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Speaker 1: Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon Gross. Taco Tuesday,
Speaker 1: did you see your boy Taco? CHARLTI get a strip
Speaker 1: sack last night, rip sack Tuesday night. Okay, one talk
Speaker 1: child got last night a strip saying I don't know
Speaker 1: what's going on with our audio computer. Eighty five different times?
Speaker 1: It right? Professional, professional? But some days some days? Is me? Chris?
Speaker 1: Be right? Are we just ran game today? It was
Speaker 1: just a right game. And after all that, Chris said
Speaker 1: he's got to reset. Jesse's live you because, oh man,
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on anyway, how you guys
Speaker 1: do Welcome to Welcome to the s WBC Mortgage living
Speaker 1: room here in Frisco, Texas. There we go, let's reset.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, Kurt, how are you are you good today?
Speaker 1: Good Man? I'm doing fine, doing fine. How are you?
Speaker 1: I'm great? Nate you there, I'm good man. I'm good.
Speaker 1: Watched you great games last night. I have some good football, Jesse.
Speaker 1: We had yeah, okay, okay, we can hear you. We
Speaker 1: can hear you, but I don't think that anybody else can.
Speaker 1: So Chris is resetting you. So let's let's yeah, man,
Speaker 1: this is a disaster. Taco tart has a strip sack.
Speaker 1: You know it's gonna be a crazy day the next
Speaker 1: day of work. Oh, fellas, let's while we wait on Jesse.
Speaker 1: What'd you have for dinner last night? Nate? Oh, man, steak, Man,
Speaker 1: like a che bone steak and you know, salad and fry. Yeah. Man,
Speaker 1: my wife, you know she cook a couple of steaks
Speaker 1: other day. You know we hit it had the chee
Speaker 1: bone and you know, you know part of that. Man,
Speaker 1: And you m oh, good at me, Shanna, maybe working
Speaker 1: man the run game. I'm gonna stop the run game.
Speaker 1: Leave that. I'm stop a Kurt. You're good. What do
Speaker 1: you have for dinner? I'm good? What did I? I
Speaker 1: had some some pasta actually a little afraid of sauce pastas.
Speaker 1: Pretty nice, pretty nice. I didn't I didn't dive into
Speaker 1: the two football games last night. I was kind of
Speaker 1: flipping around back and forth. With the baseball playoffs, So
Speaker 1: I didn't I need to get caught up on the
Speaker 1: taco Charlton plays highlights. Mmm mmmmmm, Nate, what what is it?
Speaker 1: What is it that a guy can cannot be? I
Speaker 1: see wing stop there, Nate, that's a nice looking poster.
Speaker 1: That's a nice looking poster. What is it where a
Speaker 1: guy appreciated? A guy can not fit into a couple
Speaker 1: of a couple of teams or the schemes or whatever,
Speaker 1: and then can go somewhere else and find success. Is
Speaker 1: there is there a rhyme reason into it? Or did
Speaker 1: some guys just fit better with certain cultures? Okay? What
Speaker 1: it is a lot of times sometimes guys have to
Speaker 1: mature and then some guys have to have to see
Speaker 1: how true professionals run their locker room. How they're not
Speaker 1: They're not worried about how they dress and how they look.
Speaker 1: They're worried about can you make a sack and make
Speaker 1: a play. That's the culture of the locker room. The
Speaker 1: coaches will tell you what they expect, the players know
Speaker 1: what they expect from you, and you come in and
Speaker 1: you do your job. Sometimes it's maturity on a player,
Speaker 1: But a lot of times that is the culture of
Speaker 1: your locker room. You gotta remember, just three years ago,
Speaker 1: everybody was talking about how bad the Kansas City Chiefs
Speaker 1: defense was. But the last few years they're one of
Speaker 1: the best situational defenses in the league. And they get
Speaker 1: they play tight ball now. So Taco know his job.
Speaker 1: He know that he gonna If Kansas sending let Taco go,
Speaker 1: he won't play again because they've been brother, you went
Speaker 1: where you you If you failed, it has to be
Speaker 1: on you. So that fellas, I would like to love
Speaker 1: you on that. Nate, go ahead and welcome, Welcome back
Speaker 1: to the show, Jesse Holley, Ladies and gentlemen, Jesse Hall
Speaker 1: back on the show. Go ahead, Jesse. He finally we
Speaker 1: finally got him off the porch. Yeah, got me off
Speaker 1: the porch. And Nate, I second, I second what you say, Nate,
Speaker 1: And I applied that same logic to one Earl Thomas.
Speaker 1: When you go to an organization and a culture like
Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens, who had for at least for the
Speaker 1: last ten twelve years, has been renowned and known for
Speaker 1: their culture, for their presence, for their defense, for everything
Speaker 1: good to come out of that organization from leadership on
Speaker 1: down to the locker room and when they let you go,
Speaker 1: when they cut you and eat the money and just say,
Speaker 1: you know what, We're gonna eat whatever money we owe you.
