WEBVTT - Russian Brides 0:00:00.560 --> 0:00:04.359 Of the law and order franchises. SVU is considered especially watchable. 0:00:04.600 --> 0:00:07.160 We are the amateur detectives who kind of investigate the 0:00:07.240 --> 0:00:08.039 vicious felonies. 0:00:08.080 --> 0:00:10.640 These episodes are based on. These are our stories. 0:00:11.000 --> 0:00:11.600 Dune Done. 0:00:28.360 --> 0:00:33.120 Hello, everybody, Welcome to That's Messed Up, an SVU podcast. 0:00:33.800 --> 0:00:36.800 I'm one of your hosts, Kara Klink and name Lisa Tragger. 0:00:36.960 --> 0:00:40.400 We talk SVU true crime and one day we will 0:00:40.440 --> 0:00:43.120 have guests again one day post. 0:00:42.960 --> 0:00:46.080 One day right today, year twenty four. 0:00:46.320 --> 0:00:49.240 Yeah, yeah, we're cooking up baby interviews. We got some 0:00:49.360 --> 0:00:52.159 good people coming up in twenty twenty four. This is 0:00:52.240 --> 0:00:59.120 our last episode before Christmas. Jingle Bells. You're gonna be 0:01:00.120 --> 0:01:01.720 already be away when this comes out. 0:01:01.880 --> 0:01:03.240 No, not yet, not yet. 0:01:03.400 --> 0:01:05.759 No. We have just gotten back from our New York 0:01:05.840 --> 0:01:09.960 Philly dates and I will be going to Mexico City 0:01:10.120 --> 0:01:10.959 in four days. 0:01:11.360 --> 0:01:13.720 So but you know, I mean, we're recording this in 0:01:13.760 --> 0:01:14.839 the time machine way before. 0:01:14.920 --> 0:01:18.120 But I'm already you know, I'm buying skirts, I'm i'm, I'm, 0:01:18.560 --> 0:01:20.800 I got new sneakers. I'm wearing them in so they're 0:01:20.880 --> 0:01:23.959 ready for They're ready for Mexico. You know, so much 0:01:24.040 --> 0:01:26.800 planning the nail appointment has been made on the twenty second. 0:01:27.480 --> 0:01:30.280 I'm doing a lot doing all, right, I know, I 0:01:30.400 --> 0:01:32.160 buy my tickets, doing the plans. 0:01:32.360 --> 0:01:35.480 Yeah, I'm holding out my nails until like right before 0:01:35.840 --> 0:01:38.200 because I want them to like last over the holidays, 0:01:38.280 --> 0:01:39.640 like when I'm gone for a long time. 0:01:40.360 --> 0:01:40.600 I know. 0:01:40.880 --> 0:01:41.880 Same with the roots. 0:01:42.000 --> 0:01:44.040 You know, it's like I'm trying to get my grays, 0:01:44.160 --> 0:01:46.120 but if I wait this long, then I'll they'll pop 0:01:46.200 --> 0:01:48.440 out and this time, so yeah, to wait, So I'm 0:01:48.520 --> 0:01:50.160 gray for a week longer than. 0:01:50.160 --> 0:01:53.040 I like to have not done because I'm going to 0:01:53.080 --> 0:01:54.440 the same girl we both go to to get my 0:01:54.520 --> 0:01:57.800 hair recolored fully, but I don't like to like I 0:01:57.880 --> 0:01:59.280 don't really pay her to do my roots. 0:01:59.320 --> 0:02:00.320 I just do it myself. 0:02:00.600 --> 0:02:02.760 And so I'm waiting until like the day before the 0:02:02.800 --> 0:02:04.960 appointment so that it can like all be beautiful together. 0:02:05.200 --> 0:02:06.960 That's so wild that you won't let her just do 0:02:07.080 --> 0:02:09.359 it all because she did it last time. It's so 0:02:09.520 --> 0:02:11.440 much more money and it's so much more time. It's 0:02:11.480 --> 0:02:14.960 like a double process for me. Oh okay, you know, okay, 0:02:15.000 --> 0:02:16.880 and I just like do it myself and then she 0:02:17.080 --> 0:02:19.160 just does the rest, you know, because it's like because 0:02:19.160 --> 0:02:24.200 I do bolliage. So I will be when this episode 0:02:24.280 --> 0:02:27.440 comes out, frantically packing to take my two children by 0:02:27.480 --> 0:02:29.400 myself across the country on a plane. 0:02:29.600 --> 0:02:33.239 And should I buy adults a lounge pass before that? 0:02:33.720 --> 0:02:36.240 Will it help me? I don't know. I get there 0:02:36.320 --> 0:02:37.960 so early and then I just let them like run 0:02:38.040 --> 0:02:41.400 around and they go insane and people usually laugh, but 0:02:41.440 --> 0:02:43.239 I don't know, we'll see. It might be bothering people 0:02:43.280 --> 0:02:45.800 at the Christmas time, but. 0:02:46.200 --> 0:02:48.959 That's what if you're traveling around the holidays, you know, 0:02:49.080 --> 0:02:51.160 that's what's happening. You know, like the y at, the 0:02:51.240 --> 0:02:54.200 babies are there, the families are going, that's like, this 0:02:54.440 --> 0:02:55.480 is this is the time. 0:02:55.600 --> 0:02:59.880 Yeah, the kids are pumped, they're full of sugar. It's happening. Yeah. Wait. 0:03:00.240 --> 0:03:05.040 I spent the morning on Ticketmaster trying to buy tickets 0:03:05.320 --> 0:03:08.560 to take my son Oscar to see Rafi because he's 0:03:08.600 --> 0:03:10.560 going to be in la in February. And guess what, 0:03:10.720 --> 0:03:15.120 that motherfucker sold out the Orpheum downtown and he didn't 0:03:15.120 --> 0:03:16.000 really sell it out totally. 0:03:16.080 --> 0:03:17.239 There's like six. 0:03:17.280 --> 0:03:20.720 Single tickets left, which is like who's buying those singles? 0:03:20.919 --> 0:03:23.000 Who's buying a single to go to Rafi? That's an 0:03:23.080 --> 0:03:25.959 SVU episode, you know, like you can't like send a 0:03:26.080 --> 0:03:27.400 kid by themself, so. 0:03:27.600 --> 0:03:30.119 They're just like time to email for some favors. 0:03:30.280 --> 0:03:30.840 I don't know. 0:03:31.040 --> 0:03:33.120 I better agents have never been asked for a RAFFI. 0:03:33.400 --> 0:03:35.400 I literally was like, is this the ask for the 0:03:35.480 --> 0:03:37.120 agents or do I wait until I really want to 0:03:37.160 --> 0:03:39.800 see Adele? Like do I have Like I can't believe 0:03:39.880 --> 0:03:41.680 I would have. I would like blow it on RAFFI. 0:03:42.080 --> 0:03:44.400 It's on resale sites, like there's stuff on stub Hub, 0:03:44.440 --> 0:03:47.480 but it's like for they're on Ticketmaster for forty nine 0:03:47.520 --> 0:03:49.400 and they're on stub Hub for like ninety five, and. 0:03:49.440 --> 0:03:51.200 It's like, I didn't know you guys were such a 0:03:51.360 --> 0:03:52.200 Raffi family. 0:03:52.440 --> 0:03:55.560 Oscar just started kind of being into like Baby Beluga 0:03:55.640 --> 0:03:57.400 and like down by the Bay and stuff, and I. 0:03:57.480 --> 0:03:59.160 Was like, you know, he's kind of an icon. 0:03:59.760 --> 0:04:02.240 And I feel like, like I was thinking it would 0:04:02.240 --> 0:04:04.400 be something fun for me and Oscar to do because 0:04:05.080 --> 0:04:07.600 I do so much solo shit with Rosie, Like I 0:04:07.640 --> 0:04:09.600 would like to start doing a little bit more now 0:04:09.640 --> 0:04:12.360 that Oscar's coming more into his consciousness, like doing more 0:04:12.840 --> 0:04:14.320 things with him, and so I thought it would be 0:04:14.360 --> 0:04:17.720 a fun thing for us to do and damn. I 0:04:17.839 --> 0:04:19.520 texted a bunch of friends. I go, I'm getting tickets 0:04:19.560 --> 0:04:21.120 for Rappie who wants to come? And then I go 0:04:21.360 --> 0:04:27.520 cancel that he sold out? Like it's crazy. Yeah that's impressive. 0:04:27.800 --> 0:04:29.520 Yeah it's at two o'clock in the afternoon on a 0:04:29.560 --> 0:04:31.880 Saturday in February. But I'm going to try to I'm 0:04:31.920 --> 0:04:34.159 going to try to work some work, some connects, see 0:04:34.200 --> 0:04:36.440 what I can do. So did you find out about 0:04:36.440 --> 0:04:39.360 it late or did he sell out that fast? I 0:04:39.480 --> 0:04:41.440 think I found out about it late. I think I 0:04:41.480 --> 0:04:43.040 don't know. I don't know when it was announced. To 0:04:43.080 --> 0:04:46.000 be honest, I like saw something generally past like I'm 0:04:46.000 --> 0:04:47.960 passing about it maybe on my Facebook and was like, 0:04:48.920 --> 0:04:50.520 what is this? And then my friend I was on 0:04:50.600 --> 0:04:53.080 another podcast. I was on Hysteria, and Aaron Ryan, who's 0:04:53.080 --> 0:04:56.600 the host of that podcast, was like saying, how Rafi's 0:04:56.640 --> 0:04:59.119 so cool? This is actually we were having conversation because 0:04:59.480 --> 0:05:01.640 you know what the end of that podcast, you you do, 0:05:01.800 --> 0:05:04.040 Sanny Petty, something that's keeping you sane or something that 0:05:04.160 --> 0:05:06.400 you feel petty about. And for Petty, I was like, 0:05:07.040 --> 0:05:11.720 I'm so spoiled by Netflix and Hulu without ads and 0:05:11.760 --> 0:05:14.360 all this stuff that I don't pay for paramount without ads, 0:05:14.400 --> 0:05:16.360 and my kids watch a lot of Nickelodeon shit on there, 0:05:16.640 --> 0:05:18.840 and there's so many fucking ads, and it's like so 0:05:19.000 --> 0:05:21.320 insidious because they're two and four and everything they see, 0:05:21.400 --> 0:05:22.480 they're like, can we get that? 0:05:22.720 --> 0:05:23.280 Can I have that? 0:05:23.400 --> 0:05:26.440 And I'm like, god, like, how did our parents even live? 0:05:26.560 --> 0:05:30.120 We were just watching commercials constantly asking for everything. I'm sure. 0:05:30.680 --> 0:05:35.840 So I was annoyed by child consumerism, advertising culture or whatever. 0:05:35.920 --> 0:05:37.200 That was my my petty. 0:05:37.760 --> 0:05:41.360 And she was saying that Raffi actually. 0:05:41.120 --> 0:05:43.400 Could have been a millionaire many times over, but he 0:05:43.440 --> 0:05:45.280 would he refused to let his music be sold for 0:05:45.400 --> 0:05:50.760 children's advertisements. WHOA, yeah, that's what she told me. Have 0:05:50.839 --> 0:05:51.560 in fact shocks, So. 0:05:51.680 --> 0:05:54.000 He could have had a Nickelodeon show or something or 0:05:54.080 --> 0:05:55.240 like what did she mean he could have? 0:05:55.600 --> 0:05:57.640 Like he would have made so much money if he 0:05:57.720 --> 0:06:00.200 had like lent his song to like, you know, a 0:06:00.240 --> 0:06:02.080 paw patrol or like, I don't know, not a paw patrol, 0:06:02.120 --> 0:06:04.280 but like you know, some kind of any kind of 0:06:04.400 --> 0:06:06.680 toy or like to movies or anything that's like being 0:06:06.680 --> 0:06:10.720 aimed towards kids, and he wouldn't do it. Wow, so 0:06:10.839 --> 0:06:14.280 he didn't want kids to be advertised too, I think so. 0:06:14.360 --> 0:06:16.080 I think he was like, let them find my music 0:06:16.120 --> 0:06:19.280 on a record player in a field. I bet he's 0:06:19.279 --> 0:06:22.839 still a millionaire though, yeah, oh I'm sure that's yeah, 0:06:22.839 --> 0:06:24.039 that's what I mean. I mean he could have been 0:06:24.160 --> 0:06:26.520 like a more millionaire, like you know, but yeah, like 0:06:26.600 --> 0:06:29.599 this thing in Canada, Raffi says no ads for kids 0:06:29.920 --> 0:06:33.160 like he he advocates for a child's right to live 0:06:33.200 --> 0:06:36.240 free of commercial exploitation, and he has consistently refused all 0:06:36.279 --> 0:06:38.760 commercial endorsement offers. That's what it says on his Wikipedia 0:06:39.320 --> 0:06:41.880 And I kind of like, wow, like love that about 0:06:42.000 --> 0:06:44.400 Raffi anyway. 0:06:44.200 --> 0:06:48.520 Amazing, Well that kind of reminded me and then fully 0:06:48.600 --> 0:06:52.560 left my brain immediately and now it's back. So there's 0:06:52.600 --> 0:06:54.440 this woman. I think I talked to you about her, 0:06:54.560 --> 0:06:57.200 but her name is Chelsea Fagan. I found her TikTok, 0:06:57.279 --> 0:06:59.840 but I used to read her stuff on Thought Catalog 0:07:00.200 --> 0:07:04.840 like back in the day, and Ryan Hannels, yes, picks 0:07:04.880 --> 0:07:08.360 her mom hair. So she's the CEO of this company 0:07:08.400 --> 0:07:10.520 called the Financial Diet and I think it's just like 0:07:10.920 --> 0:07:13.960 YouTube and social media finance advice for young people. But 0:07:14.360 --> 0:07:17.520 she has eleven employees. She is the CEO, and she's 0:07:17.600 --> 0:07:21.360 the fifth highest paid in her company. She says it's 0:07:21.440 --> 0:07:24.560 bullshit to think that executives are the most valuable or 0:07:24.640 --> 0:07:27.720 the most important to a company. She goes, I am not, 0:07:28.080 --> 0:07:29.840 and there are people who deserve to get paid more 0:07:29.880 --> 0:07:32.720 than me. She's not given herself a raise in five years. 0:07:32.840 --> 0:07:35.200 She says, I make enough money. I have other endeavors. 0:07:35.280 --> 0:07:40.040 I don't need more money and I don't. That's that wow. 0:07:41.600 --> 0:07:44.720 So it's pretty cool with their integrity. It's but as 0:07:44.800 --> 0:07:47.200 you say, it's tough to have integrity, you know. 0:07:49.280 --> 0:07:52.400 But she's doing well, you know what I mean, Like 0:07:53.440 --> 0:07:55.080 and she can and a lot of the comments are 0:07:55.120 --> 0:07:57.240 always like you're out of touch, you're rich, And she 0:07:57.400 --> 0:08:00.320 came from low income. She was raised low income, and 0:08:00.680 --> 0:08:02.720 that's where a lot of her education and I think 0:08:02.760 --> 0:08:03.920 with money also comes from. 0:08:04.000 --> 0:08:07.040 And like I don't know, but they own their apartment, 0:08:07.120 --> 0:08:07.960 her and her husband. 0:08:08.840 --> 0:08:10.960 She dressed as well, Like, you know, I don't know 0:08:11.080 --> 0:08:12.960 if she's lat And it's kind of the thing where 0:08:13.000 --> 0:08:15.720 at a certain point, your happiness does not grow with 0:08:15.800 --> 0:08:17.560 the amount of money you have, and I think she's 0:08:17.680 --> 0:08:20.880 at that point. But just to be aware enough to 0:08:20.920 --> 0:08:22.640 be like, I do not deserve the most that my 0:08:22.760 --> 0:08:25.720 own company. I have never heard anything like it. 0:08:27.440 --> 0:08:30.360 Ever. Yeah that is I mean, I. 0:08:30.400 --> 0:08:33.040 Heard the Costco guy is good. I heard the Patagonia 0:08:33.120 --> 0:08:35.120 guy is good, but like I don't you know, I 0:08:35.160 --> 0:08:41.960 don't really know about oh oh well yeah. I also 0:08:42.040 --> 0:08:45.040 saw this family having a birthday party at Costco and 0:08:45.080 --> 0:08:46.280 I was like, that's fucking cute. 0:08:47.080 --> 0:08:49.360 Oh my gosh. I really love the Costco pizza. 0:08:49.640 --> 0:08:51.320 I get a piece sometimes when I go to Costco 0:08:51.360 --> 0:08:52.920 and just sit there and have a life ofttle Costco 0:08:52.960 --> 0:08:54.040 pizza by myself. 0:08:53.880 --> 0:08:55.920 Because I know the Costco hot Dog's the big item. 0:08:55.960 --> 0:08:58.160 But you know, I can't have that, and. 0:08:58.200 --> 0:08:59.959 I'm a snob with when it comes to my home. 0:09:00.520 --> 0:09:02.480 I want a beef I want a beef dog baby. 0:09:02.960 --> 0:09:06.959 Oh guess what. So I went to McDonald's to get 0:09:07.040 --> 0:09:10.240 another Disney toy. I wanted to stab it again, you know, 0:09:10.480 --> 0:09:13.280 so last time. Basically Disney is doing the hundred years 0:09:13.280 --> 0:09:15.440 of Disney. You can get any cute toy. I got 0:09:15.559 --> 0:09:18.320 Star Wars, so I go, I just want a cute toy, 0:09:18.440 --> 0:09:20.600 like can I just get Sully or Mowana? 0:09:20.920 --> 0:09:24.880 Like can I get Pluto please. I went back. I 0:09:24.960 --> 0:09:26.440 got another Star Wars set. 0:09:28.200 --> 0:09:29.280 I cannot believe that. 0:09:30.160 --> 0:09:33.199 Yeah, it's a different one. It's c three po So 0:09:33.280 --> 0:09:35.559 I'll give it to Mateo. He really likes him. He 0:09:35.640 --> 0:09:40.320 thinks it's a gay robot. So but I can't even 0:09:40.360 --> 0:09:42.800 believe it. I can't even believe it that I got 0:09:42.840 --> 0:09:48.000 another Star Wars toy. Nobody wants this, nobody. It's just 0:09:48.160 --> 0:09:50.800 like what child knows and likes Star Wars Like that 0:09:50.960 --> 0:09:54.079 is for the parents. Like no child is going like 0:09:54.679 --> 0:09:57.360 that is getting happy meals want Star Wars. Unless I'm 0:09:57.400 --> 0:09:59.000 fully wrong. I did see some young. 0:09:58.880 --> 0:10:01.319 Jedi toys when I went to the store. Whatever, I'm 0:10:01.440 --> 0:10:02.160 just I'm pissed. 0:10:02.960 --> 0:10:05.439 Let's go so yeah, not to be too negative, you know, 0:10:05.640 --> 0:10:09.360 but I just want a cute toy, you know, And 0:10:09.760 --> 0:10:11.840 like if I didn't know what the options were would 0:10:11.840 --> 0:10:12.400 be another thing. 0:10:12.480 --> 0:10:14.720 But on the box you see all the other cute 0:10:14.760 --> 0:10:16.880 things you could get, and you can't just say to 0:10:17.000 --> 0:10:20.520 the guy, do you have anything else back there? Or 0:10:20.600 --> 0:10:21.760 is that an drive away? No? 0:10:21.920 --> 0:10:24.000 I drive away. I open it and I go, mother 0:10:24.120 --> 0:10:26.679 a fucker. I think next time we got to be 0:10:26.720 --> 0:10:29.439 doing a check on site. And then we gotta go. 0:10:29.520 --> 0:10:31.679 I'm sorry, sir, this is my second one. I can't. 0:10:31.760 --> 0:10:32.120 I can't. 0:10:32.280 --> 0:10:35.400 I can't have this again. Yeah, back there to dig 0:10:35.440 --> 0:10:37.520 around and tell me? Are you going to different McDonald 0:10:37.640 --> 0:10:38.640 Maybe that one's cursed. 0:10:39.400 --> 0:10:41.000 I went to the same one. I will go to 0:10:41.080 --> 0:10:42.760 a different one. I'm gonna go to a different one 0:10:42.800 --> 0:10:44.480 and see because this guy at least let me buy 0:10:44.520 --> 0:10:48.719 the toy without buying food, but without buying a happy meal. 0:10:48.880 --> 0:10:50.800 But we'll see, We'll see what happens. 0:10:50.920 --> 0:10:55.520 Yeah, I think this year I'm gonna try to get 0:10:55.559 --> 0:10:58.280 my kids on Santa's Lap, which I've never done before. 0:10:58.600 --> 0:11:01.719 Where and it's probably in West Virginia, which will be 0:11:01.840 --> 0:11:04.120 super interesting. I can't wait to see what the West 0:11:04.200 --> 0:11:07.600 Virginia Santa looks like, just because like we're getting there 0:11:07.640 --> 0:11:09.079 on like the twenty first, we're gonna have like a 0:11:09.120 --> 0:11:10.839 few days to kill. I feel like, yeah, let's like 0:11:10.880 --> 0:11:13.360 go to a dying mall and see Santa, you know, like, 0:11:14.080 --> 0:11:17.839 and I mean obviously i'll post the picks. I just 0:11:18.800 --> 0:11:20.760 I'm looking forward to seeing what happens because I can 0:11:20.840 --> 0:11:23.079 tell Oscar's just gonna like they met Chuck E Cheese 0:11:23.600 --> 0:11:25.319 last week two weekends ago, I don't know if I 0:11:25.400 --> 0:11:28.760 told you. And later Rosie was like, did you know 0:11:28.920 --> 0:11:31.480 that Chucky was a human in a suit? And I 0:11:31.640 --> 0:11:34.520 was like, you know, I thought it might be just 0:11:34.640 --> 0:11:38.360 because mice are usually pretty small, and she was like, yes, you're. 0:11:38.240 --> 0:11:39.320 Right, like. 0:11:40.800 --> 0:11:42.679 And then she was going around telling everybody I met 0:11:42.760 --> 0:11:44.199 Chuck e cheese, but he was just a human in 0:11:44.280 --> 0:11:44.600 a suit. 0:11:46.840 --> 0:11:51.679 She also advanced, do you think she's gonna like be no, 0:11:51.960 --> 0:11:53.120 Santa's a fraud too. 0:11:54.800 --> 0:11:56.000 She's gonna catch me early. 