WEBVTT - Judy Resnick in Space: Full Throttle Up

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<v Speaker 1>It was Tuesday, June twenty sixth, nineteen eighty four, on

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<v Speaker 1>a launchpad in Cape Canaveral, Florida. The Space Shuttle Discovery

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<v Speaker 1>was preparing to take its first voyage into orbit. There

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<v Speaker 1>were six astronauts on board, harnessed into their seats, lying

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<v Speaker 1>on their backs, facing up towards the Cosmos. The hatch

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<v Speaker 1>to the crew compartment closed. The astronauts felt a pop

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<v Speaker 1>in their ears as the cabin pressurized, and then they waited, nervous,

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<v Speaker 1>their chit chat and jokes fading into silence. Soon the

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<v Speaker 1>only sound was the woosh of the cabin fan. At

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<v Speaker 1>t minus two minutes, the astronauts closed the visors on

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<v Speaker 1>their helmets. Good luck everybody, their mission commander said, this

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<v Speaker 1>is it. Do it like we've trained eyes on the instruments.

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<v Speaker 1>At T minus thirty one seconds, Discoveries computers assumed control.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the countdown, so they have a quince start.

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<v Speaker 1>The astronaut hearts were racing. They focused their whole beings

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<v Speaker 1>on what was about to happen, on everything they had

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<v Speaker 1>trained for years to do.

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<v Speaker 2>We have a main engine start.

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<v Speaker 1>At T minus ten seconds, six high pressure turbo pumps

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<v Speaker 1>began to work, sending thousands of pounds of propellant to

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<v Speaker 1>the shuttle's three main engines. At T minus six seconds,

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<v Speaker 1>the cockpit started to shake and rattle violently. The first

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<v Speaker 1>engine headlet. This was it. Liftoff was about to begin,

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<v Speaker 1>and then suddenly the vibrations stopped. The cockpit was as

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<v Speaker 1>silent and eerie as a tomb. The crew knew instantly

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<v Speaker 1>that something was very, very wrong. They were only seconds

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<v Speaker 1>away from lighting the solid rocket boosters, two giant canisters

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<v Speaker 1>of fuel that would propel the shuttle into orbit. If

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<v Speaker 1>they ignited now while the shuttle was still on the

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<v Speaker 1>launch pad, they would generate more than six million pounds

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<v Speaker 1>of thrust. It would rip the shuttle apart. Everyone on

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<v Speaker 1>board would be dead instantly. The astronauts weren't sure exactly

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<v Speaker 1>what was happening, but they knew they were sitting on

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<v Speaker 1>a bomb that might be about to go off. I'm JR. Martinez,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is Metal of Honor Stories of Courage. In

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<v Speaker 1>this episode, you'll meet the recipient of a different kind

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<v Speaker 1>of metal, the Congressional Space Medal of Honor. It was

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<v Speaker 1>authorized by Congress in nineteen sixty nine and since then

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<v Speaker 1>has only been awarded to thirty astronauts. It is given

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<v Speaker 1>to those men and women who distinguish themselves through quote

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<v Speaker 1>exceptionally meritorious efforts and contributions to the welfare of the

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<v Speaker 1>nation and mankind. And just like the Medal of Honor,

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<v Speaker 1>it has to be approved by the President of the

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<v Speaker 1>United States. The Space Medal of Honor doesn't award heroism

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<v Speaker 1>in battle. It rewards the heroism you need if you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to push to the farthest edges of our frontier.

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<v Speaker 1>That heroism tells us every bit as much about the

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<v Speaker 1>nature of courage and sacrifice as the classic Medal of

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<v Speaker 1>Honor does. This story is about Judith Resnik, one of

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<v Speaker 1>the astronauts aboard the Space Shuttle Discovery on that summer

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<v Speaker 1>morning in nineteen eighty four. Judy was a brilliant engineer

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<v Speaker 1>who joined NASA along with five other women in the

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<v Speaker 1>late seventies and went through years of grueling training to

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<v Speaker 1>qualify to be on that shuttle. She was the second

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<v Speaker 1>American woman in space after Sally Ryde, and she understood

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<v Speaker 1>deep in her bones how risky her assignment was, but

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<v Speaker 1>she did it anyway. She persisted through that danger, not

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<v Speaker 1>because she wanted to be a woman in space as

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<v Speaker 1>some kind of token or ceiling breaker. She did it

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<v Speaker 1>because she had a job to do, a job she

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<v Speaker 1>was doing for her country, for all of us. She

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<v Speaker 1>would do that job until the morning she died at

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<v Speaker 1>the age of thirty six, free falling through the clear

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<v Speaker 1>blue winter sky. By the time Judy Resnik decided to

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<v Speaker 1>become an astronaut, she had been the only woman in

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<v Speaker 1>the room literally dozens of times. That's what you got

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<v Speaker 1>from being a female math, genius an engineer in the

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<v Speaker 1>late nineteen sixties and seventies. She was born in Akron, Ohio,

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen forty nine. Her parents were first generation Jewish Americans.

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<v Speaker 1>Judy was exceptional from the start. She trained to be

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<v Speaker 1>a concert pianist, and she was amazing at it. She

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<v Speaker 1>spoke French. She was the only girl in the math

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<v Speaker 1>club in high school. She graduated first in her class,

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<v Speaker 1>and she was accepted early to the famous Juilliard School

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<v Speaker 1>of Music. But then Judy scored an eight hundred on

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<v Speaker 1>the math Porsche of her college SATs, the only female

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<v Speaker 1>high school student in the country that year to achieve

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<v Speaker 1>a perfect score. So she switched gears and enrolled at

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<v Speaker 1>Carnegie Mellon University to study electrical engineering. There were barely

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<v Speaker 1>any other women in the department, but she was getting

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<v Speaker 1>used to that. Judy graduated first in her class and

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<v Speaker 1>promptly started adding to her expertise designing radar control and

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<v Speaker 1>rocketree circuits at RCA, working in biomedical engineering at the

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<v Speaker 1>National Institutes of Health, getting her PhD in electrical engineering

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<v Speaker 1>with honors. But while success came easily, finding something to

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<v Speaker 1>spark her interest was harder. That all changed in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>seventy seven, when NASA finally opened its applications to women.

