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Speaker 1: Charlomagne the god in the motherfucking house. Michael Rappaport, what's happening?

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Speaker 1: Everything's cool, man, I appreciate you coming. Thanks rocking me

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Speaker 1: the Iron Rapport stereo podcast. You're usually the interviewer, yes.

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Speaker 1: Are you comfortable being interviewed? Yeah? I actually enjoyed. It

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Speaker 1: feels like therapy. You know what I mean, I think

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Speaker 1: sometimes we need people to talk to you know what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying. And it's always interested to see, uh, what

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Speaker 1: So I always find that like intriguing. And what was

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Speaker 1: what what's the hardest interview you've ever had? Because I

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Speaker 1: When you're interviewing people, you don't contextualize, like you don't

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Speaker 1: just the interviews you've had crazy fucking interviews. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: years ago? That was last year? It was last year,

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Speaker 1: The ray J Cole like, I mean this is like

421
00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:13,760
Speaker 1: where I was like, yo, I'm I'm getting old, Like

422
00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:15,640
Speaker 1: I don't give a funk with ray J and fabulous ship,

423
00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:17,760
Speaker 1: Like this is crazy, Like, so what would you say,

424
00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:19,280
Speaker 1: like if you look back, like, Yo, these are the

425
00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:24,199
Speaker 1: five craziest excluding Kanye and bergman Um. It just depends

426
00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:26,840
Speaker 1: what you call crazy. Like I guess you know, Federal

427
00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,200
Speaker 1: Star would have been crazy, but I actually thought that

428
00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:31,359
Speaker 1: was because I grew up on Onyx, So I grew

429
00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:34,520
Speaker 1: up on Back to Funk Up. So to see Sunny Season, you,

430
00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:37,359
Speaker 1: I mean, see to see Federal style really wilding, you know,

431
00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:40,399
Speaker 1: Sunny Season sticky Federal, like to see him wilding like that.

432
00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:42,600
Speaker 1: In that moment, I'm like, Yo, this is dope, Like

433
00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:44,399
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. It's like it's like watching

434
00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:46,480
Speaker 1: the Back to Funk Up video live and in person,

435
00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:48,359
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like stuff like that didn't

436
00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:50,560
Speaker 1: bother me. Did you think that any of people like Yo,

437
00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:52,480
Speaker 1: this is gonna like we're gonna be fighting in here,

438
00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:54,640
Speaker 1: Like did you ever think like this is gonna go

439
00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:58,439
Speaker 1: over the the ship talking over the beefing edge and

440
00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:00,840
Speaker 1: like this is gonna like turn Like did you feel

441
00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,000
Speaker 1: like that it was gonna get out of hand? That's

442
00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:06,000
Speaker 1: interesting because I never I've never been in that position.

443
00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:09,560
Speaker 1: So in that moment, I'm like I'm First of all,

444
00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:11,080
Speaker 1: I was wondering. I'm like why, I'm like, why are

445
00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:13,240
Speaker 1: you get so mad? Bro? Like, what's up? Because you

446
00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:15,800
Speaker 1: said this about Brandy? Like I didn't make this up?

447
00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,080
Speaker 1: Like I didn't pull this out. This guy, you are

448
00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:21,080
Speaker 1: on a video saying you got ahead from Brandy? So

449
00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,959
Speaker 1: why are you upset with me? Because I bought it up?

450
00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:25,919
Speaker 1: You know. So that's the first thing I was thinking.

451
00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:27,959
Speaker 1: And then you know, you know, I'm listening to him

452
00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,479
Speaker 1: huffing puff and if you watch the interview, I asked him,

453
00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:32,840
Speaker 1: I said, you're good or do we need five minutes?

454
00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:35,439
Speaker 1: And you know that's just saying that you want to

455
00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:37,760
Speaker 1: go in another room and throw down a little bit,

456
00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:39,920
Speaker 1: like you know, it's all good. And he was like, no,

457
00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,080
Speaker 1: I'm good, all right? Cool, not nothing to talk about,

458
00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:44,960
Speaker 1: Like like the verbal don't bother me, like you know,

459
00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:46,320
Speaker 1: if you don't, you don't put your hands on me.

460
00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:49,439
Speaker 1: Really cool, Like the verbal that's just talking, you know.

461
00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,639
Speaker 1: Benie Seagull was another one that was very hostile. He

462
00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:55,760
Speaker 1: was pissed, Yeah, but I didn't. I didn't that don't

463
00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,679
Speaker 1: bother me either, because I don't mind that because I'm

464
00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:01,280
Speaker 1: sitting there telling you exactly what I want to tell you,

465
00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,159
Speaker 1: so you can respond however you want. Right that guy,

466
00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:08,159
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not ever surprised by anybody's reaction, you know.

467
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,600
Speaker 1: But the one those interviews like that don't never I

468
00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:14,439
Speaker 1: don't ever look at those is like scarier anything. Like

469
00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,320
Speaker 1: they're not crazy to me. The things that are crazy

470
00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:18,800
Speaker 1: to me are things that I don't think are a

471
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Speaker 1: big deal. Um or what moments. Well, I'm not gonna

472
00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:25,520
Speaker 1: say I didn't think it was a big deal. I

473
00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:27,000
Speaker 1: just didn't think it all the way through like I

474
00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,560
Speaker 1: wanted to. Like this year, we had a little duvall

475
00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:32,280
Speaker 1: on there and he made you know, he didn't make

476
00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:37,359
Speaker 1: the comments about transgender transsexual somebody. You know, I asked

477
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Speaker 1: him what he thought of the military man, and everybody

478
00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:41,680
Speaker 1: says that was a stupid question to ask you all,

479
00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,360
Speaker 1: But y'all usually when you ask comedians those kind of questions,

480
00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:48,359
Speaker 1: they have like different viewpoints than we've seen before. So

481
00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:50,439
Speaker 1: that was a legit question of mine. But then you know,

482
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Speaker 1: Nvy asked him about if he slept with for a

483
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Speaker 1: transgender trans sexual and you know, found out that they

484
00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:58,359
Speaker 1: used to be a guy, how would he feel and

485
00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,640
Speaker 1: do all reaction was yo, um, somebody got to die.

486
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,080
Speaker 1: And I'm like, no, you can't say that. That's that's

487
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:05,960
Speaker 1: a hate crime. And then he was like, holy we rephrase.

488
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:08,520
Speaker 1: If I was deceived like that, I would probably be

489
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:10,399
Speaker 1: so angry that I would want to kill somebody, you

490
00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:11,480
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And then I was like, Yo,

491
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Speaker 1: you just can't go around killing transvesti But it just,

492
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 1: you know, it just it went. It just went too

493
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Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't take into consideration how they feel,

494
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:23,120
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And I think that's that's

495
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:26,280
Speaker 1: that comes with being a heterosexual male who I'm not

496
00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:29,080
Speaker 1: in those spaces. I'm not having those conversations with those people.

497
00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:33,320
Speaker 1: We take for granted what hurts other communities sometimes, you know,

498
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:35,480
Speaker 1: because we're just kicking the ship, you know, the ball

499
00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:37,440
Speaker 1: is really my friends. So that's like, that's a real

500
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,720
Speaker 1: conversation we would be having if the Mikes weren't on.

501
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 1: It was really my guys. We were just having a

502
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,879
Speaker 1: real conversation, but we weren't taking into consideration. You know.

503
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Speaker 1: At the time, I think it was like fourteen fifteen, transgender,

504
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:50,639
Speaker 1: trans sexual I've been killed that year, So that was

505
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:54,560
Speaker 1: a very sensitive thing. So for me, that was crazy

506
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,399
Speaker 1: and I wish that. I wish I knew more about

507
00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,879
Speaker 1: that community. I had more compassion towards that community, so

508
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,359
Speaker 1: I would have just taking that out. Was there a

509
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,400
Speaker 1: lot of blowback for that from that? Oh? Hell yeah?

510
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 1: And what is it like from your bosses? Is it like?

511
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 1: What is the internet? The LGBT community? They're coming right atter? Yeah?

512
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,919
Speaker 1: Fired this motherfucker. Man. They had a they had a

513
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:20,440
Speaker 1: petition going, are you like, yo, I fucked up? Um?

514
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:21,879
Speaker 1: Like if you I was? I was. I was a

515
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:25,320
Speaker 1: little confused at first because I was like, hold on, yeah,

516
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Speaker 1: like I said it, you know what I'm saying. I

517
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 1: was like actually defended it and told him, man, he

518
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Speaker 1: can't say that. I'm like, that's a hey crime. I

519
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 1: specifically said, you can't go around killing transgender people. You

520
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 1: know what? Sound like, why is all of this rhetoric

521
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,119
Speaker 1: coming towards me? Like they came in, you know, protested

522
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Speaker 1: me at um Politicon. Uh huh. I was out there

523
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,440
Speaker 1: with MSNBC and they came in protesting me there. They

524
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,040
Speaker 1: boycotted in front of the radio station. So I was

525
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 1: a little confused about it until I had to, like

526
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Speaker 1: I just had to take a step back and say,

527
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:54,480
Speaker 1: hold on, let me see what I could have done

528
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 1: better in this situation. You know, I'm never one when

529
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Speaker 1: I'm getting critiqued to just be like now y'all wrong

530
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:02,480
Speaker 1: and now it wasn't me. I want to see like,

531
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 1: you know, let me, let me find let me find

532
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,479
Speaker 1: out what my place was and this whole situation. How

533
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,159
Speaker 1: could I have changed this energy? So it was just

534
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 1: a matter of like like you said earlier, like being

535
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 1: more compassionate, you know what I mean, Like being more sympathetically.

536
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:15,440
Speaker 1: Guess what if that was a white dude in there

537
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:17,959
Speaker 1: and he would have made a comment about, you know,

538
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,120
Speaker 1: black people and said something like yeah, killed black black

539
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 1: I'd have felt the way right, you know what I mean.

540
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 1: So sometimes you gotta put yourself in other people's shoes.

541
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:29,639
Speaker 1: That's all Hillary Clinton, when you interviewed her, like and

542
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 1: what goes into that, Like there's like fucking secret service

543
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,399
Speaker 1: come up there, Like what's the behind the scenes and

544
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 1: what's your preparation like for Hillary Clinton? Because that's like

545
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 1: this ain't fucking puff, this ain't ho this is beyond that.

546
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 1: This is like, yeah, I'm about she's running for president

547
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 1: of the United states. Yeah, I don't. I don't even

548
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:46,879
Speaker 1: know if I ever ever said this anyway, but I

549
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 1: remember they were trying to get Hillary on for a while.

550
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,200
Speaker 1: They were trying to get her on the breakfast clause, Yeah,

551
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 1: for a while. And one time they called my phone

552
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 1: and they had like this, Uh, it's just a pre interview,

553
00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 1: like it was just vetting me basically, you know what

554
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:02,879
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like what would you ask Hillary? And this

555
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,159
Speaker 1: and that? And I'm just who was that? Did you? Like?