0:11:56.120 --> 0:11:58.320 I can tell because I already go, well, we'll see 0:11:58.360 --> 0:12:00.800 what I can I'll see what Santa brings you, you 0:12:00.880 --> 0:12:02.720 know what I mean? Like, well, like I just keep 0:12:02.800 --> 0:12:04.760 saying like, I'll see what I can find. I mean, 0:12:04.800 --> 0:12:07.640 we'll see what Santa will put on in his workshop, 0:12:07.720 --> 0:12:09.760 you know. Like, so, but do you do any gifts 0:12:09.880 --> 0:12:13.320 from you or it's all Santa? Or are they've a dad? 0:12:13.720 --> 0:12:15.920 They've been so little in the past, like this is 0:12:15.960 --> 0:12:18.520 probably the first Christmas where Rosie will even understand, like 0:12:18.840 --> 0:12:22.000 get like the Santa thing really, so I think, yeah, 0:12:22.000 --> 0:12:23.439 I'll say, oh, this is from us, because you know 0:12:23.440 --> 0:12:24.720 what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna get them a couple 0:12:24.800 --> 0:12:25.760 of like bigger things. 0:12:26.200 --> 0:12:27.800 Those will be from us. 0:12:27.920 --> 0:12:29.520 That'll be back at the house when we get back 0:12:29.520 --> 0:12:31.200 from the trip, because like I want to get them 0:12:31.240 --> 0:12:33.080 a little train table. I think that'll like keep them 0:12:33.080 --> 0:12:37.000 occupied and uh and we can't like fly with that obviously, 0:12:37.240 --> 0:12:39.280 so that'll be like, oh, that's from us, but everything 0:12:39.320 --> 0:12:41.000 else will be like from Santa, or like a couple 0:12:41.040 --> 0:12:43.000 of big things from us and everything from Santa, and then. 0:12:42.920 --> 0:12:45.200 They're gonna get be wrapped from that grandparents. 0:12:45.240 --> 0:12:47.839 They're gonna get stuff from you know, my my, my 0:12:48.040 --> 0:12:50.160 brothers and sisters are probably gonna get them shipped, so 0:12:51.360 --> 0:12:52.800 they're gonna have way too much crap. 0:12:53.280 --> 0:12:57.199 You always get them really practical stuff a train table. Yeah, 0:12:57.240 --> 0:12:59.600 it's like with the train tracks, you know what I mean, 0:12:59.679 --> 0:13:03.000 Like the I want to get them like yeah, because 0:13:03.040 --> 0:13:05.560 I think that that stuff's also like just it holds up, 0:13:05.640 --> 0:13:06.320 it doesn't break. 0:13:06.600 --> 0:13:08.199 They will play with it for a long time and 0:13:08.240 --> 0:13:11.040 then I'll sell it when I'm done. You know, I'm 0:13:11.120 --> 0:13:13.480 trying not to buy as much garbage plastic that's just 0:13:13.520 --> 0:13:15.360 gonna like go into a landfill when it breaks. Like 0:13:15.440 --> 0:13:18.320 I've bought Rosy two swimming chase dolls and they break 0:13:18.360 --> 0:13:20.680 immediately when she puts them in the bath, I gotta stop. 0:13:21.400 --> 0:13:23.880 Oh damn, that's a bummer. 0:13:24.120 --> 0:13:24.320 Yeah. 0:13:25.320 --> 0:13:27.520 The swimming Chase cannot swim, in case anyone's thinking about 0:13:27.520 --> 0:13:28.120 it for Christmas. 0:13:28.200 --> 0:13:30.400 He really can't. He moves his little pause as fast 0:13:30.440 --> 0:13:32.079 as he can, but he cannot stay above water. 0:13:32.840 --> 0:13:35.800 Yeah. For when I brought gifts to the kids, I 0:13:35.920 --> 0:13:41.440 got one the Dalmatian and then the girl. Oh those 0:13:41.480 --> 0:13:44.640 are the two Guy and Marshall. I was not about 0:13:44.679 --> 0:13:48.360 to get kids cop shit, you know. And it's weird 0:13:48.400 --> 0:13:50.600 because Chase is like the most popular one. He's kind 0:13:50.640 --> 0:13:53.600 of like the head dog. And then Marshall, I would say, 0:13:53.679 --> 0:13:57.840 and Sky are seconds. Yeah, Marshall is the fire fire. 0:13:58.320 --> 0:14:02.280 Yeah. The Dalmatian we meet? We met, or was I 0:14:02.400 --> 0:14:03.880 with Jared gold Stein? 0:14:04.559 --> 0:14:09.400 I met a Dalmatian in Vermont, And usually dalmation owners 0:14:09.640 --> 0:14:12.080 are like on their own business. 0:14:12.200 --> 0:14:14.560 But this guy was really friendly and like let us 0:14:15.200 --> 0:14:17.440 like he like let us talk to him and stuff. 0:14:17.920 --> 0:14:20.080 I heard a thing about Dalmatians a long time ago. 0:14:20.120 --> 0:14:21.360 I don't know if I've ever brought this up. 0:14:21.400 --> 0:14:23.320 We talked about it, that they're bad, that they're bad 0:14:23.360 --> 0:14:26.520 for kids. No, no, not that what I've heard is 0:14:26.600 --> 0:14:29.400 that Dalmatians are sympathetic dogs, like they need to have 0:14:29.480 --> 0:14:33.320 another Dalmatian with them, and so like after like one 0:14:33.400 --> 0:14:35.400 hundred and one Dalmatians came out, there was like a 0:14:35.560 --> 0:14:39.200 huge like rush to go buy Dalmatian puppies and then 0:14:39.200 --> 0:14:41.360 they were misbehaving and they were bad because they want 0:14:41.400 --> 0:14:44.240 another Dalmatian with them, and everyone was just buying one, 0:14:44.720 --> 0:14:46.360 and then everyone was returning them and there were all 0:14:46.400 --> 0:14:49.320 these Dalmatians at like shelters and this was obviously like 0:14:49.520 --> 0:14:52.440 years and years and years ago, but that like that's 0:14:52.480 --> 0:14:54.640 the deal, like they want to be with another Dalmatian. 0:14:55.200 --> 0:14:57.920 Interesting. This guy was only one, but it was really cute. 0:14:57.960 --> 0:14:59.840 But I was like, I was like, this dog is 0:15:00.040 --> 0:15:03.480 so sweet, Like why does everyone talk shit about Dalmatians 0:15:03.520 --> 0:15:07.040 being like bad? And he goes, well, they're inbread, they're 0:15:07.080 --> 0:15:08.240 gonna have some problems. 0:15:08.680 --> 0:15:12.200 Well speaking of but speaking of by the time this 0:15:12.320 --> 0:15:14.200 episode comes out, I think I'll be allowed to talk 0:15:14.240 --> 0:15:17.000 about it. But my brother and his husband are getting 0:15:17.000 --> 0:15:22.360 a dog and it's a Frenchie and I was like, 0:15:23.000 --> 0:15:25.400 I was like, on brand, yeah, I go. He goes, 0:15:25.480 --> 0:15:27.440 I know it's very gay, and I go, you gotta 0:15:27.480 --> 0:15:30.280 get that insurance. Those things are so inbred they get 0:15:30.360 --> 0:15:36.760 so many problems. And he really is like really super cute. 0:15:37.080 --> 0:15:40.080 He's perfect. I mean, they're perfect little dogs. But yeah, 0:15:40.160 --> 0:15:42.480 they are gonna snore and smile. It's like a really 0:15:42.560 --> 0:15:43.480 special color. 0:15:44.320 --> 0:15:48.320 I don't know. I and he said, the dog's really chilly, 0:15:48.400 --> 0:15:50.240 doesn't bark a lot. But so now they're a little 0:15:50.280 --> 0:15:52.800 concerned because they're like, why is this puppy not like 0:15:52.920 --> 0:15:55.720 wriggly and freaking out and like you know as and 0:15:55.800 --> 0:15:57.920 he has a head tilt, so they're they're they're they're 0:15:57.920 --> 0:15:58.960 gonna get him tested out. 0:15:59.040 --> 0:16:01.280 I think they're gonna te So what could be what 0:16:01.400 --> 0:16:02.320 are they scared of? 0:16:03.040 --> 0:16:05.000 Like that he could be ill or something because he 0:16:05.040 --> 0:16:06.960 doesn't act like the rest of his siblings in the 0:16:07.120 --> 0:16:09.200 litter or whatever, and he's not and he has this 0:16:09.320 --> 0:16:11.880 head tilt like he's always like this. 0:16:12.160 --> 0:16:14.040 A little quiet boy, I know. 0:16:15.120 --> 0:16:17.800 But also what the Dalmatian guy said is they're very 0:16:17.920 --> 0:16:21.000 active dogs, like they need a lot of exercise, and 0:16:21.160 --> 0:16:24.600 so when families get them, they're not they're not giving 0:16:24.640 --> 0:16:26.880 them the proper exercise they need. So of course they're 0:16:26.920 --> 0:16:30.280 misbehaving in the home, like except for about a regular person. 0:16:30.560 --> 0:16:33.240 Yeah, you got to run them. But this dalmation I 0:16:33.360 --> 0:16:35.320 was petting was like very very nice. 0:16:35.600 --> 0:16:36.120 I love that. 0:16:37.000 --> 0:16:40.080 I mean, I I can't believe they're gonna get Wait, 0:16:40.080 --> 0:16:44.360 what's your brother naming the dog? They while they're arguing 0:16:44.440 --> 0:16:46.680 about it, because I think they want to name it Benjamin, 0:16:46.840 --> 0:16:47.280 like Benji. 0:16:47.560 --> 0:16:48.480 They want to call it Benji. 0:16:49.240 --> 0:16:57.160 But then Joe likes Pretzel and like, so they're I know, 0:16:57.520 --> 0:17:00.320 so they're I think they're going back and forth. I'm like, 0:17:00.360 --> 0:17:02.520 my brother Kevin was sending this meme from that show 0:17:02.600 --> 0:17:06.960 Letter Kenny that says, like animals, human names are for humans, Like, 0:17:07.080 --> 0:17:08.920 don't name dogs human names. 0:17:09.000 --> 0:17:12.240 I guess so that would mean she is cute. 0:17:12.320 --> 0:17:14.760 There's a movie, but Pretzel is adorable. 0:17:14.880 --> 0:17:17.760 To ex Colin for me right now saying I vote Pretzel, okay, 0:17:17.800 --> 0:17:20.280 if my vote means anything, I'm voting Pretzel. 0:17:20.480 --> 0:17:20.840 Okay. 0:17:21.480 --> 0:17:23.960 That is so cute because when you first said Benjo's like, 0:17:24.000 --> 0:17:26.320 oh that's cute, and then once Pretzel came out of 0:17:26.359 --> 0:17:28.520 your mouth, there's there's nothing stopping me. 0:17:29.000 --> 0:17:30.520 Hold on, I'm gonna do it. A voice to text. 0:17:30.720 --> 0:17:33.399 I'm podcasting with Lisa right now, and she says her 0:17:33.480 --> 0:17:34.360 vote is for Pretzel. 0:17:37.520 --> 0:17:43.000 He's gonna be mad. Oh uh oh. I heard of 0:17:43.080 --> 0:17:45.840 the Wrath of Colin. But I think it's cute. 0:17:45.880 --> 0:17:47.720 But I also think it's so funny that they're gonna 0:17:47.720 --> 0:17:50.959 get this dog right before we all descend on their 0:17:51.000 --> 0:17:53.760 home for the holidays, Like this new dog's gonna be 0:17:53.800 --> 0:17:55.480 like getting used to his house and then we're gonna 0:17:55.480 --> 0:17:56.199 be like, what's up. 0:17:56.320 --> 0:17:57.600 It's four kids and a. 0:17:57.640 --> 0:18:01.760 Bunch of adults, like in a little house, not a 0:18:01.800 --> 0:18:03.760 little house. It's a big house, but in a house 0:18:03.840 --> 0:18:06.800 not going outside much because it's December. It's just gonna 0:18:06.800 --> 0:18:07.200 be funny. 0:18:08.520 --> 0:18:10.639 It will be funny. How do you think about this? 0:18:10.840 --> 0:18:15.080 I'm going to a birthday party tonight and yesterday I asked, so, 0:18:15.400 --> 0:18:17.560 what's on the menu? What's the vibe? But what am 0:18:17.600 --> 0:18:20.480 I wearing? And I do love this, but a part 0:18:20.520 --> 0:18:23.480 of me is like what. But it's gonna be McDonald's. 0:18:25.000 --> 0:18:27.840 They're getting tons of cheeseburger nuggets and fries, and I'm 0:18:27.920 --> 0:18:30.840 just like that actually tracks for me for this person, 0:18:31.960 --> 0:18:35.000 Like I there's not gonna be any crew to say. 0:18:35.119 --> 0:18:37.400 I mean, I'm not even a veggie, Like there needs 0:18:37.440 --> 0:18:40.359 to be another option. I love McDonald's. Yeah, And I've 0:18:40.400 --> 0:18:43.000 brought McDonald's to other gatherings that we've been two together, 0:18:43.119 --> 0:18:45.560 but it was like five of them, Like I just yes. 0:18:46.560 --> 0:18:49.119 And for the super Bowl party, like we know someone. 0:18:49.359 --> 0:18:51.920 I remember one time someone came with tons of McDonald's 0:18:51.960 --> 0:18:54.240 and they were a hero. But there's like dozens of 0:18:54.320 --> 0:18:57.000 people and dozens of other options, and it's. 0:18:56.920 --> 0:18:58.600 A super Bowl party in the middle of the day. 0:18:58.640 --> 0:19:01.840 It's like different than like an adult birthday party evening. 0:19:01.640 --> 0:19:06.919 You know, I get it right. I was kind of like, huh, weird. 0:19:07.920 --> 0:19:10.920 I think maybe they're like, it's small, everybody loves this, 0:19:11.359 --> 0:19:13.200 it's easy, let's just fucking do that. 0:19:13.280 --> 0:19:13.920 I mean, I don't know. 0:19:14.000 --> 0:19:15.880 It kind of tracks for me for this person who's 0:19:15.920 --> 0:19:18.040 like a contrarian and is going to do something that's 0:19:18.320 --> 0:19:20.280 opposite of what you think and what you want. You know, 0:19:21.000 --> 0:19:26.960 you're right, so contrarian. It's honestly, I can't. But what 0:19:27.119 --> 0:19:31.040 if I'm gonna bring pad tie with me, you bring 0:19:31.080 --> 0:19:32.960 your own you bring like your own shrimp cocktail platter. 0:19:33.000 --> 0:19:35.760 You're like just wanted to class it up a little. Yeah, 0:19:36.160 --> 0:19:36.639 I love it. 0:19:36.880 --> 0:19:39.879 It's just I think if you're hosting something, you should 0:19:39.880 --> 0:19:42.760 have other options, but you said it tracks for this part, 0:19:42.800 --> 0:19:44.280 but like you would get there and you'd have. 0:19:44.320 --> 0:19:44.880 Nothing to eat. 0:19:45.440 --> 0:19:47.919 I mean I would eat fries. I guess, yeah, you're right. 0:19:48.040 --> 0:19:49.040 Yeah yeah. 0:19:49.640 --> 0:19:51.920 Colin texted me back and said, I admire her bravery. 0:19:52.280 --> 0:19:57.000 I don't really because he knows he's gonna come for me. 0:19:59.359 --> 0:20:01.400 You're dead the next time they come and order duck 0:20:01.480 --> 0:20:03.240 together at a meal, You're dead. 0:20:04.200 --> 0:20:04.600 All right. 0:20:04.880 --> 0:20:07.159 Before we get started on the episode, because Casey is 0:20:07.200 --> 0:20:10.600 about to kill us, let's just quickly remind you that 0:20:10.640 --> 0:20:13.040 we're gonna be in Seattle on January seventh. 0:20:13.160 --> 0:20:15.199 Come see us. We're at the Wet City Comedy Festival. 0:20:15.280 --> 0:20:16.280 We really love this venue. 0:20:16.320 --> 0:20:20.440 We're at the Crocodile that's also called the Hereafter. It's 0:20:20.520 --> 0:20:23.000 an awesome venue that we've done. We actually some of 0:20:23.080 --> 0:20:25.480 our first live shows were in the small room at 0:20:25.920 --> 0:20:28.080 this place, and I think now we're doing the bigger room. 0:20:28.160 --> 0:20:30.240 So we really want to see you guys there because 0:20:30.240 --> 0:20:32.760 we haven't been to Seattle in yeah, a while, year 0:20:32.800 --> 0:20:33.160 and a half. 0:20:33.359 --> 0:20:35.560 So come see us. 0:20:35.800 --> 0:20:38.160 And the ticket link for that is at that's mess 0:20:38.280 --> 0:20:42.360 uplive dot com. Also in our Instagram bio and uh yeah, 0:20:42.400 --> 0:20:43.800 We hope to see you guys, and thank you to 0:20:43.800 --> 0:20:46.120 everybody who came to see us on tour in twenty 0:20:46.160 --> 0:20:49.120 twenty three. We had the best time. We love meeting 0:20:49.160 --> 0:20:51.600 you guys, We love performing for you live. It's just 0:20:51.760 --> 0:20:54.359 like truly a treat, So thank you, guys. Lisa, I 0:20:54.400 --> 0:20:56.320 don't know if you have any other words. 0:20:57.119 --> 0:21:01.400 Yeah, I hope everyone has a festive or non festive holiday, 0:21:01.440 --> 0:21:06.800 whatever you feel like, whether you're eating Chinese by yourself, 0:21:06.920 --> 0:21:11.680 watching you know, succession, or you're flying home to a 0:21:11.760 --> 0:21:14.520 father of the bride's style house and having a full 0:21:14.640 --> 0:21:20.720 blown Christmas. You know, I hope it's either spectrum is 0:21:20.800 --> 0:21:23.080 what you want it to be. I did have a 0:21:23.160 --> 0:21:24.720 moment where I was talking to someone that I know, 0:21:24.840 --> 0:21:27.760 Kat and I casually and I asked about Thanksgiving and 0:21:27.920 --> 0:21:30.720 then he was like, I did nothing. 0:21:30.880 --> 0:21:31.520 I was alone. 0:21:31.640 --> 0:21:34.800 I got high and drunk and watched television and I 0:21:34.920 --> 0:21:37.480 went great. But I'm not asking a follow up. 0:21:37.560 --> 0:21:37.879 That's for. 0:21:42.320 --> 0:21:45.840 We Also, really we also completely ignored Honkkah. I will 0:21:45.880 --> 0:21:49.080 be lighting Honkkah candles with my children. It starts on 0:21:49.119 --> 0:21:53.240 December seventh. But you know, we ago we missed it. 0:21:53.400 --> 0:21:56.399 Were in the time machine. We forgot Hankkah, sorry Honkkah. 0:21:56.480 --> 0:21:59.320 Happy Festivus, Happy Kwanza to everybody for whatever you celebrate, 0:21:59.400 --> 0:22:01.719 whatever you don't. I love you guys, and I love 0:22:01.760 --> 0:22:04.560 the holiday season no matter what you celebrate. So let's 0:22:04.600 --> 0:22:07.800 get a hot chocolate yesterday. I had a hot chocolate 0:22:07.880 --> 0:22:08.359 last weekend. 0:22:08.480 --> 0:22:09.800 It's time. It's just time. 0:22:09.960 --> 0:22:12.879 It's that time of years, time, baby, hot chocolate season. 0:22:13.440 --> 0:22:13.600 Yeah. 0:22:13.640 --> 0:22:17.160 I had a nice hot chocolate at Mels. Oh, I see, 0:22:17.160 --> 0:22:19.000 I get. I like the Starbucks hot chocolate I do. 0:22:19.200 --> 0:22:21.320 I like, you know, what's the best hot chocolate coffee bean. 0:22:22.440 --> 0:22:24.240 I'm not saying I would go out of my way 0:22:24.280 --> 0:22:26.200 to go to the Mels for hot chocolate. That's just 0:22:26.240 --> 0:22:27.480 what I You know, got. 0:22:29.240 --> 0:22:31.200 Uh No, you're a huge Mets fan. 0:22:31.280 --> 0:22:32.760 You drive all the way to West Hollywood to get 0:22:32.760 --> 0:22:37.040 their hot chocolate every weekend. Listen, we are starting now 0:22:37.160 --> 0:22:38.920 and we have a great episode for you, guys. This 0:22:39.080 --> 0:22:46.640 is our holiday gift to you. Okay, guys, today we're 0:22:46.720 --> 0:22:50.840 doing an episode I love called Russian Brides. What's wild 0:22:50.840 --> 0:22:52.840 about this episode is I think of this as a 0:22:52.920 --> 0:22:55.040 Neil Barriers episode. I think I think of this as 0:22:55.080 --> 0:22:58.440 like a Season seven Season eight but it is season thirteen, 0:22:58.920 --> 0:23:03.760 a Stabler Free Time episode seven. This came out in uh, 0:23:03.880 --> 0:23:07.000 you know, twenty eleven. The very end it's there's a 0:23:07.119 --> 0:23:10.200 chill in the New York air so uh. The episode 0:23:10.280 --> 0:23:12.679 opens a hot babe is walking through empty New York 0:23:12.720 --> 0:23:15.480 City streets at night, no jacket, just a tight dress. 0:23:15.640 --> 0:23:18.520 Uh oh, and we don't see her face, we just 0:23:18.520 --> 0:23:21.399 see the back of her. Someone with a Russian accent 0:23:21.560 --> 0:23:23.920 pulls up in a car alongside her and is yelling 0:23:24.560 --> 0:23:27.760 ugle ugele with like so they're saying angel but with 0:23:27.840 --> 0:23:31.560 a hard G. And he's like, stop, where do you go, 0:23:31.720 --> 0:23:35.320 little girl? And I hate I hate that. And she's 0:23:35.600 --> 0:23:38.080 getting scared and she starts running and then he's screaming 0:23:38.119 --> 0:23:40.080 at her like no, don't run away. But then it 0:23:40.119 --> 0:23:42.680 gets increasingly mad. He's like get in the car. And 0:23:42.920 --> 0:23:45.080 now she's like running up and down ramps. I think 0:23:45.119 --> 0:23:47.080 there by the beach, it looks like she's going towards 0:23:47.080 --> 0:23:48.840 the water, so desolate. 0:23:49.040 --> 0:23:51.840 I just feel I'm like, yeah, my god, why is 0:23:51.880 --> 0:23:55.200 there not one bodega, one person on a stoop, like 0:23:55.400 --> 0:23:59.560 one light. It's it's so horrifying. This intro really makes 0:23:59.600 --> 0:24:01.560 me scared. It's really scary. 