WEBVTT - 2020 Quarterback Draft Preview with Ben Solak 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:06.960 Practors were Alps Patrick drawing the textile. What a win 0:00:07.160 --> 0:00:12.280 for this Miami Dolphin team. Wow. What is up? Dolphins? 0:00:12.360 --> 0:00:15.800 And welcome to the Drivetime Podcast, part of the Miami 0:00:15.840 --> 0:00:20.760 Dolphins official podcast network covering your Miami Dolphins. I am 0:00:20.800 --> 0:00:23.360 your host, Travis Wingfield, and I'm here to bring you 0:00:23.360 --> 0:00:26.640 your daily dose of Miami Dolphins football and on today 0:00:26.720 --> 0:00:30.080 show the podcast, I'm sure many of you have been 0:00:30.120 --> 0:00:33.800 waiting for the quarterback preview edition of our draft shows, 0:00:34.000 --> 0:00:37.360 and who better than Benjamin Solac of the Draft Network. 0:00:37.479 --> 0:00:40.559 He's gonna stop by to give us detailed analysis on 0:00:40.600 --> 0:00:42.839 the top four as well as the rest of this 0:00:42.920 --> 0:00:46.760 quarterback class and this interview it got very, very in 0:00:46.880 --> 0:00:49.800 depth all of that and more on this Monday, April 0:00:50.560 --> 0:00:57.440 edition of the Drift Time Podcasts. And we're gonna get 0:00:57.440 --> 0:00:59.680 to that interview with Ben here in just one second. 0:00:59.720 --> 0:01:01.920 But first, a couple of notes off the top here. 0:01:02.080 --> 0:01:04.240 I want to remind you Dolphins fans to check out 0:01:04.280 --> 0:01:07.959 our virtual Draft on the Miami Dolphins official Facebook page. 0:01:08.040 --> 0:01:11.560 We're gonna have player interviews, draft breakdowns, a live panel 0:01:11.840 --> 0:01:15.240 covering the draft from every angle for your Miami Dolphins 0:01:15.400 --> 0:01:17.520 and the team of course, that leads the draft this 0:01:17.600 --> 0:01:21.360 year with four teen picks, fourteen selections for your Dolphins 0:01:21.480 --> 0:01:25.080 in the NFL Draft, that, of course is Thursday April 0:01:25.880 --> 0:01:29.000 at eight o'clock Eastern, and then once the draft concludes, 0:01:29.120 --> 0:01:31.039 we're not gonna be done yet with that, because we're 0:01:31.040 --> 0:01:34.840 gonna have articles and podcasts and interviews and plenty of 0:01:34.880 --> 0:01:38.240 comprehensive coverage and all the new rookies heading to Miami 0:01:38.440 --> 0:01:41.319 in twenty at the conclusion of this year's draft, So 0:01:41.360 --> 0:01:46.560 don't miss it the Miami Dolphins Virtual Draft April on Facebook. Now, 0:01:46.600 --> 0:01:48.480 let's go ahead and get to the reason you're all 0:01:48.520 --> 0:01:51.680 here to hear Benjamin Slack breakdown this quarterback class. And 0:01:51.680 --> 0:01:54.000 this guy, if you haven't seen him on Twitter breaking 0:01:54.040 --> 0:01:57.040 down videos, breaking down players and prospects, he's one of 0:01:57.040 --> 0:01:59.360 the very best in the game. And he has charted 0:01:59.400 --> 0:02:02.440 all these quarter backs all season long and twenty nineteen 0:02:02.600 --> 0:02:04.400 and has a good grasp on who can do what 0:02:04.480 --> 0:02:06.440 and what system. So we're gonna get to him in 0:02:06.480 --> 0:02:09.400 just one second. But first, there is obviously a lot 0:02:09.400 --> 0:02:12.919 of speculations surrounding Alabama quarterback to a tongue of Voloa 0:02:13.200 --> 0:02:16.480 and Ian Rappaport on Thursday, took to Twitter to talk 0:02:16.520 --> 0:02:19.200 about some of the workouts and the availability of those 0:02:19.240 --> 0:02:22.480 workout videos. The quarterback put out into the atmosphere for 0:02:22.760 --> 0:02:26.720 NFL scouts and GM's tape. Look at this from Rappaport's timeline. 