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Speaker 1: Gucci family, when meanwhile, that is not why we buy

424
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 1: the ticket. And maybe I'm being presumptuous here, but I

425
00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:22,639
Speaker 1: almost feel a more interesting movie completely leaves this behind

426
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:27,800
Speaker 1: and is merely about what happens when she gets divorced

427
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:32,200
Speaker 1: and and what her life becomes. And I think there's

428
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:36,439
Speaker 1: a more interesting movie about the plot with Salma and

429
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:40,879
Speaker 1: these guys and the aftermath of the murder, realizing what

430
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,000
Speaker 1: she's done and that she didn't get away with it.

431
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,640
Speaker 1: That to me, is the more interesting film. I love that.

432
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,439
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it very like Itania almost and we

433
00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 1: saw none of it. We saw him, I mean spoiler alert,

434
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:55,119
Speaker 1: I guess if you haven't seen it, but by this

435
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,479
Speaker 1: point whatever, we'll put it in the liner notes. But

436
00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:01,360
Speaker 1: we see him getting murdered, and then she writes Paradiso

437
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,720
Speaker 1: in her um journal, which really happened. And then you

438
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,960
Speaker 1: see her getting sentenced. Pretty much that's the and then

439
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,880
Speaker 1: and then and then the credits roll. Yeah right, And meanwhile,

440
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:15,440
Speaker 1: isn't there so much more to the fact that she

441
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,399
Speaker 1: did not get away with this probably thought she would

442
00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 1: or maybe did it. Like, there's just a lot more

443
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 1: to explore in terms of the character of Patricia Reggianni

444
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:28,919
Speaker 1: that I feel the movie doesn't have much interest in.

445
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 1: And I think it's a mistake the way you just

446
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 1: broke this done for everybody. The readers that that stick

447
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,720
Speaker 1: with the pod know that when they trot out these

448
00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 1: movies at the end of the year and see these

449
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 1: are the Oscar movies. I take that seriously. And I'm like, okay, well,

450
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,960
Speaker 1: if this is like defining the culture, I mean, you

451
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,240
Speaker 1: all heard that I was not easy. I'm promising young

452
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 1: woman in that script and I respect the fact that

453
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 1: it won the OSCAR for Best Original Screenplay, but I

454
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 1: hold these things to a high standard for better or worse.

455
00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 1: And no one went into House of Gucci wanting to

456
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,639
Speaker 1: love it more. And I leave and it's seven because

457
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 1: of the strength of her performance. And I think al

458
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 1: Pacino was fabulous. Oh Pacino was you and I talked

459
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:12,120
Speaker 1: about how we both loved Pecino absolutely, Oh my god,

460
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:17,399
Speaker 1: he was so great. He should be the buzzy supporting performance. Yes, yes, agree.

461
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:22,880
Speaker 1: I think that sometimes the industry and actors get so

462
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,680
Speaker 1: up their own ass about the transformation of it all

463
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 1: that they're not thinking about tone Like this Jared Letto

464
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:34,359
Speaker 1: performance is willfully bad. He was he kind of was

465
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,159
Speaker 1: throwing the movie a little bit. It felt like he

466
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 1: didn't respect her prosthetics. And movies for the most part,

467
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 1: are just like the perfect symbol of this obsession with

468
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:52,960
Speaker 1: losing disappearing into the role, which is so fucking overrated. Yeah,

469
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,680
Speaker 1: I I don't think we actually need it, you know

470
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 1: what I mean? I don't care like like and this

471
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,360
Speaker 1: is the thing is like, you know, American time Story

472
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 1: ends in a while back. But even with Sarah Paulson

473
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:05,879
Speaker 1: in that in that series, which I thought she was great,

474
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 1: Like I don't know if I needed the prosthetic or

475
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 1: maybe it was. And I think she's an amazing actress

476
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 1: and you know whatever, but maybe it's not the right

477
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 1: person for the part. Then if you have to like

478
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 1: put a prosthetic on to make it clear, how quote

479
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,919
Speaker 1: unquote ugly this person was, you know what I mean, Like,

480
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 1: it's just there's something nasty about it. I kept my

481
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,959
Speaker 1: finger on it, but the prosthetic of it all throws

482
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,880
Speaker 1: me because I think we're moving it. I think we're

483
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 1: gonna move out of it because I think we we

484
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:34,360
Speaker 1: aren't the only ones who feel this way. I think

485
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 1: we're at a breaking point with it. That's what I'm saying.

486
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,199
Speaker 1: Like very soon we will, like I think in like

487
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 1: ten years, the industry will avoid it so much. Truly.

488
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:47,479
Speaker 1: It's not like a C G I thing where it's like,

489
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 1: oh no, they can develop the technology better. It's that

490
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:53,920
Speaker 1: it just it's it's it's this thing of like why,

491
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 1: like what is it really saying when we like make

492
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 1: someone look a certain way with these like little attachments

493
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 1: to their ace or something or body, like I don't

494
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,199
Speaker 1: know what that says about the role, if it's being

495
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 1: if it's like if it's an adaptation of a real

496
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 1: story or something. You know, it's like that kind of

497
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 1: also noticed that it usually is applied on an actor

498
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:21,679
Speaker 1: that is a perfectly symmetrical physical specimen. I mean, Jared

499
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:26,439
Speaker 1: Leto is a beautiful person, like anyone in the world

500
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:30,160
Speaker 1: could objectively say, oh, that is a beautiful man. Even

501
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:34,120
Speaker 1: in this performance, like his eyes just kept exploding out

502
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 1: to me. I'm like, see, I'm here's the deal with

503
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 1: the prosthetic on I'm actually remembering more and more that

504
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,640
Speaker 1: this is Jared Letting. Yes, he did not disappear into

505
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:48,399
Speaker 1: it at all for me, because it was clownary. Mm hmmm.

506
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 1: So the win the wink of the wink was too big,

507
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 1: it like cut through the prosthetic count. Yeah, it was

508
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 1: just was it was not effective, And I it's rough

509
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:01,919
Speaker 1: because and I think that the thing with him is

510
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 1: he gets a lot of credit for being someone who

511
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 1: quote unquote disappears into rules. Like you know, he's obviously

512
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 1: not a transgender woman. He wanted an oscar for playing one,

513
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 1: probably right in the nick of time, probably about a

514
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 1: year and a half later that would have been completely unacceptable,

515
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 1: but he did win an oscar for Dallas Buyers Club

516
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:22,919
Speaker 1: for playing a transgender woman. He obviously is one of

517
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 1: the you know list of jokers that we have, and

518
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 1: he was method on that set and sending his cast

519
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:33,120
Speaker 1: members like rats in the mail. Literally, um, I just

520
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 1: too much for me. And he seems like I'm over

521
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 1: I'm over the Jared Lettle thing and like like I've

522
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 1: been for a while and House of Gucci just to

523
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 1: me because I feel it was disrespectful. That's why that's

524
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 1: what this is where I'm completely I think we it's

525
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 1: so funny. Like to me, Jared Letto is someone who

526
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 1: while he's like had these dumb little transgressions and he

527
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 1: seems to be an insufferable person, like he hasn't ever

528
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 1: like made me care how I feel about him, And

529
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 1: now I actually care enough to say that I dislike him.

530
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 1: Yeah it's not it's I don't. I think he's like

531
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 1: you know what the thing is like like he to

532
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 1: me is one of the frustrating ones because like I

533
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 1: do feel like he does have talent, you know what

534
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 1: I mean, Like I can totally like see he's a

535
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 1: talented person. I think he's a talented musician. You know,

536
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 1: his music is not for me. But I actually heard

537
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 1: him do a cover of Rihanna Stay one time on

538
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 1: that radio lounge or Radio one maybe See one. It

539
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 1: was fantastic. And I think that when he plays roles

540
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 1: that are appropriate for him. And we could get into

541
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 1: a larger discussion about what role is quote unquote appropriate

542
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 1: for an actor whose job is to inhabit other things.

543
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 1: But I just think for me, I actually come out

544
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 1: of it way more when I see him playing far

545
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 1: from himself. You know what, I like him my so

546
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 1: called life, you know what. I like him grow interrupted,

547
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I like him when he's

548
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 1: giving something that I identify with and I recognize. Yeah, yeah,

549
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 1: I don't like while Luigi Biopic. I have a really strange,

550
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 1: potentially unfair question to ask. This is just I just

551
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 1: want to see I just because I can't. I don't

552
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 1: know what the answer is to this. Let's say Linda

553
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 1: trips Sarah Paulson. Would it have worked, which she had

554
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 1: been good or effective in the role, if she didn't

555
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 1: have the prosthetics on, if she wasn't wearing the fat suit.

556
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 1: I don't know. Here's the thing I think she's always

557
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 1: going to be good because I think that Sarah is

558
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 1: incredibly talented. And I left watching that series, which I

559
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 1: did watch the whole thing. I was actually really impressed

560
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 1: with her because I thought there was a degree of

561
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 1: humanity that she gave the character. My issue lies in,

562
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 1: you know, there's a lot of plus size actresses, a gorgeous, thin,

563
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 1: blonde woman and again, I guess I'm asking this because

564
00:30:58,040 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 1: I haven't seen it, so I don't know how much

565
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 1: of she's incredible, no notice. I'm sure she's incredible, but

566
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 1: I'm not sure how much the show makes um it

567
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 1: a characteristic that she is fat. But then you've told me,

568
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 1: like there's so many liquisine SMEEs and all this stuff,

569
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 1: and yeah, I'm sure like the human Linda Trip was

570
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 1: obviously the way people perceived her was obviously informed by

571
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 1: her weight and her figure, and that's why you get

572
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,719
Speaker 1: like John Goodman playing her on SNL Like it's like

573
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 1: it's like that's which is shitty. You know, It's like

574
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 1: there is a narrative thread in the series which is yes,

575
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 1: from the first episode you see her sort of you know,

576
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 1: following nineties diet trends, um but it's less about her

577
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 1: weight that she's made fun of and ridiculed and bullied

578
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 1: in the public eye and more because of two things.

579
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 1: One she fully betrayed her best friend and it was

580
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 1: like a very to the public at the time. And

581
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 1: you could agree, you could argue now black and white betrayal.

582
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 1: She's a she's a horrible person. We just and and

583
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 1: it does, it does color in some shades of gray.

584
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 1: But she definitely did something that I think this this

585
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 1: this series sort of hints at that she regretted for

586
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 1: the rest of her life. Um because it did destroy

587
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 1: Monica's life at the time, but also it's more about

588
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 1: her getting ridiculed because she is and this is like

589
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 1: the word that they would all use, ugly. It's about

590
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 1: how ugly she is, how ugly she is, how ugly

591
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 1: she is. And so by the end of the first season,

592
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 1: and this really happened, Linda Trip in real life got

593
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 1: extensive cosmetic surgery to look completely different so that a

594
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 1: she wouldn't be recognizable and and you know, torn apart

595
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 1: for the rest of her life and she could start

596
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 1: her life over, but also be because Sarah Polson actually

597
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 1: has a line in the last episode where she says,

598
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 1: you know, I never actually realized how ugly I was

599
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 1: until everyone told me, which is heartbreaking. There's something to

600
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 1: the fact that there's a fucking gorgeous actress playing her

601
00:32:56,800 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 1: who has no shortage of opportunities. So that's I guess,

602
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's an interesting conversation. And when that's

603
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 1: there's no responsibility or any sort of like stage gate

604
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 1: for like someone for Sarah to be like, I shouldn't

605
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 1: take the role, you know, Like, that's not what we're saying.

606
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 1: We're just saying there's this dilemma in Hollywood that may

607
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 1: or may not. Yeah, well it's it is a you know,

608
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 1: it's a thing of like, well, not not to rope

609
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 1: it into the diversity conversation, but it's like, what about

610
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 1: people who do look like regular people? You know what

611
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 1: I mean, Like I mean Linda trip was, I mean

612
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 1: what whether or not whether or not she was unattractive

613
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 1: is subjective ultimately, but it's also like, so much the

614
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 1: show is so much about the beauty standard that for

615
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 1: them to put an actress in a fat suit and

616
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 1: a prosthetic to make her less attractive is problematic. Yes,

617
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 1: when you're doing a show about the beauty standard, right right,

618
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 1: it's not problematic then, like diluted and like we as

619
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 1: an audience don't really sort of buy in. Yeah, And

620
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 1: I also think, you know, Ryan Murphy really likes to

621
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 1: work with who he works with, and I also don't

622
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 1: begrudge him that. I think that he he obviously prefers

623
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:12,840
Speaker 1: to work with certain actors and I think that Sarah

624
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,840
Speaker 1: Paulson is one of the best out there, So I

625
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 1: don't begrudge that. I just think, you know, if we

626
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:23,359
Speaker 1: were to leave watching this series without discussing that, and

627
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 1: it's interesting we talk about it in the thing of

628
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 1: House of Gucci because at a certain point it's a

629
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,760
Speaker 1: talking point. I think for the opposite reason they wanted

630
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 1: to be, because it doesn't allow us to opt in.

631
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 1: It actually distracts us from yes, yes, yes, I love this.

632
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:50,280
Speaker 1: I think it's time to move on. So I wanted

633
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,399
Speaker 1: to ask you about a movie that we just both saw,

634
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 1: which you told me that you watched and I enjoyed

635
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 1: so much, and I mentioned it last week on the

636
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Speaker 1: Pot and I'm really so happy that you watched then

637
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 1: your parents enjoyed it so much, which was Passing by

638
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 1: Rebecca by Rebecca Hall loved it so much and we

639
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 1: watched it. I watched it with my parents because I'm

640
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 1: now I'm having to pick up movies where there are

641
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 1: Chinese subtitles, and Netflix, with at least their original stuff

642
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 1: will have Chinese subtitles on, and so played it. How

643
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:23,919
Speaker 1: the subtitles on. My dad keeps being like, I don't

644
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 1: need these, I can understand what's going on. I actually

645
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 1: had that question for you, though, I did, I did,

646
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 1: I did. I wondered just how much of it they were.

647
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 1: They were, they followed all of it, they loved it,

648
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 1: but um, the subtitles thing is funny, and it's this

649
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:42,879
Speaker 1: funny like first generation thing. I guess maybe where first

650
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:47,839
Speaker 1: enieration millennial gen z thing. You're either overestimating or underestimating

651
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 1: how much your parents can, like your immigrant parents who

652
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 1: don't speak English as their first language, can like absorb

653
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 1: narratively in something. I feel like Passing was a movie

654
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 1: that ended up being so like, so wonderfully lean and

655
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 1: yet so effective, and the storytelling in the narrative that

656
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 1: like they got it and they understood everything that was

657
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 1: going on. Yes this, I mean I love this, I

658
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 1: love I I pretty much loved everything about it. I mean,

659
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 1: I thought that Tessa Thompson was exquisite, and I think

660
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 1: that she she is not getting talked about enough at

661
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 1: this time of year because I think there's a lot

662
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 1: of bigger, louder performances. But she So what if people

663
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 1: don't know the story is about Tessa Thompson is a

664
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,880
Speaker 1: woman who lives in Harlem, and this is the nineteen

665
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 1: twenties in New York and she one day is passing

666
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 1: in a white part of this city so that she

667
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 1: can run errands. And what that means for people that

668
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,919
Speaker 1: don't know is that she is basically light skinned enough

669
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,959
Speaker 1: where she can sort of disguise herself as a white

670
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 1: woman so that she is not attacked, ridiculed, harassed, or

671
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 1: worse in this white part of town where she needs

672
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: to run errands for the day and it's a very

673
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 1: high day. So she stops in a hotel and runs

674
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 1: into a childhood friends of hers played by Immaculate, who

675
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,399
Speaker 1: is fully passing as a white woman with blonde hair,

676
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:17,320
Speaker 1: married to Alexander scars Guard who continues to push himself

677
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,240
Speaker 1: like and he does there's no monster, he won't play,

678
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 1: and there's something brave about it. It's very brave. I

679
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,799
Speaker 1: am part of me is may be worried that this

680
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 1: is all he's getting offered. It's a little typecast threatening.

681
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 1: He's obviously someone who I mean, he's Norman like I

682
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 1: think I think that he's one of the best actors

683
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 1: as well. But yeah, he plays her husband and basically

684
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 1: like they have a conversation that leaves both of them

685
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:49,799
Speaker 1: wanting to reconnect. And it's dangerous because Alexander scarts Guard

686
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 1: is a major racist and so they start a friendship

687
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,919
Speaker 1: again and the movie takes off from there and it's

688
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 1: just it's just fabulous. I mean, she Rebecca Hall wrote

689
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,839
Speaker 1: this right, and she wrote and directed it based on

690
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:09,840
Speaker 1: her own experience of finding out that her grandfather passed.

691
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 1: I mean there was such like I told you this right,

692
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:15,879
Speaker 1: and I think, I really think, I don't think I'm

693
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 1: off here. It was a Tennessee Williams quality about this.