Speaker 1: But you can't be in this culture. That right there
Speaker 1: is a telltale signed to a bunch of teams in
Speaker 1: the league. If you can't make it there in that
Speaker 1: culture and that defense, with that type of leadership, maybe
Speaker 1: maybe we shouldn't touch you. Maybe maybe. And this is
Speaker 1: why you don't see Earl Thomas getting workouts, So you
Speaker 1: want to bring them here to Dallas. And I get
Speaker 1: people saying, people are saying, you know, fter culture and
Speaker 1: f the locker room and f all this and forget
Speaker 1: all this. It's all about getting on the field. But
Speaker 1: I'm telling you it's things like that when you see
Speaker 1: organization like the Baltimore Ravens and what they mean and
Speaker 1: what they bring and how they're builting, how they run
Speaker 1: their system, and they say, you know what, dude, you
Speaker 1: don't fit here with us. Despite whatever you may be,
Speaker 1: this isn't the place for you. And that's why you
Speaker 1: probably see a guy like Earl Thomas still sitting at
Speaker 1: home on the couch watching games like us on Sunday.
Speaker 1: So here's saying that this team doesn't have the culture. Hell, no,
Speaker 1: say is that a work in progress? That can that be? Uh?
Speaker 1: That doesn't sound like an easy change, an easy overnight fix.
Speaker 1: It's not Coultures never, coultures never. It didn't happen overnight,
Speaker 1: and you can't fix it overnight. It's gonna take some
Speaker 1: time for it for it to evolve. And you know
Speaker 1: the great Troy ait Man, he was on one of
Speaker 1: the stations locally here. He was talking about what he saw. Defensively,
Speaker 1: he said it just the effort. Wasn't there a lot
Speaker 1: of hero ball? And I just tell you that's a
Speaker 1: culture that has been long formed over time and you
Speaker 1: still see it spilling over in the game today. And
Speaker 1: so again, it didn't take It didn't happen overnight, and
Speaker 1: you ain't changing it overnight. And I don't care what
Speaker 1: coach you bring in here. You can bring in Jesus
Speaker 1: Christ himself, and I know he turned water into wine
Speaker 1: like this, and I know that he's trust me. This
Speaker 1: is what this group. Even Jesus gonna need about three days.
Speaker 1: He gonna need a couple of days. He gonna need
Speaker 1: a couple of days to get this thing right, can
Speaker 1: see more run orienting? Who that Jesus? Oh, Jesus, has he? Hell? Mary?
Speaker 1: You know he passed first. He thought blesses left and right. Baby,
Speaker 1: he thought them blesses left and right. He rang, he
Speaker 1: ranged them blesses down on everybody. He passed first naked.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you something, Fellas And on a serious note, Uh,
Speaker 1: when you don't have your star players performing, what do
Speaker 1: you expect from the other guys? You know, we we
Speaker 1: don't have our star players performing, and we only have one.
Speaker 1: That's the Marcus Lawrence. All the other stuff don't don't.
Speaker 1: Don't do that. So Lawrence Lawrence had a quote came
Speaker 1: out yesterday. He said, it's not my job to worry
Speaker 1: about scheme or worry about where the next man is going.
Speaker 1: I already have a hard enough job myself. It's all
Speaker 1: about just attacking, and I don't feel like we're doing
Speaker 1: that all as a unit. Now I get what he's saying.
Speaker 1: He has to get it, He has to get himself
Speaker 1: right for it. He has to do his job. But
Speaker 1: as a leader on this team, shouldn't he be worried
Speaker 1: about his teammates and Ray Lewis. Would Ray Lewis have
Speaker 1: said that, I wouldn't think so what laj said that late? Nah? Nah? What? What?
Speaker 1: What The problem is here is he has the line
Speaker 1: up and through his leadership of performance, then the rest
Speaker 1: will speak for itself. Great players don't worry about systems.
Speaker 1: Great players are the system. And we've paid him to
Speaker 1: be a great player and he's not dominating. So yes,
Speaker 1: now he's worried about whether he's lined up right or wrong.
Speaker 1: That shouldn't matter. If you're a freak and we're playing you,
Speaker 1: pinn you like a freak. Number Number ninety five went on.
Speaker 1: You know he stayed predominantly on our right tackle, but
Speaker 1: he moved around just a little bit. He has that
Speaker 1: are about him that you have to know where he's at.
Speaker 1: That they're double teaming me. No they're not. But I
Speaker 1: can see you right now shooting the wrong gap and
Speaker 1: getting washed down and the guy's breaking outside running for
Speaker 1: twenty five yards. So you have to fix you first.
Speaker 1: I said it yesterday and I said again to day.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say it all week. Each player has to
Speaker 1: take upon himself to do his job. If his extra
Speaker 1: film work that will help him. He has to do that.
Speaker 1: If it's extra running, Ontario, do Ontario. If it's extra run,
Speaker 1: you have to do that. I'm just being honest. I'm
Speaker 1: just being honest. I'm just being honest. Oh I love
Speaker 1: I love petty name. I love. This is my favorite name.
