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Speaker 1: Bill's Radio. I'm Josh Reid alongside Thad Brown. At some

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Speaker 1: Ken Dorsey, he's got to be super excited about all

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Speaker 1: the different things he can do. But you know, I

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Speaker 1: wonder how much of that is swirling and how much

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Speaker 1: of that is focused right now, And it's probably a

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Speaker 1: little more in the swirling side, just because it's camp.

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Speaker 1: We haven't really started yet in pat Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's got all the ingredients right, He's got it all.

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Speaker 1: They're all their form. It's just a matter of kind

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Speaker 1: of what the recipe looks like. I guess after after

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Speaker 1: all is said and done, we let's stick on the

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Speaker 1: coaching side of things. Um, you know, talking about Ken

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Speaker 1: Dorsey obviously huge shoes to fill. You know, Brian Dable,

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Speaker 1: what he did with this offense, he was a big

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Speaker 1: part of that. You know, this offense and how explosive

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Speaker 1: they've been. Ken Dorsey takes over and has never called plays.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's there's a lot of question marks surrounding this.

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Speaker 1: But with that being said, one of the things, and

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Speaker 1: you were there, one of the things I found really

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Speaker 1: interesting that Sean McDermott brought up was the idea that

447
00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,840
Speaker 1: they're able to go to OTAs in mini camps and

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Speaker 1: even now training camp way ahead of the curve. Versus,

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Speaker 1: if you bring in a new offensive coordinator with an

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Speaker 1: entirely new system, things are gonna look a little bit different.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna do things that you know, Ken Dorsey wants

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Speaker 1: to do right, but they're not starting from scratch, per se.

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Speaker 1: You know, they they they bite. You bring a guy

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Speaker 1: from the outside end, there's a little bit of starting

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Speaker 1: from scratching and it gets to knowing you period with

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Speaker 1: the most important guy on the team, Josh Allen, And

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Speaker 1: I think that made a lot of sense when the

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Speaker 1: Bills made that move to to keep that continuity, keep

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Speaker 1: your quarterback comfortable, keep the offense kind of flowing in

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Speaker 1: the same direction. So you know, you might bring in

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Speaker 1: a Jameson Crowder or a James Cook or even at

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Speaker 1: Tavon Austin. But even when you do that, you've got

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Speaker 1: a host of guys around him that know what to

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Speaker 1: expect with the offense that can lay out, Okay, here's

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Speaker 1: what we what we want you to do, here's what

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Speaker 1: this is gonna do. Here's what we are trying to

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Speaker 1: get done in this particular situation. The one thing I

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Speaker 1: gotta say about this, Josh, and there's a great piece

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Speaker 1: in The Athletic I think Tim Graham wrote it in

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Speaker 1: terms of how hard it is to become a play

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Speaker 1: caller for the first time, and Kevin Gilbride talked about

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Speaker 1: the difficulty of understanding how to respond and you know,

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Speaker 1: go back and forth in the game and you know,

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Speaker 1: realizing you can plan all week for something, but defenses

475
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Speaker 1: they're planning too, And you got to be able to

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Speaker 1: answer the last first time play caller to win a

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl Mike Holmgren back in the eighties with the Niners,

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Speaker 1: you know, And if you go year by year, which

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Speaker 1: I did, the majority of the guys who are play

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Speaker 1: callers for Super Bowl champions have six, seven, eight, fifteen

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Speaker 1: years experience. So what the Bills are doing here with

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Speaker 1: a brand new play caller on a team that's where

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Speaker 1: a super Bowl win is pretty much the this or

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Speaker 1: a bus season is very very unique. There've been a

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Speaker 1: few that have done it in their second year. Some

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Speaker 1: guys have done it in their second year in the

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Speaker 1: NFL but had prior college play calling experience. It is

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Speaker 1: very rare for a highly successful team like this to

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Speaker 1: go with a first time play caller. Now, look, you

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Speaker 1: know what makes it easy as a play caller when

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Speaker 1: most of the time guys in your team are better

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Speaker 1: than the guys and the other team, which is what

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Speaker 1: the situation is going to be in large part for

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Speaker 1: the Bills, especially a quarterback. So it's not like this

495
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Speaker 1: can't work, but this is a pretty unique way the

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Speaker 1: Bills are going about trying to operate what they hope

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Speaker 1: is going to be a Super Bowl winning off. To

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Speaker 1: steal a line from former the late former Penn State

499
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Speaker 1: coach Joe Paterno, it's more about Jimmy's and Joe's than

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Speaker 1: exes and o's at the end of the day. And

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Speaker 1: let's face it, they've got one of the best Jimmy's

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Speaker 1: and Joe's in the league with Josh Allen. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's just it's interesting to look at Josh you know.

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Speaker 1: There we're in the kind of, hey, in the period

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Speaker 1: little down period here leading up to training camp, where

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Speaker 1: everybody's got a list of the top ten whatever it is,

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Speaker 1: and Josh Allen he always seems to fall in that

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Speaker 1: number three slot, and it's always kind of behind Aaron Rodgers,

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Speaker 1: behind Patrick Mahomes and then Josh Allen. The thing is is,

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's not that's not on Josh Allen because

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Speaker 1: I don't know, he can't be better, right, Let's face it,

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Speaker 1: there's a good chance we've seen the ceiling. And that's fine.

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Speaker 1: I mean he is, he was so good last year.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know about you that I

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Speaker 1: would sign up. I would sign up for that for

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Speaker 1: the next thirteen or fourteen years if I'm if I'm

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Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills, because that's just about Aaron Rodgers and

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes needing to retire in order for Josh to

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Speaker 1: become number one. But at the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: I mean, can he do anything more? I guess that's

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Speaker 1: the question. What else can he possibly do? Well? I'll

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Speaker 1: say this. You know, last year Josh Allen was fantastic

523
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Speaker 1: and has earned every single bit of of the praise

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Speaker 1: he's gotten. You know, I don't even know if he's

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Speaker 1: number three. In my opinion, it's Patrick Mahomes and then

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen. You know, I think at this point I'd

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Speaker 1: rather have him over Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady as legendaries.

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Speaker 1: Both those two guys are just for the athleticism the

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen brings. But you know, the passing numbers for

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen last year were not as good as the

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Speaker 1: year before. They were. They were good, they weren't great.

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Speaker 1: You know, his completion percentage was down as the yards

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Speaker 1: per attempt was down. You know, the interception percentage was

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Speaker 1: up a little bit. I mean still really really good.

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Speaker 1: But you know, you talk about room for improvement. I

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Speaker 1: think he can get back to that quarterback he was,

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Speaker 1: you know in twenty twenty when he was you know,

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Speaker 1: not just a really a good quarterback who's a really

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Speaker 1: great runner. He was great at both ends of the job.

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Speaker 1: In twenty twenty, the numbers were all there, you know,

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Speaker 1: so I think there's a little bit of room for improvement.

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Speaker 1: But you're one hundred percent right. I mean, if the

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Speaker 1: Bills get twenty twenty one Josh Allen for the next

544
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Speaker 1: twelve years, to me, that's twelve really reasonable chances of

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Speaker 1: winning a Super Bowl. And what franchise in the NFL

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Speaker 1: is not ecstatic about that? You know, I failed to

547
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Speaker 1: you know, you brought up super Bowl or bust. You know,

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Speaker 1: we're a little over a week from you know, the

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Speaker 1: journey toward that in the regular season. That's it, isn't it?

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Speaker 1: Like that's the that is the landmark this year after

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Speaker 1: the way last season ended. You know, let's just assume

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Speaker 1: everyone gets through the through the year healthy, because let's

553
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,360
Speaker 1: face it, that's the same with every team in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: That's the That's it, right, I Mean, that's that's gotta

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00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:11,440
Speaker 1: be whether that's at the end of the day you

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Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl. It was a successful season and

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Speaker 1: if they don't, it probably wasn't you know. Let me

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Speaker 1: let me ask you this gut field off the top.

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Speaker 1: Sure if they go to the super Bowl, play well

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Speaker 1: in loose, Yeah, yeah, that's fine. I think you still

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Speaker 1: feel good about that because you got to that game

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Speaker 1: and then now the other one. And I brought this

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Speaker 1: up last year. I kind of thought the expectations were

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Speaker 1: the same last year, and I said, you know, it's

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl or a buss unless they happened to you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe go to Kansas City and play

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00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,440
Speaker 1: this amazing game where it's really really close and they

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Speaker 1: somehow lose and overtime after Josh Allen puts up like

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Speaker 1: eight touchdowns they scored, which is what happened last year.

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Speaker 1: You know, So if that, let's say that happens again

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Speaker 1: this year, because well there are about eighty five quarterbacks

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00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:56,440
Speaker 1: in the AFC, who could you know play that game

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Speaker 1: against the Bills. Would you still feel okay about it?

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Speaker 1: Because last year I think we walked away from that

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Speaker 1: game thinking, yeah, it's disappointing, but they lost the coin toss.

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Speaker 1: Although other than that they played the Chief straight up.

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Speaker 1: That could easily happen again this year off the top

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Speaker 1: of your head, gut reaction you, Josh, do you think

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Speaker 1: it's a disappointing season if that happens again? If it

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Speaker 1: happens again, it's disappointing. If it happens twice, Yeah, I

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00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 1: just think you know, one time, Okay, twice, It's just

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Speaker 1: it's disappointing because then you really start looking into the

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Speaker 1: weeds of why does this happen again? Why did this

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Speaker 1: happen again? It's when it happens once, you go, Okay,

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00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 1: like you mentioned, coin flip is what it is, happens twice?

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Speaker 1: Can't it can't happen twice? But I am with you.

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Speaker 1: I know, I said super Bowl or it's a failure

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00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 1: of a season. You're right. They get to the super

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00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 1: Bowl and they play a good game. You know. And

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Speaker 1: let's face it, the AFC is loaded this season. So

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00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 1: getting out of the AFC is a huge accomplishment. You

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Speaker 1: look in this offseason the quarterbacks that shifted over to

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Speaker 1: the AFC. Who I mean it is It is incredible.

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Speaker 1: The talent at quarterback right now in this conference. I've

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00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 1: been saying it for weeks. The spill season. It's about

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00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 1: three games in January. You know, you win those three

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Speaker 1: playoff games, or you win that one game late in

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Speaker 1: the year to get you a buy and then win

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Speaker 1: your two playoff games. That's the whole season. You know,

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Speaker 1: this is I mean borrying some disaster. They're gonna make

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Speaker 1: the playoffs, They're probably gonna win the division, They're gonna

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00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 1: start at home, win those three games. You know, whatever

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Speaker 1: it takes. However, you got to find a way get

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Speaker 1: to the super Bowl, and that will be the measure

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00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 1: of whether this season is successful for the Bills. Good stuff.

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Speaker 1: We are going to take a quick break. Stick around

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Speaker 1: one Bills Live presented by collid to Health will be

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Speaker 1: right back. Welcome back to one Bills Live presented by

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Speaker 1: Kalidah Health. I'm Josh Rad alongside Thad Brown Beautiful Friday.

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Speaker 1: We are filling in for Steve Tasker and Chris Brown

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Speaker 1: who've taken some much deserved time off before they get

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Speaker 1: things geared up for training camp. Dad this weekend, it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be awesome outside. We are also getting geared up

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Speaker 1: for training camp. To start a training camp a week

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Speaker 1: from Sunday. Got any got any good plans? The Italian

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Speaker 1: Fest is going on here in Buffalo, So that's gonna

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Speaker 1: be the read Brewed. Will be hitting up some of

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Speaker 1: the vendors over there at the Italian Fest. You got

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Speaker 1: any good plans to enjoy the weather? So I live

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Speaker 1: in Webster. It's a suburb of Rochester, a little to

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Speaker 1: the northeast, and every year this week is the Webster

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Speaker 1: Fireman's Carnival. Nice, huge event, great food. Had some clams

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Speaker 1: last night, that's like the popular delicacy for this and

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Speaker 1: we're going back again tonight. I think my wife're not

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Speaker 1: gonna have the beer tent for a little while. That'll

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Speaker 1: be fun. And then eighteen Holes tomorrow and that to me,

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Speaker 1: that checks my boxes. You know, food outside, probably an

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Speaker 1: ice cream Sunday in there somewhere in eighteen holes. And

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Speaker 1: I'm good. I've done everything I need to do. Maybe

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Speaker 1: maybe the final round of the Open on Sunday, kick

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Speaker 1: backing and watch that right the All right, let's shift gears,

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Speaker 1: get back into some bills. Talk here as we make

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Speaker 1: our march kind of down the bill's roster and looking

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Speaker 1: at some of the some of the position battles. Slot

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Speaker 1: receiver that that's an interesting one. Heading into training camp,

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Speaker 1: of course, kind of kind of gets forgotten because that's

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Speaker 1: a position that Cole Beasley's locked down for the last

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00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 1: three years and just kind of went okay, Cole Beasley

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00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:44,479
Speaker 1: moving on right. But now there's definitely some there's some

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00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 1: moving pieces at that position going into training camp. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it'll be. This is the one position that I'm watching

642
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 1: the most. This is my favorite, you know, position battle.

643
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about, you know, a starting spot that's open.

