1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,280 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in Tuesday edition Clay Travis and 3 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show could be a little bit of a 4 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 1: while Tuesday. We got a lot of different stories that 5 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 1: are breaking. We are officially one week from an election 6 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 1: in the Commonwealth of Virginia that could rock the entire 7 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 1: world of the political establishment. Glenn junkin the Republican most 8 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:36,880 Speaker 1: recent poll straight up dead heat, tied with Terry mccaulluff, 9 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: the former governor of Virginia, attempting to regain election. This 10 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: is in a blue in quotation mark state that Joe 11 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:52,200 Speaker 1: Biden won by ten points. At a minimum, Democrats are 12 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 1: going to be hemorrhaging voters, losing a lot of suburban 13 00:00:56,520 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: support in northern Virginia and in suburban Richmond. Glenn Yuncan 14 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:06,320 Speaker 1: with a chance to pull off an incredible upset in 15 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 1: Virginia and potentially set the table for a red tide 16 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two. Democrats are terrified of what might 17 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 1: be happening in this state, and we got major fuel 18 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: to the fire added yesterday a lot of discussion in 19 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:36,040 Speaker 1: Loudon County, where really the revolution for many of you 20 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: out there, school board revolution, the Lulu Lamon Revolution, the 21 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: angry moms, the suburban parents are fed up with critical 22 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: race theory. They're fed up with being talked down to 23 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 1: by politicians like Terry mccalliff, who says you don't have 24 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: any right to determine what your kids are being taught. Well, 25 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: the domestic terrorist argument that came out of the DOJ 26 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: Merrick Garland investigation into tool meetings incidents that they cited 27 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: was actually connected to a parent showing up at a 28 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: school board to talk about his daughter being sexually assaulted 29 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: in a school and no one taking it serious. This 30 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: is a big deal. Monday, Juvenile Court judge in Loudon 31 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 1: County Pamela Brooks, she agreed with the charges that a 32 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 1: boy in a skirt went into the bathroom there and 33 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 1: committed forcible sodomy and forcible fallatio. This is the juvenile 34 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 1: court equivalent of a conviction. In other words, this assault happened. 35 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: What this dad was demanding was in fact addressed. Boy 36 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 1: has not been named because he's a minor. He's going 37 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: to return to court on November fifteenth for sentencing. He's 38 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 1: also been charged with sexually assaulting another girl at a 39 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 1: different school in the same Virginia school district in October. 40 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 1: And all of this, this father is threatening to sue 41 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: the NSBA, the National school Board Association, for calling him 42 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 1: a domestic terrorist. He said in a statement after the verdict. 43 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 1: We're greatly relieved justice was served today. No one should 44 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 1: have to endure what this family has endured, and now 45 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:31,959 Speaker 1: their focus is completely upon their daughter's health and safety 46 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: as she progresses forward with her life. All Right, I 47 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:39,119 Speaker 1: wanted to lay out all of those details because they 48 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: are potentially, as you well know, Buck, the crucible moment 49 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: of this election may well come down to this school 50 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: board and the revolution in Loudon County over kids and 51 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 1: what they're learning in schools. Couldn't come All of this 52 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 1: at a worse time for Terry mcculloffe. As we know, 53 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: we're just days away from what will be at the 54 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: biggest governor's race, certainly in sometimes and will be one 55 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: of the biggest political decision days we've seen since the 56 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: twenty twenty election, and the Democrats are aware of this too. 57 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 1: You can already see some of the national news outlets 58 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: that are trying to frame this as oh well, it's 59 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: just Virginia, or they're saying that this is really about Trump. 