556
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:08,160
Speaker 1: Was it my man? My man? But car Sellers hooked

557
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 1: it up. I don't. I can't remember exactly who I

558
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:13,359
Speaker 1: was on the phone with though, but um, after that conversation,

559
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 1: they actually they bet all your social media to see

560
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 1: what you've ever said about Hillary everything everything. They pulled

561
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:24,440
Speaker 1: up a video from this old social media app called

562
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,680
Speaker 1: Scout that I forgot I even had, and I'm one Halloween.

563
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,199
Speaker 1: I had put on a Hillary mask and I was

564
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:34,639
Speaker 1: going around just thrusting people. I'll be grabbing like and

565
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,199
Speaker 1: it was I was like I was just thrusting like

566
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Speaker 1: my co workers. Like the guy's pause, but it was

567
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,400
Speaker 1: what it was, right, and they had that up there

568
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:44,639
Speaker 1: and then I think I made like a tweet like

569
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:48,360
Speaker 1: eight nine years ago when I said something like Hillary

570
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 1: and pants suits, so so I forgot. I don't remember

571
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 1: what I even said. And they they're bringing all this

572
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,439
Speaker 1: up to you, all of that ship, all of it.

573
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:59,200
Speaker 1: So they passed at first. They was like, nah, we're

574
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,639
Speaker 1: not bringing Hillary here. But then like you know, like

575
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,119
Speaker 1: in six team, like around eight it was April. They

576
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 1: was just like all of a sudden because this was

577
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:09,440
Speaker 1: when this happened, so like April, like maybe around March. Oh,

578
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 1: they took me to dinner too. That was the other thing.

579
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,639
Speaker 1: And her campaign team at the time, they're like checking

580
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 1: you out to see what you're dealing. Yeah, because see

581
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 1: the thing is and that's why I think we missed

582
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 1: out on the great opportunity with Hillary. Hillary had so

583
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 1: many women of color around her, like her whole team,

584
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,119
Speaker 1: everybody that she was you know, dealing with false campaign

585
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 1: strategy was all women of color, Like those are people

586
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,200
Speaker 1: that were running their campaign. And they all were listening

587
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 1: to the Breakfast Club and they was like, no, you

588
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 1: have to go on the breakfast clubs. We we went

589
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,120
Speaker 1: to dinner and we kicked it and they they was like, yo,

590
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 1: she wants to do the interview. So we did it

591
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 1: in hall of somebody. I even actually had a picture

592
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:47,159
Speaker 1: of her prepping to interview with me beforehand. She was prepping.

593
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 1: It looks so crazy, look like they're in a war

594
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 1: room and like everybody's like communicating with her hand in

595
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,399
Speaker 1: her papers and this and that, and um my my

596
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 1: mindset with interview and Hillary, I said to myself, rap,

597
00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:01,160
Speaker 1: I said, Yo, man, there's nothing political I can ask

598
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 1: killery that she won't have a talking point for, right, nothing.

599
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:08,120
Speaker 1: You're not gonna trick her into nothing. So my only

600
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,880
Speaker 1: thing politically that I wanted to address with her was

601
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 1: the ninety four crime bill that that bill Clinton, you know, implemented,

602
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,400
Speaker 1: and you know a lot of people of color were

603
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 1: locked up because of that, a lot of families destroys.

604
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 1: I want to know how she's gonna rectify that. But

605
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 1: other than that, I want I just wanted to kick

606
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:24,879
Speaker 1: you with Hillary because she's so robotic, you know what

607
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,119
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like we don't know who Hillary Clinton is.

608
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm just gonna ask her questions that I

609
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 1: know she don't got talking points for. That's why when

610
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 1: she sat down and like, Yo, historically you worn a

611
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 1: lot of pants suits, has your you know, a wardrobe

612
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 1: and inspired by Steve Harvey, you know what I mean. Like,

613
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, you were in Brooklyn the other night. You

614
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 1: ain't shout out jay Z a big I'm like, are

615
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 1: you gonna pod? Bobby Smurder and Max be like I'm

616
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 1: just fucking with her, you know what I'm saying. And

617
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 1: did you get a sense of a human being when

618
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 1: you're right in front of You're getting a sense of

619
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 1: human being? Absolutely positively did. And I told everybody that

620
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 1: I was like, Yo, Hillary is actually a real person.

621
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 1: It was one point where she had a coughing fit

622
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 1: during the interview. That might happen with me. It might

623
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 1: happen with me. You mean, I'm surprised I having a

624
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 1: coffin figure yet, But stay on Hillary. And I said

625
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 1: to her, I was like, are you sound like you've

626
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 1: been hitting that medicinal? And she was like, shit, I

627
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 1: need something? She said Ship. She was like, Ship, I

628
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 1: need something? Did you say you like they called it?

629
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 1: It's on It's like she said, they it's on the

630
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 1: video if you watch it, Yeah, it's on the video.

631
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 1: So like little stuff like that, you can't fake, you

632
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 1: know what I mean? And she knew what you meant medicinal.

633
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 1: She didn't like to blink out on you and give

634
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 1: you like the fucking not at all, like and and

635
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 1: and it's funny because I asked her because I saw

636
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 1: one time when she said, if I become president, I'm

637
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 1: gonna tell the truth about UFOs. So I bought that

638
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 1: up because I'm really big in the UFOs and extraterrestrials

639
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 1: and all that good ship like that, and um like

640
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 1: mad you at fold websites was hitting me, like I

641
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 1: didn't realize that that's a thing, right, So all these

642
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 1: different UFO outlets wanted me to call in, and it's

643
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 1: all these stories online about Hillary said she's gonna open

644
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 1: it up. God asked her about it. So it's just

645
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 1: interested with those kind of interviews because you really don't

646
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 1: realize what type of worlds you're you're speaking to when

647
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 1: you do these kind of interviews, right, you know what

648
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 1: I mean. And I think that's why a lot of

649
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 1: people know about the Breakfast Club, because we're not I

650
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 1: love interview with anybody, man, Like, if you got interesting story,

651
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk to you, Like you don't have to

652
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 1: just be of the hip hop culture, like I want

653
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 1: to talk to politicians and you know sasquash hunters, like

654
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 1: if you just gotta interesting story, I want to kick

655
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 1: you with you Who who are the like top five

656
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 1: people that you have not interviewed, Like who's the people

657
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 1: on your list now? And be like I want bump.

658
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 1: That's always an interesting question, man, because I really honestly haven't.

659
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 1: I don't think about it like this is one of

660
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 1: those things when you see it on the like wow,

661
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 1: so now latents coming here. Michael Gladwell wants to come

662
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 1: to the Breath Club like you know what I mean. Like,

663
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 1: and because these are people that I'm I'm huge fans

664
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 1: of you. I read I've read all Malcolm Gladwell. So

665
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 1: when I see them wanting to come to the Birthleay Club,

666
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh wow, And then it hits me like yeah,

667
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 1: I do want to talk to that person, right like,

668
00:30:56,520 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 1: but there's there's really nobody I sitting around like yeah,

669
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 1: I can't wait to the build with that person. That's

670
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 1: an interesting question. The answer is that a political answer?

671
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 1: You're dead serious, dead serious, Like I honestly don't think

672
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 1: about it, like I've I've never sat around like yeah,

673
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 1: I want to talk to this person, you know what

674
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 1: I mean. Like it's like somebody like, for example, Dick Gregory, Right,

675
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 1: remember somebody emailing me like Dick Gregor wants to come

676
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 1: on to the Breakfast Club. And I'm like, he's reaching

677
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 1: out to you. Yeah, And I'm like, hell yeah, I

678
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 1: think he was doing Caroline. Maybe it was Greg Chas,

679
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 1: Maybe somebody made somebody Caroline. I'm like, hell yeah, I

680
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 1: want to talk to Dick Gregory. But you gotta think

681
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 1: these are people who aren't even in the realm of

682
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 1: my possibility to think the interview. I've been doing there

683
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 1: clubs seven years. I never thought I had to sit

684
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 1: down I was sitting down with Dick Gregory. I never

685
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 1: thought about it, you know what I mean. I just

686
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 1: I just never crossed my I never thought I would

687
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 1: interview Hillary. I didn't think that that was something that

688
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 1: was gonna happen. But when you see it on the

689
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 1: guest list so you get to request for it, You're like,

690
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 1: hell yeah, I've been waiting to sit down and talk

691
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 1: to that persons do And what about the Wackis interviews

692
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 1: you were telling you you were saying, it's always the

693
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 1: young boys man who who was it used did something

694
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: to me? When I show you the other day the

695
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 1: there was a YouTube dude. Oh Jake Paul Who who?

696
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 1: So he comes in and what I don't know who

697
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 1: the funk that is? Yeah, he's a twenty year old

698
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 1: YouTube guy. I really still don't know what he does.

699
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 1: I don't know if he does music, orf he's one

700
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 1: of those guys that does stunts. But he's got this large,

701
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 1: massive YouTube following, like tim million follows on Instagram, and

702
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 1: it's like, yo, he's just I mean, I don't I didn't.

703
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 1: I don't dislike him. I still don't dislike him. You know.

704
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 1: I actually said that when he left. I was like,

705
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 1: I didn't think you weren't. You weren't to douche that

706
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 1: I thought you was gonna be do she but not

707
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 1: a total dude, know what I'm saying. So it's just

708
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 1: like when he sat down, he was just on some

709
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 1: ship like no, um, yeah, bring it, Charlotte Mane, bring it.

710
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I don't know what the funk you are? Right?

711
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 1: And then you know, when I was interviewing him and

712
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 1: asking him certain questions based off the research I had done,

713
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 1: He's like, you're being aggressive Hey, bro, I don't know you,

714
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 1: and he's like, you know what you're doing? Like, I

715
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 1: don't know you all the motherfucker's I'm asking you about.

716
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, So like, please don't think

717
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 1: this is personal. Don't flatter yourself. So like those guys

718
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 1: like that, it's like, yeah, I mean that's why I said,

719
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 1: like I love the youth, you know what I'm saying.

720
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 1: But I'm not the guy that's gonna sit around and

721
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 1: pretend like I know what's going on with the youth.

722
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 1: I don't think that's I don't think that's you know, genuine,

723
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like first time my interview

724
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 1: Chance to rapper, I'm not even gonna front. I didn't

725
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 1: listen to Chance because his CD was called Acid Rap,

726
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 1: So I dismissed that ship from the gate. I'm like,

727
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 1: I'm not listening to this ship. I don't I want

728
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 1: to hear another drug dout rapper. But I did myself

729
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 1: a disservice because he's the total opposite of everything I

730
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 1: thought he was. It was like when he came to

731
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 1: do an interview to promote his album Surf with his

732
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 1: man Donnie Trumpet, I told him that but that was

733
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 1: such a great conversation because it was a sense of discovery,

734
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 1: Like I'm the guy that will tell you straight up

735
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 1: man and my book Black Privilege. I have a principle

736
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 1: give people to credit they deserve for being stupid, including yourself.