644
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 1: And you know, first of all, as we talked about

645
00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 1: in the first segment, I'm not sure that Ken Dorsey

646
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 1: isn't gonna use his offense as you would traditionally. There

647
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 1: may not be we're just gonna go three four wide

648
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 1: and throw it at you all the time. We might

649
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 1: you know, use our running backs as receivers or receivers

650
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 1: as running backs, but would the slot guys. You know,

651
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 1: you look at the four main candidates. You start with

652
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 1: Jamison Crowder with the Bills brought over from the Jets,

653
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 1: and you know, people might think of him as well,

654
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 1: he's he's the older guy. He's not thirty yet. You know,

655
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 1: this is a guy that still can make a lot

656
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 1: of plays. To me, when when the Jets signed Crowder

657
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 1: and the Bills signed Cole Beasley three years ago. I

658
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,719
Speaker 1: thought Crowder was the better player. Now Crowder has had

659
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 1: injury issues, is not generally dependable in that way. But

660
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 1: on this offense, with Stefon Diggs and Josh Ellen throwing

661
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 1: the ball, I think Jameson Crowder can be a huge

662
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: weapon for the Bills. The thing about Crowder is that

663
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 1: he's pretty much just your slot receiver. He's he's the

664
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 1: Cole Beasley guy. He's the you know, quick find open spaces,

665
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 1: you know, get underneath, move the chains. That's what he does.

666
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 1: The rest of the guys who are in this battle

667
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 1: can do lots of different things. Isaamh McKenzie, Bills fans,

668
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 1: no one loved, you know, the multidimension, no weapon still

669
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 1: in the mix to be a return man, I think,

670
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 1: and you know, I think he showed with what he

671
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 1: did at the end of the year against the Patriots

672
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 1: that he might be able to be more of a

673
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 1: full time slot receiver. Khalil Secure the rookie. You know, again,

674
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 1: this is a guy that people talking about as a

675
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 1: poor man's Deebo Samuel. It tells you what kind of

676
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 1: skill set he has. He's a great return man. As

677
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 1: well too. I mean watch some of his punt returns

678
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,480
Speaker 1: at Boise State. This is a guy that, even though

679
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 1: he didn't have blazing speed, you know, knows how to

680
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 1: find open spaces, knows how to make plays. And then

681
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 1: out of nowhere, the Bills throw a flyer. I'm gonna

682
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 1: sign Tavon Austin. Remember him, he was the video game

683
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 1: master in college. This is the guy that was so

684
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 1: good in college that there's a video of Niheim Hines

685
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 1: when he sees Tavon Austin before game says, guys, that's

686
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 1: Tavon Austin. I go talk to him. This is after

687
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 1: Niheim Hines. He's like a legit, respectable you know, pass

688
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 1: catching running back in Tavon Austin's just hoping to keep

689
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 1: a job. Hines is the one that wants to go

690
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 1: talk to Tavon Austin. Well, Austin shows up in Buffalo

691
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 1: in May, in June, and really, if there is a

692
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 1: such thing ever the star of the mini camp, you know,

693
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 1: this is a guy that showed he still has it

694
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 1: as a route runner. There's quicks there, there's juice there,

695
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 1: and if he can somehow harness even eighty percent of

696
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,839
Speaker 1: what he did in college. You know what kind of

697
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 1: third or fourth or fifth weapon does that make for

698
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:23,360
Speaker 1: the Bills. So seeing which one of these guys emerges

699
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 1: as the number one or I think more likely, what

700
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 1: combination of these guys emerges the guys the Bills want

701
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 1: to go to in that slot and for you know,

702
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 1: the different things, the different skill sets they have, you know,

703
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 1: as again another interesting piece of this puzzle that isn't

704
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 1: very obvious right now and can go a bunch of

705
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,439
Speaker 1: different ways. So you know, when I get the training camp,

706
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:49,879
Speaker 1: kier lim Elim is probably eyeball number one. Number two

707
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,800
Speaker 1: is all these slot receivers, what they're doing, who's getting

708
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 1: playing time, and who is you know, starting to maybe

709
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,360
Speaker 1: separate themselves and the rest of these guys as we

710
00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 1: go along. Yeah, And talking to Tavon during mini camp

711
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:06,319
Speaker 1: and OTAs, he does not lack confidence, and he believes

712
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 1: that injuries have been his issues the last couple of years,

713
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 1: and he believes that he's healthy. And I will say

714
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 1: this the upside of being that veteran of that group

715
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 1: that you just mentioned. You know, I know Jameson Crowd

716
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 1: is also a veteran. But I'll tell you what you

717
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 1: kind of know how to get through training camp. You

718
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,800
Speaker 1: know what it takes to earn that spot on the roster.

719
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 1: So it's going to be You're right, that's gonna be

720
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 1: really interesting moving up front. Now the guys that kind

721
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 1: of make it go, the five offensive linemen, a couple

722
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 1: of new faces along the offensive line, including Aaron Cromer.

723
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:46,359
Speaker 1: He's back, obviously the Bill's offensive line coach. I don't

724
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 1: know that I get this, just this weird feeling that

725
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,360
Speaker 1: this I'm not saying they're gonna run the ball forty

726
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 1: times a game, but I have just a little feeling

727
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 1: that they're going to be a little more run focused

728
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 1: this season. Once again, I'm not saying that Josh Allen's

729
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 1: gonna throw the ball fifteen times, but I do think

730
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:10,839
Speaker 1: they're gonna make it a point of emphasis and don't

731
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 1: forget during the season. Sean McDermott said, you learn to

732
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,879
Speaker 1: run the ball and you establish a run game when

733
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 1: training camp, and guess what, I have a feeling we're

734
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 1: going to see a lot of that at Fisher. It's

735
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 1: funny when you said I have a feeling, I knew

736
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 1: exactly what you're feeling was. I didn't even have to

737
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 1: wait for what the next set of words was. I

738
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,919
Speaker 1: knew it was the thought that this offense, or maybe

739
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 1: just the offensive line in particular, is a priority to

740
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 1: get better at running the ball. I think Roger Staffold

741
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 1: is reason number one for that. This is the guy

742
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 1: that comes in with the reputation of being a grinder,

743
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 1: being a run lane opener, and a guy who really

744
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 1: has kind of struggled as a pass blocker the last

745
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 1: couple of years to where, you know, when the Builds

746
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 1: were a pass happy past exceptionally first team, you know,

747
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 1: you'd wonder how much of a fit a guy like

748
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 1: Roger Staffold would have. But if the Builds offense goes

749
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 1: the way as you're thinking, and I'm thinking it too again,

750
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:06,240
Speaker 1: not look, we're not talking about more runs than passes.

751
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:09,720
Speaker 1: It's just more runs than last year or better effectiveness

752
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 1: at the run game than last year. You know, I

753
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 1: think Roger Staffeld and Aaron Cromer are two guys for

754
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 1: that job too. And I think even you know, Ryan Bates,

755
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:19,320
Speaker 1: you know to me as a guy that probably is

756
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 1: a little bit better as a run blocker, so you know,

757
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,880
Speaker 1: and he's gonna get an opportunity not just an opportunity,

758
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 1: but probably the expectation he will be the regular starter

759
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,799
Speaker 1: at the other guard spot. It really changes how this

760
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 1: line has been built. You know, the last few years,

761
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,360
Speaker 1: it's been a group that is very good at protecting

762
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 1: the past, or at least that's what they're much better at,

763
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 1: and as a run blocking unit has been you know,

764
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 1: average at best. So I think there's certainly be more

765
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 1: of an effort. And you go back to that the

766
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 1: press conference after the win game, the loss of the Patriots,

767
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:50,919
Speaker 1: the fourteen to ten game, where you know, the Bill

768
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,799
Speaker 1: has just got you know, outplayed at the line of

769
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 1: scrimmage on the ground, and how frustrated Sean McDermott was

770
00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 1: after that. You almost knew there was no way he

771
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 1: is gonna let that happened again, even if it doesn't

772
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 1: mean going a long way towards running the ball more.

773
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:07,799
Speaker 1: They just got to be better at it, and they've

774
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 1: got some pieces to make it happen. Yeah, I absolutely agree.

775
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 1: Let's close the door on the Bills for a little

776
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 1: bit and take a look around the league. Some interesting

777
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 1: storylines over the past week, including one that involves a

778
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 1: team within the division that the Patriot Way continues to

779
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 1: just unravel before our eyes. The Patriots trade former first

780
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 1: round pick and kill Harry to the Bears for a

781
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four seventh round pick that the last time

782
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 1: I checked, that's what you call buying high and selling

783
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 1: loath that. Look, Bill Belichick is really good at a

784
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 1: lot of things. Drafting in general is not one of them.

785
00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 1: Drafting receivers in particular, exception, not in one of them.

786
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:02,720
Speaker 1: I mean, this is the guy that took Hartley Dikes

787
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 1: back in the day, you know, I mean it was

788
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 1: a first round pick that went nowhere. This is just

789
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 1: not something the Patriots and Belichick and particular have been

790
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:13,799
Speaker 1: very good at. And Harry is the shining example of

791
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 1: you know, if you get that wrong, what happens next. Look,

792
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 1: this is a guy that he's got the physical tools.

793
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:21,720
Speaker 1: He's never even come close to realizing it in the NFL.

794
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 1: I mean, to be honest, you know, if you're Harry,

795
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 1: I'd almost rather be cut. You know, if my choices

796
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 1: are get traded for a ham sandwich or get cut,

797
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:32,839
Speaker 1: I'd rather have cut on my resume then the ham

798
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 1: sandwich trade, which is what happened in this particular case.

799
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 1: But from the Patriots point of view. They feel like

800
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 1: they can go with, you know, the group of veterans Aguilar,

801
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 1: DeVante Parker. They basically got like five guys that you

802
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:46,439
Speaker 1: had in your fantasy team that never wanted to play,

803
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:48,839
Speaker 1: and that's gonna be the receiving group this year. They're

804
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 1: gonna run the ball heavy. They're gonna try and use

805
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,280
Speaker 1: their tight ends Henry and John and Smith a lot

806
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 1: and hope that you know, they can win games twenty

807
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 1: to seventeen with Mac Jones not making a lot of

808
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 1: mistakes and you know, just being competent, don't be spectacular,

809
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 1: just don't screw things up. And in that situation, you know,

810
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,919
Speaker 1: Harry was the screw things up guy. They probably feel

811
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 1: like that. The group they have now they're veterans and

812
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 1: know what they're doing. This is not a screw things

813
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,439
Speaker 1: up group, even if they're also not a score thirty

814
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 1: points a week group either. Yeah, retired head coach. Some

815
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:20,800
Speaker 1: reports about Sean Payton possibly returning to the Sideline's next season.

816
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 1: Some of the teams that he's linked to the Dolphins,

817
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, and the Chargers. This is all about which

818
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,359
Speaker 1: team has the best quarterback, right that, at the end

819
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 1: of the day, right, So go ahead and cross the

820
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 1: Dolphins off the list. So it's basically if if that's

821
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 1: the if those are the three teams, it's basically dak

822
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:45,879
Speaker 1: or Justin Herbert right. I mean that's basically Justin Herbert right.

823
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 1: You gotta go, you gotta go Chargers job right, plus

824
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 1: the idea, you know, the idea of the thing about

825
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 1: the Chargers. Sorry, man, they think about the Chargers with

826
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 1: Brandon Staley, you know, in his second year, and they

827
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:58,280
Speaker 1: were they were good last year. Don't make the playoffs,

828
00:40:58,280 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: so they were a good team last year. If they

829
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,320
Speaker 1: take a step forward, I don't know if the Chargers

830
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 1: would want to go away from that. The Cowboys I

831
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 1: can totally see. I mean, you want me to put

832
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:08,439
Speaker 1: some money on where Sean Payton is gonna be next year,

833
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 1: give me Dallas plus whatever points I'm getting. The Bengals.

834
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 1: Did you check out they're they're unveiling of the the

835
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 1: white tiger helmet. Did you see it? Is that out?

836
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 1: I heard some people talking about. I didn't say, oh man,

837
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 1: it's like this white Bengal tiger looking thing. It is phenomenal.

838
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 1: I mean, look, I know there's a there's a percentage

839
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,359
Speaker 1: of people who don't like it at all. I am

840
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:40,319
Speaker 1: not in that percentage. I absolutely think it's sensational. When

841
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 1: you get a chance, you've got to check that one out.

842
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:44,399
Speaker 1: It's gonna be one looking at it right now. It's

843
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,800
Speaker 1: gonna be one of the best alternate uniforms we see

844
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 1: all season. I just I know some of the people

845
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 1: who don't like it say it's looks like the White

846
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 1: Power Ranger, which I disagree. The hey one last good?

847
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 1: Did did Josh the Bengal is actually unvalid? Or is

848
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:03,760
Speaker 1: it just people? I know it's coming out and people

849
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 1: just put pictures up. That's an easy thing to photoshop.