0:02:26.960 --> 0:02:29.959 He and Mike Garafolo sharing the story on this one. 0:02:30.160 --> 0:02:33.519 This is reading verbatim to a Tongue of Voloa participated 0:02:33.560 --> 0:02:36.720 in a one hour long workout with fifty five scripted 0:02:36.760 --> 0:02:40.320 throws and another twenty throws in a dynamic drill setting 0:02:40.480 --> 0:02:43.360 at a local private gym in place of a traditional 0:02:43.400 --> 0:02:46.160 pro day workout. There were less than ten people present 0:02:46.200 --> 0:02:49.160 for the workout. The health and safety guidelines set forth 0:02:49.240 --> 0:02:52.720 during the COVID nineteen pandemic or practice with everyone's health 0:02:52.720 --> 0:02:56.320 and social conscious in mind. The video will be distributed 0:02:56.440 --> 0:02:59.440 to all thirty two teams per Tongue of Voloha's reps. 0:02:59.480 --> 0:03:01.480 It is that time of the year again with the draft. 0:03:01.520 --> 0:03:03.760 News is gonna come in hot and heavy from every 0:03:03.760 --> 0:03:07.560 single angle, speculation rumors, who's trading up, who's trading down. 0:03:07.800 --> 0:03:09.680 One thing, we know for sure, we're gonna get the 0:03:09.720 --> 0:03:12.000 ins and outs on the things these quarterbacks can do 0:03:12.120 --> 0:03:14.680 to be successful at the next level with my guest 0:03:14.880 --> 0:03:17.840 Benjamin Solak of the Draft Network. So let's go ahead 0:03:17.840 --> 0:03:20.320 and roll this interview. You guys are gonna love this one. 0:03:20.720 --> 0:03:23.520 And joining the podcast now is the Senior. That's right, 0:03:23.600 --> 0:03:26.000 you heard it right, the senior draft analyst at the 0:03:26.080 --> 0:03:30.280 Draft Network and the author of Contextualized Quarterbacking Joe Burrows 0:03:30.320 --> 0:03:33.760 releases on Saturday. The entire thing drops on Tuesday. I 0:03:33.800 --> 0:03:35.920 can't wait to read that on the Draft Network. He 0:03:36.080 --> 0:03:39.200 is Benjamin Solak, Ben, what's going on? Man? Yeah, I'm 0:03:39.200 --> 0:03:41.560 doing well, Travis. Thank you. I appreciate you driving. The 0:03:41.600 --> 0:03:44.800 Senior can't tell you how many times I get dropped 0:03:44.800 --> 0:03:48.600 on a radio hit somewhere, and clearly the host is 0:03:48.640 --> 0:03:50.800 like just seeing, like, you know, my profile picture in 0:03:50.840 --> 0:03:52.960 my bio and he goes to introduce me and he 0:03:53.000 --> 0:03:55.280 sees that senior and he like doesn't know what to do, 0:03:55.360 --> 0:03:58.680 and he goes, he's a senior draft analyt's to the 0:03:58.760 --> 0:04:02.040 Draft Network and that's the title. Brother. Me and Ben. 0:04:02.040 --> 0:04:04.920 We're joking off air before the podcast. His Skype profile 0:04:04.920 --> 0:04:07.400 photos from like four years ago, so he looks even 0:04:07.440 --> 0:04:09.480 younger than that one, but you wouldn't know it from 0:04:09.480 --> 0:04:11.960 his football knowledge. This guy as a wealth of knowledge, 0:04:12.000 --> 0:04:14.320 especially when it comes to the quarterback position. Before we 0:04:14.360 --> 0:04:16.200 get into that, Ben, we had a chance to meet 0:04:16.400 --> 0:04:19.719 in person back in Indianapolis before the world got crazy, 0:04:20.040 --> 0:04:21.800 and that was pretty much the last thing that I 0:04:21.839 --> 0:04:24.120 did before quarantine. How are you holding up in these 0:04:24.120 --> 0:04:27.719 crazy times? Man? Yeah, it's wild. I mean, like, it's 0:04:27.760 --> 0:04:32.400 it's very odd to be so thankful for the NFL Draft. 0:04:32.520 --> 0:04:34.680 Usually by this time in the in the process, I 0:04:34.720 --> 0:04:37.000 don't care about these players. I don't care about these pigs. 0:04:37.200 --> 0:04:38.719 I just wanted to happen so I can go to 0:04:38.760 --> 0:04:41.040 bed and I can start thinking about something else. You know, 0:04:41.320 --> 0:04:44.200 eventually you just get inundated with it. But man, the 0:04:44.400 --> 0:04:48.440 the league, I think has really done a good job 0:04:48.520 --> 0:04:52.480 here in finding the safest way to do this while 0:04:52.640 --> 0:04:56.000 still doing this because we really do need it. I 0:04:56.040 --> 0:04:58.400 really like we really do. It seems foolish to say 0:04:58.400 --> 0:05:01.599 we need something that's not even really live sports. It's 0:05:01.680 --> 0:05:04.719 live teams picking players to eventually play a sport. But 0:05:04.800 --> 0:05:07.200 it's something new in the sports world. And you didn't 0:05:07.240 --> 0:05:09.040 realize how much you relied on that to