0:24:01.760 --> 0:24:04.200 It's like I don't remember, Like that's what people used 0:24:04.200 --> 0:24:05.760 to ask me, like do you feel unsafe in New York? 0:24:05.800 --> 0:24:08.400 I'm like, I'm almost never walking on a street where 0:24:08.440 --> 0:24:11.919 there's not other people or lights on or cars going by. 0:24:12.160 --> 0:24:14.760 Like I never felt like I was in dark warehouse 0:24:14.880 --> 0:24:17.359 areas or alleys, you know what I mean. But that 0:24:17.440 --> 0:24:19.920 could have just been my experience. I just like really wasn't. 0:24:20.680 --> 0:24:22.960 And so she's running up at this ramp, but a 0:24:23.040 --> 0:24:25.040 guy like cuts her off, so she runs back the 0:24:25.080 --> 0:24:28.360 other way, and now she's like screaming and we hear 0:24:28.480 --> 0:24:32.080 her screams as this like big guy gets out of 0:24:32.160 --> 0:24:35.359 a car with like a heavy bag and starts walking 0:24:35.440 --> 0:24:37.040 towards wherever this girl is. 0:24:37.440 --> 0:24:40.159 So and it's very horror movie vibes because it's like 0:24:40.240 --> 0:24:45.760 you're running to a port like a rap, like don't 0:24:45.800 --> 0:24:48.520 go by water to people like to swim. 0:24:49.080 --> 0:24:51.840 Yeah, I don't know, but like it's nothing good is 0:24:51.880 --> 0:24:53.680 happening with a guy walking towards you with like a 0:24:53.760 --> 0:24:57.560 heavy leather bag so hard cuts a daylight. Two guys 0:24:57.600 --> 0:24:59.800 are taking out the trash outside of a restaurant, and 0:25:00.000 --> 0:25:03.720 and I am obsessed with like the silly conversations that 0:25:03.800 --> 0:25:05.920 people are having right before they find the body. It's 0:25:06.000 --> 0:25:08.040 so funny. It's like, oh, my mother in law or 0:25:08.119 --> 0:25:11.000 like whatever. And this one is two guys talking about 0:25:11.400 --> 0:25:13.680 One guy is like, you know, when you're outside, you 0:25:13.760 --> 0:25:15.600 got a brown bag. You're alcohol so you don't get 0:25:15.640 --> 0:25:18.760 a ticket. And his big shark tank idea is designer 0:25:18.880 --> 0:25:22.399 beer bags. He's like suede leather blure, like bling him out, 0:25:22.400 --> 0:25:24.440 and the other guy goes, yeah, they're called koozies, and 0:25:24.560 --> 0:25:27.920 he's like, oh, no, way, Like he was fully ready 0:25:27.960 --> 0:25:30.199 to present the sharks with his idea, and then they 0:25:30.320 --> 0:25:33.320 noticed done done, two legs sticking out from the side 0:25:33.440 --> 0:25:36.400 of the dumpster and undees are around the ankle. That's 0:25:36.440 --> 0:25:39.960 the international sign for call SV. So now Benson is 0:25:40.000 --> 0:25:42.480 on the scene with Warner. This girl has no purse, no. 0:25:42.600 --> 0:25:45.600 Id, and a butterfly tattoo and she's faced down on 0:25:45.720 --> 0:25:47.960 the ground. Yes, she's face down on the ground. 0:25:48.560 --> 0:25:51.000 So the bus boys that found her said the body 0:25:51.160 --> 0:25:53.400 was not there an hour earlier and no one heard 0:25:53.600 --> 0:25:56.879 or saw shit. She was sexually assaulted and then had 0:25:56.960 --> 0:25:59.480 blunt first trauma to the head. They do a countdown 0:25:59.520 --> 0:26:02.480 to flip or over and it is not pretty. On 0:26:02.520 --> 0:26:05.320 the other side, Amar looks like he's about to toss 0:26:05.400 --> 0:26:08.560 his cookies, which we've been talking about different words from 0:26:08.560 --> 0:26:11.879 barf and our live shows, and he goes, what is 0:26:11.920 --> 0:26:14.680 that acid? Like her face is just totally gone, and 0:26:14.840 --> 0:26:19.520 Melinda goes, it's mechanical, not chemical. So she also adds 0:26:19.560 --> 0:26:22.040 that they pulled her teeth as well, and they also 0:26:22.200 --> 0:26:25.280 cut off all her fingertips and this is like one 0:26:25.320 --> 0:26:27.120 of the most brutal body well. 0:26:27.440 --> 0:26:31.400 It remembers me of the TikTok trend, which was supposed 0:26:31.440 --> 0:26:34.720 to be like a joke where it's like women relaxing 0:26:34.960 --> 0:26:37.120 and then in the background, it's like they took off 0:26:37.160 --> 0:26:39.720 her eyes, they took off her finger Ye have seen that, 0:26:39.840 --> 0:26:42.040 and it's like a woman just like painting her nails 0:26:42.080 --> 0:26:46.399 in a robe. Yeah, Like that's like that's like an 0:26:46.440 --> 0:26:49.600 over exaggeration, and it's not in this episode. 0:26:49.720 --> 0:26:55.560 It's like, yeah, it really is brutal. It's it's it's horrible. 0:26:55.760 --> 0:26:59.879 So I wrote Jesus, this one is brutal in capital letters. 0:27:00.560 --> 0:27:04.520 So now Igleayamorrow spots another tattoo on her torso and 0:27:04.560 --> 0:27:06.560 the words are in cyrillic, and he's like, any of 0:27:06.640 --> 0:27:09.080 you guys read Russian, and Benson goes, actually, it's the 0:27:09.200 --> 0:27:12.920 only language I don't speak. So there's no dental for 0:27:13.000 --> 0:27:17.040 this girl, no fingerprints, no face, but they leave the tattoos. 0:27:17.720 --> 0:27:20.080 That's weird, and lives like well, they didn't want us 0:27:20.160 --> 0:27:21.479 to know who she is, but they wanted to make 0:27:21.520 --> 0:27:26.040 sure that someone got the message done done credits. So 0:27:26.160 --> 0:27:28.679 now top of act one, at the precinct, the gang 0:27:29.240 --> 0:27:32.240 is live, Finn and Rollins and they're all downloading Craigan 0:27:32.320 --> 0:27:37.280 on the victim, white late twenties, early thirties, assaulted, sexually murdered. 0:27:37.600 --> 0:27:40.119 No one saw or heard a thing tomorrow had a 0:27:40.200 --> 0:27:42.240 pal in the gang unit. Take a look at the tattoos. 0:27:42.280 --> 0:27:45.000 The butterfly is generic. She just loves Maria Carrey, but 0:27:45.119 --> 0:27:48.000 the other one is of a woman with a smoking 0:27:48.160 --> 0:27:51.600 gun and like some words behind her. And he said 0:27:51.640 --> 0:27:53.760 that one is specific to the Russian mafia and was 0:27:53.800 --> 0:27:57.240 probably done back in Russia. And Olivia goes the mark 0:27:57.280 --> 0:28:01.600 of a prostitute and you know, it's twenty it's twenty eleven. 0:28:01.680 --> 0:28:03.800 She's not saying sex worker yet, but she should be. 0:28:03.960 --> 0:28:06.359 The words in Russian that are printed on the tattoo 0:28:06.440 --> 0:28:11.320 mean mother, forgive me. So the preliminary autopsy came in 0:28:11.920 --> 0:28:16.040 and there was sand on the body. Let's just say, 0:28:16.160 --> 0:28:18.000 I don't want to get this like so graphic all 0:28:18.040 --> 0:28:21.000 of it, but like there's sand like in her canals 0:28:21.160 --> 0:28:24.840 and cuts from glass and debris. So you know, maybe 0:28:25.040 --> 0:28:27.160 she was at a beach or something, and the time 0:28:27.200 --> 0:28:29.200 of death was eight to ten hours before she was found. 0:28:30.119 --> 0:28:32.560 So Kragan's like, so she was murdered on the beach 0:28:32.640 --> 0:28:34.600 and then dumped at the restaurant. It's usually the other 0:28:34.640 --> 0:28:36.960 way around, and live pipes up and goes, wait a minute, 0:28:37.080 --> 0:28:39.520 and I love this. She goes, didn't the emmy get 0:28:39.640 --> 0:28:42.840 sand samples after the Gilgo Beach murders? Hell, yeah, We've 0:28:42.880 --> 0:28:45.760 already covered the Gilgo Beach murders. And she's correct. The 0:28:45.840 --> 0:28:48.480 medical examiners did get a bunch of sand samples because 0:28:48.480 --> 0:28:51.520 they wanted to connect and see, you know, whether the 0:28:51.600 --> 0:28:53.920 victims had been killed in the same place, et cetera, 0:28:53.960 --> 0:28:57.240 et cetera. So Rollins looks at the particle breakdown of 0:28:57.280 --> 0:28:59.239 the sand, because we all know Rollins is like our 0:28:59.320 --> 0:29:01.680 makeshift tear, like when they can't afford to like pay 0:29:01.720 --> 0:29:03.719 a ta roo actor for the day. They're like, Rollins 0:29:03.800 --> 0:29:06.440 is a professional. She looks at the whole sand particle 0:29:06.480 --> 0:29:09.440 breakdown and is like, up, we got lucky. It's from 0:29:09.480 --> 0:29:12.400 a repaired beach, meaning that the city spread the sand 0:29:12.800 --> 0:29:16.560 and there's only three repaired beaches in the area, Rockaway, 0:29:16.800 --> 0:29:20.200 Brighton Beach, and Coney Island, and Brighton Beach is still 0:29:20.400 --> 0:29:23.240 you know, extremely Russian. Amoral points out, which who else 0:29:23.520 --> 0:29:25.800 who wouldn't know that there? Who in that room would 0:29:25.840 --> 0:29:27.640 not know that? Like he's like, yeah, they call it 0:29:27.720 --> 0:29:29.960 Odessa by the Sea. It's like, wow, Amaro, thanks for 0:29:30.040 --> 0:29:32.160 the facts. Like, I know we have to I know 0:29:32.240 --> 0:29:34.480 we have to telegraph that to the audience. But like 0:29:34.760 --> 0:29:36.640 the people in the room, they know about Brighton Beach, 0:29:37.160 --> 0:29:41.920 like John Hurd got was a Russian mob episode in 0:29:42.040 --> 0:29:45.400 like season five or something. Remember, So they've been they've 0:29:45.400 --> 0:29:47.440 been talking to Russian mob people before. 0:29:47.640 --> 0:29:51.400 And Brighton Beach is where all of my trash family lives. 0:29:51.760 --> 0:29:54.800 So they are there, and I can attest that it's 0:29:55.000 --> 0:29:59.040 it's like Chinatown for Russians and Assa is where I 0:29:59.200 --> 0:30:02.000 was born, so and it is like a sea town, 0:30:02.120 --> 0:30:02.800 a party town. 0:30:03.640 --> 0:30:07.360 Yeah, but I have been to Brighton Beach only once 0:30:07.600 --> 0:30:10.360 with a Russian and it was like we went to 0:30:10.400 --> 0:30:11.200 a Russian restaurant. 0:30:11.280 --> 0:30:11.680 It was fun. 0:30:12.200 --> 0:30:14.560 Yeah, I like it was after a day at Coney Island. 0:30:14.920 --> 0:30:16.240 Damn, that's just a long day. 0:30:16.880 --> 0:30:18.640 Did you go to like old like a Russia, like 0:30:18.720 --> 0:30:20.480 just to sit down restaurant one where there's a band 0:30:20.560 --> 0:30:22.840 playing and it's like NonStop, no band, but. 0:30:22.880 --> 0:30:24.840 It was a sit down. It was like dark and 0:30:24.960 --> 0:30:25.640 like red. 0:30:27.080 --> 0:30:27.240 Yeah. 0:30:27.320 --> 0:30:31.959 Yeah, yeah, I like getting like I guess it's everywhere, 0:30:32.000 --> 0:30:35.000 but people playing like chess on the beach on the Yeah, 0:30:35.720 --> 0:30:38.240 you can get a little pit of skis sure, Like 0:30:38.480 --> 0:30:41.560 I don't know Dowe things with Doe things in it. 0:30:41.720 --> 0:30:42.800 No, mass doesn't. 0:30:43.360 --> 0:30:45.840 But yeah, I would say that I don't like that 0:30:45.960 --> 0:30:51.240 part of a family. I'll say that, Okay, I'm sure listen. Well, 0:30:51.960 --> 0:30:55.600 I always am like it's a sliding doors situation. Like 0:30:55.640 --> 0:30:58.320 I always think if my family moved there instead of Chicago, 0:30:58.400 --> 0:31:01.360 what my life would be like? Right, Like I wonder 0:31:01.440 --> 0:31:04.000 if I would because you don't really assimilate in any 0:31:04.040 --> 0:31:06.240 way because you're just living in a community with all 0:31:06.320 --> 0:31:10.640 your old school people. And it like the people I 0:31:10.800 --> 0:31:13.280 followed that I know, like there was one co counselor 0:31:13.320 --> 0:31:17.760 from fat Camp that's there, and like looking at her photos, 0:31:17.840 --> 0:31:19.960 it's just it's such a different world. 0:31:21.400 --> 0:31:24.200 Yeah, I wonder what would have happened Brighton Beach, Lisa 0:31:24.320 --> 0:31:26.960 would be it is so close to New York. I 0:31:27.040 --> 0:31:28.320 could have maybe escaped. 0:31:28.440 --> 0:31:32.160 But like I just I wonder, Yeah, I wonder what 0:31:32.240 --> 0:31:37.080 my accent would be, like, oh my god, Yeah, that's 0:31:37.160 --> 0:31:37.760 so funny. 0:31:38.000 --> 0:31:40.680 But the Russian mob is scary. It's all scary. Tim 0:31:40.800 --> 0:31:44.040 Dallen recently was saying, like, like Russia's old school. You know, 0:31:44.080 --> 0:31:46.080 they just exploded a plane a few months ago to 0:31:46.160 --> 0:31:50.520 kill one person. Yes, and he's just like Russia's old school, 0:31:50.680 --> 0:31:52.440 like they don't give a fuck, they'll they'll put. 0:31:52.320 --> 0:31:55.040 Down a whole plane. Yeah, it's scary. 0:31:55.120 --> 0:31:55.760 I mean I know that. 0:31:57.640 --> 0:32:00.280 Yeah, Putin will poison you in a different county when 0:32:00.280 --> 0:32:03.680 you least expect it, like it is. I'm even scared 0:32:03.720 --> 0:32:08.800 saying anything on this podcast right now. So I feel 0:32:08.800 --> 0:32:12.120 about scientology. Okay, Oh, but I did get some scoop recently. 0:32:13.760 --> 0:32:14.480 Where did I find it? 0:32:14.520 --> 0:32:15.800 I think I told you in the car during our 0:32:15.880 --> 0:32:19.760 road trip, but that porn stars say that Putin loves 0:32:19.800 --> 0:32:22.640 American porn stars and that porn stars are flown out 0:32:23.200 --> 0:32:25.840 and then he fucks them while seven security guards watch. 0:32:26.640 --> 0:32:30.120 You did tell me that, yeah, so, but that's it 0:32:30.240 --> 0:32:32.680 reminds you of Kim Jong un like loving Dennis Rodman 0:32:32.760 --> 0:32:35.280 in nineties basketball, you know what I mean? Like, yeah, 0:32:35.720 --> 0:32:38.240 they're so against the culture, but then they just like 0:32:38.320 --> 0:32:41.640 want porn in sports? What were our biggest our best sport? 0:32:41.760 --> 0:32:43.560 This is how we have to get putin though. This 0:32:43.680 --> 0:32:44.720 is how we take out Putin. 0:32:44.840 --> 0:32:47.320 Is like we train a porn star to be like 0:32:47.360 --> 0:32:50.640 a Manchurian candidate, you know, like something activates them, and 0:32:50.760 --> 0:32:51.360 they tried. 0:32:51.360 --> 0:32:52.960 It would be fascinate, Yeah, but it would be a 0:32:53.000 --> 0:32:55.720 suicide mission since the seventh security guards watch, So like, 0:32:55.840 --> 0:32:58.320 I don't know how you convinced the girl to do that, but. 0:32:59.000 --> 0:32:59.720 Well she had. 0:32:59.760 --> 0:33:01.239 It's has to be like a movie where she can 0:33:01.320 --> 0:33:04.240 take them all out. You know, she's that good. Okay, 0:33:05.000 --> 0:33:10.240 this is a movie we're gonna make. But anyway, so 0:33:10.400 --> 0:33:13.720 then Craigan tells them to track down this girl's identity 0:33:13.840 --> 0:33:16.920 using the butterfly tattoo because this other Russian mafia tattoo 0:33:16.960 --> 0:33:19.560 is gonna scare people off so cuts a fin in 0:33:19.600 --> 0:33:22.720 tomorrow at Brighton Beach asking around and guess what, no 0:33:22.800 --> 0:33:23.400 one's talking. 0:33:23.480 --> 0:33:23.760 Baby. 0:33:24.040 --> 0:33:26.480 Finn's like a lot of these people are undocumented, so 0:33:26.520 --> 0:33:28.480 they don't love talking to cops. And it's like, yeah, 0:33:28.520 --> 0:33:31.080 they're not gonna open up and tell you anything. And 0:33:31.200 --> 0:33:34.040 Finn says, witnesses are like children. They respond to bribes 0:33:34.120 --> 0:33:36.480 and threats and tomorrow ads and they're easy to trick. 0:33:36.520 --> 0:33:38.600 And I'm like, yeah, Zara does seem dumb. Sorry, I 0:33:38.640 --> 0:33:40.520 don't mean to talk badly. She is just a child 0:33:40.640 --> 0:33:43.080 on a television show. Though she doesn't seem the smartest, 0:33:43.360 --> 0:33:44.120 it's not her fault. 0:33:44.160 --> 0:33:46.120 Her parents have no love between them, and the mom 0:33:46.240 --> 0:33:49.760 is constantly deployed, so yeah, and the dad is constantly 0:33:49.880 --> 0:33:51.280 shooting on armed teens, so. 0:33:52.800 --> 0:33:55.520 She's gonna have some issues. But I will agree bribes 0:33:55.560 --> 0:33:56.920 and threats are very effective. 0:33:57.000 --> 0:34:00.400 So now they're at a restaurant, Russian music is playing, 0:34:00.520 --> 0:34:02.640 a blonde woman is yelling at employees and rush and 0:34:02.880 --> 0:34:05.000 I'm like, in my mind, I'm like, Lisa will tell 0:34:05.040 --> 0:34:07.560 me what she's saying. But you said that, It's like 0:34:07.760 --> 0:34:10.000 she's just being like, hurry up, you dumb idiots, Like 0:34:10.160 --> 0:34:12.960 hurry up, there's a party or whatever. So there's a 0:34:13.080 --> 0:34:15.800 hilarious poster on the wall that has like pink laser 0:34:15.880 --> 0:34:18.520 backgrounds of an eighties school photo, and it's all these 0:34:18.560 --> 0:34:20.680 pictures of people that come into the restaurant. I guess 0:34:20.840 --> 0:34:23.440 like my old bar in college had that, just like 0:34:23.960 --> 0:34:26.279 a bunch of like collage pictures of people drinking at 0:34:26.320 --> 0:34:26.560 the bar. 0:34:26.880 --> 0:34:32.040 I feel like my old dentist had that. That's so funny, 0:34:32.120 --> 0:34:34.239 like people just like thumbs uping with their wife. He 0:34:34.440 --> 0:34:36.239 was like he was like a kid dentist. So it 0:34:36.360 --> 0:34:37.840 was just like smiling, cute. 0:34:37.680 --> 0:34:41.480 Kids, cute, I send my never mind. I was like 0:34:41.520 --> 0:34:43.560 I sent my obgui on one Christmas card to be like, 0:34:43.640 --> 0:34:45.520 here are the kids you helped delivered. And I don't 0:34:45.520 --> 0:34:46.239 know if we made the wall. 0:34:46.920 --> 0:34:48.920 Did you see the video of Adele at her concert 0:34:49.000 --> 0:34:50.880 singing and then all of a sudden she starts like 0:34:51.000 --> 0:34:54.000 crying and she notices the doctor that delivered her son 0:34:54.320 --> 0:34:57.279 was in the audience, and she stops singing. She like 0:34:57.440 --> 0:34:59.920 hugs him and makes announce and the it's like full. 0:35:01.719 --> 0:35:04.960 She's very emotional when she sings, and her songs are emotional. 0:35:05.040 --> 0:35:07.520 But there was another clip I saw where she saw 0:35:07.560 --> 0:35:11.800 a mom up in the higher level, like holding a baby, 0:35:11.880 --> 0:35:15.040 like rocking a baby to sleep, and she's just started 0:35:15.120 --> 0:35:16.520 bawling at the idea of that. 0:35:16.719 --> 0:35:19.640 Like she's just very emotional, I think when she sings, 0:35:19.840 --> 0:35:21.520 Oh Love Adele. 0:35:22.760 --> 0:35:23.080 All right. 0:35:23.160 --> 0:35:27.480 From Adele's emotions to this Russian restaurant photo collage, Amaro 0:35:27.640 --> 0:35:30.360 notices that there's one picture where a guy is smiling 0:35:30.400 --> 0:35:32.040 in a woman. We can't see her face, but her 0:35:32.120 --> 0:35:34.120 butterfly tattoo is visible in the shot. 0:35:34.560 --> 0:35:35.400 How perfect. 0:35:35.800 --> 0:35:38.839 So they ask bossy blonde woman what's up, and she goes, nope, 0:35:39.000 --> 0:35:41.960 don't know her, don't speak English. And Finn's like, all right, 0:35:42.040 --> 0:35:43.960 let's call I in s and get some translators down 0:35:44.000 --> 0:35:45.640 here and just shut this place down while we wait 0:35:46.120 --> 0:35:46.960 huge spoilers. 0:35:47.040 --> 0:35:47.880 She speaks Iglish. 