850
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 1: They're set to unveil the new white Tiger helmet, because

851
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 1: I saw that the Texans actually unveiled their red helmet,

852
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:16,959
Speaker 1: which I liked that you like that one? I love

853
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 1: that helmet. Yeah, yeah, the battle Red. I think that's

854
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:21,720
Speaker 1: it's definitely gonna be the best part of their season

855
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 1: for sure. One one last one before Jake kicks us

856
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 1: off the air. Here the great producer in my ear

857
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 1: screaming Tom Brady on eventual retirement. Quote, I've realized I

858
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 1: don't have five years left end quote? Does that mean

859
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 1: he has six. There's no I'm done calling Tom Brady

860
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 1: done because there's just no reason to you never. When

861
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 1: he finally leaves and his gone, when he puts the

862
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,840
Speaker 1: gold jacket on, That's when I'll believe he's done. Yeah,

863
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,240
Speaker 1: I'm with you. All Right, We're gonna take a quick break.

864
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,319
Speaker 1: We'll be right back on One Bill's Live, presented by

865
00:42:54,440 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 1: Kalidah Health. Welcome back to One Bills Live. I'm Josh Reed,

866
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 1: sitting in for Steve Tasker and Chris Brown. As we

867
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 1: gear up for this year's training camp. We introduce you

868
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 1: some of the players buying and fighting for roster spots.

869
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 1: Bills reporter Maddie Glab caught up with tight End Quintin

870
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:31,800
Speaker 1: Morris in the latest episode of Five Questions. Here's Maddie,

871
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:35,359
Speaker 1: Maddie Glab here with the tight end, Clinton Morris. It's

872
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 1: time for five Questions with all right, Quinton, I gotta

873
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 1: ask you. I feel like a lot of people on

874
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,240
Speaker 1: the roster, a lot of a lot of Bills fans

875
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:52,320
Speaker 1: may not know who you truly are, So who is Morris?

876
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 1: If you ask the guys on the team, they'll say Ques.

877
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 1: Mostly everybody will probably talk about my smile first I

878
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:03,959
Speaker 1: just walk around smiling, yelled at, smiling, whatever the case,

879
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:07,319
Speaker 1: I'm always smiles with He's a fun loving guy and

880
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 1: most of the time when you catch me, I'll be smiling.

881
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:12,800
Speaker 1: Being a part of the tight Ends group, What is

882
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 1: it like to work with the guys on the roster

883
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 1: every single day? Oh? That's great. It's like, I mean,

884
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 1: we got new Vet in the room, OJ and working

885
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 1: with Sweeney, Reggie and Dawson for going on it year

886
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 1: or two now, So it's been great and we'd like

887
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,840
Speaker 1: to call it Tells the tightest of Ends. So, I

888
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 1: mean we're real close. We hang out, you know, outside

889
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:37,839
Speaker 1: of football, and I mean we're I think the team

890
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 1: in general, we just have like a close bond, but

891
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 1: definitely in our room. We're down the street is you're

892
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 1: super passionate about these Special Olympics, So could you explain

893
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 1: how you got into that and kind of what your

894
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 1: involvement is every year? Yeah? So U my brother special needs.

895
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 1: So ever since I'm a kid, Ever since I was

896
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:58,879
Speaker 1: a kid, we've been involved a lot. My family has

897
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 1: been involved with Special Olympics and that's just something we've

898
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:04,479
Speaker 1: been doing, like again since I was small, and I've

899
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 1: you know, got to work with those kids in there.

900
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 1: I mean, they're just the best kids. They're so grateful

901
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 1: and they're always smiling, laughing, and you know, you could

902
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 1: joke with them and they're just so much fun and so, UM,

903
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 1: I was talking to Brennan hr and I was just like,

904
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 1: you know, anything special Olympics, like, give me a taste,

905
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:24,800
Speaker 1: shoot me a call. I'm there, and I just you know,

906
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:26,799
Speaker 1: want to be there, and I'm just happy to go

907
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:28,400
Speaker 1: out there and you know, put a smile on their

908
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 1: face because they put a smile on mine. I got

909
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 1: a shout out. My brother here, right, so he just

910
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 1: finished up track. He's a potaclone athlete, so he does. Um.

911
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:45,319
Speaker 1: So it was the five events, UM, four hundred, one hundred, uh,

912
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:50,800
Speaker 1: shot put, long jump, and high jump and yeah, Texas

913
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 1: State championship. So first place. Oh my gosh, so cool.

914
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 1: We're in the off season. You've got some free time

915
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 1: to yourself finally, as we're getting ready for the next season.

916
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:06,959
Speaker 1: You guys deserve a break, You deserve the time off.

917
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 1: So what are some of your hobbies in the off season. UM,

918
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,880
Speaker 1: big hobbies, like a big gamer, like you know, Madden

919
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 1: and stuff, and you know, the call of duty all that. Um.

920
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:21,320
Speaker 1: I like the bowl. UM like basketball, but you know

921
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:25,399
Speaker 1: I gotta chill out on the basketball. Yeah, we don't

922
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 1: need any of that. Um. And then I've been trying

923
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 1: to work on fishing. But in my family have not

924
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 1: had good luck when it comes to fishing. So working

925
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 1: on that, hopefully I can get out there with Gabe

926
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 1: and you know he'll teach me something. Gabe J Kumeroll,

927
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,319
Speaker 1: there's a group that fishes out here. Um. All right,

928
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:46,399
Speaker 1: goals for you in training camp this upcoming season? What

929
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 1: should we expect out of Quintin Morris? Um, just a

930
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 1: guy that's gonna go out there and you know, make plays,

931
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 1: you know, for the team, and you know, just be

932
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:56,880
Speaker 1: able to be that piece that you know you can

933
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 1: plug in anywhere and just trust that he's going to

934
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 1: do his job. So it's really what I want to

935
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:03,720
Speaker 1: work on and know so I could be an asset

936
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 1: for the team. All right, Quinn Morris. Five questions with

937
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 1: the guy who's all smiles. Good stuff as always from

938
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 1: Maddie Glab Right there, we're gonna take a quick break.

939
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 1: Coming up on One Bills Live, We're gonna catch up

940
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:23,360
Speaker 1: with Sports Illustrated's Alex Pruett. He did an incredible article

941
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 1: on the Diggs brothers. Stick around, We'll be right back

942
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 1: at a Steve taster who has been all over her fields.

943
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:50,319
Speaker 1: Kind of unique. He was kind of a dual role

944
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:56,319
Speaker 1: player for you. Ste A literally Steve a blimp. We're

945
00:47:56,360 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 1: not even in the scredit Fear of Normalcy. Welcome to

946
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 1: One Bill's Live, presented by Khalid to Health. I'm Josh

947
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 1: read alongside Bad Brown. Joining us is Alex Pruitt from

948
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 1: Sports Illustrated. He did an absolutely phenomenal article on the

949
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 1: Diggs brothers. I'm talking this thing was a lot of

950
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 1: fun to read down through. Alex, thanks for taking a

951
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:30,799
Speaker 1: little bit of time to join us today. First off,

952
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 1: you know, you know, as a reporter, you try to

953
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:37,359
Speaker 1: go into stories you know prepared, you know, with the

954
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 1: information that you need to have, but you try to

955
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:41,320
Speaker 1: go in with a little bit of a blank slate.

956
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 1: Let the story kind of come to you. What um,

957
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 1: thinking that that was the case? How different, if at all,

958
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:51,319
Speaker 1: did this story turn out compared to maybe how you

959
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 1: went into it thinking it was pretty I think what

960
00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 1: I expected, which is to say, I guess I got

961
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 1: a lot of things that I didn't expect. Um. You know,

962
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 1: I I covered Stefan during a freshman and sophomore year

963
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:08,959
Speaker 1: at the University of Maryland when I was a beat

964
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:12,840
Speaker 1: writer in the area. So my relationship with the family

965
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 1: with him goes back a while to the point that

966
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 1: you know, I'd done a feature story in him Adam

967
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:20,880
Speaker 1: Adam Feeling when they were both in Minnesota together a

968
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:22,799
Speaker 1: couple of years back, and um, you know I had

969
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:25,360
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff about like him and his family,

970
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 1: in his background and his brother and his relationship with

971
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 1: him that um, you know, it wasn't quite the right

972
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 1: place at the time to put all that stuff in there. Um,

973
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:37,279
Speaker 1: but again, just like knowing them as guys, knowing the family, um,

974
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 1: knowing their mom, and you can can definitely kind of

975
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 1: see where their outspokenness comes from a little bit in

976
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:46,399
Speaker 1: the story too with Stephanie, and you know, we kind

977
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 1: of expected, you know, we go in with this theme

978
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 1: that you know, we had this issue for of strength

979
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 1: and how can we define strength in a multilayered way,

980
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:59,760
Speaker 1: So it's not just um, big muscles or big stats

981
00:49:59,880 --> 00:50:02,440
Speaker 1: or whatever, but um, you know, there's there's layers to it.

982
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:05,319
Speaker 1: And when we unpacked that with these brothers, we find

983
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 1: themes of you know, love and tenderness and family and um,

984
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:11,360
Speaker 1: you know the power of blood and all that stuff

985
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:13,279
Speaker 1: that would get into in the piece. Um. So he

986
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:15,759
Speaker 1: kind of knew that that was the framework, I guess, um.

987
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:18,360
Speaker 1: And then we also kind of knew that most likely

988
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 1: when once you talked to these guys, Um, just you know,

989
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:23,360
Speaker 1: we say it kind of off the jump in the story,

990
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:26,720
Speaker 1: you know, just let their report take over, um, because

991
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 1: there is just so much that uh, you know, I

992
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 1: can only say half as well as they probably say

993
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:37,320
Speaker 1: it themselves. Alex, You, like you said, you talked and

994
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:41,360
Speaker 1: coverage Stefan m his first two years in Maryland. What's

995
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 1: the difference in terms of Stefan the man, you know,

996
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 1: going from his time back when he's a freshman sophomore,

997
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 1: eighteen ninety year old in college to where he is now.

998
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 1: And I know you don't cover the bills on a

999
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:53,760
Speaker 1: regular basis source Stefan, but you know, at least watching

1000
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 1: from afar and then maybe you know a little more

1001
00:50:56,080 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 1: particularly how is the relationship between he and Traybon change

1002
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 1: going back from you know, when he was a freshman

1003
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 1: to where he is now as a you know a

1004
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:06,279
Speaker 1: twenty eight year old that in the NFL. Yeah, it's

1005
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 1: it's just a lot more I guess, the missions a

1006
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 1: lot more refined, and not just the goals, but the

1007
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:19,440
Speaker 1: plan of how to get there. I mean, boy, he

1008
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:22,800
Speaker 1: went through a lot at Maryland, from how much hype

1009
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 1: trailed his pretty unprecedented commitment as a local five star

1010
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:32,440
Speaker 1: there um, to the carouselic quarterbacks five of them that

1011
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 1: came in as freshman year, to the injuries he suffered

1012
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:37,319
Speaker 1: later on out of the noise that was kind of

1013
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:39,279
Speaker 1: hounding him when he was coming out that I think

1014
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:41,480
Speaker 1: led to him falling all the way to the fifth round. So,

1015
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 1: and you know, I think his relationship with Trayvon is

1016
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 1: probably a long parallel tracks there. You know, that was

1017
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 1: a time when Stephan's a freshman at Maryland, Trayvon's just

1018
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:56,880
Speaker 1: a freshman in high school. And you know obviously that

1019
00:51:56,920 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 1: their five year age gap has set this up to

1020
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 1: be a theme where Stefan goes through something fully before

1021
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:09,919
Speaker 1: Trayvon can be that high school college. You know, your

1022
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 1: first contract in the NFL, your second contract. Um. So

1023
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:19,320
Speaker 1: you know, as Stefan has kind of sharpened his ire

1024
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 1: and I guess um you know, as as a product

1025
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 1: of Trayvon being there, and I think as important Stefan

1026
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 1: being open and willing to share, being being willing to

1027
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 1: let his brother in and say, you know, here, I'm

1028
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 1: gonna give you the whole bag. You know, do with

1029
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:36,839
Speaker 1: it what you will, but like I'm gonna give you,

1030
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 1: um everything that I have and then more every step

1031
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 1: of the way. UM. I think that's that's allowed their

1032
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:47,839
Speaker 1: relationship evolved from, you know, when they lost their dad

1033
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 1: at such a young age, and Stefan at to you know,

1034
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 1: in the words of so many family members, to him

1035
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 1: be the man of the house and um. You know,

1036
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:56,839
Speaker 1: I think early on, as we get into the piece,

1037
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:59,879
Speaker 1: he tried to take um kind of that that tough

1038
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:03,279
Speaker 1: love that was given to them at at a young

1039
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:07,320
Speaker 1: age from their parents, Stephanie and Aaron. UM. But over time,

1040
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:09,399
Speaker 1: as you know, and Stephanie admits this too, I think

1041
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:11,359
Speaker 1: one of the most striking things she said was didn't

1042
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:13,880
Speaker 1: even make the peace, but she said that Stefan taught

1043
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:17,279
Speaker 1: the whole family how to love UM. And it's that

1044
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:21,320
Speaker 1: kind of tenderness and openness and willingness to like share,

1045
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:25,399
Speaker 1: you know, the ups and downs of your profession, your

1046
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 1: your life with your brother, um, something very close to

1047
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 1: you like that's that was probably the most the powerful,

1048
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:35,440
Speaker 1: most powerful thing for me in it. And I think

1049
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 1: what what the brothers themselves say have kind of defined

1050
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:40,800
Speaker 1: how their journey has evolved since as you're saying, when

1051
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 1: stephan I was just a freshman in college. Wow, that

1052
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:47,239
Speaker 1: that's that's really powerful. You know what the mothers said

1053
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 1: there about teaching the family how to love. And I

1054
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:51,839
Speaker 1: think in getting to know stuff on the last couple

1055
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:54,320
Speaker 1: of years, I believe that would agree. There's a side

1056
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 1: to him that I didn't know we were the bills

1057
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 1: were getting when he came over from Soda, because there

1058
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 1: was a different picture that was maybe painted to him,

1059
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:06,239
Speaker 1: at least publicly. I'm not sure about the locker room.