737
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 1: That means to know it all, knows nothing. I never

738
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 1: act like I know it all. I'm always I always

739
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 1: got this childlike sense of discovery. So if I feel

740
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 1: this way about you, I'm just gonna tell you exactly

741
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 1: how I feel, and then you can tell me if

742
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 1: I'm full of ship, if I'm stupid and night. And

743
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 1: that's what Chance did that day. I was stupid because

744
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 1: I didn't do my research. And that's fine. Did he

745
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 1: say that he say that to you, Yeah he didn't.

746
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 1: He just but I just I knew I was stupid

747
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 1: in it right because I was judging a book by

748
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,319
Speaker 1: its cover, album by its cover in this instance. You know,

749
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 1: for me, I'm not a fan of his. I met him.

750
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,800
Speaker 1: He's nice, I know he's positive. I know he's super positive.

751
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 1: Like the music itself, I'm like Nope. For me, I

752
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 1: like my ship rough rugging and raw straight the funk up,

753
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:30,839
Speaker 1: like I need that smack, like like I like that,

754
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, is it something like you've had

755
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,919
Speaker 1: a sort of a more open palette to hip hop

756
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 1: or if you had to learn it or you sort

757
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 1: of forced yourself, Like, Yo, I can't just not everything's

758
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,839
Speaker 1: gonna be fucking you know our ship. Not everything's gonna

759
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 1: be Woo tang. Not everything's gonna be tried. Not everything's

760
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 1: gonna be rock can like, because because you have to sort,

761
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,320
Speaker 1: you can't just be this sucks, this sucks, This sucks,

762
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 1: this sucks. Will you be on the radio in New

763
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 1: York City? Will you hit it on the head. I

764
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 1: gotta I gotta open pallette. And the reason I got

765
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 1: open pallettes because I'm from Monks going to South Carolina,

766
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 1: and you know I'm from South Carolina. South Carolina didn't

767
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 1: have its own music like you from New York. So

768
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 1: you grew up on Tribe and Wu Tang and Hold

769
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 1: and Biggie and all of this ship that you can

770
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 1: relate to. I didn't have that in South Carolina. So

771
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,800
Speaker 1: in South Carolina we listened to everything. I was listening

772
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 1: to the up North ship, I was listening to the

773
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,479
Speaker 1: West Cood Ship. Of course, when you know down South

774
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 1: started bubble, and we were listening to that, like we

775
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 1: were listening to the Outcast early on and Goodie Mob,

776
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 1: Like we listened to everything, the stuff that was going

777
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 1: on in Texas to ghetto boys and that. Like I

778
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 1: we literally listened to everything. So being that I had

779
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 1: such an open palette, that's just something that carried on

780
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 1: me as I got older. Like even now, a lot

781
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 1: of the stuff that people say is whack, I can

782
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 1: dig it because it reminds me of stuff I grew

783
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 1: up on. I love twenty one Savage, I love Kodak Black,

784
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 1: I can I can get with the me. You genuinely

785
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 1: get that ship. Like like when I said get it,

786
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, but get it. I don't

787
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 1: feel it, but I get it. It's a difference. What

788
00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 1: do you mean? I was talking to uh, what's the

789
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:04,399
Speaker 1: brother that did Juicy Fruit and to Tape and two mates.

790
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 1: He was on the Breakfast Club this morning, and yeah,

791
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 1: he said that. He said that you you you hear

792
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,720
Speaker 1: music three ways. You hear it with your ears, your heart,

793
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 1: in your body. You know what I'm saying. So I

794
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 1: think a lot of this stuff in this generation. Tony

795
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 1: want Savage, Kodak black uh you know future and stuff

796
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,919
Speaker 1: that I mean, like I hear all my ears so

797
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 1: sonically I like it, but I don't hear it with

798
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 1: my heart on my body. You know what I'm saying,

799
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 1: mob deep, I hate that with my heart out cast,

800
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 1: I hate that with my heart. Wou tang, I hate

801
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 1: that with my heart. Like that's that's different, you know

802
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 1: what I mean. You're able to sort of um digest

803
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 1: it if you're just hearing it with your ears. Because

804
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 1: for me, I'm like, yo, I try I listen to

805
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 1: the ship and I'm not like I want to hear

806
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 1: a new ship, but I'm like, I just it's a

807
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:51,919
Speaker 1: different I don't know what's a different palpitation. I don't

808
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:53,479
Speaker 1: know what the funk it is. I just don't feel

809
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 1: it like I mean, I listen to that stuff when

810
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 1: I'm in the gym, you know what I'm saying, Like

811
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 1: when I'm in the gym, like it's it's rare that

812
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 1: I listened to something now and I feel it like

813
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 1: like this year, you know, I felt Rhapsody Rapsody as

814
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 1: a young lady from North Carolina, you like, I feel

815
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,360
Speaker 1: her with my ears heard and body like that's just

816
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 1: one of those ones you put in those smack as

817
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 1: you're talking about like ohoh, and she's socially conscious, she's

818
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 1: just dope. Um the prints I felt that my body

819
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 1: and my heart, you know what I mean, Like like

820
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 1: those are dope ass, dope ass albums. So it's just like, yeah,

821
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 1: a lot of the new stuff I hear, you know

822
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 1: what I mean, I think I think it's dope. It

823
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 1: reminds me of old three six Mafield. I got traject pad,

824
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 1: Like I remember Jeezy when he was had the screeches

825
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 1: watching mixtape and he used to come to the main

826
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 1: event in Columbia, South Carolina and nobody was there, Like

827
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like I saw all of

828
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 1: those movements grow. I remember t I coming through with

829
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: the Great Champion HOODI he didn't have a deal after

830
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 1: he got dropped from uh the face I think it was,

831
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 1: and giving me twenty four's on white labels, and I'm

832
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 1: playing that for him, like I saw the rise of

833
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,840
Speaker 1: all of this. So with me, man, that's it. I

834
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,360
Speaker 1: always take offence to New York is just dismissing the

835
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 1: South because I remember when they booed outcast here right

836
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 1: at the Sauce Award, which was a very uh it's

837
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 1: a very it's a moment people don't speak on, but

838
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 1: that that was a very pivotal Souce Awards speak on

839
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 1: that because that that was when Sugar Knight came out

840
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Speaker 1: I didn't realize that was the same time, the same

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Speaker 1: Go to Casper dot com slash Rappaport, Tommy Loren what

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Speaker 1: is your fucking story? How did you meet her? And

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Speaker 1: like where are you at with her now? Because somebody

897
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 1: said to me the other day and I was like, yeah,

898
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 1: you're fucking right, Like in the last we're in December,

899
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Speaker 1: the last twelve months, the world as we know it

900
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Speaker 1: before has changed, and hopefully it doesn't get any worse.

901
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:42,360
Speaker 1: But like I feel like right now, it's like I

902
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 1: don't care about before. Okay, you voted for Trump, your taxes,

903
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Speaker 1: your gun rights, whatever the funk you were thinking. After

904
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 1: all we've been through in the last year, If you

905
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 1: still funk with Donald Trump, I don't care if it's

906
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:56,360
Speaker 1: his wife, I don't care if it's his fucking daughters,

907
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 1: his fucking son, A little all after you all you

908
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 1: fun all the ship that's happened. How can you still

909
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 1: stand by this motherfucker and seeing this fucking blonde head,

910
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 1: big tooth, fucking chick up there just yapping away. She's

911
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 1: like she's always talking about sexual predators. I'm like, if

912
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 1: you've been alone with Trump, like he would have a

913
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 1: fucking field day with you, Like if he caught you alone,

914
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 1: he'd be talking that wild ship with you. She didn't

915
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Speaker 1: make wine and look pg even to grab the pussy.

916
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 1: All his greatest hits would come out and I'm like,

917
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 1: who is this fucking girl? Yeah, I met her via Twitter.

918
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: And the reason I met her via Twitter is because

919
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 1: one day I was on Twitter and everybody started tweeting

920
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Speaker 1: me like, yeah, you gotta get this girl, Tommy Tommy,

921
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Speaker 1: Lauren donkey to day, I've never even heard of her,

922
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:38,320
Speaker 1: and I was like, what did she do? And it

923
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,760
Speaker 1: was like, she went in on Beyonce and the Black Panthers.

924
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 1: So I went to go look because it was right

925
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 1: after Beyonce did uh halftime performance in the Super Bowl.

926
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Speaker 1: She just went in on the Black Panthers. Was calling

927
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Speaker 1: the Black Panthers the terrorists organization and this and that,

928
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 1: and you know, Beyonce's performance was anti police. So I

929
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:56,360
Speaker 1: gave her a donkey today. When I gave her a

930
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 1: donkey today, her show, I think at the time she

931
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 1: was on the Blaze Network. They reached out to me

932
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 1: to come beyond her show to discuss and I was

933
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 1: cool with that because I'm all about, you know, going

934
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:10,399
Speaker 1: on these people's platforms and challenging the narratives. I don't

935
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 1: want to say changed there now is because yo, man,

936
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,240
Speaker 1: you're never gonna change the native of a racist anyway,

937
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 1: or misogynists or sexist or the way they want to

938
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 1: see you is how they want to see you. But

939
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Speaker 1: if I go on this platform, somebody watching, you know,

940
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 1: might might might get sparked, you know what I mean?

941
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 1: So I went on there and I challenged her her

942
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,800
Speaker 1: narrative of Beyonce and the Black Panthers, and I screwed

943
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,240
Speaker 1: her on who the Black Panthers really were, and screwed

944
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 1: her on what Beyonce was doing. Beyonce's performance wasn't anti police,

945
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 1: it was anti police brutality, Like how can you be

946
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Speaker 1: an American and be against be against this? And um.

947
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Speaker 1: From there, I hadn't spoke to her in a while.

948
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Speaker 1: You know, you just did the show. I did the

949
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Speaker 1: show and kept it moving, and then I don't know

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Speaker 1: how we ended up exchanging emails. I think I think

951
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 1: her producer somebody might have hit me up and we

952
00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 1: exchanged emails, and I remember having a conversation with her saying, look, man,

953
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Speaker 1: if this is really you cool, you know what I'm saying,

954
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 1: if you really believe the things is just saying if

955
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 1: if this is really the rhetoric that you want to spell,

956
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:10,919
Speaker 1: because this is truly how you feel in your heart,

957
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 1: I don't got a problem with that. You know what

958
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I don't agree with it, but I don't

959
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 1: have a problem if it's really you. But if you're

960
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 1: just doing this because it's getting you hits and it's

961
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Speaker 1: getting you lights, and it's getting you retweets, you're gonna

962
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 1: crash and burn, right And she was like, no, this

963
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 1: is how I really feel. Blah, they blow this in

964
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Speaker 1: that Now the problem came in. She came to New York.

