1 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 1: Hey guys, welcome through another week of Casual Chaos. This week, 2 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: I have a super exciting guest. This is a long 3 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 1: time coming. Allie Louver, Welcome to Casual Chaos. 4 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 2: Hello, thank you for having me. 5 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining Worse Night. So you've 6 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: been through a lot. 7 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great place to start. Through a lot, 8 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 2: just a lot, just a lot. 9 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, this year has definitely been heavy. I was just 10 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 3: thinking about it this morning. I was doing like a 11 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 3: little journaling because you know, I'm in my healing era, 12 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 3: and I was just like thinking back to January and 13 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 3: it feels like a lifetime ago. 14 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 2: I'm like, damn, yeah, I've been through a lot. This 15 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:42,520 Speaker 2: has been an insane year. 16 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:45,840 Speaker 1: So it was kind of been like a crazy six 17 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 1: months just kind of reflecting and kind of trying to 18 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: get your groove back. I guess, like. 19 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 3: A completely refresh, a completely new chapter, you know, Like 20 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 3: obviously breaking up with James, Like going through a breakup 21 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 3: is hard enough, but then it's like you got to 22 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 3: move out and find a new place to live, which 23 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:08,679 Speaker 3: is not ever easy, like in a big city. 24 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:12,680 Speaker 2: Together too. We had a dog that was honestly the 25 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:16,399 Speaker 2: hardest part. It was hippie. Yeah that was hard. I 26 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 2: slept with like a stuffed golden doodle for like three months. 27 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 1: Oh it was his, It was his. 28 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 3: And you know what makes it easier is that, like 29 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 3: they are literally soulmates. I believe like James and that 30 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 3: dog are. We're always like destined to be. 31 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 2: Together and they're very like, I don't know. 32 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 3: They just have fun, you know, and they like walk 33 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 3: all the time, and he'll like go rollerblading with him, 34 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 3: and he takes great care of him. 35 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 2: So like that makes me feel good. 36 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 3: I just missed being better now or so much happier 37 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 3: because my cats did not like the. 38 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: Dog, so okay, so it was like a good separation 39 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: for the cats at least exactly. 40 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 2: My therapist is like, anytime you miss hippie, like look 41 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 2: at your cats and like that works really well. 42 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, like because how cats were with me first. 43 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 3: Exactly, and now they can like come out and not 44 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 3: be scared of like this big annoying dog. 45 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,919 Speaker 1: You're really into astrology, right, Yes, I believe in it. 46 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: I because whenever I read anything about my Capricorn aura 47 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: and what's going on with me like that month or 48 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: that week, I'm like, yeah, you're pretty much nailing it 49 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: right on the head right now. 50 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 3: You have to come on my podcast and I'll do 51 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 3: your bird chart because that's what I do. I just 52 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 3: do like people's bird charts on it. And it goes 53 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 3: so much more deep than just our sun sign. There's 54 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:43,959 Speaker 3: like the rising in the moon, and then there's Mercury, 55 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:46,239 Speaker 3: which is like how we communicate, and there's Mars, which 56 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 3: is like how we fight. 57 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:49,279 Speaker 2: So there's all these different planet. 58 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: I love to write all of these things about me 59 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 1: and have you dissect everything about January eighth. 60 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 2: Yes, we will do it. We have to do it always. 61 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:01,519 Speaker 1: That's awesome. And how do you like find out each 62 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:03,799 Speaker 1: one of these pieces basically because it's kind of like 63 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:04,239 Speaker 1: a puzzle. 64 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 2: It's totally a puzzle. 65 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 3: You need your main birthday, your birth time, so like 66 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 3: the exact birth time, which you can find and like 67 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 3: your birth certificate or if there's any like you know, 68 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 3: baby announcement cards like that. Yeah, so ask your mother. 69 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 3: We need the birth time and then location, so where 70 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 3: you were. 71 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: Born okay, Okay, I know location okay, and then you 72 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: can figure it out all from there, well a software. 73 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 1: It's not me. 74 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 4: I'm not like an actual scientist, but you plug it 75 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 4: into a software and then it pulls up your entire chart, 76 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 4: which is amazing because back in the day, astrologery'd have 77 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 4: to calculate it like by hand. 78 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so cool. I love how you're fully like no, no, no, yeah. 79 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 2: No, no no. I wouldn't have been able to be an 80 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 2: astrologery back then. 81 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 3: No, but I can read the chart when the software 82 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 3: pulls it up, and then it's just I call it 83 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 3: like our cosmic blueprint for life because it has so 84 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 3: much from like early childhood to our destiny and. 85 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:07,119 Speaker 2: Like where we're meant to go in life. So it's fun. 86 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 1: I love that. I feel, you know, even with psychics 87 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: and stuff like that, I'm very open to it and 88 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: very open to exploring it and hearing what they have 89 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 1: to say. Oh my god, my mom can be really 90 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: bad with the psychics, and I'm like, Mom, we need 91 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 1: to take it day by day. Yeah, and let the 92 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: weeks pass, Okay, psychic every once in a while, totally fine, 93 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: psychic every week, not doing anything for you, right, because. 94 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 3: Then it's like, yeah, we have to trust our own 95 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 3: and we're all psychic, they say, we all have that 96 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 3: ability to guide ourselves. 97 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:50,479 Speaker 2: But you know, it's not as natural. 