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<v Speaker 1>Judy was twenty seven. NASA's decision was a long time coming.

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<v Speaker 3>It was American men who first walked in space and

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<v Speaker 3>then set the first human footprints on a planet other

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<v Speaker 3>than Earth, and subsequent flights have remained a sort of

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<v Speaker 3>free floating bachelor party.

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<v Speaker 1>This is from a documentary made in nineteen eighty three.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't tell if it's meant to be funny or what.

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<v Speaker 3>From nineteen sixty until nineteen seventy seven, for reasons that

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<v Speaker 3>will forever remain unclear, NASA was unable to find a

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<v Speaker 3>single qualified woman candidate.

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<v Speaker 1>Or as one woman put it, they trained a Tim

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<v Speaker 1>pan Z to go to space before they trained a

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<v Speaker 1>single female astronaut. Anyways, in the late nineteen seventies, NASA

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<v Speaker 1>had developed this space Shuttle. Unlike the old spacecraft, it

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<v Speaker 1>would be reusable, able to take trips a year, which

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<v Speaker 1>meant NASA would need more astronauts, and so finally women

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<v Speaker 1>were allowed in the door. Judy wasn't really that interested

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<v Speaker 1>in space until she happened to see the NASA recruitment

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<v Speaker 1>noticed on some bulletin board. This is Judy.

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<v Speaker 4>I decided to apply to be an astronaut when I

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<v Speaker 4>was a graduate student finishing up my research work. It

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<v Speaker 4>was not something that I had planned to do for

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<v Speaker 4>my whole life. It was a case of being in

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<v Speaker 4>the right place at the right time. NASA was advertising

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<v Speaker 4>for astronauts at the time that I was looking for

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<v Speaker 4>a job.

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<v Speaker 1>If she made it sound easy, it wasn't. More than

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<v Speaker 1>eight thousand people applied to become astronauts that year. Of those,

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<v Speaker 1>a little over a thousand were women. Judy worked hard

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<v Speaker 1>to stand out from the crowd, reaching out to astronaut

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<v Speaker 1>John Glenn an Apollo eleven pilot Michael and to learn

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<v Speaker 1>more about the space program. She got a pilot's license,

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<v Speaker 1>and while she waited to hear from NASA, she moved

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<v Speaker 1>to California and took a job with Xerox. Soon enough,

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<v Speaker 1>she was one of two hundred finalists invited to the

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<v Speaker 1>Johnson Space Center in Houston. Of those two hundred, only

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<v Speaker 1>twenty one were women. Judy submitted to a week of

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<v Speaker 1>interviews to physical test and mental ones. NASA recruiters needed

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<v Speaker 1>to know if these potential astronauts would respond badly to stress.

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<v Speaker 1>In January of nineteen seventy eight, Judy got the news

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<v Speaker 1>she would be one of six women accepted into the program.

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<v Speaker 1>At the press conference, she stepped onto the stage and

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<v Speaker 1>smoothed her skirt. She had straightened her dark, curly hair

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<v Speaker 1>and wore a nervous smile on her face.

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<v Speaker 5>Mission Specialist. Her residence is Redondo Beach, California. Her present

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<v Speaker 5>position is engineering staff product development with the Xerox Corporation.

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<v Speaker 5>El Segunde.

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<v Speaker 1>Judy moved to Houston with the rest of the thirty

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<v Speaker 1>five newly minted astronauts. She would train as a mission specialist.

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<v Speaker 6>The mission specialist does things associated with the experiments on

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<v Speaker 6>board or deploying the satellites, while the pilots do most

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<v Speaker 6>of the flying of the orbiter.

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<v Speaker 1>While she might not be flying the shuttle, the training

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<v Speaker 1>was still brutal and it would last for years. More

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<v Speaker 1>than any other of the six women, Judy was determined

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<v Speaker 1>to be seen as one of the boys. As she

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<v Speaker 1>once told her father quote that I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>be a Jewish astronaut. I don't want to be a

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<v Speaker 1>Jewish woman astronaut. US want to be an astronaut period.

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<v Speaker 1>I just wanted to go in space and do my job.

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<v Speaker 1>A few years into her training, Tom Broker asked her

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<v Speaker 1>what it was like to break into that old boys club.

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<v Speaker 7>Once you got into the program, wasn't there a little

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<v Speaker 7>bit of resentment or a little bit of male chauvinism

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<v Speaker 7>that was demonstrated to that's.

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<v Speaker 1>A very male kind of fighter pilot world as you

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<v Speaker 1>were in Rick.

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<v Speaker 2>Not at all.

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<v Speaker 8>As a matter of fact, I think everybody leaned over

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<v Speaker 8>backwards to make sure that we were treated as equal

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<v Speaker 8>right from the beginning.

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<v Speaker 1>This, of course, was not entirely true. Mike mullane was

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<v Speaker 1>also a mission specialist in Judy's class of astronauts, and

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<v Speaker 1>he remembers the men oggling her, teasing her with dirty jokes.

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<v Speaker 1>It sounds like training with a bunch of teenagers. One

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<v Speaker 1>time the guys put a live grass snake in her back.

