WEBVTT - Taking on the Establishment with Kelly Tshibaka 0:00:02.759 --> 0:00:06.240 So we've been talking on this show. We've done some 0:00:06.280 --> 0:00:10.720 interviews as of late about the midterm elections, vitally important 0:00:10.720 --> 0:00:14.520 midterm elections coming up on November eight. But you know 0:00:14.560 --> 0:00:16.560 that I don't have to tell you. You understand what 0:00:16.680 --> 0:00:20.240 is at stake as a nation, or values at stake, 0:00:20.280 --> 0:00:23.800 who we are as a country. Uh, protecting us from 0:00:23.800 --> 0:00:26.920 the weaponization of government and economy. I mean, Joe Biden 0:00:27.000 --> 0:00:30.400 killed the economy and we witnessed the murder. We're all witnesses, 0:00:31.360 --> 0:00:33.920 so we all know what's at stake. We know that 0:00:34.000 --> 0:00:36.000 it's bad, we know that it needs to change. We 0:00:36.080 --> 0:00:37.680 know that we need to make our voices heard. You 0:00:37.720 --> 0:00:41.040 will know this. But if you're in Alaska, you also 0:00:41.120 --> 0:00:45.600 have a choice between two Republicans and that changes things too. 0:00:45.640 --> 0:00:48.240 I mean, we need to change the balance of power 0:00:48.440 --> 0:00:51.040 in the Senate. We need Republicans to win the majority, 0:00:51.080 --> 0:00:53.479 but we also need people who are going to go 0:00:53.640 --> 0:00:57.200 there and and aren't just Republican in name only right, 0:00:57.240 --> 0:00:59.880 they're actually standing up for us. They share our value, 0:01:00.000 --> 0:01:03.000 they're willing to fight for us. And we know that's 0:01:03.040 --> 0:01:07.480 not Lisa Maurkowski. She says she's a Republican, but she 0:01:07.680 --> 0:01:12.720 voted to convict former President Trump and his second impeachment trial. 0:01:13.600 --> 0:01:17.440 She has voted with Joe Biden. She has endorsed the 0:01:17.480 --> 0:01:21.520 Democrat candidate who is running for Alaska's only House seat, 0:01:21.760 --> 0:01:25.240 the Democrat there in that race, She's voted for that individual. 0:01:26.640 --> 0:01:30.600 She has sold us out. She's not a Republican. She's 0:01:30.600 --> 0:01:34.160 as much of a Republican as Liz Cheney. But if 0:01:34.160 --> 0:01:37.000 you're in Alaska, you have a choice. But if you're 0:01:37.040 --> 0:01:39.360 in Alaska, you have a choice. There's also Kelly Chebacca, 0:01:39.920 --> 0:01:43.440 and so you have a choice on November eight to 0:01:43.480 --> 0:01:46.640 send a Republican who's actually going to stand up for you, 0:01:46.880 --> 0:01:49.840 who actually is going to share your values. Kelly was 0:01:49.880 --> 0:01:52.680 the first person in her family to go to college 0:01:52.880 --> 0:01:55.960 and then to law school. Her parents were working class, 0:01:55.960 --> 0:01:58.080 They worked hard to provide a living for her, and 0:01:58.120 --> 0:02:02.360 throughout her career she's worked a whole government accountable. She's 0:02:02.360 --> 0:02:04.760 worked in the Office of the Inspector General for the 0:02:04.760 --> 0:02:08.080 Department of Justice. She has worked as an advisor to 0:02:08.080 --> 0:02:12.040 the Inspector General of the Intelligence Community and various jobs 0:02:12.080 --> 0:02:14.920 like that. So she's worked in these positions where she 0:02:14.960 --> 0:02:20.160 has witnessed how government does us wrong, how government fails us, 0:02:20.280 --> 0:02:22.320 and how we need to hold government accountable, which is 0:02:22.400 --> 0:02:25.320 kind of important if you look at what's been going 0:02:25.400 --> 0:02:27.480 on in the country when you look at that we 0:02:27.520 --> 0:02:31.119 have a Department of Justice that is targeting pro life Americans, 0:02:31.120 --> 0:02:33.920 as we've covered on this podcast, as we look at 0:02:33.919 --> 0:02:37.680 a Department of Justice that has targeted parents, a Department 0:02:37.680 --> 0:02:40.960 of Justice, and an FBI that has targeted, for the 0:02:41.000 --> 0:02:45.000 first time ever, a former president basically over and overdue 0:02:45.000 --> 0:02:48.760 library book. So if there's ever a time to elect 0:02:48.800 --> 0:02:52.200 people that want the whole government accountable, now is that time. 0:02:52.440 --> 0:02:55.680 And so the reason why there are two Republicans running 0:02:55.680 --> 0:02:59.240 against each other in Alaska is because of this funky 0:02:59.639 --> 0:03:04.880 ballot measure to which was approved during the Alaska elections. 