965
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:31,439
Speaker 1: She never used to come to New York. She came

966
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Speaker 1: to New York. She was doing the Daily Show with

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Speaker 1: Trevor Noah. She wanted to do the Breathash Club. She

968
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:36,439
Speaker 1: had been said she wanted to do the Breakast Club

969
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 1: for months. I'm like cool. She did Trevor Noah Show.

970
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 1: She had a poor showing on Trevor Noah, so the

971
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 1: Blaze pulled her. Didn't want her to do the Breakfast Club.

972
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 1: Now that day I had to meet I supposed to

973
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 1: have a meeting with her at Viacom anyway, because somebody

974
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 1: at Viacom thought it would be a good idea for

975
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Speaker 1: me and her to do a show. I wasn't gonna

976
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:56,360
Speaker 1: do that. Every every woman in the building with like Charlemagne,

977
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 1: you better fucking not. I was like, I'm not even

978
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 1: thinking about it, but if you listen to the breakfast

979
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:03,839
Speaker 1: club that day, I was like, yo, you know, um,

980
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 1: I'm supposed to have a meeting with her later. She

981
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 1: canceled on the She cancels on us, but meeting with

982
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 1: her later and he was like, yo, you should go

983
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 1: talk to her, you know what, I mean, to see

984
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 1: where her head is at. So we was literally in

985
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 1: a meeting. It was me, her, her two agents, my

986
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 1: guy Paul Richie from Viacom, and we was just having

987
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 1: a conversation and I told her, I said, yo, I

988
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 1: think that a lot of your rhetoric is dangerous for

989
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 1: black people. You know what I mean. This is just

990
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:26,879
Speaker 1: in a meeting having a conversation because I'm really trying

991
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 1: to see her head and I want to see if

992
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:29,760
Speaker 1: this is really her. I'm like, Yo, your a rhetoric

993
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,800
Speaker 1: is very dangerous. She said why and I said, because

994
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:34,840
Speaker 1: the way you paint the Black Lives Matter is a

995
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 1: terrorists organization. And then she explained to me why she

996
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 1: feels like BLM is a terrorists organization. She said that

997
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 1: she was in Dallas that night where that guy went

998
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:46,479
Speaker 1: rolled and shot all of those cops. And she said

999
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 1: that her parents were getting death threats and she was

1000
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 1: getting death threats. And she kept referencing this video with

1001
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 1: some people who were marching saying what do we want

1002
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 1: dead cops or something like that, and they were saying

1003
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 1: they were members of BLM. And I was like, you're

1004
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:00,879
Speaker 1: a Trump supporter, right, She said yeah, And I said,

1005
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 1: you think all Trump supporters are race She she she said, no,

1006
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 1: some of us just want to drain the swamp and

1007
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 1: with tie to government. But when I do go to

1008
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 1: these you know, Trump rallies, there's a lot of people

1009
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 1: there are a straight up racist. So I said, but

1010
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:13,319
Speaker 1: you can see the difference. She said yeah. So I said,

1011
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 1: how come you can see the nuance and Trump supporters

1012
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 1: but can't see the nuance in BLM. You know what

1013
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Everybody in BLM don't want to kill cops.

1014
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:22,359
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, Everybody in BLM don't want

1015
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 1: to see cops dead. Some people in BLM just want justice.

1016
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 1: They understand that the injustice everywhere the threat of justice everywhere.

1017
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:30,439
Speaker 1: They just want these cops to be held accountable when

1018
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 1: they commit these, you know, under unjust murders. And she

1019
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 1: just wouldn't grasp that concept. She wouldn't grasp what you

1020
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 1: just she wouldn't grasp it. And literally, that's one of

1021
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 1: the smartest things. Basic, bare bone, basic, like slow pitch

1022
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 1: things like that. Was very fucking smart, clear and articulate.

1023
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 1: She said, it's not the same thing, and her agent

1024
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 1: was like her agent was like, no, it is, And

1025
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:58,919
Speaker 1: Paul Richard was like, no, it's absolutely the same thing. Yeah,

1026
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 1: And he's all white guys, by the way, three white

1027
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 1: guys all said the same exact thing to her. They're like,

1028
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 1: h And I couldn't understand if she was just being

1029
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 1: a contrarian because we were in the room. See a

1030
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:10,919
Speaker 1: ding batman. Is she like the Pamela Anderson because she's

1031
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 1: not dope? I think these old Republicans like, oh, look

1032
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:18,240
Speaker 1: at she's not. She's a flat ass, big tooth, bleached punt.

1033
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 1: I can't fucking stand her ass. Yeah, I and like

1034
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 1: she's like walking around like she's like I core an

1035
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 1: arian pin up girl. Yeah. I don't think she's I

1036
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:29,319
Speaker 1: don't think she's smart, bright and plus. Like I said,

1037
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 1: I don't believe her because you know, I went back

1038
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:32,720
Speaker 1: and I watched like a lot of her old stuff

1039
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:35,359
Speaker 1: in college. She was more liberal. No, I think that.

1040
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 1: I think that she was on the blaze. She did

1041
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 1: an interview, she did a piece about Barack Obama that

1042
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:42,799
Speaker 1: went viral, and I think she just stuck with that

1043
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,760
Speaker 1: because it was working for her, you know. And everybody

1044
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 1: got mad at me because they caught us coming out

1045
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:51,879
Speaker 1: of that meeting at Yeah, and it was like, Yo,

1046
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 1: Charlette mayn you you you you like, it was like, Yo,

1047
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Speaker 1: what's going on here? Yeah, I'll be honest with you.

1048
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Speaker 1: I just something I wasn't taking serious. I was like, Yo,

1049
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 1: black dicks matter, I'm saying like I was just like

1050
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 1: I honestly, I didn't. I didn't realize. I guess the

1051
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:09,399
Speaker 1: magnitude of the situation, you know, is that a game

1052
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:11,360
Speaker 1: changing for you to like sort of like the Internet

1053
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:13,400
Speaker 1: of it all and the clip of it all was

1054
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:15,359
Speaker 1: the Instagram of it all. It was, but it wasn't

1055
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 1: even that. Like I made it worse because I took

1056
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 1: a picture with her, and I put the picture in

1057
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 1: black and white and I go do you see color?

1058
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 1: And I put laughing emojis. And the reason I did

1059
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 1: that because when she was on Trevor Nowhere show, she

1060
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 1: was like, she don't see color, but Trevor No, it

1061
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 1: was like, so what do you do when you're at

1062
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 1: a traffic Like I just thought that she was funny.

1063
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 1: So I just thought I was being witty when I

1064
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:33,400
Speaker 1: posted this caption and thought people would get it. So

1065
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 1: they were mad about that, and then they saw the

1066
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 1: video of us coming out the building, not knowing the context,

1067
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 1: not knowing that I just like, I'm not doing the

1068
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 1: show with you, you know what I mean, acting like

1069
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 1: that you had a meeting at a meeting which you

1070
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 1: just couldn't meet. Yeah, And but so they saw that.

1071
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 1: But then like a couple of days later, I literally

1072
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 1: I posted online. I said, Yo, it would be doping

1073
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:53,840
Speaker 1: for woke woman of color, you know, created a platform

1074
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 1: to become a voice in control our narrative the way

1075
00:48:56,560 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 1: Tommy Lauren did. Now, what I was talking about was infrastructure.

1076
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 1: I'm like, y'all want that infrastructure because you know, even

1077
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 1: when she got fired, she was still posting videos on

1078
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 1: her Facebook and she was getting hundreds of thousands of

1079
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 1: you I'm like, we need that kind of infrastructure for

1080
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:10,759
Speaker 1: all people. But everybody thought I was trying to make

1081
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 1: a comparison between black women and Tommy Long. So that

1082
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:18,440
Speaker 1: was just all bad. And I mean, you know, my

1083
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 1: community really gave it to me and rightfully, so like

1084
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:24,360
Speaker 1: I'm not above criticism from my community, you know what

1085
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, and that's why I said, I was

1086
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 1: just another example of like sometimes you gotta step back,

1087
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:31,799
Speaker 1: get out of your own way, put your ego to

1088
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 1: the side, and actually observe what you just did. You

1089
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I think a lot of people

1090
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:39,759
Speaker 1: aren't capable of being self away. I was self aware

1091
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:41,319
Speaker 1: in that moment, like I was like, you know what,

1092
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:44,359
Speaker 1: I definitely funk that one up. I didn't execute that one. Well,

1093
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:46,479
Speaker 1: so this particular situation, did you go on the radio

1094
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:49,360
Speaker 1: and acknowledge it, or you go on Twitter acknowledge it,

1095
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:51,439
Speaker 1: or you do the whole sort of thing. Well, I try. Well,

1096
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 1: the funny thing about it is on Twitter, I had

1097
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 1: literally put out six to seven tweets about this one situation.

1098
00:49:58,080 --> 00:49:59,839
Speaker 1: But but by the time you come back to your phone,

1099
00:49:59,880 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 1: you like, oh, ship, that one first tweet woke when

1100
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 1: the color went everywhere. That's the one that goes viral.

1101
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:09,479
Speaker 1: So nobody sees you explaining exactly what you're talking about

1102
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 1: as far as infrastructure, Like I was even giving them examples,

1103
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 1: Like I was like, yo, like the young Turks, we

1104
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:15,800
Speaker 1: need something like this, you know what I'm saying, Like

1105
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 1: I was explaining what I meant by that, but it

1106
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:20,279
Speaker 1: was already off and running. So just the next day

1107
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:22,320
Speaker 1: on the radio, Yeah, yeah, open up the phone lines,

1108
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 1: you know, gave myself donkey the day, you know, like

1109
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 1: basically could have I could have explained it better, you know,

1110
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 1: And that to me, I'm not I'm not above that,

1111
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 1: Like I'm not above doing stuff like that, Like you're

1112
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 1: not gonna get it right all the time, Like you're

1113
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 1: just not And I'm not trying to get it right

1114
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 1: all the time. I'm just being me. And I think

1115
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 1: that's one thing that we have to start doing as

1116
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 1: human beings in this area. We like to throw the

1117
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 1: baby out with the bath water. Somebody says one thing

1118
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:46,800
Speaker 1: you don't agree with sucking over and all of a sudden,

1119
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 1: fuck you, I'm like, yo, I've been here the whole

1120
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 1: time on the front lines with y'all. Y'all know my heart,

1121
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:53,880
Speaker 1: y'all know why I stand. But you're mad at me

1122
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 1: just because I I didn't play this one right, or

1123
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 1: I didn't say this the way you want me to

1124
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:00,880
Speaker 1: say it exactly like I ain't got time for that

1125
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 1: ship basically right now. I know it's tough because it's

1126
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 1: like we have more forms for for everybody Joe Schmo,

1127
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 1: you mean, and everybody in between and the higher lower

1128
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:14,279
Speaker 1: in between to say more, but then like you gotta

1129
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:17,319
Speaker 1: fucking phrase it right, watch right, Like people, you could

1130
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:20,320
Speaker 1: put a tweet out, misspell something you can't spell, you

1131
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:22,760
Speaker 1: dumb funk, or you could say something and them ships

1132
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 1: ain't going away, motherfucker's a screensheet, and it's it's uh,

1133
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 1: that's not the way life works. Though I know, no

1134
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:31,759
Speaker 1: one's perfect. Nobody's perfect. People gonna make mistakes, people gonna

1135
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 1: say things you don't agree with. That's why I love

1136
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 1: when like I'm having a conversation with somebody and they'll

1137
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 1: say something to me, like you know, Charlotta Magne, I

1138
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 1: don't always agree with you, but you'll be saying some

1139
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 1: real ship. Are you true to yourself? You're always honest?