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<v Speaker 1>They waited in the other room to hear her open

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<v Speaker 1>her purse, and which she did. I would have but

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<v Speaker 1>they respected her brilliance and reliability. Mulane has served as

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<v Speaker 1>an Air Force colonel before he joined NASA. He was

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<v Speaker 1>pretty tough. He had flown one hundred and thirty four

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<v Speaker 1>combat missions in Vietnam, and he remembers Judy this way quote.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd watched her fly formation from the backseat of T

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<v Speaker 1>thirty eight's and lead instrument approaches in bad weather and

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<v Speaker 1>do it as well as me. I'd washed a repel

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<v Speaker 1>off the side of the orbiter mock up in our

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<v Speaker 1>emergency training, parascel into the water in our survival training,

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<v Speaker 1>worked twenty feet underwater in a three hundred pounds spacesuit

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<v Speaker 1>in simulation. After simulation, she had instantly and correctly reacted

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<v Speaker 1>to countless emergencies. The other astronauts felt that they could

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<v Speaker 1>trust Judy with their lives. Plus, she was a really

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<v Speaker 1>good time. Here's Rhea Seddon, who is one of the

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<v Speaker 1>first female astronauts.

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<v Speaker 9>She was really really bright, obviously very beautiful person, flirtatious, funny.

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<v Speaker 9>You know, if she was just a live wire, you know,

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<v Speaker 9>we would do the Happy Hours or we'd go on

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<v Speaker 9>these NASA trips, and Judy was just a star attraction.

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<v Speaker 9>She was just having a great time and was obviously

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<v Speaker 9>friends with everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>NASA kept sending her out to do press, which Judy hated.

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<v Speaker 1>Journalists would ask her personal questions, questions they would never

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<v Speaker 1>ask a male astronaut like this Jim from tom Brookaw.

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<v Speaker 5>Are there discussions on Houston about what happens.

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<v Speaker 7>When men and women go into space for the first

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<v Speaker 7>time together? After all, if you're up there.

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<v Speaker 5>In some kind of a prolonged space mission.

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<v Speaker 7>And there may be even relationships that will develop between

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<v Speaker 7>men and women.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, I think from our point of view, since we're

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<v Speaker 8>so used to working together professionally, that we look at

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<v Speaker 8>each other as profession colleagues on the ground, in orbit

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<v Speaker 8>and whatever, and we view it that way. Period.

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<v Speaker 7>You think the time will come when there will be

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<v Speaker 7>a romance in the outer space, then oh gee, I

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<v Speaker 7>really couldn't tell.

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<v Speaker 1>You that, Tom, what are you doing? Understandably, Judy started

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<v Speaker 1>to avoid the press. She sometimes would hide from reporters,

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<v Speaker 1>using her fellow astronauts as human shields. And then at

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<v Speaker 1>the start of nineteen eighty two, it became clear that

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<v Speaker 1>NASA was going to assign a woman to a shuttle crew.

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<v Speaker 1>Whoever it was would become the first American woman in space.

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<v Speaker 1>The female astronauts were more than ready. Judy had a

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<v Speaker 1>bright pink bumper sticker made that read a Woman's place

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<v Speaker 1>is in the cockpit. It looked like it was going

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<v Speaker 1>to come down to either her or Sally Ride. Ride

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<v Speaker 1>was a brilliant physicist and PhD who had married a

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<v Speaker 1>fellow astronaut. Sally was comfortable with the press, calm and

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<v Speaker 1>well spoken on TV. And then there was Judy, equally

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<v Speaker 1>brilliant but single, who cursed like a sailor, went out

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<v Speaker 1>dancing in nightclubs, and rolled her eyes whenever her gender

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<v Speaker 1>became part of the conversation. The decision, unfortunately, was probably

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<v Speaker 1>pretty clear. In April of nineteen eighty two, NASA announced

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<v Speaker 1>that Sally Ride would be the first American woman astronaut

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<v Speaker 1>in space. It would be two long years before Judy

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<v Speaker 1>would have her first brush with space. That day, when

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<v Speaker 1>Discovery's engines shut down on the launchpad and Judy realized

0:16:54.200 --> 0:17:14.400
<v Speaker 1>she might be about to die. In nineteen eighty four,

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<v Speaker 1>Judy Resnek was finally scheduled for emission to space. It

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<v Speaker 1>would be Discovery's maiden voyage, although, as Judy joked with

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<v Speaker 1>the other five astronauts, who were all men, quote, there

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<v Speaker 1>are no maidens on this voyage. Judy, as an expert engineer,

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<v Speaker 1>specialized in the operation of the mechanical arm, which was

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<v Speaker 1>controlled from within the cockpit but located outside the orbiter.

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<v Speaker 1>It was used to lift solar panels and position satellites.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's Judy describing what the team would be doing with

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<v Speaker 1>the arm during a TV interview.

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<v Speaker 4>The remote Manipulator Arm will be used to take large satellites,

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<v Speaker 4>for example, out of the cargo bay and put them

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<v Speaker 4>into orb but the orbiter will act much like a bus,

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<v Speaker 4>and the satellite will be getting off at it's bus stop,

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<v Speaker 4>so to speak. We get to the right place in

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<v Speaker 4>the right time, and we'll pick it up with the arm,

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<v Speaker 4>and we'll put it where we want to let go,

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<v Speaker 4>and then back the orbiter away and leave it there.

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<v Speaker 1>Operating the arm took incredible skill. Here's Tom Brokaw again

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<v Speaker 1>talking about Judy on a news broadcast.

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<v Speaker 7>Despite her protestations that she couldn't do things better than

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<v Speaker 7>some of the men, all and men told me that

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<v Speaker 7>when she operated that big arm at the back of

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<v Speaker 7>the payload, she had a great touch, that she had

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<v Speaker 7>real dexterity.