0:35:47.920 --> 0:35:49.480 She's like, no, we have a huge party coming in, 0:35:49.719 --> 0:35:51.719 Like I don't need the fuzz shutting me down. Like 0:35:51.920 --> 0:35:54.840 she caves, tells them that her name is Lena and 0:35:54.960 --> 0:35:57.000 that the guy she's with is named Daniel. They had 0:35:57.040 --> 0:35:59.560 their engagement party at the restaurant last Friday, and when 0:35:59.560 --> 0:36:02.440 I was like, show me the receipts. So at the 0:36:02.560 --> 0:36:06.240 Morgue Tomorrow tells Olivia that the girl's name is Lena 0:36:06.320 --> 0:36:08.719 and that the fiance is Daniel Carter, age forty eight. 0:36:08.800 --> 0:36:10.960 He's got two kids in college and runs a nonprofit, 0:36:11.120 --> 0:36:14.160 lives in kIPS Bay. No connection to the mob that 0:36:14.239 --> 0:36:16.480 they can see, and lives like but we know the stats. 0:36:16.560 --> 0:36:18.919 It's like almost always the man in the victim's life. 0:36:19.160 --> 0:36:21.560 And Tomorrow's like, yeah, that's why I believe in divorce. 0:36:21.640 --> 0:36:23.560 When you feel that thing building, you just got to 0:36:23.560 --> 0:36:26.600 get the hell out. And I'm like, you literally let 0:36:26.640 --> 0:36:29.440 your bad marriage fester for years. You didn't get the 0:36:29.520 --> 0:36:33.040 hell out until she got the hell out. Like he's 0:36:33.080 --> 0:36:36.040 such a hypocrite and lives like, oh, your parents divorced. 0:36:36.080 --> 0:36:38.919 Amorro's like, yeah, my dad also liked to beat my mom. 0:36:39.320 --> 0:36:40.840 We had a party the day he left. It was 0:36:40.880 --> 0:36:42.840 one of the best days of my life. Last he 0:36:42.920 --> 0:36:45.400 heard his dad was in Miami. Good riddance we know. 0:36:45.560 --> 0:36:48.960 Later Tomorrow's dad comes back into the picture and he 0:36:49.080 --> 0:36:52.279 says to live TMI and live goes no, and then 0:36:52.280 --> 0:36:54.400 Amarro's like, all right, I guess if we're sharing what 0:36:54.480 --> 0:36:57.560 about your dad and lives Like, uh, We'll say that 0:36:57.640 --> 0:36:59.200 for another time. We don't have time for all that. 0:37:00.200 --> 0:37:02.760 Then Melinda comes in to give us more horrible details 0:37:02.760 --> 0:37:03.759 about this woman's murder. 0:37:04.400 --> 0:37:05.200 The head wound is. 0:37:05.239 --> 0:37:07.440 What caused her death, but they also sexually assaulted her, 0:37:07.560 --> 0:37:10.319 using power tools to sand off her face and sowt 0:37:10.360 --> 0:37:12.920 off her fingertips. But she was dead for most of it. 0:37:13.560 --> 0:37:16.879 And honestly, we knew all this. I don't know why 0:37:16.920 --> 0:37:18.319 we had to come to the Morgan hear it again. 0:37:18.400 --> 0:37:20.319 She's really not telling us anything we didn't already hear 0:37:20.360 --> 0:37:22.759 at the crime scene. So it's just to hammer home 0:37:22.840 --> 0:37:25.440 the horrificness of the crime. So it turns out that 0:37:25.560 --> 0:37:29.080 this fiance his job is running a nonprofit. What does 0:37:29.120 --> 0:37:31.600 the nonprofit do? They build houses for the homeless and 0:37:31.719 --> 0:37:33.800 live goes. That gives him access to power tools, And 0:37:33.840 --> 0:37:36.360 I'm like, yeah, the entire population has access to power tools, 0:37:36.400 --> 0:37:38.880 like home depots are everywhere, but yes, this man may 0:37:38.920 --> 0:37:42.560 have had extra access to power tools. At Daniel Carter's apartment, 0:37:42.640 --> 0:37:45.800 the super is letting them in and he's he's like 0:37:45.880 --> 0:37:48.920 a weird super character, Like he's like, oh, yeah, Daniel 0:37:48.960 --> 0:37:50.960 and I play chess every day, one move a day. 0:37:51.080 --> 0:37:54.320 It's like, wow, that sounds like thrilling. He knocks on 0:37:54.400 --> 0:37:54.719 the door. 0:37:54.760 --> 0:37:57.040 He's like, mister Carter, no one answers, and he's like, 0:37:57.080 --> 0:38:00.120 what's going on, guys, And you know, Rollins's like he 0:38:00.160 --> 0:38:02.880 asked the questions around here, and Finn's like, open up 0:38:02.920 --> 0:38:05.160 the door or we'll knock it down because he hesitates 0:38:05.160 --> 0:38:07.640 about opening the door. And then Finn and Rollins and 0:38:07.760 --> 0:38:10.239 her guns drawn. The place is clear. They check out 0:38:10.560 --> 0:38:13.080 the very photoshopped photos of Lena and Daniel on like 0:38:13.200 --> 0:38:16.600 vacation and at parties or whatever, and the super is like, 0:38:16.680 --> 0:38:19.120 there's no way he would hurt her. She was his sunshine. 0:38:19.440 --> 0:38:21.160 And they're like, why don't you call him and find 0:38:21.200 --> 0:38:23.680 out where he is? And so the guy calls Daniel 0:38:24.120 --> 0:38:28.720 and Daniel's like, is Lena there? And he's like, uh no, boss, 0:38:28.760 --> 0:38:30.160 there's a package I can't sign for. 0:38:30.320 --> 0:38:31.120 You got to get home. 0:38:31.200 --> 0:38:32.800 And Daniel's like, I can't leave where I am and 0:38:32.880 --> 0:38:34.960 he hangs up on him, and the Super's like he 0:38:35.120 --> 0:38:38.080 sounds scared. So they take the phone to trace the call. 0:38:38.680 --> 0:38:41.279 Next we have tomorrow and live kind of on the scene, 0:38:41.320 --> 0:38:41.520 but the. 0:38:41.560 --> 0:38:42.279 Area is too big. 0:38:42.360 --> 0:38:44.560 They couldn't trace the call to a small enough area, 0:38:44.719 --> 0:38:47.799 so they're ish near where maybe the call came from. 0:38:48.440 --> 0:38:50.880 Live says that Rollins heard kids and music on the 0:38:50.920 --> 0:38:53.799 phone call and lives like, oh, there's a carousel right 0:38:53.800 --> 0:38:55.160 at the end of the pier, So we found a 0:38:55.200 --> 0:38:57.200 body there last fall, and I bet Olivia would have 0:38:57.239 --> 0:38:58.839 a great like bus tour of New York City. 0:38:58.960 --> 0:39:01.160 She'd be like that where we found this body. 0:39:02.040 --> 0:39:04.120 That's where I had a shootout and I almost died 0:39:04.120 --> 0:39:06.080 in front of my son, Like I would totally take 0:39:06.120 --> 0:39:09.160 the Olivia Benson New York City bus tour instead of 0:39:09.200 --> 0:39:10.120 the Sex and the City one. 0:39:10.680 --> 0:39:11.640 So they book it over to the. 0:39:11.680 --> 0:39:14.440 Carousel and the music is playing and they spot Daniel 0:39:14.719 --> 0:39:18.040 and this actor is Timothy Bustfield. He became famous for 0:39:18.120 --> 0:39:20.719 the show thirty something, I think was his big claim 0:39:20.760 --> 0:39:21.880 to fame, but then he later. 0:39:21.800 --> 0:39:24.120 Was on West Wing and Studio sixty. 0:39:24.280 --> 0:39:26.960 So he's a Sorkin head and he's been in a 0:39:27.040 --> 0:39:29.839 ton of stuff, like you recognize him, and they id 0:39:30.000 --> 0:39:32.319 themselves as cops and he's like, no, go away, go away, 0:39:32.360 --> 0:39:34.400 I didn't call you. They'll kill her, and he's like, 0:39:34.440 --> 0:39:37.520 please go away, and lives like serious face tells him 0:39:37.680 --> 0:39:39.879 something bad is going on, and he looks so sad. 0:39:39.920 --> 0:39:42.719 He's like, is she dead? And he starts crying and 0:39:42.840 --> 0:39:44.399 he's like, they said they'd bring her here. 0:39:44.840 --> 0:39:46.400 That was the deal I paid. 0:39:46.719 --> 0:39:48.680 And he's like breaking down, crying on his knees and 0:39:48.719 --> 0:39:50.760 he's just crying. I've been saying I paid, I paid 0:39:50.840 --> 0:39:52.960 over and over again. So this is very sad. 0:39:54.600 --> 0:39:55.040 BacT too. 0:39:55.280 --> 0:39:58.640 At the precinct, they're bringing Daniel into interrogation. The Wooden 0:39:58.680 --> 0:40:01.800 Blind's kind he did just his fiance and our buddy 0:40:01.840 --> 0:40:05.960 Michael Kostroff is there and he plays on many episodes 0:40:06.000 --> 0:40:09.160 of the show defense attorney Evan Brawn. But I think here, 0:40:09.920 --> 0:40:11.840 even though he might be listed on IMDb as that 0:40:11.920 --> 0:40:13.800 it seems he's playing a different character because he's like 0:40:13.840 --> 0:40:15.959 a tax attorney who's just helping his friend. 0:40:16.040 --> 0:40:17.200 He's like friends with Daniel. 0:40:17.840 --> 0:40:20.080 Or maybe he's a tax attorney who then gets a 0:40:20.120 --> 0:40:23.160 taste for criminal law and changes. But I literally wrote 0:40:23.160 --> 0:40:26.400 in my notes, do people change specialties in law like this? Like? 0:40:26.480 --> 0:40:28.680 Does anyone go from tax law to criminal like? 0:40:28.800 --> 0:40:31.920 Later? I feel like so, I think it's like usually 0:40:32.040 --> 0:40:34.840 go from doing the lord's work to money. 0:40:35.239 --> 0:40:36.520 That's the big glass switch. 0:40:36.960 --> 0:40:38.960 They're like, I'm gonna help people, and then they're like, 0:40:39.000 --> 0:40:41.120 get me the fuck out of here, and I want 0:40:41.120 --> 0:40:43.320 to that's what happens. 0:40:44.280 --> 0:40:48.160 So they he's like, listen, this is my friend. He 0:40:48.320 --> 0:40:50.600 lost his wife three years ago. Lena brought him back 0:40:50.600 --> 0:40:53.120 to life. I told him to cooperate with you, but 0:40:53.280 --> 0:40:55.480 go easy on him. And Lives like, yeah, are you 0:40:55.560 --> 0:40:59.040 a criminal attorney? And he's like, tax law, So I 0:40:59.080 --> 0:41:01.040 don't know. And it was like, just tell your guy 0:41:01.080 --> 0:41:04.120 to tell the truth. So in interrogation, Daniel is iding 0:41:04.160 --> 0:41:06.280 the tattoos. He's like, yeah, the butterfly was on her shoulder, 0:41:06.760 --> 0:41:10.760 the smoking gun lady one is on her like Torso 0:41:11.400 --> 0:41:13.560 he's a little embarrassed to admit that they met on 0:41:13.600 --> 0:41:17.400 a Russian bride website called yours Arena dot com and 0:41:17.680 --> 0:41:20.560 liv goes, yeah, we've seen scams through sites like that, 0:41:20.680 --> 0:41:23.000 and he's like no, no, no, no, no, Like look, 0:41:23.120 --> 0:41:24.719 I heard about it from a friend who used to 0:41:24.719 --> 0:41:26.880 go to Russia on business meet eight to ten girls 0:41:26.920 --> 0:41:28.960 from the site. Fuck all of them, marry none of them. 0:41:29.360 --> 0:41:31.400 He goes, my friend was divorced. It was just a 0:41:31.480 --> 0:41:34.480 sex trip for him. He said, you know, I was 0:41:34.520 --> 0:41:36.279 going through a really lonely time, so I just kind 0:41:36.280 --> 0:41:39.280 of started trolling the site. Then I saw Lena's profile 0:41:39.360 --> 0:41:41.879 and there was just something about her a vander Pump 0:41:41.920 --> 0:41:45.279 sandwich shop that will never be open, unfortunately, and they 0:41:45.400 --> 0:41:47.799 chatted over I Am. He said a little bit, Hey see, 0:41:47.880 --> 0:41:48.440 looks worried. 0:41:48.840 --> 0:41:50.920 They're just dealing with a lot of permits because Wes 0:41:51.000 --> 0:41:51.920 Hollywood is crazy. 0:41:52.080 --> 0:41:54.120 The hope they will open. I believe in it. I 0:41:54.239 --> 0:41:58.760 was concerned. I saw that. I'm nervous. I'm nervous. 0:41:58.800 --> 0:42:01.400 We're never They about it in Vegas at the panel 0:42:01.520 --> 0:42:04.959 at Bravocan, they were just like, listen, opening up something 0:42:05.000 --> 0:42:06.920 in West Hollywood is hard. They're like, we have to 0:42:07.040 --> 0:42:09.840 change the water heater. She's like the ship is so boring, 0:42:10.360 --> 0:42:12.719 and she's like it's just taking forever. And that's what 0:42:12.800 --> 0:42:15.040 you hear all the time about people opening restaurants and 0:42:15.120 --> 0:42:17.080 when you see it's like always behind schedule. 0:42:17.840 --> 0:42:20.440 Yeah, Karen doesn't think it's opening. She's a bitch. I 0:42:20.560 --> 0:42:21.680 do I support women. 0:42:21.800 --> 0:42:26.080 I support women women And at that sandwich tasting party 0:42:26.120 --> 0:42:27.759 there were like ten of them. I wanted to try. 0:42:27.840 --> 0:42:29.960 I'm dying for it to open. All drive thirty five 0:42:30.000 --> 0:42:32.640 minutes to get there. I'm just skeptical. 0:42:32.760 --> 0:42:34.480 Can't Lisa push some buttons? 0:42:34.680 --> 0:42:37.440 I know, it's like opening a restaurant. They don't want 0:42:37.480 --> 0:42:39.360 her in five minutes. I don't want to help. I 0:42:39.400 --> 0:42:42.680 don't they want her help at all. But I have 0:42:42.840 --> 0:42:45.919 a Miley Cyrus one. It's Celebs on sandwiches. I don't 0:42:45.920 --> 0:42:48.319 know if you follow that, but they just made one 0:42:48.360 --> 0:42:50.440 for Katie and Arianna with the Greek salad sandwich. 0:42:51.440 --> 0:42:55.640 Ooh, so it's happened, Goddess one. I want to try to. 0:42:57.239 --> 0:43:02.759 Anyway. I'm sorry for doubting the viabil of this vanderbub 0:43:02.800 --> 0:43:05.919 sandwich shop. I do hope it happens. They chatted over 0:43:06.080 --> 0:43:09.040 I am Daniel and Lena a little bit. Because you're 0:43:09.040 --> 0:43:10.880 not allowed to skype or anything. You just like can 0:43:10.960 --> 0:43:14.400 talk an instant messenger and then if you are, if 0:43:14.440 --> 0:43:16.759 you're one of our younger listeners, that was when we 0:43:16.960 --> 0:43:20.279 used to text message through the computer. And he had 0:43:20.320 --> 0:43:23.359 to fly to Moscow to meet her, and she took 0:43:23.440 --> 0:43:26.759 him all around Saint Petersburg, where his family is originally from, 0:43:27.239 --> 0:43:29.640 and then he shows them a super photoshop picture of 0:43:29.719 --> 0:43:32.200 them on his phone, like in front of it, like 0:43:32.320 --> 0:43:34.320 you know, in front of some monument in Saint Petersburg. 0:43:34.600 --> 0:43:36.359 They talked and talked. He said they had a real 0:43:36.440 --> 0:43:39.960 soul connection. And they're like, oh, okay, so was it reciprocal? 0:43:40.040 --> 0:43:42.080 Did you meet her friends and family? And he goes, well, 0:43:42.560 --> 0:43:44.440 she had to be really careful because she'd been in 0:43:44.440 --> 0:43:47.560 an abusive relationship and her ex was stalking her. He 0:43:47.880 --> 0:43:50.840 saw the ex like he was following them, and he 0:43:50.920 --> 0:43:52.919 made a scene one night wanting to get her back, 0:43:53.320 --> 0:43:55.760 and that's when he convinced her to move to America 0:43:55.840 --> 0:43:57.759 with him, and he was happy to get a second 0:43:57.840 --> 0:44:01.839 chance at love. They lived together two months before this disappearance, 0:44:01.960 --> 0:44:04.839 and you know murder, So he says, the night after 0:44:04.920 --> 0:44:08.120 the engagement party, he got a call from kidnappers demanding 0:44:08.160 --> 0:44:10.800 one hundred thousand dollars. He said he only had eighty K, 0:44:11.000 --> 0:44:12.960 but it was his life savings. He didn't even blink 0:44:13.000 --> 0:44:15.440 an eye and paid the ransom. He didn't call the 0:44:15.440 --> 0:44:17.000 police because obviously they said, if you call, the. 0:44:16.960 --> 0:44:17.640 Police will kill her. 0:44:18.200 --> 0:44:20.200 And he dropped the money in a garbage can in 0:44:20.280 --> 0:44:22.080 Brighton Beach and they were supposed to bring her to 0:44:22.160 --> 0:44:24.799 the carousel. He gave them everything he had and they 0:44:24.880 --> 0:44:28.280 still killed her. This is a very sad, sad story. 0:44:28.440 --> 0:44:30.319 They start going through tons of pictures of his trip 0:44:30.400 --> 0:44:33.160 to Russia, asking him like, hey, like, don't focus on 0:44:33.280 --> 0:44:36.000 like your dead fiance that you're obsessed with, Like focus 0:44:36.040 --> 0:44:38.279 on people in the background, Like does anyone look suspicious? 0:44:38.560 --> 0:44:39.640 Maybe you spot the X. 0:44:40.040 --> 0:44:41.759 And there's a scene of them like dancing to some 0:44:41.880 --> 0:44:44.160 musicians in a square and in the background they zoom 0:44:44.200 --> 0:44:46.880 in there's this bald, menacing man taking photos with like 0:44:46.960 --> 0:44:51.040 a sharpshooter. High Kira is the perfect word. This is 0:44:51.120 --> 0:44:54.600 a scary man. Yeah, this guy is scary as fuck 0:44:54.640 --> 0:44:58.680 and he's just like staring at them taking pictures and yeah, 0:44:58.719 --> 0:44:59.120 it's wild. 0:44:59.200 --> 0:44:59.960 No one really knows. 0:45:01.120 --> 0:45:04.239 And they zoom in and Daniel goes, that's him, that's 0:45:04.280 --> 0:45:06.239 the X. So Craigan's like, all right, let's run this 0:45:06.320 --> 0:45:09.399 guy's mug through facial recognition database, which sounds less fun 0:45:09.440 --> 0:45:13.600 than IMDb, inner, pol NCIC, whatever, And then Rollins is like, 0:45:13.680 --> 0:45:16.239 I got a little something on this Zarina website. They're 0:45:16.280 --> 0:45:18.800 hosted by a rogue provider with an office in Manhattan 0:45:18.840 --> 0:45:22.680 that does security called quick Secure, and so I mean 0:45:22.800 --> 0:45:24.920 they just it's like a horrible name for a business. 0:45:25.000 --> 0:45:26.640 At the quick Secure office. 0:45:27.040 --> 0:45:29.400 A nerd is telling them I don't really know anything 0:45:29.400 --> 0:45:31.560 about that site except someone wired in money for it 0:45:31.600 --> 0:45:34.600 from an offshore account. And then like computer whiz kid, 0:45:34.680 --> 0:45:36.600 Rollins is like, okay, cool, so just like give us 0:45:36.600 --> 0:45:38.480 the IP address and the wire info and we'll be 0:45:38.560 --> 0:45:40.640 on our way. And he goes, ah, I can't do 0:45:40.760 --> 0:45:43.319 that because of privacy, and so why don't you come 0:45:43.360 --> 0:45:46.279 back with a warrant, And then Rollins and Finn get 0:45:46.520 --> 0:45:49.840 straight up like bully mode. Finn gets in the NERD's 0:45:49.880 --> 0:45:52.200 face and goes, first, spit that lollipop out before I 0:45:52.320 --> 0:45:54.120 smack it out your mouth, and he goes, you're not 0:45:54.200 --> 0:45:57.839 a five year old, which I love. Like that to me, goes, 0:45:57.920 --> 0:46:00.200 if you puke in my car, I'll kill you. That 0:46:00.239 --> 0:46:01.880 should be on a sweatshirt that you're wearing through the 0:46:01.880 --> 0:46:04.600 airport multiple times. You're not a five year Old's put 0:46:04.600 --> 0:46:07.279 that lollipop out, you fucking punk, and roll let me 0:46:07.440 --> 0:46:10.960 check the NBC store and see if there's a fin merch. 0:46:11.680 --> 0:46:13.799 Rollins is like, hey, punk, you want a warrant, we'll 0:46:13.840 --> 0:46:15.680 bring in the FEDS. And this place is afront and 0:46:15.800 --> 0:46:18.480 your server is illegal, so don't fuck with us, and 0:46:18.600 --> 0:46:20.520 Finn's like, we're gonna shut this down, put your ass 0:46:20.560 --> 0:46:22.520 in jail. Well, you're gonna be sucking on something else. 0:46:22.560 --> 0:46:25.799 And it's like I don't normally love like you're gonna 0:46:25.800 --> 0:46:28.759 get raped in jail jokes. But they're going so hard 0:46:28.760 --> 0:46:30.400 at this little nerd and it is really funny to 0:46:30.440 --> 0:46:33.239 see him just be like uhmember like and he just 0:46:33.360 --> 0:46:34.680 goes all right, I'll help you. 0:46:34.760 --> 0:46:35.200 Don't call the. 0:46:35.239 --> 0:46:37.960 FEDS, and so he right down Malara, did you know 0:46:38.080 --> 0:46:40.600 that there's a Law and Order SVU monopoly? 