just kind 0:05:09.040 --> 0:05:11.560 of get through the monotony of your day until you 0:05:11.720 --> 0:05:13.479 lost it and that's kind of how that goes. And 0:05:13.520 --> 0:05:15.919 so I'm really excited and happy that the league found 0:05:15.920 --> 0:05:18.040 a safe way to get the draft done. Hopefully it's 0:05:18.040 --> 0:05:20.680 also virtually safe and nobody gets hacked and started picking 0:05:20.760 --> 0:05:23.839 kickers in round one, of course, but we I think 0:05:23.839 --> 0:05:28.839 we have a really good opportunity to to put something 0:05:28.880 --> 0:05:30.600 together that will help out a lot of people who 0:05:30.640 --> 0:05:32.680 are struggling through this. So I'm safe, My family saved, 0:05:32.680 --> 0:05:35.760 and that's tremendous. But it's really cool to be a 0:05:35.880 --> 0:05:38.200 very small part of what I think is an important 0:05:38.240 --> 0:05:40.360 event right now, which is the NFL Draft in the 0:05:40.400 --> 0:05:42.640 middle of quarantine, giving us all something to talk about 0:05:42.720 --> 0:05:45.240 that isn't how crazy we're going stuck at home. Yeah, 0:05:45.279 --> 0:05:46.960 the back end of March and the first part of 0:05:47.000 --> 0:05:50.120 April flew by where the tournament and stably a basketball 0:05:50.160 --> 0:05:52.560 tournament would have been, and not having that, like, that's 0:05:52.560 --> 0:05:55.440 when it really hit me that we just you're sucking Cide. 0:05:55.680 --> 0:05:57.760 The best things to do watch sports, in my opinion, 0:05:57.800 --> 0:06:00.919 is not available to you. So I completely free agency 0:06:01.040 --> 0:06:02.720 was a great break as well, even though it's only 0:06:02.760 --> 0:06:04.640 a couple of days long. But we're gonna get into 0:06:04.680 --> 0:06:07.479 the weeds here on this draft class. But first I 0:06:07.480 --> 0:06:10.200 want to ask you some general scouting questions, Ben, because 0:06:10.200 --> 0:06:12.520 I always appreciate the way you break the game down. 0:06:12.600 --> 0:06:14.920 You know, there's plenty of accounts out there that will 0:06:14.920 --> 0:06:16.960 tweet a video of a play and they'll tell you 0:06:17.040 --> 0:06:20.320 quarterback X throws the ball accurately here, but that doesn't 0:06:20.320 --> 0:06:22.480 really give you a whole lot of what actually happened. 0:06:22.480 --> 0:06:24.840 But you do so well to get into the design 0:06:24.880 --> 0:06:27.360 of the offense, the structure of the defense, and the 0:06:27.400 --> 0:06:29.880 process that brought us the result of the play. So 0:06:29.960 --> 0:06:32.520 my question to you, Ben is with those really in 0:06:32.600 --> 0:06:34.960 depth videos you do, and you guys can find those 0:06:34.960 --> 0:06:37.719 on his timeline at Benjamin Solak, when you're watching the 0:06:37.760 --> 0:06:41.760 tape or those clips typically, are those clips typically like 0:06:41.800 --> 0:06:44.560 a culmination of what you think the player is and 0:06:44.600 --> 0:06:47.000 how did you arrive at this place where you're able 0:06:47.040 --> 0:06:50.320 to see things that so many others really don't. Yeah, 0:06:50.520 --> 0:06:53.159 it's tricky, so les las to it, right. I think 0:06:53.160 --> 0:06:55.760 the first thing is which which play you choose? And 0:06:55.839 --> 0:06:57.640 sometimes it's this is a really cool play, I want 0:06:57.680 --> 0:06:59.560 to talk about it, But most of the time it's 0:06:59.680 --> 0:07:02.480 I the play that's representative of something I see frequently 0:07:02.480 --> 0:07:04.920 on film because I think the coolest thing that happens 0:07:04.920 --> 0:07:08.240 with those videos is when somebody who isn't a pro 0:07:08.440 --> 0:07:11.120 isn't an expert, wasn't a writer, who's just watching prospects 0:07:11.120 --> 0:07:14.400 because it's fun, goes back and and and you know, 0:07:14.480 --> 0:07:17.880 responds to that twee or quote, tweets that two months 0:07:17.920 --> 0:07:20.520 later or three months later, however long, and says, I 0:07:20.560 --> 0:07:22.680 feel like, this is what's happening here, and they can 0:07:22.680 --> 0:07:25.840 