1140
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:45,799
Speaker 1: That's that's it. That's at the end of the day.

1141
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:48,399
Speaker 1: That is it. I'm not always gonna say the right

1142
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:50,239
Speaker 1: thing or the thing that you agree with, but I'm

1143
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 1: always gonna be true to self, who always says the

1144
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 1: right thing. And in a bad fight, everybody's trying to

1145
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 1: always say the right thing. Now because everybody's playing to

1146
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 1: the choir, you know what I'm saying, Like everybody's all.

1147
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 1: Everybody's that we we know we got these amen coins.

1148
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 1: Isn't everybody wants to get those amens. I don't want

1149
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 1: to get those amens. I just want to say what

1150
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 1: the funk I feel like. If you agree with it, cool,

1151
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:12,840
Speaker 1: If you disagree, fine, I don't don't bother me either way. Trump,

1152
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 1: have you ever come across him in New York, because,

1153
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:17,760
Speaker 1: like I used, I saw him at at Puffy's first

1154
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:19,880
Speaker 1: big party. I don't remember what year was, it was

1155
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 1: like the first time, like like it wasn't just a

1156
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 1: Puffy party at a club or a big club. It

1157
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 1: was down in Wall Street, you know, and I remember

1158
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 1: seeing I mean every fucking body was there, everybody from

1159
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 1: hip hop, Jeter, you know, with Mariah carry. I mean,

1160
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 1: I had my little camera, like this is like film

1161
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 1: cameras I saw him. I've seen him. Have you ever

1162
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 1: seen him in real life? Never? Never in any New

1163
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 1: York ship, never ever, never ran any down Trump at all?

1164
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 1: How demoralizing, disappointing, Like where where's your head at with it?

1165
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 1: Because when I saw him the other day at the

1166
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 1: Civil Rights Museum, like he was like the last place

1167
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:58,840
Speaker 1: he wanted to be. He wasn't talking his ship, he

1168
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 1: was slearn his fucking words. It was eleven ten in

1169
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:04,359
Speaker 1: the morning, and I'm just like, this is this is

1170
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 1: just like yo, Like I'm not even I'm not even

1171
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 1: I don't even know ship about politics, but I know

1172
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 1: this motherfucker is not kosher. I think, uh, I mean yeah,

1173
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 1: I agree with everything he's just saying. I think that

1174
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 1: he's a bigot, you know. I think that he's he's

1175
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:20,320
Speaker 1: he's prejudiced in some way, shape or form. And I

1176
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 1: don't even I don't even know if it's just as

1177
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:25,319
Speaker 1: simple as a white black prejudice. I think it's more

1178
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:29,879
Speaker 1: like an elitist, you know what I'm saying, billionaire I'm

1179
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 1: better than everybody that's poor, you know, type type prejudice.

1180
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 1: But I definitely feel like it's a it's it's definitely

1181
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 1: a lot of a white, white supremacy within him. Do

1182
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 1: you think he's doing the same thing like Toma Loren

1183
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 1: is doing in terms of sort of this works I'm

1184
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 1: gonna go with it, or you think it's genuine? No,

1185
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 1: I definitely think it's genuine. I think I definitely think

1186
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 1: it's genuine because I don't think that you can You can't,

1187
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 1: you can't face something like this. And plus you look

1188
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:55,880
Speaker 1: at you look at like the things that his father

1189
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:58,360
Speaker 1: was into, like getting the rest of the clan rally

1190
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:01,400
Speaker 1: back in the day. You think of his history of

1191
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 1: like housing discrimination, you know, with the Trump towels or whatever,

1192
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 1: like like, yeah, I definitely think this is this is

1193
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 1: who Trump is. But I donna be honest with you, man,

1194
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:11,880
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna end up being one of the

1195
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 1: best things that ever happened to America. Why because I

1196
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 1: believe in building and destroying. You know, I believe to

1197
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:19,760
Speaker 1: build is that ad onto your life positively, step by step,

1198
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:22,319
Speaker 1: to destroy, to tear down everything that's negative in your SIGHTE.

1199
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 1: But like, I feel like Donald Trump has pulled the

1200
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 1: mask off of America. Motherfucker has been fronting and pretending

1201
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 1: for a long time. You've been fronting about your prejudices.

1202
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:35,839
Speaker 1: You've been a friend about your racism, your sexism, Yeah,

1203
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 1: your homophobia, you know what I'm saying, Your anti semitism,

1204
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 1: yeahs semitism, like you've been asking me. I barely speak

1205
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:48,719
Speaker 1: the language what everybody's been fronting on it. Now you

1206
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 1: know who's who. I don't have a problem knowing who's who.

1207
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:54,399
Speaker 1: Let me know who's who. I don't want to, you know,

1208
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:58,560
Speaker 1: be in a restaurant and wonder why I'm getting bad service. Funk.

1209
00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 1: All that covert racism, Give the old vert ship, man.

1210
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:02,920
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, All that over at Homo,

1211
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 1: that covert homophobia, Give me the old vert ship. Like,

1212
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:08,879
Speaker 1: I want to know how you really feel about you know,

1213
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:11,799
Speaker 1: whatever it is. I maybe like I like that and

1214
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:13,319
Speaker 1: I think that you know, right now, you see a

1215
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:16,400
Speaker 1: lot of us empowering ourselves. Man, Like I look at

1216
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 1: the way, like we always we were talking about Hillary

1217
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 1: being uh, you know, president and what that would have

1218
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 1: done for women. I think it would have done for

1219
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 1: women the same thing but Rock being president did for blacks,

1220
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:31,440
Speaker 1: which make us comfortable, make us feel like she is sweet,

1221
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 1: when it really wasn't sweet, you know what I'm saying.

1222
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:35,320
Speaker 1: But Rock was just a simple I got love for

1223
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:37,440
Speaker 1: a Rock, you know, I voted for him twice. But

1224
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 1: he was just as symbol, you know what I'm saying.

1225
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 1: Like we were just happy to have a black president

1226
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 1: in the White House. We didn't go off there and

1227
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:45,839
Speaker 1: get nothing done, you know what I'm saying. We didn't

1228
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 1: go up there and demand anything, like we were just

1229
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 1: happy with that symbol. I think I think it would

1230
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:51,799
Speaker 1: have been the same thing for women. I think being

1231
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 1: that women saw, you know, how, how how this unqualified

1232
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 1: piece of ship individual became President of the United States

1233
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 1: America over the most qualified candidate in history, who just

1234
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:07,880
Speaker 1: happened to be a woman. When they saw that thing,

1235
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 1: was like, oh fuck no. And if you go from

1236
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:12,920
Speaker 1: the from the start of the year, women just been

1237
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:15,719
Speaker 1: on their ship, from the Women's March to to to

1238
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:18,240
Speaker 1: two women rising in the in the in the media

1239
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:21,400
Speaker 1: world like Angela right to you know, the rise of

1240
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:24,400
Speaker 1: activists like Jamika Mallory and Linda Sausa a and common

1241
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 1: pereds like even just like you look in pop culture,

1242
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 1: the Tiffany Addases and the Cardi B's, the scissors, like

1243
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 1: people love like women are being pushed to the forefront

1244
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:36,839
Speaker 1: in a way we've never seen, especially women of color.

1245
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 1: I don't think that happens if Hillary gets in the

1246
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:40,960
Speaker 1: White House. I got you, and be honest with you,

1247
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:42,839
Speaker 1: I don't know if that happens. That makes sense. That's

1248
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:44,759
Speaker 1: good ship. Um all right, I'm gonna let you go

1249
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:47,279
Speaker 1: in a minute. Cardi b you said you you can't

1250
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 1: predict it. I mean, no one could predict this sort

1251
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 1: of success. But you knew she was special. I knew

1252
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:54,400
Speaker 1: she was a star absolutely, Like I've been bringing Cardio

1253
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 1: on Cardis like with three Now she's twenty three years old.

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00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 1: She's young as he she' been on the Breath Club.

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00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:02,400
Speaker 1: She was like nineteen, you know what I'm saying, nineteen

1256
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:06,399
Speaker 1: hip hop now before loving it? Where was she before?

1257
00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 1: On Instagram? She was one of those instagrams and stations.

1258
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:12,239
Speaker 1: That's when I saw her, and like, I'm the type

1259
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:14,759
Speaker 1: of person man, I don't care about delivery because I'm

1260
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 1: from the country. I didn't go to college. You know

1261
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I gotta fucking lisp. I can't pronounce words.

1262
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:20,919
Speaker 1: I say straight, screeched, strong, you know what I'm saying.

1263
00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 1: So I don't worry about, like you know, somebody's educational

1264
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 1: background or what their delivery is. I listen to what

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00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 1: the funk they're saying. So CARDI used to be on

1266
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 1: Instagram saying things like, look, man, living in New York

1267
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 1: is hard. You know what I'm saying. If you live

1268
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 1: in New York and you make minimum ways, you probably

1269
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 1: bring home and fifty dollars a week. You know what

1270
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 1: I'm saying. You can't pay no fucking bills of twenty

1271
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:39,480
Speaker 1: fifty dollars a week. Like, So, if you don't want

1272
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 1: to be out here struggling having to script subdict for

1273
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:43,920
Speaker 1: money like me, you go a bitches better stay in school,

1274
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 1: sucking education. Like that's a great p s A. You

1275
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You may not agree with what

1276
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 1: she's saying, but what she's saying is absolutely motherfucking real.

1277
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 1: So it's like little things like that is what what

1278
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 1: would caught my attention. I was just like, Yo, this

1279
00:57:57,560 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 1: girl speaking truth to power, regless of how, regardless of

1280
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 1: if you agree how she's speaking, She's speaking truth to power.