0:03:05.720 --> 0:03:08.519 And so this is actually the first time that a 0:03:08.600 --> 0:03:11.480 state election and Alaska is going to be held under 0:03:11.600 --> 0:03:14.480 this new election process. And basically what it means is 0:03:14.520 --> 0:03:18.160 all candidates ran and a non partisan blanket taught for 0:03:18.440 --> 0:03:22.480 primary and that was on August six, two thousand twenty two, 0:03:22.520 --> 0:03:25.519 and then the top four candidates advance to the general 0:03:25.520 --> 0:03:30.840 election and voters will be using a ranked choice voting 0:03:30.919 --> 0:03:34.160 process during the general election. One of the other Republicans 0:03:34.200 --> 0:03:37.960 who had emerged. Buzz Kelly had also advantaged the general election, 0:03:38.120 --> 0:03:41.400 but he suspended his campaign and actually endorsed Kelly Chebaca. 0:03:41.440 --> 0:03:43.960 Who are we gonna be talking to today? And we 0:03:44.000 --> 0:03:47.080 know Kelly is good because the people we hate hate her, 0:03:47.760 --> 0:03:49.560 or the people that we don't think are doing a 0:03:49.560 --> 0:03:53.720 good job hate her. Like Mitch McConnell, his Senate Leadership 0:03:53.760 --> 0:03:56.960 Fund is actually spent millions of dollars in attack ads 0:03:57.040 --> 0:04:00.720 against Kelly. He's been trying to boost Lee to Murkowski. 0:04:00.760 --> 0:04:03.240 Why do we think that is because Lisa Murkowski is 0:04:03.240 --> 0:04:06.280 a reliable vote for Mitch McConnell, but also sadly, a 0:04:06.360 --> 0:04:09.280 reliable vote for Democrats as well. Yes, we have a 0:04:09.400 --> 0:04:13.040 choice this election cycle. We have a duty to win 0:04:13.080 --> 0:04:16.680 back the Senate as Republicans, to get a Senate majority again, 0:04:16.760 --> 0:04:20.719 get a House majority again, to get Republican governors in office, 0:04:20.800 --> 0:04:23.080 and Republicans around the country from the top of the 0:04:23.080 --> 0:04:25.640 ticket down. We have to do this. We need to 0:04:25.760 --> 0:04:29.320 change the direction of the country. But if you're in Alaska, 0:04:29.320 --> 0:04:33.520 you have the opportunity to send a real Republican to Washington, 0:04:33.600 --> 0:04:36.120 d C. Not another list Cheney. So that's who we're 0:04:36.120 --> 0:04:39.640 going to talk to today, Kelly Chebaka running for Senate 0:04:39.960 --> 0:04:58.359 in the great state of Alaska. We've got Kelly Chebaka 0:04:58.440 --> 0:05:01.320 here running for se that in Alaska. You know, Kelly, 0:05:01.400 --> 0:05:04.159 the beautiful thing about your race is that we're going 0:05:04.240 --> 0:05:06.400 to have a Republican but with you, we'll get a 0:05:06.400 --> 0:05:12.200 real Republican. Yeah, that's absolutely right. So in Alaska, Murkowski 0:05:12.360 --> 0:05:15.320 is such a bad Republican votes with Biden eighty percent 0:05:15.360 --> 0:05:18.400 of the time that our Alaska Republican Party censured her 0:05:18.480 --> 0:05:21.839 and removed her from membership before I ever announced my race. 0:05:21.880 --> 0:05:24.640 They said Murkowski is not our candidate. We're just looking 0:05:24.640 --> 0:05:27.719 for somebody else. And so the race has now come 0:05:27.800 --> 0:05:30.599 down to a head to head between me and Murkowski. 0:05:30.720 --> 0:05:34.159 Because the election system in Alaska is a little bit different. 0:05:34.200 --> 0:05:36.200 We have a ranked choice system. The polls are saying 0:05:36.200 --> 0:05:39.599 we're tied fifty fifty. It's a tight race. Alaskans are 0:05:39.600 --> 0:05:42.400 going to get to decide, and of course the determination 0:05:42.440 --> 0:05:44.400 that the voters make will affect the outcome of the 0:05:44.480 --> 0:05:47.760 nation because so many times Murkowski's vote is one that 0:05:47.760 --> 0:05:50.320 affects the outcome of the nation. The establishment is with 0:05:50.400 --> 0:05:53.680 her from Biden to McConnell. McConnell's flooding our state with 0:05:53.800 --> 0:05:56.599 millions of dollars outside dark money to try and pull 0:05:56.640 --> 0:06:00.120 for Murkowski. But Alaskans are definitely on a movement to 0:06:00.160 --> 0:06:02.280 try and get her out of the seat because I 0:06:02.360 --> 0:06:04.440 think we don't want a senator who's bought and bullied 0:06:04.480 --> 0:06:07.520 by the establishment in DC. We want our Laska voice represented. 