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<v Speaker 1>Discovery was set to launch in June. A few days

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<v Speaker 1>before lift off, Judy and a friend discussed who would

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<v Speaker 1>inherit her things if the mission went wrong and she

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<v Speaker 1>didn't return. Her friend asked if she was ready for

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<v Speaker 1>the risk, and Judy replied, quote, oh yeah, I know

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<v Speaker 1>what's involved, but it was about to become very real

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<v Speaker 1>for her. The astronauts boarded the Shuttle in the early

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<v Speaker 1>morning of June twenty fifth, but there was a problem

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<v Speaker 1>with the backup flight system computer. The liftoff was scrubbed

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<v Speaker 1>and rescheduled for the following day, that was June twenty sixth.

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<v Speaker 1>Same drew an early morning wake up entry through the hatch,

0:19:22.200 --> 0:19:28.119
<v Speaker 1>the astronaut's ears popping as the cabin was depressurized. Judy's father, brother,

0:19:28.200 --> 0:19:31.960
<v Speaker 1>and mother were watching from the Lodge Control Center, located

0:19:32.000 --> 0:19:35.640
<v Speaker 1>three miles from the launch site, at a safe distance

0:19:35.680 --> 0:19:43.879
<v Speaker 1>from any potential explosion. Then came countdown fifteen. The propellant

0:19:43.960 --> 0:19:48.480
<v Speaker 1>flowed to the solid rocket boosters, that pair of giant

0:19:48.600 --> 0:19:52.520
<v Speaker 1>rockets connected to either side of the orbiter, which provided

0:19:52.640 --> 0:19:56.320
<v Speaker 1>eighty five percent of the Space Shuttle's thrust at liftoff,

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<v Speaker 1>and for the first two minutes of a cent we

0:20:00.720 --> 0:20:09.400
<v Speaker 1>have main engines start and then the terrifying silence. Everyone

0:20:09.600 --> 0:20:13.080
<v Speaker 1>on board the shuttle was worried that the solid rocket

0:20:13.080 --> 0:20:15.879
<v Speaker 1>boosters would ignite when they were still on the ground,

0:20:16.720 --> 0:20:21.720
<v Speaker 1>tearing the shuttle apart. And then they heard crackling over

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<v Speaker 1>the intercom. There's a small fire on the launchpad. Here's

0:20:27.800 --> 0:20:31.000
<v Speaker 1>Mike Mullane, who was on that flight with Judy.

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<v Speaker 10>And I'll never forget thinking there's no such thing as

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<v Speaker 10>a small fire when you're sitting on four million pounds

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<v Speaker 10>of repellent. That was a real terror. Hear the word fire.

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<v Speaker 10>That's the scaredest I think I've probably ever been in

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<v Speaker 10>my life, sitting out there wondering what the heck's going

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<v Speaker 10>on with that fire on the launch pad.

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<v Speaker 1>In the grandstands, spectators had seen a bright flash as

0:20:53.600 --> 0:20:58.080
<v Speaker 1>the engines ignited. Some were convinced that they had seen

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<v Speaker 1>an explosion. Judy's mother bent her head and rested it

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<v Speaker 1>in her hands. It looked like she was praying. Water

0:21:08.080 --> 0:21:12.119
<v Speaker 1>began to spray against the shuttle windows. The crew unstrapped

0:21:12.160 --> 0:21:14.959
<v Speaker 1>from their seats and debated opening the hatch to make

0:21:15.000 --> 0:21:18.960
<v Speaker 1>an emergency escape. They didn't know that the fire outside

0:21:19.000 --> 0:21:25.400
<v Speaker 1>the shuttle was hydrogen, and hydrogen fires are invisible. They

0:21:25.520 --> 0:21:30.840
<v Speaker 1>might have unknowingly exited the hatch directly into the flames.

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<v Speaker 1>Fortunately they decided to wait. It was more than forty

0:21:37.359 --> 0:21:41.720
<v Speaker 1>minutes before the astronauts finally got out, but they survived.

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<v Speaker 1>At the press conference afterwards, they did what they had

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<v Speaker 1>been trained to do. They lied, and they said that

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<v Speaker 1>they hadn't been afraid at all. Judy said, quote, I

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<v Speaker 1>was disappointed, but I was relieved that the safety systems

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<v Speaker 1>do work. It was unfortunate that we had to check

0:22:00.600 --> 0:22:04.240
<v Speaker 1>them out, but it built confidence in the whole system.

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<v Speaker 1>In truth, the astronauts hadn't just been terrified of the

0:22:09.119 --> 0:22:13.920
<v Speaker 1>rockets blowing them apart or of the fire. Lift off

0:22:14.080 --> 0:22:18.880
<v Speaker 1>itself was dangerous, and the Shuttle wasn't designed with any

0:22:18.920 --> 0:22:22.040
<v Speaker 1>way for the crew to escape once it was airborne.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's Mike Mulane talking about the Shuttle on a Performance

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<v Speaker 1>Initiative podcast. He makes it so clear why the Shuttle

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<v Speaker 1>launch was terrifying for everyone on board. We didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>any way of bailing out of a shuttle. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not gonna be able to bail out.

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<v Speaker 11>Of it in space or anything, but in the atmosphere,

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<v Speaker 11>if you had an escape system, you know, some type

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<v Speaker 11>of injection seats or pots or something, you might be

0:22:45.480 --> 0:22:47.520
<v Speaker 11>able to survive. But Shuttle didn't have any of that.

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<v Speaker 11>So fear is very very high on Shuttle launch.