1281
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 1: So I was like, Yo, this girl's a start. And

1282
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:07,040
Speaker 1: I used to always be saying, like CARDI be for

1283
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:10,640
Speaker 1: President cardis star for for all of this, and everyone like,

1284
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 1: you know, you're trolling, you trolling, you trolling. So when

1285
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 1: she got on Love and Hip Hop, I was super

1286
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:17,440
Speaker 1: championing that and then we was playing her song on

1287
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 1: the radio, cheap Ass. We've y like, oh, then you're

1288
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 1: trolling with this Cardi b ship. You're trolling with this ship.

1289
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 1: And now look at it now, you know, I mean,

1290
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 1: that's truly only in America. Absolutely, it's it's an incredible story.

1291
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 1: Donald Trump is a truly is the only in American

1292
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:39,960
Speaker 1: type story. Like everybody talks about Barack Obama and they're like, Yo,

1293
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:42,120
Speaker 1: that's that's the best case of optimism. No, it's not.

1294
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 1: Donald Trump is the best case for optimism. That like,

1295
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:46,440
Speaker 1: I like, I look at Barack and I see his

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00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 1: skin color and like, yeah, you may tell your kids,

1297
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:51,480
Speaker 1: you know, anybody can be president. And it's like, no,

1298
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:54,960
Speaker 1: Barrock got hell of education. Like Barrock went to Harvard

1299
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:58,680
Speaker 1: and Nobel Peace Prizes, and like got well spoken. He

1300
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:00,760
Speaker 1: is he's a great oritic Like it's a lot that

1301
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 1: goes into Barack Obama. Donald Trump is the best case

1302
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:08,200
Speaker 1: of optimism never held. No political office can barely motherfucking talk.

1303
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, not qualified for ship and

1304
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:13,240
Speaker 1: he's the president of United States of America. He's a

1305
00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:16,400
Speaker 1: better case for optimism than Barack Obama. To become Barack Obama,

1306
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:19,280
Speaker 1: you actually gotta put some work in that makes good sense.

1307
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:23,960
Speaker 1: What do you do when let's say a friend like

1308
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:26,000
Speaker 1: I didn't to be honest with you, I didn't even

1309
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 1: see I didn't watch it because I was like, I

1310
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 1: don't want to see it. There was something with DJ

1311
00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:34,520
Speaker 1: Envy uh, with some tweets or text or some ship,

1312
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:37,840
Speaker 1: and then you had to, yeah, well, how do you

1313
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:40,360
Speaker 1: deal with that? That's your man, that's your coworker. How

1314
00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:42,360
Speaker 1: do you as an interviewer, like because people are like,

1315
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 1: oh shit, Like they're like, this is fucking blood in

1316
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:48,439
Speaker 1: the water. These are the two guys that always talk shit.

1317
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:51,360
Speaker 1: You're the fucking instigator. He's sort of like the guy

1318
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:53,960
Speaker 1: who's always throwing the fridge music. How do you deal

1319
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:55,840
Speaker 1: with that? Because honest, to be honest, I didn't even

1320
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 1: watch because I was like, I just didn't want to

1321
00:59:57,880 --> 00:59:59,600
Speaker 1: part of it. So what do you do with that?

1322
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:03,240
Speaker 1: Such washing? We bring that ship right to the radio immediately,

1323
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:07,000
Speaker 1: like the whole show and even still making jokes about it. Now,

1324
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:09,160
Speaker 1: so what stuff you're taking? Do those up your ass?

1325
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:11,800
Speaker 1: And he's like trying to explain, like I don't believe you.

1326
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:13,840
Speaker 1: I think that you're taking dildose up to as like

1327
01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 1: you just is that what you guys? You guys basically

1328
01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:19,439
Speaker 1: have this conversation with him. I mean it was bad

1329
01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:23,440
Speaker 1: fun with him all morning long. Oh it was bad.

1330
01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:26,760
Speaker 1: But did you feel uncomfortable funking with him? No, that's right,

1331
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:29,600
Speaker 1: cause we do it each other, like if I got

1332
01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:32,160
Speaker 1: some ship that's going on. But that was like, yo,

1333
01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:34,080
Speaker 1: that was like talking about that talking that was like

1334
01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:36,280
Speaker 1: in the sweet spot, no pun intending. Yeah, if you're

1335
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:37,840
Speaker 1: coming in and you tell me like, look, I don't

1336
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:40,080
Speaker 1: really want to talk about this, Oh, so it must

1337
01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:43,360
Speaker 1: be true to right, he knew he had to, like

1338
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:47,080
Speaker 1: you got to you gotta acknowledge it, Like why wouldn't you?

1339
01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:49,480
Speaker 1: You gotta sucking acknowledge. So yeah, we I still sucking

1340
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 1: him to that to this day, like to this day,

1341
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:54,120
Speaker 1: Like his wife was on because we did the whole

1342
01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 1: Change for Change thing a couple of weeks ago we

1343
01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:59,440
Speaker 1: raised money for the Gathering for Justice, and his wife

1344
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:01,120
Speaker 1: was on there I was like, so, how much money

1345
01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 1: you are going to donate nine and a half thousand

1346
01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:06,080
Speaker 1: dollars And she was like, I know what joke you're

1347
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:07,600
Speaker 1: trying to make. And I want you to know. My

1348
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:09,640
Speaker 1: man doesn't take nine and a half. He takes ten.

1349
01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:12,760
Speaker 1: My man happen. So it's just funny ship, you know

1350
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:14,800
Speaker 1: what I mean? Like, I'm not why I run from it,

1351
01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:19,600
Speaker 1: the Change for Change projects and all the money. Explain

1352
01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:21,960
Speaker 1: that to the people I listened to the podcast and

1353
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:24,440
Speaker 1: if they could still donate, Well, no, they can't. We're

1354
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:25,960
Speaker 1: actually presenting the check to them. I don't know when

1355
01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:27,440
Speaker 1: this is coming up. We're presenting the checking them this

1356
01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:30,840
Speaker 1: Friday to to the Gathering for Justice organization. And how

1357
01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:33,480
Speaker 1: much money did you guys raise? I think the total

1358
01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:37,560
Speaker 1: is like eight hundred something, eight thirty eight. I don't

1359
01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 1: don't don't count, No, I don't know the exactly, but

1360
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:41,560
Speaker 1: it was eight something And are you like this is

1361
01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:44,360
Speaker 1: fucking like are you guys must be so fucking proud

1362
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:48,240
Speaker 1: of that? Um, Honestly, I haven't stopped to think about it. Uh.

1363
01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:50,040
Speaker 1: It was one of those things that I have been

1364
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:52,000
Speaker 1: working on all year long. Like I first went to

1365
01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:54,840
Speaker 1: uh my heart with the idea over the summer, because

1366
01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:56,880
Speaker 1: you know, my thing is, man, don't tell me how

1367
01:01:56,960 --> 01:01:59,400
Speaker 1: much you love my community, and don't don't don't talk

1368
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:01,360
Speaker 1: to me in the all about the injustices that are

1369
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:03,600
Speaker 1: going on in the African American community. I don't talk

1370
01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:05,440
Speaker 1: to me about how you think it's wrong, what's happened

1371
01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:07,680
Speaker 1: in the Colin Kaebinick, like, let's fucking do something about it,

1372
01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:09,960
Speaker 1: you know. And then I look at uh, you know,

1373
01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:12,000
Speaker 1: I was looking at Colin Kaebinick's No Your Rights Campus,

1374
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:13,840
Speaker 1: an organization that I've been a mentor at. You know,

1375
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:16,920
Speaker 1: I've gone to do mentorship at his camp. Yeah. Absolutely,

1376
01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:19,360
Speaker 1: you you met with him, Yeah, I was my guy.

1377
01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:21,320
Speaker 1: That's had he come on the show. Now you haven't

1378
01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:22,680
Speaker 1: been on the show like I was not. He's not

1379
01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:24,600
Speaker 1: really that type of person. He doesn't. He wants to

1380
01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:26,080
Speaker 1: just do right. He just wants to do the work.

1381
01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:27,440
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. That's it. He wants to

1382
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:28,640
Speaker 1: do the work. Him and him and his girl, Him

1383
01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:30,960
Speaker 1: and his girlfriend. That's uh, me and her are really cool.

1384
01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:33,360
Speaker 1: I mean that's the have been tight for like six

1385
01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:34,880
Speaker 1: years now because that's he used to work for. I

1386
01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:37,600
Speaker 1: Heart and and we both used to work at MTV together,

1387
01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:40,720
Speaker 1: so we was always just like really close. She works

1388
01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:43,200
Speaker 1: and had to any seven not doing afternoons. Um oh

1389
01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:45,040
Speaker 1: I didn't know that. Yeah yeah, yeah she works, had

1390
01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:46,919
Speaker 1: any seven doing afternoon that. I wish she was still

1391
01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:49,480
Speaker 1: with us at I heeart, but you know whatever, But

1392
01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:51,240
Speaker 1: that that's like she's a real good friend of mine.

1393
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:53,840
Speaker 1: I got you, and so I knew when her and

1394
01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:57,480
Speaker 1: Colin first started kicking it and everything. Do you think, well,

1395
01:02:57,480 --> 01:02:59,400
Speaker 1: since you know him like it is, because to me,

1396
01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:01,800
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeo, he's not speaking, he's not saying anything.

1397
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:04,120
Speaker 1: You don't hear any blurbs. There's no fucking podcast, there's

1398
01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:06,440
Speaker 1: no breakfast club, theres no left because he just wants

1399
01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:08,640
Speaker 1: to just he just wants to do the work. Very

1400
01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:11,040
Speaker 1: genuine dude. Man, if he's sitting down with Colin, he's

1401
01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:16,040
Speaker 1: one of those people who's energy presents itself before he

1402
01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:17,760
Speaker 1: even opens his mouth. You know what I'm saying. Like

1403
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:21,840
Speaker 1: he's just a really good dude, you know. And and

1404
01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:25,040
Speaker 1: and like he's always thinking about how can he move

1405
01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:28,000
Speaker 1: the culture forward, Like how can he help people? Like

1406
01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:29,960
Speaker 1: this guy has pledsure to give a million dollars of

1407
01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:32,440
Speaker 1: his own money to various organizations and he's done it

1408
01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:34,320
Speaker 1: and he hasn't even had a job for the past years.

1409
01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:36,080
Speaker 1: And that was that was where my mind set with them.