98 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: For some of us because especially when you're just hearing 99 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 1: all this information constantly, then I feel like your brain 100 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 1: literally becomes clouded because you're anticipating so much to have 101 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 1: but not actually allowing it to happen. I don't know, And. 102 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 3: Then it's like, are you allowing someone else to manifest 103 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 3: you know, something that was never going to happen, but 104 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 3: then because they said it, you're thinking about it, and 105 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:14,919 Speaker 3: then thoughts become real, you know. 106 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 2: So I will see psychics now if. 107 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 3: I really feel like I need an answer, or if 108 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 3: I just am like with friends and it's kind of 109 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 3: like whatever, there's one like let's go in. So I 110 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 3: would just say like, if you feel called, do it, 111 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:32,160 Speaker 3: but don't be so. And even with astrology, I say 112 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 3: the same thing, like you don't have to get a 113 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 3: reading if you're good and you're aligned and life is great, 114 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,159 Speaker 3: and if you want to know a little bit about yourself, sure, 115 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:42,039 Speaker 3: but like if you feel called, if you feel lost. 116 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 2: Or like what's my purpose or how can I relate 117 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 2: better to. 118 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 1: X, Y and Z. 119 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 3: It's a really helpful tool for like when you need 120 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 3: a little a little guidance. 121 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: I feel like it's a mood booster too, though, I 122 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:56,919 Speaker 1: mean hopefully yeah, I mean, I know some negative things 123 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 1: could come, but you know, hopefully all pause it keep. 124 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 3: It positive because I'm always like the thing about astrology 125 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 3: is it's like it's all duality, and it's like there's 126 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 3: good and bad to every sign. 127 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:08,720 Speaker 2: So it's like you might as well put the good 128 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 2: energy out there. 129 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 3: But of course there's always gonna be like rainy days, 130 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 3: I say, where the astrology is not the best, like 131 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 3: tomorrow mercury goes retrograde. 132 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 2: A lot of people fear that. 133 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 1: Hear that all the time. I'm ready, that's just terrible. 134 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: And then I don't even know what was happening. Oh 135 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 1: my god. I was down the shore this past weekend 136 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 1: and I'm like standing there and I hadn't even had 137 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 1: a drink before the bar, absolutely nothing, And all of 138 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 1: a sudden, I like just like tip over a little bit, 139 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 1: and the woman like looks at me and was like, 140 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 1: are you okay? I was like, I'm so sorry, Like 141 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: my equilibrium is so off right now. And I did 142 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 1: not even have a drink or a sim of alcohol yet. 143 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: I am just I don't know what's going on today. 144 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 1: And she goes it's the full moon. 145 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:58,359 Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, I was gonna say if it was last 146 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 5: week that the energy also so Uranus shifted into gem 147 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 5: and I like astrology of the past week and this 148 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 5: week is crazy. 149 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 2: So yeah, I was slaying all the stars. 150 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: She said that, I go, it's a full moon. 151 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 2: Here we go. 152 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's go back to the beginning for any of 153 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: the viewers who don't know. So, how did you meet James? 154 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: Like when did you guys make it official? 155 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 3: We met at a club in Calabasas area, Tom Sandibal actually, 156 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 3: like his band was performing and one of my friends 157 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 3: does like content creation, and so we were backstage. I 158 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 3: was helping my friend and we were just hanging out. 159 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 3: James came up, introduced himself and it was just like 160 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 3: immediate chemistry and yeah, then we just kind of like 161 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 3: hung out like every day after that, started traveling together. 162 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 3: It was like a whirlwind romance for sure. Moved in 163 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 3: together pretty quickly. 164 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, all the things. 165 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: Do you feel like it was love bombing in a way? 166 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 2: You know what's crazy? I really don't. And I think 167 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 2: that this. 168 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 3: Is where this is where my astrology brain and like 169 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 3: my realist or like my astrology brain versus like, I 170 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 3: don't know it. So I've seen his chart and he's 171 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 3: just a lover and he's always been away. He's that 172 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 3: way with his family, he's that way with his friends. 173 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: And I've heard that too. My mom has met him, 174 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 1: and she told me that you guys have met, and 175 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 1: she was like, yeah, oh my god. Like at the 176 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 1: time when you guys were dating, she was like, here's 177 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: a girlfriend. Is just the cutest ever, And she could 178 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: tell that you guys were genuinely just really sweet, happy people. 179 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 1: And even my stepdad had nothing but great things to 180 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 1: say about the both of you. 181 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 2: Ohso that is so sweet. No, we rep Bravo Khan 182 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:45,719 Speaker 2: and we were doing like a couple's panel. It was 183 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 2: so fun. 184 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 3: I remember like doing their astrology like she's a chorus, 185 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 3: I think, right, Yeah, we had so much fun and 186 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 3: they were amazing as well. Yeah, James is a total lover. 187 00:08:56,440 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 3: I'm more capricorn, so I'm a little more like user. 188 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 2: Like not into PDA as much. 189 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 3: But he was always I wouldn't say it was love 190 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:09,959 Speaker 3: bombing because he followed through with everything that he would say. 191 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 3: You know, It's not like he would like say all 192 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 3: of these things and then pull back I really don't 193 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 3: have any regrets, which sounds weird, and maybe that's like 194 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 3: my delusion. 