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<v Speaker 1>No way to escape, just let that sink in. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>had intellectually known the risk of what she was doing,

0:23:04.200 --> 0:23:08.399
<v Speaker 1>but now I'm sure she really felt it. And yet

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<v Speaker 1>on August thirtieth, nineteen eighty four, when NASA made its

0:23:13.680 --> 0:23:18.959
<v Speaker 1>fourth attempt to launch Discovery. She was there and this

0:23:19.119 --> 0:23:23.160
<v Speaker 1>time lift off went exactly as planned.

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<v Speaker 2>Three two when wed that's our reignition, and we had

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<v Speaker 2>lifted off, lifted off, and n D the first flight

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<v Speaker 2>and labor in the Discovery and the tuttle had cleared

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<v Speaker 2>the power.

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<v Speaker 1>Judy Resnik became the second American woman in space. She

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<v Speaker 1>released satellites into orbit and conducted experiments on a giant

0:23:47.320 --> 0:23:48.679
<v Speaker 1>folding solar panel.

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<v Speaker 4>This is the largest structure ever deployed in space. All

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<v Speaker 4>in all, it was a good flight test for large

0:23:54.280 --> 0:23:57.879
<v Speaker 4>space structures with potential future use in either space based

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<v Speaker 4>construction or in space station operations.

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<v Speaker 1>Zero gravity turned Judy's curly hair into a cloud. She

0:24:05.800 --> 0:24:10.720
<v Speaker 1>had on gold rimmed aviator sunglasses and those short shorts

0:24:10.840 --> 0:24:17.280
<v Speaker 1>everyone wore in the eighties. She looked well glamorous. Back

0:24:17.320 --> 0:24:20.639
<v Speaker 1>on Earth, people weren't happy about that, but Judy was

0:24:20.720 --> 0:24:26.640
<v Speaker 1>just being herself as usual. While Discovery was circling our

0:24:26.720 --> 0:24:31.400
<v Speaker 1>planet at five miles per second, the crew filmed themselves,

0:24:31.440 --> 0:24:34.840
<v Speaker 1>eating and sleeping, even running on a treadmill.

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<v Speaker 4>Exercise was part of our daily routine on orbit, just

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<v Speaker 4>like it is back here on Earth. Getting set up

0:24:40.800 --> 0:24:42.920
<v Speaker 4>on the treadmill takes a little bit longer on orbit,

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<v Speaker 4>but it feels just as good to quit.

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<v Speaker 1>But there was one episode that did it make the

0:24:50.320 --> 0:24:53.960
<v Speaker 1>highlight real. The crew had been sent up with an

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<v Speaker 1>Imax camera. While it was filming, the camera caught a

0:24:58.040 --> 0:25:02.439
<v Speaker 1>lock of Judy's hair and so into the mechanics. Judy

0:25:02.560 --> 0:25:06.399
<v Speaker 1>was upset, but not because the other astronauts had to

0:25:06.440 --> 0:25:08.520
<v Speaker 1>cut off a chunk of her hair to set her free.

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<v Speaker 10>Let me tell you, the press had the women under

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<v Speaker 10>a microscope and were looking for the slightest indication that

0:25:17.000 --> 0:25:20.439
<v Speaker 10>a woman was different than a man, and as a result,

0:25:20.480 --> 0:25:25.199
<v Speaker 10>the women were paranoid about displaying anything anything that would

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<v Speaker 10>remotely be construed as, Oh, you're different than a man.

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Mulane remembers that when Judy's hair jammed up the camera,

0:25:36.480 --> 0:25:40.600
<v Speaker 1>the commander, Hank Hartsfield said he would call down to

0:25:40.720 --> 0:25:43.439
<v Speaker 1>mission control and tell them they were going to have

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<v Speaker 1>problems filming for the day.

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<v Speaker 10>And Judy looked at him and I don't remember her

0:25:48.800 --> 0:25:51.040
<v Speaker 10>exact words, but basically it was, you know, I'm going

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<v Speaker 10>to cut your heart out if you so much as

0:25:53.280 --> 0:25:55.560
<v Speaker 10>say a word over the air. About my hair getting

0:25:55.560 --> 0:25:57.560
<v Speaker 10>caught in this thing. To us it was baffling, like

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<v Speaker 10>why it's the big deal, But it quickly bec came

0:26:00.200 --> 0:26:03.120
<v Speaker 10>apparent to us. What her concern was is that if

0:26:03.160 --> 0:26:06.560
<v Speaker 10>that was blabbed to the whole world, it would be

0:26:06.640 --> 0:26:08.800
<v Speaker 10>the thing. It wouldn't matter how well Judy did on

0:26:08.840 --> 0:26:11.119
<v Speaker 10>the mission, all the things she did, she would be

0:26:11.160 --> 0:26:14.320
<v Speaker 10>remembered as the woman who had her hair that jeopardized

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<v Speaker 10>the imaxian that you know, women are different than me

0:26:16.920 --> 0:26:18.840
<v Speaker 10>and their hair as long, you know that type of thing,

0:26:18.880 --> 0:26:20.240
<v Speaker 10>that's what the press would pick up on.

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<v Speaker 1>She knew it. They fixed the camera and after six

0:26:24.680 --> 0:26:31.159
<v Speaker 1>days they returned home. Judy was thrilled. Surely now she

0:26:31.240 --> 0:26:35.520
<v Speaker 1>would be seen as an astronaut, not a woman astronaut.