1060
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 1: But he has definitely been a treat to deal with.

1061
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:10,799
Speaker 1: When we do get a chance to speak with him,

1062
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 1: he's been very candid and open and fun loving. So's

1063
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:17,920
Speaker 1: that's great, Dad, and night. Dad. We've been at this

1064
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 1: probably each about, you know, a couple of decades, two

1065
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 1: decades or so. And I could tell you this, Alex,

1066
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:26,320
Speaker 1: I don't I've never started a story like this that

1067
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 1: I don't know if you have, but it doesn't happen often.

1068
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 1: The very first line is Stephan Diggs is cruising behind

1069
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 1: the wheel of his Robin egg blue Lamborghini. I have

1070
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 1: never started a story with that line. I don't know

1071
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:43,879
Speaker 1: that I ever will. But it's funny because that's kind

1072
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:48,319
Speaker 1: of the side that the NFL wide receiver. You know, sure,

1073
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:51,360
Speaker 1: he teaches his family how to love, but man, the

1074
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 1: Diggs brothers Lamborghini. That sounds right. Confidence, that sounds right.

1075
00:54:56,520 --> 00:55:00,839
Speaker 1: These two do not lack confidence all and in order

1076
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:04,360
Speaker 1: to play at the high level the way they do, Alex,

1077
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:07,800
Speaker 1: I mean, what kind of feeling did you get from them?

1078
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:12,280
Speaker 1: Because in reading your article, the confidence just it jumps

1079
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:17,399
Speaker 1: through the pages. It was fun trying to fact check

1080
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:22,960
Speaker 1: with Stefan what color it is Lamborghini? Years that was

1081
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 1: That was a fun part of a follow up call.

1082
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:28,879
Speaker 1: He I think I settled on Robin's egg blue because

1083
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:30,440
Speaker 1: that was the closest. But I don't even I don't

1084
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 1: know if I really know what Robin's egg blue is.

1085
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 1: It's a Lamborghini, is all I know. I was just

1086
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 1: blown away. What um, yeah, yeah, what what what feeling

1087
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 1: did you get? Kind of do you wait, hey, First

1088
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:47,359
Speaker 1: of all, did you ride in the Lamborghini? I did.

1089
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 1: It's a very nice car. I bet it is. I

1090
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 1: mean I made a lot of jokes about exhibit and

1091
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:55,320
Speaker 1: like pimp my ride era of TV's and the it

1092
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:57,760
Speaker 1: was like, you know, TV's in the head head rest,

1093
00:55:57,800 --> 00:55:59,439
Speaker 1: so if you're sitting in the backseat, you can watch

1094
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:02,880
Speaker 1: a TV ag. Yeah that's um, that's next that is

1095
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 1: next level. I don't want to I don't want to

1096
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 1: give away all the juice to this article, but there's

1097
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 1: one story that I thought was really amazing Alex and

1098
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 1: that's the barbecue story from the backyard, and then it

1099
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:20,719
Speaker 1: kind of carries it over into I believe it was

1100
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:23,319
Speaker 1: a wake or a funeral. Can you can you tell?

1101
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:25,400
Speaker 1: Can you tell that story? Like I said, I want

1102
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 1: to give too many of the secrets away of the

1103
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 1: story because people got to check it out on SI

1104
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:34,880
Speaker 1: dot com. But that story is phenomenal. I thought you

1105
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:37,960
Speaker 1: were gonna say when the kid runs around, that's also

1106
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:39,759
Speaker 1: a good one. I had to pick between one of

1107
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 1: those traffic Yeah, it's Stefan gives them a couple hundred

1108
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 1: dollar bills out the window. Is Lambeau. Um, yeah, you

1109
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 1: know there that was one thing that was really fascinating

1110
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:54,080
Speaker 1: to me about their story and I think makes it

1111
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 1: unique is um, you know, there's no shortage of really

1112
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:04,279
Speaker 1: good brothers out there in sports, in football, but you know,

1113
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:10,400
Speaker 1: we've never really seen this combination before of brothers who

1114
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 1: can go up against each other and hone their craft

1115
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 1: against each other one on one like that receiver verse cornerback,

1116
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:22,480
Speaker 1: and it's a dynamic that's you know, they've they've flipped

1117
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 1: kind of like in the Pro Bowl Stefanill cover Trayvon.

1118
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 1: It's not just they'm running drills with Stephan running routes

1119
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 1: against Trayvon. But this is again a dynamic that's gone

1120
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:37,920
Speaker 1: back through their entire life to like you said, where

1121
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 1: family barbecues have gotten shut down essentially because somebody makes

1122
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 1: the mistake of breaking out of football. And you know,

1123
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:49,120
Speaker 1: sometimes it's their mom playing quarterbacks. Sometimes it's one of

1124
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:54,439
Speaker 1: their brothers, Marshawn or Aaron Junior playing quarterback. But the

1125
00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 1: essence of it is the same, which is that nobody

1126
00:57:57,400 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 1: really gets anything else done because they're just watching the

1127
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:02,520
Speaker 1: brothers go up against each other and trash talk each other,

1128
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 1: and it usually involves like Trayvon getting one on Stefan,

1129
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 1: and then Stefan getting mad enough that he just refuses

1130
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 1: to stop until they do it, you know, dozens and

1131
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:15,800
Speaker 1: dozens of time, and the sun sets and their mom

1132
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 1: has to step in and say enough, Alex. You know,

1133
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 1: he talked about how Stefan had to be the man

1134
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 1: of the house when their father passed away, when when

1135
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 1: Stefan was fourteen years old, and how he did a

1136
00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:27,080
Speaker 1: great job with that, how he was the example. He

1137
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:29,480
Speaker 1: was the one that kind of you know, pulled Trayvon

1138
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 1: along to training when when the younger brother didn't want

1139
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 1: to go. How he's been the example for a younger

1140
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:36,480
Speaker 1: brother and has done you know, basically has been the

1141
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:38,720
Speaker 1: older brother about as good as you can be. And

1142
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 1: then he goes to Minnesota and you know, he kind

1143
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:42,720
Speaker 1: of alluded to it for a moment, you know, things

1144
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 1: kind of go south. Stefan talks about it being a

1145
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 1: dark place. You know in the story, you say, you know,

1146
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 1: essentially the offense went away from throwing the ball and

1147
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:53,280
Speaker 1: that was a problem. Are you surprised, after all you've

1148
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 1: known about Stefan and the way he's accurate in the family,

1149
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:58,400
Speaker 1: that lack of targets can be enough to make things

1150
00:58:58,480 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 1: kind of go the wrong way for him, and then

1151
00:58:59,880 --> 00:59:05,040
Speaker 1: a m the lack of targets is like most of

1152
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:07,480
Speaker 1: your job kind of right, like well, if that's you know,

1153
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:10,560
Speaker 1: if that's how you define like if for media, equivalent

1154
00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:12,440
Speaker 1: would be like lack of reps, I guess, and like

1155
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 1: writing stories and if um, you know, outside factors or whatever,

1156
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:19,080
Speaker 1: like if talking about me, if that got pulled away,

1157
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:21,760
Speaker 1: I could definitely see how that would affect someone. Um,

1158
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 1: And yeah, lead lead to the conclusion, as he put

1159
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:27,040
Speaker 1: in the story, that he just needed to get out

1160
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:28,960
Speaker 1: of our place and he needed to make a change

1161
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 1: for himself, and um, you know, the goal and bringing

1162
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:33,920
Speaker 1: that up again kind of as it as it had

1163
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:36,360
Speaker 1: to be with the whole story, which is, you know,

1164
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 1: largely why there's not a lot about Stefan and Buffalo

1165
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 1: or Trayvon and Dallas specifically, is it all kind of

1166
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:46,320
Speaker 1: had to tie back to stuff involving them together. Um.

1167
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:48,480
Speaker 1: So my main takeaway from that was again like the

1168
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:51,280
Speaker 1: lesson kind of the lesson of um you know what

1169
00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:54,240
Speaker 1: I would view as like independent of like worker, independence

1170
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 1: of um. You know, I'm going to take this matter

1171
00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 1: as in my own hands and you know, I feel

1172
00:59:58,040 --> 01:00:00,680
Speaker 1: like this is not a tenable situation from himself or

1173
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:03,960
Speaker 1: his mental health and or his profession. And um, you know,

1174
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:05,080
Speaker 1: I think as he put it, you know, you have

1175
01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:07,360
Speaker 1: to be the CEO of your own life. So, um,

1176
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 1: that was kind of what I was reading into that was, Um,

1177
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:14,720
Speaker 1: you know, what did he want Trayvon to learn? And

1178
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:19,720
Speaker 1: what did Trayvon learn um from? You know, something that

1179
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:23,120
Speaker 1: is going to happen in life in pro sports? Right

1180
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:25,800
Speaker 1: like you're you're it's not always gonna go the way

1181
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:28,480
Speaker 1: you want. You're always going to get the rest you want. Um.

1182
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:31,080
Speaker 1: So that was what it was most instructive to me,

1183
01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:34,680
Speaker 1: was kind of both how he handled it and then

1184
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:38,120
Speaker 1: how he distilled it into what he said was the

1185
01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 1: really the one thing that he told Trayvon about it.

1186
01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:45,919
Speaker 1: Sports Illustrated Alex Pruitt joining us here on One Bill's Live,

1187
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:50,480
Speaker 1: did a really, really fun, good article on the Digs Brothers. Um,

1188
01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:53,120
Speaker 1: be sure to check it out. Um, you can get

1189
01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:56,440
Speaker 1: a feeling that these two, I think they've toyed around

1190
01:00:56,440 --> 01:00:58,320
Speaker 1: with the idea and even kind of throwing it out there.

1191
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:00,840
Speaker 1: You get an idea that maybe at some point we'll

1192
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:02,920
Speaker 1: see these two on the same team in the NFL.

1193
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:04,919
Speaker 1: Is that it's something that maybe they'd want to do.

1194
01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:09,920
Speaker 1: It's something that by their own admission, they've both talked

1195
01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:13,080
Speaker 1: about a lot in the past. And this is now

1196
01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:17,160
Speaker 1: where the opinions kind of veer off course because Stefan

1197
01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:20,280
Speaker 1: when I asked him, and this was like following up,

1198
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:22,240
Speaker 1: so I didn't have them together as as I was

1199
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:23,880
Speaker 1: asking this, which I kind of wish I would have.

1200
01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:28,480
Speaker 1: But Stefan said it was something that they used to

1201
01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:30,760
Speaker 1: think about a lot, but now that door is closed

1202
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:33,760
Speaker 1: after he signed with Buffalo, and he said because I

1203
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:36,920
Speaker 1: think in particular they grew up Cowboys fans, he doesn't

1204
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:39,520
Speaker 1: think Treyvon is going to go anywhere anytime soon from Dallas.

1205
01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:44,760
Speaker 1: Trayvon's response when I relayed this was, I don't know

1206
01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:49,080
Speaker 1: anything could happen, right, So I think it's it's probably

1207
01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:51,800
Speaker 1: in the backs of their minds. You know, we're going

1208
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:54,040
Speaker 1: to see them face off against each other next year,

1209
01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:58,160
Speaker 1: which is I think the next big milestone, not just

1210
01:01:58,200 --> 01:01:59,920
Speaker 1: because you know the again, like we were saying that

1211
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:03,120
Speaker 1: the NFL football fans, I've never seen like something like this,

1212
01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:06,600
Speaker 1: but because they've they've never ever again by Virtue of

1213
01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:08,840
Speaker 1: their age gap ever played on the same team or

1214
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:11,680
Speaker 1: faced off against each other in a game, is Alex,

1215
01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:14,240
Speaker 1: Is there any part of them that might feel like

1216
01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:17,520
Speaker 1: because we've grown up and been so successful, kind of

1217
01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:20,520
Speaker 1: being separated, you know, not not separate, that like they

1218
01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:23,000
Speaker 1: don't get along, but they've never been together on the

1219
01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:27,000
Speaker 1: same team. That why try and get together on a

1220
01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:29,720
Speaker 1: team Because you know, the boat's been floating nicely and

1221
01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:32,320
Speaker 1: chugging right along. Why rock that boat, you know, by

1222
01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:37,800
Speaker 1: doing something different. Yeah, their sister Porsche another very influential

1223
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:40,800
Speaker 1: FI or older sister Porsche UM, other influential figure in

1224
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:44,040
Speaker 1: their life. Why with their mom Stephanie Um, especially if

1225
01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:47,080
Speaker 1: their their dad passed. She you know, her worry was

1226
01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:51,760
Speaker 1: that it would like lapse back into old kind of um,

1227
01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:54,880
Speaker 1: that tough love pattern that you know. She she was

1228
01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:58,640
Speaker 1: worried that like Stefan would um you know almost mother

1229
01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:03,240
Speaker 1: hen helicopter parent, Treyvon if they were on the same

1230
01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:05,320
Speaker 1: team together and like push them, push them too hard,

1231
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:07,720
Speaker 1: kind of like what it was like when they were kids. Um.