60 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 1: You know, it depends are they are they trying to 61 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: hedge their bets or are they trying to have one 62 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 1: last push. Depending on the article, it can be one 63 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 1: or the other. Clearly mccauliffe is trying to do everything 64 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:38,280 Speaker 1: that he can to make this a referendum on Trump still, 65 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: which just goes to show you what a pathetic state 66 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 1: the Democrat Party nationally is in right now. He's also 67 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 1: blaming the National Democrat Party. Some of his donors were 68 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: quoted at a New York Times piece yesterday, one of 69 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: his donors in particular about how well basically Biden's put 70 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: mcculloff in a bad spot when it's year one of 71 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 1: a presidency and governors in states that went solidly blue 72 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: in the election a year ago, or saying, well, I 73 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 1: mean this White House is basically dragging me down. You 74 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: know that the National Party is aware of the fact 75 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 1: that there's a lot of buyer's remorse from independence. A 76 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: lot of people have turned around and said, wow, this 77 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: Biden administration does not have what it takes together. This 78 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 1: is done. But but all the you know, there's like 79 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: the layers here, right, there's the national level party bringing 80 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 1: on down to the state race. McAuliffe has really stumbled 81 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: here because of the school board as you as you've 82 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 1: been saying, the school board parental rebellion against critical race 83 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: theory teaching the trans agenda too. That was a big 84 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 1: part of this. Remember the school board meeting where that 85 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: concerned father who had a daughter who was sexually assaulted. 86 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:46,919 Speaker 1: This is now on court record. This is now established 87 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: that concerned parents showed up there to talk about the 88 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: transgender bathroom policy in the school and the school board 89 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: pretended not to know that this had happened. Why because 90 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: parents might feel a little bit differently about letting let's 91 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 1: be very clear about this teenage boys in the girl's bathroom, 92 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 1: because the teenage boy says that he is in fact 93 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: a girl. If there had been an assault, which there 94 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: was a lot of other parents might have felt differently 95 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:14,479 Speaker 1: about this. So you have the hiding of it. You 96 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 1: have the Soros backed prosecutor who was showing up at 97 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 1: the hearing for that dad who was arrested for being 98 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 1: rowdy at the school after his daughter had been sexually assaulted. 99 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 1: That prosecutor who ran on empty out the prisons. Basically, 100 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 1: we need to end the incarceration state. Whatever. Backed by 101 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: Soros and also connected directly to mccauliff clay All, this 102 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 1: looks awful for a Democrat party that's used to having 103 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: essentially uncontested control over the public school system in most 104 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: states across the country, and certainly in the education bureaucracy 105 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:54,359 Speaker 1: at the federal level. So we just kind of setting 106 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: the table for everybody out there. Because we keep talking 107 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: about this election. There's not a lot of elections that 108 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: are taking place in twenty twenty one, So using this 109 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: in some way as a prelude for what might happen 110 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two is going to be the narrative 111 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: that emerges one week from today when Virginians go out 112 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: to the polls and make their choice on governor. The 113 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: two most recent polls, and I'm looking at Real Clear Politics, 114 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: which does a great job of collating all of these 115 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 1: different polls, and Emerson poll that came out yesterday had 116 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: this a deadheat race forty nine to forty nine. The 117 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 1: USA Today Suffolk poll which came out today had Terry 118 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 1: mccauliffe up forty six to forty five. So I want 119 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: to kind of contextualize this because regardless of how this 120 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: race goes, and obviously we want Glenn Junkin to win, 121 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 1: and we encourage any of you in the Virginia area 122 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 1: to make sure that you go out and support him 123 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 1: because this is an important message being sent even by 124 00:07:56,560 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: having this as a tight race. But remember I didn't 125 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: won this state by ten points. If Terry mccauliffe wins 126 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: by a point or two, then that's a seven or 127 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 1: eight point swing that we are talking about In a 128 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: state like Virginia. That's seven or eight point swing magnified 129 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: in other states would represent buck a landslide. But I 130 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: want to in the same way that we talked about 131 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 1: California and the potential recall, all of the heavyweights are 132 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: coming out, including Barack Obama. I want to play this 133 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 1: cut for you from yesterday that we played because it's 134 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:37,319 Speaker 1: so incredibly tone deaf, particularly in light of this Loudon 135 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:42,679 Speaker 1: County kid being found guilty of forcible Sodaby and forcible Fallacio. 