1410
01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:38,680
Speaker 1: My mindset was like, yo, I see him, you know,

1411
01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:41,720
Speaker 1: taking money out of his own pocket, the Funding Know

1412
01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:43,960
Speaker 1: Your Rights Camp, like, let's raise money for him. And

1413
01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:47,000
Speaker 1: you know the Gathering, I mean the Women's March, you know,

1414
01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:49,800
Speaker 1: Tamika Mallory, Linda saw sort of Calmon Perez like these

1415
01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:53,160
Speaker 1: these these young ladies are really risking their lives and

1416
01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:57,800
Speaker 1: their livelihood for us. Three young three women, three young

1417
01:03:57,840 --> 01:03:59,880
Speaker 1: women out there all the time on the front lines,

1418
01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:02,720
Speaker 1: Like we know, they need resources, they need funding, like

1419
01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:05,160
Speaker 1: people like like Martin Viking Jr. And was just marching

1420
01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:07,840
Speaker 1: back in the day. Now Harry Belafonte them was funding

1421
01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:11,000
Speaker 1: those movements. So those are the two organizations I presented

1422
01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:13,440
Speaker 1: that I wanted to raise money for, and UM at

1423
01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:16,400
Speaker 1: the time, Colin Kaberneck, he wasn't even a nonprofit, you know.

1424
01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:20,760
Speaker 1: And the later on, maybe like after me presenting the idea,

1425
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:22,240
Speaker 1: like I found out a few weeks later that the

1426
01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:25,080
Speaker 1: Gathering for Justice Movement, which was a nonprofit founded by

1427
01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:28,240
Speaker 1: Harry Belafonte. Now all of these organizations were under his

1428
01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:30,919
Speaker 1: own brother for to Know Your Rights Camp, the Women's March,

1429
01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:33,120
Speaker 1: and the Justice League NYC. So that that was just

1430
01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:37,720
Speaker 1: all God putting that together, man, because the defined one

1431
01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:42,040
Speaker 1: organization that represents two organizations that you want to raise

1432
01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:44,680
Speaker 1: money for, and then throwing the Justice League y s.

1433
01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:47,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, this is this is perfect. That was just

1434
01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:49,560
Speaker 1: all God engineering. So I had the idea for the

1435
01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:51,520
Speaker 1: radio thing to be on the air for twenty five hours.

1436
01:04:51,560 --> 01:04:53,880
Speaker 1: We raised like over seven hundred grand and twenty four hours,

1437
01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:57,439
Speaker 1: everybody donated, you know, from Ditty, the will I Am,

1438
01:04:57,640 --> 01:05:01,040
Speaker 1: the eminem the ed sharing, like all of these different people.

1439
01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:05,360
Speaker 1: More importantly, the people stepped up five dollars, ten dollars,

1440
01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:08,360
Speaker 1: twenty hundred dollars, fifty dollars like the people, man. And

1441
01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:09,920
Speaker 1: I was just so dope to me because I always

1442
01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:11,800
Speaker 1: say that where all we need at the end of

1443
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:13,040
Speaker 1: the day, Like I ain't got time to be complaining

1444
01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:15,040
Speaker 1: about no fucking Trump, you know what I'm saying. Like

1445
01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:17,600
Speaker 1: I'm like Jay Z said, government, government, we politic ourselves,

1446
01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:19,200
Speaker 1: Like I ain't got time to be complaining about what

1447
01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:21,280
Speaker 1: they're doing in the white House and how that like,

1448
01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:24,480
Speaker 1: let's let's help ourselves, let's empower ourselves, and that's what

1449
01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:27,240
Speaker 1: we did with the change for Change. I respect that. Um,

1450
01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:30,360
Speaker 1: let me ask you the obligatory top five m c

1451
01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:34,120
Speaker 1: S question, top five groups of questions. But with the

1452
01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:36,520
Speaker 1: obligatory top five m c S question, I want to

1453
01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:40,280
Speaker 1: remove jay Z, remove nas, and you have to be

1454
01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:43,360
Speaker 1: alive because it always jay Z and Nos always take

1455
01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:46,640
Speaker 1: up the list of the top five. So we're removing them.

1456
01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:49,640
Speaker 1: Let's just consider them on everybody's list. And two Packet

1457
01:05:49,720 --> 01:05:53,640
Speaker 1: Biggie essentially are aren't on it because they passed. That's crazy, though,

1458
01:05:53,640 --> 01:05:55,720
Speaker 1: because I always say I got the top seven. But

1459
01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:58,040
Speaker 1: if you take those two out, now it's my top five. Okay,

1460
01:05:58,080 --> 01:06:02,959
Speaker 1: top five, so my top five obligatory obligatory top five

1461
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:05,560
Speaker 1: graded SI scenes of all time for me, yes, and

1462
01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:09,640
Speaker 1: it's interchangeable. Ghost Face Killer is my favorite rapper ever.

1463
01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:11,919
Speaker 1: I like that. Has he come on the Breakfast Club?

1464
01:06:11,960 --> 01:06:14,320
Speaker 1: Ghost has never been on the Breakfast Club And that's

1465
01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:16,960
Speaker 1: my guy. Like I remember the first time I met

1466
01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:18,600
Speaker 1: Ghost when I used to work with Windy Whims. I

1467
01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:20,640
Speaker 1: was drunk. I forgot what we was at or some

1468
01:06:20,680 --> 01:06:23,040
Speaker 1: type of party and ghost came in there. I'm like,

1469
01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:27,240
Speaker 1: ghost fucking love you, man, like you have no idea,

1470
01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:29,200
Speaker 1: Like and I know I was on some grouping ship

1471
01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:30,880
Speaker 1: that night. When I'm a kid man like this is

1472
01:06:31,080 --> 01:06:34,400
Speaker 1: is fucking ghost Face, Like you gotta groupie out come

1473
01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:36,880
Speaker 1: on man like, Like we live in this era where

1474
01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:38,640
Speaker 1: if you tell somebody how much you loved him, you're

1475
01:06:38,680 --> 01:06:41,640
Speaker 1: dick riding. If you tell somebody how much you don't

1476
01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:43,480
Speaker 1: like them, you're hating. I'm like, where's the middle ground,

1477
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:46,600
Speaker 1: Like why can't we celebrate people? So I'm quoting rhymes

1478
01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:48,840
Speaker 1: to him. Me and ghost Face stood outside this club

1479
01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:51,760
Speaker 1: in New York, probably like oh seven, and I wrapped

1480
01:06:52,040 --> 01:06:55,840
Speaker 1: Wildflower to him, wild Flowers off Supream Clientele, And he's like, yo, bitch,

1481
01:06:55,880 --> 01:06:58,320
Speaker 1: your fuck your friend. Yeah, you stay cold. I've seen

1482
01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:00,600
Speaker 1: on the elevator, honeygram My can go. She put me

1483
01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:02,360
Speaker 1: on the Mega ship about to slap the bitch. She's

1484
01:07:02,360 --> 01:07:04,400
Speaker 1: got crazy rebel. I leaned back, like I'm rich. It

1485
01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:08,000
Speaker 1: took place late night on February seventeen, Like we wrapped

1486
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:10,760
Speaker 1: that ship together. He was rocking with you, Yes, so

1487
01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:13,360
Speaker 1: that's fucking dope. Yeah, the last time I seen him.

1488
01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:14,840
Speaker 1: I think I saw him in the airport recently, but

1489
01:07:15,560 --> 01:07:16,960
Speaker 1: maybe like a year. I don't know. But ghost is

1490
01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:21,440
Speaker 1: my favorite. Um. I love that guy, his whole ship.

1491
01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:24,880
Speaker 1: Man one of a kind, one of a kind. When

1492
01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:26,640
Speaker 1: I found out who made his robe my man of

1493
01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:29,560
Speaker 1: San Torrey, I gotta fucking roll, man. I was walking

1494
01:07:29,560 --> 01:07:31,040
Speaker 1: around New York with a see the guard roll. I

1495
01:07:31,080 --> 01:07:32,720
Speaker 1: still got it at the house. I still wearing around

1496
01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:38,000
Speaker 1: the house sometimes. Oh Ship, ghost Face, Killing Mike, Killer

1497
01:07:38,080 --> 01:07:41,480
Speaker 1: Mike is a phenomenal man. People run the Jewels, Run

1498
01:07:41,520 --> 01:07:43,160
Speaker 1: the Jewels man. But I mean even before that with

1499
01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:47,600
Speaker 1: his uh you know, um goody Yeah, Dungeon, Dungeon family

1500
01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:49,200
Speaker 1: and all of him. Yeah, I pledgedly just to the

1501
01:07:49,240 --> 01:07:52,920
Speaker 1: grind mixtapes and albums like Killing Mike is one of

1502
01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:57,960
Speaker 1: the most slept on lyricists. I agree, um t I,

1503
01:07:57,960 --> 01:08:00,520
Speaker 1: I love t I man. I think ly T I

1504
01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:02,720
Speaker 1: is just he's dope. Like you just gotta go back

1505
01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:04,960
Speaker 1: and listen to those indiscrete mixtapes. Listen to I'm serious,

1506
01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:08,400
Speaker 1: listen to you know, urban legend trap music god phenomenal,

1507
01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:10,560
Speaker 1: like there's no there's no trap like you know this

1508
01:08:10,720 --> 01:08:12,440
Speaker 1: next guy who I'm about to say, is my favorite.

1509
01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:14,880
Speaker 1: You don't have him without t I And that's jeez.

1510
01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:17,560
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Jez is not the greatest lyricists,

1511
01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:19,560
Speaker 1: but you feel him, you know what I'm saying, Like

1512
01:08:19,640 --> 01:08:22,600
Speaker 1: you feel him. He just says those things like you

1513
01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:24,800
Speaker 1: just feeling like the world is yours and everything in

1514
01:08:24,840 --> 01:08:26,920
Speaker 1: it is out there, you know, trying to get it yeah,

1515
01:08:27,400 --> 01:08:29,040
Speaker 1: in the air, like its just it's the way he

1516
01:08:29,080 --> 01:08:31,760
Speaker 1: words things. It's just dope to me. And then, um,

1517
01:08:31,800 --> 01:08:35,320
Speaker 1: scar face, man, that's my that's my that's my five.

1518
01:08:35,400 --> 01:08:37,400
Speaker 1: If I gotta take Ja and Nas out, that's my five.

1519
01:08:37,479 --> 01:08:40,160
Speaker 1: Scar face and scar face. He speaks for himself. And

1520
01:08:40,160 --> 01:08:42,000
Speaker 1: if I have to say, well, that's my five, I'm

1521
01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:46,840
Speaker 1: about to say honorable mention. But mention man, stupid. Come

1522
01:08:46,840 --> 01:08:49,519
Speaker 1: on man, there's no Eminem without red Man. I keep

1523
01:08:49,520 --> 01:08:52,160
Speaker 1: trying to tell people that, like, if Eminem was black,

1524
01:08:52,240 --> 01:08:55,439
Speaker 1: he'd be red Man. Red Man's word play it's just

1525
01:08:55,560 --> 01:08:59,720
Speaker 1: that amazing. And I think Eminem is a better songwriting

1526
01:08:59,720 --> 01:09:01,360
Speaker 1: and I mean right, Man has a better song writing

1527
01:09:01,400 --> 01:09:02,479
Speaker 1: them and them too. If you don't believe me, go

1528
01:09:02,479 --> 01:09:04,760
Speaker 1: listen to Buddy Water, Muddy Wall to celebrated twenty one years.