0:06:07.760 --> 0:06:09.680 I'm confident we're going to win on November eight, and 0:06:09.720 --> 0:06:11.640 it's going to mean a big difference for the country. Well, 0:06:11.640 --> 0:06:15.159 and McConnell's spending money against you is incredibly frustrating because 0:06:15.200 --> 0:06:18.839 the balance of the Senate hags in power. Right we 0:06:18.839 --> 0:06:21.800 we he needs to be spending money helping Blake Masters 0:06:21.839 --> 0:06:25.119 get over the finish line, uh, you know, or getting 0:06:25.160 --> 0:06:28.480 Don Bulldock in New Hampshire across the finish line, not 0:06:28.640 --> 0:06:31.919 spending money against you a Republican. That's absolutely right, Lisa. 0:06:32.080 --> 0:06:34.360 We know that he actually pulled money from those other 0:06:34.480 --> 0:06:37.800 races to come up here and try and get his 0:06:37.800 --> 0:06:40.680 friend Makowski across the finish line. That means that we 0:06:40.760 --> 0:06:44.360 could lose the majority in the Senate, so Mitch McConnell 0:06:44.360 --> 0:06:48.640 can make sure he preserves his role as Senate minority leader. 0:06:48.680 --> 0:06:52.480 He's more interested in maintaining a minority he can control 0:06:52.960 --> 0:06:57.240 than ensuring we have a majority that Mitch McConnell can't control, 0:06:57.279 --> 0:06:59.000 in one that he might not be the leader of. 0:06:59.360 --> 0:07:02.200 That is not the best interests of Americans or of 0:07:02.440 --> 0:07:05.279 common sense Republican values, and it will come at the 0:07:05.279 --> 0:07:08.239 harm of all of us because of this decision he's made. 0:07:08.560 --> 0:07:10.800 And it's also a direct defiance of the will and 0:07:10.840 --> 0:07:14.040 determination of the Republicans here in Alaska. The Republican Party 0:07:14.080 --> 0:07:17.640 didn't start in Washington, d C. It started in grassroots 0:07:17.640 --> 0:07:20.520 America's people coming around common values. So this directly the 0:07:20.560 --> 0:07:23.280 five government of the people, by the people, for the people. 0:07:23.720 --> 0:07:27.040 It's more of a result of these politicians and establishment 0:07:27.080 --> 0:07:30.640 people in d C. Biden, McConnell, Murkowski, all of them 0:07:30.920 --> 0:07:33.560 telling us people out here in America what's best for us. 0:07:33.680 --> 0:07:35.920 You know, their quality of life goes up, our cost 0:07:35.960 --> 0:07:37.840 of living goes up, and this is what we're tired of. 0:07:37.880 --> 0:07:39.800 We want to take our country and we want to 0:07:39.880 --> 0:07:42.480 lead it forward. Why do you think he's so invested 0:07:42.680 --> 0:07:46.480 in helping Lisa Murkowski, Because I know that. I think 0:07:46.760 --> 0:07:49.080 the reason is he knows he can control her vote. 0:07:49.160 --> 0:07:51.560 The Exchange comments to the media when he said he 0:07:51.600 --> 0:07:54.080 was going to invest seven to nine million in this race, 0:07:54.600 --> 0:07:57.600 he said, Murkowski is a vote that we can depend on, 0:07:57.600 --> 0:07:59.840 a reliable vote. I think that means a reliable vote 0:07:59.840 --> 0:08:02.960 for McConnell as leader and reliable but when he needs her. 0:08:03.280 --> 0:08:06.160 She voted with McConnell and Biden on extreme gun control 0:08:06.160 --> 0:08:08.640 and red flag laws earlier this year. That goes against 0:08:08.640 --> 0:08:11.440 the values of Alaskans. Even Democrats carry guns up here. 0:08:12.040 --> 0:08:14.640 But I also think that that he knows that I'm 0:08:14.680 --> 0:08:16.440 not one of those votes, is going to just do 0:08:16.480 --> 0:08:19.960 whatever McConnell wants. I have a long career of holding 0:08:19.960 --> 0:08:23.080 government insiders accountable and exposing waste, fraud, and abuse. I 0:08:23.120 --> 0:08:27.240 won't be bullied, silenced, or controlled by the DC insider establishment. 