136 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 1: It's a major story in Virginia and Obama was intimating 137 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: that this was a culture war and it didn't matter. 138 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: It sounds even more tone deaf today than it did 139 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: yesterday and we played it. Listen. We don't have time 140 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 1: to be wasting on these phony, trumped up culture wars, 141 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: this fake outrage, the right wing media's pedals to juice 142 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: their ratings, and the fact that he's willing to go 143 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: along with it instead of talking about serious problems that 144 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: actually affect serious people. That's a shame. That's not what 145 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: this election is about. That's not what you need, Virginia. 146 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 1: Instead of forcing our communities to cut back at a 147 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: time when we're just starting to recover, we should be 148 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 1: doing more to support people who are educating our kids 149 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 1: and keeping our neighborhoods safe. Barack Obama has always been 150 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: the most shameless of demagogues, so this is not surprising 151 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 1: that he would come out and say things that are 152 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: so disconnected from reality. But when he says things like 153 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 1: this at a moment where a lot of parents, we 154 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 1: keep focusing on loudon because it's it's a hotspot. There's 155 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 1: a front line in a sense here of the parent 156 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 1: rebellion against CRT and the transigend and all the rest 157 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: of it. But it's happened plays you know, in Tennessee, 158 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 1: It's happened in other states, all across the country about 159 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 1: mass mandates, about a variety of things. But for Barack 160 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 1: Obama to act like this is a first of all, 161 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 1: that our side is the one that is pushing a 162 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 1: culture war. Really, they're the ones that are saying, we 163 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 1: need teenage boys to be allowed in the women's or 164 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 1: the lady the girl's bathroom in the schools, and if 165 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: you have a problem with that, you're a bigot. They're 166 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 1: the ones that want us to refer to the now 167 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 1: four star Admiral of the Health Service, doctor Levine as 168 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: a female or else you're a bigot, you'd be you're 169 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: a band from Twitter. You probably should be fired from 170 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 1: your job. And we're the ones pushing the trumped up 171 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 1: culture pardon the expression culture war. And when you add 172 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 1: onto it what you've laid out, which is that this 173 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 1: sexual assault that happened in this school, that the school 174 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: tried to cover up, and that they essentially wanted to 175 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: make a goal away because of what it meant against 176 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: the narrative, Barack Obama steps in and now says the 177 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:58,679 Speaker 1: culture war is phony. I think this was a misstep 178 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 1: by him as well, no doubt, it's a colossal misstep 179 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: and by the way Republicans aren't even really involved in 180 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: the biggest culture war that is going on right now. 181 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: We're going to talk about it later because there's more 182 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:16,680 Speaker 1: commentary coming out Dave Chappelle's comedy special. It's a internal 183 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:20,719 Speaker 1: democratic civil war over whether you can make fun of 184 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: transgender people at all, or whether that's unacceptable and lead 185 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 1: and should lead to your cancelation that Republicans are kind 186 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: of on the side saying, hey, you know, we kind 187 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 1: of like jokes. We kind of like the idea that 188 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:38,599 Speaker 1: comedians should be able to endorse humor even if it 189 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: sometimes makes people uncomfortable. That's not a trumped up, fake 190 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: right wing outrage meter. That is an internal democratic civil 191 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: war that is going on right there. Buck. 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Buck 226 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 1: Sexton Show. We are rocking through all the stories of 227 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 1: to day. Thanks for being here with us. We have 228 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 1: a lot to discuss with you, that's for sure. One 229 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 1: thing is this Virginia race that we've been talking about, 230 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 1: this Virginia discussion that is underway right now between Glen 231 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: Yunkin and Terry mcculloff. Clay has some betting odds on 232 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 1: that one. But we also have a little flashback to 233 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 1: share with all of you if you recall the moment 234 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 1: I think that was the roughest for mccauliffe in the 235 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 1: debate he ad with Junkin recently, was when he kind 236 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 1: of just said, well, you know, I don't I don't 237 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 1: like parents should be telling teacher, you know, telling schools 238 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 