0:26:36.800 --> 0:26:40.480
<v Speaker 1>But very soon the whole world would know her name

0:26:41.160 --> 0:27:01.359
<v Speaker 1>for a different reason. In nineteen eighty one, Judy got

0:27:01.440 --> 0:27:03.959
<v Speaker 1>the news that she had been hoping for. She was

0:27:04.000 --> 0:27:07.919
<v Speaker 1>scheduled for a second mission to space. It wasn't just

0:27:07.960 --> 0:27:11.919
<v Speaker 1>because she had shown again and again how brilliant and

0:27:12.040 --> 0:27:17.240
<v Speaker 1>professional she was. It was also because, to boosts public excitement,

0:27:17.760 --> 0:27:21.199
<v Speaker 1>NASA had decided to invite a civilian to join the mission.

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<v Speaker 1>Her name was Krista mccauliffe, a teacher from New Hampshire,

0:27:27.400 --> 0:27:30.399
<v Speaker 1>and they wanted a seasoned female astronaut to be on

0:27:30.440 --> 0:27:33.760
<v Speaker 1>the flight with her. They would be on the Space

0:27:33.800 --> 0:27:40.080
<v Speaker 1>Shuttle called Challenger. Judy, like most of the astronauts in

0:27:40.119 --> 0:27:44.040
<v Speaker 1>the Shuttle program, was initially skeptical about sending a civilian

0:27:44.080 --> 0:27:49.240
<v Speaker 1>into orbit, but she soon realized how alone and overwhelmed

0:27:49.400 --> 0:27:53.040
<v Speaker 1>mccaulloff felt, so she set up a series of coffee

0:27:53.080 --> 0:27:57.600
<v Speaker 1>dates and taught mccauliff about celestial mechanics and how the

0:27:57.720 --> 0:28:01.760
<v Speaker 1>combustion of the Shuttle's engines worked. She told her quote,

0:28:02.280 --> 0:28:06.000
<v Speaker 1>it's not as hard as they make it sound. Judy

0:28:06.200 --> 0:28:09.320
<v Speaker 1>was the only astronaut picked for the Challenger mission who

0:28:09.359 --> 0:28:13.800
<v Speaker 1>had experienced that brush with death on Discovery, and yet

0:28:14.240 --> 0:28:17.440
<v Speaker 1>she had total confidence in the Shuttle and in the program.

0:28:18.160 --> 0:28:20.879
<v Speaker 1>Here's a clip of her from an interview around that time.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you a bit scared?

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<v Speaker 9>No, I'm not scared.

0:28:26.800 --> 0:28:27.119
<v Speaker 10>Why not?

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<v Speaker 4>We trained so heavily for all the contingencies, and we're

0:28:31.880 --> 0:28:35.040
<v Speaker 4>so familiar with the procedures that we can almost do

0:28:35.119 --> 0:28:35.800
<v Speaker 4>them in our sleep.

0:28:36.920 --> 0:28:40.400
<v Speaker 1>But there were things that NASA and the engineers at

0:28:40.400 --> 0:28:44.480
<v Speaker 1>Morton Diacol, the company that made the solid rocket boosters,

0:28:45.080 --> 0:28:50.160
<v Speaker 1>didn't tell the astronauts think of the rockets kind of

0:28:50.240 --> 0:28:54.680
<v Speaker 1>like a giant stack of metal cans filled with highly

0:28:54.800 --> 0:29:00.880
<v Speaker 1>explosive propellant. Morton Diacol had designed thirteen foot ubber gaskets

0:29:00.920 --> 0:29:04.480
<v Speaker 1>called O rings to seal the joints of those cans

0:29:04.880 --> 0:29:08.880
<v Speaker 1>and keep the gas inside from leaking. If the O

0:29:09.080 --> 0:29:12.880
<v Speaker 1>rings did it work, hot gas would escape through the

0:29:12.920 --> 0:29:18.880
<v Speaker 1>casing of the rocket, causing an explosion, burning through everything

0:29:19.760 --> 0:29:26.040
<v Speaker 1>and everyone inside the shuttle. After Judy's first flight on Discovery,

0:29:26.400 --> 0:29:30.320
<v Speaker 1>the engineers who inspected the rockets were alarmed to see

0:29:30.360 --> 0:29:33.800
<v Speaker 1>that the O rings had traces of such between them.

0:29:34.240 --> 0:29:38.000
<v Speaker 1>That meant that for a few moments at least, the

0:29:38.040 --> 0:29:42.480
<v Speaker 1>O rings had failed to seal, and as Shuttle missions

0:29:42.560 --> 0:29:45.360
<v Speaker 1>kept flying, it was clear that the issue with the

0:29:45.480 --> 0:29:50.720
<v Speaker 1>rocket booster joints was getting worse. There was one particular

0:29:50.800 --> 0:29:55.600
<v Speaker 1>cause for concern, cold weather, which could make the O

0:29:55.760 --> 0:30:00.480
<v Speaker 1>rings more brittle. A brittle O ring would be too

0:30:00.640 --> 0:30:04.520
<v Speaker 1>inflexible to create that all important seal that kept the

0:30:04.640 --> 0:30:09.120
<v Speaker 1>gas from leaking out. But of course, the shuttle launched

0:30:09.120 --> 0:30:13.840
<v Speaker 1>from southern Florida freezing temperatures weren't supposed to be part

0:30:13.840 --> 0:30:18.520
<v Speaker 1>of the deal at all. The engineers and Morton thiacol

0:30:19.040 --> 0:30:22.560
<v Speaker 1>knew that in order to really address the issue, they

0:30:22.600 --> 0:30:27.640
<v Speaker 1>would have to take the shuttles offline, but this felt impossible.