195 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:21,199 Speaker 1: I feel that though, Yeah, if you don't want to 196 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 1: regret anything that you've ever went through in your life, 197 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 1: you just want to learn from it and move on. 198 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 2: And I did truly love him. 199 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 3: I really did think at times in our relationship like, oh, 200 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:32,199 Speaker 3: this is my person. 201 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 2: I could see us having kids together. 202 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 3: But then I think his like his anger issues were 203 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 3: always that, you know, our relationship would be like ninety 204 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:44,959 Speaker 3: nine percent grade, and then that one percent would come 205 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 3: out every now and then and be a little like, 206 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 3: you know, a red flag where it's like, Okay, it's 207 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 3: just sad. But I'm happy that he's still sober and 208 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 3: he's done a bunch of programs so I've heard and things, 209 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 3: and he is a great person. 210 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 2: He just has, you know, some wounds, but I wish 211 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:03,679 Speaker 2: him the best. 212 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 1: Did you watch the show when James was dating no people? 213 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 3: So I saw the first two to three seasons, and 214 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 3: I forget. I think James maybe joined three or four. 215 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 1: I was binge watching vander Pump. Actually I always knew 216 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 1: the end drama of vander Pump obviously, you know, like 217 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: Arianna and Tom Sandibal, the whole breakout, like everyone knew 218 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 1: about it. Then you and James had broken up. There 219 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: was a lot of drama towards the end, which was 220 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 1: very public, and it was like you couldn't not hear 221 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: about it. In a way, I wanted to know the 222 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: lead up and I was so interested in it. So 223 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: then I have to get back into it because I've 224 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:52,959 Speaker 1: been traveling for work too. But I made it up 225 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: to when James joined vander Pump and it was like 226 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 1: him and La La like best for riend. Yeah tag yeah, 227 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 1: oh god. 228 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 3: See, like I could not go back and watch it 229 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 3: obviously when we started dating. But you know, in the 230 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 3: comment section, they don't matter. I don't know who they are, 231 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:15,079 Speaker 3: but like they would say things like, oh she was 232 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 3: a fan of the show or whatever, and it's like, I. 233 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 2: Don't live under Rock, I literally live in La. I 234 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 2: like Reality TV. 235 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 3: It's a reality show based off of LA It was 236 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 3: COVID at the time, and Reality TV at that time 237 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 3: felt like, you know, we had friends that we were 238 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 3: with or something. 239 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 1: I also just think in general, reality TV is so relatable. 240 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:42,719 Speaker 1: I love watching reality TV. I mean, yeah, I'm I'm 241 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 1: a fan. Love watching the Kardashians like Love Island, watch 242 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 1: all of Love Island. 243 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:52,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's like why can't we like support? 244 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 3: But I never would say like I was a fan 245 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 3: of the show in a sense where like I never 246 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:59,319 Speaker 3: had an intention where I think that's where people. 247 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 2: Think like, oh, did you like go to meet him? 248 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 3: And it's like I wish like I had a like 249 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 3: a story like that, but no, I don't. It was 250 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 3: totally what is the word organic unexpected. I had just 251 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:15,559 Speaker 3: kind of gotten out of a relationship too. I wasn't 252 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 3: looking for any anything, but I love the way that 253 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 3: we met. It was actually a really cute story and 254 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 3: it happened and anyway, But I had seen some episodes 255 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:31,079 Speaker 3: and I definitely knew of his character type. 256 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 2: His persona, I guess. So I also was a little 257 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 2: like cautious. 258 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:38,719 Speaker 3: Going in to the relationship, even though it happened so 259 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 3: quickly and maybe it didn't seem like it. 260 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 2: I was very like, we need to slow down. 261 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 3: We kind of did it, but if it was up 262 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 3: to him, we probably would have moved in. 263 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 1: Like day two, me and my boyfriend are six years deep, 264 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 1: and I'm like, what is this happening, babe? No way, really, 265 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 1: we started dating when we were nineteen in and I 266 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 1: was at Ruckers University, so there for four years and 267 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:05,439 Speaker 1: then I graduated two years ago. I've been living home. 268 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: Now I'm making my move, which I'm excited about, just 269 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 1: to be closer to the city for work. It's mainly 270 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 1: just for me during the week to not have to 271 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 1: like deal with the traffic go back and forth. 272 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:20,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't imagine. 273 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 3: It would be like the best of both worlds if 274 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 3: you could have like one, you know, one place there, 275 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 3: one place there. 276 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 1: Literally. 277 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 3: I liked living with the boy I used to be 278 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 3: before James. I was like, I could never imagine living 279 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 3: with the boy like ew, and it was great. He 280 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 3: cooked and I feel like as long as they have 281 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 3: like skills that they're good at, it's actually really fun. 282 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 1: I also like when you do it together and when 283 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: it's not oh you're in charge of the laundry or 284 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 1: you're in charge of this, Oh this is your job 285 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:49,959 Speaker 1: because you're a girl, Like no, babe, we are doing 286 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 1: all of this together. 