1: what to teach. It's like, well, I was pretty sure 239 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 1: that school board meetings exist though parents can actually raise 240 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 1: their concerns about this issue. But mccauliffe has been a 241 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 1: tool of the left in education. Look, he's a he's 242 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 1: a connected and mainstream, so to speak, DNC hack, and 243 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: he's been saying the things he needs to say to 244 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 1: make the Democrat left and the teachers unions happy for 245 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: a long time, including back in twenty nineteen he basically 246 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: said that, you know, for elementary schools, the promotion of 247 00:14:56,760 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 1: diversity and inclusion is as important as math and English 248 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 1: play too. We've got to do a better job in 249 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 1: our education system. We've got to go back K to 250 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 1: six early on. We've got to start teaching talking about 251 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: these issues much earlier than we've done it before. And 252 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 1: we don't do a good job in our education system 253 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 1: talking about diversity, inclusion, openness and so forth. We don't. 254 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 1: We've got our textbooks, but you know, there has to 255 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 1: be a big part of how do you fit in 256 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 1: into the social work of our nation in our fabric. 257 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 1: How is it that we deal with one another? Is 258 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 1: to me is as important as you know, your math class, 259 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 1: your English class and so forth, And we don't. Now, 260 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: I don't think CRT or diversity inclusion is as important 261 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 1: as math and English for elementary school kids. Clay, I 262 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: disagree with mccallough, and I think the voters of Virginia 263 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 1: do too. I think a vast majority of voters in 264 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: Virginia disagree with him on that. I had Dub in 265 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 1: our studio, who also likes to gamble again, look up 266 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 1: the numbers offshore, and I thought they were kind of fascinating. 267 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: You can gamble overseas on American elections. You can't do 268 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 1: this really legally in the United States in the same way, 269 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: at least not yet. The over under right now, right now, 270 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 1: Terry mccauliff is still favored. He's minus two seventy five 271 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: in the betting markets. Glenn Junkin is plus two twenty. 272 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 1: All right, this is one week out, but the over 273 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: under on the electoral margin outcome is one point five percent. 274 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 1: So what the betting markets are telling us is that 275 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 1: Biden they think has lost at least eight point five percent. 276 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 1: I shouldn't say Biden Democrats have lost at least eight 277 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 1: point five percent of the ten point margin that they 278 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 1: had in this election. And the money is coming in 279 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: on Glenn Junkin to pull off the upset. This is 280 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: massively significant nationwide buck because if we were talking about 281 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 1: a margin like this translating to other states, you're talking 282 00:16:56,760 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 1: about a ton of the states, some of which an 283 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: even one comfortably flipping over into the Republican camp as 284 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:08,880 Speaker 1: soon as the mid term elections in twenty twenty two. 285 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: Even if young Kin doesn't win this election, Democrats are 286 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 1: running scared. 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I'm taking my eleven year old, 331 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 1: he's a big Atlanta Braves fan. I know we have 332 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:31,159 Speaker 1: a lot of listeners in Atlanta. I know we have 333 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 1: a lot of listeners in Houston. Should be a good time. 334 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:35,880 Speaker 1: Looking forward to meeting a bunch of you tomorrow. I'm 335 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 1: going to be doing the show live from our Houston affiliate. 336 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 1: So lots of awesome things going on there. In the 337 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 1: state of Florida, also a lot of awesome things going on. 338 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:49,120 Speaker 1: COVID cases have hit the woe for the entirety of 339 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 1: the nation. Lowest rate of COVID infection in Florida. A 340 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 1: lot of you don't know that because the mainstream media 341 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 1: won't cover it. The increase in cases. Big story. The 342 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 1: reality the case is plummet, not anywhere near that same level, 343 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 1: and vaccine mandates are coming under siege because Florida has 344 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:11,439 Speaker 1: managed to have the lowest COVID rate in the entire 345 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:16,919 Speaker 1: country without vaccine mandates and without any mask mandates. Florida's 346 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:20,160 Speaker 1: own surgeon general, he happens to be a Harvard med 347 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: graduate doctor, Joseph Lattipo, he spoke and said vaccine mandates 348 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 1: don't create safe workplaces. That, in fact, he says, is 349 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 1: a lie. This is what he had to say on 350 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 1: the issue. Listen, I've heard some leaders say things like, 351 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:40,880 Speaker 1: you know, we will create safe workplaces by mandating these vaccines. 