0:08:27.640 --> 0:08:29.840 But I think that's all McConnell is really concerned about. 0:08:30.120 --> 0:08:32.760 Lisa mccowski has become part of the DC establishment. She's 0:08:32.800 --> 0:08:36.120 an insider through and through well. But she's also supported Democrats, 0:08:36.160 --> 0:08:40.680 and I mean she's voted for Biden's Interior Secretary, Deb Howland. 0:08:40.840 --> 0:08:45.239 She's also endorsed the Democrat candidate who's running for Alaska's 0:08:45.280 --> 0:08:47.320 only House seats, so you know it's not even like 0:08:47.920 --> 0:08:51.360 a vote for the establishment Republicans. I mean, she's working 0:08:51.400 --> 0:08:54.480 with Democrats, that's absolutely right. I'm not confidence that Mitch 0:08:54.600 --> 0:08:57.319 McConnell is sold out on a Republican agenda. I mean, 0:08:57.400 --> 0:09:00.360 I've asked this question before. Can anyone tell me what 0:09:00.400 --> 0:09:03.559 Mitch McConnell and as leader of the Republicans, wants to 0:09:03.600 --> 0:09:06.640 accomplish in the next two years or four years. I 0:09:06.679 --> 0:09:09.360 saw him give the Democrats the grain light to raise 0:09:09.440 --> 0:09:12.440 the debt ceiling. It seems like we're the ones as 0:09:12.679 --> 0:09:15.120 Republicans in the Senate who are always bending over and 0:09:15.120 --> 0:09:18.679 giving the Democrats whatever they want. And so I'm not 0:09:18.920 --> 0:09:22.360 confident that Mitch McConnell is actually looking out for Republicans 0:09:22.400 --> 0:09:25.240 and our platform and our interests. I think Mitch McConnell's 0:09:25.240 --> 0:09:28.000 looking out for himself. Remember, all these people are friends, 0:09:28.000 --> 0:09:29.880 and they love to go to their little social parties 0:09:29.920 --> 0:09:33.320 and Washington d C. Social circuits. But what are we 0:09:33.400 --> 0:09:37.960 actually advancing as a Republican party as platform values. It's 0:09:37.960 --> 0:09:40.800 time for Americans with courage and common sense to rise 0:09:40.840 --> 0:09:43.000 together and leave this nation forward. I think that's a 0:09:43.080 --> 0:09:46.240 real direct threat to McConnell and what he's looking out for, 0:09:46.360 --> 0:09:48.480 which is me myself and I You know, you talked 0:09:48.480 --> 0:09:50.480 about a lot of the work you've done and holding 0:09:50.520 --> 0:09:53.960 government accountable. So you've done work in the Inspector General's 0:09:54.000 --> 0:09:56.640 Office for the Department of Justice, or the Inspector General's 0:09:56.640 --> 0:10:00.960 Office overlooking the intelligence community. Through that work that you've done, 0:10:01.400 --> 0:10:04.480 what did that teach you about government? What should people 0:10:04.520 --> 0:10:07.920 know about how government operates? Well, one thing that's exciting 0:10:08.040 --> 0:10:11.520 is government can be good. Government can be for us 0:10:11.600 --> 0:10:14.040 in there are ways to get the bureaucracy to work 0:10:14.360 --> 0:10:16.080 and vend it's me to the will of the people. 0:10:16.080 --> 0:10:18.480 And that's what I've developed expertise in. I will be 0:10:18.559 --> 0:10:21.520 the only one of the hundred senators who has worked 0:10:21.520 --> 0:10:24.200 from the bottom up to senior management, always in a 0:10:24.240 --> 0:10:28.079 watchdog role, making government more efficient and effective. I've been 0:10:28.120 --> 0:10:32.400 able to return billions of dollars to taxpayers and streamline operations, 0:10:32.480 --> 0:10:35.560 make things work effectively. And when we walk in on 0:10:35.679 --> 0:10:38.599 day one, last skill have a senator has thousands of 0:10:38.679 --> 0:10:42.000 law enforcement officers and lawyers and auditors that will be 0:10:42.040 --> 0:10:45.040 able to use embedded in Biden's bureaucracy to start getting 0:10:45.080 --> 0:10:48.600 these agencies and departments to work for Alaska in America, 0:10:48.679 --> 0:10:51.240 not against us. None of the other senators have that experience, 0:10:51.320 --> 0:10:53.960 knowledge and ability, and