correctly identify it on that player's film later a similar 0:07:25.880 --> 0:07:28.920 trait is similar issue with similar strength whatever. So so 0:07:29.280 --> 0:07:31.960 I want to grab something that's representative of something that's 0:07:31.960 --> 0:07:35.080 common on the player and also something that's important to 0:07:35.120 --> 0:07:37.760 the evaluation of the player. You know. I think if 0:07:37.760 --> 0:07:40.400 you look at like all the Justin Herbert videos in 0:07:40.440 --> 0:07:43.800 the world from a draft perspective on Twitter would be 0:07:43.840 --> 0:07:46.360 about his arm strength. And it's just not very interesting 0:07:46.360 --> 0:07:48.280 for me to talk about arm strength in a vacuum 0:07:48.560 --> 0:07:50.640 because I don't think it's hard to to see. I 0:07:50.640 --> 0:07:52.280 don't think it's hard of it. That ball was fast, 0:07:52.680 --> 0:07:55.520 that ball was far, you know, means like pretty standard stuff. 0:07:55.680 --> 0:07:57.440 Obviously it's something you have to watch for, but I 0:07:57.440 --> 0:08:00.440 don't think it's something that's particularly educational. So the primary 0:08:00.480 --> 0:08:03.480 thing I want to highlight these videos is an interesting 0:08:03.520 --> 0:08:06.480 event for the player that I think is representative of 0:08:06.520 --> 0:08:10.480 their film, and you can replicate finding it in different games. Now, 0:08:10.800 --> 0:08:14.440 when it comes to having the information necessary to really 0:08:14.560 --> 0:08:17.720 break down a play, I wish it was an easy answer, 0:08:17.760 --> 0:08:21.360 and it's not. You you have to expose yourself to everything, 0:08:21.480 --> 0:08:24.480 like you gotta. The best thing I ever did was 0:08:24.480 --> 0:08:26.880 get on Twitter, which Twitter is bad for a lot 0:08:26.880 --> 0:08:29.640 of reasons, but I I you know, if I could 0:08:29.680 --> 0:08:31.680 get off Twitter, I would like it. It puts gray 0:08:31.720 --> 0:08:34.560 hairs on my head. But the best thing I ever did, 0:08:34.640 --> 0:08:37.080 and I oh, Chuck Booth, my editor at section two 0:08:37.080 --> 0:08:39.720 on five back for us, and I always will, you know, 0:08:39.800 --> 0:08:41.480 everything I get out of this job will always go 0:08:41.520 --> 0:08:43.240 back to him saying, you've got to get on Twitter 0:08:43.280 --> 0:08:45.360 because you have to get associated with the community, and 0:08:45.360 --> 0:08:47.920 you have to expose yourself to the community, because that's 0:08:47.960 --> 0:08:52.800 where you see seven year NFL that's happening to talk 0:08:52.880 --> 0:08:55.760 for fifteen seconds about an offensive tackles pass set. That's 0:08:55.760 --> 0:08:57.840 where you see old coaches, not where you see clips 0:08:57.840 --> 0:09:01.040 from college coaches. And this is where the information gets dispersed. 0:09:01.080 --> 0:09:04.199 You have to consume everything because the most important thing 0:09:04.280 --> 0:09:07.440 you can do in scouting, and this is the massive 0:09:07.559 --> 0:09:10.000 difficult hurdle to overcome. So you have to be able 0:09:10.040 --> 0:09:12.240 to talk about what isn't there. You have to be 0:09:12.280 --> 0:09:14.520 able to say, this is what should have occurred, this 0:09:14.559 --> 0:09:16.480 is what could have possibly occurred, this is what we 0:09:16.520 --> 0:09:19.760 expect to occur before the ball is even snapped. But 0:09:19.880 --> 0:09:22.160 while the play is going on, before you see the outcome, 0:09:22.360 --> 0:09:23.760 you have to be able to talk about the range 0:09:23.760 --> 0:09:26.320 of outcomes, the possibilities, what could be done. How do 0:09:26.360 --> 0:09:29.000 you know the quarterback should have thrown the check down 0:09:29.120 --> 0:09:31.800 relative to the deep past. If you haven't watched a 0:09:31.840 --> 0:09:35.480 ton of NFL quarterbacks in similar context make that same decision, 0:09:35.679 --> 0:09:37.600 you don't know what you're measuring them up against. So 0:09:37.880 --> 0:09:41.199 whenever I make the videos, and hopefully you know, in 0:09:41.360 --> 0:09:43.800 in things