0:30:28.640 --> 0:30:31.840
<v Speaker 1>For one thing, there was pressure within NASA to prove

0:30:31.880 --> 0:30:36.200
<v Speaker 1>that the Shuttle really could operate almost like an airplane

0:30:36.760 --> 0:30:42.000
<v Speaker 1>flying regular missions into space. The launch scheduled was already

0:30:42.000 --> 0:30:46.320
<v Speaker 1>played with delays and cost overruns. Add to that the

0:30:46.440 --> 0:30:51.400
<v Speaker 1>public excitement over the Teacher in Space program, which put

0:30:51.480 --> 0:30:57.040
<v Speaker 1>even more pressure on NASA to get the Shuttle aloft. Judy,

0:30:57.640 --> 0:31:01.800
<v Speaker 1>like all the astronauts, knew that ASSO would do whatever

0:31:01.960 --> 0:31:07.000
<v Speaker 1>it took to make Challenger launch on time. She even

0:31:07.080 --> 0:31:08.600
<v Speaker 1>joked with Tom Brokaw about it.

0:31:09.200 --> 0:31:11.400
<v Speaker 7>I had an enthusiastic letter from her saying that she

0:31:11.440 --> 0:31:12.960
<v Speaker 7>was hoping I could come down and watch this one

0:31:12.960 --> 0:31:14.680
<v Speaker 7>because she was sure was going to go off on schedule.

0:31:14.680 --> 0:31:17.840
<v Speaker 7>We used to have a running dialogue about whether NASA

0:31:17.880 --> 0:31:19.120
<v Speaker 7>could keep to a schedule or not.

0:31:20.120 --> 0:31:24.800
<v Speaker 1>But Judy was wrong. Liftoff was initially scheduled for January

0:31:24.880 --> 0:31:32.200
<v Speaker 1>twenty second, nineteen eighty six. That was postponed again, and

0:31:32.240 --> 0:31:39.160
<v Speaker 1>then again Finally, on January twenty seventh, it looked like

0:31:39.280 --> 0:31:43.600
<v Speaker 1>Challenger would launch. The crew made it inside the shuttle,

0:31:44.240 --> 0:31:47.440
<v Speaker 1>strapped in, and then they were delayed by an issue

0:31:47.440 --> 0:31:50.400
<v Speaker 1>with the handle on the hatch. By the time it

0:31:50.480 --> 0:31:53.880
<v Speaker 1>was fixed, the winds had kicked up and the launch

0:31:54.000 --> 0:31:57.680
<v Speaker 1>was scrubbed for the day, which brings us to Tuesday,

0:31:58.200 --> 0:32:02.479
<v Speaker 1>January twenty eighth. The Challenger was scheduled to launch at

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<v Speaker 1>nine thirty eight am, but the forecast looked bad a

0:32:07.880 --> 0:32:12.760
<v Speaker 1>record breaking cold snap by the night before. It was

0:32:12.840 --> 0:32:16.720
<v Speaker 1>clear to the engineers at Morton Thiocoll that the shuttles

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<v Speaker 1>should not fly. They presented their concerns to their bosses

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<v Speaker 1>and to NASA management. But NASA didn't want another delay,

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<v Speaker 1>not just because of the growing embarrassment, but because it

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<v Speaker 1>would put the rest of the year's mission schedule off track,

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<v Speaker 1>and the executives at Morton thiocol were just about to

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<v Speaker 1>enter into negotiations to keep their lucrative contract with NASA.

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<v Speaker 1>The engineers insisted it wasn't safe. The two sides argued

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<v Speaker 1>deep into the night, and then the engineers gave in.

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<v Speaker 1>The launch would go ahead as planned. None of the

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<v Speaker 1>astronauts or the millions of people who would be tuning

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<v Speaker 1>in to watch the first teacher go to space knew

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<v Speaker 1>anything about any of it. A few hours before liftoff,

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<v Speaker 1>the temperatures bottomed out at twenty degrees fahrenheit. Technicians use

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<v Speaker 1>brooms to remove icicles, some of them two feet long,

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<v Speaker 1>from the shuttle and the launch pad. At the crew quarters,

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<v Speaker 1>the astronauts woke up before dawn. They walked through press

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<v Speaker 1>and cheering fans to the van that would take them

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<v Speaker 1>to the launch pad. Judy was smiling in her blue jumpsuit,

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<v Speaker 1>her hair blowing in the cold breeze, and hand out

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<v Speaker 1>wave into someone in.

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<v Speaker 12>The crowd in the difference to fight through now and

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<v Speaker 12>then they're so un followed by a Specialisty rests Ron

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<v Speaker 12>McNair pilot Mike Smith, followed by christ follow feature in

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<v Speaker 12>face Aunt Ellison on Azuka and Palos specialists Greg Jarvist

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<v Speaker 12>Big smiles today, considently getting into the van.

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<v Speaker 1>Once they reached challenger, Judy took her seat at the

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<v Speaker 1>flight engineer's position behind the commanders and pilot's seats. Before

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<v Speaker 1>she got strapped in, she turned to mcculluff and said, quote,

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<v Speaker 1>the next time I see you we'll be in space.

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<v Speaker 1>At the grand stand, the crowd shivered in the icy air.

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<v Speaker 1>Judy's father was there, so were the families of all

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<v Speaker 1>the astronauts. Krista mcculluff's husband and kids, plus all of

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<v Speaker 1>her son's third grade classmates were there, cameras locked in

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<v Speaker 1>on their hopeful faces. The launch was delayed one hour,

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<v Speaker 1>then another, and another as they waited for the ice

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<v Speaker 1>on the shuttle to melt inside the crew cabin. The

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<v Speaker 1>astronauts were convinced that it would be canceled. Judy said, quote,

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<v Speaker 1>I hope we don't have to drive this down to

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<v Speaker 1>the better end again. But then at eleven twenty nine am,

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<v Speaker 1>the countdown began.

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<v Speaker 3>See minus fifteen seconds.

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<v Speaker 1>The engines were ready to fire. The instrument panel and

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<v Speaker 1>the cockpit showed the final seconds of the countdown. The

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<v Speaker 1>crew was.