that will be a really great 0:10:54.000 --> 0:10:56.720 asset for us. The other thing I think I learned, 0:10:56.800 --> 0:10:58.520 and this is what got me to pursue this as 0:10:58.520 --> 0:11:00.640 a career and not just as a first job. If 0:11:00.679 --> 0:11:03.800 you don't have people like me making government work for us, 0:11:03.840 --> 0:11:06.600 it's not always for us, Lisa. One of my first 0:11:06.679 --> 0:11:10.920 cases was an allegation against FBI and Department of Justice 0:11:10.960 --> 0:11:14.240 officials that they abused Americans and violated their rights. In 0:11:14.240 --> 0:11:17.440 the case have been closed. Allegations were not substantiated, they 0:11:17.440 --> 0:11:19.200 didn't do it, and I was assigned to just review 0:11:19.240 --> 0:11:21.199 the report and put it out. And I went to 0:11:21.200 --> 0:11:22.840 my boss and said, there's some loose threads here, and 0:11:22.840 --> 0:11:25.199 he said, well, you reinvestigate it, and I did. I 0:11:25.280 --> 0:11:27.400 got an agent to turn against the other agents. I 0:11:27.440 --> 0:11:29.600 found evidence that they tried to destroy, and the case 0:11:29.640 --> 0:11:31.320 went all the way to the US Supreme Court. It 0:11:31.360 --> 0:11:34.080 turns out they did do it. And that's when I realized, 0:11:34.120 --> 0:11:36.200 if you don't have people in like me in here, 0:11:36.640 --> 0:11:39.280 it won't be bullied and won't be bought by the establishment, 0:11:39.800 --> 0:11:42.400 government can get away with everything. And that's why I 0:11:42.440 --> 0:11:44.120 decided to make it my career. I want to make 0:11:44.120 --> 0:11:47.200 sure government works for the people and not against us, 0:11:47.320 --> 0:11:50.000 and so I dedicated my career to this, and that's 0:11:50.000 --> 0:11:52.200 what I'm trying to do here for Alaska and the U. S. 0:11:52.200 --> 0:11:54.839 Senate makes this work for us, not against us. Well, 0:11:54.880 --> 0:11:57.800 And Kellett's a real concern for so many Americans right 0:11:57.840 --> 0:11:59.600 now is I mean a lot of people we fear 0:11:59.640 --> 0:12:02.319 the government right and when we've seen them target parents 0:12:02.440 --> 0:12:04.920 the d o J and calling them domestic terrorist. We've 0:12:04.920 --> 0:12:08.160 seen former the president Trump for the first time in 0:12:08.200 --> 0:12:12.120 American history, uh, the FBI reading a former president's home. 0:12:12.200 --> 0:12:15.280 We've see what they're doing to Steve Bannon simply for 0:12:15.360 --> 0:12:18.480 not responding to a subpoena when air holder can do 0:12:18.480 --> 0:12:20.040 whatever he wants and that's not a big deal. So 0:12:20.280 --> 0:12:23.040 we've really arrived at this point where Americans fear government. 0:12:24.040 --> 0:12:25.880 How do you think we got here? One part of 0:12:25.920 --> 0:12:27.960 it is I don't think Congress is really doing the 0:12:28.040 --> 0:12:31.439 job it could do in its oversight Authority. Article one 0:12:31.480 --> 0:12:34.840 section makes clear in the Constitution it's Congress's job to 0:12:34.880 --> 0:12:38.680 hold the executive branch accountable these inspector general offices that 0:12:38.720 --> 0:12:40.679 I worked in. They have a role to play as 0:12:40.720 --> 0:12:45.679 internal affairs within the departments. However, fundamentally, um Congress is 0:12:45.720 --> 0:12:48.959 supposed to be the check and balance on the executive branch, 0:12:49.440 --> 0:12:52.920 and so many times it seems that they're distracted with 0:12:53.000 --> 0:12:55.920 other things. Hopefully it as gently as we can, and 0:12:55.960 --> 0:12:58.520 but they're not actually doing the job of budgeting in 0:12:58.679 --> 0:13:02.679 government and reigning in their authorities when there's an abusive authority. 