Speaker 1: Look Out's only films to be buried with. Hello, and
Speaker 1: welcome to Films to be Buried with. My name is
Speaker 1: Brett Goldstein. I'm a comedian and actor, a writer, a director,
Speaker 1: the other one, and I love films. As Oprah Winfrey
Speaker 1: once said, you can have it all, just not all
Speaker 1: at once. Yes, the Souvenir Part two is more fun,
Speaker 1: but you do have to start with the Souvenir to
Speaker 1: fully understand the Souvenir Part two. That's just how it works.
Speaker 1: You're going to have to deal with it. That's true,
Speaker 1: Aprah Winfrey. Every week I invite special guests over. I
Speaker 1: tell them they've died. Then I get them to discuss
Speaker 1: their life through the films that meant the most of them.
Speaker 1: Previous guests include Barry Jenkins, Himes, Patel, Mark Frost, Sharon Stone,
Speaker 1: Sarah Marshall, Jamila Jamil and even Bled Clambles. But this
Speaker 1: week it's the brilliant comic actor Helena York. This is
Speaker 1: the end of this season. I'll be taking four weeks off,
Speaker 1: but there'll be four rewind classics in the meantime before
Speaker 1: we return with an absolutely massive one on August ninth.
Speaker 1: You can watch all of Shrinking on Apple TV Plus
Speaker 1: and all three seasons of Ted Lasso on Apple TV Plus.
Speaker 1: Make sure you watch them all. Head over to the
Speaker 1: Patreon at patreon dot com forward slash Brett Goldstein, where
Speaker 1: you get an extra twenty minutes of chat with Helena.
Speaker 1: We laugh a lot, she tells me a secret, We
Speaker 1: talk about beginnings and endings. You get the whole episode,
Speaker 1: uncut and ad free, and does a video. Check it
Speaker 1: out over at patreon dot com Forward slash Brett Goldstein.
Speaker 1: So Helena York is a brilliant and hilarious musical theater
Speaker 1: actor and star of the excellent The Other Two, which,
Speaker 1: if you haven't seen it, it just finished its third
Speaker 1: season and it is truly brilliant. You should watch it.
Speaker 1: We recorded this a couple of weeks ago on Zoom.
Speaker 1: We'd never met before. We had such a good time.
Speaker 1: This one's really funny. I really think you're gonna love
Speaker 1: this one. So that is it for now. I very
Speaker 1: much hope you enjoy episode two hundred and fifty five
Speaker 1: of Films to be Very With. Hello, and welcome to
Speaker 1: Films to be Buried With. It is I Brett Goldstein,
Speaker 1: and I am joined today by an actor, a musical superstar,
Speaker 1: a comedian, a sitcom giant, a legend, a master of sex,
Speaker 1: a thirty.
Speaker 2: Rocker, and of one of one of the.
Speaker 1: Greatest of the other two. I can't believe she's here.
Speaker 1: She really is. But look at her. If you're looking
Speaker 1: on the video, you can see her, and if you're listening,
Speaker 1: you can hear her.
Speaker 2: Here.
Speaker 1: She is the myth, the legend, the woman. It's a
Speaker 1: lighter York.
Speaker 3: Claps her self.
Speaker 2: Oh, big fan, Hello, nice to see you and meet you.
Speaker 3: We've been chatting for maybe three minutes and I'm very
Speaker 3: still starstruck.
Speaker 2: I'm equally starstruck.
Speaker 1: I will send to you off Mike, and I realized
Speaker 1: I should say it on Mike, that's your show the
Speaker 1: other two which I don't know how many people in
Speaker 1: England have seen it, but if you haven't seen it,
Speaker 1: you need to see it, and I'll tell you for
Speaker 1: a way. For many reasons, it's brilliant, but it's also
Speaker 1: incredibly unusual in TV for the first episode to be perfect.
Speaker 1: As most TV shows, people say, give it three seasons
Speaker 1: and it starts to get good. You just got to
Speaker 1: give it. It's just got to give it five weeks of
Speaker 1: your life and then it starts getting good. But the
Speaker 1: other two first episode is like, yeah, you nailed it everyone.
Speaker 1: It's very clear this show. Everything's funny, all the characters
Speaker 1: you care about. Everyone is sympathetic, empathetic, it's got pathos.
Speaker 1: It's a funny idea filled with jokes, fucking brilliant. Oh
Speaker 1: thank you, And that's episode right.
Speaker 3: Well that's how I feel about ted Lasso. You guys
Speaker 3: were all a perfect cast in our produced perfectly in
Speaker 3: the pilot episode. I thought, I feel like that's what
Speaker 3: you guys got so right was cast? It was like
Speaker 3: so great, every single person was perfect. You know what
Speaker 3: I mean?
Speaker 1: In your show? And forgive me for not knowing your
Speaker 1: life story? Did you all know each other? It is
Speaker 1: your show a magical thing? Is it something that you've
Speaker 1: been building towards? Like did you know Drew and the writers?
Speaker 3: Like no, I didn't. Well, I don't know about you
Speaker 3: and your comedy journey. But I went to musical theater school,
Speaker 3: so I was this kind of like geek that was
Speaker 3: doing theater and when it came time to like take
Speaker 3: an improv class when I was unemployed, they were four
Speaker 3: hunderd dollars and I was like, I can't fucking afford that.
Speaker 3: And so I wasn't in the world, like I wasn't
Speaker 3: in the improv like Drew Tarvar is a wonderful improviser
Speaker 3: through does Upright Citizens Brigade, is on improv teams tours
Speaker 3: with Ben Schwartz and is very very funny in that way.
Speaker 3: And then Chris and Sarah who created the other two
Speaker 3: were you know, comedians, improfisers, worked at College Humor and
Speaker 3: then you know co head wrote SNL and so when
Speaker 3: I read the show, I was like, and you know,
Speaker 3: it's so funny. I was just listening to Adam Scott's
Speaker 3: episode of your show and he read Severance and he
Speaker 3: was like, this is really great. I'm not going to
Speaker 3: get it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's.
Speaker 3: Sort of how I felt. I actually, as an actor,
Speaker 3: hate reading things I want. It's devastating, like devastating because
Speaker 3: it's sort of like, oh, the fall from the rejection
Speaker 3: will be from such a greater height and will hurt
Speaker 3: so much more. So it was kind of this like
Speaker 3: it was like a cool kids on the other side
Speaker 3: of the playground that I didn't know anybody, and you know,
Speaker 3: got to a table read in LA and like met
Speaker 3: Ken Marino and Molly Shannon was like, what the fuck
Speaker 3: am I doing here?
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 3: And the entire shooting of the pilot. That's so nice
Speaker 3: what you said about the pilot. It was like dying
Speaker 3: of an anxiety attack because I was positive they were
Speaker 3: gonna replace me. They're gonna shoot the whole pilot and
Speaker 3: be like, we have to redo all of Poleno's scenes.
Speaker 2: That's so great. I didn't know.
Speaker 1: I didn't know that you were completely unknown to do
Speaker 1: or as in you you were not connected anyway.
Speaker 2: That's fucking cool. What a find.
Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you so much. Yes, I am such a
Speaker 3: thank you.
Speaker 2: Fine, Yes, thank you.
Speaker 3: This is a diamond and the rough. That's what I
Speaker 3: call myself all the time. Yeah. I was on this
Speaker 3: show called High Maintenance and on HBO and that Chris
Speaker 3: christ and Sarah watched me on that. It's just like
Speaker 3: a common thing of people see you in one thing
Speaker 3: and it's just about breaking in. And that's what's so hard.
Speaker 3: That's what I found hard.
Speaker 1: It's also unusual for shows too well. I suppose you
Speaker 1: have peripheral famous people in your show, but for the
Speaker 1: for the two leads, not to be megastars is amazing
Speaker 1: and unusual and a great thing.
Speaker 2: I mean, now you are.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a mega superstar.
Speaker 2: Give me forgive me.
Speaker 3: Decidedly not. I'm decidedly not. But it is funny. I mean,
Speaker 3: you know, it's like I talk about this all the time.
Speaker 3: It's with acting and with doing this, there's always a
Speaker 3: new obstacle, right. It's like if you're going to look
Speaker 3: for a job at a certain point after you've like
Speaker 3: led a show, they're like, well, we're out to names,
Speaker 3: and you're like, well what does that mean? It's so crazy.