1232
01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:10,800
Speaker 1: You know, I passed that along to Stefan um in

1233
01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:12,640
Speaker 1: his response was like, no, I don't think so. I

1234
01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:14,320
Speaker 1: think I'm you know, more more mature than I think

1235
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:17,400
Speaker 1: we've kind of evolved past that, um, which is you

1236
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:20,000
Speaker 1: know that's I could definitely see that as well. Um,

1237
01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:23,120
Speaker 1: you know their relationship is is past that point where um,

1238
01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:26,560
Speaker 1: you know treyvon i virtue of his historic season. I

1239
01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:30,760
Speaker 1: think a large part has has demonstrated to Stefan that, um,

1240
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:32,320
Speaker 1: you know, he's he has his own man, he has

1241
01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:36,120
Speaker 1: his own career, he's doing his own things, and UM yeah,

1242
01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:38,720
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if if Stefoni want that either just

1243
01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:41,880
Speaker 1: to uh yeah, but maybe at the end of the career,

1244
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:47,120
Speaker 1: it's certainly would be something neat to see, um, something historic. Yeah,

1245
01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:49,440
Speaker 1: we talked a little bit about them lining up across

1246
01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:53,280
Speaker 1: from each other. What, um, what sense did you get

1247
01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:56,600
Speaker 1: on their feelings when you brought that up? About who's

1248
01:03:56,600 --> 01:03:59,160
Speaker 1: going to win the majority of those uh toe to

1249
01:03:59,160 --> 01:04:04,280
Speaker 1: toe content. Yeah, that's gonna be something next year. Um.

1250
01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:06,880
Speaker 1: The consensus among friends and family was, like, break out

1251
01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:09,560
Speaker 1: the flags because they're just not going to stop trash

1252
01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:12,120
Speaker 1: talking each other and trying to get in each other's heads.

1253
01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:14,120
Speaker 1: But but also like break out the tissues because it'll

1254
01:04:14,120 --> 01:04:17,720
Speaker 1: be kind of an emotional, um tier jerking moment. Especially

1255
01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:21,280
Speaker 1: for people who know them and know their bond. Um,

1256
01:04:21,640 --> 01:04:23,800
Speaker 1: So I'm not I'm not quite sure it's gonna have

1257
01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:27,080
Speaker 1: I like you all probably can't wait to see um.

1258
01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:30,480
Speaker 1: But uh, you know, Trayvon's line is he's he's saving

1259
01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:33,120
Speaker 1: up all of his little brother losses for the super Bowl.

1260
01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:36,960
Speaker 1: So he's gonna cash in if and when the Cowboys

1261
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:39,320
Speaker 1: and the Bills swear off for the big one. Um,

1262
01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:41,600
Speaker 1: he'll take all those beatings that he took and matted

1263
01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:44,440
Speaker 1: and um, you know, playing knee football and pick up

1264
01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:49,040
Speaker 1: basketball and all that. And his mom's that's that's one

1265
01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:50,720
Speaker 1: of my favorite parts that their mom is rooting for him.

1266
01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:53,439
Speaker 1: She's just like openly like I want the little brother

1267
01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:55,919
Speaker 1: to win. He's been taking into his whole life, like

1268
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Speaker 1: I'll wear she says, she's gonna wear her half and

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01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:02,200
Speaker 1: half jersey, but um, you know, deep down she wants

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01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:06,080
Speaker 1: to see treyvonn get one on him. After talking with

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Speaker 1: both of them, Alex and you know, we obviously they're

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Speaker 1: going to play next year, but it might not be

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01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:12,480
Speaker 1: next year. It could be this February, you know, in

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01:05:12,560 --> 01:05:15,160
Speaker 1: the super Bowl's not out of the realm. How crazy

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01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:17,160
Speaker 1: would a super Bowl week taking all this stuff we

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01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:19,040
Speaker 1: just talked about with what it would be like them

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01:05:19,080 --> 01:05:21,680
Speaker 1: going against each other, but you throw in the two weeks,

1278
01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:24,160
Speaker 1: the hype, you know, and everything that goes in and

1279
01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:26,840
Speaker 1: how bananas would that be both inside the Bigs family

1280
01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:29,560
Speaker 1: and then maybe outside in the greater world of football. Yeah,

1281
01:05:29,600 --> 01:05:32,160
Speaker 1: my guess is they would like both close off and

1282
01:05:32,200 --> 01:05:34,680
Speaker 1: be pretty pretty focus and locked in because they know

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01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:38,760
Speaker 1: how much it means. But I'm sure in like the

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01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:41,480
Speaker 1: family text change, it would be going crazy as everyone's

1285
01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:44,080
Speaker 1: you know, gearing up for this moment. Like I said,

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01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:46,720
Speaker 1: that has never never happened before, not just like on

1287
01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:49,400
Speaker 1: the macro level cornerback first for Supert brother, but just

1288
01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:52,200
Speaker 1: for these brothers that they've never actually faced off in

1289
01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:56,320
Speaker 1: a real game that's not the Pro Bowl. You You've

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01:05:56,400 --> 01:06:00,400
Speaker 1: mentioned quite often down through the article, and you can

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01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:03,720
Speaker 1: kind of see it the way their relationship is changed,

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01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:06,720
Speaker 1: you know, through the years and everything as it does.

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01:06:06,760 --> 01:06:08,960
Speaker 1: You know, when there's a five year age gap, you

1294
01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:12,480
Speaker 1: know that dynamic tends to change over the years, especially

1295
01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:15,920
Speaker 1: as you get older. One of the things that you know,

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01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:19,480
Speaker 1: if you're an older brother, you know and you have

1297
01:06:19,560 --> 01:06:22,880
Speaker 1: a younger brother or sibling, doesn't matter. You kind of

1298
01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:26,560
Speaker 1: hope they learn from some of your mistakes. And in

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01:06:26,680 --> 01:06:30,800
Speaker 1: reading this article, you can clearly tell that trey Von

1300
01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:35,880
Speaker 1: has watched Stephon for better and worse, and you can

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01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:38,920
Speaker 1: tell that he's kind of he's taken notes over the

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01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:42,520
Speaker 1: years of Okay, this is how I deal with this

1303
01:06:42,560 --> 01:06:45,800
Speaker 1: situation if it ever arises. And it is that kind

1304
01:06:45,840 --> 01:06:51,040
Speaker 1: of the sense that you got, oh absolutely, and I

1305
01:06:51,040 --> 01:06:53,920
Speaker 1: think observing from a very young age. Once he once

1306
01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:55,520
Speaker 1: I kind of clicked that he wanted actually wanted to

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01:06:55,560 --> 01:06:58,760
Speaker 1: follow this path, which yeah, he's a teenager, like doesn't

1308
01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:00,440
Speaker 1: have to click for everybody at that age. But you

1309
01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:03,720
Speaker 1: know Trayvon's owd admission he wasn't nearly as into like

1310
01:07:03,840 --> 01:07:06,439
Speaker 1: the daily workout Brian that Stefan was trying to drag

1311
01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:10,920
Speaker 1: him along for when he was like eleven, which begain reasonable, um,

1312
01:07:11,080 --> 01:07:12,720
Speaker 1: But over time, once it clicks and he sees that

1313
01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:15,240
Speaker 1: Stefan's getting you know, all these bins of recruiting mail

1314
01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:18,360
Speaker 1: and m fans are lining up with like tupperwares of

1315
01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:22,280
Speaker 1: cookies just to get his autograph after games. Um, you know,

1316
01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:24,680
Speaker 1: the crowds at high schools that he has tried like

1317
01:07:24,680 --> 01:07:27,440
Speaker 1: like at college games. Um, I think he wanted to

1318
01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:31,400
Speaker 1: follow fall along, And um a big part of that

1319
01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:33,840
Speaker 1: was again this two way street of like stuff on

1320
01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:35,960
Speaker 1: opening the door and saying, okay, come along, like I

1321
01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:38,080
Speaker 1: want you to come take what you will, but Trayvon

1322
01:07:38,160 --> 01:07:40,800
Speaker 1: also being eager to do that. So, UM, you know,

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01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:42,640
Speaker 1: I think it really kicked in a high gear when

1324
01:07:42,640 --> 01:07:45,280
Speaker 1: when Steffan was at Maryland and um, you know, he

1325
01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:48,160
Speaker 1: chooses a school that, as he admits in the article,

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01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:51,760
Speaker 1: he regrets from a development standpoint, But it's impossible to

1327
01:07:51,760 --> 01:07:55,120
Speaker 1: separate that from the largest factor that motivated that decision,

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01:07:55,160 --> 01:07:57,560
Speaker 1: which was his will, his desire to be close to

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01:07:58,120 --> 01:08:01,240
Speaker 1: Trayvon and Marshaw and his brothers. And um, you know,

1330
01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:04,680
Speaker 1: Trayvon's up at Maryland every single weekend hanging out, and

1331
01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:07,440
Speaker 1: um you know says that he just he got to

1332
01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:08,880
Speaker 1: see a lot and he had a lot of people

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01:08:09,120 --> 01:08:11,960
Speaker 1: looking looking out for him. Um you know. Less so

1334
01:08:12,120 --> 01:08:15,120
Speaker 1: when he's at Alabama and and Stefan's in the NFL

1335
01:08:15,160 --> 01:08:17,280
Speaker 1: and their schedules clashed and it's you know, much harder

1336
01:08:17,320 --> 01:08:20,280
Speaker 1: to travel and see each other. But UM, I think

1337
01:08:20,320 --> 01:08:24,240
Speaker 1: that that pattern still continues just in their constant communication

1338
01:08:24,360 --> 01:08:28,520
Speaker 1: and talking, and now that they're at the same level, UM,

1339
01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:32,439
Speaker 1: you know, it's I don't think it's changed. Stefan's still older.

1340
01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:34,479
Speaker 1: He's still ahead of the game in terms of you know,

1341
01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:37,479
Speaker 1: having changed teams, haven't gone through a trade request, having

1342
01:08:37,560 --> 01:08:40,080
Speaker 1: gone through a second and third contract, all these things

1343
01:08:40,120 --> 01:08:43,679
Speaker 1: that um, you know are going to continue to prop

1344
01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:47,280
Speaker 1: up for Trayvon Alex. The last thing for me here, UM,

1345
01:08:47,320 --> 01:08:49,080
Speaker 1: you know, Stefan's always been the older brother, the guy

1346
01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:51,679
Speaker 1: who's kind of been the guide, um when it comes

1347
01:08:51,680 --> 01:08:54,400
Speaker 1: to their journey, and Trayvon has been I think you know,

1348
01:08:54,439 --> 01:08:57,800
Speaker 1: it's seemingly a very good listener because um, you know,

1349
01:08:57,800 --> 01:08:59,600
Speaker 1: he'd been able to follow along in this path and

1350
01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:02,200
Speaker 1: into the NFL. You talk in the article about how

1351
01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:05,360
Speaker 1: Treyvon is is more soft spoken than Stefan. How much

1352
01:09:05,400 --> 01:09:08,720
Speaker 1: of that is maybe his personality, and how much of

1353
01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:11,120
Speaker 1: that is kind of being the role of the younger brother,

1354
01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:13,160
Speaker 1: having this guy, having this guy who can teach you

1355
01:09:13,160 --> 01:09:15,280
Speaker 1: everything and just you know, being smart enough to keep

1356
01:09:15,320 --> 01:09:17,280
Speaker 1: your mouth shut and listening to him and let him

1357
01:09:17,320 --> 01:09:20,000
Speaker 1: cut in guiding you. And I think you know, moving forward,

1358
01:09:20,040 --> 01:09:21,840
Speaker 1: now that you know, Trayvon's kind of almost reached the

1359
01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:23,439
Speaker 1: end of this journey, or at least you know, towards

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01:09:23,479 --> 01:09:26,200
Speaker 1: the end. Is there more to Traymon's personality that we

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01:09:26,280 --> 01:09:28,680
Speaker 1: might find over the next few years as he kind

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01:09:28,720 --> 01:09:30,639
Speaker 1: of you know, blossoms a little more and becomes more

1363
01:09:30,680 --> 01:09:33,840
Speaker 1: confident as a veteran in the NFL. Oh yeah, there's

1364
01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:37,840
Speaker 1: playing a personality there for sure. Uh. You know, I

1365
01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:39,840
Speaker 1: just think he's a little more guarded about what he

1366
01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:44,519
Speaker 1: shows the outside world. You know, he gave some answers.