352 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 1: Well they're really decoupled because the infections can still happen 353 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:50,120 Speaker 1: whether people were vaccinated or not. I mean, that's very obvious, 354 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 1: you know. And you remember these people were also telling 355 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 1: you that all these breakthrough infections were rare. Well they're 356 00:20:56,760 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 1: obviously not rare. In fact, they're common. And so that's 357 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 1: the truth. So this idea that the vaccine mandates are 358 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:07,120 Speaker 1: needed to create safe workplaces is to complete lie. It's 359 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 1: continued to be repeated, and you should know that it's 360 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: not at all backed up by science. In fact, the 361 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 1: science says something that's completely the opposite. Clay. This is 362 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:25,199 Speaker 1: remarkable because against the primary narrative that they used to 363 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 1: get so much of the policy in place for the 364 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 1: last couple of months, which was essentially, even if it's 365 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: possible for you to get infected, it's so rare that 366 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 1: we should essentially treat those who are vaccinated as though 367 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 1: they're good to go in terms of spreading the virus. 368 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 1: Forget about hospitalization and death and all that data for 369 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:48,119 Speaker 1: right now in terms of their ability to spread the virus. 370 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 1: But what was really going on while the virus was 371 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,920 Speaker 1: ripping through this country over the summertime, and it was 372 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 1: clear from the data that there was actually a serious 373 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 1: drive off in the protection of the vaccines. They kept saying, Oh, 374 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 1: but you know there's what was it? I think was 375 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 1: one in five thousand Joe Biden said, was that you 376 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 1: remember that that was in his sage back in August 377 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:14,160 Speaker 1: one in five thousand, chance of a breakthrough case, And 378 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 1: he was really playing with the statistics in a way 379 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 1: to make it seem like it was much less likely 380 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 1: it is. I know personally, multiple people that were fully 381 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 1: vaccinated it had breakthrough cases didn't get super sick. But 382 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 1: the point is the vaccine obviously didn't stop them from 383 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 1: getting sick and wouldn't stop them once they're sick from 384 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 1: spreading it to other people. So we've been once again 385 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 1: forced to go along with policies based upon data that 386 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:44,120 Speaker 1: turned out to not be or i should say, conclusions 387 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 1: that when you look at the data turned out to 388 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,719 Speaker 1: not be accurate. I mean, it's one thing that they 389 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 1: want to say, we're going to push this because we're 390 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 1: looking at risk parameters and all the rest. But they said, no, 391 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 1: you're not going to get it or spread it. That 392 00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 1: turned out to not be true. And it's even less 393 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 1: true than they say. And that's where I think this 394 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 1: is so important, because the protection from the vaccine goes down. 395 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 1: We all know this. Then this is why they're pushing 396 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 1: the boosters. So they kept saying, oh, no, you're so protected, 397 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 1: you're so protected. Not so much anymore if you got 398 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 1: it six months ago, no doubt, And how much different 399 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:20,119 Speaker 1: would our national discourse be. By the way, credit again 400 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:23,159 Speaker 1: to the state of Florida for putting a surgeon General 401 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 1: of the state out there who is being honest and 402 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:30,119 Speaker 1: discussing this case with a larger degree of nuance, that is, 403 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 1: the COVID infections vaccine mandates all of that than most 404 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 1: of the public officials that we hear from on a 405 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 1: regular basis, whether Toronto McDaniel at the CDC, whether it's 406 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 1: doctor Fauci at NIH. Listen to again, this is Florida's 407 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 1: own Surgeon General, doctor Joseph Latipoh. Listen to him talk about. 408 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 1: One of the reasons people are uncomfortable with vaccines is 409 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 1: the climate of dishonesty under which the Biden administration has 410 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 1: been trying to sell them. Part of the reason that 411 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 1: people are not comfortable. Some people are not comfortable with 412 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:05,920 Speaker 1: these vaccines is because the climate of dishonesty, scientific dishonesty 413 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 1: about the science right, whether it's natural immunity denial of 414 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 1: that in this face of data or in the case 415 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 1: of the vaccines, open honest discussions about both effectiveness and safety. 