that I write and in scouting reports, you 0:09:43.800 --> 0:09:46.360 can find that I'm constantly trying to have a voice 0:09:46.400 --> 0:09:49.400 of he he could have done this, He was able 0:09:49.440 --> 0:09:51.080 to do that, This was available to him, but he 0:09:51.160 --> 0:09:53.680 chose that. And that's not necessarily a weakness. Oftentimes it's 0:09:53.720 --> 0:09:57.040 just stylistic things I like what I've been using Justin 0:09:57.080 --> 0:10:00.000 Herbert as an example. I constantly talked about Justin Herbert 0:10:00.120 --> 0:10:03.400 having more throws than other quarterbacks because with his arm talent, 0:10:03.640 --> 0:10:05.800 he just got more at his disposal. He's got more 0:10:05.920 --> 0:10:08.400 things available to him. He can attempt things that Jake 0:10:08.440 --> 0:10:12.000 from cannot attempt because of his physical tools. Now he 0:10:12.080 --> 0:10:14.760 chooses sometimes too and sometimes not to. But it's important 0:10:14.800 --> 0:10:17.720 to discuss those possibilities because it helps us calibrate to 0:10:17.760 --> 0:10:20.120 what could have happened and what actually did happen. So 0:10:20.160 --> 0:10:23.880 the main thing in order to to scout successfully is 0:10:23.920 --> 0:10:25.640 not to be able to say Justin Herbert is a 0:10:25.640 --> 0:10:27.360 better arm than Jordan's. Love was a better arm than 0:10:27.360 --> 0:10:29.560 two and Tug is a better arm than Joe Burrow like, 0:10:29.600 --> 0:10:31.880 which is all true and good, but it is to 0:10:31.960 --> 0:10:35.880 say Justin Herbert could have done all of these things. 0:10:35.960 --> 0:10:38.199 He could have managed the pocket like Joe Burrow, and 0:10:38.200 --> 0:10:40.200 he could have thrown in rhythm like to a toungo 0:10:40.240 --> 0:10:44.000 by Lola, But he elected to hold the pocket strong, 0:10:44.080 --> 0:10:46.880 be strong, steady, his feet throw out of rhythm deep 0:10:46.880 --> 0:10:48.680 down the field. This is why he was able to 0:10:48.679 --> 0:10:50.120 do it. This is how the outcome of the play 0:10:50.320 --> 0:10:51.800 was this is the sort of offense that will work 0:10:51.800 --> 0:10:53.400 in is the sort of offense it won't work in. 0:10:53.720 --> 0:10:56.040 You need to have all of this information, all of 0:10:56.080 --> 0:10:58.959 these outcomes at your disposal in order to accurately talk 0:10:59.000 --> 0:11:01.840 about how valuable play is, what it was in context, 0:11:01.840 --> 0:11:03.839 and what it brings to a team. So the most 0:11:03.880 --> 0:11:06.920 important thing is exposing yourself. Anything that you can watch, 0:11:07.200 --> 0:11:09.400 anything that you can read, the talks about why a 0:11:09.480 --> 0:11:12.640 play happened, Do it, and continue to gain the knowledge 0:11:12.640 --> 0:11:15.760 game and knowledge game the knowledge. Then make your own assumptions, 0:11:15.760 --> 0:11:18.240 make your own scouts and scouting decisions, your own judgments, 0:11:18.360 --> 0:11:20.480 publicize them, and when they're wrong, swallow the pill and 0:11:20.559 --> 0:11:22.400 keep rolling because you just got better and you're gonna 0:11:22.440 --> 0:11:24.840 get it right next time. I absolutely love that answer 0:11:24.880 --> 0:11:27.760 for two reasons. One, you talk about exposing yourself. I've 0:11:27.800 --> 0:11:30.720 always called myself a football sponge. And you talk about 0:11:30.720 --> 0:11:32.840 being on Twitter, Like you said, there are so many 0:11:32.880 --> 0:11:35.480 great accounts that can tweet videos of prospects and tell 0:11:35.559 --> 0:11:38.120 you here's the technicalities of what they're doing wrong or 0:11:38.160 --> 0:11:41.000 what they're doing right. But also just like watching different 0:11:41.040 --> 0:11:43.920 things on television or being a sponge on YouTube, like, 0:11:44.000 --> 0:11:46.960 for instance, I learned a good tight end blocking technique 0:11:46.960 --> 0:11:49.079 based on Luke Wilson trying to learn how to block 0:11:49.280 --> 0:11:51.400 at tight end on hard knocks one time, you just 0:11:51.440 --> 0:11:53.840 like always open yourself up to what's out