287 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 2: I love that. See that is cute. 288 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 3: I just am absolutely like, not kitchen savvy at all, 289 00:13:57,480 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 3: so I made it made sure too. When James and 290 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 3: I started dating, I was like, you cannot like resent 291 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 3: me one day if you're like you never cook for me, 292 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:04,599 Speaker 3: Like I'm telling. 293 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 2: You now, I don't like it. 294 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 3: Oh I love lie and I do love cleaning, so 295 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 3: I think like it worked in our situation. 296 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 1: But yeah, you guys to each other out. 297 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, I have to be with someone that 298 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 2: can cook for me. That's my non negotiable. 299 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: Oh my god, have you ever seen that girl on 300 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 1: TikTok who she's like, I love to host dinner parties 301 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: and it's her dinner parties. Yes, always makes the homemade 302 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 1: pasta like yes and always yes. 303 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 3: It looks insane, insane. Yeah, I want to be her 304 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 3: when I grow up. 305 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 1: She reminds me of like one of the moms that 306 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 1: when you send your kids to school with lunch with 307 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 1: like the heart sheep, yes. 308 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 3: And the note that's like my whole feed though, is 309 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 3: just like interior design and like hosting. 310 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 1: And yeah, did you ever like hear from any of 311 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: your friends or anyone like that that there was maybe 312 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 1: some red flag behavior. 313 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 3: No, and a lot of my friends had met him again, 314 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 3: like he was following through and it was just so natural. 315 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 3: So and my friends, most of them hadn't seen the show, 316 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 3: and the ones that did were a little like, m 317 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 3: this guy is a little questionable. But then when they 318 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 3: met him, they were like, oh, he seems to have 319 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 3: like grown up a lot, and he seems way. 320 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 2: More mature than on the show. My family met him 321 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 2: and like fell in love with him. 322 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 1: And that's hard when you're like, oh, my family approved. 323 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 3: I know, I know, I was like, mom, but you 324 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 3: cannot watch any of the show please. 325 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 2: It was more the cast. 326 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 3: I feel like when we started filming and I like 327 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 3: got introduced, I guess to that world. 328 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 2: Like that's when obviously people were. 329 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 3: A little like I feel like with James, he would 330 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 3: grow and evob and then like we, like a lot 331 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 3: of us, do we go back to our old ways 332 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 3: or we fond of like self sabotage a little bit. 333 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 2: So I'm proud of him now. I feel like he 334 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 2: has grown already so much. 335 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 3: And I think our break up as sad as it was, like, 336 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 3: I think it needed to happen for him to really 337 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 3: like grow on his own, like without a girlfriend, without 338 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 3: support like that. 339 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: Well it must have been hard to because you guys 340 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: really did have such a great and loving and happy relationship. 341 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 1: But then it was almost like there were so many highs, 342 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 1: but then when there were lows, they were really low, 343 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: and it's difficult when that person repetitively can't fix those patterns. 344 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 1: And that was really what tore you guys apart exactly. 345 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 3: It was the lack of trust eventually and then just 346 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 3: the fear of like, Okay, I'm either going to like, 347 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 3: you know, what is the saying. It's like, Okay, I'm 348 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 3: either going to break up with you and maybe one 349 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 3: day regret it, or I'm going to stay with you 350 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 3: and one day regret it. 351 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 2: And it's like at the. 352 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 3: Age that I'm at now, it's I gotta just love 353 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 3: myself more. 354 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 2: Than I loved him and choose me. 355 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 3: And that is not easy, Like for anyone that ever 356 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 3: goes through any situation or break like, it's hard because 357 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 3: you do you're like your souls are attached, you know, 358 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 3: and it's it's not fun. So I think for me, 359 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 3: I was so grateful I had. I have a great therapist, 360 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 3: my mom came and stayed with me in La for 361 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:18,719 Speaker 3: like a month. I have a great circle of friends here. 362 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:23,159 Speaker 3: So luckily, like I just tried to spend like balance 363 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 3: my time of like bubble baths and healing and then 364 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 3: seeing friends and like you know, having their support, like 365 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 3: that's yeah, what helped me. 366 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:34,679 Speaker 1: Was it hard for you to really come out and 367 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 1: talk about it publicly? Did it just make you uncomfortable 368 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 1: or were you more so just unsure of how to 369 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 1: move forward. 370 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:44,640 Speaker 3: It's like a mix, and I feel like I went 371 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:47,360 Speaker 3: through phases like obviously, like at the beginning when everything 372 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 3: like broke in the headlines, it was like embarrassing and 373 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:51,120 Speaker 3: it's like, oh. 374 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 2: Okay, cool, like now I have to face this. 375 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 3: When it's like I was already dealing with it, you know, 376 00:17:56,960 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 3: like myself, but that's with my Capricorn and I try 377 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 3: not to involve people. I think, okay, I can handle 378 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 3: it myself, like everything's fine, don't worry, don't look over here. 379 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:08,120 Speaker 2: So I think it was more of. 380 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 3: Like okay, And then the way that I usually look 381 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 3: at things is I'm like, the universe put this out there, 382 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 3: this is what was meant to happen. 