Speaker 3: It's like the goalpost is always moving. But it was
Speaker 3: very nice to be absolutely no one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we need a real nobody.
Speaker 3: I'm here, yes, me.
Speaker 1: You're fantastic. You're fantastic, and you've done three seasons. Tell
Speaker 1: me how you feel because the show is beloved and
Speaker 1: successful and you're in season three of it. So you
Speaker 1: went from you know, not being very well known to
Speaker 1: being much much, much much more well known. Now, how
Speaker 1: have you changed in the three years? Basically, are you
Speaker 1: know a massive dicket question?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm a massive dickhead. You just like took
Speaker 3: the words right out of my fucking mouth asshole with
Speaker 3: this motherbucker do his podcast. God, I mean to waiters,
Speaker 3: I mean to my uber drivers. I'm like everywhere I go,
Speaker 3: I'm like, what you don't know who I am? And
Speaker 3: then like throw silverware and demand that everyone serve me.
Speaker 3: How am I different? I guess I guess I would
Speaker 3: say I'm sadly the same. I'm older, I think more
Speaker 3: than anything. I think when you go from being nobody
Speaker 3: and clawing and scraping to you know, I still have
Speaker 3: to and do claw and scrape, there's a confidence in
Speaker 3: yourself that I think moving forward through life is so nice.
Speaker 3: It's just like, oh, hopefully when people meet me, or
Speaker 3: even if they haven't, they at least know about it,
Speaker 3: have like a context for who I am, what I do,
Speaker 3: and like what I'm like. And so it's sort of
Speaker 3: like your reputation precedes you before you walk into a room,
Speaker 3: as opposed to having to prove yourself everywhere you go.
Speaker 3: I don't know that that's a change. It's just sort
Speaker 3: of I'm a little bit more backfooted. I'm trying to
Speaker 3: figure out how.
Speaker 1: And you can go like, you can go, hey, how
Speaker 1: you doing. I'll let you catch up to me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you don't go like, hi, I'm me and I'm great and.
Speaker 3: Exactly, yeah, you guys will figure it out. I say that,
Speaker 3: And yet I was just joking with you before this.
Speaker 3: I read an interview that I gave that I absolutely
Speaker 3: sounded like such a dickhead in just like a total
Speaker 3: coked up lunatic, and I'm like, maybe I'm not as back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but the interview you're referring to is in print,
Speaker 1: and I think print interviews are nearly impossible because you're
Speaker 1: in real life funny and anything you say funny that
Speaker 1: when it is then written down, often without the context
Speaker 1: around it, you sound mad.
Speaker 3: It's a goddamn nightmare, especially if you swear a lot
Speaker 3: like we do. I don't know if you have this problem.
Speaker 3: I read myself in interviews and I'm like, oh my god,
Speaker 3: you're a psychopathe.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I think that all the time.
Speaker 1: But sometimes they edit out my swears and I go,
Speaker 1: oh no, this is only funny with the swears you take.
Speaker 1: You take the swears out, now I sound really sincere,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Or now it's like that's
Speaker 1: the worst part of it is when you're you were
Speaker 1: being funny at the table but then written down, it
Speaker 1: just reads sincere and you're like, oh no, I sound
Speaker 1: very earnest.
Speaker 3: Or like really egotistical. Like a part of how I'm gross,
Speaker 3: how I'm funny and quotes is to be disgustingly self
Speaker 3: deprecating by bragging about myself. So when you see it
Speaker 3: in print, it's just bragging about myself. Well, I'll be like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm just like fucking amazing, and everybody's just out of me.
Speaker 3: But you like read it in print and it's like
Speaker 3: this girl, she's changed.
Speaker 1: I sat with I sat with Helene. She told me
Speaker 1: she was like fucking amazing. Yeah, it's a fucking mind show.
Speaker 3: It's please context. There's just no context. If you get
Speaker 3: interviewed and there's like no, the interviewer doesn't put their
Speaker 3: own voice in it. It's just like a run on
Speaker 3: sentence of every dumb thing you said and every name drop.
Speaker 3: That's the other thing. I'm like, oh my god, this
Speaker 3: is insufferable. I will say you do in a way
Speaker 3: that you've changed. If you become more successful and people
Speaker 3: know you and you meet all sorts of people, you
Speaker 3: have opportunities to name drop, like you're dropping bombs like crazy. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: but it's disgusting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean yeah, I don't know your your experiences.
Speaker 3: No, I mean like later, I could be like, you know,
Speaker 3: I was like talking to Brett Goldstein the other day
Speaker 3: and he was telling me and asking me like how
Speaker 3: I've changed, And I was like, you, we just dropped
Speaker 3: Brett Goldstein in a conversation.
Speaker 2: That's going to get you, Eddie does who you know
Speaker 2: the sweary guy, The sweary guy, the guy that says.
Speaker 3: Fuck all the time, doesn't swear in print and sounds
Speaker 3: deeply sincere.
Speaker 1: Gotten to tell you something that I now need to
Speaker 1: tell you, which is you've died.
Speaker 2: You're dead dead.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, A lot of things make sense now. I
Speaker 3: feel I've just always been feeling a little invisible lately,
Speaker 3: straight through me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well you're dead, thank you.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, Oh my god, oh my god. Do
Speaker 3: I need to call anybody? I suppose I can't?
Speaker 1: No, no, no, but you you can. You can tap
Speaker 1: them on the shoulder and sort of whisper, But you
Speaker 1: can't call them.
Speaker 2: You can't do anything. You can't work with technology.
Speaker 3: Okay, I do. I'm sort of excited from this place
Speaker 3: to also watch people more in me and give me
Speaker 3: more attention than it is ever imaginable. I do you
Speaker 3: ever think too like if like did I die on
Speaker 3: the same day as like somebody bigger will anybody that.
Speaker 2: Is such a great, such a great.
Speaker 3: Like did I die and did Oprah die on the
Speaker 3: same day?
Speaker 1: Oh God, you're just not going to get you. Okay,
Speaker 1: So you died the same day as Oprah? I don't
Speaker 1: even know if you make the papers.
Speaker 3: My god, nobody gives a ship. You're not even a thumbnail.
Speaker 3: You're not even a thumbnail on the cover of people.
Speaker 3: They dedicate the entire cover to her. She's on the
Speaker 3: every you.
Speaker 1: Know, when you know, when they do the like in
Speaker 1: memoriam at the Oscars or the Emmys, it's just Oprah.
Speaker 2: It's just her.
Speaker 1: It's a five minute tribute to Oprah. Anyone else who
Speaker 1: died that you forget it?
Speaker 3: I wonder if I would be in the tribute at
Speaker 3: the Oscars.
Speaker 1: I think no, Well, because of Oprah? How did you
Speaker 1: die the same year as Oprah? How did you die?
Speaker 3: Well? I got hit by an electric bicycle crossing Prospect
Speaker 3: Park West as this guy just like absolutely bad out
Speaker 3: of hell needed to get somebody their sushi lunch and
Speaker 3: Oprah died. She was for b sushi.
Speaker 2: You were connected forever.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Oprah died like in the middle of the ocean
Speaker 3: doing an amazing story on saving the Oorca whales, and
Speaker 3: like the entire boat got swallowed whole and she's just gone.
Speaker 3: Actually I did see a video of that happening to somebody. Yeah,
Speaker 3: getting swallowed by a kayak.
Speaker 2: They're killing people, yeahs are killing the bikes. Yeah there,
Speaker 2: what's the word? Training each other?
Speaker 3: Well, and they took out Oprah.
Speaker 2: And she was out there trying to save them. She
Speaker 2: didn't know what they wanted. They wanted to be left alone.
Speaker 1: Well, okay, so you hit by an electric bike and
Speaker 1: someone didn't get their sushi?
Speaker 2: Did the person riding the bike? Was it hit and
Speaker 2: run or were they like, go, yeah, it was a
Speaker 2: hit and run. I didn't stop.
Speaker 3: If you live in New York City, which I know
Speaker 3: you don't, these guys have a mind of their own.
Speaker 3: They don't give a shit what happened. They don't care
Speaker 3: what happened to me. They got to get to the
Speaker 3: next thing. And you know what, I appreciate and respect
Speaker 3: the hustle.