416 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 1: There's been dishonesty around that. The reality of how safe 417 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 1: these vaccines are is absolutely not public healthy people who've 418 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 1: had adverse reactions after the vaccines. There has been a 419 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:36,959 Speaker 1: concerted effort to prevent these types of stories, these experiences 420 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:44,120 Speaker 1: from receiving the attention that they obviously should receive. It's 421 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:49,399 Speaker 1: so utterly true. Yeah, I mean, Clay, it's utterly true 422 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:53,719 Speaker 1: that you can have doctors come forward and even remember 423 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 1: it's not even saying that necessarily fouching the rest are wrong. 424 00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:00,199 Speaker 1: We can go back to the Great Barrington Declaration. You 425 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,120 Speaker 1: have thousands of doctors and scientists who were saying, yes, 426 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,119 Speaker 1: covid is it is very dangerous to people, especially in 427 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 1: certain categories, you know, age and comorbidities. We're taking this 428 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 1: virus very seriously, but we don't. We simply don't have 429 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 1: the tools, and society cannot and should not bear the 430 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 1: burden of pretending like we can stop this or control this, 431 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: so we have a different risk tolerance. That was what 432 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:23,679 Speaker 1: they were trying to say. We have to allow for 433 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,400 Speaker 1: the fact that society must move forward the same way 434 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,120 Speaker 1: we have for our entire lives with flu and other 435 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:32,239 Speaker 1: respiratory viruses. This was worse than flu. All, we're all 436 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:36,119 Speaker 1: understanding and admitting that based on the numbers, but that 437 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 1: doesn't mean that you should have an entirely different approach 438 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,119 Speaker 1: to it, a largely different approach to it. And I 439 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 1: think what we're seeing plays. People have led themselves now 440 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 1: to believe that only with enough boosters will get to 441 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 1: this end state of no more COVID. And they keep 442 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 1: comparing vaccination. They do this all the time now, to 443 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 1: the MMR vaccine, the COVID vaccine, to those different shots 444 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 1: that people get. And as I think, I think it's 445 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 1: really important people to know because I've been saying here, 446 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 1: we've been saying that measles is one of a thousand 447 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:10,880 Speaker 1: mortality for children, which is far higher than COVID. Beyond that, 448 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:15,159 Speaker 1: measles does not mutate in a way that allows it 449 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 1: to evade immunity. They've done studies on this. There's research 450 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 1: on this. So when you get the shot, when you 451 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: have measles immunity, you're good. You don't get measles. You 452 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:28,640 Speaker 1: could have COVID nineteen immunity and get COVID twenty twenty 453 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,159 Speaker 1: two or whatever they're going to call it, right, And 454 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 1: this is why the policy of trying to play ketchup 455 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 1: all the time and make people get the shot, and 456 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,120 Speaker 1: make people get the shot is really what we're really 457 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 1: dealing with now is a paradigm that's much more similar 458 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 1: to seasonal influenza, where there'll be a shot. It gives 459 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 1: you some immunity. It's somewhat helpful. But should we force 460 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,679 Speaker 1: everybody forever to live their lives this way? I mean, 461 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 1: I'm walking around the Vegas casino floors. I don't really gamble, 462 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 1: it's not my thing, but I have to walk through 463 00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 1: themmunity again anywhere, And I'm getting shouted at the play 464 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 1: masko every day because I refuse you well, and what's 465 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,439 Speaker 1: crazy about this? Buck? And I wrote about this this 466 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 1: morning on my anonymous mailbag on OutKick because I got 467 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 1: asked by a family guy out there got a kindergardener. 468 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 1: How big is the battle going to be over mandatory vaccines? 469 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna make the mask battle look like 470 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 1: just a you know, a total like water gun fight 471 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,640 Speaker 1: like we're headed for. I think a vaccine civil war 472 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:31,360 Speaker 1: over COVID. And to your point on the larger context here, 473 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 1: seasonal flu kills more kids than COVID does. We've never 474 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,919 Speaker 1: mandated the flu shot ever to go to school. This 475 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 1: is about analyzing risk and behaving in an intelligent fashion. 476 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,400 Speaker 1: And frankly, anyone who's saying a five year old needs 477 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 1: to get a COVID vaccine shot is behaving, I think, 478 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,439 Speaker 1: in a crazy manner and not analyzing risk in a 479 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,119 Speaker 1: legitimate fashion. We'll talk about this and more as we 480 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 1: continue to move forward. 