383 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 2: I have to deal with it. 384 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:23,439 Speaker 3: But it was uncomfortable because I'm not really as like 385 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 3: used to. I don't know public stuff as I guess 386 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 3: James's or people have been on shows for a while, 387 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 3: but it actually, weirdly, now I'm grateful for it. Like 388 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 3: at first, I was like, fuck my life, this is 389 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 3: so embarrassing and cool, like everyone. 390 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 2: Knows my shit. 391 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go hide in my baptob like, but now, 392 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 3: looking back, weirdly, I'm grateful because I do think it 393 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:52,880 Speaker 3: made me have to face it and also like the 394 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:56,479 Speaker 3: fans and people that were supporting me like that also 395 00:18:56,560 --> 00:19:00,080 Speaker 3: gave me so much strength and like, I don't know, 396 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:01,199 Speaker 3: you know, time heals everything. 397 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:02,640 Speaker 2: I just had to be away for a. 398 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 3: Bit to kind of get my head clear, and then 399 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 3: when I started to process everything, I got a little 400 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:10,639 Speaker 3: more comfortable with like talking about it and stuff. 401 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:13,160 Speaker 1: I know, I feel like the fan supports though, and 402 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:17,880 Speaker 1: hearing other people's feedback of what happened and how they 403 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,719 Speaker 1: can relate to you and how you helped them it 404 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:22,919 Speaker 1: makes you feel better, you know, and it makes you 405 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 1: also feel like you're not alone. 406 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, totally, Because at first, like the first week, I 407 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 3: was like, oh, they're all like shitting on James and 408 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 3: like that. It was like making me more sad. But 409 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 3: then after a while I feel like again I had 410 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:39,880 Speaker 3: to go through this process of like, Okay, what. 411 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 2: Am I doing? 412 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 3: Like what is my life? So it was weird, but 413 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:48,199 Speaker 3: I'm really grateful. Now I'm in my own apartment. I 414 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 3: love where I live. I'm still working and doing my readings, 415 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 3: and I'm grateful for my podcast. So I'm busy and yeah, 416 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 3: I feel like if I would have if I could 417 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:02,680 Speaker 3: have told myself in January like I'd be here now, 418 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 3: that would have been nice. 419 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: I mean, you knew you were going to get there totally, 420 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 1: But would you say that it was a regret or no? 421 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 3: No, I have no regrets. I think everything felt how 422 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 3: it was meant to fall. I'm happy I trusted my 423 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 3: gut also to be out completely fair. I don't even 424 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 3: know if I was in a place at that time 425 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 3: to trust my gut. I feel like my mom was 426 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:32,159 Speaker 3: more like you're leaving, You're coming to this airbnb with me. 427 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:34,439 Speaker 3: You need to get away from this situation for a minute, 428 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:37,880 Speaker 3: just so she could be with me to understand everything. 429 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 2: So I'm grateful for her. After being away, it helped me. 430 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 3: Then I was able to like get my nervous system 431 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 3: back to normal, think normally. 432 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 2: Then I could trust my gut and understood. 433 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 3: Okay, this is like the direction I need to go, 434 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 3: and it's the other way. 435 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, Mom's no best. My mom always says that to me. 436 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 1: She's like, Gia, don't ever ever tell me that I'm wrong. 437 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 4: Yes, no, my mom is the same way, same way, like, 438 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:08,920 Speaker 4: oh my gosh. 439 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 3: And it's it's hard, but even that, like trust, learning 440 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 3: to trust your friends and your mom and stuff too, 441 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 3: and just like you really see who is in your corner, 442 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:20,639 Speaker 3: like when you go through stuff like that, and like 443 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 3: it was really kind. 444 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 2: Of bittersweet because I feel like my. 445 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 3: Friends were just so awesome during that time, so it 446 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 3: was hard. Like I was able to still feel gratitude 447 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:34,160 Speaker 3: and like you know, not get too depressed or anything, 448 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 3: like I was okay. 449 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:45,160 Speaker 1: Oh wow, that makes me so happy. If you could 450 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 1: have gone back and ended things earlier, do you think 451 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 1: you would have or are you happy with your journey? 452 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 2: Ooh see. I feel like. 453 00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 3: I believe everything happens in its own timeline, but. 454 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 2: Maybe a little earlier to resolve like the. 455 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 3: Dramaticness of everything, it all went the way that it 456 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 3: should have. And I think too, for like people listening, 457 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:19,119 Speaker 3: it is so hard to get out of any relationship, 458 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,679 Speaker 3: let alone one that is a bit toxic. 459 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 1: I know, the feeling of just little things. You know, 460 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:27,160 Speaker 1: I've never been in like a fully toxic relationship. I've 461 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: like gone through lessons in past relationships that where it 462 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:32,880 Speaker 1: kind of like tests you in a way and makes 463 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:36,680 Speaker 1: you feel that feeling. But it's almost like you don't 464 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 1: want to lea You feel gravitated and you feel like 465 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,639 Speaker 1: the person is going to change, and you keep going. 466 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 1: It's a cycle that just keeps repeating itself, and you 467 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:49,639 Speaker 1: think that it's going to get better until an explosion happens, 468 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 1: and if you choose to stay, you almost look silly, 469 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:57,679 Speaker 1: and then if you choose to leave, you're like, wow, 470 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 1: but this hurts so bad because I actually will kind 471 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 1: of want to go back right now. 472 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,920 Speaker 3: Yes, It's like that's what I would always think, and like, Okay, 473 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 3: I'm a fool if I stay, But I'm like if 474 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 3: I go, I feel bad for that person or like 475 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 3: I'm giving up on that person. So it's like, do 476 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 3: I be the healer that wants to make sure you're good? 477 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 3: You know it's hard. 478 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:19,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't really win. 479 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 3: You kind of just have to do what you need 480 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 3: to do for yourself, get to the other side and 481 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 3: be grateful. 