there for 0:11:53.960 --> 0:11:57.600 un available. People have vast knowledge of this game and 0:11:57.640 --> 0:11:59.920 they'll teach you that stuff. And also just putting yourself 0:11:59.920 --> 0:12:02.000 in front of the screen. Because when I first started out, Ben, 0:12:02.040 --> 0:12:04.760 you made a mention back to team. I started a 0:12:04.800 --> 0:12:07.040 website called third and ten dot com where I charted 0:12:07.080 --> 0:12:10.200 every single quarterbacks throws in the NFL that year, And 0:12:10.280 --> 0:12:12.000 at first I didn't really know what I was doing, 0:12:12.040 --> 0:12:13.800 but by the end of the project, I had a 0:12:13.840 --> 0:12:16.640 better idea better field because I had seen thousands and 0:12:16.679 --> 0:12:19.360 thousands of throws. So at the time the effort, I 0:12:19.520 --> 0:12:21.720 love it, I appreciate it, and it shows in your workman. 0:12:22.000 --> 0:12:23.839 And with that, let's go ahead and get into the 0:12:24.240 --> 0:12:27.199 weeds here on these quarterbacks, not the draft quarterbacks yet. 0:12:27.240 --> 0:12:29.760 I want to talk first about Ryan Fitzpatrick because you 0:12:29.840 --> 0:12:32.959 talk about the options that the quarterback has at his disposal, 0:12:33.240 --> 0:12:35.400 and he was playing so well down the stretch. The 0:12:35.480 --> 0:12:38.720 offense was humming. You saw it against your Philadelphia Eagles. 0:12:38.760 --> 0:12:41.120 Ben not to bring up a sore subject there, but 0:12:41.360 --> 0:12:43.200 you know I say this all the time, and it 0:12:43.200 --> 0:12:47.040 gets greeded with backlash that quarterbacks with cerebral aptitude for 0:12:47.120 --> 0:12:49.280 the game, the more they see, they're only going to 0:12:49.360 --> 0:12:51.880 get better as their career goes along. And so last 0:12:51.920 --> 0:12:55.480 training camp, when Ryan Fitzpatrick tells US Dolphins reporters that 0:12:55.559 --> 0:12:57.880 he thinks his best ball is ahead of him, I 0:12:57.920 --> 0:13:01.480 think he was right. Do you see that on his tape? Right? 0:13:01.520 --> 0:13:05.040 So Fitzpatrick is so freaking fun, right, and and and 0:13:05.080 --> 0:13:08.440 what I think your reality is with Fitzpatrick is he 0:13:08.559 --> 0:13:12.760 doesn't look it because he's a bearded Harvard middle aged 0:13:12.920 --> 0:13:18.360 wild man. But the league has developed towards his skill set. Right. 0:13:18.679 --> 0:13:22.679 Fitzpatrick in twenty nineteen had a top ten intended air 0:13:22.760 --> 0:13:24.880 yards per Next Gen Stats. I think he was like seventh, 0:13:25.120 --> 0:13:27.240 And then he had a bottom five time to throw. 0:13:27.440 --> 0:13:29.320 He was third last in the league. I remember this 0:13:29.400 --> 0:13:31.559 because in twenty nineteen he beat up on the Eagles, 0:13:32.000 --> 0:13:34.880 uh for the Dolphins and d and he did it 0:13:35.000 --> 0:13:38.000 in Tampa and it was the exact same thing. It 0:13:38.120 --> 0:13:41.720 was extremely low time to throw and extremely deep intended 0:13:41.760 --> 0:13:46.160 air yards. Ryan Fitzpatrick is an ideal deep rhythm thrower. 0:13:46.280 --> 0:13:49.080 Ryan Fitzpatrick will take a shotgun snap, sit back on 0:13:49.120 --> 0:13:50.760 a three step drop, and if he sees he has 0:13:50.840 --> 0:13:52.760 one on one coverage to the outside, whether it was 0:13:52.800 --> 0:13:56.720 to Mike Evans DeVante Barker in twenty nineteen, he's taking 0:13:56.720 --> 0:13:59.840 the shot because Fitzpatrick understands. Listen, if I've got a 0:14:00.080 --> 0:14:03.480 fifty fifty ball twenty five yards down the field, that's 0:14:03.520 --> 0:14:06.120 got plus e V relative to an eight ball, it's 0:14:06.120 --> 0:14:08.200 five yards down the field for example New England's in 0:14:08.200 --> 0:14:10.400 Week seventeen. I mean, let's got the best cover corners 0:14:10.400 --> 0:14:12.640 in the league. How's Miami putting points on them? Well, 0:14:12.640 --> 0:14:16.280 it's because even if they're low percentage throws, explosive plays 0:14:16.280 --> 0:14:19.400 will even the odds. It will even the seesaw for 0:14:19.520 --> 0:14:23.480 offenses that are potentially struggling against top defenses. So Fitzpatrick 0:14:23.800 --> 0:14:26.680 gets rid of the ball quickly but down the field. 