Speaker 1: Okay, so you're not even mad about it. Right, So
Speaker 1: you killed ben electric bike? Do you worry about death?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, doesn't everybody? Does anybody answer no?
Speaker 2: You know what?
Speaker 1: I did want to recording one these yesterday? He answered no,
Speaker 1: he said, don't think about it. No point saying.
Speaker 3: All the time. And recently, my husband and I sat
Speaker 3: down to do our living will, which I guess, damn
Speaker 3: is coming into use at this exact moment now that
Speaker 3: I'm doing this pod, and I've been informed they must
Speaker 3: be reading it, thank god.
Speaker 2: Yeah, any surprises in it and living but any surprises
Speaker 2: in the living room any like. Do you think anyone
Speaker 2: will be like yeah.
Speaker 3: Wow, well yeah, I think my well, no, he's not
Speaker 3: going to be surprised. We gave our baby to a
Speaker 3: member of the family, and I think other members will
Speaker 3: be jealous and mad. And I've been really rushing my
Speaker 3: husband to get this in because I was like, there
Speaker 3: needs to be no confusion over who gets this baby,
Speaker 3: because he's the only grandchild's ni nephew, anybody. And I
Speaker 3: think people would like people by people, I mean my
Speaker 3: family would tear each other new absolute pieces fighting over
Speaker 3: this child. Right, But I thought about death so much
Speaker 3: person knowing yet and the person knowing getting their baby
Speaker 3: is like, now threatening to kill me to get said
Speaker 3: baby is like, well, that's so sad that you told
Speaker 3: me that I'm going to kill you now because I
Speaker 3: want him.
Speaker 2: Does that person ride an electric bike?
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I'm not even kidding you right now.
Speaker 3: This is not a joke. He does. He has an
Speaker 3: electric bike.
Speaker 2: I didn't think it was such an accident.
Speaker 3: I can't believe he actually does. And that came full circle.
Speaker 3: That was gorgeous Brett. That is comedy and a full
Speaker 3: circles for herself.
Speaker 1: Thanks for everyone who came. I just want to say,
Speaker 1: we don't take this for granted. We've had a good type.
Speaker 1: Hang on, why are you worrying about death so much?
Speaker 3: I've always worried about death so much, even as a kid,
Speaker 3: Like I cried to my grandmother, my oma, and I
Speaker 3: was like, am I gonna die? And she said yeah?
Speaker 3: And I think about like and you know what's the
Speaker 3: other reason too? This is so psycho everything I do?
Speaker 3: Now do you do this? I'm like, well, I want
Speaker 3: to take care of old lady me, or like I
Speaker 3: want I think about everything I do as in like
Speaker 3: when I'm on my deathbed, when it's like the last
Speaker 3: couple of months when like the writing's on the wall,
Speaker 3: will I look back and be like fuck? Yeah? And
Speaker 3: so almost like I think about death in relationship to
Speaker 3: everything I do.
Speaker 2: Shit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I suppose I do in terms of That's why
Speaker 1: I want to get so much shit done because I
Speaker 1: feel like time's running out.
Speaker 3: Yes, I gotta do this. I gotta like meet this person.
Speaker 3: I can't miss out on that restaurant if I don't
Speaker 3: go to that, or like I need to. I need
Speaker 3: to experience the full round of life so that when
Speaker 3: I'm at the end, I look back and I'm like,
Speaker 3: fucking did it?
Speaker 2: Yeah, then death is on your side. This is good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you're saying without the specter of death hanging over,
Speaker 1: you'd probably be just sort of laying around.
Speaker 3: I think that's a really nice way of looking at it. Yes,
Speaker 3: I choose to look at it that way, Brett.
Speaker 2: What do you think happens when you die? Is there
Speaker 2: an afterlife for you? Helena?
Speaker 3: Is there an afterlife? I think about this a lot
Speaker 3: of times too. Well, Oh, this is so deep. I'm
Speaker 3: converting to Judaism so in that the answer is now.
Speaker 3: But if I went back to my old roots, it
Speaker 3: would be yes, but I don't know. In a way
Speaker 3: that is beautiful? Don't you think we never die if
Speaker 3: you do a good job at living and you live
Speaker 3: on through the legacy of your friends, your children, your
Speaker 3: loved ones. In that way, is that after Is that
Speaker 3: the afterlife is like you in memory? I don't know.
Speaker 2: You're talking like Coco rules, Coco rules of like you
Speaker 2: live as long as you're remembered.
Speaker 3: What is that Coco rules?
Speaker 1: The film the picks up film Kaiko, which is all
Speaker 1: about death, is I don't know that one. You should see.
Speaker 1: It will fuck you up. But it's basically the dead remembered.
Speaker 1: If you have pictures of your family, if you love
Speaker 1: and the people that you love and you think about,
Speaker 1: they live on because you remember them, basically, and if
Speaker 1: you stop remembering them, then they go, then they're dead.
Speaker 2: Dead damn.
Speaker 3: That's the afterlife or the afterlife only lives as long
Speaker 3: as you're remembered.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the film doesn't really answer what happens after that bit,
Speaker 1: just oblivion.
Speaker 2: I suppose do you know what makes to be sad
Speaker 2: about that?
Speaker 3: Oh? Go ahead, No, I want to hear your worry
Speaker 3: with it.
Speaker 2: No, I know my worry.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm wondering if it's your worry. Maybe not. But
Speaker 3: my worry with that is is like, is that a
Speaker 3: part of the then you get into the hamster wheel
Speaker 3: of being like I must be as known as possible
Speaker 3: in life, so I'm remembered as long as possible, and
Speaker 3: then that will extend my afterlife.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you've also got a guy like it's not
Speaker 1: a great necessarily sort of role because Hitler's very well remembered.
Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Like well remembered. He's remembered well, as in he's distinctively remembered.
Speaker 3: But you just said he's well well.
Speaker 1: Remember he's famously thought of quite highly for years.
Speaker 3: Well post podcast, Brett Goldstein talks about Hitler as being remembered.
Speaker 1: But the point is he's not been around for a while,
Speaker 1: but we're still talking about him, which means, by these rules,
Speaker 1: he's having a lovely time in this afterlife.
Speaker 2: Or it's perfectly see what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I guess well, because he's remembered, but it's like memory
Speaker 3: and he's sticking around to like witness how big of
Speaker 3: a piece of shit he was being, Like, Oh, I
Speaker 3: was a turning point for humanity. That's how bad of
Speaker 3: a dude I was.
Speaker 2: Doesn't it that you remember him well at all?
Speaker 3: I don't have great memories to learn.
Speaker 1: No bread sounds like a well through your fields sounds
Speaker 1: like a dick it anyway. The point is the point
Speaker 1: is this you living through the memory of your family
Speaker 1: and friends. Is all well and good for two generations, Matt.
Speaker 3: Right, mad?
Speaker 2: And then I don't remember any many.
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe maybe two more generations if you're lucky. There's
Speaker 1: a new version of Who Do you Think You Are?
Speaker 1: And they do an episode and they find out, oh,
Speaker 1: your great great great great great grandma was in a
Speaker 1: show called The Other Two when there was the thing
Speaker 1: that used to be called TV, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: And then you're you've brought back in the afternoon.
Speaker 3: Because of that show. That won't be on TV. It'll
Speaker 3: be on whatever it is.
Speaker 2: It will just be so then when you're forgotten.
Speaker 3: I probably. Here's the thing I think about is that,
Speaker 3: you know how like the cosmos, it's never ending, Like
Speaker 3: what is the edge of the universe? What what is
Speaker 3: the unknowable thing? Is our lives and our spirit and
Speaker 3: whatever our ethos is. Isn't that an unknowable thing? Is
Speaker 3: that not a frontier of the unknowable? Can we know?
Speaker 3: When I start to think about space, it really makes
Speaker 3: me want to vomit. It's just too much being like
Speaker 3: what too much? How big is it? Ah?
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
Speaker 3: I'm like no, no, no, no, no, no no no.
Speaker 3: But if you think about souls afterlife, what happens to us?
Speaker 3: If you look in the grand scheme of like God,
Speaker 3: Jesus Christ, like why is anything anything? Can't you think? Oh,
Speaker 3: then there's got to be an answer for like who
Speaker 3: we are and where we go? And everybody tells you
Speaker 3: stuff like you're so like your grandmother or whatever, like
Speaker 3: are you not recycled a little bit?