0:13:02.760 --> 0:13:05.479 For example, we have a senior position on the Appropriations 0:13:05.480 --> 0:13:08.120 Committee with Makowski right now, but in the last twelve years, 0:13:08.520 --> 0:13:11.040 they haven't only passed one appropriation still on time. They've 0:13:11.040 --> 0:13:14.319 now gotten in the habit of just passing continuing resolutions, 0:13:14.559 --> 0:13:17.160 budgeting same budget last year, same budget last year. It's 0:13:17.200 --> 0:13:19.680 like giving your teenager a fifty dollar bill for allowance 0:13:19.760 --> 0:13:21.960 every year for every week and saying I don't only 0:13:21.960 --> 0:13:23.120 care what you're doing, I don't really care what you 0:13:23.200 --> 0:13:25.440 spend it. You're gonna have a runaway teenager and you 0:13:25.440 --> 0:13:28.720 have a runaway of bureaucracy. It's Congress's job to protect us. 0:13:28.760 --> 0:13:31.199 They're supposed to be the defense line for the Constitution 0:13:31.280 --> 0:13:33.840 and protecting the people, and I think it's times they 0:13:33.840 --> 0:13:36.640 get back to really focusing on doing the fundamental basics 0:13:36.679 --> 0:13:39.920 of the job. Quick break back with Kelly Chebaca running 0:13:39.960 --> 0:13:46.520 for Senate in Alaska. So many Americans right now are 0:13:46.600 --> 0:13:49.760 feeling the financial pain of the Biden administration, Like the 0:13:49.800 --> 0:13:53.720 intentional decisions the Biden administration has made to horror Americans 0:13:54.160 --> 0:13:56.040 financially and the pain that their experienced. And I was 0:13:56.040 --> 0:13:59.080 reading about your background. So your parents were homeless for 0:13:59.200 --> 0:14:02.600 a little while, and they really fought their way to 0:14:02.760 --> 0:14:05.000 build a better life for for you guys and for 0:14:05.040 --> 0:14:06.800 your family. You were the first person in your family 0:14:06.840 --> 0:14:09.199 to go to college and then law school. I think 0:14:09.200 --> 0:14:11.240 one of the biggest problems with d C right now, 0:14:11.600 --> 0:14:13.560 there's a lot of these guys and and you know 0:14:13.800 --> 0:14:17.640 women in instance of Murkowski, they're immune to the policies 0:14:17.679 --> 0:14:20.680 that they're implementing. But with your background, it seems like 0:14:20.720 --> 0:14:23.680 you would understand a lot of the suffering that's going 0:14:23.680 --> 0:14:25.920 onto the country right now. Talk a little bit about that, 0:14:26.840 --> 0:14:29.560 at least I think you put it well. Energy policy 0:14:29.760 --> 0:14:33.640 and economic policy, Um, this is all family policy and 0:14:33.720 --> 0:14:36.880 worker policy for us right now. You're absolutely right, My 0:14:37.000 --> 0:14:39.960 parents story is very close to home, and for a 0:14:39.960 --> 0:14:43.240 lot of US Alaskans, you can't go from you know, 0:14:43.440 --> 0:14:46.400 place of poverty into the fighting in the working class 0:14:46.880 --> 0:14:51.040 under the economic um burden that the Biden administration is 0:14:51.040 --> 0:14:53.880 placed on this and Murkowski's helps with that. They've added 0:14:53.880 --> 0:14:57.560 five trillion to the national debts since Biden has been president, 0:14:57.640 --> 0:15:01.080 and Murkowski has enabled that and voted for trillions of 0:15:01.080 --> 0:15:04.640 that in spending that really hurts our pocketbooks in Alaska. 0:15:04.680 --> 0:15:07.120 We're eating the food that we canned and caught and 0:15:07.240 --> 0:15:09.680 killed because we have to. And no other state in 0:15:09.680 --> 0:15:13.239 the nation has been targeted for shutdown like the Biden administration, 0:15:13.240 --> 0:15:16.160 and Murkowski has enabled that. Like you said, she cast 0:15:16.560 --> 0:15:19.840 the tie breaking vote for the radical environmentalists in Biden's 0:15:19.840 --> 0:15:25.240 administration who has completely sabotaged our economy and killed our jobs. 0:15:25.240 --> 0:15:28.760 And we are feeling it. And when you don't understand 0:15:28.840 --> 0:15:31.200 the consequence of the votes that you're making, you don't 0:15:31.240 --> 0:15:34.960 understand that politics is personal. Is personal for us out 0:15:35.000 --> 0:15:37.600 here and the real world living it on the ground, 0:15:37.640 --> 0:15:40.640 and we're not looking for politicians, We're looking for public servants, 0:15:40.640 --> 0:15:42.920 the people who understand that you're supposed to serve us 0:15:43.400 --> 0:15:45.880 and make things easier and better for us, and not 0:15:46.040 --> 0:15:48.320 just do what