Speaker 1: You know. I listened to a guy yesterday said the offense,
Speaker 1: the offense can't put the ball on the ground. I agree,
Speaker 1: But you asking our offense to play perfect if you're
Speaker 1: gonna give up over one hundred and fifty yards a game,
Speaker 1: Russian and people are gonna throw for four hundred yards
Speaker 1: a game, and more important than they're gonna get five
Speaker 1: TVs a game. They said, well, the offense putting the
Speaker 1: ball on the ground, And I say, okay, I agree
Speaker 1: with that. You're saying they got to play perfect, zero interceptions,
Speaker 1: zero fumbles. They're like, yeah, they got to I say, well,
Speaker 1: they goes to defense, right. We've made it where our
Speaker 1: defense can do anything they want. That's why I talk
Speaker 1: with y'lding somewhere else getting striped sacks, and we got
Speaker 1: what we got done. Donet Lawrence. I mean he said
Speaker 1: yesterday too that this team was soft, or after the
Speaker 1: game he said they were soft I mean he's got
Speaker 1: to do more than that now. I mean he can't
Speaker 1: just take care of himself as a leader on this team.
Speaker 1: What does he have to do now in the locker rooms,
Speaker 1: you gotta go up and say you're soft, play your
Speaker 1: position and get you a couple of sacks. Change the game. Game.
Speaker 1: Here's what take has to do. Okay, he has to
Speaker 1: do this, Thank you, Jess. That's what he has to do.
Speaker 1: No more lip service. We have no more room for
Speaker 1: lip service. If your feet ain't moving in the action service,
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear from you. I've heard all
Speaker 1: of the DeMarcus Lawrence quotes and soft again. If you're
Speaker 1: calling this unit soft, you're the captain of the soft squad.
Speaker 1: You're you're the leader of the soft boys. And I'm
Speaker 1: not attacking any person individually as a man. I'm saying,
Speaker 1: there's nothing you should be talking about. Okay, you you
Speaker 1: I think about great leaders. Michael Irvin wouldn't accepted that. You.
Speaker 1: If we are having a sloppy offense, we stay at
Speaker 1: the practice and we're getting it right. Or if I'm
Speaker 1: the leader of this defense, guess what we're doing after
Speaker 1: practice is over. Hey, guys, we're back in this film room,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna work together as a team or my
Speaker 1: leadership in this film room to figure this out. Like
Speaker 1: that's the thing I'm not talking about like team only
Speaker 1: player meetings. I'm talking about actual tangible stuff that leaders
Speaker 1: go and do. Sitting in front of the media giving
Speaker 1: us sound bites and quotes don't do anything. And the
Speaker 1: biggest thing for a guy like Tank, wait, wait where
Speaker 1: this is when words begin to become very just loose
Speaker 1: and have no weight and have no meaning because the
Speaker 1: famous saying is the eye and this guy don't lie.
Speaker 1: So it's very tough for a guy like Tank to
Speaker 1: stand up in front of anyone when they sit in
Speaker 1: that offensive defensive meetings. And that coach got that clicker
Speaker 1: and he see he circles taking he says, Tank, what
Speaker 1: the hell are you doing? How are you getting washed down?
Speaker 1: Or they show it, Everson Griffin, where are you going?
Speaker 1: Tristan Hill? Did he just throw you about the club?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Jalen, are you jogging on the backside?
Speaker 1: So now you can't how can you come to me
Speaker 1: and say anything? You can't come to me and say
Speaker 1: anything because I just watched the film you've just watched.
Speaker 1: And if you're supposed to be the leader, well hell,
Speaker 1: you know the line up app and you're supposed to
Speaker 1: have containment, Why are you going down inside? That ain't
Speaker 1: got nothing to do with effort, That ain't got nothing
Speaker 1: to do with nothing. That's just simply knowing what you're
Speaker 1: supposed to be doing. And if you're supposed to be
Speaker 1: going up the field in containment and you get washed down,
Speaker 1: you can't come talk to me. And now you have
Speaker 1: a bunch of guys who are supposed to be your
Speaker 1: leaders giving lip service and it ain't putting no action
Speaker 1: to work. So you know what that it falls on
Speaker 1: deaf ears. It goes in one ear and out the other,
Speaker 1: because you can't come talk to me when your house
Speaker 1: ain't right. You can't come tell me about mine when
Speaker 1: yours is filthy. You can't tell me to clean up
Speaker 1: my area when you live in like Oscar the Grouch.
Speaker 1: So until these games start, until these individuals or this team,
Speaker 1: these leaders, and until these guys begin to start having
Speaker 1: solid performances and actually can sit here and say, you
Speaker 1: know what, I graded out pretty damn well this game.
Speaker 1: Now you can come start talking to me. But you
Speaker 1: can't talk to me if if if you ain't got
Speaker 1: no sacks, you ain't got no tackles you got, mister Simmons,
Speaker 1: your great, it's about worse than mine because I'm gonna
Speaker 1: look at you as a man ago ebra, not today,
Speaker 1: not today. They already on my back. I only hit
Speaker 1: nothing from you because you're sorry too. So you can't
Speaker 1: come talk to me if you're sorry. So if your
Speaker 1: best players are or you're supposed best players aren't performing,
Speaker 1: your highest paid players aren't performing, can a can a
Speaker 1: lower tier guy who's busting his butt? You know? Can
Speaker 1: a say a Donovan Wilson who may not be the
Speaker 1: most talented, but if he's trying hard, can he speak up?
Speaker 1: I mean, who's gonna be the leader? Is making pay?
Speaker 1: Is he making plays? I'm just saying it's just an example.
Speaker 1: I mean, can a lower tier guys step up and
Speaker 1: be a leader if he's if he's making plays, yes, sir, yes, sir.