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I want to tell you, though, we have 500 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 1: a really important guest joining us in just a few minutes. 501 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 1: He had been the US ambassador to Afghanistan under the 502 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 1: Bush and then Obama administrations. He was the chief negotiator 503 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 1: during the Trump and then Biden administrations with the Taliban 504 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 1: for US withdrawal and for essentially the end state of 505 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 1: the US war in Afghanistan. He has resigned from the 506 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 1: Biden administration as of just a week ago, and he 507 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 1: will be coming on the show. Zalme Khalilzad will be 508 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 1: with us, and he'll be able to answer questions like 509 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 1: why was this withdrawal such a debacle? Why did the 510 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 1: planning look so slipshod? What did the Bide administration do 511 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 1: differently than the alleged plan that they inherited that they 512 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 1: couldn't deviate from when it came to Trump. We know 513 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,479 Speaker 1: they did deviate from the Trump plan, but we can 514 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 1: ask him those things. I do not know if you 515 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 1: could find a person who has worked at the highest 516 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 1: level of diplomacy and foreign relations in the US government 517 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 1: who has longer deeper institutional knowledge and ties to the 518 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 1: issue of Afghanistan than Zalmi Khalilzad so I. Some of 519 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 1: you may have heard of him, some of you may not. 520 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 1: This is the guy who can get us the answers 521 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 1: on what actually happened with a Biden administration withdrawal from Afghanistan. 522 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 1: He resigned from this administration, so I think we're going 523 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 1: to get some important truth from him about exactly what 524 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 1: went on. That'll be coming up in just a matter 525 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 1: of minutes. And Clay, we've just while we're speaking about Biden, 526 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 1: I gotta say they're trying desperately to sell this Biden plan. 527 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 1: People are figuring out now it's making a lot of rounds. 528 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 1: Hold on, so you're just going to tax the billionaires 529 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 1: unrealized gains. You're not going to tax, say, the unrealized 530 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 1: gains of four or one K plans. You're not going 531 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 1: to do that, right, You're not gonna all of a 532 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 1: sudden start saying, well, you know, everybody who has a 533 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 1: certain amount that's in there is going to get to buck. 534 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 1: This is the story of the Internal Revenue Service. Right, 535 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 1: Initially they only taxed the super wealthy, and they said, hey, 536 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 1: this is not going to impact us at all, meaning 537 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 1: the common folk. Right, and as soon as you implement 538 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 1: a new paradigm. I mean, there are a lot of 539 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 1: people right now sitting on homes that have increased substantially 540 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 1: in value. Right. Let's say you bought a house for 541 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 1: three hundred thousand dollars, which I bet you know a 542 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 1: decent number of our listeners might have, and you've had 543 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 1: that house for a decade now, and now it's worth 544 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 1: six hundred thousand dollars. What if the government decides that 545 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 1: you're going to have to pay taxes on that three 546 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars in increased home value that you got. 547 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 1: This is a brand new dynamic. Again, I think this 548 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 1: is going to be played out in the courts because 549 00:31:55,920 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 1: it's unclear whether the federal government has the ability to 550 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 1: tax unrealized capital gains. And again, I think we need 551 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 1: to make people understand here, this is paper profits. This 552 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 1: is if you bought a stock and you held it 553 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 1: and it's now at twenty dollars. In theory, if you 554 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 1: sold it, you would make that money, but until you 555 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 1: sold it, it's all on paper. This is what they're 556 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 1: going to start to do if they will tax the billionaires, 557 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 1: trust me, it's gonna come for the millionaires, and sooner 558 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 1: or later, just like the tax code itself, it comes 559 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 1: for the regular joe's like you and me and fucking 560 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 1: everybody else out there. That's where the revenue is. You know, 561 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 1: it's folks who are working and paying their bills all 562 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 1: together in the aggregate. That's where the real squeezes. That's 563 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 1: where the government can get the most amount of bang 564 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 1: for their buck, so to speak, by going after the 565 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 1: masses of people. I mean, you could seize every dollar 566 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 1: that these billionaires have. It's not going to fund the government. 