0:14:26.720 --> 0:14:28.720 And I said that the league has grown towards his 0:14:28.760 --> 0:14:31.200 play style. It certainly has. You know, this is the 0:14:32.280 --> 0:14:36.640 rhythm game. In the twenty thousands, two thousand five, thou 0:14:36.880 --> 0:14:39.240 eight was the quick game and the deep passing game 0:14:39.360 --> 0:14:42.440 was the under center, seventh step drop all the way 0:14:42.480 --> 0:14:44.960 down the field, reading against two high safety game now 0:14:45.200 --> 0:14:47.920 out of a shotgun thrown against leverage one on one 0:14:47.960 --> 0:14:51.080 coverage outside the numbers. This is something that has become 0:14:51.120 --> 0:14:53.480 the standard deep passing play in the NFL's It's been 0:14:53.480 --> 0:14:57.040 adopted from college spread systems. That's a great throw for 0:14:57.200 --> 0:14:59.880 Fitzpatrick's skill set, so the league has grown towards his 0:15:00.040 --> 0:15:03.840 play style. He's an incredibly aggressive quarterback who still remains 0:15:03.920 --> 0:15:05.880 risk averse because of how quickly gets rid of the ball, 0:15:05.880 --> 0:15:07.600 so he doesn't take sax. He doesn't fumble the ball 0:15:07.640 --> 0:15:09.920 in the pocket nearly as much as other quarterbacks who 0:15:09.920 --> 0:15:12.520 throw the ball deep down the field. We had Neil 0:15:12.560 --> 0:15:14.960 Reynolds of Sky Sports on the podcast last week and 0:15:15.000 --> 0:15:17.360 he was breaking down uh an interview that he had 0:15:17.360 --> 0:15:19.840 with Ryan Fitzpatrick one on one, and he put it perfectly. 0:15:19.840 --> 0:15:22.320 In my opinion, Fitzpatrick looks like a guy that want 0:15:22.360 --> 0:15:24.680 a quarterback competition from the fans to come out and 0:15:24.680 --> 0:15:27.680 play for a game, and he Fitzpatrick loved it. He agreed, 0:15:27.720 --> 0:15:29.680 he laughed about it. But he's out there getting the 0:15:29.720 --> 0:15:31.840 job done. Lead the team in rushing, had the big 0:15:31.880 --> 0:15:35.360 plays explosive downfield aerial assault like you mentioned Ben. And 0:15:35.400 --> 0:15:37.560 with that, now let's go ahead and transition back towards 0:15:37.640 --> 0:15:39.680 the young pups coming into the league this year. There 0:15:39.720 --> 0:15:41.960 are a top four list in this draft. I think 0:15:42.000 --> 0:15:45.120 everybody is unanimous on the draft network is unanimous on 0:15:45.160 --> 0:15:47.800 these guys, all within the top thirty seven players on 0:15:47.840 --> 0:15:50.640 your guys big board. Joe Burrow to a tongue of voloa, 0:15:50.760 --> 0:15:53.600 justin Herbert Jordan Love. He touched on the arm strength 0:15:53.640 --> 0:15:55.280 a little bit there. But can you kind of separate 0:15:55.360 --> 0:15:57.720 these guys in terms of who does what the best? 0:15:57.840 --> 0:15:59.840 And where might these guys come off the board? Uh? 0:16:00.120 --> 0:16:04.400 Just two weeks now? Yeah, Joe Burrows, he's kind of 0:16:04.440 --> 0:16:06.560 good travel. I don't know to watch him, you intern, 0:16:06.720 --> 0:16:09.280 I can play a little ball. Uh. Burrow will be 0:16:09.400 --> 0:16:11.840 right up there with Baker Mayfields as the most accurate 0:16:11.920 --> 0:16:14.840 quarterback I've charted in three years so. I've been doing 0:16:14.960 --> 0:16:18.000 textual as quarterbacking since the eighteen class. I started it 0:16:18.440 --> 0:16:20.760 as a result of the ten class and kind of 0:16:20.800 --> 0:16:24.960 the incredible amount of of debate and and and scheme 0:16:25.040 --> 0:16:28.600 specific questions that were on that class. Baker was the 0:16:28.600 --> 0:16:30.840 most accurate quarterback by far, He's one of the few 0:16:30.920 --> 0:16:33.480 quarterbacks that's been accurate on more than nine out of 0:16:33.480 --> 0:16:36.600 ten passes. Uh, Burrow is going to be another one 0:16:36.640 --> 0:16:39.000 of those guys. And actually Jordan's Love is accurate on 0:16:39.080 --> 0:16:43.280 exactly point nine zero one pent of his passes, which 0:16:43.320 --> 0:16:47.120 is funny, but that Loves a different conversation. Burrow is 0:16:47.120 --> 0:16:48.760 going to go down as one of the most accurate 0:16:48.800 --> 0:16:52.920 quarterbacks that I've ever evaluated. Now, what Burrow brings that 0:16:53.040 --> 0:16:56.360 Mayfield didn't have was pocket management like you wouldn't believe 0:16:56.600 --> 0:16:59.720 and and Burrows elite trade his pocket management and ploys. 