makes you popular in DC with your 0:15:48.360 --> 0:15:51.320 friend Joe Biden or your friend Mitch McConnell. And we're 0:15:51.360 --> 0:15:54.200 tired of paying the price for Murkowski's popularity in DC. 0:15:54.400 --> 0:15:57.000 We're looking for someone who's going to make life easier 0:15:57.000 --> 0:15:59.200 and better for us and not send us backwards and 0:15:59.240 --> 0:16:02.640 make things harder. How much damage has Joe Biden done 0:16:02.720 --> 0:16:05.880 to Alaska's energy industry. I don't even think we could 0:16:05.920 --> 0:16:09.400 quantify it. I mean, it's it's devastating. I get these 0:16:09.400 --> 0:16:11.960 texts all the time. People can't pay for gas and 0:16:11.960 --> 0:16:15.160 groceries this week. We are terrified about how we're going 0:16:15.240 --> 0:16:18.400 to pay for our heating in our homes. And I'll 0:16:18.400 --> 0:16:21.360 feed our kids this this winter. We I mean where 0:16:21.360 --> 0:16:23.600 I am right now, about on a two week road 0:16:23.640 --> 0:16:26.520 trip um doing Galt to Vote rallies and stopping in 0:16:26.600 --> 0:16:28.920 diners and knocking on doors in every community. I'm about 0:16:28.920 --> 0:16:31.040 to go knock on bars right now in a little 0:16:31.040 --> 0:16:34.320 town called Delta Junction. It's nine degrees and it's October. 0:16:34.720 --> 0:16:36.960 We haven't even hit the dead of winter yet, but 0:16:37.320 --> 0:16:40.400 we have had our industries completely shut down. Oil and 0:16:40.480 --> 0:16:43.680 gas and mining and timber. We don't have fish running 0:16:43.720 --> 0:16:45.960 in our our rivers and streams, and we live off 0:16:45.960 --> 0:16:48.840 the fish to feed our families. Everything is shut down 0:16:49.040 --> 0:16:52.240 and and it's we're in a panic at this point, Lisa, 0:16:52.640 --> 0:16:55.280 that's how bad it is. But again, the decisions that 0:16:55.320 --> 0:16:57.640 are being made up here by the Biden administration are 0:16:57.680 --> 0:17:00.280 being made by these radical nominees that have been firmed 0:17:00.280 --> 0:17:02.800 by our senator. And that's what hurts is it was 0:17:03.040 --> 0:17:05.679 our senator and our leader who made these decisions. It 0:17:05.680 --> 0:17:09.119 feels like a complete betrayal. And this affects all of America. 0:17:09.440 --> 0:17:11.800 You see in Alaska, our oil and gas it could 0:17:11.840 --> 0:17:15.359 power America, and our minerals that can advance America. And 0:17:15.359 --> 0:17:17.679 stead we're going over to China. Our our timber and 0:17:17.720 --> 0:17:21.320 our logs can build America. Our fish can feed America. 0:17:21.680 --> 0:17:25.080 Our national security posture, we're able to protect America. Of course, 0:17:25.080 --> 0:17:27.879 our tourism inspires America. But we are not able to 0:17:27.920 --> 0:17:30.200 do any of that when the Biden administration has shut 0:17:30.240 --> 0:17:33.159 us down with twenty six direct executive actions leveled at 0:17:33.240 --> 0:17:36.960 us to harm us and sabotage our economy, crush our families, 0:17:37.280 --> 0:17:40.760 and you know, kill our jobs and workers. We can't 0:17:40.760 --> 0:17:42.800 do any of that without bold leadership in d C 0:17:43.040 --> 0:17:45.240 that won't be silenced and won't be bullied by this 0:17:45.320 --> 0:17:48.840 Biden administration. This Senate seat affects every person in America 0:17:49.200 --> 0:17:52.000 because I believe Alaska is the foundation for a strong America. 0:17:52.080 --> 0:17:54.040 And that's the thing. I mean, Republicans we need to 0:17:54.080 --> 0:17:57.800 win back the Senate, but we also need Republicans who 0:17:57.840 --> 0:18:00.399 are going to hold the Biden administrations feed to a fire, 0:18:00.480 --> 0:18:02.840 because you know, what's the point of having a Republican 0:18:02.840 --> 0:18:05.080 in name only if they're if they're not getting the 0:18:05.160 --> 0:18:06.840 job done, or they're not going to stand up for 0:18:06.880 --> 0:18:10.480 Alaskans or Republicans around the country as well. Yeah, that's 0:18:10.520 --> 0:18:14.640 absolutely right, and we've got to have a defense line. 0:18:14.640 --> 0:18:17.760 If you will this