Speaker 2: Yeah? That stuff hang on.
Speaker 1: Firstly, if you do ever finish the other two, I
Speaker 1: would like to pitch a space show much like Star Trek,
Speaker 1: where you are the lead captain and every episode starts
Speaker 1: with a shot of space, the space you're going through it,
Speaker 1: and the voiceover is you going space?
Speaker 2: It's too much.
Speaker 1: That's why I want the opening Jesus Christ.
Speaker 2: Is too much?
Speaker 3: Is it? I don't like it?
Speaker 1: Is too much? That's a good opening anyway. The other thing,
Speaker 1: what we're saying space. You recycling, So yeah, recycling souls
Speaker 1: the unknowable. I mean, yeah, that stuff is weird. It
Speaker 1: is weird how my nephew looks the same as me
Speaker 1: and my dad and and it's just like all these
Speaker 1: like the way he smiles. You go, well, it looks
Speaker 1: like it's just recycling. Everything's recycling. You're right, But I
Speaker 1: do often think, and again I'm not sure why this
Speaker 1: why it should be this case.
Speaker 2: I sometimes think that you die and when you die,
Speaker 2: you go, oh, it's everything everything. You'll return to the
Speaker 2: space where you're not in this body with its limited
Speaker 2: brain and it's limited eyes, and the thing is let
Speaker 2: in and suddenly you are all consciousness over the world,
Speaker 2: all the light, and you go, oh yeah, all that stuff.
Speaker 3: I can't believe I did that for ninety years.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, oh I like that. I don't believe. I'm
Speaker 2: worried about that print interview, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: You go, Also, I think about this sometimes. Once you
Speaker 3: get to that place, are you then like spend a
Speaker 3: little time doing that and think, you know, I want
Speaker 3: to try yes, And you live it then for ninety
Speaker 3: years and you go back to that like upper consciousness
Speaker 3: thing that you just talked about and you're like that
Speaker 3: was interesting, Like there's some guy up there, some dickhead
Speaker 3: was like, I'm going to try to be this Hitler
Speaker 3: guy and see what happens. And he goes up and
Speaker 3: he's like, damn, that was fucked up. Him with Hitler
Speaker 3: is an example we should stop talking about him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it does seem like we're sort of really obsessive
Speaker 2: or you think.
Speaker 3: Like, ooh, you know, I want to try being a
Speaker 3: middle of the road dalist actress. Let me try that.
Speaker 2: Going to her.
Speaker 3: And just try it, and honestly it's been great.
Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you what. I'll tell you what, Helena.
Speaker 2: There is a heaven.
Speaker 1: There is this place and you're going there and you're
Speaker 1: very welcome, and I'll tell you a spoiler.
Speaker 2: Hitler's not there. You were right place, poorly remembered, well remembered, but.
Speaker 1: Very poorly remembered. And it's filled. Heaven is filled with
Speaker 1: your favorite thing. What's your favorite thing?
Speaker 3: What's my favorite thing? Is cheese?
Speaker 1: Right this place, this is a cheese factory. It's like
Speaker 1: cheesecake factory, but it's just cheese and everything everywhere is cheese.
Speaker 1: You know, nice, like the right texture to sit in.
Speaker 1: The savors are made of cheese. It won't break. It's
Speaker 1: sort of soft, squeaky cheese. You're sitting on a squeaky cheese.
Speaker 3: This honestly sounds like a nightmare. No longer, Yeah, like
Speaker 3: how long you still love cheese? Honestly, the song this.
Speaker 2: Is why you might be like, I changed my mind.
Speaker 3: I'm going to go back.
Speaker 2: I'm going back, I'll go back, I'll be an elist actor.
Speaker 2: Let me go. What's below d.
Speaker 1: It's cheeze everywhere and everyone is excited to see you. Oh,
Speaker 1: the giant cheese strings that talk, and they're very big
Speaker 1: fans of yours, and they want to talk about your
Speaker 1: life through film. The first thing they ask you, the
Speaker 1: giant cheese string people, is what is the first film
Speaker 1: you remember seeing?
Speaker 2: Helena York?
Speaker 3: Okay, being asked this is interesting because you get told
Speaker 3: that you've seen films, but you have to like to
Speaker 3: remember being told versus remembering. And this question is also
Speaker 3: how old are you, Helena York? My answer is The
Speaker 3: Little Mermaid, which was the nineteen eighty nine animated.
Speaker 2: Film.
Speaker 3: And my brother was born that year and we would
Speaker 3: sing the songs all day long, and he and I'll
Speaker 3: never forget him. I was like, I have another brother,
Speaker 3: and he would shame him because he'd be like, oh now, wolad.
Speaker 3: And I'm pretty sure we were basically shaming him into
Speaker 3: speech therapy to learn how to say his rs. But
Speaker 3: it's a little Mermaid.
Speaker 2: Do you still sing?
Speaker 1: How you will?
Speaker 2: Ahad?
Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah?
Speaker 2: At him?
Speaker 3: Oh now, wollad? Fuck you. It's like that.
Speaker 2: Are you the middle of two boys?
Speaker 3: No, I'm the oldest with two boys.
Speaker 2: Right, I see? I see? And did you?
Speaker 1: Did the Little Mermaid make you want to be a
Speaker 1: musical person, a star or a mermaid?
Speaker 3: I think it maybe want to be a mermaid and
Speaker 3: a singer, right, because something I'm going to say about
Speaker 3: myself that would look bad in print. Because this is
Speaker 3: a brag.
Speaker 1: Make it the quie, Make get the quiet guy. Let's
Speaker 1: replace the Hitler thing with this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, replace it with us quickly, quickly, quickly make her
Speaker 3: sound like a dick. Ahead is if if you can sing,
Speaker 3: if you're going to be able to sing, it's kind
Speaker 3: of evident at an early age, and you feel that
Speaker 3: your voice can do this thing and singing that music
Speaker 3: was that for me? Look at this stuff like all
Speaker 3: that all those songs and recently it's so good.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I haven't seen the New Life. No, I haven't seen
Speaker 3: it yet. But that is uh, isn't it. John Candor
Speaker 3: wrote all those songs, Alan Candor, Alan Mankin. Yeah, oh
Speaker 3: they're so good.
Speaker 1: Do you find I once met a man who sings,
Speaker 1: who's an actor, a singing actor as they call him,
Speaker 1: and he telled me sincerely, And I didn't laugh at it.
Speaker 1: I really think think about this quite often. I go,
Speaker 1: what a wonderful he meant it. It's difficult for someone
Speaker 1: who finds sincere, it's difficult. But this was a very
Speaker 1: beautiful thing he said. I said, we're talking about him
Speaker 1: singing and stuff, and he said, with no irony. When
Speaker 1: I sing, I feel closer to God. For that's loving.
Speaker 1: Is that how you feel?
Speaker 3: That? Is so nice? Do I feel closer to God?
Speaker 3: It's a powerful feeling singing and being good at singing
Speaker 3: and doing it for people, And so maybe that's what
Speaker 3: he's talking about. It is this sort of other plane
Speaker 3: that you go to, like I've stood center stage and
Speaker 3: nailed it. And if that is what being close to
Speaker 3: God is, then sure it's an unbelievable feeling. But he
Speaker 3: meant like sincerely in a room by himself.
Speaker 1: No, I think the difference between him and you is
Speaker 1: he said it made me feel closer to God as
Speaker 1: an untelling God. What you've just said is you feel
Speaker 1: like a God.
Speaker 2: Again.
Speaker 3: This is why I get trouble in print, is that
Speaker 3: it makes me feel godly as God. Yes, oh my
Speaker 3: fucking God, kill me. Yeah, that is what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I'm saying it, and fuck it, I said it, and
Speaker 3: it's true.
Speaker 2: It's true. I can't sing it be amazing, What an
Speaker 2: amazing thing.
Speaker 3: It's the best feeling, and when you're good at it
Speaker 3: at a young age, everybody makes a big deal out
Speaker 3: of you. I like it when people make a big
Speaker 3: deal out of me, is what I'm saying. And it's
Speaker 3: really it's just a continuation of what you're saying. I'm saying,
Speaker 3: which is that Yeah, I like to be seen as
Speaker 3: being the best, which, if you saw written out in
Speaker 3: print again, would look really bad.