694
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 1: It's also very streetcar like, for like coming into the

695
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 1: home of this marriage like it just and she was

696
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 1: playing like Southern Bell, like Blanche Dubois, like Ruthe ruth um,

697
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 1: and it was just so so like wonderfully done. Shot

698
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,799
Speaker 1: in black and white as a choice yeah, I mean

699
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 1: I loved it. I loved it so much. I mean,

700
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 1: we're just saying how much we love it, right we

701
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:44,320
Speaker 1: were discussing, I don't, I mean, I don't. I obviously

702
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 1: don't want to give much of the plot away, but

703
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 1: it is really actually it's very interesting as a as

704
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:56,839
Speaker 1: a movie to look at right now, I think, particularly

705
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 1: in our times, because one of the subplots which I

706
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: thought was really interesting is um Tessa Thompson and her

707
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 1: husband have a disagreement about how much to tell their

708
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 1: children about violence towards black people. And I thought that

709
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 1: it was a really really fascinating conversation and argument that

710
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 1: they have because Tessa Thompson is the more light skinned

711
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 1: in the couple and she thinks our kids don't need

712
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,439
Speaker 1: to know about it, and her husband who's more dark

713
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 1: skinned and cannot pass. Her husband cannot pass, doesn't have

714
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 1: that privilege. He is like, no, they do need to

715
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:34,399
Speaker 1: know about it. And you know, you see the way

716
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 1: that Ruth Nega, who is you know, extremely charismatic and

717
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 1: does pass, is able to step back into black society

718
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 1: and really becomes the bell of the ball. So it's

719
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 1: so much internally going on in Tessa Thompson's character to

720
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 1: the point where it all ends up to this climax,

721
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:57,839
Speaker 1: which is you know, really really really impactful. And I

722
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,399
Speaker 1: just think that everyone should watch it because it's so

723
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 1: beautifully done. And Tessa Thompson, I think this put her

724
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 1: in a different league for me, absolutely, And I was

725
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:08,839
Speaker 1: telling you that, like she had a very difficult thing

726
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 1: to accomplish in this role where between Stella and Blanche,

727
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 1: like Blanch is the more interesting one, like it's the

728
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 1: same thing here. It's like or it's like like it's

729
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 1: like similar to Zola in a way where it's like

730
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 1: the looser, I mean not the looser canon like the

731
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 1: more mysterious person. The actor like that role is just

732
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:31,280
Speaker 1: a little bit shinier and more fun yes to an audience,

733
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 1: and for her to sort of have to be this

734
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 1: like grounding thing person, I'm sorry, I'm so stoned, but

735
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 1: but does this make sense? Like she like makes she

736
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 1: really had to like hold that grounded nous. I just

737
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 1: think we don't respect nuance enough. I just think especially

738
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 1: you know, it's just so hard to do. And I

739
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 1: think that even in Gaga's performance in House of Gucci,

740
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 1: like people are going to think, oh, this is like,

741
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:02,320
Speaker 1: you know, an over the top, like wildly emotional performance,

742
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:05,319
Speaker 1: but there is nuance in it, and I think that

743
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 1: that's really what I look for, as I look for

744
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 1: those little things under the surface that that tell you

745
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 1: all you need to know. And Passing has so much

746
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:15,840
Speaker 1: of that. And I think it's also credit to the

747
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 1: script and Rebecca Hall. You know, I've always been interested

748
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:21,359
Speaker 1: in her as an actress, like I've always been, you know,

749
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 1: aware of her. I like her, and Vicky Christina I

750
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 1: like her, and you know, she was in Frost Nixon,

751
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 1: I think is the first thing I saw her, and

752
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:30,800
Speaker 1: she was in the town. She's in lots of good stuff.

753
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,839
Speaker 1: She has a real talent as a writer. Yeah, oh

754
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 1: my god, so tight that script, like for yeah, I

755
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:42,280
Speaker 1: mean that triangle of Testa's character the husband and Ruth's

756
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:47,320
Speaker 1: is such a perfect like triangulation, sorry to say that again,

757
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 1: but like for testas character where she's like caught between

758
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 1: these two poles. Yes, it's so great. Yeah, I feel like,

759
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:56,879
Speaker 1: you know, the Testament is a great writing and also

760
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 1: great direction and acting obviously is how much is our

761
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 1: sticulated and what is not said and so on the page?

762
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,320
Speaker 1: You know what I love is that there's very long

763
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 1: scenes between the actors, like I really love I missed

764
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 1: that I miss I missed, like, um, you know because

765
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 1: it very easily could be uh like a scene on stage. Um.

766
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 1: And it was a novella, so it's a it's a

767
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 1: it's an adapted work, but this is a really it's

768
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 1: like there's scenes study you can do it because there's

769
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 1: subtext and there's really rich things for the actress to

770
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,800
Speaker 1: play and they're just so good. I just can't recommend

771
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 1: it enough. And I was really happy that you watched

772
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 1: it and liked it so much. Girl, I loved it.

773
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 1: Let's move on. Should we talk about speaking of colorism?

774
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:43,879
Speaker 1: Should we just talk about Potomac? Well, it's so so yeah.

775
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 1: I mean, just to dive back into our like our,

776
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 1: because I feel like with Wendy, we were talking so

777
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 1: much about her in her life that we really didn't

778
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 1: get into it about Potomac. But this was the long

779
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 1: teased episode. This is a long episode. But I I

780
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:58,840
Speaker 1: just want to say, this is not me patting us

781
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:02,799
Speaker 1: in the back. I was so surprised her at her

782
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:05,799
Speaker 1: surprise that the audience was registering the colorism that was

783
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 1: happening on the show, Like when we brought it up,

784
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 1: she seemed genuinely like shocked in a way, like she

785
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 1: was like, oh, I didn't know you guys were clocking

786
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 1: that too. I mean, I don't know this for sure,

787
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 1: but I think that is probably a testament to just

788
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 1: how abandoned dark skinned black people and dark skinned black

789
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 1: women often feel in this conversation, because like, this is

790
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:30,360
Speaker 1: not this did not just come up on this show.

791
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 1: But these things don't change. And I think that you know,

792
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 1: to me, it's very obvious. And obviously last night was

793
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 1: a more fun episode of the Reunion where Nicki Minaj

794
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 1: got into so many things. But I still think we

795
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 1: have this you know, hanging narrative, which is the fact

796
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 1: that you know there's that there's an issue at play there.

797
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 1: But this was kind of just more fun. And I

798
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 1: love that Nikki like she really was willing to break

799
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 1: the fourth wall a little bit with them, which I

800
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 1: always enjoy. I love it she knew that she or

801
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 1: Andy told her like, you can actually take a side

802
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 1: in all the things, and she was like and like

803
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 1: she made it known. And I think she said a

804
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:11,280
Speaker 1: lot of things that the audience has thought the time.

805
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:13,760
Speaker 1: And I just I mean I talked to a friend

806
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh my god, did you want

807
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:16,399
Speaker 1: what did you think? And he was like, I really

808
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 1: hated it. He was like I wish it would have

809
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 1: been twenty minutes. But then I was like, oh really,

810
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 1: and he specifically referenced and it made sense to me

811
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 1: when he was like, yeah, like it was insane to

812
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 1: watch like Canada squirm when like they were making her

813
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 1: sing like that is something that was a little uncomfortable,

814
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 1: very uncomfortable. Actually it was. That was the only moment

815
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 1: where I felt bad for one of them. I was like, see,

816
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 1: this is a little unfair, because I mean, let's be real,

817
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 1: Nicki Minaj is going to sit up there on that

818
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 1: stage and be like, we know you use auto tune.

819
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 1: Do you think that she's sang a note of the

820
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 1: super based chorus? Do you think that she come on

821
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 1: Starships was actually acapella. The final track is acapella, and

822
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 1: she's doing all of that with her with her own voice.

823
00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 1: It was army of computers on all of Nicki Minaj's albums,

824
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 1: and we respect her, and but to bring that in,

825
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:08,439
Speaker 1: I think, of course she wanted to, you know, stir

826
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 1: it up a little bit. But the thing is like

827
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:12,359
Speaker 1: the thing with singing like that, it's like when you're

828
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:14,359
Speaker 1: put on the spot like that and you haven't been

829
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 1: warming up, like you know. I I did feel bad

830
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 1: for her, and then you know her her acapella was

831
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 1: not great, like because she was nervous. She was nervous.

832
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:24,799
Speaker 1: It's clear she can sing though, it's clear she of

833
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 1: course and the song is a hit. And I didn't

834
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 1: appreciate the way that was a mess Nikki was making

835
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 1: Nikki and Mia fuck Mia, MIA's toast, no piece of

836
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 1: ship she's done. But the way they were making Candice

837
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 1: feel like it was not a successful single, like it

838
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 1: absolutely is to chart on Billboard is a huge ecologis

839
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 1: a huge deal. And the way they the way that

840
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 1: Nikki was making faces, and I think this might have

841
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 1: been the editing about the amount of albums that Candice

842
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,319
Speaker 1: has sold, like that's nothing to sneeze at, like no

843
00:45:55,400 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 1: one buys albums anymore. Like you know, her single formed

844
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 1: it is the best housewife single, definitely single from a housewife, right,

845
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 1: like I would say, I mean, unless a lot of

846
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 1: people are in a lot of people do love Tardy

847
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 1: for the party, which is Candy Burris, you know what

848
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 1: I mean, Like she did write it shore but expensive,

849
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 1: and like how many funcks like those are just like

850
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 1: sonically very fun, but like musically just like so stupid. Yeah,

851
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 1: their party songs and like just forget about lu Anne's stuff.

852
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 1: But like this is a I thought it's I think

853
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,800
Speaker 1: it's a great album. I'm happy that she released a

854
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:34,879
Speaker 1: new like she lined up the release for her new

855
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 1: music video with this finale, this reunion. Um, we we

856
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 1: love Candice, We love Candice, and actually, okay, so a

857
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 1: lot of actually got some blowback because they were like,

858
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:48,799
Speaker 1: you know that NICKI, you know that Candice has said

859
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 1: homophobic things. And I was like, you know, at a

860
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 1: certain point, like some people have more growing to do

861
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 1: than others. And it's also like I don't watch this show,

862
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 1: and every single time someone appears on my screen, I

863
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 1: stop and say hold on before I like them, let

864
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 1: me go search through their Twitter. I'm sorry, but that's

865
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 1: not my bag. There was a moment where it was

866
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:14,240
Speaker 1: brought up that LGBTQ people face persecution in this country

867
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:18,840
Speaker 1: in a very general sense, and all of the housewives agreed,

868
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 1: nodded in acknowledgement. You get a single on Candice saying whatever,

869
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 1: it's sad like I feel like she is maybe growing.

870
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 1: I feel like we're I hope we are all in

871
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:37,760
Speaker 1: this place now in this conversation just about cancelation in general,

872
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:42,279
Speaker 1: where it's like, I, whatever, we why why do I

873
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 1: why do we talk about this? I'm sorry, let's cut

874
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 1: this part out. I don't think we need to. I mean, like,

875
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:50,720
Speaker 1: the thing is just like, look, okay, we're watching the show,

876
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 1: and we're watching the characters as they are on the show,

877
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 1: and our opinion is this podcast stands the character of

878
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 1: Candice on the show. Okay, so sorry, like, but I'm

879
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 1: not looking through her fucking tax returns and her Twitter

880
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:07,360
Speaker 1: and I don't actually know her as a person. I'm sorry,

881
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:09,840
Speaker 1: I don't follow it that closely. I watched the television show.

882
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 1: So if you're gonna unsubscribe from this podcast because we

883
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:16,799
Speaker 1: like Candice, that says more about you, darling, dear, it's fine,

884
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 1: it's fine. Um, where is your income? Roach is one

885
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 1: of the classic tweets, and I couldn't believe she said

886
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:25,320
Speaker 1: it to a woman that she was giving birth. But also,

887
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 1: you know what, that's actually good television and that I like,

888
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 1: where is your income, Where is your income? Roach? And what?

889
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 1: And what did she say to me? You should be

890
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:38,799
Speaker 1: you should be as grateful. You should you should she said,

891
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 1: you should be grateful. You should have been more grateful.

892
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:44,799
Speaker 1: And also, of course I kind of she was trespassing,

893
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 1: like Candice gives and gives, it gives you the moment.

894
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 1: I did like that. Andy went up to her at

895
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:52,319
Speaker 1: the end and was like, I have to give you

896
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:54,840
Speaker 1: props because that was really cool and everyone is supporting

897
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 1: you and you sounds great and you did that, like

898
00:48:57,239 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 1: you know, y'all. I thought it was a great episode.

899
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 1: Was Nikki was really I thought it the whole time

900
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:05,400
Speaker 1: about what Wendy was saying. It was like she was

901
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 1: watching this woman push all of these other women off

902
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 1: a cliff and then she was like, Oh sh it,

903
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 1: it's gonna be my turns soon. I have a feeling

904
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 1: they edited a lot out. I have a feeling that

905
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 1: she went harder and they took it out because they

906
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 1: were like, I mean, we can't. She was so easy

907
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 1: on Giselle in the final edit that I'm like, she

908
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:24,400
Speaker 1: must have gone harder. It really came off that she

909
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 1: was team Giselle, and I was like, how can you

910
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:29,840
Speaker 1: watch the show. But like a lot of people are

911
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:32,759
Speaker 1: a lot of people are team Giselle readers even a

912
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:36,799
Speaker 1: team Giselle, and we respect that we disagree. We think

913
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,880
Speaker 1: Giselle is a horrible person. I do it last at

914
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 1: least as depicted. Okay, and again that's what we're talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

915
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 1: I don't know Giselle's report card from third grade. I

916
00:49:48,280 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 1: don't know. So I feel that we would be remiss

917
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:05,360
Speaker 1: to not mention that, like, if this is going to

918
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 1: be a culture podcast, like we truly have lost one

919
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 1: of the great artists of all time, who is like

920
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:15,840
Speaker 1: the Shakespeare of musical theater. It's been said, and I

921
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 1: would agree, which is Stephen Sondheim. I mean, we just

922
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:24,799
Speaker 1: have to like truly give respect because that was a

923
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 1: hard one, even though he was ninety one. I believe

924
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 1: that is a hard one to not have on planet Earth.

925
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:31,799
Speaker 1: This is so, this is that, this is I'm just

926
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 1: saying this because it felt like a beautiful coincidence in

927
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 1: my life. The news broken. It came up on my

928
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 1: phone that he had passed away, Like the moment it

929
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 1: was like reported, I think, not that it matters, but

930
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 1: like I was sitting in the theater for House of

931
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 1: Gucci by myself, and then and the trailers came up

932
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 1: and it was West Side Story like that, Like I

933
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:53,880
Speaker 1: was like, I was watching, I was listening and watching

934
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:58,320
Speaker 1: like his work as like he whatever, no, it's funny,

935
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:00,440
Speaker 1: I learned as I learned that he was you you

936
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:03,399
Speaker 1: bring that up. And also I mean, by the way,

937
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:06,359
Speaker 1: speaking of the trailers, like they showed that West Side

938
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 1: Story trailer and it was just so gorgeous and looks

939
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 1: so beautiful. I can't wait. And Rachel Ziegler, are you

940
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 1: coming on? I saw her at the opening night of six.

941
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:23,400
Speaker 1: What did she say? She was like, first of all, no, no,

942
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:27,400
Speaker 1: not even that. Yes, stunning, the perfect vibe, the perfect

943
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 1: we're obsessed. Oh my god. I was like, you are

944
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 1: a good person, You are a fun energy, so talented,

945
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 1: obviously just a perfect snow white. Yes, you know what

946
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 1: I'm saying. You know what I'm saying, Come on, a

947
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 1: human snow white, not even like the princess the way,

948
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 1: but just like someone that you're like, what a what

949
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 1: an icon? What I'm saying is if you want to

950
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 1: be treated like the princess, come on, come on, Rachel,

951
00:51:57,680 --> 00:51:59,919
Speaker 1: want to talk to you. Well, she she said, she said,

952
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:02,760
Speaker 1: I want to come on. See. Here's the thing, though, Rachel.

953
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:04,359
Speaker 1: I'm talking to Rachel. I don't want to deal with

954
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 1: your publicists, like because they're gonna say, oh, I don't know,

955
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 1: she's got a lot of press she and Steven are doing.

956
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 1: That's that's that's no, no, no, no no, no no, We're

957
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 1: gonna talk to you only. Well, we won't even deal

958
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 1: with the people who have to deal with your agent nothing.

959
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:21,719
Speaker 1: We'll just get in the d m s and we'll

960
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:24,399
Speaker 1: do this old fashioned both fashion because I don't want

961
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:28,319
Speaker 1: to hear that, you know whatever. Pr is like, well,

962
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 1: she's got to do a coldbart. It's like, no, you

963
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 1: do Lost Culture Hony. Oh, by the way, there's a

964
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:37,360
Speaker 1: great um it's the CNN docu series, but there's a

965
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 1: great one that's out on late night TV that I

966
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:42,720
Speaker 1: recommend to everybody who likes comedy. I watched it, learned

967
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 1: a lot, loved it. I mean, I I am watching

968
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:48,360
Speaker 1: anything these days, so I will check that out. But

969
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 1: X is what I'm ultimate to say. Putting all their

970
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:55,400
Speaker 1: documentaries on X and generally fun to watch, good to

971
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:56,799
Speaker 1: know they I mean, they got all the good Ducks.

972
00:52:56,840 --> 00:53:00,360
Speaker 1: But basically, um, anyway, like stephen Sonhei Path thing, and

973
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:03,319
Speaker 1: now west Side coming out, I'm just I think this

974
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:05,279
Speaker 1: is gonna be even bigger than it was going to be.

975
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:07,640
Speaker 1: I mean I already feel like West Side is going

976
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:09,759
Speaker 1: to come out and pretty much clear the deck. Like

977
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 1: when that trailer came out, I was like amazing, I

978
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:14,759
Speaker 1: mean just just incredible. And I did hear from some

979
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 1: people that saw it because now it started to screen

980
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 1: that it is fantastic and everything, and I just think,

981
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 1: you know what, a I don't really necessarily believe in

982
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 1: like you know, the fate or whatever, but for this

983
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 1: to be coming out like at the end of his life,

984
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 1: and it's unbelievable that he's sixty years sixty anniversary of

985
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 1: the show. Yeah, it's just and that Rita Moreno was

986
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 1: in it, you know what I mean. Like this is

987
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 1: and I mean talk about someone who there's the there's

988
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 1: a piece in the Guardian that came out about her

989
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:48,400
Speaker 1: bow and you have to read it. She has just

990
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 1: lived the most extraordinary life. She talks about how, you know,

991
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:53,799
Speaker 1: speaking of street Car before she was in like an

992
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 1: eight year relationship throughout the fifties with Marlon Brando that

993
00:53:56,640 --> 00:54:02,760
Speaker 1: was like insane. She was treated so badly, like truly

994
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 1: the first agent she ever had, he raped her and

995
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:09,360
Speaker 1: she had to stay with him, like horrible, horrible, horrible treatment.