482 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 1: You've been on reality TV since you graduated high school. 483 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 1: And I thought this was so funny, So wait, explain 484 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 1: to me more about the reality TV show called The Valley, 485 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:36,680 Speaker 1: because I heard this and I'm like, wait, Bravo has 486 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 1: a reality TV show now, I called The Valley. 487 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 3: Weird things in my life have always like seemed to 488 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 3: do full circle things. So in high school, they had 489 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 3: what is it called, I. 490 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 2: Guess they had. 491 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 3: It was just like this thing at the mall, I think, 492 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 3: and it was like for a reality show. I play 493 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 3: guitar and sing, and I was going to college for music, 494 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:03,440 Speaker 3: so I was like, oh my god, this could be 495 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:07,919 Speaker 3: a fun opportunity whatever. And I auditioned an audition and 496 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,439 Speaker 3: then I got on and it was me and a 497 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 3: few friends and we ended up filming like two seasons 498 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 3: and it was so fun, but I was awful at it, 499 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,400 Speaker 3: Like I remember even the producers being like, oh, you're 500 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 3: just god, You're so boring, like because I was just 501 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 3: so like people pleasing at that age, which I still 502 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:26,439 Speaker 3: kind of am, but I think I've gotten out of 503 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:28,119 Speaker 3: that a little bit. But I was like just like 504 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 3: so like ah, like wanting everyone to get along, which 505 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 3: we know that's not like great TV. 506 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 2: So I definitely, you know, was like. 507 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,399 Speaker 3: Well, that was a fun experience, but I knew, like, okay, 508 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 3: reality TV is like you have to be willing to 509 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 3: really be your authentic self. So yeah, just wild to 510 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 3: have them. When I started dating James, it all kind 511 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 3: of came back around. And then now Bravo has a 512 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 3: show called The Valley. 513 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,879 Speaker 1: I know, weird. I was like, wait, what so weird? 514 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:56,199 Speaker 2: I know? 515 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,119 Speaker 1: I know how you feel like you were kind of 516 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: like always a people pleaser and always wanted to please everyone. 517 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 1: Do you feel like now, looking back, you kind of 518 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 1: did that, especially Lisa and James and maybe the people 519 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: around you, to keep maybe the core together of Van 520 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 1: or Pump rules, Like do you felt like you were 521 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 1: very manipulated in that sense to try to stay with 522 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,879 Speaker 1: James a little longer. I just felt like that holds 523 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 1: a lot of pressure because you guys were filming together 524 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:29,359 Speaker 1: on a show. This is all happening, yeah, and almost 525 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 1: to keep the show together. Not that obviously, you know, 526 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:35,360 Speaker 1: you have to do it makes you happy, but there's 527 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 1: definitely pressure of this is our life, like this is 528 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 1: my life, Like, yeah, we came onto this I came 529 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:46,919 Speaker 1: onto this show because we were dating. Yeah, my platform 530 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 1: is to where we are now. I guess because he 531 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,400 Speaker 1: brought me onto vander Pump exactly. 532 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 2: I feel like it was. I didn't really feel a 533 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 2: lot of pressure. 534 00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 3: I felt more of like and I always said from 535 00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:03,160 Speaker 3: the beginning, like I'm here to support James, like this 536 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:07,159 Speaker 3: is my boyfriend's job. And yes, I did become more involved, 537 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:09,360 Speaker 3: but at the end of the day, I always was like, Okay, 538 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 3: I'm here to support James. And then when I did 539 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 3: form like more natural connections with the girls and things, 540 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 3: that's when it was hard because that's when they you know, 541 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 3: I was like, she never'ss Ariana and that had nothing. 542 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 2: To really do with James. This was like, okay, who 543 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 2: do I like what? 544 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:26,719 Speaker 3: And I just had to like trust my gut and 545 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 3: I was like, I love she know, we're still really close. 546 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:30,159 Speaker 2: I was with her the other. 547 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 3: Night, but she knew that I fully you know, supported 548 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:39,719 Speaker 3: Ariana and not wanting to see Tom Sandoval because why 549 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,640 Speaker 3: would she. So I feel like I did a good 550 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 3: job of being like these are my feelings and thoughts, 551 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 3: but I'm still going to somehow and I'm a Libra Moon, 552 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 3: so I'm like a natural, like I can't help it. 553 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 2: It's like I want to keep the peace. 554 00:26:55,880 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 3: But I feel like during the last season, I just 555 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 3: was kind of could be there for anyone who needed me. 556 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 2: I guess because at the end of the day, like. 557 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 3: You know, Sheen and Arianna's friendship, it spans decades, so 558 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 3: it was hard for both of. 559 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 2: Them, and it was I don't even know. I did 560 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 2: what I guess I could do. 561 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:23,120 Speaker 3: At that time, but not pressure to try to keep 562 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 3: everyone together. I think it was more of just my 563 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 3: I honestly think I was That's just how I would 564 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 3: have been in reality. You know. It's like wanting to 565 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:32,880 Speaker 3: kind of make sure they're okay and then make sure 566 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 3: that they're okay, and they weren't. 567 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:37,120 Speaker 2: But that's all right too. 568 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 1: When you were filming Fan or Pump Rules, did any 569 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,639 Speaker 1: of your castmates ever, you know, ask you if you 570 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 1: were okay or question the behavior or no, or did 571 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 1: they just think it was like James, like this is James. 