Speaker 1: I mean he's not gonna say a lot, but by
Speaker 1: his actions and the one or two words that he
Speaker 1: does say, you're gonna look at him and you're like, wow,
Speaker 1: this dude bawling, you know, but you can't say a lot.
Speaker 1: The locker room is a funny thing. The locker room
Speaker 1: is a funny thing. And I've learned. You know, I
Speaker 1: wasn't a top player by no means, but I wasn't
Speaker 1: a bottom player. He look and every night and then
Speaker 1: I would say something I knew my place. I would
Speaker 1: just say something directly that one of our stars and
Speaker 1: just say something get them going. You know. Uh, this
Speaker 1: thing is so funny, man. Uh it's they're one or
Speaker 1: two plays away defensively from uh everything no, no, no,
Speaker 1: everything changing. You need an interception here, a big sack there,
Speaker 1: and things change for you and your offense get a
Speaker 1: lead and now they just maintain that lead and things
Speaker 1: change for you. And you know that's you know, that's
Speaker 1: the patience. Yeah, we're very very critical today. It's money
Speaker 1: is Monday, and it's susy, and we're very critical. But
Speaker 1: just one or two plays if you are those guys
Speaker 1: that's seeking and trying to get those one but it
Speaker 1: can change for you. But they have a long ways
Speaker 1: to go because they keep any seals and by not
Speaker 1: lining up right, you know, and I understand at the
Speaker 1: beginning of the game, you may have had a lot
Speaker 1: of schemes, but after about eight plays, the coach probably
Speaker 1: simplified everything, like, Wow, these guys are gashing us. Let's
Speaker 1: be very simple. Let's get everybody lined up and let's
Speaker 1: get ready to go. We're gonna get We're gonna get
Speaker 1: ready to go to break because this is depressing the
Speaker 1: hell out of me talking about how bad this defense is.
Speaker 1: And some other people had some things to say about
Speaker 1: the defense too. Troy Aitman came out and said something
Speaker 1: this morning, Jesse, you sent us a tweet by Marcus
Speaker 1: Spears talking about the defense. Coach McCarthy and Mike Nolan
Speaker 1: both talked about the defense. We're gonna hear what they
Speaker 1: all had to say, and I want to get y'all
Speaker 1: thoughts on it as we continue to talk about the defense,
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Speaker 1: great football and not be spending so great all right,
Speaker 1: pronounced Terry to Coach McCarthy and Mike Nolan. Both said
Speaker 1: effort was not a problem. On Sunday, there's some guys
Speaker 1: in the media they watched the wrong tape over over
Speaker 1: the last couple of days. Troy Antman came out this
Speaker 1: morning and said that he would be embarrassed. You know
Speaker 1: Manniacho that used to be on Cover four. He's come
Speaker 1: out with some things. And then Jesse, you sent us
Speaker 1: a tweet that of last night that Marcus Spears former cowboy.
Speaker 1: What did he have to say? He called out the
Speaker 1: manhood of each one playing on the defense. He said, listen, fellas,
Speaker 1: he don't give a damn about scheme. He'll give a
Speaker 1: damn about all that kind of stuff. It comes time.
Speaker 1: It comes down to you being a man and putting
Speaker 1: out everything you got for yourself and your brothers to
Speaker 1: your leftist You're right, and it was no excuse he was.
Speaker 1: He was embarrassed as someone who's he said, to someone
Speaker 1: who's been in the defensive line meeting rooms, who's been
Speaker 1: in that culture, what they put out there was embarrassing,
Speaker 1: and they should be embarrassed, and they should and they
Speaker 1: should look around at one another to say this is crap.
Speaker 1: You know, you can throw for four and five or
Speaker 1: six hundred yards and all of that, and ain't nobody
Speaker 1: gonna say to them because you know his footwork, it's bumping,
Speaker 1: it's running, and his talent wise, well, when a dude
Speaker 1: line up on you, grab you and your chest and
Speaker 1: pick you up and walk with you and throw you
Speaker 1: on the ground, that's physical, bro. So what are the
Speaker 1: people would call? Obviously you said it right whenever I
Speaker 1: started when I read that, Jesse, you know they watched
Speaker 1: the wrong tape. Obviously, the coaches, all these former players
Speaker 1: are coming out and saying what they see, and they're
Speaker 1: all seeing the same thing, and then the coaches they've
Speaker 1: got to see the same thing. But are they protecting
Speaker 1: the players? Like what why would they come out in
Speaker 1: the media and say that, or is it like, hey,
Speaker 1: I got y'all's back, or what's going on behind closed doors? Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: For a coach, you know, and I get it. It's
Speaker 1: your job to protect your players and protect your locker room.
Speaker 1: And it's already bad enough that you have, you know,
Speaker 1: media people like myself and Nate and everybody else in
Speaker 1: the world who go out and we're going to be
Speaker 1: very critical of the team. So the coaches they don't
Speaker 1: they don't have to. They don't necessarily want to add
Speaker 1: fuel to the fire. They don't want they don't want
Speaker 1: to pour gasoline on an already you know, five alarm fire.
Speaker 1: So they try to say things to kind of keep,
Speaker 1: you know, keep their player protected. But there's a couple
Speaker 1: of phrases that I want to just read off that
Speaker 1: if you ever hear a coach say this is completely bs. So.