Speaker 1: I think this is how episodes should be transcribed, both
Speaker 1: of us. Do you what is the film that made you.
Speaker 2: Cry the most? Are you a crier? Helena?
Speaker 3: I am a crier. I'm a proud crier, and I
Speaker 3: don't know about you, probably not based on I don't
Speaker 3: know being a man. I don't know. I don't know
Speaker 3: your answer to this. When a movie is about to
Speaker 3: make me cry, I'm like, fuck yeah, and I lean
Speaker 3: in and I like, you know when you kind of
Speaker 3: you're like, oh, I'm right on the precipice, like I'm
Speaker 3: going to get it there to get it, and your
Speaker 3: edging and you're like, they're like here they come, here
Speaker 3: they come, and it like feels so good when a
Speaker 3: movie gets me there, I'm like, baby, baby, here we go.
Speaker 3: And those I have two answers. I have my embarrassing answer,
Speaker 3: it's not embarrassing, and then I have my like cinephile answer.
Speaker 3: But my real answer is the Joe Wright Pride and Prejudice.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, when Matthew McFadden takes Kieran Knightley's hand or
Speaker 3: they don't hold hands and like the sun is rising
Speaker 3: over the misty hill. That was such a beautiful film.
Speaker 3: And that's the one I think the most that made
Speaker 3: me cry. But then the other kind of movies that
Speaker 3: make me cry are war movies, and like guys dying
Speaker 3: in war, especially these world wars were these like kids,
Speaker 3: it just kills me. And the most recent one that
Speaker 3: like made me absolutely lose it was Sam Mendes nineteen
Speaker 3: seventeen where they start out with the two guys that
Speaker 3: like that movie was one was you know, I'm sure
Speaker 3: they obviously didn't do it in one shot, but it
Speaker 3: made it feel like a one or and you think, oh,
Speaker 3: these two guys. You're starting out with these two characters,
Speaker 3: and the best friend dies like a third of the
Speaker 3: way in that little and he's and then he keeps going.
Speaker 3: I like lost it for that. War movies with these
Speaker 3: like young guys dying really gets me because they like
Speaker 3: had to go and it's for like queen and country
Speaker 3: and all or country in our case, but or I
Speaker 3: guess now it's King and country.
Speaker 2: Damn, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 3: Not as nice as a ring, honestly, but is that now?
Speaker 2: It doesn't It doesn't. The song doesn't sound quite as good.
Speaker 2: It's I can't look at if. It's kind of like,
Speaker 2: do you need this song? Mate? Do you know what
Speaker 2: I mean?
Speaker 1: Like it doesn't feel right, does it feel like it's
Speaker 1: his song song? I'm like, God save the King. We
Speaker 1: have a yes, yes, yeah, God save the Queen. And
Speaker 1: now now that's just I'm sort of like, why didn't
Speaker 1: you commission a new song because.
Speaker 3: You're such a brat? God save you? Why?
Speaker 2: Yeah? That's really good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, get anyone?
Speaker 2: What is the film?
Speaker 3: Scared? No? I hate it And there are people that
Speaker 3: are huge fans of horror films and I'm like, absolutely not, No,
Speaker 3: I hate this, And I think this film actually put
Speaker 3: me off horror films because I think it was ninety nine,
Speaker 3: was it ninety one? It was Scream, the first Scream.
Speaker 3: Now it's like it's like you're on Scream eleven or something,
Speaker 3: but like original Scream, and that opening scene with Drew
Speaker 3: Barrymore again a character you think like, oh, this movie's
Speaker 3: gonna be about Drew Barrymore. And then she's hanging in
Speaker 3: the garage and she's in the house on the phone.
Speaker 3: That scared the shit out of me because I used
Speaker 3: to babysit growing up and like around that time, I
Speaker 3: was like heavy in the babysitting rotation. And you're alone
Speaker 3: in a house, you're like a look making popcorn about
Speaker 3: to watch a movie on a rotary phone. I mean
Speaker 3: on a rotary But we did not have style proms
Speaker 3: in my day, and that movie scared the shit out
Speaker 3: of me because it just felt like, oh, that could
Speaker 3: happen to me.
Speaker 1: What is the film that people don't like? It's not
Speaker 1: critically acclaimed, but you love it unconditionally.
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's not it had to have
Speaker 3: been panned. I should have looked up the Rotten Tomatoes.
Speaker 2: It's okay, Okay, I.
Speaker 3: Want to look it up while I'm talking to you.
Speaker 3: Minus Twilight, I think I fucking loved those that had
Speaker 3: to be bad on Rotten Tomatoes.
Speaker 2: I believe so certainly not critically beloved.
Speaker 3: It can't be right. I can't look it up. It's
Speaker 3: too much. I don't want to, like search and be
Speaker 3: talking to you.
Speaker 2: It's disgusting, and you're something You'll pop up in the
Speaker 2: news with you in it and we'll have to stop.
Speaker 3: In print. Yeah, I loved the Twilight saga. I loved
Speaker 3: all three of them. And I remember everybody meaning, like,
Speaker 3: these books fucking suck, and I was like, do they?
Speaker 3: And so I read them just because I was like,
Speaker 3: I wanted to have an opinion on this thing that
Speaker 3: everybody was talking about. And I read the books and
Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, I guess these suck. But damn,
Speaker 3: I see why people love that. I did the same
Speaker 3: thing with Fifty Shades of Gray. I was like, fuck you,
Speaker 3: I'm going to read them. So I read all three.
Speaker 3: You read them.
Speaker 1: I read the first one to understand what was going
Speaker 1: on in the world, and I listen. I talked about
Speaker 1: this a lot, like people who say there's shit, which
Speaker 1: sort of they kind of are, but they're also definitely not,
Speaker 1: because how could there have been such a phenomenon if
Speaker 1: they weren't hitting something very squarely on the head?
Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean? Like?
Speaker 3: And I was like, this is basic, rudimentary reading with
Speaker 3: like hot sex. Of course people like that. They don't
Speaker 3: have to think and you can just like put it
Speaker 3: down real quick, rub it out and keep going. Like,
Speaker 3: no wonder people love these things.
Speaker 2: Makes complete sense to me anyway. Twilight. You love Twilight.
Speaker 3: I like Twilight. I love Twilight. It's one of those
Speaker 3: things you were showing on TV. I'm like, yeah, sure,
Speaker 3: I'll watch Twilight again.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's the film that you did love? You used
Speaker 1: to love it and you watched it again recently and
Speaker 1: you put out I don't like it's no more.
Speaker 3: I don't know that I don't like it anymore. It's
Speaker 3: more like sad that it doesn't hold up. Is that
Speaker 3: what it's supposed to be, that you don't like it anymore?
Speaker 1: Or you're like, ooh, you could be it just doesn't
Speaker 1: hold it. It could be anything you might have changed the
Speaker 1: world has changed. Doesn't mean it's a bad film, just
Speaker 1: something's happened.
Speaker 3: I fucking loved my best friend's wedding, Like I loved
Speaker 3: it so much, and like I remember calling friends after
Speaker 3: it ended when I was in high school being like,
Speaker 3: why doesn't he choose her? Why would he choose Cameron Diaz?
Speaker 3: Like it doesn't make any sense to me, and you know,
Speaker 3: she was obviously the one, And then I watch it
Speaker 3: again and I'm like, you fucking idiot. She like went
Speaker 3: to Sago to break up a relationship that he was
Speaker 3: having with this like young, unassuming girl. The family is
Speaker 3: so nice to you, Like you're being invited to lunches
Speaker 3: and like all this stuff, like you're going to the
Speaker 3: baseball games like everybody, you're going on a ride of
Speaker 3: like the She's just like an awful character and it's
Speaker 3: so crappy And by the end, I was like, ugh, no,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like, when I watched it again,
Speaker 3: have you watched that movie? No?
Speaker 2: Yes, I cut a few years ago. We watched it.
Speaker 2: I think we talked about until Le's where we watched it.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, and she like basically plays this First
Speaker 3: of all, I looked it up to and I don't
Speaker 3: know if this happens to you. When you look up
Speaker 3: old movies, you're like, how old was Julia Roberts when
Speaker 3: she did my best friend's wedding twenty eight twenty c.