looking out for America first, and 0:18:18.000 --> 0:18:19.920 if your listeners want to help, I'm at Kelly for 0:18:20.119 --> 0:18:21.800 a k dot com. We need all the help we 0:18:21.840 --> 0:18:24.120 can get. Every little bit will help in these last 0:18:24.119 --> 0:18:26.480 couple of days because it's it's all boots on the 0:18:26.480 --> 0:18:28.399 ground at this point. We can win this Fennessy, And 0:18:28.400 --> 0:18:30.760 they're saying the sentence is going to be close to tide, 0:18:30.920 --> 0:18:33.639 and this this seat is often the deciding vote. You know, 0:18:33.720 --> 0:18:36.800 she opposed Brett Kavanaugh, and she joined the Democrats and 0:18:36.800 --> 0:18:39.480 filibustering Amy Coney Barrett. But she was one of those 0:18:39.560 --> 0:18:42.320 key votes hit to get Biden's Kitangi Brown Jackson over 0:18:42.359 --> 0:18:45.159 the finish line. And these are just appalling votes for us. 0:18:45.200 --> 0:18:47.520 These are not in line with Alaska values. Definitely not 0:18:47.600 --> 0:18:50.680 helpful for America. First once she voted to impeach Donald 0:18:50.720 --> 0:18:54.960 Trump as well. Uh, you know, Americans are also just 0:18:55.040 --> 0:18:58.560 saying our values attacked as a country and just the 0:18:58.600 --> 0:19:01.160 way of life change that what we believe in who 0:19:01.160 --> 0:19:03.480 we are as a society. I mean, we see Democrats 0:19:03.960 --> 0:19:07.800 cheering on the mutilation of children. Uh no longer is 0:19:07.840 --> 0:19:10.959 their stance on abortion safe, legal and rarer. They support 0:19:11.000 --> 0:19:14.480 abortion up until the moment of birth. Just the indoctrination 0:19:14.920 --> 0:19:18.560 of kids and a lot of these schools. So what 0:19:18.640 --> 0:19:21.000 are your thoughts and just where we stand as a 0:19:21.040 --> 0:19:25.159 country from a value standpoint. I think there's uh, it 0:19:25.240 --> 0:19:28.359 seems to be like a value battle kind of raging. 0:19:28.400 --> 0:19:31.040 But it's it seems to be prompted by people who 0:19:31.040 --> 0:19:33.800 are just trying to divide us. When I'm out, you know, 0:19:33.880 --> 0:19:37.200 knocking doors and talking to real Alaskans. I don't actually 0:19:37.200 --> 0:19:41.520 see that much division in society, and in real society, 0:19:41.920 --> 0:19:44.760 we actually agree on most things. It seems like there's 0:19:45.760 --> 0:19:49.280 a concerted effort by people who are given a lot 0:19:49.320 --> 0:19:52.320 of media attention and a lot of microphone in an 0:19:52.359 --> 0:19:56.320 attempt to divide us and split up into camps and teams. 0:19:56.359 --> 0:19:59.840 And then what I see is this um, this politics 0:19:59.840 --> 0:20:04.120 of division. It then leads to so much um concerned 0:20:04.320 --> 0:20:08.720 and chaos and confusion that they then are able to 0:20:08.720 --> 0:20:12.080 swoop in with a large government solution, and it sort 0:20:12.080 --> 0:20:16.720 of then feeds into this momentum, this leading towards the 0:20:16.880 --> 0:20:20.560 socialist movement or this communist movement, And I don't think 0:20:20.600 --> 0:20:23.640 that's pro America at all. I think we are as 0:20:23.680 --> 0:20:26.960 a country united in our diversity. That's what the United 0:20:26.960 --> 0:20:29.320 States is supposed to be about. We're allowed to have 0:20:29.400 --> 0:20:32.760 freedom of speech and freedom of ideas, and we're supposed 0:20:32.760 --> 0:20:36.960 to have diversity and even differences, but differences doesn't need 0:20:37.040 --> 0:20:40.679 to be division and discord and hatred, and so I 0:20:40.720 --> 0:20:42.640 don't really ascribe to any of that. I don't really 0:20:42.680 --> 0:20:48.200 ascribe to this um affinity that I'm seeing for discrimination 0:20:48.720 --> 0:20:52.040 and what they seem to be promoting that you know 0:20:52.200 --> 0:20:55.000 that we're going to protect some rights at the expense 0:20:55.040 --> 0:20:57.720 of other people's rights. I don't really like any of 0:20:57.720 --> 0:20:59.520 that that we're seeing, and I don't see how here 0:20:59.520 --> 0:21:02.280 in every day America and every day Alaska, and so 0:21:02.320 --> 0:21:04.159