Speaker 1: If you ever hear coach say about a player, he
Speaker 1: played with a good energy, smart player, plays extremely hard.
Speaker 1: And the new one that I added this morning is
Speaker 1: plays with courage. If you hear coaches or gms or
Speaker 1: owners or any people use those phrases about a player
Speaker 1: who you know has stunk it up like a porter
Speaker 1: potty at the fair, those are phrases that you know,
Speaker 1: they straight telling that bull. That's straight up bull. He
Speaker 1: plays hard, plays the right way, plays extremely hard, smart player.
Speaker 1: He was courageous. That's just simple and nice ways of
Speaker 1: trying to defend my guys because they playing like Boo boo.
Speaker 1: That's all it is. So whenever you hit those terms,
Speaker 1: just roll your eyes and know, roll your eyes and
Speaker 1: cover your nose because Boo boo is coming. It's courageous.
Speaker 1: It's courageous. Walking out on seventy five is that's not smart,
Speaker 1: and that's what that's what Nick Chubdon brought down, Like
Speaker 1: running out down seventy five ran over. Yeah, courageous. Courageous
Speaker 1: is going for tours of duty in our rack. That's courageous.
Speaker 1: That that's what I call courageous. Courageous is a doctor
Speaker 1: in a hospital taking care of patients when they have
Speaker 1: corona or other elements that can affect the doctor and
Speaker 1: the people in the nurses that are working there, well,
Speaker 1: that's courageous. Courageous is a fireman going into a blazing,
Speaker 1: burning building to save people. That's courageous. Being paid tens
Speaker 1: of millions of dollars to go out there to do
Speaker 1: a child's game that you are not doing well is
Speaker 1: not courageous to me and those are terms that people
Speaker 1: use to to it's it's it's putting perfume on dud.
Speaker 1: It stinks. Go ahead on court. I'm sorry. Well, we
Speaker 1: talked in the last segment about the culture being so
Speaker 1: bad and changing the culture. I mean, does it help.
Speaker 1: I realize the coaches are going to protect their players,
Speaker 1: but does that help. I mean he's just sort of
Speaker 1: appeasing them and letting them to know it's okay whatever.
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe he should be a little tougher on him.
Speaker 1: If he's saying that public and also saying in the
Speaker 1: private that's what the problem is. Now. If he's saying
Speaker 1: that publicly but chewing him out and give ripping him
Speaker 1: a new one privately, then then maybe yes it'll work.
Speaker 1: But you if he's saying, oh, what we saw a
Speaker 1: film was great effort. If he's saying that publicly and
Speaker 1: also saying that privately, we have major, major issues and
Speaker 1: we need to run the opposite way fast, you know
Speaker 1: it does it? Does it create a little bit more
Speaker 1: I don't know, pressure or whatever. If it's public, though,
Speaker 1: I mean, you get a guy that you know call
Speaker 1: him out a little bit with that, with that help
Speaker 1: change things a little quicker. It just spends on the
Speaker 1: player knowing your player. It depends on it depends on
Speaker 1: I just asked this question here, you know, and I
Speaker 1: know it's simple, you know. But if I'm lining up
Speaker 1: in front of you and then back, I'm looking right
Speaker 1: at his eyes, student through you into the back ass
Speaker 1: and the full back to the tail back, and you
Speaker 1: come and straight at me, it's me and Jayden. I'm
Speaker 1: the down lineman. They moved me out the way. They
Speaker 1: run over Jayden in the back running. I mean, what, what,
Speaker 1: what are you gonna say? Oh, nay, this all right?
Speaker 1: Next time, try hard. I don't get what you're saying. Man,
Speaker 1: it don't matter. It's the it's on the players. It's
Speaker 1: totally this game. This was not a bunch of motion
Speaker 1: like it was with the Rams. This weren't a bunch
Speaker 1: of guys moving around. This was guys lining up in
Speaker 1: two tight ends, maybe shifting one time, getting said allowing
Speaker 1: for you to set, and they took off running at you.
Speaker 1: They were coming downhill. Now, you we've all been out
Speaker 1: with Sons and Pop Warner games where they just line
Speaker 1: up with a great running back and quarterback and they
Speaker 1: just running the run. Son, can't you see they ran
Speaker 1: the same play eight times. Fair Nat, because you're some
Speaker 1: of the run that was running down those kids. Train
Speaker 1: was the one that was running the other kids over
Speaker 1: the other side, Nate, When Nate you weren't blocking for
Speaker 1: the all time leading Russia on the National Football League,
Speaker 1: and then you have your son who's run down on
Speaker 1: these kids. You can't relate, Nate, you are. I can't
Speaker 1: relate because we had a bad coach before we had
Speaker 1: an our return, and we've been a lot of a
Speaker 1: come downhill on nobody. Jess, I've been one in fifteen.