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01:09:44,560 --> 01:09:48,439
Speaker 1: I think when Stefan was there, that we're Stefan not there,

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01:09:48,479 --> 01:09:51,160
Speaker 1: he probably wouldn't have expounded as much as he did.

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01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:54,439
Speaker 1: And I think surprising even people who are tagging along

1370
01:09:54,479 --> 01:09:57,719
Speaker 1: and you know, know the brothers and were watching like like, wow,

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01:09:57,760 --> 01:10:01,000
Speaker 1: Treyvon's really opening up here. And I think a large

1372
01:10:01,040 --> 01:10:04,839
Speaker 1: function of that is just kind of having that that comfort, um,

1373
01:10:04,880 --> 01:10:07,559
Speaker 1: that presence of stuff on there. But uh, you know

1374
01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:11,400
Speaker 1: you see that like his video like look at them, uh,

1375
01:10:11,439 --> 01:10:13,559
Speaker 1: you know, picking each other up and smiling and laughing.

1376
01:10:13,720 --> 01:10:17,439
Speaker 1: But um, you know that's that's Trayvon, independent of Stefan too,

1377
01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:23,000
Speaker 1: for sure. Um. So you know, his humor is uh,

1378
01:10:23,200 --> 01:10:25,599
Speaker 1: it's very sharp, and I think a little more like

1379
01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:30,519
Speaker 1: dry and um, you know, as Mike Clocksley, college coach

1380
01:10:30,520 --> 01:10:32,280
Speaker 1: who knows both of them very well, said, you know,

1381
01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:35,920
Speaker 1: Trayvon's kind of a quiet, shy one and Stefan's like

1382
01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:37,800
Speaker 1: kind of the boisterous in your face guy you have

1383
01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:41,800
Speaker 1: to tell to keep quiet. Um. But you know that's yeah,

1384
01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:43,400
Speaker 1: like I think kind of asked where that comes from.

1385
01:10:43,479 --> 01:10:47,280
Speaker 1: Like it's it's pretty tough to separate, you know, like

1386
01:10:47,360 --> 01:10:49,920
Speaker 1: a little brother from his identity because that's you know,

1387
01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:53,000
Speaker 1: that's just how it's always been, is um. He was

1388
01:10:53,040 --> 01:10:55,120
Speaker 1: always tagging a lot with this guy who was like

1389
01:10:55,240 --> 01:10:58,160
Speaker 1: never afraid to speak his mind or um, you know

1390
01:10:58,200 --> 01:11:01,519
Speaker 1: Stefan would like custom print genes and sell them in

1391
01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:03,920
Speaker 1: high school. Like you know, they've both always been these

1392
01:11:03,960 --> 01:11:09,240
Speaker 1: like free free spirits, um, very always willing to express

1393
01:11:09,240 --> 01:11:12,000
Speaker 1: how they feel, but just you know, in different ways

1394
01:11:12,040 --> 01:11:14,519
Speaker 1: and different comfort levels in terms of like who they

1395
01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:17,920
Speaker 1: express that too. One last one for me, Alex And

1396
01:11:17,960 --> 01:11:23,240
Speaker 1: you mentioned the genes right there. Stefaun is very into fashion.

1397
01:11:24,320 --> 01:11:28,920
Speaker 1: Obviously it looks like Drayvon also, is is there a

1398
01:11:29,080 --> 01:11:32,479
Speaker 1: competition about that as well? I would assume there is,

1399
01:11:32,520 --> 01:11:35,880
Speaker 1: And who's the more fashionable brother and and uh what

1400
01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:40,600
Speaker 1: uh what kind of trash talk did you hear about that? Yeah? Probably,

1401
01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:43,400
Speaker 1: but that that struck me more as like an area

1402
01:11:43,439 --> 01:11:47,880
Speaker 1: of common ground and like encouragement for them that they like,

1403
01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:50,400
Speaker 1: they both have their money now, so they're both like

1404
01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:54,280
Speaker 1: pool would like Yeah, helping each other look as good

1405
01:11:54,320 --> 01:11:56,599
Speaker 1: as possible would feel as good as possible. And um,

1406
01:11:57,000 --> 01:12:00,160
Speaker 1: you know, they each brought a suitcase of clothes I

1407
01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:02,040
Speaker 1: think they had helped each other pick out to the

1408
01:12:02,080 --> 01:12:04,320
Speaker 1: photo shoot, and then they had a box of share

1409
01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:07,559
Speaker 1: jewelry that they went took time and like, yeah, they

1410
01:12:07,680 --> 01:12:12,639
Speaker 1: honestly gonna really seemed to enjoy the process of like, yeah,

1411
01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:15,000
Speaker 1: helping each other find out, you know, what to wear

1412
01:12:15,040 --> 01:12:16,680
Speaker 1: for this, help each other pick what to wear for

1413
01:12:16,680 --> 01:12:19,799
Speaker 1: different parts of the photo shoot. And you know, another example,

1414
01:12:19,840 --> 01:12:22,519
Speaker 1: I think of Stefan kind of taking the lead because

1415
01:12:22,520 --> 01:12:24,920
Speaker 1: he's done more of these before, so you know, little

1416
01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:27,439
Speaker 1: moments where you know, I think you can see him

1417
01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:29,639
Speaker 1: say like, Okay, we're gonna do this next. We probably

1418
01:12:29,680 --> 01:12:32,680
Speaker 1: want more of this of the vibe or whatever it

1419
01:12:32,720 --> 01:12:35,400
Speaker 1: may be. I'm certainly not fashionable enough to keep up

1420
01:12:35,439 --> 01:12:38,719
Speaker 1: with them, but um, you know, off in the corner

1421
01:12:38,760 --> 01:12:42,840
Speaker 1: with my hoodie and jeans. It was instructive to watch. Yeah,

1422
01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:45,080
Speaker 1: I think I speak for that as well. I don't

1423
01:12:45,080 --> 01:12:47,920
Speaker 1: think we can keep up with the Diggs brothers either. Hey,

1424
01:12:48,439 --> 01:12:52,000
Speaker 1: enjoy hopefully some more rides in the Lamborghini down the road.

1425
01:12:52,520 --> 01:12:55,960
Speaker 1: This is This was Sports Illustrates Alex pruittt joining us.

1426
01:12:56,080 --> 01:12:59,360
Speaker 1: Be sure to jump on SI dot com and check

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01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:02,360
Speaker 1: out his article on the Diggs brothers. Once again, Alex,

1428
01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:05,200
Speaker 1: thanks so much for joining us here on One Bills Live.

1429
01:13:06,200 --> 01:13:08,200
Speaker 1: Thank you. I'm gonna go move my super hum present

1430
01:13:08,240 --> 01:13:11,920
Speaker 1: for street sweeping here in New York's all right, Hey,

1431
01:13:12,040 --> 01:13:15,120
Speaker 1: have a great weekend. We're gonna take a quick break.

1432
01:13:15,160 --> 01:13:18,360
Speaker 1: Coming up on One Bills Live, will continue to look

1433
01:13:18,400 --> 01:13:23,200
Speaker 1: forward to Bills training Camp. Stick around, We'll be right back.

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01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:43,840
Speaker 1: Welcome back to One Bills Live presented by Collide to Health.

1435
01:13:43,880 --> 01:13:46,479
Speaker 1: I'm Josh Red alongside Thad Brown. We're filling in for

1436
01:13:46,520 --> 01:13:51,280
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker and Chris Brown. Let's kick this segment off

1437
01:13:51,280 --> 01:13:54,000
Speaker 1: with a little bit of true false That true or

1438
01:13:54,040 --> 01:13:58,720
Speaker 1: false Quarterback Kyler Murray. We'll be able to lift the

1439
01:13:58,840 --> 01:14:06,439
Speaker 1: Cardinals during Andre Hopkins absence. I'm gonna lean false you know,

1440
01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:08,799
Speaker 1: I think Hopkins is a big part of that offense.

1441
01:14:09,040 --> 01:14:12,680
Speaker 1: I've never been a huge Kyler Murray fan, you know.

1442
01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:14,920
Speaker 1: I guess we'll have to define what lift means. Can

1443
01:14:14,960 --> 01:14:18,040
Speaker 1: he keep them afloat, you know, lift them above the

1444
01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:20,640
Speaker 1: waterline shirt? Can he lift them to something elite? And

1445
01:14:20,680 --> 01:14:22,599
Speaker 1: I'm sure where the Cardinals want to go this year?

1446
01:14:22,920 --> 01:14:25,559
Speaker 1: Then i'd say false to that. Yeah, I would agree

1447
01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:30,360
Speaker 1: with you. I just think that, you know, the more

1448
01:14:30,520 --> 01:14:33,479
Speaker 1: we see if Kyler Murray and the more that's on tape,

1449
01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:37,479
Speaker 1: the more I just go, I don't think he's elite, right,

1450
01:14:37,479 --> 01:14:40,000
Speaker 1: I just I don't. I don't think he's I don't

1451
01:14:40,040 --> 01:14:42,559
Speaker 1: think you're putting Kyler Murray in the conversation of the

1452
01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:47,000
Speaker 1: top seven or eight quarterbacks in the NFL. And to me,

1453
01:14:47,040 --> 01:14:49,960
Speaker 1: those are the guys that lift teams when the pieces

1454
01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:54,080
Speaker 1: around them are injured or even down a little bit.

1455
01:14:54,120 --> 01:14:57,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I just I'm with you. I'm probably a

1456
01:14:57,240 --> 01:15:00,479
Speaker 1: little stronger false than that. I think that they're gonna struggle.

1457
01:15:00,880 --> 01:15:04,960
Speaker 1: DeAndre hopkins absence really hurts them all. Right. Next up

1458
01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:10,920
Speaker 1: on the Ledger, if you will flag football should be

1459
01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:17,120
Speaker 1: an Olympic sport? True or false? Dad? Hard false. Here, Look,

1460
01:15:17,439 --> 01:15:19,679
Speaker 1: there's not enough countries in the world that play football

1461
01:15:19,680 --> 01:15:22,679
Speaker 1: well enough to where I care about, you know, France

1462
01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:27,800
Speaker 1: going against Luxembourg in an Olympic sport. Number two. You know,

1463
01:15:27,920 --> 01:15:31,519
Speaker 1: flag football isn't quite football. It's like, should home run

1464
01:15:31,600 --> 01:15:34,240
Speaker 1: derby be an Olympic sport? True or false? If we're

1465
01:15:34,240 --> 01:15:36,320
Speaker 1: not going to play the sport the way it's meant

1466
01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:39,160
Speaker 1: to be played, then let's not bother going through all

1467
01:15:39,200 --> 01:15:41,639
Speaker 1: the rigamar role of putting it into an Olympic sport

1468
01:15:41,640 --> 01:15:44,600
Speaker 1: and training up countries and waiting around for them to

1469
01:15:44,800 --> 01:15:47,080
Speaker 1: somewhat catch up to America to where it might be

1470
01:15:47,120 --> 01:15:49,280
Speaker 1: a contest. You know, if I want to see America

1471
01:15:49,400 --> 01:15:52,679
Speaker 1: dominating something, I'll just have a contest of heart disease,

1472
01:15:52,720 --> 01:15:54,800
Speaker 1: you know, something like that. I'm good with what we

1473
01:15:54,840 --> 01:15:57,320
Speaker 1: have right now in terms of Olympic sports. I'm a

1474
01:15:57,400 --> 01:16:02,920
Speaker 1: strong true let it happen. Why not? Skateboarding is in it, right,

1475
01:16:02,960 --> 01:16:07,080
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, but just let them play flag football.

1476
01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:10,760
Speaker 1: I'm with you, hey, you know, let the US go

1477
01:16:10,800 --> 01:16:13,559
Speaker 1: out and grab another gold medal. That's fine. I'm good

1478
01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:17,840
Speaker 1: with that. And this lead. This is a conversation that

1479
01:16:17,880 --> 01:16:21,160
Speaker 1: I've had with different friends, and we maybe even have

1480
01:16:21,280 --> 01:16:24,320
Speaker 1: talked about this through the years while we've been out,

1481
01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:26,519
Speaker 1: you know, covering the bills and stuff. It's making of

1482
01:16:26,560 --> 01:16:30,519
Speaker 1: the Olympics, all right. Question for you if there's one

1483
01:16:30,600 --> 01:16:33,639
Speaker 1: event I'm not saying you're gonna be on the podium

1484
01:16:33,680 --> 01:16:36,519
Speaker 1: at the end of it, right, there's a one event

1485
01:16:36,560 --> 01:16:42,639
Speaker 1: where you say, maybe I wouldn't finish last? Which event

1486
01:16:43,080 --> 01:16:45,160
Speaker 1: would that be? And I'll give you a second to

1487
01:16:45,160 --> 01:16:49,680
Speaker 1: think about that, because no offense people who are curlers,

1488
01:16:49,840 --> 01:16:52,080
Speaker 1: you know. But I have a feeling that if you

1489
01:16:52,120 --> 01:16:54,840
Speaker 1: give me a couple of weeks, I could figure out

1490
01:16:54,960 --> 01:16:57,639
Speaker 1: enough to where, you know, I'm surrounded by guys who

1491
01:16:57,680 --> 01:17:00,559
Speaker 1: know what they're doing and I could figure it out

1492
01:17:00,600 --> 01:17:04,840
Speaker 1: to not finish last. But that curling, to me, would

1493
01:17:04,880 --> 01:17:06,920
Speaker 1: be the Olympic sport where I feel like I could

1494
01:17:07,760 --> 01:17:11,519
Speaker 1: maybe not finished dead last. What do you got? Yeah,

1495
01:17:11,560 --> 01:17:13,519
Speaker 1: that's my answer too. I mean, that's that's the only one.