996
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:11,279
Speaker 1: After she won the oscar for a West Side story,

997
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 1: she wasn't offered anything but like like maids and girlfriends

998
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 1: and like bad gangster movies, like very like racially stereotypical

999
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 1: parts for years, didn't work for seven years in film

1000
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 1: after that, like worked her way in television and theater

1001
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 1: and One Woman shows all the way to her getting

1002
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 1: an egot. And now only in her eighties after her

1003
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 1: late husband passed away, was she able to like really

1004
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 1: get to know herself. Like it's just an amazing and

1005
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:39,840
Speaker 1: she there's a documentary about her coming out, but she's

1006
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:41,759
Speaker 1: in the New West Side. Apparently there's a role they

1007
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:44,440
Speaker 1: pretty much created for her, and apparently she's amazing. But

1008
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 1: there's just so much to celebrate in West Side coming out,

1009
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 1: And you know, Stephen Sondheim was and you know, if

1010
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:52,719
Speaker 1: you listen to this podcast enough, you know that we

1011
00:54:52,760 --> 00:55:00,160
Speaker 1: stand but I mean true legend and like genius out

1012
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 1: and like not in a way where you say, like, oh,

1013
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:06,279
Speaker 1: you know Selena Gomuz's album is genius. Now, this is

1014
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:09,799
Speaker 1: like a real this is a real genius. Like, um,

1015
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:12,360
Speaker 1: it's just not that Selena Gomos can't put out a

1016
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:15,320
Speaker 1: sound time level album, not that she doesn't have genius

1017
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 1: in her future. I'm just saying, if we in a

1018
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 1: world where I used her as an example, genius, icon,

1019
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 1: etcetera legend, you know, we throw around these words, this

1020
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 1: was a true Yeah. I mean I I almost He's

1021
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:34,719
Speaker 1: the kind of person that like it's immediately humbling to

1022
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:37,800
Speaker 1: me for me to say I have nothing to add

1023
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:41,319
Speaker 1: to like what what is being said about like this

1024
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:43,879
Speaker 1: man's life. Like I'm truly like what it like, it's

1025
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 1: all it's all been like considered and like appreciated at

1026
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 1: the right moment. Like and also what I love this

1027
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 1: is my this is such bullshit like whatever like Instagram

1028
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:57,760
Speaker 1: like inspiring quote, but like he really didn't like fully

1029
00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 1: like come into his like whatever, like he gives a

1030
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:02,240
Speaker 1: lot of people might put it like in his forties

1031
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:05,239
Speaker 1: and fifties, Like that's what I think is Also, I

1032
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:07,920
Speaker 1: don't know, it's a cool thing to think about maybe

1033
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 1: like yeah, it's just like I think I think Sunday

1034
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 1: came Sunday the Park came out, like I think when

1035
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:16,960
Speaker 1: he was like late forties, early fifties, that makes a

1036
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 1: lot of sense to me. I mean, I can't imagine

1037
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:23,920
Speaker 1: being capable artistically and creatively of the things he was

1038
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 1: at a young age. But then it's like, you know,

1039
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 1: and by the way, did you have you watched the

1040
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 1: movie Tech Tick Boom? I haven't yet, and I'm kind

1041
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:34,319
Speaker 1: of waiting for like I'm saving it for the right woman,

1042
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:36,799
Speaker 1: which I know is so annoying to hear. It is

1043
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 1: another fabulous mind right now. I watched it. It's also

1044
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:43,799
Speaker 1: on Netflix. Andrew Garfield is so incredible in it. Yeah,

1045
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 1: I mean, he's so amazing in it. And the movie

1046
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 1: is of course about Jonathan Larson. You know, it's about

1047
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 1: him basically struggling to become successful and you know, etcetera.

1048
00:56:56,880 --> 00:57:02,920
Speaker 1: And he revers and idolizes Stephen Sondheim, and the movie

1049
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 1: like treats Stephen Sondheim as this like huge character and

1050
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 1: basically it ends with him getting a note from Stevenson

1051
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 1: Teime that encourages him. And so this obviously, and Jonathan

1052
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:19,440
Speaker 1: Larson would end up writing Rent obviously, and that went on.

1053
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:22,800
Speaker 1: I think believe the story is he died on the

1054
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 1: night of or the night before the first preview of

1055
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:29,320
Speaker 1: Rent off Broadway or whatever, um and it would obviously

1056
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 1: go on to revolutionized modern musical theater. But the fact

1057
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 1: that this movie reveres him so, and that these people

1058
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 1: in musical theater revere himself, and that this movie is

1059
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 1: coming out now, it just does like I feel like

1060
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:47,440
Speaker 1: this very odd, eerie, perfect storm of you have to

1061
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 1: be you know, grateful for both the life that he

1062
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:52,440
Speaker 1: lived in the art that he gave, but also that

1063
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 1: he gets to really be truly celebrated, like by his

1064
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 1: legacy at his work at the time. If you're if

1065
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:03,920
Speaker 1: there's anything to be thankful about, are grateful about when

1066
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:07,920
Speaker 1: someone passes, at least that at least it's like that recognition,

1067
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 1: because I don't think like, as an artist and as

1068
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 1: a creator and as someone who has influenced so many,

1069
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 1: there's anything better than that to know that as we leave,

1070
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 1: there's this love for you, you you know, so just very special,

1071
00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:26,840
Speaker 1: very special. I think we can talk about either survivor

1072
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 1: or selling Sunset. I want, I want, I want to

1073
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 1: talk about both. And that's actually that's actually something I

1074
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 1: put my foot down a ut please, that's the last

1075
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 1: culture last culture flavor, because um wait, I just want

1076
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 1: to tell you, did you see that the Grammy nominations

1077
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 1: came out and there was the scandal I have been

1078
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 1: following the Grammys? Okay, So the Grammy nominations came out,

1079
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:50,480
Speaker 1: like and of course, the first episode of this podcast

1080
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 1: is called the Grammys, so we always have to like

1081
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 1: pay respects to our origins here. So the Grammy nominations

1082
00:58:57,280 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 1: came out and like there was ten nominees in all

1083
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:02,080
Speaker 1: the general categories and it's like mostly Olivia Rodrigo and

1084
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:05,720
Speaker 1: she'll like sweep and then the Taste and yeah yeah,

1085
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 1: so um, basically it came out that there was originally

1086
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 1: only going to be eight nominees for Album of the

1087
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:14,040
Speaker 1: Year and then they decided to add two more at

1088
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:16,440
Speaker 1: the last second, and it was Donna by Kanye West

1089
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:19,760
Speaker 1: and Evermore by Taylor Swift. That's what Okay, Yes, yes,

1090
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:25,479
Speaker 1: I have vaguely picked this up. Yeah, um, I mean whatever, Like,

1091
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:31,040
Speaker 1: who fucking cares. It's so stupid that that it's like

1092
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:35,479
Speaker 1: the Grammys continue to be a complete mess, Like there's

1093
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:39,080
Speaker 1: such a joke. It's so annoying. And then for that

1094
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:42,400
Speaker 1: to leak. It's so disrespectful to them. It makes them

1095
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:46,040
Speaker 1: look so bad as an award's body. It's just such flops.

1096
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:49,160
Speaker 1: And you know, I guess like ultimately all for nothing,

1097
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:51,960
Speaker 1: because you know, Olivia and driver's license is gonna walk

1098
00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:53,680
Speaker 1: out with all the awards. I would imagine maybe a

1099
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:56,520
Speaker 1: little nas X wins album, but I mean, I mean,

1100
00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:59,120
Speaker 1: oh but we do. Let's give a shout out to

1101
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:05,560
Speaker 1: Japanese Brakfast for being a Grammy nominee. Fucking great year

1102
01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:08,600
Speaker 1: for her. Came in with the book, came in with

1103
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:13,560
Speaker 1: a new album. It's so good. Um, congrats Michelle's honor.

1104
01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:16,920
Speaker 1: I'm talking about her as if she's like a friend

1105
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:19,560
Speaker 1: of the pod. She's not. I just I did one

1106
01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:24,640
Speaker 1: book event with her over Zoo in the winter, and

1107
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:27,480
Speaker 1: I don't know, I feel like we're friends, were not,

1108
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 1: We're not. Well, it's great to derive some positive out

1109
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:33,000
Speaker 1: of their Grammy nomination. I was like, are you kidding here?

1110
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:34,880
Speaker 1: And then when that controversy came out, I was like,

1111
01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:38,520
Speaker 1: oh god, they really can't help themselves, Like, just don't

1112
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:42,360
Speaker 1: have it leak. How does that happen? I know, I know. Wait,

1113
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:44,840
Speaker 1: speaking of music, what's your favorite track on thirty we

1114
01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:48,320
Speaker 1: didn't talk about my God. I'm sorry we didn't talk

1115
01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:50,280
Speaker 1: about dirty last week because we had Wendy on and

1116
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:54,640
Speaker 1: we couldn't distract from the conversation. Um my favorite talk

1117
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:58,840
Speaker 1: off thirty Cryer, Heart Out and Love is a Game.

1118
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:01,840
Speaker 1: I texted you when ye when I first heard Love

1119
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:04,600
Speaker 1: is a Game at this with doing the concert special

1120
01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:06,600
Speaker 1: and I was like, this is a gorgeous song, new

1121
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:12,600
Speaker 1: classic classic loved. I mean the vocals on to be Loved,

1122
01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:14,160
Speaker 1: that the and it's just like and then I saw

1123
01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:15,960
Speaker 1: an interview with her and she's like, I'll never sing it,

1124
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 1: live it. I can't. Who could? And then she pushes

1125
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:23,960
Speaker 1: on her Instagram doing it like ripping it in her Yeah,

1126
01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:27,640
Speaker 1: just killed it. I mean she's never sounded better, Like

1127
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:32,600
Speaker 1: the vocals are warm, lubricated, yeah yeah, but deep but

1128
01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:35,840
Speaker 1: still deep. Oh we love it. I mean she's like

1129
01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:41,320
Speaker 1: giving you like clean melisma, like she's she's just like

1130
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:43,440
Speaker 1: she is like an instrument. She never doesn't hit the

1131
01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:47,240
Speaker 1: note like she's really just and you feel it, you

1132
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:49,360
Speaker 1: feel it, you know what I really kind of like

1133
01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:54,280
Speaker 1: responding to in my like what I tried to really

1134
01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:58,480
Speaker 1: internalize from her Oprah interview was when she was like

1135
01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:00,440
Speaker 1: when Ober asks her about like where the always comes

1136
01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:02,160
Speaker 1: from or whatever, and she's just like, I feel like

1137
01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:05,280
Speaker 1: I like, I like connect with something bigger and a

1138
01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:07,560
Speaker 1: lot of artists say this, but like she's like whenever

1139
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:09,800
Speaker 1: she's like whenever I sing, like I'm not I'm not

1140
01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 1: like really in my body or something. Right, she was

1141
01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:14,320
Speaker 1: she was like, I'm kind of like I'm not aware

1142
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:17,680
Speaker 1: of what I'm doing, and like she's connecting with some

1143
01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:21,880
Speaker 1: like I don't know, like she's channeling. She's channeling, Yes,

1144
01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:23,520
Speaker 1: that's what she said, and so like I'm trying to

1145
01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:27,120
Speaker 1: like do that more. Does that sound so stupid? No,

1146
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:29,200
Speaker 1: I'm trying. I'm trying to Like I'm trying to do

1147
01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:31,120
Speaker 1: that when I'm like writing, when I'm like trying to

1148
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:34,480
Speaker 1: come up with like an idea, I'm like, let me

1149
01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:37,040
Speaker 1: just think less, let me just like think up like

1150
01:02:37,240 --> 01:02:38,880
Speaker 1: I don't not not that that's the direction of it,

1151
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:41,840
Speaker 1: like like crown chakra, like let me just like connect

1152
01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:45,080
Speaker 1: with the bigger thing. And I don't know, I'm like

1153
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:47,560
Speaker 1: she easily like getting into that. No, I mean a

1154
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:51,520
Speaker 1: d percent. I'm like it's whatever. People can drag me

1155
01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:58,120
Speaker 1: for this if they want. But even today, like Henry

1156
01:02:58,160 --> 01:03:00,280
Speaker 1: and I were on the songs, and I think I

1157
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:02,160
Speaker 1: had a more difficult time with the first like three

1158
01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:04,120
Speaker 1: or four, just because I was getting back into it.

1159
01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:10,240
Speaker 1: Also it's Christmas is and that's the first song. So

1160
01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:12,080
Speaker 1: that's that's that one, and then it goes right into

1161
01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:15,280
Speaker 1: the second song, which is vocally difficult, and then ballad

1162
01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:17,200
Speaker 1: start and so there's But there's a song that I

1163
01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:19,920
Speaker 1: do six in my show, which is my favorite thing

1164
01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:23,040
Speaker 1: I've ever written, as the fame thing I've ever done.

1165
01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:26,280
Speaker 1: It's called Every Christmas Eve. It's my Mrs Claus song,

1166
01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:30,280
Speaker 1: and it's actually one of the more vocally tough ones.

1167
01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:32,520
Speaker 1: But I said to Henry after we did it, because

1168
01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:34,640
Speaker 1: I felt really good about the way I went today,

1169
01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:37,520
Speaker 1: and he I could tell he did too, And I

1170
01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:39,360
Speaker 1: was like, you know what's easy about that one is

1171
01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:43,640
Speaker 1: because you really just try to tell the story to

1172
01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:48,560
Speaker 1: feel it and like honestly do do little lyrical analysis

1173
01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:50,600
Speaker 1: in it, like even if that was my own writing,

1174
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:53,760
Speaker 1: just like to try to like think less about like

1175
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:56,280
Speaker 1: whether or not your voice feels good, or whether or

1176
01:03:56,320 --> 01:03:58,560
Speaker 1: not you're being funny, or whether or not whatever, and

1177
01:03:58,560 --> 01:04:01,240
Speaker 1: it's just actually a lot more simple. It's about just

1178
01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:04,200
Speaker 1: like like just getting the work across, you know what

1179
01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:06,680
Speaker 1: I mean, just just because it is actually all about

1180
01:04:06,680 --> 01:04:09,240
Speaker 1: telling stories like when you're a comedian, when you're a

1181
01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:14,400
Speaker 1: performer or whatever, like just focusing on the articulation of

1182
01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:18,880
Speaker 1: it and less about the bullshit that is, like you know,

1183
01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:21,760
Speaker 1: whether the notes are right, or whether like or whether

1184
01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:24,320
Speaker 1: or whether I'm on my mark or whatever. This thing,

1185
01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:26,800
Speaker 1: I'm like, yes, that's annoying, but like it's it's like

1186
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:29,880
Speaker 1: fru fru or whatever, but it actually does help you

1187
01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:33,400
Speaker 1: free up and discover things as a performer. I love

1188
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:36,120
Speaker 1: that you're incorporating this in your own work as you

1189
01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:38,840
Speaker 1: lead up to your shows. I also just want to

1190
01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:44,920
Speaker 1: say this reminded me of the way that Taylor Swift

1191
01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:48,560
Speaker 1: has talked about songwriting. Do you know this where She's like,

1192
01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:51,760
Speaker 1: the best way I can describe songwriting is there's like

1193
01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:54,120
Speaker 1: a magical cloud in front of you, and you're supposed

1194
01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:57,280
Speaker 1: to catch it before it goes away, Like like you're

1195
01:04:57,320 --> 01:05:01,280
Speaker 1: supposed to capture this thing. You're supposed to capture this

1196
01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:03,720
Speaker 1: like magical thing that you can't touch, you can't grap,

1197
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:05,760
Speaker 1: you gotta like get it down on like paper or

1198
01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:09,520
Speaker 1: something like before before it leaves you. And I'm like,

1199
01:05:09,640 --> 01:05:11,960
Speaker 1: that is kind of maybe the same fur fuit thing

1200
01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:14,880
Speaker 1: where it's like you're supposed to like commune with this

1201
01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:17,320
Speaker 1: thing that comes to you that passes by and you

1202
01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:20,560
Speaker 1: have to have to like get it down before it

1203
01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:24,000
Speaker 1: leaves you. I don't I don't know about you, but almost,

1204
01:05:24,080 --> 01:05:28,520
Speaker 1: I'm feeling twenty two almost And you know that she

1205
01:05:28,560 --> 01:05:30,880
Speaker 1: wrote that in a state of channeling. Oh my god,

1206
01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:41,120
Speaker 1: it's rural culture number thirty nine. When um, but it's

1207
01:05:41,160 --> 01:05:43,680
Speaker 1: so rare that when I labor over something or work

1208
01:05:43,720 --> 01:05:46,640
Speaker 1: on something really hard that it ends up being really good. Meanwhile,

1209
01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:49,080
Speaker 1: it's like when I chipped something out or like something

1210
01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:53,120
Speaker 1: just it is so much well, I don't know. It's

1211
01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:54,640
Speaker 1: just like when I think about the things I'm really

1212
01:05:54,680 --> 01:05:57,560
Speaker 1: proud of the things that I'm like still performing now,

1213
01:05:57,880 --> 01:06:01,240
Speaker 1: it's usually stuff that came very leads me. Yeah, I know,

1214
01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:04,080
Speaker 1: I know. Oh I love that, And that's such a

1215
01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:06,920
Speaker 1: good feeling. It's such a good feeling when it just

1216
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:08,640
Speaker 1: kind of flows out and for some people like it

1217
01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:10,600
Speaker 1: just happens. I feel like you are one of those

1218
01:06:10,680 --> 01:06:13,800
Speaker 1: people where it just really does it flows out of you.

1219
01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:17,480
Speaker 1: When it happens. It happens when, But I'm saying it's

1220
01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:19,000
Speaker 1: not about when it happens or when it doesn't. I'm

1221
01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:22,760
Speaker 1: saying it happens often for you. And that is what's

1222
01:06:22,800 --> 01:06:26,480
Speaker 1: beautiful for me. Like it's I don't know, there's there

1223
01:06:26,520 --> 01:06:29,520
Speaker 1: this figot is fucked because I'm like, that's it's a

1224
01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:32,080
Speaker 1: slow drip. You have to create all the time though

1225
01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:34,680
Speaker 1: that I think that's that's the difference, Just like this

1226
01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:36,360
Speaker 1: is this is what I've never gotten about us and

1227
01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:38,240
Speaker 1: now and I'll just be totally transparent about of this.

1228
01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:45,920
Speaker 1: You guys, basically to create the thing, it's so hard,

1229
01:06:46,280 --> 01:06:49,760
Speaker 1: like it's one day, I know, And that to me

1230
01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:51,600
Speaker 1: is like I get, I get that it's like a

1231
01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:54,840
Speaker 1: scheduling thing, and I get that that's just the way

1232
01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:58,120
Speaker 1: it works. But I just always thought about, like what

1233
01:06:58,200 --> 01:07:00,800
Speaker 1: if somebody has a brilliant idea and of course, like

1234
01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:02,920
Speaker 1: things happen in the news and that it gets channeled

1235
01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:05,000
Speaker 1: through to the cold open and stuff, and that's not

1236
01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:08,560
Speaker 1: not a part of the show. But so like creativity

1237
01:07:08,720 --> 01:07:12,240
Speaker 1: is so not necessarily like that, and you'd have to

1238
01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:14,160
Speaker 1: be such a specific type of person to be able

1239
01:07:14,200 --> 01:07:16,480
Speaker 1: to just be like, Okay, sitting down to do this

1240
01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:18,240
Speaker 1: during a lot of time, and this is what I'm

1241
01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:19,800
Speaker 1: going to get it right, you know, which I know

1242
01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:22,920
Speaker 1: is not as basic as it is. But no, no, no, no, um.