572 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 2: They didn't really, they didn't really trying. 573 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 3: To think at the beginning of our relationship because James 574 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:07,440 Speaker 3: was drinking at that time and I didn't know him 575 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,919 Speaker 3: that well, and they were like, Ali, he's not a 576 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 3: good drinker, and I'm like okay, Like yeah, James, like 577 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,639 Speaker 3: maybe you shouldn't drink, you know. So the first season 578 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 3: was like a lot of talking about that, and then 579 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:21,199 Speaker 3: he finally did get sober, and then I mean he 580 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,639 Speaker 3: was great. He was the number one guy for a minute. 581 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 3: I mean he became friends with Katie again. So like 582 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,919 Speaker 3: it really did seem like everything was like he was 583 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 3: evolving and good and then it wasn't, and you know 584 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 3: that's life. But no, yeah, really, they they were always 585 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 3: very supportive of our relationship. And then after everything happened, obviously, yeah, 586 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 3: they all like checked it in on me and made 587 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 3: sure I was okay and everything like that. 588 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 1: And then who are you really close with now? From 589 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 1: the vander pumpcast now that the show is over, I. 590 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 2: Am closest with Sheena. 591 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 3: I'm really good friends with Courtney, who was Sheena's younger sister. 592 00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:00,080 Speaker 2: She's my age. Oh okay, yeah, we just went to 593 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 2: lead together. Wait. 594 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, you have to tell me all 595 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 1: about your Italy trip. 596 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 2: You you too? I was like, sleigh, every picture was 597 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 2: so cuteful. 598 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 1: It's literally the best place earth. 599 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 2: It's literally heaven on earth. It was my first time. 600 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 2: Was it yours? 601 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 3: No? 602 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 1: I really, Oh my god. It was my first time 603 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 1: in Florence, and then I loved Florence. It was amazing 604 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 1: on the Amafi coast, absolutely stunning and just Posteditano and everything. 605 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 1: What's Dona was my favorite place on the Amafi coast 606 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 1: and I was just in heaven. The food, the drinks, 607 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 1: the people, like just the scenery. 608 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, it matched. Actually, it exceeded all my expectations. And 609 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 3: it's been on my bucket list for so long. 610 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 2: I can't wait to go back. 611 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 1: All right, once you leave, like you already you're planning 612 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 1: your literally next trip because you're like, okay, how can 613 00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 1: I make it back here? 614 00:29:58,400 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 2: I know, right, I know. 615 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 1: I always say this about Italy. You can turn a 616 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 1: corner or go somewhere and you will see something new 617 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 1: every step that you take. 618 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 2: It's so true. 619 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 3: I love that, and it feels so it's so walkable 620 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 3: and like small point but yet yeah there's beauty. 621 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 1: Ever, oh you walk everywhere where? Do you see yourself 622 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 1: going forward in life with your dating life? 623 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 2: I feel like at this point I'm not like. 624 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 1: Ready, honestly, you did all the right things so far, 625 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 1: like honestly, like beyond, you've taken your time to heal. 626 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 1: You're in therapy, You're really just like taking your time, 627 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 1: and you just had an amazing vacation in Italy, so 628 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 1: you're checking everything off the list. 629 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 3: It was, yeah, and I did have like a little 630 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 3: fling in Italy, like a love but like that's over now. 631 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 2: So like I'm just kind of having fun and like 632 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 2: living life. 633 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 3: I don't see myself doing dating apps or anything, and 634 00:30:56,400 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 3: bad enough at texting my mom back, so that probably. 635 00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 2: Isn't for me. 636 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm like really just focused on like my career 637 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 3: and friendships. 638 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 1: I feel like that's the best part when you are 639 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 1: freshly single. You're like the fun kissing just random yeah, 640 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 1: and like kissing in a bar. I'm like, wait, this 641 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 1: is so fun. I feel the butterflies again. I am 642 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 1: in high school. This is crazy. 643 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so scary and so fun. 644 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 1: That's the best feeling about it. And you're like, wow, 645 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 1: miss this feeling. And I get it why people are 646 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 1: like I don't want a boyfriend. I love being single. 647 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, the freedom is real. 648 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 2: The freedom's real. 649 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 3: I feel like for me too, just have it. Like 650 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 3: I poured so much into that relationship. I mean, he 651 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 3: poured a lot into me too. I feel like we 652 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 3: I know it doesn't look good, but we had a 653 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 3: pretty healthy relationship for majority, but I just yeah, like 654 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 3: poured so much into that that it's also like I'm 655 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 3: not ready to like give my energy to someone else yet, 656 00:31:55,560 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 3: like my energy so not ready to like go there, 657 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 3: do you know what I mean? Like with someone, But 658 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 3: but yeah, the grass is always greener. And also being 659 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 3: in a relationship is amazing. Being single amazing. 660 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 1: Enjoy whatever, and you will find your person because you 661 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 1: have such a such a beautiful light to you and 662 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 1: you're so positive. This was like you really are. You 663 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 1: have like just I love I love your energy, I 664 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 1: love your aura. It's very very positive. And someone's going 665 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 1: to accept that so much, and not that he didn't, 666 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 1: but it just maybe it was right person, wrong time. 667 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 2: Thank you. I appreciate that. 668 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 1: That's so you will find your person. 