0:46:41.840 --> 0:46:43.440 No, we gotta get that. 0:46:44.000 --> 0:46:45.440 We have to. But it's like I don't want to 0:46:45.480 --> 0:46:47.600 go to anywhere they go like do I buy Sing Sing? 0:46:47.880 --> 0:46:48.799 Like how does it work? 0:46:49.280 --> 0:46:49.520 Yeah? 0:46:49.800 --> 0:46:53.160 Like I'm trying to zoom in, but you. 0:46:53.239 --> 0:46:55.200 Got like when you go to jail, they're like you're 0:46:55.239 --> 0:46:57.480 going to Dana Mora, Like what the hell? 0:46:57.760 --> 0:46:58.480 What happens? 0:46:59.760 --> 0:46:59.920 Yeah? 0:47:00.320 --> 0:47:02.680 I would love to see that. We gotta play. 0:47:03.120 --> 0:47:05.960 So the nerd is like, here's where the last place 0:47:06.040 --> 0:47:08.160 this site was logged into and changed, and he's like 0:47:08.239 --> 0:47:10.200 are we good and they're like yep, all good, and 0:47:10.239 --> 0:47:13.080 then right as they leave, the FED storm in they're like, everybody, 0:47:13.239 --> 0:47:16.160 get drop your computers, and the nerds like, oh, come on, 0:47:16.400 --> 0:47:19.480 you lied to me, and Finn goes yep, and Rollins goes, 0:47:19.560 --> 0:47:22.600 ain't like a bitch, and it's like it's a very funny. 0:47:22.680 --> 0:47:25.080 Rollins and Finn just like fucking with this guy, and 0:47:25.160 --> 0:47:27.759 they fuck him over as well. At the address that 0:47:27.880 --> 0:47:30.760 he gives them, it's a Russian woman behind a desktop, 0:47:30.840 --> 0:47:33.480 insisting that she's running a travel agency. She's like, I 0:47:33.560 --> 0:47:35.200 get you a flight in a hotel. You find the 0:47:35.239 --> 0:47:37.479 bride yourself. She's like, you can check all my shit. 0:47:37.600 --> 0:47:40.520 I have nothing to hide. Meanwhile, right behind her is 0:47:40.600 --> 0:47:43.680 like the shadiest man of all time, trembling looking over 0:47:43.760 --> 0:47:46.960 his shoulder, dragging files to the trash as quick as possible, 0:47:47.000 --> 0:47:50.160 like he's a full cartoon character. Amorrow notices and is 0:47:50.239 --> 0:47:53.600 like hello, and he starts to run. They grab him. 0:47:53.640 --> 0:47:56.239 He runs right out onto like the brighton beach board rock, 0:47:56.360 --> 0:47:59.280 like his business is right there. They're on the boardwalk, 0:47:59.640 --> 0:48:02.400 and then a bunch of cartoon character Russian mobsters are 0:48:02.480 --> 0:48:05.280 just standing there like smoking cigarettes, watching him get arrested, 0:48:05.400 --> 0:48:08.440 like on the boardwalk, in front of everyone. So it's 0:48:08.600 --> 0:48:12.200 very clear, like what's happening here? And now we're an interrogation. 0:48:12.440 --> 0:48:15.840 This guy gets metal bars and he's like, I'm a 0:48:15.920 --> 0:48:18.440 travel agent. I just book flights and it's like sure, Jan, 0:48:18.640 --> 0:48:20.759 And then they show him the photo of the photographer 0:48:20.960 --> 0:48:25.360 in Daniel's photo and he's like, oh, holy shit, you 0:48:25.400 --> 0:48:27.239 guys have no clue who you're dealing with. Do you 0:48:27.560 --> 0:48:29.680 like that guy's a killer? He lives by the code. 0:48:30.160 --> 0:48:35.640 He's vor zeconya, which means thief in law or basically 0:48:36.440 --> 0:48:38.560 the mush the Russian mafia, Like I googled it and 0:48:38.640 --> 0:48:41.279 it was like it translates to thief in law, I guess, 0:48:41.440 --> 0:48:45.640 and then it's that's like the nickname for the Russian mafia. 0:48:46.000 --> 0:48:53.040 Well, yeah, because in Italian thequin is law. Yeah, I wonder. 0:48:54.440 --> 0:48:54.960 What the oh? 0:48:55.000 --> 0:48:56.879 Yeah, so I think when they say thief in law, 0:48:57.000 --> 0:48:59.480 they basically mean like you're a bad guy, but you 0:48:59.560 --> 0:49:01.960 also like run the town like you you're like it's 0:49:02.040 --> 0:49:04.400 legal to be a bad part, like a criminal. 0:49:04.840 --> 0:49:07.719 Which is I wonder which mob is the word? 0:49:07.760 --> 0:49:10.400 Like if all the mobs came together to do a 0:49:10.520 --> 0:49:13.640 full on battle three hundred style, like who is winning? 0:49:14.400 --> 0:49:20.360 Yeah, because like classically there's Italian, there's Iousa, there's the Yakuza, 0:49:20.480 --> 0:49:23.920 there's Chinese mob, there's Russian. 0:49:25.239 --> 0:49:26.560 Yeah, who knows? 0:49:27.400 --> 0:49:30.200 And like is there a Canadian mob or do all 0:49:30.280 --> 0:49:33.960 these cultures come into Canada and run it, like because 0:49:33.960 --> 0:49:39.000 the Italian mob's here, right, Oh my god, that's so funny. Yeah, wait, 0:49:39.120 --> 0:49:41.880 what do your impression of Big Ange? 0:49:43.000 --> 0:49:49.000 Oh so we just got out of jail for murder. 0:49:53.320 --> 0:49:54.920 It's the best. 0:49:55.520 --> 0:49:56.839 Oh my god, it's the best. 0:49:57.239 --> 0:49:58.319 Yeah, I am so. 0:49:58.680 --> 0:50:01.120 Well because I have like the book set of like 0:50:01.239 --> 0:50:05.919 Russian criminal Tattoo. There's just something that is scary about 0:50:05.960 --> 0:50:10.279 my people, Like I don't know, I am yes, But 0:50:10.440 --> 0:50:13.480 there's an episode of this is actually happening a podcast 0:50:13.560 --> 0:50:16.360 on Onedery and they have an episode of like the 0:50:16.440 --> 0:50:19.400 Yakuza came after me, like they went to Japan and 0:50:19.520 --> 0:50:21.440 got in the mix, like in the mix of something, 0:50:21.560 --> 0:50:22.640 but obviously survived. 0:50:22.640 --> 0:50:23.759 I remember listening to it. 0:50:24.640 --> 0:50:27.600 But isn't there isn't that kind of what Bert Kreischer's 0:50:28.040 --> 0:50:30.320 movie is about. Like he goes to like Prague and 0:50:30.400 --> 0:50:32.279 like fucks with the wrong people and like the mob 0:50:32.400 --> 0:50:32.920 is after him. 0:50:33.239 --> 0:50:36.320 Yeah, but it's the machine, it's Russian, it's Mashina, so 0:50:36.560 --> 0:50:40.040 like yeah, so I don't know, I haven't watched it, 0:50:40.480 --> 0:50:43.240 but that's obviously what got my sister and everyone involved. 0:50:43.239 --> 0:50:46.440 If you do a joke about anything remotely Russian, my 0:50:46.480 --> 0:50:49.960 sister will find it like she loves Dan Soda stretching 0:50:50.040 --> 0:50:53.799 the hashtag like Dan Soder, you have an old ass joke. 0:50:53.840 --> 0:50:55.600 This is so long ago on Conan where it was 0:50:55.719 --> 0:50:58.440 just like if you're in a bad neighborhood and you 0:50:58.560 --> 0:51:00.800 feel nervous if someone fuck so, if you just speak 0:51:00.800 --> 0:51:02.880 in a Russian accent and they will be scared, just 0:51:02.960 --> 0:51:05.200 be like, I'm really bad at accents, but it's. 0:51:05.080 --> 0:51:08.560 Like this is a bad neighborhood and like that. People. 0:51:10.239 --> 0:51:12.440 It's like, people, you can't do a Russian accent. 0:51:12.920 --> 0:51:14.880 I can't do any accents. I'm so bad at it. 0:51:15.280 --> 0:51:18.240 Your Russian accent would just be like imitating your parents 0:51:18.320 --> 0:51:19.080 speaking English. 0:51:19.320 --> 0:51:22.799 Yeah, I'm really bad at imitations and impressions. You've seen 0:51:22.880 --> 0:51:23.840 my accent videos. 0:51:23.960 --> 0:51:25.239 Oh, I know, but I just thought of. 0:51:25.320 --> 0:51:27.240 All of them that you'd be able to do Russian. 0:51:27.480 --> 0:51:29.960 And I mean, look, I've heard Jamaic and I've heard 0:51:30.000 --> 0:51:30.919 other ones are not good. 0:51:33.440 --> 0:51:35.239 It's like, I don't know if it's because i'm not 0:51:35.320 --> 0:51:37.200 commit like I'm too embarrassed, like I don't know what 0:51:37.280 --> 0:51:39.600 comes over me, but like I can't commit and I 0:51:39.680 --> 0:51:42.960 cannot do it, and I flop, I flop, but an 0:51:43.040 --> 0:51:43.960 accent impression. 0:51:44.040 --> 0:51:46.080 It just never sounds the way I. 0:51:46.120 --> 0:51:48.319 Want to send you an old web series I did 0:51:48.400 --> 0:51:50.480 where I was a Russian stripper. 0:51:50.960 --> 0:51:54.960 Oh, I think everyone listening would like to see that 0:51:55.080 --> 0:51:57.960 as well. Maybe that's the Instagram the way. 0:51:57.880 --> 0:52:00.239 To publish it. So I'm on the second life. 0:52:00.320 --> 0:52:04.440 So the only iced tea sweatshirt just says Detective Fin. 0:52:04.400 --> 0:52:07.920 Tutuola real street Justice. So that's it. 0:52:08.080 --> 0:52:12.960 Okay, okay, they're not obviously getting the nuances of Finns, 0:52:13.800 --> 0:52:17.040 of Finn's vocabulary and catchphrases. 0:52:17.320 --> 0:52:17.919 Oh my god. 0:52:18.000 --> 0:52:20.279 Wait, they have flip flops that say done done on 0:52:20.400 --> 0:52:24.800 each flop. That's kind of cute. That's really fun like slides, No, 0:52:25.000 --> 0:52:29.720 like flip flops. Oh like on the deal the gods 0:52:29.920 --> 0:52:34.839 on the foot. All right, so we're back. We're dye 0:52:35.360 --> 0:52:40.359 like to power saw someone's face off, Like that is sick. 0:52:40.920 --> 0:52:42.920 That is a level of sick my brain, Like I 0:52:43.080 --> 0:52:46.279 can't even fathom. Acid is more It seems more chill 0:52:46.600 --> 0:52:53.360 than power sawing. Standing a face off horrible, horrid, and 0:52:53.480 --> 0:52:56.520 this guy looks scary. I mean it is scary. And 0:52:56.680 --> 0:52:58.719 this will also reminds me of Orange is a New Black, 0:52:58.840 --> 0:53:02.600 like with Red you know, yes, yes, yes, Red was 0:53:03.560 --> 0:53:08.040 in too deep. So this guy is like, you don't 0:53:08.040 --> 0:53:10.279 get it. This guy's full Russian mob. If I talk 0:53:10.360 --> 0:53:12.520 to you, he'll kill my family, my friends, my dog. 0:53:12.640 --> 0:53:14.400 And they're like, all right, cool, no problem, We're just 0:53:14.440 --> 0:53:17.000 going to release you right back onto the boardwalk where 0:53:17.040 --> 0:53:20.040 everybody saw your ass get arrested. And he's like, oh 0:53:20.120 --> 0:53:22.520 my god, you're right. And they're like, you help us, 0:53:22.600 --> 0:53:24.520 We'll help you, and he's like, okay. 0:53:24.600 --> 0:53:28.080 The guy's name is Leev Bodrov aka the Butcher, not 0:53:28.200 --> 0:53:32.920 a great nickname. He's wanted on multiple charges of murder, prostitution, racketeering. 0:53:33.239 --> 0:53:35.719 He was doing time in a gulag in Siberia in 0:53:35.760 --> 0:53:37.560 the nineties, but he escaped and he's been on the 0:53:37.640 --> 0:53:41.600 run ever since. Indre Pol says four other murders in Moscow, Johannesburg, 0:53:41.640 --> 0:53:43.600 Vancouver and Munich all fit this mo o. 0:53:44.040 --> 0:53:47.320 And how is he traveling by boat? You don't have 0:53:47.320 --> 0:53:49.239 a passport, how was he getting all? Probably has a 0:53:49.239 --> 0:53:51.080 fake passport and. 0:53:51.200 --> 0:53:55.239 To escape a gulag like fuck man, Yeah, like, how 0:53:55.320 --> 0:53:59.319 did you get through Siberia to fucking back to like civilization? 0:53:59.600 --> 0:54:02.840 You know, it's so scary, it's really terrifying. 0:54:04.000 --> 0:54:04.399 They said. 0:54:04.520 --> 0:54:08.279 In each of these four international murders, the victim was 0:54:08.360 --> 0:54:12.080 found faceless, toothless, fingertipless, no way to trace them, and 0:54:12.200 --> 0:54:15.800 they all had this same mother forgive me tattoo. And 0:54:15.880 --> 0:54:18.520 then they realize, oh, this guy brands them so that 0:54:18.640 --> 0:54:21.719 the mark will know that his arena is dead. So 0:54:21.920 --> 0:54:25.040 now top of ac three live enters this diner and 0:54:25.120 --> 0:54:28.760 she's meeting Daniel, the you know, the fiance of our victim, 0:54:29.040 --> 0:54:31.640 and he's got a cap on. He seems kg and paranoid. 0:54:31.920 --> 0:54:34.000 He says he couldn't risk going to the precinct. He 0:54:34.080 --> 0:54:36.440 did his own search online and he found one of 0:54:36.560 --> 0:54:41.120 my favorite SVU websites. In the SVU canon of horrible 0:54:41.160 --> 0:54:42.960 websites that they make, this one actually is one of 0:54:43.000 --> 0:54:45.200 the looks like one of the best. He finds the 0:54:45.239 --> 0:54:49.000 website russianswans dot com and he finds a profile for 0:54:49.400 --> 0:54:52.360 a woman named Irene and he goes, it's a different 0:54:52.440 --> 0:54:55.640 haircut and a different color, but that's Lena and he goes, 0:54:56.280 --> 0:54:58.200 she's alive and lives like, you don't know when this 0:54:58.280 --> 0:54:58.839 picture was taken. 0:54:58.920 --> 0:54:59.640 He goes, yes, I do. 0:55:00.040 --> 0:55:02.759 Necklace she's wearing in the picture is a necklace I 0:55:02.920 --> 0:55:04.560 gave her at our engagement party. 0:55:05.000 --> 0:55:06.640 So she disappeared the next day. 0:55:06.719 --> 0:55:09.480 So this is a very recent photo that she's dyed 0:55:09.520 --> 0:55:11.440 her hair and already put up a new profile. They 0:55:11.480 --> 0:55:14.239 don't let they don't let a second go by before 0:55:14.280 --> 0:55:16.680 they get her back up on these sites. He knows 0:55:16.760 --> 0:55:19.799 he's been played. They faked everything, and lives like, yeah, 0:55:19.880 --> 0:55:22.439 but we still have a body, so like somebody did die, 0:55:22.560 --> 0:55:26.600 even though your filance might still be alive. So liv goes, 0:55:26.640 --> 0:55:28.240 how do you set up a date on a website 0:55:28.320 --> 0:55:31.000 like this? Cut to tomorrow and Kragan in a walk 0:55:31.040 --> 0:55:33.720 and talk with the heiress to the Cabot Cheese umpire 0:55:33.880 --> 0:55:37.239 Alexandra Cabot. I wish she was, but she's not. They're 0:55:37.280 --> 0:55:40.200 pitching her their idea to set up an undercover detective 0:55:40.239 --> 0:55:41.919 on a date with Irene slash Lena. 0:55:42.280 --> 0:55:45.000 It needs to be her type, older, lonely, with money. 0:55:45.280 --> 0:55:48.040 They need the warrant quickly, and alex is like, cool, 0:55:48.080 --> 0:55:50.520 I'll see if there's any old lonelies that fit your profile, 0:55:50.600 --> 0:55:52.719 and Patty Craigan is like, reporting for duty. 0:55:52.840 --> 0:55:53.640 Put me in coach. 0:55:54.040 --> 0:55:56.520 He goes, I'm gonna take it, and she says when 0:55:56.600 --> 0:55:58.360 was the last time you were undercover? He goes, probably 0:55:58.400 --> 0:56:00.719 before you and Tomorrow were even born, and it's like 0:56:00.760 --> 0:56:05.200 you're not that old, Craigan. And Cabot's like, remember, it's tempting, 0:56:05.280 --> 0:56:07.520 but you cannot fuck the suspect. It will undermine your 0:56:07.560 --> 0:56:10.759 credibility at trial, and it's like it's it's just weird 0:56:10.800 --> 0:56:13.000 the way she says that to him, like, tis Craigan, 0:56:13.040 --> 0:56:14.799 I know you're a horny old guy, but you can't 0:56:14.800 --> 0:56:17.440 fuck these girls. And Craigan's like, okay, Alex, I'll try 0:56:17.480 --> 0:56:20.759 to control myself. At the precinct, they set up a 0:56:20.800 --> 0:56:23.920 computer where Craigan can DM with Irene. They're trying to 0:56:23.960 --> 0:56:25.759 give him tips like he hasn't been doing this since 0:56:25.800 --> 0:56:28.040 the fucking dawn of time, and he's like, I got it. 0:56:28.520 --> 0:56:30.800 So Finn makes a crack that Craigan actually has a 0:56:30.840 --> 0:56:33.040 fat bank account because he's sure a shit ain't buying 0:56:33.120 --> 0:56:36.600 any new clothes, and Craigan's like, thanks for the help, Dix. 0:56:36.640 --> 0:56:38.800 I gotta go get ready for my cyber date, and 0:56:39.600 --> 0:56:42.160 Finn goes, knock it out, Killa and I love that, 0:56:42.280 --> 0:56:45.080 and Craigan goes, I heard that, and it's They're having 0:56:45.120 --> 0:56:48.680 a cute friendship day at the precinct. At the Duchess 0:56:48.760 --> 0:56:51.680 Hotel in Midtown, Craigan is at the bar Rollin's is 0:56:51.800 --> 0:56:54.359 undercover as a slut. She's like leaning over at the bar, 0:56:54.760 --> 0:56:58.239 drinking a flirty face. She's telling Craigan like, remember the 0:56:58.280 --> 0:56:59.920 goal is get her up to your room. And she's like, 0:57:00.080 --> 0:57:02.800 you'll do fine, you look great, and he's like that. 0:57:02.880 --> 0:57:05.680 It's like she's relentless, like she just has to flirt. 0:57:05.760 --> 0:57:07.560 And it's like but I do think that gave Craigan 0:57:07.600 --> 0:57:09.319 a little boost, you know. And Betti was like, okay, 0:57:09.400 --> 0:57:12.600 Roland says, I look hot. Irene walks up and we 0:57:12.680 --> 0:57:15.160 find out that Craigan is undercover as someone named Michael. 0:57:15.719 --> 0:57:21.160 And this actress that plays Irene slash Lena is Isabella 0:57:21.280 --> 0:57:24.920 Miko and she's actually Polish and she's been in a 0:57:24.960 --> 0:57:27.439 lot of stuff and other Dick Wolf stuff like Chicago Fire, 0:57:27.440 --> 0:57:29.680 I think, but she was in Coyote Ugly Are Is 0:57:29.720 --> 0:57:30.880 that a movie that means anything to you. 0:57:31.320 --> 0:57:34.479 Yeah, I watched it and the song Lehne rhymes yes, 0:57:34.720 --> 0:57:35.640 I love that. 0:57:35.760 --> 0:57:37.919 And I think she's in the video for camp Bite 0:57:37.920 --> 0:57:40.640 the Moonlight, because I think the video is part of 0:57:40.680 --> 0:57:40.960 the movie. 0:57:41.040 --> 0:57:44.120 But she's like the hot blonde girl that works at 0:57:44.160 --> 0:57:45.680 the bar. So I love this. 0:57:46.360 --> 0:57:48.400 He tells her how pretty she is. He says, I've 0:57:48.440 --> 0:57:51.120 got a face for radio. She's like, you have kind eyes. 0:57:51.280 --> 0:57:54.160 It's going, it's going great. Just from the jump. Craigan 0:57:54.240 --> 0:57:56.560 has a Club soda, confesses he doesn't drink, and Irene 0:57:56.680 --> 0:57:59.120 is like, wow, new experience is a man who doesn't drink, 0:57:59.160 --> 0:58:02.040 and then she ordered an orange juice. 0:58:03.400 --> 0:58:05.439 It's like, girl, you don't have to have an OJ, 0:58:05.720 --> 0:58:07.920 Like it's not a breakfast date. So I don't know. 0:58:07.960 --> 0:58:09.720 I've never ordered an orangejuice at a bar in my 0:58:09.880 --> 0:58:12.320 entire life. Like I would say, can I have a soda? 0:58:12.440 --> 0:58:14.880 Can I have club soda with cranberry something? This is 0:58:14.960 --> 0:58:17.000 weird an OJ at a nighttime hotel bar. 0:58:17.560 --> 0:58:18.280 So they're chatting. 0:58:18.400 --> 0:58:21.120 He's making up that he works for the children's rights coalition. 0:58:21.640 --> 0:58:23.960 He's saying standing up for victims who have no voice 0:58:24.080 --> 0:58:26.160 is his job. He says he worries about his staff. 0:58:26.200 --> 0:58:28.360 The work takes a toll on them, you know, the 0:58:28.440 --> 0:58:32.480 camera cutstaffin and Benson obviously like his children that are 0:58:32.840 --> 0:58:34.760 traumatized by the day to day work they have to do. 0:58:35.240 --> 0:58:38.120 Finn is staring straight at Kragan during this like he 0:58:38.160 --> 0:58:40.240 has zero chill. He's just at the bar, staring at 0:58:40.280 --> 0:58:43.320 their date. Irene is like, it sounds like you worry 0:58:43.320 --> 0:58:45.280 about the children and you worry about your staff, But 0:58:45.360 --> 0:58:47.960 who worries about you? And he admits he was married, 0:58:48.000 --> 0:58:51.800 but he's a widower and Marge was his wife. He 0:58:51.920 --> 0:58:54.600 lost her a long time ago. They had no children. 0:58:55.360 --> 0:58:57.800 There was a miscarriage. They tried to adopt, but he 0:58:57.920 --> 0:58:59.280 was just too busy all the time. And it's his 0:58:59.320 --> 0:58:59.960 biggest regrets. 