1243
01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:25,600
Speaker 1: The thing that happens most often, and I think maybe

1244
01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:30,200
Speaker 1: the saddest thing that happens, is you have a great

1245
01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:34,080
Speaker 1: idea but then and this is what you're saying, basically,

1246
01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:38,040
Speaker 1: but like you burn it that week because you just

1247
01:07:38,160 --> 01:07:41,280
Speaker 1: didn't execute you didn't get the right time to like

1248
01:07:41,400 --> 01:07:44,000
Speaker 1: execute it the right way. And so then like you

1249
01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:45,600
Speaker 1: do it in front of all your co workers on

1250
01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:50,720
Speaker 1: Wednesday and then fucking bombs and then instinct on it,

1251
01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:52,760
Speaker 1: and then more likely than not, you're never gonna like

1252
01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:54,800
Speaker 1: use that idea again when it might have been a

1253
01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:59,800
Speaker 1: perfectly great idea because I this is my example. Nudie

1254
01:07:59,840 --> 01:08:01,760
Speaker 1: and I wrote a sketch last season where it was

1255
01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:04,160
Speaker 1: all about it was me and John Maliney playing a

1256
01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:08,040
Speaker 1: couple and our thing was that we kept swallowing in

1257
01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:11,760
Speaker 1: the middle of sentences like it just it just and

1258
01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:15,080
Speaker 1: then like which like, I like, I'm really hung up

1259
01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:18,000
Speaker 1: about this because like it could have been, it could

1260
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:19,760
Speaker 1: have been something great and we just didn't get it

1261
01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:21,800
Speaker 1: the first time, and now like I can never do it.

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01:08:21,960 --> 01:08:24,160
Speaker 1: I kind of feel like I can't bring it up again.

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01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:26,479
Speaker 1: It would be iconic if you did that. Every table read,

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01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:29,599
Speaker 1: like just every table read tried to make the swallowing

1265
01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:32,120
Speaker 1: in the middle of sentences thing happened, like would actually

1266
01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:35,920
Speaker 1: be oh, because it's the dumbest day. It's like half

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01:08:35,960 --> 01:08:38,439
Speaker 1: an idea. But it didn't. It happen with Vanessa though, Like,

1268
01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:40,720
Speaker 1: isn't it a thing? Like, Oh, how do it happen?

1269
01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:43,240
Speaker 1: Everyone has one of these stories, like, everyone has one

1270
01:08:43,280 --> 01:08:46,200
Speaker 1: of these. Everyone has their like white Whale or you know,

1271
01:08:46,400 --> 01:08:48,960
Speaker 1: or that you keep trying to get in or not

1272
01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:50,880
Speaker 1: that you keep trying to that you can't. You can't

1273
01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:53,400
Speaker 1: like you can't you know capture, I don't know, you

1274
01:08:53,400 --> 01:08:57,200
Speaker 1: can't like find it. And so that's mine for now.

1275
01:08:57,600 --> 01:08:59,840
Speaker 1: Um My other one is I want to see that

1276
01:09:00,200 --> 01:09:02,920
Speaker 1: Julie and I have written several sequels at this point

1277
01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:06,120
Speaker 1: to Sarah Lee, and none of them have gotten picked.

1278
01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:09,559
Speaker 1: I can't believe that that's true. It's crazy to me.

1279
01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:11,679
Speaker 1: Do you want to do you want to know something? Yes,

1280
01:09:12,160 --> 01:09:15,000
Speaker 1: I won't reveal to who, but I had to run

1281
01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:17,280
Speaker 1: it by one of the producers when Shalami was hosting.

1282
01:09:17,320 --> 01:09:19,400
Speaker 1: I was like who I was, like Julie and I

1283
01:09:19,439 --> 01:09:22,639
Speaker 1: wrote a follow up to Sarah Lee for Timothy. It's

1284
01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:25,000
Speaker 1: called Chef Boy r D. It's really we think it's

1285
01:09:25,040 --> 01:09:29,479
Speaker 1: really funny. Um. And then this producer says, you know,

1286
01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:31,400
Speaker 1: I think we've done it too many times, and I

1287
01:09:31,479 --> 01:09:34,880
Speaker 1: was like, We've only done it once. And I think

1288
01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:36,720
Speaker 1: what he meant was I brought it to table too

1289
01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:41,720
Speaker 1: many times, which is another thing. I'm like, oh well, now,

1290
01:09:41,840 --> 01:09:44,600
Speaker 1: like I ruined this, like what one of my proudest

1291
01:09:45,000 --> 01:09:47,840
Speaker 1: like pieces of writing. Sarah Lee like, I hate that,

1292
01:09:47,920 --> 01:09:51,640
Speaker 1: like it's it's there's no like after, there's no like

1293
01:09:51,720 --> 01:09:55,160
Speaker 1: second life for it. You know what? Though sometimes whatever

1294
01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:59,719
Speaker 1: I'm not dragging anything about, Like sometimes I'm really happy

1295
01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:01,679
Speaker 1: to see things come back, and I would be thrilled

1296
01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:03,679
Speaker 1: to see that come back maybe one or two more times.

1297
01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:06,840
Speaker 1: There have been some sketches where it's like, all right,

1298
01:10:06,840 --> 01:10:10,280
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say it, Gilly. I think it was

1299
01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:14,240
Speaker 1: done twelve times, because that's why it's so I don't know.

1300
01:10:14,680 --> 01:10:18,080
Speaker 1: I think it listed for of course, of course, like

1301
01:10:18,120 --> 01:10:21,120
Speaker 1: by the third one, everyone's like truly, no one's laughing

1302
01:10:21,120 --> 01:10:23,760
Speaker 1: at it in eight h but like, I think there's

1303
01:10:23,960 --> 01:10:27,599
Speaker 1: there's a meta humor layer here that I think Kristen

1304
01:10:27,640 --> 01:10:33,000
Speaker 1: would cop to, where yeah in again like Gilly's in again,

1305
01:10:33,040 --> 01:10:35,280
Speaker 1: Like that's part of why it's funny, because it's like

1306
01:10:35,400 --> 01:10:39,920
Speaker 1: the one joke never it's like that with one up

1307
01:10:39,960 --> 01:10:41,960
Speaker 1: with that too? What up with that? At one time?

1308
01:10:42,160 --> 01:10:46,000
Speaker 1: Was was SNL, like was Saturdaynight Live? Like what up

1309
01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:47,639
Speaker 1: with that? Happen? And you know what I never got

1310
01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:51,160
Speaker 1: tired of. I mean, we'll just deep house dish Deep Dish, no,

1311
01:10:51,320 --> 01:10:53,840
Speaker 1: because at least the songs were different or whatever, But

1312
01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:57,120
Speaker 1: I never they need to bring deep passage back because

1313
01:10:57,160 --> 01:11:00,680
Speaker 1: let's not pretend that Keenan isn't still there, like we

1314
01:11:00,840 --> 01:11:04,000
Speaker 1: need can you pitch Deep Past Dish? Well, James Anderson

1315
01:11:04,160 --> 01:11:09,679
Speaker 1: doesn't work there anymore, Mama towards passed towards. I know. No,

1316
01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:12,679
Speaker 1: I'm gonna text him. I'm gonna text him, Please gives

1317
01:11:12,720 --> 01:11:15,400
Speaker 1: the blessing to do Deep Past Dish again because the

1318
01:11:15,479 --> 01:11:17,760
Speaker 1: new kids need Deep Past Dish. It would hit now

1319
01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:22,320
Speaker 1: more than ever. Really, you should text James. In fact, everybody,

1320
01:11:22,360 --> 01:11:25,479
Speaker 1: the readers. One day when I host when when Matt

1321
01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:27,639
Speaker 1: hosts will do it. But I think the readers should

1322
01:11:27,640 --> 01:11:30,639
Speaker 1: try to try to communicate. I'm not saying bombard James

1323
01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:32,640
Speaker 1: with DMS. Actually now I take it back, but I

1324
01:11:32,680 --> 01:11:35,400
Speaker 1: think James needs to be like, quote unquote pulled out

1325
01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:38,439
Speaker 1: of retirement for one last deep house dish. When you

1326
01:11:38,479 --> 01:11:43,320
Speaker 1: all agree, I do. I mean, you know what I said.

1327
01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:47,920
Speaker 1: I do know, I'm just I do. That was iconic.

1328
01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:51,160
Speaker 1: That's actually wow. See that's what I'm saying. The flow

1329
01:11:51,280 --> 01:11:54,280
Speaker 1: state baby, Well you know what I'm jealous of. I'm

1330
01:11:54,320 --> 01:11:57,240
Speaker 1: actually really jealous because, um, you know, obviously it's well

1331
01:11:57,240 --> 01:12:01,479
Speaker 1: today we're recording on Cyber Monday, and Ira posted like

1332
01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:04,200
Speaker 1: his keep it merch, and I was like, why don't

1333
01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:07,120
Speaker 1: we do Last Culture Merge? Like I want Lost Culture merge,

1334
01:12:07,160 --> 01:12:09,400
Speaker 1: Like there's so much good merch we could do. We've

1335
01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:11,960
Speaker 1: we we had a merch period. There's still some items

1336
01:12:11,960 --> 01:12:13,599
Speaker 1: that you can buy off of Tea public We are

1337
01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:16,400
Speaker 1: looking for a new platform. Let's just we're looking for

1338
01:12:16,439 --> 01:12:19,760
Speaker 1: a new vendor. Readers formerly publicist. Would you buy Last

1339
01:12:19,840 --> 01:12:22,559
Speaker 1: Culture Merch? I mean we know the answer is yes,

1340
01:12:23,320 --> 01:12:27,000
Speaker 1: I would love. Everyone's very enthusiastic and that's I was

1341
01:12:27,080 --> 01:12:30,160
Speaker 1: thinking the other day. I was like, God, I'm so lucky, grateful,

1342
01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:36,040
Speaker 1: thankful for I'm Actually I'm absolutely emotional most of the

1343
01:12:36,120 --> 01:12:39,080
Speaker 1: time when I think, oh my god, the readers are

1344
01:12:39,080 --> 01:12:41,839
Speaker 1: the most special people. The readers have given me everything.

1345
01:12:41,920 --> 01:12:44,880
Speaker 1: Do you think i'd be selling out these shows? There's

1346
01:12:44,920 --> 01:12:47,439
Speaker 1: no way. I know they're all readers. I'm talking about

1347
01:12:47,439 --> 01:12:51,519
Speaker 1: them like I'm trying to be careful about not making

1348
01:12:51,560 --> 01:12:55,559
Speaker 1: them sound like fucking like pop star stands. That's no.

1349
01:12:56,960 --> 01:12:58,760
Speaker 1: They know who they are. First of all, we just

1350
01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:00,639
Speaker 1: fired them, so I have to be nice to them.

1351
01:13:00,720 --> 01:13:03,200
Speaker 1: We have to be nice to them. They've all fed,

1352
01:13:05,160 --> 01:13:09,439
Speaker 1: they lost their jobs. Now, okay, so before we start

1353
01:13:09,439 --> 01:13:11,280
Speaker 1: crying because of the readers, we have talked about selling

1354
01:13:11,320 --> 01:13:14,960
Speaker 1: Sunset and then we have this is a long episode,

1355
01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:19,800
Speaker 1: and that's fine selling Sunset. I haven't evenished. I will say,

1356
01:13:19,880 --> 01:13:22,479
Speaker 1: what are your basic general reactions? Because I have a few,

1357
01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:25,960
Speaker 1: you know, Okay, this is I at a state of

1358
01:13:26,040 --> 01:13:29,479
Speaker 1: half sleep, have this realization. It's not a realization, but

1359
01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:31,160
Speaker 1: like I think everyone knows at this point that it's

1360
01:13:31,160 --> 01:13:34,600
Speaker 1: like the most mindless show that's ever been made. But

1361
01:13:34,760 --> 01:13:37,880
Speaker 1: I really do think like there's something pretty amazing about

1362
01:13:37,920 --> 01:13:40,960
Speaker 1: like Adam de Velo between like the Hills and Selling Sunset,

1363
01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:44,160
Speaker 1: Like it feels like they're speaking a different language. Does

1364
01:13:44,200 --> 01:13:46,360
Speaker 1: that make sense? Like they're they're they're they're talking, they're

1365
01:13:46,439 --> 01:13:49,880
Speaker 1: using a different vocabulary. I think I think they must all.

1366
01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:53,280
Speaker 1: I think when you're on the show, the producers hand

1367
01:13:53,320 --> 01:13:55,920
Speaker 1: you a sheet of paper and on that paper it

1368
01:13:56,040 --> 01:14:00,800
Speaker 1: says one hundred words total, and they tell the producers say,

1369
01:14:00,960 --> 01:14:03,719
Speaker 1: you can only whatever comes out of your mouth has

1370
01:14:03,800 --> 01:14:06,760
Speaker 1: to be from this list of one hundred words. You

1371
01:14:06,920 --> 01:14:11,760
Speaker 1: cannot say anything besides these words. That actually is a

1372
01:14:13,280 --> 01:14:15,160
Speaker 1: and that is my realization with And I love that

1373
01:14:15,200 --> 01:14:18,760
Speaker 1: one of those words is escrow. You know what I mean,

1374
01:14:19,439 --> 01:14:23,960
Speaker 1: Escrow conceded, Like when Emma said, like when Emma, Emma

1375
01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:26,240
Speaker 1: just celebrated in her chair and by lifting up her

1376
01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:30,960
Speaker 1: waif thin arms and she goes, well I'm in escrow,

1377
01:14:31,240 --> 01:14:34,080
Speaker 1: and they were like escrow and they were just screaming

1378
01:14:34,080 --> 01:14:37,000
Speaker 1: the word escrow. And I was like, wow, I'm obsessed

1379
01:14:37,040 --> 01:14:41,479
Speaker 1: with each and every one of these young women. Young women. Um.

1380
01:14:41,720 --> 01:14:44,640
Speaker 1: I think I think Vanessa and Emma are great additions.

1381
01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:48,559
Speaker 1: As Emma. I can't tell if I'm on her side

1382
01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:51,040
Speaker 1: or not. She's the smallest face in the world. She

1383
01:14:51,120 --> 01:14:53,479
Speaker 1: has the smallest, the tiniest chin. I was just gonna

1384
01:14:53,520 --> 01:14:56,240
Speaker 1: say she has a tiny little head. She's like in

1385
01:14:56,280 --> 01:14:59,000
Speaker 1: the best way. She's like that alien and men in

1386
01:14:59,040 --> 01:15:01,720
Speaker 1: black with the tiny head, but a gorgeous version of

1387
01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:04,559
Speaker 1: gorgeous version who runs a vegan food company, which we

1388
01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:09,320
Speaker 1: stand weighs seventy six pounds. I do love that she

1389
01:15:09,439 --> 01:15:11,800
Speaker 1: like runs like a vegan company, and yet she still

1390
01:15:11,840 --> 01:15:14,920
Speaker 1: takes private jets. It's like, okay, well think that they

1391
01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:18,400
Speaker 1: cancel that beautifully. I love that she should marry Leonardo DiCaprio.

1392
01:15:18,760 --> 01:15:22,439
Speaker 1: They're all made for each other. They love her. Vanessa

1393
01:15:22,720 --> 01:15:25,519
Speaker 1: is iconic. Loved her sob story in the beginning that

1394
01:15:25,560 --> 01:15:28,000
Speaker 1: her sister god and then she became a real estate

1395
01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:30,280
Speaker 1: agent because of her, and now she's sort of like

1396
01:15:30,479 --> 01:15:33,000
Speaker 1: little Christine. She's a villain at least in at least

1397
01:15:33,040 --> 01:15:37,080
Speaker 1: in the part that we're on. Okay, should we play

1398
01:15:37,160 --> 01:15:39,840
Speaker 1: this game now that now that we have it? Because

1399
01:15:39,880 --> 01:15:41,840
Speaker 1: you and I checked in earlier in the week when

1400
01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:43,920
Speaker 1: Selling Sunset Season four was about to drop, and you

1401
01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:46,160
Speaker 1: were like are you You were like you said I

1402
01:15:46,200 --> 01:15:48,720
Speaker 1: was a Cruschelle, which I took offense to. Now, I

1403
01:15:48,760 --> 01:15:51,040
Speaker 1: didn't say you were Cristelle. I said I was. I

1404
01:15:51,080 --> 01:15:54,559
Speaker 1: said that you were married. I'm I also, I'm sorry

1405
01:15:54,560 --> 01:15:56,760
Speaker 1: I took offense to you calling me Mary. And here's

1406
01:15:56,760 --> 01:15:58,600
Speaker 1: what I'll say. The more I watched it, I was like,

1407
01:15:58,680 --> 01:16:00,320
Speaker 1: he is not married, because let me tell you who's

1408
01:16:00,360 --> 01:16:03,160
Speaker 1: lost it Mary. If you watch this, if you watch

1409
01:16:03,280 --> 01:16:06,760
Speaker 1: season one to season four, it is a case study

1410
01:16:06,920 --> 01:16:11,559
Speaker 1: in in reality television breaking someone Mary is Mary is

1411
01:16:11,960 --> 01:16:15,799
Speaker 1: going crazy being on this show. And the first season

1412
01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:18,479
Speaker 1: she she was kind of the most likable person. She

1413
01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:20,960
Speaker 1: was the most grounded, and you can that's the one.

1414
01:16:20,960 --> 01:16:22,840
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sorry, I yeah, just like just someone

1415
01:16:22,880 --> 01:16:25,800
Speaker 1: that like the audience surrogate, like, oh, like this is

1416
01:16:25,840 --> 01:16:28,840
Speaker 1: the person who like is most like me sitting at home.

1417
01:16:28,920 --> 01:16:33,040
Speaker 1: Her breakdown at the dog party was truly iconic. I mean,

1418
01:16:33,040 --> 01:16:35,479
Speaker 1: the dog's birthday party and she goes, you know, Jason,

1419
01:16:35,560 --> 01:16:37,280
Speaker 1: we spent a lot of money on this. This is

1420
01:16:37,320 --> 01:16:40,280
Speaker 1: our friends and our dogs, and it's our dog's birthday.