567 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 1: And I'm not even talking about their unrealized gains. I mean, 568 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:01,239 Speaker 1: you could take the richest points zero zero zero, we' 569 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 1: the one percent of Americans, whatever it may be, and 570 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,480 Speaker 1: sees all of their assets, and guess what, you still 571 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 1: would not be able to fund all these federal government programs. 572 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 1: It wouldn't take care of the almost thirty trillion dollars 573 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 1: now we have the national debt. But Biden's still out 574 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 1: there whispering to you, because if he whispers, if he whispers, 575 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 1: it's gotta be true. He's telling you it's a tax cut. 576 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,720 Speaker 1: He is pushing play thirteen. Everybody talks about the children, 577 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 1: and Josh has heard me say it. I viewed as 578 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 1: a tax cut from middle class families, a tax cut. 579 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 1: We never have an argument when we talk about with 580 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 1: a wealthy this is a tax cut. It changes the 581 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 1: lives of the American people. I mean, he can call 582 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 1: it a hippopotamus if he wants. It, doesn't make it true. 583 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 1: It's it's not a tax cut, Clay. That's not what 584 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 1: he's pushing. That's not what this program, this bill is 585 00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 1: all about. It's a massive health tax. And for anybody 586 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 1: out there who is a student of history, that's how 587 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 1: our income tax started. The idea roughly one hundred years ago, 588 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:13,719 Speaker 1: was we're only going to income tax the richest among us. 589 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:18,960 Speaker 1: That was the idea. Once this policy becomes a reality, 590 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,759 Speaker 1: I'm just telling you, I think there's a very good 591 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 1: chance that more and more people find themselves caught up 592 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 1: in this wealth tax, and sooner or later, it ain't 593 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 1: a wealth tax. It's just a tax. And again I'm 594 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 1: not that confident Buck on the implementation ability, whether it's constitutional. 595 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,839 Speaker 1: First of all, the tax unrealized capital gains. Secondly, I'm 596 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,440 Speaker 1: not confident that the federal government is going to be 597 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:47,399 Speaker 1: able to put forth a policy that the best accountants 598 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,359 Speaker 1: and the best tax lawyers are not going to be 599 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,960 Speaker 1: able to exploit such that they're not actually going to 600 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 1: be able to run a functional part of the government. 601 00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,400 Speaker 1: Here and think about also what this will mean for 602 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 1: people that have family farms for generations. Right, you might 603 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,839 Speaker 1: have a couple of hundred acres that you've been farming. Well, 604 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 1: that real estate value may have increased substantially, so are 605 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 1: you going to be exempted from this? But it just 606 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 1: means they'll be endless carve outs and manipulation and jockeying 607 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:20,880 Speaker 1: for favorable treatment within this new unreal unrealized games component 608 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,480 Speaker 1: of the tax code. And what you're saying, Clay, Yeah, 609 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 1: the billionaires, they're always going to find a way. They 610 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 1: will move their assets to another place, to another another area, 611 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 1: another realm where they are shielded, or they just won't 612 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:34,920 Speaker 1: be investing the same, you know, the same way that 613 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 1: they'll have a very different approach. Whereas you know, the 614 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 1: person that has a family house that maybe has doubled 615 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,840 Speaker 1: in value over twenty years or fifteen years or whatever 616 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:44,759 Speaker 1: what happens to them. You know, you've got this half 617 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,400 Speaker 1: million dollar house now that you've got and you've got 618 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 1: to pay unrealized gains on that. Where does that money 619 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,600 Speaker 1: come from? No doubt it is going to be a 620 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 1: monster issue. Buck, We've got a big interview. Tell people 621 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 1: again who were about to talk to here at the 622 00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:03,319 Speaker 1: top of the hour. Zomee Khalilzad, the single official with 623 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:08,879 Speaker 1: the longest and highest level ties to the US Afghan situation. 624 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 1: He was US Ambassador to Afghanistan under the Bush and 625 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:16,520 Speaker 1: Obama administrations and has been the chief negotiator with the 626 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:20,960 Speaker 1: Taliban for US withdrawal under the Trump and Biden administrations. 627 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,279 Speaker 1: You will want to hear this interview, and it is 628 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:28,320 Speaker 1: coming up in a moment. You're listening to. 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