Speaker 1: I'm serious. I've been one in fifteen. I've been three
Speaker 1: and thirteen. And the difference was the players. The difference
Speaker 1: was the players. When you have the players with the
Speaker 1: wheel in the drive to be the best they can
Speaker 1: be individually and collectively, you have a better team. That's
Speaker 1: that's the bottom line. That's the bottom line. Because Stone
Speaker 1: coach said, so, how many other teams around this league
Speaker 1: are they having this exact same conversation, maybe out this
Speaker 1: exact same conversation. How many? Yeah? I mean we're so
Speaker 1: entrenched in this and we see this, and we're so
Speaker 1: engulfed in this, we think this is the only team
Speaker 1: that this is happening to you. How many teams are
Speaker 1: their fans who terrible? The whole Independent East, the Eagles,
Speaker 1: but you know, teams like the Jets, they knew they
Speaker 1: were gonna be bad. We all thought the Cowboys were
Speaker 1: going to be a contender. But don't we don't we
Speaker 1: do that? No, don't do that, don't do that. Don't
Speaker 1: you didn't think? What what y'all have heard me say
Speaker 1: off air? Like I say every year, you're gonna get
Speaker 1: me to say the Cowboys sixteen and old by Friday.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you how the Cowboys can win if
Speaker 1: they do what I say do. But I asked you, guys,
Speaker 1: and I'm saying it again on air and offair, what
Speaker 1: is it that you saw on this team to make
Speaker 1: you think there was gonna be a playoff team? And
Speaker 1: I'm at see you again. They had a new coaching staff,
Speaker 1: and they had they obviously have an offense that can
Speaker 1: be a playoff team. Always we said that just had
Speaker 1: to be average. That always said was the defense had
Speaker 1: to be average. And they're they're okay, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: We didn't know that. I'm saying that you don't care
Speaker 1: would be a contender. Everybody thought the Cowboys are going
Speaker 1: to Nobody thought the Jets were gonna be a contender.
Speaker 1: So yes, they're having those conversations. But I think it's
Speaker 1: a little different for the Cowboys because they're not where
Speaker 1: anybody expected them to be. Well, y'all know, I'm telling
Speaker 1: you what I told you is the truth, So you
Speaker 1: can you can say everybody else, but you asked me,
Speaker 1: and I'm telling you I you have to show me.
Speaker 1: A year ago they got me. Well, nobody talking crazy.
Speaker 1: Look but me how I thought the defense is gonna
Speaker 1: be this and be that. How they how everybody was
Speaker 1: gonna be over the top. But this year here they
Speaker 1: had to show me. And I'm gonna say I said
Speaker 1: it all fair. I'm saying it don't where I've told
Speaker 1: you guys. What do you see before this season that
Speaker 1: made you think that there was gonna be something special?
Speaker 1: Well for me, I mean I thought, I'm gonna say
Speaker 1: for me, I thought, you know, adding CD Lamb, I
Speaker 1: thought Dak was gonna take the next step. You already
Speaker 1: had a pretty good receiving corps. I did think the
Speaker 1: addition of Everson Griffin and Don Terry Poe would bring
Speaker 1: up something on the difference. I did think those two
Speaker 1: free agent sciences were going to be huge for us
Speaker 1: in so many different ways, and it's turned out that
Speaker 1: it has been nothing but a waste of our time. Um,
Speaker 1: but I did think offensively that this team would be
Speaker 1: able to compete and go against anyone in the league.
Speaker 1: I did not think and I'm gonna say this to
Speaker 1: you as well, Nate, Yeah, I don't even think you
Speaker 1: thought this defense was going to be this bad. Oh no,
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody thought that. Like we knew offensively,
Speaker 1: you know what we might you add CD lamb. Oh
Speaker 1: my guy, he was a number set. He was still
Speaker 1: there at seventeen. We added this prolific receiver to our
Speaker 1: We're like, okay, offensively, we got something. Now we can
Speaker 1: just get a little something from our defense. We should
Speaker 1: be I no one, no one, no one thought that
Speaker 1: this defense would be this bad. Right now, then, Terrio
Speaker 1: Pole and Everson Griffin. You heard me say, I see what,
Speaker 1: Everson Griffins, this is something tangible. I just not have
Speaker 1: high hopes on all these I said, we get what
Speaker 1: we get. The other kid, great, we get, But I
Speaker 1: say this is tangible with Pole stopping the run. What
Speaker 1: Everson Griffins was a great run defender, anna pattern. We
Speaker 1: should have something special here, but as I saw the
Speaker 1: first game, the Rams should have told us a lot,
Speaker 1: but we choose to ignore that and say, okay, well, okay,
Speaker 1: no preseason, no this, no that, Okay, next, okay, we
Speaker 1: barely won the Atlanta game. Okay, then Seattle, well, no
Speaker 1: preseason Okay. Now it's the fourth game. Okay, when do
Speaker 1: you saw realizing that these coaches got a hell of
Speaker 1: a battle on their hands trying to change the culture
Speaker 1: of this locker room. That's true. And if you're gonna
Speaker 1: come out every week after loss and try to find
Speaker 1: an excuse not to get better and pamper and baby
Speaker 1: and not to say nothing, okay, that you get what
Speaker 1: you deserve. But if you can't see, that's why I
Speaker 1: say I watched the games, not just only our game,
Speaker 1: but teams that are good and say, okay, what is
Speaker 1: the difference here? And it keeps coming back to players. Players.
Speaker 1: Coach Backnoli for the Diva's a coordinator for Kansas City Chiefs.