Speaker 2: How old was she was pretty woomy.
Speaker 3: Younger than that, she must have been like twenty five
Speaker 3: Christ isn't that insane?
Speaker 2: I'm nothing that is insane?
Speaker 3: So much older than that now? Yeah, so yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: I got to the end of that and I was like,
Speaker 3: my baby is like hysterically crime. Does my husband, Oh.
Speaker 1: Shit, do you need to go and get a baby?
Speaker 1: You can bring the baby on the poot. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: get a baby. We're pro baby.
Speaker 3: It was like literally losing his mind. It's so funny.
Speaker 3: Like everybody asked me, did you bring him to work?
Speaker 3: Did you bring the baby to work with you? I
Speaker 3: was like, are you out of your mind? If I
Speaker 3: hear him, I have a lobotomy, Like my brain literally
Speaker 3: shuts down. I stop functioning, and I see people bringing
Speaker 3: their kids to work and I'm like, how the fuck
Speaker 3: do you do that. I don't know why you do that.
Speaker 3: I just like, it's like a totally separate part of
Speaker 3: my lizard brain. It's so bizarre. Okay, I was talking
Speaker 3: about my best friend's wedding. She's like, a successful restaurant
Speaker 3: critic at twenty eight. Doesn't make any fucking sense. To
Speaker 3: be a successful restaurant critic, you have to have like
Speaker 3: known restaurants and been in the food world for a
Speaker 3: long time. Like, you're not a successful restaurant critic. She goes,
Speaker 3: I'm really mad about this movie now, Like it's disgusting
Speaker 3: that I was on her side. I can't believe they duped.
Speaker 3: Like I can't remember how old I was me into
Speaker 3: thinking like, oh, yeah, we're really rooting for Julia Roberts.
Speaker 3: But maybe they weren't. Maybe I was just like dumb
Speaker 3: and young. But anyway, I watched that movie again and damn,
Speaker 3: but you know it was great at that is Rupert
Speaker 3: Everett is amazing.
Speaker 1: It so great in it? What is the film that
Speaker 1: means the most to you, Helena. Not necessarily the film
Speaker 1: itself is any good, but the experience you had around
Speaker 1: seeing it will always make it special to you.
Speaker 3: Oh are you talking about I got this question out
Speaker 3: of time, and I thought it was a film you
Speaker 3: loved because it was like a formative to you. Is
Speaker 3: that what you mean?
Speaker 1: I mean, like the actual let's say it was the
Speaker 1: first date you had with your husband, that sort of
Speaker 1: things like when I saw this film, this happened, and
Speaker 1: it will always mean something to me because of the
Speaker 1: whole thing around seeing the film.
Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, so my answer still stands, And that movie
Speaker 3: is josh A Redemption.
Speaker 2: Great. It's a very good, famously very good film, famously.
Speaker 3: Very good film that I barely watched because I was
Speaker 3: with my first love. We were in high school and
Speaker 3: he was like a cinophile. His name's his name, his
Speaker 3: name was. He's alive. His name is Niles Cook. He's married,
Speaker 3: he has three kids, he lives in Portland. He's like
Speaker 3: a therapist now. And I was so in love with him,
Speaker 3: and we fell in love in like the purest way,
Speaker 3: by passing notes during English class. And he was so
Speaker 3: like bitingly clever and funny and like maybe not like
Speaker 3: the hottest guy in the world, but didn't matter because
Speaker 3: he was like so smart and funny, do you know
Speaker 3: what I mean? And it was like the first time.
Speaker 3: I like, it wasn't like now we text and whatever.
Speaker 3: And when you're like dating somebody new, you're like are
Speaker 3: they a good texter? Like are they funny? Over text?
Speaker 3: And it was literally past notes during an English class
Speaker 3: and I just loved him. And he was dating this
Speaker 3: like soccer hot shot at the school at the time,
Speaker 3: sorry football and exactly anyway, and so it was not
Speaker 3: meant to be. But then they broke up at the
Speaker 3: end of senior year and he was like, my favorite
Speaker 3: movie is Shawshank Redemption. And I was like I really
Speaker 3: wanted to be cool and care about Shawshank Redemption, and
Speaker 3: so I like went over to his house and it
Speaker 3: was like my first It was funny though, because we
Speaker 3: did watch it, but it was like the anticipation of
Speaker 3: hooking up during all of Shawshank Redemption. Imagine that, imagine
Speaker 3: watching and.
Speaker 2: So much got a kiss on this film? So oh
Speaker 2: why did we get a kiss? Yes?
Speaker 3: And we ended up making out at the very end.
Speaker 3: I think I missed the end, but it was like
Speaker 3: you know, it was like my first hookup and I
Speaker 3: think about it all the time. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Was he a good kiss? Oh?
Speaker 3: He was great. He was the greatest. He even texted
Speaker 3: me recently this is amazing. I got a text from him.
Speaker 3: I had just had a new baby, and I was like,
Speaker 3: you know, in the eyes of hell. And he texted
Speaker 3: me and he's like, I had a dream about you
Speaker 3: last night, and you know exactly what that means. And
Speaker 3: I was like, exactly what I needed to hear in
Speaker 3: this moment. And he is a family and I have
Speaker 3: a family. But yeah, like twenty years later, he's like,
Speaker 3: I had a dream about you and I was like, fuck. Yeah.
Speaker 2: We were in prison. Morgan Freeman was there. We were kissing.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
Speaker 3: You don't know what I mean, Shasha Redemption. It's a
Speaker 3: great movie. I had to watch it again to be like,
Speaker 3: what is this movie?
Speaker 2: And I was like, damn, oh he does get out?
Speaker 2: What is the film?
Speaker 3: You must relate to Elena your Bridgie Jones diary. Does
Speaker 3: anybody say that? I can't believe that's not on.
Speaker 1: The list of amazing. No one said that. No one
Speaker 1: said that, And now you say, I'm like, amazing, no
Speaker 1: one said that for the sense, I can't believe no
Speaker 1: when they say that. Also, how was nobody saying the
Speaker 1: Little Mermaid?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 3: Great? Yeah Bridge Jones's diary. It came out when I
Speaker 3: was in high school. Yeah, I was in high school
Speaker 3: and I had read the book and I loved the book,
Speaker 3: and I was so excited about the film. And I'm
Speaker 3: really sorry an American played her for all British people. However,
Speaker 3: now only British people play Americans.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, it's fair.
Speaker 3: They're like, where do we find a hot straight guy?
Speaker 3: I guess Australia or England. Make them bang through an
Speaker 3: accent real quick. I loved it. She was such a
Speaker 3: mess and she was in love with like the two
Speaker 3: guys that I was always in love with, because it
Speaker 3: was Colin Firth from the original Pride and Prejudice, which
Speaker 3: I'm a fan of all Pride and Prejudices, but it
Speaker 3: is the Joe Roe one that makes me cry. And
Speaker 3: then Hugh Grant, who was speaking of Jane Austen in
Speaker 3: sense and sensibility and was so hot and good in
Speaker 3: that and in everything and anyway. Oh, I was like, God,
Speaker 3: she lives in this like little apartment, she's always dieting,
Speaker 3: and then you know, falls in love with the wrong
Speaker 3: guy and basically it was Pride and Prejudice and I
Speaker 3: loved and I was like, how funny the Big House
Speaker 3: coin for that's crazy Pride and prejudice and prime and
Speaker 3: prejudice again basically, you know, so stupid, and like that's
Speaker 3: one that I had the DVD. I would like put
Speaker 3: on time time.
Speaker 2: I love that movie, said this new one.
Speaker 1: I love the sequel wildly underwrite Edge of Edge of
Speaker 1: reasoned the Edge of Reason.
Speaker 3: But then that should be your answer for like something
Speaker 3: that's not critically acclaimed that you love.
Speaker 2: That's a that's a great answer to that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we can answer that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, big sequence where she does mushrooms, big secrets, US
Speaker 1: did a women's prison. It's funny, that's right, big big
Speaker 1: funny stuff in it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we watched. Yeah, you're right. It isn't it right?
Speaker 3: I forgot she gets like she ends up in a
Speaker 3: tie prison or something. Yeah, and like is there for
Speaker 3: months and her like ex boyfriend has to get her out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they really go for it.
