me. I said,

1491
01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:21,360
Speaker 1: I lost a house. I lost two houses in that fire.

1492
01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:24,920
Speaker 1: I doubt I'm gonna ever see a cent from guitar Center,

1493
01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:27,439
Speaker 1: So no, thank you. I would like to not donate

1494
01:09:27,520 --> 01:09:29,360
Speaker 1: money to my own house that I lost. And thin

1495
01:09:29,400 --> 01:09:33,120
Speaker 1: guy was like, oh okay. I'm like and that was it.

1496
01:09:33,280 --> 01:09:35,639
Speaker 1: That was like my interaction a guitar center. I'm like, wow,

1497
01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:39,160
Speaker 1: where is that money going? And you started kind of

1498
01:09:39,200 --> 01:09:41,639
Speaker 1: like unwrapping those things, like where are people like picking

1499
01:09:41,720 --> 01:09:42,960
Speaker 1: up off of the calamity of others?

1500
01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:45,479
Speaker 3: And this is horrible. So I go to work. The

1501
01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:46,040
Speaker 3: next day.

1502
01:09:46,800 --> 01:09:50,200
Speaker 1: We're filming the big bus bonfire scene. Bus breaks down

1503
01:09:50,280 --> 01:09:53,679
Speaker 1: run you know, night under this overpass and it's like cold,

1504
01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:56,280
Speaker 1: is dark, and you know, I really hadn't had much

1505
01:09:56,360 --> 01:10:01,080
Speaker 1: interaction again with Trace, and he walks right up to

1506
01:10:01,160 --> 01:10:03,320
Speaker 1: me within his Justin's boots.

1507
01:10:03,760 --> 01:10:07,200
Speaker 3: I heard your house burned down. Mine burned down too.

1508
01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:10,120
Speaker 3: That was it.

1509
01:10:10,439 --> 01:10:13,840
Speaker 1: And like after that, dude, he was my boy, and

1510
01:10:13,880 --> 01:10:15,719
Speaker 1: I think he kind of figured and he and later

1511
01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:16,960
Speaker 1: on I'm like, hey what and he goes, well, I

1512
01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:19,320
Speaker 1: heard your house, but I heard you told some sales

1513
01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:21,040
Speaker 1: assistant go fuck himself.

1514
01:10:22,240 --> 01:10:24,800
Speaker 3: Because he wanted your money and your house burned down.

1515
01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:27,840
Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah, like Trace, look man, I'm

1516
01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:30,760
Speaker 1: like it doesn't make sense. Done that up as bad math?

1517
01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:32,840
Speaker 1: A stallone would call it, you know, it's bad math.

1518
01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:34,960
Speaker 1: And he's like I like that. Yeah.

1519
01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:38,120
Speaker 2: I feel like Trace is a guy who nobody gets

1520
01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:40,280
Speaker 2: the free pass or the benefit of the doubt, but

1521
01:10:40,360 --> 01:10:43,479
Speaker 2: once there is an understanding of what everybody's about, Like

1522
01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:44,000
Speaker 2: he is in.

1523
01:10:44,280 --> 01:10:46,439
Speaker 3: Oh, he's so in. He's in, and he's your dude.

1524
01:10:46,479 --> 01:10:47,960
Speaker 1: I mean. And even last night we're on you know,

1525
01:10:47,960 --> 01:10:50,000
Speaker 1: we're on the press line and there's a Bunchers lined

1526
01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:52,880
Speaker 1: up and hey, mil hey, Trace, what's up? Man?

1527
01:10:52,920 --> 01:10:54,760
Speaker 3: Haven't give you a hug yet? Your wife leave you yet?

1528
01:10:54,840 --> 01:10:55,559
Speaker 3: Not yet? Trace?

1529
01:10:56,360 --> 01:10:58,880
Speaker 1: Okay, let me know what she does. I'm like, okay, Trace,

1530
01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:01,120
Speaker 1: I'm like, she's the pregnant lady over there. I'm thinking

1531
01:11:01,360 --> 01:11:04,160
Speaker 1: she's in for a little bit. Yeah, But then later on,

1532
01:11:04,240 --> 01:11:06,759
Speaker 1: you know it's like when like the quiet moment happens,

1533
01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:09,280
Speaker 1: you know, for a guy like Tray Satkins who's lived

1534
01:11:09,280 --> 01:11:11,200
Speaker 1: the luft that he's had had successful, he's had to

1535
01:11:11,240 --> 01:11:14,160
Speaker 1: like just come up in like a quiet intimate moment

1536
01:11:14,200 --> 01:11:17,439
Speaker 1: where he's like, how you doing, how's things? How's your house?

1537
01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:20,559
Speaker 1: Like You'm like, wow, dude, this guy is he He

1538
01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:24,320
Speaker 1: cares so deeply, you know, and you're right like once

1539
01:11:24,360 --> 01:11:25,639
Speaker 1: you're in, like you are in.

1540
01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:26,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love him.

1541
01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:27,479
Speaker 1: He's the best.

1542
01:11:27,479 --> 01:11:29,160
Speaker 3: I love him. I didn't could.

1543
01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:30,800
Speaker 2: I didn't understand him at first, and he wanted to

1544
01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:32,639
Speaker 2: kill me at first. But now so you've just done

1545
01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:35,360
Speaker 2: enough together. Now there's an absolute understanding, Like I'm the

1546
01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:36,680
Speaker 2: guy that wars the card again. Then he wears the

1547
01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:38,559
Speaker 2: cowboy hat and as the cowboy. But it's like we

1548
01:11:38,600 --> 01:11:41,479
Speaker 2: both know we have very much the same values with people. Yeah,

1549
01:11:41,520 --> 01:11:43,439
Speaker 2: and that's what it is to him. I really appreciate this, mind.

1550
01:11:43,479 --> 01:11:45,720
Speaker 2: I hope the movie does exactly what you wanted to do.

1551
01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:48,280
Speaker 2: A big fan of your work. Thanks, thanks for stopping

1552
01:11:48,280 --> 01:11:48,479
Speaker 2: by the

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01:11:48,479 --> 01:11:51,680
Speaker 4: Show Man, Thanks for having me, Thanks for listening to

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Speaker 4: a Bobby cast production