1496
01:17:13,520 --> 01:17:15,559
Speaker 1: You start thinking about all the Olympic sports, you know,

1497
01:17:15,640 --> 01:17:18,080
Speaker 1: could I possibly pull vault? Do I know how to

1498
01:17:18,160 --> 01:17:21,120
Speaker 1: throw a discus enough to not finish last? Most of

1499
01:17:21,120 --> 01:17:23,559
Speaker 1: those the answer is no, There's no no chance in

1500
01:17:23,560 --> 01:17:25,840
Speaker 1: the world. But I've actually done curling. There's a curling

1501
01:17:25,840 --> 01:17:28,840
Speaker 1: club in Rochester here. If you people want to do it,

1502
01:17:28,840 --> 01:17:31,200
Speaker 1: you can go try out. It's super fun. Yeah, it

1503
01:17:31,200 --> 01:17:33,479
Speaker 1: does feel like something that I could trade myself up

1504
01:17:33,479 --> 01:17:36,400
Speaker 1: to where i'd at least be functional. Maybe Olympic maybe

1505
01:17:36,400 --> 01:17:40,120
Speaker 1: Olympic golf potentially. Oh yeah, yeah, that'd be yeah, yeah,

1506
01:17:40,160 --> 01:17:42,439
Speaker 1: that would be another good one. But yeah, that's um.

1507
01:17:43,160 --> 01:17:45,320
Speaker 1: I always thought that was kind of an interesting debate

1508
01:17:45,360 --> 01:17:49,720
Speaker 1: with friends over cold soda pops them And one more

1509
01:17:49,760 --> 01:17:54,320
Speaker 1: true or false? The Bengals did the most this offseason

1510
01:17:54,439 --> 01:18:00,200
Speaker 1: to help their quarterback Joe Burrow. That true or fall

1511
01:18:01,080 --> 01:18:03,519
Speaker 1: so so most in the league or most they could

1512
01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:08,160
Speaker 1: possibly do. The Bengals did the most this offseason to

1513
01:18:08,280 --> 01:18:11,960
Speaker 1: help their quarterback. Yeah, I believe that means amongst the

1514
01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:17,679
Speaker 1: other teams in the league, I would I would say false.

1515
01:18:18,040 --> 01:18:21,200
Speaker 1: In fact, I would put them behind Miami simply by

1516
01:18:21,200 --> 01:18:23,680
Speaker 1: the virtue of bringing Tyree killing. And I think I

1517
01:18:23,760 --> 01:18:27,120
Speaker 1: might put them behind the Jets for all the rookies

1518
01:18:27,120 --> 01:18:29,479
Speaker 1: and Lake and Thominson they brought in for Zach Wilson,

1519
01:18:29,800 --> 01:18:33,000
Speaker 1: just off the top of my head, you know, obviously,

1520
01:18:33,080 --> 01:18:36,360
Speaker 1: the Bengals did a great job improving the offensive line.

1521
01:18:36,360 --> 01:18:37,920
Speaker 1: I mean, there are a ton of new pieces there.

1522
01:18:37,960 --> 01:18:39,960
Speaker 1: It should be a whole lot better than it was

1523
01:18:40,080 --> 01:18:43,200
Speaker 1: last year. But I believe the receiving group is going

1524
01:18:43,240 --> 01:18:44,880
Speaker 1: to be pretty much what it was last year. And

1525
01:18:44,920 --> 01:18:47,759
Speaker 1: even you know, at tight end, they're down C j Uzama,

1526
01:18:47,760 --> 01:18:51,720
Speaker 1: who's not great, but he's a solid tight end. So

1527
01:18:52,160 --> 01:18:54,800
Speaker 1: I don't I don't think they did more close, but

1528
01:18:54,840 --> 01:18:56,840
Speaker 1: I don't think they did more than what either AFC

1529
01:18:56,920 --> 01:18:59,160
Speaker 1: East team did this year for their quarterback. Yeah, I

1530
01:18:59,680 --> 01:19:02,040
Speaker 1: would agree with you on that. I do think they

1531
01:19:02,200 --> 01:19:05,599
Speaker 1: helped up front. They helped Joe Burrow upfront, which that

1532
01:19:05,720 --> 01:19:08,360
Speaker 1: was a huge issue at times last season. Their offensive

1533
01:19:08,360 --> 01:19:10,760
Speaker 1: line really struggled at times and he had guys in

1534
01:19:10,800 --> 01:19:13,519
Speaker 1: his face. So I feel like they helped him a

1535
01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:15,960
Speaker 1: little bit with the offensive line. Hey, you know we

1536
01:19:16,040 --> 01:19:19,320
Speaker 1: started this segment talking about Kyler Murray talking about Joe

1537
01:19:19,320 --> 01:19:22,120
Speaker 1: Burrow a little bit right there. I want to touch

1538
01:19:22,160 --> 01:19:26,280
Speaker 1: real quick on another one of the quarterbacks and the

1539
01:19:26,400 --> 01:19:31,360
Speaker 1: AFC North Lamar Jackson. Dad, he is a guy. I

1540
01:19:31,400 --> 01:19:35,240
Speaker 1: don't know that there's another player in the NFL who

1541
01:19:35,360 --> 01:19:40,120
Speaker 1: is more polarizing when it comes to He's elite versus

1542
01:19:40,160 --> 01:19:42,599
Speaker 1: the group of that say he's elite versus the group

1543
01:19:42,680 --> 01:19:48,360
Speaker 1: that say, no, Lamar is barely above average. I feel

1544
01:19:48,360 --> 01:19:54,519
Speaker 1: like that group is really split. It's it's really interesting

1545
01:19:54,560 --> 01:19:57,600
Speaker 1: because the guy's got an MVP on his shelf, but

1546
01:19:57,840 --> 01:20:01,439
Speaker 1: man does he get he get nitpicked a lot sad.

1547
01:20:01,479 --> 01:20:04,559
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on Lamar? Two things about that.

1548
01:20:04,680 --> 01:20:07,440
Speaker 1: Number One, when he came out of college out of Louisville,

1549
01:20:07,720 --> 01:20:11,479
Speaker 1: there was already that split between the group that there's

1550
01:20:11,600 --> 01:20:13,799
Speaker 1: no way he's ever going to be a great quarterback

1551
01:20:13,800 --> 01:20:16,800
Speaker 1: in the NFL to the group where it was absolutely

1552
01:20:16,840 --> 01:20:19,000
Speaker 1: how can you know a guy with this modern athletic

1553
01:20:19,000 --> 01:20:21,360
Speaker 1: ability and you know he can definitely throw the ball,

1554
01:20:21,400 --> 01:20:23,360
Speaker 1: whereas the naysayers said, this is not a guy who

1555
01:20:23,360 --> 01:20:25,519
Speaker 1: could you make all the throws in the NFL. So

1556
01:20:25,640 --> 01:20:28,400
Speaker 1: you had that division when it comes comes to the

1557
01:20:28,479 --> 01:20:31,680
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson analysis. Off the bat, I think there are

1558
01:20:31,720 --> 01:20:34,240
Speaker 1: people who have clung to whichever side you're on, And

1559
01:20:34,280 --> 01:20:36,599
Speaker 1: then I think as his career's gone on, what's happened

1560
01:20:36,720 --> 01:20:40,400
Speaker 1: is Lamar Jackson in the regular season is one of

1561
01:20:40,439 --> 01:20:43,080
Speaker 1: the more devastating players we have in the league right

1562
01:20:43,080 --> 01:20:45,639
Speaker 1: now any position. I mean the things that he does,

1563
01:20:45,720 --> 01:20:49,040
Speaker 1: the pressures he puts on defenses week the week the week,

1564
01:20:49,520 --> 01:20:52,719
Speaker 1: you know, especially when you're catching defenses that maybe don't

1565
01:20:52,760 --> 01:20:55,000
Speaker 1: have the pieces to hang with better teams in the NFL.

1566
01:20:55,120 --> 01:20:58,840
Speaker 1: I mean, he can utterly take teams apart, especially during

1567
01:20:58,880 --> 01:21:01,840
Speaker 1: the MVP year, but during the playoffs it hasn't been there,

1568
01:21:01,920 --> 01:21:05,920
Speaker 1: you know, largely his postseason performance has been underwhelming, you know.

1569
01:21:05,960 --> 01:21:09,320
Speaker 1: And whatever passing difficulties he has, now, look, I think

1570
01:21:09,360 --> 01:21:10,599
Speaker 1: he can throw the ball in the league. I don't

1571
01:21:10,600 --> 01:21:12,840
Speaker 1: think he's a great passer, but I think he's totally fine,

1572
01:21:12,880 --> 01:21:15,440
Speaker 1: an above average. But when you get to the playoffs

1573
01:21:15,640 --> 01:21:18,240
Speaker 1: and have to make those throws, when you got to

1574
01:21:18,280 --> 01:21:20,679
Speaker 1: convert third and eleven and the other team has enough

1575
01:21:20,760 --> 01:21:22,960
Speaker 1: speed to prevent you from doing it with your legs

1576
01:21:23,200 --> 01:21:26,120
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson hasn't done it yet. And I'm not saying

1577
01:21:26,120 --> 01:21:27,840
Speaker 1: he can't do it, but he hasn't done it yet.

1578
01:21:28,040 --> 01:21:29,880
Speaker 1: And that allows anyone who wants to be an a

1579
01:21:29,960 --> 01:21:32,559
Speaker 1: sayer to say, look, look at this. Here, he hasn't

1580
01:21:32,600 --> 01:21:35,760
Speaker 1: been able to succeed here where Pat Mahomes has, where

1581
01:21:35,840 --> 01:21:38,920
Speaker 1: Josh Allen did last year, where Joe Burrow did last year,

1582
01:21:39,200 --> 01:21:41,000
Speaker 1: so it keeps its debate going. I know a lot

1583
01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:43,519
Speaker 1: of the Lamar Jackson talk was spurred by him not

1584
01:21:43,600 --> 01:21:46,600
Speaker 1: making the top ten quarterback list for whoever had it,

1585
01:21:47,000 --> 01:21:49,559
Speaker 1: and that's wrong. He's a top ten quarterback. But I

1586
01:21:49,720 --> 01:21:52,479
Speaker 1: do get the idea, or at least understand how there

1587
01:21:52,479 --> 01:21:55,040
Speaker 1: can be reasonable criticism of what he's become as a

1588
01:21:55,120 --> 01:21:58,439
Speaker 1: quarterback in the NFL. Yeah, it's really interesting you started

1589
01:21:58,520 --> 01:22:01,360
Speaker 1: off your point. I thought it was really interesting with

1590
01:22:02,120 --> 01:22:05,920
Speaker 1: these two groups came in with this idea. So they're

1591
01:22:05,960 --> 01:22:09,639
Speaker 1: going to find stuff that supports their idea and they're

1592
01:22:09,680 --> 01:22:13,040
Speaker 1: gonna grasp onto it as long as they possibly can,

1593
01:22:13,120 --> 01:22:16,639
Speaker 1: and which would probably mean Lamar winning, maybe another MVP,

1594
01:22:17,280 --> 01:22:19,280
Speaker 1: maybe a super Bowl. One of the one of the

1595
01:22:19,360 --> 01:22:23,040
Speaker 1: things that I maybe doesn't get talked about enough is

1596
01:22:23,960 --> 01:22:26,879
Speaker 1: what's he what's he asked to do within their system?

1597
01:22:27,000 --> 01:22:30,360
Speaker 1: You know, because that system it doesn't look like what

1598
01:22:30,479 --> 01:22:33,519
Speaker 1: Josh Allen runs, It doesn't look like what Aaron Rodgers runs.

1599
01:22:33,560 --> 01:22:39,200
Speaker 1: You know. They they the Ravens historically, since John Harbaugh

1600
01:22:39,280 --> 01:22:44,240
Speaker 1: got there, historically have been we're gonna win with defense mostly,

1601
01:22:44,360 --> 01:22:46,839
Speaker 1: that's basically what we're gonna do. We're gonna build our defense.

1602
01:22:47,160 --> 01:22:50,759
Speaker 1: We're gonna they're gonna try to win games twenty one seventeen,

1603
01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:53,920
Speaker 1: and they're very comfortable with that. And they're not gonna

1604
01:22:53,960 --> 01:22:57,639
Speaker 1: be afraid to run Lamar on third and twelve like

1605
01:22:57,640 --> 01:23:00,519
Speaker 1: they're gonna do that. They're gonna use the run game,

1606
01:23:00,640 --> 01:23:02,760
Speaker 1: They're gonna use the tight ends heavily. Look at their

1607
01:23:02,760 --> 01:23:06,000
Speaker 1: tight ends have always been really good and productive, and

1608
01:23:06,000 --> 01:23:08,839
Speaker 1: they still have a really good one there with Mark Andrews.