Speaker 1: They're like, oh, great job, but they also tell you
Speaker 1: got tyrone matthis on the back end got Anthony Hitchens
Speaker 1: in the middle, and they got Chris Jones up front.
Speaker 1: Now give us out three, Kurt. Oh yeah, talent, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we don't. We don't have the talent to be a
Speaker 1: playoff or defenses or near a playoff team. But you know,
Speaker 1: I'm saying a few pieces. Yeah, I thought we have
Speaker 1: a few pieces that will help improve us to give
Speaker 1: our offense a chance. Okay, if our offense have one turnover,
Speaker 1: we have a fifty cent chance of losing the game.
Speaker 1: If our office has suit turnovers, we lose the game. Okay,
Speaker 1: Where does the defense play in our special teams? I
Speaker 1: talk greatly about our special team coach, and I'm still
Speaker 1: trying to love on our special teams coach, But what
Speaker 1: have we done special teams while I help this offense?
Speaker 1: Everything is geared to watch helping the offense. Where has
Speaker 1: the offense even the offenses crushing these sales with turnovers? Yeah?
Speaker 1: All right, fellows, we gotta take our last break before
Speaker 1: we run out of time. Hold that thought, Kurt. When
Speaker 1: we come back, Kurt never wants to talk and tell
Speaker 1: us time to go to break. You gotta get out
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Speaker 1: have them in stock. All right, Kurt, what were you
Speaker 1: saying before I cut you off? I'm sorry, buddy, Oh nothing.
Speaker 1: I just think that Ny and I were kind of
Speaker 1: saying the same thing. We both thought, you know, before
Speaker 1: the scene is started. We thought they had the pieces
Speaker 1: to make a run. But as as we've seen, let
Speaker 1: me run, my run is different to yours. My run
Speaker 1: was they make a run to the playoffs. Let me
Speaker 1: ask you, yes, sir, go ahead, go ahead, Nate, No,
Speaker 1: my run was to the playoffs. See, we haven't been
Speaker 1: to the playoffs. And in the playoffs, I mean in
Speaker 1: the playoffs, talk about the second round. I'm talking about
Speaker 1: NFC Championship. We haven't been there in so many years.
Speaker 1: How about let's make a couple of runs to the
Speaker 1: playoffs consistently and then that gives yourself a chance to
Speaker 1: build something. But to hit and miss every year that
Speaker 1: you're not going anywhere, you're not And I thought that
Speaker 1: Ontario Poe. I honestly thought that our run wolds would
Speaker 1: be over and that would give the other guys a
Speaker 1: chance to rush the passer. But that is that's none
Speaker 1: existing at this point. Why does there seem to be
Speaker 1: a common theme with this team that every year it
Speaker 1: seems we over evaluate the talent or we we hear
Speaker 1: that they got the talent. They got the talent. Now
Speaker 1: you don't used to it was all its coach. It's fault,
Speaker 1: It's the offensive coordinator's fault, it's this person's fault. Now
Speaker 1: you got a new coaching staff in here. This year,
Speaker 1: of all years, you've got the talent. Everybody was expecting
Speaker 1: this team to explode offensively, which they've done because they've
Speaker 1: had twas, they've been playing from two touchdowns, you know,
Speaker 1: down almost every game. But why does it seem there's
Speaker 1: a common theme that that we have the talent, or
Speaker 1: at least we're told we have the talent, and then
Speaker 1: we over evaluate and at the end of the year
Speaker 1: we're looking back and we're eight and eight again. Is
Speaker 1: that is that every team in the league? Is that
Speaker 1: just having your hopes up? Or is that something that's
Speaker 1: singular to this team? Now, I ain't trying to be funny,
Speaker 1: but let me say this right Quilt, after the Hitches
Speaker 1: Wilson to some degree, Tacol, these were guys that were
Speaker 1: here here and players on it team. They're no longer here,
Speaker 1: ain't So everybody has players that they cut and release
Speaker 1: and all of that. But after the Hitchens and Wilson
Speaker 1: were guys that we could have resigned, we chose not to.
Speaker 1: They don't sell jerseys, Nate. Their name is not popular.
Speaker 1: People don't know them. You can't put them on a
Speaker 1: ticket stamp, you can't put them up in the pro shop, Nate.
Speaker 1: That's the biggest the problem. We we sometimes go to
Speaker 1: this thing where we were I think they need to
Speaker 1: fight harder for those players. Yes, I'm not buying that.
Speaker 1: I think the defensive players, the defensive coach. You need
Speaker 1: to stand on the table for some of these players.
Speaker 1: They're trying to keep their jobs. You can only you
Speaker 1: can only stand on if the table is about to
Speaker 1: break on you. You can only stand on that table
Speaker 1: for so much for players. Hell, you're trying to keep
Speaker 1: your jobs. So if you're gonna stand up and be
Speaker 1: vocal for somebody else, I'm gonna look down at you
Speaker 1: and say, uh, have you checked the defensive stats? Sir?
Speaker 1: You might want to be quiet that end of the
Speaker 1: table talking about we should keep somebody mind. Well, you
Speaker 1: want to just put me on the street. I believe leave. Yes,
Speaker 1: I believe last year that Jason Garrett should have called
Speaker 1: his own plays. You stand on the table for what
Speaker 1: you truly believe. And I stand on the table still.