1421
01:16:40,400 --> 01:16:42,479
Speaker 1: And she came in and she's gonna start drama at

1422
01:16:42,520 --> 01:16:45,960
Speaker 1: the dog's birthday. And I was just like, this is

1423
01:16:46,640 --> 01:16:51,800
Speaker 1: absolutely unhinged, all because Christine came to the dogs. Every

1424
01:16:51,800 --> 01:16:55,719
Speaker 1: time Christine enters a room, I laugh and applaud. Okay,

1425
01:16:55,760 --> 01:16:59,280
Speaker 1: I'm on episode six and at least five different times

1426
01:16:59,280 --> 01:17:03,519
Speaker 1: this has happened. Christine and may are together, Maya goes wow,

1427
01:17:04,280 --> 01:17:06,519
Speaker 1: like I believe you just had a babe had a

1428
01:17:06,520 --> 01:17:10,160
Speaker 1: baby that a week. I can't have the baby like

1429
01:17:10,240 --> 01:17:13,559
Speaker 1: that four different times, like like like go back and

1430
01:17:13,600 --> 01:17:17,280
Speaker 1: like watch it, like like so many repetitive I'm telling you.

1431
01:17:17,320 --> 01:17:19,639
Speaker 1: They were given a list of words and they could

1432
01:17:19,640 --> 01:17:24,040
Speaker 1: only say things from this list. The least thing is

1433
01:17:24,080 --> 01:17:29,519
Speaker 1: doing great impressions her Instagram, Maya is iconic. Christie her

1434
01:17:29,560 --> 01:17:31,559
Speaker 1: tweeted out the other day where she was like, Maya

1435
01:17:31,680 --> 01:17:34,040
Speaker 1: is the best character because she's she gets to sit

1436
01:17:34,080 --> 01:17:35,800
Speaker 1: there and just comments on all the drama and have

1437
01:17:35,920 --> 01:17:37,880
Speaker 1: nothing go on in her life and just basically say

1438
01:17:37,920 --> 01:17:41,320
Speaker 1: wow and it it is so funny. Also, this is

1439
01:17:41,360 --> 01:17:45,400
Speaker 1: gonna sound crazy, but let me know if you agree. Okay,

1440
01:17:45,640 --> 01:17:50,639
Speaker 1: when Davina came back, I actually was obsessed. I missed Davina.

1441
01:17:51,520 --> 01:17:54,439
Speaker 1: I mean, she's clearly like an integral part of the show.

1442
01:17:55,240 --> 01:17:59,960
Speaker 1: I just think she's so funny. She's just so fun

1443
01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:03,840
Speaker 1: me in like the most unintentional ways, Like she just

1444
01:18:03,880 --> 01:18:09,439
Speaker 1: what a fucking what a buffoon? I love her, I

1445
01:18:09,479 --> 01:18:12,200
Speaker 1: love like what she brings to the show. I just think, like,

1446
01:18:12,280 --> 01:18:15,720
Speaker 1: you can't take her seriously. You can't take most of

1447
01:18:15,720 --> 01:18:19,599
Speaker 1: these people seriously, including bretton Jason. Oh please, I did

1448
01:18:19,640 --> 01:18:22,439
Speaker 1: not know that Jason and Krishell were full on dating.

1449
01:18:22,479 --> 01:18:26,280
Speaker 1: Now what you didn't know this? Okay, So this rocked

1450
01:18:26,280 --> 01:18:30,120
Speaker 1: my world. So season five is basically going to be

1451
01:18:30,160 --> 01:18:34,240
Speaker 1: about how Crishell and Jason Oppenheim are now like in

1452
01:18:34,280 --> 01:18:39,240
Speaker 1: a serious romantic relationship. And that'll be like the second

1453
01:18:39,320 --> 01:18:41,120
Speaker 1: or third one he's dated in the office, because obviously

1454
01:18:41,120 --> 01:18:43,200
Speaker 1: he was with Mary. They owned that dog together, that

1455
01:18:43,360 --> 01:18:46,320
Speaker 1: the birthday party. Every time I say these words, I'm like,

1456
01:18:46,479 --> 01:18:49,760
Speaker 1: I can't believe it. I just watched the episode where

1457
01:18:49,800 --> 01:18:54,800
Speaker 1: Krishell and Simulo are like about to fuck, which he

1458
01:18:54,880 --> 01:18:57,200
Speaker 1: did look really hot. Oh yeah, of course he's a

1459
01:18:57,280 --> 01:19:01,120
Speaker 1: very attractive person. I just like, so, I don't know

1460
01:19:01,240 --> 01:19:05,320
Speaker 1: what they keep cutting to Jason. Now watch watch they

1461
01:19:05,400 --> 01:19:07,760
Speaker 1: keep cutting to Jason, who like notices that you're right,

1462
01:19:07,800 --> 01:19:10,840
Speaker 1: they do keep cutting to Jason. That's so funny. So

1463
01:19:10,880 --> 01:19:14,599
Speaker 1: they're building it into the narrative because eventually they get together.

1464
01:19:14,920 --> 01:19:18,160
Speaker 1: Christl Stouse every time she walks she she opens double

1465
01:19:18,200 --> 01:19:20,760
Speaker 1: doors and walks out to a balcony and smiles at

1466
01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:23,640
Speaker 1: the sun. I'm like, you are the protagonists, aren't you?

1467
01:19:23,840 --> 01:19:27,160
Speaker 1: Snow white? Rachel Zegler move over. I actually I couldn't

1468
01:19:27,160 --> 01:19:30,080
Speaker 1: stand Rachelle before this season. I'm like, okay, cool, Like,

1469
01:19:30,200 --> 01:19:33,000
Speaker 1: I'm kind of with you. I like that she's standing

1470
01:19:33,040 --> 01:19:35,320
Speaker 1: up for herself. When they were like, okay, guys, group meetings,

1471
01:19:35,320 --> 01:19:37,080
Speaker 1: she'll be hired back to Vina, she was like, no,

1472
01:19:37,240 --> 01:19:39,559
Speaker 1: I don't think so. She was really rude to me,

1473
01:19:39,760 --> 01:19:41,880
Speaker 1: and I don't fucking like it. And she said when

1474
01:19:41,920 --> 01:19:44,000
Speaker 1: she said like I don't, I don't fuck I fucking

1475
01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:46,120
Speaker 1: think so. I fucking don't agree. I was like, come on,

1476
01:19:46,240 --> 01:19:48,880
Speaker 1: christ I actually love that. And actually, what a what

1477
01:19:49,000 --> 01:19:51,240
Speaker 1: a perfect play on her part to be like, Okay,

1478
01:19:51,240 --> 01:19:53,120
Speaker 1: I've been a little too guileless on this show. Let

1479
01:19:53,160 --> 01:19:55,839
Speaker 1: me actually like grow a spine. And like when Davina

1480
01:19:55,920 --> 01:19:58,360
Speaker 1: apologizes to her, oh I didn't see that yet. I'm

1481
01:19:58,400 --> 01:20:02,000
Speaker 1: so excited. Becau said she didn't want their apology right.

1482
01:20:02,040 --> 01:20:04,879
Speaker 1: It's a great moment for Chrish like she handles it perfectly.

1483
01:20:05,280 --> 01:20:09,400
Speaker 1: I'm really proud of her. I'm really excited. Anyway, It's

1484
01:20:09,400 --> 01:20:12,160
Speaker 1: the dumbest show ever made, but we love it. Christine

1485
01:20:12,360 --> 01:20:16,120
Speaker 1: is television, of course. But she was on the cover

1486
01:20:16,160 --> 01:20:18,599
Speaker 1: of some magazine I forget which, but they called her

1487
01:20:18,920 --> 01:20:22,679
Speaker 1: reality TVs Queen of Camp. Let's cut it out. Let's

1488
01:20:22,680 --> 01:20:24,920
Speaker 1: stop throwing that word around again. It feels like it's

1489
01:20:24,920 --> 01:20:28,280
Speaker 1: twenty nine mac Gala all over again. She's not a camp.

1490
01:20:28,880 --> 01:20:31,559
Speaker 1: She's not camp. Let's like, like, I don't know, does

1491
01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:34,600
Speaker 1: poor Susan sant have to like come back from the

1492
01:20:34,680 --> 01:20:37,599
Speaker 1: dead to like happing to you guys what this is.

1493
01:20:37,840 --> 01:20:39,960
Speaker 1: Poor Susan Sons might have to come back from the

1494
01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:43,960
Speaker 1: dead and genuinely school of the Girls because Christine is

1495
01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:46,400
Speaker 1: not a camp. Christine is and it's it's like, I

1496
01:20:46,400 --> 01:20:49,080
Speaker 1: don't know, it's it's not because it's not bad like

1497
01:20:49,240 --> 01:20:53,040
Speaker 1: Christine is. It's just like poor taste, like she's obviously

1498
01:20:53,080 --> 01:20:56,920
Speaker 1: like she has like good taste and things. She looks

1499
01:20:56,920 --> 01:21:01,240
Speaker 1: like a cartoon, like a fantasy of femininity. I'm thinking,

1500
01:21:01,280 --> 01:21:04,000
Speaker 1: really hard is the chair person is the little chair

1501
01:21:04,040 --> 01:21:10,800
Speaker 1: pers campum No? Because like, okay, my cliffs notes distillation

1502
01:21:11,080 --> 01:21:15,519
Speaker 1: of the definition. I'm getting this around. People will take

1503
01:21:15,520 --> 01:21:18,280
Speaker 1: issue with this, I'm sure, but it's like it's it's

1504
01:21:18,320 --> 01:21:21,880
Speaker 1: I'm celebrating bad taste. It's like celebrating bad taste as

1505
01:21:21,920 --> 01:21:25,120
Speaker 1: if it was something in good taste. Essentially, Yeah, like

1506
01:21:25,160 --> 01:21:28,400
Speaker 1: the chairpersonal chairperson, it's not it's it's catch. It's not camp.

1507
01:21:28,439 --> 01:21:31,800
Speaker 1: It's like, oh was in this ironic Like camp is

1508
01:21:31,840 --> 01:21:33,960
Speaker 1: not supposed to know its own irony. That's why like

1509
01:21:34,040 --> 01:21:36,360
Speaker 1: Mommy Dearist is camp because like everyone on that movie

1510
01:21:36,360 --> 01:21:38,639
Speaker 1: thought they were making the best biopic of all time,

1511
01:21:39,560 --> 01:21:42,320
Speaker 1: which is also MyH House of Gucci is not camp exactly,

1512
01:21:42,800 --> 01:21:45,679
Speaker 1: and so that's what it is. Like, it's like it's

1513
01:21:45,720 --> 01:21:49,719
Speaker 1: something that's in bad taste either being perceived as something

1514
01:21:49,760 --> 01:21:52,800
Speaker 1: in good like it's something like that takes itself seriously. Basically.

1515
01:21:53,000 --> 01:21:57,040
Speaker 1: That's another like bastardization of the definition. That's definitely morphed

1516
01:21:57,080 --> 01:21:58,479
Speaker 1: over time. And I think a lot of people have

1517
01:21:58,479 --> 01:22:01,360
Speaker 1: different definitions. But if you're using that definition, then you

1518
01:22:01,400 --> 01:22:03,840
Speaker 1: cannot call Christine and Quinn camp because I feel that

1519
01:22:03,960 --> 01:22:06,880
Speaker 1: she actually is in one control of what she's doing

1520
01:22:07,120 --> 01:22:08,960
Speaker 1: and when she comes in and sits down with Emma

1521
01:22:09,000 --> 01:22:11,320
Speaker 1: and she goes, I just really wanted to talk, and

1522
01:22:11,479 --> 01:22:14,919
Speaker 1: he proposed to me. He did. He proposed to me, actually,

1523
01:22:15,479 --> 01:22:18,840
Speaker 1: And like she's funking with these girls, and like when

1524
01:22:18,880 --> 01:22:21,839
Speaker 1: Mary has a meltdown and Christine's like, why is she upset?

1525
01:22:21,960 --> 01:22:24,639
Speaker 1: Like she knows exactly why she's upset when she comes

1526
01:22:24,680 --> 01:22:27,519
Speaker 1: in with her you know, twenty nine inch hair, Like

1527
01:22:27,840 --> 01:22:31,760
Speaker 1: she is in complete control. And I actually believe that

1528
01:22:31,840 --> 01:22:34,840
Speaker 1: she's a cool person. I'm sure she's like, oh, I

1529
01:22:34,880 --> 01:22:38,040
Speaker 1: think she is like the most aspirational person on the show,

1530
01:22:38,120 --> 01:22:41,400
Speaker 1: despite being like so out of touch and her wealth

1531
01:22:41,520 --> 01:22:44,000
Speaker 1: or whatever. It's like you want to be you want

1532
01:22:44,040 --> 01:22:46,280
Speaker 1: to be like her in a way, right, like you.

1533
01:22:46,400 --> 01:22:48,960
Speaker 1: I don't want to be like Krishell or Mary or

1534
01:22:49,000 --> 01:22:51,120
Speaker 1: anybody else. Yeah, I don't want to certainly want to

1535
01:22:51,160 --> 01:22:53,320
Speaker 1: be spinning my wheels that hard. Also, some of the

1536
01:22:53,360 --> 01:22:55,320
Speaker 1: other girls are falling off from me, like I heard.

1537
01:22:55,360 --> 01:22:57,160
Speaker 1: I know, Heather gets up, gets b v or in

1538
01:22:57,200 --> 01:23:00,840
Speaker 1: the narrative as it goes, but I'm losing Heather a

1539
01:23:00,880 --> 01:23:03,200
Speaker 1: little bit. Heather has a big moment at the end

1540
01:23:03,240 --> 01:23:05,120
Speaker 1: of the season, like the finale is like her and

1541
01:23:05,800 --> 01:23:10,720
Speaker 1: Terek Okay, need that. Um, but and so does she.

1542
01:23:11,200 --> 01:23:13,599
Speaker 1: But um, like I love Heather by the way, Oh,

1543
01:23:13,680 --> 01:23:20,200
Speaker 1: I feel I identified with other playmate legend love she

1544
01:23:20,240 --> 01:23:22,560
Speaker 1: was a playmate. Yeah, were you to say? I was

1545
01:23:22,600 --> 01:23:26,160
Speaker 1: just just gonna say, like, um, you know, Christine Quinn

1546
01:23:26,320 --> 01:23:28,320
Speaker 1: is just completely in control of what she's doing. And

1547
01:23:28,360 --> 01:23:30,840
Speaker 1: I believe that she's cool. And I believe that if

1548
01:23:30,880 --> 01:23:33,479
Speaker 1: these other girls actually don't like her, they're not playing

1549
01:23:33,520 --> 01:23:36,360
Speaker 1: the game as well as her. And here's what I'll say.

1550
01:23:36,560 --> 01:23:41,160
Speaker 1: I'm really excited for Selling Tampa. Oh right, yeah, that'll

1551
01:23:41,200 --> 01:23:43,200
Speaker 1: be fun. Oh I got the cast. The cast looks

1552
01:23:43,439 --> 01:23:46,160
Speaker 1: very cool. I mean it's gonna be very cool. And

1553
01:23:46,200 --> 01:23:48,479
Speaker 1: also like people are like l O L Tampa, but

1554
01:23:48,520 --> 01:23:51,160
Speaker 1: like you have to remember, like I mean that is

1555
01:23:51,200 --> 01:23:54,760
Speaker 1: that is also a competitive real estate market, like like

1556
01:23:55,000 --> 01:23:56,680
Speaker 1: you know, you might turn your nose up because like

1557
01:23:56,720 --> 01:23:58,840
Speaker 1: you think of certain things, but like this actually is

1558
01:23:58,840 --> 01:24:00,920
Speaker 1: gonna be very cool. Basically for everyone that doesn't know,

1559
01:24:01,200 --> 01:24:05,200
Speaker 1: there's a Selling Sunset spinoff called Selling Tampa, which is

1560
01:24:05,320 --> 01:24:09,080
Speaker 1: all black women in Tampa. They they're at the same

1561
01:24:09,760 --> 01:24:13,720
Speaker 1: real estate firm. And I actually watched a um it

1562
01:24:13,760 --> 01:24:17,080
Speaker 1: is is it is it opentime? It's not, but but

1563
01:24:17,120 --> 01:24:19,280
Speaker 1: it's like it's like speaking to and they do the

1564
01:24:19,320 --> 01:24:22,120
Speaker 1: same thing, but it's a a totally different vibe. And

1565
01:24:22,160 --> 01:24:23,840
Speaker 1: I'm really excited for it. I think it comes out

1566
01:24:23,880 --> 01:24:27,320
Speaker 1: in December, mid December. Can't wait, very excited for that.

1567
01:24:27,520 --> 01:24:30,040
Speaker 1: Wait before we before we go to I don't think so, honey,

1568
01:24:30,040 --> 01:24:34,120
Speaker 1: we have to s Oh my god. I mean I

1569
01:24:34,160 --> 01:24:38,800
Speaker 1: told you this was crazy amazing top to bottom, like

1570
01:24:39,080 --> 01:24:43,880
Speaker 1: so well edited. I want to say, like just I mean,

1571
01:24:44,040 --> 01:24:48,000
Speaker 1: the threads all sort of are so tied together in

1572
01:24:48,040 --> 01:24:50,839
Speaker 1: the end in the best way, tied up, tied together whatever,

1573
01:24:50,920 --> 01:24:53,560
Speaker 1: and like I told you over text today, like I

1574
01:24:53,560 --> 01:24:55,200
Speaker 1: think it's like two episode I caught up on the

1575
01:24:55,200 --> 01:24:59,800
Speaker 1: plane home from Thanksgiving, like the last three episodes, I'm like, wow,

1576
01:25:00,120 --> 01:25:01,799
Speaker 1: this is when I realized this is a great season.