0:59:00.200 --> 0:59:03.439 And you can see live can hear what he's saying 0:59:03.520 --> 0:59:05.120 to her and the mic and she might be the 0:59:05.200 --> 0:59:07.640 only one like she's listening to it in in your piece. 0:59:08.000 --> 0:59:10.960 And she goes, you're a man. It's not too late 0:59:11.360 --> 0:59:13.000 be a seventy year old dad. It's fine. 0:59:13.080 --> 0:59:16.120 Robert de Niro's doing it. So now Craigan is like, 0:59:16.360 --> 0:59:19.000 enough of my violins, what's your deal? Sis? And she goes, 0:59:19.080 --> 0:59:20.520 I just want to have fun tonight. I don't really 0:59:20.520 --> 0:59:22.640 want to tell you my SOB story. So they're flirting, 0:59:22.680 --> 0:59:23.680 they're clicking, they're vibing. 0:59:24.120 --> 0:59:24.439 He says. 0:59:24.480 --> 0:59:26.080 One of my favorite lines that he says is one 0:59:26.120 --> 0:59:29.040 of his bartender's old lines, you don't have to go home, 0:59:29.120 --> 0:59:30.840 but you can't stay here. And she goes, I don't 0:59:30.880 --> 0:59:32.360 want to go home, and he's like, I've got a 0:59:32.440 --> 0:59:35.320 room upstairs with a great view of his duke. 0:59:36.040 --> 0:59:38.360 So they go upstairs. 0:59:39.120 --> 0:59:41.560 She kisses him in the hallway and he kind of 0:59:41.680 --> 0:59:44.480 pulls away and he goes, I'm a little old fashion, 0:59:44.640 --> 0:59:47.280 and she's like, but you got a room, and this 0:59:47.440 --> 0:59:50.680 immediately tips her off. She's suspicious. She goes, let's do 0:59:50.760 --> 0:59:53.680 a second date and starts to leave. Craigan like radios 0:59:53.720 --> 0:59:54.240 into his sleep. 0:59:54.360 --> 0:59:54.920 She's on the move. 0:59:55.000 --> 0:59:57.400 She's on the move, Go Go Go, Rollins and fans 0:59:57.440 --> 0:59:59.480 stop her before she can get out of the hallway, 0:59:59.520 --> 1:00:02.360 and she's like, please, you don't understand. You can't arrest me. 1:00:02.440 --> 1:00:03.160 You don't understand. 1:00:03.200 --> 1:00:03.880 You have to help me. 1:00:04.080 --> 1:00:07.240 She's like, please, whoever you are, like looking Craigan straight 1:00:07.280 --> 1:00:09.280 in the face, like our connection is real, help me. 1:00:10.440 --> 1:00:13.280 So Tapa back four. They're in the hotel room, Finn 1:00:13.400 --> 1:00:16.720 is telling Kragan. He's like, don't have a drink, Captain, 1:00:16.800 --> 1:00:19.320 I know that's what you want. And he's like upset 1:00:19.360 --> 1:00:21.280 because he's like at the end, she made me like 1:00:21.400 --> 1:00:23.840 he's really upset that she made him like figured out 1:00:23.880 --> 1:00:27.240 he was a cop. And so next they're in another 1:00:27.280 --> 1:00:30.040 hotel room and they're explaining to Irene, we don't even 1:00:30.120 --> 1:00:30.360 want you. 1:00:30.520 --> 1:00:31.040 It's Leev. 1:00:31.160 --> 1:00:31.440 We want. 1:00:31.520 --> 1:00:33.880 We can relocate you, we can do witness protection, we 1:00:33.960 --> 1:00:36.120 can help you, and she's like, you don't understand. I 1:00:36.200 --> 1:00:38.680 have a daughter and Leev already has her. He's going 1:00:38.760 --> 1:00:40.480 to kill her if he finds out I'm with the police. 1:00:40.720 --> 1:00:43.280 And this is how he controls people. He runs the 1:00:43.320 --> 1:00:46.000 mail order Bride sites here and in Russia, and it's 1:00:46.080 --> 1:00:48.640 just a front for his blackmail operation and for prostitution. 1:00:49.080 --> 1:00:52.000 Liv goes, okay, tell us how the scam works, and 1:00:52.040 --> 1:00:53.760 it's like, I think we all get it. I think 1:00:53.800 --> 1:00:57.120 we all have figured it out. At this point, she goes, okay, 1:00:57.240 --> 1:00:58.920 I meet wealthy men on the site. I make them 1:00:58.920 --> 1:01:00.280 fall in love with me. I tell them about my 1:01:00.400 --> 1:01:02.840 jealous ex and then I get kidnapped and they pay 1:01:02.880 --> 1:01:05.480 a ransom and Leev takes their money, and Finn's like, 1:01:05.680 --> 1:01:08.160 but you forgot about how he kills and disfigures girls 1:01:08.200 --> 1:01:10.280 that are supposed to be you. She goes, at first, 1:01:10.320 --> 1:01:12.280 I didn't know that he was killing the girls. And 1:01:12.360 --> 1:01:15.280 apparently they're like just random sex workers who work for Liev. 1:01:15.360 --> 1:01:17.720 That they're legal, no one, they have no family, no 1:01:17.760 --> 1:01:21.320 one's gonna quote unquote miss them. And so the Russian 1:01:21.360 --> 1:01:23.480 tattoo is his brand, that's why he does that. And 1:01:23.520 --> 1:01:27.000 then the butterfly she had that from before, and Leev 1:01:27.040 --> 1:01:29.320 told her it made her look like it made her special. 1:01:29.920 --> 1:01:32.240 So lives like, well, I guess you are special because 1:01:32.360 --> 1:01:36.520 you live and they die and pretty horrifically. So Irene's like, 1:01:36.640 --> 1:01:38.840 I beg to stop. He won't let me. He says, 1:01:38.920 --> 1:01:39.520 I'm the best. 1:01:39.600 --> 1:01:40.520 He has me trapped. 1:01:40.920 --> 1:01:43.560 He moves my daughter from country to country, so I 1:01:43.640 --> 1:01:45.760 have no idea where she is at any given time. 1:01:46.240 --> 1:01:47.960 Every once in a while he lets me see her 1:01:48.000 --> 1:01:49.840 for a few hours in a safe house, then he 1:01:50.000 --> 1:01:52.439 just takes her away again. She's like, where's my phone, 1:01:52.480 --> 1:01:54.200 I'll show you, and then she shows them the picture 1:01:54.240 --> 1:01:57.520 of her little daughter named Anna. Robins checks on Iread's record. 1:01:57.560 --> 1:01:59.440 She's in the States on an expired work visa but 1:01:59.520 --> 1:02:03.080 has no in Russia, like no criminal record, and she 1:02:03.160 --> 1:02:04.600 does back it up that she has a four year 1:02:04.640 --> 1:02:05.080 old daughter. 1:02:05.560 --> 1:02:06.720 As far as Leev. 1:02:06.560 --> 1:02:10.360 Knows, she's like fucking quote unquote Michael right now, Daddy Craigan, 1:02:10.520 --> 1:02:12.880 So he doesn't yet know that she's been intercepted by 1:02:12.880 --> 1:02:15.160 the police. They go talk to her. They're like, girl, 1:02:15.280 --> 1:02:18.200 you're in big trouble. Help yourself by getting by helping us. 1:02:19.040 --> 1:02:20.959 She's like, I want my daughter back. They're like, okay, 1:02:21.000 --> 1:02:23.120 you gotta tell us everything. You got to testify. She's 1:02:23.200 --> 1:02:25.640 like fuck no, And Craigan's like, all right, well, then 1:02:25.680 --> 1:02:28.520 what would the next step be in our whole encounter tonight? 1:02:28.600 --> 1:02:30.240 And she's like, well, I would call him and tell 1:02:30.280 --> 1:02:31.760 him that I have a big fish on the hook. 1:02:32.200 --> 1:02:33.880 And so they're like, all right, call him and set 1:02:33.920 --> 1:02:36.960 it up. So now cut to the next day. They're 1:02:37.000 --> 1:02:39.440 at the frying Pan, which, excuse me, is one of 1:02:39.520 --> 1:02:41.400 my favorite little places to go to in New York 1:02:41.480 --> 1:02:43.760 and I was just there in July, and it is 1:02:43.840 --> 1:02:46.000 a very random place for this all to go down, 1:02:46.200 --> 1:02:47.680 But I can see why they did it. It's a 1:02:47.760 --> 1:02:51.680 big open space bar that is really close to their studios. 1:02:51.720 --> 1:02:53.600 It's near Chelsea Peers, so it's very close to the 1:02:53.680 --> 1:02:54.400 SPUs studios. 1:02:54.400 --> 1:02:55.360 I bet that's why they're there. 1:02:55.840 --> 1:02:58.760 Everyone is sitting around alone. All the cops are sitting 1:02:58.760 --> 1:03:01.520 at separate tables with like a half drunk beer, just 1:03:01.600 --> 1:03:05.400 by themselves, like no one's even pretending to have any friends. 1:03:05.880 --> 1:03:08.840 And Lena is like talking to Craigan. 1:03:08.880 --> 1:03:11.080 They're at a table pretending to be cozy, and she's like, 1:03:11.160 --> 1:03:12.720 I know you think I'm a dirty liar, but we 1:03:12.840 --> 1:03:14.240 have to look like we want to fuck, So could 1:03:14.280 --> 1:03:16.720 you really smile and get closer to me? And she's like, 1:03:16.800 --> 1:03:18.760 I'm going to kiss you, and she goes in for 1:03:18.880 --> 1:03:20.919 a long kiss and then says thank you for helping 1:03:20.960 --> 1:03:23.680 me get my Anna back. So she's still like trying 1:03:23.720 --> 1:03:27.000 to charm Cragin. They spot leav entering the bar and 1:03:27.080 --> 1:03:27.760 he looks. 1:03:27.640 --> 1:03:30.200 Like, you mean, there is not to be rude, but 1:03:30.400 --> 1:03:33.000 it is just such a psyche of like men where 1:03:33.040 --> 1:03:37.240 it's like Lena doesn't like you, you know, and he's undercover. 1:03:37.440 --> 1:03:39.840 But it's this idea that these do like, of course 1:03:39.920 --> 1:03:43.760 there's a scam, you're on a site to find someone 1:03:43.960 --> 1:03:45.840 that's so hot, Like, what do you think is going 1:03:45.880 --> 1:03:46.280 on here? 1:03:46.720 --> 1:03:49.040 It is confusing, but this. 1:03:49.200 --> 1:03:52.320 Is how they got him in the Carissa episodes, right 1:03:52.440 --> 1:03:56.360 because he felt, really he felt even just having somebody 1:03:56.440 --> 1:03:57.040 to talk to. 1:03:57.320 --> 1:03:59.480 I think he's just been lonely for such a long time. 1:03:59.560 --> 1:04:02.920 And I'm not hating on Kragan. I'm hating on like 1:04:03.360 --> 1:04:05.640 dudes that go into this full faith, like, yeah, I'm 1:04:05.720 --> 1:04:09.400 just gonna get the hottest woman in Russia and she's 1:04:09.440 --> 1:04:12.160 gonna be obsessed with me and happy with our lives. 1:04:12.280 --> 1:04:15.960 And it's like, what is going on in your brain? 1:04:16.440 --> 1:04:19.880 That is you know, because this is my big theory, 1:04:20.000 --> 1:04:23.240 Like when women are not finding a partner or like 1:04:23.280 --> 1:04:25.120 they can't get it together, it's like, what's wrong with me? 1:04:25.960 --> 1:04:27.800 And when men can't get someone, it's like, well, what's 1:04:27.840 --> 1:04:29.600 wrong with the world, what's wrong with all women? 1:04:29.880 --> 1:04:32.720 Yeah, I gotta go mass shoot, you know, and it's 1:04:32.880 --> 1:04:37.240 like it is so wild, Like I just I just 1:04:37.400 --> 1:04:39.200 feel I would be suspicious. 1:04:39.360 --> 1:04:40.840 I'd be like what's going on here? 1:04:41.680 --> 1:04:45.840 Yeah, for these dudes, they're like absolutely someone like Lena 1:04:45.920 --> 1:04:48.439 would want to be with me. Yeah, this makes sense, 1:04:49.280 --> 1:04:52.120 And you know, obviously everyone has a lot to offer 1:04:52.200 --> 1:04:52.920 in different ways. 1:04:53.000 --> 1:04:55.440 It's just like, I don't feel bad for these guys 1:04:55.480 --> 1:04:59.800 that are tricked. I do I do, I do? I do? Well? 1:05:00.000 --> 1:05:02.200 Well, your point gets reiterated, I think at the end. 1:05:02.240 --> 1:05:05.960 Hold on. So this guy walks in Liev. He is 1:05:06.160 --> 1:05:07.360 such a scary motherfucker. 1:05:07.400 --> 1:05:09.680 But he's also wearing a white turtleneck, so it's an 1:05:09.720 --> 1:05:11.120 interesting wardrobe choice. 1:05:11.680 --> 1:05:13.840 And the like. 1:05:15.400 --> 1:05:17.960 The cops around him. He immediately like makes the cops. 1:05:18.000 --> 1:05:20.360 He sees Rowlins, he sees Tomorrow with their half drunk beers, 1:05:20.360 --> 1:05:22.320 and he's like these are cops, Like he can like 1:05:22.440 --> 1:05:24.640 tell immediately cops around him. 1:05:24.680 --> 1:05:26.160 They're like, so there's nowhere to run. 1:05:26.240 --> 1:05:28.760 He shoots at Tomorrow and then Rollin shoots him like 1:05:28.920 --> 1:05:31.080 dead in the chest, and Lena comes running. 1:05:30.840 --> 1:05:33.720 Over like no, no, no, no, no, where's my daughter? 1:05:33.800 --> 1:05:34.200 Where is she? 1:05:34.320 --> 1:05:36.840 Whears Anna, and they're like let go, like he's dead. 1:05:37.160 --> 1:05:40.800 She's devastated. She's like we'll never find her. His soldiers 1:05:40.840 --> 1:05:43.720 will kill her. And then Liev's phone rings in his 1:05:43.880 --> 1:05:46.440 pocket and it's a text in Russian saying where do 1:05:46.520 --> 1:05:50.080 we meet and saying we have Anna. Wow, she's in 1:05:50.160 --> 1:05:53.960 New York. What a great coincidence. So she remembers one 1:05:54.040 --> 1:05:56.840 safe house location in Brighton Beach. So obviously the plan 1:05:57.040 --> 1:06:00.240 is send this this soldier with Anna to this safe 1:06:00.240 --> 1:06:01.480 house and we'll go intercept her. 1:06:02.200 --> 1:06:03.560 At the safe house location. 1:06:03.840 --> 1:06:06.280 The cops and tons of backup invests and like the 1:06:06.360 --> 1:06:09.480 whole gear are moving in on the safe house. Craigan 1:06:09.560 --> 1:06:11.000 is in the back of a car with Lena, like 1:06:11.080 --> 1:06:13.760 a cop car. Tons of shots ring out and they 1:06:13.800 --> 1:06:16.480 say and we hear officer down. So Craigan leaves, Lena 1:06:17.000 --> 1:06:19.800 rushes in. The officer that's down is Finn, but his 1:06:20.200 --> 1:06:24.120 bulletproof vest caught the bullet, so whew, crisis averted. Finn 1:06:24.280 --> 1:06:26.880 is fine. Liv says, I searched the whole house. Room, 1:06:26.960 --> 1:06:29.000 my room, no sign of the kid. We hear more 1:06:29.040 --> 1:06:31.680 shots fired. They go outside and holy shit, the cop 1:06:31.760 --> 1:06:33.640 that was in the driver's seat of the car that 1:06:33.800 --> 1:06:37.080 Lena and Craigan were just in is dead, like shot 1:06:37.160 --> 1:06:37.600 in the head. 1:06:38.000 --> 1:06:40.320 She's gone, and she must have his gun. How did 1:06:40.360 --> 1:06:41.160 she get it from him? 1:06:41.320 --> 1:06:44.760 Like, I don't know, there's no great like maybe they're 1:06:44.760 --> 1:06:45.920 not in one of those cop cars that has the 1:06:46.000 --> 1:06:48.440 great I thought they all did live radios it in 1:06:48.520 --> 1:06:50.760 and then goes, I want this bitch caught now, and 1:06:50.920 --> 1:06:54.560 Live is activated, like it is hilarious. There is a chase. 1:06:54.920 --> 1:06:57.439 Lena's running down all these corridors. They're following her. They're 1:06:57.440 --> 1:07:00.800 in alleys behind the houses, they're following her. Tomorrow's chasing her, 1:07:00.840 --> 1:07:02.640 corners her, but she's trying to climb through a hole 1:07:02.680 --> 1:07:04.960 in the fence. She gets through, but Craigan and Liver 1:07:05.080 --> 1:07:07.560 on the other side they run up on her. She's caught, 1:07:07.600 --> 1:07:09.400 but she has this slide grun on her face and 1:07:09.480 --> 1:07:12.440 she starts staring at Craigan and like smiling as they 1:07:12.480 --> 1:07:14.800 cough her. So you kind of know she's psychoed. But 1:07:14.880 --> 1:07:16.600 it's like, bitch, you're still going to jail. You just 1:07:16.880 --> 1:07:19.480 killed a cop, Like you're going to jail forever. So 1:07:20.200 --> 1:07:23.720 back at the precinct, liv is filling Daniel Carter in 1:07:23.800 --> 1:07:26.560 on the whole scam, and it turns out Lena did 1:07:26.640 --> 1:07:29.439 have a daughter, but the daughter was murdered four years ago. 1:07:30.080 --> 1:07:32.840 Leev killed the killers and so she's been in his 1:07:33.000 --> 1:07:35.360 debt ever since and they work as a team. So 1:07:36.120 --> 1:07:41.080 she took the story of manipulated them. Yeah, So he's like, like, 1:07:41.160 --> 1:07:44.400 you're saying maybe he made her do it, Like, there's 1:07:44.520 --> 1:07:45.680 no way she scammed me. 1:07:45.880 --> 1:07:47.600 This hot lady wants to be with me. 1:07:47.760 --> 1:07:50.520 She's not a killer, like you know, it's like what 1:07:50.600 --> 1:07:54.240 you're talking about. So they're like, bro, she shot a 1:07:54.360 --> 1:07:57.280 twenty two year old police officer at point blank range, 1:07:57.400 --> 1:07:59.920 like and killed him. They're like, maybe Leev brought her 1:08:00.080 --> 1:08:03.120 into the game, but she's fully crossed over. There's another 1:08:03.280 --> 1:08:05.640 side to her, he says. And it's like, you're like 1:08:05.840 --> 1:08:07.200 I felt bad for you at the beginning, but now 1:08:07.240 --> 1:08:10.000 it's like you're being obtuse, like stop, and Craigan's like, 1:08:10.640 --> 1:08:12.600 I believe you. I believe you saw the other side 1:08:12.600 --> 1:08:14.280 because I feel like maybe Craigan's like I kind of 1:08:14.320 --> 1:08:16.439 saw the other side, but it's like she was playing you, 1:08:17.200 --> 1:08:20.040 and so the guy just Craigan going, I believe you. 1:08:20.160 --> 1:08:22.800 The guy goes all right, I'll testify whatever you need, 1:08:23.000 --> 1:08:25.720 Like he pullably just drops it that she might still 1:08:25.760 --> 1:08:27.800 be like in love with him and be innocent, and 1:08:27.920 --> 1:08:30.960 he leaves and Craigan stops live before she walks out 1:08:30.960 --> 1:08:33.840 of the office and goes, hey, so about all that 1:08:33.920 --> 1:08:36.439 stuff I said on the wire, like about you know, 1:08:36.520 --> 1:08:38.280 he doesn't say this but you know he's referring to 1:08:38.360 --> 1:08:40.560 like all this stuff about the miscarriage, the loneliness, the 1:08:40.640 --> 1:08:44.400 actual the widow. She goes what stuff and then he 1:08:44.479 --> 1:08:48.639 goes okay, and she just walks out and it ends 1:08:48.720 --> 1:08:51.519 on like a slow zoom out of Craigan just in 1:08:51.600 --> 1:08:52.639 his office, all alone. 1:08:53.600 --> 1:08:55.720 And that's Dick wolf Baby. Yeah. 1:08:55.760 --> 1:08:59.280 A lot of twists and turns. Wow, a lot of 1:08:59.320 --> 1:09:00.479 wild horror. 1:09:00.840 --> 1:09:06.639 And what a perfect casting of that bald many scary. 1:09:06.760 --> 1:09:08.600 He doesn't really work much, but I feel like he 1:09:08.640 --> 1:09:10.920 could have been in like every major motion picture is 1:09:11.040 --> 1:09:16.280 just like Hired Gun number four. Yeah, terrifying. Oh god, 1:09:16.360 --> 1:09:17.479 his daughter's already dead. 1:09:17.560 --> 1:09:18.280 This is wild. 1:09:18.640 --> 1:09:23.000 Okay, Well listen to our ads and we're gonna do 1:09:23.240 --> 1:09:42.920 some crime stuff, all right, great, bye, Okay, so this 1:09:43.080 --> 1:09:45.040 is based on like a crime, but I guess I'm 1:09:45.040 --> 1:09:48.120 just gonna touch on like bride scams, just a real quick, 1:09:48.200 --> 1:09:52.840 little i'm tidbit. So they're called the Boris and Natasha scams. 1:09:53.560 --> 1:09:57.160 So I really am interesting. I love that, And so 1:09:57.360 --> 1:10:00.160 like a quick Google, like the big letter definition right 1:10:00.240 --> 1:10:03.479 on Google is when a lonely American man believes he 1:10:03.520 --> 1:10:06.720 has found a beautiful woman to marry, except Natasha ends 1:10:06.840 --> 1:10:09.120 up being a Boris lol. 1:10:09.360 --> 1:10:10.439 So that's the scam. 1:10:11.520 --> 1:10:14.599 And then they're also known as romance scams, which seems 1:10:14.640 --> 1:10:17.800 less offensive than Boris and Natasha. It's very Alexia from 1:10:17.840 --> 1:10:20.560 Miami Housewives. I don't know if you remember when she 1:10:20.680 --> 1:10:23.960 called all Russian women prostitutes and then double down and 1:10:24.040 --> 1:10:25.799 then it is one of the only things she regrets 1:10:25.840 --> 1:10:28.640 on Watch What Happens a lot. But I bet in 1:10:28.720 --> 1:10:30.920 the office of the FBI they're still like, we got 1:10:31.000 --> 1:10:32.400 another Boris and Natasha. 