669 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 2: Thank you. 670 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 1: And I know a lot of the fans, like you 671 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 1: said earlier, were really positive on just giving you feedback 672 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 1: and giving you their love and support. Is there any 673 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 1: advice that you would give to any one going through. 674 00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 3: This, anyone going through that, to tell someone and to 675 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:05,479 Speaker 3: even if it's like, oh, you know, my boyfriend did 676 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 3: this kind of controlling thing or like whatever whatever. 677 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 2: I feel like it's not easy. 678 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 3: You want to protect them and you see only the 679 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 3: good in them, and that's natural. And I guess my 680 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 3: advice would be to just be as honest as you 681 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 3: can with your friends and family, and then if you 682 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 3: do go through a breakup or if you need to 683 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 3: get out of a relationship, lean on friends, lean on 684 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 3: family as much as you can. 685 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 2: Obviously, for people. 686 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 3: Who don't feel like they have a community, there's hotlines 687 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 3: and numbers and all of that too, But yeah, I 688 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 3: just feel I just feel grateful that I had a community, 689 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 3: Like I just don't know how like what I would 690 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 3: have done without that community. So I'm grateful for that. 691 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 3: And also to just trust yourself and. 692 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 2: To breathe and. 693 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, have faith and the fact that it'll all work 694 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 3: out how it can to. 695 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm really not. 696 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 3: Like an expert, so I don't want to like speak 697 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:05,720 Speaker 3: on what you should do. 698 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 2: But I guess that's kind of my what helped me. 699 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,719 Speaker 1: It makes total sense because it is true. Sometimes you 700 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:14,919 Speaker 1: are a little blinded by the person that you love, 701 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 1: and you always want to see the best in that person, 702 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:23,279 Speaker 1: but sometimes you need somebody else just to make you 703 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 1: aware that there is. 704 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:29,320 Speaker 3: Better, yes, and to remind you like you're this age 705 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,400 Speaker 3: and this is do you want to be stuck? My 706 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 3: mom has been married three times, like every woman in 707 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,960 Speaker 3: my life, and I respect and love they've been through 708 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,120 Speaker 3: so much. So like when they are giving me advice, 709 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:42,279 Speaker 3: like I trust that. 710 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:46,399 Speaker 1: You know, oh my god, we'll go off. You are 711 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 1: killing it. And what are you up to right now 712 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 1: with your career and what's going on in your life. 713 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,839 Speaker 2: I am doing a lot of traveling. 714 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:56,400 Speaker 1: I've had so much, as you should. 715 00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, it has been quite the summer of travel, as 716 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 3: you know too. And then my podcast starts Jack, I've 717 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 3: been like pouring a lot of energy into that, and 718 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,960 Speaker 3: then I'm still doing some readings on the side, like 719 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 3: with clients and things and just having fun but like working, 720 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,479 Speaker 3: trying to find a good balance honestly of like fun 721 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 3: and work. 722 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 2: That's kind of where my focus is right now. I know. 723 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:21,840 Speaker 1: Got to work hard and play hard at the same time. 724 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,920 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I think I told your mom that when 725 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,279 Speaker 2: she said she was Chorice like you work hard and 726 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:27,800 Speaker 2: play hard. 727 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 1: Yes, No, she literally does. 728 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 2: She's crazy and people don't probably see that on the show. 729 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 3: You know. 730 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 1: No, yeah, of course they don't. She's literally in Australia 731 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 1: right now, doing a bunch of appearances in several different cities. 732 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, crazy. And she's you know, traveling to all 733 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,239 Speaker 1: these different cities doing her appearances, and you know how 734 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,080 Speaker 1: exhausting appearances are, just from like going back and forth 735 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:56,880 Speaker 1: to them and doing that flying back and forth, long 736 00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 1: car rides. She'll finally be home on Saturday. 737 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,520 Speaker 2: So I'm so excited, and you guys have to spend 738 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:06,319 Speaker 2: some like quality mom daughter time together. Definitely need your 739 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 2: like grounding energy after all that. 740 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, she's like I miss you. I'm like, I 741 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 1: miss you too. We'll do a beach day. 742 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 2: Oh that's so cute. I take to Jersey. I've never been. 743 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:17,840 Speaker 2: I would go to New York City a lot, but. 744 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 1: I've never Okay, Well, when you're in New York, definitely 745 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 1: text me and let's get lunch, dinner. We'll definitely meet 746 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 1: up because I would love love to see you me too. 747 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 3: I know we have to meet in person and I'll 748 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 3: do your bird chart please. 749 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,319 Speaker 1: I really want to get this done. Yes, okay, I'm 750 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:35,879 Speaker 1: holding you. 751 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 2: To your mom. We got to get the birth time. 752 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:39,960 Speaker 1: I'll look at my birth certificate and get it back 753 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 1: to you perfect. 754 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 2: Yep, there we go. Sim you're in business all right. 755 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,839 Speaker 1: Well, you're such a beautiful soul. Thank you so much 756 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,279 Speaker 1: for coming on my podcast. I hope you enjoyed this 757 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:52,800 Speaker 1: as much as I did. And until next week, guys, 758 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:53,719 Speaker 1: Ali Louver. 759 00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:54,840 Speaker 2: Thank you guys. 760 00:36:55,200 --> 00:37:01,520 Speaker 3: Bye St