1529
01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:07,120
Speaker 1: He's getting ready dropped some fire because I've seen I mean,

1530
01:09:07,160 --> 01:09:08,920
Speaker 1: I hope it's fired, because I've seen some clips he

1531
01:09:08,920 --> 01:09:10,920
Speaker 1: put on on the internet and I was like, this

1532
01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:12,840
Speaker 1: is what the funk I'm talking? Oh yeah, he killed

1533
01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:15,599
Speaker 1: the new Woutang killed it. He killed the new Woutang.

1534
01:09:16,160 --> 01:09:17,439
Speaker 1: He's he been on the show. He's been on that

1535
01:09:17,479 --> 01:09:19,400
Speaker 1: a couple of times. So you are you hyped? Like yo,

1536
01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:22,000
Speaker 1: fucking Red Man ways always I'm a nineties kid. May

1537
01:09:22,040 --> 01:09:24,679
Speaker 1: see my my hoodie's fucking Mike Tyson from Mike Tyson

1538
01:09:24,720 --> 01:09:26,200
Speaker 1: Punch out Man, no doubt, you know what I'm saying.

1539
01:09:26,200 --> 01:09:27,400
Speaker 1: That's the type of shift I grew up when I

1540
01:09:27,439 --> 01:09:31,160
Speaker 1: grew up on fucking you know, Wu Tang and Red Man.

1541
01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:32,280
Speaker 1: I first time I have a punch the kid in

1542
01:09:32,320 --> 01:09:34,320
Speaker 1: the face time for some action was in my headphones,

1543
01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:37,439
Speaker 1: like like that's those are the people that provided the

1544
01:09:37,479 --> 01:09:40,559
Speaker 1: soundtrack to my life. So how can I not get

1545
01:09:40,560 --> 01:09:42,320
Speaker 1: excited when I see those guys. It's hard for me

1546
01:09:42,360 --> 01:09:44,720
Speaker 1: not the fan out whenever I'm around Woutang, You know

1547
01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:47,000
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like I'm sitting at the crib literally

1548
01:09:47,560 --> 01:09:51,120
Speaker 1: maybe two months ago, meth calling my phone. You know

1549
01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:53,120
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, because because because you know, Suo the

1550
01:09:53,400 --> 01:09:55,160
Speaker 1: MEFI man me want to get me on drop the mike.

1551
01:09:55,160 --> 01:09:58,000
Speaker 1: But just I'm getting a call from MEFI man like

1552
01:09:58,040 --> 01:09:59,920
Speaker 1: I don't get old. I don't get how old I am.

1553
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:02,400
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like that's fucking meth man, motherfucker.

1554
01:10:02,479 --> 01:10:04,960
Speaker 1: LIKEO some respect, you know what I'm saying, like when

1555
01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:09,400
Speaker 1: we interviewing, Like that's different. Great Kwan calling me over

1556
01:10:09,439 --> 01:10:11,360
Speaker 1: to his studio to watch the Only Built for Human

1557
01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:13,519
Speaker 1: Links documentary. It wants me to be on the only

1558
01:10:13,720 --> 01:10:15,679
Speaker 1: I did the Only Built for Human Links documentary, which

1559
01:10:15,680 --> 01:10:17,800
Speaker 1: is phenomenal. By the way, it's not out yet, but

1560
01:10:17,800 --> 01:10:19,599
Speaker 1: it's phenomenal. He wanted me to be on it because

1561
01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:21,840
Speaker 1: you know, I'm such a big Wou Tang fan, Like

1562
01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:24,040
Speaker 1: come on, man, like that's different. Like that was like

1563
01:10:24,479 --> 01:10:26,360
Speaker 1: I never thought i'd be. I don't take ship like

1564
01:10:26,400 --> 01:10:27,840
Speaker 1: that for granted. As what I'm trying to say, I

1565
01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:30,479
Speaker 1: don't take that ship for granted. All right, Charlemagne the guy,

1566
01:10:30,520 --> 01:10:34,120
Speaker 1: this was dope. I appreciate it. Book is still on

1567
01:10:34,200 --> 01:10:39,559
Speaker 1: sale New York Times Bestsellers seven weeks, Black Privilege, TV host,

1568
01:10:39,880 --> 01:10:44,680
Speaker 1: radio host, outspoken, ship talking and kind of sore. Yes,

1569
01:10:44,720 --> 01:10:47,720
Speaker 1: sir um, what else can I say? That's it. I'm

1570
01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:50,600
Speaker 1: gonna I call myself professional games for the heavy hit

1571
01:10:50,640 --> 01:10:52,680
Speaker 1: of ship talking. Don't nobody run off with the mouth

1572
01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:55,479
Speaker 1: better than me. I mean, you're you're good. You're good too,

1573
01:10:55,840 --> 01:10:59,240
Speaker 1: You're you're good. I mean, you're fucking Hall of Fame good.

1574
01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:01,200
Speaker 1: Thank You don't know if you're in the hall yet.

1575
01:11:01,240 --> 01:11:03,719
Speaker 1: You might be, You're still You're not in. You're still playing,

1576
01:11:03,760 --> 01:11:06,920
Speaker 1: still playing. Like I told Steve Harvey the other day,

1577
01:11:06,920 --> 01:11:08,680
Speaker 1: I said, you're in the whole of fame because you've

1578
01:11:08,720 --> 01:11:11,800
Speaker 1: dialed it back. But that's a Hall of Fame ship talker. Yeah, yeah, Steve.

1579
01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:13,880
Speaker 1: Steve is a great insperation of mine. Like you know,

1580
01:11:13,880 --> 01:11:17,200
Speaker 1: he's somebody that I model my career after this as

1581
01:11:17,200 --> 01:11:19,040
Speaker 1: far as an entrepreneurship, you know what I'm saying. Look

1582
01:11:19,040 --> 01:11:20,519
Speaker 1: at what he's doing in the media world as far

1583
01:11:20,560 --> 01:11:23,320
Speaker 1: as radio and television and executive producing all of these

1584
01:11:23,320 --> 01:11:25,320
Speaker 1: ships and talk to you, he's the man. Like the

1585
01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:28,600
Speaker 1: Black Privilege, the book is the reason I structured it

1586
01:11:28,640 --> 01:11:30,800
Speaker 1: the way I structured it is because of Steve, because

1587
01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:32,639
Speaker 1: my original title from my book was I don't give

1588
01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:34,280
Speaker 1: a fucking easy to you, and it's gonna be a

1589
01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:36,040
Speaker 1: self help guiy on how not to give a fucking

1590
01:11:36,360 --> 01:11:38,640
Speaker 1: all the publishers that touched on. So she was like, no,

1591
01:11:38,760 --> 01:11:40,519
Speaker 1: you can't do that, blah blah blah. It will never sell,

1592
01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:44,439
Speaker 1: it won't get displacement. Meanwhile, you know, Mark, Mark Marrin

1593
01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:46,600
Speaker 1: comes out, Mark Manson comes out with this subtle art

1594
01:11:46,640 --> 01:11:49,840
Speaker 1: of not giving the sales a million goddamn copies that motherfucker. Yeah.

1595
01:11:49,880 --> 01:11:52,080
Speaker 1: But but Steve was like, look, man, you got more

1596
01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:55,920
Speaker 1: to offer than that. Give these kids some lessons, some principles,

1597
01:11:55,960 --> 01:11:57,720
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. He's like, Yo, I put

1598
01:11:57,720 --> 01:11:59,560
Speaker 1: a suit on for my book cover, you know what

1599
01:11:59,560 --> 01:12:01,120
Speaker 1: I mean. And I was like, yo, you know what,

1600
01:12:01,160 --> 01:12:02,840
Speaker 1: You're right, and that's what I did. That's why I

1601
01:12:02,840 --> 01:12:05,960
Speaker 1: put the suit on, because I'm showing people where I'm going.

1602
01:12:06,560 --> 01:12:07,840
Speaker 1: And plus on the back, you know what I'm saying,

1603
01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:09,080
Speaker 1: I got the white T shirt on with the South

1604
01:12:09,080 --> 01:12:11,760
Speaker 1: Carolina had because I still will always remember in the

1605
01:12:11,800 --> 01:12:13,960
Speaker 1: back of my mind where I came from and who

1606
01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:15,479
Speaker 1: I am at the core of me. You know what

1607
01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:17,200
Speaker 1: I mean, but I know I want to have a

1608
01:12:17,280 --> 01:12:18,800
Speaker 1: late night show with talk show one day. You know

1609
01:12:18,800 --> 01:12:20,400
Speaker 1: what I told you that yesterday. Like I don't want

1610
01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:22,400
Speaker 1: there's no black people in that space. There's no black

1611
01:12:22,439 --> 01:12:24,000
Speaker 1: men in that space. You got like Robin Thid on

1612
01:12:24,040 --> 01:12:27,200
Speaker 1: v T now, but like there's no black host on

1613
01:12:27,240 --> 01:12:30,400
Speaker 1: a major network. It's crazy, it's weird, you know what

1614
01:12:30,439 --> 01:12:32,160
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like you got even John Oliver and Bill

1615
01:12:32,200 --> 01:12:34,320
Speaker 1: mar and HPR. So I want to get on one

1616
01:12:34,360 --> 01:12:36,960
Speaker 1: of those cable networks and just have like a weekly

1617
01:12:37,040 --> 01:12:38,479
Speaker 1: late night show, you know what I'm saying, where we

1618
01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:43,080
Speaker 1: just really talk that real ship. Absolutely, Charlomagne the motherfuck

1619
01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:51,280
Speaker 1: with God, I said, I absolutely, all right, I want

1620
01:12:51,280 --> 01:12:55,679
Speaker 1: to think my guess. Charlottagne the Guy definitely got his book.

1621
01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:59,799
Speaker 1: Read his book New York Times best selling book, Black Privilege.

1622
01:13:00,240 --> 01:13:03,280
Speaker 1: If you catch them every single day, the host of

1623
01:13:03,439 --> 01:13:08,280
Speaker 1: Breakfast Club, they got their YouTube page. It's easy to find.

1624
01:13:08,520 --> 01:13:11,439
Speaker 1: Charlemagne the God. Again, thank you for rocking me on

1625
01:13:11,439 --> 01:13:14,320
Speaker 1: the Iron Wrap Reports Stereo podcast. This was a this

1626
01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:17,920
Speaker 1: is a great episode with an iconic ship talker. Um

1627
01:13:17,960 --> 01:13:20,280
Speaker 1: and We're done Iron Wrappot Stereo Podcasts. I'm out.