1:10:32.560 --> 1:10:32.800 Okay. 1:10:33.120 --> 1:10:36.320 So a romance scam, I'm sure we all know, is 1:10:36.360 --> 1:10:38.840 when you meet someone special on a dating site or app. 1:10:39.200 --> 1:10:41.479 They claim it's true love, but they live far away, 1:10:41.640 --> 1:10:43.720 and then they start asking you for money for like 1:10:43.800 --> 1:10:46.560 a plane ticket or you know, an emergency surgery or 1:10:46.600 --> 1:10:50.160 whatever it is. And we're living in twenty twenty three, 1:10:50.360 --> 1:10:53.080 we understand this concept. TLC has made a full schedule 1:10:53.280 --> 1:10:56.559 on this concept, so you know, I think it's more 1:10:57.000 --> 1:11:00.640 in the zeitgeist now than ever, like with catfish. The 1:11:00.760 --> 1:11:04.439 Federal Trade Commission states that in twenty twenty one, five 1:11:04.560 --> 1:11:07.799 hundred and forty seven million dollars in losses to romance 1:11:07.840 --> 1:11:12.760 scams and in twenty twenty two, nearly seventy thousand people 1:11:12.880 --> 1:11:14.160 reported a romance scam. 1:11:15.240 --> 1:11:17.120 So that's a lot. 1:11:18.560 --> 1:11:21.960 Yeah, Like I just watched The Tinder Swindler a couple 1:11:22.160 --> 1:11:27.920 of months ago, and it like, you know, you think 1:11:27.960 --> 1:11:30.479 it's like they're scamming like idiots. Sometimes it's just like 1:11:30.760 --> 1:11:33.760 Gal's looking for love. You know, Yes, that was a guy. 1:11:33.960 --> 1:11:35.800 That was a guy doing the scamming. Yeah, but the 1:11:35.880 --> 1:11:40.519 Tindler Swindler saw these people in person. They did meet 1:11:40.640 --> 1:11:42.639 up and then then he loved. 1:11:42.880 --> 1:11:44.920 Then he moved away because he had like you know, 1:11:45.040 --> 1:11:47.960 special ops jobs or something, or he was so rich 1:11:48.000 --> 1:11:48.840 and had to hide out. 1:11:49.280 --> 1:11:51.400 But these is like you don't even see these people. 1:11:52.479 --> 1:11:54.559 You don't even know. It's just like a fucking photo. 1:11:55.240 --> 1:11:57.679 They also ask for money in like really fast ways, 1:11:58.600 --> 1:12:00.559 so like that you can that you can't get back. 1:12:00.640 --> 1:12:02.200 So it's been gift cards. 1:12:02.280 --> 1:12:05.000 There's been a surge of gift cards, and then it's 1:12:05.040 --> 1:12:09.840 like Western Union type things, money wires, ask for pin codes, 1:12:09.880 --> 1:12:13.320 money transfer apps, and of course crypto is a part 1:12:13.360 --> 1:12:15.920 of all of this. But it has to they you know, 1:12:16.040 --> 1:12:18.479 they need the money fast and there's no way you 1:12:18.520 --> 1:12:22.080 can get it back. The Trade Commission's advice is never 1:12:22.160 --> 1:12:24.680 send money or gifts to a sweetheart you haven't met 1:12:24.720 --> 1:12:25.160 in person. 1:12:26.200 --> 1:12:27.000 Did everyone get that? 1:12:27.520 --> 1:12:31.080 And once these boris types get the money, they disappear 1:12:31.160 --> 1:12:34.120 and all communication and it leaves the victims broken hearted 1:12:34.320 --> 1:12:38.280 and broke. So that is what happens. At least, you know, 1:12:38.360 --> 1:12:40.360 our dude Daniel get to fuck for a little bit, 1:12:40.640 --> 1:12:45.680 all right. So this whole case is everyone's name is 1:12:45.760 --> 1:12:49.360 so hard, Okay. So this happened in LA and the 1:12:49.520 --> 1:12:52.280 LA area, so it's a hometown crime for us. So 1:12:53.600 --> 1:12:57.439 one guy is Jurijus Kadamovas and the other guy is 1:12:57.720 --> 1:13:02.600 Yuri Mkhale and so that's it. So Katamos is a 1:13:02.800 --> 1:13:07.439 they're both Soviet, but he is Lithuanian, a Lithuanian immigrant, 1:13:07.439 --> 1:13:10.280 and he was living in Sherman Oaks and Mikhale is 1:13:10.479 --> 1:13:13.800 Russian and he was living in Encino. So these two 1:13:13.880 --> 1:13:17.080 guys one YouTube video because I was trying to find 1:13:17.160 --> 1:13:19.720 videos where they would say their names out loud and 1:13:20.040 --> 1:13:24.320 I couldn't. But this year was Soviet serial killers who 1:13:24.439 --> 1:13:25.880 terrorized Los Angeles. 1:13:26.600 --> 1:13:28.760 That was like the name of the video. Pretty wild. 1:13:29.000 --> 1:13:32.519 So these two they abducted, held hostage and killed five 1:13:32.600 --> 1:13:34.880 people between two thousand and one and two thousand and two. 1:13:35.600 --> 1:13:39.880 Their victims were Meyer Muscatl fifty eight years old, Nick 1:13:40.760 --> 1:13:46.400 Karabadze twenty nine, Alexander Umanski thirty five, Rita Peckler thirty nine, 1:13:46.840 --> 1:13:51.080 and George Safiav thirty seven. So they targeted Russian immigrants 1:13:51.160 --> 1:13:54.080 and dumped their bodies in a reservoir outside of Yosemite 1:13:54.280 --> 1:13:58.000 National Park in like a remote reservoir. They would put 1:13:58.040 --> 1:14:01.439 weights onto the bodies before dumping them so they would sink. 1:14:01.920 --> 1:14:05.439 These guys were like they're described as San Fernando Valley 1:14:05.479 --> 1:14:10.080 businessmen in their forties, and they cooked up this play 1:14:10.120 --> 1:14:13.360 and this murder plot while they were operating an aquarium 1:14:13.520 --> 1:14:19.000 store on Ventura Boulevard, which I don't know, like aquariums 1:14:19.080 --> 1:14:21.800 usually calmed me down, So I don't know why that's 1:14:21.920 --> 1:14:25.080 the place they got hopped up to do these vicious crimes. 1:14:25.200 --> 1:14:29.479 But they would lure their victims with offers of business 1:14:29.600 --> 1:14:32.120 deals and then demand money from their families and then 1:14:32.160 --> 1:14:32.760 strangle them. 1:14:33.439 --> 1:14:36.360 And so they went after people that would have some money. 1:14:36.720 --> 1:14:40.000 There was always duct tape, zip ties, sedative drugs, and 1:14:40.120 --> 1:14:43.920 the death was always by strangling After the killings, they 1:14:44.000 --> 1:14:46.400 loaded the bodies into their mini van and drove five 1:14:46.479 --> 1:14:50.120 hours north to like the new Maloney's reservoir, and that's 1:14:50.120 --> 1:14:52.840 where they would dump the bodies. Muscatel was a real 1:14:52.960 --> 1:14:55.680 estate developer, that is one of the victims, and he 1:14:55.720 --> 1:14:58.200 went to mchaeale's and Sino home expecting to discuss a 1:14:58.280 --> 1:15:01.960 real estate deal. That's the thing, It's like, this isn't 1:15:02.479 --> 1:15:04.360 this isn't a love scam. It isn't like, come on 1:15:04.560 --> 1:15:09.400 do this. It is really like they catered the meetings 1:15:09.960 --> 1:15:14.240 to these people's businesses, and so it was like, oh, 1:15:14.320 --> 1:15:16.600 we want to talk about this, and I could just 1:15:16.680 --> 1:15:19.320 see any person being like, oh great, Like if you're 1:15:19.320 --> 1:15:22.080 a freelancer or you're a real estate like, I could 1:15:22.160 --> 1:15:23.800 just see being like, oh, of course, I'm going to 1:15:23.840 --> 1:15:26.640 stop by this house and let's talk. But yeah, So 1:15:27.160 --> 1:15:29.760 this guy showed up to the house expecting to talk 1:15:29.840 --> 1:15:32.720 real estate and said he was beaten bound and then 1:15:32.800 --> 1:15:36.520 killed when the abductors realized he wasn't that rich. Safeyev 1:15:36.760 --> 1:15:39.519 disappeared January twentieth, two thousand and two, from his Beverly 1:15:39.560 --> 1:15:44.040 Hills office. During his disappearance, his business manager received ransom 1:15:44.080 --> 1:15:47.200 calls instructing them to transfer nearly one million dollars. And 1:15:47.280 --> 1:15:50.360 this is according to the US Attorney's Office as reported 1:15:50.400 --> 1:15:54.520 by CNN. And Umanski was kidnapped when he met Kadamoves 1:15:54.680 --> 1:15:57.640 to sell him equipment for his car in December. Like 1:15:57.720 --> 1:15:59.439 let's what I mean, Like all of these are so 1:15:59.600 --> 1:16:02.960 tailor made for the person. Yeah, So that was December thirteenth, 1:16:03.000 --> 1:16:05.599 and then the next day his father, Reuven I think 1:16:05.640 --> 1:16:09.120 it's ruvain probably. So the next day his father went 1:16:09.160 --> 1:16:12.000 to the office and discovered three identical ransom notes that 1:16:12.040 --> 1:16:14.880 were faxed demanding two hundred and thirty four thousand, six 1:16:15.040 --> 1:16:16.040 hundred and twenty eight dollars. 1:16:16.760 --> 1:16:17.639 Why is that random? 1:16:18.280 --> 1:16:18.920 Specific? 1:16:20.680 --> 1:16:23.280 What maybe they thought that maybe they thought in a 1:16:23.360 --> 1:16:26.240 weird way that banks like wouldn't flag it if it's 1:16:26.320 --> 1:16:28.360 not like a round number, like it's not two hundred 1:16:28.360 --> 1:16:30.759 and fifty thousand dollars, but like that is really random. 1:16:31.040 --> 1:16:32.840 So random, that's all I can think of. 1:16:33.680 --> 1:16:36.519 The victim's brother, Michael, also received the same note at 1:16:36.600 --> 1:16:39.479 his home. Facts and it's early two thousands, where Facts 1:16:39.600 --> 1:16:40.320 is still a thout. 1:16:40.479 --> 1:16:42.960 You're still faxing they were because. 1:16:42.800 --> 1:16:45.760 I was working in data entry I remember, okay, so, 1:16:48.000 --> 1:16:50.040 and that was in San Francisco that same day, and 1:16:50.080 --> 1:16:53.000 the FBI said that all four faxes were sent from Russia, 1:16:53.479 --> 1:16:56.840 though they could not pinpoint the location. So four days later, 1:16:56.960 --> 1:16:59.799 his family paid ninety thousand dollars in ransom by wiring 1:16:59.840 --> 1:17:01.519 them money from a bank in New York to a 1:17:01.600 --> 1:17:04.400 branch of that same bank in Dubai. And then that 1:17:04.520 --> 1:17:07.600 same day he called his brother to ask whether the 1:17:07.720 --> 1:17:09.760 money had been sent, and it was the last time 1:17:09.800 --> 1:17:11.840 the family heard from him, So they did get to 1:17:11.920 --> 1:17:13.840 speak to the brother one last time. 1:17:14.600 --> 1:17:16.759 And then this is according to the FBI. 1:17:17.120 --> 1:17:20.160 And then December twenty seventh, after being a hell, told 1:17:20.200 --> 1:17:22.240 that they wouldn't hear from Mumanski till they got the 1:17:22.320 --> 1:17:25.400 full ransom they wired about like one hundred and forty 1:17:25.439 --> 1:17:29.040 five thousand dollars. Peckler was a financial consultant and she 1:17:29.240 --> 1:17:32.040 was targeted because her captors thought she could lead them 1:17:32.080 --> 1:17:38.439 to wealthy clients. And so Safeyev and Carbodze they were 1:17:38.560 --> 1:17:41.400 lured both to the aquarium store to talk about a 1:17:41.520 --> 1:17:46.680 film production deal. You know, like I said, very specific, 1:17:46.880 --> 1:17:49.400 they got caught. So that's the information that I was 1:17:49.439 --> 1:17:52.400 able to get on the victims, so back to the 1:17:52.479 --> 1:17:55.479 perpetrators of the crime. They got caught because authorities traced 1:17:55.479 --> 1:17:59.200 an electronic ransom payment to them. The wire transfer showed 1:17:59.200 --> 1:18:02.960 the money being sent to an account named Designed water Worlds, Inc. 1:18:03.760 --> 1:18:06.400 And earlier that year, both of the killers each applied 1:18:06.479 --> 1:18:09.880 for ten million dollar life insurance policies and identified themselves 1:18:09.920 --> 1:18:12.599 as co owners of the Designed water World. 1:18:13.479 --> 1:18:13.719 Wow. 1:18:14.479 --> 1:18:18.120 Yeah, so you're gonna make a mistake. And after their 1:18:18.200 --> 1:18:20.240 arrest in two thousand and two, these guys devised a 1:18:20.280 --> 1:18:23.000 plan to escape using a tunnel out of their cells. 1:18:23.320 --> 1:18:25.040 But also, like, how do you put them in the 1:18:25.120 --> 1:18:27.439 same prison, like near each other, in the same cells, 1:18:27.760 --> 1:18:31.920 Like they were clearly not good together. They were gonna 1:18:31.960 --> 1:18:35.080 like break fences and the motorcycles would be waiting for them. 1:18:35.320 --> 1:18:38.720 That obviously did not happen, but they were charged. They 1:18:38.760 --> 1:18:42.639 were charged for escape, like escape planning. So their defense 1:18:42.680 --> 1:18:46.200 attorneys argue that they're not killers and that underlings did 1:18:46.240 --> 1:18:50.200 the killing, and those underlings just named these guys to 1:18:50.360 --> 1:18:54.439 lighten their sentence in the deals and prosecutors are just like, yeah, 1:18:54.439 --> 1:18:57.519 you would still be in trouble. It's such a funny 1:18:57.600 --> 1:19:00.120 defense to be like, no, no, we didn't kill. We 1:19:00.200 --> 1:19:03.600 made the underlings kill. Like you're still just like the 1:19:03.680 --> 1:19:06.680 same with Charles Manson, he still was in jail for 1:19:06.720 --> 1:19:09.920 his whole life. Yeah, so you know, I guess you 1:19:09.960 --> 1:19:11.960 got to pull up straws when you're trying to defend 1:19:12.120 --> 1:19:13.680 when all the evidence is right there. 1:19:13.760 --> 1:19:14.960 So prosecutors are like. 1:19:15.040 --> 1:19:17.680 Yeah, you two men led the group whose goal was 1:19:17.760 --> 1:19:20.920 to mass the fortune by kidnapping affluent business people. You're 1:19:20.960 --> 1:19:23.840 not off the hook. According to the prosecution, the men 1:19:23.960 --> 1:19:25.880 got a little more than a million dollars. I think 1:19:25.880 --> 1:19:27.680 it was like one point two million in total, so 1:19:27.840 --> 1:19:29.439 not very much or a lot. I mean, it's a 1:19:29.479 --> 1:19:32.400 lot of money, but like not for five for killing 1:19:32.520 --> 1:19:33.400 five people. 1:19:33.760 --> 1:19:36.960 Yeah, their goal was to get fifty million. 1:19:37.280 --> 1:19:40.599 So and they end quote there they have enough bodies 1:19:40.680 --> 1:19:43.439 to discard that they were in quote were stacked on 1:19:43.560 --> 1:19:46.599 top of each other and that was The Orange County 1:19:46.640 --> 1:19:51.360 Register reported that so these were like classic Russian mob vibes. 1:19:51.400 --> 1:19:54.160 I feel of like no mercy, no soul, no like 1:19:55.600 --> 1:19:59.479 no nothing like they wanted to fully I bet yeah, 1:20:00.600 --> 1:20:02.639 if they were alive, we know what jobs they would 1:20:02.680 --> 1:20:06.040 be doing in the thirties and forties. Okay, so like 1:20:06.240 --> 1:20:08.600 they wanted a pit of people in the reservoir, so 1:20:08.760 --> 1:20:11.559 many dead that it would come up top like creepy. 1:20:12.560 --> 1:20:15.439 The victims were killed also regardless of whether the Ransoms 1:20:15.479 --> 1:20:19.040 were paid or not, and that's really similar to the episode. 1:20:19.560 --> 1:20:22.479 So they had no intention of leaving anybody alive, ever, 1:20:22.760 --> 1:20:25.519 with money or not. In two thousand and seven, a 1:20:25.600 --> 1:20:29.840 federal jury convicted them of hostage taking resulting in death 1:20:30.240 --> 1:20:32.960 and many other charges, and then the judge sentenced them 1:20:33.000 --> 1:20:36.320 to death five years after the authorities began finding the bodies. 1:20:36.960 --> 1:20:43.400 The judge another wild name, Dick Ran Tevercian. I don't know. 1:20:43.400 --> 1:20:44.800 I thought you would giggle, Dick Ran. 1:20:44.960 --> 1:20:48.639 Dick Ran is a crazy yeah, Dick Ron to Vrisian. Yeah, 1:20:49.720 --> 1:20:53.200 so I was just it was just not funny. But 1:20:53.360 --> 1:20:56.040 for me it was like, Okay, the killers have names 1:20:56.040 --> 1:20:58.280 that are hard. The victims and you know, have hard 1:20:58.400 --> 1:21:01.120 names to pronounce. And now the judge is Dick Ran, 1:21:01.400 --> 1:21:04.920 like what is this case? So the judge said that 1:21:04.960 --> 1:21:08.560 these perpetrators showed no mercy, and that's according to the 1:21:08.640 --> 1:21:12.599 Orange County Register. And then Los Angeles Daily News reported 1:21:12.680 --> 1:21:16.040 that a prosecutor from the US Attorney's Office Susan DeWitt 1:21:16.120 --> 1:21:19.080 said that the defendants killed them in cold blood, with 1:21:19.240 --> 1:21:23.120 cold blood a deliberation. The motive was money. Abducting for 1:21:23.280 --> 1:21:26.639 ransom was their business. Like it wasn't a side hustle, 1:21:26.800 --> 1:21:32.000 it was their main hustle. The aquariums was the fake front. Yeah, 1:21:32.479 --> 1:21:35.040 their defense attorney tried to portray them as hard working 1:21:35.120 --> 1:21:38.160 immigrants who just wanted to open a boutique aquariums store 1:21:38.240 --> 1:21:44.479 in Ventura Boulevard. The jury deliberated for less than ten hours. 1:21:45.000 --> 1:21:49.200 They heard testimony, including from three co conspirators who earlier 1:21:49.280 --> 1:21:52.719 pled guilty. So these are like the underlings and stuff, 1:21:52.760 --> 1:21:54.960 and they all pled guilty to the roles in the scheme. 1:21:55.400 --> 1:21:58.320 One of the guys is Petro Kroi lov And he 1:21:58.439 --> 1:22:01.160 was Ukrainian and at at thirty five years old at 1:22:01.200 --> 1:22:04.080 the time he got sentenced to four consecutive life terms. 1:22:04.800 --> 1:22:05.320 In court, he. 1:22:05.400 --> 1:22:08.599 Argued that Mikhail and Kasamovas threatened to harm his family 1:22:08.680 --> 1:22:10.640 if he did not help them with the kidnapping and 1:22:10.760 --> 1:22:13.800 ransomplot but he was found guilty as hell anyways, Like 1:22:13.840 --> 1:22:17.120 it didn't really help, and especially since one of the victims, Umanski, 1:22:17.720 --> 1:22:20.920 was his former boss at a stereo shop with whom 1:22:20.960 --> 1:22:24.840 he had a falling out with after being fired, but 1:22:25.120 --> 1:22:27.840 he escaped the denth penalty, not like his friends, and 1:22:27.960 --> 1:22:30.519 so a total of six men were brought up on charges. 1:22:31.160 --> 1:22:34.840 The guys displayed no emotion while the guilty verdict was read. However, 1:22:34.920 --> 1:22:37.400 two relatives of the victims burst into tears and then 1:22:37.439 --> 1:22:41.639 left the courtroom immediately after. And then May two thousand 1:22:41.640 --> 1:22:44.280 and nine, a US appeals court upheld the convictions and 1:22:44.320 --> 1:22:46.600 death sentences of the two men. And we do have 1:22:46.680 --> 1:22:48.920 some twenty twenty three updates. I think they're all still 1:22:49.040 --> 1:22:52.680 like I couldn't so basically. On January of this year 1:22:52.880 --> 1:22:56.600 January twelfth, twenty twenty three, the US District Court for 1:22:56.720 --> 1:23:00.320 the Southern District of Indiana on behalf of Kasamova and 1:23:00.439 --> 1:23:01.800 a bunch of inmates. 1:23:01.479 --> 1:23:02.559 Thirty seven other inmates. 1:23:02.960 --> 1:23:06.600 They're doing a class action lawsuit in terry Hate, Indiana. 