Speaker 3: I think what I was more annoyed at is that,
Speaker 3: like I'm a big fan, like I'm very basic. And
Speaker 3: then I'm like, give me my happy ending baby. And
Speaker 3: then the sequel revealed that they broke up, and I
Speaker 3: was like, I'm out. I was really mad that they broke.
Speaker 1: Up, right, Yeah, what is the film that you thought
Speaker 1: was the sexy was the sexiest?
Speaker 3: Okay, this border's on porn. This movie it came out
Speaker 3: in nineteen ninety eight and it was called Dangerous Beauty
Speaker 3: and it was with horlick. No, no, no, that's is
Speaker 3: it dangerous? Yeah, dangerous beauty not American Beauty. That's not
Speaker 3: liv Tyler.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, that's not go on, tell me dangerous beauty.
Speaker 3: Katherine McCormick rufus Suell. Is that how you say?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: And she plays a courtisan in like Venice or something,
Speaker 3: and she like has all these you know, like pope
Speaker 3: clients and shit. And he's like a sexy guy who
Speaker 3: falls in love with her and ends up having to
Speaker 3: marry like a sensible girl, and they stay in love
Speaker 3: and they the sex scenes are so unbelievable and so romantic.
Speaker 3: It was such a sexy movie. You should go watch it.
Speaker 3: It has It is not well ranged. I looked it up.
Speaker 3: It is not well loved and was not well loved
Speaker 3: at the time, and I do not understand why. What
Speaker 3: is psychotomy is also that I'm like, you did not
Speaker 3: make this for thirteen year olds, and yet it felt
Speaker 3: that it was made for me at that time in
Speaker 3: my sexual awakening. And maybe that's why I have such
Speaker 3: like a firm memory of that being the sexiest movie ever.
Speaker 2: But it was.
Speaker 3: I mean, they're like, you know, it's like satin sheets
Speaker 3: and she's a courtisan, she knows all this stuff about sex,
Speaker 3: and she's really sexy, and she falls in love with him,
Speaker 3: and like having to do her courtisan thing with like
Speaker 3: these gross dudes becomes like a little bit more difficult
Speaker 3: for her. It's so hot, and he's I think he's
Speaker 3: such a good actor and he's so good. I feel
Speaker 3: like I'm selling it to you because you are sitting
Speaker 3: back being like, bitch, why don't know?
Speaker 1: No, no, no, you really I'm like annoyed I haven't
Speaker 1: seen it because it says right everything you'll describe it like,
Speaker 1: oh my.
Speaker 3: God, and it's like and then there's this I like,
Speaker 3: it's like burned in my brain, this like guy who's
Speaker 3: a cardinal and gets like carried in and you're like,
Speaker 3: oh god, these Catholic guys are such so fucked up
Speaker 3: and like they were having tons of sex with courtisans.
Speaker 3: I think it's called a courtisan if you're no courtism,
Speaker 3: courtisan whatever point is hot fucking movie.
Speaker 1: All right, dangerous it is. But there's a sub category
Speaker 1: to this question traveling by and is worrying why dunes
Speaker 1: a pil found arousing?
Speaker 2: You went? Sure, you shit.
Speaker 3: I feel very much that all of your questions are
Speaker 3: a how old are you Helena York? And like b
Speaker 3: when did you go through peparty? Because if you years
Speaker 3: stamp any of these, it's like, okay, that hits like
Speaker 3: right right at that point of your ADOLESCA when.
Speaker 1: Did you and when did you hit puberty? That's that's
Speaker 1: really what right?
Speaker 3: That's really the question is like, yeah, you're like basically
Speaker 3: my doctor mine is a center a pet detective.
Speaker 2: Extraordinary.
Speaker 3: This sex scene with him and Courtney Cox in that
Speaker 3: movie is to like eat And it starts with like
Speaker 3: a headboard baying against the thing and like all the
Speaker 3: animals are watching them, and I think it was like
Speaker 3: a hard cut, like they're building tension between those two
Speaker 3: characters the whole time, and then they finally get it
Speaker 3: on and yeah, that's when I was discovering masturbation, and
Speaker 3: I that's what I was. You're a puberty doctor, and
Speaker 3: that's really.
Speaker 2: The one brilliant hasn't come up. Brilliant.
Speaker 3: I'm shocked. I'm shocked that hasn't come up. A second
Speaker 3: from Aspender, a pet detective. What do people say, like,
Speaker 3: what is a common answer for that? That's not supposed.
Speaker 1: Really common answer would be one's answer, perhaps you know?
Speaker 1: An often common answer is oh, I don't know, And
Speaker 1: I always think.
Speaker 3: You fucking know, people say I don't know?
Speaker 1: Yeah, people, some people, not many, but there are, let's say,
Speaker 1: people who dodge the question in a way that I
Speaker 1: find disturbing and very revealing.
Speaker 3: I just told you that that's when I'm discovering masturbation.
Speaker 3: So I'm the opposite of that problem. And again something
Speaker 3: that would look troubling in print. The themes.
Speaker 2: Objectively objectively, what's the greatest film of all time? Might
Speaker 2: not be your favorite?
Speaker 3: It's the greatest, it's it's a wonderful life.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, okay, what what is the film that you
Speaker 1: could or have? What's the mist iver? And over again, brig.
Speaker 3: John's diary is it. Yeah, I'm surprised that, Like, I'm
Speaker 3: surprised that what's the most most like that most like you?
Speaker 3: And that isn't usually the same answer. It was. It
Speaker 3: came out at a time when I was like becoming
Speaker 3: an adult, and it was about this adult woman that
Speaker 3: didn't have it all together. And I was a teenager,
Speaker 3: so of course I didn't have it all together, and
Speaker 3: it just like it was like a warm blanket. It
Speaker 3: made me feel like it was okay to be like
Speaker 3: kind of off, and so I just watched it over
Speaker 3: and over and over again. I loved it.
Speaker 2: I love that. Let's not be too dark about this,
Speaker 2: but what's the worst film you've ever seen?
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm surprised people have answers, because like, why would
Speaker 3: you even continue watching the worst movie you've ever seen?
Speaker 3: And the only reason you would continue watching the worst
Speaker 3: movie you've ever seen is if you went to the premiere.
Speaker 2: I mean I could give an answ You went to
Speaker 2: the premier and you're in it, so you have to
Speaker 2: so you have one of those what what is it?
Speaker 3: It's Cosmopolis? It was that Rob Pattinson had just done Yeah,
Speaker 3: and he had just done and he's a brilliant artist
Speaker 3: Rob Pattinson, and he had just gotten done doing the
Speaker 3: shitty Twilight Soga, which I love. But I think he
Speaker 3: was like, I'm an artist. I want to be an artist,
Speaker 3: and good for him. It did what it needed to do.
Speaker 3: He's doing so many amazing films now. But he did
Speaker 3: this movie Cosmopolis, and I fucking hated.
Speaker 2: It and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: I think the entire movie is him in a limo.
Speaker 3: It's like trying to do American Psycho, but he's just
Speaker 3: in that limo. And then people like good actors and
Speaker 3: or and like sometimes he gets out of the limit
Speaker 3: to get coffee or whatever, but for the most part,
Speaker 3: he's just in that limo. I finely, no, And I
Speaker 3: was like all of the first premieres I ever went
Speaker 3: to and I was like, I'm at a premiere. I
Speaker 3: can't you can't leave. And it was a MoMA so
Speaker 3: it was in that basement movie theater.
Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, what did you say afterwards? I was with them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think people from I think he was there. No,
Speaker 3: I think I left with my friend who invited me
Speaker 3: to go with her, and I was like just assumed
Speaker 3: that it had a premiere and I was there and
Speaker 3: I was like, this is good. This is supposed to
Speaker 3: be good. I'm supposed to like this. And I left
Speaker 3: and I was like, that's bad, right. She was like
Speaker 3: I didn't like it, but again like I don't. I
Speaker 3: don't want us to talk disparagingly about that movie. And I
Speaker 3: also think as an actor that was the smart thing
Speaker 3: for him to be doing at that time. I'm listen
Speaker 3: to me backpedal and like, panic.
Speaker 1: Yes, it's at it quiet taste. I don'tely it's a
Speaker 1: bad film, but I do think it's in it. It's
Speaker 1: not the easiest film, and I can totally get why
Speaker 1: a lot of people might not enjoy it.