1577
01:25:01,840 --> 01:25:03,519
Speaker 1: And don't I don't know my Survivor seasons too well,

1578
01:25:03,520 --> 01:25:05,240
Speaker 1: but I feel like this is one of my more

1579
01:25:05,760 --> 01:25:08,880
Speaker 1: favorite ones. This is an amazing season. And I think

1580
01:25:09,000 --> 01:25:12,120
Speaker 1: that this episode that just happened last week and there's

1581
01:25:12,120 --> 01:25:14,519
Speaker 1: obviously a new one tonight. It was the episode where

1582
01:25:14,560 --> 01:25:20,559
Speaker 1: spoiler alert, spoiler spoiler spoiler fashion, yeah Shan gets eliminated. Yeah,

1583
01:25:20,720 --> 01:25:23,120
Speaker 1: um and she basically was like the main character I believe,

1584
01:25:23,120 --> 01:25:27,680
Speaker 1: along with Ricard two in the season, and really it

1585
01:25:27,760 --> 01:25:31,960
Speaker 1: came down to Ricard deciding to get Shan out even

1586
01:25:31,960 --> 01:25:34,680
Speaker 1: though um they have been each other's number one's like,

1587
01:25:34,760 --> 01:25:38,240
Speaker 1: there's this narrative in the beginning of the episode that actually,

1588
01:25:38,280 --> 01:25:40,160
Speaker 1: it can't really be the two of them at the

1589
01:25:40,200 --> 01:25:43,519
Speaker 1: top two because they're both too good. So there is

1590
01:25:43,520 --> 01:25:48,040
Speaker 1: this interesting chess game being played between them that unfortunately

1591
01:25:48,400 --> 01:25:54,200
Speaker 1: Shan stops playing and Ricard never stops playing. And the

1592
01:25:54,479 --> 01:26:00,120
Speaker 1: moment the whole season changed was Ricard saying, I thing,

1593
01:26:00,200 --> 01:26:02,960
Speaker 1: today is the day that I send like that, we

1594
01:26:03,040 --> 01:26:06,200
Speaker 1: send Shan home, like he decided, like he had to

1595
01:26:06,240 --> 01:26:08,840
Speaker 1: decide that. And I want to give credit to Erica

1596
01:26:08,920 --> 01:26:13,880
Speaker 1: for figuring out the plan. Erica is aleep, but it was,

1597
01:26:13,960 --> 01:26:16,679
Speaker 1: but Erica is the mastermind behind me. It's it's Ricardo,

1598
01:26:16,800 --> 01:26:19,280
Speaker 1: it's Ricard's idea. But Erica is the one who's like,

1599
01:26:19,320 --> 01:26:21,639
Speaker 1: here's how we're gonna do with three three Shand votes,

1600
01:26:21,640 --> 01:26:25,920
Speaker 1: three Leono votes, then it goes to a tiebreaker and uh,

1601
01:26:25,960 --> 01:26:29,320
Speaker 1: if Shann plays her idol, then it's Leona who goes home.

1602
01:26:29,439 --> 01:26:31,479
Speaker 1: If she doesn't, then Shannon goes home like that is

1603
01:26:32,120 --> 01:26:35,519
Speaker 1: like that was all Erica. She's a great player. I

1604
01:26:35,520 --> 01:26:38,040
Speaker 1: think that she we have not given her enough credit.

1605
01:26:38,120 --> 01:26:40,120
Speaker 1: I think she might be going home soon because I

1606
01:26:40,120 --> 01:26:42,120
Speaker 1: think she has a huge target on her back. But

1607
01:26:42,960 --> 01:26:44,200
Speaker 1: people are on her, and then I think they are

1608
01:26:44,280 --> 01:26:47,160
Speaker 1: gonna be onto Ricard. Now this is the thing. There's

1609
01:26:47,240 --> 01:26:49,320
Speaker 1: there's a there's a vacuum of power in a way,

1610
01:26:49,680 --> 01:26:52,800
Speaker 1: like like the tribe is sort of as splintered as

1611
01:26:53,040 --> 01:26:55,759
Speaker 1: as it's ever been now without Shan, without the person

1612
01:26:55,760 --> 01:26:59,640
Speaker 1: who is like arranging the things. Now you have like

1613
01:26:59,680 --> 01:27:02,160
Speaker 1: the any and Deshaun alliance being the only like real

1614
01:27:02,280 --> 01:27:05,280
Speaker 1: like two hander though, what's that's left? Right? And I

1615
01:27:05,920 --> 01:27:10,000
Speaker 1: think that something that is going to hurt them is

1616
01:27:10,040 --> 01:27:13,200
Speaker 1: the fact that Leona is now off board, you know

1617
01:27:13,200 --> 01:27:16,599
Speaker 1: what I mean? Like so I think she she could

1618
01:27:16,680 --> 01:27:19,559
Speaker 1: she she either could make something happen or she'll be next.

1619
01:27:19,640 --> 01:27:21,880
Speaker 1: I don't know. I wonder how much further Heather could go,

1620
01:27:21,920 --> 01:27:24,720
Speaker 1: just because narratively she hasn't been on the show that much.

1621
01:27:24,760 --> 01:27:28,120
Speaker 1: I'm wondering what that means for her. Um. I wonder

1622
01:27:28,160 --> 01:27:30,559
Speaker 1: if she'll figure into the narrative starting now. I just

1623
01:27:30,960 --> 01:27:33,439
Speaker 1: know that's not really how these television seasons are built.

1624
01:27:33,960 --> 01:27:38,439
Speaker 1: I feel it's regards to lose or Zanders to lose,

1625
01:27:38,960 --> 01:27:45,559
Speaker 1: and I find myself rooting for DeShawn because of the way, well,

1626
01:27:45,600 --> 01:27:47,479
Speaker 1: the way the narrative is pulling out. Like I will say,

1627
01:27:47,479 --> 01:27:50,879
Speaker 1: I actually shed tears many different times of this episode.

1628
01:27:51,280 --> 01:27:53,720
Speaker 1: I was crying at the end. I was crying when

1629
01:27:53,720 --> 01:27:56,880
Speaker 1: Deshan got emotional during his confessional about it being such

1630
01:27:56,920 --> 01:27:59,320
Speaker 1: a hard year for black people and that they wanted

1631
01:27:59,360 --> 01:28:01,040
Speaker 1: to do a quote un it for the culture and

1632
01:28:01,080 --> 01:28:02,960
Speaker 1: the four of them it's together to the end. I

1633
01:28:03,040 --> 01:28:05,759
Speaker 1: was trying if the sacrifices were made when they realized

1634
01:28:05,800 --> 01:28:08,520
Speaker 1: that was probably not possible. I was crying when Leanna

1635
01:28:08,720 --> 01:28:12,160
Speaker 1: said that meant more to her than the game because

1636
01:28:12,160 --> 01:28:14,599
Speaker 1: they connected over their hood and their blackness. On the hill,

1637
01:28:14,840 --> 01:28:20,200
Speaker 1: I was like, this is classic Survivor because it's amazing gameplay,

1638
01:28:20,240 --> 01:28:25,000
Speaker 1: but you care about the characters and it's emotional storytelling,

1639
01:28:25,320 --> 01:28:30,000
Speaker 1: but it's also really good gameplay. And I think ultimately

1640
01:28:30,080 --> 01:28:33,240
Speaker 1: what's happening is these it's at the point in the

1641
01:28:33,280 --> 01:28:38,639
Speaker 1: season where the contestants are getting played by their own

1642
01:28:38,640 --> 01:28:42,040
Speaker 1: emotions and a lot the ones that are forgetting to

1643
01:28:42,240 --> 01:28:46,040
Speaker 1: keep playing and the ones that are making emotional concessions

1644
01:28:46,320 --> 01:28:50,080
Speaker 1: are losing. And that I think made an emotional concession.

1645
01:28:50,840 --> 01:28:53,640
Speaker 1: I think that if she were smart, she could have

1646
01:28:53,680 --> 01:28:55,880
Speaker 1: gotten out of that. I mean, anytime you go home

1647
01:28:55,880 --> 01:28:58,200
Speaker 1: with an idol in your pocket, you're not thinking. She

1648
01:28:58,240 --> 01:29:00,920
Speaker 1: said in her like her last confession, when she after

1649
01:29:00,920 --> 01:29:03,439
Speaker 1: she got voted out, she was like, I had an idol. Yep,

1650
01:29:03,720 --> 01:29:06,040
Speaker 1: like she was. You could tell she was the worst

1651
01:29:06,439 --> 01:29:08,519
Speaker 1: crushed by that. Oh my god, because it's so hard

1652
01:29:08,560 --> 01:29:10,000
Speaker 1: to get one, and then you leave with an idol.

1653
01:29:10,120 --> 01:29:12,960
Speaker 1: But the thing too is just like the way it's going.

1654
01:29:13,280 --> 01:29:15,120
Speaker 1: And this is where I get a little will woo again.

1655
01:29:15,280 --> 01:29:18,080
Speaker 1: But this is season forty one, and I do think

1656
01:29:18,280 --> 01:29:22,360
Speaker 1: like that. I think it's a reset. But so season

1657
01:29:22,400 --> 01:29:24,880
Speaker 1: forty was Winners at War. If you call all the

1658
01:29:24,920 --> 01:29:27,320
Speaker 1: way back to season one, we had a queer man

1659
01:29:27,479 --> 01:29:31,760
Speaker 1: named Richard and where when the first and now we

1660
01:29:31,800 --> 01:29:34,800
Speaker 1: are going to have a queer man named Ricard when

1661
01:29:35,080 --> 01:29:40,320
Speaker 1: because Ricard Regard is the quarification of the name Richard,

1662
01:29:40,760 --> 01:29:45,479
Speaker 1: and Richard has an extra letter H and H in

1663
01:29:45,560 --> 01:29:49,479
Speaker 1: lowercase is upside down four and four if you take

1664
01:29:49,520 --> 01:29:54,439
Speaker 1: away four from forty one is one Swift numerology of

1665
01:29:54,439 --> 01:29:57,679
Speaker 1: it all is you're very Taylor Taylor, very tailor sorry

1666
01:29:57,720 --> 01:30:00,040
Speaker 1: Taylor Swift energy. This is very Taylor Swift and I

1667
01:30:00,360 --> 01:30:04,800
Speaker 1: just feel like executive producer this season. She will reveal herself.

1668
01:30:04,840 --> 01:30:06,960
Speaker 1: She will reveal her She will reveal to us that

1669
01:30:07,040 --> 01:30:12,040
Speaker 1: her alias in television is Mark Burnett. That which that which,

1670
01:30:12,120 --> 01:30:14,160
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's the type of thing that makes

1671
01:30:14,200 --> 01:30:17,600
Speaker 1: me say that which. Oh my god, she's such a

1672
01:30:18,120 --> 01:30:19,560
Speaker 1: I had not thought about that, So you said that,

1673
01:30:21,920 --> 01:30:25,000
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Taylors to blame for Trump. Taylor Taylor,

1674
01:30:25,120 --> 01:30:27,840
Speaker 1: Taylor has the piss tapes. She has the piss tapes.

1675
01:30:28,200 --> 01:30:30,320
Speaker 1: I will say, she has the N word tape. That's

1676
01:30:30,320 --> 01:30:33,360
Speaker 1: what she has. She has all. He has all the tapes, Taylor.

1677
01:30:33,840 --> 01:30:35,799
Speaker 1: And if she doesn't have it, her dad has it. Okay,

1678
01:30:36,160 --> 01:30:38,320
Speaker 1: I know her dad. I know Mr Swift has the

1679
01:30:38,360 --> 01:30:50,519
Speaker 1: tapes has Let's god, he's also very good active. I

1680
01:30:50,560 --> 01:30:53,080
Speaker 1: want to sort of I want to touch his body

1681
01:30:53,120 --> 01:30:55,960
Speaker 1: and so it feels like, oh, that's really good. He

1682
01:30:56,040 --> 01:30:57,840
Speaker 1: was able to stand on that narrow beam and hold

1683
01:30:57,880 --> 01:31:03,439
Speaker 1: that ball up in that saucer Challenge Challenge Beautiful Eyes

1684
01:31:03,640 --> 01:31:06,280
Speaker 1: that's another thing I'll miss about Shannons. I loved watching her.

1685
01:31:06,520 --> 01:31:08,639
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. A lot of hot, truly

1686
01:31:08,720 --> 01:31:16,280
Speaker 1: hot people this season. Shanon telegenic, telegenic, Danny Rickard, Xander hotties,

1687
01:31:16,439 --> 01:31:19,680
Speaker 1: hottie season absolutely, I mean everyone's very telegenic in the

1688
01:31:19,720 --> 01:31:22,280
Speaker 1: way where I'm like, pop off. Also, I have to

1689
01:31:22,320 --> 01:31:23,879
Speaker 1: tell you, and I have to tell all the readers.

1690
01:31:23,960 --> 01:31:29,360
Speaker 1: I know, like whatever Australian Survivor season four. People have

1691
01:31:29,439 --> 01:31:30,960
Speaker 1: been in my dams being like, you have to have

1692
01:31:31,000 --> 01:31:34,400
Speaker 1: to have really you have to watch Australian season four.

1693
01:31:34,479 --> 01:31:38,040
Speaker 1: It's a sit, it's cuckoo bananas long, but it is

1694
01:31:38,120 --> 01:31:41,880
Speaker 1: so gratifying. I'm talking, you get in my damns about it, readers.

1695
01:31:41,920 --> 01:31:44,400
Speaker 1: I'm ready to engage about Australia. So, however, season four,

1696
01:31:44,560 --> 01:31:47,760
Speaker 1: not five. Season four, Season four, Um, there's one more

1697
01:31:47,760 --> 01:31:51,800
Speaker 1: thing I wanted to say about Survive before we move on.

1698
01:31:51,840 --> 01:31:54,800
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey, but it is. It's not

1699
01:31:54,840 --> 01:31:59,120
Speaker 1: coming to me. I think, oh okay, because I think

1700
01:31:59,120 --> 01:32:01,400
Speaker 1: we got the preview for the new st episode for

1701
01:32:01,479 --> 01:32:03,799
Speaker 1: the one the week of the twenty nine of November,

1702
01:32:04,280 --> 01:32:06,600
Speaker 1: where there's another twist that gets introduced. But I was like,

1703
01:32:06,640 --> 01:32:08,360
Speaker 1: I think the reason why it's been great the last

1704
01:32:08,360 --> 01:32:11,160
Speaker 1: few episodes because they have they introduced all the twists

1705
01:32:11,200 --> 01:32:13,280
Speaker 1: early on, and then they just let the rest of

1706
01:32:13,320 --> 01:32:15,320
Speaker 1: the season play out the way it is supposed to do.

1707
01:32:15,400 --> 01:32:17,439
Speaker 1: I guess, but I don't need many more twists, but

1708
01:32:17,479 --> 01:32:19,000
Speaker 1: I think I think we are going to get more

1709
01:32:19,000 --> 01:32:22,760
Speaker 1: because Jeff had that advantage like on the bench that

1710
01:32:22,800 --> 01:32:24,759
Speaker 1: no one found, and then like there's gonna be another

1711
01:32:24,800 --> 01:32:27,040
Speaker 1: like thing that he throws in, and I'm kind of

1712
01:32:27,080 --> 01:32:29,800
Speaker 1: nervous about with that. It's gonna be. My thing with

1713
01:32:29,840 --> 01:32:33,040
Speaker 1: the twist is like I always feel like with Survivor,

1714
01:32:33,160 --> 01:32:36,120
Speaker 1: you have to play every twist as if it's terrain.

1715
01:32:36,479 --> 01:32:38,519
Speaker 1: Like I feel like in Survivor, you know there's gonna

1716
01:32:38,520 --> 01:32:40,720
Speaker 1: be twists, and if the show throws into twist like

1717
01:32:41,000 --> 01:32:43,040
Speaker 1: that's just terrain, you have to play like. I don't

1718
01:32:43,040 --> 01:32:45,439
Speaker 1: ever think like, oh, they shouldn't have done that. A

1719
01:32:45,479 --> 01:32:47,639
Speaker 1: couple of times I've liked them less than other times.

1720
01:32:48,680 --> 01:32:53,920
Speaker 1: Every twist, every idol, every advantage, every setback, every tribe switch,

1721
01:32:54,000 --> 01:32:56,320
Speaker 1: like you have to play that like it's terrain. You

1722
01:32:56,360 --> 01:32:58,559
Speaker 1: know you're entering into a game where these types of

1723
01:32:58,600 --> 01:33:02,000
Speaker 1: things happen. So you can't be like, oh, well fuck that,

1724
01:33:02,080 --> 01:33:04,280
Speaker 1: blah blah blah and like kick your kick your toes

1725
01:33:04,320 --> 01:33:06,400
Speaker 1: in the sand. Once they happen, like you have to

1726
01:33:06,439 --> 01:33:09,479
Speaker 1: play them as terrain. And if you are the type

1727
01:33:09,520 --> 01:33:11,360
Speaker 1: of person that's going to win or destined to win,

1728
01:33:11,400 --> 01:33:17,600
Speaker 1: you'll win no matter what the situation is. Go off off.