1:23:07.240 --> 1:23:10.360 They say that it is isolating and their standards fall 1:23:10.439 --> 1:23:14.040 below the minimum standard prescribed by international human rights treaties 1:23:14.560 --> 1:23:17.800 for the treatment of prisoners and violates the US constitutional 1:23:17.920 --> 1:23:22.320 prohibition against cruel and unusual punishment. This lawsuit has been 1:23:22.320 --> 1:23:25.080 authored by lawyers from the ACLU of Indiana and the 1:23:25.160 --> 1:23:28.080 national law firm with a bunch of last names and 1:23:28.320 --> 1:23:30.760 no updates on how that lawsuit's going. And it's like 1:23:30.960 --> 1:23:34.560 tough because ethically we're like not for solitary confinement and 1:23:34.680 --> 1:23:37.599 we're not death penalty girls. But when I hear their 1:23:37.680 --> 1:23:40.360 crimes back to back with them suing, it's like, yeah, 1:23:40.400 --> 1:23:43.599 fuck you, I hope your jail is shitty. You want 1:23:43.600 --> 1:23:47.559 to be treated well, fucking assholes, It's like so tough. Yeah, 1:23:48.640 --> 1:23:51.280 So that's that's those are my people. 1:23:52.439 --> 1:23:56.160 Do you have you ever watched Barry? Have I watched Barry? 1:23:56.240 --> 1:23:57.280 I have not watched Barry. 1:23:57.800 --> 1:24:00.880 There's like a very funny guy and Barry named no 1:24:01.000 --> 1:24:03.160 Ho Hank and he's Russian and he has like a 1:24:03.240 --> 1:24:05.800 Russian gang of guys that like it's a funny show. 1:24:06.120 --> 1:24:08.639 But these guys like if this is obviously very serious 1:24:08.680 --> 1:24:11.040 and horrific, but like these guys remind me of it. 1:24:11.240 --> 1:24:12.840 Like No Hank would totally be like. 1:24:12.880 --> 1:24:15.080 Body, I have an aquarium store, you know, and like 1:24:15.160 --> 1:24:17.280 they all come to the aquarium store, but like they 1:24:17.520 --> 1:24:20.560 kill people mercilessly just to like, you know, it's like 1:24:20.640 --> 1:24:24.280 all about getting money and getting they're more mob. 1:24:24.320 --> 1:24:28.840 They're like Russian mob but like, yeah, yeah, I'm imagining 1:24:28.880 --> 1:24:31.880 now Hank is one of these guys. But that's I'm 1:24:32.880 --> 1:24:37.160 so sad for these victims, you know, like just being 1:24:37.320 --> 1:24:44.160 lord ugh yeah, also like what breaks in these people's 1:24:44.240 --> 1:24:46.479 brains that they're just like yep, our businesses we kill 1:24:46.520 --> 1:24:47.080 people for money. 1:24:47.240 --> 1:24:49.240 Like it's just so psycho. 1:24:50.120 --> 1:24:53.080 But you know, I don't know. 1:24:54.880 --> 1:24:57.120 Thank you for doing that research. Yeah, and not a 1:24:57.160 --> 1:24:58.000 long one today. 1:24:58.800 --> 1:25:01.080 There should be more info them if I'm being honest, 1:25:01.200 --> 1:25:05.400 like this seems very interesting, but yeah, that's what I. 1:25:05.439 --> 1:25:13.559 Don't We will get into a post mortem right now. Well, 1:25:15.080 --> 1:25:18.000 that was a really intense episode. We never love to 1:25:18.080 --> 1:25:20.720 see somebody get their entire face removed, but it does 1:25:20.800 --> 1:25:23.559 happen on SVU here and there. And to cleanse our palate, 1:25:23.680 --> 1:25:27.120 Casey just showed us his dog a in a hoodie 1:25:27.360 --> 1:25:29.160 and we will be posting it on the Instagram so 1:25:29.600 --> 1:25:31.240 you can envision that for yourself and then you can 1:25:31.280 --> 1:25:32.200 watch it on our Instagram. 1:25:32.760 --> 1:25:34.320 But let's do post mortalie. 1:25:34.960 --> 1:25:38.320 It's just the horrors of the world, no no ends, 1:25:38.560 --> 1:25:42.320 and like we shouldn't know these things happen. It's it's 1:25:42.439 --> 1:25:44.760 beyond it's beyond. But the thing is I always thinking 1:25:44.760 --> 1:25:47.120 about like Middle Uh what is it? Middle Ages? 1:25:47.439 --> 1:25:48.000 Is that what it is? 1:25:48.120 --> 1:25:50.680 Back in the day they were pretty brutal as well. 1:25:51.360 --> 1:25:56.400 Were they more sociopaths overall or did they not grow there? 1:25:56.680 --> 1:25:59.679 Like? Why was torture so chill? Or were people upset 1:25:59.720 --> 1:26:00.599 back in the day too? 1:26:01.320 --> 1:26:02.200 God, I don't know. 1:26:02.439 --> 1:26:05.439 I mean I would assume nobody loved torture, but I 1:26:05.479 --> 1:26:07.720 think it was probably part of just like, yeah, part 1:26:07.800 --> 1:26:11.400 of everyday life. I mean, who was getting tortured back 1:26:11.479 --> 1:26:12.439 in like the Middle Ages? 1:26:12.640 --> 1:26:13.799 Just like everyone? 1:26:13.920 --> 1:26:17.800 I meanics or like you know, I mean if you 1:26:17.880 --> 1:26:19.599 were a witch, if you maybe if you didn't pay 1:26:19.600 --> 1:26:22.160 your taxes, I mean, if your king husband wanted to 1:26:22.160 --> 1:26:23.360 marry another woman, you're. 1:26:24.960 --> 1:26:27.200 Yeah, really ever, but nobody was safe from torture back 1:26:27.240 --> 1:26:30.280 in the day. But this is just because because they 1:26:30.320 --> 1:26:31.080 knew about it too. 1:26:31.200 --> 1:26:35.040 It's just like knowing that people's lives are so terrible 1:26:35.560 --> 1:26:39.519 is just like really hard. Yeah, it's not fair that 1:26:39.640 --> 1:26:42.600 these women want a future in a life and they 1:26:42.680 --> 1:26:46.240 are met with this psychopath who tattoos them and burns 1:26:46.280 --> 1:26:50.000 their faces off while using other women whose kids they 1:26:50.040 --> 1:26:52.040 have kidnapped like what the fuck? 1:26:53.160 --> 1:26:54.040 What the fuck? 1:26:55.960 --> 1:26:58.599 I guess you just kind of wonder like where somebody's 1:26:58.680 --> 1:27:01.600 like moral compass like disappears to like how it just 1:27:01.680 --> 1:27:03.040 like disintegrates to nothing. 1:27:03.120 --> 1:27:04.600 You're just I think it's what I have to do. 1:27:05.200 --> 1:27:08.040 I think you're I do. I think you're born to 1:27:08.120 --> 1:27:08.839 be that socio. 1:27:09.680 --> 1:27:09.880 Yeah. 1:27:10.040 --> 1:27:12.000 And then and then, I mean we've learned from as 1:27:12.040 --> 1:27:14.240 FuG and if you also have abuse, but I think 1:27:14.240 --> 1:27:14.680 you need to. 1:27:14.720 --> 1:27:15.759 Have that in you first. 1:27:15.960 --> 1:27:20.040 Like I think if you're abused, you might get you 1:27:20.280 --> 1:27:22.760 you will be fucked up. But I think to be 1:27:22.880 --> 1:27:24.960 a full psycho, you have to be born a psycho 1:27:25.040 --> 1:27:27.240 and then abused to make it worse. Like all the 1:27:27.320 --> 1:27:29.479 killers we talk about with these like do you think 1:27:29.520 --> 1:27:31.160 if they weren't abused they would just be chill? 1:27:31.320 --> 1:27:31.720 I don't know. 1:27:32.160 --> 1:27:32.360 Yeah. 1:27:32.880 --> 1:27:35.160 But also when we talk about this kind of stuff, 1:27:35.200 --> 1:27:37.759 like this is like also existing in the power structure 1:27:37.800 --> 1:27:40.240 of a mafia or a mob, right like kind of 1:27:40.320 --> 1:27:42.720 thing where it's all about sending messages. It's like they 1:27:42.760 --> 1:27:44.160 could have just shot this girl in the head and 1:27:44.200 --> 1:27:45.639 like left her on the beach, you know what I mean, 1:27:45.760 --> 1:27:48.400 Like they do all that stuff to send messages to 1:27:48.520 --> 1:27:53.360 other people, so behave yeah, to keep people in line. 1:27:53.439 --> 1:27:56.200 So it's like using violence and torture as a control 1:27:56.280 --> 1:27:58.600 device has been tail as old as time, you know. 1:27:59.400 --> 1:28:02.400 Yeah, but I mean we could talk about Brighton Beach. 1:28:02.479 --> 1:28:05.760 If you're ever there, you can the point chickier are 1:28:05.800 --> 1:28:08.520 the best. It's like these doughy things filled with potatoes. 1:28:08.960 --> 1:28:11.720 If you're on the boardwalk and you see like a crispy, 1:28:11.880 --> 1:28:17.040 golden brown dough, get one with potatoes and have a 1:28:17.080 --> 1:28:17.519 good time. 1:28:18.000 --> 1:28:19.240 Is that like a perogi? 1:28:20.360 --> 1:28:24.760 No, because our nikia this is more pitoshki. This is 1:28:24.920 --> 1:28:27.080 like a different type of dough. It's like a thicker dough. 1:28:27.120 --> 1:28:32.120 It's not a dumpling stuff. The dumplings are different. But 1:28:32.200 --> 1:28:33.680 the dumplings are good too. But I don't know if 1:28:33.680 --> 1:28:36.360 the dumplings would be like straight up on the boardwalk, 1:28:36.439 --> 1:28:40.200 like these are sold on the boardwalk, you know, on 1:28:40.320 --> 1:28:43.639 the streets, like they'll be venue like a street Yeah, 1:28:44.080 --> 1:28:45.040 like that's a street food. 1:28:45.080 --> 1:28:48.120 But obviously go in have a veryenikia have you know, 1:28:48.200 --> 1:28:49.519 lots of great stuff. 1:28:50.479 --> 1:28:53.920 Yeah, I mean, but just to go back to what 1:28:54.000 --> 1:28:56.840 we were just talking about, pre food, like the woman 1:28:56.960 --> 1:29:01.320 in the episode whose child was killed, like I don't 1:29:01.320 --> 1:29:03.720 know she was born a sociopath, but that event of 1:29:03.840 --> 1:29:06.240 violence is what turned her into like a bad guy, 1:29:06.600 --> 1:29:09.080 because like when she's smiling at the end and like 1:29:09.240 --> 1:29:13.880 she's enjoying the like cat and mouse of like how 1:29:13.960 --> 1:29:16.920 evil she is. But I wonder if before her child 1:29:17.160 --> 1:29:22.400 was like ceremoniously ripped from her and killed, she was 1:29:22.439 --> 1:29:27.400 a normal person who's to saying yeah when you don't 1:29:27.439 --> 1:29:28.320 have options? 1:29:30.400 --> 1:29:31.360 Yeah, And I don't know. 1:29:31.520 --> 1:29:37.720 It's also interesting in this episode too, that we now 1:29:37.880 --> 1:29:40.160 live in a time where Russian Brides used to kind 1:29:40.160 --> 1:29:42.120 of like when this episode came out, right, like this 1:29:42.200 --> 1:29:44.160 is season twelve, I forgot this came out like twenty 1:29:44.160 --> 1:29:46.680 eleven or something like. Russian brides have always been kind 1:29:46.680 --> 1:29:48.679 of like a little bit of like a punchline or whatever, 1:29:49.000 --> 1:29:50.800 like a thing you talk about. But now it's like 1:29:51.040 --> 1:29:55.160 TLC has made like a full programming off of this 1:29:55.479 --> 1:29:59.759 type of relationship, like you know, people that meet online 1:29:59.880 --> 1:30:02.960 or come from like other places to improve their station 1:30:03.120 --> 1:30:05.439 and also get married and start a different life. You know, 1:30:07.520 --> 1:30:11.120 like when you're talking about the Boris and Natasha scams 1:30:11.200 --> 1:30:13.439 and stuff, which are which are romance scams, but like 1:30:13.600 --> 1:30:15.400 you know, also. 1:30:15.680 --> 1:30:17.000 Yeah, the TLC of it all. 1:30:17.240 --> 1:30:19.960 Like even someone yesterday asked me, They're like, oh, what 1:30:20.040 --> 1:30:21.280 about ninety day or something? 1:30:21.320 --> 1:30:23.160 And I go, that's beneath me. I'm sorry. 1:30:23.280 --> 1:30:26.960 Bravo is a higher tier and TLC is more trash 1:30:27.040 --> 1:30:29.760 and exploitative. I think like this whole idea of a 1:30:29.840 --> 1:30:33.800 Bravo reckoning, it's like, ahh, how about TLC praying on 1:30:33.920 --> 1:30:37.679 the mentally ill? How about that? How about weird things? 1:30:38.040 --> 1:30:43.800 And all of like the extreme couponing shows were really 1:30:43.960 --> 1:30:48.040 disturbing to watch, like the cheap skate shows, Like it's 1:30:48.160 --> 1:30:52.080 just a little more uncomfortable for me the TLC. But 1:30:52.360 --> 1:30:55.840 what's wild about the ninety days I've seen a couple 1:30:56.080 --> 1:30:57.519 is like you don't know who's using who. 1:30:57.680 --> 1:30:59.920 It's like, yeah, you feel you feel bad for both 1:31:00.200 --> 1:31:00.439 of them. 1:31:00.520 --> 1:31:01.479 You're like who what is? 1:31:01.680 --> 1:31:05.080 Because it's someone that like obviously like cannot find love 1:31:05.280 --> 1:31:09.400 in any capacity. And then it's someone that wants to 1:31:09.560 --> 1:31:14.640 leave their country. And then it's like, I never, I 1:31:14.720 --> 1:31:16.600 don't know, it's well, I mean, but now you know 1:31:16.680 --> 1:31:18.920 it's opposite. Like there's people that are going to like 1:31:19.080 --> 1:31:22.559 different like from America, going places, going to live wow. 1:31:23.120 --> 1:31:25.040 And then the only clip I saw. Maybe I was 1:31:25.080 --> 1:31:25.479 in a hotel. 1:31:25.479 --> 1:31:27.080 I don't even know why I saw this, but it 1:31:27.200 --> 1:31:29.640 was like this one be like my family was right, 1:31:29.720 --> 1:31:31.680 I need to get the fuck out of here, like 1:31:32.479 --> 1:31:36.479 you're you suck because he he demanded children and she's like, 1:31:36.520 --> 1:31:38.479 we decided we don't want any. He goes, you better 1:31:38.520 --> 1:31:40.639 give me a child and she's like, I'm gonna leave 1:31:40.720 --> 1:31:41.200 the country. 1:31:41.840 --> 1:31:46.960 Why. Yeah, Like I mean famously, I dipped my toe 1:31:47.040 --> 1:31:51.400 in visiting a friend to TLC to ninety Day when 1:31:51.600 --> 1:31:54.080 I saw this girl who was like nineteen coming from 1:31:54.120 --> 1:31:56.280 the Philippines to marry like a forty nine year old 1:31:56.360 --> 1:31:59.400 man and he like wouldn't buy her a wedding dress 1:31:59.439 --> 1:32:02.080 for like four dollars at David's bridle. Like he was 1:32:02.160 --> 1:32:05.160 like nah, And I was like, yeah, this show makes 1:32:05.200 --> 1:32:07.559 me feel bad, Like but maybe that was a bad episode. 1:32:07.600 --> 1:32:10.120 I know I have friends with ninety day podcasts. I 1:32:10.240 --> 1:32:12.760 know it's like a huge phenomenon and people love it. 1:32:12.960 --> 1:32:15.200 But it's just like that first episode I called. I 1:32:15.320 --> 1:32:18.639 was like, this feels like a huge power imbalance. 1:32:18.720 --> 1:32:20.720 I hate this. I don't want to watch this, and 1:32:20.800 --> 1:32:21.639 maybe that's the SVU. 1:32:21.720 --> 1:32:23.120 Maybe I'm watching too much s for you, and I 1:32:23.360 --> 1:32:25.800 don't know, You're just you're just hoping that these people 1:32:25.960 --> 1:32:27.320 get the citizenship they need. 1:32:27.280 --> 1:32:30.880 And then and then they come bounce. Yeah, but let's 1:32:31.400 --> 1:32:33.560 move on to our what would Sister Peg do for 1:32:33.640 --> 1:32:38.600 this week? That's our weekly segment where we direct you to. 1:32:39.120 --> 1:32:42.240 Oh my god, So I just got a text. It says, 1:32:42.920 --> 1:32:47.280 sorry to alarm major news. The McNugget Buddies are returning 1:32:47.360 --> 1:32:52.000 to McDonald's December fucking eleventh. The nugget toys that nuggets 1:32:52.000 --> 1:32:56.280 our buck. Well, I have a nugget witch famously, but 1:32:56.600 --> 1:32:58.320 oh my god, these are. 1:32:58.479 --> 1:33:02.519 I thought something serious was happening, like geopolitically, and it's 1:33:02.560 --> 1:33:03.360 the nugget toys. 1:33:03.360 --> 1:33:04.400 And I'm so happy for you. 1:33:04.560 --> 1:33:06.439 But I just want to let you know that you 1:33:06.560 --> 1:33:09.800 bring the same energy to those both of those kind 1:33:09.800 --> 1:33:10.480 of announcements. 1:33:10.560 --> 1:33:13.760 I think after more than twenty five years, they're back 1:33:14.080 --> 1:33:15.760 just in time. How did you get this text? Who 1:33:15.840 --> 1:33:16.479 texted this to you? 1:33:16.920 --> 1:33:19.360 Julia Olsen? And I saw major news come up on 1:33:19.400 --> 1:33:20.880 the laptop. Major news. 1:33:22.200 --> 1:33:23.080 In all caps. 1:33:24.120 --> 1:33:25.840 This is you know how we a lot of times 1:33:25.880 --> 1:33:28.799 have unhinged intros. This is one of our most unhinged outros. 1:33:28.840 --> 1:33:31.519 I will say, like we are, we're bouncing all over 1:33:31.600 --> 1:33:35.160 the map. So okay, let's get into what would Sister 1:33:35.280 --> 1:33:38.680 Peg do? And you know, obviously all due respect to 1:33:38.720 --> 1:33:41.760 the nuggets, we're moving on to Sister Peg. This is 1:33:41.760 --> 1:33:43.680 our weekly segment where we point you guys to like 1:33:44.040 --> 1:33:47.560 a book, a blog post, a charitable organization, something to 1:33:47.920 --> 1:33:51.720 help or give you more context to what we talked 1:33:51.720 --> 1:33:54.920 about in today's episode. And for this week, I wanted 1:33:54.920 --> 1:33:58.240 to point you guys to a consumer advice article from 1:33:58.280 --> 1:34:01.679 the Federal Trade Commission called to Know about Romance Scams. 1:34:01.800 --> 1:34:03.640 I'm very I think we're all we were talking a 1:34:03.680 --> 1:34:05.760 little bit about romance scams in the episode with what 1:34:05.880 --> 1:34:08.760 happened to the man in this episode that he was 1:34:08.880 --> 1:34:12.479 basically being scammed from the get and in a much 1:34:12.520 --> 1:34:16.240 more intricate way that involved murder. But the tindler Swindler like, 1:34:16.320 --> 1:34:18.320 We're hearing about all these romance scams all the time, 1:34:18.400 --> 1:34:20.960 and I want everyone to know what they are so 1:34:21.080 --> 1:34:23.679 that you're not getting You guys are all really smart, 1:34:23.720 --> 1:34:25.640 but just in case you never know who can scam you. 1:34:26.000 --> 1:34:28.320 The article points to the types of lies romance scammers 1:34:28.360 --> 1:34:30.000 will frequently use to get money out of you. It 1:34:30.040 --> 1:34:33.160 also has resources for reporting potential romance scams, and if 1:34:33.200 --> 1:34:35.720 you're interested, there's even a fun little animated video of 1:34:35.760 --> 1:34:37.880 a woman getting duped by a scammer. So that's fun. 1:34:38.840 --> 1:34:41.240 Well, I mean, we know our friend, we know someone 1:34:41.320 --> 1:34:43.679 related to our friend who's being scammed by someone pretending 1:34:43.720 --> 1:34:44.639 to be Kevin Costner. 1:34:45.400 --> 1:34:49.440 Yes, that's an older person and that's happening. That's an epidemic. 1:34:49.560 --> 1:34:50.200 That's not just her. 1:34:50.439 --> 1:34:53.519 That's how it's a yellows people. Yellowstone is taken over. 1:34:53.640 --> 1:34:56.439 People are going to Montana and they're also scamming elderly 1:34:56.640 --> 1:34:59.160 women being like I'm Kevin Costner and I would like 1:34:59.200 --> 1:35:01.400 to fuck you, and they're giving away minute. 1:35:01.160 --> 1:35:03.599 If you could just empty your bank account, I need 1:35:03.680 --> 1:35:08.040 the money. As Kevin Costner, star of Yellowstone. It's really 1:35:08.600 --> 1:35:11.760 it's really dark because it's like you can get through 1:35:11.760 --> 1:35:15.920 to vulnerable people who really can't be unconvinced and stuff 1:35:16.200 --> 1:35:20.080 because of various reasons, and so you just want to 1:35:20.160 --> 1:35:22.280 like try to be as safe as possible. So for 1:35:22.360 --> 1:35:25.960 more info about this, it's kind of an a complicated link. 1:35:26.000 --> 1:35:27.960 It's not just like a simple website, So go to 1:35:28.000 --> 1:35:30.439 the article linked in our show notes, and as always, 1:35:30.479 --> 1:35:33.920 I post it as a story in our Instagram feed 1:35:33.960 --> 1:35:35.479 the day that the episode comes out, and it's safe 1:35:35.520 --> 1:35:38.160 forever in our WWSPD highlight. 1:35:39.520 --> 1:35:42.000 Thank you so much for all of that. 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