Speaker 2: I don't that's a crime.
Speaker 3: I wonder if I watched it again, if I would
Speaker 3: like appreciate what it was from like an art standpoint.
Speaker 3: Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Am I going to make you do? That?
Speaker 3: Sends an email like you know what? Bruh I do?
Speaker 3: And I can see it. It's beautiful. You know what,
Speaker 3: it's beautiful. It's actually really beautiful.
Speaker 1: You're in comedy, you're very funny. What's the film that
Speaker 1: made you laugh the most?
Speaker 2: God?
Speaker 3: It's really said all of my answers are British.
Speaker 2: We know it wasn't a Spenturia. It was too busy
Speaker 2: rubbing yourself off to laugh in that one.
Speaker 3: It is a Spentura, but I exactly, But I already
Speaker 3: answered a Spentura for a sexiest so I really didn't
Speaker 3: need to change my awer. And so my answer for
Speaker 3: made me laugh the most is Austin Powers. The first
Speaker 3: Austin Powers. Yes, it's so fucking funny, so fucking funny,
Speaker 3: and like all the subsequent ones whatever, also so fucking funny, funny,
Speaker 3: dangers my middle so good. Those are so good. That one,
Speaker 3: Oh I fell, Oh I fell over again.
Speaker 2: It doesn't hold up.
Speaker 3: But is basically assault, but I loved it.
Speaker 1: Please, no one printing out this interview. Helena, you're when
Speaker 1: you I've very much enjoyed talking to you.
Speaker 2: Bit of delight.
Speaker 1: However, when you finished your living will with your husband,
Speaker 1: you were like, I feel good about this. The person
Speaker 1: that you left your baby too heard the good news. Oh,
Speaker 1: one day I'll be looking after that baby. But you've
Speaker 1: got a real cute baby, and that person was like,
Speaker 1: I need to end her life. Immediately, bought a little
Speaker 1: sushi lunch, headed off on their electric bike. Knew where
Speaker 1: you walk around Prospect Park West, She'll be just wandering
Speaker 1: around there, just going up and down on the electric
Speaker 1: bike every stop, just had a little bit of sushi,
Speaker 1: would go back and back and forth, and then saw
Speaker 1: you coming. They were like, there she is. There, she
Speaker 1: fucking is the mother of that baby I'm going to
Speaker 1: steal and ran saw you crossing the road, went straight
Speaker 1: towards you, knocks her over your head, hit the road,
Speaker 1: and naturally you were fine. And then a truck went
Speaker 1: straight over your end.
Speaker 3: That's like the end of them. That reminds me of mom.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry. Mean girls. When she's like gets hit by
Speaker 3: the truck, she's like and Rachel mcadims' is just like
Speaker 3: screaming at her and she just gets plowed by the
Speaker 3: truck and then ends up with that neck bracelet. Prom
Speaker 3: such a good moment in a movie. Oh my god,
Speaker 3: is that good film?
Speaker 2: Great film?
Speaker 1: I'm walking along with a coffin, you know what I'm like,
Speaker 1: And I go, I see the person that he's now
Speaker 1: walking around here, or she's now walking around Were they
Speaker 1: with a baby?
Speaker 2: Very happy? I go and.
Speaker 1: Then yours baby and it's no baby now, and I go,
Speaker 1: all right, Okay, Oh, that would explain the body over there.
Speaker 1: Go over and go fucking know there's yes, there's loads
Speaker 1: of the other two fans around there, crying, crying, get
Speaker 1: out the way. Let's deal with this. I get your
Speaker 1: body into the coffin. Your head is absolutely splattered like
Speaker 1: a watermelon, and it's right into the tarmac.
Speaker 2: So I'm having to get my.
Speaker 1: God get bits of chucking the bits of you into
Speaker 1: the coffin. Now there's more of you than I was expecting,
Speaker 1: what with all the tarmac and the bits of sushi
Speaker 1: you jammed in there. There's only enough room to slide
Speaker 1: the DVD into the side with you for you to
Speaker 1: take across to the other side. And on the other side,
Speaker 1: it's movie night every night. What film are you taking
Speaker 1: to show the cheese people in heaven when it's your night.
Speaker 3: I was disgusting. Any body is found chopped up and dead,
Speaker 3: they know it was you. Okay, well you did say
Speaker 3: a DVD and it's not a film, but to me
Speaker 3: it might as well be Cinde ma, and it is
Speaker 3: a DVD. The god I would just get drunk and
Speaker 3: like pop in an actual Blu ray disc and it is.
Speaker 3: It's not a film, so I guess it's off podcast topic,
Speaker 3: but it is Adele live at Royal Albert Hall.
Speaker 2: That is very funny. I did say DVD.
Speaker 3: You said DVD. I know that this is a film podcast.
Speaker 3: I could simply could not. I could not pump Bridget
Speaker 3: Jones any more than I already have, which.
Speaker 1: I guess we know that that would be. But you're
Speaker 1: taking it down, and you know what, it's a very cinematic.
Speaker 1: Why it is that moving?
Speaker 3: I want to hear I feel like something insane like
Speaker 3: Sam Mendez directed concert or something. Yeah, it was something
Speaker 3: crazy like that.
Speaker 2: I was it might.
Speaker 3: Be honestly, might be.
Speaker 2: He does.
Speaker 3: He does stuff like that sometimes randomly anyways, But and
Speaker 3: it's before she was super huge. It was after the
Speaker 3: first album. It's a great concert and a great DV.
Speaker 2: I'm just checking who directed that, just to be sure,
Speaker 2: and the answer is, of course pull Doug Dale.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, thanks Paul Elena.
Speaker 1: You have been a trait, a delight, a wonderful, brilliant time.
Speaker 1: Thank you for doing this. Would you like to tell
Speaker 1: anyone to listen or watch things you have coming up?
Speaker 2: What are they just.
Speaker 3: Watch the other two? Watch it until you die?
Speaker 2: Bitch it.
Speaker 3: If you haven't watched it, start from the beginning, you
Speaker 3: won't regret it. It does not take time to get
Speaker 3: into it. It's also so funny, you know how your
Speaker 3: friends you're like, oh, yeah, my friends, I need them
Speaker 3: to watch and see the things I do to support me.
Speaker 3: But whenever I'm in something bad, I'm like, you don't
Speaker 3: have to fucking watch that. This is one where I'm like,
Speaker 3: just watch it. You'll enjoy it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so nice to do exactly. You're like, no,
Speaker 1: you'll actually like this. This isn't you do me a
Speaker 1: favorite this? You'll enjoy this.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I had somebody, Yeah.
Speaker 3: I had somebody recently make me to a play that
Speaker 3: they were in that I was like, this is bad.
Speaker 3: You should have known that it would. Don't make me
Speaker 3: come to that.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, don't see the stuff that I did. That's not great,
Speaker 3: but this is great.
Speaker 2: The other two I agree. You should watch the other
Speaker 2: two and any York thank you having a wonderful death.
Speaker 3: Thanks to you as well.
Speaker 1: So that was episode two hundred and fifty five. Head
Speaker 1: over to the Patreon at patreon dot com forward slash
Speaker 1: Brett Goldstein for the extra twenty minutes of chat, secrets
Speaker 1: and video with Helena. Remember to watch Shrinking and Ted
Speaker 1: Lasso on Apple TV Plus. We are taking a break
Speaker 1: from new episodes for a month, but there will be
Speaker 1: Rewind Classics in the meantime. We'll be back August ninth
Speaker 1: with a bang Into Partner. Thank you all for listening.
Speaker 1: I really hope you're well. Thank you so much to
Speaker 1: Helena for being so brilliant on this. Thanks to Scrubi's
Speaker 1: pipp and the Distraction Pieces Network. Thanks to Buddy Peace
Speaker 1: for producing it. Thanks to iHeartMedia and Will Ferrell's Big
Speaker 1: Money Players Network for hosting it. Thanks to Adam Richardson
Speaker 1: for the graphics and leads, allay Them for the photography,
Speaker 1: and you will listening. Come join me next week for
Speaker 1: an amazing Rewind classic. Thank you very much everyone. So
Speaker 1: that is it for now. In the meantime, have a
Speaker 1: lovely week and please be excellent to each other.