Speaker 1: And maybe he's doing it. Maybe Mike McCarty's call him,
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy should be calling plays. He's our new head
Speaker 1: coach with a special gift. And I'm gonna stand by that,
Speaker 1: my friend. I'm gonna stand by that. You got to
Speaker 1: give this guy every opportunity, you let him hire his
Speaker 1: own coaches set one guy, but that is the guy
Speaker 1: that controls your offense now. And then they said, well
Speaker 1: they plays. There ain't nothing wrong with the plays. The
Speaker 1: players gotta do some players got to do that. But
Speaker 1: I want to see the head coach who's an offensive
Speaker 1: coordinator call the plays. I believe that wrong, right, they're indifference.
Speaker 1: Can I say one thing that that Mike, it's not
Speaker 1: it's to this subject, but it's not to this subject
Speaker 1: that I kind of just wanted, like a psad of Jesse.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this honest question. Have you ever
Speaker 1: wanted to say something on this show that you didn't say?
Speaker 1: Thank you? They don't even ask me that question. I
Speaker 1: want to say this. I want to say as a
Speaker 1: as a PSA to some of our fans, because we
Speaker 1: get into this notion of hey signed this guy, sign
Speaker 1: that guy, signed this guy, and I just want to
Speaker 1: tell people that some of the people that you want
Speaker 1: us to sign, or just free agent in general, understand
Speaker 1: that they watch the same game that you watch, and
Speaker 1: they see that this team is not a very good
Speaker 1: football team. And despite some of them wanting to be
Speaker 1: lifelong Cowboy fans and might want to be a part
Speaker 1: of this organization. There are a lot of free agents
Speaker 1: who are not hurting for cash, not chasing the dollability anymore,
Speaker 1: are up there in age and they're looking to be
Speaker 1: with the contender. They're looking around. They're saying, I'm not
Speaker 1: signed right now, But do I want to go to
Speaker 1: a one and three team who is in complete disarray,
Speaker 1: or do I want to try and go get with
Speaker 1: the team that's four and oh three and one two
Speaker 1: and two but has some promises, some upside to actually
Speaker 1: go deep into the playoffs. Not everybody wants to come
Speaker 1: and be a Cowboy. And before you start telling me,
Speaker 1: well he said that this was his first choice, go
Speaker 1: read the article. Go read the entire article. And the
Speaker 1: only reason certain players said this was their first choice
Speaker 1: because he just had a baby and just wants to
Speaker 1: be close to home. Not necessarily he wants to come
Speaker 1: and play for the Cowboys. So there are certain things
Speaker 1: I want people to understand when they're talking about go
Speaker 1: sign this guy's go sign this guy. They watch the
Speaker 1: same thing we watch. And as guys who are thirty
Speaker 1: plus years old, who are veterans, former Pro bowlers, who
Speaker 1: got a bank or boatload of money, I ain't trying
Speaker 1: to go bang my head to be out of here
Speaker 1: in December. If I'm gonna go bang my head and
Speaker 1: spend time away from my family, damn, And I want
Speaker 1: to spend some time in the playoffs, deep into the
Speaker 1: playoffs in January and hopefully end up somewhere in February.
Speaker 1: So just just be cautious of that. When you guys
Speaker 1: go out and say we should sign so, maybe so
Speaker 1: and so or every song and SO doesn't want to
Speaker 1: be a Dallas Cowboy, especially when you're not playing up
Speaker 1: to the standards which most veterans want to be a
Speaker 1: part of. Most guys don't want to be a part
Speaker 1: of a bad team. They want to go to a
Speaker 1: playoff contending team. All right, fellas, tomorrow's Wednesday. We're turning
Speaker 1: the page. We've had two days to bet, We've had
Speaker 1: two days just to correct this team, and we're gonna
Speaker 1: move on tomorrow. We're gonna we're moving on. Hey, the
Speaker 1: tom thumb Albertson's pharmacy will arrive to stay day to
Speaker 1: fix all your We had a fact see for the
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys. Jess, Yeah, listen, get them here on a
Speaker 1: safe plane, have them ushered in by police escort, don't
Speaker 1: let me Hey, make sure the hotel is cleane, positive
Speaker 1: tests or nothing. We need nothing. Get them here as
Speaker 1: soon as possible, safe and sound. If you know a
Speaker 1: Giants fan, hug him and tell him thanks for coming
Speaker 1: to town this weekend. Hopefully it fixed. Thank you, give
Speaker 1: him your gim. That was tomorrow Cowboys Offense, Giants Defense,
Speaker 1: and then Thursday. Thursday is gonna be the fun day.
Speaker 1: We get to talk about Jason Garrett all show long.
Speaker 1: You thought he was gone off this program. He's not.
Speaker 1: He'll be back offense and their defense right, our offense,
Speaker 1: their defense tomorrow. Yes, sir, okay, yes, sir. Nate looking
Speaker 1: good in that purple. Thanks for being here, Kurt, thanks
Speaker 1: for interact all my commercial breaks. Jesse Peak, looks good
Speaker 1: on you, Chris Bean. Thanks for having minimal technical difficulties today.
Speaker 1: We got it back old track. Brother. We will see
Speaker 1: y'all tomorrow, same time, same place, hanging with the boys peace.
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