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<v Speaker 3>Ready eight seven six, we have main engines start.

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<v Speaker 1>Millions of kids in classrooms across the country tuned in.

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<v Speaker 1>So did the engineers and Morton Thiokol, sitting in a

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<v Speaker 1>conference room sharing the same sick feeling holding hands.

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<v Speaker 13>And lift on lift off of the twenty fifth Face

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<v Speaker 13>Shuttle mission, and as.

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<v Speaker 2>The tower.

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<v Speaker 1>As the shuttle launched sheets of ice more than three

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<v Speaker 1>feet wide fell off part of the launch pad. Even now,

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<v Speaker 1>the O rings were failing. Hot gas at more than

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<v Speaker 1>five thousand degrees fahrenheit leaked out of the side of

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<v Speaker 1>a solid rocket booster. A joint ruptured. The astronauts wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>have known any of this, not yet. The shuttle shook

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<v Speaker 1>and rattled as it went higher into the atmosphere. It

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<v Speaker 1>was hard for the astronauts to read their instruments. As

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<v Speaker 1>they approached the speed of sound, Judy shouted in excitement

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<v Speaker 1>shit hot. At fifty eight seconds into the flight, a

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<v Speaker 1>bright orange flame flared at the bottom of the right booster,

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<v Speaker 1>and then it grew. It crept around the fuel tank,

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<v Speaker 1>acting like a blow torch, cutting in to the tank

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<v Speaker 1>and igniting it. But the instruments in the cockpit and

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<v Speaker 1>at Michigan Control still didn't show that anything was wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>Downder go and thrown up.

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<v Speaker 1>At seventy two seconds, the fuel tank burst apart into

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<v Speaker 1>a giant fireball. You can probably picture it right, the

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<v Speaker 1>huge white cloud, and then two streamers of smoke curling

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<v Speaker 1>away from one another, out and down a big y

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<v Speaker 1>in the clear blue sky. To the people in the

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<v Speaker 1>grandstand and watch it on TV. It wasn't clear what

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<v Speaker 1>they were seeing. Was this the thing that always happened?

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<v Speaker 1>Their cheers faltered, then faded for a moment. Michigan Control

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<v Speaker 1>was silent, and then my controllers.

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<v Speaker 9>Here looking very carefully at the situation.

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<v Speaker 4>Obviously a major malfunction.

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<v Speaker 1>But inside Michigan Control they knew how bad it was.

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<v Speaker 1>There was no more data from the flight communication with

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<v Speaker 1>the astronauts. The down link was gone.

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<v Speaker 2>We have no down link, Business Mission Control, Houston. We

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<v Speaker 2>have no additional word. At this time, the.

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<v Speaker 1>Crew compartment had shot out of the blaze of rocket fuel,

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<v Speaker 1>Tumbling slowly. It was in a free fall towards the

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<v Speaker 1>Atlantic Ocean. It took two minutes and forty five seconds

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<v Speaker 1>for it to hit the water. It is believed that

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<v Speaker 1>the seven members of the crew were alive the whole

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<v Speaker 1>way down. Their oxygen would have been disconnected when the

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<v Speaker 1>shuttle blew apart. It's likely that they were suffocating in

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<v Speaker 1>their seats. After all, there was no escape system, no

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<v Speaker 1>ejection seats, no pods, nothing to do but watch out

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<v Speaker 1>the shuttles windows. As the unforgivenly hard surface of the

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<v Speaker 1>ocean got closer and closer. When we talk about heroism,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly on this podcast, it's often in terms of saving

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<v Speaker 1>lives of remarkable one man stands against terrible odds. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think we can also agree that there is this

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<v Speaker 1>kind of heroism that has less to do with safe

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<v Speaker 1>others and more to do with putting yourself at risk

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<v Speaker 1>in the name of a greater good. The astronauts of

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<v Speaker 1>the Shuttle program and the ones who came before and after,

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<v Speaker 1>were serious scientists, determined to learn more about the cosmos.

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<v Speaker 1>They were explorers at the outer edge of what we

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<v Speaker 1>know about our world. They weren't going to space for fun.

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<v Speaker 1>They were going there to work for us. Judy Resnik

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<v Speaker 1>was as clear eyed and analytical as they come. She

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<v Speaker 1>knew exactly what kind of risks she was taking, but

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<v Speaker 1>she felt the rewards outweighed the peril. They all did.

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<v Speaker 1>Ronald Reagan put it this way at the Challenger Memorial Service.

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<v Speaker 13>This America was built on heroism and noble sacrifice. It

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<v Speaker 13>was built by men and women like our seven Star Voyagers,

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<v Speaker 13>who answered a call beyond duty, who gave more than

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<v Speaker 13>was expected or required, and who gave it little thought

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<v Speaker 13>of worldly reward.

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<v Speaker 1>They named a public elementary school after Judy in her hometown,

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<v Speaker 1>and every year the students sing a song in her honor.

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<v Speaker 1>Call me a softie, but it really hits me in

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<v Speaker 1>the hearts. I think that's heroism in a nutshell, knowing

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<v Speaker 1>the risk and pushing ahead anyways because you're serving something

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<v Speaker 1>greater than yourself. Full throttle up, all systems Go. Medal

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<v Speaker 1>of Honor Stories of Courage is written by Meredith Rollins

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<v Speaker 1>and produced by Meredith Rollins and Jess Shane. Our editor

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<v Speaker 1>Jake Gorsky. Our executive producer is Constanza gayartro fact checking

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<v Speaker 1>by Arthur Gomberts, original music by Eric Phillips. Production support

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<v Speaker 1>by Suzanne gabber Special thanks to the NASA History Office

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