0:16:59.760 --> 0:17:02.120 Bur is never out of a play. When we talk 0:17:02.160 --> 0:17:04.520 about players who can extend plays, we typically think of 0:17:04.600 --> 0:17:07.399 Russell Wilson's. We think of Kyler Murray's and Patrick Mahomes 0:17:07.560 --> 0:17:10.640 and these quarterbacks have elite physical tools to break tackles, 0:17:10.680 --> 0:17:13.560 to escape sacks, and to run on the hoof making 0:17:13.600 --> 0:17:17.240 throws on the run while still abating defenders. Burrow does 0:17:17.280 --> 0:17:20.200 have plus athleticism. You know, people, oh Burrows sneaky athletic 0:17:20.400 --> 0:17:22.840 and Burrows like got all high school state point guard 0:17:22.880 --> 0:17:25.639 like Burrow has been athletics since the beginning. What Burrow 0:17:25.680 --> 0:17:28.160 has his pocket management. Burrow does not need to break 0:17:28.200 --> 0:17:32.399 the pocket to extend plays his his vestibular sense. So 0:17:32.440 --> 0:17:35.200 the understanding of where space is developing in the pocket, 0:17:35.240 --> 0:17:37.800 where offensive linemen are going to end up pushing rushers, 0:17:37.840 --> 0:17:40.560 how twists and stunts are going to develop to create 0:17:40.640 --> 0:17:43.800 space up when you're hitching up in the pocket, it's sublime. 0:17:43.840 --> 0:17:46.200 And for a player who hasn't started for more than 0:17:46.200 --> 0:17:50.160 two seasons, it's ridiculous that he's this experience that he's poised. 0:17:50.280 --> 0:17:54.400 We typically associate poise developing with maturity, developing with experience. 0:17:54.400 --> 0:17:56.320 The more time you spend in the pocket, the better 0:17:56.359 --> 0:17:59.760 you'll get it managing it. Burrows stepped in. Even his 0:17:59.800 --> 0:18:02.440 best trade was pocket management in nineteen he only got better. 0:18:02.840 --> 0:18:05.760 This is extremely natural for him to manage the space 0:18:05.800 --> 0:18:08.679 of the pocket. So in a in a timing based offense, 0:18:08.680 --> 0:18:10.840 Burrow is gonna be just fine. He's gonna be quality, 0:18:10.960 --> 0:18:13.399 just like two would be because he can deliver the 0:18:13.400 --> 0:18:16.280 ball on time, deliver it with the accuracy you understand spacing. 0:18:16.600 --> 0:18:18.159 But even in a in a if you think of 0:18:18.160 --> 0:18:21.960 like a Tennessee style offense, a Los Angeles Rams style offense, 0:18:22.000 --> 0:18:24.560 Green Bay Cincinnati, I'm talking about the Sean McVeigh tree 0:18:24.600 --> 0:18:26.560 here where they're gonna ask you to take five step 0:18:26.600 --> 0:18:29.280 drops from under center after play action and there's gonna 0:18:29.280 --> 0:18:31.640 be two to three routes all developing deep down the field. 0:18:31.760 --> 0:18:33.320 You've gotta be able to hang in that pocket for 0:18:33.359 --> 0:18:36.320 two point five two point seven five three seconds. Burrows 0:18:36.320 --> 0:18:38.600 the ideal quarterback. He's the ideal candidate because he makes 0:18:38.600 --> 0:18:41.320 blocking for him so easy because he moves his spots 0:18:41.359 --> 0:18:43.040 so nicely. So that's where Burrow is going to be 0:18:43.040 --> 0:18:46.160 at his strongest, and that trade translates everywhere. No matter 0:18:46.200 --> 0:18:48.359 what offense he ends up in, Burrow is gonna be 0:18:48.440 --> 0:18:50.400 able to make big plays because he's gonna be able 0:18:50.440 --> 0:18:52.000 to last in the pocket for a long time and 0:18:52.000 --> 0:18:54.480 evade the first and invade the second sack. He's more 0:18:54.480 --> 0:18:56.520 so a pocket passer, and when he gets the comps 0:18:56.520 --> 0:18:59.760