1729
01:33:17,640 --> 01:33:19,879
Speaker 1: You've been going off all episode. And I have to say,

1730
01:33:20,920 --> 01:33:25,200
Speaker 1: I really really am in awe, mama. This is when

1731
01:33:25,240 --> 01:33:28,000
Speaker 1: we do culture catch up because sometimes we have to

1732
01:33:28,000 --> 01:33:31,880
Speaker 1: get together and get into it. Can I just say

1733
01:33:32,280 --> 01:33:34,920
Speaker 1: you can always say I think the dynamic for almost

1734
01:33:35,000 --> 01:33:37,479
Speaker 1: all the culture catchups. And I don't say this as

1735
01:33:37,520 --> 01:33:41,200
Speaker 1: a way of like putting myself down truly. I think

1736
01:33:41,200 --> 01:33:44,479
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm learning from you. I learned, so I'm

1737
01:33:44,520 --> 01:33:50,120
Speaker 1: in classes in session, I'm learning hold on, And I

1738
01:33:50,120 --> 01:33:53,320
Speaker 1: can I just say I think some people have been

1739
01:33:53,400 --> 01:33:56,160
Speaker 1: like reaching out to be like you sound like you're

1740
01:33:56,200 --> 01:33:58,360
Speaker 1: really putting yourself down and you're not. You're questioning what

1741
01:33:58,400 --> 01:33:59,760
Speaker 1: you say before it comes out of your mouth on

1742
01:33:59,800 --> 01:34:01,840
Speaker 1: the podcasts, and I just want to say, but I'm like, no,

1743
01:34:02,280 --> 01:34:04,519
Speaker 1: this is just like the way my brain works. But

1744
01:34:04,760 --> 01:34:07,880
Speaker 1: you've always been like that what putting myself down? And

1745
01:34:07,960 --> 01:34:10,160
Speaker 1: I'm not putting yourself down. You always check in with

1746
01:34:10,200 --> 01:34:12,320
Speaker 1: yourself before you say things like it's it's a part

1747
01:34:12,320 --> 01:34:16,519
Speaker 1: of your process. It's always you always say something beautiful. No,

1748
01:34:17,640 --> 01:34:20,799
Speaker 1: I believe me, my sense of self my self worth

1749
01:34:20,920 --> 01:34:23,240
Speaker 1: is like at an all time high. That's not what

1750
01:34:23,360 --> 01:34:26,080
Speaker 1: this is. I had some blow moments over the summer,

1751
01:34:26,160 --> 01:34:29,120
Speaker 1: as it is documented on this podcast, But overall, I'm

1752
01:34:29,160 --> 01:34:31,439
Speaker 1: I'm in a great place, a lot of a lot

1753
01:34:31,479 --> 01:34:34,360
Speaker 1: of a lot of good things going on that makes

1754
01:34:34,360 --> 01:34:36,960
Speaker 1: me feel very fulfilled and I'm lucky. And it's not

1755
01:34:37,000 --> 01:34:42,080
Speaker 1: whenever I like I'm kind of fortunatewardly, yeah, whenever, I'm

1756
01:34:42,160 --> 01:34:44,600
Speaker 1: like figuring it out as I don't think I'm that

1757
01:34:45,120 --> 01:34:47,760
Speaker 1: well spoken of a person as people would like to

1758
01:34:47,760 --> 01:34:50,080
Speaker 1: think I am. And so I'm just I'm figuring out

1759
01:34:50,080 --> 01:34:51,920
Speaker 1: what I'm saying as I say it, which I think

1760
01:34:52,120 --> 01:34:55,760
Speaker 1: is okay, everybody calmed down. You have a verbal process,

1761
01:34:56,080 --> 01:35:00,400
Speaker 1: which is you, and I mean I'd rather be sometimes

1762
01:35:00,439 --> 01:35:01,960
Speaker 1: I'd rather be like you than me, who is like,

1763
01:35:02,040 --> 01:35:04,240
Speaker 1: let me come in strong and say this thing, and

1764
01:35:04,280 --> 01:35:07,080
Speaker 1: then I end up saying symposium instead of compendium. You

1765
01:35:07,080 --> 01:35:09,760
Speaker 1: know what, I mean that that I end up calling

1766
01:35:09,800 --> 01:35:12,160
Speaker 1: it a Shipparelli dress and not a Scaparelli dress. You

1767
01:35:12,160 --> 01:35:15,720
Speaker 1: know what I mean. It just happens. It's fine, everybody.

1768
01:35:15,760 --> 01:35:17,519
Speaker 1: This is I think this is coming from the same

1769
01:35:17,560 --> 01:35:20,839
Speaker 1: place as when we tell you we don't know anything.

1770
01:35:21,400 --> 01:35:23,519
Speaker 1: We don't know how to say words, and we don't

1771
01:35:23,520 --> 01:35:25,040
Speaker 1: know my words. I don't know my heart, but do

1772
01:35:25,040 --> 01:35:28,679
Speaker 1: you know my heart? And I can I say I'm

1773
01:35:28,720 --> 01:35:32,280
Speaker 1: moving closer to that truth every day. I don't know

1774
01:35:32,320 --> 01:35:34,840
Speaker 1: my words, but I do know my heart. I don't

1775
01:35:34,880 --> 01:35:39,960
Speaker 1: know to hear you say that roll reversal literally, sister, Like,

1776
01:35:40,360 --> 01:35:46,120
Speaker 1: can I say something period? Period one hundred? I'm sorry

1777
01:35:46,200 --> 01:35:59,439
Speaker 1: period period. Do you believe that it's time or I

1778
01:35:59,479 --> 01:36:01,439
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey. I do believe that it's time

1779
01:36:01,479 --> 01:36:02,960
Speaker 1: for I don't think so. Well. We really got through

1780
01:36:03,000 --> 01:36:05,479
Speaker 1: so much, coach. I know. I think this is one

1781
01:36:05,479 --> 01:36:07,240
Speaker 1: of our best culture catch ups. Can I just say,

1782
01:36:08,320 --> 01:36:10,400
Speaker 1: and here's the deal. People are going to think that

1783
01:36:10,439 --> 01:36:13,440
Speaker 1: I forgot something, but it's part of I don't think so, honey. Okay,

1784
01:36:13,880 --> 01:36:16,160
Speaker 1: I can't think of anything you might have forgotten. Do

1785
01:36:16,200 --> 01:36:18,960
Speaker 1: you have your phone this time? Yes? Okay, because I've

1786
01:36:18,960 --> 01:36:20,960
Speaker 1: been self timing the last couple of weeks and it's

1787
01:36:20,960 --> 01:36:24,200
Speaker 1: felt wrong and I apologize about and it will never

1788
01:36:24,280 --> 01:36:29,639
Speaker 1: happen again. I left my phone. Okay, this are you ready? Okay,

1789
01:36:29,640 --> 01:36:34,400
Speaker 1: I'm happy he pressed against his little bit. It's okay,

1790
01:36:34,640 --> 01:36:37,000
Speaker 1: you didn't do anything. Well, I'm sorry that it literally

1791
01:36:37,040 --> 01:36:41,000
Speaker 1: I did. It's okay, fine, drink some tea after this. Okay,

1792
01:36:41,360 --> 01:36:43,160
Speaker 1: this is Matt Rodgers. I don't think so many time

1793
01:36:43,200 --> 01:36:45,800
Speaker 1: starts now. I don't think so, honey, that the way

1794
01:36:45,880 --> 01:36:48,559
Speaker 1: The Morning Show season two ended is Jennifer Addiston turned

1795
01:36:48,600 --> 01:36:52,439
Speaker 1: into Joe Rogan. Unfortunately, the way that this is the

1796
01:36:52,600 --> 01:36:56,080
Speaker 1: second season of The Morning Show ends as we watched

1797
01:36:56,160 --> 01:37:01,240
Speaker 1: Jennifer Addiston cough, sputter, cry, and sweat for roughly five

1798
01:37:01,320 --> 01:37:05,519
Speaker 1: minutes before she basically gets better by becoming Joe Rogan

1799
01:37:05,560 --> 01:37:09,400
Speaker 1: on a streaming service. This is what happens in the show.

1800
01:37:10,080 --> 01:37:13,479
Speaker 1: I have watched this season all along. And here's the thing.

1801
01:37:13,880 --> 01:37:16,439
Speaker 1: Maybe I do think so, honey, because I don't know

1802
01:37:16,520 --> 01:37:19,599
Speaker 1: what the heightened could have been beyond that to see

1803
01:37:19,920 --> 01:37:22,920
Speaker 1: Jennifer Aniston tell her streaming viewers that despite the fact

1804
01:37:22,960 --> 01:37:25,280
Speaker 1: that she is problematic to the m degree, they can

1805
01:37:25,320 --> 01:37:27,639
Speaker 1: either get on the Alex Leevy train or get the

1806
01:37:27,680 --> 01:37:32,240
Speaker 1: funk off and basically pop off Joe Rogan status. I

1807
01:37:32,280 --> 01:37:34,559
Speaker 1: don't know. I guess I don't think so, honey, the

1808
01:37:34,680 --> 01:37:38,720
Speaker 1: third great Emmy's for all the third greatest. I have

1809
01:37:38,800 --> 01:37:41,960
Speaker 1: to say. They went off The Morning Show season two,

1810
01:37:42,680 --> 01:37:45,080
Speaker 1: and that's one minute chin to say. I think I

1811
01:37:45,160 --> 01:37:48,280
Speaker 1: know the reason why when you texted me that that

1812
01:37:48,360 --> 01:37:51,280
Speaker 1: Jennifer Aniston's character of the Alex Levy becomes Joe Rogan

1813
01:37:51,320 --> 01:37:55,240
Speaker 1: at the end the season to finale, I did not

1814
01:37:55,680 --> 01:37:58,639
Speaker 1: like that. It didn't hit me the same way as

1815
01:37:58,800 --> 01:38:01,479
Speaker 1: when you would describe to me a true third grader plot,

1816
01:38:01,520 --> 01:38:03,840
Speaker 1: because this doesn't feel third grade. You know what it was?

1817
01:38:03,960 --> 01:38:06,200
Speaker 1: The third graders don't know who Joe Rogan is. The

1818
01:38:06,200 --> 01:38:10,800
Speaker 1: third grader here they do. That's how famous Joe Rogan is.

1819
01:38:12,040 --> 01:38:14,400
Speaker 1: Joe Rogan is so huge and podcast and this is

1820
01:38:14,400 --> 01:38:17,920
Speaker 1: where we th grader listens to the Spotify originals. Every

1821
01:38:17,960 --> 01:38:20,599
Speaker 1: third grader has a Spotify account and they can listen

1822
01:38:20,640 --> 01:38:24,640
Speaker 1: to Joe Rogan's podcast on Spotify. Sorry, we were gonna say,

1823
01:38:24,880 --> 01:38:28,559
Speaker 1: you forget about the vast medium that is podcasting. You

1824
01:38:28,720 --> 01:38:31,040
Speaker 1: don't know the power that we hold having this podcast.

1825
01:38:31,280 --> 01:38:37,120
Speaker 1: Joe Rogan has the power of about one million lost culturist. Okay,

1826
01:38:37,320 --> 01:38:41,599
Speaker 1: he last culturist. Joe Rogan harnesses the power of one

1827
01:38:41,680 --> 01:38:46,840
Speaker 1: million lost culturist. I to basically be able to control

1828
01:38:46,880 --> 01:38:50,680
Speaker 1: the minds of even the third graders who turned America's

1829
01:38:50,720 --> 01:38:55,280
Speaker 1: Sweetheart Jennifer Aniston into Joe Rogan because this show is

1830
01:38:55,400 --> 01:39:01,720
Speaker 1: so obsessed with cancel culture, and I have to confirm that.

1831
01:39:01,880 --> 01:39:06,120
Speaker 1: In the post credits, like episode breakdown, Reese weather Spoon

1832
01:39:06,200 --> 01:39:12,320
Speaker 1: says as herself in discussing the season, She goes, and

1833
01:39:12,360 --> 01:39:15,960
Speaker 1: I love Reese, She's my favorite. I think that in

1834
01:39:15,960 --> 01:39:19,800
Speaker 1: a way, all the characters get canceled, canceled by their jobs,

1835
01:39:19,840 --> 01:39:23,799
Speaker 1: canceled by you know, the social media, canceled by life

1836
01:39:24,160 --> 01:39:27,759
Speaker 1: like and I'm just like, oh my god, the show

1837
01:39:27,920 --> 01:39:32,360
Speaker 1: is so third graders with d NC parents. I can't

1838
01:39:32,400 --> 01:39:36,160
Speaker 1: even get over. Also, what else happens, oh, Reese the Spoon,

1839
01:39:36,160 --> 01:39:38,160
Speaker 1: who plays one of the most famous women in America.

1840
01:39:38,200 --> 01:39:41,880
Speaker 1: Bradley Jackson morning show co host walks down the street

1841
01:39:41,920 --> 01:39:44,160
Speaker 1: with flyers in her hand, missing persons for her brother,

1842
01:39:44,200 --> 01:39:46,000
Speaker 1: and it's like, have you seen my brother? Have you

1843
01:39:46,040 --> 01:39:50,839
Speaker 1: seen my brother like he's a dog. So that ultimately

1844
01:39:50,840 --> 01:39:52,640
Speaker 1: Billy Crude up at the end of it says I

1845
01:39:52,720 --> 01:39:57,720
Speaker 1: love you, and remember she lesbian now, but he's like,

1846
01:39:57,800 --> 01:39:59,800
Speaker 1: I love you and this is what people say, right,

1847
01:39:59,840 --> 01:40:01,800
Speaker 1: I love you. And it's like he's a robot saying

1848
01:40:01,840 --> 01:40:03,439
Speaker 1: I love him for the first time. That was the

1849
01:40:03,520 --> 01:40:08,240
Speaker 1: third grade moment. But I've never seen camp like watching

1850
01:40:08,439 --> 01:40:11,000
Speaker 1: and I do use it, and it is this is

1851
01:40:11,000 --> 01:40:13,519
Speaker 1: no morning show, is we can say, according to Matt

1852
01:40:13,600 --> 01:40:16,040
Speaker 1: Rogers and Boon Yang is camp camp. We all know this.

1853
01:40:16,320 --> 01:40:19,960
Speaker 1: She was. She truly almost died of COVID and then

1854
01:40:20,000 --> 01:40:22,120
Speaker 1: Mark Duplas comes over lies to her that he has

1855
01:40:22,120 --> 01:40:24,040
Speaker 1: COVID two you find out he doesn't, So basically he's

1856
01:40:24,040 --> 01:40:26,840
Speaker 1: just exposing himself so he can be with her, and

1857
01:40:26,880 --> 01:40:29,040
Speaker 1: she gets a streaming service ub A Plus. She gets

1858
01:40:29,080 --> 01:40:31,519
Speaker 1: a show on the streaming service, and she pops off

1859
01:40:31,600 --> 01:40:34,920
Speaker 1: and is truly firing off like Joe Rogan being like,

1860
01:40:35,000 --> 01:40:36,560
Speaker 1: they fucking care if you like me at all? I

1861
01:40:36,600 --> 01:40:38,879
Speaker 1: am who I am? You fucking pieces of ship watching

1862
01:40:38,880 --> 01:40:41,400
Speaker 1: this dead on my train or get the funk off?

1863
01:40:41,600 --> 01:40:44,439
Speaker 1: So this is she said sta It was the last

1864
01:40:44,439 --> 01:40:48,160
Speaker 1: words of the episode. Oh my God, like every email

1865
01:40:48,200 --> 01:40:53,439
Speaker 1: from April that's stay safe and stay saying that's so stupid,

1866
01:40:53,760 --> 01:40:56,200
Speaker 1: but this is my thing. None of that sounds like

1867
01:40:56,240 --> 01:40:59,320
Speaker 1: third grader you know who. It sounds like college. No,

1868
01:40:59,720 --> 01:41:03,680
Speaker 1: that teacher, it sounds like the teacher. I think the

1869
01:41:03,720 --> 01:41:06,320
Speaker 1: teacher took a pass at the finale because she was like,

1870
01:41:06,920 --> 01:41:09,200
Speaker 1: you know what, I want to put my own little

1871
01:41:09,880 --> 01:41:13,760
Speaker 1: impromater on this, and she she wrote that ending that's

1872
01:41:13,800 --> 01:41:15,320
Speaker 1: my theory. I know this is your theory, and I

1873
01:41:15,360 --> 01:41:17,360
Speaker 1: don't want to mess with your theory because it's the funniest.

1874
01:41:17,400 --> 01:41:20,360
Speaker 1: It's truly one of the funniest bits of comedy from

1875
01:41:21,160 --> 01:41:24,160
Speaker 1: I can say that as as someone who's receiving this

1876
01:41:24,200 --> 01:41:27,479
Speaker 1: comedy from you, like this whole bit, the whole thing

1877
01:41:27,560 --> 01:41:29,559
Speaker 1: show was written by a class room of third graders

1878
01:41:30,680 --> 01:41:33,960
Speaker 1: is your theory. I just think my contribution is that

1879
01:41:34,040 --> 01:41:36,320
Speaker 1: for the finale, because it does stand out a little

1880
01:41:36,360 --> 01:41:39,160
Speaker 1: bit to me. I thought about that. It breaks the

1881
01:41:39,200 --> 01:41:41,920
Speaker 1: pattern a little bit of the morning show, you know what.

1882
01:41:41,960 --> 01:41:45,479
Speaker 1: It was, so another part of the the sort of

1883
01:41:46,640 --> 01:41:49,040
Speaker 1: like I guess we're gonna call it like the the

1884
01:41:49,080 --> 01:41:52,000
Speaker 1: Greater World of the third grades. Just remember I said

1885
01:41:52,000 --> 01:41:54,720
Speaker 1: the teachers believe in the room to go get drunk, right,

1886
01:41:54,760 --> 01:41:57,519
Speaker 1: And so she came back at the end of the

1887
01:41:57,560 --> 01:42:01,240
Speaker 1: week and said she's been through a ender, and she said,

1888
01:42:01,439 --> 01:42:04,599
Speaker 1: let me at this fucking show. Alright there, so this show,

1889
01:42:04,640 --> 01:42:13,400
Speaker 1: hold on a second, there's my fucking okay, yeah, fuck you.

1890
01:42:12,600 --> 01:42:18,519
Speaker 1: She's sweating dead, stay safe and us I forgot about

1891
01:42:18,520 --> 01:42:20,599
Speaker 1: the storyline. And he says, I love you to her. Yeah,

1892
01:42:20,600 --> 01:42:24,880
Speaker 1: that right back to her. If you like me, fuck

1893
01:42:25,000 --> 01:42:31,720
Speaker 1: you fuck off. Telling the streaming service Okay, he's got

1894
01:42:31,720 --> 01:42:42,759
Speaker 1: going to great. Okay, send She had send a direct

1895
01:42:42,840 --> 01:42:46,000
Speaker 1: line Tim Cook and then Tim tells everybody over an

1896
01:42:46,000 --> 01:42:51,000
Speaker 1: Apple TV. Anyways, that's the story of That's the glory

1897
01:42:51,120 --> 01:42:56,520
Speaker 1: of Morning Show Season two. Truly a standing ovation. Okay,

1898
01:42:56,560 --> 01:42:58,240
Speaker 1: are you ready for your I don't think so, honey.

1899
01:42:58,360 --> 01:43:01,520
Speaker 1: I have one. It's a little it's a little self indulgent,

1900
01:43:02,640 --> 01:43:05,599
Speaker 1: not that most of mine aren't, but this is something

1901
01:43:05,640 --> 01:43:07,640
Speaker 1: that's specific to me. But it has to do with

1902
01:43:07,680 --> 01:43:09,880
Speaker 1: the culture. And I think I have to say this.