1609
01:23:08,880 --> 01:23:12,000
Speaker 1: It's it's just I don't they're He's not asked to

1610
01:23:12,120 --> 01:23:17,240
Speaker 1: do the same thing. So you're not comparing apples to apples, right,

1611
01:23:19,160 --> 01:23:21,200
Speaker 1: I know what you're saying. And this is part of

1612
01:23:21,200 --> 01:23:23,920
Speaker 1: the great conundrum of analyzing football. You know, how much

1613
01:23:24,160 --> 01:23:25,640
Speaker 1: of it is the player, how much of it is

1614
01:23:25,720 --> 01:23:28,400
Speaker 1: the scheme. I mean, is Lamar Jackson not being asked

1615
01:23:28,439 --> 01:23:30,879
Speaker 1: to do a lot as a quarterback because the coaches

1616
01:23:30,920 --> 01:23:33,160
Speaker 1: are just not smart enough to ask him to do more?

1617
01:23:33,560 --> 01:23:34,920
Speaker 1: Or is he not being asked to do a lot

1618
01:23:34,920 --> 01:23:37,200
Speaker 1: as a quarterback because the coaches, by the way, who

1619
01:23:37,240 --> 01:23:40,160
Speaker 1: have won a Super Bowl before, know that that's not

1620
01:23:40,200 --> 01:23:42,439
Speaker 1: what his strength is and by asking him to go

1621
01:23:42,520 --> 01:23:44,960
Speaker 1: into this other realm as a quarterback, it's not good

1622
01:23:45,000 --> 01:23:47,080
Speaker 1: for the football team. I don't know. I don't have

1623
01:23:47,120 --> 01:23:50,280
Speaker 1: the answer, but you know, either side can you know,

1624
01:23:50,360 --> 01:23:54,839
Speaker 1: come up with reasons that would make their argument seem correct.

1625
01:23:55,040 --> 01:23:56,760
Speaker 1: And that's why we keep debating, going around and round.

1626
01:23:56,840 --> 01:23:59,760
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. I think that the way he ends it

1627
01:23:59,840 --> 01:24:02,440
Speaker 1: is probably by winning a super Bowl, but more importantly

1628
01:24:02,640 --> 01:24:05,559
Speaker 1: by winning a super Bowl, you know, with all the

1629
01:24:05,600 --> 01:24:08,640
Speaker 1: aspects of quarterback play being in a high level from

1630
01:24:08,680 --> 01:24:11,160
Speaker 1: his point of view. As we kind of continue to

1631
01:24:11,560 --> 01:24:15,439
Speaker 1: cruise around the AFC a little bit here, let's let's

1632
01:24:15,439 --> 01:24:18,920
Speaker 1: talk about the Bills division a little bit. What's what's

1633
01:24:18,960 --> 01:24:22,640
Speaker 1: the one team? I think most people just automatically are

1634
01:24:22,640 --> 01:24:27,120
Speaker 1: gonna say Dolphins. What's the one team that the Bills

1635
01:24:27,160 --> 01:24:29,360
Speaker 1: should be concerned with? It is? It? Is it just

1636
01:24:29,400 --> 01:24:31,519
Speaker 1: the Dolphins? Because it is what it is. They added

1637
01:24:31,520 --> 01:24:33,960
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill, they have a bunch of playmakers on the outside.

1638
01:24:34,680 --> 01:24:37,000
Speaker 1: Or is there a possibility that the Jets are going

1639
01:24:37,040 --> 01:24:39,439
Speaker 1: to be that much better this year? They did great

1640
01:24:39,479 --> 01:24:41,000
Speaker 1: things in the draft. What they did in the draft

1641
01:24:41,040 --> 01:24:43,000
Speaker 1: I thought was that they hit a bunch of home runs.

1642
01:24:43,040 --> 01:24:47,000
Speaker 1: There we shall see. And the Patriots, at the end

1643
01:24:47,040 --> 01:24:49,799
Speaker 1: of the day, they still have Belichick. Maybe Mac Jones

1644
01:24:50,240 --> 01:24:53,599
Speaker 1: takes a step. I'm not sold on that happening. But

1645
01:24:53,720 --> 01:24:57,000
Speaker 1: when you look at that division at the end of

1646
01:24:57,000 --> 01:24:59,800
Speaker 1: the day, or the Dolphins just a clear cut number two,

1647
01:25:01,080 --> 01:25:04,960
Speaker 1: I don't think it's clear cut. I think probably they're

1648
01:25:04,960 --> 01:25:06,839
Speaker 1: the better team. I think the Dolphins make the playoffs

1649
01:25:06,840 --> 01:25:09,040
Speaker 1: this year, you know. I think, you know, in part

1650
01:25:09,120 --> 01:25:11,280
Speaker 1: because of schedules and the division they're in and not

1651
01:25:11,320 --> 01:25:14,120
Speaker 1: having to be in either the AFC North or West Gauntland.

1652
01:25:14,240 --> 01:25:16,000
Speaker 1: I think the Dolphins will end up a playoff team,

1653
01:25:16,080 --> 01:25:17,800
Speaker 1: and I like a lot of what they've done now.

1654
01:25:17,960 --> 01:25:20,160
Speaker 1: I think Ta is a better quarterback than most people

1655
01:25:20,160 --> 01:25:22,720
Speaker 1: give them credit for. Now. What most people give them

1656
01:25:22,720 --> 01:25:24,280
Speaker 1: credit for right now isn't that high a bar. So

1657
01:25:24,320 --> 01:25:27,120
Speaker 1: I'm not saying much, but I think the Dolphins, top

1658
01:25:27,160 --> 01:25:30,439
Speaker 1: to bottom, you know, have the best roster and the

1659
01:25:30,439 --> 01:25:32,639
Speaker 1: best look at being competitive. So if there is a

1660
01:25:32,680 --> 01:25:36,000
Speaker 1: concern for the Bills, it's Miami. But I think, you know,

1661
01:25:36,040 --> 01:25:38,439
Speaker 1: when you look at the three teams, I don't think

1662
01:25:38,479 --> 01:25:41,559
Speaker 1: any one of them is a worry. Maybe not concerning

1663
01:25:41,680 --> 01:25:44,439
Speaker 1: everybody's a concern, not a worry for the Bills, but

1664
01:25:44,560 --> 01:25:47,160
Speaker 1: I think all three of those teams, including the Jets,

1665
01:25:47,880 --> 01:25:50,479
Speaker 1: could be and might be you know, might maybe are

1666
01:25:51,000 --> 01:25:52,680
Speaker 1: you know, good enough to pick Buffalo off on a

1667
01:25:52,760 --> 01:25:55,439
Speaker 1: day where the Bills are sleeping? This isn't last year's division,

1668
01:25:55,880 --> 01:25:57,800
Speaker 1: you know where I think Buffalo can just roll through

1669
01:25:57,840 --> 01:26:02,120
Speaker 1: the three teams, barring some creasy win aided game or

1670
01:26:02,120 --> 01:26:04,800
Speaker 1: something like they lost to with the Patriots. You know,

1671
01:26:05,320 --> 01:26:07,800
Speaker 1: I think this team or this division this year is

1672
01:26:07,800 --> 01:26:09,000
Speaker 1: going to be a whole lot better and a whole

1673
01:26:09,000 --> 01:26:11,840
Speaker 1: lot more competitive to where you know, every game is

1674
01:26:11,880 --> 01:26:13,759
Speaker 1: not going to be a walkover for the Bills, probably

1675
01:26:13,800 --> 01:26:15,720
Speaker 1: not even most teams. All right, real quick, we got

1676
01:26:15,760 --> 01:26:17,640
Speaker 1: about thirty seconds. We gotta hit the break here. But

1677
01:26:17,840 --> 01:26:22,360
Speaker 1: a bit little bigger picture, Thad, we probably believe the

1678
01:26:22,400 --> 01:26:24,640
Speaker 1: Dolphins are going to be the team the you know,

1679
01:26:24,840 --> 01:26:27,320
Speaker 1: the team the number two team in that division. How

1680
01:26:27,320 --> 01:26:30,120
Speaker 1: about conference wise? Is it just is it just the

1681
01:26:30,200 --> 01:26:33,640
Speaker 1: Chiefs or you know, you start looking around, maybe the

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Speaker 1: Chargers make that leap. Let's face it, the Bengals were

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Speaker 1: the team that made it to the Super Bowl last year.

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01:26:40,920 --> 01:26:43,439
Speaker 1: When that all kind of comes out in the wash,

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Speaker 1: which team should the Bills kind of be eyeballing? I've

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01:26:47,360 --> 01:26:49,240
Speaker 1: been on the charge. Of the last two years, I've

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01:26:49,240 --> 01:26:51,360
Speaker 1: always been wrong. Like they continue to disappoint me. I'm

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01:26:51,360 --> 01:26:53,320
Speaker 1: gonna be on them again this year. I think the

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Speaker 1: Ravens are a team that have to be watched out for.

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01:26:55,400 --> 01:26:57,000
Speaker 1: I mean, look, they went nine to eight last year

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01:26:57,120 --> 01:26:59,280
Speaker 1: and had one of the worst injury runs you can

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Speaker 1: ever remember. If Lamar figures out in the playoffs, he'll

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01:27:02,400 --> 01:27:03,800
Speaker 1: be dangerous. But I'll tell you what, you know who

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Speaker 1: I think it is. Whichever team is healthiest, whichever of

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01:27:06,560 --> 01:27:09,200
Speaker 1: those teams with big quarterbacks has the best injury run

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01:27:09,280 --> 01:27:11,080
Speaker 1: this year, that's the team that Buffalo is gonna have

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Speaker 1: to worry about. It sounds good that all right, We're

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Speaker 1: gonna take a quick break stick around One Bills Live

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01:27:17,160 --> 01:27:36,519
Speaker 1: from One Bill's Drive. We'll be right back. Welcome back

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Speaker 1: to One Bills Live presented by Kali to Health Fad

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Speaker 1: training camp coming up a week from Sunday. It's gonna

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01:27:44,120 --> 01:27:46,840
Speaker 1: be great to be back in Rochester. It's gonna be

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01:27:46,880 --> 01:27:49,000
Speaker 1: great seeing you, getting back with all the other media

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01:27:49,080 --> 01:27:52,439
Speaker 1: members and watching actual football and getting rid of this

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01:27:52,520 --> 01:27:56,200
Speaker 1: dead period. Right now that we're in I know Rochester

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01:27:56,280 --> 01:27:59,280
Speaker 1: is excited to have the Bills back. In town. The

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01:27:59,320 --> 01:28:02,559
Speaker 1: fans obviously are excited because there aren't any tickets left

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01:28:02,600 --> 01:28:05,600
Speaker 1: to go to these training camp practices. Give give us

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01:28:05,640 --> 01:28:10,320
Speaker 1: some obviously, the garbage plates are huge in Rochester. Give

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01:28:10,479 --> 01:28:13,120
Speaker 1: some of the people listening and watching an idea of

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01:28:13,120 --> 01:28:16,880
Speaker 1: of two or three places to hit for a garbage plate. Well,

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01:28:17,000 --> 01:28:19,400
Speaker 1: the number one place of the original nicktile is downtown

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01:28:19,960 --> 01:28:23,120
Speaker 1: on Broad Street. The neighborhoods a little dicey, but let

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Speaker 1: me tell you, well worth the trip. You're gonna be fine.

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01:28:25,240 --> 01:28:29,920
Speaker 1: You're gonna love your food outside of that. Like every town, Fairport, Webster, Brighton,

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01:28:29,960 --> 01:28:32,280
Speaker 1: we all have our own hots and they all have

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01:28:32,280 --> 01:28:34,599
Speaker 1: pretty good plates. I will say the Webster Hots plate

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01:28:34,640 --> 01:28:37,280
Speaker 1: where I live now is the one of the better ones.

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01:28:37,320 --> 01:28:39,960
Speaker 1: I've tried the little ways out, but again worth the trip.

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Speaker 1: The place people got to go if they were to

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01:28:41,560 --> 01:28:47,120
Speaker 1: training camp Pittsford Dairy for ice cream, unbelievable Sundays floats.

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01:28:47,320 --> 01:28:50,280
Speaker 1: They've got baked goods in there. You gotta stop by.

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Speaker 1: If you're gonna do one place in Rochester, your training camp,

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01:28:52,960 --> 01:28:56,599
Speaker 1: Pittsford Dairy as your place. That's it that it's a date. Man,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna see you a week from Sunday and we'll

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Speaker 1: have ice cream cones in our hands. So stop out

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Speaker 1: there and we'll see the Bills fans out there. Hey,

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Speaker 1: Brownie and Tasker, they're gonna be back next week. Thanks

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01:29:11,080 --> 01:29:13,680
Speaker 1: for putting up with me and Pat Brown Thanks for

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Speaker 1: watching and listening to One Bills Live presented by Kalidah

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Speaker 1: Health