1903
01:43:10,640 --> 01:43:15,360
Speaker 1: We're gonna we're gonna get into it, and a decidedly

1904
01:43:15,640 --> 01:43:18,680
Speaker 1: bow and Yang. I don't think so, honey, this is

1905
01:43:18,720 --> 01:43:20,759
Speaker 1: Bowen yangs I don't think so, honey, and his time

1906
01:43:20,880 --> 01:43:23,920
Speaker 1: starts now. I don't think so, honey, Me being fan

1907
01:43:24,000 --> 01:43:26,840
Speaker 1: cast as Box in the Wicked movie, because this is

1908
01:43:26,880 --> 01:43:30,000
Speaker 1: something that you know will never happen, and I didn't

1909
01:43:30,080 --> 01:43:32,680
Speaker 1: think about before. But now that you're all telling me

1910
01:43:32,720 --> 01:43:35,080
Speaker 1: that I should play Box, I'm like, I guess I

1911
01:43:35,120 --> 01:43:37,719
Speaker 1: want to play back. But guess what, may I remind

1912
01:43:37,760 --> 01:43:40,160
Speaker 1: you it will never happen, and so you're setting me

1913
01:43:40,280 --> 01:43:43,559
Speaker 1: up for emotional despair that I can't be a part

1914
01:43:43,600 --> 01:43:49,520
Speaker 1: of this wonderful project starting to actors who I adore,

1915
01:43:49,560 --> 01:43:53,400
Speaker 1: directed by a director who ire. I can't be involved

1916
01:43:53,479 --> 01:43:56,240
Speaker 1: in this magical? Do you know how iconic it would

1917
01:43:56,280 --> 01:43:58,200
Speaker 1: be if I got to play the tin man? Bitch?

1918
01:43:58,479 --> 01:44:01,759
Speaker 1: You don't, because I'm just a little piece of chattel

1919
01:44:01,840 --> 01:44:04,720
Speaker 1: to you, and you can list me next to fucking

1920
01:44:04,800 --> 01:44:08,120
Speaker 1: oh Audrey McDonald is not a morrible don't do that

1921
01:44:08,160 --> 01:44:09,920
Speaker 1: to me. I'm too fragile for that. I am not

1922
01:44:09,960 --> 01:44:11,720
Speaker 1: in a place in my career where you can do

1923
01:44:11,760 --> 01:44:14,360
Speaker 1: that yet, because I still think of these movies like

1924
01:44:14,400 --> 01:44:17,160
Speaker 1: you do, I'm fan casting along with you. For me

1925
01:44:17,240 --> 01:44:20,320
Speaker 1: to be fan cast it feels wrong and cruel, and

1926
01:44:20,360 --> 01:44:24,400
Speaker 1: you must stop please, And that's one minute. So here's

1927
01:44:24,439 --> 01:44:28,120
Speaker 1: the deal. I think that if you wanted the audition,

1928
01:44:28,400 --> 01:44:31,720
Speaker 1: all you'd have to do was text. I think you

1929
01:44:31,760 --> 01:44:33,760
Speaker 1: think you should just contact him. But here's the thing.

1930
01:44:34,040 --> 01:44:37,360
Speaker 1: Then you'd have to be that person who likes did that.

1931
01:44:37,880 --> 01:44:39,880
Speaker 1: Then I gotta be like, I gotta go on the

1932
01:44:39,920 --> 01:44:42,439
Speaker 1: fucking talk shows and me like, yeah, I texted him.

1933
01:44:42,479 --> 01:44:44,439
Speaker 1: You know, like, no, I have no No, you can't

1934
01:44:44,439 --> 01:44:46,479
Speaker 1: be thirsty. You can't be like debor messing with Lucy.

1935
01:44:46,600 --> 01:44:47,720
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. You don't want to end

1936
01:44:47,800 --> 01:44:55,000
Speaker 1: up a fate worse than death in the Lucy narrative. Yeah. See, like,

1937
01:44:55,200 --> 01:44:58,240
Speaker 1: I think you'd be fabulous. But I also think they

1938
01:44:58,320 --> 01:45:00,960
Speaker 1: might be trying to cast a little person. I think

1939
01:45:01,000 --> 01:45:03,760
Speaker 1: they should cast all the munchkins as little people. I

1940
01:45:03,800 --> 01:45:08,600
Speaker 1: think that Also, here's another thing. What are y'all? What

1941
01:45:08,640 --> 01:45:11,880
Speaker 1: are y'all trying to say that I can't fuck because

1942
01:45:12,120 --> 01:45:18,320
Speaker 1: guess what bag and ninessa rose I want without I

1943
01:45:18,320 --> 01:45:22,200
Speaker 1: can actually bag the Glinda's. I don't need to funcknessa

1944
01:45:22,280 --> 01:45:25,599
Speaker 1: because I can go into a bar and walk up

1945
01:45:25,600 --> 01:45:28,280
Speaker 1: to the Glinda of the room and say, hey, you

1946
01:45:28,439 --> 01:45:32,280
Speaker 1: me my place. Let's go I have only home essentials

1947
01:45:32,280 --> 01:45:34,680
Speaker 1: in my room. You want to know, you want to

1948
01:45:34,720 --> 01:45:37,720
Speaker 1: know why Pete and Arianna broke up Bowen alright on

1949
01:45:37,800 --> 01:45:42,320
Speaker 1: a grand day. Spread it, spread it around. What broke

1950
01:45:42,360 --> 01:45:47,439
Speaker 1: them up? Bowen? It was Bowen. She said, no, I

1951
01:45:47,520 --> 01:45:52,000
Speaker 1: want that faggot. Arianna said, I want that baggett. I

1952
01:45:52,000 --> 01:45:54,920
Speaker 1: wanna I wanna let that faggot. I want to hear

1953
01:45:54,920 --> 01:45:57,960
Speaker 1: that faggot makes noise and she can say fag fag

1954
01:45:58,080 --> 01:46:07,080
Speaker 1: is it's it's it's actually a real culture. Number one hundred,

1955
01:46:07,240 --> 01:46:14,080
Speaker 1: Ariana ken and Has. I support your casting. But here's

1956
01:46:14,120 --> 01:46:17,439
Speaker 1: the thing. If you were in the Wicked movie, then

1957
01:46:17,520 --> 01:46:20,320
Speaker 1: you have to be in it, and like you really

1958
01:46:20,360 --> 01:46:23,719
Speaker 1: can't enjoy I know, Yeah, you're right, there's something too,

1959
01:46:23,880 --> 01:46:26,400
Speaker 1: there's something to just being able to like, okay, get this.

1960
01:46:27,800 --> 01:46:30,880
Speaker 1: So I'm seeing Fire Island tomorrow, I know, Oh my god.

1961
01:46:31,040 --> 01:46:33,920
Speaker 1: And so I don't know if this is saying too much,

1962
01:46:33,960 --> 01:46:36,920
Speaker 1: but like very very very small handful of people have

1963
01:46:37,000 --> 01:46:40,880
Speaker 1: seen the movie directors director's cut and apparently it's like

1964
01:46:41,320 --> 01:46:44,360
Speaker 1: really good, and so Joe Joel says, do you want

1965
01:46:44,360 --> 01:46:47,519
Speaker 1: to come see it? And I'm like panicking. I can't

1966
01:46:47,520 --> 01:46:50,080
Speaker 1: believe I'm about to go watch a movie with us

1967
01:46:50,120 --> 01:46:52,160
Speaker 1: in it, Like I'm like, oh my god, oh it'll

1968
01:46:52,200 --> 01:46:54,280
Speaker 1: feel crazy. I'm sure, are you worried that you're not

1969
01:46:54,280 --> 01:46:57,200
Speaker 1: going to be able to like line up your consumption

1970
01:46:57,240 --> 01:46:59,280
Speaker 1: of the movie along with everyone else? Well, I asked

1971
01:46:59,320 --> 01:47:01,680
Speaker 1: Joel about that. I'm like, how long did it take

1972
01:47:01,680 --> 01:47:03,760
Speaker 1: you to settle into watching it? And he was like,

1973
01:47:03,880 --> 01:47:07,600
Speaker 1: pretty much minutes into the movie. I settled into it,

1974
01:47:07,680 --> 01:47:10,080
Speaker 1: like he's well, he said, he said a specific part,

1975
01:47:10,120 --> 01:47:13,400
Speaker 1: but I was like, okay, maybe like as it goes

1976
01:47:13,560 --> 01:47:16,040
Speaker 1: like I'll get into it. But I have a feeling

1977
01:47:16,080 --> 01:47:17,680
Speaker 1: like my experience is gonna I'm gonna watch it the

1978
01:47:17,680 --> 01:47:20,120
Speaker 1: whole first time through and like have my shoulders up here,

1979
01:47:20,479 --> 01:47:22,920
Speaker 1: and then I'll be able to watch it again and

1980
01:47:23,040 --> 01:47:25,120
Speaker 1: again after that because I'll finally be able to like

1981
01:47:25,360 --> 01:47:29,400
Speaker 1: stop seeing myself in it and also stop seeing like

1982
01:47:29,800 --> 01:47:32,080
Speaker 1: everything we know. I just want to try to go

1983
01:47:32,120 --> 01:47:34,360
Speaker 1: in as best as I can and just watch it

1984
01:47:34,400 --> 01:47:36,280
Speaker 1: as a movie and enjoy it, because I know I

1985
01:47:36,320 --> 01:47:38,880
Speaker 1: would and will. But that's the thing about being in

1986
01:47:38,920 --> 01:47:40,560
Speaker 1: this type of stuff, was like I would love to

1987
01:47:40,600 --> 01:47:42,360
Speaker 1: be able to enjoy it that I can't get out

1988
01:47:42,400 --> 01:47:44,880
Speaker 1: of my mind, like that's me up there, like, but

1989
01:47:44,920 --> 01:47:47,960
Speaker 1: you know, you and Joel are very similar in this

1990
01:47:48,000 --> 01:47:50,960
Speaker 1: way where I think he might have gone into his

1991
01:47:51,040 --> 01:47:54,320
Speaker 1: viewing of it with the same feeling and then he

1992
01:47:54,400 --> 01:47:58,040
Speaker 1: ended up being I think, very enthusiastic about it. He was,

1993
01:47:58,479 --> 01:48:01,400
Speaker 1: which is a great signs. No, of course it's the

1994
01:48:01,400 --> 01:48:06,120
Speaker 1: best time because Joel like has very good standards and taste. Anyway,

1995
01:48:06,560 --> 01:48:09,519
Speaker 1: I was texting with Andrew on the director. We love

1996
01:48:09,600 --> 01:48:12,960
Speaker 1: him so much he I was. We were just texting

1997
01:48:12,960 --> 01:48:15,000
Speaker 1: each other catching up. I was like, oh my god, congrats,

1998
01:48:15,040 --> 01:48:16,840
Speaker 1: like it's so it's this is so cool, like I

1999
01:48:16,880 --> 01:48:20,560
Speaker 1: heard the screening went great, and then he was like, okay,

2000
01:48:20,640 --> 01:48:22,880
Speaker 1: and we'll do in New York screening soon and it'll

2001
01:48:22,880 --> 01:48:26,719
Speaker 1: be wonderful. And then over Thanksgiving I texted him like, okay,

2002
01:48:26,720 --> 01:48:28,200
Speaker 1: but when do you think of New York screening will

2003
01:48:28,200 --> 01:48:31,760
Speaker 1: happen now? And then he was like, well, do you

2004
01:48:31,880 --> 01:48:33,840
Speaker 1: want to watch it? He was like, do you want

2005
01:48:33,840 --> 01:48:36,320
Speaker 1: to watch it at the premiere or do you want

2006
01:48:36,320 --> 01:48:38,840
Speaker 1: to watch it with like a small cast and crew

2007
01:48:38,840 --> 01:48:40,960
Speaker 1: group in New York like when we do it at

2008
01:48:41,040 --> 01:48:43,760
Speaker 1: some time. See, that's another thing I'm thinking about is

2009
01:48:43,800 --> 01:48:45,960
Speaker 1: maybe I shouldn't watch him tomorrow. No, I think you

2010
01:48:46,000 --> 01:48:48,479
Speaker 1: should because here's my thing, I told Andrew is like

2011
01:48:49,040 --> 01:48:51,800
Speaker 1: the idea of watching myself for the first time in

2012
01:48:51,840 --> 01:48:56,000
Speaker 1: this with a bunch of other strangers terrifies me because

2013
01:48:57,240 --> 01:49:00,600
Speaker 1: I need to have a sense of like what I think,

2014
01:49:01,439 --> 01:49:03,760
Speaker 1: how I think I did in the movie that is

2015
01:49:03,800 --> 01:49:06,800
Speaker 1: not that informed by what other people think just yet.

2016
01:49:07,080 --> 01:49:10,320
Speaker 1: Yeah okay, Well also then again, Bone, it's not really

2017
01:49:10,439 --> 01:49:13,200
Speaker 1: for I know, I know, I know, but just for

2018
01:49:13,320 --> 01:49:15,640
Speaker 1: my own like vanity, like that's my thing. And then

2019
01:49:15,680 --> 01:49:17,519
Speaker 1: Andrew was like, what do you mean, Like that's your

2020
01:49:17,720 --> 01:49:23,559
Speaker 1: like your job every week is too Like yes, I

2021
01:49:23,600 --> 01:49:25,719
Speaker 1: told him. I was like, no, it's completely different because

2022
01:49:25,960 --> 01:49:31,320
Speaker 1: I have the luxury of getting immediate feedback on how

2023
01:49:31,360 --> 01:49:36,040
Speaker 1: I'm doing in a performance in front of strangers and

2024
01:49:36,080 --> 01:49:37,519
Speaker 1: knowing whether or not I had a good I did

2025
01:49:37,520 --> 01:49:40,559
Speaker 1: a good job. This is something totally foreign to me,

2026
01:49:40,600 --> 01:49:43,760
Speaker 1: where it's something I did like in the summer, and

2027
01:49:44,160 --> 01:49:48,680
Speaker 1: it won't be like received by many people until like

2028
01:49:48,720 --> 01:49:51,760
Speaker 1: a year a year later, Like that is so conceptually

2029
01:49:52,280 --> 01:49:54,800
Speaker 1: crazy to me. Well, I mean, I think Joel is

2030
01:49:54,800 --> 01:49:56,479
Speaker 1: excited about me watching it, So I'm going to go

2031
01:49:56,520 --> 01:49:59,040
Speaker 1: over and see it. So um. And you know, I

2032
01:49:59,320 --> 01:50:02,440
Speaker 1: did ask him any specific questions about certain things and

2033
01:50:02,479 --> 01:50:05,840
Speaker 1: he's been very reassuring. So um, I love that. Anyways,

2034
01:50:05,960 --> 01:50:08,680
Speaker 1: but I'm really excited. I can't believe It's like I'm

2035
01:50:08,720 --> 01:50:12,040
Speaker 1: gonna be a thing. Like I'm excited. I'm so proud

2036
01:50:12,080 --> 01:50:15,280
Speaker 1: of Joel and Andrew, Like just what a what a

2037
01:50:15,400 --> 01:50:19,000
Speaker 1: huge deal. Anyway, much more to come on that one.

2038
01:50:19,840 --> 01:50:23,240
Speaker 1: And this was truly a culture catch up. I mean

2039
01:50:23,320 --> 01:50:27,160
Speaker 1: maybe our best one, our most expensive one. We covered

2040
01:50:27,200 --> 01:50:30,280
Speaker 1: a lot. We got into it. Whenever we at the

2041
01:50:30,360 --> 01:50:32,320
Speaker 1: end of an episode say this is our best one,

2042
01:50:33,760 --> 01:50:38,160
Speaker 1: that's when I say hundred period period. Maybe it's hundred periods,

2043
01:50:38,280 --> 01:50:41,320
Speaker 1: hundred period the title I think we only said what

2044
01:50:42,120 --> 01:50:45,080
Speaker 1: I forgot it spec, so we said, Lady Gaga, is

2045
01:50:45,120 --> 01:50:50,640
Speaker 1: spec specnomenalenal. Now I think it's hundred period, hundred period

2046
01:50:50,360 --> 01:50:56,200
Speaker 1: period period, so he numeral one zero zero period. You

2047
01:50:56,240 --> 01:50:59,040
Speaker 1: want to do numerals, can you tell me right here

2048
01:50:59,240 --> 01:51:01,240
Speaker 1: what you wanted, how you wanted to show up. I

2049
01:51:01,240 --> 01:51:05,280
Speaker 1: think it should be the word hundred period period as

2050
01:51:05,320 --> 01:51:10,240
Speaker 1: in the punctuation mark spain and then period period period, period,

2051
01:51:10,520 --> 01:51:14,280
Speaker 1: unless you want to do hundred period as in the

2052
01:51:14,400 --> 01:51:21,479
Speaker 1: punctuation period exclamation point, yeah, hundred period periods it with

2053
01:51:21,520 --> 01:51:23,400
Speaker 1: Matt and Bowen of course to note that it's a

2054
01:51:23,439 --> 01:51:29,840
Speaker 1: culture catch up and I just the dolls well phenomenal, phenomenal, specnomenal,

2055
01:51:30,120 --> 01:51:33,800
Speaker 1: specomenalo s pecnomenal, did not did not end up winning

2056
01:51:33,800 --> 01:51:38,280
Speaker 1: title of app status, but the so highlights Lady Gaga

2057
01:51:38,360 --> 01:51:40,160
Speaker 1: is spectomenal and house of Gucci. But we don't like

2058
01:51:40,200 --> 01:51:43,360
Speaker 1: the movie. Cultural Awards are canceled and we wish Wendy

2059
01:51:43,400 --> 01:51:49,400
Speaker 1: Williams the best. I'm really sad that the awards are

2060
01:51:49,479 --> 01:51:52,160
Speaker 1: are canceled, but we had to do. It would have

2061
01:51:52,200 --> 01:51:54,280
Speaker 1: been import taste to have kept them going given the

2062
01:51:54,280 --> 01:51:57,360
Speaker 1: state of Wendy Williams. Right, the last cultures Cultural Awards,

2063
01:51:57,400 --> 01:52:01,639
Speaker 1: as an idea were was a beautiful moment in time

2064
01:52:01,680 --> 01:52:05,160
Speaker 1: that was a byproduct of our insanity during the filming

2065
01:52:05,200 --> 01:52:07,920
Speaker 1: of the movie Fire Island, and it will stand the

2066
01:52:07,960 --> 01:52:12,880
Speaker 1: test of time. But if you read the hundred period

2067
01:52:13,400 --> 01:52:18,439
Speaker 1: to award the nominees now only months later makes no sense.

2068
01:52:18,520 --> 01:52:21,599
Speaker 1: To it no longer makes sense, and we wish might

2069
01:52:21,680 --> 01:52:29,479
Speaker 1: be the best Hi you shot at Ull